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City of Charleston Committee on Public Works and Utilities 9/8/2020
A
C
E
D
Dear
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
for
this
day
for
all
the
many
blessings
that
you
bestowed
upon
us.
We
ask
first
and
foremost
that
you
keep
us
ever
mindful
of
of
those
in
need,
and
in
this
time
lord,
we
continue
to
push
for
resolutions
and
finding
a
vaccine
and
making
our
country
whole
again
and
healthy
again
and
at
the
same
time,
lord.
We
continue
to
deal
with
social
inequity
and
how
we
can
improve
relations
across
our
nation
through
all
of
our
people.
D
D
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G
C
G
So
the
second.
The
second
item
is
a
sidewalk
project
on
camp
road.
The
majority
of
the
sidewalk
is
on
camp
road
and
then
part
of
it
goes
on
to
riverland
drive,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
typical
thing
that
the
dot
requests
the
city
to
take
over
maintenance
of
that
infrastructure,
that's
being
installed
normally
by
the
the
county
through
the
process
that
requires
city
city
maintenance
in
return
for
scdot
encroachment
permitting.
C
D
G
Yes,
this
one,
this
one
I
am
familiar
with
this-
is
basically
the
market
street
drainage
improvement
project.
So
the
work
along
market
street
that
falls
in
one
of
the
intersections,
the
intersecting
dot
streets,
basically
dot
again,
will
request
us
because
they're
non-standard
dot
items
for
this
to
take
over
maintenance.
C
C
H
I
apologize,
I
was
on
the
phone
with
a
citizen
and
couldn't
get
off.
So
that's,
okay!
That's
okay!
Matt,
appreciate
you
picking
up
those
ones
for
me
for
that
woodbury
park.
This
is
a
portion
of
a
street
in
the
drainage
agents,
as
shown
on
the
flat
that
we
sent
with
the
project
and
that's
17
lots,
and
in
this
subdivision
the
street
street
sidewalks
and
street
trees
have
been
bonded.
So
everything
else
has
been
constructed
and
accepted,
but
we
will
be
bonding
those
two
items
and
the
con.
I
I
If
you're
familiar
with
that
area
off
beast
ferry
road
yeah,
it's
a
good
situation
for
the
city;
essentially
they
had,
they
got
the
developer,
got
wetlands
permits
or
permits
to
fill
in
wetlands
on
their
tract,
and
it
leaves
sort
of
a
you
know,
a
wetland
area
right,
dividing
the
property
into
two
which
this
subdivision
will
will
accomplish
or
divide
the
property
to
two.
The
developer
is
giving
the
city
a
drainage
easement,
which
is
really
typically,
we
take
a
drainage
easement
for
pipes
or
a
ditch
or
something.
I
This
is
a
drainage
easement
to
maintain
it
as
the
natural
area
dhec
requires
that
anyway,
and
to
the
extent
we
wanted,
if
we
ever
wanted
or
tried
to
use
it
for
any
other
purpose,
and
I'm
not
saying
we
should,
we
would
have
to
go
to
dhec
to
do
whatever
you
know,
construction
or
whatever
you
wanted
to
do
within
that
wetland
area,
but
it
drains
the
property
already
drains
the
property
to
the
north.
It
helps
the
city
ensure
that
it
will
stay
in
its
natural
condition.
I
We
typically
do
exclusive
storm
water
easements.
Here,
it's
not
exclusive,
because
it's
not
exclusive
essentially
means
that
nobody
else
can
tap
into
our
pipe
without
our
permission
here,
there's
already
people
draining
through
that
area.
So
it's
not.
You
know
our
exclusive
right
to
drain
because
other
people
are
already
draining
through.
I
If
anybody
else
wanted
to
drain
into
that
area,
they
would
have
to
go
through
the
same
process
with
dhec.
You
know
it's
very
unlikely.
You
could
build
a
pipe
into
that
area
or
anything
like
that,
but
it'll
give
it'll
help
out
in
the
my
understanding
is
for
matt
will
help
out
and
kenzie
it'll
it'll
help
out
in
that
that
basin.
H
D
C
I
Yes,
sir,
so
this
would
it's
a
subdivision
into
four
lots.
I
I
would
have
to
ask
kinsey,
because
I
don't
know
if
it
was
previously
approved.
I
think
I
think
a
division
into
four
lots
would
have
had
to
go
through
trc
to
get
preliminary
plat
approval
anyway.
All
this
final
plot
reflects
is
that
they've
done
what
they
what
they
said.
They
were
going
to
do
in
the
in
the
trc
approved
documents,
and
then
we
would
take
over
maintenance
like
we
would
with
any
road.
I
I
D
J
C
I
D
C
A
C
H
Exceptional
than
the
norm,
no,
so
these
are,
we
just
got
some
fences
and
an
irrigation
and
trying
to
see
if
we
had
and
a
driveway
border,
but
other
than
that.
These
are
standard.
They've
been
reviewed
by
our
inspectors
in
the
field
and
we're
recommending
for
approval
of
the
encroachments
and
just
to
let
the
committee
know,
we've
had
a
couple
of
instances
where
we've
been
working
with
stormwater
maintenance.
H
If
fences
are
a
lot
of
times,
people
are
not
aware
of
the
ease
that
they
put
these
fences
in
and
if
in
any
way
prohibits
or
interferes
with
stormwater
maintenance,
we
will
send
a
letter
to
them
and
make
them
really
remove
the
fence,
so
we
can
get
there.
So
we
we're
working
really
well
with
stormwater
on
that.
C
G
You're
a
mute,
mr
yes
yeah!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
yeah.
So
item
h1.
This
is
for
the
barbary
woodstream
project.
It's
the
approval
to
accept
so
we
previously
approved
council
previously
approved
us
to
apply.
This
is
the
approval
to
actually
accept
the
funding
for
the
national
fish
and
wildlife
foundation,
the
nif
with
grant
for
johns
allen
restoration
plan
to
improve
flood
resiliency.
G
Basically,
this
is
looking
at
a
plan
to
figure
out
where
we
have
existing
natural
drainage
or
modified
natural
drainage
systems
on
john's
island
that
are
still
functioning
to
be
preserved
and
where
we
have
systems
that
have
been
impacted
that
are
targets
for
restoration,
similar
to
what
we're
doing
in
barbary
woods.
This
grant
provides
a
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
of
federal
funds
and
another
city
match
of
117
500
from
the
drainage
fund.
In
the
barber
woods
project.
C
H
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
This
is
a
the
amendment
with
jmt
johnson
miranda
thompson
in
order
to
move
to
the
next
stage
of
the
progress
project
on
the
king,
yuji
drainage
improvement.
So
the
the
first
stage
was
the
design
construction
documents
for
the
surface
level
improvements
the
drainage
collection
at
the
intersection,
which
will
be
hopefully
moving
to
construction.
This
fall,
which
we'll
talk
about
in
the
project
updates,
and
then
we
designed
30,
complete
preliminary
engineering
design
for
some
different
pump
station
options
and
kind
of
picked
our
optimum
pump
station
approach.
G
This
amendment
now
is
to
take
the
30
pump
station
and
do
the
basically
final
design
permitting
construction
plans
bid
documents.
It
also
includes
a
little
bit
of
additional
funding
for
the
surface
construction
based
on
some
environmental
impacts.
We
found
from
the
gas
stations
in
the
area,
so
this
is
five
hundred
eighty
two
thousand
nine
hundred
seventy
dollars
and
forty
seven
cents.
C
Mitchell
and
councilmember
lewis
and
councilmember
sacrament,
because
that's
all
the
area
they
represented
or
transverse,
that
that
fire
station
on
hugey
street
that
the
mayor
spoke
about
during
real
estate.
That's
the
only
fire
station
that
I
know
that
actually
has
a
john
boat
to
help
ferry
people
when
they
get
flooded
at
an
intersection.
So
that's
standard
equipment
good
at
huge
street
fire
station
because
of
this
intersection
that
we
on
the
cusp
of
fixing
here
so
solely
needed,
probably
who's.
C
E
C
G
Yes,
this
is
looking
at
basically
some
options
for
improvement
on
the
existing
outfall,
the
options
to
add
a
second
outfall
and
then
some
considerations
for
capacity
improvements
along
the
greenway,
some
storage
improvements
and
some
of
the
road
right-of-ways,
and
then
some
conveyance
improvements
across
folly,
road
and
trying
to
move
some
other
water
outside
of
the
drainage
basin.
So
it's
a
pretty
pretty
thorough
conceptual
look
in
this
area
because
of
how
complex
it
is.
It's
a
smaller
area,
but
a
very
complex
drainage
situation.
I
think
we've
got
a
really
good
approach.
C
K
Thank
you,
chairman
waring.
I
I
just
can't
say
how
excited
I
am
about
this
project.
This
is
something
that's
been
a
long
time
in
the
making.
The
last
time
this
area
was
studied
was
1984.
That
was
the
year.
I
was
born,
I'm
36
now
and
on
city
council,
and
it's
been
a
long
time
coming,
but
but
these
are
neighborhoods
that
that
deal
with
some
very
significant
flooding
issues:
old
windermere,
south
windermere,
even
parts
of
old
windermere
cross
17
even
into
the
crescent.
K
This
is
going
to
be
such
a
great
first
step
and
what
I
hope
to
be
a
a
series
of
of
lasting,
big
time
improvements
for
this
district,
and
I'm
just
so
happy
that
we
could
have
thomas
and
hutton
work
with
us
on
this.
You
know
they
know
this
area
inside
and
out
and
very
excited
to
get
the
process
started.
So
thanks
for
everybody
that
brought
us
to
this
point,.
C
G
Thank
you
sherman,
this
one's
a
little
more
unusual.
We
had
a
memo
included
in
the
console
package
for
it,
but
just
briefly,
we
had
vibration
monitoring
as
a
service
provided
as
part
of
our
work
on
the
low
battery
seawall.
Due
to
the
you
know,
close
line
historic
structures
to
the
location
of
the
work.
G
Basically,
the
project
has
we
have
not
had
any
issues
with
vibration.
We've
actually
had
incredibly
low
vibration
numbers.
It's
been
very
successful
for
the
approaches
that
gmt
put
together
for
the
work
in
the
gulf
stream
is
put
in
in
construction,
but
we
have
had
kind
of
a
an
ongoing
amount
of
very
high
levels
of
concern
from
a
lot
of
the
residents
and
property
owners
in
the
area.
So
we're
going
to
extend
we're
proposing
to
extend
how
much
vibration
monitoring
we're
doing
through
the
end
of
the
contract.
G
That
would
push
what
was
previously
a
purchase
order
for
just
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
into
a
scale
that
takes
us
into
needing
a
contract
for
forty
two
thousand
dollars.
So
it's
it's
not
an
increase
of
42,
it's
just
an
increase
up
to
42,
but
that
does
push
us
into
procurement
threshold
coming
to
council
for
a
contract.
G
C
C
G
G
So
this
is,
this
is
charleston
county
in
the
sense
of
the
geographic
area
rather
than
the
governmental
authority,
but
the
previously
the
city
of
charleston
adopted
the
updated
fema
flood
maps,
the
flood
insurance
rate
maps
for
berkeley
county,
the
sections
of
the
city
of
berkeley
county.
This
would
now
be
the
sections
of
the
city
that
are
within
charleston
county.
We've,
obviously
been
waiting
for
these
maps
for
for
quite
some
time
they
finished
going
through
the
the
challenges
and
the
scientific
review
process.
They
are
ready
for
adoption.
G
So,
no
matter
when
we
adopt
them
kind
of
prior
to
that
date,
they
would
become
effective
on
the
29th
and
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
is
prevent
different
municipalities
and
the
county
from
kind
of
all
having
different
start
dates
for
the
map,
so
there's
kind
of
one
one
even
start
date
for
everything
within
the
within
the
county.
So
we
will
be,
we
will
be
bringing
these
with
the
ordinance
to
public
rich
utilities
of
the
next
likely.
G
There
is
a
question
of
how
we
treat
building
permits
and
some
other
options
that
we
just
wanted
to
have
a
brief
discussion
with
you
on.
If
there
are
any
questions
I
mean
our
our
recommendation
is
to
basically
use
the
maps
that
are
currently
approved
so
that,
if
you're
applying
for
a
building
permit,
you
apply
based
on
whatever
your
currently
approved
maps
are,
so
we
would
have
the
same
transition
date
for
building
permit
applications
as
the
effective
date
of
the
maps.
G
To
avoid
any
confusion
this-
and
this
has
come
up
because
we've
had
some
builders
ask:
can
they
apply
now
for
for
future
maps
and
we've
we've
kind
of
talked
with
the
county
about
this
and
and
looked
at
our
own
way.
We've
done
this
in
the
past
and
we
still
think
it's
the
best
option
to
not
create
kind
of
a
paperwork
nightmare
for
the
applicants
and
for
the
reviewers
and
say
that
we're
all
sticking
with
the
same
hard
adoption
date
of
january
29th.
G
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
council
had
any
input
on
that
and
then
separately.
We've
also
been
looking
at
some
other
potential
ordinance
changes
as
these
maps
and
mr
joel
goes
on
as
well.
If
there's,
if
there's
questions
this
one
we're
going
to
get
into
some
more
detail
at
the
next
public
works
utilities,
we
always
want
to
kind
of
give
you
a
chance
to
think
about
this
and
talk
to
us.
If
you
have
questions
the
the
flood
maps
are
basically
changing.
G
Some
of
the
way
zones
are
done
in
charleston
county
in
the
city
of
charleston
components,
so
we're
transitioning
from
kind
of
what's
a
traditional
velocity
zone
into
a
a
different
type
of
of
a
coastal
a
zone
basically
which
have
similar
requirements.
There
is
an
opportunity
for
additional
flood
protection
by
changing
an
ordinance
to
basically
retain
those
velocity
zone.
Requirements
for
properties
that
will
no
longer
be
in
velocity
zones
will
be
in
this
new
coastal
a
zone
basically
where
there
still
could
be
wave
action
impacting
the
properties.
G
Those
changes
are
also
something
that's
covered
by
the
community
rating
system
and
are
eligible
for
a
number
of
additional
points.
Of
course,
our
community
rating
systems
visit
is
in
december
this
year.
So
it's
something
we
need
to
figure
out.
If
we
wanted
to
take
action
on
relatively
quickly,
we
will
be
bringing
you
some
more
documents
and
presentation
information
to
try
to
explain
this
a
little
more
clearly
at
the
next
public
works
utilities
meeting,
but
we
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
a
heads
up.
G
That
was
something
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
as
well
as
see
if
there
were
any
questions
with
that
permit
application
adoption
date.
So
just
just
trying
to
get
this
on
the
radar
that
we've
got
flood
maps
coming,
which
you
know,
brings
a
couple
of
other
items
behind
it
and
we'll
we'll
be
following
up
with
all
of
you.
After
after
this
meeting,
but
just
see,
if
you
have
any
initial
questions
or
things,
you
want
us
to
cover.
E
E
G
The
larger
overall
chance
to
appeal
and
and
kind
of
make
make
statements
that's
passed.
There
were
only
a
couple
of
appeals
in
the
county.
I
think
they
were
down
in
the
kia
area
and
they've
kind
of
been
reviewed
by
the
scientific
review
panel.
They
have
and
they
feel
comfortable
the
maps
there
still
is
the
process
for,
and
mr
jelica
can
jump
in
if
he
needs
to,
but
for
letters
of
map,
adjustment
and
modifications
based
on
basically
people
providing
additional
information
research
for
their
properties.
G
C
C
G
G
G
That's
the
surface
improvements.
Obviously
the
central
park
drainage
we're
looking
to
schedule
some
smaller
neighborhood
discussions.
We've
been
working
on
those
dates
with
the
county.
We
think
we
have
a
path
for
moving
forward
with
the
county
on
kind
of
funding
different
project
areas.
The
city
looks
like
we'll
be
receiving
along
with
dot
the
ctc
funding.
That's
the
gas
tax
that
kind
of
gets
pushed
back
to
the
counties
for
allocation
to
basically
fund
some
of
the
downstream
improvements
in
area.
Four.
G
Accounts
members
for
that
for
that
work,
cooper,
jackson,
drange,
evaluation,
we're
actually
underway
right
now
on
about
ten
thousand
feet
of
drainage,
pipe
rehabilitation
which
will
be
continuing
throughout
this
month.
So
I
think
that's
gonna
show
some
we're
already
finding
a
number
of
areas
that
that'll
show
some
real
improvement
for
short-term
drainage
in
the
basin.
G
It
certainly
won't
fix
the
issues
we're
seeing
out
there,
but
I
think
it's
it's
worth
mentioning
and
getting
out
there,
we've
put
some
flyers
out
and
reached
out
to
the
neighborhoods
about
it
as
well:
church
creek,
the
flood
storage
projects.
The
selection
committee
bet
recommended
two
top
the
two
top
firms
for
interviews
and
we'll
be
interviewing
those
firms
this
week,
looking
to
move
forward
to
design
work
on
that
section
of
the
nif
with
grant
applications
or
the
nif
of
grant
awards
as
well
and
then
dupont,
wapu
we've.
G
I
think
we
finalized
our
path
forward
with
the
county
on
that
one.
We've
negotiated
out
a
scope
with
aecom
for
the
first
four
project
areas
to
get
through
design
all
the
way
to
construction
documents
on
that,
and
now
we're
going
back
and
forth
with
the
county
and
legal
finalizing
the
iga
in
scope.
So
we
can
bring
those
to
public
works
utilities
for
approval.
This
fall
as
well.
C
Mr
fountain,
on
that
one
I
I've
had
a
couple
of
people
in
that
doo-wop
area
that,
since
we
had
the
meeting
with
the
county,
that
you
were
kind
enough
to
come
to
that's
willing
to
give
easements.
How
do
we
coordinate
those
people
who
are
willing
to
give
up
easements
to
effectuate
drainage
improvements.
G
So
that's
that's
one
good
thing:
we've
been
working
on
collaboratively
both
in
actually
in
central
park
and
in
dupont,
wapu
with
the
county
that
the
counties
basically
volunteered
to
have
its
survey
crew.
Do
a
lot
of
the
plat
and
survey
work
to
obtain
those
easements.
Since
these
are
kind
of
collaborative
project
areas,.
C
G
G
G
So
the
only
item
we
had
left
was
just
the
floodplain
project
updates
which
really
the
major
update
this
time.
The
most
significant
update,
I
should
say,
was
the
new
charleston
county
flood
maps.
If
we
were
to
have
any
questions
or
discussions
on
that,
we
do
have
continuing
progress
on
the
grants.
We
did
talk
about
the
last
meeting,
so
there's
not
anything
significant.
Since
the
last
meeting.
C
G
Yeah,
so
the
the
draft
maps
are
on
our
website
now
they're
available
on
the
city
website
and
the
county
has
a
copy
on
their
website.
So
if
you
go
to
the
city's
gis
page,
there's
a
draft
draft
fema
flood
maps-
and
I
will
say
the
mid-
these
maps
are
a
little
bit
interesting
and
that
they
were
they
were
created
with
data,
that
is
that
basically
stopped
before
the
2015
storms,
because
of
kind
of
how
long
the
data
takes
to
build
through
the
maps
in
the
federal
system.
G
So
most
of
the
and
whether
or
not
this
is
because
of
being
short
of
the
2015
storms.
I
don't
know
we
won't
know
till
the
next.
The
next
map
update,
but
there
are
definitely
more
areas
of
the
city
that
are
decreasing
in
elevation
than
any
anything
else.
There
are
very
few
areas
that
would
be
increasing
their
flood
elevations
most
areas
are
actually
showing
a
decrease
in
flood
elevation.
G
So
it's
it's
one
of
these.
These
interesting
challenges
that
it's
it's
in
the
short
run.
It
may
be
good
for
some
residents
that
they
may
see
cheaper
flood
insurance.
They
may
see
themselves
come
out
of
a
flood
plain
depending
where
their
elevations
are.
In
the
long
run,
they
run
a
risk
that,
if
fema
updates
the
maps
in
10
years
and
decides
that
they
were
actually
underestimating
floodplain
levels,
that
now
they
need
to
actually
bring
them
back
up
or
raise
them
up
over
where
they
were.
G
So
I
think
it
really
helps
us
to
have
past
that
two
foot
for
new
construction,
so
you
don't
buy
a
new
house
and
basically
immediately
get
put
into
being
an
issue
or
you're
under
the
under
the
flood
plain
again
in
10
years.
I
think
I
think,
we're
in
a
good
spot
as
a
city
and
where
we've
gone
with
that.
C
F
Good
afternoon
I
I
really
don't
have
any
further
updates,
as
as
matt
mentioned,
the
the
big
thing
that
we
are
paying
attention
to
right
now
are
the
maps
that
will
become
effective
in
january
and,
as
matt
said,
we'll
have
a
more
detailed
update
for
you
at
most
likely.
The
next
public
works
and
utilities
committee
meeting
in
a
couple
weeks.
C
C
D
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
I
just
had
a
question
for
matt
about
how
a
advisory
authority
like
this
interplays
with
the
aecom
matrix
and
ranking
system
that
we're
working
on
I
mean
I
thought
the
city's
policy
was
trying
to
de-politicize
these
funding
decisions
and
infrastructure
decisions
by
really
evaluating
projects
based
on
their
merit.
Because
I
can
promise
you
you
get
a
bunch
of
people
from
my
district
in
a
room,
you
know
or
anybody
else's
district
in
a
room.
K
They're
gonna,
you
know,
there's
a
role
for
the
public,
but
we
gotta
make
sure
we're
making
decisions
based
upon
the
science
and
making
sure
that
our
towers
are
used
most
efficiently.
You
know
I
just
just
had
some
questions
about
that,
because
you
know,
church
creek
obviously
has
got
its
challenges,
but
the
whole
city's
got
its
challenges
and
I
just
want
to
know
sort
of
from
that.
What
his
thoughts
are
on.
You
know
sort
of
the
best
way
to
go
about
making
these
decisions.
B
Yeah
I
I
thought
I
would
go
ahead
and
respond
to
that-
that
question
council,
member
appel
and
you
had
not
been
elected
yet
when
we
passed
the
tif
district
for
this
church,
creek
drainage
area
and
but
for
that
specific
funding
source
which
is
dedicated
to
the
basin
and
only
for
the
basin.
In
other
words,
if
we
get
a
dollar
in
that
tif
district,
we
can't
spend
it
for
a
of
a
project
downtown
on
james
island
or
somewhere
else.
It's
got
to
be
spent
in
that
district.
B
It's
the
only
tiff
district
by
the
way
in
the
state
of
south
carolina,
that's
dedicated
to
drainage
and
stormwater
improvements.
So
so
we
felt
like
this
was
a
little
different.
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
I
think
the
expertise
that
we've
mandated
to
be
a
part
of
this
authority
will
be
thoughtful
enough
to
be
to
to
to
recommend
good
priorities
to
council
and
to
the
stormwater
department,
but
again
because
they
have
that
specific
pot
of
money.
That's
only
for
that
area.
We
thought
this
was
appropriate.
G
That
will
give
us
an
objective
ranking
in
addition
to
the
the
kind
of
recommendations
from
the
the
authority
within
the
basin,
because
that
you
know
what
that
is,
we
do
look
for
sources
of
you
know
outside
suggestions
on
projects
as
well
as
coming
up
with
our
own
conceptual
project
plans.
So
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
have
kind
of
a
twofold
look
there.
By
having
the
consistency
of
the
aecom
tool,
but
also
kind
of
a
group.
G
That's
that's
located
within
the
base
and
helping
come
up
with
project
concepts,
especially
as
we
we
get
into
working
with
some
of
the
landowners
for
dedicating
property,
and
things
are
a
little
bit
harder
to
score
in
a
in
a
conceptual
scoring
tool.
Without
that
input
from
the
property
owners
and
without
some
of
the
buy-in
from
the
neighboring
landowners,
mr
chairman.
C
D
D
D
So
I
I
look
forward
to
it
and
I
thought
we
got
some
really
valuable
feedback
from
that
meeting
and
it
was
kind
of
a
you
know,
even
though
it
was
hard
to
stop
what
we
had
started
at
that
point,
you
know
for
us
to
take
a
deeper
look
into
it.
Who
knows
we
may
be
able
to
tie
in
this
mid-storage
grant
that
we
got.
We
may
be
able
to
tie
those
projects
together
and
make
an
even
better
long-lasting
improvement
there,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
real
world
example.
D
C
C
This
was
put
on
as
a
result
of
sea
island.
Comprehensive
health
care
center
has
a
track
of
land.
I
don't
know
it
may
be
somewhere
between
right,
around
10
acres
and
they
have
only
one
plant
and
they
sought
to
subdivide
132
bed,
nursing
home
from
a
8
800
square
foot,
health
clinic
from
a
2400
square
foot
off
administrative
building
and
an
almost
three
acre
out
parcel.
C
C
The
surveyor
went
out.
Did
the
surveys
and
attempt
to
get
the
plat
recorded
our
stormwater
person?
Mr
kinsey
said
you
know
hey,
how
are
you
going
to
explain
how
this
drainage
is
going
to
go?
I'm
just
paraphrasing.
All
of
this
which
popped
up
the
director
reached
out
to
me,
mr
leon
burton
reached
out
to
me
to
say:
hey
what
can
we
do
because
his
engineer
explained
to
him
it's
going
to
be
pretty
pricey
to
go
out
and
and
survey.
The
existing
drainage
put
them
on
a
plant
exist.
C
C
He
said
you
know
that
question
needs
to
be
pushed
out
to
our
legal
apartment,
which
led
me
to
mcqueen,
so
we
got
a
little
conversation
going
back
and
forth
before
the
weekend
and
true
to
his
form
instead
of
mr
mcqueen
waiting
until
today
a
working
day,
he
actually
thought
about
it
over
over
the
weekend
and
maybe
came
up
with
a
possible
solution.
Mr
mcqueen.
G
I
I
I
think
the
way
I
originally
explained
it
is
iowa
storm
water
is
so
hard
because
sometimes
it's
diffused
and
not
it's
not.
You
know,
you're
not
channeling
it.
Sometimes
I
like
to
think
of
it
like
sewer
a
sewer
system
or
or
a
road
like
other
utilities,
but
sometimes
it
doesn't
operate
like
that.
The
I
compared
it
in
this
situation
to
a
road
where
the
city
won't,
when
a
city
reviews
a
plat,
subdividing
property.
I
If
it
doesn't
have
a
if
it
doesn't
have
access
somewhere
from
the
pro
the
landlocked
property
to
a
public
road,
it
will
not
approve
the
plat
and
the
same
goes
with
the
stormwater
ordinances.
I've
not
had
a
chance
to
look
at
I've
got
volume
two
of
my
stormwater
laws.
I
don't
have
my
volume,
one
which
is
at
home,
but
there's
a
my
recollection
in
dealing
with
not
this
exact
issue,
but
a
different
issue
is
you
have
to
show
you
know
your
downstream
ability
to
drain?
I
I
don't
think
kinsey's
asking
for
a
public
easement.
I
think
what
he's
asking
for
is
some
documentation
and
they
may
they
may
already
have
it
in
their
in
their
title
documents.
I
don't
know
some
documentation
that
any
what
I
would
call
storm
water
locked
property
has
the
right
to
drain
over
whatever
other
properties
are
preventing
it
from
getting
to
the
the
next
possible
outlet
or
the
city's
stormwater
system.
I
G
Drawings
and
flats,
okay,
so
and
sorry,
no
you're,
okay
and
mr
clay,
I
think
you're
I
have
the
the
ordinance
too,
is
it's
in
the
zoning
code
for
easements.
It
says
when
required,
for
it's
in
section
54,
822
sub
c,
when
required
for
drainage
or
sewage,
for
the
area
to
be
subdivided
shall
be
of
such
width
as
necessary
to
permit
proper
construction
of
drainage
facilities
based
on
the
drainage
system
of
the
area.
No
subdivision
shall
block
or
obstruct
the
natural
drainage
of
adjoining
area.
G
C
G
This
is
the
the
essa
jenkins
plot
and
basically
the
existing
buildings
are
here
a
parking
lot
here
and
you
can
actually
see
there's
actually
drainage,
existing
drainage
pipes
that
come
through
and
drain.
These
parking
lots
here
and
come
across
to
it's
a
pond
structure
it's
over
here
and
the
pond
eventually
has
now
fall,
so
the
the
serve
there's
a
survey,
at
least
of
those
it
looks
like
the
surveyor's
prepared
in
the
past.
I
think
there
are
some
plans
to
develop
this
property,
perhaps
at
the
right
on
maybank.
G
What
was
submitted
then
for
subdivision
to
the
city
is
this
plot,
so
you
can
see
here
the
the
buildings
and
there's
basically
a
subdivision
taking
this
one-story
brick
building
here
it's
got
a
little
bit
of
an
l
shape,
there's
a
subdivision
of
an
existing
one-story,
brick
building
here
and
then
there's
a
subdivision
of
kind
of
this
larger
tract
here,
including
the
parking
lot
and
then,
finally,
this
this
section
up
front.
So
our
concern
is
like
the
section
up
front,
doesn't
show
all
of
the
existing
private
drainage
easements
that
are
shown
on
it.
G
G
Plus
we,
as
you
recall,
there
were
pipes
that
run
here
and
through
here
and
actually
go
across
the
affordable
housing
property
and
come
out.
So
what
we
were
saying
is
you
need
to
put
drainage
easements
onto
those
existing
pipes,
because
otherwise
the
property
owners
in
theory
could
try
to
block
off
those
pipes,
remove
the
pipes
and
you're
getting
into
an
issue.
We
certainly
want
anyone
developing
this
tractor's,
affordable
housing
to
know
that
there's
a
drainage
pipe
coming
through
their
property.
They
do
not
have
to
be
public
easements.
G
All
this
all
of
this
is
private
drainage,
so
it
can
all
be
private
easements.
They
already
have
the
survey
I
think
of
where
those
pipes
are.
It
would
normally
just
be
putting
a
you
know:
20
foot
wide
easement
centered
over
the
pipes
onto
the
plats.
That
was
all
we've
proposed.
At
this
point,
we
haven't
asked
for
anything
public.
No,
no
survey
work,
no
new
documentation
if
they're
planning
on
abandoning
existing
private
easements
like
on
this
parcel,
that's
great.
G
They
just
need
to
show
that
on
the
plat
and
say
you
know
here
are
the
easements
and
they're
being
abandoned
and
get
the
sign
off
from
the
property
areas,
because
once
once
all
these
are
subdivided
of
course,
then
you
fall
into
the
trap
of.
If
someone
changes
ownership,
it
becomes
very,
very
complicated
later
to
go
back
and
adjust
and
adapt
it
we're
running
into
that,
as
mr
mcqueen
can
refer
to
on
many
development
projects
that
are
multi-phase
development
projects
fall
into
this
problem,
where
the
first
phase
gets
turned
over
to
an
hoa.
G
The
developer
comes
back
in
phase
seven
trying
to
do
something
in
phase
one
with
the
drainage
easement,
and
they
don't
have
the
paperwork
right
and
now
it's
very
difficult
to
get
those
signatures.
So
we're
just
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
everybody's
ducks
are
in
a
row
for
drainage,
easements
and
all
the
property
owners
are
properly
protected,
and
typically
it's
just
the
surveyor
adding
those
notes
onto
the
plat.
At
this
point.
G
I
mean
plus
the
actual
boundary
work
for
the
pipes,
but
it
looks
like
they
have
that
present
from
the
the
other.
Drawing
that
may
be.
What
they're
referring
to
is
that
boundary
work
certainly
might
if
the
survey
are
saying
you
can't
use
the
previous
plot.
It
might
I
mean
I
hate
to
put
costs
onto
a
surveyor,
but
it
certainly
could
cost
a
few
thousand
dollars
to
do
that
work
if
they
have
a
very
highly
priced
surveyor.
C
I
I
I
take
them
at
the
word,
but
if
they
sell
it
tomorrow,
there's
nothing
I
can
do
about
it.
You
know,
or
the
city
can
do
about
it
if
they
sell
one
of
the
tracks
that
they've
subdivided
tomorrow.
That's
just
you
have
to
take
people's
words
for
it,
and
I
always
say
you
know:
zoning
ordinances
and,
and
if
ordinances
are
used
correctly,
you
don't
have
to
take
anybody's
word
for
it.
They
either
check
the
box
or
they
don't
that
way.
C
I
I
What
we're
looking
at
is
something
on
the
plat
or
something
that
we
can
refer
to
on
the
plat,
showing
where
the
easement
is
so
that
people
in
the
future
are
on
notice,
including
the
city
of
where
that
is,
and
if
they
need
to
change
that
they
have
to
come
back
to
us
so
that
we're
always
assured,
there's
downstream
quote,
there's
really
no
downstream
in
the
city,
but
there's
downstream
drainage
over
those
parcels
that
would
otherwise
be
waterlogged
or
whatever
you
want
to
call.
It.
C
G
C
G
G
K
C
K
But
but
I
think
that
maybe
one
way
to
help
kind
of
frame
our
thinking
around
this
issue
is
what
survey
surveyors
and
subdivision
regulations
have
been
doing
for
a
hundred
years
on
access,
vehicular
access
right
when
somebody
comes
in
to
subdivide
a
parcel,
the
city
or
the
county
or
whatever
stations
handling.
The
subdivision
wants
to
make
sure
that
that's
not
a
landlocked
parcel,
so
they
require
access
easements
to
be
shown
on
the
plats
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
public.
It
can
be
private
because
we
want
to
make
sure
you
know.
K
Emergency
vehicles
can
access
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
there's
some
precedent
to
this
and
we're
just
you
know
applying
this
to
the
storm
context,
because
similarly,
we
don't
want
to
have
isolated
parcels
with
no
drainage,
because
once
the
unity
of
title
is
severed
and
there's
a
new
neighbor
next
door,
you
can't
guarantee
that
they're
going
to
be
friendly
and
let
water
traverse
their
property
necessarily.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
all
mapped
out.
K
You
know
before
the
subdivision
happens
to
make
sure
that
you
know
these
neighbors
get
along
well
into
the
future,
because
by
definition
I
mean
an
easement,
we're
very
used
to
talking
about
easements
just
in
terms
of
lines
on
a
map
and
where
things
are
going
sort
of
geographically,
but
with
an
easement.
You've
always
got
a
dominant
estate
and
a
serbian
estate.
K
In
other
words,
one
property
is
benefiting,
the
other
property
is
being
burdened,
and
that's
really,
I
think,
the
ultimate
importance
of
having
this
reflected
on
the
plat
establishing
it
in
the
chain
of
title.
So
subsequent
purchasers
can
be
on
notice.
Lenders
can
be
on
notice.
The
city
has
the
ability
to
pull
a
plaque
if
there's
ever
a
dispute
and
immediately
kind
of
get
to
the
bottom
of
what's
happening
rather
than
you
know.
Every
time
there's
you
know
an
issue
with
a
drainage
in
the
crescent.
K
You
know
chip
and
I
have
to
go
back
in
our
time.
Machine
to
you
know
the
50s
to
look
at
these
ancient
flats,
and
nobody
knows
what's
going
on
1850s,
sometimes
so
part
of
the
reason
that
they
we
have.
These
enhanced
subdivision
regulations
requiring
all
this
detail
on
these
plaques
is
so
that
over
time
we
as
a
city
have
land
records
that
start
to
you
know
be
user
friendly
to
anybody.
C
Okay,
I
mean
it
sounds
like
we
had
some
a
plausible
solution
to
this.
Besides,
you
know
them
doing
development
plans,
basically
all
over
again
now.
One
reason
I
guess
I
really
got
involved
with
this.
You
know
sea
allen
is
the
largest
owner
of
affordable
housing
on
johnson
and
obviously
I
know
we
are
allies
to
that
process,
and
it
just
seemed
to
me.
C
Verbiages
would
help
out
more
than
again
having
to
go
and
get
the
exacts
of
all
the
drainage
and
ingress
and
egress
through
engineering
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
dealing
with
a
non-profit,
so
they
got
limited
needs.
So
so,
mr
fountain,
back
to
the
question
that's
being
posed
as
we
have
posed
it.
Is
that
going
to
be
a
the
question
is
the
same?
Do
we
enhance
the
question
to
the
engineer
that's
trying
to
fill
in
the
blanket.
G
We
can
certainly
reach
out
and
provide
some
clarification.
You
know
verifying
that
we're
we're
not
asking
for
drainage,
design
or
calculations
or
anything
along
those
lines.
We're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
you
know
these
existing
pipes
and
easements
are
shown
on
the
plating
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
very
reasonable
request.
They
should
be
able
to
do
very
inexpensively
with
just
some
some
paperwork
markups.
C
I
I
C
C
A
lot
of
these
areas
will
have
family
enclaves
of
four
and
five
acres,
as
I
explained
to
you,
a
house
here
and
trailer
there
never
being
surveyed
off
and
when
these
people
do
come
to
get
them
subdivided
for
the
purposes
of
family
or
even
again
getting
a
mortgage
or
something
somehow,
we
gotta
have
a
little
bit
simpler
way
of
doing
it.
Now.
C
I
know
new
construction
certainly
comes
with
it
rules
and
I'm
not
trying
to
change
that
at
all,
but
in
particular
for
the
existing
layout
of
ingress
egress,
making
it
a
little
bit
more
simpler.
That's
all
so.
I
appreciate
all
the
minds
that
came
that
came
to
this
one,
real
quick,
so
I
appreciate
it
very
much
anything
else
come
to
the
committee.