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City of Charleston Human Affairs and Racial Conciliation Commission 7/13/23
A
B
A
502
at
this
time,
we
don't
currently
have
a
quorum,
we're
waiting
for
additional
member
where
we
can
proceed
and
open
with
a
moment
of
silence.
Let
us
reflect
on
the
charge
and
mission
of
the
commission
the
work
to
be
done
and
recommit
ourselves,
as
we
think
in
this
moment
about
the
work
to
be
done
on
behalf
of
the
city.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
individuals
of
the
public
who've
indicated
a
desire
to
present
before
the
body
clerk
is
indicating?
No
is
there
anyone
in
the
room
or
on
the
screen,
who
would
like
to
take
advantage
of
the
citizens?
Participation
open
comment
portion
of
the
agenda,
seeing
none
who
will
proceed
to
chair
every
person's
comments
co-chair
yeah
then.
A
Here
we
go
so
we
missed
all
the
good
stuff
yeah
again
I
I'd
like
to
make
an
observation,
since
we
don't
have
a
a
quorum
and
we're
not
yet
to
the
approval.
In
minutes,
I
noted,
in
reviewing
of
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting,
I
neglected
to
thank
and
acknowledge
co-chair
Jason
saccharin
for
sponsoring
a
resolution
to
the
city
council
technology.
A
My
work
and
I
did
not
appropriately
thank
you
towards
that
at
the
last
meeting
reflected
in
the
minutes,
I
want
to
do
so
appreciate
it
appreciate
it
very
much
and
with
that
councilman
has
joined
us
welcome.
Stephen
we
now
have
a
quorum
previously
circulated
were
the
minutes
of
the
June
8th
meeting
any
comments,
Corrections
adjustments
to
the
meetings
minutes.
A
Excuse
your
second
second
move,
the
property.
Second
further
discussion:
all
those
in
favor,
please
indicate
by
saying
aye,
oppose
abstention,
so
ordered
back
to
to
chairperson's
comments.
It's
been
a
very
busy
couple
of
weeks
here
here
in
the
city
and
I
know
we
have
a
number
of
presenters
and
perhaps
we'll
move
move
forward
with
allowing
those
presentations.
So
those
individuals
have
to
have
other
things
on
their
agendas.
We
can.
We
can
move
forward.
Okay,
first
Adrian,
you
want
to
introduce
the
folks
from
the
Cap
Center.
D
D
She
has
several
expertise
in
her
own
right,
so,
along
with
Marla
Robinson
and
two
of
the
grad
students,
which
were
Catherine,
Holmes
and
also
Virginia
long,
they,
they
constructed
This
brilliant
report
where
they
did
research
and
reached
out
to
City
officials
and
City
personnel
to
come
up
with
a
cap
study
report,
and
so
Ali
is
going
to
give
an
overview
of
this
document.
The
document
was
also
sent
to
you
and
it's
also
located
in
the
Google
Drive,
so
Ali
whenever
you're
ready.
E
Sure,
thank
you,
Adrian
and
thank
you.
Everyone
for
having
me
I,
I'm,
really
happy
to
be
with
you
all,
and
grateful
for
the
opportunity.
I
can
take
no
credit
for
this
report.
This
was
all
our
grad
students
and
Marla
Robertson.
My
colleague,
who
is
at
a
family
reunion
today,
so
I
am
presenting
this
in
her
place,
but
it
really
is
her
hard
work
that
produced
this
report
and
her
vision
as
well.
E
E
You
know
what
roadblocks
are
departments
turning
into
and
so
I'm
gonna
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
report
and
help
you
navigate
through
the
report
and
then,
if
you
have
any
questions,
write
those
down
so
that
we
can
submit
answers
in
writing
to
you
all
through
Marla,
but
first
I
know
that
y'all
have
worked
with
Marla
in
the
past
and
seen
her.
So
you
probably
know
what
the
community
Assistance
Program
is,
but
just
for
an
overview
for
folks
who
may
not
have
heard
of
us.
E
So
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
do
this
research.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
I
will
walk
you
all
through
the
report,
starting
with,
of
course,
we
talked
about
the
purpose,
which
was
to
establish
a
baseline
of
understanding
of
what
has
happened
since
those
recommendations
were
issued
and
our
process
for
doing
that
was
first
to
meet
with
Adrian
and
Adrian.
I
should
say
has
been
tremendously
helpful
to
us
throughout
this
whole
process.
So
we
met
with
Adrian.
E
We
took
all
the
recommendations
of
the
subcommittees
and
aligned
them
to
different
departments
in
the
city
and
made
sure
we
validated
that
with
Adrian
right
who
obviously
knows
who
would
sort
of
be
responsible
for
carrying
out
which
recommendations
and
from
there
we
researched
each
of
those
departments
website
strategic
plan
any
externally
facing
information
that
they
have
published.
We
searched
for
and
then
to
fill
in
the
gaps
of
what
we
couldn't
find.
That
was
publicly
available.
E
We
reached
out
to
department
heads
across
the
city
and
the
mayor's
office,
so
that
is
a
little
bit
about
how
we
approach
this
we've
been
talking
about
sort
of
what
the
next
step
of
this
would
be
too
so
I
just
want
to
plant
that
seed,
because
this
is
a
high
level
overview
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
more.
That
could
be
done
with
this
information.
E
You
don't
know
in
that
I'm
sure,
but
it's
good
to
be
reminded
that
these
needs
are
still
ever
present
and
from
there
we
have
a
progress
report
that
kind
of
goes
through
each
department
and
identifies
the
strategies
that
are
in
progress
as
identified
either
by
the
department
or
by
their
publicly
facing
materials
that
we
could
find
online
strategies
that
are
missing,
that
we
didn't.
We
didn't
get.
You
know
kind
of
a
yes
or
no
about
whether
those
were
happening
and
then
a
few
things
that
folks
said
were
not
doing
this.
E
There
were
a
few
that
people
had
reasoning
for,
like
funding.
Of
course,
some
plans
that
maybe
fell
through
over
the
last
couple
of
years
as
well,
so
that
next
section
goes
through
every
single
Department,
the
recommendations
that
the
special
commission
made
and
where
the
you
know
where,
where
folks
are
on
that
this
section
after
that,
starting
on
page
33,
outlines
some
obstacles
that
we
faced
they're
kind
of
your
run-of-the-mill
obstacles,
it's
hard
to
get
in
touch
with
people.
E
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
recommend
certain
or
I'm
sorry
hard
to
identify
certain
strategies
if
they
haven't
been
really
concretely
operationalized
and
defined.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
obstacles
that
we
hit
that
are
not
unusual
in
our
research,
which
is
very
applied
in
working
with
folks
who
are,
you
know,
boots
on
the
ground
from
there
we
have
a
references
section
which
I
only
point
out,
because
it
outlines
the
city
departments
that
we
reached
out
to
the
information
that
we
found
online.
E
So
if
you're
curious
about
you
know
where
Clips
are
in
their
progress,
that
is
all
cited
in
this
report
with
hyperlink.
So
if
you
look
at
the
digital
version
of
it,
you
should
be
able
to
dig
more
deeply
into
strategic
plans
and
other
kinds
of
documents
that
really
kind
of
underscore
exactly
what's
happening,
and
the
references
section
also
outlines
who
we
spoke
to
so
like
I
said
we
first
did
a
scan
of
what
was
publicly
available,
and
then
we
did
a
round
of
several
rounds
of
Outreach.
E
But
if
you
look
at
the
digital
version,
you'll
see
color
coding
in
that
first
I
guess
table
that's
outlined
on
the
first
page
of
appendix
a
and
the
color
coding
indicates
strategies
that
are
being
implemented
by
multiple
departments,
which
is
I,
think
really
interesting,
not
to
editorialize.
But
you
know.
E
That's
appendix
a
appendix
B,
which
starts
on
page
59,
is
where
there
were
recommendations
missing,
and
that
does
also
have
a
color-coded
element.
So
the
the
recommendations
that
are
missing
that
are
in
red
are
things
that
are
that
have
been
clearly
told.
You
know
to
us
that
are
not
happening,
and
the
other
recommendations
that
are
missing
are
recommendations
that
we
couldn't
find
any
evidence
of
happening.
That
doesn't
100
necessarily
mean
there's
nothing
happening
in
that
realm,
but
we
cannot
identify
it
if
there
is,
and
that
was
either.
E
E
Our
recommendations
are
less
related
to
the
content
of
that
we
were
studying
and
more
related
to
the
process
of
kind
of
how
you
might
want
to
continue
along
these
lines,
if
you're
interested
so
creating
some
sort
of
city-wide
documentation
process
where
folks
can
really
track
their
own
recommendations
and
consistently
document
progress,
that's
being
made
or
obstacles
that
folks
are
running
into.
That's
always
also
helpful
to
know
potentially
creating
some
spaces
online,
where
folks
from
the
community
can
go
and
look
at
the
recommendations
and
what's
happening
and
then
really
streamlining
the
recommendations.
E
E
F
C
G
G
Well,
I
did
have
one
one
observation,
and
that
was
you
know
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
whether
the
message
methodology
used
here
was,
you
know
designed
only
to
you
know,
to
move
forward,
but
you
know
one
thing
I
would
point
out
was
that
you
know
the
recommendations
of
the
commission.
There
was
controversy
about
those
being
accepted
by
the
City
Council
there's.
No,
you
know
at
least
I
saw
no
indication
with
a
small
discussion
about
that
part
of
the
process
would
would
future
reports.
H
Sorry
Ellie,
it's
Carol,
Jackson
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
great
to
see
you
I'm,
so
sorry
that
you're
not
here
for
us
to
give
you
a
hug
I
know,
congratulations
on
your
I
guess:
you've
been
married
for
a
while
I
just
haven't
caught
up
with
that
news.
So
I'm
very
happy
now
you've
landed
at
the
Riley
Center.
That's.
H
Happy
to
be
here
so
that's
that's
on
a
personal
level,
but
I
I
sort
of
had
the
same
first
impression
as
I
think
Carol
fries
is
speaking
into
frankly.
I
I
didn't
know
that
this
report
was
was
being
so
thoroughly
researched
by
your
team
to
literally
drill
down
into
you,
know
the
layout
of
the
circus
committee
structure
and
then
the
different
goals
and
recommendations
and
strategies
and
recommendations
that
they
came
back
to
the
city
council
with
so
I
I
went
immediately
to
the
obstacles,
which
is
just
the
way.
H
I,
usually
read,
something
that
you
know
is
going
to
have
a
what?
What
do
we
do
now?
Next
step
attribute
to
a
report
like
this
and
I
I
I
do
think
that
in
some
ways
no
fault
of
anyone.
That's
been
part
of
this
really
thorough
research,
and
you
know
persistent
research,
I
think
in
terms
of
the
way
you
try
to
to
communicate
with
the
Department
Representatives.
So
no
fault
of
anybody
who
actually
worked
on
this
process
and
I'm
hopeful
that
the
grad
students
did
learn
a
lot.
H
It's
real
world
stuff,
but
my
first
impression
when
I
read
you
know
the
obstacles
and
then
and
then
went
through
back
through
the
rest
of
the
report,
was
that
in
some
ways
this
this
is
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
because
we
don't
have
authorization
to
undertake
in
terms
of
enabling
Department
work
for
the
vast
majority
of
these
strategies.
I
I
do
think
that
that's
why
I'm
so
interested
at
all
times
to
to
be
connected
more
seamlessly,
or
at
least
more
regularly
to
the
equity
core
team.
H
A
Other
Commissioners
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
an
observation.
One
Ali.
Can
you
tell
us
when
the
data
collection
stopped
the
obviously,
depending
on
what
day
or
what
month
you
stopped
in.
That's
the
snapshot
that
would
tell
us
what
what
transpired
I
can
use
the
police
department
as
as
an
example
subsequent
to
the
draft
report
that
I
select
Link
in
in
April
or
May.
A
They
have
proceeded
to
engage
in
the
third
party
assessment,
which
was
a
recommendation
and
also
I
believe
in
May
or
June,
adopted
some
revisions
to
the
CPAC
guidelines,
which
were
in
fact
recommendations.
So
those
are
examples
of
things
that
are
moving
forward,
so
it
would
be
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
know
you
know
what,
when
this
Baseline
was,
was.
A
That's
just
one
thing
in
terms
of
of
both
the
public,
that's
listening
in
and
for
us
to
say
that
this
is
a
a
document.
The
other
thing,
I
think
is
fair
to
note
that
the
commission
report
contained
recommendations
that
did
not
necessarily
require
action
by
city
council,
but
departments
could
pick
up
and
act
on
them
in
some
instances.
A
Some
of
the
Departments
are
already
moving
forward
to
to
do
so,
so
the
executive
branch
authority
to
move,
if
you
will
I
think
is
someone
is
most
of
us
reflected
here
unless
the
the
question
of
authorizations
or
actions
necessary
necessarily
necessitated
by
action.
Writing
our
recommendations
through
the
city
council,
so
I
think
there
is
a
an
important
balance
for
us
to
think
about
moving
forward.
It
agreed
to
which
the
commission
focuses
on
recommendations
for
necessary
ordinance
changes
and
programmatic
changes.
A
The
budgetary
changes
at
the
council
level
or,
at
the
same
time
supporting
and
encouraging
some
of
the
the
good
work
that
we
hear
being
done
to
see
being
done
to
make
progress
by
the
by
the
council
by
the
by
the
administrator
and
administrators
and
and
different
different
departments
and
agencies.
I
think
is
interesting
to
reflect
that
some
of
the
Departments
have
full
fairly
full-blown
Equity
implementation
plans.
A
H
Maybe
that
if
departments
are
you
know,
stepping
up
and
doing
things,
you
know,
basically,
as
as
they
are
I'm
inspired
to
create
some
sort
of
work
plan,
then
maybe
it
would
be
who,
in
the
mayor's
office
to
just
you
know,
have
a
have
a
memo.
That's
on
file
that
continues
to
encourage
that
kind
of
self-starting
work
plans.
I
I,
just
I
do
think
that
the
clarity
is
probably
missing
and
I.
Think
that
comes
through
from
the
Outreach
that
Ali's
team
you
know
tried
to
conduct.
E
Me
I
think
you'll
have
raised
some
interesting
issues
and
we'll
be
really
curious
to
know
kind
of
where
you
land,
on
the
balance
that
you
were
just
describing
between
focusing
on
Council
work
or
focusing
on
amplifying
the
voluntary
work.
That's
happening
at
the
ground
level
and
I.
Think
if
you
decide
that
maybe
option
b
is
the
priority.
E
Certainly
there's
some
opportunities
for
us
to
implement,
potentially
some
almost
like
policy
program,
evaluation
with
metrics
and
performance
indicators
and
things
that
we
can
do
in
collaboration
with
those
leaders
in
the
city
who
are
doing
this
work
and
who
are
really
engaged
in
this
process.
So
certainly
we'd
love
to
keep
the
conversation
going
with
y'all
about
any
ideas
that
you
have
or
future
evaluation
that
you
would
like
to
see.
Or
you
know
whatever
you
think
would
be
helpful-
that
we
can
offer
we're
really
happy
to
be
collaborating
on
this.
C
A
A
The
council,
Community
Development,
Committee
I,
believe
had
a
recent
committee
meeting
was
discussing
an
ordinance,
their
fair
housing
ordinance,
and
in
that
conversation
it
was
suggested
that
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation
commission
get
smarter
about
about
that,
and
the
premier
knowledgeable
person
leader
in
the
area
of
fair
housing
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
is
the
imminent
executive,
CEO
and
president
of
the
Charleston
area.
Urban
League,
also
Meadows,
who
we've
asked
today
to
share
with
us
information
about
fair
housing
and
the
work
that
you're
doing.
J
J
B
J
J
But
what
I
realized
was
that
if
there
needed
to
be
an
Urban
League
anywhere,
there
needed
to
be
an
Urban
League
in
Charleston,
South,
Carolina
and-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
my
relatives
and
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
still
don't
understand.
South,
Carolina
and
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
world
view
is
very
different
from
what
we
experience
here
every
day.
And
so
let
me
just
just
give
you
this
this
little
bit
of
information
about
this
organization
that
was
founded
in
1910.
J
We
are
the
second
oldest
civil
rights
organization
in
the
United
States,
founded
in
New
York
City
in
1910,
one
year
after
the
NAACP
we
have
92
Affiliates
across
the
country.
We
are
still
headquartered
in
New,
York
City
and
the
Urban
League
movement
is
all
about
moving
African-Americans
into
social
and
economic
mainstream
in
America.
J
J
Conversely,
the
Columbus
Ohio
affiliate
that
I
worked
at
was
in
steps
in
1913
and
the
other
affiliate
that
I
worked
at
was
established
in
1946.
And
so
when
you
look
at
the
Urban
League
movement,
we've
been
in
this
business
of
you
know:
providing
programs
to
move
African
Americans
into
the
social
and
economic
mainstream
for
many
many
years
just
want
to
say
that
the
the
scale
of
the
Urban
League
here
is
very
different.
I'll
just
give
you
an
example.
J
In
Indianapolis
Indiana,
two
years
ago,
the
Lily
endowment
created
a
hundred
million
dollar
Endowment
for
the
Urban
League.
While
I
was
there,
I
was
responsible
for
building
a
five
million
dollar
Urban
League
building,
and
so
when
you
look
at
the
traction
and
the
footprint
that
the
Urban
League
has
in
those
communities,
you
know
we're
trying
to
do
the
same
thing
here
in
Charleston,
while
we're
not
on
that
scale.
The
mission
and
the
work
is
still
very,
very
much
the
same
they're
still.
J
The
work
that
we
do
is
based
on
the
fact
that
there
are
still
very
significant
disparities
as
far
as
African
Americans
minorities
and
and
comparatively
you
know
where
they
are
in
America
versus
the
white
Community.
We
put
out
a
report
every
year.
The
state
and
Black
America
report
we've
been
doing
this
report
since
1976
and
in
this
report
we
talk
about
the
disparities
in
Education,
Health,
Care,
housing
and
employment,
and
we
talk
about
those
disparities,
not
only
as
it
relates
to
this
community
and
the
Charleston
North
Charleston
Metropolitan
statistical
area.
J
But
we
also
talk
about
how
that
translates
across
communities
across
the
country.
As
I
say,
we
understand,
we
made
progress,
but
we've
come.
We've
still
have
a
long
ways
to
go.
The
Urban
League
I
say:
we've
been
on
the
front
line
of
civil
rights
for
a
very
long
time.
The
Urban
League
was
responsible
for
putting
together
the
research
for
the
board
of
versus
brown
board
versus
brown
Brown
versus
Board
of
Education
I'm.
J
J
We
do
that
in
a
number
of
ways,
and
specifically
through
the
programs
that
we
serve.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
make
clear
is
that
the
early
we're
a
nonpartisan
organization?
We
don't
endorse
political
party,
we
don't
endorse
candidates,
we
endorse
policy
and
and
I
I
need
to
make
that
clear.
The
other
thing
that
I
need
to
make
clear
is
the
Urban
League
is
not
just
for
black
people.
J
J
The
fair
housing
presentation
at
some
time
in
the
future,
maybe
in
the
next
couple
months,
are,
are
so
Adrian
because
in
response
to
the
fair
housing
issues,
not
only
here
in
Charleston
but
across
the
country,
we
created
a
video,
and
in
that
video
we
talked
about
the
the
issues
around
fair
housing.
The
work
that
we
still
need
to
do,
but
also
what
we
did
is
we
bought
out
historical
policies
that
have
been
implemented
by
the
federal
government
that
actually
contributes
to
discrimination.
J
So
the
information
that
we've
put
together
on
Fair
Housing
is
in
direct
response
to
the
new
affirmatively,
further
furthering
fair
housing
rule
that
requires
municipalities
that
receive
federal
funding,
that
they
must
do
a
better
job
in
creating
a
greater
housing,
Choice,
eliminating
discrimination
and
creating
more
inclusive
communities.
And
so
we
put
a
lot
of
information
around
that
and,
as
I
say,
we
hope
to
give
you
that,
for
a
present
and
during
a
presentation
you
know
and
and
sometime
in
the
very
near
future
and
I'm.
J
Sorry
for
the
confusion
on
that.
But
it's
extremely
important.
What
the
federal
government
is
just
saying
in
essence
is:
look:
we've
been
giving
communities
and
municipalities
federal
dollars
for
many
many
years,
but
the
needle
hasn't
moved
in
closing
the
gaps
and
as
it
relates
to
fair
housing
and
housing
discrimination,
and
so
we're
working
with
the
city
to
create
an
equity
plan
Adrian
going
forward.
That
will
help
us
as
it
relates
to
developing
strategies
in
terms
of
how
we
do
a
better
job
in
administering
administrating,
fair
housing
programs
in
our
community.
J
The
Urban
League
is
the
only
certified
fair
housing
agency
in
the
Southeastern
part
of
South
Carolina.
That
means
that
we
are
certified
by
Hud.
Our
councils
are
certified
by
Hud
to
do
this
work,
but
we
don't
do
it
just
for
the
Urban
League.
We
do
it
on
behalf
of
the
City
of
Charleston.
We
do
it
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
North
Charleston,
and
we
do
it
on
behalf
of
Charleston
County.
We
do
that
in
our
activities
include
education
and
Outreach.
We
do
housing,
counseling
landlord
mediation.
J
We
can
find
discrimination
Carol
all
day
long,
but
our
motivation
is
education.
We
want
to
educate
the
broader
community
on
what
fair
housing
rules
are,
what
their
rights
and
responsibilities
are,
but
not
only
do
we
want
to
inform
the
broader
Community,
but
we
want
to
inform
landlords
we
want
to,
and
let
lenders
know
that
they
have
a
responsibility
to
adhere
to
fair
housing
laws,
and
hopefully,
some
of
what
we're
proposing
will
lend
itself
to
some
of
the
work
that
this
commission
needs
to
be
involved
in.
J
J
J
Why
we
did
this
program
is
because
we
have
the
largest
number
of
refund
anticipated
loans
in
the
nation.
That
means
most,
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community.
Go
to
payday
lenders,
alternative
financial
institutions
to
do
their
banking
to
get
loans
and
to
get
their
taxes
prepared
and
that's
in
the
form
of
a
loan
where
it
is
that
they're
paying
upwards
of
25
or
more
and
those
people
that
are
predominantly
you
know,
impacted
by
that
are
people
and
communities
of
color,
and
so
we
create.
J
We
started
doing
the
free
tax
program
as
I
say:
back
2009
2010
this
past
tax
season
we
prepared
over
4
000
tax
returns
and
the
return
on
combined
returns
to
this
community
was
three
and
a
half
million
million
dollars.
There
is
no
other
program
in
this
city
that
gets
a
return
on
investment
like
the
Vita
program
and
we're
talking
about
you
know.
J
J
High-Paying
jobs,
Carol
we
yeah
and
Adrian,
and
we
have
people
in
our
community
work,
two
three
jobs
and
can't
make
ends
meet,
and-
and
so
we
got
to
Advocate
on.
You
know
you
know
how
it
is
that
you
know
we
get
employers
around
the
table
and
talk
about
wages
and
and
I
understand
that
there
are
not
enough
minorities
and
women
represented
in
Industries
that
lend
itself
to
high
demand
high
paying
jobs
and
and
so
we're
working
to
address
that
financial
assistance.
J
Let
me
say
that
we
administered
over
half
million
dollars
in
rental
and
utility
assistance
or
during
the
pandemic,
I
will
say
that
over
73
percent
were
single
moms
with
children,
and
so
we
again
Advocate
financial
literacy.
You
know
you
know,
we
have
a
program
free
of
charge
and
we
want
you
know
to
get
get
people
coached
up
and,
and
you
get
them
to
be
financially
stable
and
understand
the
importance
of
contingencies.
J
And
so
let
me
just
say
that
you
know
we
do
this
work
in
collaboration
with
the
city
and
other
municipalities.
This
is
a
campaign
that
we
did
and
you
might
see
it
on
the
Carter
buses.
All
you
had
to
do
was
click
on
a
QR
code
on
the
side
of
the
bus,
and
it
would
take
you
to
the
Urban,
League
fear
housing
website
and
it
you
know,
and
that
will
get
you
to
all
the
information
that
you
need
and
resources
that
you
needed
to
know
about
fair
housing.
J
First
time
home
buyers,
program
and
I'm
gonna
wrap
it
up
here,
because
I
know
I'm
gonna
live
along
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
do
is
the
first
time
home
buyers
program.
We
did
the
last
two
home
mortgage
disclosure
acts
for
the
the
City
of
Charleston
and
in
those
reports
what
was
revealed
is
that
there's
a
huge
disparity
in
terms
of
black
home
ownership
versus
fight
home
ownership,
less
than
40
percent
of
blacks
and
Hispanics
own
homes
in
our
region
versus
over
80
percent
of
whites.
J
And
so
what
we
going
back
when
we
did
the
first
report
would
you
believe-
and
this
was
the
20
largest
fans?
Would
you
believe
that
there
were
banks
in
this
community
that
had
never
taken
a
loan
or
given
a
loan
to
a
person
of
color
there?
This
is
important
information,
because
that
needle
hasn't
moved
a
whole
lot
and
again.
J
This
is
something
that
I
put
on
on
your
plate,
because
these
are
things
that
I
think
we
need
to
address
and
that
you
know,
and
so
we're
working
with
banks
and
financial
institutions
to
see.
If
we
can
close
that
Gap,
we
were
just
given
a
grant
to
for
down
payment
assistance,
a
first-time
homebuyer
people
of
color.
J
In
the
last
two
weeks,
we
have
had
three
people
by
the
first
home
who've
taken
advantage
of
that
program,
and
and
so
we're
talking
about
strategies
that
work
in
our
study
of
what
we
found
is
the
greatest
wealth
generate
or
the
ga
or
the
the
greatest
contributor
to
the
wealth.
Gap
is
home
ownership
in
this.
J
B
J
Poverty
is
the
root
of
all
that's
going
wrong
in
our
community
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
get
down
in
the
weeds
and
that,
but
this,
unfortunately,
the
poverty
in
America
disproportionately
impacts
people
of
color
in
communities
of
color,
and
if
we're
going
to
move
the
needle
and
if
we're
going
to
do
anything
substantively
different
to
address
all
the
things
that
I've
touched
on,
it
needs
to
be
done
collectively.
It's
not
the
Urban
League
in
and
of
itself.
J
J
This
is
our
all
of
our
problems
and
if
we
can
do
a
better
job
in
closing
these
conspiracy,
addressing
these
disparities,
not
only
in
housing,
but
you
know
economically
and
socially
I
I
think
that
we
can
understand
or
realize
how
great
of
a
community
we
can
really
be,
and
let
me
stop
right
there.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
Given
the
prior
conversation,
we
had
on
city
council
number
one
the
effect
of
any
ordinance
that
we
would
enact
on
Fair
Housing
on
affordability
in
the
city
and
then
number
two,
whether
we
have
the
under
state
law,
The
Authority,
that
we
were
suggested
to
give
ourselves
under
the
the
ordinance
that
was
okay.
That
was
suggested
previously.
Okay,
I'm.
J
Not
necessarily
okay
yeah,
you
know
we
had.
We
have
had
lots
of
discussion
and
that
and
and
what
I
say
we
you
know
I
sat
on
the
subcommittee
in
terms
of
you
know,
looking
at
the
fair
housing
ordinance,
you
know
here
in
the
City
of
Charleston
and
advocated
strongly
that
what
we
ultimately
should
do
is
have
the
City
of
Charleston
to
apply
apply
as
a
fact.
J
B
B
B
H
Or
all
right
council
members
know
more
accurately,
but
I've
heard
through
the
corporate
council's
office
that
they're
concerned
about
us
need
to
be
having
some
sort
of
enforcement
arm.
That
would
literally
rule
on
cases
where,
where
discrimination
has
been,
you
know
proven
or
complained,
and
then
it
would
come
to
the
City.
K
J
J
J
J
H
B
A
So
currently,
what's
the
the
volume
of
complaints
that
you
process
and
and
yeah,
and
one
of
the
other
considerations
for
Arc,
is
to
look
at
becoming
a
human
relations
and
as
I'm
looking
at
the
state
statute
right,
that
is
the
entity,
that's
responsible
for
enforcement
right.
So
what
I'm
sure,
but
all
quandary
is
in
this
whole
conversation
is
one
that
we
take
on
that
title
right
right,
two
right:
what
does
it
mean
right
and
three,
the
question
and
there's
no
question
that
there's
an
affordable
housing
issue
in
the
city
yeah.
A
J
But
the
fact
and
to
answer
your
question,
it
goes
well
question.
There
is
no
doubt
discrimination
going
on
you
know,
but
the
situation
is
and
why
a
preference
and
and
uplift
the
education
and
Outreach
part
A
lot
of
people,
don't
understand
what
constitutes
discrimination.
That's
why
I
I
I
come
back
and
say
a
lot
of
what
I
anticipate
the.
K
B
B
A
D
J
That
once
we
file
the
complaint,
we
don't
hear
anything.
You
know
it's
in
the
hands
of
the
the
commission
and
the
disconnect
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is
that
if
the
person
who
filed
a
complaint
doesn't
follow
up
on
it,
according
to
you
know
their
contact
with
the
the
human
Affairs
permission,
yo
I
I
think
some
things
get
lost
in
the
wash
and
and
the
so.
A
I
promise
this
is
my
last
question
in
in
preparing
for
the
meeting.
I
I
did
some
looking
at
the
fair
housing
work,
that's
being
done
in
Greenville,
and
there
is
something
called
a
fair
housing
analysis
of
impediment
study.
That's
done
on.
Has
such
a
fair
housing
analysis
of
impediments
been
done
for
the
region.
You've.
A
The
plan,
the
plan,
adoption
again
in
terms
of
understanding
part
of
our
challenge
is
Carolyn.
The
case
is
trying
to
figure
out
what
right
should
we
should
do
at
what
level
all
right
and
understanding
how
much
of
a
problem
housing
discrimination
is
how
it
relates
to
the
affordable
housing
matter
and
what
how
we
can
best
align
the
resources
and
what
what
we're
trying
trying
to
get
at
so
I
appreciate
you
yeah.
You.
B
C
J
H
K
H
J
K
J
H
Yeah,
that's
why
I
I've
seen
lender
groups
been
successful
because
they
basically
put
pressure
on
each
other
right,
so
it
becomes.
You
know
a
a
group
think
and
a
group
strategy
that
they
all
have
those
goals,
and
then
they
have
to
perform
right
rather
than
just
trying
to
go
to
each
one
of
them
individually.
K
J
I'm
on
the
phone
board,
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
ways
that
that
could
work
is.
Is
you
know
the
City
of
Charleston?
Has
the
bank
on
initiative?
Yes,
and
that's
something
in
my
opinion
that
could
be
done
through
the
bank
on
you
know,
initiative
and
bringing
those
potential
lenders
as
a
group
to
the
table.
They're.
J
B
D
So
the
invoices
now
with
accounts
payable
to
be
paid
I,
will
arrange
a
meeting
for
to
have
with
good
stock
on
next
week
with
the
co-chairs
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
aligned
with
the
September
30th
date
having
a
refresher
training
for
the
equity
core
team,
the
joint
visioning
and
the
pre-strategic
planning,
and
that
is
supposed
to
also
constructing
a
one-year
heart
plan.
Development
I
also
had
a
meeting
with
the
South
Carolina
minority
Affairs
Ashley
Owens,
who
is
the
program
coordinator
for
the
African-American
division
regarding
collaborations
and
I,
also
had
the
same
agency.
D
D
The
racial
Equity
core
team
I
put
that
attachment
of
the
worksheet
that
was
sent
around
to
department
heads
in
the
email,
and
that
is
just
one
component.
I
was
doing
the
legwork
because
we're
going
to
come
up
with
a
strategic
plan
with
the
with
the
co-partnering
with
good
stock.
But
one
of
those
legwork
that
I
was
working
on
was
the
upward
Mobility
worksheet.
So
that
is
because
fire
and
police
both
have
a
track
system
where
they
know
where
they're
going
basically
in
their
positions.
D
Also,
the
I
was
involved
in
a
meeting
with
the
data
governance
committee,
so
the
City
of
Charleston
is
now
working
under
the
chief
Innovative
officer,
Tracy
McKee,
who
the
internal
review
subcommittee
met
with.
There
is
a
data
governance
committee
and
that
committee
is
to
better
improve
the
quality
of
life
residents
with
ethnical
and
Equitable
when
it
comes
to
data
collection,
how
data
is
stored
and
leaving
out
of
that
meeting.
D
One
of
the
something
that
was
brought
to
the
light
was
the
city
doesn't
have
a
central
location
where
we
can
share
data
internally.
So
that's
something
that
she's
going
to
be
working
on
with
collaboration
with
all
of
the
Departments,
also
giving
an
equity
lens
to
how
that
is
collected
upcoming.
We
have,
of
course,
the
Low
Country
mental
health
conference
that
press
release
was
already
done
and
that's
going
to
happen
in
June
this
month.
I
believe
it
starts
on
the
26th,
but
I
have
the
link
there
for
you
in
case
you
wanted
to
register.
D
They
also
have
a
virtual
component
and
there
was
a
flyer
attached
for
the
gulligichi
Heritage
preservation
project
and
there's
going
to
be
different
information
sessions,
and
you
can
also
do
that
virtually.
But
you
would
need
to
click
on
that
QR
code
to
get
registered
on
July
31st
from
11
to
12
30.
As
I
stated
in
our
main
meeting
we
had.
We
were
collecting
information
for
Brooks
Legacy.
They
are
the
brook
brothers
and
Albert
and
Benjamin
Brooks.
D
They
had
several
black
owned
businesses,
which
was
a
hotel
I,
believe
it
was
a
restaurant
and
maybe
a
cab
company.
I
believe
it
was
a
cab
company,
so
that
fits
in
with
the
economic
empowerment
component
of
heart
and
Alvin
will
be
giving
some
comments
at
that
street.
Sign
dedication
unveiling
as
the
economic
empowerment
share.
B
D
F
Think
I
got
a
quick
comment,
and
that
is
this.
In
our
first
briefing
on
the
cat
study
overview,
one
of
the
things
the
young
lady
was
talking
about
was
metrics
and
going
through
the
stuff
Adrian
you
sent
out
I
was
glad
to
see
that
there
was
a
lot
of
what
I
looked
that
as
metric
collection,
which
is
just
how
you
make
all
this
stuff
works.
F
K
B
F
D
So
they're
gonna
so
they're
doing
the
unveiling
of
a
signed
dedication,
so
the
street,
the
street
name,
will
still
be
the
same
just
like
they
did
for
Christine,
o
Jackson
it'll
just
be
above
it
and
I
could
send
you
a
picture
of
it.
But
it's
just
like
the
street
signs
the
same
above
it
so
they're
just
going
to
unveil
it.
D
F
D
F
History
and
culture-
obviously
it
was
kind
of
a
big
month
with
the
opening
of
the
African-American.
I
am
Museum
that
I
was
actually
working
for
the
census
that
day,
but
it
was
a
huge
crowd
as
far
over
as
King
and
Marion
Square,
you
could
tell
there
was
a
lot
going
on
that
is
now
open
and
I.
Don't
know
what
I
was
just
thinking
today.
I
was
wondering
what
percentage
of
Museum
space
I
think
it's
almost
doubled
compared
to
the
Charleston
museum.
F
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
a
huge,
significant
opening
and
kind
of
obvious
in
the
more
mundane
level
of
things.
I
found
out
that
the
City
of
Charleston,
it's
actually
called
the
as
we've
determined
here
a
little
bit
earlier,
the
commission
on
history
and
what
I
had
gotten
off
the
website
was
I.
Guess
the
wrong
chain
of
information
on
the
website.
There,
apparently
at
least
according
to
one
individual
I,
spoke
with
meeting
on
the
first
Wednesday
of
every
month
and
they
have
an
active
committee.
F
Apparently
when
something
comes
up-
and
you
know
so,
it
might
not
always
meet
that
has
been
meeting
fairly
frequently.
The
impression
I
got
with
a
an
active
group
of
members
and
I
was
thinking
that
maybe
we
can
see
about
find
out
the
next
meeting
the
agenda
and
maybe
I'll
make
it
on
my
schedule.
I
can
go
to
that
and
introduce
myself.
That's.
D
H
B
K
B
A
A
Listen
in
I
know
that
Dr
Felice
Knight,
who
shared
the
history
subcommittee
of
the
special
commission,
is
making
a
presentation.
So
I
would
presume
that
the
recommendations
and
the
discussions
that
she
put
forward
in
the
the
discussion
report
when
we
parted
that
discussion.
So
there
may
be
some
information
actionable
information
for
us
coming
out
coming
out
of
that.
K
H
So,
for
example,
she
was
the
driver
of
the
redistricting
census,
driven
redistricting
process
that
happened
a
year
ago
anyway.
She
takes
on
things
at
the
at
the
sort
of
at
the
ground
level
and
works
from
the
ground
level
up
to
develop
things
that
end
up
being
reliable
systems
for
the
city
and
in
the
meantime,
since
she's
made
the
presentation
to
council,
the
city
has
now
been
given
an
award
by
a
forgotten.
Who
do
you
remember.
H
Where
does
that
leave
an
equity
lens
approach
to
how
the
city
is
collecting
data
and
dealing
with
data
and
using
its
data,
and
she
made
a
comment
that
I
wrote
down
somewhere
and
I
was
searching
for
the
other
day
before
we
had
our
little
sit
down
with
her
as
the
internal
review.
Community
I
still
can't
find
it,
but
it
was
something
about.
She
said:
I
think
that
that's
where
we,
we
might
still
be
showing
some
warts.
Something
like
that.
H
H
You
know
the
outcome
of
her
of
her
products
and
efforts,
so
she
seemed
to
be
sincerely
enthused
about
using
our
our
working
group
to
be
sort
of
that
informal
sounding
board
when
she
had
some
ideas
about
things
that
she
reports
on
this
mostly
directly
to
the
mayor.
So
it
would
really
behoove
us
I
think
to
be
you
know,
good
good
partners,
we
didn't
come
to
any
conclusions,
but
she
she
sent
us
a
bunch
of
follow-up
documents
afterwards,
and
one
of
them
was
the
city's
council's
vote
to
create
this.
H
This
effort-
this
is
a
resolution.
I
think
that
the
city
passed
a
year
and
a
half
ago
to
create
this
open
data
collection
and
and
ongoing
system,
and
then
she
sent
us
a
couple
other
things
that
I
haven't
opened
yet
so
I
think
we
will
have
a
a
really
good
ongoing
relationship
with
with
the
city
through
Miss,
McGee's
workload
and
I.
Think
that's
all
we
talk
about
right.
G
No
I
think
I
agreeing
with
Carol.
It
was
a.
It
was
a
good
review
and
you
know
she
she's
done
some
very
good
work
and
you
know,
but
you
know,
and
she
you
know
she
clearly,
as
Carol
indicated,
you
know,
will
be
applying.
You
know
the
work
that
we've
done
and
what
she's
doing-
and
you
know
there
were
some
there
were
a
lot
more.
We
wanted
to
get
from
her,
but
we
used
our
entire
hour
and
things
like
you
know.
H
H
A
Yeah
my
my
observation
in
listening
to
the
meeting
was
in
a
really
kind
of
links
to
the
the
first
discussion
we
had
with
the
cap
program.
This
is
an
example
of
an
action
taken
by
Council.
The
work
really
really
being
done
at
the
city
at
the
city,
Department
level,
all
right,
but
the
question,
as
we
were
talking
to
Tracy
about
questions.
Well,
you
know
when
you
collect
the
data
around
I
think
she
said.
Flooding
and
housing
were
two
priority
areas
and
that
were
priority.
I
said
well.
A
I
think
this
is
probably
a
very,
very
good
lever
and
partnership
in
in
terms
of
moving
forward,
and
it
could
in
fact
be
a
major
anchor
if
you
will
for
our
internal
or
one
anchor
to
our
Internal
Affairs
discussion,
because
it
kind
of
Keeps
Us
keeps
it
flowing.
So
with
the
core
group
working
and
the
data
we're
working
the
two
of
those
pieces,
and
then
you
superimpose
the
master
plan
over
top
of
which
one
says
you
know
we
need
to
be
having
information
about
it.
A
H
That
me,
too,
and
as
you're
saying
that
it
occurred
to
me
I
think
we
sort
of
ended
our
hour
by
agreeing
as
a
little
discussion
group
that
you
know
for
us.
Success
would
be
having
that
the
Equitable
question
answered
every
time
that
we
would
not
have
to
ask
that
as
an
outside.
You
know.
Well
did
you
did
you
think
about
this?
A
Yeah
yeah
and
may
Perhaps
Perhaps
Perhaps
to
amplify
that
part
of
what
Tracy
intercept
The
Innovation
group
is
doing
is
trying
to
set
up
templates
for
data
collection,
all
right
for
departments.
All
right
is
not
may
not
necessarily
be
a
mandate
that
they
use
it,
but
there
is
a
standard
that
would
that
would
be
used
and
by
encouraging
that
standard
it
would
allow
folks
to
ask
ask
the
questions
I
think
it's!
It's
a
good
movement
in
the
right
direction.
C
B
D
If
I
have
to
ask
for
permission,
you
know
like
get
requests
for
permission.
I
could
do
that,
but
there
is
that
doesn't
exist,
so
you
usually
go
to
the
person
and
request
whatever
it
is.
You
need
okay,
so
internally,
a
lot
of
the
Departments
have
a
lot
of
data
that
they
have
for
their
specific
department.
But
it's
not
there's
not
a
location
that
at
all
is
housed
under.
D
F
C
K
A
Any
Commissioners
want
to
raise
I
I
assume
that
we
all
noted
the
interim
appointment,
the
acting
the
acting
Chief
Cheeto
walker
for
the
police
police
department,
but
also
related
to
the
criminal
justice
subcommittee
report.
The
racial
bias
audit
assessment
contract
has
been
extended.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
department
and
the
team
will
be
meeting
to
come
up
with
a
timeline
to
let
us
know
when
that
report
will
be
available
in
the
original
timeline
was
a
June
timeline.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
born
in
July,
so
it'll
probably
be
August
and
September
before
that.
That
information
is
available.
I
would
suggests
that
the
commission
Commissioners,
particularly
those
who
are
appointed
by
members
of
the
city
council,
and
sit
on
the
Public
Safety
Committee
pay
particular
attention
to
the
report.
When
it
comes
out
and
have
a
conversation
we
can
have,
it
forgot
how
to
have
a
conversation
with.