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City of Charleston Committee on Real Estate 6/12/23
A
Great
great,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started,
I'd
like
to
call
it
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
started,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
call
to
order
the
June
12
2023
City
of
Charleston
real
estate
committee
meeting
to
order
let's
go
ahead
and
get
things
started
with
an
invocation.
If
council
member
Greg
would
mind
doing
the
honors,
we
would
appreciate
it.
A
All
right
moved
and
properly
seconded
any
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
signify
support
by
saying
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
item
up
is
the
approval
of
a
Fourth
Amendment
to
a
management
agreement
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
the
Charleston
digital
Corridor
foundation
for
space
at
22,
West
Edge?
This
is
on
a
month-to-month
basis
through
the
end
of
the
city's
lease
currently
running
through
April
1st
2025.
D
Sir,
thank
you
just
as
you
stated,
this
would
be
a
Fourth
Amendment
to
the
management
agreement
to
Charleston
digital
Corridor.
Foundation
they've
been
serving
as
a
manager
for
our
space,
our
8
000
square
feet
at
22,
West
Edge.
Our
current
term
is
set
to
expire
in
the
middle
of
July.
This
would
this
amendment
would
run
us
out
through
the
end
of
our
our
existing
five-year
governmental
lease
for
that
space
and
the
CDC
on
our
behalf
recently
renegotiated
a
lease
extension
with
our
sublease,
the
Low
Country
Center
for
veterans
research.
D
A
E
D
It's
a
pretty
significant
amount
and
Earnest
at
the
CDC
has
renegotiated
at
first.
Obviously,
he
had
some
of
the
CDC
tenants.
In
there
we
were
at
a
break
even
a
few
months
into
that
we
had
to
eat
some
early
month
and
a
half
costs.
But
since
then,
with
the
Low
Country
Center
for
veterans,
research
he's
got
them
to
bump
up
their
rent
to
almost
a
break-even
point
to
where
we
are
now
for
the
remaining
almost
two
years.
C
C
F
A
Well,
good
deal
Matt
thanks
for
that
presentation.
Does
anybody
else
from
the
committee
have
any
comments
or
questions
before
we
vote
all
right
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
of
the
Fourth
Amendment,
not
in
the
Constitution,
but
in
this
agenda
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
right,
all
right
all
opposed
hearing,
none
the
eyes.
Have
it
thanks?
A
F
F
Our
lease
will
end
as
it
stands
at
the
end
of
this
year,
so
this
would
allow
us
for
another
three-year
term,
plus
one
option
to
renew
one-year
option
to
renew
all
other
items
remain
in
place,
including
the
income.
Five
percent
annual
increase.
Excuse
me
on
rent,
and
this
is
of
course,
while
we
are
hopefully
in
the
process
of
completing
a
new
fire
station
to
do
both.
B
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
yeah,
just
I
would
like
to
point
out
this
fire
station
is
in
pretty
bad
shape
and
well.
I
know
we're
not
directly
responsible
for
getting
the
replacement.
This
one
is
in
desperate
need
of
replacement,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
help
accelerate
the
development
on
Enterprise
Drive.
To
get
this
new,
Fire
Station
built
would
be
I
think
well
well
received.
B
E
G
This
is
the
marina
drive,
because
I
looked
at
the
pond
field,
I
thought
it
was
I
was
the
one
that
we
had
extended
on
the
so-called
the
new
one,
but
this
is
the
one
that
was
the
former
housing
for
the
construction
company
when
they
were
building
526.
Is
this
the
one
we're
talking
about?
That
is
correct
yeah?
So,
if
you
ever,
if
anybody's
ever
been
out
there
saying
this
in
bad
shape,
is
an
understatement.
G
And
I
just
want
to
Echo
the
sooner
we
get
this
thing
up
and
running
and
our
replacement
bill
the
better
off
we're
going
to
be
that's
just
a
not
a
very
good
Condition.
It's
so
bad
that
coming
out
of
that
station,
the
apparatus
has
to
be
careful
coming
down
the
driveway,
so
it
doesn't
do
damage
to
the
to
the
truck.
E
Mayor,
so
in
light
of
that,
the
com,
those
comments
I
did
want
to
report
that
I
think
I
think
we
finally
got
past
our
last
kind
of
Roadblock
internally
to
be
able
to
proceed
with
the
replacement
fire
station.
We
needed
some
some
consideration
at
bza
for
a
tree
removal
frankly,
and
we
got
that
approval.
Just
last
week,
I
was
told,
or
just
recently
so
I
think
our
capital
projects
team
when
Beth
Brownlee
is
going
to
be
our
project
manager
on
this
one
again
is
ready
to
move
forward.
E
D
Yeah,
so
just
to
update
everyone.
So
as
far
as
the
existing
Pinefield
temporary
station
is
concerned-
and
it's
conditioned
over
the
last
few
months
earlier
this
year,
we
have
had
some
work
done
to
the
interior
of
that
station
and
the
exterior
roof
by
both
the
landlord
and
the
city.
The
city
has
some
small
work.
It's
going
to
continue
to
do
in
there
to
make
it
more
habitable.
D
We
understand,
with
the
next
three
years,
plus
a
one-year
option
that
we
need
to
make
it
a
better
station,
the
best
of
our
ability,
the
mayor,
you
are
correct.
There
was
a
busy
EA
approval
related
to
the
Enterprise
Drive
property.
Last
week,
our
current
bargain
sale
agreement
is
out
of
date.
We
have
an
amendment
to
that
bargain
salary
for
that
property
that
we
are
negotiating
a
few
items
on
still
we
have
a
meeting
in
about
a
week
and
a
half
with
the
developer.
I
A
Aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
all
right.
Next
item
up
is
in
regards
to
the
children's
museum
Children's
Museum
of
the
Low
Country,
and
this
is
approval
of
a
second
Amendment
to
the
amended
and
restated
lease
agreement,
and
we've
got
Miss
Copeland
on
the
line
ready
to
share
some
more
details
on
this
one.
Yes,.
J
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
so
this
has
a
bit
of
a
long-sorted
history.
Just
to
give
you
a
brief
reminder,
we
initially
came
here
with
a
request
to
counsel
that
they
purchased
the
building
in
order
to
use
it
as
collateral
to
do
all
the
renovations
that
failed.
So
then,
the
museum
came
back
with
additional
requests
to
extend
the
lease
term
for
99
years.
I
think
that
was
deferred
as
well
and
since
then,
Karen
Coltrane
has
come
on
as
the
new
executive,
director
and
she's
been
fabulous
and
very
communicative
with
us.
J
There
she
is,
and
so
now
we
are
at
a
position
to
present
to
you
all,
an
amendment
that
would
extend
the
term
to
2040
with
the
availability
of
a
10-year
option
I'm.
At
the
end
of
that
to
extend
it's
going
to
add
two
council
members
as
ex-officio
members
to
the
board,
which
I
think
that
was
a
big
ask
of
counsel
during
those
discussions
and
then
as
far
as
money
is
concerned.
J
In
this,
it
will
be
a
one-time
allocation
of
1.2
million
dollars
from
the
city
to
the
museum
toward
their
4
million
renovation
project
that
will
be
coming
out
of
hospitality.
I
believe
Hospitality
taxes,
but
Amy
will
chime
in
there
if
I'm
wrong
on
that
one
and
then
we'll
also
be
adding
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
annual
maintenance
fee
to
go
toward
upkeep
of
the
building.
So
with
that
said,
we
would
recommend
approval
of
this
amendment.
C
C
K
G
You
Mr
chairman
and
Julie.
You
did
a
wonderful
job
summarizing
the
history
of
all
of
this,
and
we've
had
some
very
spirited
discussions
on
where
the
museum
was
headed
and
where
they
wanted
to
go
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
good
partners.
Karen,
for
this
is
a
very
important
function
that
y'all
provide
to
the
citizens
of
the
community.
I.
G
Remember
one
of
the
questions
that
we
get
asked
earlier
during
those
discussions
was
the
who
your
clients
were
so
to
speak,
and
we
got
some
really
good
numbers
back
from
y'all
doing
that
and
I
just
presume
that
is
still
the
the
standard.
It's
all
reaching
out
to
the
the
members
of
our
community
to
take
full
advantage
of
the
wonderful
things
that
y'all
offer
over
there.
G
I
just
remember,
taking
a
tour
with
council
member
Sheely
several
years
ago
was
pouring
down
rain
and
I
was
just
amazed
at
the
the
level
of
activity
inside
that
that
building
in
the
buzz
and
you
you
could
feel
the
energy
immediately
as
you
walked
in
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
and
after
the
fact
tour
when
you
got
your
improvements
underway.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind
for
us
when
you,
when
you
do
that,
I.
K
K
I
came
in
to
monitor
the
situation
on
Saturday
because
it
was,
it
was,
got
a
little
dicey,
but
we
we
had
a
line
out
to
Ann
Street
with
people
from
all
over.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
good
to
see
and
everybody
was
very
positive
and
excited
about
the
museum,
so
I
have
I
guess
before
I
landed
here,
I
have
14
years
of
Children's
Museum
experience
in
Richmond,
Virginia
and
Columbia
South
Carolina
at
Adventure
and
I
I
know
what
we
need
to
do.
K
I
we,
my
family
and
I,
moved
to
ragborough
my
husband
and
I
bought
a
home
here
when
I
was
running
Adventure
because
we
love
Charleston.
So
much
and
I
would
look
across
the
street
and
look
at
that
Museum
and
say
we
gotta.
We
gotta
get
that
to
the
level
that
this
fabulous
city
is
and
I'm
committed
to
that
so
I.
A
C
A
C
K
We
do
and
the
state
we've
actually
formed
an
the
South
Carolina
Children's
Museum
association
with
the
upstate
Children's
Museum
Adventure,
low
country
and
Rock
Hill,
and
we
are
going
the
four
of
us
together
after
State
funding
as
well
for
all
of
our
Capital
needs.
So
there's.
We
think
that
we
can
raise
the
bulk
of
this
fairly
quickly.
K
I
need
to
knock
on
something,
but
we
feel
very
good
about
it
and
just
the
conversations
we're
having
just
in
town
I
mean
we
can't
everybody
seems
to
love
the
Children's
Museum
and
understand
why
it's
important,
and
particularly
the
Outreach,
that
we
do
in
Charleston
for
families
that
can't
afford
to
come
to
the
museum
as
well
as
throughout
the
Low
Country.
So
we're
those
those
aspects
of
what
we
do
helps
attract
private
philanthropic
support
as
well.
K
A
Yeah,
this
all
sounds
great
I.
Think
we've
made
some
very
good
progress
on
this
and
Miss
Coltrane
welcome
and
really
excited
about
seeing
what's
in
store
for
this
institution,
we
went
a
few
months
ago
with
our
little
girl
and
had
a
great
time,
and
it
was
just
it's
just
great
I-
think
it's
great
currently,
but
just
the
idea
of
it
continuing
to
expand
and
improve
to
serve
our
entire
Community
is
just
really
exciting
to
think
about.
A
A
A
L
L
So
we
don't
are
not
using
them
at
this
time,
so
we,
you
know,
agreed
to
be
good
partners
and
do
that
they
are
still
have
to
abide
by
all
the
terms
of
the
current.
You
know,
use
agreement
that
they
have
for
Stoney
field
is
for
a
set
period
of
time
for
well.
It
actually
says
June
21st,
but
it
for
until
August
22nd.
C
C
A
I
mean
it's
it's
a
very
good
point:
I
mean
if
you're
doing
cleans-
and
you
know
Olympic,
lifts
and
stuff
like
that.
You
know
what
they
do
these
days.
Is
you
can
get
these
paddings?
These
mats
that
you
can,
you
can
drop
the
weights
on,
but
we
want
to
make
sure,
of
course,
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
that
that
the
guys
and
the
and
the
girls
can
do
do
what
you
got
to
do.
A
It's
it
is
true,
but
that
that
is
about
as
close
to
a
law
of
nature
as
you're
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
get
there
well
well
good
deal
we'll
any
further
questions.
I
I'm,
not
sure,
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Okay,
moved
and
properly
seconded
any
further
comments.
Questions
from
committee
members,
okay
hearing,
not
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
you're,
none
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right.
A
M
Thank
you,
chairman
Appel
I'm,
going
to
give
the
committee
just
an
introductory
and
overview
and
ask
Molina
to
cover
the
legal
aspects
of
the
option
to
lease
in
ground
lease
agreements
that
are
before
you
Conifer
came
to
us
through
a
request
for
proposals
that
was
administered
by
our
procurement
department.
They.
This
was
one
of
three
proposals
that
we
received.
The
committee
selected
them
as
the
most
responsive
bidder.
M
This
property,
as
you
all
may
be
familiar
with,
is
on
cunnington
Avenue
in
the
upper
peninsula
or
neck
area
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
we're
excited
to
have
them
proposing
about
98
units
of
multi-family
rental
housing.
At
this
site
they
would
provide
living
quarters
or
apartments
rental
apartments
for
those
earning
from
30
percent
of
the
area
median
income
to
80
percent
of
the
area
median
income.
You
may
also
recall
that
this
site
is
where
our
Hope
Center
will
be
constructed
as
well.
M
They
will
be
next
door
neighbors
if
you
will
to
each
other,
and
so
this
development
team
is
coming
to
the
to
the
City
of
Charleston
new.
We
have
not
used
them
previously,
although
they
have
a
great
history
in
the
northeast
of
work
that
they've
done
around
the
same
type
of
construction.
They
are
asking
the
City
of
Charleston
as
they
provide
these
98
units
for
2
million
dollars
to
go
towards
the
34
million
dollar
price
tag
to
build
these
98
units.
M
Currently
we
are
holding
about
1.8
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds
directly
awarded
to
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development,
specifically
for
the
purpose
of
assisting
with
the
development
of
Housing,
and
so
that
is
a
little
background
on
this.
We
would
enter
into
this
if
approved
for
60
years,
and
then
the
City
of
Charleston
would
receive
our
land
as
well
as
the
improvements
back
until
that
time,
the
Conifer
developers
would
oversee
and
manage
that
those
units
that
are
constructed
there
with
that
Molina
did
you
want
to
jump
into
the
specifics
on
those
agreements.
Thank
you.
N
Hi
good
afternoon,
so
the
the
option
to
lease
would
allow
Conifer
365
days
to
exercise
that
option
to
enter
into
the
ground
lease
which
is
attached
as
an
exhibit
like
Gianna
mentioned.
It
would
be
if
they
do
exercise
that
option
to
enter
into
the
ground
lease.
The
term
would
be
for
60
years
and
once
if
they
do
exercise
that
option
and
they
enter
into
it,
they
would
be
developing
98
total
units.
N
They
are
waiting
on
the
the
results
of
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit,
which
is
the
reason
for
the
long
option
period
of
365
days
to
make
sure
that
those
funds
would
be
available
to
them.
During
that
period
they
would
have
to
complete
construction
once
started
within
30
months
from
the
commencement
date,
and
there
is
a
penalty
of
four
thousand
dollars
month:
four
thousand
dollars
per
month
of
rent
penalty
rent.
N
If
it's
not
completed
within
that
time
period,
all
plans
and
specifications
for
the
improvements,
including
all
the
common
areas,
are
subject
to
approval
by
the
city.
Obviously,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
specific
questions
you
guys
might
have
about
either
the
option
to
lease
or
the
ground
lease.
C
N
C
K
C
Why
tied
up
a
year
and
they're,
just
waiting
to
find
out
what's
happening
in
Colombia
as
I
would
suspect
most
tax
credit
Builders
developers
would
be
waiting
on
beta
Grantsville
and
the
second
thing
why
why
60
years
and
not
30
years
so
I
mean
the
debt
that
they
will
get
I
doubt
that
will
be
a
60
year.
Mortgage.
C
M
Let
me
answer
the
first
one,
while
they're
waiting,
they
are
going
to
exercise
due
diligence,
because
State
housing
is
decided
not
to
do
a
round
this
year,
but
they're
going
to
put
one
out
early
next
year
and
so
like
many
other
developers.
If,
if
you're
not
receiving
the
low
income,
housing
tax
credits,
it's
difficult
to
get
the
full
amount
of
funding
that
is
required
to
put
these
deals
together.
M
H
M
Notification,
late,
Friday
I
think
it
was
that
they
are
not
going
to
do
around.
They
have
to
fulfill
some
other
obligations
that
they
have
in
my
opinion,
as
they
could
still
do
it,
but
that's
just
my
opinion,
so
that
would
allow
this
group
to
move
forward
get
their
due
diligence
done
such
that
they
would
be
ready
to
move
forward.
M
One
state
housing
releases
the
application.
What
you'll
see
when
we
deal
with
the
next
item?
Is
we
oftentimes
have
that
performance
or
due
diligence
period
too
short
of
a
period
of
time?
And
so
we
found
that
a
number
of
these
folks
have
to
come
back
and
ask
for
amendments
to
extend
their
option
to
lease,
and
so
this
kind
of
keeps
us
from
having
to
do
that.
Two
and
three
different
times.
M
M
C
I
E
And
and
if
I
made
a
follow-up
and
I
I
note,
you've
got
the
income
range
from
30
to
80.,
so
we
we've
got
some
low-income
capacity
there.
So
to
speak,
but
do
we
have
you
know?
We've
talked
Gianna
a
couple
of
times
about
having
some
real
connectivity
between
the
clients
that
we
serve
at
the
Hope
Center
with
the
housing
that
would
be
on
this
site.
M
Yes,
sir,
in
fact,
as
part
of
their
proposal,
they
included
Castel
Singleton's
organizations,
Palmetto
Community,
Action
Program,
and
so
they
talked
about
the
connection
between
assisting
those
persons
who
would
fall
into
that
30
percent
and
Below
category
with
housing,
education,
housing,
counseling
and
being
able
to
transition
them
into
housing.
And
typically
your
folks,
coming
out
of
homelessness
will
fall
into
that
category
and
or
they
are
supported
by
subsidy
or
vouchers
from
your
housing
authorities.
And
so
yes
mayor.
Absolutely
we
don't
call
it
transitional
housing
because
it's
longer
than
six
months.
N
M
C
I
mean
well,
if
it's
not
in
there,
that
would
costly
have
that
discussion.
You
know
I'm
a
big
favor,
just
like
you
fan
of
having
a
permanent,
affordable
housing
in
particular,
since
we
own
the
property.
It
just
makes
sense
that
that's
one
of
the
biggest
keys
to
create
permanent,
affordable
housing
is
ownership.
C
So
you
know
I
know
we
did
that
on
one
of
the
tracks
on
where
the
bridge
came
down,
the
Cooper
River
Bridge
came
down.
We
I
think
it
was
after
60
years
or
50
years.
Maybe
City
had
to
write
a
first
refusal,
or
something
like
that.
So
it
seems
like
that
would
make
sense,
if
possible,
to
get
that
negotiated
in
this.
So.
C
C
M
A
A
M
They're,
just
asking
for
an
extension
of
their
option
to
lease
they've
been
actively
pursuing
additional
funding
and
awaiting
further
notification
of
the
funding
that
they
were
com
that
was
committed
to
them
by
state
housing.
And
so
we
understand
that
those
letters
are
now
coming
forth
from
State
housing
to
help
fill
the
gaps
that
existed
for
these
deals,
and
so
they're
essentially
asking
the
city
to
allow
them
that
time
to
pull
all
of
that
information
together
and
move
forward.
M
C
G
G
A
G
A
E
E
They
were
presented
in
a
public
meeting
the
other
day
and
we
felt
like
it
was
appropriate
in
bringing
this
matter
back
to
council
to
bring
it
back
through
the
real
estate
committee,
as
it's
been
here
before,
but
I
was
just
going
to
suggest
to
council
members.
My
colleagues
I
know
we
all
have
individual
opinions
about
this
matter
and
I
would
just
suggest
we.
We
take
this
as
information
and
and
and
refer
it
on
to
to
council.
G
O
A
We
we
ought
to
talk
about
about
doing
that.
That'd
be
a
lot,
be
a
lot
of
fun.
Well,
Eric,
mayor
and
everybody
else
on.
The
committee
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
proceed
today.
Let's
just
get
this
information,
and
that
way
we
can,
you
know,
sort
of
have
a
little
bit
of
a
dry
run
here
for
next
week
at
Council
will
I'm
sure
we'll
have
nothing
short
of
a
full-blown
discussion
over
these
options.
So
Erica
consider
this
the
the
dry
run
all.
O
Right
sounds
good,
so
yeah.
So
thank
you,
council
members
for
having
us
back
again.
We
do
have
Jason
Ward
and
Jonathan
Oakman
on
the
line
too.
If
there
are
any
poignant
questions
that
I
cannot
answer
so
just
they
are
here
for
backup,
but
it'll
be
mostly
me
going
through
the
slide.
So
as
mentioned,
we
did
have
a
public
information
Outreach
meeting
on
June
8th
last
week
at
the
Pearl
theater
in
West
Ashley.
O
There
we
go.
It
was
a
very
well
attended
meeting,
definitely
over
on
the
on
the
right
side,
that
Auditorium
seats,
135
people
and
it
was
standing
room
only.
So
we
had
a
very
good
amount
of
people.
It
was
broken
up
into
two
two
sections,
the
first
hour
of
it.
We
had
one
of
the
rooms
open
with
some
of
the
elements
that
we
were
then
presented
on.
O
It
was
open
for
a
gallery
style
for
people
to
walk
through
kind
of
look
at
stuff
and
allow
them
some
time
to.
You,
know
kind
of
just
soak
it
all
in
it's
a
lot
of
information
that
I
usually
present
to
everyone
happens
when
it's
a
five-year
project.
Is
you
have
a
lot
of
history
to
catch
people
up
on
when
they
they
come
in
and
then
the
actual
presentation
itself
went
very
well.
O
Here's
the
agenda
that
we
went
through
so
had
an
introduction
from
mayor
tecklenburg.
We
did
just
kind
of
how
we
got
to
the
program
for
the
site
so
that
way,
people
understood
the
different
uses
and
activities
where
that
all
came
from
showed
the
Alternatives
for
the
Redevelopment
layout
and
then
also
touched
on
the
West
Ashley
Redevelopment
Tiff,
and
how
we're
planning
to
use
that
for
the
the
actual
City
portion
of
this.
O
When
it
comes
to
the
development
and
then
you'll
see
on
the
right
side,
we
tried
something
a
little
bit
new.
We
used
a
platform
called
slido
to
do
a
to
do
a
live,
interactive
survey.
While
we
were
going
through
this,
so
there
were
several
questions
throughout
that
allowed
the
audience
to
really
come
back
in
and
and
and
help
help
us
move
this
along
for
for
the
program,
I.
Of
course,
I
always
like
to
reiterate
this
every
time.
O
I
talk
about
this
project
is
that
you
know
we
had
some
of
the
most
robust,
in-depth
Community
feedback
at
the
very
onset
of
this
back
in
2018,
almost
a
thousand
people,
200
or
927
people
responded,
and
you
know,
helped
us
really
craft
what
we
wanted
to
put
here
for
the
program
you
know
they.
This
was
the
broad
mix
that
they
got
to
consider
for
what
could
go
here.
O
O
and
then
I
won't
rehash
the
the
full
history
that
you
guys
are
are
aware
of,
but
that
is
how
we
got
the
program
that
then
Landmark
came
along
and
and
is
has
been
providing
us
the
way
to
achieve
it.
Since
then,
we
did
you
know
the
first
of
our
questions
was
just
asking
the
attendees.
Do
you
still
agree
with
that?
Is
this
everything
that
you
do
want
to
see
here?
Is
this
still
accurate
and
overwhelmingly?
O
So
from
there
we
went
into
the
design
alternatives
to
really
show
okay.
Well,
how
do
you
achieve
those
here's,
some
experientials,
that
we
vetted
with
Community
input
back
during
covid,
we
had
some
meeting
with
some
Community
leaders
to
figure
out
different
styles
and
how
to
how
to
really
break
up
how
people
would
experience
the
site.
These
were
the
ones
that
came
to
the
top
of
that.
O
From
that
here's
option
one
option:
one
is
the
exact
same
option
that
you
guys
have
seen
before.
This
is
the
one
that
has
gone
through
the
West
National
revitalization
commission,
designer
View,
Board
technical
Review,
Committee
designer
view
committee.
So
this
had
the
most
amount
of
detail
and
thought
put
into
it
in
terms
of
flushing
everything
out
how
everything
would
work.
O
So
what
we
had,
what
we
actually
ended
up
having
to
do
is
redraw
it
to
bring
it
down
a
scale.
So
that
way
it
would
match
more
in
line
with
the
other
two
options
that
were
produced
at
the
request
of
city
council.
So
on
this
one
you
can
see
the
commercial
elements
are
all
pushed
up
along
Sam,
Rittenberg
Boulevard.
O
It
has
an
internal
linear
alley
that
all
the
entrances
for
the
restaurants,
retail
rest
offices
would
be
along
that
lines
up
with
the
future
Civic
building,
which
would
be
buildings,
A
and
B,
and
a
being
the
city
office
tower
at
three
stories.
B
being
the
assembly
space
on
this
one
and
you
can
see
up
in
the
top
left,
it's
a
little
hard
to
read.
I
have
a
slide
further
down.
That
makes
it
larger,
but
we
also
had
all
the
different
square,
footages
and
occupancies
that
could
be
allowed
in
these
areas.
O
O
O
Some
of
the
more
Plaza
and
splash
pad
elements
that
were
requested
by
some
council
members
to
add
some
interest
and
another
aspect
for
the
kids
to
really
help
land,
some
good
memories
at
this
location
and
then
on
the
right
side.
You
see
how
the
parking
layout
would
occur
underneath
the
site
this
one
and
did
have
this
so
so
this
one
really
is
fully
showing
the
constraints
that
we
had
on
the
site
based
on
community
feedback,
and
so
the
buildings
are
at
two
and
three
stories
tall.
O
O
They
wanted:
the
commercial
up
on
Sam
Rittenberg
like
I
mentioned,
and
then
in
addition
to
that,
one
of
the
items
was
that
they
did
not
want
to
see
a
parking
deck.
So
this
really
hit
on
all
of
those
and
then
there's
also.
In
addition
to
that,
the
City
of
Charleston
we
put
on
them
that
we
wanted
to
see
Dutch
dialogues
Innovations,
put
up
brought
into
this,
and
then
we
have
a
Green
Building
standard
for
our
city.
O
Buildings
called
Charleston
Rises
that
we
want
them
to
achieve
that
for
the
project
overall.
So
you
can
see
here
this
would
be
the
drive
past
as
if
you
were
turning
down
to
go
down
Old
Town
Road,
you
see
the
city
office
building
on
the
right
side.
The
auditorium
would
be
behind
those
palm
trees
and
it
would
just
have
this
very
large,
Civic
Fountain
right
there,
welcoming
you
to
West,
Ashley
and
letting
you
know
that
this
is
a
place
of
prominence.
O
Here's
the
Sam
Rittenberg
side
looking
so
this
would
be
if
you
were
standing
in
front
of
where
the
Sporting
Goods
store
is
at
looking
across
the
street.
So
what
you're?
Seeing
there
is
the
three
stories
on
the
right
side
are
the
privately
held
offices
on
the
left
side.
You
see.
The
city
offices
in
between
would
be
the
restaurant
retail
that
has
their
front
entrances
along
that
public
Alleyway.
There
is
a
Breezeway
that
connects
sumar
street
down
the
spine.
O
In
addition
to
that,
you'll
see
that
a
kind
of
wood,
banded
Tower
element
closer
into
us
that
would
be
on
above
ground
cistern.
Part
of
Charleston
Rises
says
that
it.
They
also
want
to
explain
how
you
handle
storm
water
visually,
not
just
hiding
everything
Underground
then
here
would
be
an
activity
or
an
event
going
on
in
the
public
closet
space.
O
O
So
you
can
see
that
we're
still
trying
to
use
Sam
Rittenberg,
as
mostly
the
commercial
area
with
buildings,
J
and
F,
but
now
what
we've
done
is
also
break
up
that
courtyard.
It's
a
much
larger
Courtyard
that
could
have
some
flexibility
to
it.
So
building
a
would
be
up
at
the
the
front
corner
there.
Just
to
finish
this
off,
building
a
would
be
the
Civic
conference
spaces.
H
C
O
O
Keeping
two.
The
same
idea
that
was
presented
from
the
to
the
community
would
be
keeping
this
with
two
and
three
story:
buildings.
The
Civic
buildings
are
now
one
and
a
half
stories
tall
slightly
taller
than
a
regular
one
story,
but
we
have
in
this
option,
removed
the
taller
city
office
building
and
the
parking
deck
itself
would
be
a
three
level,
so
there
would
be
ground
level
mid-level
and
then
roof,
and
that's
the
way
that
we
can.
O
We
can
get
the
parking
on
there
with
this,
and
you
know
just
because
it
looks
like
this
in
the
masking
diagram,
there
are
ways
to
screen
and
beautify
a
parking
deck.
So
that
way
it
does
not
just
appear
to
be
floating
slabs.
It's
something
that
in
Charleston
we're
very
good
at
screening.
Our
parking
decks
and
we
would
expect
that
same
level
of
detail
to
come
out
of
this
project
here
would
be
the
view
of
the
new
Civic
building.
O
So
you
can
see
it's
one
and
a
half
stories
tall,
so
it's
basically
an
extra
height
one
story,
building
Breezeway
that
connects
them,
but
it
would
now
be
open
and
stove
and
closed.
The
right
side
would
have
the
smaller
conference
rooms
that
can
be
adapted
to
different
neighborhood
meetings
and
the
left
side
would
have
that
Auditorium
within
it.
O
Here's
the
new
Civic
lawn
space.
So
you
can
see
it's
really
fully
wrapped
this
time
with
structures
and
buildings,
so
it
would
give
a
completely
enclosed
feel,
whereas
in
option
one
there
would
be
that
opening
out
to
that
surface
level
parking.
So
we
could
have
the
flexibility
to
have
events
that
Spilled
Out
onto
there
in
terms
of
food
trucks
or
farmers
markets,
things
of
that
nature
very
similar
in
terms
of
detailing
and
program
here
and
then
option.
O
O
So
for
this
one,
what
what
ends
up
happening
is
the
majority
of
the
site
is
then
taken
over
by
this
surface
level,
parking
lot
and
it
really
skinnies
down
what
we
can
do
at
this
location
in
order
to
balance
the
parking
field
and
the
activity
space.
We've
now
gone
to
a
single
story
across
the
board
for
this
area.
The
Civic
Plaza
space
is
narrowed
down,
I
believe
when
it
comes
to
private
offices.
Those
are,
if
I
remember
right.
O
So
with
this
one,
like
I,
said
it's
all
one
story:
we're
still
trying
to
keep
with
the
same
program
and
the
same
feeling
of
keeping
that
lawn
space
enclosed.
So
that
way,
families
do
feel
comfortable,
bringing
their
children
here,
knowing
that
they're
protected
by
the
buildings
around
them
from
the
vehicles
on
each
side,
the
Civic
space
would
more
or
less
stay
the
same.
O
In
terms
of
the
detailing
to
the
previous
one,
interior
Courtyard
is
much
smaller,
not
not
as
much
going
on
and
then
here's
the
square
feet
comparison
between
all
of
these
ones,
one
second,
there
we
go
so
on
this
one.
You
can
see
that
that
just
kind
of
what
changes
between
all
all
the
different
options
in
terms
of
square
feet,
so
the
biggest
difference
from
option
one
to
option
two
is
the
removal
of
the
city
office
tower.
O
So
from
that
we
went
back
into
the
rest
of
our
presentation
here.
Ask
the
general
public
that
was
there.
You
know,
based
on
all
the
information
you
just
heard.
What
are
your
rankings?
What
are
your
your
opinions
about
what
should
occur
at
this
site
and
72
percent
said
that
they
still
favored
the
underground
parking,
18
favored,
the
parking
deck,
the
structured
above
ground
and
10
10
said
the
surface.
O
Like
I
said
we
just
briefly
went
over
the
Tiff
and
different
funding
models,
for
it
ask
them
for
public
comments.
There
was
11
people
that
got
up
to
speak
and
then
here's
all
the
different
digital
questions
and
answers
that
were
submitted
to
us
and
then
this
presentation,
with
a
few
extra
slides
in
it,
is
available
online
already.
So
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
stop
screen
sharing
and
give
my
voice
a
rest
for
a
minute.
A
C
I
C
E
Mr
chairman,
we
did
discuss
briefly
at
the
presentation,
also
what
the
financial
difference
might
be
amongst
at
least
option
one
and
two
I
I,
don't
think
the
other
night.
They
mentioned
a
difference
on
on
the
third
one,
but
I
think
just
for
the
record.
If
we
could
ask
Jason
to
share
with
us
what
what
where
what
he
knows
now
about
the
approximate
ballpark
differential
in
in
pricing,
I,
think
just
just
so.
Everybody
can
consider
all
the
facts
that
that
would
be
a
good
thing
to
share.
I
P
P
We
expect
and
and
again
please
understand
that
these
are
these
we're
trying
to
Cobble
together
numbers
from
from
our
pricing
efforts
on
option
one,
and
we
have
little
to
no
design
work,
really
done.
Beyond
conceptual
for
option
two
and
three
so
I
just
want
to
add
that
disclaimer.
But
we
feel
like
that
option.
Two
or
three,
a
reasonable
number
for
option.
Two,
which
is
the
structured
parking
deck,
will
be
roughly
around
35
to
37
million
for
everything,
and
that
does
incorporate
a
condensed
Civic
Center
option.
E
P
Sure
be
happy
to
so
we
we've.
As
you
all
know,
we've
we've
been
down
a
far
road
with
this.
We
are
through
design
development.
So,
right
now
we
have
basically
our
our
drb
PRC
approvals.
Our
option
number
one.
You
know
I'd
remind
you
that
we've
we've
spent
you
know
close
to
650
000
on
that
design
and
that
we
are
a
you
know,
roughly
a
three
to
three
or
four
months
away
from
being
able
to
complete
that
plan
and
to
expedite
a
building
permit
with
with
the
city.
P
If
we
go
with
option
two
or
three,
there
are
things
that
we
know
about
the
site
that
would
create
efficiencies
for
us,
meaning
in
our
design
program.
Geotechnical
survey
there's
certain
things:
there
storm
water
plans,
Etc
et
cetera,
but
we're
basically
going
back
to
the
starting
line.
So
the
last
nine
to
12
months,
we've
spent
working
on
this
design
effort.
P
It's
not
a
complete
throwaway,
but
that
might
be
a
good
way
to
describe
it.
So
we
are
going
back
to
the
starting
line,
so
that
would
so
if
in
just
generality,
I
would
say
it
would
roughly
add.
You
know
add
another
nine
to
ten
months
to
if
we
were
to
start
one
option,
two
or
three
today
to
our
process.
P
The
construction.
Interesting
enough,
you
know
option
one
is
is
a
difficult
construction
process
you
know,
and
building
building
underground
is,
is
something
that
will
take
a
little
more
time
than
than
than
just
building
a
parking
lot.
So
there
may
be
some
efficiencies
there
for
catching
up
for
our
project
delivery,
but
I
can't
really.
P
I'm.
Sorry,
sorry
about
that!
No
sir!
That's
that's
roughly
just
for
the
public
component,
so
that
would
include
the
associated
cost
with
things
that
we've
associated
with
the
public
component
of
the
buildings,
and
that
would
be
the
public
side
cost.
That
would
not
include
my
cost
on
the
private
side.
G
P
A
C
Mr,
chairman
sure,
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
good
not
to
Dave,
maybe
certainly
before
to
the
week
to
break
out
how
much
is
for
the
parking.
How
much
is
for
the
building,
as
opposed
to
a
lump
sum
tour,
so
we
can
actually
compare
and
contrast
between
plans
anyway.
I
think
that
would
be
good
to
have
that
information
thanks.
B
Oh
yeah,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
yeah,
one
other
clarification
in
addition
to
what
councilman
Waring
asks
for,
would
it
be
possible
to
get
a
breakdown
on
the
cost
per
square,
foot
of
construction
and
or
I
know?
There
was
a
lease
option
as
well.
What
the
city's
cost
per
square
foot
would
be
for
construction
as
well
as
if
we
were
to
purchase
it
and
then
what
the
city's
cost
per
square
foot
would
be
in
a
leasing
scenario.
E
Oh
just
a
suggestion,
because
I
I'd
like
for
Eric,
to
share
this
presentation
with
all
of
the
other
council
members
as
well,
who
haven't
seen
it
if
you
could
send
that
on
out,
but
maybe
follow
up.
You
know
by
the
end
of
the
week
with
the
information
from
Jason
about
the
timing
and
the
the
financial
numbers
for
each
option,
maybe
as
a
separate
thing.
So
we
can
go
ahead
and
at
least
get
the
the
show
that
you
decides
that
you
just
presented
to
them.
A
And
I
would
maybe
also
suggest
and
y'all
shout
me
down
if
you
don't
think
this
is
a
good
idea,
but
just
in
the
interest
of
heading
into
next
week
we
also
sort
of
have
a
summary
in
there.
That's
going
out
to
all
council
members
about
how
this
exactly
works
from
a
public-private
perspective,
I
mean
I.
Think
what
Jason
just
alluded
to
about
the
city's
portion.
C
H
A
A
H
They
all
are
residents
except
for
item
number.
Three
and
item
number.
Seven
item
number
three
1349
Ashley,
Hall
Road.
This
is
a
commercial
property,
that's
going
to
be
a
Landscape
Architect's
office,
no
major
Renovations
or
use
changes
and
then
item
number
seven
3338,
Maybank
Highway
is
another
commercial
property
that
looks
to
continue.
Commercial
use
and
staff
does
not
foresee
any
controversy
controversy
with
either
of
these
items
or
d10
single-family
homes,
not
even
in
council
member
waring's
district.
A
A
The
last
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
executive
session
to
receive
legal
advice,
and
this
is
in
connection
with
2125
Ashley
River
Road
can
I
entertain
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session.
Legal
advice
on
this
matter
moved
and
properly
seconded
any
discussion
hearing.
None
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
yeah
any
opposed.