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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 6/15/21
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 6/15/21
A
C
A
Here
now,
if
you'd
like
to
join
us,
councilman
jackson
will
lead
us
in
an
invocation.
D
Take
away
the
arrogance
and
hatred
which
infect
our
hearts
break
down
the
walls
that
separate
us
unite
us
in
bonds
of
love
and
work
through
our
struggle
and
confusion
to
accomplish
your
purposes
on
earth
that,
in
your
good
time,
all
nations
and
races
may
serve
you
in
harmony
around
your
heavenly
throne
increase,
oh
god,
the
spirit
of
neighborliness
among
us
that
in
peril
we
may
uphold
one
another
in
suffering,
tend
to
one
another
and
in
homelessness,
loneliness
or
exile.
Befriend.
A
Amen,
thank
you
very
much,
and
here
we
are
in
flag
week
the
day
after
flag
day.
Please
join
me
in
our
pledge
of
allegiance
to
the
flag.
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
A
One
nation,
under
god
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
Thank
you
so
much
and
we
have
zoom
guests
with
us
tonight
as
well.
We
are
here
in
person
for
our
second
in
in
person
meeting
since
the
pandemic,
but
we
are
also
on
zoom
how
many
visitors
do
we
have
online?
So
far,
can
you
see?
A
Hopefully
a
number
of
folks
will
be
joining
us
there
as
well.
We
have
a
number
of
proclamations
this
evening.
I
was
tempted
earlier
today
to
add
one
more
to
proclaim
that
today
is
proclamation
day
in
the
city
of
charleston,
given
the
number
that
we
had
but
do
understand.
We
normally
have
three
or
four
per
meeting
and
during
the
summer
months,
we're
only
meeting
once
per
month,
so
we
got
to
get
them
all
in
when
we
do
meet.
So
we
have
six
proclamations.
A
I
do
have
a
couple
announcements
before
we
get
started,
though
with
those-
and
I
guess
we'll
start
on
a
sad
note.
If
I
could
ask
our
director
of
recreation
lori
yarber
to
come
forward
and
share
with
us
that
we've
lost
mario
coach,
mario
drayton,
who
is
long
time,
employee
of
our
recreation
department.
But,
more
importantly,
an
amazing
volunteer.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
So
yesterday
we
got
the
very
sad
news
that
coach,
mario
drayton,
who,
if
you
saw
mario,
you
saw
oscar
fordham.
They
were,
they
were
each
other's
twins
by
about
40
years,
but
he
passed
away.
He
had
been
battling
cancer.
He
died
at
the
va
hospital
and
he
served
in
the
armed
forces
and
then
came
on.
We
finally
had
him
working
as
a
volunteer
for
so
long.
E
We
told
him
to
join
the
payroll
and
start
working,
so
he's
been
with
us
15
years,
just
gotten
his
service
pin
and
we
made
sure
he
got
it
at
the
hospital,
so
very
very
very
excited
to
get
that.
But
we
were
very
saddened
by
that
news,
one
to
share
it
with
city
council.
He
impacted
so
many
children
over
the
years
that
he
coached
with
coach
fordham.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
address
that
absolutely.
A
Thank
you
lauren
and
somewhat
related
to
recreation.
A
A
The
reason
I
bring
it
up
was
because
I
was
felt
blessed
to
get
a
copy
of
a
check
that
we
received
the
other
day
from
mr
john
winthrop
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
add
to
the
renovation
effort
at
the
shaw
center,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
mr
winthrop.
He
couldn't
be
with
us
today
and
I
don't
know
if
he's
online
or
not,
but
next
time
you
see
john
winthrop,
please
thank
him
for
his
generosity.
A
It's
interesting,
of
course,
with
the
name
john
winthrop.
He
is
a
direct
descendant
of
governor
john
winthrop,
the
first
governor
of
the
state
of
massachusetts,
but,
interestingly
john,
is
also
a
distant
remember,
relative
of
robert
gould
shaw
of
the
shaw.
You
know
that
the
shaw
center
was
named
after
so
anyway.
It
struck
his
heart
that
we
needed
a
little
help
and
he
gave
us
twenty
thousand
dollars.
So
we
thank
him
so
next
could
I
ask,
I
know
he
was
gonna.
Join
us
online.
A
A
I
can't
see
well
enough
from
here
is:
is:
is
he
on
oh
great
good
evening
nigel?
Is
he
going
to
be
able
to
speak
to
us
as
well?
Do
you
think
I
think
I
can?
Oh
there.
You
are
oh
great
nigel,
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
I
wanted
to
recognize
nigel,
you
all
know,
he's
retiring
as
the
general
director
of
the
spaletto
festival,
so
I
have
a
proclamation
in
his
honor
and
it
does
cover
a
lot
of
your
early
childhood
and
accomplishments.
A
Nigel
I'm
going
to
skip
over
a
little
bit
of
that
and
get
to
the
point
where
in
modern
history
it
was
in
1986
when
nigel
redden
once
again
teamed
up
with
minati
at
the
spaletto
festival,
usa
and
through
two
extraordinary
terms
of
service
red,
not
only
proved
himself
to
be
an
impressive
fundraiser
and
financial
steward
of
the
festival,
but
a
visionary
leader
and
an
internationally
acclaimed
champion
of
the
arts.
Whereas
having
successfully
steered
the
festival
through
the
recession
of
2008
and
9,
and
the
first
full
program
cancellation
in
2020.
A
Due
to
the
pandemic.
Nigel
redden's
name
has
become
synonymous
with
steady
leadership
and
astute
fiscal
management
and,
if
I
may
add
creativity,
whereas
this
year's
festival
marks
the
35th
and
final
season
under
nigel
redden's
leadership
as
general
director
during
his
impressive
tenure,
redden
has
managed
each
season's
17
straight
days
of
performance
from
wide-ranging
genres.
A
F
Well,
thank
you
very,
very
much
being
a
citizen
of
charleston
means
an
enormous
amount
to
me.
I
thought
that
I
would
never
achieve
this
having
been
born
elsewhere
and
being
somewhat
peripatetic,
but
I've
enjoyed
my
time
in
charleston
immensely.
I
think
the
festival
has
been
one
of
the
real
pleasures
of
my
life
and
I
thank
you
for
your
support
of
the
festival.
F
A
Of
the
stage
so
the
navarros
are
here,
I
see
emma
and
ben
here
with
us.
So
I
have
a
proclamation.
We
are
so
proud
of
emma
navarro
and
her
accomplishments,
whereas
emma
navarro
was
born
in
new
york.
We
won't
hold
that
against
you
and
moved
to
charleston
south
carolina
when
she
was
four.
A
H
H
I
A
It
all
happened
at
a
city
of
charleston
park
right
exactly
all
right,
so
is
lorna
here
for
oh
there
she
is
lorna.
So
we
have
a
proclamation
recognizing
the
caribbean
american
heritage
month
and
charleston
carafest
days.
Lorna
shelton
beck
is
with
us
and
she
might
have
a
few
others.
So
you
all
come
forward
I'll,
make
the
proclamation
and
then
ask
you
lorna
if
you
would
like
to
say
a
few
words,
whereas
during
caribbean
american
heritage
month
we
celebrate
tremendous
contributions
of
caribbean
americans
to
the
fabric
of
our
nation
and
our
city.
A
I
encourage
all
of
our
citizens
to
learn
more
about
the
history
of
caribbean
americans
and
their
remarkable
contributions
to
our
communities,
particularly
to
the
city
of
charleston.
Our
heritage
shall
is
rooted
in
in
the
caribbean
right
here
in
charleston.
There's
no
question
about
it.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
techland
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
june
2021,
it's
caribbean
american
heritage
month
and
june
17th.
The
20th
is
charleston
carafest
days
in
the
city
of
charleston.
A
J
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
all
the
city
council
members,
other
guests
that
are
here.
We
wish
to
extend
our
thanks
for
the
appreciation
shown
and
want
to
say
that
june
2021
is
the
16th
year
of
our
celebration
of
caribbean
american
heritage
month
and
we're
honored,
and
so
appreciative
that
the
nation
has
recognized
caribbean
american
heritage
month
and
the
vast
contribution
of
caribbean
people
to
this
or
adopted
country.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
so
next
up
is
our
proclamation.
Recognizing
world
elder
abuse
awareness
day
and
with
us
is
jamie
roper,
the
mayor's
office
on
aging
coordinator
and
stephanie,
blunt
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
trident
area
agency
on
aging-
and
you
did
note-
I
got
my
purple
shirt
on
today-
was
wear
purple
day
in
honor
of
elder
abuse
awareness
day,
whereas
older
adults
in
the
city
of
charleston
are
valued
members
of
society.
A
A
Older
adults
in
the
city
deserve
to
be
treated
with
respect
and
compassion
in
order
to
enable
them
to
serve
as
leaders,
mentors,
volunteers
and
important
and
active
members
of
our
city.
Preventing
abuse
will
help
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
all
older
adults
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
will
allow
them
to
contin
continue
to
contribute
to
the
vibrancy
of
our
city.
A
We
must
lift
up
our
older
adults
by
advancing
policies
of
inclusion
and
by
combating
abuse
in
every
form
we're
committed
to
protecting
and
empowering
our
older
adults,
so
they
can
continue
to
live
their
lives
freely
and
with
as
much
independence
as
they
desire,
and
I
encourage
all
citizens
to
observe
this
day
by
learning.
The
signs
of
elder
abuse
learn
those
signs,
neglect
and
exploitation,
and
by
raising
awareness
about
this
important
public
health
issue.
A
When
you
learn
all
that,
if
you
see
something
say
something
report
it
to
us
and
jamie
will
come
and
take
a
look
personally
and
investigate
the
situation
as
appropriate.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
teckenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston
proclaimed
tuesday
june
15th.
It
is
world
elder
abuse
awareness
day
in
the
city
and
in
the
world,
jamie,
roper
and
stephanie.
You
all
come
forward.
K
Please
I'm
a
little
vertically
challenged.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
awareness
to
this.
This
is
such
a
travesty
and
it
could
happen
to
anyone.
So
I
ask
everyone
to
keep
your
eyes
and
your
ears
open.
If
you
see
something
say
something
report
it
to
the
police
department,
adult
protective
services
or
feel
free
to
call
my
office
again.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
L
A
Okay,
next
is
our
proclamation
recognizing
national,
collector
car
appreciation
day.
This
was
requested
by
kevin,
sheeley
and
trevor
is
with
us
and
we're.
So
let
me
y'all
come
forward
trevor
and
other
members.
Did
you
all
see
those
classic
cards
out
front
when
you
pulled
up,
I
mean
they're,
really
pretty
amazing.
So,
whereas
beginning
2009
united
states,
congress
declared
national
collector
car
appreciation
day
to
recognize
collection
and
restoration
of
historic
and
classic
cars
as
an
important
part
of
preserving
the
technological
achievements
and
cultural
heritage
of
the
united
states
for
more
than
100
years.
A
The
history
of
the
automobile
has
impacted
economic
progress
and
the
city
of
charleston
recognizes
the
activities
involved
in
the
restoration
and
exhibition
of
classic
automobiles,
whereas
the
collection,
restoration
and
preservation
of
automobiles
is
an
activity
shared
across
generations
and
across
all
segments
of
society
through
thousands
of
car
clubs
and
related
businesses.
Automotive
restoration
provides
well-paying,
high-skilled
jobs
for
citizens
of
the
charleston
community.
A
Automobiles
have
provided
inspiration
for
music
photography,
cinema
fashion
and
other
artistic
pursuits
that
have
become
part
of
popular
culture,
whereas
I
encourage
the
citizens
of
our
community
to
engage
in
the
events
and
commemorations
of
national
collector
car
appreciation
day
that
create
opportunities
for
collector
car
owners
to
educate
young
people
about
the
importance
of
preserving
the
cultural
heritage
of
the
united
states,
including
collection,
restoration
and
preservation
of
collector
cars.
We
do
proclaim
not
today
but
saturday
july.
10
2021
will
be
national,
collector
car
appreciation
day
and
trevor
before
you
make
remarks
councilmember
sheely.
M
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
You
know
he.
The
mayor
was
saying
that
in
2009,
congress
declared
national
collector
car
day
and
certainly
being
in
the
one
of
the
most
historic
cities
in
the
country.
We
should
recognize
that
as
well
and
that's
obviously
what
we're
doing,
but
these
guys
have
done
an
incredible
job
of
restoring
and
preserving
these
classic
vehicles
and
on
july
10th.
M
I
hope
everybody
will
mark
this
on
your
calendar
because
it's
an
event,
you
really
don't
want
to
miss
and
they've
been
doing
it
for
several
years
now,
but
they
start
at
brittlebank
park
and
they
line
these.
These
unbelievable
collector
cars
up
at
brittlebank
park
and
drive
through
the
city
of
charleston.
M
They,
when
they're
coming
down
broad
street,
it's
kind
of
cool
with
with
the
line
of
cars
coming
through,
but
trevor-
and
I
were
talking
earlier
today
and
he's
going
to
try
to
hit
as
much
of
the
city
of
charleston
as
possible
when
he
lays
out
the
track
this
year,
so
that
so
that
our
city
can
see
the
job
that
they've
done
in
these
beautiful
cars.
But
it's
incredible
what
they've
done.
M
M
If
any
city
council
member
would
like
to
ride
along
on
july
10th,
I'm
sure
we
can
arrange
that
for
some
of
you
to
participate-
and
you
know
and
be
in
there,
because
I
I
have
ridden
in
trevor's
car
in
in
the
past
and
it
it's
a
real
unbelievable
experience
in
the
past
they've
stopped
at
magnolia
gardens
they've
actually
made
a
stop
at
citadel
mall
to
kind
of
show
off,
take
a
break
that
kind
of
thing
and
then
continue
on
to
magnolia
gardens
and
it
it's
it's
a
great
event.
M
I
hope
that
you'll
mark
it
on
your
calendar
for
july
10th
and
help
support
them
and
anyone
that
can
help
get
that
word
out.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
share
that
with
as
many
people
as
possible,
and
I
want
to
thank
sergeant
trevor
schieler,
who
was
our
former
sergeant
here
in
the
city
of
charleston,
for
all
the
work
that
he
does
with
with
this
group
and
and
organizing
this.
So
thank
you.
Trevor.
N
Thank
you,
and
just
briefly,
you
know
it's
been
a
lifelong
hobby
for
me
and
a
lifelong
hobby
for
mr
hyde.
Here
I
represent
the
antique
automobile
club
in
charleston
and
he's
with
the
model,
a
store
model,
a
ford,
restorers
club
and
it's
a
multi-generational
thing.
It
gets
grandparents
and,
and
parents
and
kids
all
together.
N
N
A
A
Whereas
national
homeownership
month
provides
the
opportunity
for
communities
to
recognize
the
impact
of
home
ownership
on
our
daily
lives
and
for
millions
of
americans.
Home
ownership
is
a
cornerstone
of
a
life
with
security,
with
dignity
and
with
hope.
A
home
has
more
than
four
walls
and
a
roof
is
a
place
where
we
can
celebrate
triumphs
and
weather
the
trials
of
life,
a
place
where
we
can
watch
our
families
grow
and
prosper.
A
Whereas
the
city
of
charleston's,
mayor
and
city
council
have
prioritized
the
creation
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing
as
critical
to
the
long-term
success
of
this
city
and
the
city's
first-time
home
ownership
initiative,
provides
a
combination
of
newly
constructed
and
rehabilitated
homes
for
sale
to
low
and
moderate
income
families.
Thanks
to
the
initiative,
numerous
residents
throughout
charleston
have
been
provided
the
opportunity
to
purchase
their
first
home.
A
O
Thank
you,
mayor
and
members
of
council
for
recognizing
the
crc,
and
we
appreciate
that
the
city
has
made
affordable
housing
such
a
top
priority.
As
you
all
know,
the
crc
is
a
non-profit
organization
that
was
formed
by
the
city
by
historic
charleston
and
by
the
charleston
housing
authority,
and
we
have
been
a
busy
organization.
O
We
acquired
the
sea
island
apartments
which
allowed
the
units
to
remain
affordable
for
about
160
residents.
We
have
a
project
completed
in
rosemont.
We
have
projects
underway
in
maryville
and
elsewhere
in
west
ashley,
so
so
we're
busy
and
we're
working
hard
to
help
address
this
important
issue.
Thank
you.
A
And
lots
more
on
the
way
I
know
fa
gianna
I'll,
just
add
that
there
are
two
things
that
build
wealth
in
a
family:
one
is
owning
a
home
and
one
is
owning
a
business.
But
if
you
look
at
it
statistically
most
of
the
net
worth
of
americans
lies
in
the
value
of
their
home
and
that's
why
promoting
home
ownership
long
term
is
so
critical
to
elevating
the
net
worth
of
of
americans.
It
truly
is
part
of
the
american.
A
A
All
right
next
up
is
our
public
hearings
and
is
mr
morgan
here
or
either
online
to
present
our
public
hearing
for
us.
Q
P
All
right,
can
you
all
see
rezoning
e1
in
front
of
you
with
my
cursor
on
it?
Okay,
all
right!
This
is
a
1505
green
leaf
street
in
the
upper
peninsula
area
off
meeting
street
road
right
near
that
intersection
of
meeting
street
road
and
greenleaf
street.
It's
a
1.42
acre
site.
It's
a
request
to
rezone
the
septic
property
from
heavy
industrial
to
upper
peninsula
zoning,
and
on
this
map
you
can
see
how
this
property
is
surrounded
nearly
on
three
sides
by
current
upper
peninsula
zoning.
P
It
does
back
up
to
heavier
industrial
uses,
but
up
towards
meeting
street
is
more
of
a
mixed
use
capability.
There
I'll
show
you
some
images
of
the
site
here.
We
have
it's
it's
currently
in
that
job
center
designation
and
the
current
plan,
which
you
know,
is
soon
to
be
updated.
With
our
new
plan
we'll
be
bringing
to
you
next
month,
we
have
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
There
are
some
light
industrial
type
structures
on
the
property
at
present
and
here's
a
little
bit
closer
view
of
those
structures.
A
A
P
Okay,
this
is
a
rezoning
and
an
amendment
to
a
small
amendment
to
a
pub
that
you
all
saw
not
too
long
ago.
It's
tax
map,
four,
six,
zero,
zero,
four,
zero,
four,
zero,
seven,
four:
zero,
seven,
eight,
zero,
eight,
zero,
zero,
eight,
six
and
the
previous
right
of
way
of
upper
st
phillips
street.
P
It's
approximately
1.453
acres
and
it's
rezoning
from
general
business
to
the
shepherd
street
pud,
it's
owned
by
some
folks
who
were
dealing
with
an
heirs
property
issue,
and
so
they
were
not
able
to
be
part
of
the
pud
when
the
pud
was
going
on
around
them
in
the
last
year
year
and
a
half.
But
now
they
would
like
to
join
that
pud
and
the
other
folks
that
are
involved
in
the
pud
are
willing
to
have
them
be
part
of
it.
P
This
addition
to
this
pud
would
allow
for
three
additional
accommodations
use
units
on
84
and
86
shepherd
street
to
be
part
of
this
pud,
so
not
a
huge
change
to
the
overall
character
of
this
pud,
but
which
already
had
several
dozen
accommodations
units,
as
well
as
the
new
office
building
that
is
going
up
on
king
street.
At
present,
between
shepherd
street
and
king
street
offramp
and
I'll
show
you
some
images
here
of
the
property.
P
Again,
it's
in
our
urban
and
urban
core
designation
in
the
current
plan,
so
the
pud
is
in
keeping
with
those
designations.
Here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
site.
Of
course.
Now
there
is
a
new
office
building.
That's
been
built
on
this
grassy
area
here
facing
onto
king
street,
and
here
you
see
again
where
the
new
office
building
is
going
the
subject
properties.
Here,
then
we
will
look
at
the
other
properties
here.
It's
the
ones
on
the
western
end
of
the
property
are
adjacent
to
our
coming
street
drain.
Shaft.
P
That
goes
is
part
of
the
spring
street
and
septum
clark,
parkway
drainage
improvements.
P
Here
are
some
other
images
of
the
buildings
on
shepard
street
and
the
former
st
phillip
right
of
way,
which
has
now
been
dedicated
to
the
owners
on
either
side,
and
here
is
the
pud
land
use
map.
This
would
be
part
of
the
mixed
use
area
here
and
then
there
is
also
accommodations
area
here
towards
the
western
end
of
the
development.
This
was
at
planing
commission
last
month
and
was
recommended
approval
eight
to
zero.
A
P
Okay-
and
this
is
another
small
amendment
to
a
pud
that
was
previously
approved-
this
one
was
a
few
years
ago,
but
this
is
the
marshes
at
cooper,
river,
pud
in
kenoi,
off
of
clements
ferry
road
tax
map
numbers
267,
all
the
zero
zero
zero
four
zero,
zero
five
zero
ten
zero.
Fifty
three
fifty
seven
sixty
nine
and
seventy
one.
It's
approximately
36
acres.
However,
the
only
part
of
this
pud,
that's
being
amended,
is
the
0.15
acre
sliver,
that
is
at
the
very
front
of
the
property
on
clements
ferry
road.
P
It
had
always
been
the
intent
of
the
developers
of
this
pud
to
include
this
property,
but
they
were
not
able
to
acquire
it.
They've
now
been
able
to
do
that
and
they
are
adding
it
to
their
commercial
lot.
That's
at
the
front
of
the
put
it's
not
adding
any
residential
density
here,
it's
just
adding
a
frontage
along
clements,
ferry
road
to
the
commercial
property,
as
had
always
been
intended.
P
It
is
in
our
job
center
and
suburban
edge
recommendation
in
the
current
plan
and
the
pud
is
in
keeping
with
that.
It
is
shown
here.
Construction
had
already
started.
There
are
a
number
of
houses
out
here
now
on
the
in
the
pud
and
the
subject
properties
again
up
here
at
the
front
on
clements
ferry
road
itself,
and
you
see
here
the
very
thin
sliver
of
property.
P
That
is,
you
know
basically
grassy
area
at
the
front
of
the
development
and
here's
that
same
area
from
different
aerial
view,
and
here
it
is
from
the
street
view.
You
can
see
it.
It
is
the
pine
straw
in
it
in
this
image
here
and
here's
the
layout
of
the
pud,
and
you
can
see
the
commercial
designation
here
and
the
small
area
addition
addition
to
the
putt
and
our
planning
commission
reviewed
it
last
month
and
recommended
its
approval.
Seven
to
zero.
A
A
A
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification,
we
have
a
motion
by
councilmember
waring
in
a
second,
I
have
a
few
folks
and
any
discussion
or
further
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
number
four.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
P
And
this
is
an
amendment
to
our
development
codes
in
reference
to
property
or
developments
that
require
trc
approval.
It's
part
of
the
land
development
plan,
review,
guide,
chapter
54
of
the
code
of
city
of
charleston
and
we're
updating
the
list
of
development
project
types
that
require
approval
of
the
trc
and
I'll
show
you
a
few
slides
and
we're
also
going
to
have
eric
schultz
here
who
heads
up
our
trc
operation
here
in
our
planning
department.
P
P
You
see
where
it
has
been
a
follow-through
of
the
consulting
group
and
trc
staff,
made
23
recommendations
for
improving
the
trc,
and
so
staff
has
been
looking
at
this
and
contemplating
how
best
to
undertake
it.
P
Here's
the
process
that
has
been
undergone
in
fall
of
2020,
the
trc
committee
began
conversations
and
analysis
of
the
types
of
buildings
that
should
require
trc
review
and
approval.
In
february
of
this
year,
there
was
a
draft
ordinance
presented
at
the
trc
university,
which
is
made
up
of
applicants,
owners,
developers,
consultants
and
non-profits,
and
after
that,
in
march
and
april
of
this
year,
the
staff
modified
the
draft
ordinance
based
on
that
feedback.
P
And
then
may
19th
of
this
year
was
presented
to
the
planning
commission
and
the
proposed
ordinance,
which
you
all
have
a
copy
of
shows.
P
The
the
the
changes
here
requiring
that
any
trc
review
would
relate
to
any
construction
or
renovation
which
results
in
a
building
or
addition
to
an
existing
building
or
the
footprint
of
the
new
building
is
of
2000
square
feet
or
more
also,
where
there
are
internal
external
to
the
development
site,
specific
changes
or
additions
to
curb
cuts,
sign
access
and
drive
through
lanes
and
any
construction
development
or
redevelopment.
That
requires
a
type
2
or
type
3
construction
activity.
P
And
so
essentially
these
are
the
requirements
of
this
amendment
to
the
ordinance
and
again,
eric
schultz
is
available.
If
you
all
have
any
further
questions
of
detail-
and
this
did
go
before
our
planning
commission
last
month
and
had
approval
eight
to
zero
by
planning
commission.
A
S
D
Thank
you
mayor.
I
intend
to
support
this,
but
I
was
just
curious.
I
know
some
of
our
newer
colleagues
weren't
in
office
when
we
had
the
no
no
novak
study.
I
think
it
was
one
of
the
first
studies
that
they
did
of
the
trc
improvements
that
could
be
made
by
by
being
more
efficient
and
all
of
the
quality
control
things
that
they
recommended.
So
I'm
just
wondering
where
this
list
would
have
fought,
or
this
ordinance
thinking
would
have
fallen
into
that
framework
of
what
they
recommended
to
us.
A
T
Good
evening
mayor,
thank
you
and
members
of
council.
That
is
very
much
the
situation.
You
know
a
lot
of
effort.
I
think
at
the
time
the
members
of
trc
spent
two
full
days
with
novak.
T
We
torn
our
process
apart
inside
and
out,
and
obviously
the
23
recommendations
were
a
result
of
that
effort
and
the
great
work
of
novak
condition.
Number
22
was
to
convene
a
group
or
I
guess
it's
not
22,
exactly
any,
which
way.
21
recommendation
number
21.
T
and
you
know,
as
you
well
know,
development
is,
and
the
trc
committee
is
extremely
busy
in
the
city
of
charleston,
so
it
took,
we
took
a
little
delay,
but
this
past
fall.
We
began
the
conversations
and
we
really
began
to
examine
what
other
processes
in
the
city
capture
permit
or
permit
release
and
approvals,
and
then
what
projects
should
have
further
study
under
trc
and,
as
a
result,
I
believe
the
existing
ordinance
had
six
categories.
We
grew
it
to
10..
T
T
We
like
to
have
an
end
result
in
world-class
developments
from
a
simple
150-foot
sidewalk
project
to
a
multi-million
dollar
multi-family
project,
and
it's
important
that
all
eyes
look
at
a
project
whether
it's
from
the
ada
perspectives,
the
zoning
so
and
so
forth.
So
we
feel
real
confident
with
these
this
amendment.
T
We
thought
real
long
and
hard,
whether
it
would
add
an
extreme
additional
workload
that
we're
already
experiencing,
but
we
again
as
a
team
felt
that
it
was
important
for
these
projects
to
have
prc
review.
So
that's
a
summary
from
my
perspective,
but
I
think
the
city
is
going
to
benefit
overall.
D
No
thank
you.
I
think
that
puts
it
all
in
context
for
those
of
us
who
weren't
here
to
be
part
of
that
explanation
of
the
original
report.
So
thanks,
I
appreciate
it.
U
U
One
submitted
a
plan
in
second
week
of
february,
two
submitted
plans
the
second
week
of
march,
and
they
have
yet
to
receive
initial
comments
back
on
their
plans.
Can
anybody
tell
me
whether
this
amendment
or
what
is
happening
with
the
trc
process,
to
hold
up
plan
approval?
As
a
matter
of
fact,
when
our
affordable
housing
developments
that
we
just
applauded
as
one
of
the
projects
being
held
up
on
getting
a
comment,
so
plans
could
go
forward
to
be
built.
T
Yeah,
thank
you,
council
member
waring
trc.
I
think
we've
got
the
dream
team
in
place
now.
There
have
been
a
few
issues,
issues
in
stormwater
management
with
staffing,
but
I
think
the
mayor
can
agree
and
chime
in
if
he
wishes,
but
that
department
is
almost
at
full
staff
with
the
new
hires
and
they're,
going
to
very
quickly
start
to
examine
how
they
assign
the
different
trc
projects
to
that
new
staff
and
tracy
mcgee
as
well
is
tracking
our
metrics,
and
we
are
striving
every
day
to
improve
that
timeline.
T
Tracy
and
trc
staff
were
involved
in
developing
a
matrix
matrix
on
the
review
time,
and
that
was
based
on
actually
gathering
data
on
individual
reviewers
time
to
review
a
project
whatever
scale
it
may
be
from
a
simple
amenity
center
in
a
subdivision
to
again
a
you
know:
multi
100,
lot
subdivision
and
whether
it's
in
an
spa
or
whether
it's
you
know
not
in
an
area
of
you,
know
known
flooding
and
so
on
so
forth.
So
we
are
really
striving
by
tracking
our
our
review
time.
T
How
long
it's
taken
us
as
individuals
to
review
a
specific
project,
tracy's
tracking,
that
we're
reviewing
that
with
the
mayor
on
a
monthly
basis
and
again
with
I
believe,
with
trc
staff
being
fully
staffed
in
all
areas
of
expertise,
traffic
and
transportation,
stormwater
other
areas?
I
think
you're
going
to
see
great
improvement
in
that
review
time.
So
another
effort
that
we
thought
long
and
hard
about
is
addressing
affordable
housing.
We
knew
we
now
have
new
protocol
in
place
for
afforded
hou,
affordable
housing
projects
not
required
to
have
city
council.
T
You
know
approval,
but
we
develop
basically
an
internal
policy
on
how
we're
developing
and
helping
affordable
housing
projects.
As
we
all
know,
that's
mayor,
teklenberg's
focus
area,
so
we
shared
that
with
him
and
so
we're
moving
forward
in
that
area.
So
things
are
going
to
look
very,
very
good
here
in
the
near
future.
U
U
T
U
A
Q
Okay
and
let's
see.
P
All
right-
and
this
is
a
recent
annexation
at
805-
savage
road
in
west
ashley
tax
map,
309-150053
0.193,
of
an
acre
requesting
zoning
of
diverse
residential
dr-12.
It
was
a
m12
zoning
in
charleston
county
planning,
commission
reviewed
and
recommended
approval
seven
to
zero,
and
here
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
Again,
it's
adjacent
to
some
other
multi-family
and
it
had
a
multi-family
designation
in
the
county
and
planning
commission
recommended
seven
to
zero.
In
favor
of
that.
A
P
This
is
1453
south
edgewater
drive
in
edgewater
park
in
west
ashley
tms34913008,
it's
almost
a
half
acre.
It's
a
request:
zoning
of
sr1.
It
was
r4
in
charleston
county
on
this
image.
You
see
the
r4
that
surrounds
it
in
the
county.
The
other
parcels
we've
brought
into
the
city
in
this
area
have
been
sr1,
so
that
is
in
line
with
those
planning
commission
recommended
7-0
in
favor
of
this
zoning.
A
Terrific,
and
would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter
scene,
none
that
comes
up
for
approval.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
any
questions,
comments
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
We
welcome
the
leolio
family
to
the
city
of
charles
all
right
next
is
our
public
participation
period.
W
A
To
approve
in
a
second
any
changes
deletions
additions,
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
is
our
citizens
participation
period,
I'm
told
we
have
27
folks
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
during
our
30-minute
period,
so
we're
gonna,
ask
y'all
respectively
to
try
to
keep
your
comments
to
a
minute
each.
I
know
that's
not
a
lot
of
time,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
folks
signed
up
and
that's
the
time
that
council
watch
for
this,
so
madame
clark
will
call
maybe
three
or
four
names.
A
We
would
ask
you
all
to
queue
up
so
to
speak
to
the
microphone
and
look
forward
to
your
comments
this
evening.
Q
New
world
order.
Racism
is
dead,
racism
is
dead,
but
the
corrupters
use
racism,
the
black
and
white
argument,
so
they
could
get
their
money,
so
they
could
get
their
homes
and
different
things.
While
the
pool
among
the
african-american
and
the
european
get
left
back
out
without
any
kind
of
representation.
Q
Q
K
Q
X
Yes,
I'm
here
in
reference
to
the
street
vendors
on
king
street
yeah,
I'm
quan
myers.
I
actually
started
the
street
food
business
about
13
years
ago,
and
I
heard
there
were
some
problems
in
the
past
year.
You
know
all
I
wanted
to
share
with
you.
Guys
is
pretty
much
the
impact
that
street
food
what
it
does
for
the
people
of
charleston
and
how
it
really
is
it.
You
know
we
really
impact
a
lot
of
people
when
people
go
out
to
drink
and
eat
and
blow
off
steam.
X
It's
really
important
for
street
vendors
to
be
out
there
to
serve
the
people.
You
know
because
they're
out
for
hours
drinking
enjoying
their
selves-
and
you
know
I
I've
been
here
for
a
long
time-
and
I
started
this
and
I
would
like
to
see
it
to
continue.
I
went
on
to
open
up
a
restaurant.
I
was
not
open
last
year
with
all
the
issues.
X
That's
happened,
but
I
decided
to
come
back
last
week
and
I
was
really
disappointed
with
the
streets
being
one
way
and
it's
just
not
the
city
that
I
left
and
not
the
city
that
blow
on
the
ground
to
learn.
Learn
to
love
the
students
that
I've
impact
over
the
years.
X
Well,
anyway,
you
can
finish
your
thought.
Okay,
thank
you.
You
know.
All
I
really
wanted
to
say
is
nightly.
When
I'm
open
people
would
literally
tell
me,
I
literally
saved
their
lives,
because
when
people
leave
the
bars
they
have
to
eat,
it's
just
a
fact:
you
eat
you
drink
and
then
you
eat
again
so
to
you
know
just
to
penalize
the
people
who
make
a
honest
living
who
try
to
help
people
get
home.
X
Y
Thank
you
councilman
for
your
time.
I'm
also
here
to
represent
the
the
street
vendors
also
with
booze
pops,
and
today
our
jobs
are
at
stake,
and
even
more
than
that,
I
believe
that
booze
pops
is
an
integral
part
of
of
the
community
or
an
extra
set
of
eyes
and
ears
to
make
sure
that
people
are
out
safe.
You
know
we're
there
to
hear
people's
problems
and
we're
also
there
to
enrich
lives.
Y
We're
something
of
an
oddity
here
in
charleston
just
about
everybody
that
I
talk
to
that's
not
from
here
has
never
seen
something
so
so
wild
and
crazy
out
there
and
as
a
as
a
street
vendor
like
booze
pops,
and
it
always
brings
people
back
people
from
out
of
state.
It's
it's
a
wonderful
site
to
behold
and
we
make
people
happy
every
single
day,
seeing
something
so
odd
and
strange
out
there
as
booze
pops.
Y
It's
it's
quite
unique,
so
I
ask
councilman
to
help
save
our
jobs
and
help
us
to
enrich
lives
constantly
and
every
single
day,
and
thank
you
guys
for
your
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Z
Good
evening,
mayor
councilmen
and
women,
thanks
for
having
me
here,
I
was
here
last
month
to
talk
about
the
ditch
digging.
We've
made
some
progress,
we're
still
waiting
on.
What's
finally
gonna
happen,
all
that,
but
tonight
I'm
gonna
advocate
for
myself
and
my
home,
I'm
not
as
good
at
that
or
as
passionate
about
my
own
self,
as
I
am
my
community,
but
I'm
gonna
try.
I've
provided
a
pamphlet
for
you
all,
so
hopefully
you'll
be
able
to
get
it,
and
it
has
data
that
supports
what
I'm
saying
so.
Z
Basically,
two
structural
routes
and
all
of
the
other
routes
on
one
side
of
a
huge
tree-
that's
33
inches
in
diameter
at
its
trunk
were
cut
off.
I
did
request
and
was
given
an
arborist
visit
from
the
city,
and
his
report
is
on
the
back,
but
all
of
the
data-
and
I
screenshotted
it
and
put
it
on
there
and
referenced
it
for
you.
But
all
of
that
data
is
from
academia,
the
international
centers
of
arbor
culture.
Z
It's
not
made
up,
so
there's
a
lot
of
disagreement
there.
I
also
included
one
of
my
neighbors
reached
out
to
me
because
in
2016
her
husband
died
when
a
pine
tree
fell
in
their
house.
It
fell,
it
did
not
snap,
and
now
I
have
one
with
half
of
its
roots
gone.
So
if
you
could
please
take
into
consideration,
I
haven't
really
got
an
answer
on
if
it
will
be
removed
or
not,
but
I
want
this
out
of
my
yard.
R
Mr
mayor
members
of
council,
madam
clerk,
in
the
pre-pandemic
era,
I
addressed
this
body
in
downtown
concerning
the
stamp
out
hate
initiative
tonight.
I
am
here
in
support
of
the
resolution
that
will
be
offered
shortly
by
council,
member
appel
fighting
or
against
the
rise
in
anti-semitic
attacks
in
the
united
states
and
for
peace
and
israel.
R
Time
is
short,
but
I
will
say
to
council
member
appel.
The
hebrew
word
joshua
koa,
congratulations!
Job
well
done.
Rabbi,
michael
davies
of
congregation,
dortikvah
is
on
a
plane,
he'll
be
landing
here
in
a
couple
of
hours.
Ask
me
to
read
his
comments
and
I
would
like
to
do
that
for
the
remainder
of
my
time.
R
R
R
AA
Hi
all
I'm
also
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
resolution
that
councilman
appel
has
put
forward
against
anti-semitism.
I'm
the
director
of
our
local
jewish
community
relations
council
and
I'm
joined
today.
Looking
behind
me
by,
I
think
members,
and
in
the
case
of
rabbi,
revsin
rabbis
of
every
synagogue
in
charleston,
our
charleston
jewish
community
is
proud
of
our
history
as
charlestonians
dating
back
to
before
the
revolutionary
war.
AA
We
are
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done
with
you
all
combating
hate
in
the
past,
and
we
are
proud
that,
in
response
to
the
dramatic
rise
in
anti-semitic
incidents
across
the
country
that
our
city
council,
our
mayor,
our
councilman
appel
in
particular,
has
put
forward
this
resolution
condemning
anti-semitism
and
calling
for
peace
in
the
middle
east.
AA
We
just
are
here
to
encourage
this
passage
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions,
as
it
relates
to
anti-semitism
in
particular.
But
thank
you
all.
B
W
AB
Thank
you.
I
too
became
a
grandfather
this
week
and
I
have
one
minute
here
to
save
his
business.
So
has
the
minute
started.
Please
plea.
Please
proceed.
Yes,
sir,
we
have
I've
known
our
booze
pops,
as
everybody
knows,
and
we
got
30
jobs
on
the
table
right
now
with
the
food
vendors
that
everybody's
going
to
lose
their
job.
If
we
pass
this
100
foot,
if
we
pass
this
ordinance
requiring
a
special
event
permit
to
set
up
on
private
property,
that's
gonna
hinder
everybody's
jobs.
AB
We've
had
five
years,
we've
been
open
july.
Fourth
will
be
five
years.
We
at
that
point.
We
we've
had
no
violence,
no
violent
problems
whatsoever,
we're
the
ones
helping
people
get
home
every
weekend
every
weekend,
every
one
of
these
guys
behind
me.
They
help
people
get
home
every
weekend
we
have
ice
cream
available.
AB
We
have
over
30
plus
jobs,
and
I
know
at
the
last
meeting
the
100
foot
was
mentioned
about
competition,
which
this
is
about
safety.
I
don't
know
if
it
would
make
everybody
feel
better
if
we
put
the
boost
pop
truck
in
the
building,
but
I
don't
see
that
as
a
viable
option.
We're
here
to
work
with
the
city
we've
emailed
all
12
council
members,
we've
had
four
responses
and
a
hundred
foot
radius
is
one
third
of
a
football
field.
Radius.
That
means
nowhere
in
charleston.
Can
you
go
the
1a?
AB
The
1am
ordinance
is
not
fair
and
it's
targeting
vendors.
I
think
that
it
should
be
across
the
board.
Maybe
we
put
that
in
the
ordinance
that
we
shut
down
the
same
time
as
everybody
else.
Please
wrap
up.
Yes,
sir,
and
I
believe
this
is
a
direct
attack
on
the
food
vendors.
It's
going
to
shut
up
all
of
us
down.
Now,
that's
the
100
foot
and
the
special
event
requirement
be
removed,
and
I
ask
that
we
set
the
time
the
same
across
the
table.
AC
Hey,
how
are
y'all
doing
great,
so
my
name
is
james.
I've
worked
for
woody
for
eight
months
now.
I
really
would
not
like
to
find
out
tonight
that
I
don't
have
a
job
tomorrow.
I
know
there's
30,
plus
people
like
what
you
said,
who
are
feeling
the
same
way
tonight,
plus
everyone
else
who
works
in
a
food
truck
in
charleston
who
could
potentially
be
out
of
a
job
tomorrow,
because
the
decision
you
make
here
tonight.
AC
I
think
that
it
is
pretty
transparent
that
this
isn't
about
safety,
because
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
the
food
vendors
provide
an
extra
set
of
eyes.
They
provide
a
sober
person
with
a
cell
phone
who
can
actually
help
people
get
home.
Everyone
who
works
for
booze
pops
is
constantly
helping
people
get
home,
whether
it's
calling
them
an
uber
or
getting
them
a
water.
Or
what
have
you?
So?
I
think
this
ordinance
is
sort
of
ridiculous.
AC
AD
Yeah,
I
also
work
for
boost
pops
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
how
this
100
foot
radius
would
end
our
job
or
whatnot,
and
I
really
wouldn't
want
to
have
a
decision
like
that
made
today
to
have
my
job
taken
away
by
tomorrow,
because
the
the
service
that
we
do
provide
is,
I
say,
lighted
up
spot
out
on
king
street
and
over
there
by
the
horse.
Buggies.
AD
I
can't
remember
the
name,
I'm
sorry,
but
we
do
provide
a
bottle
of
water
for
overly
intoxicated
people
that
just
got
out
of
the
bar
that
need
to
call
it
uber
or
just
need
help
walking.
Well,
I
wouldn't
say
walking,
but
I
just
need
a
spot
to
wait
for
the
uber
uber
ride
to
arrive
at,
and
we
also
provide
ice
creams
and
bottled
waters.
AD
People
of
charleston
and
what
is
it
I'm
sorry:
the
visitors
like
the
tourists
yeah,
that's
the
word,
I'm
sorry
but
yeah.
That's
all
I'm
sorry.
Thank.
A
AE
Hello,
I'm
thomas
groom
on
behalf
of
the
street
vendors
as
well.
I'm
just
going
to
add
on
to
what
my
associate
russell
said.
So
we're
out
here
really
trying
to
save
our
jobs.
AE
It's
a
job
where
we
are
helping
drunk
people
get
home
with
water
but
at
the
same
time
we're
helping
thirsty
people
walking
down
the
road,
giving
them
free
bottled
water,
we're
bringing
tourists
into
town,
and
I've
heard
several
times
that
it
was
the
most
interesting
they've
seen
all
day
and
that
they
would
love
to
come
back
and
try
us
out
again
so
just
in
in
regard
to
it
being
about
a
safety
thing.
I
can't
much
see
how
it
relates.
AE
We
are
a
safe
space
for
people,
not
necessarily
even
just
going
home,
but
those
who
are
downtown
and
might
not
have
a
ride
home
or
the
uber
money
to
get
home.
Sometimes
we
may
spot
them
or
sometimes
we
can
at
least
provide
a
safe
space
in
the
light,
not
in
some.
You
know
on
on
a
road
one
person
by
themselves,
not
feeling
safe.
That's
that's
that's
a
big
deal.
You
know
when
it's
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
you're.
H
AF
AE
W
Hello,
my
name
is
nicole
taventer
blair
and
I
am
associated
with
blues
pops
like
the
rest
of
my
coworkers
as
well.
I
do
believe
that
what
we
can
do
is
we
provide
a
safe
place
for
people
on
the
streets
that
need
you
know.
That's
that
light.
What
we
can
do
is
we
provide
like
they
said
before
water
is,
you
know
a
safe
place
to
wait
for
your
ubers
things
like
that.
We
just
want
to
be
there
for
the
community
and
to
support
everything
else.
W
I'm
pretty
sure
everybody
that
is
affiliated
with
my
company
as
well
would
also
love
to
work
with
you
guys
and
to
come
to
a
solid
agreement
on
how
we
can
work
together
to
solve
the
issue.
Thank
you.
AG
Hi,
yes,
my
name
is
dennis
bronner,
I'm
also
here
on
behalf
of
the
food
vendors.
Mr
mayor,
I
believe
your
distracted
time
could
be
yielded
me
two
minutes,
sir.
Yes,
sir
alrighty,
yes,
one
minute
well
one
thing
I
would
like
to
just
be
aware
of.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
recognizing
national
homeowners
month.
Yes,
I
am
myself
a
homeowner
after
a
very
grueling
process,
because
five
years
ago
I
was
homeless.
AG
I
was
at
a
very
struggling
point
in
my
life
and
an
opportunity
arose
to
work
with
a
mr
woodrow
norris.
In
the
back
there.
After
four
years
of
long
service,
I
was
able
to
buy
a
house,
and
I
have
now
been
a
homeowner
for
exactly
one
year
on
june
30th
this
year.
So
I
do
want
to
say
that,
with
this
ordinance
being
passed,
you
will
be
taking
away
what
could
possibly
be
my
mortgage
and
putting
me
back
into
a
struggling
position
through
the
pandemic.
AG
B
L
Hello,
my
name
is
alex
herron,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
vendors
I'm
just
here
to
save
my
job.
I've
been
working
for
them
for
about
a
year
now,
and
I
love
it.
I
help
every
people
about
every
day,
get
them
to
where
they're
trying
to
go,
trying
to
make
sure
they're,
nice
and
safe,
because
I've
seen
all
sorts
of
stuff
out
there.
L
People
are
scared,
they
don't
know
where
they're
going.
I
help
them
out
with
the
free
water.
Tell
them
just
chill
here
for
a
minute
and
they
know
exactly
what's
going
on
after
a
little
bit
of
being
there.
I
help
people
every
day,
but
now
this
job
has
helped
me
myself
got
my
own
apartment.
Now,
I'm
finally
making
rent
on
that
one
of
my
living
on,
because
the
pandemic
put
me
out
during
college
because
they
shut
down
the
college.
I
was
living
out
the
dorms
and
I
finally
was
able
to
get
help
from
booze
boss.
L
AH
My
name
is
lewis
weatherford,
I'm
on
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
vendors
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
that
if
this
ordinance
goes
through
me
and
my
girlfriend
behind
me,
we
both
work
for
booze
pops,
we're
both
going
to
lose
our
jobs
and
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ability
to
continue
and
pay
our
bills,
and
you
know
I'd
hate
to
make
it
through
the
whole
pandemic
with
the
job.
And
then
you
know
this
ordinance
be
the
one
to
put
me
out
and
that's
all.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
savannah
roach.
I
also
work
for
biz
pops.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
biz
pops
has
really
given
me
an
opportunity.
I
make
a
decent
amount
of
money.
I
help
a
lot
of
people
on
the
streets
whenever
someone
needs
water,
we
hand
out
water,
it's
free
and
even
the
kids,
the
kids
love
it.
It's
not
all
about
alcohol.
It's
about.
You
know
the
kids
love
the
ice
cream,
so
we
hand
out
the
ice
cream
to
them.
C
A
A
AI
My
name
is
rolanda
viomi,
I'm
actually
here,
representing
my
whole
entire
extended
family
in
the
food
vending
business.
We
have
four
carts
currently
downtown.
We
serve
gyro
and
mediterranean
style
foods.
What
I'd
like
to
say
is:
is
that
not
only
are
we
just
a
food
vendor?
We
are
part
of
the
community.
AI
AI
We
have
five
children
who
are
currently
sitting
out
in
the
playground,
because
that's
the
place
for
them
and
not
here,
but
we
did
bring
them
by
cutting
this
a
short
of
an
hour.
You
are
putting
a
detriment
into
their
future.
This
business
is
their
future.
They
are
our
future.
Woody
has
two
children
and
we
have
three.
One
of
them
is
my
own.
AI
If
we
proceed
with
this
ordinance,
we
lose
the
fighting
chance
to
give
them
the
future
that
they
deserve
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
which
was
extremely
difficult
for
all
of
us.
We
now
are
open.
We
are
open
full
and
now
we're
getting
this
ordinance
thrown
our
way.
I
feel
as
though
it
is
a
direct
attack
on
us
to
shut
us
down,
and
this
is
our
livelihood
and
it's
un-american
for
somebody
to
tell
us
that
we
cannot
proceed
to
make
money
and
to
support
ourselves
and
to
support
our
community.
AJ
Jeremy
good
evening,
mary
willis,
here
I
am
a
lawyer
with
the
ethbridge
law
group.
I
am
here
tonight
representing
booze
pops.
I
was
here
at
the
last
meeting
and
since
the
last
meeting
I've
seen
that
the
ordinance
has
again
been
amended
just
to
be
clear
for
what
we
are
asking
you
to
do
here
tonight.
We
are
asking
you
to
remove
the
proximity
requirement
entirely
and
we
are
agreeable
to
closing
at
the
same
time
as
bars
and
restaurants.
AJ
AJ
You
will
hear
from
a
representative
with
the
institute
of
justice
tonight
who
I
have
been
working
with
closely
with
regard
to
this
ordinance.
That
is
a
non-profit
group
out
of
virginia
that
litigates.
These
very
issues
when
there
are
ordinances
that
are
directly
infringing
on
the
american
dream,
economic
liberties.
So
we
would
ask
you
tonight
to
get
rid
of
the
proximity
requirement
and
to
change
the
ordinance
from
1am
to
1.
30
am
when
the
bars
and
restaurant
closes.
Thank
you
thank.
A
AK
Hi,
my
name
is
joe
clark,
I'm
here
about
the
vendors
and
their
the
ordinances
and
that
you
guys
are
talking
about.
Can
I
get
a
show
of
hands
from
everybody
in
the
room
back
here
that
you've
heard
all
the
arguments?
You've
heard
all
the
statements?
How
many
of
you
think
food
trucks
are
good.
AK
The
joe
clark-
yes,
I
am
the
joe
clark,
my
my
wife
and
I
rosie,
and
I
we
have
a
forte
jazz
lounge.
It's
right
there
on
477
king
street,
I'm
just
adding
my
voice
to
this
large
chorus
back
here
as
a
neighbor,
and
I'm
saying
these
guys
are
good
folks
and
it's
good
to
have
a
extra
pair
of
sober
eyes
out
there.
I
mean
I
can't
imagine
a
better
help.
If
there's
some
trouble,
a
police
officer
needs
someone
to
state.
What's
going
on.
These
guys
will
help
you
if
they're
not
there.
AK
You
know
where
are
you
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
like,
I
said,
add
my
voice
mike
and
rolanda
are
great
people
they're
they're,
hard
workers.
I
see
them
one
morning.
AK
I
was
there
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
doing
something
for
my
business
and
I
heard
some
sounds
outside.
I
didn't
know
what
it
was
it
was.
It
was
him
cleaning
the
sidewalk
okay
to
make
that
space
clean,
as
you
guys
would
like,
so
they
work
hard,
they're
good
people,
please
don't
take
their
jobs
away.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
AL
Good
afternoon
mayor,
my
name
is
tony
daniel,
hey
russ,
I'm
here
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
father
and
myself,
so
I'm
gonna
read
my
father's
word.
First,
the
idea
that
the
barricade
in
country
club
number
two
stopped
any
traffic
is
ridiculous.
All
they
have
to
do
now
is
enter
frampton
street,
go
one
block
and
they're
right
where
they
were.
It
is
a
difference
of
one-tenth
of
a
mile.
They
didn't
stop
any
traffic
at
all,
and
very
people
complaining
about
the
traffic
use
that
same
thoroughfare.
AL
They
travel
from
fairway
drive
around
the
corner,
where
the
original
entrance
was
to
harvey
road,
one
tenth
of
a
mile
further
on
burning
tree
road
and
exit
out
of
frampton.
So
it
is
a
ridiculous
excuse
that
the
barricades
have
to
stay
because
they
don't
want
cut
through
traffic
traffic
can
cut
through
any
time
they
want.
I'm
asking
all
of
y'all
to
help
me
out.
I've
got
traffic
non-stop
in
front
of
my
house.
I
have
the
entire
neighborhood
driving
through
on
a
ridiculous
argument
that
is
a
complete
boulder
dash.
AL
AM
AL
B
AN
Yes,
hello,
folks,
a
show
of
hands,
please
how
many
of
you
think
that
white
point
garden
is
a
great
place
for
locals
and
tourists
of
all
ages
to
visit.
AN
In
case
you
weren't
aware
the
city
of
charleston
continues
to
choose
to
issue
permits
to
the
same
group
of
white
supremacists,
who
pollute
white
point
garden
nearly
every
sunday
morning
with
their
flags
of
church
bombers,
segregationists
and
lynchers.
Even
though
a
member
of
this
same
group
attacked
a
young
man
by
breaking
a
flag
pole
over
his
back.
AN
Just
a
few
highlights
from
the
battery
over
the
last
few
weeks,
the
same
guy
who
broke
a
flagpole
over
the
young
man's
back,
came
back
to
the
battery
and
stood
with
his
flagpole
again,
a
member
of
the
group
of
white
supremacists
decided
to
shout
the
n-word
one
of
the
white
supremacists
started,
arguing
with
and
bumping
his
chest
into
a
much
older
taurus
and
on
multiple
occasions
over
the
last
several
weekends
police
removed
black
tourists
who
dared
to
try
to
look
at
the
statue.
While
the
white
supremacists
stood
there
with
their
flags
instead
of
food
trucks.
AN
How
about
a
hundred
foot
restriction
on
flags
in
public
right-of-ways
to
keep
people
safe
and
one
last
question:
is
there
anyone
among
you
who
can
admit
that
an
assemblage
of
men
waving
the
flag
of
segregationist,
church
bombers,
lynchers
and
dylann
roof
in
a
park
is
threatening?
One
last
comment:
harry
next
time,
just
call
an
uber
just
a
tiny
little
minute,
but
eternity
is
in
it.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AL
AE
AL
Personality
all
right,
so
if
the
roads
are
open,
there
are
two
rules
that
come
in
two
specific
laws
that
say
one.
If
you
have
a
city
of
more
than
a
thousand
inhabitants,
you
have
to
keep
the
roads
clear
and
then,
if
you,
if
you
fail
to
keep
the
roads
clear,
the
governing
bodies
are
subject
to
a
misdemeanor
that
is
yaw.
The
roads
are
not
clear:
they
have
trees
growing
in
them.
I
have
asked
for
a
definition
between
a
barricaded
road
and
a
closed
road.
AL
I
gave
a
definition
of
a
closed
road
that
says
growth
of
vegetation
in
the
middle
road.
That's
what
we've
got.
This
also
gives
the
law
to
touch
an
open
road.
I
have
a
fence
that
somebody
built
from
the
road
into
their
backyard.
It
doesn't
take
a
lot
to
figure
out
who
it
is
and
once
again,
the
idea
that
you
can't
cut
through
is
ridiculous.
It
is
one
tenth
of
a
mile.
It
was
seven
tenths
of
a
mile
on
the
original
way
to
make
their
way
through.
AL
AF
AO
B
Actually,
I'm
going
to
time
myself,
and
it
just
says
over
the
last
few
weeks
of
may,
the
anti-defamation
league
documented
a
115
increase
in
anti-semitic
incidents
around
the
united
states
over
the
same
time
period
in
2020
with
anti-semitic
hate
incidents.
Doubling
in
just
a
few
weeks.
Our
jewish
community
is
understandably
anxious
with
the
charleston
jewish
federation
is
providing
our
jewish
community
with
resources
to
create
a
security
infrastructure.
B
B
We
are
proud
to
live,
work
and
worship
in
the
city
of
charleston,
where
our
mayor
and
city
council
members
have
taken
the
lead
in
outlawing
hate
crime
and
continue
to
demonstrate
their
commitment
to
standing
up
against
hate,
and
then
we
also
received
some
comments.
Online
one
person
left
seven
comments:
referencing
south
carolina
code,
57-17-80
2013.,
one
person,
so
the
definition
of
a
barricade
was
a
defensive
barrier
hastily
constructed
as
in
a
street
to
stop
an
enemy.
B
One
person
left
two
comments.
That
said,
it
was
illegal
to
close
a
road
without
city
council
approval
or
court
order,
and
soliciting
48
letters
from
38
families
did
not
determine
the
closure
or
reopening
of
a
road.
Two
people
said
the
definition
of
a
closed
road
was
something
that
was
lawfully
closed
to
public
access
by
barriers.
B
One
person
left
two
comments
that
referenced
ordinance,
section
2821
that
required
permits
for
disturbing
surface
of
or
opening
streets
or
taking
up
sidewalks.
One
person
left
two
comments
that
said
persons
who
travel
to
folly
road
from
harborview
road
through
cc
number
two
have
to
drive
one
tenth
of
a
mile
further
than
they
did
in
1976.
B
AO
Good
evening
my
name
is
melanie
bennett.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
I
work
at
the
institute
for
justice.
Mary
mentioned
we're
a
nationwide
public
interest,
civil
liberties
law,
firm,
headquartered
in
arlington
virginia,
and
we
advocate
for
constitutional
rights
of
all
americans
to
earn
an
honest
living.
We
heard
about
the
issue
with
mobile
vending
and
read
the
ordinance,
and
we
want
to
bring
up
three
issues
that
we
found.
One
is
the
proximity
restriction.
AO
I
would
first
like
to
mention
that
ij
litigated
in
2018,
in
a
neighboring
area
in
north
carolina
and
carolina
beach,
the
lawsuit
was
the
the
government
capitulated
very
quickly
after
a
week,
realizing
that
anti-competition
is
not
something
that
north
carolina
wanted
and
we
just
recently
argued
in
the
south
carolina
supreme
court
about
the
constitutionality
of
state
civil
forfeiture
statute.
AO
AO
Absolutely
just
as
other
food
vendors
can
be
next
to
each
other.
These
vendors
should
not
be
able
to
vent
wherever
private
property
should
be
honored,
and
there
should
not
be
a
specific
special
event
requirement
so
long
as
they
honor
the
the
safety
requirements
within
the
ordinances
and
they
should
be
respected
as
restaurants
and
bars
are
with
the
time.
But
lastly,
I
just
want
to
say
food
trucks
are
safe.
We
have
all
of
the
research.
AO
I
recently
sent
you
an
email
earlier
today,
where
I
j
has
done
over
20
years
of
work
in
this
issue
area,
and
we
are
more
than
happy
to
answer
questions
regarding
the
safety
of
food
trucks
and
how
they
contribute
to
the
economy.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
we
hope
you
work
with
the
vendors
in
your
area.
A
We
leave
anybody
out
well,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
This
evening
I
was
expecting.
Maybe
this
gentleman
had
signed
up
to
say
a
word.
I
do
want
to
recognize
rabbi
yoshi
yossi
refsen,
thank
you
for
your
partnership
with
the
city
every
year
in
recognizing
hanukkah
and
being
a
member
of
our
clergy
council
and
we're
always
honored
to
have
you
with
us.
Thank
you,
rabbi,
yeah,
all
right.
So
next
up
is
our
petitions
and
communications.
A
Marvel
who
one
d
will
carve
out
one
b:
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
on
zoning,
all
the
others,
any
other
questions
or
comments
on
any
of
the
others,
a
c
d
or
e.
AQ
AR
A
Okay,
council
remember
dale
shop,
wondering
if.
A
Do
a
b
and
c
individually:
well,
let's
do
them
all
individually.
I
think
it'll
be
easier
to
keep
track
of
that
way.
Okay,
first
up
design
review
board
any
comments
or
questions
I'll
move
for
approval.
Second,
all
right:
council,
member
dale,
chapo.
AR
I'll
just
speak
this
once
because
it
it's
what
I
have
to
say
speaks
to
all
of
them,
a
through
e
having
more
direct
experience
with
a
b
and
c.
I
think
one
of
my
biggest
concerns
is
that
I
did
not
receive
and
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
in
communicating
with
some
other
council
members,
they
did
not
receive
a
list
of
all
who
applied
for
these
positions
and
their
resumes,
and
so
I
I
think
we
should
be
provided
that
information
before
agreeing
to
put
them
on
these
boards.
AR
You
know
I
can
cite
specific
examples
throughout
my
district,
where
it's
the
lack
of
structure,
the
lack
of
process
has
just
led
to
delays.
It's
led
to
having
to
go
back
and
you
know,
ask
to
have
things
reheard,
there's
inconsistencies
and
it
just
leads
to
stress
and
anxiety
all
the
way
around.
AR
AP
A
If
you
get
a
second,
is
there
a
second
to
defer
all
right?
We
have
a
motion
to
defer
the
appointments
to
the
design
review
board.
Any
further
questions
or
discussion,
councilmember
waring.
U
Just
doing
that
deferral
will
we
get
the
information
out
that
ms
del
chapo
is
asking
for
during
that
period
of
time
between
now
and
the
next
meeting?
Of
course,
thank
you.
I
I
guess
just
to
follow
up
more
specifically
on
all
of
these.
Are
there
applications
and
resumes
that
we
haven't
seen
or
these
the
only
people
who
applied
for
the
design
review
board
the
seven
or
six
are
being
appointed
and
for
board
zoning
appeals?
Three
reappointments
are
there,
other
people
have
applied.
Have
we
let
people
know
there's
openings,
I
mean
bza
is
100
three
reappointments
with
42
reappointing
with
no
new
members,
so.
A
I
mean
I'll
be
honest
with
you
for
the
most
part
it
is
complete,
but
I
I'm
sure
there
are
some
some
new
applicants
on
our
online
system,
which
you're
all
able,
by
the
way
to
access
and
look
at
all
the
applicants
and
their
resumes
online,
and
maybe
we
hadn't
communicated
that
to
you
in
quite
some
time.
But
this
is
all
public
information
and
it's
all
you
know
when
we
send
the
the
agenda
out.
If
anybody
ever
has
any
question
or
wants
some
further
information
before
the
meeting.
G
A
Yeah
staff
does
on
occasion
make
recommendations.
We
also
respond
to
anyone
and
review
their
application
if
they
apply
online.
So
it's
kind
of
a
combination
to
be
honest
with
you,
councilmember
griffin
and.
AP
Mr
mayor,
before
the
pandemic,
I
believe
in
2019
we
got
like
an
excel
spreadsheet
that
had
all
of
the
different
people
that
had
applied.
You
remember
that
mike
oh
yeah,
if
we
could
get
that
in
a
few
like
an
excel
or
pdf
just
so,
we
could
see
it
all
at
once.
Yeah
that'd
be
make
it
because
I'm
sure
there's
a
bunch
more
appointments
coming
up.
A
V
V
That's
for
jackson,
because
you're
real
appointments
definitely
they've
been
there
for
a
while
and
that's
what
I
was
asking
that
question.
Let's
see
if
that
would
kind
of
solve
some
new
appointments,
we
haven't
even
seen
them
yet
right.
The
full
appointments
was
there
might
have
been
there
a
couple
years
after
me.
A
All
right,
any
other
questions
can
I
suggest
we
just
defer
the
whole
lot
and
I'll
I'll
get
more
information.
A
That's
okay,
all
right!
We'll
move
on
to
one
appointment
where
I
know
you
know
the
oh,
a
motion
to
defer
on
the
floor
for
for
for
all
appointments,
paragraph
one
and
we
had
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Oh
next
up
is
a
appointment
for
the
administrative
municipal
judge.
A
Second,
susan
ordina
and
I
know
in
some
ways
I
must
admit
I
bet
some
of
you-
share
some
sadness
over
seeing
this
appointment
come
forward.
A
I
was
a
little
surprised,
but
it
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world.
Susan
has
served
this
city
so
admirably
and
so
dedicated
for
20
years
now,
and
her
life
goal
and
her
profession
would
be
to
serve
as
a
judge
and
she
applied
for
this
position
was
reviewed
by
our
public
safety
committee
and
recommended
to
me.
So
I
recommend
to
counsel.
AS
A
Any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't.
So
then,
of
course,
that
logically
led
to
who
would
serve
our
city
as
our
corporation
council,
he
could
not
be
with
us
tonight.
Wilbur
johnson,
are
you
with
us
by
zoom,
on
on
on
our
virtual
side
of
the
meeting.
A
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
wilbur.
I
think
you
all
know
attorney
johnson
wilbur
johnson
he's
had
a
remarkable
legal
career,
a
remarkable
career
of
service
to
our
community
in
so
many
aspects
all
the
way
from
serving
as
head
of
our
chamber
of
commerce
to
presently
serving
as
the
chairman
of
our
international
african-american
museum
board.
A
A
AP
Got
a
couple
questions
for
clarification.
I'd
be
the
first
to
admit
that
mr
johnson
is
an
excellent
attorney
and
does
an
excellent
job
at
clement
rivers.
AP
I
just
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
transition
if
he
were
to
be
the
corporation
council
because
he's
not
going
to
be
a
full-time
employee
of
the
city,
whereas
susan
probably
puts
in
200
hours
a
week
what
is
going
to
be
the
differential
in
cost
and
having
an
outside
attorney
and
what
does
that
contract
actually
look
like,
because
I
was
kind
of
doing
the
math
and
I'm
expecting
that,
mr
johnson,
being
such
an
acclaimed
attorney
is
going
to
be
quite
expensive
for
us
to
have
so.
A
I
could
first
of
all,
let
me
remind
council,
and
particularly
those
who
were
are
new
members,
that,
prior
to
francis
cantwell,
becoming
our
corporation
council,
that
the
city
for
some
decades,
if
not
forever
enjoyed
an
outside
council
as
its
official
corporation
council,
and
that
was
a
practice
for
for
a
long
long
time.
A
Charlton
desasor
was
corporation
council
prior
to
my
being
elected
mayor,
so
so
that
precedent
existed
for
a
long
time,
so
we
engage
with
his
firm
and
with
wilbur
as
we
would
any
law
firm
doing
business
for
for
the
city
of
charleston.
A
Now,
as
it
turns
out
over
the
last
few
years,
given
various
matters
that
young
clement
rivers
has
represented
the
city,
I
must
admit
to
you
that
our
legal
bills,
with
that
firm,
have
been
pretty
high
and
through
the
pricing
that
has
been
established,
going
forward
actually
using
the
same
number
of
hours,
we
we
would
save
a
little
bit
of
money.
Number
one
number
two
given
that
susan's
salary
will
not
be
there.
A
We,
I
believe,
we'll
see
a
net
savings
or
at
least
a
break,
even
in
our
budget,
for
legal
expenses
by
having
wilbur
come
on.
Of
course
you
you
don't
know
that
for
sure
until
it
happens,
because
it
is
built
out
by
the
hour,
and
so
you
know
it
depends
on
how
many
lawsuits
we
get
filed
against
us
and
need
representation
on,
but
I
do
believe
we
will
handle
most
items
internally.
A
I've
asked
julia
copeland
to
be
the
assistant
corporation
council
in-house
so
that
we
will
go
to
wilbur
and
to
the
law
firm
on
those
matters
that
are
appropriate,
that
we
deem
appropriate
and
with
our
fine
staff
and
julia's
leadership,
we'll
handle
most
everything
that
we
can.
You
know
on
an
everyday
basis.
AT
The
only
thing,
mr
mayor,
is
that
you
know
we've
my
firm
and
I
have
had
a
long
affiliation
with
the
city
in
various
sort
of
non-litigation
roles,
as
well
as
handling
litigation
and
other
sort
of
administrative
matters
for
and
on
behalf
of
the
city,
and
you
know
we
have
tried
in
our
relationship
with
the
city,
which
has
been
a
relationship
for
many
years.
AT
You
know,
we've
tried
to
be
as
efficient
as
cost
effective
and,
of
course,
provide
quality
representation
to
the
city,
and
that
will
not
change
going
forward.
If
the.
If
the
council
approves
this
corporate
council
relationship
corporation
council
relationship,
we
hope
that
that
will
be
the
same
going
forward.
AT
You
know
our
my
pledge
on
behalf
of
myself
and
my
law
partners
is
that
we
would
intend
to
to
serve
the
city
as
effectively
as
we
can,
and
that
includes
the
mayor
and
every
member
of
council,
as
well
as
every
administrative
arm
of
the
city
and
its
employees.
A
AR
A
AR
A
Point
of
view,
councilmember
gregory.
AQ
And
if
we
want
to
discuss
this,
I
think
we
need
to
go
in
the
executive
session.
I'm.
AR
A
Well,
I
will
share
with
you
that
normally,
when
my
experience
is
when
a
law
firm
quotes
a
retainer
that
they
they
normally
would
average
enough
billing
to
that
that
the
retainage
covers
it
and
I'll
I'll
share
with
you
that
over
the
last
three
years
and
and
we're
on
target
again
this
year
in
2021,
with
all
the
legal
services
that
young
clement
has
provided
the
city,
that
it
would
exceed
the
retainage.
A
If
that
tells
you
anything
so
it's
they.
They
really
set
that
I
believe
on
looking
at
the
last
three
three
years
of
what
what
we've
been
spending
with
law
firm.
A
AB
AU
AU
Right
so
we
we
have
a
budget
that
addresses
not
only
in
staff,
but
when
we
hire
folks
to
represent
the
city
for
special
reasons,
we
have
a
budget
for
that.
So
what
is
what
is
our
budget.
S
AV
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
plus
the
salaries
of
all
of
our
attorneys.
One
thing
I
want
to
mention
on
the
outside
council
bills:
some
of
those
bills
are
reimbursed
by
the
irf
at
80
percent,
and
so
those
aren't
actually
the
final
year-end
cost
of
outside
counsel.
In
the
particular
case,
the
retainer
agreement
with
young
clement
rivers
or
clement
rivers
and
mr
johnson
is
ten
thousand
dollars
a
month,
but
the
work
of
the
lawyers
is
credited
toward
that
retainer
and
they
are
capped
at
a
government
rate.
AV
I
believe
the
senior
partners
are
at
three
hundred
dollars
an
hour,
and
then
it
goes
down
from
that
based
upon
their
experience,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
that
is
a
government
rate
for
attorneys
in
this
town.
It's
a
very
reasonable
hourly
rate,
so
the
arrangement
as
I
understand
it
is
again
it
would
be
a
monthly
retainer
agreement,
but
the
work
that
the
firm
does
for
us
is
credited
against
that
amount.
AV
AV
I
don't
know
if
that
answers.
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
from
my
experience,
young,
the
clement
rivers,
lawyers,
who
have
a
very
strong
litigation
and
transactional
background,
have
always
worked
for
us.
They
work
for
us
well
and
under
this
arrangement,
as
I
said,
similar
to
what
charlton
had
there's
a
monthly
retainer,
but
the
lawyers
will
be
working
hourly
against
that
retainer.
AV
So
some
months,
young
clement
may
put
in
six
thousand
dollars
a
month
worth
of
time,
and
mr
johnson
gets
four
thousand
dollars
and
for
his
work
other
months
it
may
exceed
that
amount.
It's
just
hard
to
tell.
We
don't
know
once
a
month.
What
will
be
the
the
legal
work?
That's
required.
A
I
Member
cece,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and,
with
all
due
respect,
councilman
gregory.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
to
executive
session.
The
question
I
think
that
we're
debating
here
is
whether
or
not
we're
better
off
hiring
corporation
council
to
work
in-house
or
going
out
of
house,
and
it's
a
simple
matter
of
math
and
qualification
right,
mr
johnson
is
clearly
qualified.
Mr
dina
has
worked
for
us
in-house.
I
forget
when
we
appointed
you,
how
long
have
you
been
with
us
as
the
in-house
corporation
council
2018?
I
I
believe,
okay
and
then,
before
that
we
had
miss
cantwell.
I
did
the
math
today
conservatively
ms
herdina
works
for
the
city
to
our
benefit.
As
our
corporation
council
two
thousand
hours
a
year,
that's
kind
of
the
standard
associate
a
big
law
firm
number.
She
puts
in
at
least
that,
if
not
more,
if
you
multiply
that
out
by
a
hourly
wage
of
three
hundred
dollars
an
hour
at
two
thousand
hours,
that's
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
legal
time
that
we
get
from
mr
dina.
I
So
it's
a
matter
of
economics
and
reality
I
mean
I
don't
know.
There's
ever
been
a
time.
I've
been
around
here
for
12
years,
council
member
mitchell's
been
here
for
a
little
bit
longer,
where
we've
ever
had
more
stress
put
on
our
legal
team
than
today.
There's
so
much
going
on.
You
know
that,
mr
mayor,
you
see
it
every
day,
part
of
your
job.
So
I
think
it's
a
question
of
economics,
not
qualification,
whether
or
not
we
as
a
council
want
to
advise
you.
I
I
just
think
that
it's
a
good
time
to
talk
about.
We
have
an
option.
The
ordinance
allows
corporation
council
to
have
another
job,
as
you
pointed
out,
we've
had
others
before
bill
regan
being
one,
but
he
had
a
law
firm
of
one
and
all
he
does
work
for
the
city.
Mr
johnson
has
a
very
large
law
firm
and
does
a
lot
of
important
things
in
our
community
right.
So
I
just
think
the
economic
realities
of
it
are
something
that
we
should
discuss
openly
and
talk
about
what
that's
going
to
do
to
our
budget.
I
Mr
deena's
budget
that
we've
talked
to
ms
wharton
about
is
for
her
staff
right
and
her,
and
then
we
have
a
separate
budget
for
outside
counsel,
but
we
adjust
that
based
on
the
demands
of
outside
council.
So
when
it's
now
adding
another
layer
to
what
we
pay
for
outside
council
by
hiring
an
outside
corporation
council.
I
You
know,
I
think
I
went
around
a
long
way,
but
we're
getting
a
great
bargain
with
mr
dina
and
we
may
or
may
not
be
with
mr
johnson,
depending
on
how
many
hours,
but
we
know
for
sure
for
sure,
by
ordinance
that
half
his
time
that
we
pay
him
for
will
be
to
sit
here
with
us
every
other
week.
So
you
know
that's,
I
think,
for
us
to
decide
what
we
think.
The
best
way
to
go
is
mr
johnson
is
eminently
qualified,
we're
losing
a
really
great
corporation
council,
mr
dina.
I
They
just
are
going
to
sit
in
different
seats
and
fulfill
a
little
bit
different
role
in
terms
of
their
availability
and
time
and
where
they
say
so.
I
think
council,
member
gregory
that's
kind
of
the
debate
that
we're
having
not
anything
specific
to
any
person,
it's
just
a
philosophical
question
of
how
we
spend
our
moneys
and
where
we
get
the
most
bang
for
our
buck
and
by
the
way
now
soon
to
be
judge
rodina.
We
got
a
great
bargain
with
you.
So
thank
you.
A
So
y'all
I'm
the
mayor
that
converted
us
from
the
paradigm
of
having
the
outside
counsel
to
the
inside
council.
So
I'm
familiar
with
all
the
positive
aspects
and
we
have
a
wonderful
staff
on
hand
right
now,
but
but
I'm
recommending
mr
johnson
to
you,
I
think
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
our
city
right
now.
A
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
the
way
it
will
be
forever
and
ever,
but
for
right
now,
at
this
point
in
time,
given
the
business
that
we
do
with
this
firm,
given
the
the
situation
of
our
employees,
if
you
want
to
go
in
executive
session
and
talk
about
that,
I'm
happy
to,
but
I
believe
having
mr
johnson
represent
us
even
yes,
even
at
our
city
council
member
meetings
is
a
is
a
positive
thing
for
our
city.
You
talk
about
the
economics
of
it.
I
tried
to
explain
to
you.
A
A
You
know
everyday
items
be
handled
by
the
staff
and
not
have
to
go
to
outside
counsel,
unless
I
think
it's
a
of
a
meaningful
issue
that
that
needs
that
further
scrutiny
and
examination-
and
I
I
firmly
believe
having
mr
johnson
on
hand
to
advise
us
and
be
our
counsel
is-
is-
is
the
right
thing
and
a
good
thing
to
do
right
now,
councilmember
griffin,.
AP
I
have
one
more
question:
what
did
our?
Maybe
this
is
hard
to
look
at
because
of
inflation,
but
what
did
our
budget
and
the
legal
department
look
like
when
we
had
outside
counsel
compared
to
over
the
last
three
years,
as
we
transitioned
into
that
role?
Was
there
a
cost
savings
there
or
was
it
about
the
same?
Do
you
know.
A
Well,
I
think
it
varied
from
year
to
year,
depending
on
how
many
outside
lawsuits
we
had.
I
know
I
think
it
was
two
years
ago
when
we
had
the
matter
with
the
tour
guides
and
the
crown
castle
lawsuit
over
the
cell
towers,
and
we
had
like
three
or
four
big
cases
at
one
time.
If
you'd
looked
at
just
that
id
one
year,
our
our
expenses
went
up,
but
you
know
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
save
on
on
on
the
salary
here,
we're
going
to
add
a
few
hours
there.
A
I
honestly
believe
it's
going
to
be
a
wash
for
the
next
year
or
two,
I'm
sure
we
can,
but
we
won't
know
for
sure
sure
we
can
reevaluate
the
year
and
see
how
absolutely
absolutely-
and
it
will
be
within
the
budget
that
that
council
approves
regardless.
So
I
think
we
just
get
to.
I
understand
the
questions
about
the
finances,
but
I
think
it
will
provide
us
the
most
balanced
and
and
experience
representation
which
this
city
deserves
right
now
and
that's
not
to
cast
any
it's
version
on
any
of
our
staff.
A
They
do
an
incredible
job,
they're
very
smart,
but
I
believe
it's
the
best
thing
for
us
at
this
time.
A
So
can
I
ask
your
forbearance?
Do
y'all
still
feel
like
an
executive
session
is
needed.
A
Z
A
A
A
I
The
rules,
we
can
all
explain
our
vote.
I
just
like
to
go
on
record
and
say
congratulations
to
mr
johnson,
mr
dina.
Thank
you.
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
get
regular
updates
of
where
we
are
vis-a-vis
all
those
numbers.
So
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
this
again
sure
I
am
assuming
that
mr
johnson
is
as
corporation
council
working
for
the
city
as
an
at
will
employee.
We
can
look
at
this
as
we
go
along
and
see
how
those
bills
go.
A
AU
I
just
want
to
echo
what
councilman
was
seeking
saying
and
the
exaggeration
of
200
hours
a
week
is
probably
not
too
far
off
as
to
what
susan
has
done.
We
have
a
staff
that
is
overworked.
I
know
we're
going
to
come
up
for
our
ad
hoc
budget
meetings
sometime
soon,
but
this
is.
This
is
very
much
worth
our
time
to
discuss
the
structure
of
our
legal
corporation.
AU
AU
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
very
sensitive,
very
critical
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
on
a
legal
basis.
The
staff
needs
to
be
bigger
and
more
supportive
from
our
standpoint
as
as
council
members
seeking
is
mentioning
to
all
of
us
right
now.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
the
need
to
have
this
discussion.
D
Yeah
make
the
point:
I
I
think
you
told
us
that
this
none
of
this
transition
will
take
place
until
august
august.
R
U
Waring.
Thank
you,
mr
men.
Congratulations,
mrs
ardena.
We
really
owe
us
a
speech,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
get
that
at
another
time,
somebody's
back
in
whispering
for
pizza
party,
but
and
and
then
I'll
do
deference
to
all
on
council.
U
I
think
part
of
it
was
more
the
uneasiness
of
the
rapidity
on
how
this
kind
of
converged
with
samia
and
since
this
isn't
going
to
take
place
until
august,
maybe
some
of
the
specific
questions
that
some
of
us
have
along
council,
maybe
that
information
gap
can
be
filled
in
between
now
and
august,
certainly
now
in
july,
really
sure
between
council
members,
because
you're
right,
the
you
know,
the
appointment
to
the
judgeship
is
just
outstanding,
we're
all
selfish
and
hating
to
lose
you,
but
you
you,
probably
we're
working
close
to
minimum
wage
with
all
the
hours
and
obviously
mr
johnson's
firm's,
you
know
flat
out
outstanding,
but
that
information
gap
as
to
what
why,
how
there's
some
information
on
blanks
that
need
to
be
filled
in
with
a
number
of
council
members.
A
AW
AW
A
Great
thank
you
tracy.
I
would
like
to
add
just
to
continue
to
reinforce
folks
getting
their
vaccinations
that
the
information
that
I've
read
from
health
care
professionals
indicates
that
the
number
of
people
who
are
still
catching
coven
are
are
mostly
those
who
are
not
vaccinated.
A
If
you
have
not
been
vaccinated
and
in
fact
yet
another
variant
has
come
forward,
that's
even
more
transmissible
than
the
other
high,
more
highly
transmissible
forms
of
covid,
so
I
I
until
everybody
gets
vaccinated.
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
preach
that
message
now,
susan.
If
you
would
come
forward,
we
do
have
a
few
still
lingering
emergency
ordinances
related
to
all
this.
AV
Yes,
sir,
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
support
and
I
will
be
here
until
august
and
expect
to
work
with
you
all
and
see
you
all
over
the
next
six
weeks
or
eight
weeks
whatever,
but
hopefully
not
in
front
of
me
in
court,
and
this
if
I
may
just
take
one
second
mayor.
This
is
very
bittersweet.
For
me.
AV
I
have
been
absolutely
honored
and
privileged
to
work
with
all
of
you,
some
of
you
as
many
as
20
years,
which
is
when
when
I
first
came
here
and
several
council
members
were
on
council
at
that
time,
and
if
I
can
share
just
one
real
quick
story
with
you,
I
came
in
july
of
2001
and
and
about
six
weeks
later,
or
so
the
9
911
attack
occurred
and
all
the
city
employees
were
frightened
and
terrified.
AV
We
weren't
even
sure
we
should
go
out
of
our
office
and
and
mayor
riley
called
us
up,
and
he
gathered
us
at
the
gill
yard
and
he
said,
don't
be
afraid.
We're
here
we're
a
family
and,
to
this
day
I'll
recall
that
day
because
it
turned
out
to
be
so
true.
We
are
a
family
and
I
have
had
the
wonderful
opportunity
and
the
privilege
to
work
with
all
of
you,
mayor
riley
and
his
staff.
AV
The
wonderful
department,
heads
and
their
people
and
my
lawyers
are
the
lawyers
of
the
law
firm
in
my
law
from
our
law
firm,
who
work
tirelessly,
and
I
am
very
enthusiastic
and
happy
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
how
we
can
make
their
lives
a
little
bit
better,
but
every
day
they
come
to
work,
and
they
are
here
as
great
public
servants
who
want
to
do
a
good
job
for
you
and
for
the
city.
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
support.
AV
This
is
an
opportunity
that
I
have
long
for
since
graduating
from
law
school,
and
I
will
miss
all
of
you
but
I'll
be
here
so
hopefully
not
having
to
give
covid
reports
for
much
longer
and
council.
Member
waring
councilmember
jackson
did
remind
me
that
I
may
owe
at
least
one
pizza
dinner
before
I
go
so
try
to
make
that
commitment.
AV
But
in
any
event,
thank
you.
Thank
you
again.
So
what
we
have
is
emergency
ordinance
extending
certain
emergency
ordinances.
We
are
actually
down
to
just
four
proposed
emergency
ordinances.
One
is
the
one
regarding
the
physical
presence
of
council
members
at
council
meetings.
This
is
202040
and
I
think
the
hope
is
that
this
would
be
extended.
It
would
be
for
another
60
days,
but
during
this
time
staff
will
be
coming
back
with
some
recommendations
on
what
to
do
starting
in
the
fall.
AV
One
o49
we've
talked
to
janna
johnson
and
she
would
like
to
continue
o56,
which
is
the
emergency
ordinance
on
allowing
affordable
housing
units
to
be
approved
by
the
administrative
officer
again
for
another
60
days,
with
the
idea,
as
we
wound
down
and
get
to
full
recovery
that
we
may
come
back
with
a
permanent
proposed
ordinance
for
you,
one
of
the
good
things
that
has
happened
as
a
result
of
cobit
is
we've
looked
at
a
lot
of
these
temporary
ordinances
and
think
improvements
can
be
made
on
a
permanent
basis.
AV
The
other
one
is
o92
with
the
police
department
has
asked
us
to
continue
for
another
60
days,
which
is
keeping
the
parade
permit
limit
to
25
or
more.
I
can
tell
you.
We
are
working
on
some
substantive
changes
to
our
ordinances
relating
to
parade
permits
and
special
events
permits,
and
hopefully
we'll
get
that
to
you
sometime
this
summer,
there's
one
other
one
that's
up
for
second
and
third
reading
tonight,
and
that
is
the
one
having
to
do
with
the
parking
on
king
street.
AV
I
did
not
include
that
on
this
in
this
ordinance,
because
my
understanding
was
that
there's
full
support
for
that.
So
that
should
get
second
and
final
reading
tonight,
so
did
did
not
need
to
be
included
in
this.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have,
but
we're
asking
for
approval
of
just
these
four
ordinances
emergency
ordinance
for
the
next
60
days.
Thank
you.
AP
I
can
understand
extending
these
emergency
ordinances,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
state
of
emergency
has
been
lifted
in
our
state.
I
don't
understand
why
we
need
another
60
days
to
continue
these
emergency
ordinances.
AP
It's
time
we
get
back
to
normal,
especially
because
these
are
things
that
impact
a
lot
of
our
contractors
and
the
way
they
do
their
business.
We
got
to
get
some
sense
of
normalcy
back.
I
know
that
it's
convenient
to
do
it.
This
way,
we've
been
doing
it
this
way
for
a
while,
when
you
do
things
for
quite
a
while
it
you
know
becomes
the
norm,
but
this
was
never
the
norm.
AP
These
were
emergency
ordinances
put
in
place
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
pandemic
is
winded
down
to
you
know
three
cases
you
know
it's.
I
can
see
maybe
30
days
but
60
days
more
and
just
I
mean
I'll,
even
vote
for
60
days
tonight.
But
after
this
I
think
we
got
to
have
some
sort
of
precedent
that
we're
not
going
to
keep
extending
these
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it's
time
to
get
back
to
normal.
A
Well,
thank
you
and
we
have
been
whittling
these
downs.
I
mean
we
used
to
have
eight
or
ten
different
subject
matters.
We
we
haven't
gotten
all
our
planning
commission,
all
the
other
boards
and
commissions
back
to
regular
meetings.
Our
commitment
is
to
do
that
in
the
next
60
days.
The
affordable
housing
thing
is
a
convenience,
as
was
the
last
one,
which
was.
A
A
So
next
up
is
the
resolution
and
support
of
peace
in
the
holy
land
and
the
city
of
charleston,
requested
by
council
member
ross
appel,
and
I
know
you
have
read
it
and
and
council
member
appel
read
a
earlier
version
of
it
to
us
last
month,
but
for
the
record
could
would
y'all
mind
if
I
asked
council
member
repel
to
read
the
current
version
of
the
resolution
into
the
record.
AX
It's
been
a
tough
few
years
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
around
the
world.
Conflicts
around
national,
political,
racial
and
religious
lines
seem
to
be
running
hotter
than
ever
and
that's
a
shame.
It
cannot
ever
become
accepted
as
the
new
normal
last
month
as
bombs
and
rockets
were
falling
in
israel,
I
felt
compelled
to
bring
forward
a
resolution
calling
for
peace
and
tolerance,
both
here
in
charleston
and
in
israel.
AX
AX
AX
Whereas
the
city
of
charleston
expresses
strong
support
for
israel
and
it's
jewish
muslim,
christian,
jews
and
other
citizens,
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
also
supports
a
peaceful
future
for
the
palestinian
people
living
in
the
west
bank
in
gaza.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
city
council
of
charleston
and
the
city
council
assembled
that
the
holy
city
charleston
supports
peace
in
the
holy
land
and
here
in
charleston.
As
well,
thank
you.
A
My
name
is
angel's
discussion
or
comments.
AX
Oh
yeah
I'll
move
to
adopt
this
resolution.
Second,.
A
Second,
second,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't
left
the
record
show
it
was
unanimous.
Thank
you,
council,
member,
mr
bear
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
evening
in
support.
Yes,
sir
councilman.
AU
I
just
want
to
congratulate
councilmember
pal
for
putting
this
together,
and
I
just
think
it's
worthy
to
note
that
racism
and
anti-semitism,
it
impacts
all
of
us
throughout
our
community,
and
this
council
member
appel
said
that
israel
is
a
special
place
for
all
of
us.
AU
We,
we
need
to
be
very
strong
in
support
of
this
resolution,
not
just
by
our
words
tonight,
but
also
by
our
actions.
That's
critically
important
for
all
of
us
today,
and
I
hope
this
sends
a
very
strong
message
to
the
community
that
we
not
only
stand
behind
israel,
but
we
stand
behind
any
acts
of
violence
because
of
someone's
sexual
preference
because
of
their
race
because
of
the
religious
beliefs.
AU
This
is
an
important
declaration
from
from
the
city
as
to
our
stance
that
we
would
not
tolerate
this
kind
of
violence
on
this
kind
of
racism,
our
intolerance
of
any
sort
in
our
community.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
support
of
this
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
award
tonight.
Councilman
brookdale
all
right.
U
I
want
to
thank
you
for
stepping
up.
That's
something
easy
to
say.
Someone
else
should
do
or
suffer
in
silence,
sometimes,
as
we
all
do
and
have
done.
U
Sometimes
you
wonder,
how
can
you
have
effect
on
a
world
stage
that
it
starts
with
one
effort?
Just
like
what
you
did
you
know
the
sentiments
were
so
strong,
as
you
know,
last
meeting
that
it
would
have
been
added
to
the
floor
and
passed
last
month.
It
was
much
more
effective
for
you
to
have
it
on
the
agenda,
as
you
and
the
mayor
have
done.
U
Have
it
out
there
for
the
better
part
of
two
three
weeks
for
citizens
in
the
region
who
go
online,
read
out
paraphernalia
to
say
that
charleston
doesn't
stay
quiet
on
the
world
stage,
so
I
thank
you
for
doing
that
because
it
means
it
matters.
U
A
A
V
Yes,
the
community
development
committee
met
on
may
26
at
4
30
pm,
and
we
had
six
different
items
on
the
agenda
and
all
of
them
was
information
only
so
there's
no
actually
to
be
taken
on
either
one
that's
my
report.
AP
A
D
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
the
human
resources
committee
of
the
council
met
on
thursday
june
3rd
and
we
had.
The
majority
of
our
items
were
for
information
only.
I
would
recommend
we
had
some
excellent
reports
that
were
done
by
the
human
resources
staff,
so
I
would,
I
will
recommend
them
to
you.
I
think
the
majority
of
them
will
be
very
interesting
as
we
get
into
our
budgeting
season
beginning
this
next
week.
I
think
so
I
will.
D
I
will
make
sure
that
we
can
forward,
especially
to
the
ad
hoc
committee,
getting
started
some
of
the
things
like
the
employee
compensation
and
turnover
updates
and
demographics,
our
health
care
and
supplemental,
and
then
the
this.
D
This
should
say:
employee
paid
family
life
leave
discussion,
which
you
all
know
we
had
a
resolution
last
year
in
support
of
the
city
beginning
a
paid
family
life
leave
benefit
program,
but
we
also
determined
that
we
were
going
to
defer
it
for
at
least
this
year,
looking
at
budget
opportunities
for
2022,
and
that
was
an
incremental
plan
that
would
start
out
very
minimal
number
of
weeks
and
then
go
to
the
full
12
paid
weeks
that
the
that
the
federal
government
and
the
you
know
the
nation
is
actually
moving
into
so
we'll
be
able
to
talk
about
that
during
budget.
D
We
did
have
one
new
business
item.
That
was
a
resolution
that
was
recommended
to
the
council
by
the
unanimous
vote
of
the
human
resources
committee,
the
only
discussion
before
we
recommended
that
was
from
councilmember
gregory,
who
asked
that
the
the,
whereas
actually
be
a
little
more
specific
about
charleston's
history
of
supporting
equality.
D
D
D
And
whereas
the
city
has
the
responsibility
to
promote
equality
and
prosperity
for
all
members
of
the
transgender
community
and
whereas
the
city
is
proud
to
stand
against.
The
discrimination
of
transgender
people.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
of
charleston
strongly
supports
the
transgender
community
and
directs
the
city
clerk
to
send
a
copy
of
this
resolution
to
the
governor,
the
senate
president
and
the
house
speaker.
D
A
A
AU
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
The
public
safety
committee
met
twice
once
was
on
june
10th
to
interview
two
candidates
for
the
full-time
municipal
judgment,
so
that
question
and
again
congratulations
to
susan
herdina.
We
have
to
call
a
chief,
I
guess
from
here
on
out
now.
Our
second
meeting
occurred
on
monday
june
14th.
The
first
item
of
business
was
support
of
a
and
it
was
a
submission
of
a
letter
of
support
for
musc's
application
to
the
o
j
j
d,
p
y
2
1,
comprehensive
youth
violence
prevention.
AU
AU
AU
The
third
item
of
business
was
the
amended
street
vendor
ordinance,
which
is
before
us
to
tonight.
I
think
it
comes
up
a
second
reading,
while
we
technically
did
not
need
to
vote
on
that,
because
it's
up
for
a
second
reading
as
amended,
the
committee
did
lend
its
support
for
the
amendments
to
that
vendor
ordinance.
AU
So
we're
not
presenting
this
for
council's
consideration
tonight,
but
we
are,
we
did
bring
it
up
for
discussion
for
further
review
as
it
impacts
the
service
and
sale
of
alcohol
up
until
1
30
at
night,
and
some
of
the
discussion
around
that
was
to
stop
the
sale
of
beer
want
and
alcohol
at
1
30,
so
that
when
establishments
closed
at
2
o'clock,
there
would
have
been
a
there
would
be
a
30-minute
grace
period
for
the
patron
to
consume
and
enjoy
that
alcoholic
beverage.
Before
there's
a
hard
close
at
two
o'clock,
that's
the
essence
of
it.
AU
We
did
receive
some
historical
background
on
this
particular
ordinance
is
whether
or
not
there
was
some
state
law
that
preempted
or
had
an
impact
on
on
this.
There
was
the
mini
bottle,
mini
bottle,
long
beverage.
That
was
in
effect
at
one
point
when
this
ordinance
was
passed.
A
All
right
is
that,
in
the
form
of
a
motion,
second,.
AP
Y
A
This
point
we're
just
receiving
a
report
from
your
committee,
we're
actually
vote
on
the
food
vendor
when
we
get
second
readings
all
right,
all
in
favor
of
receiving
the
report
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
up.
Is
our
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
council
member
seeking
thank.
I
You,
mr
mr
mayor
fellow
councilmember,
so
committee
on
transportation
met.
I
guess
that
was
yesterday.
It
seems
like
a
lot
longer
ago
yesterday
afternoon
and
I'm
hoping
that
ms
mckee
mesher,
mr
benjamin,
is
still
somewhere
out
there.
I
know
this
year
was
around
because
I'm
going
to
need
some
help
to
get
through
this.
First
and
foremost,
we
had
a
conversation
with
mr
benjamin,
as
you
all
know,
is
retired
from
being
our
director
and
is
moving
on
to,
I
guess
what
he
hopes
and
our
greener
pastures.
I
We
at
charleston
a
little
protective
of
that,
but
wasted
the
best
of
luck,
and
he
is
on
his
way
some
big
shoes
to
fill
and
we'll
see
where
that
all
goes
in
the
future.
We
got
a
report
from
josh
johnson
from
the
d.o.t
district,
six
manager
at
the
d.o.t
about
a
king
street
road
safety,
and
I
used
the
wrong
word.
I
said
audit
is
actually
study.
I
That
was
a
study
that
was
precipitated
among
other
things,
but
not
exclusively
by
the
tragic
events
of
some
number
of
months
ago
on
king
street
in
front
of
someone
over
here,
the
recovery
room.
We
actually
had
a
meeting
on
site
with
mr
johnson,
where
a
number
of
people
attended,
including
including
council
members.
I
believe
there
will
be
some
recommendations
and
some
action
that
will
come
as
a
result
of
that
study,
but
it's
not
in
the
form
of
an
audit
or
anything
final.
I
Yet,
mr
benjamin,
please
jump
in
if
I
say
anything
wrong,
but
more
to
come
on
that.
There's
some
help,
that's
needed
in
that
area
in
that
corridor.
It
was
not
part
by
the
way
of
the
original
d.o.t
audit
that
went
on
number
of
streets
downtown,
including
king
street,
that
audit
stopped
south
of
where
the
recovery
room
is
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
make
all
of
our
streets
safe
and
my
goodness
that
one
in
particular
needs
some
help.
I
So
we're
going
to
look
to
the
d.o.t
with
input
from
the
city
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
all
of
our
straight
streets
safe,
including
and
not
limited
to
that
little
stretch
of
king
street
next,
as
I
reported
last
month,
our
last
meeting,
I
guess
it
was
last
month
we
did
take
up
by
way
of
ordinance
discussion
as
opposed
to
information.
I
The
right-of-way
permit
and
traffic
and
transportation
permit
fees
ordinance.
You
recall
we
had
a
fairly
lengthy
discussion
about
it
last
time,
just
by
way
of
reference
and
history,
we
permit
people
to
block
our
right-of-ways
to
two
different
departments:
the
traffic
and
transportation
department
on
the
roads
and
our
public
service
department
on
our
sidewalks.
I
What
we're
discussing
tonight
is
only
roads,
sidewalks
are
to
come
and
to
be
filled
in,
but
historically
we
have
charged
very
little
if
not
nothing,
to
block
our
roads
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
many
of
those
roads
are
blocked
for
not
months
but
literally
years,
at
a
time.
So
through
the
hard
work
of
ms
mckee,
ms
shear,
mr
benjamin
and
others,
they
have
worked
very
hard
on
an
ordinance
that
keeps
us
between
the
ditches
pursuant
to
state
law,
and
it's
something
I
know,
we've
all
looked
at,
there's
a
state
law
that
requires.
I
If
we
raise
fees,
use
fees
in
the
city,
they
have
to
be
based
on
some
formula
that
includes
the
cost
of
permitting
and
the
cost
of
managing
the
permit
that
is
actually
issued.
So
they
went
through
a
very
long
and
involved
process
of
figuring
out
what
the
cost
of
putting
permits
out
there
and
putting
and
keeping
an
eye
on
the
street
closures.
I
Currently,
under
our
existing
fee
structure
for
closing
roads
street
blocking
permits,
there
is
no
fee.
Currently
zero
dumpster
permits
are
10
a
day.
Many
of
those
are
in
an
area
where
there
are
parking
meters.
You
can't
park
for
10
a
day.
If
you
go
to
a
dumpster
there,
meter,
bag
and
meter
bag
permits
same
thing
10
a
day.
It
costs
you
a
lot
more
to
just
park
in
those
areas.
We
have
no
fees
for
construction
parking
or
moving
permit
fees.
I
2243
permits
think
of
the
effort
that
it
takes
just
in
terms
of
our
staff
to
get
those
out
there
and
then
to
go
and
follow
up
on
all
those
permits,
all
of
which
represent
something
pretty
major.
On
our
streets,
like
a
complete
street
closure,
he
brought
up
last
time,
mr
mayor
the
example
of
cumberland
street,
which
was
actually
closed
for
a
period
of
time.
We
didn't
even
know
it
for
free,
so
that
represented
by
the
way,
through
those
2243
permits
that
were
issued,
we
only
collected
a
total
of
about
375
000.
I
Had
we
had
in
place
what
we're
about
to
talk
about
tonight
and
I'm
hoping
pass.
That
number
would
be
somewhere
close
to
five
million
dollars,
so
the
spread
is
extreme
and
it
is
time
for
us
to
do
something.
This
is
not
something
that
is
onerous
to
anybody
out
there
you'll
see
in
your
packets.
I
There
is
in
fact
a
fee
schedule
and
if
there's
any
questions,
I
know
that
ms
mckee
is
out
there
somewhere
in
zoom
land
and
come
in
and
talk
to
you
about
it,
but
the
review
of
the
fees
we
think
is
compliant
with
south
carolina
state
law.
It's
something
we
need
to
put
in
place,
we're
going
to
give
it
first
reading
tonight.
If
we
get
it
through
second
reading
in
july,
we
will
actually
have
those
fees
in
place.
I
The
schedule
can
be
revisited,
but
I
would
certainly
recommend
well
first
off
thank
staff
for
what
they
did
on
this
one.
This
was
a
big
lift,
much
needed,
probably
long
overdue.
So
with
that.
That
is
something
that's
going
to
need
action
of
this
council
for
first
reading
and
I
would
highly
recommend
it
to
you.
I
It
came
through
our
committee
not
only
unanimously
but
enthusiastically,
and
it
is
actually
the
only
thing
that
needs
action
tonight,
so
I
would
move
that
we
adopt
for
first
reading
the
traffic
transportation
permit
fees
for
our
streets,
so
recognizing
that
behind
that
is
going
to
come.
The
public
service
fees
for
assignments.
AP
I
Yes,
we're
going
to
raise
those
fees.
If
you
look
on
your
schedule,
so
what
we're
going
to
do
for
parking
space
obstructions,
we're
going
from
10
bucks
to
18
and
50
cents,
so
you're
going
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
than
you
would
pay.
If
you
put
that
meter
on
of
18,
unless
we
go
back
to
10
o'clock,
then
you'll
be
cheaper,
so
18.50.
I
So
that's
an
increase
for
blocking
streets.
It's
a
hundred
thousand
million
percent
increase
because
we
don't
charge
anything
so
we're
going
up
major
streets,
a
review
fee
of
401
bucks,
a
daily
inspection
fee
of
35,
again
the
metered
space,
so
the
the
one
fee
that's
going
up
is
the
blocking
of
the
metered
space.
The
rest
is
fees
are
going
in
place
that
we
otherwise
didn't
collect.
I
A
They're
out
there
watching
us,
they
are
so
any
questions
or
comments
on
this
one.
So
it's
it's.
It's
really
a
no-brainer,
and
I
think
I
use
the
example,
as
you
mentioned
on
cumberland
street
last
month,
when
we
talked
about
this
and
when
it
was
all
clogged
up,
and
I
had
complaints
about
it.
You
know
I
asked
mr
benjamin
and
our
public
service
department
to
just
review
the
encroachment
permit
that
we
had
given
out-
and
I
asked
a
question
when
we
were
talking
about
well,
how
much
are
they
paying
us?
A
Nothing,
and
it's
just
consistent
with
your
comment
earlier
tonight,
councilman
griffin,
where
it's
appropriate,
where
it's
appropriate.
I
mean
you
know
there.
There
are
some
cases
where,
as
as
a
government,
we
want
to
help
people
who
are
serving
our
citizens,
but
private
developer.
Building
a
building
ought
to
reasonably
pay
for
use
of
the
public
right-of-way,
and
this
is
one
of
those
cases
that
we're
limited
by
state
law
as
to
a
reasonable
fee,
and
we
believe
we've
proposed
that
to
you
tonight,
councilmember.
U
Warren.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
want
to
thank
councilman
seekings
and
his
committee,
as
well
as
mr
benjamin
and
his
team,
for
acting
as
quickly
as
you
have
on
this
one.
We
spoke
about
this
over
at
james
allen
and
a
month
later,
here
we
are
a
couple
weeks
later
here
we
are
taking
action
steps.
U
A
I
W
I
Just
add
one
more
thing
for
council's
benefit,
one
of
the
things
that
we
think
that
this
ordinance
is
going
to
do
is
it's
going
to
hurry
projects
along
right
if
you're
paying
to
block
streets
you're,
naturally
going
to
try
to
move
along
more
than
if
you
just
are
out
there
for
free
and
so
typically
their
180
day
permits.
Now
we
think
that
people
get
permits
for
actual
time
and
they'll
be
incentivized
to
get
things
done
a
little
bit
quicker.
I
AP
I
And
they're
sooner
than
better
they'll
know
about
that.
So
I
don't
think
that's
there's
any
issue
with
that.
We'll
make
sure
that
this
is
well
publicized
we've,
given
it
first
reading,
we'll
make
sure
the
permit
center
puts
a
notice
up
coming
coming
to
a
permit
center
near
you
fees
for
closing
down
the
streets,
not
free
anymore.
All.
A
I
So
there
was
a
few
more
things,
none
of
which
are
urgent.
We
did
have
a
director's
update
on
a
number
of
things,
maybe
the
last
one
we
got
from
mr
benjamin,
so
we
again
wish
him
good
luck
and
we
had
a
little
update
on
the
petty
cab
ordinance
more
to
come
on
that
nothing,
no
action
taken.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
our
committee
on
public
works,
I'm
going
to
call
on
councilmember
griffin.
AP
Yes,
sir,
I
filled
in
for
councilmember
waring.
He
celebrated
his
wedding
anniversary.
Congratulations
to
you
and
donna.
We
had
a
12-minute
meeting
and
we're
going
to
beat
that
tonight.
Item
under
item
a
the
181
thousand
dollars
was
already
approved
by
the
ways
and
means
committee
other
than
that
we
got
a
brief
update
from
force
acres
and
king
and
yugi.
We
can
get
that
now
or
you
can
talk
to
mr
fountain
offline.
That
is
the
extent
of
the
report
and
I
would
move
for
adoption.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
so
any
any
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
opposed
now.
I
know
where
you
went
last
night.
I
didn't
know
that
that
makes
sense.
Now.
Congratulations
next
up
committee
on
ways
and
means
counseling.
U
U
Me
I
I
have
a.
I
have
a
point
of
order.
Are
we
going
to
have
report
on
the
real
estate
committee,
or
is
that
included
in
the
way
we
we
have
that
during
raising
needs?
So
why
are
we
having
afternoon
city
council
sure
why
why
are
we
not
approving
it
on
city
council
like
we
normally
would.
U
A
I
U
A
U
And
I
appreciate
the
time
that
the
chairman
of
real
estate
committee
accorded
me
yesterday.
We
have
an
issue
on
council
today
to
lease,
albeit
short
term,
the
piggly
wiggly
site,
the
north
bridge,
bigger
wiggly
site
for
the
use
of
carter
to
basically
help
their
drivers
practice
on
driving
car
to
buses.
U
I
want
to
go
back
to
when
city
council
purchased
that
property.
It
was
controversial.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
city
council
voted
to
invoke
eminent
domain
to
give
the
mayor
a
extra
tube
in
his
tool
kit.
In
negotiating
that
parcel,
I
happen
to
think
it
worked.
We
didn't
have
to
invoke
eminent
domain.
Although
the
property
was
appraised
that
appraised,
I
believe
in
the
high
two-point
millions
hides
2.8
2.9
we
paid
a
premium
for
the
property.
That's
how
aggressive
the
city
went
after
this
site.
U
U
U
U
U
U
Charlestown
landing
is
less
than
two
blocks
away.
We
don't
have
the
equivalent
of
marion
square
anywhere
west
ashland.
We
don't
have
an
attractive
white
point.
Gardens
anywhere
at
a
gateway,
our
main
focal
point,
west
ashland,
the
second
class
status
and
the
mediocrity-
and
it
should
be
stoned
west,
actually
should
be
crying
about
what's
happening
here,
the
mediocrity
that
we
have
placed
at
that
site
at
to
the
tune
of
almost
four
million
dollars
of
taxpayers
dollars.
U
U
U
U
U
U
And
if
somebody
asks
you,
if
your
life
depended
on
it,
what's
going
to
happen
at
that
site,
there's
no
definitive
answer
no
definitive
answer.
What
kind
of
leadership
is
that
look
at
what
happened
on
west
stage
during
that
four
year
period
of
time?
Look
at
what's
been
built,
look
at
what's
been
built
up
and
down.
Morrison
drive.
U
Look
at
look
at
well,
look
at
the
jasper.
You
had
old
jasper
and
look
at
the
new
jasper
today,
but
look
at
the
gateway
coming
into
where
tens
of
thousands
of
people
transverse
every
day
we
all
are
better
than
that.
I'm
not
saying
you
all
are
better
than
that.
I'm
in
here
with
you.
We
are
all
better
than
that,
mr
mayor,
we
are
all
better
than
that.
U
U
U
U
U
U
I
respectfully
ask
that
we
separate
the
vote
on
using
the
northbridge
site
as
a
temporary
bus
driving
practice
lot
for
carter.
I
respectfully
ask
that
we
look
for
a
longer-term
solution
in
being
a
meaningful
part
of
carter's
advancement
practicing
at
another
location,
but
I
asked
for
a
roll
call
vote
on
that
specific
item.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council.
U
AU
AU
AU
Since
then,
we
have
opened
up
this
process
to
allow
the
citizens
of
the
community
to
tell
us
what
they
wanted
on
this
property
and
we
held
several
charrettes
several
meetings.
Several
west
ashley
commission
meetings
to
receive
input
from
the
community,
and
from
that
we
came
up
with
a
design
that
we
eventually
presented
to
city
council
in
2019
to
give
an
idea
of
what
the
community
wanted.
AU
AU
AU
We
have
been
working
on
this
diligently
for
the
past
four
years.
We've
had
a
couple
of
hiccups.
We've
had
a
couple
delays,
but
we
can't
design
this
property
just
in
a
vacuum.
We're
doing
it
consistent
with
clan
west,
actually
we're
doing
consistent
with
the
work
with
with
the
cyclone
department
of
transportation
in
the
county
transportation
development
board
as
we
redesigned
this
area
for
traffic
concerns
as
well.
AU
Now
it
is
true
that
there's
been
some
life
time
behind
us,
but
we
we've
got
the
momentum
down
and
whether
or
not
we
approve
this
contract,
this
agreement
with
toddler,
it's
immaterial
as
to
how
we're
going
forward
with
developing
this
site,
but
we
are
working
towards
that.
I
spent
a
whole
lot.
I've
put
my
last
four
to
five
years
on
my
efforts
behind
this,
and
I
will
continue
to
do
this,
regardless
of
what
we
do
with
carter.
That's
just
immaterial
as
to
the
development
of
this
of
this
particular
site.
AU
We
literally
have
one
shot
at
this
property,
and
we've
got
to
do
it
right
and
we've
got
to
do
with
patients
and
we've
got
to
do
with
cor
cor
collaboration
and
coordination
with
other
departments,
and
that's
our
goal
here
and
that's
what
I
think
we'll
we'll
end
up
doing
when
the
day
is
done.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Let's
call.
A
The
question
mr
mayor,
I
would
like
to
call
a
question
and,
and
the
record
real
will
reflect
councilman
waring,
the
council,
member
sheily
and
griffin
voted
against
this
in
the
ways
and
means
committee.
Of
course
you
welcome
vote
no
at
this
time.
U
No,
mr
mayor,
I'm
asking
for
a
point
on
that
to
split
that
out
separately.
We
do
it
all
the
time
the
people
wes
actually
needs
to
know
and
all
due
respect
to
my
colleagues
down
there,
we
have
not
rezoned
this
property,
we
we
have
not
put
it
in
a
pot
and
when
we
got
back,
we
put
it
up
for
the
public
and
we
got
one
bid
back.
What
did
that?
Tell
you
in
one
of
the
most
active
real
estate
markets,
this
side
of
the
mississippi?
A
Mr
wearing
your
your
point
of
order
is
on
procedure,
not
only
my.
A
A
Can
we
have
one
meeting
here?
Please,
council
member,
shade
made
the
motion
to
accept
the
deliberations
of
the
ways
and
means
committee,
and
it
was
second
so.
U
AM
AP
AP
C
U
My
question
about
it's
out
of
order.
A
H
B
A
Aye
the
motion
passes
next
up
is
our
bills.
For
second
readings
number,
six
is
the
item
regarding
the
mobile
street
vendors.
So
I.
AP
Will
take
one
through
eight
minus
six
right.
AP
A
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't.
So
next
up
is
number
six,
which
is
our
amended
regulations
for
mobile
street
vendors.
I
see
madame
pardinia
wanting
to
address
us.
AV
AV
What
the
impact
of
that
is
is
there's
basically
going
to
be
a
seven
day
lapse
between
the
the
current
ordinance
and
the
new
ordinance,
the
former
ordinance
and
the
new
ordinance.
Now
I
I
spoke
to
I
emailed
robbie
summerfield,
who
just
told
me:
there's
no
pending
applications
so
that
seven
day
period
will
have
no
impact
on
this
ordinance
or
the
practice.
AV
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
that
later,
when
we
get
to
that
point,
I'm
happy
to
explain
it,
but
but
basically
we're
gonna
have
a
seven
day
lapse
between
when
the
bill.
That's
up
for
second
reading
and
and
third
reading
is
going
to
be
approved
by
council.
AV
A
I
Council
member,
I
recall
when
you
were
standing
before
us
about
an
hour
ago
when
we
were
going
through
the
emergency
ordinances.
You
didn't
put
this
on
there
because
of
the
assumption
that
it
was
going
to
get
second
and
third
reading
tonight.
Correct.
Can
we
just
amend
the
emergency
ordinance
just
in
case
to
get
rid
of
that
lapse
and
get
that
gap,
because
who
knows
what
might
happen
between
now
and
two
weeks
from
now?
We.
AV
Can
add
it
to
the
agenda
if
the
there's
a
two-thirds
vote
and
a
finding
of
an
exigent
circumstance,
and
then,
if
we
do
vote
that
way,
we
add
it
to
the
agenda
as
an
emergency
ordinance.
It
would
extend
for
60
days,
which
would
cover
us
until
we
come
back
for
second
and
third
reading
in
july.
I
A
A
I
A
Point
bittersweet
is,
is
a
good
word,
so
number
six
who
wants
to
talk
to
us
about
the
amendments
that
were
made
to
this
ordinance,
or
do
we
want
to
accept
a
mo?
Anybody
want
to
make
a
motion.
A
We
have
a
motion
for
number
six
for
purposes
of
discussion.
We
have
a
second
all
right,
ms
copeland,
you
want
to
share
with
us
the
the
amended
amendments
that
have
been
made
to
this
sure.
AS
Everyone
so
when
we
came
to
committee,
we
brought
the
the
ordinance
as
it
was
adopted
first
reading,
which
included
the
100
or
the
100,
the
100
foot
proximity.
Just
so
you're
all
aware.
So,
with
staff
recommendations
presented
to
committee,
we
had
the
100
foot
proximity,
so
staff
recommended
having
a
special
exception
for
special
event
permits.
We
included
business,
license
requirement,
peddler's
permit
and
the
occupation
the
operational
permit
from
fire
marshal,
which
we
require
of
all
food
vendors
on
private
or
public
property.
AS
We
included
a
requirement
that
they
satisfy
the
noise
ordinance
requirements
and
we
also
included
in
here
responsibility
for
crowd
control,
including
a
10-foot
setback
from
the
right-of-way
to
ensure
that
people
waiting
in
line
with
the
food
vendors
are
not
crowding
the
sidewalks
and
forcing
people
into
the
right
of
way,
and
that
is
what
was
adopted.
I
believe
or
recommended
by
committee.
A
That's
correct
so
I'll
just
put
it
out
there
like
this
based
on
discussion,
we've
heard
this
evening.
Does
anybody
have
any
further
comments
or
amendments
that
they
would
like
to
make
to
this
matter?
Councilmember
appel.
AX
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
got
to
say
I
was
pretty
moved
tonight
by
the
speakers
and
the
employees,
and
you
know
we're.
We've
spoken
a
lot
over
the
last
several
months
about
the
issues
and
the
challenges
we've
been
having
on
upper
king
street,
and
we
all
want
the
same
thing.
We
all
want
a
safe
king
street
for
our
officers
for
our
citizens
for
our
residents
for
tourists.
AX
Of
course,
I'm
worried
about
the
proximity
element
here
in
the
fact
that
it
could,
potentially
just
you
know,
wipe
huge
swaths
of
this
industry
off
out
of
the
market.
Frankly,
so
I
wonder
if
we
could
consider
removing
that
element
from
the
ordinance
this
evening
and
just
go
with
the
requirement
to
have
these
businesses
close
at
the
same
time,
other
businesses
close,
so
we
get
everybody
out
of
king
street
a
relative
same
time
and
see
how
that
works
and
go
from
there,
because
I
really
don't
want
to
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater.
AX
I
think
these
businesses
provide
an
important
role,
an
important
service
and
and
are
important
employers
frankly
for
the
community.
So
that
would
be
my
motion
here.
If
the
individual,
who
who
made
the
motion,
I'm
drawing
a
blank
on
who
it
was,
would
accept
myself.
AX
I
AP
Yes,
sir,
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
that
came
out
here
tonight,
and
this
is
obviously
everybody
has
the
same
purpose.
I
mean
we've
got
different
ways
of
getting
there,
but
public
safety
is
all
we
really
care
about.
Some
of
us
want
to
you
know
some
of
us
had
a
different
way
of
getting
to
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
we
can
all
make
a
compromise
like
this,
the
industry-
I
I
just
I
look
at
some
of
these
guys
out
here.
Quan
man,
I've
been
eating
your
philly
cheesesteaks
for
years.
AP
Man
and
trust
me
there's
been
a
night.
I've
walked
out
of
the
bar
and
I
needed
to
wait
on
an
uber,
and
I
came
straight
to
your
place
and
you
took
care
of
me
and
made
sure
I
got
home
safe
woody.
I
know
you
do
the
same
thing
at
your
place
of
business
and
the
value
the
number
of
people
that
came
up
here
to
this
microphone.
This
gentleman
here
to
say
he
was
able
to
buy
a
house
after
living
in
a
car.
AP
AP
So
I
humbly
thank
all
of
you
for
at
least
considering
councilmember
appel's
suggestions.
I
think
they're
perfect.
Let's
put
everybody
on
the
same
playing
field.
You
don't
have
anybody
staying
open
later
other
than
there's
a
couple
of
brick
and
mortars
that
are
still
going
to
serve
till
later,
but
we
can
address
that
as
need.
Be
we've
got
a
couple
of
bars
downtown
that
are
that
need
to
be
handled
as
well,
and
I
know
that's
coming
too,
we
have
got
to
make
sure
that
we
have
no
illicit
activity
going
on
in
our
establishments.
AP
AP
AJ
I
just
clarify
one
thing
for
the
record
very
quickly
in
response
to
mr.
AJ
AJ
G
G
G
We
want
to
be
part
of
the
success
story,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
tonight
and
hopefully
my
fellow
council
members
will
will
approve
councilman
appel's
amendment,
and
I
do
want
to
say
one
last
thing
about
any
additional
conversations
about
curfew
for
bars
and
restaurants.
They
do
have
questions
about
130.
G
Is
it
last
call
or
last
consumption,
and
we
don't
have
to
have
that
discussion
now,
but
it's
a
big
difference
last
call
at
130
is
different
than
someone
having
a
drink
in
their
hand
and
having
to
finish
it
by
1
30.,
millions
of
dollars
of
revenue
over
the
course
of
the
year
just
with
that
decision.
So
I
just.
A
V
Yes,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
my
colleagues
and
all
the
young
people
and
the
owners
of
the
small
business
that
came
up-
and
I
was
part
of
the
public
safety
committee.
I
live
on
king
street
36
years
and
I've
seen
the
changes.
V
That's
on
king
street,
even
I
drive
king
street
every
thursday,
friday
and
saturday,
and
I
see
what's
going
on
and
I'm
out
there
until
one
or
two
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
I
know
things
that
need
to
be
changed
and
my
thing
is
they're
trying
to
keep
everyone
safe
young
people.
Some
people
come
up
and
say
no
they're,
not
thinking
about
safety.
They
just
want
to
close
on
the
place.
That's
not
true.
V
When
I
see
you
doing
wrong
down
there,
I
would
bring
it
up
and
if
you
have
the
clothes
you're
going
to
have
to
close
the
business
license
will
be
taken
away
because
you
got
some
of
the
businesses
that
selling
to
these
young
people
that
come
down
there.
They
are
selling
drugs
down
there
they're
doing
these
things
down
there
right
there
on
king
street
and
some
of
the
other
businesses
know
about
it
too.
V
V
We
got
to
rest
this
month
ago.
We
got
july
and
august
to
go
and
we
have
a
lot
of
young
people.
That's
going
to
be
coming
down
on
king
street.
They
passed
my
house
by
the
10
and
12
every
night
from
huge
street
to
king
street
and
that's
what
they're
doing
back
and
forth
from
every
bars.
Let's
say
I
have
all
the
bars
now
me
leons
and
those
jacks
they're
right
next,
where
I
live
in.
So
I've
seen
this
all
the
time.
V
So
we
thinking
about
safeness
and
still
trying
to
have
the
businesses
to
stay
there
to
make
money
to
make
their
living
for
the
people
who
are
working
at
those
businesses.
So
we
all
have
to
work
together
with
this.
So
I
was
going
to
make
that
same
suggestion
of
closing
130,
because
I'm
the
one
that
put
it
in.
If
anybody
wanna
know,
I'm
the
one
that
put
it
in
there
for
the
one
o'clock,
I
did
it
on
the
public
safety
at
the
time
when
all
that
incident
happened
there,
so
I
would
come.
V
Yeah,
but
I
know
I'm
saying
that
I
was
going
to
do
it
with
my
colleague.
You
need
to
punch
on
that
particular
one.
After
speaking
with
our
councilman
sacra
and
I
kind
of
thought
about,
I
was
going
to
do,
but
this
is
what
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
work
together
to
keep
this
place
safe.
King
street
is
something
new.
The
businesses
on
king
street
now
is
something
new
to
the
city
of
charleston.
V
AQ
AQ
When
we
initially
voted
on
this-
and
I
think
it
was
councilman
seeking-
we
had
the
chief
who
told
us-
okay
what
he
thought
was
required
for
us
to
make
sure
that
our
city's
safe
most
of
us
voted
on
that
initial
piece.
AQ
As
a
result
of
what
our
chief
told
us
was
in
the
best
interests
of
safety
and
again
I
think
it
was
my
councilman
seeking
who
said
here.
We
have
a
chief
telling
us
based
upon
his
experience.
What's
the
best
way
for
us
to
make
our
entertainment
district
safe
is
all
that
out
the
window.
Now
I
mean
I'm
I'm
going
to
support
the
amendments,
but
I
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
be
consistent
with
the
public.
AQ
A
Well,
the
big
difference
is
that,
prior
to
this
ordinance
coming
to
you,
these
serve
all
night
long
and
it
created
an
environment
where
people
continue
to
gather
on
king
street
council
members.
We're
we're
in
the
same
place
on
that
council
member
secretary.
I
To
respond
mr
mayor
and
councilmember
gregory,
I
was
the
one
who
encouraged
everyone
at
this
table
to
listen
to
the
police
chief
and
I
would
encourage
us
to
do
the
same.
You
ask
what's
changed,
I'd
see,
some
things
have
changed
and
and
it's
a
fluid
and
organic
situation,
and
if
you
go
up
onto
king
street
every
night-
and
you
see
what's
happened,
things
are
getting
better.
Some
of
the
other
things
that
we've
implemented
have
worked,
and
it
is
better.
It's
not
perfect.
I
I
Chief,
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
you,
but
I'm
predicting
you're
going
to
tell
us
that
30
minutes
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
is
given.
What's
happened
in
the
last
month,
or
so
not
the
worst
thing
in
the
world,
but
to
go
beyond
that.
We
still
have
some
work
to
do
and
there's
still
more
to
come
on
this
by
the
way,
but
chief
you're
there.
AM
Yeah,
thank
you.
I've.
I've
listened
to
everything
and-
and
I
concur,
I
think,
with
just
about
everything-
that's
been
said
and
couldn't
say
it
probably
as
well
as
everybody
has
said
it
already.
I
think
it
is
a
fluid
ongoing
discussion.
AM
Following
the
meeting
that
we
had
our
last
council
meeting,
we've
had
an
extensive
discussion
with
the
business
community.
We've
looked
at
each
one
of
our
weekend's
progress
reports.
If
you
will,
we
have
a
I
get
a
report
every
morning,
from
overnight
from
king
street,
there's
been
extensive
discussion
about
solutions
and
I'll
tell
you.
AM
Frankly,
we
we've
been
very
sensitive
to
not
harm
good
businesses,
which
is
the
majority
of
the
businesses
downtown,
and
to
create
solutions
that
are
going
to
help
with
the
experience
that
are
going
to
make
it
for
a
safe
family-friendly
environment
and
and
to
to
to
do
that
without
causing
great
harm
to
the
good
businesses.
So
there's
been
an
ongoing
iterative,
substantial
discussion,
I
think,
to
councilmember
gregory's
point:
nothing
has
changed
in
terms
of
we.
We
do
have
a
significant
problem.
I
think
we
are
all
in
agreement
on
that.
A
L
AR
Councilmember
dale
chapo.
What
was
the?
AR
AS
AR
So
do
we
feel
sense,
part
of
this
ordinance
is
that
they
can't
obstruct
the
right-of-way.
They
do
need
to
manage
crowd
control,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
that's
best
for
the
chief
and
maybe
even
for
the
fire
marshal.
I
don't
know
if
he's
out
there
or
chief
courier
do
you
feel
as
though
we
can
reduce
that
100
feet
based
on
some
of
these
other
things
that
are
in
the
ordinance?
AO
AR
AR
A
AR
A
AF
Oh
good
evening,
I
would
talk
to
chief
jalazada
this
afternoon
about
this
and
from
the
fire
department's
perspective.
If
the
hundred
feet
provision
goes
away,
we
are.
We
are
fine
with
that.
D
Jackson
talk
to
randa,
but
we
do
have
a
new
insertion
in
the
amended
draft
that
was
put
before
us,
and
now
we've
amended
it
again.
But
for
me
that
was
like
a
very
logical.
D
We
have
a
10
foot
setback
now
they
cannot
so
that
we're
not
people
out
into
the
street,
and
I
think
my
my
understanding
of
what
the
chief
was
you
know,
advising
us
against
last
month
was
just
that
that
we,
by
the
vendors
being
in
the
places
where
they
were
and
now
we're
making
them,
be
10
feet
off
the
public
way
as
they
call
it,
but
before
that
they
were,
they
were
creating
crowds
around
them.
That
then
made
the
people
who
are
trying
to
pass
by
walk
onto
the
curb
and
out
in
the
street.
A
AU
Just
very
briefly,
mr
mayor,
thank
you,
our
responsibility.
Our
number
one
responsibility
to
you,
folks,
who
are
here
tonight
and
those
who
are
listening
in
to
our
our
community
at
large,
is
public
safety.
You
can
have
the
best
establishment
in
the
world.
You
can
serve
the
best
food,
the
best
beverages
in
the
world,
but
if
we,
if
our
streets
are
not
safe,
people
are
not
coming
down
to
king
street,
so
the
goal
here
is
not
to
be
punitive
in
any
measure
whatsoever.
The
goal
here
is
to
ensure
our
citizens
and
you
are
safe.
AU
That's
the
whole
purpose
behind
us
and
we
can
tweak
this
in
any
way
that
we
need
to
to
accomplish
that
goal.
But
we're
not
here
to
hurt
your
businesses,
we're
not
here
to
punish
you
we're
here
to
make
sure
that
our
streets
are
safe.
I'm
a
small
business
owner.
I
have
a
small
one-man
law
office.
I
understand
which,
which
all
are
going
through.
My
family
grew
up
on
king
street.
You
can
go
down
at
493.
King
street,
see
our
name
that's
involved
and
marked
right
on
the
on
the
sidewalk
at
shades
department
store.
AU
So
I
know
the
the
issues
that
you're
going
through
and
we
appreciate
the
problems
that
you
have
to
go
through
the
challenges
that
you
have
to
go
through,
we're
not
here
on
deaf
ears
at
all,
but
we
all
have
to
work
together
to
find
a
solution
to
this
issue.
The
chief
has
made
this
very
clear
to
us.
It's
a
huge
problem
and
we'll
work
collaboratively
and
we'll
make
the
adjustments
we
need
to
make
to
satisfy
this
issue
and
get
this
thing
resolved
once
and
for
all.
Thank
you.
A
We're
giving
second
reading
right
now
to
number
six
as
amended
and
then
further
amended
tonight,
to
remove
the
100-foot
vicinity
requirement
and
to
reset
the
time
rather
than
one
o'clock
to
be
one-third,
correct.
All
right,
I'm
going
to
call
the
question
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
We
had
one
nay
down
here,
councilmember
gregory.
I
A
Yeah
we'll
come
back
to
you
in
in
whatever
next
month,
is
I'm
losing
track
july
for
for
for
third
reading?
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
input
and
being
here
tonight.
I'm
going
to
make
one
comment
on
an
observation
from
the
many
comments
were
made
about
how
these
vendors
help
silver
people
up
that,
maybe
we
need
to
focus
also.
A
I
know
we
are
already
on
over
serving
if
people
are
that,
intoxicated
that
they
can't
get
to
their
uber
without
stopping
to
get
a
philly
cheese
steak,
then
that
that's
an
issue.
Mr
mayor.
AP
A
I
That
gotcha,
can
I
just
make
a
comment
about
that
yeah.
It
just
seems
a
little
counterintuitive
to
not
give
this
third
reading
if
one
of
the
issues
is
public
safety
and
what
we're
about
to
do
is
make
it
safer
out
there
on
the
street.
I
I
don't
get
that,
and
I
would
certainly
ask
that
y'all
look
inside
and
and
say,
let's
give
this
thing
third
reading,
recognizing
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time,
a
long
time.
AQ
Way
that
consistency
bothers
me,
what
inconsistency
bothers
me,
you
don't
come
to
me
at
the
last
meeting
and
tell
me
even
if
I
did,
I
was
going
to
perhaps
vote
against
it.
We
need
this
for
safety,
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah.
Okay.
That
was
the
argument
and
it
changed
and
swayed
my
decision
because
we
said
the
chief
wants
it.
What
I'm
saying
now
is
I'm
a
bit
confused
over
what
in
hell
is
going
on?
Excuse
me
charge
me
for
the
hell,
I'm
I'm
I'm
it's!
The
inconsistency
bothers
me
a
bit.
A
All
right!
Well,
I
I
would
just
respectfully
remind
you
that
you
know
they
were
serving
three
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
that's
after
the
rest
of
the
brick
and
mortar
places
had
closed
is
what
we
were
trying
to
particularly
curtail.
A
So
all
right
we're
going
to
move
on
to
items
for
first
reading,
we
have
a
zoning
for
1349
ashley
river
road.
We
have
a
a
motion
to.
A
Q
A
A
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
The
next
regular
city
council
meeting
is
going
to
be
july
20th
and
we
will
have
a
special
meeting
between
now
and
then
have
we
determined
that
date.
Yet.