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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 5/25/2021
B
C
D
D
So
if
you'll
indulge
me,
our
god
and
god
of
our
ancestors
with
mercy,
accept
our
prayer
on
behalf
of
our
country
and
its
government
pour
out
your
blessing
upon
this
land
upon
its
inhabitants
upon
its
leaders,
its
judges,
officers
and
officials
who
faithfully
devote
themselves
to
the
needs
of
the
public,
help
them
understand
the
rules
of
justice.
You
have
decreed
so
that
peace
and
security,
happiness
and
freedom
will
never
depart
from
the
land,
god
whose
spirit
is
in
all
creatures.
D
May
it
be
your
will
that
our
land
be
a
blessing
to
all
who
dwell
on
earth,
and
may
you
cause
all
peoples
to
dwell
in
friendship
and
freedom
speedily
fulfill
the
vision
of
your
prophets
quote
nation
not
lift
up
sword
against
nation.
Neither
shall
they
learn
war.
Any
more
end
quote
all
of
them
from
the
least
of
them.
To
the
greatest
shall
know
me
and
let
us
say,
amen,
amen,.
B
B
B
B
Just
in
case
we
get
a
a
little
glitch
with
our
technology,
but
I
believe
it's
all
working
well.
It
certainly
seems
to
be
so
far
so
for
our
first
proclamation,
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
wishes
to
recognize
one
of
south
carolina's,
most
distinguished
citizens,
edward
ledford,
who
lived
a
life
of
service
to
the
charleston
community.
B
His
leadership
and
passion
for
cydc
helped
to
expand
the
center's
services
to
berkeley
county
in
partnership
with
the
trident
united
way
and
other
community
partners
and
to
raise
funds
to
build
and
operate
kalyn
lacey
center
for
children.
Edward
ledford
was
also
responsible
for
bringing
big
brothers
big
sisters
to
cydc,
which,
where
it
operated
faithfully
for
40
years
until
becoming
an
independent
entity
in
2019,
edward,
remained
an
active
supporter
and
tireless
advocate
for
children
and
families.
B
Long
after
his
tenure
as
ceo
at
cydc
and
and
edward
led
with
his
heart
and
work
tires
tirelessly
to
improve
the
lives
of
thousands
of
children
and
families
throughout
the
low
country,
as
well
as
the
entire
state
of
south
carolina,
he
was
awarded
social
worker
of
the
year
from
the
national
association
of
social
workers,
coastal
south
carolina
chapter,
where
he
also
served
as
president.
He
worked
as
a
field.
B
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
I
john
j
teklenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
on
behalf
of
all
our
citizens
and
our
city
council,
hereby
recognize
mr
ledford's
lifetime
of
service
working
to
improve
child
welfare
in
charleston
and
across
the
low
country
enjoying
his
family
and
loved
ones
and
grieving
his
laws.
As
remember
as
we
remember,
the
lasting
legacy
is
left
on
our
community.
G
G
He
finally
decided
to
retire
from
that
job,
but
that
didn't
stop
him.
He
continued
to
volunteer
and
his
last
volunteer
job
was
helping
up
the
food
bank
at
bethel
methodist
church
up
until
the
pandemic,
which
stopped
stopped
at
work
for
him.
But
thank
you
so
much.
I
know
that
he
lived
here
for
over
55
years
and
some
folks
may
not
know
him,
but
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
of
sharing
his
legacy
with
those
that
are
here,
and
we
hope
that
his
life
work
will
inspire
others
to
love
their
community
and
and
their
neighbors.
Thank
you.
G
B
B
Please
come
a
little
closer,
whereas
shannon
walsh
o'brien
was
born
in
charleston
south
carolina.
Do
you
have
any
family
you'd
like
to
have
come
up
and
join
you
that'd
be
fine.
We
got
the
whole
section
over
here.
We
got
a
cheering
section
where
she
lived
with
her
parents
and
seven
siblings,
all
of
who
swam
at
the
jewish
community
center
when
they
were
kids
near
their
home
in
west
ashley
and
shannon
completed
competed
her
entire
adult
life.
B
As
a
competitive
member
of
the
palmetto
masters,
swim
team,
shannon's,
mother,
daisy
walsh,
worked
as
a
swim
coach
for
the
city
of
charleston's
youth,
swim
team
well
into
her
80s
and
still
swims
weekly
and
shannon
worked
for
the
charleston
county
school
district
for
more
than
30
years.
As
a
teacher,
a
coach
and
a
teacher
specialist
before
retiring
in
order
to
combine
her
love
of
swimming
and
teaching
shannon
walsh
o'brien
began
a
non-profit
called
the
low
country
aquatic
project
swimming
lapse,
known
as
which,
in
seven
years
of
operation
listen.
B
This
has
trained
more
than
five
thousand
kindergarten
and
first
grade
students
from
20
title
1,
schools
in
swimming
and
water
safety.
That's
really
remarkable.
Shannon
walsh
o'brien
is
an
extraordinary
example
of
a
public
servant,
teaching
the
wonderful
benefits
of
exercise
and
water
safety
to
children
all
throughout
the
low
country.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
tecklenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
along
with
city
council,
do
hereby
proclaim,
may
25th
today
2021,
it's
shannon
walsh
o'brien
day
in
the
city
of.
H
I
I
am
completely
humbled
by
this
proclamation
and
my
work
with
lapse
has
been
a
labor
of
love
and
I
have
some
of
my
staff
here.
That's
been
with
me
the
entire
time
this
would
have
been.
We
would
have
served
the
children
this
year
year,
nine,
but
with
covet.
We
couldn't
we
plan
on
continuing,
but
it's
my
partnership
with
the
city
of
charleston.
I
I
B
Thank
you
shannon,
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
personally,
I've
been
over
to
the
pool
while
shannon
and
the
lapse
team
have
been
given
these
lessons
and
it's
really
remarkable
and
it
occurred
to
me
as
we
went
through
the
last
few
years
of
year
after
year,
storm
after
storm,
and
you
know,
flooding
that's
occurred
in
our
city.
That
part
of
being
resilient
as
a
city
is
that
everyone
in
the
city
of
charleston
ought
to
know
how
to
swim.
B
Really
everybody
in
carlton
ought
to
know
how
to
swim
and
shannon
you
you've,
you're,
taking
us
there
and
and
your
creation
of
lapse
is,
is
a
a
remarkable
achievement.
Thank
you
again
so
much
so
next
we
have
a
presentation
to
be
given
to
us
by
the
wonderful
folks
at
the
clemson
design
and
architectural
center
ray
huff
is
the
director
david
pastner
is
the
senior
lecturer,
and
this
was
requested
by
councilmember
waring.
B
After
even
though
we've
had
years
of
collaboration
with
clemson
just
recently,
they
built
this
amazing
walkway
and
dock
over
in
the
ardmore
division,
west
ashley
and
after
councilmember
waring
mentioned
it
at
last
meeting
I
went
over
there
myself
and
took
some
pictures
and
walked
on
it.
It
is
really
beautiful
y'all
and
it's
provided
to
us
lovingly
at
no
charge
by
the
students
that
ray
and
david
mentor
over
there.
So
without
further
ado
ray
david,
you
all
want
to
give
us
a
little
presentation.
Let's
go
tigers.
J
Wait
a
minute,
mr
miller,
before
they
get
going,
you
know
before
caroline
and
clemson
plays
one
another.
Historically,
we
have
a
blood
drive
and
we
try
to
give
blood
to
help.
Obviously
the
community
and
the
state
at
large.
I
don't
think
it's
any
secret
that
I'm
a
big
carolina
fan.
Okay,
but
these
gentlemen
and
students
in
this
program
that
clemson
has
been
gracious
enough
to
extend
down
into
the
low
country,
has
exponential
benefits
not
only
from
the
students
gaining
experience.
J
J
They
draw
on
their
contacts
to
give
at
minimal
costs
not
only
to
this
city,
but
this
county
is
a
tri-county
benefit.
Our
metro
area
benefit
and
very
most
of
us,
don't
know
what
they
do.
Most
of
us
on
this
council
don't
know
what
they
do.
I
know
I
didn't
know
the
extent
of
what
they
have
done
until
I
witness
it
in
person,
and
they
do
it
in
areas
sometimes
that
don't
even
expect
it
so
that
impact
that
you're
about
to
see.
We
need
to
be
an
ally
too.
It
shouldn't
be
them
or
us.
J
K
K
The
tiger
paws
up
there
just
to
kind
of
make
sure
everybody
knows
we're
with
clemson,
and
one
of
the
main
you
know
being
a
land-grant
institution.
Is
that
it's
our
job
to
give
back
to
the
state,
and
so
it's
our
dedication
to
service
collaboration,
something
that
has
really
driven
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we've
done
over
the
years.
K
Do
stuff
within
the
city
work
closely
with
mayor
teckenberg
on
several
initiatives,
so
just
keep
that
in
mind
outreach,
but
I
direct
the
program
that
came
up
here
in
this
slide.
This
is
the
architecture
community
build
program,
and
what
that
is,
it's
a
certificate
program.
Students
that
come
to
clemson
for
a
master's
degree
are
interested
in
this
and
I've.
Basically
just
I've
written
something.
K
There's
a
quick
map
here
and
the
red
orange
dots
are
going
to
show
you
some
of
the
sites
in
which
we've
done
projects,
and
you
may
find
your
district
is
one
of
them
and
we
just
haven't.
Had
you
do
one
of
our
meetings
and
you
know
the
project
but
didn't
know
we
were
involved
so
we'll
maybe
cut
you
all
up
on
it
and
you'll
notice
there's
a
couple
that
are
down
in
john's
island
that
are
off
this
map.
K
K
This
is
a
project
that
was
actually
in
marion
square
and
stood
during
spolado,
and
it
was
a
kiosk
showing
different
events
that
were
happening
there.
It
would
light
up
blue
at
night,
and
then
it
was
a
little
bit
more
calm
in
the
daytime.
The
next
step,
too,
we
can
go
ahead
and
jump.
The
next
slide
is
build
a
mobile
movie
screen
and
during
splato
there
was
a
premiere
of
a
movie
that
was
shown
here
go
to
the
next
one.
K
This
is
one
I'm
particularly
proud
of.
This
was
a
project
that
the
halsey
in
which
we
created
a
stair
platform
for
a
show
called
return
to
the
sea.
Salt
works,
a
japanese
artist
by
the
name
of
moto
yamamoto
came,
and
he
lays
this
intricate
salt
work
across
the
the
ground.
It
was
a
great
concept,
but
was
no
way
to
really
take
it
in
as
part
of
the
show
given
the
confines
of
the
the
halsey
gallery.
K
So
we
fabricated
a
platform
it
had
about
an
eight
foot
cantilever
in
which
people
could
actually
get
up
on
and
see,
and
at
the
time
it
was
the
hot
most
highest
turnover
of
people
coming
through
to
see
a
show
that
the
halls
he
had
ever
had,
which
was
pretty
cool.
But
it
was
at
this
time
that
we
really
started
to
understand
that
these
are
very
impactful
projects
to
go
into
the
community,
but
they
were
temporary
and
that
kind
of
kind
of
got
at
me
after
a
little
while.
K
We
can
scroll
to
the
next
slide
at
this
point,
we're
really
focusing
on
trying
to
do
some
permanent
structures
and
we're
also
trying
to
find
partnerships.
We
know
that
everything
we
do
is
stronger
with
the
more
people
we
can
work
with.
So
we
started
to
work
with
some
of
our
extension
agencies.
This
was
brought
to
us
project
by
our
extension
for
community
and
economic
development,
and
so
a
gap
shed
is
something
in
which
farmers
can
go
ahead
and
use
process
their
vegetables
so
that
they
can
go
to
sale.
K
This
was
also
done
with
a
non-profit,
sweetgrass
garden,
and
this
is
a
johns
island
project
just
off
of
plow
ground.
The
one
following
is
also
one:
that's
right.
Next
to
it,
it
ended
up
being.
This
is
a
reclaimed
single,
wide
trailer,
60
foot,
long
that
we
took
from
the
chassis
rebuilt
completely
and
framed,
and
it
houses
a
commercially
graded
kitchen,
one
in
which
allows
farmers
to
share
in
the
area
and
process
at
dhec
and
usda
certified
ways.
This
was
a
partnership
we
did
with
college
of
charleston
and
make
sure
I
don't
say
wrong.
K
They
are,
I
think,
the
riley
center
for
social
impact
and
healthy
living.
They
went
ahead
and
they
don't.
They
brought
the
money
to
the
project.
We
went
ahead
and
created
this.
This
prototype
in
which
now
is
still
being
used,
and
this
is
where
we
go
up
to
greenville.
The
next
slide
built
a
second
one
up
there
and
mill
village
farms
up.
There
is
still
running
that
one
again,
so
that
the
whole
concept
was
so
local
foods
could
get
into
the
schools
and
schools
required.
K
K
We
had
a
project
that
we
were
working
on
with
the
city
and
the
conservancy
back
in
the
fall
of
2020
or
spring
of
2020.
When
that
canceled
at
spring
break,
we
were
at
a
loss,
for
what
can
we
do
and
we
wanted
to
do
something
so
we
partnered
up
with
musc
they
had
created,
and
a
lot
of
you
probably
spent
some
time
in
line
at
this
drive
through
testing
center.
K
It
was
one
of
the
first
in
the
country
if
you
didn't
know
that,
and
it
also
was
very
cutting
edge
in
the
way
they
cued
people
in
line,
so
they
needed
help
documenting
that
so
that
they
could
share
it
worldwide.
So
our
students
weeks
I
mean
we're.
This
is
from
spring
break
on
we're
talking
six
or
seven
weeks,
help
them
put
together
an
80-page
document
which
they
shared
and
during
that
process
we're
realizing
that
it
was
not
equitable.
K
K
K
Go
to
the
next
slide.
We
like
to
work
with
non-profits.
These
are
a
couple
of
projects
we
did
with
enough
pie.
Vad
shack
is
a
mobile
indigo,
dyeing
station,
in
which
I
can
move
from
school
to
school
and
go
ahead
and
do
seminars
with
our
with
students
and
on
the
right
is
a
project.
That's
along
king
street.
K
It's
right
behind
the
first
african
evangelical
christian
church
and
near
like
food
lion
up
in
that
neck
of
the
woods,
but
it
was
a
partnership
between
that
church,
enough,
pi,
the
dart
library
and
this.
This
structure
is
there
as
sort
of
an
outside
place
to
read
for
students
and
after-school
programs
and
redux
also
kind
of
helped
with
the
murals
and
some
things
along
there.
K
K
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
one
that's
that's
pretty
near
and
dear
a
very
recent
one
we
did,
which
was
a
partnership
with
greenheart
project
and
the
charleston
housing
authority.
So
this
one
was.
This
was
a
tricky
one.
We
had
to
work
not
only
with
the
city,
the
housing
authority,
but
we
had
this
project
had
to
go
before
the
bar
and
get
approval,
and
it's
at
this
point.
K
I
should
note
that
these
projects
that
you're
seeing
here
with
the
exception
of
the
two
commercially
graded
kitchens,
are
ones
that
we
do
in
a
semester's
time.
So
we're
talking
four
months
start
to
finish.
We
do
community
sessions,
we
we
go
through
design
iterations,
we
do
a
full
set
of
construction
documents,
get
building
permits,
and
in
this
case
I
had
to
go
before
bar
and
get
approval
so
anyway,
this
is
one
in
which
it's
it's
very
successful.
Now
and
greenheart
does
great
work,
bringing
you.
They
also
have
a
farmer's
market.
K
There
weekly
we'll
go
to
the
next
one,
and
this
is
going
to
be
a
series
that
I
show
you
now
are
really
where
our
probably
tightest
partnership
has
been
to
date,
which
has
been
the
charleston
parks
conservancy.
We
we
really
rely
on
them
and
any
of
our
non-profits,
I'm
being
like
sort
of
the
boots
on
the
ground.
Getting
a
community
excitement
for
us
coming
in.
K
We
don't
want
to
look
as
like
we're
flying
in
to
try
to
save
people,
but
what
we
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
get
our
students
this
experience
and
be
able
to
apply
our
skills
in
a
positive
way.
So
you
know
these
projects
have
a
few
years
in
the
making
for
sure,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
come
in
and
help
put
it
together
quickly.
This
was
a
seating
and
shade
structure,
which
was
a
playground
renovation
up
at
crin
jones
in.
M
K
Wagner
terrace
neighborhood
the
next
slide
here.
This
is
sort
of
our
big
kickoff
for
the
community
garden.
You
know
push
that's
been
happening
through
all
the
neighborhoods.
This
was
one
we
did
with
the
magnolia
community
garden.
We
built
this
structure
first
with
no
beds
in
place
and
then
the
garden
kind
of
grew
around
at
one
of
those
field
of
dreams,
sort
of
things
and
the
community
has
taken
that
on
and
enjoyed
it
moving
forward.
K
It
was
a
project
that
was
on
the
books
with
jason
kronsberg,
and
I
and
I
need
to
mention
that
jason
has
been
involved
with
all
of
these.
I'm
just
bringing
him
up
now,
but
he
comes
and
he
meets
with
our
students.
He
sits
in
our
reviews.
He
helps
us
coordinate
with
the
city
parks
department
and
their
their
work.
K
So
it's
it's
been
a
wonderful
relationship
and
in
this
project
in
particular,
we,
our
students,
work
very
closely
with
folks
in
the
parks
department,
the
pouring
of
concrete
learning
firsthand
from
their
masons
and
and
grounds
crews.
We
it's
just
the
students,
light
up,
because
they're
tired
of
hearing
me
talk
and
the
folks
at
the
city
are
just
loving
the
chance
to
get
to
work
with
our
students.
This
project
next
year
is
the
one
that
con
wearing
has
been
bringing
up.
This
is
mulberry
crossing.
Interestingly,
this
isn't
even
a
park.
K
We're
real
excited
about
that
and
the
next
project
going
forward
with
the
parks
conservancy.
This
fall.
I've,
like
I
mentioned
before
I've
got
a
couple
students
here
that
are
happy
to
answer.
I
don't
want
to
go
over.
I
don't
even
know
what
my
time
was,
but
I've
tried
to
make
it
quick,
there's
also
a
website
at
the
bottom
of
that,
so
you
can
follow
along
on
all
our
projects.
It's
clemsoncommunitybuild.com
anyway.
O
All
right,
so
I'm
john
owens,
I'm
actually
a
graduate
student
with
clemson
who
decided
to
take
the
community
build
year-long
program,
and
it's
really
seeing
that
up
there,
because
you'd
be
surprised
at
an
architecture
school.
This
is
my
sixth
year
and
that's
the
first
thing
that
I
designed
that
actually
got
built
and
so
like.
It's
still
just
weird
to
see
it
yeah.
O
I
think
the
best
part
was
just
going
to
site
every
single
day
for
a
month
straight
and
just
seeing
all
the
people
that
were
there,
oh
okay,
my
bad,
I
usually
get
taught.
I
have
a
booming
boys,
but
the
best
part
was
just
going
to
site
every
single
day
and
seeing
community
members
that
are
driving
by
like
slow
down
to
see
what
you're
doing
or
people
on
the
bikeway
get
off
their
bikes
and
then
talk
about
how
excited
they
are
to
have
their
kid.
O
P
Hi,
I'm
mia
walker,
I'm
an
undergraduate
student
at
clemson
I'll
be
a
fourth
year.
This
coming
semester
and,
like
john
said,
I
think,
like
the
main
part
of
this
project
was
not
only
you
know,
being
able
to
design
something
and
have
it
be
built,
but
seeing
the
reaction
that
the
community
gave
was
like
really
really
important.
I
think,
during
our
review
we
had
a
gentleman
speak
up
about
how
this
impacted.
R
B
So,
thank
you
all
very
much
I
mean
seeing
the
projects
is
just
amazing
and
boy.
Are
we
glad
to
give
you
an
opportunity
for
this
experience
because
we've
all
benefited
our
whole
community
has
so
david
students?
Thank
you
all.
I
do
also
want
to
share
with
council.
Very
briefly,
there's
three
divisions
right
ray
of
the
program
here
and
there's
the
historic
preservation,
division
and
they've
helped
the
city
on
many
initiatives,
including
elevating
our
homes
and
in
our
dutch
dialogues.
They
hosted
us
for
that
conference
now.
B
In
addition,
their
urban
resilient
design
component
will
be
assisting
the
city
in
our
big
project,
with
the
corps
of
engineers
to
three
by
three
study,
to
help
make
sure
that
the
design
is
appropriate
and
best
for
charleston.
So
I
mean
there
there's
just
so
many
so
much
value
to
our
relationship.
We
can't
thank
you
enough.
Go
tigers,
all
right.
B
That's
a
great
idea:
we
can
do
that.
Terrific!
Thank
you!
So
one
other
little
two
other
announcements,
if
I
may,
before
we
go
forward
with
our
public
hearings,
stiletto
and
piccolo
spaletto
open
this
coming
friday.
So
in
addition
to
getting
quote
back
to
normal
by
having
in-person
meetings
well,
it
frankly
feels
like
somebody
just
turned
the
switch
back
on
after
covid
now
and
we're
getting
back
to
so
many
normal
things
that
we
love
and
enjoy
like
stiletto.
B
I
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
one-year
anniversary
of
the
terrible
murder
of
george
floyd
a
year
ago
and
then
also
publicly
acknowledged
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
the
video
that
our
community
saw
of
jamal
sutherland
as
he
was
killed
last
january
at
the
county,
jail
and-
and
we
view
this
as
a
a
horrible
tragedy
at
the
intersection
of
mental
health
treatment
and
the
criminal
justice
system,
and
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
and
work
with
our
community
to
improve
those
services
and
policing
and
criminal
justice.
So
this
cannot
happen
again.
B
I
do
want
to
let
council
know
you
know
our
valued
partner,
the
medical
university
expertise
in
so
many
areas,
including
mental
illness
and
treatment.
I
called
dr
cole.
We
had
a
meeting
this
past
week
of
city
staff
and
with
staff
from
the
department
of
psychiatry
and
with
dr
cole,
and
he
plans
to
form,
along
with
our
assistance,
a
regional
task
force,
to
come
up
with
recommendations
to
address
both
mental
health
treatment
and
and
policing
matters
as
a
as
those
two
converge.
B
So
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
that
for
everyone.
Thank
you.
Next
is
our
public
hearings,
and
normally
christopher
morgan
presents
these
to
us.
Christopher.
Are
you
out
there?
Are
you
online
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
first
one
is
a
resolution
to
adopt
the
amended
street
tree
manual
in
the
city
of
charleston,
christopher.
T
C
B
T
Okay,
all
right,
so
the
first
item
is
here
at
2012
meeting
street
road.
This
is
item
e2
tax
map,
466
160012,
it's
about
a
third
of
an
acre.
It's
to
rezone
this
property
from
general
business
to
light
industrial
as
you
can.
I
hope
you
can
see
my
cursor
on
the
map
here.
Oh
didn't
need
to
do
that
on
the
map
here
the
property
is
outlined
with
the
black
outline
and
it
is
adjacent
to
other
light.
Industrial.
T
That's
in
the
city
also
adjacent
to
some
commercial
property
that
is
under
charleston
county
jurisdiction
and
then
everything
further
to
the
north
is
in
north
charleston.
So
it's
at
the
upper
reach
of
our
city
limits.
It
was
reviewed
by
the
planning
commission
and
they
recommend
approval
seven
to
zero
on
this.
It's
in
our
comprehensive
plan
as
adjacent
to
this
job
center
and
industrial
area
in
the
neck.
That's
part
of
why
we
recommended
for
it
here
is
an
aerial
view.
T
You
can
see
a
large,
auto
lot
and
auto
establishment
to
the
north
and
then
railroad
tracks
across
to
the
west,
a
a
vacant
lot
and
adult
establishment
to
the
south
south
and
then
further
to
the
south.
A
gas
station,
and
here
is
another
image
of
the
subject.
Property
residential
structure
is
currently
on
the
property
and
here's
the
residential
structure,
that's
on
the
property
and
here's
just
another
street
view
and
another
view
from
the
street.
B
B
T
T
A
W
T
B
T
Okay,
this
is
738
saint
andrews
boulevard
tax
map
418-150081,
it's
a
quarter
of
an
acre,
it's
a
request
for
general
office
zoning.
It
was
in
the
county's
st
andrews
overlay
district
in
charleston
county,
and
it
was
an
office
designation.
In
that
district
it
was
recommended
for
the
g.o
eight
to
zero
by
planning
commission.
T
It
is
in
our
highway
designation
and
our
current
plan
under
st
andrews,
so
the
office
designation
would
be
appropriate
for
that.
Here
is
an
image
of
the
structure
and
you
can
see
it
has
signage
and
is
been
renovated
in
such
a
way
to
be
an
office
at
present,
and
both
staff
and
planning
commission
recommended
for
the
g.o.
A
J
B
T
Okay,
this
is
e5
at
3919
savannah
highway
in
the
red
top
area
of
west
ashley
tax
map,
28500
205.,
it's
a
1.83
acre
parcel.
It's
a
request
of
zoning
general
business.
It
was
zoned
community
commercial
in
charleston
county.
It's
a
vacant
parcel
planning
commission
recommended
for
this
rezoning
for
the
zoning
by
seven
to
zero
vote.
Here
is
an
image
of
it
in
our
current
plan.
It
also
is
in
our
highway
designation,
so
the
gb
would
be
appropriate
for
that
here
you
see
the
undeveloped
property.
T
Of
course
there
is
some
wetland
area
that
would
not
be
able
to
be
developed,
but
there
is
a
good
bit
of
high
area
highland
area
adjacent
to
the
highway,
and
that
is
where
any
new
structures
would
have
to
go
and
again.
Staff
and
planning
commission
recommended
approval
for
the
general
business
on
this
property.
B
T
T
This
was
a
portion
of
the
right-of-way
that
previously
had
been
unzoned
that
needed
to
be
zoned
to
the
general
business
category.
The
remainder
of
the
apartment
complex,
as
you
can
see
from
this
image,
the
vast
majority
of
the
apartment,
complex,
was
zoned
general
business
and
apparently
the
developer
did
not
get
this
accomplished
before
they
began
construction
on
the
apartment
complex
because,
of
course,
the
apartment
complex
is
now
built.
T
Planning
commission
recommended
for
this
gb
with
a
eight
to
zero
vote,
and
it
is
in
our
neighborhood
center
designation
in
the
current
comprehensive
plan,
so
that
would
fit
with
the
general
business
and
here's
an
image.
This
is
when
the
site
was
under
construction
and
it's
an
extension
of
floyd
drive
that
was
not
built
on
with
the
roadway,
but
ultimately
it
had
the
apartment
units
that
were
built
upon
it,
and
these
are
now
complete
on
the
site.
B
Have
a
motion
to
approve
any
questions,
comments
from
counsel,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
He
has
have
it.
That
is
the
end
of
our
public
hearings.
Next
is
our
approval
of
may
11
minutes
any
submissions,
deletions,
corrections,
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Have
it
next
up
and
we
so
thankful
to
have
you
all
here
with
us
tonight
again
in
person?
Is
our
citizens
participation
period,
madame
clerk?
B
We
have
about
30
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
and
we
normally
a
lot
just
a
half
hour
for
this
period.
So
I'm
going
to
respectfully
ask
you,
try
to
keep
your
remarks
to
a
minute
and
then
we'll
notify
you
when
a
minute's
up
and
and
and
don't
cut
you
off
right
in
the
middle
of
the
senate,
but
just
finish
your
thought
and
and
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
proceed.
B
A
A
S
How's
everyone,
terrific
hi
cool,
I'm
the
owner
of
booze
pops
here
in
charleston,
south
carolina,
I'm
here
today
for
this
mobile
ordinance.
That's
going
forward!
That's
going
to
completely
shut
down
our
business.
We
created
this
business
here
in
charleston
and
made
this
business
in
charleston
and
now
we're
looking
at
shutting
it
down
with
the
250-foot
ordinance
of
being
no
mobile
food
trucks
within
any
restaurants,
as
well
as
the
130..
S
I'm
asking
every
the
council
members
to
vote
no
on
this
ordinance.
This
ordinance.
What
we
do
I
know
the
name
booze
pops
is
miss,
is
deceiving,
but
we
create
safe
places
for
these
people
to
go
after
the
bars,
we're
giving
them
free
water,
we're
giving
them
we're,
helping
them
get
ubers
every
weekend
and
they're
not
hammered
or
drunk.
Because
of
us,
we're
out
here
just
trying
to
create
a
safe
place
to
make
this
city
better.
We've
been,
you
know,
and
we've
been
in
travel
and
leisure
magazine
reasons
to
discover
america.
S
C
S
I
retired
before
I
started
this
business.
I
worked
over
in
afghanistan,
iraq
for
eight
years
contracting
before
the
army.
I
was
injured.
I
made
this
business
for
my
daughters
and
to
put
people
to
work
and
we
put
over
250
people
to
work
since
I've
opened
this
great
and
and
this
was
going
to
cause
about
30
jobs
to
be
lost
if
it
passes.
A
N
Thank
you.
Oh
man,
charleston
a
powerful
city.
We
need
some
help.
I'm
asking
you
know
to
vote
no
on
this.
I've
been
trying
to
get
help
in
this
city
with
tourism,
I'm
a
small
black
owned
tourism
company.
I've
been
trying
to
sell
my
tickets,
you
know
around
the
city's
real
small
business,
and
this
was
the
only
company
that
helped
me
to
sell
my
tickets
other
than
you
know
on
my
own.
I'm
just
asking
for
you
guys
to
really
look
at
the
situation.
It's
a
really
good
business.
It
really
is.
N
Y
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
the
council,
my
name
is
mary
willis.
I
am
an
attorney
in
mount
pleasant
and
I
represent
woodrow
norris
and
booze
pops.
In
addition
to
that,
he's
also
been
a
long
time
friend
of
mine.
I
have
looked
over
this
ordinance
and
done
some
independent
research
on
whether
or
not
educate
is
actually
actually
constitutional,
and
I
think
there
are
certainly
some
constitutional
challenges
under
both
the
fifth
and
the
fourteenth
amendment
to
restrict
my
client
from
operating
on
his
private
property.
Y
You
all
may
not
know
this,
but
booze
pops
operates
at
four
different
locations
on
private
property
downtown.
He
is
in
an
area
that
is
so
condensed
with
restaurants
that
there
is
no
conceivable
way
that
he
could
get
consent
from
every
restaurant
owner.
He
would
be
required
to
obtain
ongoing
consent
from
over
a
hundred
restaurants
at
any
given
time.
Y
Thought,
in
addition
to
that,
the
purpose,
as
stated
in
this
ordinance,
is
to
the
social
upheaval
and
the
need
to
manage
crowds
after
hours
downtown
a
250
foot
rule
has
no
bearing
to
whether
or
not
the
city
is
able
to
get
some
of
the
violence
and
upheaval
under
control
after
hours.
So
we
would
ask
that
you
say
no
to
this
amendment
and
I'm
available
and
have
to
discuss
if
anyone
would
like
to
talk
further.
Thank
you.
Z
Z
I
just
don't
think
this
amendment
is
really
going
after
the
issue
that
you
have
before
you
specifically
in
regards
to
section
17-121
b.
You
know
our
client
is
there
to
help
the
public
when
they
need
to.
They
are
not
serving
people
that
are
intoxicated;
they
are
providing
free
water,
as
my
client
said,
and,
moreover,
they
have
somebody
there.
That
is
sober
the
entire
time,
they're,
not
drinking
off
the
truck
and
they're
in
these
private
parking
lots
trying
to
run
a
business.
Z
N
F
A
F
It's
a
shame
the
way,
how
all
always
street
look
with
those
trash
containers
garbage
on
the
street
co-enforcement
need
to
step
up,
and
these
stores
that
don't
do
anything
but
hurt
our
kids.
The
people
from
housing
authority
was
there
today
and
all
these
kids
coming
off
of
a
gas
and
green
on
this.
On
the
other
side
of
the
street,
creating
problems,
the
police
have
a
difficult
job
in
the
city,
but
we
as
a
community
have
to
take
responsibility
for
our
kids.
You
need
to
hold
the
parents
accountable,
not
these
kids.
B
X
B
L
Good
evening,
I'm
paige,
and
this
is
harrison.
We
live
at
creek
point
and
I'm
here
representing
many
of
the
creek
point
residents
and
we
wanted
to
address
the
the
drainage
ditches
that
have
been
put
into
our
yards.
Basically,
the
bell
is
wrong.
We
have
these
huge
ditches
in
our
yards.
People
are
going
to
tell
you
that
we
don't
have
flooding
here.
I
looked
in
the
the
study
that
gave
the
30
basins
and
our
sub
basin
has
not
had
flooding
in
40
years.
L
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear,
even
within
the
report
that
this
work
was
based
on.
But
here
we
are,
our
money
has
been
wasted.
Our
money
has
been
wasted
to
dig
trenches
in
our
yards,
and
our
children
are
have
already
been
falling
in
these
ditches.
They
are
so
deep
in
some
cases
that
small
children
could
drown
on
them
and
we
wouldn't
even
see
them
in
there.
L
L
If
it's
so
safe,
then
why
can't
you
guys
be
liable?
It's
not
fair
that
the
liability
is
on
us
with
these
massive
ditches
that
are
unsafe,
first
responders
can't
make
it
into
our
homes.
If
we
have
cars
in
our
parking
lots
right
now
or
our
driveways
right
now,
so
we,
our
main
priorities,
are
relieve
us
of
the
liability
and
return
the
soil
and
go
look
back
at
that
plan
and
analyze
the
data,
don't
just
say:
there's
28
work
orders
here!
This
is
the
worst
place.
L
AB
AB
A
AC
AC
We
had
a
wall
on
the
southern
border
of
the
united
states
that
was
well
underway
that
stopped
when
people
realized
it
was
wrong.
We
had
a
pipeline
when
certain
people
realized
it
was
wrong,
stop
right
now,
so
that
you
don't
diminish
the
value
of
our
properties.
I
doubt
very
seriously
when
you
get
to
rebellion
road,
chadwick,
formosa,
drive
and
broughton
road
in
the
crescent
that
you're
going
to
do
this
through
getting
the
house
yard
you're
not
going
to
do
that,
you
shouldn't
do
it
to
mine.
B
E
M
E
AD
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
my
name
is
dr
john
franklin.
I'm
a
hospice
palliative
medicine
and
geriatric
physician
at
the
charleston
va
medical
center
and
a
resident
of
creek
point
some
of
you.
The
mayor
and
council
person.
Jackson
have
seen
what
we're
talking
about
time.
Five
foot
11.
AD
AD
I've
read
the
stormwater
management
report
for
james
island
drainage
study
from
thomas
and
hutton
very
comprehensive
with
one
exception.
This
is
the
sign
that
james
island,
that
the
city
has
put
up,
and
it
says,
with
improved
drainage.
We
can
improve
the
quality
of
life
of
our
citizens
and
the
water
quality
of
our
local
waterways
you're,
certainly
not
going
to
improve
our
quality
of
life.
My
question
to
you
is:
where
is
the
environmental
impact
study.
C
AD
Just
going
to
read
you
a
warning
on
this
on
every
chemical
I
use
in
my
yard,
pesticide
fertilizer,
insecticide
rhodenside
to
protect
the
environment,
do
not
allow
pesticide
to
enter
runoff
into
storm
drains
drainage,
ditches
gutters,
applying
this
pro.
So
here's
another
one
for
seven.
This
product
is
extremely
toxic
to
aquatic
invertebrates.
Please
drop
do
so
all
this
stuff
are
chemicals
going
into
this
drainage
ditch
into
the
james
island
creek
right
in
my
backyard,
where
my
question
to
you
is:
has
an
environmental
impact
study
been
done?
Thank
you,
sir.
AE
I've
lived
in
creek
point
for
33
years
and
at
first
we
thought
the
you
know.
We
weren't
alarmed
by
the
notices
on
our
doors
that
they
were
going
to
do
drainage
ditches.
So
we
thought
we'd
have
a
nice
little
uniform
ditch,
but
instead
the
city
brought
their
bulldozers
out
there
and
gouged
out
these
ugly
ragged
jagged
trenches
and
they
weren't
standard
there
weren't
a
standard
width
or
depth.
I've
got
a
six
foot
trench
and
behind
my
mailbox,
and
that
is
the
widest
depth.
It
goes
to
a
depth
of
let's
see
from
four
feet.
AE
AE
AE
According
to
the
south
carolina
d-hec
regulations
and
standards
of
stormwater
management
and
sediment,
the
land-disturbing
activity
is
defined
by
use
of
land
by
any
entity
that
results
in
the
change
of
the
natural
cover
of
topography
that
may
cause
erosion
and
contribute
to
the
quantity,
quantity
and
quality
of
stormwater
runoff.
So
the
city's
drainage
ditches
are
not
stormwater,
they
are
land
disturbing
activities.
C
H
Good
evening,
I'm
here
today,
because
I
was
I
coach
at
westchester
park
doing
coaching
for
41
years.
One
thing
I
enjoy
doing
what
I
do,
one
of
the
things
that
when
we
come
to
y'all
and
actually
offer
help-
and
we
don't
get
help-
it
really
hurts.
You
know
it
bothers
me,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
kids.
That
goals
out
every
year
come
out
here
and
compete.
They
try
to
be
the
best.
They
can
be
we're
losing
a
lot
of
our
kids
at
the
streets.
H
A
lot
of
these
kids
go,
they
break
in
people's
cars,
they're
breaking
home,
they
do
things
because
they
don't
have
anything
to
do.
We
ask
for
a
gym.
We
act
for
a
gym
because
we
really
need
a
gym
because
we
get
a
gym.
We
can
take
all
these
kids
off
the
street
and
put
them
in
something
where
they
can
be.
They
can
have
something
to
do.
I've
came
I've
talked
to
several
city
council
members,
and
it
bothered
me
and
disturbed
me
that
there
are
some
that
have
really
helped
me.
H
I
mean
it
really
helped
me
and
there's
something
who
didn't
help
me,
but
right
now,
I'm
at
the
point
where
we
need
help
we're
trying
to
give
these
kids
something
to
do,
and
we
we
got
w
graciously
make
it
right
there,
a
gym
that
can
be
the
least
can
probably
be
leased
to
have
where
we
can
have
something
to
do
when
it
rains
these
kids
don't
have
no
way
to
go
when
it
cold.
They
have
no
way
to
go.
H
We
need
something
for
these
kids
and
I'm
coming
to
y'all
and
asking
y'all
for
help,
and
I
feel
like
we're
dealing
with
our
baby.
These
are
kids
that
don't
have
anywhere
to
go
and
when
these
kids
get
out
there
and
get
in
trouble,
then
everybody
want
to
say
well
where's
this
person
where's
that
person
I'm
coming
to
y'all
now,
because
I'm
tired
of
seeing
on
jm
roll
and
all
I
see
is
kids
being
killed,
it's
happening
all
over
now.
H
A
AF
A
AG
AG
AG
We
are
all
very
much
against
the
current
ditch
process,
but
what
I
would
like
to
speak
about,
because
we
have
talked
about
several
of
the
aspects
from
the
environmental
to
the
safety
to
the
general
concerns.
I
would
like
to
also
mention,
because
we're
all
homeowners,
the
property
value,
the
aesthetics
charleston-
is
a
beautiful
city,
the
most
beautiful
city
in
the
world,
and
we
love
living
here.
AG
What
is
happening
in
our
neighborhood
is
not
beautiful
and
we
deserve
better
than
what
we
are
seeing.
The
ditches
as
we're
mentioned,
are
uniform.
They
are
ragged,
they're
cut
throughs
and
yards
they're
tearing
out.
There
are
thousands
of
dollars
worth
of
irrigation.
That
has
been
there,
and
I
understand
that
there
was.
C
AG
B
A
A
AF
That
that's
fine!
You
got
the
last
name
perfectly
mayor
council,
member
staff.
My
name
is
ali
minagakis,
I'm
an
attorney,
I'm
a
criminal
defense
attorney.
I
practice
in
florida
and
charleston,
I'm
also
the
founder
and
executive
director
of
south
carolina
for
criminal
justice
reform,
and
I'm
also
the
chair
of
the
city
ordinance
committee
for
the
city
of
charleston,
special
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
AF
I
understand
that,
there's
an
ordinance,
a
curfew,
juvenile
curfew,
violation
ordinance,
is
being
proposed.
We
have
not,
as
the
ordinance
committee
been
consulted
regarding
this
ordinance.
We
would
at
least
like
to
talk
about
the
problems
that
we
see.
I've
reviewed
it.
Our
teams
reviewed
it
at
sc
for
cjr.
We
believe
there's,
arguably
some
constitutional
challenges
to
it.
But,
aside
from
that
from
the
appearance
of
this,
this
ordinance,
I
think
that
it
can
have
grave
disparate
impacts,
especially
on
people
of
color
and
children
of
color.
AF
This
is
the
one
year
anniversary
of
george
of
the
death
of
george
floyd
and
the
reaction
so
far
to
isolated.
Excuse
me
we're
curious
what
research
has
been
done
to
suggest
that
such
a
curfew
would
actually
have
any
effect
whatsoever
on
the
alleged
crime
that
juveniles
are
committed,
so
we
just
ask
research
to
be
done
and
be
consulted
and
an
actual
analysis
be
done
on
this
issue
before
any
ordinance
is
passed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
AH
Evening,
I'm
sabrina
politis
from
creek
point
by
this
point.
Clearly,
you
all
know
how
unhappy
we
are
about
this
project.
It
was
billed
as
a
neighborhood
improvement.
It's
been
far
from
from
an
improvement,
and
we
are
here
to
let
the
mayor
and
city
council
know
that
we
are
not
happy
and
we
seek
immediate
action
on
your
part
as
our
island
neighbors
and
representatives
to
remedy
the
situation
why
safety
is
number
one
you've
already
heard
tales
of
kids
falling
into
ditches.
I
have
two
neighbors
within
view
of
my
home
with
limited
mobility,
one
has
small
children.
AH
AH
AI
Sir
mayor
mayor
members,
council,
it's
good
to
see
everyone
in
person.
Finally,
just
wanted
to
take
a
quick
moment
and
say
thank
you
for
taking
up
the
ordinance
to
look
at
the
minimum
parking
requirements
as
we
look
to
reopen
businesses.
I
think
this
is
a
great
first
step
to
getting
folks
back
in
the
business
district.
AI
AJ
Welcome
good
evening
how
y'all
doing
today,
great
good
councilman
mayor
I'd
like
to
thank
y'all
and
completing
it.
What
joe
was
talking
about
earlier,
I'm
a
retired
federal
officer.
Now
I
work
with
the
program
with
coaching
with
the
kids
and
everything
else,
so
we
was
trying
to
get
the
gym,
so
we
hope
that
y'all
we
can
improve
the
gym
that
we
can
have.
We
expand
the
rides
and
be
done
because
we
can
save
one.
We
can
save
a
million.
AJ
You
know
point
to
these
young
man,
you
know
being
in
correction
for
27
years.
I
understand
it
just
take
a
word
or
two
just
listening
and
being
there.
So
with
this
all
said
and
done,
I
hope
and
pray
that
we
can
receive
the
gym
and
we
can
continue
to
struggle
develop
a
better
young
man.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
A
AH
AK
Thank
you
all.
It's
good
to
see
you
all
in
person,
jason
crowley,
communities
and
transportation
director
with
the
coastal
conservation
league,
I'm
here
to
speak
with
regard
to
the
municipal
improvement
district.
That's
being
considered
this
evening
for
john's
island
conservation
league
thinks
that
this
is
a
very
positive
move
for
john's
island.
AK
Getting
the
southern
pitchfork
completed,
as
well
as
the
network
of
parallel
roads
on
either
side
of
maybank
highway
corridor,
which
comes
out
of
the
johns
island
community
plan
and
also
the
opportunity
to
address
stormwater
infrastructure
and
programming
and
building
out
the
three
parks
that
are
well
two
current
parks
and
one
potential
park.
That
is
right
there
in
the
maybank
corridor.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
and
supporting
this
as
it
moves
forward.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
B
A
M
M
A
R
Council
member
ross
appel
should
be
recused
from
any
discussions
or
service
regarding
the
roads
and
country
club
number
two.
I
ask
the
other
members
of
council
mayor
for
help.
Stopping
this
miscarriage
of
justice
and
cronyism
the
traffic
negatively
impacts
our
street
24
7
and
not
just
during
school.
Mr
appel
is
engaged
in
prejudicial
actions,
thoughts
and
defamatory
statements
about
me
in
email
discussions.
R
Sorry,
he
thinks
I
have
lost
my
mind
and
he's
had
it
with
me.
Mr
appel
solicited
negative
comments,
spread
the
word
and
those
comments
from
38
families
called
the
roads
closed.
I
doubt
he
did
the
same
with
blessed
sacrament
mr
repel
maintains
the
roads
are
not
closed
and
incorrectly
states.
They
are
barricaded
with
growing
pine
trees.
The
city
has
an
undebatable
non-discretionary
duty
to
maintain
and
make
open
roads
accessible
digging
up,
asphalt
and
planting
trees
is
not
city
mandates.
R
A
Q
Hello
how's
everyone
I'm
also
following
up
with
dr
daniels
and
daniel
I'm,
the
neighbor
that
sits
next
door
to
them.
Also,
this
school
has
and
traffic
has
become
a
problem.
Mr
pell
basically
should
have
followed
the
words
that
he
said
today
this
morning
and
become
a
better
individual.
Just
for
the
simple
reason
he
still
has
not
formally
apologized
for
his
unprofessional,
unethical
and
shameful
behavior.
He
exhibited
against
me
at
the
city
council
meeting
on
april
27
2021
when
he
shooed
me
away
as
if
I
was
insignificant.
Q
Ross
appel
has
divided
charleston
country
club
2..
He
has
pitted
neighbor
against
neighbor.
He
has
made
our
streets
unsafe
and
to
travel
during
the
school
hours
and
also
he
has
made
it
so
difficult
for
anyone
to
become
and
be
a
part
of
a
safe
neighborhood
ross
appel
has
a
secret
agenda
or
a
hidden
agenda
with
friends
with
friends
within
the
neighborhood.
Q
A
And
it
looks
like
we
had
two
people
who
signed
up
online
that
also
appeared
in
person,
so
those
were
all
of
the
speakers
that
we
had.
We
also
received
some
comments
online.
One
person
left
nine
comments,
referencing
the
closure
of
roads
on
frampton
street
and
burning
tree
road.
The
video
link
submitted
showed
three
driveways
bought
for
25
minutes
during
the
carpool
pickup
at
harborview
elementary
school.
A
One
person
left
two
comments,
saying
that
it
was
bad
enough
that
the
roads
were
illegally
inaccessible
and
causing
a
traffic
problem
and
other
nuisances.
One
person
said
that
a
non-existent
hoa
should
not
have
a
vote
or
say
so.
Regarding
illegal
road
closures,
one
person
left
three
comments:
referencing
south
carolina
code,
57-17-80
one
person,
left
three
comments:
referencing
the
city's
ordinance
section,
28
28-21
that
required
permits
for
disturbing
surface
set
or
opening
streets
or
taking
up
sidewalk.
A
One
person
said
he
filed
a
case
with
the
u.s
court
of
appeals
now
docketed
within
the
supreme
court
of
the
u.s
regarding
governing
access
to
the
internet
and
social
media,
that
citizen
of
low
and
moderate
income
families
were
not
able
to
attend
city
council
meetings
by
zoom.
One
person
supports
the
mobile
vendors
ordinance.
One
person
said
his
uber.
Passengers
were
displeased
to
witness
the
display
of
confederate
flags
at
the
battery
and
said
they
could
not
support
a
city
that
allowed
such
an
activity.
Those
were
all
the
comments
that
we
received.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
madam
clark,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
citizens
who
came
out
tonight
and
express
yourselves,
particularly
the
citizens
from
creek
point
neighborhood.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
sharing
with
cat
with
all
of
council
your
your
thoughts
and
feelings
about
the
drainage
project.
I'll
just
tell
you,
our
intentions
are
nothing
but
to
help
our
city
be
protected
from
flooding,
and
I
know
I
heard
you
loud
and
clear:
you've
never
had
flooding
in
your
neighborhood.
We
got
the
30
signed
documents
here.
B
I
got
that,
but
but
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
and
we'll
look
at
what
we've
done
and
what
we
can
do
to
help
ameliorate
the
situation
in
the
future,
but
we
had
nothing
but
the
best
intentions.
We
we
plan
to
to
reinstate
ditches
all
over
our
city,
that
I
forget
how
many
hundreds
of
miles
we
have
of
them
and-
and
you
all
have
them
in
your
neighborhood
too,
or
had
them
or
they
were
designed
that
way.
So
I
I
just
want
to
tell
you
we
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
B
We
had
nothing,
but
we
have
nothing
but
the
best
intentions,
because
we
want
to
protect
our
city
and
our
citizens
and
their
property
from
flooding,
and
that's
that's
where
this
all
came
from,
but
we'll
look
at
it
appreciate
it.
This
I'm
sorry,
it's
not
a
question
and
answer
period.
If
you
want
to
send
us
something
else,
please
send
me
an
email
or
or
call
my
office
tomorrow.
Thank
you.
B
AA
B
Advisory
board
any
comments,
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next,
our
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee,
new
for
approval,
all
new
appointments,
and
these
are
really
dedicated
health
care
professionals
in
our
community.
Any
discussions
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
is
a
resolution
expressing
the
intention
to
establish
a
johns
island
municipal
improvement,
district
authorizing
staff
to
prepare
an
improvement
plan
and
other
matters
related
to.
B
AL
AM
And
less
less
so
of
a
question,
but
I
just
wanted
for
the
sake
of
the
public
and
my
colleagues
on
council,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
really
been
trying
to,
as
as
mr
crowley
mentioned
in
his
comments
during
the
participation
period
and
we've
really
been
trying
to.
We
know
that
people
moving
here
are
putting
strains
on
the
infrastructure.
I
don't
think
that's
lost
on
anyone,
but
with
tight
budgets
and
and
having
to
to
prioritize
projects.
We
really
wanted
to
look
at.
AM
AM
B
Next,
I
really
don't
have
much
of
an
update
for
you
on
covet
19
and
tracy.
Mckee
is
taking
a
well-deserved
day
off
today,
so
she's
not
with
us.
She
did
want
me
to
share
with
you
that
between
vaccinations
and
individuals
who
have
had
covet
and
and
and
hopefully
have
some
immunity
that
we
are
very
close
to
70
percent
immunity
in
70
in
charleston
county.
B
That's
according
to
musc,
that's
not
all
shots,
that's
shots,
plus
natural
immunity,
so
y'all
we're
knocking
on
the
door
of
being
a
member
of
the
herd
here,
and
so
we're
really
making
progress.
You've
seen
our
case
count.
Over
the
last
week,
they've
been
in
single
digits,
a
number
of
days
for
the
whole
county,
which
is
excellent.
I
do
want
to
let
everyone
know
it's
still.
B
If
you
haven't
been
vaccinated,
yet
we
still
highly
recommend
that
everyone
get
vaccinated.
We
still
have
our
partnership
with
musc,
with
a
covid
vaccination
site
at
180
lockwood,
it's
open
six
days
a
week,
there's
no
charge,
you
don't
even
need
an
appointment
anymore.
There's
free
parking
so
come
on
out
and
get
your
vaccination
if
you
hadn't
gotten
one
yet
so
next
we
go
to
council
communications.
B
There
wasn't
anything
on
the
agenda,
but
with
the
tragic
events
in
the
middle
east
and
then
I
I
must
sadly
report
from
the
news
yesterday
of
the
increase
in
incidents
of
anti-semitic
remarks
and
violence
in
this
country.
Over
the
last
10
days,
council
member
pell
asked
that
he
be
recognized
and
make
a
statement
and
maybe
bring
us
back
a
resolution
to
consider
councilmember.
D
D
D
X
X
AN
AN
That
probably
is
not
here,
and
so
what
the
recommendation
would
be
is
to
put
it
on
the
next
agenda
and
that
would
allow
notice
to
the
public
and
an
opportunity
for
people
to
come
out
and
support
it
and
comment
on
it.
As
we
know,
adding
things
to
the
agenda
is
is
a
very
unusual
situation,
and
so
my
recommendation
was
that
he
approached
it
this
way
and-
and
he
agreed
thank.
X
You
and
that's
that's
fine,
mr
mayor.
I
think
that
as
a
council,
we
recognize
this
and
we'll
go
through
the
formal
process
next
june
at
our
meeting
to
do
it
properly
and
make
sure
that
we're
all
given
the
public
opportunity
to
comment
on
it.
But
I
appreciate
councilman
rappel
doing
this
and
bringing
to
our
attention
and
it's
something
we
all
need
to
take
recognition
of.
B
B
J
You,
mr
mayor,
I
had
to
collect
my
thoughts.
I
thought
councilmember
zappell
the
words
he
put
together
so
quickly.
I
hate
to
see
if
you
really
concentrate,
because
that
was
actually
beautiful.
The
words
you
put
together.
So,
although
it's
not
on
the
agenda
today,
I
think
it
will
benefit
our
community.
J
J
Have
part
on
an
update
that
I
think
council
member
seekings
would
penalize
me
if
I
don't
point
out,
there's
a
wonderful
opportunity
that
you
alluded
to
mr
mayor
earlier
about
to
advance
the
project
on
low
battery
instead
of
being
a
five
phase
project,
reducing
it
down
to
I'm
sorry,
four
phase
project,
reducing
it
down
there,
five
reducing
it
down
to
four.
Mr
mr
fountain
just
come
to
the
microphone.
J
We
want
a
cliff
note
version
of
that,
because
if
we
were
to
put
this
in
a
bond,
we
can
take
advantage
of
low
interest
rates,
keep
down
the
inflationary
cost
of
that
repair,
which
is
one
of
the
best
linear
parks
in
america.
And
if
you
haven't
seen
phase
one
and
looked
at
phase
two,
I
invite
you
all
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
it.
So
this
could
be
a
cost-saving
mechanism
that
improves
the
quality
of
life.
For
all
of
us,
mr
fountain.
AO
That
would
require
taking
basically
the
money
that
council
has
been
setting
aside
for
the
last
number
of
years,
from
the
accommodations
and
hospitality,
tax
fees
and
taxes
and
using
that
to
basically
bond
off
of
those
same
revenue
sources
to
be
able
to
advance
the
construction.
Since
it
is
shovel
ready,
it
is
ready
to
go
it.
Is
it's
not
a
typical
situation
where
you're
bonding
for
some
future
project
you're,
actually
bonding
from
a
cash
flow
perspective,
you're
ready
to
spend?
AO
We
have
been
seen
in
the
area
about
a
ten
percent
per
year,
increase
in
construction
costs,
so
with
the
bond
rates
that
we're
seeing
there
is
the
potential
to
actually
reduce
the
overall
cost
of
the
project
instead
of
having
that
extend
out
in
the
future.
In
addition
to
that,
of
course,
it
does
prevent
us
from
basically
having
gaps
in
time
for
the
project
where
you
have
somewhat
of
a
gap-tooth.
Look
of
the
battery
as
you
wait
for
the
funding
to
come
in
to
build
those
additional
phases.
AB
B
U
Members,
if
I
can
just
very
briefly
one
of
the
things
we
did
tonight
at
ways
and
means,
is
we
approved
monies
for
the
design
of
phase
three,
so
are
you
going
to
go
and
make
sure
that
design
of
phase
three
is
extended
a
little
bit
further?
So
if
we
do
go
back
and
bond
this
off,
that
we'll
have
an
extended
project
designed
in
advance.
AO
So
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
things
constantly
we're
wearing
was
alluding
to
in
public
works
utilities.
We
discussed
that
budget
for
phase
three
is
for
the
1800
feet
of
an
extended
phase
three
project,
and
it
also
includes
a
little
bit
of
preliminary
work
for
the
king
street
intersection
parklet,
because
that's
good,
we
assume
that's
going
to
be
a
two-year
design
phase
versus
most
of
the
wall,
which
will
be
very
similar
to
what
we've
seen
from
last
week.
But
yes,
it
does
include
that
anticipation
of
a
longer
phase
and.
U
B
U
You,
mr
mayor,
the
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
yesterday
at
one
o'clock.
We
took
up
a
few
items,
one
of
which
I
just
want
to
take
a
minute
to
tell
you
all
about,
and
that
is
hold
on
a
second
here.
Let
me
get
my
notes,
that
is
the
park,
the
traffic
intensive
traffic
and
transportation
right-of-way,
permit
fees,
discussion
and
one
of
the
things
that
y'all
sitting
here
on
this
council
may
not
realize,
and
it's
been
interesting
to
see
it
as
it
come
together
through
staff.
U
U
In
2019,
the
city
issued
979
street
blocking
permits,
979
okay
punch
line.
How
much
revenue
did
we
get
from
the
979
street?
Blocking
permits
that'd
be
zero.
We
got
nothing,
nothing
we
gave.
We
had
518
dumpster
permits,
which
is
you
know,
dumpsters
generally,
if
they're
downtown
or
where
meters
are
so
we
did
get
a
little
revenue
from
that
about
118
000
against
probably
a
value
of
triple
or
four
times
that
meter
bag
permits.
We
gave
out
499
meter
bag
permits,
but
this
is
great,
representing
2229
parking
spaces.
U
You
all
know
how
many
parking
meters
we
have
in
the
city
of
charleston,
who
knows
that
1702,
plus
or
minus
we
gave
away
229
spaces
and
by
the
way,
it's
hard
to
go
back
and
figure
out
how
many
days
that
represents
that's
just
spaces
and
not
days
the
total
revenue
that
collected
from
that
was
239
thousand
dollars.
I
suspect
if
we
went
back
and
recreated
the
days,
the
spaces
and
all
that
it
would
be
vastly
significantly
greater
than
the
239.
U
We
had
239
construction
park,
239
construction
parking
permits
issued
159
moving
permits
and
we
did
actually
collect
a
few
late
fees,
but
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
we
issued
2
243,
various
and
sundry
permits
to
block
our
streets.
This
is
not
by
the
way,
including
sidewalks,
which
I
see
mr
o'brien.
Here
is
a
whole
separate
conversation
which
we'll
have
before
the
end
of
the
year,
and
our
total
revenue
was
about
379
thousand
dollars.
So,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
city
council,
we
need
to
fix
that,
and
I
think
we
will
mrs
mckee
is
not
here.
U
Tonight
has
really
worked
hard
with
her
staff
of
coming
up
with
a
process.
There
is
some
thought
that
we
are
limited
by
state
statute
and
how
we
can
charge
for
the
use
of
our
streets
and
sidewalks.
They
have
to
be
user
fees
that
are
based
on
some
rational
basis
of
our
cost.
Now
we're
going
to
look
at
that,
I
know.
U
While
these
permits
are
outstanding
and
the
streets
are
closed
in
some
instances
for
years
and
the
mayor
put
up
the
example
of
cumberland
street
during
our
committee
meeting
yesterday,
if
you
all
might
recall
they've
just
finished
a
project
called
the
saint
hotel
on
cumberland
street
cumberland
street
was
effectively
closed
from
east
bay
back
to
was
that
concord
street
back
there
some
days?
It
was
closed.
We
didn't
even
know
about
it.
It
was
an
unpermitted
and
unpaid
for
closure
and
right
various
and
it
was
unsightly.
U
So
they've
come
up
with
a
formula
that
shows
about
what
in
2019,
based
on
those
numbers
that
I
just
told
you,
the
estimated
lost
revenue,
the
estimated
loss
revenue
if
we
base
it
on
time
and
inspection
time
and
without
limiting
ourselves
and
really
coming
up
with
some
fees,
totals
about
4.9
million
dollars
in
lost
revenues.
Now,
for
those
of
you
who
are
the
budgeteers
that
we
are
up
here,
that
all
equates
to
about
four
and
a
half
mils
of
property
taxes,
something
near
and
dear
to
all
of
our
hearts.
U
So
there's
a
real
issue
out
there
and
for
those
of
you
who
want
to
be
using
our
streets
for
free,
I
think
those
days
are
about
to
end.
This
is
regrettably,
but
I
think
appropriately
for
tonight
for
information
purposes.
Only.
I
think
you
now
have
some
information
that
I
hope
will
lead
you
to
the
same
thought
that
our
committee
had,
which
was
to
ask
ms
mckee
and
her
staff
to
come
back
with
us
with
an
ordinance.
U
So
we
can
adopt
some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
be
able
to
charge
fees
to
be
using
our
streets,
footnote
one.
We
also
have
to
look
at
sidewalks,
which
is
a
whole
different
issue
through
the
engineering
department,
and
I
understand
there
are
some
people-
and
I
may
be
one
of
them
that
thinks
that
there
are
some
issues
with
us,
limiting
ourselves
to
time
and
expense
for
issuing
the
permits
and
inspecting
based
on
the
state
statute.
U
But
of
course,
we'll
look
at
that
and
we'll
try
to
make
sure
that
we
reasonably
maximize
the
revenues
that
we
can
collect
for
closing
our
streets
and
that
ultimately,
will
be
to
the
benefit
of
every
single
taxpayer
in
the
city
of
charleston.
So
I
took
more
time
that
I
wanted
to,
but
I
thought
it
was
interesting.
U
I
will
have
this
sent
to
all
of
you,
this
powerpoint
presentation,
so
you
can
see
these
numbers
great
talk
now
that
we're
out
there
in
public
as
you're
out
there
banging
on
doors
or
going
to
cocktail
parties
you
let
people
know
about
this.
I
think
we'll
have
great
support
for
doing
something
to
fix
it
right.
So
that
was
essentially
what
we
talked
about.
Most
of
the
time
yesterday,
we
also
had
from
information
purposes
only
the
parking
dispatch
and
county
911
center
moa,
which
came
through
ways
and
means.
U
Mr
benjamin
gave
an
update.
I
know
that
he's
out
there
virtually.
I
don't
know
if
he
wants
to
add
anything.
The
update
was
nothing
really
major
other
than
one
of
the
things
that
is
on
the
radar
is
the
repaving,
perhaps
of
the
entire
length
of
rutledge
avenue
and
boulevard
in
2023,
for
those
of
you
whose
the
district
transects
and
that's
a
good
number
of
us
might
want
to
put
that
on
your
radar,
because
it
probably
is
an
opportunity
to
reconfigure
rutledge
avenue
before
they
go
lay
down
about
five
miles
of
tarmac.
U
So
with
that,
mr
mayor
and
fellow
council
members,
I
will
see
the
floor.
That
is
my
report.
There
is
no
action
needed
by
this
council
and
I
will
make
sure
that
you
get
this
presentation
with
all
these
numbers.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
any
questions
or
comments
and
thank
you
by
the
way
to
fellow
members
of
the
traffic
and
transportation
committee
who
attentively
listen
to
this
and
enthusiastically
ask
that
we
bring
this
back
to
council
for
some
revenue,
enhancement,
councilmember.
J
And
a
half
to
practice.
Well,
let
me
ask
this:
you
know
we're
going
to
be
getting
together,
mr
man
and
mr
chairman,
for
I
don't
know
whether
it's
many
year
budget
adjustments
we
have
to
get
together
for
this
covert
money.
Is
there
any
way
we
get
together
for
less
term
mid-year
budget
adjustments
that
some
of
this
information
can
be
brought
forward,
and
we
could
that
would
be
part
of
those
potential
adjustments
for
fiscal
year.
21.
B
If
we
pass
the
ordinance
some,
we
probably
need
three
readings.
It
wouldn't
go
in
effect
until
the
latter
part
of
this
year.
That's
okay,
I'm
happy
to
consider
it.
I
know
that
our
cfo
often
doesn't
like
to
count
on
anticipated
revenue.
She
likes
to
have
the
money
in
the
bank,
but
but
we're
I'm
happy
to.
Let's
have
a
discussion,
put
it
in
the
queue.
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
sir
council,
member.
D
D
I
know
this
has
been
a
a
recurring
issue
and
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
the
public
and
for
council
to
hear
that
the
city
has
been
very
active
and
engaged
on
this
issue,
and
it's
not
some
like
a
lot
of
things:
traffic
and
transportation
related,
it's
not
all
up
to
us
and
there's
certain
things
that
are
outside
of
our
hands.
So
if
mr
benjamin
is
available
to
make.
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
They
said
just
call
us
and
we'll
make
it
happen,
but
one
of
the
other
pieces
that
they
wanted
to
stress
in
the
lettering
that
they
offered
was
their
trepidation,
about
placing
stopping
standing
prohibiting
signs
along
streets
that
they
currently
use
for
their
traffic
control
plan.
To
do
that
would
essentially
make
their
pickup
and
drop
off
illegal
and
nullify
their
traffic
control
plan
and
so
per
their
letter.
AP
They
ask
that
we
support
them
in
their
traffic
control
plan
and
their
efforts
that
they're
making
to
work
with
adjacent
neighbors
and
otherwise
on
the
design
of
their
on-campus
vehicle
stacking
space,
as
well
as
their
capacity
to
move
vehicles
throughout.
So
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
we
we
have
been
doing
our
due
diligence
throughout
and
we
have
the
full
support
of
the
school
district
as
well
as
the
state
d.o.t.
D
Just
wanted
to
really
thank
mr
benjamin
he's
been
on
this
from
day
one
as
soon
as
I
first
started
to
receive
some
complaints
about
this
issue
he's
been
non-stop
in
his
diligence
and
advocacy
on
behalf
of
everybody
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
just
want
to
personally
thank
him
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
put
some
of
this
information
out
in
the
public
so
that
we
can
all
be
on
the
same
page.
Thank.
B
X
B
X
Yeah
they
pick
you
out.
Everybody
has
their
own
name
on
here,
so
we
know
we
can't
hijack
our
someone
else's
microphone.
The
committee
on
public
safety
met
friday
afternoon
at
two
o'clock.
I
will
not
mention
to
you
where
I
was
during
this
committee
meeting.
We
had
two
ordinances
that
we
needed
to
address
and
discuss.
The
first
ordinance
was
to
address
this
mobile
food
truck
that
we've
had
different
names
for
this,
these
street
vendors
that
we
were
discussing,
but
the
intent
was
to
address
these
food
trucks
or
mobile
vending
operations
on
king
street.
X
To
address
some
of
the
unrest
that
we've
experienced
over
the
past
several
weeks,
we
made
several
changes
to
the
original
proposed
ordinance
and
you
should
have
received
an
email
that
outlined
the
four
changes.
The
committee
recommended
approval
of
these
four
amendments,
the
very
first
one
as
to
b1d
to
read.
No
mobile
food
vendor
may
operate
outside
the
hours
of
8
a.m,
to
1
30
a.m.
So
we
had
pushed
that
back
to
1
30
a.m
and
the
also
made
that
consistent
change
of
time
in
the
sentence
about
from
1
30
a.m
to
1
o'clock.
X
So
we
had
like
an
amendment
within
an
amendment
alter
the
definition
of
mobile
food
vendor
vehicle
definition
to
include
non-motorized
cars,
because
there
were
some
instances
in
which
they
may
not
have
been
self-propelling
and
amended
section
b1a
to
change
250
feet
to
100
feet
and
remove
the
reference
of
the
word
truck.
So
as
amended.
X
This
ordinance
was
proposed
unanimously
of
chief
reynolds
as
president
supported
in
the
end.
I'm
sorry
so
proposed
unanimously
to
have
this
brought
before
council
and
we
bring
it
to
your
attention
and
chief
reynolds.
If
you
want
to
make
any
comments
about
the
purpose
of
this
ordinance
and
the
impact
it
may
have
on
parts
of
king
street,.
AQ
So
I
can
talk
a
little
later,
maybe
more
about
the
problems
overall
in
general.
But
yes,
I
believe
that
the
the
vendor
ordinance,
as
well
as
just
in
general,
the
goal
being
to
shut
down
king
street
earlier
and
uniformly
so
that
we
don't
have
businesses
open
up
until
three
or
four
in
the
morning
that
are
actually
attracting
people
to
stay
there.
That
really
have
no
business
there
and
we've
experienced
a
lot
of
problems
related
to
that,
and
so
we
really
need
to
work
hard
on
a
whole
variety
of
things.
X
And
just
to
echo
that
this
is
one
of
many
changes
we've
been
addressing
to
on
king
street,
along
with
the
other
things
that
the
mayor
has
instituted
with
the
one-way
traffic
and
parking
along
the
lines.
So,
mr
mayor,
I
would
recommend
to
council
that
we
adopt
this
amended
ordinance
as
amended
as
I
read
into
the
record,
and
that
would
still
move.
B
AR
B
My
understanding
it
does
not
change
any
licensing
requirements
and
contrary
to
comment
made
earlier
folks
can
still
do
business.
They
just
can't
do
it
till
three
or
four
in
the
morning,
they'll
have
to
shut
down
at
1
30
so
that
when
the
bars
and
restaurants
also
have
final
closing
at
two
we're
hopeful
that
that
folks
will
go
on
home
and
that
that
will
be
the
end
of
the
evening
and
then.
AR
AR
How
does
that
address
any
safety
issues,
though
I
mean
sure?
How
would
that?
How
does
that
address
any
safety
issues
are?
Are
we
just
minimizing
the
potential
competition
between
two
vendors?
I
mean
that
I
personally
feel,
like
the
vendors
actually
add
a
benefit
to
king
street.
Many
folks
don't
have
the
ability
to
to
purchase
a
lease
and
open
a
restaurant
so
for
for
safety
reasons
I
get
the
cur.
I
get
the
the
time
difference,
but
having
a
vendor
next
to
another
restaurant,
I
I
don't
quite
understand
how
that
addresses
any
safety
issues.
AR
AA
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
I
called
chief
reynolds
today
and
we
had
a
very
pleasant,
long
conversation
about
what
the
future
of
king
street
looks
like,
and
you
know
I
in
a
lot
of
ways,
I'm
glad
that
we
have
a
plan.
However,
I
didn't
find
out
about
it
until
today
about
a
couple
hours
ago.
What
our
plan
is.
I
had
no
idea
that
we
were
looking
to
reduce
all
of
king
street
back
to
1am
and
I'm
guessing
more
or
less.
This
is
the
first
step
in
that,
in
that
case
of
doing
that.
AA
AA
I
know
that
a
lot
of
you,
probably
don't
patronize
king
street
late
at
night,
and
I
try
not
to
as
much
anymore
either
because
I'm
getting
older,
but
there
is
a
value
added
when
you
walk
out
of
a
a
bar
and
you've
had
a
few
drinks
and
you're
waiting
on
your
public
transportation
or
your
uber,
your
private
transportation.
That
could
be
45
minutes
to
an
hour
right
now,
due
to
the
shortage
of
drivers.
AA
What
are
you
gonna
do?
Are
you
supposed
to
just
plop
down
on
king
street
drunk
and
just
sit
there
for
an
hour,
or
can
you
go
to
a
well-lit
safe
place,
get
some
food
to
sober
up
a
little
bit
and
go
get
home
safely.
If
I
was
a
21
or
22
year
old
girl,
you
know
I
would
want
to
go
to
a
well-lit,
safe
area,
which
is
what
these
vendors
are
and
get
some
food
in
my
stomach
or
get
free
water,
I've
heard
from
several
vendors.
I
call
a
lot
of
them.
AA
AA
I
don't
know
if
y'all
have
seen
some
of
the
alleyways
or
the
walkways,
where
some
of
these
vendors
set
up,
they're
very,
very
poorly,
lit,
very
poorly
lit,
and
they
would
be
very,
very
dangerous.
Alleyways,
where
you
know
illegal
activity
could
go
on.
Somebody
could
pull
a
gun
on
somebody,
so
I
almost
wonder
whether
or
not
we're
being
counterproductive
by
taking
away
these
street
vendors
and
ultimately,
like
I
said
from
the
beginning,
what
kind
of
message
are
we
sending
that
we're
saying:
hey
the
bar,
that's
serving
liquor,
drinks
and
shots.
AA
You
can
stay
open
later
than
the
guy
who's,
making
a
philly
cheesesteak
on
the
street.
That
to
me
is
reactionary,
and
I,
if
we're
going
to
go
in
a
direction
where
we
want
to
change
king
street,
for
this
is
not
an
emergency
ordinance.
This
is
an
ordinance
that
would
be
in
place
for
forever
unless
another
council
decides
to
change
it.
If
we're
going
to
make
wholesale
changes
like
this,
why
are
we
doing
it?
AA
Sort
of
you
bring
it
up
to
a
committee
on
a
friday
and
pass
it
on
a
tuesday
and
move
on
to
the
next?
This
is
a
very,
very,
very
important
issue,
and
I
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
a
meeting
with
some
of
the
business
owners
coming
up
this
week,
I'd
like
to
hear
what
their
feedback
is
before
we
move
forward
with
this.
So
ultimately
it's
a
no
for
me
tonight.
AA
I
agree
that
we
have
to
make
some
wholesale
changes,
because
our
our
everybody
that
visits
this
city
and
every
one
of
our
citizens
should
be
able
to
go
down
to
king
street
and
patronize
it
safely.
We
should
not
have
people
there
all
night
long.
This
is
not
bourbon
street,
but
ultimately
telling
the
food
vendors
to
pack
up
before
the
bars
to
me
is
backwards.
X
Yes,
sir,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
and
then
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
was
well
published
before
today
we
met
on
friday,
so
this
information
was
available
to
everybody
prior
to
friday
as
to
what
we
were
proposing,
we're
not
shutting
down
mobile
vendors,
and
I
think
that
the
misconception
of
this
is
that
we're
shutting
down
or
sending
these
people
on
the
way.
There's
an
inaccurate
description.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
you're
right,
we're
trying
to
change
the
atmosphere
on
on
king
street.
X
The
atmosphere
on
king
street
has
has
changed,
and
I
grew
up
on
king
street
that
I
lived.
My
family
was
born
on
king
street,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
part
of
king
street,
and
I
understand
the
dynamics
of
this
and
what
we
have
down.
There
is
a
toxic
environment,
and
this
and
the
chief
warned
us
about
this
early
on
beginning
of
the
year.
That's
what
was
taking
place
with
with
young
people
and
with
young
and
gangs
being
formed
in
the
area.
X
We
have
a
problem
with
things
that
are
attracting
people
to
stay
downtown,
and
so
we
want
to
change
the
environment
of
king
street.
We
want
it
to
remain
a
wholesome
place
where
folks
come
and
have
a
good
time.
Patronize
the
restaurants
patronize
the
businesses
that
are
down
there,
patronize
the
other
enterprises,
that's
the
whole
idea
behind
us,
but
we're
also
trying
to
come
up
with
a
major
plan
of
addressing
what
has
been
sort
of
the
root
problem
as
to
the
violence
that
we've
experienced
over
the
past
several
weeks.
This
is
one
step
towards
that.
X
This
is
going
to
be
a
first
reading
of
this
ordinance.
It's
not
an
emergency
ordinance.
It's
a
first
reading.
We
can
have
folks
come
back
at
our
june
meeting
to
talk
about
this
offer,
input
and
other
suggestions
on
how
to
address
this,
but
if
we
want
to
make
sure
that
king
street
remains
a
safe
place,
that
is
welcome
to
all
people.
X
This
is
an
opportunity
to
start
addressing
that
particular
point.
It
was
not
long
ago
in
which
a
select
committee
was
formed
before
I
was
on
council
addressing
some
of
these
exact
same
issues
and
some
important
measures
were
taken
and
that
had
an
impact
and
to
avoid
it.
Looking
like
key
west
or
bourbon
street
on
on
new
orleans,
we
don't
want
that.
That's
not
the
environment
that
we
want.
X
Hopefully
this
will
be
a
first
step,
along
with
other
things
that
we
have
taken
up
to
address
this
and-
and
I
just
want
to
reemphasize-
we're
not
shutting
these
vendors
down,
we're
just
making
some
adjustments
to
the
hours
of
operation
and
making
sure
that
we
are
sensitive
to
them
being
able
to
operate.
That's
sort
of
the
some
of
the
reasons
for
the
changes
on
the
100
feet
to
200
feet
that
we
allow
them
to
operate,
that
not
be
restrictive
and
to
continue
some
of
the
practices
that
they're
having.
X
B
Thank
you,
and
I
would
like
to
just
add
at
this
point,
if,
if
I
may,
that
the
one
vendor
we
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
other
vendors
now
that
if
we
give
this
first
reading
tonight,
they'll
be
able
to
come
forward.
The
one
vendor
we
heard
from
tonight
has
four
locations
and,
and
they
get
their
name
from
booze,
booze
pops
and
so
he's
not
a
food
vendor,
and
although
he
might
offer
a
free
drink
of
water
to
someone
he's
selling
a
food
product
that
has
alcohol
in
it.
B
And
unfortunately,
our
state
law
with
the
alcoholic
beverage
commission
does
not
regulate
food
products
that
contain
alcohol.
So,
even
though
the
bars
have
to
close
and
quit
selling
liquor
and
beer
and
wine,
he
can
still
sell
booze
pops
laced
with
alcohol,
and
it's
like
you,
know,
folks,
going
out
to
get
another
drink
after
the
bar
is
closed.
So
respectfully
I
I.
I
think
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
B
It
may
need
some
tweaking,
and
I
do
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
other
food,
vendors
and
and
some
accommodation
might
need
to
be
made
for
them,
both
in
the
distance
and
the
time.
But
what
the
real
purpose
is
to
try
to
avoid
a
continuance
of
a
party
atmosphere
well
past,
when
the
regular
businesses
have
to
close-
and
you
know
our
mama
said
after
midnight.
This
is
after
two
o'clock.
J
We
should
make
those
decisions
based
on
thorough
information
being
applied
to
all
12
of
us,
certainly
the
mayor
being
the
13th
man
by
council.
So
I
would
ask
respectfully
that
we
defer
this
item,
because
we
should
have
I'm
not
fully
informed
to
vote
on
this
one.
Mr
mayor,
the
piece
about
you
know
what
did
you
just
say
this
now,
I
think
again,
mary
there's
something
that
councilman
appel
has
been
saying
for
almost
his
entirety
on
council.
J
Many
of
our
issues
lie
in
our
zoning.
Many
of
our
solutions
lie
in
zoning
and
I
think
this
is
one
too
that
can
find
solutions
of
zoning
is
properly
applied.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
our
entertainment,
if
we
want
to
call
it
the
entertainment
district,
it
has
expanded
beyond
the
capabilities
of
our
zoning
and-
and
I
would
say
that
there
are
places
now
where
there
are
bars
that
used
to
be
paint
and
body
shops,
but
the
paint
and
body
shop
would
close
at
six
or
six
thirty.
J
This
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
we
used
to
have
a
an
adult
bookstore
on
the
corner,
sycamore
and
san
andreas
boulevard,
and
it
provided
literally
havoc
for
the
ashleyville
neighborhood
association,
all
kind
of
illicit
activities
going
on
the
city
aimed
to
change
that
so
much
until
it
went
all
the
way
to
the
supreme
court
and
that
neighborhood
found
success
because
of
the
city,
realizing
that
the
wrong
zoning
was
in
place
at
the
wrong
time.
I
don't
know
that
that
was
ever.
J
It
was
used
to
be
a
grocery
store,
a
red
white
grocery
store
and
a
bookstore
moved
there,
and
the
zoning
was
grandfather,
so
it
took,
I
guess,
the
better
part
of
10
years
to
get
to
the
supreme
court
on
that,
but
you
ride
by
there.
Now
you
never
know
that
that
frankly
house
of
ill
repute
was
ever
there.
J
I
think,
with
a
little
bit
more
study
and
due
diligence
on
all
of
our
behalf,
certainly
input
from
our
chiefs
to
crystallize
the
problem
that
right
now
all
of
us
don't
know
about
some
of
you
do,
but
all
of
us
don't
know
about.
I
include
myself
in
that.
That's
why
I
respectfully
ask
that
we
defer
this
one
right
now,
so
we
don't
have
a
tug
of
war
when
we
come
back
on
this
one
we'll
be
fully
informed
and
hopefully
we'll
vote
collectively
on
a
major
change.
As
you
said
mr
chain.
B
AS
V
Yes,
mr
mayor,
I
understand
everyone
what
my
colleagues
are
saying-
and
I
told
the
chief
and-
and
you,
mr
mayor
and
part
of
a
little
closer
public
service
public
safety
committee-
that
if
we
get
into
a
big
dialogue
with
this,
we
I
would
have
deferred
until
next
until
next
month,
till
next
council
meeting,
so
that
everyone
can
be
informed
of
what's
going
on
and
we're
saying
so.
We
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
these
things
over
and
over
and
over
again.
V
So
at
this
is
the
consensus,
and
I
know
we
have
emotion
on
the
floor
and
consensus.
All
this
move
to
have
both
deferred
both
items
a
and
b
deferred
until
next
month
give
every
all
the
council
members
opportunity
to
contact
the
chief
or
contact
the
mayor.
We
have
to
have
another
meeting
to
even
go
over
all
these
items
that
we
are
talking
about
or
what
we're
planning
on
doing.
V
So
we
can
make
a
fair
judge
decision
and
then
we
would
have
to
go
through
all
the
dialogues
that
we
are
going
through
now,
and
this
could
save
a
whole
lot
of
time
and
don't
put
the
wrong
con
reception
of
what
in
the
community
they're.
Looking
at
us
and
say:
oh,
this
is
what
they're
doing
this
is
what
they're
not
doing
so.
I
think
this
would
be
the
best
way
to
just
defer
it.
I
would
make
the
motion
if
I
can
make
a
commandment
motion
that
be
deferred
both
a
and
b.
C
B
D
Listen,
I'm
I'm
all
about
going
about
this
in
a
deliberate
smart
engaged
manner,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
about
what
happened
three
weekends
ago
on
king
street,
we
had
a
very
serious
dangerous
situation
unfold.
We
had
young
women
stabbed.
We
had
officers
beaten
by
a
crowd
by
a
out
of
control
crowd.
This
is
not
some
hypothetical
thing
that
we're
doing
for
no
reason.
We
avoided
a
very
serious
problem
about
three
weekends
ago.
D
So
if
there
are
some
smart,
creative,
fair,
non-discriminatory
ways
that
we
can
get
to
that
point,
so
we
can
lessen
that
burden
from
our
officers,
who
lord
knows
have
had
a
heck
of
a
year
and
a
half
I'm
all
for
it.
But
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
sort
of
had
the
context
here
about
why
we're
talking
about
these
various
issues,
and
you
know
I've
got
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect
for
our
chief
when
these
issues
are
brought
to
us
and
these
potential
solutions
are
brought
to
the
table.
D
It's
not
coming
from
any
place
other
than
a
genuine
desire
to
come
to
a
resolution
here
and
to
avoid
king
street
from
becoming
a
very
dangerous
and
frankly
scary
place.
You
know
my
wife,
thankfully,
has
allowed
me
to
go
on
a
few
fact-finding
missions.
Late
at
night,
friday
and
saturday
night
on
upper
king
street,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
it
firsthand
myself,
I'm
telling
you
guys
it
it's
wild
out
there
and
we
got
to
get
it
under
control
and
I'm
very
open-minded
to
it.
D
I
agree
we
don't
need
to
be
rushing
into
things.
You
know
we
we
don't
meet
that
much
in
the
summer.
First
reading
doesn't
make
anything
a
law,
it
does
move
the
ball
forward.
We'll
have
a
substantial
amount
of
time
between
now,
and
the
next
meeting
in
june
to
you
know,
have
as
much
outreach
and
coordination
and
thought
process
going,
but
guys
we
may
be.
D
look
at
what
happened
out
on
kiawah
on
the
ocean
course.
I
mean
those
guys
got
crazy
at
the
end
of
that
golf
tournament,
I
mean
society
is
kind
of.
I
think,
coming
into
a
pretty
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
summer
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
so
we
need
to.
We
need
to
be
careful
on
this
because
things
are
things
are
getting
wild
out
there.
That's
all.
I
got
to
say.
U
You,
mr
mayor,
I
agree
on
the
second
part
on
the
curfew
that
we
should
defer
it
and
talk
about
that,
but
on
the
food
vendor
issue,
I'd
like
to
speak
to
that,
mr
mayor,
it
is
a
zoning
ordinance
but
who's
standing
before
us
and
asking
for
that.
It's
the
police
chief
and,
with
all
due
respect
everyone
at
this
table.
I
don't
think
anybody
who
sits
on
this
council
has
spent
more
time
on
king
street
between
ten
and
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
U
In
the
last
two
months
of
me,
I've
been
up
there
just
about
every
night,
and
it
is
mr
mayor.
You
describe
it
as
a
party
atmosphere
that
is
kind.
It's
way
beyond
that.
Do
you
not
agree
with
that?
Chief?
It
is
scary
up
there.
You
would
not
go
up
there
alone.
If
you
did
not
know
the
police
chief
or
other
officers
up
there.
U
It
has
gotten
to
that
point
and
we
need
to
do
something
and
if
you
go
and
ask
the
people
who
are
on
that
team
late
at
night,
what
they
would
wish
for
from
this
council
and
the
top
three
things
they
ask
for.
Is
this
food
vendor
ordinance
because
the
food
vendors
have
been
places
of
congregation
until
all
god
knows
what
time
of
the
day
and
night
and
morning,
and
it
has
created
incredible
issues
and
problems.
We
have
gone
through
a
lot
in
the
last
year.
U
A
lot
and
we've
invested
a
lot
in
trying
to
bring
back
our
economy
on
king
street.
One
of
the
things
we
asked
the
cvb
to
do
was
to
go
out
there
and
take
some
of
the
storefronts
and
dress
them
up
a
little
bit
right.
Well,
if
you
all
have
been
by
bluesteins
lately,
which
is
an
empty
storefront,
what's
going
on,
there
is
a
major
investment
from
the
cvb
with
an
art
installation.
It's
really
cool.
You
know
why
it
hasn't
opened
up.
U
Yet,
although
they've
expended
all
the
money,
the
artist
has
been
there,
you
know
why
it
hasn't
opened
up
yet
because
there's
not
one,
not
two
but
three
bullet
holes
in
the
glass
at
bluestein's
today
today
that
didn't
get
shot
in
history
didn't
get
shot
a
year
ago
got
shot
two
weeks
ago
when
they
were
installing
the
art,
the
detectives
were
there
investigating.
At
the
same
time,
we
have
a
problem
up
there
and
our
police
department
is
asking
us
to
help
them
help
them
control
it
manage
it.
U
This
is
simply
a
management
ordinance
that
we're
putting
first
reading
on
and
if
our
police,
chief
and
our
team
that's
up
there
every
night
who
are
in
harm's
way-
and
I
mean
really
in
harm's
way
up
there-
it's
no
kidding
go
up
there
and
look
at
it.
Don't
go
alone
by
the
way,
go
up
and
look
at
it
and
they're
asking
for
this.
We
have
an
obligation
to
give
it
to
them.
Now,
not
later,
not
later,
this
didn't
come
out
of
nowhere.
It's
one
of
many
things.
U
If
you've
been
up
to
king
street
lately,
we've
got
one-way
traffic
we've
taken
parking
away
between
the
3
and
600
block.
Now
the
206
unblock
it's
getting
calmer.
The
request
for
this
is
part
and
parcel
of
that,
and
by
the
way,
one
of
the
things
that
they
are
instituted
is
once
everything
shuts
down
at
1
30..
You
know
what
the
first
thing
that
shows
up
up
there
is
street
sweepers.
Well,
how
do
you
want
street
sweepers
blast
and
pass
outdoor
food
trucks?
Hello?
U
I
mean
that
makes
no
logical
sense
and
in
terms
of
public
safety,
so
I
would
request
all
of
you
don't
defer
this
one,
give
it
first
reading
and
if
you've
got
questions
about
it,
talk
to
that
man
in
front
of
you
or
any
of
his
deputies,
who
are
up
there
every
single
night.
Last
week
we
had
charleston
police
department,
we
had
the
county,
we
had
sled.
We
had
the
national
guard
on
call
it's
gotten
to
that
point:
it's
not
the
future.
It's
not
time
for
deliberate
and
smart.
It's
time
for
smart
action.
U
Based
on
what
we've
been
asked
to
do,
the
craziness
up.
There
is
not
patient
okay
and
it
is.
It
is
something
that
we
have
to
address.
So
I
agree
we
need
to
study
and
do
due
diligence,
but
we
also
need
to
listen
to
the
team
that
we
employ
to
make
us
safe
and
they're,
telling
us
right
now
we're
not
safe
and
your
eyes
will
tell
that
to
you.
So
let's
take
a
step
forward
and
make
it
safe.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
vote
against
the
deferral
on
the
food
truck
ordinance
or
the
food
vendor
ordinance.
U
B
W
C
W
I
mean,
if
we're
really
just
trying
to
make
things
safer
late
at
night
after
the
after
the
restaurants
and
the
and
the
establishments
are
required
to
close,
then
I
I
don't
really
understand
the
whole
reason
for
making
food
vendors.
You
know
have
to
get
all
this
permission
and
not
be
a
hundred
feet
away.
S
AT
AT
AT
I
spent
we
spent
what
an
hour
and
a
half
yesterday
chief
deputy
chief
walker
council
member
mitchell
and
some
others
going
through
about
the
curfew
and
exactly
how
you
manage
minors
and
the
implications
of
that.
So
to
say
that
you
have
not
been
given
proper
notice
when
things
are
properly
notified
in
accordance
with
foia.
I'm
going
to
call
you
out
on
that.
AT
You
take
the
time
for
the
things
that
matter
and
this
matters
it
obviously
mattered
to
me.
I
we
have
council,
member
mitchell
seeking
shea
and
myself
have
sat
in
umpteen
meetings
over
the
past
couple
weeks
and
spent
hours
and
hours
on
these
things,
because
we
represent
these
areas.
We've
spoken
with
the
business
owners,
it's
not
haphazard
that
these
things
are
coming
forward.
AT
The
conversation
we
had-
and
that
is
what
we
all
need
to
do
more-
is
to
actually
have
conversations
with
each
other
and
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
to
set
up
a
zoom
meeting
or
whatever
needs
to
be
done.
These
these
folks
are
nothing
but
at
our
disposal,
and
and
for
that
I
I'm
just
forever
grateful
at
the
amount
of
time
you
all
spend
with
the
12
of
us
and
our
crazy
questions
and
requests
and
everything
else
and
and
that
curfew
was
something
that
was
so.
AT
It
just
weighed
on
me
all
weekend
and
made
me
almost
unbearable
all
weekend,
and
so
I
I
appreciate
a
deferral
on
that.
I'm,
okay
with
that
the
food
vendor.
I
think
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
that.
If,
if
a
brick
and
mortar
has
to
close
down
at
a
certain
time,
then
that
a
mobile
one
should
too,
they
should
all
have
to
shut
down
at
the
same
time
and
to
councilman
seeking's
point.
AT
What's
the
great
benefit
coming
out
of
all
this,
our
streets
are
getting
cleaned,
which
is
something
that
the
business
owners
and
residents
and
everybody
else
has
been
begging
for
is
for
the
street,
the
entire
area
to
be
cleaner
and
now
we're
getting
that.
I'm
not
going
to
stand
there.
You
know
chewing
my
philly
cheesesteak
or
whatever
and
there's
a
big
street
sweeper
coming
by
and
it
is
dangerous.
AT
I
have
said
to
some
folks:
you
know
what
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
go
down
there
and
see
for
myself
in
these
wee
hours
what's
happening,
and
I
appreciate
I've
been
told
it's
no
place
for
a
lady
to
be
at
that
hour.
Please
stay
home
marie
and
that's
very
that's
very
sweet,
but
you
know
y'all
are
always
looking
out
for
my
best
interest,
and
so
I'm
I'm
okay.
AB
B
B
AS
B
B
C
J
AR
I
know
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
this.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
on
the
record,
as
as
you
know,
chief
is
in
front
of
us
councilman
appel
councilman
seekings
are
absolutely
right.
This
is
what
they're
requesting
we
need
to
act
tonight.
Deferral
is
not
an
option
for
us.
Our
job
is
to
make
decisions.
We
need
to
make
decisions,
not
pun.
We've
got
two
or
three
times
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
sure
the
changes.
AR
My
my
issue
with
the
vendor
ordinance
was
simply
placement
the
timeline
when
they
end
I
get
it.
You
don't
want
to
attract
folks
after
the
bars
close.
I
understand
that,
but
I
do
not
want
to
to
limit
the
ability
for
a
small
vendor
to
operate
a
stand.
These
are
shawarma
folks
selling,
shawarma.
Sandwiches
till
you
know
midnight
one
o'clock.
They
are
doing
no
harm
after
one
o'clock.
I
get
it.
I
understand
completely
as
far
as
the
curfew
for
for
our
youth.
AR
I
do
think
that
that
needs
more
massaging,
but
there
is
no
reason
for
us
to
defer
that
we
can
do
that
on.
Second
third
reading
chief
is
in
front
of
us
asking
for
this.
I
have
been
down
at
king
street
and
ross
is
not
speaking.
Hyperbole
and
and
councilman
gregory
is
not
speaking
hyperbole.
We
have
a
serious
challenge
on
our
hands
and,
as
council
members
deferring,
this
is
just
punting.
AR
J
You
listen,
I
I
take
all
my
council
men
seriously.
I
don't
think
anybody's
making
anything
up
here.
Okay,
but
there
are
those
on
the
public
safety
committee
that
simply
have
more
information
than
many
of
us
who
are
not
on
the
public
safety
committee
and
and
all
due
respect.
Ms,
mr
alchapo,
I
respect
the
fact
that
you
zoomed
in
friday,
all
of
us
can't
zoom
in
on
all
committee
meetings
all
the
time
I
couldn't.
J
P
AQ
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
this
engagement
and,
let
me
just
say
a
few
things
one.
I
view
this
as
a
continuum
and
we've
been
meeting
for
months.
This
is
not
just
hey.
We
got
to
do
this
tonight,
we're
just
a
knee-jerk
reaction.
This
is
an
ongoing
dialogue
with
the
business
community
with
the
public
safety
committee
with
with
residents
with
council
members.
This
is
a
significant
conversation.
It's
not
just
something
that
happened
overnight.
It's
not
going
to
get
fixed
overnight.
AQ
It's
not
something!
That's
unique
to
the
city
of
charleston.
It's
something
that's
occurring
throughout
our
state
throughout
our
region,
throughout
our
country,
there's
a
significant
spike
in
violence,
and
I'm
just
going
to
hit
on
some
specifics
related
to
this
conversation,
there's
varied
problems
and
there's
varied
approaches,
and
we've
already
done
some
things.
Some
of
those
things
have
been
mentioned
with
the
traffic
patterns
with
nuisance,
businesses
franklin
frankly
and
I'll
hit
on
a
few
of
those
things.
AQ
This
is
but
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
it's
not
nobody's
picking
on
any
singular
vendor
tonight.
I
I
want
to
make
that
clear.
I
don't
think
anybody's
trying
to
single
anybody
out.
We're
trying
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
don't
attract
the
wrong
people
to
king
street
and
I'll
name,
some
of
those
people,
young
people,
gangs,
guns,
drugs,
excessive
alcohol
and
retaliation.
AQ
Those
are
all
things
that
are
not
good
for
our
safety
and
those
are
things
that
have
increased
that
are
down
there
at
not
just
1
30
or
2
3
4
5
in
the
morning,
and
why
are
they
down
there?
Because
these
businesses
are
still
open
and
they're
attracting
people
and
they're
drinking
excessively
and
then
they're
saying
hey?
Let's
go
get
some
more
beer,
hey
the
drug
dealers
around
the
corner.
Let's
go
buy
some
dope.
Let's
do
all
these
other
things,
oh
by
the
way.
AQ
Let's
invite
our
other
friends
down
here,
because
a
lot
of
the
other
areas
in
this
region
have
shut
down
their
businesses.
They're
not
open
and
got
those
same.
People
now
have
come
here,
because
we
are
open
till
three
or
four
and
we've
kind
of
encouraged,
some
of
that
behavior
increasing
violent
crime,
I'll
just
name
a
few
things
we
referenced,
the
the
three
people
shot
and
three
stabbed
a
few
weeks
ago.
What
times
did
that
occur?
AQ
2
30
3
30
in
the
morning
mary
street
parking
garage
a
week
before
that
a
17
year
old
female
was
shot
in
the
foot.
I
think
she
might
have
lost
her
leg.
I
lost
her
foot,
I'm
not
sure
about
that,
but
I
think
she
might
have
actually
lost
her
foot
from
that
17
years
old,
increasing
intoxication
after
hours,
increasing
presence
after
hours
with
the
coven.
AQ
We
have
colleges
that
now
have
relocated
to
our
city
because
their
cities
are
closed
and
ours
is
open.
They've
come
here
and
let
me
just
name
some
of
the
main
colleges
amherst
from
massachusetts.
Colgate
from
new
york,
middleburg
from
vermont
kenyon
from
ohio,
duke
from
north
carolina,
wake
forest,
north
carolina,
unc,
chapel
hill
and
others.
They
literally
have
rented
out
houses
and
they're
going
to
their
schools
remotely
taking
their
classes
online
and
coming
here
to
party
and
it's
those
things.
It's
a
combination
of
a
whole
lot
of
different
things
are
adding
to
underage
drinkers.
AQ
We
have
certain
problem
establishments
and
I'll
call
them
out.
I
won't
call
them
out
by
name
tonight,
but
I
will
tell
you
right
now:
the
business
community,
my
officers,
the
mayor
and
others,
including
council
members
seeking
are
tired
of
it.
They
are
nuisance
establishments,
they
are
encouraging
underage
drinking.
They
are
encouraging
gang
members
to
come
to
their
establishments
and,
as
a
direct
result,
they're
adding
to
the
problems
that
we
have
on
king
street
after
closing
time
and
the
direct
outcome
is
some
of
this
violent
and
some
of
these
things
that
have
occurred.
AQ
AQ
AQ
Last
saturday
night
and
I
was
on
the
phone
with
reggie
burgess
early
sunday
morning,
just
was
in
a
meeting
with
him
a
few
hours
ago.
We
were
working
very
closely
together
because
that
could
have
just
as
easily
happened
here.
14
kids
shot
one
14
year
old,
young
lady
killed
gang
signs,
retaliation,
girls,
fighting
each
other
and
everybody
has
a
gun
and
they
don't
hesitate
to
shoot
each
other.
That's
a
problem.
AQ
I
can't
agree
more
with
this
conversation
that
there's
no
easy
solution,
that
this
is
comprehensive,
that
it's
much
bigger
than
a
food
vendor,
but
there
are
some
things
that
we
could
do.
That
will
have
an
impact
and-
and
I
pray
to
god-
maybe
we
can
save
one
life
and
if
we
can
do
that,
it's
all
worth
it.
AQ
I
can't
imagine
reggie
going
to
that
family
and
having
to
to
sit
down
with
that
mother,
and
I
can
promise
you
I'm
tired
of
sitting
here
with
these
mothers
and
and
you'll
never
forget
that
the
sound
of
a
wailing
mother's
voice
as
she
wails
over
her
child,
laying
on
the
concrete
dead
from
a
gunshot
wound,
and
I'm
telling
you
it
happens
too
often.
It
just
happened
last
night
again
in
our
city
and
think
about
that.
I
was
just
talking
to
one
of
our
officers:
who's
an
sro
in
our
schools.
Just
an
hour
ago.
AQ
Well
now
I've
got
to
take
a
test
think
about
the
ptsd
and
the
trauma
related
to
that
think
about
a
13
year
old,
worried
about
taking
their
exam,
but
at
the
same
time
they
can't
sleep
at
night,
because
they're
worried
about
bullets
coming
through
their
windows
yeah.
We
have
big
problems
and
it's
much
more
significant
than
one
street
vendor,
but
we
can
solve
it
one
thing
at
a
time,
and
so
that
was
not
after
midnight
by
the
way.
AQ
AQ
AQ
It
can't
just
be
the
police,
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
fix
all
these
problems,
we're
good
at
making
arrests.
We've
made
arrests
in
almost
every
one
of
these
cases
and
we're
working
with
the
feds
and
we're
working
with
the
state,
solicitor
and
everybody's
working
together,
and
I'm
just
going
to
throw
this
out
since
we're
in
a
public
forum
and
we're
talking
about
this
problem
of
violence.
In
about
a
10-year
period,
I'm
told
we
had
about
five
officer-involved
shootings,
the
first
two
months.
This
year
we
had
three.
I
had
an
officer
shot,
we're
lucky.
AQ
We
didn't
have
a
funeral
for
one
of
our
police
officers.
Yes,
we
have
a
violence
problem
in
our
city
and
what
do
we
get
in
return?
Constitutional?
Carry!
Don't
get
me
started
on
that.
We
need
assistance,
throw
me
a
life
raft.
I
need
one,
don't
throw
me
an
anchor
and
hit
me
over
the
head
with
an
anvil.
It
doesn't
help,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
do
to
address
and
solve
these
problems.
AQ
AQ
That's
been
very
divisive,
it's
been
very
poorly
received
and
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
good
feedback
from
good
people
in
the
community
that
have
said
cheap.
That's
not
the
answer.
It's
not
going
to
help
us,
so
I
don't
know
the
answer.
I
don't
think
that's
it.
I
don't
think
that
was
ever
designed
to
solve
this
problem,
but
I
we
have
a
problem
and
I'm
thankful
for
the
business
community
because
they've
been
highly
engaging.
AQ
I
think
they've
been
sacrificial
and
same
thing
with
all
of
our
communities
to
get
together
and
and
it's
going
to
take
a
commitment,
not
everybody's,
going
to
be
happy,
but
I'll
just
say
this
last
piece
is
king
street
needs
to
shut
down.
It
needs
to
shut
down
earlier
across
the
board
so
that
people
have
an
incentive
at
some
point
to
go
home,
and
so
we
can
clean
the
streets
with
our
street
sweepers
and
I
think
that's
going
to
make
a
huge
difference.
Thank
you,
chief,
mr.
AQ
B
The
fire
marshal
to
make
sure
people
are
complying
with
their
occupancy
livability
and
make
sure
people
pulling
in
the
trash
cans,
zoning
traffic
and
transportation
we're
all
in
on
this
issue
and
keeping
our
city
safe
and
making
king
street
the
entertainment
district
that
it
deserves
to
be,
but
could
I
suggest
that
we
give
first
reading
to
number
a
and
then-
and
we
can
change
it
next
time
with
more
input
and
then,
rather
than
defer
b,
go
ahead
and
withdraw
it?
Take
it
off
the
table,
as
the
chief
has
said,
we've
had
significant
input
here.
B
Today
was
the
event
that
happened
in
north
charleston.
The
other
day
evening
happened
at
10
30
at
night
I
mean,
if
you
have
a
curfew
at
midnight,
it
would
have
no
effect.
So
we
need
to
re
rethink,
bringing
something
like
that,
but
I
think
a
is
a
legitimate
measure
that
we
should
take
and
go
ahead
and
give
it
first
a
reading
tonight
and
then
we
can
modify
it
at
our
next
meeting.
B
J
B
AS
AS
B
B
By
everybody,
second
by
everybody,
so
I'm
going
to
call
the
question
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
guys
have
it
one
day.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
chief
for
your
presentation
and
let's,
let's
get
continue
to
get
some
feedback
and
engagement
from
our
business
community
and
make
those
suggestions,
councilmember
saccharin,
that
we
feel
are
appropriate
to
the
vendor
ordinance
council,
member
mitchell.
V
Let's
just
be
quick
on
the
ordinance
that
we
just
saw,
we
took
out
the
the
curfew
ordinance
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know
when
this
first
came
up.
I
did
it
because
of
a
safety
safety
reason
and
I'm
down
there
all
the
time
too,
because
I
live
on
king
street,
so
I'm
always
down
king
street
up
and
down
kingsfield
on
the
weekend,
thursday,
friday,
saturday
and
sundays.
V
Those
are
days-
and
I
know
things
was
going
on,
but
I
was
hate
seeing
losing
so
many
our
young
people,
a
lot
of
young
people
are
dying
and
my
thing
was
a
safeness
to
try
to
find
some
mechanism
what
we
could
use
to
try
to
save
our
young
people
down
there
on
king
street.
What's
happening,
you
have
these
gangs,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
but
gangs,
I
know
but
gangs
from
living
in
new
york.
V
I've
been
around
a
lot
of
gangs,
you
have
to
crypt
the
bloods
and
all
that
right
here
in
city
of
charleston
now
and
other
gangs,
you
have
the
females,
that's
in
gangs
and
they
will
use
guns
and
everything
else
and
not
afraid
to
use
it.
This
is
what
we
have
down
here.
That's
coming
in
on
king
street,
from
somerville
goose
creek,
all
these
different
counties,
they're
coming
here
in
the
city
of
charleston,
and
that's
what
we're
running
into.
V
I
don't
know
solution
to
it,
but
I
was
trying
to
find
some
way
that
we
could
save
our
young
people
because
we
are
losing
it
just
like
last
night,
most
of
the
council
members
don't
even
know
that
I
was
getting
both
beat
up
by
by
this
audience,
and
anybody
else
here
on
council
until
they
was
going
to
come
by
and
march
up
and
down.
My
house
see
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
you
all,
don't
know
what
I
was
going
through
as
being
an
african-american
and
that's
the
way
it
was
doing
to
me.
V
V
That's
why
it's
very
hard
when
you're,
seeing
these
things
going
on
when
you're,
seeing
a
young
person
laying
out
there
a
mother
screaming
and
hauling,
and
you
going
through
they're
not
coming
back
and
these
kids
are
not
coming
back
last
night
I
mean
I
was
out
last
night
earlier
early
this
morning
I
had
a
shooting
on
johnson
street,
which
is
my
district
young
one
young
man
died,
the
other
young
man
got
shot
twice
in
the
leg.
That's
another
young
man
is
gone.
V
There
was
no
drug
related
at
that
time,
but
you
don't
know
if
this
family
was
saying
a
stem
from
what
happened
in
north
charleston.
So
it's
going
to
be
another
repercussion,
there's
going
to
be
some
more
coming,
they
already
said
it
last
day.
I
was
out
there
till
2
o'clock
this
morning
and
I'm
always
out
there
when
something
has
happened
in
the
district
that
I
represent
as
soon
as
king
street
is
also
a
district
I
represent.
This
is
the
entertainment
district,
so
I'm
out
there
also.
V
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
to
everyone
and
let
them
know
that
we
have
to
do
something.
I
don't
know.
What's
the
answer,
and
I
spoke
to
my
colleagues,
the
councilman
del
chapo,
she
called
me.
I
spoke
to
councilman
griffin.
He
called
me
and
get
the
input
from
me
and
I
was
telling
him
what
I
felt
would
I
feel
that
something
could
be
done.
I
spoke
to
councilman
gregory.
He
gave
me
his
input
on
it
and
I
recognized
what
they
were
saying.
V
I
understood
what
they
were
saying,
but
my
thing
was
always
because
of
a
safety
net.
I
spoke
to
the
chief
on
numerous
occasions.
He
was
calling
me
back
and
forth
back
and
forth,
be
trying
to
get
something
done
and
see
what
we
could
do
for
king
street.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
too,
but
something
have
to
be
done.
Thank.
X
B
AS
B
AJ
B
B
D
AB
B
We
got
a
motion,
though,
to
approve
both
one
and
two
or
we're
going
to
take
one
and
two
them
separately.
Let's
take
them
separately,
since
we
have
a
recusal
so
who's
who
wants
the
second
number
one.
We've
got
a
second
any
questions
or
discussion
on
number
one
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
you
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
so
next
is
number.
B
D
Most
of
the
time
people
don't
ask
me
to
speak.
That's
that's
pretty
amazing
to
speak
about
m2
in
the
parking
issue.
Oh
well,
you
know,
I
I
think
I've
said
a
lot
about
this
over
the
last
several
months,
and
this
has
been
a
great
collaborative
effort.
You
know,
I'm
not
the
only
council
person
pushing
this
councilman
seekings
has
been
tremendous
in
this
councilwoman
del
chapo
as
well.
You
know,
eliminating
minimum
parking
requirements
is,
is
the
way
of
the
future.
This
is
how
we
activate
king
street
and
we
help
turn
over
vacancies.
D
I'm
not
sure
about
the
most
up-to-date
statistics,
but
I
can
tell
you
this
ordinance.
That's
been
in
effect
over
the
last.
Several
months
has
resulted
in
vacancies
on
king
street.
Turning
over,
it's
been
a
success.
I'm
glad
that
we're
making
it
permanent
and
frankly,
I'd
like
to
expand
it
and
I'd
like
to
have
that
conversation
with
everybody.