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City of Charleston Human Affairs and Racial Conciliation Commission 9/14/23
A
A
A
But
I
would
like,
before
the
moment
of
silence,
just
to
reflect
on
on
September
11th
that
we
had
this
earlier
this
week
and
want
us
all
to
just
think
if
we
had
a
friend
or
colleague
or
co-worker
or
family
member
or
anyone
that
was
involved
in
9
11,
either
at
the
Twin
Towers
at
the
Pentagon
or
on
the
ill-fated
flight
93
United
93..
If
we
could
just
take
a
moment
of
silence
to
to
remember
those
lost
lives,.
A
Thank
you
and
before
we
begin
this
evening's
public
comment
period.
I
believe
we
do
have.
Is
there
one
person
here
for
public
comment
before
we
do
begin
that
I
do
want
to
congratulate
and
recognize
one
of
our
commissioners,
Mr
Elvin,
Johnson
I
didn't
realize
your
nickname
was
scooter.
Johnson
was
just
inducted
this
weekend
in
the
Citadel
hall
of
fame,
so
we
were
all
debating
before
you
got
here.
A
What
position
you
played
I
think
Carol
had
mentioned
linebacker
and
someone
said
wide
receiver
and
I
said:
there's
no
way.
Elvin
was
a
wide
receiver.
B
So
I
was
5
11
158
pounds
when
I
stepped
on
campus,
so
I
kind
of
ate
myself
over
the
past
20
years.
So
but
yeah
I
played
wide
receiver,
quarterback
and
wide
receiver.
A
That's
what
they
said
and
I
just
have
to
make
sure
we
read
this
into
to
the
record
Elvin
scooter
Johnson
was
one
of
the
most
versatile
football
players
to
step
foot
at
Johnson,
Haygood
Stadium,
scooter
Johnson
was
a
two-time
all-southern
conference
wide
receiver
for
the
Bulldogs.
After
switching
from
quarterback
to
wide
receiver.
He
finished
his
career
with
100
ton
receptions,
1603
yards
and
16
touchdowns.
In
two
years.
A
His
most
productive
season
came
in
2020
in
2002,
where
he
earned
honorable
mention
All-American
honors
from
the
National
Football
Gazette
after
finishing
with
69
receptions
for
960
yards,
the
69
receptions
ranked
third
on
the
single
season
list,
while
the
960
yard
ranked
fourth
Johnson,
would
eclipse
the
100
yard
mark
five
times
during
the
season.
He
takes
great
pride
in
supporting
the
Civil
Athletics
as
an
active
member
of
the
Citadel
Football
Association
board
and
community
service
activities
around
Charleston
Alvin.
Thank
you
so
much.
That's
awesome.
Yeah.
A
And
I
didn't
realize
we're
that
young
too
so
2003
42.
yeah,
so
all
right!
Well,
yes
to
get
started.
We
do
have
one
public
comment
or,
if
anyone's
online,
if
you,
which
I,
don't
see
anyone
those
that
are
interested
in
speaking,
okay,
just
here
to
observe
awesome
well
welcome,
welcome!
You
can
sit
up
here
if
you'd
like
you,
don't
have
to
be
way
back
there,
but
with
that
we
are
going
to
prove
our
minutes.
A
D
Yeah,
just
a
couple
things
to
note
back
on
the
bids.
At
our
last
meeting
we
did
discuss,
we
had
a
great
presentation
on
the
Rapid
Transit
project
and
Bob
Simon
volunteered
to
be
our
layers
on
official
liaison
to
that
that
group
they
they
have
an
advisory
committee.
So
Bob
will
be
our
point
guard
on
that.
D
D
Also
in
the
minutes
we
talked
about
taking
a
look
at
the
diversity,
video
that
Adrian
had
had
posted
and
developed
I.
Don't
know
if
folks
had
an
opportunity
to
do
that
and
it
seems
to
address
adequately
the
employment
side
of
the
house,
but
it
does
not,
as
I
suspected
talk
about
the
equity
lens
in
a
broader
sense,
as
discussed
in
the
master
plan.
D
So
that
may
be
another
piece
of
work
for
us
to
take
up
subsequently
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
one
of
our
two
of
our
colleagues
on
commissioner
Bowden,
Steven
and
Jason
will
be
on
have
the
opportunity
to
interview
the
Police
Chief
candidates
next
Monday,
and
they
both
have
expressed
an
interest
in
knowing
whether
or
not
there
are
any
questions
that
this
August
body
would
like
to
see
put
before
those
folks.
A
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
Jerry
so
yeah,
so
this
is
Commissioners
and,
of
course,
Carol
at
home
feel
free
to
shoot
me
an
email
with
a
question
if
you
can
get
it
to
me
before
close
a
business
tomorrow,
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
that
to
work
to
our
folks
at
the
mayor's
office.
But
I
did
ask
Jerry
I
ready
to
tee
up
a
few
questions,
but
anything
that
you
personally
think
that
should
be
asked
and,
of
course,
I'll.
A
Look
at
that
list
of
questions
and
if
there's
something
similar
I
probably
won't
ask
that.
But
if
there's
something
that
falls
within
the
lens
of
this
team,
please
please
send
that
to
me
and
if
you
could
I
said
close
the
business
tomorrow
by
noon
tomorrow,
actually
because
I'd
like
to
get
that
to
the
mayor's
office.
D
It
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
the
press
conference
and
now
see
the
2024
Martin
Luther
King
Summit
annual
Summit,
the
52nd
annual
Summit
sponsored
by
the
YWCA.
It.
D
The
I
had
forgot
what
the
theme
is
last.
This
year's
thing
was
due
to
work
whatever
next
year's
theme
is
going
to
be
difficult,
I'll
do
that
in
terms
of
giving
directions,
but
it
seems
important
the
mayor
in
his
opening
comments
committed
the
city
to
being
a
sponsor
at
the
top
level.
D
On
the
in
his
introduction,
he
mentioned
a
number
of
initiatives
that
the
city
is
undertaking,
that's
consistent
with
the
work
of
Dr
Martin
Luther
King,
but
he
omitted
or
did
not
comment
about
heart's
existence,
which
left
me
with
the
notion
that
we
lacked
visibility.
We
perhaps
are
not,
as
engaged
as
we
could
be,
and
we
need
to
step
up
our
game
to
investor
and
be
invested
the
king.
D
The
annual
event
is
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
ways
in
which
this
community
can
reconcile
and
sell.
We
can
talk
about
equity
and
diversity
and
the
like,
and
that's
a
great
platform
and
the
700
people
in
the
room
right
and
even
more
more
residents
of
the
city.
Thinking
about
that
amplifying
why
the
event
happens,
who
should
participate
in
it
and
perhaps
even
sponsoring
you
know,
service
activity
or
something
that's
consistent
with
our
overall
strategies?
It's
not.
This
is
not
something.
That's
focused
back
on
city
government.
D
What
city
government
can
do.
This
is
what
the
community
can
do
and
that
is
in
fact
part
of
our
charge
so
excited
about
the
upcoming
activity.
The
mayor
is
co-chair
along
the
two
co-chairs,
the
mayor
and
Herbert
right,
Herbert
Drake
news
is
the
other
co-chief
member
of
my
congregation.
Okay
and
Darren.
D
Goss
is
the
keynote
speaker,
the
president
of
the
CEO
and
president
of
the
Community
Foundation
great
opportunity,
I
think,
and
we
should
explore
other
situations
or
other
annual
events
that
occur
that
are
part
of
the
calendar.
That
speaks
to
our
responsibility,
to
highlight
diversity
and
inclusion
and
I
think
we
just
step
up
a
little
bit
in
that
area,
and
that
concludes
my
comments.
E
Yeah
it
is
it
kosher
to
respondent,
Mr,
yeah,
I,
I
I
regretted
not
being
able
to
be
at
the
press
conference
I
had
committed
to
attend
the
Metro
Chamber
of
Commerce
housing,
Summit
that
was
held
that
same
morning
and
but
as
I'm
a
I'm
a
beginning
second
year.
Member
of
the
board
of
directors
for
the
YWCA
and
I
would
be
I
I
think
the
board
is
already
talking
about
how
to
widen
the
reach
for
MLK.
E
We
have
a
lot
of
newer,
younger,
I'm,
happy
to
say
board
members
who
have
Circles
of
influence
that
far
exceed
just
the
typical
peninsula,
where
this
MLK
you
know,
series
of
events
got
started
years
and
years
ago,
and
everyone
is
very
cognizant
that
we
have
a
new
generation
of
citizens,
not
just
focus
down
on
King
Street,
but
all
over
our
Metro
region.
That
needs
to
fill
like
like
they
have
some
responsibility
to
make
this
MLK
weekend
as
robust
and
meaningful
as
they
possibly
can
so.
E
I
would
love
to
carry
some
of
your
comments.
We
have
our
first
board
meeting
a
week
from
Monday
and
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
comments
from
hark.
I
do
feel
like
I
would
like
to
get
a
little
credit
like
you've
given
Bob
in
terms
of
making
that
another
hat
that
I'm
wearing
on
before
behalf
of
her
and
I,
made
it
very
clear
when
I
was,
you
know,
invited
to
be
on
the
board
that
this
body
was
my
first
Allegiance
in
terms
of
empowering
women
and
eliminating
racism,
but
because
that
is
their
charge
it.
E
It
really
is
a
very
happy
dovetail
mission
for
me
personally.
So,
thanks
for
being
there,
I
I
saw
the
video
about
it
and
the.
Why
is
advertising
not
only
that
honor
of
being
you
know,
kicked
off
in
the
city's
chamber,
but
also
the
the
list
of
people
who
are
supporting
and
buying
into
the
whole
mission
of
the
Y.
So
it
was
a
great
launch.
A
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
As
most
of
you
know,
the
motion
Festival
is
one
of
the
Signature
Events
cultural
events
focusing
on
culture
from
the
African
diaspora.
This
year
the
city
council
appropriated
some
additional
dollars
to
boost
the
promotion
of
the
festival
and
Charleston
Singleton.
D
It
was
appointed
artistic
director
and
we've
asked
Charlton
to
come
today
to
provide
us
some
update
on
terms
of
what's
happening
as
as
well
as
some
of
the
discussion
about
the
potential
restructuring
of
the
festival
and
how
the
work
of
the
festival
could
dovetail
with
what
we're
doing
here
at
heart,
Mr
artistic.
C
F
No
actually
I
don't
want
the
gap
on
that.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
be
here
being
in
this
role
for
Mosier
is
still
kind
of
mind-boggling
and
earth-shattering
and
a
dream
come
true
for
me,
growing
up
in
the
Low
Country
being
raised
in
the
10
Mile
community
of
Awendaw.
F
And
watching
the
festival
as
a
kid
and
having
my
parents
bring
me
to
see
various
things
from
the
musical
entertainment.
That's
been
here
to
my
first
cousin,
the
late
Robert
Washington,
designing
the
initial
posters
and
having
all
kinds
of
exhibits
himself.
That
was
one
thing
and
then
later
on
to
be
a
part
of
the
festival
as
a
supporting
artist
for
other
major
artists
that
came
through
to
being
a
featured
artist
and
now
to
being
someone
to
help
push
the
festival
even
further.
F
F
We've
been
able
to
update
our
website,
we've
been
able
to
add
social
media
to
the
the
Arsenal
per
se,
which
is
something
that
I
think
is
very
important
nowadays,
if
I
think
everybody
notices-
and
everybody
recognizes
that
a
lot
of
information
these
days
is
generally
picked
up
in
their
hand
on
a
telephone
and
to
be
a
part
of
that
network
of
reaching
out
to
the
world,
basically,
is
something
that
I
think
will
definitely
help
push
our
Festival
into
New
Heights.
F
We
updated
the
website
which
looks
tremendous
Mr,
Marcus
amricer,
along
with
some
other,
really
incredible
team
members
of
one
of
which
is
this
young
lady
right
here,
Miss
Victoria,
Ray
Moore.
They
have
been
just
instrumental
in
helping
us
to
boost
the
publicity
of
moja,
instead
of
it
just
being
sort
of
in
the
local
sort
of
scene.
F
We
still
have
our
staple
events,
such
as
the
parade
that
will
be
on
Thursday
September
28th,
which
will
start
at
Marion
Square.
It
will
go
all
the
way
over
to
the
custom
house.
We
have
the
reggae
block
dance
party,
that's
going
to
be
at
brutal
Bank
Park.
We
have
our
our
mosia
block
party,
which
will
be
on
October
6,
and
we
have
the
closing
festivities,
which
will
be
on
October,
8th,
Sunday,
October,
8th
at
Hampton
Park.
Those
four
things
in
general
have
always
been
huge
for
the
community.
F
They
have
always
had
great
turnout.
They
have
always
brought
a
lot
of
the
community
together
in
order
to
celebrate
everything
that
is
moja
and
all
that,
it's
all
that
it's
had
to
offer,
and
so
it
was
very
important
that
we
maintained
the
the
status
that
that
that
it
has
already
had
and
built
upon.
You
know
what
has
been
laid
all
of
these
years,
We've.
Also
in
addition
to
those
staple
events,
we
have
added
some
internationally
known
artists
to
come
through.
F
Most
notably,
we
have
a
young
man
by
the
name
of
Marcus
Anderson,
who
is
a
chart
topper
on
the
Jazz
circuit.
He
is
a
musician
that,
in
addition
to
having
a
number
of
his
own
releases,
has
played
with
folks
like
Prince
and
just
a
number
of
Chaka
Khan
a
whole
number
of
people.
He
is
a
South
Carolina
native
from
the
Metropolis
of
Spartanburg
South
Carolina
and
was
literally
chomping
at
the
bit
to
get
down
here
to
be
a
part
of
mosia.
F
We
have
the
wonderful
husband
and
wife
team
internationally
acclaimed
team
of
Michael
Trotter
and
Tanya
trottle
Trotter.
Together
they
are
known
as
the
war
and
treaty
yeah
yeah,
their
Dynamic
group
they've
been
charred
Toppers.
They
have
won
numerous
Awards.
F
We
in
addition
to
to
them.
We
have
the
the
Stateside
debut
of
Yankee
Bayesian,
which
is
a
tremendous
play
that
is
directed
by
a
young
man
by
the
name
of
Dalek
brothwaite,
who
is
just
about
one
of
the
most
exciting
young
up-and-comers
that
that
you
want
to
ever
meet.
F
His
name
is
fast
rising
in
a
bunch
of
different
areas,
and,
of
course,
in
addition
to
that,
we
have,
you
know
our
jury
to
Art.
We
have
Lavon
Bell
with
his
exhibit
Fletcher
Williams
III.
F
We
have
just
there's
a
there's:
a
really
high
ceiling
of
talent
in
the
Low
Country
young
Talent.
Oh
speaking,
of
of
of
young
Talent
I'm,
especially
looking
forward
to
a
young
flute
player
by
the
name
of
Megan
Bennett
Megan,
is
a
product
of
the
Low
Country.
She
is
from
the
Hamlin
community
over
in
the
Mount
Pleasant
area.
F
Let
me
back
up.
She
is
now
Dr
Megan
Bennett
and,
in
addition
to
being
one
of
the
most
sought
after
flute
soloists
in
the
in
in
the
country,
she
is
equally
as
great
a
professor
and
has
taught
Coast
to
Coast
her
recent
appointment
she's
now
in
faculty
at
NYU,
and
she
has
agreed
to
be
a
part
of
of
the
Festival.
F
She
will
be
appearing
with
the
color
of
music,
exactly
exactly
which
is
which
is
full
circle,
because
she
was
one
of
the
first
participants
in
that
Festival
many
years
ago.
So
we're
excited
about
Mojo
for
2023.
F
We
are
already
chomping
at
the
bit
to
start
digging
in
our
heels
about
Mosier
2024.
We
think
that
everyone
will
love
what
we
have
put
forward
this
year
for
the
city,
and
we
hope
that
everyone
will
continue
to
support.
Moja
continue
to
talk
about
Moshe,
I,
think
from
someone
that
has
been
sort
of
quote
on
the
outside.
Looking
in
you
know,
motion
has
been
around
for
so
long
quietly.
F
You
know
over
40
years
and
that's
saying
something
in
itself
and
I
think
everyone
has
always
felt
and
believed,
and
quietly
said
that
you
know
the
festival
could
be
a
lot
bigger
than
it
is,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
charges
that
we
have
now
and
one
of
the
responsibilities
that
we
have
now
is
to
try
to
make
that
a
really.
You
know
reality,
instead
of
the
feel
of
it
being
just
this
little
Festival
that
happens
in
the
low
country.
F
You
know
for
10
days
in
the
fall
and
we
get
a
few
people
from
out
of
town.
This
is
something
that
we
talk
about
it
being
domestic.
We
talk
about
it
being
International,
it
should
be,
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
forward
to
digging
my
heels
in
and
and
everyone
working
with
us
in
order
to
make
that
a
reality.
E
E
E
I'm
privileged
to
have
have
millison
Dr
Millicent
Brown
as
a
friend,
and
she
was
very
disappointed.
I
think
it
was
just
last
year
and
it
was
still
coming
out
of
covet
and
I.
Think
everybody
you
know
was
empathetic
to
that,
but
she
said
she
had
some
friends
from
I
think
I
want
to
say
just
DC.
It
wasn't
like
in
Chicago
or
whatever,
who
couldn't
find
anything
about
moja
in
in
advance
of
planning.
F
Another
thing
about
that
just
to
to
piggyback
off
of
that
is
that
you
know
once
again
from
someone
on
the
outside
kind
of
looking
looking
in
I
always
felt
that
Mojo
was
just
something
that
we
talked
about.
You
know
maybe
a
month
before
it
actually
happened.
You
know
we
intended
to
talk
about
it.
360
you
know,
year
round,
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
have
Mojo
sponsored
events
throughout
the
year.
F
It's
always
going
to
be
great
to
have
the
festival,
because
that's
what
everybody
looks
forward
to
and
having
that
that
specific
block
of
time,
but
we
should
be
talking
about
this
festival
and
the
celebration
of
African-American
and
Caribbean
art
forms
and
everything
like
that
all
year
round.
So
that's
our
aim.
A
Thanks
Charlton
I,
don't
think
we've
met
personally.
Maybe
we
have
but
I'm
city
council
member
and
been
on
Council
for
four
years.
I
got
a
couple
questions.
A
Are
you
all
thinking
about
extending
the
opportunities
outside
of
this
immediate
downtown
in
terms
of
like
Productions,
specifically
Hampton
Park?
Are
you
guys
planning
anything
there?
Hampton.
F
A
So
anything
this
this
group
can
do
to
help
promote
and
amplify
the
items.
Let
us
please
let
us
know
yeah
and
the
last
thing
we
should.
We
should
acknowledge.
Jerry's
contributions
has
been
talking
about
Mojo
for
a
while,
particularly
pushing
the
mayor,
pushing
others
in
the
community
to
make
sure
it
gets
Amplified.
So
Jerry
your
efforts
do
not
go
unnoticed.
A
D
I
appreciate
that
the
again,
because
our
tax
dollars
go
in
to
motion
and
I
pay
taxes,
I
want
to
see
maximum
bang
for
above
and
and
so
you're
talking
about,
you
know
having
a
thinking
about
it
each
year
round,
which
would
suggest
that
there's
a
broader
conversation,
whereas
that
table
and
how
to
if
someone
wants
to
be
at
that
table
to
help
participate
in
that
process.
How
do
we
do
that.
F
Well,
we
can
always
contact.
We
have
a
contact
form
on
the
website
which
I
encourage
everybody.
If
you
haven't
looked
at
the
website,
Mojo
festival.com,
you
can
always
access
that
that
website
and
there's
an
email
address
and
the
message
will
get
to
all
of
us
on
the
team.
That's
the
first
thing.
F
F
So
I
think
that
if
we
do
have
people
that
are
weighing
in
you
know-
and
you
get
those
times
where
it's
you
know,
I
would
love
to
see
this
person.
I
would
love
to
see
this
act.
I
would
love
to
see
this
Art
Exhibit
I
would
love
to
see
this
poet
or
something
like
that?
That's
how
you
that's
how
you
increase
the
appeal
you
know
of
of
your
audience,
not
just
locally
because
they
might
live
here,
but
that's
that
just
helps
with
the
full
reach.
F
So
you
know
we're
here.
You
can
contact
us
so.
D
You
also,
as
I,
understand
thinking
about
changing
the
structure,
so
moshes,
planning
and
functioning
is
more
like
spoletto
as
a
501c3
kind
of
operation.
That
transition
is
there
a
way
or
a
need
for
folks
to
be
who
are
interested
in
participating
in
that
making
certain
that
that
infrastructure
is
built
out.
F
F
That
seems
to
be
the
magic
words
for
giving
you
know
and
so
I
think
most
festivals,
most
most
entities
you
know,
would
love
to
have
people
that
are
willing
to
participate
not
only
physically
but
monetarily.
You
know
I
think
people
would
love
to
pour
in
a
lot
of
help
and
support
for
Moshe
just
because
of
what
it
is
just
because
of
the
location
just
because
of
the
the
talent
that
could
be
brought
here.
Especially
here,
you
know,
is
no
surprise.
Charleston's
always
are
already
a
booming
tourism
spot.
F
D
And
just
one
final
thought:
the
building
out
of
of
moja
as
a
complement
to
the
tourist
business.
That
brings
Revenue
here's
one
thing:
the
other
I
mean
our
charge
is
to
help
to
build
community
and
Moshe
seems
to
me
to
be
a
potential
source
for
building
that
Unity.
D
So,
while
we
focus
on
making
certain,
we
have
the
financial
muscle,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
local
impact
and
building
community
and
bringing
diverse
communities
together
in
in
ways-
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity-
I-
can't
think
of
nobody
better
than
you.
F
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
thank
you
for
all
of
the
conversation
that
we've
had
so
far
and
I
look
forward
to
other
conversations
about
it.
A
All
right,
we
are
moving
on
I,
don't
see
Chloe
here.
Do
we
know?
Okay,
there
you
are
Chloe,
you
appear
just
magically
well.
The
floor
is
yours.
It's
Chloe's
from
our
our
city,
planner,
planning,
preservation
and
sustainability
office.
The
floor
is
here
so
go
ahead,
I'm!
Sorry,
there
we
go.
D
This
is
what
I
want
to
remind
Commissioners
that
our
last
meeting
we
had
a
presentation
on
the
rapid
transit
project
in
the
presentation
of
that
data.
They
pointed
out
that
a
portion
of
the
route
hits
the
peninsula.
The
conversation
about
the
impact
on
housing,
employment
and
the
like
was
part
of
what
was
highlighted
and
the
possibility
of
there
being
some
items
or
options
in
the
zoning.
D
The
creation
of
zoning
in
that
area
could
be
impacted,
and
the
process
that
Chloe
is
going
to
talk
to
us
about
is
tied
right
into
that
development
of
the
plan
would
might
lead
to
changes
in
zoning
that
could
interface
with
the
two
projects
so
that
that's
why
we
did
that
last
week,
you're
here
this
week,
thanks
Chloe.
H
Thanks
Jerry
thanks
everyone
for
having
me
I'm,
going
to
be
sharing
some
information
about
a
new
planning
effort
for
the
Charleston
Peninsula
and
I
have
a
couple
of
visuals
not
much
in
terms
of
slides
tonight,
because
this
is
just
getting
started.
So
I
have
minimal
information
to
share
with
you
all,
but
just
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
effort
on
what
to
expect
and
some
opportunities
to
get
involved
next
week.
H
Okay,
so
the
planning
effort
is
called
the
Charleston
Peninsula,
our
community,
our
future,
our
plan
and
you're
not
seeing
my
presentation
screen.
Are
you.
H
Okay,
sorry,
it's
all
messed
up
on
my
screens,
but
as
long
as
you
can
see
it,
that's
good.
So
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
note
that
we
prior
to
launching
the
effort,
our
Outreach
Consultants,
a
Seco
group,
that's
the
tika
Robinson
and
Radia
Baxter
they're,
both
local.
They
hosted
some
focus
groups,
branding
focus
groups
to
help
inform
you
know
the
look
The
feel
the
name
of
this
planning
effort.
We
wanted
to
be
really
intentional
about.
H
You
know
the
invitation
and
tone
that
we
are
setting,
as
well
as
the
look
and
feel
of
the
planning
effort
we
wanted
to
get
away
from.
You
know
things
that
feel
a
little
bit
more
sort
of
bureaucratic.
H
You
know
done
by
planners
and
engineers
and
not
by
the
community.
We
wanted
this
to
have
more
of
a
community
feel
and
also
representative
of
the
diversity
historically
in
the
peninsula
and
what
we
want
to
promote
and
encourage
in
the
future
as
well.
So
this
this
name
and
the
look
came
out
of
those
focus
groups
and
we're
really
excited
about
what
came
out
of
that,
and
we
like
it
much
more
than
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
probably
could
have
come
up
with
ourselves.
H
So
the
peninsula
plan
is
going
to
be
a
guiding
vision
for
the
future
of
the
Charleston
Peninsula
over
the
next
10
to
20
years.
So
this
isn't.
This
is
replacing
what
we
have
now
for
the
Charleston
Peninsula,
which
is
the
1999
downtown
plan.
It's
you
know.
Well
it's
high
time
to
to
update
that,
and
also
the
1990
1999
downtown
plan
is
not
cover
all
of
the
Charleston
Peninsula.
So
this
plan
will
be
replacing
that
one
and
we'll
look
at
the
whole
Charleston
Peninsula,
at
least
that
in
the
city
limits.
H
So
it
stops
right
after
Rosemont
before
Union,
Heights
and
The
Horizon,
for
this
is
10
to
20
years.
We're
going
to
be
looking
at
everything.
This
will
be
a
very
design
focus.
H
A
lot
of
the
outputs
of
this
planning
process
will
be
design
specific
recommendations,
but
there
may
also
be
some
programmatic
and
policy
recommendations
that
come
out
of
this
and
we're
going
we're
we're,
leaving
open
we're,
leaving
the
space
open
for
any
kinds
of
conversation
and
discussion
that
folks
want
to
bring,
but
the
focus
areas
that
we've
used
to
at
least
scope,
the
consultant
team
is
are
include:
neighborhood
design,
Mobility,
water
and
economic
development.
So
we,
the
staff,
did
some
preliminary
analysis
last
year
just
to
get
our
heads
around.
H
You
know
what
capacity
and
expertise
do
we
really
need
to
support
this
process,
and
so
the
consultant
team
that
we
have
are
really
strong
in
terms
of
neighborhood
design,
Mobility,
water
and
economic
development,
the
opportunities
next
week
the
launch
is
official
kickoff
of
the
planning
effort
is
next
week
and
the
invitation
to
the
great
The
Wider
public
and
you
all,
of
course,
are
two
Community
open
houses.
These
will
be
held
on
Tuesday
evening
six
to
nine
pm
and
then
Thursday
morning,
9
to
12
people
can
come
to
one
or
both
they
can
come
for.
H
So
you
know
understanding
that
we,
you
know
folks,
may
not
be
able
to
get
child
care.
It'll
be
set
up
like
a
with
different
stations
in
the
room.
There'll
be
interactive
posters.
The
Consultants
will
be
there
at
the
different
stations
to
have
one-on-one
dialogue
with
folks
that
come,
and
the
goal
of
this
is
really
just
to
listen,
learn
from
resonance
and
and
hear
their
concerns
priorities,
insights,
ideas
for
the
future
of
the
peninsula.
H
And
then
I'll,
just
you
know,
make
a
note.
I
don't
have
a
slide
on
this,
but
just
for
you
all,
you
all
should
have
also
received
an
invitation
to
some
smaller
group
workshops,
and
these
are
not
open
for
the
wider
public
due
to
space
limitations.
But
we
do
have
some
small
group
workshops
taking
place
next
week
as
well,
and
all
of
you
have
received
an
invitation
to
those
those
will
be
around
the
same
Focus
areas
with
the
consultant
teams.
H
But
those
will
be
small
group
discussions
slightly
different
format
and
we
hope
that
you'll
be
able
to
be
present
for
one
or
both
of
those.
E
Chloe,
it's
Carol.
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
being
there
or
whatever
day
I
signed
up
for
and
I
I
was
just
wondering
is:
is
there
going
to
be
like
sort
of
an
overview
of
what's
already
been
worked
on
by
the
preliminary
process,
or
do
we
start
fresh
and
then
you're
going
to
weave
those
things
together
or
how?
How
will
that
sort
of
turn
out
to
be
seamless
right.
H
So
this
really
is
the
start
of
it
that
preliminary
analysis
and
I
mentioned
that
staff
has
done
is
more
so
just
to
sort
of
make
sure
we
are
prioritizing
our
resources
to
get
the
skill
set
that
we
needed
and
to
you
know,
get
a
sense
of
where
on
the
peninsula
might
we
need
to
focus
more
just
given
where
we
know
there
are
gaps
in
previous
plans,
and
so,
but
we
also
know
that
we
probably
missed
some
things,
and
so
this
really
is
going
to
be
opening
up
for
the
community
to
identify
where
those
areas
of
highest
priority
of
concern
and
then
driving
what
ends
up
ultimately
being
the
focus
focus
points
in
the
peninsula
plan.
E
H
Well,
I
can
say
at
least
how
we
as
planners
use
plans
we
we
keep
them
on
our
desks
and
we
reference
them
often
so
when
any
kind
of
development
proposals
are
coming
to
our
desk
in
terms
of
applications
being
submitted
for
development
review,
we're
looking
at
those
plans
to
to
guide
what
our
responses
are
recommendations.
We
look
at
that
Vision
that
the
community
has
articulated
for
a
certain
area
and
we
try
and
shape
our
responses
recommendations.
H
D
Chloe
two
two
questions:
you
shared
with
me
in
our
conversation
that
these
public
meetings
and
forums
that
you
described
are
just
portion
of
the
Outreach
going
on
to
make
certain
that
stakeholders
and
Community
people
are
involved.
Can
you
describe
a
little
bit
what
else
you're
doing
besides
these,
these
meetings
absolutely.
H
Yes,
so
this
will
just
be
the
kickoff
week
just
to
get
you
know,
get
the
word
out
about
the
peninsula
plan.
I
introduce
the
community
to
the
planning
effort,
start
to
get
some
of
those
preliminary
ideas,
but
there
will
be
many
more
opportunities
following
this,
and
our
Outreach
Consultants,
along
with
some
staff,
will
be
doing
some
sort
of
pop-up
style
events
going
to
community
spaces
tagging,
along
with
other
community
events
already
taking
place.
H
So
I
you,
if
you
all,
are
connected
with
community
events,
and
you
think
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
have
some
of
our
team
present
to
our
gather
some
more
input
and
ideas
from
Folks.
At
those
events,
we'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
partnership,
so
we
want
to
really
try
and
get
out
into
the
community
and
not
rely
entirely
on
inviting
folks
to
come
to
us
at
these
more
formal
meeting
type
events.
D
And
thank
you
one
more
question.
Monday
night
or
Tuesday
night
at
the
city
council
meeting,
there
was
a
presentation
of
the
water
plan.
D
H
With
the
city
plan
yeah,
so
the
city
plan
you
know,
goes
as
far
as
providing
some
land
use
recommendations.
Just
general
land
use
recommendations
for
the
peninsula.
This
plan
is
going
to
get
into
a
lot
more
detail
and
actually
look
into
design
recommendations,
design
Frameworks
for
certain
parts
of
the
peninsula,
especially
those
that
are
sort
of
most
in
evolution
right
now.
H
So
it
may
be
helpful
just
to
say
a
little
bit
more
about
the
different
focused
topics
that
we've
uplifted
so
neighborhood
design,
Mobility
water
and
economic
development.
So
I'll
maybe
share
a
little
bit
more
about
each
of
those
why
we
chose
those
and
how
it'll
tie
in
with
these
other
plans
so
for
neighborhood,
Design
This
is
looking
at
you
know,
architecture,
block
layout,
the
feel
and
look
of
streets
different
housing
types.
H
So
this
is
the
sort
of
the
physical
implementation
of
a
lot
of
these
priorities
and
values
that
the
whole
Community
holds
so
I'll
give
an
example,
you'll
notice
that
housing
is
not
one
of
the
priorities.
It's
not
because
we
you
know,
are
not
looking
at
housing
for
the
peninsula.
We
know
it's
a
priority.
It's
that
we
already
have
two
really
strong
plans
with
a
bunch
of
recommendations
of
how
we
tackle
the
affordable
housing
crisis
and
the
neighborhood
design
component
of
the
peninsula
plan
is
going
to
look
at.
What
does
that
look
like?
H
So
when
we
need,
we
know
we
need
to
increase
Housing
Opportunity
on
the
peninsula
for
all
income
levels.
What
does
that
actually
look
like,
so
where
can
we
encourage
more
housing
and
what
what
housing
types?
Does
that
look
like?
What
configuration
does
that
look
like?
How
do
we
incorporate
open
space?
What
is
that
neighborhood
and
that
surrounding
environment?
H
Look
like
so
that's
what
that
topic
is
going
to
focus
on
and
in
terms
of
how
that
fits
in
with
the
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit
project
the
low
line,
it's
going
to
look
at
the
neighborhoods
surrounding
those,
so
they,
the
Transit,
the
Lowcountry
Rapid
Transit
project,
probably
spoke
about
the
transit
or
Transit
oriented
development
study
that
they're
working
on
we've
been
working
closely
with
their
team
on
that
and
we're
going
to
be,
you
know,
studying
their
recommendations
and
how
we
can
incorporate
that
into
the
peninsula
plan
and
that's
looking
at
what
does
the
development
pattern
and
the
design
types
need
to
be
surrounding
that
Transit
Corridor,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
that
as
well
for
Mobility.
H
We
know
that
connectivity
is
a
huge
priority
for
a
lot
of
peninsula
residents
and
visitors
having
safer
streets
for
those
who
are
not
in
a
vehicle
is,
is
really
critical,
and
so
the
mobility
focus
of
the
peninsula
plan
is
going
to
look
at.
How
do
we
make
the
best
use
of
our
streets?
How
do
we
support
people
to
get
around
safely?
H
You
know
by
foot
by
bike
by
other
methods
wheelchair
by
you
know,
Transit.
How
do
we
help
support
Transit
and
make
it
easy
to
access
Transit
safe
to
access
Transit,
so
we'll
be
looking
at?
You
know,
studying
streets
closely
and
key
intersections,
and
things
like
that,
of
course,
that
will
be
tying
into
the
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit
project
and
also
the
downtown
Transit
study.
That's
happening
right
now
as
well
for
the
water
element.
We
know
that
the
landscape
of
the
peninsula
is
changing.
We're
experiencing
frequent
flooding.
H
How
do
we
best
Leverage
The
Waterfront
for
any
future
Redevelopment
opportunities
along
the
water
Waterfront?
What
should
that
look
and
feel
like,
so
those
are
going
to
be
some
of
those
conversations
and
then
finally
Economic
Development
we've.
You
know
heard
loud
and
clear
through
numerous
planning
processes,
that
residents
really
want
the
economy
and
business
business
environment
on
the
peninsula
to
feel
like
it's
for
residents
and
not
just
for
for
tourists,
and
so
how
can
we
encourage
a
really
Equitable
resilient
economy
on
the
peninsula?
What
does
that
look
like?
H
How
do
we
bring
back
minority-owned
businesses
on
the
peninsula,
exploring
ideas
like
the
Renaissance
District
that
came
up
in
the
union
peer
conversation,
so
we're
looking
at
all
of
these
things,
doing
a
study
on
affordability
of
commercial
spaces
and
gaps
for
local
business
owners
and
minority
minority
business
owners,
and
how
can
we
support
them
in
the
future
and
have
a
thriving,
diverse
business
community
on
the
peninsula,
going
forward.
C
D
I
Ahead,
excuse
me:
what
is
the
timeline
that
you're
looking
at
for
the
evolution
of
this
plan.
H
We
expect
it
to
be
about
18
months,
possibly
up
to
two
years,
but
we're
it's.
It's
it's
in
flux,
and
this
is
just
the
start.
So
this
will
the
sort
of
listening
learning
phase
will
probably
take
place
over
a
few
months
and
then
we'll
start
developing
some
draft
recommendations
for
folks
to
respond
to
so
but
yeah.
It's
all
in
flux,
I,
would
say
a
year
is
probably
not
realistic.
H
D
So
Chloe
in
your
design,
discussion,
I,
didn't
hear
you
mention
considerations
of
Public
Safety,
related
design.
D
Height
of
shrubs
and
things
and
things
of
that
nature,
site
Vision.
Will
that
be
a
part
of
the
consideration
and
will
the
police
department
and
neighborhood
Public
Safety
groups
be
involved.
H
Absolutely
yes,
so
the
Public
Safety
is
definitely
a
part
of
that
and
we
have
invited
representative
from
CPD
to
be
part
of
those
smaller
group
workshops
to
provide
exactly
that
level
of
perspective.
H
D
Just
my
my
a
quick
observation,
because
we
very
often
as
planners
don't
articulate
the
way
in
which
we
lay
things
out
could
have
an
effect
on
the
actual
safety
or
the
perception
of
safety
and
I.
Think
if
in
articulating
and
encouraging
people
to
come
out
and
talk
about
those
kinds
of
things,
it
would
be
helpful
as
part
of
the
process
and
no
I.
Don't
have
anybody
particularly
in
mind
but
I
just
think.
It's
a
good
idea.
H
G
Absolutely
I:
don't
this
is
phonic
Leland
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
someone
involved
with
the
city,
Horticulture
Department
I
think
they
would
be
really
important.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
times
governments
tend
to
think
of
water
problems,
as
you
know,
putting
water
in
pipes
and
sending
it
out,
but
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
done
with
flood
mitigation
with
plantings,
and
the
advantage
at
the
same
time
is
that
you're,
sequestering
carbon
in
the
ground
and
potentially
growing
food,
so
I
would
urge
you
to
ask
those
people
to
be
involved
as
well.
G
H
That
would
be
within
our
parks
department
and
they
are
invited
at
the
table
and
also
that
exactly
what
you
talked
about,
you
know
Green
infrastructure,
and
how
do
we
incorporate
that
into
in
terms
of
our
water
management?
That's
been
a
big
item
of
conversation,
I
know
with
the
water
plan,
and
so
we,
of
course,
would
want
to
support
any
recommendations
that
come
out
of
that
related
related
to
Green
infrastructure
in
the
peninsula
plan.
J
H
I'm,
sorry,
your
audio
is
breaking
up
and
I
did
not
hear
your
question.
C
E
H
So
the
that
one's
a
they're
not
going
to
have
as
much
of
a
direct
relationship
as
some
of
the
other
plans
that
you
know
are
focused
on
the
peninsula
or
have
you
know
include
the
peninsula.
The
West
Ashley
plan
is
for
West
Ashley.
This
plan
will
be
for
the
Charleston
Peninsula,
so
it's
it's
really
going
to
be
Peninsula
Focus.
H
However,
you
know
in
terms
of
the
mobility
you
know,
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
is
those
connection
points
with
other
parts
of
the
city
and
knowing
that
people,
typically
when
going
from
one
part
of
the
city
to
another
byway
Bridge
a
lot
of
times
they
pass
through
the
peninsula
and
so
I
think
what
will
come
up
a
lot
in
terms
of
connecting
with
other
plans
in
other
parts
of
the
city
is
going
to
be
in
that
Mobility.
Those
Mobility
conversations.
D
A
Questions
I
have
just
a
comment
or
a
brief
comment.
Chloe.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
taking
the
time
at
five
six
o'clock
on
Thursday
night.
For
us
this
is
just
more
of
a
general
kind
of
just
observation
of
of
our
work
and
and
I
think
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
some
of
the
other
Commissioners,
but
as
a
council
member,
it
seems
like
we
have
a
lot
of
plans.
A
All
right-
and
maybe
that
was
Carol's
question
is
how
are
all
these
plans
gonna
dovetail
into,
like
One
Singular
effort
and
by
comment
was
going
to
Simply
Be
that
you
know
I
feel
like
our
work,
as
a
commission
was
vilified
quite
often
early
on,
but
the
more
we
have
these
conversations,
the
more
we
have
folks
like
yourself,
come
to
these
meetings.
It's
clear
to
me
that
the
Nexus
of
like
good
government
policy
with
our
with
our
work
is,
is
it's
it's
real
I
mean
it's
it's
there.
It's
it's
not
controversial.
A
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
for
your
work
and
thank
you
for
presenting
to
us
tonight.
Yeah.
H
A
lot
of
we
already
have
a
lot
of
plans
and
there's
a
lot
of
concurrent
planning
efforts
taking
place,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
really
want
to
try
and
do
with
this
effort
is
create
a
a
place
for
all
of
them
to
sort
of
come
together
into
a
holistic
vision
for
the
Charleston
Peninsula.
So
these
other
plans
have
a
very
you
know:
either
it's
a
very
specific
topic
or
very
specific
scope
like
it's
primarily
engineering
or
it's.
H
You
know
primarily
looking
at
water
resilience
or
primarily
looking
at
this
one
Corridor
for
Transit,
but
we
want
to
bring
all
of
that
together,
tie
it
together
and
make
sure
you
know
it
does
have
that
shared
holistic
vision
for
the
peninsula.
So
we
have
one
to
kind
of
bind
them
all.
I
Chloe,
yeah
and
I
just
have
a
comment
sort
of
along
the
lines.
What
you
were
acknowledging
Jason
and
this
sort
of
gosh
Jerry
to
the
phone
conversation
that
we
had
is
somebody
you
know
still
trying
to
find
my
footing
on
this
commission
who's,
not
part
of
city
government,
there's,
there's
so
many
entities,
so
many
things
put
in
front
of
us
and
it's
it's
sometimes
hard
to
know
so
all
right.
If
all
these
plans
get
put
into
one
plan,
then
how
does
that
actually
come
to
fruition?
I
A
Essentially,
we'll
come
to
Council
on
the
mayor,
for
for
about
okay
and
I.
Would
Echo
Adams
concerns
or
comments
that
it
is
difficult.
You
know
to
keep
all
these
plans
active
to
try
to
put
them
into
one
like
space
and
hopefully
Chloe
that
they
they
don't
become
competing
plans
right.
They
make
the
goal
is
that
they
they
complement
each
other,
but
it
is
difficult
to
like
figure
out
where
we're
headed.
But
what
are
you
laughing
at
where
we're
headed
when
you've
got
all
these
plans?
Yeah.
D
And
it's
important,
particularly
because
of
our
charge
and
the
city's
master
plan.
The
section
index
deals
with
equity
and
resilience
where
the
discussion
about
the
equity
lens
and
the
questions
that
have
to
be
asked
in
terms
of
Who's
involved
who's
being
impacted,
is
it
adverse
or
not,
for
that
population?
Is
it
making
things
better
or
worse,
whatever
we're
deciding
to
do,
and
that
set
of
questions
need
to
be
asked
on
a
regular
basis,
and
we,
our
job
part
of
our
job,
is
to
make
certain
that
those
questions
are
raised.
D
E
I
I
I
agree
with
what
you
just
said:
I
was
going
to
say,
similar
I
mean
in
in
some
respects.
Our
job
is
easy
because
we
have
one
theme
to
be.
You
know
putting
forward
to
to
the
council
the
public
to
ourselves
and
that's
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
track
and
sight
of
our
Equity
goals
for
our
our
community.
E
A
A
We
are
going
to
transition
to
the
last
part
of
the
meeting,
which
is
a
good
segue
when
we're
talking
about
kind
of
what
our
next
step
is.
As
a
commission-
and
you
know,
in
full
transparency,
just
you
know,
I've
had
several
conversations
with
councilman
Bowden
councilman
seekings
I
wasn't
on
the
call
with
Adam
and
Jerry,
but
I'm
suspecting.
It
was
probably
a
very
similar
conversation
in
regards
to
you
know
how
how
do
we
use
our
time
most
effectively
as
a
commission
and
individually?
Why
are
we
here?
A
What
are
we
doing
so
for
me?
It's
it
for
me.
It's
it.
It
seems
clear,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
sharing
my
thoughts
with
you
all
and
then
we
can
have
a
conversation,
but
you
know:
we've
had
a
year
at
this,
where
we've
been
coming
to
meetings
we've
had
a
year
to
digest
to
a
certain
degree.
The
the
special
commission
report
understand
the
process,
understand
how
we
got
to
this
place,
and
each
of
us
has
contributed
in
many
ways
to
to
getting.
A
To
this
point,
point
Bonnie,
a
member
you,
you
took
some
of
our
notes
and
and
and
kind
of
digitized
them
had
some
input
feedback
from
us
that
that
helped
we've
had
our
good
stack.
A
Consulting
we've
had
several
great
conversations
here
as
a
team,
so
I
think
we're
at
a
place
now,
where
the
the
content,
knowledge
of
the
content
is,
is
I
would
say
sufficient
and
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
start
thinking
about
how
to
to
move
some
of
our
discussions
from
Theory
to
action
and
that's
the
conversation
I've
had
with
councilman
seekings
and
councilman
Bowden,
particularly
around.
When
are
we
going
to
see
some
things
on
our
desk
and
that,
for
me,
is,
is
and
Carol
have
had
that
conversation
with
Carol?
A
You
know
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
mayoral
election.
It
is
September.
We
move
very
slow,
but
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
start
thinking
about
looking
at
the
special
commission
report
or
any
other
recommendations
that
you've
had
come
to
your
thoughts.
Over
the
past
year,
Adrian
sent
out
an
email
on
September
6th,
with
the
link
to
the
report.
A
I'm
asking
you
all
to
think
about
a
few
recommendations
that
we
can
discuss
so
I
I
would
like
to
to
recommend
that
we
use
some
of
this
meeting
in
the
next
meeting
is
really
a
workshop
and,
let's
Workshop
some
of
these
recommendations
and
think
about
what
they
can
look
like.
We've
got
our
general
representative
from
general
counsel.
Here
we
want
to
get
them
to
work.
A
We
want
to
start
getting
them
to
think
about
how
we
craft
ordinances,
based
on
the
special
commission
report,
based
on
some
of
the
thoughts
that
we've
had
this
year,
where
we
see
some
disconnects.
So
that's
where
I'm
at
as
a
as
a
commissioner.
That's
where
I'm
at
as
a
outgoing
city
council
member
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
when
I
leave
off
Council
I'll
still
be
here
as
a
commissioner
that
we've
built
something
that
is
sustainable.
We've
been
we're
getting
to
a
place
where
we're
actually
affecting
change
and
I.
A
Think
for
me
personally,
I'm,
just
speaking
from
a
personal
standpoint,
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
challenge
knowing
why
we're
here
when
we
come
meet
once
a
month
and
what
we're
doing
when
we
leave
and
I
think
it's
been
a
challenge
for
all
of
us,
but
I
wanna
I
want
us
to
work
to
distill
that
and
kind
of
focus
on
less,
because
the
other
challenge
I
think
we
have
is
a
bandwidth
issue.
A
Jerry
and
I
met
with
Adrian.
Last
week
we
meet
with
with
Adrian.
Is
it
weekly
or
bi-weekly?
It
seems
like
it's
every
day,
but
it's
bi-weekly
to
talk
about
what
her
is
on
her
plate.
So
she's
got
a
lot
on
her
play.
She's
been
working
a
lot
with
external
Partners,
so
this
is
just
one
portion
of
portfolio
portion
of
her
portfolio,
but
we're
pushing
to
make
sure
that
she
can
build
capacity,
and
that
could
be.
A
One
of
our
recommendations
is
how
to
best
utilize,
her
Services,
maybe
work
with
Ruth
Jordan
and
women
minority-owned
business.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
build
their
capacity
and
build
Adrian's
capacity
because
she
is
a
one-person
operation?
G
As
I
was
thinking
about,
you
know,
if
I
were
going
to
pick
just
a
few
recommendations
to
put
forward
I
had
a
hard
time
with
that,
but
I
started
thinking
as
a
psychologist
about
Maslow's
hierarchy
of
needs
and
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
most
essential,
and
so
you
know
the
the
base
of
that
pyramid
is
things
like
physiological
needs,
food,
shelter
and
housing
and
safety,
and
so
I
thought
that
might
be
a
good
framework
to
start
thinking
about
these
issues
and
when
I
think
about
safety.
G
One
of
the
first
things
I
think
about
in
terms
of
the
peninsula
is
flooding
and
hurricanes
and
that
I
think,
especially
when
there
are
disasters
and
crises.
G
G
G
And
so
the
the
two
thoughts
in
my
head
had
to
do
with
a
way
to
create
really
beautiful
spaces,
with
food
growing
for
the
community
places
that
are
safe.
G
That
might
serve
as
shelters
but
also
as
meeting
places
slash
community
centers
and
that,
instead
of
doing
what
we
normally
do,
which
is
starting
with
the
wealthiest
most
connected
neighborhoods
to
create
that
kind
of
beauty
and
functionality
that
we
start
with
the
least
advantaged
neighborhoods
and
so
I'm
envisioning
a
community
center
and
some
office
spaces
that
people
can
share
and
meeting
spaces
for
the
community
to
get
together
and
park
space
around
it.
G
So
that
people
can
exercise
and
lots
of
native
plantings
so
that
Roots
absorb
flood
water
instead
of
taking
dirty
flood
water
and
pumping
it
out
into
the
ocean.
And
so
I
just
want
you
to
think
about
that.
That
visual
of
a
beautiful
space
and
a
lovely
community
in
the
places
that
don't
normally
get
that
from
government.
A
Thank
you
Bonnie
for
those,
so
I'm
I'm
taking
notes.
So
maybe
some
sort
of
formal
post-disaster
plan
specifically
focused
on
addressing
some
of
the
equity
issues
that
that
enemy
could
use
Hugo,
as
probably
an
example
of
what
it
was
like.
I
wasn't
here,
but
I'm
sure
there
are
folks
that
were,
and
then
second
part
of
that
was
some
sort
of
combination,
Park
Community,
Garden,
Community
Center
in
a
in
a
in
a
less
advantaged,
neighborhood
or
part
of
our
city.
A
A
Thank
you
for
those
anyone
else.
Yeah.
I
I
mean
I
can
piggyback
on
that,
because
I
too
included
flood
flooding
as
a
concern.
This.
This
long-term
goal
of
prioritizing
flood
mitigation
strategies
that
address
racial
equity
and
environmental
justice
and
flooding
in
the
city
is
already
atrocious
and-
and
it's
just
going
to
get
worse
in
the
coming
decades
and
the
first
people
to
feel
the
brunt
of
that
are
going
to
be.
I
I
I
was
also
struggling
to
prioritize
many
of
the
goals
in
here,
but
thinking
about
the
hierarchy
of
needs,
I
mean
my
eye,
certainly
on
the
economic
front,
came
to
the
goal
of
reducing
the
black
income
poverty
rate
by
10
percent
over
10
years
and
increasing
black
assets
by
20
over
20
years,
although,
admittedly
and
I
think
this
is
where
maybe
political
realities
come
into
play
because
Jason
I
heard
you
talk
about
how
the
original
commission
was
vilified.
I
I,
look
at
the
strategy
for
that
long-term
goal
in
this
plan
and
its
reparations,
which
I
personally
would
be
in
favor
of
us.
Trying
to
creatively
look
at
but
I
wonder
practically
whether
that's
a
a
political,
lightning
rod,
yeah.
G
C
A
C
A
To
we
had
to
word
Smith
this,
because
I
think
that
the
challenge
is
first
defining
the
term
and
I.
Think
folks
in
the
community
do
not
understand
fully
understand
all
the
different
definitions.
So
there's
cache
operations
I
believe
Evanston
Illinois
was.
It
was
a
community
that
implemented
cache
operations
but
Asheville
North
Carolina
Nashville
too
yeah
yeah.
E
A
E
B
Not
always
a
cash
payment,
but
it
could
be
just
different
policies
and
you
know
laws
that
are
put
into
place,
or
you
know
something
of
that
nature
that
can
help
repair
the
damage.
So,
yes,
we
can
absolutely
talk
about
reparations.
B
B
If
those
gaps
didn't
exist,
then
you
know
we
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
be
reactive
and
people
have
the
the
like
resources
that
they
need
in
order
to
properly
respond
to
hurricane
or
whatever
so
I'm
of
the
mindset
of.
If
we're
not
talking
about
the
money,
then
why
are
we
here?
So
I
mean
safety?
I
mean
crime
is
a
direct.
It's
money,
it's
Economic
Opportunity.
B
Yes,
you
do
have
some
folks
out
there
that
that
are
just
violent
by
nature,
but
a
lot
of
times
just
like
after
a
flood
people
are
just
trying
to
survive.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
as
well.
For
me,
I
would
like
to
see
us
get
involved
and
be
proactive
on
some
of
the
issues
that
that
you
know
most
folks
may
hear
for
the
first
time
at
Council
right
so,
for
example,
Union
Pier
and
the
various
opportunities
that
exist
there.
B
When
we're
talking
about
a
black
Renaissance
district.
There
are
so
many
of
the
recommendations
that
are
listed
on
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
that
could
be
addressed
in
that
space.
D
B
That
can
not
only
benefit
the
folks
of
that
that,
on
that
property,
but
some
of
the
folks
that
live
in
some
of
these
areas
that
could
potentially
be
connected
to
help
solve
some
of
those
flooding
issues
so
having
a
seat
at
the
table.
How
do
we
get
a
seat
at
these
different
tables
so
that
we
can
be
proactive
as
opposed
to
being
reactive,
so
so
yeah?
For
me,
it's
it's
it's.
How
do
we
get
involved?
B
Not
just
more
so
in
just
this
space,
but
but
how
do
we
get
at
some
of
those
tables
to
be
able
to
be
a
a
representative
of
hark
half
of
the
City
of
Charleston
to
ensure
that
that
Equity
lens
exists
in
that
space?
In
those
conversations?
B
So
it's
it's
like
I
guess
for
me,
since
I
mentioned
the
union
peer
project,
I
would
really
be
interested
in
being
part
of
that
conversation.
B
If
it's
okay
with
the
group
so
I
understand
that
we
we
did
say
that
whenever
we
do
speak
on
certain
topic,
so
we're
in
certain
spaces.
We
don't
necessarily
speak
on
behalf
of
heart,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
how
how
that
would
work,
even
but
for
for
the
individual,
was
kind
of
sort
of
figure
out
where
your
heart
is
right
and
then
get
involved
in
those
spaces
and
figure
out
how
you
can
have
a
voice
in
those
areas.
Speaking
from
an
equity
lens.
D
Just
really
quickly
in
terms
of
the
Union
peers.
Specifically,
there
is
a
process
underway,
an
advisory
committee
that
the
Riley
Center
is
coordinating.
It
would
if
Alvin,
is
willing
all
right
if
we
suggested
today
that
they
add
him
to
The
Advisory
body
representing
the
kind
of
concerns
we
have.
D
That
will
be
a
way
for
us
to
be
smart
about,
what's
going
on,
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
and
that
is
only
advisory
as
well
right,
they're,
not
decision
making,
but
it's
a
way
for
our
voice
to
be
heard
and
for
us
to
know.
What's
going
on
without
each
of
us
being
convenient.
So
I
would
urge
us
to
consider
that.
A
Thanks
Jerry
I'm,
actually
meeting
with
Kendra
Stewart
tomorrow,
so
I
think
it's
a
good,
segue
and
I
think
to
elven's
point
I.
Think
tonight's
exercise,
which
will
culminate
you
know.
A
A
K
A
Sorry
Carol
did
you
have
your
hand
up,
because
it's
still
up
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
wanted
to
talk?
Yes,
okay,
go
ahead.
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
Jason
I
can
hear
you
but
you're
breaking
up
just
a
tad.
A
You
might
want
to
try
shutting
off
your
video
and
keeping
your
audio
on
that
might
help.
J
Okay,
yes
well,
I
just
wanted
I
like
Adam
and
Bonnie
I
wanted
to
pitch
in
and
say,
I
had
a
difficult
time
with
this
too,
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
had
some
recommendations
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
have
discussion
about
how
we
set
priorities,
and
you
know
obviously
for
the
remainder
of
2023
and
then
for
2024,
because
you
know
I
think
that's
really
important.
J
Quite
honestly,
I'm
coming
at
this.
From
the
background
of
an
engineer
where
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
have
measurements,
you
know,
and
you
get
a
measurement
by
saying:
okay,
what's
really
important,
the
number
of
people
assisted,
Financial
Financial,
fit
these
required
discussions,
assumptions
about
things
that
you
can
do,
but
to
me
there's
those
kinds
of
discussions
are
needed
if
the
point
for
setting
up
the
the
priorities,
so
I
just
wanted
to
agree
with
Adam
and
Bonnie
and
probably
others
that
it's
a
difficult
thing
to
do.
J
A
And
I
heard
you
loud
and
well,
I
didn't
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
I
heard
you
loud,
but
not
so
clear.
Carol
on
that
one.
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
I
I
would
agree
that
we
need
to
prioritize,
but
we
gotta,
we
gotta,
take
a
kind
of
gotta
kind
of
have
to
jump
off
the
curb
here.
A
As
a
group
we
can
keep
talking
about
priorities,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
helpful
for
us
to
look
at
the
previous
report
and
basically
take
everything
that
we've
heard
and
talked
about
throughout
the
year
as
Commissioners
and
start
adding
and
putting
that
on
a
list
at
that
point.
I
do
I
do
agree
once
all
those
recommendations
are
up
there.
I
think
it's
to
your
point.
How
do
we
prioritize
that
list?
What
criteria
are
we
using,
but
I
first
want
to
get
started
with
just
coming
up
with
a
list
of
sorts.
E
Yeah
I
I,
agree:
I
think
we
need
to
have
I
mean
I.
You.
J
Yes
well,
my
first
one
was
under
the
form.
J
It
talked
about
reducing
trials
and
absence
in
criminal
cases
and
requiring
follow-up
by
staff
where
notice
of
court
dates
are
returned
as
undelivered
criminal.
So.
J
So
it's
one,
you
know
what
he's
talking
about
number
two
under
housing,
Mobility
create
new,
Partnerships
and
I
think
we
should
hone
in
on
assisting
those
with
air
property
disputes,
clearing
title
repairing
homes
and
navigating
the
legal
system
in
an
effort
to
maximize
property
value,
and
basically
the
recommendation
was
to
identify
and
negotiate
Partnerships
with
Community
programs
like
Center
for
air
property
preservation,
Charleston
pro
bono
and
the
Charleston
County
bar.
So
those
were
the
two
that
I
would
pick,
but
I
also
included
two
more.
J
Because,
as
an
example,
you
know
I
used
the
report
s-c-e-I-r
report,
but
you
know
what
it
if
I
wanted
to
say.
Well,
also,
let's
look
at
the
city
master
plan
10-year
plan,
or
do
we
want
to
look
at
also
the
union
peer
thing.
That's
going
on
I
mean
there's
a
universe
of
things
that
to
choose
from,
and
it's
a
matter
of.
How
are
we,
as
a
group
going
to
decide
as
an
individual?
Let's
see
you
know,
I
can
decide,
but
it
may
be
complete.
A
I
would
agree
Carol
anything
and
everything
is
is
possible,
so
the
the
special
Commission
report
was
just
a
reference
guide,
but
certainly
to
Chloe's
point.
If
you
look
to
the
10-year
plan,
if
you
looked
at
the
union
peer
project,
really
anything
that
you
feel
like
we've
talked
about
this
past
year,
that
has
kind
of
struck
your
fancy,
and
it
sounds
to
me,
like
The,
Heirs
property
resonates
with
you,
some
of
the
criminal
justice
items
in
terms
of
that
reform
resonate
with
you.
If
there's
anything
else,
you
want
to
add
to
that
list.
A
You
certainly
don't
have
to
do
it
today.
We
could
add
that
to
that
list,
but
the
goal
today
was
really
just
to
start,
putting
together
a
short
or
long
list
of
recommendations.
My
my
I
suspect,
Carol
and
the
rest
of
the
Commissioners
that
we're
going
to
see
some
alignment.
Let
me
look
at
this
list.
There's
going
to
be
a
couple
things
that
are
going
to
that
they're
going
to
resonate
with
all
of
us
and
pop
up,
so
that
that
was
the
goal
for,
for
today.
D
E
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
struggled
I
I've
made
notes
on
this
for
so
long
that
I,
you
know
now
now
it's
like,
which
ones
are
the
most
important,
so
I
had
to
go
back
and
review
some
of
those
things
that
I
thought
were
priorities
two
years
ago
and
I
I
know
that
when
I
I
first
tried
to
explain
my
way
of
jumping
on
something
like
this
a
few
months
ago
and
I,
don't
think
I
did
a
good
job,
but
I
I
really
do
think
that
if
we
take
a
look
at
the
things
that
are
are
in
front
of
the
city
and
then
go
back
through
the
Circ
report
and
pick
out
recommendations
that
honor
and
Foster
and
Steward
Equity,
that's
the
point
of
this
report
is
that
we're
going
to
be
filtering
the
plans
that
the
city
keeps
creating
in
a
timely.
E
You
know
real-time
manner,
because
the
conditions
are
presenting
themselves
and
and
then
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
equity
lens
in
place.
As
we
come
back
with.
Okay,
we've
got
Union
Pier,
so
let's
take
Union
Pier
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
going
to
let
go
of
the
opportunities
that
would
exist
for
people
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
that
need
to
get
better
environmental
justice
conditions.
Out
of
that.
E
Councilmember
sacraments
give
give
Grace
to
Legacy
property
owners
that
are
needing
to
go
through
some
sort
of
board
of
Architectural
Review
process
and
because
they
don't
live
in
their
grandparents
house,
but
they
still
own
it
they're.
Not
given
the
opportunity
to
be
even
reviewed
under
that
law,
let
alone
given
some
exclusion
for
wanting
to
do
the
right
thing
with
their
grandparents
property,
they
don't
have
the
money.
So
I
I
want
council
members,
sacraments
bar
amendments
to
be
be
put
into
code
before
he
leaves
office
in
December.
E
I
want
for
the
housing
I
want
us
to
look
at
all
of
the
ways
that
we
can
start
to
create
more
resources.
I
went
to
the
housing
Summit
this
week
and
I
saw
the
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit
game
plan
for
the
third
time
and
what
really
sunk
into
me,
which
jumped
out
at
me
the
first
time
I
think
was
the
in
North
Charleston,
the
the
naturally
occurring
affordable
units
that
are
going
to
be
lost.
E
E
So
we
can't
control
their
zoning,
but
our
city
can
have
a
big
influence
in
what
they
do
with
protecting
those
naturally
occurring
properties,
they're
talking
about
having
an
owner's
fund
for
rehab
and
repair
to
help
stabilize
and
subsidize
the
cost
of
their
housing.
That's
Aging
in
North
Charleston,
along
that
Corridor
I,
want
us
to
work
on
that.
I
want
us
to
increase
our
fee
in
lieu
that
we're
charging
developers
who
don't
want
to
put
in
require
that
they
can't
be
required
to
put
in
inclusion,
Workforce
housing
units
in
any
new
high-rise
property.
E
You
know
that
they
build
that's
state
law.
We
can't
require
that
they
include
Workforce
units,
so
we
get
them
the
opportunity
to
pay
a
fee
in
lieu
of
building
any
units
if
they
want
to
get
the
best
and
highest
density
out
of
a
property,
and
our
fees
are
too
low,
Cog
researched
it
for
themselves,
and
they
said
the
same
thing
so
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
right
there
to
go
to
the
Community
Development
Committee
and
tell
them
it's
time
to
increase
the
fees
that
we're
charging
for
those
units.
E
I
want
us
to
get
serious
about.
Putting
in
some
sort
of
mid,
what's
that
called
what
does
it
stand
for?
Yes,
Municipal
improvement,
district
funding
or
this
act
236
that
was
passed
by
the
state
legislature
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
it
allows
for
developers
to
have
to
pay
fees
in
order
to
put
their
properties
where
they're
putting
them.
E
We
need
that
we
need
those
funds
to
be
able
to
supplement
like
missing
middle
housing
and
much
more
affordable
housing
in
the
boroughs
that
are
now
being
designated
for
High
Ground
development,
which
is
all
of
cane
Hoy.
We
need
to
take
a
field
trip
out
to
cane
Hoy
and
see
how
vast
it
is
and
that's
where
we
have
a
wide
open
opportunity,
a
lot
of
it's
in
Berkeley
County,
but
that's
okay,
the
city's
annexed
it
in,
and
so
we
can
do
that
kind
of
impact
fee
requirement.
E
If
we
call
it
act
236,
if
we
call
it
Municipal
improvement
district,
we
can
put
in
some
sort
of
public
transit
system.
We
could
even
experiment
with
light
rail
out
there
and
we
could.
We
could
get
the
get
the
zoning
identified
for
smaller
plot
lines
and
more
affordable
properties.
As
a
result
of
that,
so
I
I
have
a
lot
of
you
know:
pent-up
passion
over
some
of
these
things
from
housing
and
economic
development
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on.
E
A
Thank
you,
Carol
I
know
we're
getting
short
on
time.
It
is
6
30.,
okay,.
K
Go
ahead:
okay,
first
of
all,
it's
it's
been
like
a
year
and
I've
been
learning
this
new
language
and
and
it's
a
new
subject
for
me,
but
I'm
I'm,
getting
there
one
of
the
things
that
in
the
in
the
last
year
that
that
I've
heard
about-
and
this
gentrification-
and
you
know,
friends
have
told
me
that
you
know
it's
been
going
on
for
50
years
on
the
peninsula.
K
This
gentrification
and
I
I
learned
about
it
in
Cincinnati
and
Charlotte,
where
we
lived
previously
and
now
here
and
what
I
learned
is
in
the
vernacular.
It
means
move
the
black
people
out
and
move
the
white
people
in
and
I
have
come
across.
Something
called
anti-gentrification
and
I
would
like
city
council
to
look
into
anti-gentrification.
K
Because
it's
it's
really
destroying
the
peninsula.
In
my
opinion,
I,
you
all
don't
know
me,
but
and
when
I
got
out
of
college
from
1973
to
1978
I
was
an
assistant,
basketball
coach
at
Cornell,
and
we
had.
My
boss
was
one
of
only
12
head
black
basketball
coaches
in
the
United
States
out
of
two
300
and
I
learned
a
lot
about
race
and
life
in
those
five
years,
both
on
campus
and
as
we
traveled
and
our
our
team
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
K
So
I've
been
involved
with
issues
of
racial
Justice,
my
whole
adult
life
and
at
73
I'm
not
about
to
quit.
So
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
see.
Is
city
council
look
into
what
they
can
do
to
thwart
gentrification
on
the
peninsula?
Tom.
K
K
Yeah,
okay,
yes
ma'am
and
then
somebody
said
at
our
men's
social,
the
other
night
that
there's
very
low
numbers
of
African
Americans
on
the
Charleston
City
Fire,
Department,
I,
I,
don't
know
what
that
means
or
if
it's
factual,
but
that
would
be
something
for
city
council
to
look
into
three
percent
they're.
C
K
And
then
somebody
said
somebody
said
yeah
well
what
about
how's
North
Charleston
doing
it?
How
is
North
Charleston
recruiting,
but
black
men
and
women
to
be
on
the
fire
department,
I.
K
K
Now
I
don't
want
to
embarrass
Charlton,
but
he
has
been
so
great
to
sit
here,
though,
with
us
the
whole
evening.
I
know
that
the
city
kicks
in
for
spoletto
and
other
festivals
right.
How
much
or
do
we
and
do
we
chip
in
for.
C
D
K
This
was
because
it
just
sounds
so
great
everything,
that's
planned,
yes,
sir
I
don't
know
if
I
can
call
on
you
but
yeah.
G
I
promise
to
be
very
quick
with
this
I.
Just
don't
want
tonight's
meeting
to
go
by
without
talking
about
how
important
changing
policing
is
and
creating
equity
and
policing,
and
that
that
should
because
of
Maslow's
hierarchy
of
needs.
Safety
is
really
important
and
our
black
citizens
often
don't
feel
safe
and
they
aren't
safe
from
our
own
city
government
at
times
and
so.
A
D
We
should,
if
it's
completed
when
it's
completed,
the
way
the
selection
of
the
industry.
D
Right
will
have
an
impact
on
how
much
that's
embraced
right.
So
the
the
notion,
it's
work,
that's
in
process
we've
been
we've
made
investment
over
the
past
four
years
and
I
think
it's
something
it's
a
bone
that
needs
to
be
followed
through
on
as
a
priority.
D
It
may
require
less
learning
on
our
part,
okay,
but
it
certainly
needs
to
be
a
priority
tracks.
Remind
them.
I
And
I
assume,
surely
those
questions
will
be
asked
of
the
Police
Chief
candidates
right
yeah.
A
C
But
but
you
never
know
the
the
things
we've
done
so
far
I
think
are
all
tracking
pretty
well,
but
I
think
the
important
thing
is
that
this
group
is
here
and
it's
the
ship
of
state's
going
to
keep
sailing
Whoever
has
got
their
hand
on
that
tiller.
But
as
long
as
we're
saying,
hey
push
this
way
push
this
way.
C
A
Will
say
it's
repressed
for
time
that
the
commitment
from
the
group
and
Commissioners
over
the
past
year
has
been
awesome.
I
feel
like
we're
starting
to
gel,
but
I
feel
like
digging
into
the
work,
is
going
to
make
us
gel
even
more
Jerry.
So.
C
D
We
need
to
address
affordable
housing.
We
should
look
at
our
fee
and
Lou
that
developers
pay
rather
than
develop,
affordable
housing
I
think
you
could
think
the
fee
could
go
up.
I
also
think
we
can
speak
to
benefits
of
best
density
increase
density
and
we
should
consider
higher
buildings
in
exchange
for
more
affordable
housing
to
the
affordable
housing.
Conversation
I
would
add,
because.
C
D
Motivated
by
seeing
the
channel
5
ART
article
about
Gaston,
green
gas
and
green
is
one
of
the
public
housing
projects.
Jackson
Greene
is
in
the
flood
prone
area.
Gas
and
green
is
one
of
the
housing
public
housing
projects
scheduled
for
the
rad,
the
rad
development.
D
All
those
things
coming
together
right
soon
to
be
to
create
a
possibility
of
a
focus
and
to
Carol's
prize
point
about
creating
priorities.
You
know
one
of
the
things
is
there
something
eminent
right
in
front
of
us
to
are
the
discussions
currently
on
the
way
and
resources
being
moved
around
that
can
make
could
make
a
difference
and
then
can
we
do?
We
know
enough
information
can
be
Advocate
enough
for,
like
those
are
the
kind
of
criteria
I
would
use.
D
My
other
point
would
be
continue
to
follow
the
racial
bias
audit,
the
fire
department.
It's
reported
at
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting
that
it
has
an
rrsp
out
for
a
consultant
to
help
them
with
the
recruitment
of
diversities.
That's
an
example
of
something:
if
any
of
us
know
firms
that
or
do
that
work,
all
right
is
easy
enough
for
us
to
encourage
folks
to
be
engaged
and
involved
in
that.
D
So
that's
again
an
example
of
what's
moving
in
the
real
world
in
an
era
that
we're
concerned
about
and
I
would
again
the
Mojo
restructuring
and
is
important,
but
I
also
would
hold
up.
The
city
is
doing
a
lot
in
the
way
of
or
there's
a
lot
of,
work
going
on
by
groups
in
the
city,
around
burial
grounds,
identification
of
African-American,
burial
grounds
and
Department
report
departures
field
and
all
that
how
that
how
that
works
together,
it
has
some
environmental
issues
associated
with
it.
D
It
has
some
work
associated
with
flooding.
So
in
the
report
special
commission
report,
it
talks
about
looking
at
those
cemeteries
and
those
those
kind
of
situations
as
well
as
well
as
marking
them
and,
and
so
that
again,
is
an
example
of
something
that's
moving
forward.
It's
working
they're
more
outside
groups,
not
City
groups,
working
on
it
and
us
engaging
them
or
encouraging
them
to
encouraging
people
who
are
working
on
things
that
are
important
that
come
to
us
and
say
hey.
This
is
what
we're
thinking
about.
D
So
we
can
then
see
how
it
fits
into
our
agenda
and
to
bring
things
to
fighting
things
in
terms
of
attention.
We
can
be
a
sounding
board
in
some
of
these
areas
as
well.
E
Yeah
can
I
just
say
one
thing:
I
meant
to
give
Bonnie
some
encouragement
for
your
vision
of
you,
know
beautiful
spaces
and
community
centers
and
places
we
don't
usually
expect
them.
I
I
think
that
we
we
need
to
have
and
I
I
hope.
Ruth
Jordan
is
going
to
come
here
soon.
We
need
to
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
city
is.
E
Building
with
the
housing
department,
the
James
Lewis
Apartments.
It
will
be
housing
that
will
be
priced
for
low
and
moderate
income
people
in
a
brand
new
building.
It's
right
near
the
the
housing
authorities,
new
apartment
property
or
newish
apartment
property.
E
You
know,
condo
apartment,
I,
think
no
apartment
apartment,
sorry,
they're
for
rent
anyway,
it's
it's
part
of
a
whole
complex
that
South
Carolina
state
has
a
as
an
office
or
a
student
building
there
it's
a
huge.
It
basically
is
the
footprint
that
was
under
the
Grace
Bridges
and
it
came
to
the
city
from
the
state.
After
a
long
time
of
negotiating
and
waiting
and-
and
we
definitely
have
a
chance
to
make
it
into
that
place
of
you-
know-
a
magnet
Park
attraction.
E
It'll
have
a
micro,
Enterprise
business
center
that
Ruth
Jordan's
office
is,
is
running
or
they're
gonna
set
it
up
and
then
find
a
management
concern
for
taking
it
over
to
make
sure
that
it's
used
at
its
highest
and
best
use
for
minority
and
women-owned
businesses.
So
I
I
think
we
should
put
that
on
our
list
as
a
you
know.
To
make
sure
we
understand
what
they're
doing
and
encourage
the
city
to
maximize
the
opportunity
for
those
properties
that
are
all
all
along
the
Waterfront
there.
C
D
So
I
failed
to
report
out
that
the
first
stop
did
meet
with
the
core
group
on
September
7th,
okay,
good.
D
The
next
meeting
gets
to
be
with
us
and
the
core
group
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
we
do
it
during
the
week,
perhaps
in
a
in
lunch
period
so
and
so
the
Corporal
cracks
in
half
there
losses
grant
them
an
extra
hour.
This
wasn't
two
hours,
so
they
can
meet
with
us
and
we
can
interact
into
our
frame
the
good
side.
People
have
indicated
that
they
are
available
the
last
week
in
September
into
the
first
week
in
October.
It's
a
good
time
for
that.
D
Men
at
bank
report
group
meets
the
first
week
of
the
month.
I
mean
sometime
during
the
first
week
of
the
month.
Okay,
so
when
Adrian
gets
back,
we're
gonna
try
and
push
that
out,
and
it
would
appreciate
rapid
response
back
from
from
the
the
Commissioners
in
terms
of
their
availability
participate
in
that
that
particular
session.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
A
Yes,
that
that's
been
part
of
the
work
like
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
that
you
know
kind
of
building
the
capacity
and
I
would
say
that's
part
of
it.
I
do
want
to
recognize
gentlemen,
I'm
not
sure
of
your
name,
but
you
came
in
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.
But
if
you'd
like
to
say
a
few
words.
L
Okay,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name,
is
lukeman
Rasheed
I
live
at
48,
oh
44,
but
he
doesn't
speak
I'm.
A
councilman
Sacrament
is
my
councilman.
Of
course
he
beat
me
up
on
that
yeah
and
they're
running
four
years
ago.
L
You
know,
let's
see
sentimental
honorable
mansions
That's,
What
I
Call
this
session,
that
I,
what
I've
heard
these
things
have
been
talked
about
over
and
over
again,
and
it's
just
a
spinning
wheel.
You
know
and
justification
preparation,
those
things
you
know.
Where
are
the
people
who's
going
to
receive
reparation
of
their
children?
Generational
children
going
to
receive
what
well
what
kind
of
education
or
what
kind
of
input
will
they
get?
They
don't
have
to
always
be
money
monetary.
L
You
know,
but
you
know
so:
jobs,
education,
schooling,
public,
school
education.
You
know
Etc
Union
Peer,
who
owns
it?
It's
a
city
on
it
or
the
state
on
it.
You
know
what
does
the
state
has
I
mean,
but
does
the
city
really
have
sticks
in
it,
or
is
that
the
city
has
to
bargain
with
this
with
the
state
to
to
be
involved
in
it?
You
know,
let's
see
reparation
and
housing
housing.
L
Again,
it's
just
a
circle.
You
know
so
these
season's
been
going
on
for
years
and
years
and
then
what
happened
for
people
like
me
because
I
you
know,
get
gentrified
on
and
big
development.
You
know.
So
it's
it's!
You
know
it's
it's
sentimental
talk,
but
things
can
be
done
but
I'm,
just
like
you
know,
living
here
in
the
city
since
1970
I'm,
originally
from
James,
Island
and
I
moved
here
when
I
was
about
that
18
18
years
old.
Something
like
that.
So
do
the
math
on
that.
Let's
see.
L
Okay,
the
city
just
did
spent
Millions
on
the
on
the
on
the
flood
issue,
right
there
Cannon
and
Spring
Street.
You
know
what
is
it
that
you
can
do?
You
know
I
mean
you
know,
so
things
are
already
in
motion.
So
what
is
most
important,
you
know,
is
it
African
Americans
are
the?
Are
they
deserved
people
who
practically
they're
gone?
L
You
know
you're
talking
about
the
excuse
me
mention
the
not
you
but
yeah.
C
L
The
Spring
Street,
okay,
Spain
Street
Carter,
that's
African-American,
Corridor,
business,
okay,
it's
it's
vanished,
it's
gone
so
you
know
so
I
had
a
business
there.
You
know.
So
you
know
what's
happening
man,
you
know
what's
happening,
we're
just
spinning
man
and
most
of
these
things.
You
know
it
technically.
It
doesn't
make
sense
except,
except
that
you
know
it's,
you
know
it's
just
rehashing
recharging,
spinning
churning
and-
and
nothing
can
be
done.
You
know,
except
what
is
affordable
housing.
L
You
know
these
things
I've
been
here
before
I
know
these
things
I
understand
these
things.
We
understand
these
things
or
those
of
us
who
lived
in
Charleston
a
long
time
and
you
don't
have
to
live
a
long
time
in
Charleston
to
be
a
city
councilman.
You
know,
but
we
you
understand
how
many
percent
are
here.
L
One
yeah,
okay
yeah,
so
yes,
let's
see
dollars.
What's
that
dollars,
okay,
but
okay,
I
think
I.
Think
I
want
to
talk
to
myself.
Let's
see
but
those
you
know
those
issues
you
know.
So
those
are
sentimentary
issues
and
you
know
what
is
the
reality
behind
them?
What
is
the
reality
behind?
Get
something?
That's
concrete.
That's
reality:
that's
gonna
fit,
but
if
you're
going
to
do
something
for
that
African
African-American
or
the
descendants
of
slaves
I'm
a
Muslim,
you
know
what
I
mean
you
know.
L
We
have
that
beautiful
International,
African-American
Muslim.
Excuse
me
Museum.
L
Yeah,
you
know
Museum,
you
know,
and
you
know
you
know
a
beautiful
thing.
You
know
that's
about
the
best
thing
that
has
fitted
on
this
on
this
peninsula
says
when.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Mr
machine.
Let
me
just
say
this:
we
appreciate
you
coming.
We
do
have
opportunities
at
the
beginning
of
meetings
to
to
talk
and,
if
you're
interested
in
participating,
we
do.
It
certainly
have
opportunities
for
citizens
to
participate
in
the
meeting
and
I
will
just
say
as
a
council
member
and
and
someone
that
lives
in
District,
three
you're
right,
you're
right.
A
How
many
times
have
we
been
talking
about
affordable
housing
or
gentrification
at
city
council
I'm,
not
from
here
I've,
been
here
since
2001,
but
I
reckon
that
you've
been
here
longer
and
you've
heard
these
conversations
over
and
over.
So
that
you
ask
the
question
you
ask
is
point
a
question:
why
are
you
guys
talking
about
this
again
nothing's
going
to
get
done
and
I
will
just
simply
answer
that
question
with
this.
A
This
commission
is
the
structure
to
allow
those
things
to
happen.
There
was
no
structured
previous
to
to
the
council
or
previous
to
this
commission.
So
to
your
point,
you
would
call
up
Mr
Lewis,
councilman,
Lewis
or
councilman
Gregory,
and
they
would
work
to
try
to
get
something
on
on
Council
agenda
and
oftentimes.
The
momentum
wasn't
there
or
priorities
have
changed
this
commission
is
our
charge,
is
to
make
sure
some
of
these
issues
that
you're
talking
about
get
addressed,
they're
all
not
going
to
get
addressed.
We're
not
going
to
fix
everything,
but
I.
A
A
Right,
you're,
absolutely
right
and
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
all
those
things
are
going
to
get
fixed.
That's
not
our
Rock.
We
can't
it
won't
get
done.
I've
been
on
Council
for
four
years.
Carol
was
on
Council
for
four
years.
We've
got
a
lot
of
challenges
in
the
city,
but
at
least
this
commission.
What
we
can
do
is
is
hang
our
head
on
a
few
things
and
try
to
focus
our
efforts
on
a
few.
Our
charge
is
to
figure
out
what
those
few
are.
L
Okay
question
sure:
so
this
meeting,
okay.
A
One
second
Mr
Rasheed
Carol
is
your
hand
up,
or
did
you
not
take
it
down
and
if
you're
still
there.
J
No,
it
was
up
if
I
wanted
to
give
you
I
had
one
additional
I
already
give
you
relative
to
affordable
housing
sure,
and
that
was
that
was
that
we,
you
know,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
the
city's
doing
work
around
for
housing,
but
I
think
an
additional
thing
and
I'm
not
really
quite
sure
how
this
works.
J
But
after
you
get
affordable
housing
you
know
certainly
later
it
seems
to
be
the
issue
that
there's
huge
problems
and
they're
they're
not
getting
the
attention
that
they
need
to
get
to
continue
to
be
livable,
Floyd
Manor
and
the
issues
that
have
happened
there
and
I
realize,
or
at
least
I
believe
somehow
another,
the
city
and
the
county
offloads
that
to
some
third
party.
But
the
reality
of
it
is
the
city
and
the
county
councils
need
to
put
teeth
into
making
sure
the
full
housing
is
livable,
affordable,
housing.
A
That's
a
good
point:
Carol.
We
heard
you
loud
and
clear
on
that
one,
actually,
so
no
no
breaking
up
and
you're
right
that
that
is.
That
is
something
that
we
should
focus
on
Mr
Rasheed
anything
else
before
we
conclude.
Oh.
L
A
But
typically
we
have
it
in
the
beginning,
but
we're
we're
pretty
informal.
So
we
appreciate
your
input
and
if
you
want
to
come
back,
we
meet
the
third
remind
me
second,
second
Thursday
each
month,
so
you're
welcome
back
to
the
next
meeting
at
five
o'clock.
A
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
my
list
because
it
is
seven
o'clock,
but
I
will
say
what
was
on
my
list.
The
nine
items
you
have
all
articulated
those
nine
items.
I
knew.
A
I
had
I
had
nine
that
I
was
like
thinking
about,
but
I
suspected.
What
is
true
like
there's
gonna,
be
some
synergies
here
with
what
we're
going
to
focus
on
and
hopefully
the
next
meeting.
We
can
dig
in
and
Carol
if
you're
still
on,
we'll
dig
down
and
try
to
prioritize
and
use
some
criteria
to
figure
out
what
those
are
and
then
move
forward
with
some
games.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Okay,
great
thanks
a
lot.
Is
there
anything
else
to
come
before
this?
This
evening's
commission
any
questions,
comments,
I,
move
that
we
adjourn.
Oh
second,
meeting
adjourned.