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City of Charleston Human Affairs and Racial Conciliation Commission 5/11/2023
A
We
do,
have
a
quorum
of
seven
and
the
first
item
of
business
is
a
moment
of
silence,
to
focus
ourselves
on
the
mission
of
Park
and
to
get
rid
of
all
of
the
negative
Vibes
that
might
have
come
in
the
room
with
you
and
inhale
all
the
positive
so
that
we
can
accomplish
our
our
mission.
Let's
have
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Thank
you.
The
first
item
of
business
is
a
public
comment.
Did
we
have
anyone
sign
up
for
a
public
comment?
No,
is
anyone
in
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment?
Please
come
to
the
mic
and
indicate
your
names,
an
organization,
and
since
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
folks,
don't
go
for
them
forever,
but
you
know
two
or
three
minutes
to
be
fine.
B
We
have
many
clients
from
there
and
we're
anticipating
to
receive
many,
many
more
individuals
and
families
over
the
coming
months.
We
know
that
the
individual
is
successful.
Integration
and
welcome
into
the
community
is
dependent
upon
Key,
Community
actors
across
all
sectors,
so
Health
Care,
Providers,
local
government,
government
agencies
and
property
management
companies,
and
so
so
many
more
people.
It
really
is
a
holistic
effort,
and
so
that's
why
we're
really
excited
to
connect
with
you
all,
and
we
think
that
there's
many
opportunities
for
Lutheran
Services
Carolinas
to
work
alongside
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
B
As
you
know,
we
can
also
provide
input
on
the
unique
needs
faced
by
this
population
when
they're
arriving
to
the
Charleston
area,
we've
identified
two
specific
ways
that
we
think
that
we
could
really
work
together
in,
and
that
is
the
provision
of
Community
Education
surrounding
refugees
and
the
obstacles
they
face,
as
well
as
the
identification
and
recruitment
of
property
management
companies
and
local
landlords
who
are
willing
to
rent
out
safe
and
affordable
housing
to
our
community
and
to
our
new
Refugee
neighbors.
So
that's
really
all
I
I
had
to
to
share
today
but
I.
A
C
C
A
You
may
also
recall
that
the
ordinance
establishing
heart
speaks
to
the
possibility
of
a
human
relations
Council
linked
to
the
state
Council
which,
if
we
recommend
that
and
the
council
adopts,
that
his
body
might
become
a
human
Affairs
Council.
So
that
might
be
another
link
to
the
work.
They
should
do
that.
A
C
A
In
properly
seconded
any
discussion
and
an
observation,
it
certainly
would
help
me
if
we
had
the
minutes
perhaps
a
week
earlier
so
now
that
we
had
an
opportunity
to
to
review
them.
You
know
one.
We
obviously
have
the
opportunity
if
any
council
member
wants
to
go
back
and
review
the
video
of
the
meeting,
there's
that
opportunity
to
to
go
through
it
within
that
requires
you
listen
to
all
of
our
conversation
as
opposed
to
reading,
but
I
would
appreciate
it
if
we
could
work.
A
F
G
Good
evening,
everyone
just
prior
what
Jerry
stated
about
about
having
our
minutes
earlier
Jasmine
did
come
by
my
office,
which
I
appreciated,
and
you
know
she
also
does
other
meetings
and
other
minutes
and
she's
going
to
do
her
very
best
to
have
our
minutes
to
us
a
week
in
advance.
So
thank
you,
Jasmine
for
that.
So
I
had
a
series
of
meetings
that
I've
been
attending
to
I
spoke
with
Michaela
when
it
comes
to
how
heart
can
play
a
part
when
it
comes
to
the
refugees.
G
I've
also
spoken
to
South
Carolina
Affairs,
which
Jerry
gave
voice
to
earlier
Ayana
was
our
community
leader.
Eliana
has
since
left
so
we're
they're
working
on
getting
us
another
person
so
that
we
could
get
a
council
if
that's
something
we
wanted
to
do
establish,
or
at
least
have
a
presentation.
I
also
have
been
in
conversation
with
the
grant
coordinator.
Sarah
Sarah
informed
me
that
she
is
now
moving
towards
being
the
sole
Grant
writer
for
stormwater,
so
they're
looking
to
hire
a
people's
grant
writer
which
will
serve
for
us.
G
G
I've
also
been
in
contact
with
the
Hope
Center,
which
is
Latasha
Latasha
Jenkins,
and
we
know
that
the
majority
according
to
her
is
the
people
of
color.
So
what
are
the
ways
where
we
can
work
in
partnership
with
the
Hope
Center
and
the
resources
that
they
provide
and
I
will
send
that
in
an
email
as
well,
because
she
sent
it
just
before?
I
came
to
the.
A
G
Okay,
so
the
mission
of
the
Hope
Center
is
basically
collaboration
with
the
city
to
provide
services,
which
is
a
wide
range
of
services
to
individuals.
Families
in
the
Tri-County
area
experiencing
homelessness;
okay,
so
they're,
open,
Mondays,
Monday,
Tuesday
Monday
through
Wednesday
nine
to
five
okay
they're
closed
on
Thursdays,
open
at
on
Fridays
from
nine
to
twelve.
They
have
wrap
around
services.
So
anything
from
someone
coming
in
to
take
showers
to
mental
health,
mental
care,
Legal,
Services,
Employment,
Services
life
skills
and
they
also
connect
to
housing
resources.
H
C
G
G
G
And
so,
okay,
so
I'll
send
you
that
brochure
and
the
the
resource
information
for
that,
and
also
where
Jerry
is
the
culture.
The
criminal
well
CPAC.
So
I
sent
you
that
in
an
email
as
well
about
the
the
racial
bias
audit,
so
I
sent
you
that
in
an
email
we
have
those
States
for
the
community
forums
are
May
20th
and
May
25th.
If
anyone
can't
bring
up
those
emails,
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
send
the
resend
them
and
then
for
the
water
plan.
G
I
sent
that
as
well
in
an
email,
and
we
have
Community
forums
for
that.
Also
so
I
do
I
have
put
the
the
racial
bias
audit
Community
survey
on
our
website,
so
that's
posted
for
the
public
and
I'm
also
going
to
put
the
Charleston
Water
plan
on
there
by
tomorrow
morning.
Just
so
in
case
the
public
doesn't
know
about
it,
they'll
be
able
to
see
it
on
our.
G
So
the
water
plan
is
it
increase.
It
addresses
the
increasing
amount,
the
risk
when
it
comes
to
high
tide
sea
level.
We
know
that
the
Charleston
area
is
surrounded
by
water,
so
they're
coming
out
with
media
mitigations
to
for
over,
like
25-year
planning,
the
leadership
is
Dale
Morris
and
so
he's
the
chief
resilience
officer.
They
do
have
a
consultant
firm
they'll
lead
for
engineering
is
with
the
Dutch
dialogue.
The
com,
the
community
meetings
are
basically
a
component.
G
They
have
solicited
a
community
engagement,
consultant
and
they're
looking
to
bring
together
the
community
on
an
education
component
and
also
on
an
equity
component.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
piece
of
it
where
they'll
have
Maps
they'll
have
three
maps
and
one
will
state
if
you
live
in
this
neighborhood.
This
is
your
risk
and
how
it
would
affect
you
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
but
those
meetings
are
Monday
May
22nd
at
different
locations.
G
So
we
have
a
James
Island
location
at
the
library,
Baxter
Patrick
library,
on
James
Island,
Burke,
High,
School
downtown,
which
is
Tuesday
May,
23rd
and
May
24th,
which
is
on
a
Wednesday
at
HUD
gap,
which
is
John's
Island,
and
you
received
that
in
an
email
as
well
and
I'll.
Also
post
this
on
the
website.
H
And
and
I
think
this
is
the
first
opportunity
for
the
public
at
large
to
see
the
work
of
the
Consulting
team,
so
my
understanding
is
their
their
due
date
for
the
final
water
plan,
delivery
that
Council
will
receive
or
accept
or
adopt
I,
don't
know
what
they'll
be
asked
to
do.
This
is
the
end
of
the
year.
Okay,.
C
H
I
think
they
might
have
another
round
of
public
meetings
as
they
get
closer
to
that.
So,
but
it's
very
important
if
people
I
find
it
in
James
Island
as
I
talk
to
people,
you
know
there,
a
lot
of
people
are
still
at
the
phase
of
well.
Why
should
I
really
care
about
this
because
I've
never
had
my
septic
tank?
Have
a
problem?
H
I
don't
see
water
in
my
yard,
but
there's
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
up
and
down
the
lower
part
of
James
Island
that
I
try
to
cultivate,
in
particular
for
the
County
council
rep
that
I'm
hoping
get
to
know
his
constituents
they're
very
vulnerable
to
the
low-lying
areas
that
they
inhabit.
It's
just
historically
historic
black
communities
came
out
of
the
shared
proper
era
of
Charleston
settlement
and
those
for
agriculture
locations
that
you
know
relied
on
canals
and
bag
ditches
and
those
water
areas
are
getting
increasingly
intrusive
into
the
landscape.
H
So
I
think
this
is
very
encouraging
personally
I'm
trying
to
get
my
husband
to
go
because
he's
one
of
them:
I
love
where
I
live,
I'm,
never
leaving
and
so
I
I.
Do
think
that
this
will
be
something
that
we
can
promote
individually
to
our
circle
of
friends
and
neighbors
as
something
that
will
answer
a
lot
of
their
well.
Why
should
I
care
questions
so.
A
A
So
it's
an
opportunity,
even
though
we
haven't
gotten
to
help
an
environment
yet
to
get
smart
on
it,
so
I'd
either
just
to
take
that
and
ask
the
public
also
to
go
and
I
I
would
suspect
by
July
or
August
we'll
get
around
some
having
discussions
in-depth
discussions
here
at
the
commission
on
questions
of
flood
Indian
environment.
So
right.
H
I
think
it
was
a
couple
meetings
ago,
so
in
March
the
team
was
here
doing
a
lot
of
Hands-On
boots
on
the
ground
type
of
stuff
yeah
and
that's
when
they
met
with
Rosemont,
which
is
is
getting
its
own
special
set
of
studies
and
recommendations
about
it
about
their
projections
or
Environmental
situations.
So.
G
So,
and
at
that
meeting
in
March,
it
was
released
in
a
meeting
after
that,
but
they
didn't
have
the
public
feedback
that
they
wanted.
So
that
is
also
another
reason
why
they're
bringing
forth,
because
that
meeting
happened
during
the
day
at
the
Clemson
Design
Center.
So
these
meetings
are
going
to
be
held
in
the
evening
and
in
different
locations,
so
hopefully,
that'll
give
some
public
feedback
and
they'll
have
more
engaged
and
also
the
education
component.
H
G
So
they're
yeah
well,
it's
not
being
tabled,
but
so
and
that's
why
I
like
to
get
complete
understanding
before
I
bring
it
to
the
group,
but
the
YWCA
there
was
a
racial
Equity
Grant,
so
the
when
you
read
through
it
with
Allstate.
So
when
you
read
through
the
grant,
it
also
states
that
it
doesn't
State
much
partnership.
So
what
the
YWCA
can
leverage
off
of
with
us
is
a
letter
of
support,
but
we
would
not
be
receiving
funds
for
that.
No,
there
is
a
grant
that
I'm
looking
at
for
the
Sisters
of
Charity.
G
It
does
the
same
with
racial
Equity,
but
Sarah
will
be
able
to
help
me
with
that
one,
but
that
ran
is
actually
a
smaller
Grant
and
every
most
of
the
grants
that
I'm
getting
is
with
economic
empowerment
and
so
I'll
reach
out
to
you
as
well
Alvin.
But
I
was
just
trying
to
like
hold
them
really
quickly.
G
G
H
C
I
A
And
I
would
encourage
the
Commissioners,
since
each
of
you
have
your
own
network
of
events
and
activities
and
organizations
that
you're
involved
in
if
any
of
your
organizations
are
doing,
work
that
touches
on
any
of
the
issues
that
we're
addressing
I
mean
Transportation
housing
and
the
like,
where
they
might
be
an
equity
component,
and
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
partner
with
us
either
as
a
a
way
of
disseminating
information
or
are
participating
in
a
more
substantive
kind
of
way.
Please
bring
that
to
the
table.
A
A
So
nothing
else
on
action
item
one.
At
our
last
meeting
we
presented
the
correct.
Excuse
me
the
chart
or
Matrix
of
recommendations
from
the
commission,
those
in
the
three
areas
that
we
have
already
done.
Our
proposal
is
to
move
those
forward
to
the
city
council
of
the
way
of
communicating
with
them.
At
our
last
meeting,
there
was
discussion
about
changing
things
apparel
the
first
lot
from
art
recommendations
to
make
it
clear
that
they
were
the
recommendations
of
the
special
commission.
A
The
other
requests
from
Adrian
to
Adrian
was
in
those
situations
where
the
city
council
standing
committee
was
not
identified
in
the
original
bridge
to
insert
that
and
then
the
third
piece
was
that
we
would
add,
in
the
comments
column
any
notes
about
things
that
are
moving
and
in
progress
folks
about
it.
My
understanding
is
that
we
all
have
access
to
it
through
Google
Drive.
Yes,.
G
So
if
you
go
to
your
email
account
your
Gmail
account
or
whatever
email
it
is
that
you
gave
you
will
have
access
I,
also
to
make
it
easier
for
you,
I
sent
the
link,
so
that
link
should
give
you
access
to
everything.
It
should
give
you
access
to
all
of
the
shared
folders
and
that
way
I
wouldn't
have
to
keep
emailing
you
any
little
all
the
documents,
all
the
backing
documents
they're
all
located
there.
G
So,
as
Jerry
stated,
you
know,
I
changed
those
those
at
the
edits
that
we
needed
from
the
last
meeting
have
all
been
changed.
What
I've
also
done,
though,
is
we
stated
that
we
wanted
to
start
doing
things
in
real
time
like
things
that
are
happening
right
now.
Take
on
those
initiatives
such
as
the
city
water
plan,
the
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit,
so
I
have
on
the
bottom,
like
for
housing
and
Mobility,
for
example,
you
will
see
it
says
City
order
plan,
but
it
has
in
the
note
area.
G
You
know
when
the
community
meetings
were
who
did
presentations
or
like
the
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit
I
have
the
link
for
the
Lowcountry
Rapid
Transit,
and
if
that
a
link
also
takes
you
to
sign
up.
So
if
you
want
a
newsletter
that
comes
to
you,
you
can
sign
up
on
that
economic
empowerment.
It
has
you
know
the
Union
Pier,
the
Renaissance.
It
has
that
information
too
so
is
updating,
and
if
you
see
something
where
you
want
to
take
notes
on
them,
that's
the
gift
of
Google
drive,
because
you
can
actually
make
notes
in
real
time.
A
So
we
need
to
go,
adjust
the
grid
to
reinsert
that,
and
also
to
research,
insert
those
notes
related
to
that
in
that
same
area,
criminal
justice,
as
Adrian,
indicated
the
schedule
for
these
Community
meetings
being
hosted
by
the
assessment
team.
That's
been
contracted
by
the
city
to
do
an
assessment
of
where
the
city
is
and
Implement
implementing
the
racial
bias
audit,
as
scheduled
two
meetings
of
one
son,
the
20th
and
the
others,
are
on
the
25th.
A
The
schedule
that
we
were
originally
presented,
suggesting
that
the
project
would
be
finished
in
a
report
issued
in
June
is
doesn't
seem
likely.
It
is
more
likely
that
that
schedule
will
be
adjusted.
It's
going
to
take
more
time.
The
other
update
that
I'll
enter
into
the
the
great
admissions
with
as
an
example
of
what
notes
might
be
added
as
we
as
we
track
things
that
the
department
is
CPAC,
that
is
Community
Police
advisory
committee,
not
the
other
CPAC.
A
It's
are
involved
in
developing
a
survey.
I
had
been
hoping
that
survey
will
be
in
the
field
by
now
or
more
likely
that
that
survey
won't
be
in
the
field
until
the
1st
of
June.
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
things
examples
of
things
that
might
wind
up
in
the
notes,
as
well
as
as
any
of
us
tracking.
What's
going
on
at
city
council,
or
conversations
that
we
might
have
with
our
appointing
authority
that
that
might
be
relevant
and
important.
F
Yeah
I
I
took
a
quick
look
after
you
sent
us
an
email,
Adrian
and
we're
still
on.
It
has
three
tabs.
If
you
remember
at
the
bottom
of
the
spray
machine
and
you
change
the
you
know
the
word
from
the
you
know,
the
thing
we
mentioned
last
time
on
Tab
one,
but
it
did
not
get
changed
on
pad
two
and
three.
A
F
F
H
I'm,
sorry
I
don't
have
to
keep
I
I
I'm
happy
to
adopt
this
as
a
format,
and
it
does
sound
like
it's
it's
you
know,
as
Adrian
has
updated
it
and
you're
talking
through
things
that
should
be
there
as
a
tracking
system.
So
if,
if
that's
the
basis
for
our
adoption,
the
format
and
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
a
a
very
thorough
tracking
system
to
the
best
we
can
make
it,
then
then
I'm
I'm
in
favor.
H
What
what
I
I
think,
what
I'm,
hopefully
misunderstood
last
month,
was
that
this
was
going
to
be
the
way
that
we
send
things
to
city
council
that
that
I,
don't
think
we're
ready
to
send
recommendations
to
City
Council
in
a
format
like
this,
so
I'm
happy
to
say
that
this
is
the
format
that
we're
going
to
pick
and
choose
from
the
content
that
would
ultimately
go
to
city
council,
but
I'm,
not
I'm,
I
I.
Can't
I
can't
endorse
this
as
the
blanket
document
that
city
council
will
get
without
any.
H
You
know
con
any
context,
any
explanation,
any
prioritization,
I
I,
just
don't
see
how
that's
helpful
to
the
council
and
and
that's
what
I
have
failed
to
communicate
well
in
recent
months
and
so
I'm,
probably
failing
again
to
communicate
that
well,
but
I
I
I'm,
just
stuck
there.
I
I
understand
that
we
need
to
format.
We
need
to
keep
track
of
things,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
that
same
format
translates
well
to
how
the
council
views
what
we're
putting
on
their
plates.
E
C
H
A
Other
questions
on
the
discussion
in
the
unreadyness-
all
those
in
favor,
please
indicate
by
saying
aye
opposed
name
obsessions,
so
ordered.
So
with
that
in
mind,
let's
skip
down
to
the
union
peer
Renaissance
District
proposal
endorsement.
For
me,
this
is
an
example
of
a
situation
where
we've
had
a
presentation.
There
is
at
our
last
meeting.
A
A
A
This
would
be
our
action
and
direct
communication
would
be
the
manner
in
which
we
would
present
that
information,
which
is
also
why
it's
important
for
us
in
a
situation
where
we
have
we're
taking
action
this
time
sensitive
to
make
certain
that
we
have
that
recorded
right,
so
I
mean
that
that's
an
example
so
Alvin
you
or
the
point
guard
on
our
economic,
the
empowerment
session.
What's
your
thoughts,
yeah.
D
I
mean
I
mean
so
so
for
me
that
this
one
kind
of
hits
a
little
bit
closer
to
home.
You
know
just
having
served
as
the
chair
of
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
for
the
special
commission.
One
of
the
recommendations
that
we
made
was
basically
the
establishment
of
a
district
at
the
end
of
the
day.
That
was,
you
know
mostly
focused
on
black
businesses
and
a
lot
of
the
distraction
and
discussion
was
over
who's
going
to
pay
for
it.
How
much
it
is
this
going
to
cost
who's
going
to
pay
for
it?
D
No
I
said
in,
like
my
mind,
I
I
could
be
over
simplifying
this,
but
this
really
seemed
like
a
layup
that
really
doesn't
cost
the
city
anything
and
just
understanding
how
this
process
works
and
I.
Think
it's
great.
That
rather
Summerfield
just
happens
to
be
here
today,
but
we,
along
with
the
resolution,
needs
to
be
some
type
of
language
that
speaks
to
the
incorporation
of
a
black
business
district,
a
Renaissance
District
in
the
actual
cut
document,
because
we
all
understand
that
that
document
becomes
the
zoning
Bible.
D
A
A
The
city
should
continue
to
develop
and
create
Handler
training
and
support
programs
for
women
and
minority
business
best
language,
that
is
in
the
master
plan,
and
this
would
in
fact
be
a
support
program.
If
you
will
not
specific
for
that,
and
the
special
commission
report
language
says:
create
economic
development
plan
for
black
ministers
outside
of
and
around
this
National
African-American
Museum
right.
A
The
site
is
about
somebody
all
right
and
it
those
two
things
coincide.
So
our
recommendation
is,
you
know
like
because
the
Union
peer
development,
okay,
includes
a
plan
unit
development,
all
right
that
has
to
be
approved
or
Incorporated
specifically
in
the
plan,
because
the
master
plan
speaks
to
support
for
minority
women
and
minority
businesses,
and
a
special
commission
report
specifically
spoke
to
a
district
around
or
impact
around
the
international
African-American
Museum.
Therefore,
this
seems
like
a
great
idea.
H
The
theoretical,
theoretical
theoretical
of
the
special
commission's
recommendations
that
you
know
it's
just
a
bunch
of
paper,
and
why
should
we
we
do
this?
You
know
we
do
this.
This
is
this,
this
resolution,
if
we
pass
it
in
a
few
minutes,
we'll
put
tea
and
reality
to
what
we've
been
talking
about,
that
heart
should
be
accomplishing
so
I
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
fabulous.
H
D
Well,
I
guess,
with
that
being
said,
I
will
do
my
best
to
try
to
make
my
first
motion.
I
guess
I
make
a
motion
that
we
as
a
as
a
heart
commission,
put
forth
a
resolution
speaking
to
the
incorporation
of
of
black
Renaissance
District
into
the
Pud
document
that
will
be
associated
with
the
development
of
the
Union
peer
property.
H
A
I
F
I
want
to
I
support
what
you
said:
Alvin
I
agree.
This
is
a
wonderful
opportunity,
but
I
cannot
supporter.
You
know
without
everyone,
understanding
the
heartburn
I
have
as
a
citizen
over
how
we
got
to
where
we
are,
and
that
is
that
our
former
mayor
gave
this
property
away,
and
you
know
it's
just
amazing
to
me
that
we're
sitting
here
where
we
are
today,
he
should
have
listened
to
Bernard
Baruch,
who
said
they're
not
making
any
more
land,
especially
anymore.
F
E
I
mean
we
are
where
we
are.
It
is
what
it
is.
This
is
where
we
are.
It
is
not
our
property
I
think
we
are
going
down
the
politicizing
that
this
property
has
turned
into
when
advocacy
organizations
are
hiring
very
controversial
political
consultants
and
are
now
running
their
advocacy
like
a
political
campaign.
E
E
It's
not
it's,
not
the
city's
property
I
can't
even
imagine
if
we
sat-
and
this
is
how
Daniel
Island
laid
out
we'd
still
be
sitting
here,
25
years
later
or
30
years
later,
how
many
years
it's
been
at
what
point
and
I'm
I'm,
not
a
lawyer
at
what
point
does
some
of
this
feel
like
a
taking
at
what
point
are
we
setting
ourselves
up
for
some
tricky
for
some
trickiness
I
I?
Don't
I
don't
know,
but-
and
it's
not,
and
it's
not
just
this
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
E
E
You
know
I
mean
there's
nothing
to
say
that
the
port
can't
go
hey.
You
know
what
we
have
listened
to.
You
we're
going
to
pull
this
project
and
then
they
just
start
selling
it
off
in
Parcels,
as
is
which
is
zoned
heavy
industrial
which
is
I
understand
you
can
basically
do
whatever
you
want
there,
but
hotels.
E
So
at
what
point
like?
How?
How
much
do
we
wanna
push
the
envelope?
You
know
I
think
it's
been
I,
think
it
I,
don't
appreciate
what
has
gone
on
with
this
property
whatsoever
from
the
public.
I
think
there
are
very
good
faith
efforts
on
all
sides
and
it
has
just
become
a
weapon
and
very
unnecessarily
so
right
after
I
was
elected.
E
I
was
out
at
that
property
with
Dale
Morris
and
Wagner
and
ball,
and
that
team
and
I
said
if,
if
I
could
wave
my
magic
wand,
if
I
could
press
the
Staples
Easy
Button,
we
would
have
more
Waterfront
access.
We
would
have
more
open,
inclusive
community
I
mean
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
and
the
owners
are
willing
to
do
that.
E
It
it's
the
nature
of
the
Beast
you're
not
going
to
spend
this
kind
of
money
for
this
much
land
and
and
not
expect
to
turn
a
profit
on
it
or
you
know,
get
back
your
investment,
I
I
love
the
idea,
maybe,
as
we
see
how
things
move
along
a
little
bit
more
there's
there's
more
room
for
that
conversation
at
this
point
in
the
game.
It's
so
red,
hot
and
so
highly
charged
I.
Just
can't
I
can't
put
another
layer
on
it
at
this
point
is
my
sense.
J
J
Think
that
we
need
to
make
the
recommendations
that
we
need
to
make
and
I
understand
paying
attention
to
the
political
forces
and,
at
the
same
time,
I,
don't
I
think
if,
if
we're
gonna
take
into
account
the
kinds
of
things
you're
talking
about
I
need
much
more
specifics
about
what
you
would
like
us
to
do.
I
think
we
need
to
act.
K
H
Yeah
I
I
I
mean
I,
hear
Mariah
and
that's
that
that
thinking
is
going
around
and
it's
very
prudent
and
logical,
I
think
in
terms
of
our
recommendation
right
now,
all
we're
asking
for
is
a
is
a
carve
out
of
the
proposed
600
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space
that
is
in
below
submission
on
behalf
of
the
ports
to
the
HUD
process
and
we're
we're
just
asking
that
equitably.
Sixty
thousand
square
feet
of
that
be
given
to
black
business
district
and
part
of
I
think
skates.
H
It's
very
compelling
proposal
is
the
money
generating
ability
of
that
District.
They
have
done
a
lot
of
homework
about
black
business
in
our
nation
and
especially
in
a
tourist
economy,
especially
next
door,
to
what
is
supposed
to
be
a
renowned
internationally
acclaimed,
African-American
Museum,
so
I
think
their
business
case
is
as
solid
as
anything
that
I've
seen
for
the
port
is
going
to
attract
people
to
come
and
spend
their
money
their
tax
dollars
their
sales
taxes.
So
I
don't
think
we
need
to
be.
H
You
know
like
like
looking
down
at
the
ground
when
we
make
this
request,
we're
basically
giving
the
city
whether
they
have
the
vision
now
or
the
fort
the
vision
now
or
not,
and
they
have
they
have
given
Bernie.
You
know
warm
reception.
I
do
think
that
they
don't
really
want
to
add
any
more
requirements
to
the
rezoning.
That
was
certainly
the
impression
that
Alvin
and
I
got
when
we
met
with
Bernie
the
other
day
that
you
know,
but
but
in
terms
of
the
concept
they
think
it's
a
great
concept
too.
H
So
I
think
we
should
be
very
proud
of
putting
that
request
in
front
of
our
Council
first
and
hopefully
the
council
will
take
it
right
to
the
port
and
and
hopefully
it'll
go
forward,
but
I
do
think
that
is
right
in
the
heart
of
our
mission
and
we're
not
asking
for
charity.
This
is
an
economic
engine
all
of
itself.
F
I
guess
I'd
respond.
You
know
to
what
Marie
said
and
that
you
know
this
is
just
one
data
point,
something
that
happened.
I'd
talk
about
the
North
Charleston,
you
know
County
Council,
not
necessarily
City
here,
but
we
live
in
city
and
the
county.
You
talk
about
what
happened
in
North
Charleston
I
mean
with
the
25
million
dollar.
Oh
there
Wetlands
mitigation
on
watermelon
or
John's
Island
I
can't
remember
which
one
it
is
now
but
I-526.
F
I
mean
I,
look
around
and
I
say
you
know
somewhere
somehow
you
know
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
be
very
cautious
and
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
want
to
do.
You
know
again,
I
totally
agree.
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
You're
right,
it's
a
line
with
what
we
want
to
do,
but
I
have
a
I,
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
just
turning
things.
Oh,
you
know,
I
think
you
all
know
by
now
I'm
a
I'm,
a
small
government
Advocate,
the
less
we
have,
and
so.
A
A
Carol
Jackson's
point
that
this
is
a
pregnant
moment
and
we
have
a
decent
idea.
There's
a
recommendation
on
the
floor
that
we
communicate
to
the
Community
Development
Committee
and
the
mayor
and
city
council
are
support
endorsement
for
the
inclusion
of
a
Renaissance
district
for
black
entrepreneurs
in
the
Redevelopment
plan
for
Union
Pier
in
Downtown,
Charleston.
A
60
000
minimum
six
minimum
almost
60
000
square
feet,
which
is
about
20
percent.
Okay,
all
the
proposed
commercial
space.
So
if
they
go
right,
if
they
shrink
it,
it
could
shrink.
Do
I
mean
just
the
notion
is
60.
000
square
feet
of
three
hundred
thousand
is
twenty
percent
of
three
hundred
thousand,
so
the
20
concept
is
embedded
in
the
invest.
H
A
G
So
I
pretty
well
so
with
the
workshop
follow-up
first,
we
want
to
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
Bonnie.
Thank
you
Bonnie
for
your
leadership
when
it
comes
to
the
survey
those
were
sent
out
to
you
and
we
could
see
which
ones
you
know
have
the
most
priority
and
I
also
have
a
follow-up
meeting
with
good
stock
Consulting
on
next
Wednesday
next
Wednesday,
so
just
to
follow
up
and
see
where
we
need
to
go
as
far
as
continuing
our
relationship
with
them
and
our
truth.
C
H
C
A
So
the
workshop
landed
with
us
identifying
some
actions
that
we
needed
to
take
to
further
develop
our
work
and
the
notion.
The
meetings
that
Adrian
will
be
having
is
to
solicit
a
proposal
from
good
stop
to
help
us
develop
a
strategic
plan
so
that
we
can
move
towards
being
more
more
productive
in
the
Life.
That's
related
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
arpa
fund
spending.
A
The
importance
for
me
is
that
it's
now
oral
intensive
purpose
of
June
getting
entities
under
the
contract
and
having
work
completed
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
is
critical,
and
certainly
we
we
think
we
have
needs
to
meetings
I
just
wanted
to
make
Council.
We
just
wanted
to
make
council
members
aware
of
that
and
that'll
be
discussion.
Okay
with
that,
we
have
a
presentation
from
the
Department
of
planning,
preservation
and
sustainability,
Mr
Robert
Summerfield.
C
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L
L
At
the
same
time,
the
city
was
working
on
the
the
new
city
plan
and
the
planning
department
worked
very
closely
with
Amber
and
the
team
before
Adrian
on
ensuring
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
city
plan
that
it
had
as
a
part
of
its
foundational
elements,
Equity
resilience
and
Equity.
Actually
they
comprise
the
framework
under
which
the
city
plan
was
developed,
I
mean,
in
fact
you
see.
L
Opportunities
for
addressing
Equity
concerns,
resiliency
concerns
throughout
the
document
throughout
all
the
different
statutory
elements
and
sections
that
we
have
so
I
did
want
to
just
kind
of
briefly
talk
about
that.
I
also
wanted
to
talk
about
you
know.
I
know
this
committee
has
taken
up
the
special
report
and
you
all
will
be
making
recommendations
to
council.
The
planning
department,
like
many
other
departments
here
at
the
city,
took
the
work
of
the
special
commission
and
said
okay,
you
know
what
a
lot
of
these
things
are.
One
things
that
are
our
mission
anyway.
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They
don't
require
any
special
authorization
to
do
they're
normal
things
that
we
should
be
doing
anyway,
they're
part
of
the
ethics
of
our
profession
and
our
certification.
So
in
the
planning
department
we
took
the
special
report
and
we
actually
identified
25
work
plan
action
items
across
the
range
of
departments.
We
assign
those
to
have
a
lead
responsible
person,
because
we
all
know
we
can
all
say
we
have
all
these
goals.
L
That's
under
the
heart
recommendations
that
that
Amber
started
and
Adrian's
continuing
that
work,
effort
and
helping
the
planning
department,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward,
not
only
understanding
the
organizational
components
of
what
the
Special
Report
is
intending
in
the
in
the
work
on
Equity,
but
also
how
that
then
can
inform
the
work
that
we
do
as
we're
out
in
the
community.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
blessed
in
in
planning
is,
we
are
very
Community
focused.
A
lot
of
our
work
is
actually
out
in
the
community.
L
A
lot
of
it
is
statutory
rules,
regulations
processes,
we're
going
to
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit
more
when
we
talk
about
the
board,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
that
Community
engagement
having
those
conversations
with
the
community
on
different
aspects
of
what
does
the
future
of
Charleston
look
like,
and
how
can
we
address
some
of
those
inequities
of
the
past
as
we're
moving
forward
and
looking
towards
the
future?
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there.
L
Let
you
all
know
that
we
are
working
on
this
we've
taken
that
work
very,
very
seriously
in
the
planning
department,
and
it
continues
to
be
a
part
of
what
we're
working
on
every
day.
So
with
that.
The
reason
that
I'm
here
today
so
I
did
want
to
just
kind
of
give
this
board
an
an
overview,
or
this
commission
rather
an
overview.
L
L
It's
a
tremendous
amount
of
effort,
a
tremendous
amount
of
Engagement
with
the
community
through
that
process.
So
we
have
two
boards
of
Architectural
Review,
one
large.
They
take
care
of
major
projects,
10
000
square
feet
or
more.
We
have
the
board
of
architectural
small,
which
takes
care
more
smaller
things.
You
want
to
update
your
Charleston
single
change
out
some
windows
or
something
that
would
be
the
board
that
handles
that.
Mostly
we
have
a
board
of
zoning
appeals
that
takes
care
of
site
design.
L
A
lot
of
the
the
variances
related
to
trees
and
other
things
related
to
the
the
site
for
prospective
development
would
go
through
that
board.
If
you
need
a
variance
for
something
and
then
we
have
the
board
of
zoning
peel,
zoning
takes
care
of
things
like
a
lot
of
the
special
exceptions,
so
the
use
stuff,
if
you
have
late
night,
use
things
like
that
they
handle
a
lot
of
those
things.
L
We
have
our
design
review
board
so
in
those
areas
where
we
have
design
review
outside
of
the
old
and
historic
district
so
outside
of
the
older
part
of
the
peninsula,
so
the
Upper
Peninsula
area,
our
Suburban
commercial
corridors,
Sam
Rittenberg,
Savannah,
highway
things
like
that.
That's
where
the
design
review
board
comes
in
and
they
are
going
to
review
new
development
in
those
commercial
things
and
they're
also
going
to
look
at
demolition
of
older
properties
as
well
as
a
part
of
their
preview.
L
Planning
Commission
is
our
our
board
that
oversees
all
of
our
zoning
requests
and
makes
recommendations
to
city
council
about
those
zoning
requests.
And
then
we
have
the
West
Ashley.
Revitalization,
commission
again
big
Focus,
for
this
sport
is
revitalization
of
areas
with
that
have
seen
the
the
business
oftentimes.
L
It's
the
commercial
corridors
where
they've
seen
deterioration
throughout
migration
of
those
businesses,
areas
that
maybe
were
used
for
like
significant,
auto
type,
things
that
maybe
aren't
being
used
anymore
and
how
do
those
transition
into
the
future
Citadel
mall
is
a
big
part
of
of
the
effort
that
the
the
work
looks
at
is
is
how
will
that
redevelop
and
how
did
that
spur
additional
Redevelopment
opportunity
in
West
Ashley?
So,
and
that's
a
very
much
like
this
board.
That
board
is
very
advisory.
L
So
every
year
we
have
folks
in
those
committees
that
are
eligible
or
or
their
terms
have
expired.
We
have
some
boards
where
we
have
actual
term
limits,
so
at
a
certain
point
a
person
will
have
to
step
off
at
least
four
one
term
that,
unlike
some
other
positions,
the
the
term
limits
are
how
consecutive
you
can
you
can
be
on
the
board.
There
is
actually
technically
the
potential
that
someone
could
serve
step
away
from
the
board
for
a
while
and
then
come
back
at
a
future
date.
L
L
So
every
year
in
about
October,
we
begin
to
look
at
all
of
our
boards,
all
those
boards
that
I
just
talked
about
and
we
determine
if
any
of
the
those
seats
are
up
for
due
to
a
term
completing
we
first
take
a
look
at
those
seats
and
say:
okay
to
the
to
the
incumbents,
have
an
interest
in
re-serving,
because
it's
really
important
to
note
that
these
these
board
members
they're
all
just
like
y'all.
They
are
volunteers.
They
receive
no
compensation
because
we
do
most
of
our
meetings
at
the
Gilliard.
L
They
they
do
get
their
parking
covered.
So,
unlike
y'all,
they
they
do
get
their
parking
covered.
But
that's
essentially
that's
essentially
the
compensation
they
get.
Some
of
these
boards,
you
know,
meet
twice
a
month,
so
they
meet
twice
a
month.
They
start
their
meeting
at
4
30
and
often
their
meetings
can
go
particularly
on
a
board
of
Architectural,
Review
or
bza.
If
they
have
a
contentious
item
they're
there
until
10
o'clock
at
night
twice
a
month,
they
are
doing
all
that
preliminary
work.
L
They
get
that
ream
of
public
comments
that
come
through
in
our
written
portal,
24
hours
in
advance
of
the
meeting,
so
they
got
homework.
So
it's
not
just
show
up
in
a
meeting
and
have
a
conversation
just
like
you
all
they
have
homework.
They
have
a
lot
of
work.
Some
days,
excuse
me,
and
they
played
just
a
vital
role
in
helping
to
ensure
that
the
future
of
our
city
continues
along
the
path
of
our
adopted
plans
and
policies
and
guidance
that
the
city
council
has
adopted.
L
So
it's
it's
really
important
that
when
we
do
have
someone
who
wants
to
continue
to
serve
that,
we
we
often
give
the
you
know
make
that
recommendation
to
allow
them
to
continue
to
serve.
Unless
there's
there's
been
some
problem
in
normally
one.
That's
not
really
an
issue
that
we
often
have.
We
have
a
really
good
batch
of
folks
who,
who
generally
want
to
serve,
and
if
they
are
a
problem,
they
just
will
usually
step
away
well
before
anything
like
that.
L
We
will
send
I
will
send
a
memo
to
all
the
members
of
council,
letting
them
know
that
once
again
is
board
appointment
time
we
have,
we
will
be
looking
for,
for
instance,
Architects
for
both
the
board
of
Architectural
Review
and
the
design
review
board.
Looking
for
some
Landscape
Architects
for
Board
of
Architectural
Review
small.
L
That
kind
of
thing
these
all
of
these
boards
do
have
very
technical
position,
requirements
that
that
need
to
be
filled
because
they
all
have
a
technical
aspect
to
our
to
their
their
review
authority
to
the
expectations
of
those
reviews.
So
we'll
put
that
memo
out
in
November
to
members
of
council
asking
them
hey.
If
you've
had
a
constituent
talk
to
you
about
wanting
to
serve
now
is
definitely
the
time
to
make
sure
that
they've
gone
to
the
City's
online
portal.
L
All
of
our
boards
are
are
done
through
an
online
portal
system,
so
any
member
of
our
community
can
go
on
that
portal.
Identify
the
boards
that
they're
interested
in
potentially
serving
on,
provide
the
appropriate
biography
information
and
then
that's
all
available
to
us
for
review
at
the
time
that
we're
looking
to
make
appointments.
L
So
we
send
that
memo
to
the
council
members
about
those
openings
usually
about
January.
We
go
and
review
any
applications
that
have
been
submitted,
taking
those
applications
that
have
been
submitted
through
the
portal.
Looking
at
our
folks
that
want
to
continue
to
serve
on
those
boards,
we
will
then
submit
to
the
mayor
a
list
of
our
recommendations
for
appointments
and
reappointments
to
those
various
boards.
If
he
has
any
concerns
or
his
his
staff
may
have
some
because
again
the
mayor
will
hear
things
that
I
as
planning
director
I,
don't
hear.
L
So
it's
very
good
that
we
give
that
kind
of
double
check
there
and
then
in
February.
We
will
then
take
and
prepare
a
memo
to
all
members
of
council
so
that
they
have
a
heads
up
hey.
These
are
the
folks
that
we
are
looking
to
recommend
for
your
consideration
for
appointment
or
reappointment
to
these
boards.
L
So
when
we're
looking
at
the
each
of
these
boards,
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
internally
is
we
consistently
try
to
ensure
that
we
are
hitting
a
number
of
diversity
metrics.
If
you
would,
those
include.
Do
we
have
a
mix
of
people
of
color?
Do
we
have
men
and
women?
Do
we
have
older
and
younger
again?
The
idea
is
to
have
the
diversity
of
thought.
The
diversity
experience
when
considering
some
of
these
projects.
L
The
other
thing-
and
this
has
been
one-
that's-
become
more
of
an
issue,
not
an
issue.
More
of
a
acknowledgment
recently.
Excuse
me,
sorry,
thank
you
is
ensuring
also
that
we're
we
try
to
diversify
the
boards
by
our
geography
as
well.
So
you
know
that's
one.
We're
I,
don't
know
that
we've
always
thought
about
that
for
every
board,
but
we
we've
been
trying
to
be
much
more
conscious
of
that.
L
So
anyway,
so
we
we
keep
that
in
mind.
We
actively
work
that,
particularly
when
we
have
a
an
architect
opening
you
know
we're
going
to
go
to
AIA,
which
is
the
American
Institute
of
architect
we're
gonna.
Go.
We
actually
ask
incumbents
when
they're
leaving,
if
they
know
someone
who
might
be
interested
in
taking
over
the
the
you
know,
might
be
interested
in
that
seat
coming
up
particularly
Charleston
as
much
as
I
know,
folks
fear
how
big
we're
getting.
L
L
So
we're
also
always
looking
continuous
quality
improvement
was
something
that
I
got
introduced
to
at
a
luckily
a
very
young
age
in
my
in
my
career,
and
so
luckily,
here
in
Charleston,
they've
always
been
doing
this
as
well,
is
taking
a
look
at
our
processes
constantly
and
saying.
Okay,
where
can
we
make
improvements?
L
Our
conversations,
but
that's
a
very
small
poll
people
and
to
be
honest,
that
pull,
looks
a
particular
way
and
has
a
particular
experience
in
general.
I
mean
obviously
not
specifically,
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
change
that
residency
to
say:
okay,
look
if
you're
a
junior
architect
at
that
architectural
firm,
that's
in
the
city
and
you
happen
to
want
to
serve
well.
L
Let's
take
that
expertise
and
oh
by
the
way,
we've
expanded
the
pool
of
potential
folks
and
the
potential
for
greater
diversity
on
those
boards
tremendously,
because
there's
usually
one
or
two
owners
or
principals
of
a
company,
they
could
have
12
20
whatever
number
of
Architects
and
Associates,
and
what
have
you
that
work
at
their
firms?
So
that's
a
big
one.
We
think
another
change
that
we're
hoping
to
move
forward
and
I
think
there's
more
than
adequate
support,
particularly
since
it
was
a
council
member
who
requested
it.
L
It
feels
like
a
no-brainer
now,
but
you
know
adding
additional
boards
or
commissions
that
we
might
go
to
to
look
for
referrals
when
it's
time.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
added
to
this
year's
kind
of
work
plan
is
when
we
send
that
memo
to
the
city
council
in
November
that
says:
hey
we
have
these
openings.
You
guys
are
also
going
to
find
via
Adrian
a
copy
of
that
memo.
To
you
all
saying:
hey
we
have
these
openings.
You
all
have
a
very
different
group
of
circles
and
friends
than
well.
L
You
could
be
great
at
that,
as
particularly
if
we
get
the
residency
change
approved
by
Council,
which
I
fully
expect
we
will.
You
know
again,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
who
won't
know
that
that's
even
an
option
for
them.
So
again
we're
looking
for
every
opportunity,
I
would
ask,
is
individuals
or,
as
a
commission,
you
guys
have
thoughts
on
how
we
can
expand
our
Network
in
terms
of
letting
people
know
when
these
opportunities
are
available
and
try
to
recruit
them
to
submit
for
we
are.
J
I
I
have
a
question.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation,
I
appreciate
that,
are
you
aware
of
any
cities
or
towns
or
jurisdictions
that
may
have
provided
sort
of
a
scholarship
fund
for
people
to
get
a
little
bit
more
financial
diversity?
So
I
was
just
thinking
about
you
know,
you're,
talking
about
how
a
lot
of
people
on
commissions
are
similar
in
a
way
you
know
we're.
Business
owners
are
retired,
so
we
can
be
here.
J
L
So
absolutely
so,
there
actually
are
a
number
of
communities.
They
are
usually
larger
communities
who
have
a
kind
of
a
social
Equity
spend
as
a
part
of
their
kind
of
established
budget,
isn't
a
separate
thing
that
have
been
young
looking
at
providing
services
in
in
I.
Think
I
can't
remember
it's
somewhere
in
the
Boston
area
that
there's
a
community
that
actually
provides
like
they
used
to
do
this
in
church.
L
So
you
go
to
church
and
there'd
be
the
nursery
for
the
you
know,
the
kids
that
couldn't
go
to
Sunday
school,
but
you
know
so
that
Mom
and
Dad
could
be
a
part
of
the
the
church
service,
so
they're
offering
child
care
for
not
just
the
board
members,
but
also
constituents
who
don't
you
know,
are
concerned
about
bringing
out
little
Johnny
to
a
board
meeting
and
having
them
sit
in
there.
Where
there
may
be
very
adult.
L
You
know,
discussion
I
mean
yeah,
especially
these
days.
So
so
there
are.
There
are
examples
out
there.
I
was
just
actually
reading
a
study
completely
independent
of
coming
here
today.
That
was
talking
more
specifically
about
some
practices
that
can
be
cause
an
opportunity
for
more
inclusion
in
the
participation
both
from
a
community
level,
as
well
as
a
board
participation
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
folks
that
end
up
serving
on
boards
are
people
who
are
self-employed.
They
are
folks
who
are
retirees.
L
They
are
folks
who
own
the
businesses
and
therefore
have
a
lot
more
freedom
on
their
time
and
say:
hey
I'm,
dropping
out
early,
because
I've
got
a
city
commission
meeting,
and
so
there
are
some
strategies
that
are
out
there.
There
are
communities
that
are
working
on
those
they
generally
do
have
a
financial
component
to
them.
I
have
heard
of
the
stipend
thing
so,
instead
of
providing
the
facility,
you
provide
a
stipend
that
then
hopefully
helps
that
that
participant
offset
their
you
know
their
cost
to
participate.
L
In
some
cases,
I've
even
heard
of
you
know,
like
board
members
get
like
a
transit
pass
or
something
like
that
in
some
communities
again,
providing
just
another
way
for
people
to
be
able
to
connect,
because
maybe
parking's,
expensive
or
just
the
transportation
isn't
available
for
some
folks
who
might
otherwise
want
to
participate.
Tom.
A
L
Yeah,
like
so
yes
yeah,
so
in
Las
Vegas,
which
is
the
jurisdiction
I
came
to
before
here
some
boards
because
of
the
the
the
kind
of
additional
burden.
If
you
would
that
participating
in,
they
actually
got
paid.
Now
it
was
a
moderate
amount,
so
the
Planning
Commission
got
paid
80
a
meeting,
so
it's
not
a
huge
amount,
but
eighty
dollars
for
most
meetings,
maybe
that's
the
babysitter,
maybe
that's
the
babysitter
and
pizza
for
the
night.
A
A
L
L
There
needs
to
be
a
certain
level
of
understanding
of
things
as
a
board,
but
not
necessarily
as
every
individual
board
member,
which
is
why
again
we're
looking
at
if
there
are
boards
that
we
have
that
don't
currently
have
a
lay
person
or
kind
of
an
at-large
position,
adding
that
additional
C,
so
that
again
we
can
get
that
more.
You
know
every
man
kind
of
thought,
piece
of
it.
That
may
not
be
you
know,
because
you
know
Architects
can
planners.
We
can
be.
You
know,
stop
talking
about
us
all
of
us.
L
A
I
raised
I
raised
that
question
in
the
criminal
justice
area
that
that
group
came
up
with
the
notion
that
we
needed
to
review
ordinances.
Perhaps
that
had
criteria
in
it
that
unintentionally
right
right
discriminated
so
the
the
question
there
is
whether
or
not
the
things
that
are
baked
already
baked
into
I,
see
you
adding
yes,
adding
the
questions,
whether
or
not
they
are
well
there's
a
balance
or
barrier
not
not
suggesting
that
to
reduce
the
technical
capacity,
but
nonetheless
have
have
a
different.
So,
for
example,
I'm
not
a
licensed
architect.
A
Okay,
but
I
am
a
former
city
planner
right
right
on
the
the
notion
of
only
fitting
into
the
at-large
citizency.
Okay,
as
opposed
to
being
able
to
participate,
is,
is
just
an
example.
That's
one
question
the
other
question
and
this
probably
links
to
our
internal
review
discussion
or
their
demographics
age,
race,
gender
kind
of
analysis
that
that
you've
done
on
your
boards.
L
L
We
do
have
some
boards
that
are
more
balanced
racially
than
others.
Unfortunately,
you
know
our
our
Architectural
Review
boards
tend
to
be
more
white
than
anything
else.
Our
Planning
Commission
is
actually
pretty
diverse
or
relatively
speaking
so,
but
we
don't
have
an
actual
demographic
report.
I
mean
I
again,
I,
don't
like
to
assume
on
people.
So
I
would
like
to
survey
the
folks
and
have
them
tell
us.
You
know
tell.
A
K
There
we
go
sorry
interesting
phone
conversation.
I
was
able
to
dial
in.
For
me,
the
two
takeaways
are
how
similar
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we're
in
encountering
is
exactly
the
same
as
before,
particularly
within
understanding
how
the
city
government
works
and
the
challenge
of
community
engagement.
Those
are
my
two
takeaways,
but
basically
I
found
it
very
educational
thanks
Adrian
for
setting
that
up,
I
was
on
a
phone
so
funny
any
other
comments
or.
C
K
G
The
internal
review
did
meet.
We
were
on
a
call
with
those
who
are
on
this
committee
and
one
of
well.
We
had
two
recommendations
that
we
thought
would
need
to
be
prioritized,
which
are
that
all
city
employees
have
an
email
address
and
also
about
the
time
keeping
so
right.
Now
the
city
employees
work
off
of
a
timesheet,
and
it
is
my
understanding
that
the
city
has
signed
a
contract
for
I.
Think
it's
work
day
or
hour
day,
one
of
those
softwares
I,
don't
want
to
miss
being
that
I'm
going
to
be
reported.
G
H
So
I
I
think
our
recommendation
about
the
time
sheets,
and
all
of
that
is
that
it's
great.
If
if
the
city
has
already
signed
the
contract,
but
we
just
want
to
keep
it
moving.
So
we
want
to
be
the
bird
dog
to
make
sure
that
it's
implemented
is
efficiently
and
effectively
as
possible
and
the
city,
email
I.
Think
that
was
very
mind
catching
to
each
of
us
as
we
as
we
found
out
through
Adrian.
H
Just
she
found
out
by
asking
because
I
I
guess
there's
information
that
needs
to
go
to
the
entire
employee
base
of
the
city,
and
whenever
that
information
is
circulated
by
email,
then
there's
usually
another
notice
that
is
produced
that
will
be
for
the
people
who
do
not
have
their
own
individual
email
address
in
whatever
Department
they're
serving.
So
it
has
to
go
on
a
bulletin
board
over
the
coffee
pot
or
wherever
they
would
be
most
likely
to
see
it
in
the
ladies
room.
H
It
that
that
just
seemed
so
so
surprising
to
us
that
we
that
we
are
definitely
recommending
that
the
city
do
whatever
it
takes
to
give
every
single
employee,
no
matter
what,
where
they
serve
their
own
City
email
address,
that
they
can
be
treated
equitably
when
it's
come
to
get
that
get
the
information.
That's
going
to
the
rest
of
the
staff
and
communicate
among
themselves.
G
C
H
Suggestion
that
we
were
I,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
take
up
was
was
made
by
council
member
seekings
to
to
use
the
his
he
has.
He
has
several
ideas
about
how
City
departments
could
be
better
organized
to
be
more
effective,
efficient,
whatever
the
ultimate
outcome
goals
would
be,
and
the
first
meeting
that
we
had
is
the
internal
review
working
group
was
to
to
tell
him
that
we
agreed
that
he
could.
You
know
take
that
up
as
a
as
a
as
a
work
effort
for
us
and
I
thought
that
it
was.
H
He
was
supposed
to
go
to
the
human
resources
staff
and
ask
for
it
literally
just
the
the
pay
reports
between
the
traffic
enforcement
and
the
no
planning
department
and
traffic
and
transportation,
because
he
thinks
that
those
two
departments
should
really
work
in
tandem
with
each
other,
if
not
under
one
One
Umbrella.
So
he
hasn't
been
in
another
session
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
been
any
progress
along
those
lines.
C
C
C
J
The
outcomes
which
was
the
foliage
of
the
tree
right,
so
we
we
were
sort
of
brainstorming.
What
are
the
outcomes
we
want
and
then
the
roots
were
the
most
important
ways
to
get
there,
and
so
that
is
what
we
were
working
on
with
that
and
so
I
think.
Just
thinking
about
that,
you
know,
and
each
subcommittee
can
focus
on
those
recommendations
in
figuring
out
what
what
work
is
most
important
and
as
a
whole
committee
used
to
do
that
as
a
whole.
Commission.
A
C
A
I
took
away
what
I
thought
to
serve.
The
purpose
of
survey
was
to
inform
the
conversations
that
Adrian
would
be
having
with
the
good
stock
approach
about
how
to
move
us
from
where
we
ended
the
conversation
into
a
strategic,
a
strategic
action
plan
on
and
the
in
the.
Meanwhile,
what
was
the
number
one.
A
Yeah,
so
with
that,
with
that
in
mind,
the
the
question
of
prioritizing
continued
continues
to
come
forward.
The
the
work
of
the
subcommittees
and
a
good
example
from
maternal
Affairs.
This
time
they
came
up
with
several
specific
items,
continue
to
bring
to
bring
those
forward.
While
we
still
take
a
look
back
at
trying
to
get
to
the
heavy
lifts.
A
A
There
are
meetings
and
activities
around
that
that
we
can
go
to
and
encourage
people
if
they
have
an
idea,
particularly
during
as
the
city
begins,
to
move
toward
its
budget
budget
cycles,
that
people
have
ideas
or
things
that
are
important.
That
should
be
raised
still
with
spending
on
money,
smarter.