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City of Charleston Community Development 5/18/2023
B
B
B
C
C
B
A
A
A
They
did.
The
city
does
not
have
a
roller
rink
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
Sarah
Bagwell
said
that
we
need
this
wonderful
community
space
at
Union
Pier.
They
were
not
even
close
to
enough
Waterfront
accesses
for
locals
and
visitors
to
walk
and
enjoy.
There
were
too
many
apartments
in
downtown
Charleston
and
they
needed
entertainment
and
commerce
to
evenly
balance
out
the
growing
population,
and
those
were
all
the
comments
we
received.
We
did
not
have
anyone
sign
up
online.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
around
on
to
item
number
B,
which
is
approval
for
the
minutes.
I
get
a
motion.
Please
make
a
motion
to
approve.
Second,
second
I
was
moving.
Second,
oh,
but
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
was
this
Nate
all
right
Sabbath,
we
don't
have
anything
on
the
old
business.
We
have
one
item
under
new
business
that
have
been
deferred
until
further
notice,
so
it
was
requested
by
Mr
Bernie
music.
So
we're
not
going
to
entertain
that
particular
person
at
all.
B
B
E
We
had
a
very
good
conversation
as
a
part
of
that
meeting
and
some
recommendations
on
at
least
one
thing
that
we
can
do
to
help
increase
the
the
diversity
and
the
the
audience
if
you
would
for
when
we
have
opportunities
on
our
board.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
get
started,
there
are
any
questions
for
many
members
of
the
committee.
Please
just
let
me
know
so.
Hopefully,
everyone
knows
the
planning
department
supports
several
boards.
E
We
support
a
little
over
110
meetings
per
year
as
a
department.
These
boards,
that
we
support,
include
both
the
architectural
Boards
of
Architectural,
Review,
large
and
small.
We
have
two
zoning
appeal:
our
boards
of
zoning
appeals
both
site
design
and
Zoning.
We
have
the
design
review
board
that
addresses
commercial,
mainly
commercial
development.
In
our
our
Suburban
commercial
corridors.
E
We
have
the
minority
business
Enterprise
Advisory
board
that
assists
our
office
of
minority
and
women
owned
businesses
with
programming
and
projects.
There.
We
have
the
Planning
Commission,
which
you
are
all
very
familiar
with,
and
we
also
support
the
West
Ashley.
Revitalization,
commission.
These
are
our
public
boards.
We
also
have
the
technical
Review
Committee
that
we
staff
out
of
the
planning
department,
which
is
a
multi-department,
multi-disciplinary
staff
level
board
that
we
supported
in
the
planning
department
as
well.
E
That
is
a
pretty
significant
piece
of
work
that
that
team
does
the
members
of
these
boards
it's
important
to
note.
These
are
all
volunteer
roles
on
these
boards,
and
these
are
folks
who
are
donating
a
significant
amount
of
time,
energy,
expertise
and
training
that
they've
received
in
their
professional
lives
to
the
city
in
helping
us
shape,
maintain
and
preserve
our
our
community.
Here
in
Charleston,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
you
know
these
boards.
E
They
take
that
responsibility
that
you
all
have
entrusted
with
them
through
the
adoption
of
the
various
ordinances
that
Empower
those
boards,
as
well
as
your
appointments
in
making
very
carefully
considered
decisions,
and
we
depend
on
those
board
members
to
help
maintain
the
you
know
the
appearance
and
the
quality
of
our
community
and
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
anyway,
that's
just
a
plug
for
the
the
job
that
those
boards
and
the
board
members
do.
Particularly
again.
It
just
can't
be
stated
enough.
E
E
Some
of
them
twice
a
month.
They
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time
prepping
for
those
meetings
as
well.
So
I'm
just
important
to
note.
So
the
question
came
up
about
what
is
the
appointment
and
reappointment
process
for
the
boards
that
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
planning
department
rather
supports.
So
this
flowchart
kind
of
briefly
walks
you
through
how
that
process
works
in
generally
the
beginning
of
October,
we
take
a
look
at
all
of
our
boards
and
look
at
anyone
whose
term
is
up
in
the
coming
year.
E
E
Hopefully,
you
all
have
received
that
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
that,
if
you
have
constituents,
who've
been
talking
to
you
about
potentially
serving
or
if
there's
a
particular
particularly
hard
to
recruit
for
position
on
one
of
these
boards.
Many
of
our
board,
while
all
of
our
boards
have
a
pretty
technical
aspect
to
them,
and
so
sometimes
we
have
various
specific
positions
that
the
the
codes
require
for
service
on
those
boards,
for
instance
Planning
Commission,
all,
while
all
of
our
boards
have
a
call
for
an
attorney
or
or
position.
E
We
then
take
those
applications
that
have
been
submitted,
try
to
align
those
with
where
we
have
openings
and
do
a
do,
a
informal
vetting
process.
If
you
would,
to
the
extent
that
we
ever
have
the
situation
where
we
actually
need
to
vet
anybody,
and
then
we
will
submit
the
our
recommendations
with
regard
to
those
appointments
to
the
mayor's
office.
At
that
point,
the
the
mayor
will
take
a
look
at
those.
E
If
he
has
questions
we'll
try
to
answer
those
if
there
are
additional
thoughts
or
considerations,
we
need
to
make
those
generally
come
up
at
that
point,
then,
in
February,
like
this
past
February,
we
will
send
a
memo
to
all
council
members,
letting
them
know
the
names
and
positions
of
any
recommendations
for
appointments
or
reappointments,
and
then
that
will
actually
come
to
council
for
a
vote
again.
Usually
the
second
meeting
in
February
to
have
Council
take
action
on
those
requested,
appointments
and
reappointment.
E
We
do
acknowledge
in
the
planning
department
and
they've,
been
working
on
this
as
a
concept
for
years
long
before
my
tenure
as
the
planning
director,
which
is
to
kind
of
address
in
diversifying
the
membership
of
these
boards.
Unfortunately,
we
do
run
into
the
fact
that
as
much
as
people
think
you
know,
Charleston
is
becoming
this
big,
unwieldy
thing.
E
So
but
the
team
works
very
diligently
and
has
for
years
on
trying
to
get
as
many
people
from
as
many
diverse
backgrounds
as
possible
to
participate
one
of
the
things
we're
working
on
right
now,
that's
kind
of
just
been
a
like
eye-opener
of
wow.
This
should
be
a
relatively
easy
fix
that
should
broaden
the
pool
of
folks
that
are
eligible
to
participate
on.
Our
boards
is
an
amendment
that
we're
working
on
to
expand
the
residency
allowance
to
increase
the
pull
of
who
is
eligible
to
serve
on
the
board.
E
Many
of
those
owners
and
principals
look
very
similar,
there's
not
a
lot
of
diversity,
background
education
or
experience
that
comes
with
that
level
of
position.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
actually
change
the
the
that
language
in
the
code
that
will
allow
you,
if
you
are
an
employee
in
a
firm,
that's
located
in
the
city,
whether
you
live
in
the
city
or
not,
you
would
be
eligible
to
serve
on
one
of
our
boards.
E
E
Hark
is
requested
that
we
do
a
report
out
to
them
and
we're
working
on
collecting
this
information
now
to
just
have
so
that
they
can
better
understand
some
of
the
demographics
of
our
board
makeup.
We
know
anecdotally
that
we
have
a
good
mix
of
men
and
women
who
serve
on
these
boards.
We
have
a
a
pretty
good
mix
of
age
ranges.
You
know
we
have
younger
folks.
We
have
folks
with
a
good
amount
of
experience.
E
If
there
are
any
questions,
my
goal
would
be
that,
following
this
presentation,
we
do
have
some
reappointments
they're
still
hanging
out
there
from
the
council
meeting
in
February,
I
I
would
ask
you
know
permission
to
bring
those
back,
because
we
really
would
like
to
get
those
folks
reappointed
to
those
boards,
so
that
we're
in
compliance
with
our
ordinances
and
and
and
move
forward
through
completing
the
rest
of
this
year
with
those
with
those
folks
as
service.
So.
B
B
F
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
Mr
Summerfield,
so
why
do
we
stop
at?
Can
we
can
we
give
that
memo
and
those
appointment
process?
You
know
that
that
application
process
to
all
commissions
across
the
board
in
the
city-
yes
send
it
to
the
women's
commission.
You
know
I
mean
everywhere.
You
know
all
of
the
other
I
mean
I've.
I've
worked
really
hard
and
really
pushed
I.T
to
update
our
website.
I
think
that
was
a
really
big.
You
know
we
really
needed
that
tool.
F
So
at
all
of
our
citizens,
it's
a
it
was
a
very
difficult
website
to
navigate
and
it
was
not
up
to
date
and
it
has
worked
really
hard
to
now
get
that
up
to
date.
So
we
have
a
new
website
for
the
boards
and
commissions,
which
I
think
is
really
great,
so
that
a
broader
you
know,
a
vast
majority
of
our
city
can
now
look
on
that
and
see
what's
available
when
they're
available
how
to
apply
the
deadlines.
Things
like
that,
so
I
think
just
getting
that
information
out
is
important.
F
You
know
not
necessarily
just
to
specific
commissions,
but
just
to
say
you
know:
we've
updated
this
website.
Everyone
can
now
apply
for
these
very
easily
and
I
also
ask
that
when
you
bring
back
the
appointments
to
city
council,
are
you
able
I
think
a
lot
of
us
requested?
That
is
when
you
bring
the
appointments
back
and
you
give
us
all
of
the
application
all
the
applicants.
I
think
that
was
one
thing
you
know
when
the
appointments
came
and
I
think
that
was
one
thing
that
a
lot
of
us
had
questions
about.
F
C
Thank
you
chair
for
that
and
your
continued
work
with
harc
and
we
appreciate
it
part
of
this-
is
a
partnership
and
us
working
together
and
I
look
forward
to
all
bringing
this
stuff
back
and
to
councilwoman
Parker
I
didn't
see
the
changes
to
the
boards
and
commissions,
but
I'm
actually
clicking
on
it
now
and
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you.
This
is
something
that
former
councilwoman
Del,
Chapo
and
I
had
asked
about
and
I'm
glad
it
actually
got
done,
so
it
looks
I'm
looking
at
it
right
now.
G
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
councilwoman
Parker,
for
bringing
this
forward.
It's
a
very
important
issue.
I
served
on
the
bza
for
the
City
of
Charleston
for
a
little
over
three
years.
It
was
an
extremely
rewarding
fulfilling
experience
and
Robert's
100
right
there
were
nights.
We
got
out
of
there
10
o'clock,
11
o'clock
at
night.
It's
serious,
volunteer,
work,
there's
no
question
about
it,
and
these
boards
are
extremely
important.
I
mean
our
affordable
housing
developments
go
before
these
boards
issues
involving
you
know.
G
You
know
everything
you
can
think
of
go
in
front
of
these
boards
and
it's
very
important
to
have
good
people
that
are
that
are
in
it
for
the
right
reasons,
and
that
are
knowledgeable
about
the
very
technical
issues
that
they're
being
asked
to
adjudicate.
You
know
your
job
on
these
boards
is
not
to
just
kind
of
approve
the
things
you
like
and
deny
the
things
you
don't
like.
G
You're
you're,
charged
with
reviewing
and
applying
city
ordinances
in
a
very
detailed
and
Technical
Manner,
and
having
good
people
in
these
boards
not
only
produces
the
right
outcomes
on
the
ground.
It
prevents
the
city
from
getting
dragged
into
litigation.
There
are
some
jurisdictions
around
the
state,
I'm
not
going
to
name
any
whose
boards
are
completely
out
of
control
enter
the
and,
as
a
result,
the
cities
get
sued
and
it
gets
very
difficult.
G
So
it's
very
important
to
have
good
people
in
these
on
these
boards
for
the
right
reasons.
In
terms
of
the
diversity
perspective,
you
know
Charleston
County,
for
example,
they
have
designees
for
the
board.
Now
it's
a
little
bit
different
they've
only
got
nine
council
members,
we've
got
12,
but
each
council
member
has
their
appointment
to
the
bza,
and
so
what
that
does?
Is
it
sort
of
automatically
accomplishes
at
least
geographical
diversity
and
oftentimes
I?
Think
it'll
accomplish.
G
So
it's
very
important
conversation
to
be
having
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
taking
a
closer
look
at
this
and
because
the
better
these
boards
are
the
better
the
city
will
be.
It's
it's
a
very,
very
important
function
and
let's
keep
talking
about
it
and
find
ways
we
can
improve
it.
Thanks
Mr
Mayor.
H
So
Robert,
you
might
have
covered
this
a
little
bit.
You
know
and
I
know.
At
the
last
meeting
we
added
a
alternate
because
you
were
having
some
quorum
issues
and
in
your
boards
and
commissions,
particularly
I
mean
with
they
they're
part
of
our
business.
They
need
to
convene
and
conduct
business
so
vital
that
they
have
enough
folks
to
to
make
a
quorum
and
and
to
conduct
business,
so
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud.
Would
it
make
sense
to
to
add
another
alternate
or
two
to
you
know
almost
across
the
board?
H
No
pun
intended
to
to
these
boards
and
commissions
to
to
have
a
little
more
depth,
so
to
speak
for
for
making
sure
you
got
a
quorum
number
one.
Maybe
it
almost
serves
as
a
training
ground
for
future
permanent
board
members.
If,
if
you
had
a
few
more
alternates
on
on
each
one-
and
maybe
it
would
allow
us
some
opportunity
to
add
a
little
more
diversity,
you
know
so
to
speak
in
in
the
wings
or
in
waiting
yeah.
E
You
know
a
good
group
of
folks
to
do
that,
because
sometimes
you
get
Quorum
and
that's
great,
but
that's
still
not
the
full
committee.
So
to
the
extent
you
can
have
a
full
committee
when
someone
needs
to
be
absent
or
or
recuse,
because
again
it
is
a
small
community.
So
we
often
will
have
architects
who
have
items
that
they're
actually
working
on
that
will
come
before
the
board.
E
One
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is:
are
there
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
city
to
help
reduce
barriers
to
people
participating
on
on
our
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
working
on
some
ideas
that
we
may
bring
to
you
all
at
budget
time,
because,
unfortunately,
most
of
those
ideas
will
have
a
budgetary
impact.
But
there
are
some
really
great
best
practices
out
there
in
the
in
the
country
where
people
are
in
communities
are
doing
things
that
can
help
reduce
barriers.
E
So
that
folks,
who
may
have
an
interest
but
may
have
things
going
on
that
prevent
them
from
being
able
to
participate.
Maybe
we
can
help
reduce
some
of
those
barriers,
so
we
can
also
increase
just
the
number
of
people
who
can
participate
in
these
types
of
things.
So
look
forward
to
bringing
some
of
those
ideas
to
you
all.
As
well,
particularly
as
we
get
moving
into
budget,
thank.
B
B
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Councilman
Mitchell,
and
thank
you
for
all
those
folks
on
the
committee.
I
I
just
want
to
thank
Gianna,
Shaw
Johnson
and
her
team
for
working
with
us
on
this
initiative
around
fair
housing.
Just
to
give
everyone
a
little
history
and
background
of
of
where
we
are
is
that
back
in
January
of
2023
HUD
passed
a
new
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
rule.
I
The
rule
was
in
response
to
the
federal
government
in
essence,
admitting
that
they
had
implemented
policies
over
the
decade
that
specifically
excluded
people
of
color
from
having
access
to
fair
and
equal
housing.
Some
of
those
policies
that
they
highlighted
was
the
GI
Bill.
They
talked
about
the
fact
that
the
FHA
had
only
given
had
excuse
me
had
given
83
percent
of
their
loans
to
whites
and
and
less
than
12
percent
to
people
of
color.
I
So
in
essence,
what
HUD
has
asked
municipalities
to
do
is
to
solicit
input
from
elected
officials,
Community
stakeholders
experts
around
what
we
can
do
to
better
address
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
in
the
City
of
Charleston
from
the
onset.
What
we
realized
is
that
a
lot
of
people-
that's
inclusive
of
everyday
residents,
that's
inclusive
of
Administrators
elected
officials
and
across
the
board.
We
have
very
little
knowledge
of
really
what
the
Fair
Housing
Act
requires.
I
Along
with
that,
we
are
not
really
understanding
what
is
required
of
us
as
it
relates
to
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing,
and
so
what
Gianna's
team
and
the
Urban
League
team
has
done-
is
that
we
thought
that
we'd
stop
at
Ground,
Zero
and
and
create
information
that
will
give
us
historical
context
of
where
we
are
right
now.
I
I
think
that
some
of
the
information
that
we
need
to
apply
some
of
the
information
to
already
exist.
I
I
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
in
phase
one
is
creating
information
and
soliciting
input.
We
did
phase
one
a
video
presentation
a
couple
weeks
ago,
well,
attended
and,
and
what
we're
doing
as
I
said
earlier
is
we're
soliciting
that
input
in
terms
of
getting
feedback
in
terms
of
how
it
is
that
we
can
better
develop
those
strategies
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
we've
understand
is
what
we
can
do
to
help
this
process.
I
We
feel
that
it's
extremely
important
that
we
help
institutions
understand
the
role
that
they
can
play
and
how
we
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
in
our
community
and
when
I
talk
about
institutions,
I
think
that
there's
a
role
that
landlords
and
Realtors
can
play,
there's
a
role
that
Banks
and
financial
institutions
can
place.
There's
a
role
that
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
can
play.
There's
a
role
that
funders
can
play,
there's
a
role
that
community-based
organizations
can
play,
and
you
know
and
I
think
it's
incredibly
important
that
we
help
those
institutions
Define.
I
I
In
the
workshop
that
we
did
two
weeks
ago,
it
was
expressed
that
those
people
who
were
not
disproportionately
affected
communities
of
color
that
they
choose
to
be
in
the
situations
that
they're
they
were
in
and
and
and
my
pushback
on
that
is
this
people
don't
choose
to
be
poor
people,
don't
cheat
choose
to
be
unhealthy.
People
don't
choose
to
be
less
educated.
I
People
don't
choose
to
be
victims
of
racism,
and
so
let
me
just
summarize
by
saying
we
have
a
follow-up
meeting
from
those
people
who
attended
the
first
workshop
two
weeks
ago.
I
think
the
the
response
has
been
positive
and
extremely
valuable.
I
think
folk
are
excited
that
they,
we
have
really
developed
a
process
for
them
to
give
their
their
input,
and
we
are
hopefully
will
be
able
to
go
into
phase
two.
I
Take
that
information
that
that
we
got
and
just
start
synthesizing
it
in
terms
of
developing
very
specific
strategies
in
terms
of
how
it
is
that
we
plan
to
do
a
better
job
and
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing,
not
only
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
but
also
as
it
relates
to
working
with
those
communities
in
the
region,
so
that
they
have
been
a
better
understanding
and
have
some
tools
in
the
toolbox
to
help
them
address.
Affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
as
well
from
a
regional
perspective,
can
can
I
answer
a
question
or
two.
I
G
I
Next
meeting
Gianna,
which
which
may
be
timely
and
the
fact
that
we
have
a
follow-up
meeting
to
the
workshop,
that
we
did
two
weeks
ago
next
week
and
so
we'll
have
more
information
to
share
after
next
week.
So
I
I
still
think.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
not
only
share
the
video
but
also
share
some
more
information
that
we
have
gotten
from
the
participants
representing
a
lot
of
different
institutions
across
our
community.
As
it
relates
to
this
work
that
we're
doing.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
can
here
to
here
to
some
of
the
things
that
author
is
saying,
because
even
when
the
tried
in
Urban
League
before
they
got
cranked
up
well,
as
he
have
done,
I
was
howling.
The
fair
housing
for
the
City
of
Charleston,
North,
Charleston,
Berkeley,
Dorchester,
County
and
I
have
the
whole
region
under
Fair
Housing,
along
with
councilman
Gregory.
Who
was
top
man
too
much
to
me.
You
know
he
was
higher
up
there.
B
I
was
a
little
man
on
the
totem
pole,
but
I
was
the
housing
cost
to
be
on
the
ground
and
I
did
all
the
fair
housing
during
that
time
and
then,
if
you
had
once
you
get
adjudication,
I
was
sending
it
to
the
up
into
Colombia
at
that
time
and
then
the
Urban
League
came
on
board
and
they
got
start
spreading
out.
Then
I
limited
myself
by
just
referring
everything
to
the
Urban
League,
because
I
was
handling
a
lot
so
far
doing
with
HUD
for
33
years.
You
see
so
I
did
it
all.
B
We
had
even
the
banks.
We
had
problem
with
the
banks
with
redlining
people
of
color
at
the
bank
and
I
was
placed
on
one
of
the
bank's
boards
to
try
to
assist
them
in
trying
to
kind
of
getting
people
of
color
to
be
able
to
get
loans
in
those
particular
Banks
and
I
was
on
the
board
that
had
a
Community
Development
committee
board.
That
was
a
part
of
during
that
time,
and
so
some
of
those
things
as
of
today
it
still
exist
from
way
back.
B
B
I
could
go
to,
because
that
was
a
one-man
ship
during
that
time,
and
we
can
do
a
little
more
than
I
can
do
it,
but
it
plays
a
big
part
in
coming
together,
bringing
people
together
working
together
that
be
all
on
this
to
get
We
All
in
This
Together.
Actually,
you
know
so
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I'm,
seeing
that
the
Urban
League
is
doing
and
they're
doing
a
fabulous
job
so
far
as
I'm
concerned,
because
McGregor
had
your
hands
up.
J
I
I
What
it
is
and
if
they
they
do,
have
a
case
of
of
potential
discrimination
and
they
need
to
have
feedback
and
follow-up
on
and
and
I
think
that
that
is
a
better
role
that
can
be
handled
more
locally
than
it
is
from
a
state
position
or
where
or
versus
sending
it
directly
to
HUD.
If
that
makes
sense,
it.
J
J
You
meaning
the
Urban
League
is
one
of
the
rare
organizations
that
get
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollar
Outreach
Grant
and,
as
you
know,
that
Grant
helps
to
feed
into
the
investigative
portion
Etc
et
cetera,
getting
in
claims
of
discrimination,
Etc
et
cetera,
of
which
you
have
to
forward
to
Colombia
and
sort
of
lose
track
of.
What's
what's
going
on
so
I
really
think
at
some
point.
Uh-Har
again
needs
to
take
up
the
issue
of
whether
or
not
we
are
going
to
try
to
become
substantially
equivalent.
J
Folks,
with
folks
wouldn't
even
make
that
kind
of
of
connection
and
I
think
that
the
Outreach
and
the
marketing
that
the
Urban
League
has
been
doing
over
the
years
has
been
extremely
beneficial
and
helpful,
but
I
think
as
a
city.
We
need
it
at
this
point.
You
know
given
as
long
as
you
guys
have
been
in
existence,
given
the
kind
of
experience
and
exposure
that
you
have
that
we
now
need
to
give
you
the
necessary
tools
to
take
it
to
the
next
step.
I
If
I
may
add
quickly,
councilman
Gregory
to
your
point,
you
know
that
is
the
whole
purpose
of
doing
the
presentations
that
we're
doing.
You
know
in
the
historical
context,
I
think
it's
extremely
important
that
we
know
or
that
understand
the
impact
that
I-526
has
had
in
terms
of
you
know
creating
segregation
across
our
community,
not
only
terms
of
I-26
but
understanding
Across.
The
Nation,
every
Interstate
in
America
has
basically
cut
through
communities
of
color
basically
have
contributed
and
that's
a
Department
of
Transportation
policy.
You
know.
I
D
J
J
That
could
that
could
be
accrued,
but
even
since
then,
okay
through
HARP,
we
went
back
to
Susan
and
a
number
of
people
in
cooperation
Council
more
recently
to
even
update
the
plan.
That's
on
the
books
now
and
I
think
that
we,
we
were
just
simply
waiting
for
I
guess
a
ruling
as
under
the
administrative
act
and
I
may
be
quoting
that
incorrectly
to
determine
as
to
whether
or
not
we
could
do
what
we
would
like
to
do
if
we
were
substantially
equivalent.
J
J
D
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
Gianna
Shaw
Johnson
for
you
and
your
team
and
your
support
and
sorry
for
the
the
the
signal
on
the
video,
but
I
I
really
would
like
the
opportunity
to
show
it
to
the
committee.
Hopefully
you
know
in
the
very
near
future,
I
I
see
Rebecca
on
the
call
on
Rebecca
was
you
know
one
of
the
attendees
in
the
workshop
and
I?