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City of Charleston Council Meeting - January 22,2019 (2/2)
A
All
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
being
great
neighbors
when
all
the
time,
but
especially
when
we
really
need
you
when
we
have
storms
when
we
have
bridge
closures
and
now
with
flooding.
This
is
a
regional
issue.
That's
going
to
require
regional
state
and
national
attention.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
in
the
future
and
thank
you
for
having.
B
I
knew
there
was
something
I
forgot
to
mention.
You
know
in
25
minutes
you
can
only
say
so
much
and
I
could
go
on
for
an
hour
about
this
topic,
but
our
cooperation
with
regional
governments
is
critically
important.
The
Council
of
Governments
will
be
taking
up
the
issue
of
stormwater
regulations,
not
just
for
the
city
but
for
the
whole
region.
B
Senators
in,
as
many
of
you
know,
has
kind
of
taken,
an
initiative
which
we
gladly
participate
in
because
their
cross
jurisdictional
lines,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
maintenance
and
lastly,
governor
McMaster
has
formed
a
flood
water
commission.
That
he's
asked
me
to
serve
on
and
will
review
policy,
not
just
for
a
city
or
region,
but
entire
watersheds
of
the
state
of
South
Carolina,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
uplifting
that
on
a
much
higher
awareness,
not
just
on
our
level
but
on
a
regional
and
a
state
level
about
the
importance
of
flooding
and
drainage.
B
So
with
all
that
being
said,
we
come
back
to
the
matter
of
m1,
which
is
on
our
agenda
of
the
moratorium
council
member
Jackson
and
made
a
motion
to
approve
it.
It
was
seconded.
Some
groundwork
has
been
laid
on
the
matter
already
in
discussion
and
I.
Think
next
up
was
either
councilmember
Griffin
or
back
to
Sea
Kings.
Maybe
after
you
know,
councilmember
Griffin
and
then
Moody.
C
B
C
We
went
to
his
house
and
right
in
the
heart
of
the
Wambaugh
area
and
we
went
and
looked
at
a
bunch
of
ditches.
We
went
to
kind
of
the
crux
of
that
whole
system,
and
then
we
walked
across
the
street
across
Central
Park
Road
to
the
eme
apartments
and
looked
at
where
that
drainage
system
ends
up
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
every
one
of
those
neighborhoods
all
comes
out
of
one
pipe
in
the
end.
On
the
other
side,
one
pipe
one
by
one
pipe
one
48-inch
covert
front.
C
That
is
that
that's
that's
tough,
to
see
guys.
It
really
is
you've
got
probably
six
developments
all
draining
to
one
pipe
and
you
have
the
Central
Park
cluster,
which
is
another
see
here,
40
units
which
would
be
right
in
the
middle
of
all
of
that,
so
you'd
add
another
development
and
right
there,
you've
got
homes
that
are
three
and
four
streets
off
the
system
that
are
flooding
out
and
pretty
much.
Every
house
in
that
area
is
I'd,
say
relatively
low
elevation
I
mean
you,
don't
have
anybody,
especially
the
older
homes
that
are
built
up.
C
So
trust
me
when
I
say
that
I
am
it
breaks
my
heart
to
see
that
now
I
don't
know
if
this
document
necessarily
fixes
that
and
I
would
wholeheartedly
support
a
moratorium
on
Central,
Park
Road
right
now.
I
think
that
that
is
a
must,
because
we
won't
have
Wambaugh
study
that
was
appropriated
in
its
18.
That
hasn't
been
done
and
we
have
a
stormwater
manual
that
was
supposed
to
be
done,
I
believe
in
18
as
well,
and
it
didn't
get
done
now.
C
Don't
think
that's
right
now,
when
you
look
at
this
thing
too,
you
have
a
ton
of
exceptions
and
that
to
me
is
scary,
because
any
good
developer
is
going
to
find
a
way
around
it.
They're
gonna
find
an
exception
and
we're
going
to
be
having
arguments
with
our
legal
counsel
back
and
forth
over
whether
they're
in
the
moratorium,
whether
they're,
not
in
the
moratorium
that
to
me,
is
an
area
of
concern.
Church
Creek.
We
based
a
lot
of
this
document
around
Church
Creek.
C
We
passed
the
church
Creek
regulations
only
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
we
don't
even
know
if
they
work
yet
I
mean
I'm.
Just
being
honest,
I
represent
Church
Creek
and
so
do
a
few
other
council
members,
but
we
definitely
came
up
with
some
strict
regulations
that
are
probably
going
to
work.
However,
we
haven't
had
any
development
since
we
put
them
into
place.
The
first
project
is
upcoming,
a
Harris
Teeter,
which
is
going
to
be
coming
to
the
Beast
Ferry
Road
and
grando's.
C
That
to
me
is
going
to
be
a
good,
a
good
example
of
how
that's
gonna
be
the
first
development,
probably
commercially
a
Long
Beach
Ferry
Road.
Well,
we
had
one
gas
station
in
ten
years.
In
the
last
10
to
15
years,
we've
had
a
Walmart
and
a
bi-lo
that
was
10
years
ago.
We
had
a
gas
station
that
was
3
years
ago,
and
now
we
have
a
Harris
Teeter.
C
We
have
a
very
limited
amount
of
commercial
development
along
Church
Creek,
and
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
when
I
say
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
examples
as
to
whether
these
Church
Creek
regulations
are
necessarily
gonna,
be
the
end-all
be-all.
Now
we
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
them
and
we
want
to
believe
that
they're
the
best
the
best
regulations
we've
ever
come
up
with
this
city.
We
don't
know
for
sure
whether
they
are
the
best
that
we've
ever
seen.
C
C
You
know
I
want
to
support
this.
I
really
do,
and
you
know
I'm
fine
I'll
give
it
first
reading,
because
I
think
that
there's
a
good
there's,
there's
a
really
good
center
of
this
I.
Think
that
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
heart
and
a
lot
of
great
characteristics
in
this
I
think
our
legal
staff
really
vetted
that
you
know
this
document
big
time,
but
with
all
these
exceptions,
that
scares
me
a
lot.
You
know.
Oh,
we
gotta
have
it.
C
We
have
like
13
exceptions,
which
tells
me
that
our
legal
staff
is
not
was
a
little
bit
nervous
that
you
know.
We've
got
to
do
all
the
exception
here
and
exception
there.
You
know
last
point
I
want
to
make.
We
talked
about
Church
Creek,
TIF
district
we've
talked
about
it
so
much
over
the
last
few
months.
It's
gonna
be
the
savior
to
church
Creek.
It's
gonna
fix
all
our
drainage
problems.
It's
gonna
bring
all
this
money.
Well,
our
city
is
known
for
moratoriums
over
the
last
few
years.
C
That's
what
we're
known
for
and
if
you
want
scared
developers
away,
that's
how
you
do
it
we'll
never
have
any
money.
In
Church
Creek
through
a
TIF
district
because
nobody's
going
to
want
to
come
develop
here,
we've
already
added
a
moratorium
on
James
Island.
We've
already
had
a
moratorium
on
in
church
Creek.
We
tried
a
moratorium.
It
came
to
us
for
John's
Island,
it
didn't
happen.
C
We
have
to
find
a
common-sense
solution
here,
because
we
can't
have
projects
that
say
10
and
we're
gonna
raise
all
this
money
and
commercial
development
at
her
and
then
we're
going
to
take
two
islands
and
say
no
development
at
all.
You
know
they've
got
to
find
a
better
way
to
do
it
guys
I'll,
give
it
like
I,
said:
I'll
support
you
tonight,
Councilwoman
Jackson
I
really
think
your
hearts
in
it
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
a
common-sense
approach.
C
D
You
mr.
mayor,
one
of
the
speakers
made
something
they
wanted
just
to
pause,
so
everything
would
become
crystal
clear.
Everything
is
not
going
to
become
crystal
clear
that
I
know
all
these
board
tour
iums.
My
sense
of
what
would
happen
is,
if
you
put
this
moratorium
in
place
in
any
way.
Basically,
everybody
else
stop
dipping
anything.
D
You'll
wait
till
whatever
time
you
put
on
it
might
be
a
little
activity
down
towards
the
end
of
it,
but
we'll
come
back
and
nothing
will
be
done
and
I
uses
exhibit
a
I
agree
with
you,
I've
been
over
to
look
at
the
wall
bar
Central
Park,
Road
area.
If
you
look
at
the
86
83
84
master
plan
that
master
plan
calls
for
248
inch
pipes
that
was
25
years
ago.
D
It's
almost
like
you're,
king
and
hugie
35
excuse
me
I
was
trying
to,
but
the
point
is:
if
we
want
to
do
something
tonight,
let's
talk
with
mr.
Newell
or
some
other
project
matters.
Let's
get
them
out
there
and
start
working
on
putting
those
pipes
in
the
ground
right
now
and
let's
see
what
happens
to
those
48
inch,
whether
that
would
relieve
some
of
this.
Some
of
this
flooding,
the
and
they're.
D
Really
the
crux
of
this
more
of
these
more
times
they
have
so
many
unintended
consequences
that
you
can't
even
imagine
all
of
them
and
I
say
that
if
we
said
tomorrow,
we
want
to
go
out
if
we
passed
a
moratorium
tonight,
we
want
to
go
out
and
put
those
two
48
inch
pipes
in
that
district.
It
would
be
prohibited
under
this
moratorium.
D
Well,
that's
that's
the
kind
of
nuts
and
stuff
that
goes
on
I
mean
last
meeting
in
December
I
think
it
was
December,
or
maybe
it
was
jazz
earlier
when
in
January
we
accepted
land
for
the
North
pitchfork
on
John's
Island.
At
the
same
time,
we
give
a
development
agreement
to
the
property
owner
there,
and
then
we
come
in
and
say
a
moratorium
on
everything
else
around
them.
I
mean
it
just
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
That
I've
just
never
seen
more
of
these
moratoriums
work.
D
You
know
all
the
pictures
that
doctor
came
up
here,
we're
downtown
it
doesn't
even
cover
downtown
I
mean
it's,
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense.
I
mean
we've:
we've
had
a
stormwater
department,
that's
had
an
aversion
to
submerge
pipes.
Those
submerged
pipes,
work
great
on
Daniel,
Island
I
mean
there's
no
flooding
over
there,
but
we
can't
have
them
anywhere
else.
In
the
city,
I
mean
this
is
some.
This
is
some
great
technology.
It
ditches
fill
up,
they've
become
clogged.
You
have
to
have
drainage
easement.
You
have
to
have
all
that
stuff.
D
You
put
that
pipe
in
it
submerged
in
the
water.
If
you
need
to
clean
it
out,
you
blow
it
out,
and
it
just
keeps
running
if
we
put
those
two
48
inch
pipes
over
on
Central,
Park
Road
and
maybe
put
a
couple
back
backflow
or
check
valves
in
those
to
keep
the
tide
from
coming
in,
at
least
with
the
time.
Without
all
that
water
would
drain
out,
it
would
give
a
lot
of
relief
to
that
area.
D
E
You
you
Councilmembers
Griffin
and
moody
I
do
have
more
to
say
that's
a
little
more
overarching,
but
just
in
terms
of
I
think
the
point
that
you
had
made
councilmember
Griffin
about
we've
had
a
moratorium
on
James
Island
and
nothing
happened.
We
did
have
a
moratorium
on
James
Island
and
it
was
for
the
purpose
of
adopting
the
folly
Road
overlay
for
development,
so
it
really
had
nothing
to
do
with
with
flooding
controls
or
anything
to
do
with
drainage.
E
It
was
purely
to
get
our
zoning
in
sync,
with
the
county
in
the
town
of
James
Island,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
point
so
that
the
public
is
not
confused
about
that
and
and
also
two
things.
Mr.
Moody
I
councilmember
moody
I.
First
of
all,
if
we,
if
we
tried
to
improve
the
the
system
that
runs
water
away
from
Central
Park,
we
wouldn't
that
wouldn't
be
a
timeout
in
this
temporary
moratorium.
E
This
is
for
the
purpose
of
issuing
a
development
permit
or
approval,
so
that
III,
really,
you
know,
don't
think
we
should
be
confusing
people
who
have
a
hard
enough
time
following
along
what
we're
trying
to
do.
So
it's
due
respect,
I
think
that
that's
not
not
the
intent
of
this
ordinance
and
it's
not
an
unattended
consequence
of
this
ordinance
and
as
far
as
the
exceptions
are
concerned,
there's
really
three
main
concept:
exceptions.
E
The
the
other
ones
are
just
obvious
that
for
things
that
are
already
permitted,
we're
not
stopping
them
for
things
that
are
not
relevant
to
development,
where
we're
changing
zoning
boundary
lines
and
zoning
map
amendments.
Zoning
text,
amendments
I
mean
those
are
basically
standard
exceptions
for
anything
like
this
I
trusted
the
legal
and
the
planning
department
to
put
in
the
kinds
of
things
that
they
knew
would
be
defensible
in
in
a
document
that
is,
you
know,
there's
no
question.
It's
it's
it's
controversial.
E
No
one
likes
to
think
that
we've
got
to
take
a
course
correction
or
something
that
calls
a
halt
to
of
the
progress
as
our
building
and
real-estate
industry
is
known
it
to
be
a
very
good
path
for
them.
For
the
last
35
years
of
developing
on
James
and
John's
Island
in
ways
that
you
know
we
would
not
want
to
stop
the
growth
that
Charleston
has
experienced
because
it
means
we
have
a
healthy
economy.
It
means
we
have
jobs
for
people,
it
means
we
have
new
people
moving
in
to
populate
our
city.
E
For
the
future,
I
mean
this
is
my
grandson.
You
know
he's
he's
like
the
future
that
I'm
going
for
here.
He
lives
on
James,
Island,
he's
a
resident
of
councilmember
Gregory's
district
6.
He
lives
in
front
of
one
of
the
biggest
canal
ditches
that
drains
to
where
you
were
just
talking
about
councilmember
Griffin,
and
you
know
his
parents
that
they
they
stretched
themselves
thin
to
buy
a
really
good
house
for
their.
E
You
know
their
lifestyle
in
their
family
future,
but
they
can't
afford
to
worry
about
water,
so
I'm
here,
because
my
family's
invested
in
the
future-
and
that's
really
the
motivation
for
me-
the
exceptions
that
I
cared
about
when
I
was
working
with
our
corporate
councils
office.
To
do
this
and
it's
not
a
public
works,
you
know
exercise
so
I
guess
maybe
we
could
have
covered
more
the
basis
ahead
of
time.
But
basically
this
is.
E
E
And
yes,
we
haven't
had
a
test
case
for
that,
but
that
was
the
wisdom
that
we're
banking
on
in
church
Creek,
councilmember
Griffon.
We
we,
you
know,
we
won't
know
the
future
until
we're
presented
with
the
reality
of
how
its
implemented
I
am
fully
expecting
that
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
regulations
which
I,
don't
believe
should
be
rushed,
I
think
they
have
a
very
achievable
process,
they're,
building
momentum.
This
needs
to
be
a
process
that
we
can
stand
on
for
the
next
20
years.
E
They
do
a
peer
review
and
a
document
gets
written
and
vetted,
and
then
they
shop
it
around
to
experts
in
other
areas
and
people
who
study
water
engineering,
you
know
professionally
and
academically.
So
it's
not
something
that
you
could
just
you
know,
take
your
best
guess,
frankly,
that's
what
we
did
have
to
do
for
church
Creek
in
a
lot
of
ways,
because
the
pressure
was
on
to
end
the
moratorium
and
I
think
the
engineers
that
have
looked
at
this.
E
You
know
no
one
likes
change,
so,
of
course,
we're
going
to
get
pushed
back
that
we're
not
sure
how
this
is
all
going
to
work.
I'm
willing
to
bet
that
we've
got
the
interim
standards
here
for
this
document,
that
if
a
developer
wanted
to
make
a
change
and
how
they
were
designing
their
stormwater
infrastructure,
we
would
be
very
happy
to
accept
it.
You
know
that's
the
people
I
want
to
reward.
E
We
have
developers
and
region
who
are
already
challenging
themselves
to
do
better
because
they
know
the
regulations
that
they're
being
required
to
build
under
are
not
strict
enough.
So
I
want
to
reward
the
developers
who
are
doing
good
building
standards
and
making
a
life
for
themselves
here,
because
they're
also
stakeholders
in
our
region.
The
other
exceptions
that
I
cared
about
the
most,
were
you
know
the
the
single-family
house
on
one
lot.
That's
clearly
spelled
out
here
and
the
same
for
we
don't
have
many
duplexes
being
built.
E
I
think
we
should
have
more
because
that's
a
housing,
affordability
tool,
but
those
two
small
you
know
single-family
left
with
one
structure
on
it.
We
didn't
want
to
capture
them
and
the
other
one
I
felt
very
strongly
about,
and
and
and
had
agreement
for
was
the
same
thing
for
commercial.
We
don't
want
to
capture
small
commercial
footprint.
E
Improvements
that
are
being
you
know,
we
were
master
planning
on
folly,
Road
in
particular
to
improve
the
building
structures
that
we
have
so
we're
going
to
give
an
exception
to
any
commercial
property
that
stays
in
the
5,000
square,
foot,
footprint
or
less.
Those
are
the
three
I
care
about.
You
can
ask
your
questions
of
the
legal
and
planning
staff
about
the
other.
10
I
mean
that
they
made
sense
to
me
when
I
read
them,
they're,
basically
completed
projects
or
these
things
that
shouldn't
even
apply
to
a
development
permit.
E
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
document.
I
know
the
legal
staff
are
proud
to
have
brought
it
forward
and
feel
like.
We
really
can
stand
on
it
for
a
very
short
time
and
reward
the
developers
who
want
to
rework
their
plan
and
come
back
and
give
us
a
better
product,
because
that's
what
they're
going
to
have
to
do
anyway,
once
we
adopt
the
better
regulations
that
we're
all
champion
and
Anna
green
and
even
the
development
community,
the
agrees
we
have
we've
got
a
broken
system.
E
E
You
know
in
plain
English
get
all
the
boxes
checked,
come
in
with
their
plans
and
meet
the
regulations,
and
then
they
go
on
their
merry
way
to
build
their
build
their
their
development
right
now,
they're
going
back
and
forth,
and
back
and
forth
and
back
and
forth,
and
we
have
our
water
manager,
evaluators,
Kinsey
Holton
and
his
team
we've
had
to
hire
outside
consultants,
because
it's
such
a
laborious
process
and
they
take
forever
because
they're
trying
to
control
the
developer
to
do
a
little
bit
better.
Every
time
they
come
back
for
our
youth.
E
You
I've
said
through
several
of
those
sessions
and
it's
painful
these
people,
like
each
other.
You
know
they're
in
the
same
industry,
they're
engineers.
They
all
want
to
appreciate
that
they're
doing
something
of
value
for
the
future,
so
they
don't
want
to
be
sitting
there.
You
know
arguing
over
the
details
of
a
product
that
no
one's
gonna
be
happy
with.
At
the
end
of
the
day.
That's
my
motivation.
E
Listening
to
the
people,
knowing
what
they're
really
crying
over
I
mean
I've
seen
people
cry
and
we've
got
to
take
care
of
that,
and
it's
not
a
linear
process.
We
have
to
fix
the
old
drainage
systems.
Wamba
is
a
great
example,
but
what
about
Howell
Avenue?
What
about
Grimble
Road?
That's
getting
some
houses
built
down
there
and
they're
getting
flooding
them
there
and
their
properties
we've
all
heard
from
our
people,
so
we
need
to
fix
it
all.
It's
not
a
linear,
I!
Think
doctor
rather
said
it
most.
Clearly,
this
is
a
better
solution.
E
We
can
do
both
of
these
things.
We
can
keep
bad
building
from
from
from
starting
and
we
can
protect
the
properties
that
are
next
door
to
the
most
likely
development
and
we
can
reward
the
developers
who
are
doing
a
good
job.
That's
my
motivation.
I
really
hope
you
can
giving
it
a
first
reading,
I'm
happy
to
think
about
the
whole
city.
I'm
happy
to
think
about.
You
know
the
things
that
you
all
are
most
concerned.
We
can
do
that
in
the
month
before
we
would
come
back
here
with
a
second
reading,
final
document
and
I.
F
F
This
one
put
it
on
the
record.
So
if
we
vote
for
this
moratorium
before
we
do
anything
else,
it
goes
into
effect
that's
up
tomorrow
morning
and
that's
and
that's
an
issue
that
I
think
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
kento,
Jackson,
I,
appreciate
you
doing
this
I
know
you
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
thing
in,
and
it's
good
that
we
have
in
this
discussion
about
it
and
I
in
everybody
knows
that
we
have
an
issue
or
on
James
Island
and
John's
Island,
but
we
also
have
an
issue.
F
This
America
just
spent
30
minutes
on
talking
about
this
particular
issue
citywide.
These
are
some
of
my
concerns.
I
have
with
the
project
and
have
with
the
ordinance
and
I
think
this.
We
need
to
consider
this
first,
it
is
not
citywide,
we
all
in
our
very
individual
districts.
Individual
parts
of
the
city
have
particular
issues
dealing
with
with
with
flooding
and
storm
water,
council,
mullerian
and
myself
and
moody,
who
represent
areas
that
are
older
and
Wes
Ashley.
There's
some
maintenance
issues.
F
It's
a
huge
maintenance
issue
over
there
and
the
mayor
address
that
problem
tonight
and
if
we
can
attack
that
maintenance
issue
and
attack
that
we
may
solve
a
lot
of
the
issues
over
in
West
actually,
but
it's
also
over
developed
and
it's
over
development,
not
just
in
on
James
and
John's
olive
oil
development,
Detroit's,
clean
face
and
we've
seen
the
effects
of
that.
So
if
we
could
I
don't
have
an
opposition
to
moratorium
per
se,
I
think
moratoriums
have
a
very
important
part
in
city
governance.
F
We
can
have
a
good
cause
button
sometimes,
but
it
has
to
be
followed
up
with
something:
that's
logical
and
reasonable,
and
once
we
pass
this
thing,
it
goes
into
effect.
The
we're
about
to
hire
the
mayor
said,
maybe
within
a
week
or
two
weeks,
a
director
for
our
new
stormwater
department.
That
person
who
we
hire
needs
the
weigh
in
on
this
thing.
They
need
the
way
on
this
thing
immediately.
F
Now,
if
you
develop
something
and
that
something
that
you
develop,
creates
a
a
one-off
problem,
what
is
the
correlation
between
an
exception
number
one
applications
were
a
Development
Department
or
approval
and
compliance
the
session.
Fifty
four
nine
seven
five.
What
does
that
have?
What
correlation
is
that
to
not
have
an
impact
on
flooding
or
some
water?
Runoff
I,
don't
know
the
answer
that
question
and
I
can
go
through
each
one
of
these
thirteen
exceptions.
They
give
me
pause
because
I
want
this
moratorium
to
take
effect.
F
I
want
it
to
be
effective,
but
if
you
pass
the
saying
as
written
with
these
thirteen
exceptions,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
exception
is
going
to
affect
the
the
stormwater
runoff
cause
and
effect
flooding
by
allowing
a
application
to
go
forward
on
the
number
thirteen,
for
example.
How
does
that
not
affect
flooding?
I,
don't
know
the
answer
that
question
and
that's
something
I
think
that
should
have
been
brought
up
into
into
committee
at
some
particular
point.
F
What
I'd
like
to
do
with
this
is
to
take
this
and
put
it
into
our
public
works
and
have
it
defer
to
that
department.
So
we
can
study
this
a
little
bit
more
and
understand
it.
A
little
bit,
I've
read
the
same
three
or
four
times
honestly
I
its
it
in
I'm
having
a
hard
time
comprehending
all
of
it
right
frankly
and
then
and
I'm
a
lawyer,
I
read
ordinances
and
statutes
all
the
time
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
get
my
hands
around
us.
F
We've
got
a
problem
that
we've
got
to
address
and
council
member
Jackson
should
be
patted
on
the
back
and
applauded
for
what
she's
doing
here
and
having
this
discussion
and
I
really
want
to
support
this
ordinance.
But
those
are
my
concerns
as
to
how
the
exceptions
apply
to
the
the
effect
that
we're
trying
to
avoid
and
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question
and
that's
those
are
my
concerns.
G
G
So
I
just
a
couple
of
brief
comments.
The
the
one
thing
I
do
have
a
challenge
and
I've
had
challenges
every
time
we
use
the
word
moratorium
and
because
it's
the
process,
we
go
through
this
process
of
putting
together
moratorium.
We
put
it
out
there
and
then
six
eight
months
says
it
expires.
We
come
back
and
yet
we've
not
gotten
where
we
need
to
get,
and
so
what
would
we
do?
Well,
let's
get
another
three
months,
but
three
months,
we're
gonna.
Have
it
ready
to
go?
G
Three
months
expires,
we'll
win
just
a
little
more
time
and
then
a
year
later,
we're
no
further
along,
but
then
we
finally
get
the
study
done.
It
starts
to
collect
us
because
it
says
well,
here's
the
problems
that
you
need
to
solve.
It's
gonna
cost
you
150
million
dollars
to
do
it
nobody's
got
a
hundred,
fifty
million
dollars
to
go
fix
it.
We
had
the
same
conversation
in
the
Budget
Committee
this
year
over
and
over
and
over
again
I
think
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
focused
on
relearning
the
things
that
we
already
know.
G
We
know
that
there's
240
inch
pipes
that
need
be
installed.
They
should
have
installed
35
years
ago,
as
opposed
to
sitting
here
and
spending
a
lot
of
energy
tonight
and
over
the
next
nine
months
figuring
out.
How
do
we
put
a
pause?
How
about
let's
go
out
and
get
that
done?
Let's
see
if
that
works,
and
all
these
other
issues
that
all
these
other
council
members
who
have
had
the
opportunity
to
go
through
and
walk
and
see
what
needs
to
be
done.
Why
aren't
we
taking
and
putting
energy
there?
So
that's,
that's
I!
G
H
G
So
you
know
in
an
overall,
you
know
how
does
it
impact
and
it's
probably
because
there's
13
exceptions
to
the
ordinances
my
suspicion?
So
lastly,
I'll
say
one
of
the
things
I
think
is
important,
and
this
is
the
unintended
consequence
of
and
I
think
our
friends
over
Mount
Pleasant
they're
gonna
see
this
that
when
you
put
it
a
build
moratorium
on
demand
is
not
going
to
stop
demand
will
continue.
People
want
to
live
in
Charleston
they
get
moving
here.
Every
single
day
we've
got
some
of
the
largest
employers
in
our
country.
G
Now,
here
coming
to
Charleston
and
there's
probably
more
to
come,
so
we're
not
going
to
stop
people
from
coming.
But
if
you
stop
the
supply
and
demand,
we
know
it's
basic
economics.
You
think
we
have
affordable
housing
problem
now,
put
a
moratorium
in
the
city
of
Charleston
for
two
years
and
see
what
happens.
None
of
us
will
be
able
to
afford
to
live
here.
So
I
think
we've
got
to
be
very
careful,
I'm,
not
saying
we
don't
have
a
problem.
It's
very
clear.
G
I
She
said
a
couple
things
in
here:
I
have
responded
to
her
and
I'm
gonna.
Give
you
my
response
just
from
a
second
what
I
said
to
her.
He
says
in
here
that
we
are
completing
the
city
of
Charleston
is
completing
a
suite
of
studies.
That's
going
to
give
us
an
updated
inventory
of
all
our
drainage
systems
and
maintenance,
identification,
the
flood
risk
areas
on
the
islands
and
an
updated
stormwater
regulations
suite
and
a
couple
of
my
wasn't
real
sure
about,
but
it
doesn't
matter
because
that
paragraph
does
not
matter
to
what
I
sold
her.
I
I
I
Told
Ms
Jackson
at
that
time:
I
would
not
only
vote
for
it.
I
would
try
and
get
the
other
council
members
to
vote
with
me
at
which
time
I
was
very
surprised
because
they
said
what
are
you
crazy
and
you
know
what
that
in
a
way
they're
right,
but
we
asked
for
or
what
I
asked
for
at
that
time
was-
and
you
know
out
here-
you're
exception
in
accordance
with
54
123.
Okay.
I
I
I
So
with
a
little
simple
math,
you
can
figure
out
that
only
two
of
33
items
on
John's
Island
are
affected,
which
means
that's
295
units
out
of
6272
real
minor
impact.
Now
the
problem
I
have
is
just
by
listening
to
the
people
tonight.
If
that
is
all
the
units
that
are
going
to
be
affected,
the
current
existing
homes
are
not
really
talked
about
it.
I
Yeah,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
be
all
fix,
all
that
I
think
the
people
are
anticipating
after
listening
to
what
30
or
so
of
them
tonight,
however,
I
will
stand
by
my
words.
Did
I
wrote
to
this
lovely
lady
today
and
because
I'm
very
fond
of
that
particular
organization,
because
I
think
they're
doing
the
right
stuff
enjoy
arms
out.
I
So
if
you
will
indulge
me
about
three
paragraphs
here,
I'm
the
reason,
my
response
and
my
rationale
for
the
response,
if
you
got
any
questions,
I'll
be
glad
that
you're
mine
too,
but
dear
Nancy,
it's
my
opinion.
A
very
weak
talk
at
this
is
a
very
weak
document
which
will
not
do
what
is
being
and
retired
to
do,
which
is
to
be
to
fix
all
four
everything
on
that
island.
That
was
what
I
would
thought
it
needs
to
have
some
teeth
added
to
be
effective.
I
G
I
Pretty
easy
and
coastal
conservation
and
a
whole
lot
of
groups
on
John's
Island
we're
against
the
few
hours
will
remember
that
sound
the
citizens
of
John's
Island
will
see
no
difference
in
what
is
happening
from
what
I
have
seen
thus
far,
and
that's
very
true,
I
believe,
based
on
the
document
that
was
provided
tonight.
Having
said
that,
I
feel
a
major
promise
of
a
pause
last
year.
I
will
support
first
reading
of
the
moratorium
at
the
meeting
tonight.
I
I
stated
publicly
on
tape
television
last
year
that
we
needed
to
have
a
quote
pause
and
development
on
John's
Island.
That
statement
is
not
supported
as
sufficient
by
the
president
of
your
organization.
At
that
time
he
thought
I
was
supposed
to
be
meaner
and
nastier.
That
was
right
after
we
left
your
office
that
day
and
mentioned
the
word
moratorium,
and
nobody
had
seen
it.
Sir.
I
Therefore,
that
statement
was
not
supported
as
sufficient
by
the
president
of
your
organization.
I
feel
that
I
meet
John
violent
citizens,
I
promise.
The
item
was
deferred
last
year,
but
was
never
brought
back
up
that
counts.
We
just
died.
There
needs
to
be
a
phone
calls
with
reasonable
expectations
of
a
plausible
and
probable
action
is
needed.
I
I
plan
to
support
for
3d
I
am
hoping
that
Council
to
get
the
moratorium
strengthened
to
where
we
can
have
both
increased
enforcement
actions
and
the
definitive
end
result
identified
based
on
the
current
ordinance
I'm
at
the
end
now
angle.
So
now
city
of
Charleston
staff
separates
that
you
identify
the
paragraph
3,
which
I
dressed
you
guys
previously
State
Street
a
suite
of
studies
of
recently
identified
new
initiatives.
I
The
area
has
been
flooded
by
hundred
year
events
almost
annually
during
the
past
four
years,
when
we
showed
tonight
three
years
in
the
row
without
positive
actions
or
studies,
no
action
dr.
Dunson
has
been
talking
to
Council
for
almost
three
years
about
to
see
rise,
expects
both
moratorium
document.
We
have
looks
to
be
weak
to
me,
but
it
is
time
that
we
again
to
start
trying
to
start
somewhere
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
you
as
tonight's
meeting
and
that's
it
love
and
kisses.
More
do
I
believe
that
the
entire
city
should
be
involved.
Yes,.
H
I
Was
my
first
thought
if
we
just
do
this
and
I
think
Carol
I'm
not
talking
about
that
that
day?
Why
not?
Why
not
the
whole
city?
Why
just
the
islands
so
the
rest
of
the
city's
flood,
and
you
pointed
that
out
very
nicely
tonight
and
it
has
been
for
a
long
time
the
two
issues
that
we're
talking
about
here-
we're
walking
and
Barbary
woods,
both
of
which
had
been
previously
identified
with
loud
development.
The
city
davai
had
previously
done
the
development.
You
know
we
maybe
we're
partially.
I
Unknowingly
part
of
the
problem,
but
what
I'm
seeing
yes
is
I'm
a
vote
forward,
because
you
know
what
I've
told
folks
aware
that
told
Carol
of
wood
wood
had
I
had
some
of
the
stuff
I
seen
tonight.
He
made
the
same
promises.
I
don't
know,
but
you
know
my
heart:
that's
not
that's
hard
into
it
as
it
was
because
of
what
I
saw,
what
I
heard
what
I
would
have
been
listening
to
tonight.
So
if
you
know
I'm
going,
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
say
so
I'll
just
hush.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
J
They
want
stormwater
regulations,
they
want
clean
ditches,
they
want,
let's
slap
on
great
construction
and
what
plans
Oh
in
action
all
those
things
that
we
can
give
it
to
them
and
embedded
in
this
document,
which
is
hard
to
read
lawyer
or
not,
I,
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things.
There's
exceptions
embedded
in
this
document
is
actually
interim
standards
for
stormwater
systems
and
facilities.
I.
Don't
understand
why
we
can't
send
this
to
our
public
works
department.
Why
we
can't
get
our
own
engineering
team
in
here.
J
Go
look
at
these
interim
standards
and
see
if
we
can
put
them
in
place
in
the
while
we're
putting
together
and
getting
a
new
stormwater
director
and
getting
new
regs
put
together.
I
mean
I.
Don't
understand
why
the
more
the
first
seven
pages-
it's
right
here
in
page
eight-
is
where
this
all
really
has
some
teeth.
So
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I!
Think
that
we
should.
We
haven't
heard
from
an
engineer
tonight,
not
one
from-from
internally,
about
this.
We
haven't
heard
from
our
planning
director.
G
J
There's
so
many
things
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
when
we're
gonna
make
pronouncements
about
what
we're
gonna
do
in
an
entire
city
of
200
square
miles
and
now
just
a
couple
square
miles,
and
you
know
all
these
regs.
We
seem
to
like
I'd
like
to
see
some
action
I'd
like
to
see
some
base
for
doing
it,
I'd
like
to
see
a
new
stormwater
director,
which
mayor
says
coming
new
regs
in
the
interim
I,
don't
know
if
these
regs
work
or
not,
but
let's
do
something.
J
I,
don't
see
that
in
nine
months
from
now,
why
we
can't
have
done
all
those
things
anyway.
So
my
vote
is
to
go.
Do
something
I
agree
with
councilmember
white
I
think
the
unintended
consequences
here
are
going
to
be
huge
and
we
can
do
better,
not
that
this
isn't
a
good
idea
to
think
about
this.
But
if
you
go
from
page
eight
forward
and
start
doing
some
stuff
I
think
we
put
ourselves
in
a
heck
of
a
lot
better
position
than
we
are
so
that
was
kind
of
be
my
direction.
H
E
K
And-
and
I
too
want
to
thank
Councilwoman
Jackson
for
all
her
work
and
I
appreciate
it
and
I.
You
know
I
floodings,
obviously
a
huge
huge
concern
with
this.
With
the
way
we
have
this
written.
We
have
it
written
that
we're
going
to
put
a
moratorium
on
flood
zone
a
well
VNA,
but
the
big
the
big
hits
flood
zone
a
it
is
where
we're
going
to
hit
it.
We
just
we
heard
earlier
flood
zones,
don't
account
for
stormwater
runoff,
so
we're
gonna
build
in
BC
and
X.
K
What
we're
doing
we're
saying:
okay,
all
flood
zone,
a
areas
that
there's
there's
some
flood
zone,
a
areas
that
do
not
have
flooding
issues
and
aren't
causing
flooding,
issues
right
now
and
there's
unintended
consequences
by
stopping
building
in
those
areas
both
for
James,
Island
and
John's
Island.
If
we
were
talking
about
a
moratorium
for
Barbary
for
Central
Park
for
Wamba,
you
know
those
specific
areas,
then
I
think
we've.
B
L
L
All
these
are
in
district
6,
my
district
so
again,
I
thank
my
fellow
colleagues
but
walking
the
site
with
me
and
to
finally
realize
that
we've
got
to
do
something
and
I
don't
think
a
moratorium
is
the
answer.
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
Councilwoman
Jackson
has
heard
me
say
that
or
my
neighborhood,
because
I
tend
to
be
very
transparent.
L
L
Mr.
Myers
we've
walked
Laurel
Park
when
it
was
under
water,
and
it
does
appear
as
though
it's
neglected
maintenance
issues.
We
don't
need
a
moratorium
to
tell
us
that
we
should
up
size
the
pipe.
We
don't
need
a
moratorium
for
that.
I
think
the
suggestion
that
this
should
have
gone
to
public
services
committee
was
a
good
one,
particularly
as
they
go
over
this
year.
L
We
got
enough
interest,
we
got
the
seven
votes
and
we
got
it
done.
Central
Park
is
a
safety
hazard
for
the
residents
in
that
area,
no
different
than
ug
Street
35
years
ago.
We
knew
what
we
had
to
do
and
we've
done
absolutely
nothing
over
there.
Now,
that's
not
to
say
mayor
and
council
that
our
stormwater
folks
have
not
been
to
Marlborough,
maybe
over
1012
times
with
us.
L
Let's
stop
talking
about
it.
These
studies
are
great,
but
we
already
know
what
we
have
to
do.
We
need
a
study
to
tell
us
that
and
on
those
no
circumstances
am
I,
saying
that
we
should
discontinue
studies,
but
where
it's
obvious
with
just
maintenance
and
updating.
Let's
do
it.
The
value
of
people's
property
are
at
stake.
We
cannot
continue
to
sit
and
kick
this
can
down
the
road
on
James
Island.
Think
about
how
much
dollars
we've
spent
on
the
peninsula
for
drainage.
L
Think
about
how
much
dollars
we've
spent
West
Ashley
on
drainage
and
tell
me
how
much
we
have
spent
on
drainage.
I
mean
the
city
for
James
Island
since
I've
been
sitting
here.
It
is
time
for
us
to
take
action.
I
am
tired
of
the
studies
when
we
know
what
the
problem
is
folks
and
in
all
due
respect
to
council
member
Jackson
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
dialogue
to
this
floor
into
this
body.
I
really
appreciate
it
and
I
applaud
you
for
you
and
I.
Just
don't
agree
on
the
approach,
and
we've
been
talking
about
this.
J
L
M
Thank
you,
mister,
miss
I.
Miss
me
I
want
to
thank
dr.
rivers,
because
dr.
ravitz
came
to
this
meeting
in
December
and
she
thanked
us
graciously
for
appropriating
the
money
in
the
2018
budget.
We
did
that
in
a
17
for
the
18
budget,
for
the
study
for
the
Central
Park,
warm
ball
drainage,
basin
and
cuz.
We
didn't
do
that
all
last
year
when
I
say
we
I'm
not
talking
about
you
only
I'm
talking
all
of
us.
M
M
We
didn't
have
thousand-year
reign
events,
but
within
the
last
five
years
I
mean
I
can
recount
the
storms
you
can
too,
but
literally
we
have
been
swimming
with
our
trunks
off
and
when
all
those
rain
events
hit
the
city
we
found
out
my
goodness.
It's
just
not
downtown
it's
just
nothing
Mike
Mike
seeking
district.
It
really
is
all
over.
So
now.
M
And
in
the
steep
South's,
a
state
of
the
union
that
state
of
the
city
and
headdress,
there
were
three
projects
in
there:
council,
lady
jackson,
that
came
through
public
works
and,
in
the
reason,
a
we
are
biased.
Twelve
public
works
because
that's
what
action
steps
it's
done.
Okay,
you
got
a
phone
to
come
to
public
works
and
you
find
that
the
people
are
our
planning
department
and
the
people
in
our
engineering
department.
Oftentimes
will
pull
out
that
1984
study
that
you
hear
us
referring
to.
There
are
answers
in
that
study.
M
It
was
never
the
money
to
fix
it.
All
the
money
got
diverted
elsewhere
thinking.
The
problem
was
that's
bad
because
we
hadn't
been
getting
the
rain.
We
hadn't
been
getting
a
storm
after
storm.
We
haven't
been
getting
a
sunny
day.
Flood
I
spoke
to
Councilwoman
Jackson
after
you
spoke,
and
December
also
spoke
to
councilman
Gregory,
as
well
as
councilman
moody,
who
all
have
responsibilities
on
James
Island
in
specifically,
but
we
all
do
collectively
and
and
I
said
we
got
to
do
something
about
that.
M
We
need
to
do
a
moratorium
on
and
I'm
willing
to
vote
for,
a
moratorium
on
the
Central
Park
Wambach
when
it
came
back
and
I
think
I
had
ten
different
drainage
basins
in
it,
but
I
have
the
experience
of
serving
through
the
church
cream
its
top
out
six
months.
It
got
expanded
three
months.
It
got
extended
another
three
months
as
councilman
white
said
and
and
and
then
our
staff
asked
for
six
months,
end
up
being
fifteen
months
and
they
wanted
more
time
and
when
we
said
no
more
time,
the
work
got
done.
M
So
in
this
budget
we've
appropriated
more
monies
for
cleaning.
So
we
not.
We
got
to
get
better
at
there
and
the
mayor's
getting
better
at
that
council
getting
better
at
then
we
got
a
higher
mold
people
and
include
the
private
sector.
One
of
the
feelings
of
this
moratorium
is
the
private
sector
is
pretty
much
left
out
of
this.
What
I
mean
private
sector
private
sector
engineering
firms?
M
What
would
they
have
to
say
about
this
about
some
action
steps
that
would
mean
up
make
this
as
necessary
and
when
we
do
a
study,
you
know
where
we
go
to
get
the
answers
to
private
sector
firms
we
put
out
RFQ
and
we
have
private
firms
come
in,
they
come
and
do
a
study
and
they
give
us
the
answers.
Okay,
so
in
this
process
we've
left
them
out
so
I
would
not
support
the
entire
moratorium.
M
It's
amazing
all
the
flooding
that
we've
seen
in
particularly
on
the
peninsula
I
asked
my
colleague
seeking
zone
mister
sea
kings.
How
many
more
times
have
we
had
on
the
peninsula,
because
every
time
we
have
flooding
the
cameras
run
to
the
battery
right
and
they
had
one.
But
I'll
tell
you
what,
through
these
problems,
you
saw.
The
mayor
show
those
check
valves
all
those
were
answers
because
of
somebody
in
the
neighborhood
having
flooding
coming
with
you
and
your
neighbors.
M
As
you
did
to
say,
we
got
a
problem,
we
need
a
fix,
we
know
councilman
Gregory
stated
beautifully.
We
know
what
the
problems
are.
We
need
two
action
steps.
I
would
dare
say
that
if
this
were
brought
the
Public
Works,
not
only
you
see
action
steps,
I,
think
you
see
some
money
in
particular,
because
virtually
every
problem
out
there
is
a
clean,
ditch,
unclog,
pipe
or
a
larger
pipe.
M
Those
problems
out
there
is
not
a
pump
station,
won't
be
a
pump
station,
probably
not
most,
probably
not,
and
the
the
the
most
cost-effective
way
to
fix
any
drainage
problem
is,
with
an
open,
ditch
a
pipe
this
unclog
or
pipe
that's
properly
sized
and
right
now
we
know
we
have
those
problems
all
over
the
city,
even
after
the
church,
Creek
drainage,
piece
and
I.
Don't
know
that
I
can
put
my
life
on
it
and
say
that
all
the
ditches
out,
the
church,
Creek
drainage
basin,
all
the
pipes,
our
church,
Creek
drainage
basin
have
been
cleaned.
M
M
M
You
came
down
here
in
December
and
you
just
don't
know
how
effective
you
have
been
and
I
thank
each
and
every
one
of
your
neighbors
for
coming
out
tonight,
but
two
action
steps
and
that
Public
Works
Committee,
where
the
money
gets
appropriate
and
the
engineers
coming
with
the
how-to
and
eventually
gets
fitted
out
and
fixing
it
in
place,
so
I
would
recommend
that
it
comes
to
the
Public
Works
Committee
and
we
engage
the
private
sector
and
not
elbow
them
out
of
the
process.
Thank
you.
Mister.
Thank.
N
Just
like
to
say,
I
do
believe
we
caught
some
I'm
wearing
because
we've
been
talking
about
hugie
Street.
We
find
out
that
it
was
a
plan
on
the
shelf,
give
with
30
35
years
and
nothing's
never
been
done,
but
now
I
think
we're
going
to
get
something
done,
and
one
thing
we
found
out
too
that
the
pipes
in
there
are
too
small
to
hold
the
water.
So
we
got
that
we
got
to
do
preventative
maintenance.
We
got
to
look
at
this
project.
N
All
the
kids
like
these
people,
but
the
public
service
couldn't
push
committee,
that's
committee
to
Senator
and
that's
committee:
I
am
always
on
them
on
making
sure
it.
You
G
Street
here
just
feelings
down
with
it
I,
hopefully
this
year
now
we
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
that
it's
promise,
it's
gonna
get
done.
I!
Think
that's
how
we
need
to
look
at
some
of
these
other
projects
to
you.
We
got
a
good
plan
laid
out
for
public
we've,
been
preventive
maintenance
and
all
that.
N
So
hopefully
we
will
solve
a
lot
of
flood
problems
in
the
city
to
continue
to
push
at
it,
and
he
said
one
more
thing.
Mr.
mayor
we've
tackled
more
affordable
housing
and
more
drainage
problems,
and
the
last
three
and
a
half
years,
if
you've
been
there
very
quick
doing
that,
but
since
you've
been
there
and
you're
committed
to
that,
we
were
you
committed
to
that
acidity.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
those.
Yes,.
B
E
You
thank
you
mr.
mayor
I
apologize
for
you
know
being
perceived
to
be
belaboring
a
lot
of
the
words
and
thoughts
and
and
good
ideas
that
have
been
presented
here
tonight,
both
by
the
public,
who
are
the
people
that
live
this
and
also
by
us
in
the
way
that
we
are
now.
You
know,
choosing
to
educate
ourselves
and
be
as
knowledgeable
and
as
expert
as
we
have
in
our
lay
person's
ability
to
understand
all
of
these
things.
E
So,
first
of
all,
council
member
Gregory
I
totally
appreciate
that
there
were
a
couple
of
slides
that
were
supposed
to
come
up
after
the
doctor's
presentation,
but
I
guess
they
got
wiped
out
with
the
mayor's
state
of
the
city.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
know
that
I
have
been.
You
know,
potentially
intrusive
or
much
more
of
an
inquisitive
colleague
in
my
territory
of
James
Island
than
then
some
of
you
have
you
know
experienced
in
working
with
earlier
colleagues.
E
E
There
it
is
so
you
can
see
that
little
black
dot,
that's
my
house,
my
district
is
all
purple,
so
I'm
on
the
Ashley
River
side
of
James,
Island
and
I
go
all
the
way
down
to
just
all
agree
and
I'll
talk
about
this
one.
Then
you
can
show
the
next
slide,
which
is
the
south
part
of
the
island.
So
my
house
is
in
that
little
black
dot
and
it's
right
there,
where
it
says
document.
E
Yeah
I
love,
I,
live
on
some
people,
call
it
James,
Island
Creek,
some
people
call
it
Ellis
Creek.
My
house
looks
out
over
the
marsh
it's
created
by
that
creep,
shed
tidal
Creek
and
it
flows
to
the
Stono.
So
it
grows
under
Pali
Road,
where
my
kids
live
on
the
last
house
on
the
creek
before
it
crosses
for
under
Pali
Road,
and
then
it
comes
out
the
other
side
and
it
turns
green
and
then
on
either
side
of
the
dark.
Green
is
lime,
green
and
the
brown
is
across
what
mr.
E
Wagoner
likes
to
call
the
big
ditch.
We
call
the
Stono
River
and
that's
John's
Island,
so
we
are
all
woven
together
in
the
way
that
the
water
flows
and
the
water
impacts
our
own
lives
or
our
constituent
floods.
And
that's
where
I'm
you
know
reacting
so
I
know
that
I've
been
pushing
the
envelope
on.
You
know,
learning
things
that
are
not
really
my
particular
piece
of
dirt
to
be
representing,
but
it's
all
the
same
and
that's
really
been
the
thing.
E
That's
been
driving
me
so
and
in
please
flip
an
x-wing
just
so
you
can
see
the
south
part
of
the
island
is
that
the
inner
weaving
continues
all
the
way
down.
So
there's
like
a
little
purple
all
the
way
down
at
the
bottom
on
both
sides
of
Bali
roads.
It
heads
toward
the
beach
right
above
the
purple
on
the
right
there's
a
little
green
diagonal
there.
E
That's
the
corner
of
folly
and
Grimble
Road
extended,
and
it
actually
should
be
a
little
bigger
green
now,
because
we
annex
the
multifamily
property
in
there
a
year
or
so
ago.
But
my
my
constituents
live
behind
them
and
that's
where
the
water
is
flowing.
So
we've
got
problems
that
we
need
to
be
working
on
together
and
I.
Do
Thank,
You,
councillor,
Gregory
and
I.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
Mooney
and
I
Thank
You
councilmember
Wagner
in
particular,
for
giving
me
the
leeway
to
learn
by
doing
in
the
territory
that
we
all
care
about.
E
So
my
other
message,
I
want
to
circle
back
and
go
to
council
members
seeking
z'
at
the
very
end,
but
III
know
that
we've
had
our
differences
of
approach.
Councilmember
Gregory,
as
you
called
it
frankly,
I'm
a
multitasker
I
believe
that
we
should
be
sending
the
details
of
fixing
our
infrastructure
wherever
we
need
to
to
get
them
funded.
I
share
your
concerns.
I
see
central
Clark,
that's
my
travel
lane
to
River
land,
so
I
see
it
flooding
on
on
the
king
tag
days.
You
don't
have
to
convince
me
that
we
need
to
take
action.
E
I
called
our
senator
son
not
long
ago
when
we
were
having
the
king
tag,
flood
that
goes
over
the
over
the
road
and
said
senator
Sutton.
We
need
to
do
something:
that's
a
State
Road.
We
need
to
do
something
so
she
said.
Well,
it's
a
it's.
An
environmental
thing,
Oh
CRM
controls
that
what
we
can
do
in
in
the
marsh
on
either
side
of
that
road.
E
So,
together
we
got
Oh
CRM
to
have
an
audience
with
our
engineer,
Frank
Newman
and
he
went
and
talked
to
them
about
just
getting
permission
to
put
the
flaps
in
those
pipes
until
we
can
make
it
even
better
by
replacing
them.
So
that's
gonna
be
like
a
$35,000
fix
and
that's
on
the
left
under
the
current
budget
that
we
have.
We
are
problem
solvers,
but
what
I'm
concerned
about
and
I
have
I
want
to
salute.
Councilmember
sequins
I
think
you
just
had
a
lightbulb
moment.
E
What
I'm
concerned
about
what
this
type
of
legislation
is,
the
compounding
we
know.
What's
already,
there
is
not
working
and
broken
and
we're
talking
about
Wamba
we've
got
the
same
thing
on
Howell,
Avenue
I.
Think
the
mayor
misquoted
the
list
of
35
signatures.
They
were
from
the
people
and
Howell,
Avenue
and
I
know
you've
been
over
there
a
mayor
to
see
their
flooded
intersection
when
it,
the
water,
runs
down
a
couple.
A
bitch's
turns
a
corner
and
there's
no
ditch
to
receive
the
rest
of
that
water,
and
then
it
comes
back
and
floods.
E
Five
houses
are
on
this
intersection
on
Howell
Avenue
that
comes
across
from
Fleming.
We've
got
the
same
thing
on
Grimble,
it's
just
nice
dense
yet,
but
it
will
be
because
we're
permitting
density
on
the
south
part
of
James
Island
and
we
don't
have
the
regulations.
So
we
can
do
both.
That's
what
we
need
to
do
so
I
want
a
second
councilmember
seeking
is
brilliant
idea
that
we
should
just
enact
the
interim
standards
is
the
thing
that
every
development
is
going
to
have
to
live
by
until
we
get
the
final
product
done
at
the
AC
summer.
E
Alright,
then
I
will
support
on
the
basis
of
making
that
change
to
the
goal.
For
this
whole
process
was
to
have
regulations
that
are
better
protection
for
the
existing
neighborhoods
and
the
existing
properties
where
people
live
and
pay
taxes
in
the
face
of
having
new
development
put
put
in
there
in
there
in
there
in
their
area
and
their
contiguous
and
surrounding
area.
That's
my
goal:
if
we
can
do
it
with
enacting
interim
standards,
I'm
all
for
it
and
I'm
sure
I
can
turnout
people
that
would
you
know,
support
you
and
salute
you
for
doing
that.
J
J
Just
really
quickly
comment:
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
vote
for
a
deferral
and
sort
of
get
people.
Thinking
we're
still
thinking
about
this
moratorium.
I
would
like
to
vote
to
send
this
to
Public
Works,
to
review,
what's
in
here
particulates
embedded
in
here
on
the
standards,
but
this
isn't
going
to
come
back
again
for
debate
on
a
moratorium,
I'm
done,
but
it
wouldn't
need.
E
B
O
One
issue
that
I
just
wanted
you
all
to
clarify:
when
you
send
it,
there's
really
no
case
law
and
when
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine
absolutely
begins
to
apply,
you
may
want
to
clarify
that
you
intend
it
either
to
apply
or
not
to
apply
when
you
sit
it.
That's
what
I
understand
behind,
but
I'm
gonna
get
the
questions
and
I'd.
Rather
you
guys
made
that
decision.
Thank
you.
What.