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Description
Human Affairs and Racial Conciliation Commission 1/12/2023
B
B
A
A
Well:
okay,
the
unfortunately
you'll
note
that
our
manager
of
the
hawk
office,
Adrian
Swinton,
is
not
with
us.
She
had
a
death
in
the
family,
her
uncle
passed
today
and
our
thoughts
and
prayers
are
with
her
in
in
that
situation,
Jason
and
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
chat
with
her
so
Jason.
You
want
to
share
some
of
the
the
date
notes
that
she
provided
yeah
sure.
C
Thank
you,
chair,
co-chair,
so
bullet
point
two
here
the
vacancies.
Obviously,
that
is
being
cleared
right
in
front
of
our
eyes.
We've
got
our
our
two
new
members,
one
event
just
halfway:
there
we'll
get
that
notification
formally
and
obviously
having
Reverend
Shoemaker
who's.
Also,
my
Reverend
and
there's
also
just
for
those
that
are
listening
is
the
Reverend
at
St
Stevens
Episcopal,
which
is
a
stone's
throw
from
from
here.
C
C
C
Believe
the
December
December
20th
meeting
council
members
received
that
we
will
have
a
report
given
by
Ms
swin
at
the
next
council
meeting,
which
is
going
to
be
January
24th
and
that
work
plan
will
be
summoned
then
and
discussed
then,
because
basically
I
think
as
a
council
member,
it's
helpful
to
know
what
Newton's
working
on
and
also
as
part
of
that
work
plan
embedded
in
that
work
plan
are
the
recommendations
that
we've
come
come
with.
The
first
three
subcommittees
and
Jerry
remind
me
of
and
Carol
the
three
subcommittees
they've
already
subscribe.
A
C
C
A
There
are
a
couple
of
additional
points.
We
probably
should
circulate
the
job
description
for
the
position.
Yes,
because
the
job
description
just
includes
responsibilities
of
the
manager
for
various
forms
of
oversight
and
monitoring
and
Advising
the
city
on
human,
human,
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Discrimination
activities,
so
100
of
our
time
is.
A
To
the
work
of
commission,
in
our
conversation,
we
want
to
be
sure
certain
that
it
was
who
can
manage
expectations
that
we
knew
what
portion
of
retirement
is
available
to
us
and,
as
we
say,
our
priorities
and
that
which
activities
and
shoot
we'll
be
bringing
coming
forward.
With
that
on
the
workshops,
she
has
confirmed
the
availability
of
funding.
We
have
a
consultant
who
submitted.
A
In
regard
to
the
rapid
transit
project,
she
foresees
being
collaboration
opportunities
with
the
ongoing
transitory
development
study
that
is
being
conducted
to
address
livability
and
affordability.
The
Todd
phase,
2.,
that's
transitory
development
phase.
Two
will
have
a
kickoff
either
this
February
or
March.
A
E
A
In
addition,
she's
met
with
the
staff
who
were
responsible
for
the
economic
Mobility
program
study
if
you
will
funded
by
the
national
league
of
cities,
and
we
anticipate
some
of
those
responsibilities
and
activities
being
able
to
tie
into
the
work
of
the
economic,
economic,
empowerment,
recommendations
and
I.
Think
that's.
C
C
We
looked
look
at
all
those
priorities
and
kind
of
figured
out
through
those
lens
which
ones
would
move
forward,
which
ones
wouldn't
move
forward.
So
we're
at
this
critical
point
where
we've
got
four
additional
subcommittees
that
were
part
of
the
special
commission
and
again,
those
were
Youth
and
Education
Health
disparities,
internal
review
and
history
and
culture.
So
our
next
phase
now
is
you,
come
on
we'll
be
looking
at
those
recommendations
in
that
special
commission
report
through
the
lens
of
those
four
topic
areas.
C
So
we'll
have
that
group
working
and
then
also
we
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
the
recommendations
that
we
parsed
out
from
the
previous
three
start,
putting
those
on
an
agenda
kind
of
legislative
agenda
for
our
standing
committees.
So
there's
kind
of
three
two
things
that
are
going
to
be
happening
simultaneously.
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
aware
of
that.
D
C
The
first
charge
was
to
look
at
the
125
recommendations
from
the
special
commission,
and
so
once
we
get
that
done
correctness.
The
next
charge
would
be
if
there's
any
additional
recommendations,
but
we've
been
filtered
through
this
commission
be
approved
by
this
commission
and,
ultimately
that
approval
would
get
us
to
a
place
where
they
would
be
then
filtered
to
a
standing
committee
and
a
standing
committee
that
discuss
those
expectations
does.
C
A
One
of
the
things
that
Adrian
is
will
be
focusing
on
is
updating
our
contact
list,
adding
adding
everybody's
names
and
contact
information
also,
who
will
be
appointed
individual,
was
so
that
we
can
in
fact,
I
mean
when
you
look
at
the
list
of
which
standing
committees
we're
talking
to
if
the
members
of
your
Council,
your
your
pointer
is,
is
on
that
same
committee.
You
have
a
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
them
a
little
bit
to
if
they
have
questions
about
what
our
recommendations
are.
So
that's
going
to
be
important.
A
Also,
I
was
looking
in
my
packet
for
the
rules
that
we
adopted
and
I
know.
We
made
some
slight
changes
to
the
draft,
so
we
should
also
put
that
together
in
in
the
package
of
all
with
the
the
ordinance
and
each
of
the
members
should
be
also
receive
copy.
The
special
condition
report
and
the
study
disparity
study
done
by
the
Avery
Institute,
which
is
kind
of
the
foundation
document.
All
that
is
homework
in
preparation
for
our
workshops,
eyes
as
every
report.
A
F
Me
Jerry
I
have
a
question:
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
what
you
said.
I
think
I
heard
you
say
that
the
dates
for
the
workshops
are
not
said.
That's
correct
because
you
know
based
on
the
minutes
from
last
time
they
were
sent
and
I
have
them
on
my
calendar,
so
I
need.
You
know
if
you're
saying
that's
not
the
dates.
I.
A
C
A
A
Okay,
actually,
a
very
quick
meeting
in
December,
which
you
guys
had
on
my
birthday.
You
improved
the
the
progress
progress
report
that
was
drafted
and
sent
forward.
I
was
wondering
whether
or
not
there
were
any
observations.
Questions
concerns
particularly
I
think
what
what
Adrian
did
was
take
the
information
that
each
of
the
subs
working
groups
put
together
and
kind
of
cobbled
it
cobbled
it
together.
A
B
B
A
Right
so
the
notion,
the
notion
is
that,
along
with
our
initial
progress
reports,
the
communicating
to
the
council-
and
hopefully
them
communicating
out
to
the
members
of
the
special
commission
thanks
for
the
service,
all
right
in
terms
of
that
work-
that
the
information
that
they
provide
us
with
allows
us
to
set
to
move
forward.
And
hopefully
they
just
be
invited
to
the
meeting
all
right
and
be
acknowledge.
A
Okay,
I,
we
have
asked
Adrian
to
place
the
progress
report
online,
so
it
would
be
available
to
the
public
I
think
there
are
probably
a
couple.
You
know
needed
no
introduction
supposed
to
know
what
this
report
is.
There
may
be
a
couple
of
minor
grammatically
spelling
errors
that
need
to
be
corrected,
but
hopefully
the
corrected
version
will
be
available
so
well
in
advance
of
the
meeting
of
the
24th.
A
A
A
A
The
question
of
how
we
this
is
where
the
notion
of
talking
to
your
member
of
council
was
on
that
committee
right,
while
Adrian
would
stop
speaking
to
the
chair
to
make
sure
it
gets.
Let's
get
scheduled,
she'll
communicate
to
us
what
is
scheduled
right
and
we'll
ask
you
to
make
certain
that
you
speak
with
your
council
member
appointed
council
member
who's
on
that
committee.
Okay,
so
that
they
have
the
benefit
of
the
level
of
information
that
you
have
about
about
this.
A
The
video
from
recommendations
that
are
coming
forward
and
I
think
that
that,
because
that
becomes
part
of
our
work,
each
of
us
as
that
process
that
process
plays
itself
out.
In
addition,
then
we
have
these
other
four.
You
know
the
first
round
in
order
to
get
a
to
meet
the
deadline.
We
chose
three
to
provide
and
commentary
for
as
well
as
describing
what
we're
doing
as
a
body
to
evolve.
A
The
question
is:
what
is
up
you
know,
what's
your
pleasure,
do
we
now
that
we
have
we'll
have
13
members?
You
know
have
four
to
many
three
people
on
a
work
group
and
each
tackle
one
or
do
the
if
we
set
a
goal,
for
example,
would
be
having
all
four
done
by
July,
assuming
that
we
take
January
and
February
reaction
response
get
started
in
March,
April,
May
and
June.
That
would
give
us
four
right.
We
could
do
one
per
month
as
another
another
model
or
we
could
do
some.
A
C
D
E
A
E
A
E
A
So,
what's
your
thoughts,
I
mean
the
work
is
to
delve
into
the
reports.
The
special
commission
recommendations
look
at
what's
in
the
master
plan,
assess
as
best
we
can
with
feedback
from
the
core
group.
What
council
and
the
administration
is
doing
that
might
be
related
to
what's
in
the
special
commission
report
or
in
the
master
plan
and
then
make
recommendations
right?
That's
that's.
Basically,
the
the
work
we've
got.
Four
additional
groups:
internal
review,
speaks
to
kind
of
cross-cutting
across
all
City
departments
and
agencies.
A
The
housing
excuse
me
the
culture,
history
and
culture
and
health
and
environment,
kind
of
Standalone,
the
youth
and
education
again,
Standalone
so
and
I
know.
This
is
a
a
question
of
where
people
kind
of
passionate
might
be.
You
know
with
your
passions,
you
know
we
have
no
passion
threats
of
you
two
at
a
time.
That's
one
thing:
if
you
don't
have
enough
passion
and
we
need
to
do
one
make
sure
that
we
do
it
thoroughly,
you
know
each
month.
C
C
Opinions
on
this,
but
having
served
on
a
special
commission
I,
could
tell
you
that
the
youth
in
an
education
component
is
a
bit
of
anomaly,
because
we
don't
have
a
direct
standing
committee
that
can
funnel
those
recommendations
and
I
will
say
that
the
recommendations
May
say
the
the
most
supportive
supportive
way
possible.
I,
don't
know
if
there
are
specific
recommendations
that
Council.
C
B
E
C
E
E
You
know
internally,
so
I,
don't
see
how
we
can
really
go
independent
of
the
work
that
Asian
is
doing
on
that
problem,
so
I
would
sort
of
take
that
one
offline
too,
or
at
least
you
know,
we
could
have
like
a
working
group
that
met
with
her
in
the
court
group
and
sort
of
fleshed
out
the
things
that
they
want
to
put
forward
to
the
council
in
a
in
the
next
six
month.
Time
frame,
but
not
really
take
leading
responsibility
to
work
on
that
topic.
G
C
A
A
We
should
add
urge
the
members
Commissioners
to
take
a
look
at
the
recommendations
and
take
a
look
again
at
the
master
plan
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
sets
off
bells
in
your
head.
That
excites
you,
because
it's
it
is
work
to
be
done.
If
you're
interested
is
better,
have
folks
working
on
something
they're
interested
in
and
stuff
they
just
got
to
do
before.
A
We
must
assign
you
to
something
because
everybody
we're
going
to
ask
everyone
to
participate
on
on
one
of
the
the
workers,
my
two
cents
on
the
internal
review,
for
example,
and
well,
let
me
let
me
do
use
and
education
Okay,
so
Tuesday
night
city
council
had
a
conversation
about
Crossings
in
schools
and
there
was
a
discussion
about
well
the
this
District
discontinued
across
the
guards.
Jason
said
no,
the
sheriff's
department
is
responsible
for
Corpses
councilman.
A
Waring
then
said
he
got
to
know
from
a
former
judge
McFarland
at
the
city
used
to
hire
staff
across
England,
okay.
So
the
whole
question
of
you
know
the
city's
role
all
right
in
education.
What
it
is
one
of
the
pushbacks
or
to
a
special
permission?
Well,
if
it's
not
a
the
city,
doesn't
have
a
direct
role
and-
and
this
is
an
example
where
there
is
a-roll
and
a
relationship.
A
The
city
has
a
school
resource
officers
right
in
the
buildings.
Okay-
and
there's
a
discussion
about
that.
So
while
there's
not
a
I
mean
it
could
be
I
guess
a
school
resource
officers
could
go
through
the
Public,
Safety
Committee
all
right,
and
because
the
use
and
Youth
Development
stuff
speaks
to
Recreation
right.
A
There
could
be
a
link
there,
so
I'm,
just
saying
and
summer's.
Coming
and
last
summer
we
had
a
problem
with
the
pools
not
to
be
perhaps
not
being
open
and
that
that
goes
up
to
a
level
and
a
question
of
which
foods
are
open
and
which
ones
are
not,
and
what
neighborhood
and
who
has
access,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
there
are
Equity
questions
and
while
it
is
not
necessarily
in
the
master
plan,
does
have
a
recreation
component
to
it.
A
So
I
just
just
to
say
that
we
said
completely
step
back
from
that.
Have
us
think
about
it.
Okay
and
at
that
internal
review,
this
is
the
old
city
administrator
right,
the
processes
of
hiring
training,
recruitment
retention
and,
and
all
of
that
cuts
across
all
all
the
Departments,
as
is
clearly
the
intersectional
kind
of
kind
of
situation,
and
the
other
thing
that
the
master
plan
speaks
to
that
we
commented
on.
Our
initial
report
was
the
need
for
enhanced.
A
Citizen
engagement
and
participation
right
and
that
because,
of
course,
all
departments,
it
is
some
concern
also
about
accessibility
through
I.T
and
social
media
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
which
you
know
we
struggle
with.
As
a
commission
and
other
departments
struggle
with
terms
of
good
things
happening.
Folks,
don't
know
about
it.
Okay,
bad
things
happen.
A
I
would
put
internal
affairs
on
the
front
end
because
it
cuts
across
all
departments
and
agencies,
the
city's
talking
about
problems
of
retention,
all
right
in
hiring
and
if
we
can
be
helpful
to
them
in
terms
of
thinking
through
that,
what
the
equity
lens
and
the
master
plan
also
speaks
to
that
kind
of
a
as
a
concern.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
So
this
is
my
my
own
species.
C
I
want
to
clarify
my
my
comments
about
Youth
and
education,
because
I
feel,
like
I,
didn't,
do
a
good
job
articulating
that
so
I
I'm,
passionate
about
public
education
and
I
work
for
the
school
district.
I
think
it
should
be
the
priority,
which
is
why
I
actually
think
we
should
take
it
off
because
I'm
when
I'm.
Looking
at
the
recommendations
that
were
made,
I'm
looked
at
I've
looked
at
the
recommendations
and
the
recommendations
are
not.
C
They
were
not
up
to
the
snuff
that
I
think
this
group
could
assemble
and
if
we
put
our
heads
together
in
Focus
solely
on
that
also
prioritizing
our
time
over
the
next
couple
months.
If
the
pleasure
of
this
group
and
the
commission
is
to
divide
those,
you
know
four
I'm
finding
that
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
priority
of
our
time.
The
Houston
education
piece
I
think
we
could
put
together
some
stronger,
more
alignable
recommendations
that
are
more
relevant.
C
For
example,
the
crossing
guards
the
summer
opportunities
for
our
students.
I
have
said
on
record
and
Carol's
been
there
I
think
the
city
should
be
more
involved
in
our
youth
activities
at
the
city
level
and
we're
not
so,
but
those
weren't
reflective
in
the
special
commission
recommendations
is
what
I'm
saying
and.
E
E
A
E
D
E
Of
Adrian's
work
and
I
do
think
that
we
should,
you
know,
sort
of
respect
the
and
and
work
in
parallel
or
tandem,
but
not
say
that
we're
gonna
form
a
little
working
group
that
she
basically
just
listens
to
us
and
and
come
back
with
things
that
you
know
would
not
be
in
alignment
or
would
not
be
supportive
of
the
internal
review
that
she
has
put
together.
You
know
her
colleagues
within
the
staff
to
really
take
on
some
of
that,
and
then
we
can
be
a
backstop.
E
A
A
One
of
the
things
that's
really
interesting
to
me
is
that
the
city,
for
example,
what's
this
carrying
the
fair
housing
and
fair
housing
ordinance
on
the
agenda?
That's
been
deferred
a
couple
of
times
and
part
of
what
our
charge
is
kind
of
bounces
up
against
the
State
human
affairs
housing
stuff.
You
know
the
Who's
got
what
Authority
and
if
you
know
we,
you
know
that's
a
piece
of
the
housing
component
that
we
did
not
talk
about.
A
There
is
a
challenge
there.
Also
at
the
council
meeting
there
was
discussion
about
taking
advantage
of
the
state
statute
236,
which
allows
for
raising
revenue
for
special
purposes,
and
you
know
at
the
local
level.
So
the
question
of
whether
or
not
any
of
the
recommendations
that
we're
talking
about
all
right
has
relevance
for
230.
So
we
need
to.
We
need
to
get
smart
about
what
that
means
and
know
whether
or
not
that's
something
that
we
can
foster
a
conversation.
Of
course,
our
conversation.
G
Just
to
expand
on
that
I
think
that's
such
a
good
point
and
and
I'll
tell
you
that
there
is
a
lot
of
willingness
on
city
council
right
now
to
be
creative
with
how
we
use
that
power
for,
however
long
we
have
it
so
I
mean
like
really
as
we're
going
through
this
and
identifies
you
know.
Maybe
there's
a
maybe
there's
a
funding
challenge
to
implementing
something
think
about
who
we
can
put
a
fee
on
and
what
we
can
call
it
to
emphasize.
C
To
that,
because
I
know
there
are
folks
listening
here
in
this
room
and
myself
who
are
you
know,
oftentimes
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
physically
responsible
people
talk
about
taxes,
I
want
to
set
the
stage
for
folks,
particularly
here
in
in
listening.
The
city
has
very
limited,
Authority
and
ability
to
raise
taxes.
Our
our.
E
C
C
C
The
other
night
was
around
school
crossing
guards
and
funding.
You
know
improvements
to
streets
where
Noah,
instead
of
having
to
go
to
the
county
state,
wondering
how
we're
going
to
get
that
funding.
This
could
be
a
potential
source
of
this
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
for
folks
listening
that
the
city
is
really
hamstrung
and.
F
Thank
you
thanks
Jason
now
you
know
I'll
pitch
in
here
and
that's
the
first
thing
I'd
say
is
I'm
a
smaller
government
advocate
Jason
and
other
council
members
heard
from
me
before
the
last
meeting
about
the
potential
increase
in
property
taxes
and
I
reminded
him
and
them
that
you
know
not
only
you
know
were
you
looking
at
that,
but
the
County
Council
is
also
looking
to
say
well
how?
Where
can
we
get
ours?
F
So,
as
a
concerned,
citizen
of
the
City
of
Charleston
Jason,
you
know
and
I
want
to
get
him
Kudos.
He
responded.
He
gave
me
a
very
thoughtful
response
and
I
really
appreciate
that
and
that's
what
I
think
our
city
councilman
need
to
do
is
respond
to
you
and
let
you
know.
Okay,
here
are
all
the
facts,
and
but
you
know
so
again:
I
I.
E
Well,
let's,
let's
just
say
the
the
main
example
that
I
heard
the
council
discuss
as
an
illustration
of
what
this
new
act.
236
empowers
municipalities
to
do
or
enables
municipalities
that
their
their
example
was
adding
a
flat
rate
fee
on
every
hotel
reservation.
So
I
think
that's
the
common
practice.
It's
not
to
go
after
extra
money
out
of
citizens
Pockets,
but
it's
to
be
as
inventive
as
possible
about
the
users
of
the
city
that
really
do
not
pay
their
fair
share
to
be
those
users.
G
We're
sort
of
getting
on
a
tangent
here,
but
these
these
fees
are
that
are
the
type
of
you
know
it's
it's
like
it's
like
a
gas
tax,
it
is
I
mean
even
if
you're
a
Libertarian.
This
is
a
perfect
tax.
It's
you
know
it's
it's
paid
by
the
people
who
derive
the
most
use
out
of
whatever
it
is,
and
we
can
Target
it.
So
it's
not
spreading
to
those
who
don't
use
it
or
we
can
spread
it
broadly
and
it
can
be
shared
by
by
a
lot.
G
So
and
that's
that's
what
I
mean
nobody
wants
to
overburden
them
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
just
making
recommendations
to
city,
council
and
city
council
certainly
take
that
into
account.
I
contagious
from
my
perspective
that
property
tax
appears
in
an
email,
I'm
going
to
get
100
responses
and
with
with
repeated
follow-up,
which
is,
which
is
a
great
thing
and
I
and
I
love
having
that
back
and
forth
with
people,
but
so.
F
E
F
By
the
state
you
know
which
Governor
Haley
signed
you
know
years
ago
and
unfortunately
yeah
many
of
you
I'm
sure
see
in
the
newspaper,
our
roads
don't
appear
to
have
improved
to
the
level
that
many
thought
would
happen
with
those
increased
taxes.
So
again
you
know
it's
just
a
matter
of
you
know
what
your
perspective
is
on.
You
know,
what's
being
asked
to
be
paid
and
then
what
do
we
see
really
happening
as
a
result
of
that.
A
A
Somebody
to
put
a
ribbon
on
this,
we
are
going
to
think
about
which
of
the
four
remaining
areas.
So
we
need
to
move
on
we'll
sharpen
our
focus
on
what
it
looks
like.
We
have
to
follow
up
on
the
three
that
we've
already
recommended
right
and
by
February
half,
hopefully
the
first
Workshop
right
that
will
equip
us
to
be
more
ready
to
do
the
work
that
we
need
to
do,
and
it's
it's
I,
think
our
interests.
A
It
would
be
in
our
interest
to
be
in
a
situation
where
we've
completed
the
review
of
the
other
four
four
or
three
or
whatever
we're
doing
you
know
by
July
all
right.
So
we're
again
in
that.
In
that
framework,
okay,
right,
you've
had
pretty
good
open
discussion.
Is
there
any
anything
folks,
any
other
items
to
also
like
to
bring
to
the
table
for
General
discussion
thanks.
E
E
He
was
Alvin
Smith,
economic
empowerment
anyway,
Sky
said,
if
anyone
doesn't
know
that
they
have
just
grown
in
stature
by
Leaps
and
Bounds
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
think
a
lot
of
attention
was
paid
to
opening
what
they
call
the
Opportunity
Center.
That's
a
great
facility
up
on
Rivers
Avenue,
where
no
one
would
have
ever
had
a
reason
to
go
except
now
they're
there
and
they
host
a
variety
of.
E
But
this
webinar
that
they
had
today
was
targeted
on
the
three
lobbying
efforts
they're
going
to
take
up
with
the
state
legislature
this
year
and
if
it
carries
over
into
next
year
and
I,
the
the
presentation
that
was
given
on
the
webinar
wasn't
online
by
the
time
I
got
here.
So
I
can't
respect
that
the
one
that
I
think
would
be
a
really
good
thing
for
us
to
dovetail
into
an
economic
empowerment
activity
is
they're
going
to
lobby
for
a
return
of
what
they
call
individual.
E
So
they're
they're
going
to
be
working
on
that
one
it
it
dropped
off
the
city's.
You
know
budgeting
priorities
I
think
two
administrations
ago,
but
that
they
they
definitely
want
to
bring
it
back
and
the
other
one
is
they're
going
to
lobby
for
a
calf
on
the
the
lending
rate,
the
debt
rate
that
payday
loan
purveyors
can
charge,
and,
and
so
that
needs
a
lot
of
people,
they
want
people
to
go,
go
into
their
churches
and
get.
E
You
know,
people
writing
letters
when
it
comes
time
to
supporting
whatever
Bill
they're
going
to
be
putting
forward.
So
when
I
can
get
a
hold
of
their
their
efficacy
efforts.
Presentation
I
think
would
be
worth
us
looking
at
it
in
February
and
seeing
how
we
might
be
able
to
help
out
because
they're
all
right,
in
line
with
the
disparities
that
we're
trying
to
deliver
positive
Improvement
against.
A
I
that
that's
a
good
point:
the
city's
ran
from
National
League
of
cities,
which
was
supposed
to
be
about
economic
Mobility.
Right
has
some
data
right.
That
might
be
helpful
in
making
presentations,
or
perhaps
we
should
have
asked
somebody
to
come
in
order
to
a
future
meeting
to
talk
to
us
about
what
she
found.
So
we
can
look
that
up.
B
B
Yes,
it
will
take
energy,
but
it's
it's
going
to
take
money
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Yes,
I
mean
yeah
I
get
it.
We
don't
want
to
raise
taxes,
we
don't
do
anything.
That's
going
to
blow
up
Stephen
you
out,
because
email,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
think
of
ways
to
be
creative
in
which
we
can
get
the
funding
and
the
sources
need
to
build
push
this
work
forward.
B
B
Maybe
it's
a
function
of.
Maybe
we
do
have
the
money,
but
maybe
it
should
be
appropriated
differently
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
those
are
the
recommendations
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
make
as
a
as
a
commission.
We
might
not
all
agree
on
it,
but
we
can't
push
this
work
forward
without
money
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
that
being
part
of
the
conversation,
so
just
something
to
think
about
just
want
to
point
that
out
there
for
folks
so
yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
going
to.
B
E
E
D
C
C
So
I
will
simply
say
the
word
reparations
was
in
the
special
commission
and
it
made
a
lot
of
folks
bristle
because
they
didn't
quite
understand
or
their
interpretation
about
that
is,
is
in
terms
of
different
places.
You
know
it
comes
in
different
ways:
I
had
a
very
honest
discussion
with
my
in-laws,
who
tend
to
vote
a
bit
differently
than
I
do
and
had
explained
to
them
what
they
live
in
Asheville
and
I.
Believe
Asheville
provided
direct
preparations.
I
can't.
C
C
C
It's
good
time,
I
think
to
elven's
point.
This
is
going
to
be
the
work.
It's
been
fairly
easy
up
until
this
point,
but
to
albums
by
now
just
I'm,
not
speaking
portality
but
I'm
here,
because
I
want
to
get
us
to
a
point
where
we
leave
sometimes
feeling
uncomfortable
about
the
conversations.
Sometimes
we
feel
as
though
we've
been
shortchanged.
C
E
C
C
I
think
Eldon's
comments
tonight
is,
for
me
just
remind
me
why
we're
here
so
so.
Thank
you
for
that.
The
last
thing,
I
will
say
is.
We
are
good
for
the
January
24th
meeting,
recognizing
the
special
commission
members
so
folks
want
to
reach
out
to
to
folks
I,
don't
know
how
we
want
to
do
that,
but
it's.
E
D
D
Sometimes
it's
because
we're
uncomfortable
talking
about
things
that
much
of
our
city,
much
of
our
nation,
was
built
with
the
labor
of
people
who
were
enslaved
and
although
nobody
is
currently
enslaved,
their
their
descendants
are
still
feeling
the
effects
of
that
and
everything
that
came
after
it
with
Jim
Crow
legislation
and
lots
of
outright
and
systemic
kinds
of
roadblocks
that
are
put
in
the
way
of
systemically
oppressed
people
and
so
I
think
to
to
say
it
out
loud.
You
know
it's
like
you
know.
Our
city
has
stolen
from
people
and.
D
We
have
a
debt,
and
so
I
know
some
people
will
react
to
that.
But
that
is
the
absolute
truth.
That's
really
undeniable!
So
and
I
think
we
can.
You
know
there.
We
one
source
of
money
is
from
the
city,
but
I
think
there
are
other
sources
of
of
money
and
so
I
do
think.
We
should
think
big
and
not
necessarily
limit
ourselves,
because
we
might
not
have
that
much
money.
Can
you.
E
E
C
We
are
not
leaving
here
putting
people
on
blast
for
saying
something
or
questioning
something,
because
we're
all
coming
from
a
different
place
and
we're
all
coming
from
a
different
knowledge
base
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
I'm
not
saying
that
there
are
two.
You
know:
there's
there's
right
and
Wrongs
we're.
C
C
A
So
it
is,
the
city
is
because
I've
observed,
since
over
the
past
four
years,
engaged
in
things
like
the
economic
Mobility
projects
which
are
designed
to
come
up
with
solutions
to
come
up
with
a
demonstration
project,
okay
to
see
if
it
works.
So,
while
was
proposed
my
its
little
scale
beyond
what
we
could
afford.
A
Okay,
you
could
do
a
proof
of
product
okay
and
get
the
screen
responsive
to
you
know
where's
the
bank
for
my
buck,
you
know:
does
that
work
and
I
think
being
willing
to
identify
resources
right
and
to
get
partners
to
do
those
kind
of
things.
Those
things
soon
which
may
be
reparative,
which
generate
or
tax
dollars
right
and
more
productive
employees
and
all
the
kind
of
things
that
allows
the
ecosystem
to
keep
growing
is
what
we.
What
we
want
to
do,
I
think
discussion
about
opportunity.
A
B
A
G
G
A
A
C
A
A
A
They
should
be
on
our
calendar
and
as
members
of
the
commission
and
the
constituencies
and
constituencies
that
we
represent,
we
should
be
there
and
then
you
know
hopefully,
next
year
you
know
we
want
the
receipts
at
a
table.
We
will
be
have
our
own
table
all
right
and
have
something
to
present
more
than
the
mayor.
Give
us
a
shout
out
today,
you
know
say,
permission
is:
is
foreign.
A
No
Hearts
have
changed,
no
Minds
have
changed.
You
know
why
exactly
the
economy
machine,
but
we're
through
that.
So
that's
something
that
we
should
be
more
aware
of:
I've
also
shared
with
each
of
the
Commissioners
a
copy
of
the
South
Carolina
African
American
history,
calendar,
which
is
produced
by
the
state.
The
Department
of
Education
is
these:
are
your
safe
tax
dollars.
A
A
They
detail
profile
each
month,
significant
person
of
African-American
descent,
who's
from
South
Carolina,
but
it's
actually
the
curriculum
that
will
allow
classroom
teachers
all
right
to
talk
about
the
contributions
of
these
individuals
so
26
years
years
times.
12
means
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
providing
a
lot
of
opportunities
so
share
this.