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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 2/13/2023
B
All
right,
hello,
everybody
call
a
meeting
order
and
let's
recognize
a
moment
of
silence,.
B
And
we
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
January
23rd.
B
D
B
Thank
you
all
in
favor
of
those
minutes
would
you
please
say
aye
aye
aye
opposed.
Thank
you.
I'd,
like
to
ask
to
we've,
got
a
number
of
discussions
and
I'd
like
to
request
to
move
some
of
the
actionable
items
above
the
discussion
with
discussions
and
down
and
items
F,
but
some
of
the
actionable
items
where
we
need
to
vote
on
would
actually
be
in
G,
so
I
like
that.
B
If
it's
okay,
if
we
can
do
it
by
acclimation,
move
item
G
and
some
of
the
discussion
after
we
we're
going
to
actionable
items,
any
comments
from
any
committee
members.
B
Right
great
acceptance
and
dedication
of
rights
away,
Mr
O'brien.
E
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman,
what
this
is
is
another
one
of
our
authorizations
to
give
dot
notice
that
we
will
accept
maintenance
of
those
items.
The
project
at
518,
East,
Bay
Street,
it's
one
of
our
standard
letters.
I
got
you.
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
for
approval
out
there
from
the
motion.
I
should
yeah,
okay,
taking
it
by
council
member
pill,
any
more
discussion
on
that
rights
of
way.
Hearing
that
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
item
e.
We
got
a
lot
of
yeah.
E
If
you
can
see
a
lot
of
that
is
irrigation,
we
also
have
some
awnings
and
some
different
things,
but
all
of
them
have
been
is
properly
inspected
and
recommended
for
approval,
and
we
just
give
them
to
the
committee
as
information.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
bye
and
we're
gonna
Skip
and
go
to
item
G
and
then
swing
back
to
some
of
the
discussions
update
on
spring
Fishburne
project,
Mr
fountain.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
I
was
going
to
ask
you
if
you
would
mind.
Actually
if
we
brought
item
nine
in
well,
let's
do
that
in
nfg.
That's
we
have
Mr
Wes
Wilson
here
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
I
was
hoping
to
well.
B
By
all
means,
let's
do
that
with
the
pledge
of
the
committee.
Of
course,
let's
go
to
item
nine
Mr
Fountain.
F
Yep,
thank
you
Sherman,
so
item
nine
is
the
MUSC
Pump
Station
upfit
agreement
with
the
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
through
the
department
of
army.
Basically,
this
is
to
recommend
approving
a
collaborative
funding
agreement
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
where
they
contribute
three
million
dollars
in
federal
funding
towards
the
upfit
of
that
pump
station
and
the
city
contributes
one
million
dollars
of
funding.
F
I
can
go
into
this
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
but
this
would
be
the
city
could
contributing
in-kind
services
for
design
and
then
any
remaining
contribution
towards
the
construction
project
and
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
basically
contributing
the
construction
of
that
Pump
Pump
Station
outfit-
and
let
me
just
share
very
briefly
Mr
chairman,
as
a
reminder
which
Pump
Station
we're
talking
about.
This
is
the
MUSC
Pump
Station
over
off
of
Courtney
Courtney
Drive,
here,
Ralph
h,
Johnson
Street.
B
F
Sense
of
what
this
pump
station
does
on
the
left.
We
can
see
the
the
flooding,
basically
that
would
occur
with
no
Pump
Station
on
Courtney,
which
is
a
main
Corridor
through
the
Medical
District
in
extending
out
here
to
Dowdy.
You
can
see
on
the
right
when
we
have
a
functional,
Pump
Station,
that
Corridor
stays
dry
and
this
is
on
a
10-year
storm.
So
it's
not
a.
A
F
Hurricane,
but
basically
just
a
large
large
rainstorms.
So
what
we're
proposing
in
this?
This
agreement
is
again
a
collaborative
project
with
the
engineers,
75-25
cost
split,
City,
leading
the
design
process
and
then
the
Army
Corps,
leading
the
contractor
construction
project
and,
as
I
mentioned
Mr
Wilson
is
here.
If
there
are
any
questions
for
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
as
well,
Mr.
B
Wilson
number
one
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
the
collaboration.
I
can
tell
you
every
time
you
come
with
a
three
to
one
funding
situation,
we're
going
to
put
you
number
one
on
the
agenda.
Okay,
any
comments,
Mr
Wilson,
somehow.
B
A
E
B
Mr
fountain's
gonna
take
care
of
it,
but
anyway,
thanks
for
being
on
and
making
the
attempt
any
any
questions
of
Mr
fountain
on
this
upgrade
to
the
pump
station.
B
F
That's
a
very
good
question,
Mr
chairman,
so
this
this
pump
station
was
put
in
originally
by
MUSC
and
then
taken
over
by
the
city
for
operation
and
maintenance
a
little
over
12
about
10
to
12
years
ago.
F
F
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
one
basically
upfit
it
to
ensure
continued
service,
but
two,
as
you
mentioned,
to
try
to
bring
a
little
bit
of
a
better
level
of
service
for
these
increasing
storm
sizes
that
we've
been
seeing
and
the
increasing
flooding
in
that
area
of
the
what's,
both
the
spring
and
Fishburn
drainage
basin,
as
well
as
now,
the
Basin
served
by
the
pump
station
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
looking
to
basically
enhance
the
existing
Pump
Station
do
a
little
bit
more
than
it
does
now
and
continue
it
for
another
20
years
of
successful
service.
F
B
F
I
think
we
could
return
to
our
regularly
scheduled
program.
B
S:
okay,
spring
Fisher
and
Mr
Fountain
G1.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
is
an
update
on
the
spring
Fishburn
project
as
we're
achieving
some
milestones.
F
We
wanted
to
keep
the
committee
up
to
date
on
what
is
obviously
a
very
large
investment
for
the
city
and
the
state
infrastructure
Bank.
So
this
is
the
current
state
of
the
spring
Fishburn
project.
Basically,
we
are
now
bringing
the
surface
collection
system
into
connection
with
that
deep
tunnel
and
outfall
that
have
been
completed
into
the
marsh.
So
what
what
are
90
of
the
surface
connections
have
now
been
activated
so
are
are
connected
into
the
tunnel
and
are
flowing
out
through
gravity
through
that
outfall
system.
F
So
that
includes
basically
what
you're,
seeing
on
the
on
the
figure
in
the
yellow
highlight
and
in
the
green
highlight.
All
of
those
systems
are
directly
connected
into
the
spring
Fishburn
project.
Now
many
of
those
are
obviously
some
of
the
most
flooded
areas
of
the
city,
which
is
why
the
the
project
originated
everything
from
the
septimal
clerk,
Corridor
and
yellow
to
President
Street
running
north
south.
Here
with
the
cross
streets
of
Bogard
spring
Fishburn,
Arlington
Streets
at
Ashley,
Avenue,
Rutledge,
Avenue,
Shepard,
Street,
and
then
the
surrounding
streets
tie
into
those
green
sections
as
well.
F
So
everything
in
red
will
now
be
seeing
some
level
of
drainage
Improvement
on
the
project.
The
only
area
that
we're
still
working
to
tie
in
is
the
Cherry
Street
and
B
Street
section
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
project.
That's
our
last.
The
crews
will
be
out
there
again
tomorrow,
working
on
the
connections,
basically
as
they
plug
areas
to
avoid
tidal
inflow
to
the
project
and
then
connect
the
surface
drainage
after
those
tidal
plugs
are
made.
So
we
expect
that
to
be
you
know,
barring
any
additional
strange
weather.
F
We
expect
those
to
be
working
likely
by
the
end
of
February
as
well
and
have
again
gravity
flow
for
the
system
right
online
there'll
be
another
significant
Improvement.
Once
we
have
the
pumps
installed
in
phase
5,
but
there
is,
there
is
depending
on
how
high
the
tide
comes,
a
still
a
very
significant
Improvement
in
how
quickly
things
will
drain,
even
just
from
this
gravity
component
during
those
low
tide
cycles,
especially
so.
B
Hypothetically,
we
get
a
rain
bomb
on
low
tide.
These
areas
won't
I,
guess
won't
won't
flood
like
they
do
now.
F
You'll
see
them
at
least
drain
much
faster
that
you
won't
see
that
stand
in
flood
water,
anymore,
it'll.
The
water
will
actively
be
coming
down
as
soon
as
that
rain
starts
to
Abate,
rather
than
having
you
know
a
day
or
two
of
the
water
you
might
have,
and
it
depends
on
how
big
the
storm
is
and
how
intense,
but
you
might
have
an
hour
of
standing
water
or
something
along
those
lines.
So
much
much
improved.
B
G
That's
I
I,
just
I,
just
some
things
can
happen
to
you
when
you're
in
council
chambers
and
council
member
Moody
had
brought
this
up
and
it
was
like
hello
Houston.
We
have
a,
we
have
a
problem
that
he
brought
up
and
we
were
so
far
behind
on
on
this
project
in
behind
on
different
levels,
behind
different
levels.
On
the
construction
part,
the
Improvement
part,
the
the
financing
part
I
mean
it
was
like,
oh
dear
God,
where,
where
are
we
and
how
bad
is
it,
and
so
over
I?
G
I
I
This
funding
for
I
know
a
lot
of
times.
They
do
the
engineering
right,
but
in
this
case
the
funding
for
this
drainage
Improvement
would
not
be
there,
but
for
our
partnership
with
the
Corps
of
Engineers.
I
They
they
really
did
a
terrific
job,
not
just
helping
think
about
the
engineering,
but
how
to
get
this
done
and
to
utilize
a
congressional
authorization
that
had
in
fact
been
sitting
out
there
for
a
while.
So
my
Kudos
off
to
to
our
partners
at
the
at
the
core
and
then
back
to
this
one
and
many
many
people
involved.
But
Steve
Kerr
deserves
a
gold
star
on
this.
B
I
This
is
just
like
almost
like
a
career
project,
so
he's
been
living
it
that's
true,
he's
he's
he's
been
incredible
on
this
project.
Lots
of
other
people
have
too
I
get
it,
but
Steve
Kirk
has
really
really
been
amazing.
Thank.
B
You
for
those
observations
and
recognition,
because
they
definitely
well
deserved
Mr
cool
as
well
is
you
know,
we've
all
seen
how
excited
Steve
gets
to
talk
about
this
one.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Mr
Smith
update
on
glamor,
counter
Parkway
drainage,
pipe
project,
Mr
fountain.
F
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
the
Glenn
McConnell
pipe
project
is,
as
you
all
may
recall,
was
where
we
were
looking
based
on
Paul
Pub
snapshot
of
kind
of
where
we've
been
on
this
one
as
well,
based
on
some
recommendations
were
made
by
Weston
Sampson
back
in
2017
in
the
church
Creek
analysis.
Looking
at
trying
to
reconnect,
like
daughter
under
Glenn
McConnell
to
the
Long
Branch
Creek
System,
to
try
to
relieve
some
of
the
flooding
in
Lake
daughter,
as
well
as
potentially
some
of
the
flooding
in
Long
Branch
Creek.
F
We
basically
worked
through
some
additional
in
modeling
work
with
Weston
Sampson
showed
there.
There
wouldn't
be
as
much
direct
benefit
to
the
church,
Creek
Basin,
but
there
would
be
significant
benefit
to
that.
Like
daughter,
Basin
and
potentially
The
Long
Branch
Creek
Basin
partnered
with
the
County
Charleston
County,
who
is
doing
the
Glenn
McConnell
widening
project
to
see
what
could
we
do
to
try
to
put
those
two
projects
together?
F
You'll
probably
recall
that
we
did
get
an
unfortunate
decision
from
the
Department
of
Revenue
at
the
state
saying
that
the
sales
tax
dollars
were
not
eligible
for
that
project.
However,
County
council
did
step
forward
through
some
I
think
good
negotiating
between
our
council
members
and
our
mayor
and
their
County
Council,
and
come
up
with
arpa
funding
to
put
towards
some
of
the
project
work.
F
So
we
did
Advance
working
through
design
and
permitting
finished
our
construction
drawings
with
our
consultant
Wesson
Sampson
and
we've
been
working
through
the
the
environmental
permitting
on
that
project.
Now,
for
a
couple
of
years,
unfortunately,
based
on
the
time
frame
the
county
has
for
when
that
construction
needs
to
occur,
to
not
disrupt
the
widening
project.
F
So
we've
been
working
with
the
county
and
looking
at
different
options,
and
we
wanted
to
bring
back
to
the
committee
what
our
recommendation
would
be
at
a
staff
level
which
would
be
to
notify
the
county
that
we
are
not
going
to
install
the
Jack
and
board
pipes,
which
is
a
jack
and
boring
as
the
French
list
technology.
Where
you
basically
dig
under
the
road
and
literally
Jack
the
pipes
through
the
roadway
as
you're
working,
that
we
will
break
that
out
into
a
separate
contract
in
the
future.
F
B
F
Utility
relocations
do
require
opening
up
the
road
opening
up
the
asphalt
disrupting
traffic,
and
it's
one
thing
to
do
that
as
part
of
the
Glenn
McConnell
project,
where
they're
doing
all
those
things
anyway,
we
would
like
to
avoid
you
know
finishing
that
project
then
immediately
coming
back
a
year
later
and
reopening
I
would
expect.
Obviously
we'll
have
to
have
the
discussions
with
their
contractor.
But
the
way
the
line
item
bids
are
broken
out.
It
shouldn't
be
too
disruptive
to
do
that.
F
I
think
the
county
tentatively
has
expressed
interest
in
still
doing
the
50
50
match
on
that
work
and
then
reserving
their
other
money
for
a
future
Jack
and
board
contract,
and
the
advantage
is
if
we
go
that
route
you
know.
Basically,
the
pipe
installation
has
no
like
intrinsic
connection
to
the
road
work.
It's
a
separate,
Standalone
contractor
that
will
do
the
install.
F
So
there
isn't
much
difference
doing
it
as
part
of
their
project
is
versus
doing
a
standard
project.
It's
always
easier
to
combine
projects
from
a
management
perspective,
which
was
the
intent
originally,
but
this
actually,
the
one
benefit
we
have
of
the
county
using
arpa
funding
rather
than
sales
tax
funding
is
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
part
of
the
sales
tax
project
because
it's
no
longer
tied
to
that
funding
stream.
F
So
that's
our
recommendation
at
this
point
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
something
the
committee
was
comfortable
with
before
you
reach
out
to
the
the
county
and
make
that
as
a
formal
request
and
then
we'll
bring
back
to
council.
If
there
is
an
approval,
what
the
exact
dollar
amounts
will
be.
J
Thank
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that
explanation,
pretty
much
as
always.
That's
going
to
sound
a
lot
better
than
when
I
try
to
digest
it
and
explain
it
later,
but
just
to
be
clear.
So
this
this
will
not
require
a
second
disruption
of
Clinton
McConnell
Parkway
to
go
back
and
and
do
the
pipe
work
later.
F
So
and
Engineers
hate
comments
exactly
like
that,
councilman
similar
to
probably
attorneys
there
will
certainly
be
some
level
of
disruption
to
bring
in
a
construction
equipment
and
set
the
you
know,
remove
guard
rail
and
set
alternative
guardrail
treatments
for
protecting
the
workers.
There
will
not
be
an
extended
lane,
closure
or
Road
impacts,
while
you're
digging
trenches
through
the
road
and
taking
up
those
utilities.
F
So
it's
a
a
much
much
much
much
less
impactful
traffic
disruption,
it's
more
a
normal
out
of
the
right-of-way
construction,
where
you
have
construction
vehicles
coming
in
and
out
and
Crews
coming
in
and
out
rather
than
working
in
the
road
and
having
to
close
the
whole
Road.
J
Look
the
so
functionally
it
achieves
that
objective.
Yes
and
then,
since
council
member,
she
was
expected,
he
would.
He
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
money
that
the
city
has
allocated
and
the
money
that
the
county
has
allocated
these
are
all
still
in
place
to
get
forward
with
this
work,
when
the
the
time
is
right,
I
guess
like
when
all
the
when
everything's
definitely
the.
F
Place
so
I
I
suspect
that
the
mayor
wanted
to
chime
in
a
little
bit
on
that
councilman
with
the
the
funding.
But
my
understanding
is
that
the
county
has
said:
yes,
they
are
continuing
to
be
committed
to
the
project
and
with
that
Arbor
funding,
they
have
more
flexibility
than
they
would
have
with
a
sales
tax
funding.
I
Mayor,
thank
you
Mr,
chairman
and
yeah.
To
that
point,
I
just
thought
I
would
confirm.
I
had
a
conversation
with
chairman
sass
about
this,
and
and
let
him
know
that
we
may
have
to
you
know,
do
the
project
or
most
of
the
project
separately
rather
than
as
part
of
their
project
and
regarding
the
funding.
I
He
saw
no
reason
what,
from
his
point
of
view
as
to
what
you
know,
there'd,
be
no
change
in
the
County's
commitment
to
to
what
they
had
already
committed
to
already,
even
though
it
might
happen
as
a
separate
project.
Thank
you.
I
J
Just
from
from
my
recollection,
there
was
what
the
county
was
going
to
kick
in
and
then
we
kicked
it
and
a
certain
amount
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
mentioned
the
counties
part.
So
our
part,
that's
good,
to
go
as
well.
I
Yeah,
no,
our
our
money
was
dedicated
and
and
funded
and
chairman
sass
says
they're
good
to
their
commitment
as
well.
So
could
the
project
cost
change
a
little
bit
I
guess
by
splitting
it
up?
Maybe
it
goes
up
slightly
Matt,
but
I.
Don't
think
it
would
be
anything
that
we
shouldn't
be
able
to
handle.
F
Is
committed
we
haven't
proposed
any
modifications
to
that
allocated
funding,
that's
correct.
B
Probably
want
to
Circle
back
with
council
member
Sheely,
probably
on
the
bar
on
that.
Absolutely
any
final
questions
on
this
update
to
do
up
number
three
G3
Mr
fountain.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
and
I
have
a
couple
of
Graphics,
depending
on
the
exact
area
you
might
want
to
focus
on
for
the
updater
I
can
give
you
a
general
update
of
where
we
stand
overall
on
the
project.
I.
B
Guess
a
general
update,
plus
the
idea,
I
think
you
at
least
some
discussion
on
some
of
the
water.
That's
coming
underneath
Savannah
into
this
drainage
basin
and
having
to
Circle
through
twice
to
get
out
come.
A
B
F
F
Most
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
the
Epic
Center
shifting
control
of
the
ownership
group
from
what
was
previously
a
minor
funding
party
into
now.
The
controlling
party
we've
met
with
them
and
they're
basically
saying
they're
they're
indicating
a
similar
path
forward.
They
would
still
like
to
dedicate
those
easements
and
be
part
of
this
project.
They're
just
trying
to
I
think
adjust
their
or
digest
their
acquisition.
They
expect
to
get
back
with
us
in
the
next
month
or
two
to
hopefully
finalize
some
of
those
easement
decisions.
F
We
continue
to
work
on
the
southern
end
of
the
property
along
Highway
17,
with
some
of
the
larger
property
owners
through
the
drainage
system
in
that
area
for
easement
acquisition.
There's.
Certainly,
a
number
of
developments
proposed
on
some
of
those
projects,
we're
coordinating
with
the
county
and
with
the
design
Engineers
who
are
developing
those
projects
and
then,
as
councilman
wearing
mentioned,
there
is
to
the
the
South,
and,
let
me
perhaps
start
off
with
a
slightly
different
graphic
than
I
was
going
to.
F
There
is
to
the
South,
basically
the
neighborhood
of
air
Harbor
and
Citadel
Woods.
If
you're
familiar
with
those
you
come
down,
Stinson
drive
to
the
south
side
of
the
greenway
and
basically
that
neighborhood.
Let
me
share
my.
J
F
That
neighborhood
here
there
we
go
Culver
Clover,
Avenue,
Cessna,
Wildwood
town
homes
during
my
aerial
basically
flow
through
some
of
that
neighborhood
to
the
north,
especially
flows
through
this
Pond,
underneath
the
Wildwood,
townhomes
and
kind
of
up
through
this
Green
Space
back
here
through
the
Ruby
Tuesday's
parking
lot
across
Highway
17
and
then
into
the
drainage
system
that
eventually
flows
across
Sam
Rittenberg
up
through
Citadel
mall
across
526
down
behind
Costco
back
across
Highway
17
back
under
the
greenway
and
then
out
past
Orange
Grove
elementary
middle
schools
into
the
marsh.
F
F
Yeah,
it's
not
the
most
effective
drainage,
design,
I'm
sure
it.
There
was
a
reason
for
it
at
some
point.
It's
it's
now
quite
difficult
for
the
water
to
successfully
make
that
pathway.
We
have
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
collaboration
with
the
County
over
the
last
couple
of
years
in
rehabilitating
some
of
the
pipes
and
drainage
system
that
are
under
the
the
town
homes
here,
which
are
individually
owned,
townhomes
in
a
community
improving
some
of
the
ditching
and
drainage
systems.
F
So
we've
we've
come
back
and
done
quite
a
bit
of
again
drainage,
rehab
work,
the
city
owns
a
piece
of
old
right-of-way.
Actually,
that
comes
through
here
looks
like
old,
railroad,
old
rail
line
right
of
way
right
and
we've
been
now
looking.
Let
me
stop
this
share.
Another
way,
hopefully
have
a
sense
of
where
we
are
and
switch
to
the
figure
I
was
going
to
share,
which
is
much
more
confusing,
but
I
think
more
helpful.
J
F
Not
helpful
my
screen
jumped
wonderfully.
B
F
That
any
better
all
right,
yeah
I'm,
just
going
to
stay
on
the
screen,
even
though
it's
harder
to
read
it
I
go
to
presentation
mode.
It's
it's
kicking
it
back!
Okay,
sorry,
okay!
So
the
town
homes
are
on
the
bottom
side.
Again,
we've
improved
that
drainage.
You
can
see
this
old
rail
line
right
of
way
that
runs
through
we've,
been
working
this
with
the
county,
trying
to
basically
open
that
back
up
and
be
able
to
hold
more
water
on
city
property
instead
of
in
all
of
the
Residential
Properties
right.
F
How,
as
you
mentioned,
God's
wondering
what
we've
been
working
with
with
the
county
and
the
county
is
taking
the
lead
on
this
part
of
it
is
they've
hired
a
consultant
to
look
at
bringing
the
water
down
the
city
right
of
way
tying
it
back
into
the
greenway
here
and
then
coming
West
Down
The
Greenway,
to
where
the
greenway
meets
the
marsh
instead
of
into
the
DuPont
wapu
system,
which
is
already
overloaded.
So.
B
F
A
quicker
route
out,
but
does
involve
more
more
design
and
construction
work
to
figure
out
with
that
grade.
How
deep
do
the
ditches
need
to
be?
Do
we
have
to
switch
to
pipes
along
that
section
of
the
greenway
and,
as
we
all
know,
the
greenway
is
not,
in
fact
you
know
the
city's
property.
We
we.
B
F
Of
it
from
CWS,
then
there's
coordination
with
CWS
right,
probably
fit
that
infrastructure
into
their
system.
So
that's
that
is
in
design
now
at
the
counties
with
the
county
with
I
think
they
hired
West
and
Samson.
Actually,
on
that
section,
look
at
that
system
city
is
continuing
to
do
work
in
the
area
we
actually
just
installed
the
the
town
home
neighborhood,
granted
some
drainage
easements
to
us,
and
we
actually
went
out
and
dug
out
some
swales
and
additional
storage
in
here.
F
We
just
went
back
and
removed
some
more
of
the
kind
of
scrub
trees
through
this
area
and
and
dug
out
some
more
of
your
storage
and
we're
looking
at
doing
additional
storage.
Beyond
that,
this
section
was
actually
funded
as
a
city,
small
project
that
would
run
from
fiscal
year.
Let's
see
last
year,
we
started
it
and
then
continuing
this
year
and
into
next
year
is
how
the
funding
is
is
recommended
for
spread.
So
last
year
we
did
a
lot
of
that
heavy
Rehabilitation
this
year.
F
We've
done
some
tree
removal
and
a
little
bit
of
additional
excavation
work
and
the
county
starting
their
luck.
And
then
next
year
we'll
be
looking
to
likely
dig
out
more
of
the
the
high
area
that
was
the
old
rail
bed
and
potentially
store
that
water
in
the
hope
of
providing
that
new
outfall
out
with
the
county.
Once
we
have
a
sense
of
what
the
county
is
going
to
do
so
a
lot
of
work
going
on
in
this
area.
It
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
relatively
heavily
flooded
residential
neighborhoods
that
we
deal
with.
B
Any
questions
from
committee
members
councilmember.
G
F
So
the
the
town
home
complex
is
in
the
city,
most
of
the
commercial
properties
are
in
the
city
and
then
an
error
in
air
Harbor,
well,
Citadel
Woods,
which
is
the
neighborhood
immediately
south
of
here,
is
completely
within
the
city
and
then
air
Harbor,
which
is
just
south
of
Citadel
Woods,
that's
more,
like
probably
I,
have
to
run
the
exact
numbers,
but
I
would
guess
like
40
City,
30
City
in
the
remainder
County.
So
the
county
is
chipping
in
because
of
that
heavy
contribution
of
air
Harbor.
F
F
Well,
right,
that's
correct,
so
this
this
water
right
now
all
flows
north
into
that
Dupont,
wapu
District,
which
then
contributes
to
the
the
flooding.
Obviously
that
we
have
throughout
all
of
DuPont,
Oahu,
really
and
Dubai
wapu
is,
if
you
all
remember,
is-
is
in
that
75,
roughly
75
25
jurisdictional
split
with
City
being
about
75
and
County
being
about
25,
and
that's
where
we've
done
some
cost
matching
on
those
projects
as
well.
F
So
the
idea
that
Council
Waring
was
mentioning
and
I
think
was
one
of
the
things
that
he
and
some
other
gentlemen
proposed
a
few
years
ago
was.
Could
we
take
some
of
this
water
and
direct
it
out
a
different
way,
that's
more
efficient
to
the
marsh,
rather
than
pushing
it
into
the
coupon
wapu
neighborhood
that
it
goes
now
and
basically
causing
flooding
in
that
neighborhood
as
well,
so
it
floods.
You
know
two
neighborhoods
currently
right.
B
G
You
know
this
is
just
one
of
those
issues:
councilman
you
and
I
have
about
it
back
and
forth
about
annexation,
well,
fortunate
that
we've
had
good
cooperation,
even
with
the
late
daughter
of
that
we
were
talking
about
earlier,
getting
the
County's
cooperation
with
that
and
and
the
state's
involvement,
and
then
this
we're
fortunate
as
well,
that
we're
able
to
point
and
I
think
this
goes
by
probably
to
my
early
days
on
Council,
maybe
maybe
even
before
this
was
on
the
radar
screen
yeah
in
getting
this
done.
B
G
G
Of
that,
that's
right,
so
thanks
Matt
for
that
update.
That's
just
such
good
information
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
with
this
and
it
impacts
of
several
city
council
districts
as
well.
I.
A
C
Even
it
even
helps
County
council
member
districts
correct.
B
Mr
Charlie
again
thank
you,
discussion
regarding
Lake
Sandhurst,
councilman,
well,
Mr,
Fountain
and
then
councilman.
She
yeah.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
one
that
councilman
had
requested,
looking
at
a
request
that
had
been
sent
in
to
him,
I
think
from
the
neighborhood
that
surrounds
like
Sandhurst
on
some
challenges,
they're
having
with
the
kind
of
the
lake
that
also
serves
somewhat
as
a
drainage
feature
for
the
community
and
if
it's
okay,
to
share
my
constantly
take
it
from
from
there
and
I'm.
G
Happy
to
yeah
our
time,
and
so
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
for
getting
this
on
the
agenda.
We
may
have
some
folks
who
may
have
tried
to
log
in
so
back
in
December,
before
Christmas
time,
I
received
an
email
from
the
president
of
the
lake
Sanders
Association,
which
you
know
you
think
you
hear
it
all
watch
Shelbyville
city
council,
and
this
was
a
new
one
for
me.
Frankly,
even
though
I
had
walked
in
Sandhurst
and
ridden
around
Sanders,
like
a
million
times,
I
was
unaware
that
there
was
a
lake
Sandhurst.
G
Nevertheless,
a
lake
Sandhurst
Association,
so
I've
been
in
contact
with
Matt
about
it
and
with
the
legal
department
and
meeting
with
the
people
who
are
members
of
this.
So
this
is
about
30
or
so
different
residences
that
circle
around
this
body
of
water
called
Lake
Sandhurst,
going
back
to
the
early
to
mid
1960s
when
Sandhurst
was
was
developed
in
and
built
out.
So
this
was
a
amenity
Lake,
which
some
of
the
old
timers
will
tell
me
that
there
were
swimming
in
the
lake
swinging
off
of
a
tree.
G
Vine,
maybe
even
doing
a
little
canoeing.
It
was
just
that
deep.
So,
apparently,
over
time
the
lake
has
filled
in
silted
in
I
guess,
and
we
have.
We
have
City
stormwater
rain
off
ditches
that
feed
into
this
Lake
there's
a
there's,
a
dam
of
an
earth
and
Dam
built
to
keep
the
water
in
and
they've
got
pipes
that
feed
the
water
out
into
into
the
ash
into
the
March
into
the
Ashley
River.
G
Well,
over
time,
this
lake
has
gotten
more
shallow
and
less
of
an
amenity,
and
it's
in
some
people's
eyes.
It
may
be
even
a
nuisance.
To
some
extent,
it's
beautiful
out
there
when
you,
when
you
walk
around
the
neighborhood,
it's
it's
lovely
out
there,
but
they've
got
some
serious
issues
now
with
with
the
lake
and
it's
soaking
in
and
maintenance
of,
this
Dam
has
become
a
costly
functioned
for
everybody.
I'm,
not
asking
anybody
to
do
anything
tonight.
I'm
just
wanted
to
bring
this
to
council's
attention.
G
Mr
chairman
I've
asked
the
issues
dealing
with
this.
We've
got
the
legal
department
looking
into
the
cities,
I
I'll
use
the
lack
of
a
better
word
involvement,
our
responsibility.
If,
if
there's
some
regarding
this,
of
course,
as
we
have
found
out
over
the
course
of
time
when
you
are
traveling
back
into
the
1960s
record,
keeping
was
not
as
good
as
it
is
right
now
and
getting
access
to
easements
or
the
or
the
verification
of
easements
out.
G
There
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
an
issue,
so
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
my
constituents
from
Lake
Sandhurst
are
on
here.
If
they
wanted
to
add
something
to
what
I'm
saying
I
did
meet
with
them
in
late
January,
they
have
an
annual
meeting.
We
were
at
the
Westminster
Presbyterian
Church.
It
was
a
very
crowded
meeting
with
a
lot
of
questions.
G
They
have
contracted
with
Truluck
construction
company
to
address
some
of
the
issues
dealing
with
with
the
with
the
dam
out
there,
but
they
may
be
looking
towards
the
city
for
some
assistance,
since
we've
been
using
the
lake
as
I
guess,
for
lack
of
a
better
way
of
saying
that
this
is
probably
not
the
right
term,
but
as
a
retention
late
to
retention
Pond
to
receive
some
of
the
stormwater
runoff.
So
we
got
some
issues
involved
in
it.
G
My
purpose
of
bringing
this
forward
was
just
for
discussion
purposes
and
let
Council
be
aware
of
what
we
may
be
coming
back
to
for
some
future
reference
on
on
this.
The
Slate
I
appreciate
the
time
to
talk
with
y'all
I
appreciate
Matt
and
legal
department.
Looking
into
this
for
me,
so
that's
where
we
sort
of
stand.
We
can
write
down
Mr
chairman.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
bringing
us
forward
any
any
comments,
additional
comments
on
that
discussion,
so
this
would
be
coming
back
sooner
rather
than
later,
probably
yeah
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Fountain
and
councilman
Shahid
procurement,
discussion.
B
May
be
a
G5,
we
had
a
budget
Workshop
by
the
week
last
week,
sometime
and
and
I
had
a
good
bit
of
discussion
on
this
one.
Where
so
about
20
years
or
more
staff
level.
Improvement
was
at
forty
thousand
and
we
had
a
good
discussion
carrying
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
and
Mr
Fountain
I
see
you've
got
it
a
nice
presentation.
You
want
to
move
forward.
That's.
F
Ms
Martin
I
think
has
it's
funny.
If
that's
okay,
Mr
chairman.
B
Was
what
would
you
let
us
know
your
thoughts
on
this
I.
D
Will
some
of
this
will
be
for
a
few
of
you,
but
are
so
that
we've
had
a
team
of
people
that
have
been
working
on
some
procurement,
excellence
and
I
have
just
the
people
that
Gary
Cooper
our
procurement
director,
Robin
Robinson,
our
senior
buyers,
Susan
petite,
Ruth,
Jordan,
Miller,
Sharon,
legal
and
Matt
frolick,
who
have
been
on
this
team
and
they've,
been
mapping
our
procurement
process
to
identify
pain
points?
D
We've
conducted
a
dozen
interviews
with
staff
about
the
process
challenges
and
they
created
an
implementation
plan
to
address
one
of
the
biggest
challenges.
What
they
did
find
is
the
biggest
challenge
we
have
is
timing,
delays
in
our
in
our
process,
so
one
way
that
we
could
combat
that
issue
would
be
to
increase
the
city's
threshold
for
a
formal,
competitive
procurement
which
is
at
currently
at
thirty
thousand
dollars.
D
They
did
some
research
with
other
cities
and
found
that
our
our
city
specials
are
much
lower
than
nearly
everybody
around
us
and,
as
a
result,
we
discussed
the
potential
of
the
city
increasing
its
formal,
competitive
procurement
threshold
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
with
other
adjustments
to
the
policy
to
account
for
this
change
and,
as
you
all
know,
the
the
city
council
approval
limit
right
now
is
forty
thousand.
So
you
see
anything,
that's
forty
thousand
dollars
and
above
so
the
last
time
we.
D
D
That
rate
has
been
2.27
per
year
between
2007
and
today,
with
a
cumulative
price
increase
of
43.14.
So
today's
prices
are
1.43
times
as
high
as
average
prices
in
2007..
D
So
our
our
dollar
only
buys
69.93
of
what
we
could
buy
back
then
just
as
additional
information,
our
large
indefinite.
So
we've
had
other
small
increases
in
2019.
We
increased
our
indefinite
delivery
contract,
which
we
will
say
from
now
on
IDC
contracts
from
300
000
to
500
000..
These
are
mainly
used
by
our
storm
water
department
and
Matt
can
speak
to
this
and
we
increase
them
due
to
the
high
cost
of
the
of
the
contract
of
the
contracts
and
just
the
cost
of
the
projects
that
they
do.
D
We
are
now
requesting
to
increase
that
to
750
000
from
500
000..
All
of
that
was
still
come
to
council
for
approval.
It's
just
the
contract
amount
in
itself,
so
it
would
still
come
to
council
for
approval.
We're
not
asking
that
staff
have
the
only
way
to
approve
up
to
750.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
That
was
confusing.
Last
time
we
talked
about
it
and
then
the
formal
solicitation
amount
was
increased
in
2019
from
twenty
thousand
to
thirty
thousand
thousand
dollars
and
we're
requesting
to
increase
that
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
D
So
these
are
our
current
limits
that
we
have
council
is
40
000.
We're
asked
forty
thousand
we're
asking
to
increase
that
to
a
hundred.
You
can
see
all
these
other
things
where
the
large
IBC
contract
is
500,
000,
we're
asking
for
750
and
the
formal
solution
solicitation
from
thirty
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand.
B
Okay,
thank
you
Miss!
Well,
could
you
touch
on?
Are
you
all
Mr
Fountain
you're
still
going
to
be
competitiveness
in
this
now
so
I
mean
not
like
won't
be
competitively
shot
just
won't
take
as
long.
D
That's
right
so
I
just
have
a
little
bit
of
Statistics
So,
based
on
2022,
increasing
the
limits
on
the
previous
slide
as
we're
requesting
Council.
We
would
just
reduce
the
amount
of
items
going
to
council
by
32.9.
If
you
just
base
it
on
2022.,
so
Council
would
still
be
approving
67
of
the
transactions,
so
you
can
see
for
Capital
project
items,
the
number
of
items
that
were
below
50,
000
or
I'm,
sorry
that
were
below
the
council.
D
D
Just
to
give
you
some
context,
but
nine
of
those
items
were
for
vehicles
and
equipment,
and
you
know
too,
we
have
that
big
long
discussion
about
our
issue
with
with
trying
to
buy
vehicles
right
now
with
the
way
the
market
is
so
when
we
said
that
these
limits
would
help
us
in
that
regard.
This
is
a
good
example
of
that,
because
nine
of
those
items
are
are
for
vehicles
and
equipment
that
are
below
a
hundred
thousand.
There
are
17
additional
items
on
the
agenda.
D
D
So
just
putting
in
contacts
in
the
number
of
of
items
you'll
still
be
seeing
we'll
be
saving
a
little
bit,
but
you
will
Council
most
will
be
seeing
the
majority
of
the
items
still
that
makes
sense,
and
these
are
our
limits
compared
to
other
jurisdictions
as
they
currently
stand.
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
and
then
there
was
one
other
question
that
came
with
this
with
this
process
and
it's
about
minority
and
women,
business
enterprises,
Enterprise.
D
I'm,
sorry,
vendors,
so
we
we
realized
that
we're
one
of
the
problems
that
could
happen
is
if
it
might
hurt
our
wmwbe
participation,
and
we
did
a
little
bit
of
research
on
that
and
Charleston
County
has
a
mandatory
program
for
for
this,
which
we
could
also
include
in
our
policy.
We
talked
about
this
at
ad
hoc
last
week
and
based
on
those
conversations,
we
would
draft
a
policy
that
would
be
included
in
in
the
proposed
changes
that
we'll
bring
to
council
later.
B
B
Sorry,
council,
member
Bowden,
you
have
a
question
I.
J
D
J
D
I
Mayor,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
and,
regarding
this
requirement,
I
would
on
certification
list.
I
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
there's
a
move
afoot
by
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
we're
partnering
with
them
to
kind
of
consolidate
everybody's
certification
lists
so
that
it,
in
my
view,
it
kind
of
expands,
the
pool
of
potential
minority
and
women-owned
vendors,
and
so
I
I
would
like,
as
as
long
as
we're
kind
of
in
the
same
Club
I,
think
we
honor,
for
example,
the
county
certification
process,
even
though
we
have
our
own
and-
and
maybe
some
more
thought
needs
to
go
into
this,
but
I'd
like
the
pool
to
be
as
broad
as
possible
as
long
as
we're
comfortable
with
everybody's
certification,
you
know,
like
the
the
dot,
has
a
certification
as
well,
and
you
know.
I
Sometimes
there
might
not.
There
might
be
a
minority
business,
that's
on
the
D.O.T
list
or
the
county
list.
That's
not
on
ours,
and
it
would
be
good
to
to.
You
know,
combine
everybody's
list
to
have
it
as
inclusive
as
possible
and.
F
I
think
your
next
Mr
chairman
on
it
quite
a
bit
that
this,
the
intent
of
this
for
us
at
least
for
a
stormwater
perspective
and
I,
think
public
service
is
involved.
If
Mr
Brown
was
chiman.
Is
that
trying
to
speed
up
some
of
the
smaller,
more
straightforward
projects
by
basically
being
able
to
take
them
to
construction
quicker?
They
still
go
through
the
legal
review.
They
still
go
through
Contracting.
They
still
go
through
competitive
procurement.
B
B
Thank
you,
but
some
credit
on
this
certainly
needs
to
go
to
council.
Lady
Parker.
We
had
a
she
called
a
meeting
with
Mr
Fountain,
as
well
as
some
sustainability
for
called
small
projects
and
as
part
of
that
discussion,
she
came
up
one
of
the
handcuffs
people
and
our
staff
is
just
you
know,
40
this
low
approval
limit,
which
and
I
know
staff
have
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while,
but
I'm
really
glad
this
has
bubble
up
to
the
top
to
now
be,
hopefully
an
actual
item
coming
before
Council.
G
B
B
No
problem,
thank
you,
Mr
Fountain,
Ms,
Wharton,
actually,
Council,
woman,
Parker
and
I
had
another
hand
in
that
too.
So
really,
it's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
on
this
for
actually
probably
two
three
years
and
I'm
glad
to
see
it
now.
Yeah.
B
I
mentioned
earlier,
yeah,
so
I
think
all
the
people
in
capital
projects,
everybody
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thanks
low
battery
wall,
Mr
fountain.
F
Okay,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
is
the
phase
four
design
contract
we're
recommending
it's
in
the
form
of
a
fee
Amendment.
The
way
we
do
our
professional
service
contracts,
but
this
is
adding
in
the
Design
Services
design
and
permanent
services
for
phase
four,
which
is
the
Final
Phase,
stretching
from
the
end
of
phase
three
at
roughly
King
Street,
all
the
way
around
to
South
battery
about
1200
feet
of
wall,
the
the
cost
of
Design,
Services,
460,
000,
fourteen
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
B
A
B
Newman
all
the
team
on
this
one
man
that
I've
been
sending
people
down
to
low
battery
by
extremes,
I'm
just
so
proud
of.
What's
taking
place
there,
any
questions
on
this
all
in
favor.
Would
you
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you,
Mr
Fountain
spring
Fishburn.
B
F
You
for
sure
this
is
a
part
of
phase
five,
the
the
early
phase,
five,
the
pump
procurement,
where
basically
we're
providing
owner
furnished
equipment
due
to
the
lead
time
on
the
large
pumps
for
the
station,
we'll
have
to
recall
we
previously
approved
about
six
million
dollars
to
purchase
the
three
very
large
pumps
for
the
project.
F
Due
to
the
timing
of
when
those
pumps
will
be
delivered,
which
the
lead
time
on
the
pumps
is
long
and
actually
the
lead
time
on
the
diesel
engines
that
power,
the
pumps
is
even
slightly
longer
than
that.
The
pumps
will
basically
be
coming
in
after
we've
been
able
to
construct
the
majority
of
the
pump
station.
F
So
what
we're
going
to
do
or
we're
recommending
to
do
is
to
basically,
after
the
pumps
are
assembled
tested
and
proofed
at
the
factory,
they
will
disassemble
the
pumps
ship
them
disassembled,
and
then
they
will
be
installed
by
the
the
internal
crane
system
for
the
actual
Pump
Station.
That's
built
to
eventually
be
able
to
service
and
replace
the
pumps
at
some
point
in
the
future.
So
there
is
an
additional
cost
to
disassemble
those
pumps,
we'll
tip
them.
F
That
way,
but
it
does
let
us
build
the
Pump
Station,
instead
of
basically
waiting
to
build
the
pump
station
until
the
pumps
have
arrived.
Well,
there
is
a
cost
in
this
contract.
It
does
mean
that
the
construction
contractor
doesn't
have
to
mobilize
the
extremely
large
screen
and
likely
close
down
part
of
Lockwood
that
it
would
take
to
normally
install
those
pumps
into
the
the
base.
F
So
we
would
expect
a
very
similar
cost
reduction
in
the
eventual
Construction
contract,
which
will
be
bidding
in
the
next
few
months,
so
I
would,
while
there
is
an
increase
in
this
cost
generally,
it's
a
roughly
cost
neutral
approach
for
the
project.
There's
also
included
in
this
item,
adding
the
sales
and
I'm
sorry
the
sales
news
tax,
which
is
the
remittance
of
use
tax.
That's
in
here
so
that's
162,
000
on
the
original
6
million,
because
it's
an
out-of-state
vendor-
and
there
often
is
a
lot
of
confusion
on
whether
tax
should
be
charged
or
not.
F
B
B
F
F
Unfortunately,
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
does
not
have
a
funding
authorization
or
appropriation
to
help
us
with
this
project.
This
is
one
that
we've
been
doing
in-house.
F
F
If
you
recall,
we
have
black
and
Beach
is
our
primary
design
consultant
because
we're
upfitting
this
Pump
Station.
Well,
it
has
to
continue
running
in
front
of
the
IAM
as
it's
opening
we're
running
this
as
a
construction
manager
at
risk
contract
we're
basically
the
contractor
and
engineer
all
work
collaboratively
to
come
up
with
a
GMP.
F
It's
it's
very
challenging
to
run
a
pump
station
while
you're
improving
it.
So
it's
good
to
have
that
contractor
in
from
day
one
working
with
the
engineer
from
an
early
point
of
contract,
working
with
the
engineer
on
how
exactly
all
those
kind
of
careful
synchronization
will
be
handled.
So
this
is
the
pre-construction
services
contract
on
the
competitively
RFQ
and
procured
Professional
Services
of
that
construction
manager
at
risk
contract.
The
pre-construction
service
work
with
Ruby
Collins,
which
was
the
firm
selected
by
the
selection
committee,
is
542
490.
F
This
includes
the
costs
to
basically
go
in
and
de-water
the
tunnel
and
wet
well
system
have
staff
go
down
with
a
crane
and
the
safety
protocols
with
the
safety
company
down
into
the
tunnel
to
inspect
the
wet
well
and
verify
any
repairs
or
improvements
that
need
to
be
made
as
part
of
the
design
contract.
That's
part
of
the
reason
the
cost
is
higher,
because
that
tends
to
be
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
work.
Privilege.
B
B
Well,
the
comments
you
know:
Mr
Fountain,
don't
apologize
for
all
those
monies
become
so
appropriate
because
when
we
appropriate
money
on
stormwater
project
people,
issues
get
solved
any
additional
comments
on
item
seven
hearing.
None.
Some
motion.
Sorry
item
item
eight
Mr,
chairman
I'm,
sorry,
I,
said
seven,
but
I
met
a
ustralia,
probably
moving
seconded
any
more
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye,
aye
Danny.
Of
course.
Thank
you
now.
I
want
to
thank
the
people
who
waited
on
item
f,
one
two
and
three.
We
got
to
those
actionable
items.
K
Megan
our
afternoon
German
nothing
new
to
report.
Everything
is
running
on
time
this
week
last
week,
we're
getting
garbage
trucks
back
out.
Finally,
parts
are
arriving,
so
we've
been
able
to
fix
that
stuff
and
and
get
the
trucks
back
out
and
running
other
than
that
everything
seems
to
be
running
really
good,
and
hopefully
it
continues
that
wait.
This
week,
oh.
K
Figured
it
would
help
this
week
last
week
was
really
good,
like
I
said
we're
getting
trucks
out,
and
you
know
I
think
we
should
be
good
next
week
for
the
holiday
having
everything
up
and
running.
Okay.
B
Listen
thanks
for
with
all
you
all
doing:
Mr
autop
and
Mr
O'brien
Mr
council
member
pill.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Matt.
How
are
y'all
doing
on
the
Staffing
side?
I
know
we
got
an
update,
maybe
a
month
or
so
ago,
just
wanted
to
maybe
get
a
little
update
from
you.
Yeah.
K
So
we're
bringing
some
new
employees
online.
Last
week
we
had
a
new
sweeper
driver
start
a
couple
of
ground
custodians
out
there
for
King
Street.
We
have
a
couple
other
offers
for
garbage
driver
and
another
trash
driver.
K
C
E
On
the
route
supervisor
we
were
able
to
promote
from
within
which
I
think
is
very
important
here
in
the
city,
this
is
a
young
man.
Who's
worked
his
way
up
through
the
ranks
and
now
he's
gonna
be
taking
a
supervisory
position,
and
we
found
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
up
there
in
our
operational
activities,
with
doing
that
and
I
think
Matt
made
a
really
good
choice
and
this
young
man
we're
looking
for
good
things
from,
but
I
just
want
to
report.
E
B
Great
observation,
thank
you,
Mr
Brian
and
Mr
altarp
and
your
team
email
input
all
right.
F2
update
on
Dominion
tree
trimming,
yeah
I,
assume
it's
powerful,
has.
E
Our
staff
members
and
also
Jason
cronsberg
and
I
think
David
Grant
from
Urban
forestry's
on
the
line
and
I'm
just
going
to
turn
it
over
to
him.
This
is
something
if
you
zoomed
on
laser.
Council
has
spoken
about
at
some
meetings
recently,
so
with
your
bathroom
update,
so
we're
just
going
to
turn
over
them
and
let
them
speak
and
let
you
guys
ask
them
some
questions
all
right.
H
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
invitation
chairman
Waring
Mr
O'brien.
We
certainly
value
and
appreciate
our
partnership
with
the
council
and
City
staff
as
we
work
to
safeguard
our
critical
infrastructure,
as
well
as
our
employees
and
the
public,
while
also
working
with
staff,
to
eliminate
future
conflicts
through
a
right
tree
right
place.
Focus
joining
me
tonight
is
Clay
Chaplin
Jay
is
one
of
our
certified.
Arborists
and
Clay
is
managing
the
two
products
that
we
currently
have
underway
with
the
City
of
Charleston,
so
I'll
switch
now
to
screen
share
and
we
will
be
underway.
H
H
All
right,
can
you
hear
me,
sir?
We
can
all
right
great
Dominion
Energy
has
thousands
of
miles
of
overhead
distribution
and
transmission
lines
in
South
Carolina,
and
that
includes
hundreds
of
miles
within
the
City
of
Charleston.
So
with
a
growing
season
here
on
the
coast
of
nearly
300
days
a
year,
we
must
undertake
vegetation
management
somewhere
across
our
system
every
single
day
in
Charleston,
of
course,
that
effort
is
led
by
our
certified
arborists,
who
also
carry
an
additional
certification
by
the
international
Society
of
Arbor
culture
as
utility
Specialists.
H
So
tonight
we'll
discuss
our
public
Outreach,
our
coordination
with
the
city,
reliability
and
our
current
utility
safe
guarding
projects.
As
far
as
public
Outreach
and
coordination
with
the
City
of
Charleston.
We
are
really
focused
on
on
this
and
have
a
number
of
methods
here
that
I've
that
I've
indicated
these
include
an
email
or
postcard
to
customers.
We,
we
typically
Target
two
or
three
weeks
ahead
of
when
we're
going
to
be
in
their
neighborhoods
and
include
a
phone
number
for
questions.
H
We
have
coordinated
with
the
South
Carolina
Native
Plant
Society,
for
a
list
of
recommended
plantings
that
are
compatible
with
overhead
power
lines.
That
list,
as
well
as
several
videos
on
how
we
trim
why
we
trim
Storm
Restoration
an
outage
map,
as
well
as
how
to
stay
safe.
Around
power
lines
are
all
on
our
website
and
promoted
through
various
social
media
Outlets
throughout
the
year
and
just
this
year
we're
really
excited
you'll,
see
on
your
map,
a
screen
grab
from
a
new
interactive
trimming
map
on
on
my
screen.
H
This
is
something
we
they've
been
working
on
for
a
while
and
excited
to
launch
generally,
if
your
constituents
see
a
crew
around
town
and
want
to
know
if
we'll
be
trimming
in
their
neighborhood,
if
they're
they're
headed
their
way,
they
can
now
look
it
up
on
this
interactive
map.
So
we're
really
really
proud
of
that.
I
cannot
stress
enough
what
a
great
team
you
have
in
the
parks
department
led
by
Jason
cronsberg.
Without
a
doubt,
they
are
advocates
for
healthy
canopy,
effective
projects
and
good
customer
communication.
Our
coordination
with
them
has
been
multifaceted.
H
First,
we
meet
annually,
of
course,
to
review
the
upcoming
years.
Projects
also
provide
a
general
monthly
status
report,
but,
more
importantly,
your
Urban
Forester,
David,
Grant
and
others
talk
to
our
team
routinely.
They
visit
sensitive
areas
ahead
of
work,
commencing.
They
provide
inspections,
investigate
complaints
and
concerns.
Basically
that
team
is
your
eyes
in
the
field.
Behind
our
work
for
several
years,
we've
jointly
hosted
public
informational
drop-ins,
like
the
one
just
recently
held
at
Charlestown
Landing.
This
past
fall
ahead
of
the
West
Ashley
work
that
you'll
hear
about
shortly.
H
The
commitment
of
council
and
staff
to
a
streamlined
underground
process,
including
a
staff
member
and
task
force
dedicated
to
that,
as
well
as
an
updated
street
street
tree
manual.
Excuse
me
that
informs
the
development
review
and
permitting
process
are
all
keys
to
right,
tree
right,
place.
I
think
we're
all
excited
about
the
potential
to
eliminate
future
conflicts.
So
maybe
one
time
sometime
in
the
near
future,
we
won't
be
having
these
meetings
about
tree
franning.
H
So
our
work
is
critical
to
the
number
one
responsibility
and
obligation
we
have
for
safety
and
reliability.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
there
is
nothing
else
that
matters
to
our
company:
more
customers
expect
it
and
our
Regulators
require
it.
We
do
not
have
a
choice
on
removing
conflicts,
whether
it's
indirect
or
direct
with
people
or
with
our
infrastructure,
that
that
is
what
drives
us.
The
number
one
cause
of
outages
on
our
system.
H
Hands
down
is
trees
and
tree
limbs,
keeping
a
regular
cycle
to
take
back
reflushing
sucker
growth
on
existing
vegetation
is
really
the
key
to
this
reliability
and
to
safety.
This
chart
on
the
left
shows
the
average
number
of
minutes.
Customers
have
been
without
power
in
four-year
intervals.
You'll
see
that
we've
reduced
the
average
annual
outage
on
our
system.
Now
this
is
absent
major
storms,
but
by
more
than
40
percent,
since
2002
20,
and
so
in
that
20-year
span,
we
have
gone
down
to
an
average
of
only
84
minutes
on
the
system.
This
exceeds
the
beats.
H
The
southeast
average
major
storms
are
their
own
animal,
but
a
regular
and
aren't
are
not
included
in
these
numbers,
but
but
a
regular
safeguarding
program
has
made
the
difference.
I
was
thinking
and
putting
this
together
during
Hurricane
Hugo
I
was
out
without
power
for
three
weeks
granted.
That
was
a
monster
record-breaking
storm,
but
the
expectations
nowadays
are
quite
different.
All
of
us
on
the
call
on
this
in
this
meeting
get
calls
within
hours
now
of
a
storm
passing
by
not
within
weeks.
H
So
that
may
be
a
little
unrealistic,
but
we
understand
that
the
evolving
expectations
that
we
we're
just
dealt
with
today
and
continue
to
strive
to
harden
the
system
with
maintenance
and
response
preparation.
Now
it's
not
three
weeks
most
customers
in
our
recent
major
events
were
restored
within
48
hours
and
we're
very
proud
of
that.
But
it
takes
the
work
like
we're
talking
about
today
with
the
constant
Management
program
day
in
and
day
out,
though,
our
major
driver
is
safety.
H
Keeping
Limbs
and
other
vegetation
outside
of
the
danger
zone
is
pivotal
to
keeping
both
our
employees
and
our
customers
your
citizens
safe
again.
We
do
not
have
a
choice
in
this,
but
very
much
appreciate
your
understanding
and
Report.
The
support
support
of
that
responsibility,
which
translates
to
cruise
in
the
neighborhoods
and
calls
to
you
so
I,
will
turn
it
over
to
Clay.
Now.
L
Thank
you.
So
our
vegetation
Management
program
here
at
Dominion
is
an
integral
integral
part
of
maintaining
our
system
and
safe
and
reliable
system.
We
manage
the
system
on
a
five-year
cycle,
so
every
five
years
we'll
be
returning
to
the
same
location,
the
same
neighborhoods
to
do
our
pruning
Cycles,
the
diagram
on
the
screen.
It's
a
good
depiction
of
the
actual
facilities
we
have
in
the
field
and
the
clearances
and
the
safe
zones
that
we
we
try
to
manage.
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
lot
of
calls
come
in
both
to
us
and
the
city
asking
about
service
wires
and
we
do
trim
for
abrasion
on
those,
but
they
do
not
get
the
10
foot
clearances
that
the
primary
wires
do
I'll
continue
to
the
next
slide,
so
our
specs.
How
do
we
obtain
those
spec
clearances?
We
use
the
proper
trimming
techniques.
L
L
You
have
a
10
foot
clearance
where
that
10
foot
clearance
is
you
do
not
get
a
proper
cut
when
you
make
the
cut
there,
so
you
have
to
go
further
than
that
10
foot
to
make
that
proper,
cut
at
the
proper
location
on
that
tree
and
in
doing
so,
making
the
Proper
Cuts
at
the
proper
locations
you
wind
up
with
the
v-shape
and
the
L-shaped
trees
that
you
see
on
the
right.
I
know
we
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
those.
L
The
city
gets
a
lot
of
questions
about
those,
but
yes,
it
is
the
proper
way
to
prune
and
once
they're
proved
that
way.
You
have
a
structure
during
the
five-year
cycle
you
do
have
regrowth,
but
that
structure
stays
there
and
then
you
can
trim
right
back
to
that
same
structure.
That
was
there.
The
next
cycle.
L
Let's
continue
into
the
projects
that
we're
doing
right
now,
j16.
This
is
a
current
project.
That's
started
in
2022,
it
was
a
2022
project.
It's
carried
over
into
2023
approximately
19
miles
estimated
completion
in
the
mid-February.
We've
included.
Some
pictures
on
here.
These
are
common
problems
that
we
that
will
occur
all
along
our
system
in
Charleston.
You
know
wires
coming
too
close
you'll
have
palm
trees
coming
in
contact
with
wires.
These
are
all
common
issues
on
all
of.
E
L
Projects
that
are
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
but
the
map
of
j16
is
to
the
right
and
that
it
takes
in
some
sensitive
areas
on
the
peninsula:
Wagner
Terrace,
Hampton,
Park
area,
Rutledge,
Avenue
parks
and
Rutledge
parts
of
King
Street.
So
it's
pretty
sensitive
area,
but
we're
going
to
be
wrapping
that
up
very
soon.
L
We'll
continue
on
to
the
the
next
current
project,
which
is
actually
project
k-14,
West
Ashley.
This
is
a
huge
project,
so
approximately
100
miles
of
overhead
lines,
the
work
we
can
last
December
2022
it
started
a
little
early.
This
is
a
2023
project,
so
it
started
just
a
little
about
a
month
early
we
did
have
an
Outreach
right
beforehand.
We
started
sending
out
some
notifications.
We
actually
had
the
Outreach
before
then,
and
we
had
had
a
little
turnout
for
that.
We
do
anticipate
having
a
another
Outreach,
because
this
is
such
a
big
project.
L
H
L
Some
more
examples
that
we
have
that
we've
included
on
this
slide.
We've
got
some
some
interference
there
with
the
wire
we
have
palm
fronds
and
palm
seed
heads.
They
start
getting
in
contact
catch
on
fire,
big
issues
for
us
just
trying
to
keep
everything
safe
and
kind
of
to
wrap
that
up.
We
have
Bright
Tree
right
place.
We
can't
stress
this
enough
if
you
start
with
the
right
tree
in
the
right
place,
you'll
kind
of
limit
those
conflicts
in
the
future.
H
Great
and
we
want
to
just
in
closing
recognize
these
are
excerpts
actually
from
the
Charleston
Street
tree
manual
and
really
again
appreciate
Jason
and
David
and
Clark,
and
all
that
team
working
to
be
sure
that
future
development
respects
that
and
has
some
great
guidance
on
on
what
plantings
can
be
where
and
should
be
where
so,
I'll
start
stop
sharing
now,
and
hopefully,
if
that
goes
right,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we're
certainly
here
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
B
Right
hope,
you
feel
better
questions
from
committee
members.
Anybody
want
to
be
recognized.
H
Absolutely
and
thank
you
for
referencing
that
and
we
were
happy
to
send
I'll,
follow
up
and
send
links
to
that
planting
list
and
and
those
kinds
of
things,
so
you
happen
to
share
with
your
constituents,
but
so
excited
about
what
the
city's
doing
on
the
permitting
side
with
development.
So,
hopefully
listen,
I'd
love
to
talk
to
you
about
something
else.
One
year.
G
I
know
you
would,
but
you
know
it's
just
and
God
bless
on
our
constituents,
but
they
are
very
concerned
about
this
they're
very
much
involved
in
it,
and
you
know
this
is
not
a
knock
on.
I
mean
energy,
but
when
you,
when
these
trees
are
planted
so
close
and
they
come
up
and
then
you
trim
them,
they
don't
look
pretty
at
all
and
and
I
think
we
get
more
pushback
from
our
constituents
when
they
see
this
and
thinking
that
we
can
do
a
better
job
with
that.
G
But
I
don't
know,
there's
no
other
way
around
it.
I
mean
the
trees
had
to
be
either
removed,
or
this
is
going
to
be
the
end
product
that
that
trimming
process
with
that
so
yeah.
We
appreciate
the
million
energies
consultation
with
us
and
collaboration
with
us
and
we
could
do
a
better
job
somehow
and
Tammy
we're
all
leaders.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation.
I
Well,
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
me
and
we
appreciate
the
fact
that
your
service
level
and
downtime
has
improved.
That
is
terrific.
You
know,
unfortunately,
for
a
long
time
maybe
the
wrong
species
got
planted
in
the
wrong
space
and
in
some
older
parts
of
our
city,
those
live
oak.
Trees
might
have
been
there
before
we
started
to
hang
in
the
wires
they've
been
around
a
long
time,
I'm
just
curious
whether
we
could
you
know
tweak
the
rules
a
little
bit
for
the
most
precious
species.
I
The
one
I'm
thinking
about
is
our
live
oak
trees
I
mean
when
you
go
through
South
Windermere,
council,
member,
Appel
or
or
old
Windermere,
or
over
on
James
Island
anywhere
in
the
city.
Those
trees
are
so
beautiful
and
they're
so
loved,
and
you
know
most
of
them
are
pretty
mature.
They
don't
grow
that
fast
anymore,
I'm,
just
wondering
if,
if
you
could
reduce
the
clearance
from
10
feet,
say
to
seven
or
six
feet
a
little
bit
less
and
give
them
a
little
more
respect
so
to
speak
and
I'm
still
accomplish.
I
You
know
your
goals
in
terms
of
service
level
and
if
there
were
anything
else
like
that,
that
could
and
not
for
every
tree,
but
you
know
particularly
those
that
I
would
look
to
the
arborists
and
in
our
parks
department,
maybe
to
to
tell
me
which
trees
you
know
would
be
considered.
I
only
can
think
of
the
Live
Oak
one,
but
is
that
possible
for
us
to
look
at
that?
Would
that
help
us.
H
Well,
I
would
say
first
that
the
those
beautiful
canopies
and
corridors
have
been
trimmed
many
cycles
over
and
they
continue
to
flush
in
to
continue
to
be
beautiful
canopies.
So
it
is
not.
It
is
not
a
static
moment
in
time,
but
I'll
defer
to
Clay
for
a
comment
on
the
actual
specifications
and
our
safety
requirements.
L
Yeah
I
can
speak
on
that
a
little
bit
because
each
each
situation
is
going
to
be
individual
to
each
tree.
What
we
do
have
with
our
specifications.
We
do
have
some
exceptions
to
the
rules
already
built
in
it's
not,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
a
blanket
exception,
but
each
in
each
limb
like
when
I
have
my
10
foot
minimum.
Sometimes
we
go
further
than
that
10
to
get
a
proper
cut.
Sometimes
that's
sometimes
we
don't
have
that
tip.
Sometimes
we
have
an
exceptional
clearance.
It's
a
little
closer.
H
I'll
defer
to
Jason
and
David
to
speak
to
that
anymore,
but
they
do
look
ahead
of
trimming
and
talk
about
specific
large
trees
and
specimen
trees
like
that
they're
each
each
tree
presents
a
different
situation
and
again
it's
if
there's
a
large
leader,
then
that's
treated
differently
and
and
where
they
can
get
that
safe
clearance.
They
they
have
the
the
latitude
to
trim
less
if
it
still
is
healthy
for
the
tree.
I
I
You
know
by
the
time
your
cruise
contractors
are
out
there.
You
know
trying
to
make
time
and
get
the
job
done.
So
anyway,
still
still
seems
to
me
like
something
we
could
pursue
to
just
trying
to
protect
those
those
really
Grand
trees
as
much
as
possible.
H
A
C
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
Dominion
for
joining
us
on
a
perfectly
nice.
You
know
Monday
evening
to
talk
about
this.
It's
a
very
important
issue
and
especially
for
for
me,
as
as
the
council
member,
that
represents
the
oldest
neighborhoods
in
West
Ashley
and
James
Island,
where
mayor
tecklenburg
alluded
to
a
minute
ago.
You've
just
got
tremendously
wonderful,
trees
and
and
I'm
thinking
about
the
trees
and
the
old
Windermere
neighborhood.
C
You
know
Riverland
Terrace
over
on
James
Island.
These
are
just
truly
remarkable
trees
and
my
my
foray
into
public
office
sort
of
started
around
this
issue
when
the
crews
came
through
the
South
Windermere
area
in
like
the
2018-2019
time
period,
and
we
we
discovered
at
that
time
that
the
tree
protection
agreement
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
SCE
and
G
expired
back
in
1990.
Now,
obviously
there
there
were
still
relationships,
and
there
were.
C
There
was
a
lot
of
that
agreement
being
informally,
honored
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
but
you
know
that
effort
culminated
into
a
new
tree
protection
agreement
being
entered
into
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
Dominion
back
in
2020.,
and
so
really
what
I
wanted
to
do
with
putting
this
item
on
the
agenda
and
having
everybody
convene,
is
just
to
double
triple
and
quadruple
check
that
were
all
on
the
same
page,
we're
all
talking
to
one
another
so
that
we
make
sure
we're
following
the
tree
protection
agreement.
C
We're
following
you
know
the
the
mandates
that
Dominion
is
under
from
the
PSC
and
otherwise
just
to
make
sure
that
when
the
time
comes
for
that
crew,
member
with
the
chainsaw
in
his
hand
that
that
everything
is
connecting
and
and
we're
not
losing
anything
in
Translation-
and
you
know
in
the
medical
industry
when
you're,
when
you're
looking
over
medical
records
and
surgical
records,
you'll
see
oftentimes
depicted
something
called
a
timeout,
and
what
that
is
is
before
people
go
to
operate
on
Limbs
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
They
will
literally
stop
the
proceeding
and
make
sure
everybody
is
on
the
same
page
with
regards
to
what
limb
we're
operating
on,
what
we're
doing.
Why
we're
doing
it
and
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
have
that
built
into
this
process
and
just
to
make
sure
again
there's
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
there's
a
huge
surface
area
that
I'm
you
know,
you're
working
on
in
2023
and
y'all
got
contractors,
and
you
know
we
just
we
just
need
to
make
sure
everything
is
is
harmonized.
C
There
is
language
in
the
true
protection
agreement
for
special
attention
for
Grand
trees
and
the
city
having
the
ability
to
elect
to
have
an
arborist
on
site
when
the
grand
trees
are
being
you
know,
pruned
and
and
I
just
encourage
our
staff
and
Dominion
to
utilize.
You
know
these
these
measures,
where
appropriate,
pre-cutting
pre-sending
the
crews
through
the
neighborhoods
just
to
really
make
sure
that
when
it
comes
to
the
to
the
remarkable
trees,
the
truly
special
trees
that
we
all
have
our
eyes
on
it.
C
We
take
that
time
out
and
we
make
sure
that
we
we
go
in
there
with
the
care
and
attention,
that's
necessary
to
balance.
Of
course,
what
Dominion
has
to
do?
The
very
important
job
Dominion
has
to
do
with
with
our
with
our
trees.
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody:
we've
got
that
agreement
out
there
encourage
everybody
to
talk
to
each
other.
We
do
a
great
job
of
doing
that
already,
but
it
never
hurts
to
double
and
triple
check
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
going.
C
Okay,
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
we
have
you
know
we
have
a
new
underground
and
non-standard
Service
ordinance
in
effect
at
the
City
of
Charleston
so
long
term.
The
the
goal,
at
least
in
some
of
the
older
neighborhoods
is
gonna,
is
to
get
the
lines
underground.
We've
finished
projects
in
the
Crescent,
we
finished
projects
in
Country,
Club
too
we're
almost
getting
there
with
wapu
Heights.
That's
that's
another
story
for
maybe
offline,
but
you
know
old
Windermere
is
a
is
a
neighborhood,
that's
on
the
list.
C
It's
I
think
it's
number
three
or
four,
and
you
know,
let's
also
take
into
account
the
fact
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
trim
a
whole
lot
only
for
you
know
the
the
wires
to
be
underground.
You
know
the
next
year
or
two
we're
also
working
on
ways
to
do
smaller
projects
through
our
undergrounding
process.
We've
even
talked
about
micro
projects
where
you
we
can
literally
just
drop
the
the
lines
underground
for
three
or
four
houses
at
a
time
around
particularly
magnificent
trees.
There's
a
lot
of
complications
and
Technical.
C
You
know
details
that
go
into
this.
I
just
want
to
alert
my
colleagues
and
everybody
else
that
that
work
continues.
It's
something.
We've
got
to
continue
to
prioritize
and
put
the
necessary
resources
and
brain
power
in
dissolving
these
problems,
because
I
think
I
think
the
more
we
can
get
some
of
these
resources
underground,
the
less
conflicts
we
have
because,
of
course,
as
councilman
I'm
sorry
is
the
mayor.
C
Noted
I
mean
the
the
conflicts
in
my
district
are
not
due
to
any
decision
that
anybody
made
since
the
you
know
the
the
FDR
Administration
in
terms
of
when
these
trees
were
planted.
So
this
is
not
you
know,
making
sure
it's
part
of
cane
Hoy
we're
not
planting
trees.
You
know
under
power
lines,
so
we've
got
some
unique
issues
in
this
part
of
town
and
and
I
just
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
keep
talking
with
one
another.
C
I'll,
do
my
part
in
helping
to
get
the
word
out
to
my
constituents
and
and
letting
folks
know,
what's
going
on
why
it's
happening
I
mean
we've
all
seen
it.
You
know
the
no
matter
how
much
publicity
we
do.
The
work
starts
happening
and
people
lose
their
I
mean
it's
it's
a
shock.
It's
it's
a
shock
to
see
your
environment
change
like
this
and
I
understand
what
y'all
are
doing.
C
There's
a
there's,
a
very
good
logical,
rational
explanation
for
it,
but
we're
on
the
receiving
end
of
the
also
very
understandable
emotional
reaction
to
seeing
trees
cut
the
way
that
they're
being
cut
and
I
think
that
if
we
all
continue
to
work
together
and
message
this
properly
and
as
the
mayor
said,
you
know
maybe
give
a
little
bit
of
special
attention
around.
You
know
special
resources.
We
can
bring
this
in
for
as
soft
as
a
landing
as
we
can
and
continue
to
work
together.
C
So
thank
you
all
again
for
all
this
and
if
I
can
help
with
anything,
please
don't
ever
hesitate.
Thank.
B
You
councilman
she.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
and
the
councilman
will
probably
have
to
keep
on
reminding
you
that
my
district
has
the
oldest
neighborhood
and
it's
called
Charlestown
Landing.
G
G
Oldest
neighborhood
in
South
Carolina,
but
I
I
on
a
more
serious
note.
I
do
want
to
emphasize
something
that
you
you
two
things
that
you
said
that
I
think
we
need
to
keep
mindful
of
number
one
is
the
the
area
of
due
diligence
on
all
of
our
parks
to
make
sure
that
the
agreement
is
is
being
followed,
and
the
second
part
is
we
do
have
a
mechanism
burying
some
of
these
lines,
getting
them
out
of
out
of
the
area.
G
It
makes
a
huge
difference
and
Tammy
I
would
suspect
that
the
more
lines
we
have
that
are
below
ground,
as
opposed
to
underground,
would
decrease
that
number
of
power
outages
even
so
much
more
significantly
than
that
graph
that
you
showed
us,
so
that
is
I,
don't
think
we're
taking
full
advantage
of
that
those
opportunities
on
our
new
ordinance,
and
we
need
to
push
that
even
more
vigorously
and
I
would
encourage
us
to
to
do
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
those
two
points
that
you
brought
out
council
member
apparel.
B
G
H
Not
at
all
I
was
just
responding
to
councilman
apparel,
just
a
few
quick
things
that
the
one
I
think
two
of
the
main
purposes
of
our
annual
meeting
are
to
look
very
specifically
at
the
roots,
so
that
those
Grand
Tree
Grand,
Tree
areas
and
areas
of
sensitivity
and
concern,
can
can
be
identified
early
early
on
and
then
we
can.
They,
our
our
staff
and
and
David
ride.
H
Those
areas
go
ahead
and
then
continue
to
you
know
be
mindful
of
when,
when
that
work
is
going
to
happen
as
well
as
talking
about
what
kind
of
public
Outreach
that
they
that
the
city
would
like
to
have
again
surrounding
those
areas
that
that
are
perhaps
more
more
sensitive,
more
more
ecologically
delicate.
B
Thank
you
any
final
comments
to
Ms
Cocker
Bill
and
her
colleague
we're
about
to
come
up
on
the
last
item
on
which
has
been
a
very
challenging
agenda.
A
lot
of
things
on
this
agenda.
B
A
break
on
this
one
today,
so,
let's
move
on
to,
we
had
an
hour
and
a
half
into
this
meeting.
So
let's
move
on
to
18
T,
please!
Yes,.
E
Sir
Mr
chairman
several
recent
council
members,
we
we've
had
some
some
concerns
from
council
members
receiving
from
their
constituents
work
being
done
by
a
t
or
their
subs
in
various
neighborhoods
and
locations.
Three
specific
locations
that
I'm
aware
of
are
Village
Green,
subdivision,
1864,
Piper
drive
and
1528
Birthright
Street
and
we've
received
several
complaints
from
citizens
and
we've
sent
inspectors
out
to
investigate.
E
I
had
the
privilege
today
to
speak
to
Mr
Jason
Eckstein
who's,
the
original
director
for
atnt
and
him
and
I
are
going
to
have
another
meeting
either
sometime
this
week
or
next
week
to
discuss
some
of
these
issues,
as
as
you
aware
he's
as
concerned
as
we
are
and
wants
to
make
sure
that
things
are
done
right
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
basically,
I
was
very
honest
with
him
told
him
in
some
instances
that
the
subs
just
don't
say
to
have
the
same
respect
with
the
ATT
Crews
do,
and
we
just
need
to
make
sure
they
understand
how
important
it
is
to
treat
our
citizens
with
respect.
E
Don't
block
driveways
damages
that
are
done
to
work,
to
ensure
that
we
clear
and
Trace
those
up.
So
I
just
want
to
let
committee
know
that
we
will
be
meeting
with
Mr
Eckstein
and
his
his
team
to
and
I'll
give
you
a
report
after
that
meeting
in
our
next
meeting
as
to
how
that
came
out,
but
he's
he's
as
concerned
as
we
are
about
some
of
the
issues
we've
heard
about.
I
just
wanted
to
pass
that
on
to
everybody.
It
comes.
G
To
me,
yeah
and
thanks
for
putting
us
on
the
agenda
and
Tom,
has
been
very
responsive
to
my
inquiries
about
this,
and
we
mentioned
Birthright
was
one
of
them
who
Tom
I
would
just
add
to
your
laundry
list
of
when
you
had
these
discussions.
Part
of
this
is
just
notice
to
the
neighbor
that
will
be
coming
out.
G
What
is
going
on
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
who
these
folks
are
they're
subcontractors,
there's
no
advance
notice
of
what's
transpiring
and
then
all
the
other
things
that
you
mentioned
are
just
as
equally
as
as
important.
G
You
know
what
we
had
this
anecdotal
issue
when
they
were
out
in
Sandhurst
and
the
rumors
were
that
they
were
preparing
a
bike
path
crossing
over
from
Sandhurst
into
North
Charleston
over
the
North
Bridge
like
it
was.
We
spent
I
think
I
can't
know
how
many
man
hours
we
had
Tom
looked
into
it.
We
had
team
T
folks,
look
into
it.
G
It
was
just
you
know:
Reckless
information
misinformation
being
passed
out
there
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
with
pedestrian
bridge,
but
everybody
thought
they
were
building
a
road
out
there
to
it
and
so
the
harm
that
it
causes
of
our
standpoint,
this
misinformation
and
misconduct
and
just
needs
to
be
addressed
so
Tom,
thanks
for
being
diligent
on
that
and
just.
E
Not
not
to
your
point
also
a
council
member,
just
like
Matt
his
Cruise
did
with
stormwater
when
we're
going
to
be
the
neighborhood
we're
going
to
ask
ATT
when
they're
going
to
be
in
there
doing
work.
Let's
get
that
in
there
and
say
I.
Think
you
or
Tammy
mentioned
that
with
their
operation
also.
So,
as
he
mentioned,
communication
is
so
important.
People
know
what's
going
on
when
it's
going
on
and
what's
going
on,
it
just
makes
it
so
much
easier
on
all
of
us.
J
Councilman,
thank
you.
If
I
could
just
add
that
lesson
and
I
think
that
was
such
a
great
Point
just
who
to
call
if,
if
something
goes
wrong,
I
mean
I.
I
know
they
can
always
reach
out
to
us,
but
it's
not
always
obvious
to
us
who
to
call.
So
we
call
you
Tom,
and
you
know
it's
just
kind
of
a
process.
J
E
And
we'll
work
we'll
work
with
them.
If
you
know
if
the
damages
are
in
the
public,
World
we'll
work
with
them
and
make
sure,
because
on
private
property
is
a
little
bit
different
because
that's
between
the
you
know
the
contractor
and
then
but
we'll
we'll
Point
them
in
the
right
direction
and
I
said.
Jason
was
very
very
concerned
today
when
him
and
I
spoke
so
we'll
we'll
get
together
and
then
have
some
some
good
information
for
you.
Next
time
we
get
together.
B
B
We
call
this
meeting
for
closure.
Great
thank.