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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 5/24/21
B
C
So
I'm
going
to
share
this
prayer.
I
got
from
one
of
the
chaplains
when
I
attended
the
memorial
service
for
fallen
priests.
This
came
from
father,
gabe
smith,
it's
a
long
story,
but
it's
a
wonderful
prayer
for
protection.
It
goes
as
follows:
the
light
of
god
surrounding
the
love
of
god.
Enfools
me,
the
power
of
god,
protects
me.
The
presence
of
god
watches
over
me
the
mind
of
god
guides
me
the
life
of
god
flows
through
me
that
power
god
abides
within
me.
The
joy
of
god.
Uplifts
me,
the
strength
of
god.
B
B
B
E
B
F
Yes,
sir,
I
apologize,
I
didn't
know
mr
o'brien
was
out,
but
these
are
four
dead
dedications.
The
first
three
are
for
subdivisions:
one
is
barron's
drive,
which
is
in
grand
oaks
and
it's
for
barons
drive
which
will
serve
a
development.
I
think
it's
phase,
9
9,
10
and
11
of
grand
oaks,
which
will
be
that
subdivision
should
come
before
you
next
meeting.
F
F
You
had
this
on
your
agenda,
maybe
a
month
ago,
where
the
whitfield
company,
I
think,
deeded
us
the
road
when
we
were
going
through
that
transaction.
I
noticed
that
the
white
fuel
company
had
previously
conveyed
a
portion
of
it
to
university
medical
associates
and
julia
actually
tracked
down
someone
from
universal
medic
medical
associates
who
claimed
what
they
had
been
given
by
the
whitfield
company
to
us.
So
it's
really
to
accept
from
the
current
record
owner
title
to
a
street
that
you've
already
accepted
by
dedication.
B
B
B
G
B
E
So,
j
for
full
disclosure,
we
tried
to
do
this,
we're
all
in
one
room
and
we
tried
to
do
it
separate.
But
that's
not
a
of
all
the
state
regulatory
proceedings
that
I've
done.
I've
always
been
able
to
make
it
work.
We
couldn't
make
it
work,
so
you're
getting
we're
gonna
share,
screen
and
then
bill
turner's
on
one
side
and
tammy's
on
the
other
side.
So
we'll
we'll
make
this.
B
A
A
E
B
E
Yeah,
so
what
I'll?
What
I'll
do
is
bill
turner
and
I
are
going
to
do
the
presentation
and
we'll
split
it
and
then
we'll
we'll
have
a
session
in
the
end
for
for
any
and
all
questions,
but
really
what
we
wanted
to
do
today
is
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
come
and
speak
to
you
regarding
utility
safeguarding
and
the
tree
agreement
with
the
city
of
charleston.
I
think
actually,
your
timing's
actually
impeccable
since
we're
a
week
away
from
hurricane
season
on
g1.
E
So
here's
here's
our
agenda.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
talk
about.
You
know
the
mandates
and
what
we
have
to
do
and
what
we're
statutorily
required
to
do
by
the
state
of
south
carolina
as
an
investor
owned
utility
talk
about
public
interest
and
and
what
we
do
in
order
to
serve
the
public
interest.
E
Yeah,
so
these
are
our
priorities:
they've
always
been
our
priorities
bill
and
I
and
the
team
are
all
dominion-
energy,
south
carolina
employees,
but
even
before
the
merger,
one
of
the
things
we
focused
on
in
the
particular
order
that
I've
laid
it
out
it's
safety
and
that
safety
is
safety
of
our
employees.
It's
safety
of
customers,
it's
safety
of
the
general
public
and
also
respect
of
the
property
that
we
we
serve
in
the
municipalities
and
in
the
entire
territorially
assigned
area
that
we
serve
in
south
carolina.
E
So
secondarily
it's
reliability
and
resiliency.
So
I'll
give
you
a
quick
definition
for
those.
These
are.
You
know:
they're
they're,
national
regulator,
definitions,
so
people
interchange
them
sometimes,
but
reliability
is
the
reduction
in
the
amount
of
minutes
or
the
elimination
of
the
amount
of
minutes
of
outage
of
our
our
customers
on
the
energy
delivery
system.
E
E
So
that
means
when
the
when
the
service
isn't
at
the
right
level,
or
it's
not
adequate
in
terms
of
minutes
of
outage
or
the
restoration's
poorly
done
public
service
commission
besides,
the
public
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
are
going
to
be
the
judges
of
whether
we
did
our
job
subordinate
to
that
is
within
the
municipal
limits.
We
with
all
the
areas
that
we
serve
that
are
outside
the
unassigned,
but
territorially
assigned
areas.
We
have
a
franchise
franchise
agreement.
E
You
know
works
through
the
the
requirements
to
also
re
serve
reliably,
but
it
also
governs
our
need
and
rights
to
use
the
streets
and
rights,
aways
and
public
places
within
the
municipal
limits.
So
it's
a
bilateral
contract
with
the
with
the
city.
I
think
I'll
quote
you
some
quick
statistics.
Just
so
you'll
get
an
idea
of
what
the
value
of
that
contract
is.
E
E
So
here's
quickly
the
two
things
that
I
think
are
the
most
important
sections
of
the
statute
for
the
state.
It's
a
supervision
regulation
of
rates
and
services
and
then
the
adequacy
of
service
and
those
are
they're
symmetrical
they're,
not
one
doesn't
go
without
the
other
you're
spending,
a
lot
of
resource
and
you're
getting
adequate
results
with
respect
to
the
service
level.
But
your
but
your
rates,
don't
support
the
community
or
don't
support
economic
development
in
the
state
of
south
carolina.
E
Then
you've
broken
the
cemetery,
but
they
both
go
together
and
so
the
franchise
governs.
As
I
spoke,
the
the
rights
to
use
the
streets
and
rights
ways
in
public
places,
but
every
customer
that
signs
up
for
service
with
us
also
agrees
to
the
general
terms
and
conditions.
In
other
words,
pursuant
to
taking
service,
the
commission
says
you've
got
to
allow
the
utility
to
do
the
tree
trimming.
Do
the
right
give
provide
right
away,
provide
access
to
our
facilities.
E
E
E
E
On
the
left
hand,
side
excluding
major
storms,
that's
a
sadie,
but
just
to
show
you
we're
also
the
resiliency
piece
or
the
inclusion
of
major
storms.
We
also
track
that.
I
think
2019
was
dorian.
We
had
80
of
our
200
of
the
customers
that
were
out.
There
were
278
000
customers
out,
we
had
those
restored
in
24
hours
and
then
in
18
was
hurricane.
Michael
99
of
those
customers
were
restored
in
less
than
24
hours.
E
So
I'm
going
to
one
more
slide.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
bill
to
kind
of
get
into
the
details
of
you
know
our
safeguarding
program
through
vegetation
management.
I
will
say
that
the
vegetation
management
is
the
key
to
all
those
statistical
measurements
that
I
just
provided:
they're
the
key
to
resiliency
and
reliability.
Without
those
we
don't
restore
the
service
as
fast
as
we
as
you
would
expect
it,
and
those
minutes
of
outage
you'll
get.
E
If
we
didn't
do
what
we
did
today,
I
think
you'd
get
calls
from
people
who
would
demand
that
they
would.
They
would
need
a
better
level
of
service
from
their
utility.
They
obviously
allow
for
faster
restoration
after
storms.
They
are
it's.
It's
imperative
that
again
that
we
protect
the
first
priority,
which
is
safety,
that's
for
employees
and
for
the
general
public
customers
included.
We
do
follow
the
industry.
Standards
of
health
with
respect
to
the
tree
bill
is
going
to
get
into
that.
Our
total
system
is.
E
We
have
a
little
over
twelve
thousand,
almost
thirteen
thousand
miles
of
overhead
line
on
a
distribution
system.
We
maintain
those
on
a
five-year
cycle.
That's
across
our
system
transmission,
a
little
less
than
four
thousand
overhead
line
miles
of
line,
and
so
those
are
the
bulk
carrying
part
of
our.
You
know:
delivery
system
and
they're
either
a
four
a
five
or
a
six
year
cycle,
depending
on
the
vegetation
and
where
it's
physically
located.
A
Danny
good
afternoon,
everyone
we
appreciate
time
on
the
agenda
to
talk
about
this.
What
we
consider
to
be
a
very
important
topic,
you
know
I'll
just
tell
you.
We
talk
about
tree
trimming
on
a
on
a
daily
basis
in
some
way
shape
or
form,
and
I
know
you
know
folks,
on
staff
at
the
city,
jason,
kronsberg
and
david
grant
and
clark.
A
They
do
the
same
thing,
and,
and
so
we
we
have
very
good
conversations
with
them
many
times
on
a
daily
basis,
and
two
of
our
foresters
are
in
the
room
with
us
here
today
too,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
different
discussion
topics
with
those
folks.
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
thought
this
slide
here.
This
is
a
plant
hardiness
zone
map
and
we
thought
this
might
be
important
to
show
you
and
mainly
from
the
aspect
of
there
are
approximately
300
growing
days
in
south
carolina.
A
They
are
licensed
in
state
of
south
carolina
licensed.
Foresters
are
certified
arborists,
which
is
an
additional
certification
that
they
have
earned,
in
addition
to
being
a
commercial
pesticide
applicator
as
well,
so
they
interact
with
our
crews
many
times
on
a
daily
basis.
They
certainly
are
brought
in
when
there's
a
large
leader
or
a
limb
that
we're
gonna
potentially
have
to
remove
from
a
tree
they're
brought
in
as
a
as
a
consult
to
make
sure
that's
the
right
thing
to
do.
A
They're
also
driving
the
process
making
sure
where
we're
gonna
be
trimming
and
I'll
show
you
a
little
bit
about
that
in
just
a
just
a
few
minutes.
I
want
to
transition
now
to
our
graph
that
we
developed
here.
This
is
a
safeguard
map
if
you
will,
and
we've
got
two
typical
type
structures
that
we
see
on
our
distribution
system.
A
So
these
are
typically
structured,
supporting
conductor,
energized
conductor
that
you'll
see
in
neighborhoods
one
on
the
left
is
a
it's
a
three-phase
configuration
on
right
as
a
single
phase,
there's
all
kind
of
different
brackets
and
things
of
that
nature
that
we
use
at
the
top
of
these
poles
to
actually
hold
the
conductor
and
to
insulate
it.
But
these
are
typically
what
you
see.
So
the
important
numbers
to
look
at
on
here
are
10
feet,
minimum
on
the
side,
20
feet
minimum
on
top
and
then
four
feet
down
below
the
neutral
conductor.
A
So
if
you
look
at
that
that
top
box
on
the
left
and
the
right
diagrams
here,
that's
the
thing
that
we're
most
concerned
about
here.
We
also
do
some
trimming
at
the
bottom
around
the
pole
itself
and
around
down
guys
as
well
as
if
you
look
on
the
right,
we've
got
a
squiggly
line
there.
That's
a
service
line,
that's
going
from
a
pole
with
a
transformer
to
an
individual
customer,
homeowner
or
business.
In
that
case,
we
trim
that
for
abrasion.
A
So
there
are
cases
when
a
large
limb
may
be
okay
to
be
less
than
10
feet,
but
the
flip
side
is
also
true
that
we
may
have
to
cut
more
than
10
feet
in
order
to
protect
the
health
of
the
tree,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
rot
and
decay
entering
the
limb
and
potentially
the
trunk
of
that
tree,
which
eventually
will
kill
it.
So
we
do
have
to
be
very
careful.
The
right
cut
is
very
important
in
these
cases,
so
the
specification
that
we
use
is
an
ansi
specification.
A
That's
ansi,
a300,
and
the
two
pictures
or
diagrams
on
the
left
are
typical
cuts,
and
I
know
that
you've
seen
this
throughout
the
city
and
other
municipalities,
one
on
the
left
is
a
v-cut.
The
one
in
the
middle
is
an
hellcat
and
that's
that's
pretty
much
bread
and
butter
in
terms
of
what
we
do
almost
every
single
day,
and
you
know
those
are
two
examples
there
and
they're
shown
in
in
the
example
as
they
should
be
with
the
right
tight
cuts.
Look
at
the
one
on
the
right.
A
This
is
this
is
the
structure
of
this
tree.
Is
that
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
others
here
on
the
left
and
shut,
and
so
what
we
get
from
the
specifications?
Ansi
a300
specification
is
what
to
do,
what
not
to
do
where
to
where
to
make
the
cut
and
we're
not
going
to
make
the
cut
so
there's
various
things.
A
I
know
david
durant
is
aware
of
this,
and
these
are
discussions
that
we
have
with
him,
as
well
as
other
foresters
and
arborists
and
other
municipalities
about
making
the
right
cut
at
the
right
place
and
sometimes
there's
a
situation
where
we
may
have
to
bring
david
in
or
others
in
to
say,
hey.
I
need
you
to
come
out
here
and
look
at
this
with
me
before
we
go
any
further.
A
A
It
is
a
situation
where
we
are
we
are.
We
are
stacked
and
then
that
distribution
line
and
the
the
neutral
that
accompanies
that
line,
it
just
tends
to
push
further
down,
and
so
it's
it's
that
bottom
clearance.
Let
me
if
I
can
back
up
here
to
this
diagram
here
and
I
I
don't
think
my
cursor
will
will
display
on
here
but
as
we're
presenting.
A
But
if
you
look
at
that
neutral
level
and
that
and
then
that
four
feet
below
you
can
see
that
that's
you
know
that
that
minimum
number
is
less
and
obviously
about
the
10
foot
of
20
feet
above
and
it
partly
is
due
to
the
fact
that
there
is
some
separation
between
the
energized
conductors
up
top
and
the
neutral
itself.
So
that
gives
you
some
of
that
distance.
So
if
you,
if
you
add
it
all
up,
it
does
come
up
to
be
about
10
feet
below
those
energized
conductors.
A
The
the
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
for
there
are
safety
and
making
sure
that
no
one
can
climb
and
get
to
that
level.
Even
though
the
neutral
is
a
grounded
conductor,
it
still
potentially
conducts
energy,
so
it
is
not
normally
energized
like
the
top
conductors
are.
However,
it
is
just
as
dangerous
and
can
conduct
energy
depending
on
what
is
happening
on
the
on
the
system.
C
A
C
B
Thank
you.
Well,
let
me
ask
a
question,
mr
turner.
I
guess
his
question
for
the
whole
team.
Obviously
charlestown
landon
is
a
prince,
there's
a
premium
location,
it's
the
birthplace
of
south
carolina
and
I'm
sure
there
may
be
other
premium
locations
and
I
believe
everybody's
tree
is
important
to
them
and
I
understand
why
you
got
to
do
it.
I
think
everybody
on
council
side
understands
why.
But
if
the
plan
is
to
do.
A
B
Is
there
a
way
when
we
come
up
when
you
all
and
we
because
we
all
in
this
together,
come
up
with
these
premium
locations.
As
I
say,
you
know,
riverland
drive
is
another
one,
they
say,
listen
guys
we
we're
going
to
be
in
here
five
more
years,
trimming
these
trees
and
when
we
trim
them.
It's
probably
going
to
look
like
this
diagram
right
here,
which
would,
I
think,
help
build
momentum
on
the.
B
And
particularly
since
you
have
a
cutting
schedule,
it's
based
in
years
that
this
we're
going
to
be
through.
I
don't
know
whatever
street
mary
murray
boulevard
and
we're
gonna
be.
The
cutting
plan
is
probably
gonna.
Look
like
this
either
we
can
get
some
money
and
get
it
underground
or
some
alternative
to
this,
because
we
all
want
our
power
restored.
Believe
me,
I,
mr
cass,
is
here
for
me
early
and
often
when
the
transform
goes
out
in
our
neighborhood
yeah.
B
So
are
there
any
situations
where
you
know
you're
going
to
be
going
through
a
historic
area
or
particularly
out
of
these
older
neighborhoods,
I'm
using
riverland
terrace
as
an
example,
but
there
are
others
out
there
that
you
say
we're
going
to
be
through
here
in
another
two
three
years
that
would
kind
of
help
us,
I
guess,
on
a
funding
priority
to
say
whatever
funding
we
got.
Maybe
we'll
turn
attention
to
those
high
priority
areas.
Let
me
put
them
like
that.
A
That's
that's
a
that's
a
really
good
point.
I'm
gonna
bring
danny
in
here
in
just
a
minute
to
to
talk
about
the
charlestown
landing
project
because
he's
had
the
most
recent
discussions
with
them,
and
I
mean
we
are.
We
are
looking
for
situations
like
this,
and
you
know
I.
This
is
what
I
would
I
would
say
about
from
a
planning
standpoint
and
councilman.
A
Now
is
not
the
time
to
talk
about
this
area
right
now,
the
time
to
talk
about
the
area
in
one
to
five
years
out
and
and
maybe
more
appropriately-
and
I
know
tracy's
on
the
call
here
and
she's
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
with
danny
and
me
about
this
about.
You
know
how
do
we,
how
do
we
lay
these
projects
out?
A
What's
the
best
most
orderly
way
to
do
that,
but
we
need
some
time
to
make
it
happen,
and
I
know
many
of
you
know
about
the
easement
situation
you
know
and
how
difficult
that
can
be.
So
we
need
a
little
bit
of
time
to
work
these
things
out
and
kind
of
break
them
down
into
you
know
manageable
chunks,
so
it
the
proper
planning
and-
and
I
think
the
you
know-
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction
with
the
city.
A
E
Yeah
thanks
bill
and
and
council
public
works
committee.
That's
a
great,
no
great
questions.
I
would.
I
would
tell
you
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
best
things
that
came
out
of
the
tree
agreement
was
the
ability
to
create
expedited
projects,
an
alternate
path
that
not
that
didn't
just
address
neighborhoods
but
addressed
projects
or
had
the
ability
to
address
projects
like
potentially
rival
and
terrorists
and
charlestown
landing.
E
E
B
E
Well
you
so
we
all
agree
that
the
property
is
pretty
well,
but
but
I
think
the
the
ability
of
the
what
I
would
describe
is
this
expedited
process.
This
has
now
been
set
up
and
is
is
kind
of
in
the
what
I
would
say
in
its
final
stages.
It
was
a
lot
of
work,
quite
frankly,
on
on
tracy
and
on
city
staff,
to
kind
of
get
things
moving
in
that
direction,
but
that
then
allows
for
the
ability
for
the
city
to
use
what's
already
money
that
has
been
set
aside.
E
So
there's
already
a
specific
carve
out
from
the
from
the
franchise
fee
that
goes
into
a
special
fund
and
those
dollars
are
then
they
can
be
used
for
relocation
or
they
can
be
used
for
you
know
for
underground
the
in
the
rebel
and
terrace
case.
It
probably
is
because
it's
distribution,
if
you
can
get
the
easements
and
it's
shorter
sections
and
customers
are
willing
to
you,
know
to
convert
over
yeah.
That's
a
solution.
That's
a
that's!
That's
the
solution!
E
You
know
for
the
individual
customers,
we'll
move
next
to
the
neighborhood
process,
we're
in
the
process
of
just
starting
wahoo
heights,
we'll
have
that
designed,
maybe
by
the
end
of
august,
but
these
other
projects
are
very
short
and
very
and
should
be,
you
know
very
linear
in
nature,
and
we
should
be
able
to
move
those
projects
much
more
forward.
I
think,
in
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
you
guys
can
kind
of
figure
out
the
symmetry
between
what
we
think
about
in
terms
of
service
level
and
I
think
in
terms
of
cost.
E
If
you
know
the
first
thing,
is
you
get
right
tree
in
the
right
place,
but
the?
But
the
thing
that
we're
dealing
with
now
for
the
most
part,
is
both
trees
and
utility
assets
are
in
the
same
place.
So
you
some
one's
got
to
move.
We
can't
meet
the
service
requirements
that
we're
mandated
by
the
state
if
the
tree's
there
so
one
has
to
move,
but
it's
a
cost
share
method.
E
I
think,
in
the
end
of
the
day
that
allows
for
us
to
either
reasonably
move,
whether
it
be
underground
or
whether
it
be
to
relocate.
So
I
mean
I
think,
we've
spent,
I
don't
know
across
the
state,
in
our
service
territory,
we're
at
60
to
70
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
city
because
we
started
out
basically
within
a
neighborhood
concept.
E
E
I
mean
there
can
be
there
can
be
other
adders,
I
mean
in
our
regulatory
model.
The
way
you
know
the
way
we're
set
up
is
we
essentially
council
where
we
we
match
and
then
what
happens?
Is
that
the
amount
that
we
match
in
that
process?
That
then
becomes?
You
know
that
essentially
goes
into
to
rate
base
for
recovery
from
from
all
customers,
not
just
customers
from
the
city
of
city
of
charleston.
E
That's
a
fairly,
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
robust,
in
other
words,
you're
going
to
get
a
million
dollars
worth
of
underground
and
you're
paying
half
a
million
for
it.
It's
a
50!
That's
a
dollar
for
dollar
match.
If,
if
we
thought
there
were
other
other
other
resources
which
could
then
create
offsets,
I
I
have
I'm
familiar
with.
E
E
E
A
It's
a
really
good
question
to
councilman
wearing
about
what
options
are
available
there.
A
lot
of
people
think
about
a
conversion
from
overhead
to
underground,
but
in
many
cases
you
know
our
relocation
works
as
well.
North
charleston
has
done
that
several
other
municipalities
have
done
that
to
move
maybe
like
a
line
off
of
main
street
in
north
charleston
case.
It
was
on
monday,
east
mountain.
You
have
any.
They
just
moved
into
back
lot.
It
worked
right
there.
A
So
at
the
start
of
this
year
we
met
with
them
to
go
over
this
project
that
you
see
on
the
screen
here.
If
a
public
workshop
is
desired,
then
we
will
certainly
have
that
or
multiple
ones
of
those.
Sometimes
we
can
combine
that
with
the
county
or
maybe
public
service
district,
that
sort
of
thing
as
we
approach
a
street
or
an
area
or
a
neighborhood.
A
A
A
The
one
on
the
on
the
right
is
a
contrast
of
that.
If
you
look
at
these
trees
this
this
is
the
typical
l-cut
that
you
see
on
the
on
the
left.
These
trees
will
not
get
any
better
than
what
you
see
right
now
and
as
they
as
that,
trunk
continues
to
grow
and
push
upward.
That
may
be
a
situation
where
additional
branches
have
to
come
off
off
the
bottom.
These
could
easily
have
been
shifted.
A
The
line
was
in
place
when
this
project
on
the
left
was
done
similar
to
the
one
on
the
right.
That
line
was
in
place
when
this
project
was
done,
and
you
could
see
these
the
trees
that
were
planted
on
the
one
on
the
right
is
planted,
or
they
are
rather
planted
away
from
the
line
they
can
grow
to
full
canopy
in
full
height
and
not
be
impeded
or
not
have
to
be
trimmed
at
all.
A
That
will
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
the
future
as
they
approach
the
conductor
of
the
one
on
the
right
shows,
obviously
a
palm
tree
in
some
major
distress.
This
was
on
barry
street,
where
we
took
this
this
particular
picture.
This
tree
is
obviously
dead.
There's
nothing
left
to
do,
but
to
remove
it,
but
by
eliminating
the
palms
that
are
very
close
to
high
voltage
power
lines.
We're
we're
gonna
have
to
avoid
these
situations.
A
A
That
is,
needs
to
be
a
high
priority
for
us
in
the
city
as
well.
Palm
trees
of
this
of
this
type
require
maintenance,
usually
twice
a
year
to
remove
old,
fronds
and
seed
heads
from
them
to
just
shape
them
up,
make
them
look
better
and
for
the
health
of
the
tree.
When
someone
is
in
that
area-
and
you
can
see
from
the
picture
on
the
right,
they
are
very
close
to
energized
power
lines.
A
Now,
usually,
a
palm
frond
is
not
going
to
contact
the
line
at
that
point,
but
they
have
a
saw.
They
have
a
stick
saw.
They
have
something
else
that
they're
using
and
that
salt
can
get
away
from
the
operator
that
causes
contact
that
potentially
causes
some
type
of
trauma
to
that
person
who
is
cutting
if
they're.
A
A
E
Up
yeah,
just
so
just
a
quick
summary,
and
I
think
we've
hit
most
of
these
points,
but
I'm
gonna
just
for
everybody's
benefit,
so
the
the
tree
agreement
that
exists
now
it
was
a
result
of
the
agreement
in
1989
being
out
of
date.
It
was
generally
administrative
in
nature,
but
it
was
designed
that
agreement
was
actually
designed.
You
know,
ironically
enough,
everybody
remembers,
1989
and
charleston
south
carolina.
E
Sir,
can
hugo
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
trees
that
were
left
to
be
dealt
with
after
after
hurricane
hugo,
but
it
was
mostly
designed
to
deal
with
new
construction
and
kind
of
the
recognition
of
grand
trees.
The
agreement
that's
in
place
today.
It
formalizes
processes
that,
for
the
most
part,
we've
already
put
in
place,
we
have
been
sharing
locations
for
trimming
well
in
advance,
or
at
least
a
year
in
advance
and
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
municipal
boundary
work
and
where
those
five
year
cycles
were
going
to
take
us.
E
It's
actually
strengthened
a
couple
things.
I
think
this
whole
concept
of
right
tree
right
place.
It
has
it
has
as
keenly
focused.
Both
parties
on
you
know
ensuring
that
we're
looking
for
a
permanent
solution,
because
most
of
the
stuff
we're
dealing
with,
are
probably
results
of
people
that
were
thinking
about
kind
of
long-term
health
of
the
tree
or
the
utility
system
and
how
it
was
going
to
operate,
and
I
want
to.
I
guess
I
want
to
say
it
now.
E
We've
already
talked
about
the
underground
in
committee
and
the
ability
for
that
work
to
be
very
meaningful
for
the
city
over
the
course
of
say
the
next
decade,
and
then
you
know
the
other
important
point
is
when
I
showed
that
hierarchy.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
people
understood
that
you
know
there
were
certain
things
where
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
flexibility,
so
we
can't
agree
to
something:
that's
that
conflicts
with
the
statutory
requirements
around
safety,
reliability
and
public
interest.
E
We
go
back
to
those
mandates
from
the
commission
bill
and
I
did
a
presentation
I
think
last.
I
think
it
was
in
sept
timber,
I
believe,
but
it
was
specifically
around
safeguarding
and
vegeta
vegetation
management
and
then
undergrounding
and
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
directives
that
really
came
out
of
that
it
wasn't
an
order,
but
it
was
a
comment
by
one
of
the
commissioners,
and
it
said
you
know
you
really
got
to
make
sure
that
you
coordinate
with
your
municipalities.
E
Don't
put
don't
allow
municipalities
put
trees
and
in
places
where
they're
going
to
conflict
utility
service,
and
they
didn't
mean
it
in
a
negative
way.
It
just
was
the
they
were
from
a
different
region
than
that
we're
all
from,
but
the
reality
is.
I
think
this
agreement
has
made
us
really
work
hard
on
that.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
in
a
better
place.
You
know,
10
years
from
now
between
the
relocations,
expedited
non-standard
service
fund
and
some
of
the
removals
and
the
replanting.
E
B
B
C
On
that
slide,
that
was
probably
the
last
on
the
next
line.
One
is
it's
the
right
tree
at
the
right
location
and
that's,
and
I
know
that
we've
got
a
potential
solution,
worked
out
on
that
strip
around
charlestown
landing
councilmember
wearing,
mr
chairman,
because
the
park
county
is
working
with
the
city
on
that
new
county
park
being
constructed
and
the
interest
way
to
that.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
working
in
concert
with
developing
that,
but
I
think
that
their
point
is
we
just
from
our
standpoint
from
a
city
standpoint.
H
C
It
and
our
constituents,
don't
don't
just
don't
like
how
the
trees
are
trimmed
and
we
explain
that
to
them
and
they
can
listen
in
on
this
call,
and
this
recording
understand
that
a
little
bit
better.
But
that's
we
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
we're
just
dealing
with
reality.
Unfortunately,
on
part
of
all
this
stuff,
so
we
just
got
to
keep
the
conversation
going
and
the
coordination
with
this
going
on.
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
bottom
line
with
this,
unless
I'm
just
missing
something.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
chairman
waring,
and
thank
you
to
danny
and
bill
and
tammy
for
meeting
me
and
councilman
griffin
and
several
others
out
at
the
jasper
downtown
on
friday
of
last
week
to
sort
of
have
a
little.
You
know,
site
visit
and
look
at
some
of
these
issues
in
action,
both
some
of
the
new
construction
issues
that
we
saw
at
the
jasper,
but
then
also
you
know
right
around
the
corner.
D
I
think
on
bar
street
some
of
the
issues
that
we,
you
know
more
typically
see
in
neighborhoods
in
my
districts
from
the
older
neighborhoods,
where
you've
got
trees
have
been
there
forever
and
the
the
the
cutting
that
goes
on.
That
way
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
multifaceted,
complex
challenge
and
it's
it's
it's
comforting
to
know
that
we're
addressing
these
issues
from
all
angles
so
like,
for
example,
I
mean
I
don't.
D
You
know
danny
touched
on
it
a
minute
ago
when
we
went
through
the
slides,
but
you
know
that
brand
new
construction
at
the
jasper
there
are
utility
and
tree
conflicts
that
were
installed
like
real
recently,
that's
unacceptable.
It
should
never
happen.
I
mean
that
that
is
going
to
present
a
problem
for
dominion
in
the
future.
With
respect
to
these
trees,
we
have
a
very
intense
detailed
development
review
process
through
the
trc,
as
we
were
all
sitting
around
on
the
street.
The
other
day
we
talked
about
adding
another
box
to
the
list.
D
Are
there
utility
conflicts?
I
mean
when
you're
at
the
trc,
you
look
at
okay,
here's,
the
buffer,
here's
where
the
trees
are
going?
Where
are
the
utility
lines
and
linking
that
up
and
having
that
time
out
moment
on
the
fly
during
the
development
review
process
is,
is
a
simple
way
we
can
try
and
avoid
some
of
these
issues
from
becoming
issues
on
the
front
end.
We've
already
got
issues
all
over
the
city.
D
The
last
thing
we
need
to
do
is
keep
piling
on
the
issues,
so
I
think
that's
great
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
the
older
neighborhoods,
I
mean
we
got
to
get
these
utility
lines
underground.
I
think
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
on
that
process.
We've
got
a
new
ordinance
in
place,
a
new
framework.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
a
wave.
A
magic
wand
and
everything
gets
underground
overnight,
but
it's
an
exciting
opportunity
and
we're
going
to
be
pushing
forward
with
it.
But
I
think
this
is
very
good.
D
D
D
Is
I
I
say
all
that
to
say
I
mean,
even
under
the
best
most
optimistic
set
of
circumstances
with
these
new
underground
protocols.
We
have
in
place
both
the
neighborhood-wide
approach
and
these
smaller
projects.
I
mean
we're
all
dead
before
everything
gets
buried
under
this
approach.
You
know
it's
just
the
reality
of
it
I
mean
there's
just
limited
funds,
limited
resources,
limited
capacity,
etc.
D
There
may
come
a
day.
I
hope
it's
not
for
a
long
time
when
a
lot
of
power
lines
and
a
lot
of
trees
get
leveled
in
this
city
and
that
could
potentially
be
an
opportunity
where
we
begin
to
address
these
issues
at
scale
with
recovery
funds
with
a
lot
of
resources,
and
one
thing
that
I
might
just
suggest-
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this-
the
other
day
is:
let's
have
a
plan
in
place.
D
So
if
and
when
that
happens,
we
can,
you
know,
really
achieve
a
lot
of
of
these
gains
in
this
area
quickly.
Now
bill
was
quick
to
point
out
that
you
know
after
a
storm,
people
are
not
as
much
concerned
with
underground
grounding
power
lines
and
tree
aesthetics
as
they
are
wanting
to
get
their
refrigerator
working
again.
You
know
and
they're
one.
You
know
power
to
come
on
quickly.
I
get
all
that,
but
to
the
extent
we
can,
you
know,
think
you
know
strategically
on
some
of
these
issues.
D
B
H
Yes,
sir,
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
the
members
of
dominion
and
city
staff
and
council
member
appel,
for
we
all
met
out
there
on
friday
morning
and
had
a
robust
discussion
and
had
a
nice
little
walk
through
yeah.
It's
it's
a
shame
over
there
at
the
jasper.
You
know,
you've
got
trees
that
have
been
planted
that
are
like
up
there
touching
the
lines
and
you
know
we
could
have,
or
they.
G
H
Have
you
know
did
underground
on
the
back
of
the
property
before
it
got
to
that
point,
and
you
know
we
got
to
all
be
smarter
about
that
and
we
have
to
work
together.
There's
no
way
that
we're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
can
control
the
narrative
and
there's
no
way
the
dominion
is
going
to
be
able
to
be
the
ones
that
control
the
narrative.
We've
got
to
make
sure
that
our
developers
and
our
our
property
owners
when
they
build
these
parcels
that
we
find
ways
to
make
them
want
to
underground
their
lines.
H
H
Last
friday.
All
of
that
to
be
being
said
that
you
know
the
only
way
that
we
convince
our
constituents
that
this
is
what's
best
is
for
us
to
have
these
open
dialogues
like
today
and
to
see
the
transparency
from
dominion.
You
know
that's
how
we
all
move
forward
together.
I
mean
we've
got
a
really
great
partnership
here
and
it's
only
going
to
get
better,
but
they
sent
me
home
with
a
lot
of
pamphlets.
H
I
did
some
light
reading
over
the
weekend
and
I'm
going
to
start
sticking
them
in
my
neighbor's
mailboxes,
so
that
they
can
get
some
reading
done
too
appreciate
everything
danny.
Thank
you
bill.
Thank
you,
tammy.
Thank
you
to
everybody.
Y'all
are
great
and
we're
very
lucky
to
have
you
here
in
charleston.
B
I
And
you
know
we're
gonna
put
another
plaque
out
soon
to
pug
ravenel.
He
and
mayor
reed
did
such
a
wonderful
thing
30
years
ago.
I
remember:
writing
them
a
check
to
plant
a
avenue
of
oaks
down
east
bay
street,
and
I
I
mean
in
concept
that
was
just
great,
but
don't
do
it
where
they're
overhead
power
lines,
because
eventually
it's
going
to
create
a
problem.
So
I
think
we've
learned
those
lessons
now
and
and
we're
working
together.
We
have
to
remain
vigilant,
but
I
add
my
thanks:
okay,
thanks.
B
Well,
of
course,
I
had
mine
as
well,
but
listen-
I
I
don't
think
after
this
good,
this
great
kumbaya
and
we
have
had
that
it
should
be
an
action
step
or
a
couple
of
action
steps
coming
out
of
this
one,
the
issue
that
councilman
mapel
said
we
should
have
a
plan
because
we
really
are
overdue
for
a
hurricane
and
when
that
happens,
you
know
what
will
that
look
like
or
who?
Who
should
pay?
For
that?
Does
he
engage
that
process?
Did
it
be
50
50.?
B
I
don't
know,
but
I
know
one
thing
we
shouldn't.
We
should
have
action
step
coming
out
of
this
one
and
then
the
second
thing
is
I
can
go
back
22
years
ago
and
believe
me,
we
were
on
thin
budgets
the
very
office
park,
I'm
sitting
in
right
now
we
did
underground
wiring,
my
father,
okay,
and
we
didn't
have
any
government
money
doing
this
stuff.
It
came
out
of
our
piggy
bank
and
it's
because
danny
fosberg
recommended
he
was
an
engineer
on
the
project
at
the
time
he
recommended
it.
B
At
the
time
we
did
a
subdivision
again
low
to
moderate
subdivision
no
government
subsidy.
Anything
put
in
the
road
water
and
all
of
that,
and
we
put
it
on,
we
put
it
on
the
ground.
What
happens
if
the
city
and
I'm
asking
you
this,
mr
cass,
is:
do
you
know
any
municipality
in
any
state
that
requires
that
you
do
a
development
of
certain
size
that
you
have
to
put
the
wiring
on
the
ground,
and
there
was
a
time
when,
when
subdivisions
the
city
would
pay
for
the
sidewalks.
Now
the
developer
pays
for
it.
E
E
We
we
on
occasion,
still
have
developers
that
will
opt
for
for
over.
For
some
overhead
you,
you
can
you're
in
the
position
to
matter
of
fact.
You
see
it
almost
all
the
time
and
you
know
more
along
the
peninsula,
but
most
of
those
cases
you
guys
described
at
the
jasper,
those
are
actually
developers
pay
a
significant
amount
of
money
to
underground
when
there's
conflict
for
strictly
aesthetic
purposes.
E
So
you
you
could,
in
that
discussion
around
the
technical
review
committee
and
in
an
ordinance
you
could
you
you
could
have
them,
provide
the
funding.
So
I
I
we
understand
that
it's
expensive,
but
it's
a
it,
is
a
permanent
solution.
It
doesn't
de-risk
everything
it
de-risks,
the
wind,
a
bit
on
a
peninsula
you're,
never
going
to
de-risk
a
water
event
by
putting
stuff
underground
right,
but
but
but
it,
but
in
areas
where
there's
high
ground
and
and
water
is
less
of
an
issue,
then
you
could
go
that
route.
B
Okay,
thanks,
listen,
I
appreciate
it.
We
are
all
into
this
one.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
time-
and
I
know
this
probably
didn't
get
a
word
in
sideways,
but
we
all
appreciate
her
services.
Please
believe
me
anyway.
I
think
we're
all
in
thanks
again.
I
know
there
will
be
another
time,
but
I
appreciate
you
getting
your
team
together
for
us,
mr
cassis,
so
we
can
address
all
sides
of
this
issue.
B
B
G
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
So
this
is
a
project
that
was
previously
recommended
for
allocation
by
the
works
utilities
committee
out
of
the
fy
2020
small
project
allocation.
It's
a
the
approach
on
this.
One
is
a
cost
share,
moa
with
the
town
of
james
island,
where
the
town
of
james
island
will
actually
they
have
acquired,
easement
and
completed
design
and
permitting
on
a
project
and
they're
looking
for
a
cost
share,
basically
for
construction.
G
B
G
A
G
First
item
basically
is
is
going
over
again
our
funding
situation.
We've
we've
previously
discussed
building
the
low
battery
seawall
in
five
phases,
we're
currently
looking
at
a
four
phase
approach
to
remind
everyone
and
ms
wharton's
presented
previously
on
this
in
this
committee,
but
to
remind
everyone.
The
city
has
generally
put
aside
about
5
million
dollars
per
year
for
the
low
battery
project.
G
We
are
looking,
of
course,
now
towards
the
design
work
for
phase
three,
which
is
next
next
year's
construction
under
the
current
pace
that
we're
going.
But
basically
we
will
have
expended
the
money
that
we've
set
aside
to
the
point
where
we'll
need
additional
money
in
order
to
build
phase
three
of
the
low
battery.
G
Again,
matt
it's
about
13
million
dollars,
councilman
shade!
I
mean
again,
that's
that's
a
rough
number.
I
mean
it's.
It's
that's
me
averaging
quite
a
few
and
rounding
quite
a
few
numbers,
but
that's
a
good
approximate
number.
Beyond
what
we've
set
aside,
we
will
need
a
total
of
about
30
million
dollars
more
than
we've
set
aside
for
the
to
complete
the
wall,
all
the
way
out,
not
in
addition
to
the
13
but
total
about
30
million
more
dollars.
So
we've
we've
looked
at
some
options.
I
think
what.
B
G
B
G
That's
probably
exactly
right:
constant
awareness
we've
been
seeing
roughly
10
percent
a
year.
Construction
price
increases
over
the
last
few
years
in
charleston,
and
certainly
we've
seen
a
number
of
projects
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
don't
get
caught
by
surprise
with
that
on
this
project
either.
As
we
project
out.
That's
honestly,
one
of
the
advantages
of
trying
to
accelerate
the
construction
pace
is,
you
may
end
up
saving
money,
because
the
cost
of
construction
increase
is
so
much
higher
than
the
kind
of
standard
inflation
right
right
great.
G
G
Yeah
so
wisconsin,
where
it
would
be,
it
would
be
basically
setting
aside
the
type
of
money
that
we've
currently
been
setting
aside,
but
using
it
as
bond
repayment,
rather
than
you
know,
pay
towards
the
future
or
and
having
to
delay
the
project
for
a
number
of
years
in
order
to
build
out
those
remaining
phases.
So.
G
We're
proposing
the
way
we're
looking
as
if
we
were
going
to
go
to
a
bond
approach,
it
makes
sense
to
try
to
finish
the
project
quickly,
so
we've
taken
the
last.
What
would
have
been
phases?
Three
four
and
five
and
modified
them
into
just
phases?
Three
and
four,
so
phase
three
ends
up
being
significantly
longer
than
the
previous
two
phases,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
that
more
money
is
needed
to
be
set
aside.
H
G
Said
that
we,
oh
so
I'm
sorry,
mr
chairman,
councilman
griffin,
so
there's
there's
two
items:
councilman
griffin,
the
first
one
is
the
discussion
on
what
we
would
do.
The
second
one
will
be
the
option
to
motion
to
approve
the
construction
contract
which
I'll
I'll
go
over.
I'm
sorry,
not
not
the
construction
contract
too
many
things,
I'm
talking
about
the
design,
yeah
the
design
contract
for
phase
three.
G
That's
right,
mr
chairman,
so
the
the
400
000
is
basically
the
design
of
those
1800
phases.
We
are
800
linear,
foot,
phase
3..
It
also
includes
the
we
have
to
do
some,
like
basically
signage
work
and
and
historical
markers
and
things
as
part
of
our
shippo
permit
for
the
project
that's
included
in
there.
G
Then
there's
also
what
would
be
called
like
an
early
design
component
for
the
parklip
that
will
be
on
the
intersection
of
king
street
and
the
low
battery
since
that'll
be
sort
of
one
of
the
key
portions
of
the
overall
project
that
won't
be
built
until
phase
four,
but
we're
going
to
start
designing
it
now.
So
we
have
a
whole
year
of
chance
to
do
citizen
outreach
and
work
through
the
drc
process
and
everything
else
with
that.
H
G
G
Correct,
so
all
I'm
all
I'm
doing
today
is
asking
for
the
funding
for
the
design
work,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
committee
understands
if
we
decided
that
we
were
not
going
to
assign
that
extra
13
million
there
would
be
some
minor
rework
to
shrink
the
next
phase
of
the
project
a
little
bit
shorter.
It
wouldn't
cost
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that,
but
there'd
be
a
little
bit
of
expense
to
basically
revise
those
drawings
to
be
a
much
shorter
phase.
B
I
G
B
B
I
You
know
anywhere
else
that
we
can
and,
for
example,
we
had
a
meeting
on
the
at
the
project
this
morning
with
congresswoman
woman
mace,
to
ask
for
her
assistance
to
help
us
find
some
federal
funding
for
the
rest
of
this
project.
She
she
serves
on
an
infrastructure
type
committee
up
there
and
she
agreed
to
help
us
look
for
it.
So
anyway,
we're
still
asking
for
other
people
to
help,
even
though
we
we
hope
to
have
a
a
plan.
That'll
work,
regardless.
B
D
I'll
just
say
that
I
mean
the
work
that's
been
done
out
there.
So
far
is
outstanding.
I
mean
if
you
haven't
been
down
there
to
the
battery.
I
mean
it
really
is
remarkable
and
you
know,
while
I'm
editorializing
here
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
shame
that
we
have
to
kind
of
scrape
and
scrap
you
know
hospitality
and
accommodation.
I
mean
this
is
a
signature
premier
part
of
south
carolina,
and
this
is
a
major
major
part
of
the
state
and
what
makes
this
city
special
and
this
gets
to
an
issue.
D
That's
you
know
much
bigger
than
5
30
on
a
public
works
utilities.
Committee
meeting,
but
I
mean
we
just
don't
have
that
many
cards
to
play
when
it
comes
to
funding
major
infrastructure
projects
around
here,
so
we
need,
and
frankly
we
deserve
some
help
from
the
federal
government
and
the
state
government
when
it
comes
to
this.
This
is
big
time
stuff,
and
I
say
that
as
somebody
who
doesn't
represent
this
area,
but
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
We
all
have
a
piece
of
of
the
battery.
D
C
C
This
is
one
of
the
great
amenities
and
when
you,
when
you
travel
out
there,
to
look
at
the
work,
that's
being
done
by
water,
and
I
try
to
go
out
there
as
much
as
I
off
as
I
can
by
boat
and
just
see
the
difference
in
what
they
have
accomplished
so
far,
and
then
you
look
down
a
ways
to
the
deterioration
from
the
water
side
of.
What's
what
would
happen
if
we
didn't
do
this,
you
know
it's
just.
C
This
is
incredible
opportunities
that
we
have
to
preserve
this,
this
this
wall,
and
it's
going
to
be
getting
better.
I
mean
it's
just
it's
not
just
a
preservation
project,
it's
an
improvement
project
for
all
of
us,
so
a
lot
a
lot
of
coordination
with
this
a
lot
of
help
from
everybody,
and
I
think
that
we're
we'll
we'll
tap
it
into
every
possible
source
of
income
that
we
can
and
there's
more
to
get
out
there
all
this
thing
so
as
well.
I
can
tell.
B
You
every
year,
with
the
exception
of
I
think,
last
year,
our
state
budget.
I
don't
think
we
put
any
money
inside
but
nine
out
of
my
ten
years
on
council
almost,
I
voted
for
we
chip
and
put
monies
away
from
those
same
pockets
and
it
proved
this
benefit.
I
missed
me,
I'm
sorry,
you
had
your
hand
up
on
it.
Well,.
I
I'm
sure
one
more
comment
when
I
was
leaving
that
meeting
with
our
congresswoman
down
there.
I
was
walking
back
to
my
car
and
there
was
this
gentleman
fishing
off
off
the
low
battery
and
I
said
you're
catching
anything
and
he
said
mayor,
I
caught
two
little
croaker
and
I
threw
him
back,
but
you
know
what
I'm
really
catching
here
is
peace
of.
B
Mind
well,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
two
high
points
for
myself
at
that
batteries.
Man
effect
when
I
was
in
fourth
grade.
I
was
nine
years
old.
I
was
enamored
by
my
dad.
Just
carry
us
on
sundays,
for
ride
get
ice
cream
cones
anyway,
I
was
enamored
as
a
kid
with
those
cannons
and
the
cannonballs,
and
so
I
asked
my
mom:
where
did
they
shoot
the
cannibal?
She
said?
Well,
we
shot
they
shot
it
over
there
and
thought
something
started
to
walk.
B
I
said
no
mommy
the
north
started
the
war
and
she
said
no
son,
the
soldiers
confederate
soldiers
put
the
cannonballs
in
the
cannon
shot
it
out
there
to
the
battery
she
point
and
not
the
battery.
I
mean
pointed
out
to
fought
something
and
I
insisted
no,
the
north
started
the
one
she
said
no,
and
she
repeated
her
point.
I
said
mommy.
I
got
that
question
right.
It
was
the
war
of
northern
aggression.
That
was
enough.
That
was
an
article.
B
And
that's
what
my
mom
did
she
laughed
and
just
kind
of
you
know.
I
guess
held
me
to
her
chest
and
said
well,
son
in
time
you
learn
differently.
You
know
and
then
the
next
high
point
I
proposed
to
my
wife
at
that
bandstand
right
there
so
45
years,
one
of
the
best
investments
and
proposals
I've
ever
made
in
my
life
was
right
there
at
the
advanced
and
so
yeah
that
battery,
I
think
more
locals
or
just
as
many
locals
enjoy
that
battery
as
any
tourists
that
come
through.
B
B
G
G
It
also
includes
completing
the
contract
document
package
so
that
we
can
actually
bid
the
project
and
the
bid
phase
support
work
associated
with
going
to
bid
on
this
project.
There
is
one
component
of
the
design
work,
that's
just
an
optional
task,
it's
in
time
and
expense,
we'll
use
it.
If
we
need
it.
If
we
don't,
we
won't
it's
basically
to
close
cannon
street.
Do
the
permanent
closed
cannon
street
if
we're
unsuccessful
and
negotiate
with
property
owners
in
order
to
basically
avoid
impacting
cannon
street,
but
that
work
is
in
there
as
well
due.
G
So
we
do
have
the
presentation
that
ms
wharton
had
done.
That
shows
where
we
are.
The
next
step
will
be
for
the
unallocated
fund,
money
right
right,
come
back
and
look
at
that,
so
the
this
money
was
already
within
the
allocated
money.
In
that
presentation
right,
I
think
we're
proposing
to
come
to
the
budget
ad
hoc
committee,
with
the
discussion
for
the
drainage
fund,
so
that'll
be
one.