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From YouTube: City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 5/9/2022
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City of Charleston Committee on Public Safety 5/9/2022
A
Hey
everybody
good
afternoon,
everybody.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
on
this
beautiful
monday
afternoon.
I'm
a
call
to
order
the
public
safety
committee
meeting
of
may
9
2022,
it's
two
or
four
pm
and
councilman
seeking.
Since
you
were
victorious
over
the
weekend
with
your
road
race,
you
have
the
honor
of
leading
us
into
a
an
invocation
or
a
moment
of
silence.
So.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
a
short
prayer.
If
I
might
let
us
pray
heavenly
father
as
we
join
together
under
the
guise
of
public
safety,
let's
remember
those
who
are
less
fortunate,
who
need
our
help
and
protection
and
endeavor
to
do
everything
we
can
every
day
to
make
the
lives
of
those
around
us
that
much
better
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen,
amen,.
A
B
B
That's
part
of
well
there's
a
couple
of
great
parts.
I'll
get
on
the
meeting.
The
alligator
head
is
really
good.
If
you
finish
in
the
top
three,
you
then
get
to
participate
in
the
parade
the
hellhole
swamp,
parade,
which
is
held
right
after
which
was
a
complete
blast.
So
it
was
a
fun
day
up
in
jamestown,
and
the
last
part
of
the
puzzle
was
that
the
two
guys
who
beat
me
their
ages
collectively
is
less
than
half
my
full
age.
A
B
A
A
Thank
you,
council
members
seeking
so
we'll
next
would
obtain
a
motion
to
approve
the
april
11
20,
please
for.
A
Those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
the
opposed
eyes.
Have
it
all
right.
Chief
courier
you've
got
the
first
two
items.
Item
number
three:
is
a
fire
department,
approval
of
regional
partners,
automatic
aid
agreement
to
guide
operations
of
the
following
fire
departments,
charleston
north
charleston,
james
islands
and
andrews
johns
island
and
mount
pleasant.
D
It's
the
aid
agreement
that
all
the
area
fire
departments
sign
on
to,
so
that
when
there's
an
emergency
regardless
of
jurisdiction,
the
closest
units
for
the
emergency
are
dispatched
automatically
without
having
to
ask
anybody.
The
big
change
to
this
agreement
is
that
when
the
original
agreement
was
put
in
place
in
2012,
mount
pleasant
was
not
a
part
of
the
auto
aid
group.
But
with
this
new
agreement,
mount
pleasant
is
going
to
sign
on
and
be
a
part
of
the
group.
So
all
the
area,
fire
departments
will
be
partners.
A
A
A
Any
further
discussion,
any
questions
for
the
chief,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
aye,
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
The
next
item
with
chief
courier
is
a
fire
department
approval
to
authorize
the
department
to
enter
in
the
mou
with
berkeley
county
emergency
management
to
install
and
monitor
a
weather
station
at
station
at
our
station
number
eighteen.
D
It
is
station,
18,
is
on
daniel
island
and
we
have
weather
stations
across
the
city
of
charleston.
It
helps
us
with,
particularly
in
storm
response.
We
measure
the
wind
speed.
We
figure
out
when
it's
safe
to
go
across
bridges
when
it's
not
safe.
When
we
can
respond
when
we
can't
respond
so
berkeley
county
wanted
to
add
one
in
station
18.
E
F
Yes,
so
the
council
approved
the
acceptance
of
this
grant
back
at
the
end
of
january.
It's
for
a
mental
health
clinician,
a
peer
support
specialist
in
crisis
intervention
training.
We
do
have
a
mental
health
clinician
in
the
police
department.
Currently
that
focuses
on
domestic
violence
and
victims
of
crime.
F
This
mental
health
clinician
would
be
more
of
a
person
that's
out
in
the
field
working
on
crisis
intervention
to
try
and
prevent
people
that
are
having
mental
health
crisis
from
becoming
engaged
in
the
criminal
justice
system,
basically
offering
them
services
in
the
field
to
get
them
to
the
right
place
where,
where
the
police
aren't
necessary
in
in
the
intervention,
so
this
would
be
a
more
of
a
person
in
the
field,
and
this
was
already
approved
and
and
the
finances
and
all
that.
E
Councilmember
schiele
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
steve.
I'm
certainly
you
know
in
favor
of
this
and
jennifer
roberts
does
a
great
job
and
works
with
our
city
so
well
and
serves
on
our
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee
as
well.
E
But
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
when
I
was
reading
through
it
said
this
position
will
provide
services
up
to
40
hours
a
week,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
that
should
be
up
to,
or
should
that
be
services
of
40
hours
a
week
and
if,
if
it
doesn't,
does
that
allow
that
person
flexibility
where
they're
not
working
40
hours
a
week?
I
guess.
F
Yeah,
I
think
the
intent
is,
is
40
hours
a
week
and
I'm
not
sure
I
didn't
catch
that
the
first
time
around
on
this
contract.
So
we
can
certainly
amend
that.
I
can
get
with
them
and
amend
that
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on
what
what
the
hours
are.
E
E
A
All
right
any
other
questions
or
any
concerns
do
we
need
to
make
it
a
motion
to
amend
the
document,
or
can
we
just
accept
it,
as
is
legal
counsel,.
A
Okay,
there's
a
motion
to
adopt,
as
is,
and
if
we
need
to
make
some
tweaks
steve
can
get
back
with
us.
F
Right
so
we
wanted
to
submit
that
and
the
intent
if
we
are
awarded
that
would
be
to
use
it
for
those
15
computers
for
our
vehicles.
F
Not
not
in
the
first
year,
if
we
decide
to
you,
know,
continue
with
those
services,
there
would
be
a
cost
after
that,
first
year,
okay,.
A
Is
there
a
motion
mayor,
you
have
a
question.
C
C
So
let
me
ask
one
more
question:
if
you
don't
mind,
if
we
get
these
15,
I
know
we've
been
converting
a
lot
of
our
police
cars
over
this
new
system.
C
E
Hey
mayor
and
councilmember
shade,
I
spoke
to
the
lieutenant
that's
over
this
program
in
reference
to
this
and
we're
probably
if
we
continue
the
replacement
cycle
like
we
have
been
with
wes
and
his
team,
looking
at
the
next
two
two
years
being
completely
at
that
point,.
A
Good
seeing
you
chief
thanks,
okay,
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
item
number
six
for
approval,
just
a
second
okay,
okay,
any
further
discussion
or
questions
for
steve
or
cassandra
or
chief
reynolds
or
anybody
else.
Okay,
cnn.
All
those
in
favor
say
that
by
saying
aye
aye
and
in
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
all
right.
Now,
chief
courier,
we
finally
get
to
you
and
shannon
on
an
update
of
the
fire
department.
So
a.
D
Good,
okay!
Well,
let's
go
with
it,
then.
So
let
me
back
up
to
the
first
slide.
This
is
just
the
the
update
on
the
fire
department
and
what
I
have
to
say
is
a
lot
of
things
are
going
really
well
in
the
fire
department
and
the
challenges
that
will
outline
are
somewhat
complex
and
there's
no
quick
fixes,
but
I
also
think
that
you
have
an
awareness
of
everything
I'm
about
to
say
so.
D
The
the
current
issues
that
we
face
morale
is
a
big
one,
but
I
also
believe
that
morale
is
is
driven
by
a
couple
of
things:
covid
being
one
of
them
pay
and
retention
being
another
our
vacancy
rate
right
now
is
we
have
25
people
in
a
fire
academy,
but
we
have
50
vacancies
in
the
operations
division,
so
we
still
have
25
vacancies.
We
have
to
fill.
We
have
our
call
volume
going
up.
We
have
the
overtime
issues
that
were
generated
primarily
due
to
covit
and
the
reduction
in
those
line.
D
D
D
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
think
the
number
one
issue
that
we
are
facing
in
the
department
right
now
is
a
morale
issue
and
it
comes
down
to
covet
fatigue.
More
than
anything-
and
I
know
I'm
not
saying
anything
that
doesn't
impact
the
rest
of
the
city
workforce
also,
but
we're
over
two
years
into
coven,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
we're
starting
to
return
to
normal,
you
can
start
to
feel
the
tension
relax
a
little
bit
in
the
fire
department,
but
the
covid
manda
or
the
vaccine
mandate.
D
D
Now
kovid
drove
us
to
to
be
in
silos,
and
basically
the
best
way
for
us
to
connect
with
our
firefighters
is
to
make
sure
that
they
have
face
time
with
leadership.
Obviously
that
decreased
during
the
pandemic,
so
we're
turning
that
around
now
and
with
morale.
Obviously,
the
communication
from
leadership.
We
really
strive
to
be
open,
honest
and
transparent.
D
If
I
move
over
to
the
operations
vacancy
rate
in
2018,
we
had
a
21
vacancy
rate.
To
put
that
into
perspective.
When
I
was
hired
on
july
30th
2018,
we
had
74
vacancies
in
the
operations
division,
so
this
vacancy
rate
reflects
21
at
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
the
the
vacancy
rate
in
2020
had
dropped
to
9.3,
but
you
start
to
see
it
trending
back
up
we're
at
13.
Now.
D
The
obvious
question
is
what
is
a
normal
vacancy
rate,
and
this
isn't
scientific,
but
my
prior
experience
has
told
me
that
in
a
fire
department
the
size
of
the
charleston
fire
department,
we
should
expect
about
a
five
percent
vacancy
rate
year
after
year.
So
we
should
be
losing
20
or
21
people
per
year.
D
D
So
the
things
that
are
trending
positively,
one
of
the
things
the
fire
department
uses
as
a
benchmark
on
the
delivery
of
service
is
the
insurance
services
office
rating.
It's
a
rating
from
one
to
ten,
with
one
being
the
best
10
being
the
worst
and
charleston
has
retained
its
class
1
rating.
That's
important,
because
ratings
at
about
5
to
down
to
1
positively
impact
business
insurance
rates
in
the
city
of
charleston.
D
So
the
three
main
criteria
that
are
evaluated
are
the
dispatching
system,
the
water
distribution
system
and
fire
protection.
Obviously,
two
of
the
three
of
those
we
don't
have
any
control
over,
but
we
enjoy
a
really
good
relationship
with
all
the
other
partners.
Again,
we've
retained
the
class
one
if
you
drop
down
to
the
next
bullet
point.
A
A
A
D
D
So
there
are
very
few
fire
departments
in
the
country
that
enjoy
accreditation
through
the
center
for
public
safety
excellence,
as
well
as
an
iso
class.
One
charleston
fire
department
is
one
that
really
has
gone
above
and
beyond
and
in
and
has
both
of
those
designations.
D
So
that's
a
very
positive
trend.
The
long-range
planning
for
the
fire
department
is
positive.
We're
currently
engaging
in
a
project
to
make
sure
that
we
can
forecast
our
needs
and
our
issues
for
10
to
15
years
and
it's
a
living
document.
We
share
components
of
it
say
with
bfrc
to
make
sure
that
they
have
an
awareness
well
before
we
need
different
apparatus
or
the
parks
department.
So
they
know
exactly
what
station
projects
we
need
to
move
forward
in
what
year.
D
D
After
chief
reynolds
we've
got,
we've
got
chief
thompson,
we've
got,
you
know,
chief
walker,
just
an
entire
team,
and
I
think,
when
leadership
sets
the
tone
that
collaboration
and
cordial
attitude
isn't
expected.
Good
things
happen.
The
best
example
I
can
give
for
that
is
the
palms
fire
that
we
had
a
couple
of
months
ago.
The
success
of
that
incident
can't
be
taken
for
granted.
There
were
no
injuries
and
there
were
no
deaths
to
any
civilians,
given
the
magnitude
of
that
fire.
D
That
is
incredibly
incredibly
good
news.
Quite
simply,
that
would
not
have
been
possible
if
the
charleston
police
department
and
the
charleston
fire
department
didn't
have
such
a
good
working
relationship.
So
those
are
our
really
good
things
that
are
happening
for
us,
so
the
question
becomes
what
still
needs
to
happen.
D
D
D
I
think
that
starts
to
paint
the
picture
for
where
we
are
today
with
our
firefighters.
Obviously,
it's
an
understatement
to
say
that
our
firefighters
have
been
vocal
about
pay
and
retention
issues.
I
do
think
that
the
proper
issue
to
be
talking
about
is
the
cost
of
living
in
the
charleston
area.
I
think
that's
really.
What's
driving
this
conversation
and
obviously
there's
pandemic.
D
The
net
pay
that
that
firefighter
receives
in
the
course
of
a
month
is
right.
At
two
thousand
dollars
might
be.
Twenty
one
hundred
dollars
might
be
twenty
two
hundred
dollars,
but
it's
rate
at
two
thousand
dollars
and
given
the
cost
of
living
in
the
charleston
area.
Now
that,
basically,
is,
is
rent,
that's
basically
rent
for
one
of
charleston's
firefighters
that
doesn't
take
into
account
any
food
that
doesn't
take
into
account
car
insurance
car
payments.
D
Nothing
nothing
like
that
and
while
I
understand
that
we
can't
necessarily
control
that
the
housing
market,
I
am
incredibly
sympathetic
to
the
fact
that
our
firefighters
want
to
live
in
the
community.
They
want
to
do
a
good
job
but
they're
finding
it
increasingly
difficult
to
make
that
happen.
So
that
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
morale
issues
that
we
have
going
through
the
fire
department
right
now
going
on
to
leadership
in
the
department
we
have
25
chief
officers
and
67
percent
of
them
have
been
promoted
in
the
last
three
and
a
half
years.
D
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
surprising
when
I
came
through
the
door,
but
I
also
knew
that,
as
we
promoted
these
people
into
leadership
positions,
we
were
going
to
have
a
leadership
vacuum.
We
were
going
to
have
a
training
issue,
so
I
will
say
that
most
of
the
problems
or
most
of
the
issues
that
we
have
in
the
fire
department
right
now,
it's
not.
How
does
the
fire
get
extinguished
and
it's
not?
How
well
do
we
do
cpr
and
it's
not
what's
the
status
of
the
marine
team?
It's.
D
How
do
we
relate
to
each
other
and
how
do
we
talk
to
each
other
and
how
do
we
engage
in
difficult
conversations
and
get
to
resolutions
that
either
we
can
all
agree
on
or
even
if
we
don't
agree
on
them,
how
can
they
be
cordial
during
the
the
conversation
so
that
that's
a
huge
issue
that
we're
working
on
right
now?
D
D
With
the
thought
process
that
the
the
more
of
a
local
flavor
we
can
add
to
the
fire
department,
the
better
chance
we
have
of
retaining
these
firefighters.
So
I
established
the
position.
I
did
not
establish
a
budget
with
the
position.
We've
been
carving
the
budget
out
of
different
divisions
in
the
fire
department.
We
do
have
a
budget
request
of
sorts
that
I've
talked
to
rick
giroux
about
it's
about
sixty
64
000
that
it's
my
hope
that
we'll
be
able
to
fund
through
harpa
funding
later
in
the
year.
D
The
fire
department's
training
facility,
its
logistics
facility
and
its
shop
facility
are
all
on
milford
street.
So
we
all
know
that
eventually
those
things
will
go
away
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
we're
working
with
the
parks
department
to
make
sure
that
what
we
need
in
the
new
municipal
operations
complex
will
be
enough
to
take
the
fire
department
several
years
into
the
future,
with
our
training.
D
As
far
as
immediate
station
needs,
we've
got
station
23
on
john's
island.
We've
already
got
the
land
for
that.
We
have
the
architect
chosen
and
there's
an
upcoming
budget
request
for
next
year
for
15
additional
firefighters
to
staff,
a
ladder
company
that
would
go
into
that
firehouse
and
then
the
following
year
would
be
a
request
for
the
the
other
15
firefighters
that
will
need
to
put
an
engine
company
in
service.
We
have
applied
for
a
grant,
a
federal
grant
that
would
provide
those
firefighters
at
no
cost,
but
we
haven't
been
awarded
that
grant
yet.
D
The
other
big
big
area
of
concern
as
it
relates
to
fire
protection,
is
the
canehoy
area
and
it's
quite
frankly,
exploding
in
growth.
So,
after
long
long
delays
we're
finally
in
a
position
to
rebuild
fire
station
number
20,
which
will
be
which
will
take
the
facility,
that
is
in
the
worst
condition
in
the
charleston
fire
department
and
actually
give
them
a
state
of
the
art
facility
for
for
years
to
come
further
into
kane
hoy.
We
have
plans
for
station
22.
D
Bfrc
is
already
aware
that
we'll
need
30
firefighters
for
that
we
have
station
24,
which
we're
working
on
a
land
donation
for
several
years
down
the
road
we'll
just
be
able
to
have
the
land
set
aside,
so
that
when
we
need
that
firehouse
in
place,
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
So
we
are
putting
plans
in
place
to
make
sure
that
the
issues
in
cainhoy
are
addressed
in
a
proactive
manner.
D
It's
been
further
home
with
the
direction
of
councilmember
shade,
but
what
I
would
say
is
that,
as
we
stand
here
in
2022
in
comparison
to
2018,
so
many
of
our
facilities
have
improved
in
the
span
of
three
and
a
half
years
station,
six
on
canon
street
has
received
a
complete
renovation.
It's
beautiful
station,
eight
on
hugey
street
will
undergo
a
renovation
I
could
go
through.
Station
13
on
james
island
has
received
a
complete
renovation
station.
Seven
on
james
island
will
receive
a
complete
renovation
in
west
ashley.
D
Obviously,
station
11
after
many
delays,
but
station
11
is
in
a
new
facility.
That
is
absolutely
beautiful.
Station
12
in
west
ashley
is
undergoing
a
small
renovation.
That's
on
old
town
road
station
14
in
carolina
bay
has
had
significant
roof
work
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
those
firefighters.
D
Station
16
has
undergone
a
small
renovation
on
daniel
island
station
18.
We
have
renovation
plan,
so
the
face
of
the
charleston
fire
department
facilities
wise
over
the
last
three
and
a
half
years
really
has
changed
dramatically.
Now
I've
been
working
with
councilmember
shade
to
still
outline
some
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
done.
We
still
have
work
to
be
done
in
different
fire
houses
across
the
city,
but
but
things
are
so
much
better.
D
As
I
close
out,
I
will
say
that
there
are
plenty
of
good
things
occurring
in
the
charleston
fire
department.
All
of
our
upper
level
ranks
in
the
fire
department
are
either
filled
or
they
will
be
filled
in
the
next
two
to
three
weeks.
Right
now
we
have
one
vacancy
at
the
assistant
chief
level
and
aside
from
that,
every
rank
from
the
captain
level
through
fire
chief
has
been
filled,
and
that
was
not
the
case.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
I
already
talked
about
our
facilities
in
the
positive
trend.
D
One
thing
you'll
note
is
that
in
this
entire
presentation,
or
in
this
entire
discussion,
I
haven't
really
touched
on
our
emergency
responses,
and
that's
because
if
there's
one
thing
you
do
not
have
to
worry
about
it's
the
quality
of
our
response
and
the
professionalism
of
our
firefighters,
our
response
times
are
where
they
need
to
be.
When
we
get
to
emergencies.
D
The
time
it
takes
to
bring
a
fire
under
control
is
very
good.
The
time
it
takes
to
initiate
cpr
is
is
very
good.
So
those
are
all
things
that
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
we're
developing
partnerships.
I
already
talked
about
the
partnership
with
charleston
police
department,
our
area,
fire
departments.
We
have
very
strong
relationships
with.
We
are
operating
in
complex
environments,
very
well,
hazardous
materials.
Aside
from
the
team
retention
issues
that
I
talked
about,
our
operations
at
hazardous
materials
building
collapse,
maritime
is
all
very
good.
D
I
would
say
in
closing
that
the
pay
and
retention
issue
is
our
number
one
issue
to
tackle,
and
I
know
hr
is
working
on
that.
I
would
say
that
in
the
three
and
a
half
years
that
I've
been
in
the
charleston
fire
department,
we've
lost,
or
we've
trained
rather
105,
new
firefighters,
so
the
the
fire
department
is
rated
at
400
personnel.
D
But
experience
really
does
matter
in
this
profession,
so
the
more
we
can
retain
our
personnel,
the
more
we
can
quit
losing
them
from
zero
to
four
years.
The
better
off
this
fire
department
is
going
to
be
for
years
to
come.
I
just
need
to
be
able
to
retain
them,
so
I
can
advance
their
skill
set
and
that
is
the
fire
department.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Chief,
thank
you
for
for
that,
and
I
appreciate
the
thoroughness
of
it
and
I
will
say
that
the
state
of
our
fire
department
and
being
on
good
footing
is
falls
on
your
shoulders.
Thank
you
for
your
your
leadership.
A
For
the
past
several
years
you
have,
you
have
been
a
stabilizer
and
you
you
have,
and
I
think
it's
been
a
wonderful
thing.
I
know
you
inherited
a
department
that
had
a
little
morale
when
you
got
here
and
you
inherited
a
department
that
had
several
facility
issues
and
pay
issues
as
well.
So
what
you've
been
tackling
is
not
new
issues
to
be
tackling,
but
it
seems
like
an
ongoing,
but
you
are,
you
are
attacking
them
and
we're
making
good
progress.
A
With
that,
I
have
a
few
questions
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
members
of
my
committee.
I
just
want
to
clarify,
because
I
was
trying
to
take
up
notes.
I
think
you
said
earlier.
We
are
at
and
we'll
make
sure
we
got
these
numbers
right.
We.
C
D
D
A
A
I
know
the
pay
issue
is
a
big
issue
that
we've
been
wrestling
with,
but
we'll
struggle
back
around
with
that,
but
station
12,
which
is
in
my
district
and
I
pass
by
it
every
day.
It
seems
like
there's
very
little
going
on
there.
So
what
is
the
status
with
with
that
station?.
D
A
And
one
more
question
before
I
I'll:
let
you
lose,
we
you
and
I
have
talked
about
the
utility
of
a
board
of
fire
masters,
any
any
research
into
that
and
usefulness
of
having
that
reinstatement.
D
D
His
comment
to
me
was
that
his
experience
with
the
board
of
fire
masters
is
that
it
became
a
very
political
position.
They
were
appointed
politically
and
the
the
role
of
the
fire
masters
evolved
to
the
point
where
they
were.
They
were
trying
to
dictate
operations
on
the
fire
ground
and
they
they
were
having
considerable
input
concerning
who
the
fire
chief
should
be
or
what
promotions
should
take
place.
So
I
think
in
the
the
iteration
of
the
the
board
of
fire
masters
that
went
away
several
years
ago.
D
A
Very
good,
okay,
I
did
not
want
to
monopolize
you,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
got
those
points
taken
care
of.
So
members
of
the
committee
questions
comments
for
the
chief.
B
D
E
Well,
thank
you
chief
appreciate
everything,
appreciate
all
of
your
leadership.
I'm
not
sure
I
was
going
to
ask
you.
Did
you
mention
station
16
in
there?
I
may
have
missed
it,
but
that's
actually
all
plantation
road
too.
D
I
meant
to
mention
it
if
I
didn't,
I
apologize
so
that
one
just
completed
a
small
renovation.
The
the
real
long
term
plan
for
that
facility
is
that
it
it's
going
to
have
to
be
replaced
and
the
facility
itself
is
deteriorating.
D
But
the
lot
is
not
big
enough
to
allow
for
the
firehouse
to
be
torn
down
and
then
a
replacement
firehouse
built.
So
we
are
actively
pursuing
trying
to
get
land
for
a
replacement
firehouse,
and
I
don't
have
an
update
on
the
land
search,
but
I
did
hear
the
other
day
we
had
a
couple
of
promising
leads.
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
chief
courier.
I
really
appreciate
your
leadership
and,
and
I'm
I
certainly
hear
about
the
challenges
you
mentioned-
that
maybe
we've
heard
more
than
enough
I'm
my
ears
are
open
to
hear
even
more
because
I
I
I
appreciate
that
the.
C
Conflict
of
the
challenge
between
rise
and
costs
here
in
charleston,
particularly
on
housing
and
and
firefighters,
pay.
Frankly,
it
applies
to
all
city
employees
pay,
given
the
cost
of
housing
in
our
area,
and
it's
it's
it's
a
big
issue,
even
beyond
the
fire
department.
So
my
hat's
off
to
you
to
come,
walk
in
here
with
almost
80
vacancies
and
and,
as
you
said,
with
the
end
of
the
summer
with
another
class,
you
will
be
close
to
a
full
complex
compliment.
C
I
think
that's
quite
an
accomplishment
chief
and
my
hats
off
to
you.
I
I
thank
you
also
for
your
transparency
in
acknowledging
our
challenge
with
diversity
in
the
department
and
your
efforts
to
address
that,
and
we
need
to
continue
those
efforts.
You
have
my
support
and
I
think
this
this
council's
support.
C
We
will
be
meeting
this
thursday.
As
you
know,
I'd
ask
some
hr
to
to
review
all
the
salaries
within
a
90-day
period.
The
the
hr
committee
meeting
is
set
for
this
coming
thursday,
where
we'll
discuss
that,
I
think
my
my
colleagues
here
on
the
committee
and
on
council
are
are
going
to
have
to
seriously
deal
with.
You
know
our
pay
plan,
not
just
in
the
fire
department
but
citywide.
C
We
did
so
last
year,
we're
going
to
have
to
do
it
again.
I
mean
the
labor
market
is
such
that
keeping
employees
getting
them
trained,
paying
them
enough
so
that
they
can
afford
to
live
here.
It's
it's
a
real
challenge
for
for
our
organization
as
a
whole.
So
I
look
forward
to
that
discussion
on
thursday
and
look
forward
to
hearing
even
more
feedback.
C
I
don't
think
we
have
heard
enough
of
and-
and
we
have
some
things
to
report
this
coming
week-
if
you
want
to
get
a
citizen's
advisory
committee
going
again
chief
out,
let's
let's
move
forward
and
get
that
done,
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
positive
thing
will
involve
more
community
members.
I
think
it's
been
very
positive
for
the
police
department.
C
They
of
course
had
a
different
set
of
challenges
and
needs
which
led
them
to
have
a
police
advisory
committee,
but
it's
been
positive
and
it
also
led
to
a
support
organization
called
lens
that
you
know
has
been
supportive
of
our
police
department.
I
think
having
a
similar
organization
on
the
fire
side
would
be
a
very
positive
thing.
So,
a
okay.
Let's
move
forward
with
that.
Thanks
for
all.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,.
A
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
chief.
One
more
thing
I
don't
want
to
bite
into
shannon's
tom
he's
been
very
patient
and
hanging
in
with
us.
The
one
other
comment
that
you
made
about
facilities
was
the
milford
street.
In
my
conversations
with
some
of
our
other
staff
senior
staff
members,
it's
it's!
Okay!
From
your
perspective
that
we
can
sort
of
cut
you
out
from
the
rest
of
what
the
complex
that's
at
milford
street,
so
that
you
just
need
to
have.
D
D
If
we
could
condense
all
the
fire
department
operations,
except
for
the
fire
stations,
if
we
could
condense
all
our
operations
into
one
complex,
that
would
be
the
most
beneficial
situation,
but
I
do
realize,
especially
if
you
talk
about
training.
Obviously
we
have
to
burn
things
to
train
firefighters
and
you're,
going
to
want
the
fire
department,
training
component,
somewhat
removed
from
the
rest
of
the
city
complex,
because
if
not
you're
going
to
get
smoke
in
your
office
building-
and
you
don't
want
that-
so
it
would
be
okay
to
harvest
out
somewhere
else.
Okay,.
A
Chief,
let's,
let's
get
back
together
with
the
citizens
advisor
group,
I
I
like
the
idea
of
keeping
it
the
name,
the
board
of
fire
masters.
I
think
it
has
a
historical
component
to
it,
but
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
with
retooling
it
in
its
mission
is
going
to
be
the
critical
part
of
that.
Sir
glad
to
do
it
all
right,
shannon
we'll
jump
right
into
you
right
now.
So
thank
you.
Chief.
G
Well,
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
members
of
the
committee,
thanks
for
having
me
I
will,
I
will
be
brief,
but
thorough
and
happy
to
take
your
questions
at
the
end
of
it.
Just
like
the
fire
department
emergency
management,
it's
got
a
lot
of
great
things
happening
right
now.
You'll
probably
recall,
mr
mike
tito,
moved
on
to
to
other
things
with
a
new
career
and
we've
since
hired
a
new
staff.
G
Member
in
shannon
whitehead,
you'll
likely
see
emails
from
her
in
the
future
about
you
know
some
of
the
weather
alerts
and
warnings
as
they
as
they
come
to
us.
You
know
we're
we're
approaching
that
rainy
season
now
it's
spring
and
summer
coming
so
shannon
whitehead
is
her
name
she's
coming
to
us
by
way
of
fema
phenomenal
staff.
Member
already
we've
got
her
training
up
very
quickly
on
operations
in
charleston,
and
things
are
going
really
well
with
her.
The
cooper
river
bridge
run
was
highly
successful.
G
I
mean
the
numbers
this
year
were
not
quite
back
to
the
normal
numbers
that
you
would
see
from
years
past
approaching.
40
000
we're
probably
about
half
strength,
but
I'll
suspect
that
if,
as
long
as
things
continue
to
trend
in
terms
of
the
pandemic
and
all
that
maybe
next
year,
we
see
even
larger
numbers
and
start
to
feel
even
more
at
normal,
normal
speed,
normal
strength.
G
You
know,
speaking
of
covid,
we're
looking
at
you
know
in
terms
of
sheltering
and
hurricanes,
and
things
like
that.
Continuing
on
with
that
same
flavor
things
getting
back
to
the
way
they
used
to
be,
but
one
of
the
one
of
the
elements
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now
in
emergency
management
is
rebuilding
our
incident
management
team
you'll
recall
that
in
a
pre-her
covet
environment
we
had
everybody
stacked
up
in
the
in
the
meock
for
operations
looks
like
we
can
start
sort
of
getting
back
to
that.
G
We've
we've
lost
some
key
folks
in
that
incident:
management
team,
just
through
normal
attrition
people
moving
on
so
we're
doing
a
recruiting
effort
right
now
with
the
city
staff
to
to
bring
some
new
talent
into
that
meock
to
help
us
sort
of
prepare
for
respond
to
and
recover
from
the
hurricanes.
G
If
we
happen
to
see
one
this
year,
we
have
a
an
earthquake
exercise
coming
up,
that's
being
led
by
charleston
county
we're.
Gonna
engage
with
that
fully.
In
fact,
we'll
do
a
partial
activation
of
the
mioc
on
june
1st
to
support
that
earthquake
exercise.
G
We
are
still
working
on
some
plans.
You'll
recall.
Several
months
ago
we
talked
about
an
emergency
operations
plan
with
you
with
the
staff
of
three.
We
continue
to
try
to
work
on
those
annexes
most
recently
dialed
in
on
on
earthquakes.
As
you
know,
we've
got
the
exercise
coming,
so
we've
been
focusing
on
that
additional
plans
that
we're
looking
at
a
hazard
mitigation
plan,
a
continuity
of
operations
plan
and
a
recovery
plan.
G
We
had
several
months
ago
now
we
had
a
homeland
security
summit
hosted
by
the
mills
house,
where
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
recovery
from
an
emergency
or
disaster
that
would
hit
the
charleston
area,
and
so
I
really
want
to
devote
some
time
and
energy
over
2023
to
nailing
down
a
recovery
plan
for
us
and
just
sort
of
strengthening
our
preparedness
as
a
city
looks
like
I've
got.
Maybe
three
minutes
left
here,
but
in
terms
of
hurricane
status
I
think
this
year.
G
So
we've
reactivated
the
hurricane
task
force
you'll
remember
a
few
years
ago
with
povid,
I
wanted
to
sort
of
manage
the
covid
response,
but
also
have
a
few
key
folks
that
were
working
just
just
on
the
hurricane
element
and
that's
what
we've
already
started
doing.
G
We've
reviewed
our
bus
stop
locations
around
the
city
for
evacuations,
we're
reviewing
our
city-wide
employee,
birthing
and
feeding
plans.
G
We
again
are
working
with
law
enforcement
on
the
sheltering
security,
I'm
happy
to
report
that
that
charleston
county
space
availability
for
shelters
has
now
gotten
back
up
to
pre-covered
numbers,
so
we're
in
the
neighborhood
neighborhood
of
3500
available
spaces
across
six
shelters
in
charleston
county
and
those
shelters
are
good
for
a
category
three
or
below
and
as
we
all
know,
you
know
it
basically
based
on
the
needs
of
you
know
our
citizens
in
terms
of
how
many
of
those
are
open.
G
But
that
largely
lies
with
charlton
county
and
then,
of
course,
berkeley
county
has
several
thousand
as
well,
so
we're
we're
getting
back
to
some
pretty
good
shape
there
in
terms
of
shelter,
space
availability,
the
sandbag
locations
have
been
reviewed
and
are
ready
to
go.
I
think
we're
up
to
about
90
000
sandbags
available
with
20
000
at
james
island.
G
Our
our
debris
management
sites
have
been
approved
by
dhec
and
our
hurricane
outreach
has
already
started.
The
staff
was
out
this
weekend
at
a
local
event
on
saturday
passing
out
hurricane
guides
and
those
sorts
of
things.
G
You
know,
of
course,
we
grow
every
year
and
we
have
folks
that
come
into
the
city
or
into
the
surrounding
areas
that
have
never
seen
or
experienced
a
hurricane
like
a
lot
of
us
have,
and
so
they
may
not
have
the
education
in
terms
of
what
the
real
risk
factors
are
right
with
like
storm
surge
and
those
kinds
of
things.
G
So
when
that
evacuation
order
is
given
the
message
is
really,
you
know,
button
up
the
house,
get
your
stuff
packed
and
and
get
to
your
chosen
evacuation
location
so
with
our
whopping
staff
of
three.
That
is.
That
is
what
we're
working
on
right
now,
as
you
would
expect
post
bridge
run,
we
immediately
shift
right
into
hurricane
season
and
get
going
on
that.
G
A
And
that
was
a
very
quick
reader's
digest
run
through
and
appreciate
that.
There's
still-
and
I
know
we
you
and
I
talked
about
this
constantly-
there
still
are
no
facilities
on
the
peninsula
available
for
evacuation
sites.
That's
female
requirements.
I
know
that's
a
problem.
A
I
would
love
to
have
that
modified
so
that
folks
who
live
on
the
peninsula
have
a
place
to
go
in
case
of
an
emergency.
The
one
other
question
I
would
have
for
you.
A
This
sounds
kind
of
small,
but
when
we
have
these
sandbag
distribution
sites
and
we've
had
them
in
my
backyard
literally
at
sumar
street
in
the
past,
hopefully
you
will
be
needing
to
look
for
a
different
site
besides
sumar
street,
in
the
immediate
future,
and
I
would
also
just
encourage
you
to
have
some
either
a
team
captain
or
a
team
leader
of
some
sort.
A
I
go
out
there
in
the
past
several
years
where
we
had
these
sort
of
directing,
where
the
sand
is
supposed
to
be
headed
and
sort
of
organizing
and
making
sure
that
we've
got
some
kind
of
level
of
coordination
out
there
at
the
actual
site.
So
I
would
just
ask
you
to
look
at
that.
A
I
know
we
bring
in
all
different
staff
members
from
different
departments
recreations
out
there
and
a
host
of
other
folks
are
pitching
in
and
helping,
but
it
would
help,
I
think,
to
some
other
level
make
sure
we're
coordinated
a
little
bit
better
at
those
sites.
Hopefully
we
don't
need
anything
for
2022
keep
our
fingers
crossed,
but
in
that
light
likelihood
I
would
ask
you
to
look
at
what
happens
at
that
site,
and
I
can
I
can
share
with
you
my
experience
being
on
site
for
that
for
the
past
several
years.
A
So
all
right,
so
any
questions
comments
input
from
my
committee
members
on
from
what
shannon
had
to
offer
us.
A
Okay
well
mayor.
Thank
you.
We've
got
to
hop
on
to
a
three
o'clock
real
estate
committee
meeting,
shannon
thank
you
all
chief
courier,
steve
rumlin.
Thank
you
all
for
your
some
very
prompt
input
on
all
this
stuff
and
we'll
be
I'll.
See
you
around
so
send
us
that
chief
cory
don't
forget
to
send
us
that
powerpoint
presentation
he.