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From YouTube: JI Creek Task Force
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JI Creek Task Force
A
Good
afternoon
mayor
woolsey,
I'm
I'm
asking
if
you
got
the
word
is
not
going
to
be
with
us
this
afternoon.
B
A
Yes,
I'll
be
happy
to
mayor.
Tuckenberg
gave
me
a
heads
up
that
that
might
be
the
case,
so
I'm
happy
to
take
over
and
I
I
do
feel
like
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
informative,
but
probably
not
too
long.
So
thanks
very
much.
A
Right,
good,
you
are
the
dynamic
duo
all
right,
so
I
will
open
up
our
task
force
meeting
greetings
everyone
on
the
james
island,
water,
creek,
water
quality
task
force,
and
our
our
last
few
months
or
last
few
times,
rather
than
go
around
our
whole
screen,
because
we
could
take
a
lot
of
quality
time
doing
that,
and
I
think
one
day
when
we
can
all
meet
in
person,
we
really
should
make
that
opportunity,
because
we
know
each
other
by
you
know
maybe
voice
or
screen,
but
certainly
not
in
terms
of
how
we
all
fit
together.
A
A
Okay
well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
we're
all
a
bunch
of
familiar
cronies
now
so
we're
I'm
gonna
go
right
into
working
group
updates,
because
we
appreciate
that.
That's
where
the
boots
on
the
ground
has
been
hanging
out
and
taking
care
of
the
mission
and
the
overall
work
plan
that
we've
worked
out
iteratively
over
the
last
year,
so
ashley
callahan.
Would
you
like
to
go
first
to
talk
about
what
the
technical
work
group
has
been
up
to
since
we
last
met.
C
Yes,
well,
we
haven't,
we
haven't
formally
met
since
our
last
meeting,
but
certainly
work
has
been
done
on
the
back
end,
so
I
would
just
like
to
defer
to
either
chris
wanamaker
or
matt
to
go
over.
What's
been
done,
great.
D
Sure
so,
we've
gotten
a
signed
agree.
We
all
three
now
have
a
monitoring
plan
in
place
submitted
to
d
heck
and
we
have
a
scope
that
we've
all
agreed
on
and
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
that
signed
on
with
wolpert
to
start
monitoring
in
june
and
that'll
be
a
whole
year
of
monitoring
and
really
it'll
be
four
more
years
of
monitoring.
But
this
is
for
the
first
year
sampling
each
month,
dry,
weather,
wet
weather
and
some
options
for
mst
and
we'll
go
from
there.
D
We
could
just
gather
some
data
right,
and
so
we
still
have
feet
on
the
ground
from
our
own
staff,
from
the
idd
from
the
illicit
side,
but
welcome
to
take
any
phone
calls
from
anybody
that
sees
anything
that
seems
out
of
place
either
it's
ssos
or
even
septics,
or
anything
that
is
adding
to
pollution
to
the
creek.
They
should
call
our
hotline,
they
can
call
dhak,
they
can
call
the
city
we
all
communicate
on
that
they
can
also
call
the
town,
and
so
we
will
be
investigating
and
keeping
all
of
our
data
together.
D
A
That's
great
that
the
agreement
is
now
underway.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
If
you
don't
have
the
document
in
front
of
you
or
you
know,
haven't
really
memorized
it,
but
can
you
just
give
us
a
little?
You
know
in
an
in
a
nutshell
like
how
many
samplings
are
going
to
be
done
in
any
one
month
or
a
week
or,
however,
you're
thinking
about
it
and
what
will
be
the
scope?
Just
you
know
in.
E
I
hear
you
hey,
this
is
brett
and
looking
through
the
scope.
Now
we
we're
basically
for
for
compliance.
We
need
to
have
the
wet
weather
testing
in
each
season
so
that
we
we're
doing
that
as
a
minimum.
We're
also
doing
dry
weather
testing
each
month
and
we've
also
from
getting
everyone's
approval
to
do
additional
dry
sampling
at
additional
locations
that
we
talked
about
earlier
on,
gmail
drive
and
in
other
locations
as
availability
is
and
access
is,
is
determined.
So
we've
got
a
really
robust
plan.
E
Like
chris
said,
we've
even
got
a
allocation
for
mst.
If
we
need
that
over
and
above
what
charleston
water
keepers
may
do
with
cws,
so
it's
it's.
It's
it's
well
over
what
we
need
to
do
for
minimal
compliance.
As
far
as
the
number
of
samples
like
it's
hard
to
know,
because
each
storm
they'll
try
to
get
three
to
four
samples
per
storm
event
and
then
in
dry
weather,
it
may
be
two
to
two
to
four
samples.
E
So
it's
there's
a
lot
and-
and
I
can
send
that
scope
to
everyone-
I
think
I
sent
it
to
everyone.
I
just
didn't
get
much
feedback
so,
but.
F
E
E
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
learning
curve
for
the
first
few
months
that
wooper
will
be
going
through
and
that's
probably
going
to
help
us
more
in
those
headwaters
of
jim
isle
or
those
other
designated
areas,
but
that's
going
to
be,
and
it
might
be
the
next
day
that
we
see
the
salinity
drop
and
those
those
bacteria
increase.
So
those
are
the
area.
Those
are
the
timing.
That's
the
timing
of
the
wet
weather
that
we'll
be
aiming
for
we're
going
to
get
inflated
numbers,
and
we
know
that.
E
E
You
need
like
four
to
seven
days
of
dry
weather
and
then
you
need
to
have
a
wet
weather
event
of
over
0.25
inches
of
rain
to
sufficiently
have
enough
runoff
to
to
justify
that
that
wet
weather
event
and
so
whooper.
They
they
keep
really
good
eye
on
the
weather.
They
they
know
and
anticipate
and
they
gear
up,
but
they've
also
have
to
have
the
samples
back
to
the
lab
by.
I
don't
know
two
or
three
o'clock
that
afternoon
to
get
sampled,
so
the
dry.
E
Weather,
I'm
sorry
microbial
source
tracking,
so
that
is
when
we're
trying
to
find
out
whether
this
is
either
either
dog,
human,
bird
or
remnant.
So
that
helps
it
categorize
and
to
seeing
what's
really
the
who's.
The
culprit
out
there,
whether
it
be
septic
tanks,
whether
it
be
bird,
a
lot
of
it's
background
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
and
in
wando
tmdl
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
background
bacteria.
A
And
just
to
brief
everybody
that
wasn't
around
on
the
committee
when
cws
charleston
water
system,
I
think
we
should
try
to
avoid
a
lot
of
acronyms
while
we're
on
this
meeting
because
we're
our
work,
our
goal
is
to
get
you
know,
regular
everyday
citizens
to
pay
attention
to
what
we're
all
trying
to
accomplish.
So,
if
mayor
woolsey,
hadn't
asked
what
was
the
mst,
that
was
one
of
my
next
questions,
but
charleston
water
system
contributed
that
allows
us
to
do
that
extra.
A
What
I
think
of
is
dna
testing
in
terms
of
determining
a
type
of
polluter
that
is
bringing
it
into
the
creek
right,
so
correct,
yeah.
A
E
No
everything
is
in
line
like
chris
said
all
the
mousse
are
in
place
and
we're
ready
to
get
started.
It
might
happen
even
before
june.
We
just
need
to
start
by
june,
so.
F
Yeah
and
brett-
I
guess
I
just
had
you-
did
a
good
job
covering
it.
You
know
this
for
us,
this
is
kind
of
the
the
build
up
from
the
technical
side
of
where
we
start
to
be
able
to
implement
kind
of
all
the
follow-on
processes
right,
because
the
dry
weather
shows
us
the
ba
and
certainly
the
water
keeper
in
this
watershed
has
done
a
lot
of
this
work
for
us
already,
which
has
been
helpful
to
get
us
set
up.
So
I
don't
want
to
ignore
that.
F
But
this
gives
us
our
dry
weather
screening
to
get
a
sense
of
what
is
normally
look
like.
Then
you
have
these
wet
weather
events
to
see
what
happens
during
rainstorms
microbial
source
tracking
lets.
You
try
to
figure
out
what
are
the
sources
and
then
you
basically
now
that
you
have
data.
You
can
start
saying:
okay,
what
do
we
need
to
be
doing
to
reduce
the
contaminant
load
coming
into
the
waterway?
F
So
it's
the
it's
kind
of
laying
the
groundwork
and
then,
once
you
start
taking
those
actions,
it
gives
you
the
baseline
to
track
what
are
the
changes?
So
it's
that
kind
of
measure
what
you
want
to
improve
approach
right,
that
this
gives
us
the
measurement
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
target
our
efforts.
A
Maybe
we
should
make
it
clear,
andrew
that
this
is
not
going
to
take
over
the
the
service
that
you
all,
that
water
keeper
provides
to
users
of
the
creek
when
you're,
when
you're
giving
your
seasonal
steam
alerts.
D
G
Correct
yeah,
I
think
you
know
the
sampling
that
we've
been
talking
about
here
is
all
required
by
the
tmdl,
which
is
a
little
different
than
what
we're
doing
in
our
in
our
weekly
sampling
during
you
know,
may,
through
october.
A
Okay,
well
it
all,
it
all
is
necessary
to
keep
people
aware
of
you
know
what
what
the
creek
is
and
isn't
for
their
own
safety
and
enjoyment
so
very
much
anything
else
from
the
technical
work
group.
F
And
just
a
very
brief
clarification,
I
mean
andrew's
right
that
we're
doing
this
as
part
of
the
team
deal.
Many
of
the
samples
were
taken
are
well
above
and
beyond,
what's
required
by
the
absolute
minimum
of
a
tmdl
program,
but
he's
right
that
the
services
he
provides
are
even
another
step
above
and
beyond
that
in
a
lot
of
ways.
So
just
as
a
we
are,
we
are
going
above
and
beyond
the
absolute
minimums,
we're
just
making
sure
we're
also
hitting
all
those
regulatory
minimums
as
well.
C
H
I'm
so
sorry-
and
this
is
going
to
be
off
topic,
but
I
am
in
the
middle
of
a
very
important
mediation
dealing
with
the
jail
case
that
we're
all
hearing
about
now.
H
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you,
though,
that
I've
already
made
senate
finance
know
that
I'm
going
to
be
coming
and
asking
for
some
of
the
extra
2
billion
that
we're
going
to
be
getting
in
the
fall,
and
we
already
know
that
sewer
and
wastewater
projects
can
be
encompassed
they're
going
to
change
it
in
fact
that
they
did
think
they
in
check.
H
They've
changed
some
things
today
that
will
allow
governments
to
spend
the
federal
money
on
other
things
so,
but
they
they
do
already
know
that
I'm
going
to
be
coming
in
with
an
ask
for
ellis
creek.
So
I'm
gonna
need
somebody
to
give
me
something
that
I
can
support,
whether
it's
whatever
the
engineers
have
estimated
the
cost
of
cleanup
will
be
what
whatever
that
y'all
want
me
to
ask.
I
need
something
supported
with
the
dollar
figures
and
I'll,
get
that
in
okay.
A
I
I
All
of
the
estimates
from
the
engineers,
as
far
as
getting
the
everybody
off
of
septic
and
onto
sewer.
H
That's
that's
a
good
idea,
so
anything
like
that.
Any
any
type
of
cost
like
that,
I
know
y'all
also
were
going
to
have
some
costs,
putting
some
type
of
caps
in
to
keep
the
storm
water
from
getting
down
into
the
wastewater.
H
A
G
That
would
be
me
and
I
don't
have
an
update
at
this
time.
We
we
haven't
met
in
several
months,
and
so
there
is
no
update.
A
J
No
hey
everybody.
One
thing
I
was
just
about
to
put
into
the
chat
if
y'all
are
familiar.
The
lake
kiwi
source
water
protection
team
is
in
the
process
of
replacing
septic
tanks,
so
that
might
be
helpful
as
a
as
a
comp.
Potentially
I
know,
dave
was
saying
about
pulling
some
information
together
and
I'm
happy
to
connect
the
dots
there.
If
that's
helpful,
the
only
thing
I
was
going
to
say
I
don't
know
if
it
was
it's
going
to
come
up
already,
but
the
living
shorelines
regulations
is
set
to.
J
I
don't
have
spencer's
in
here,
but
it's
it's
spec
set
to
go
into
effect
at
the
end
of
the
month,
which
is
going
to
be
great.
I
don't
know
how
much
we'll
see
that
along
the
james
island
creek,
but
you
know
now:
private
citizens
will
have
that
opportunity
to
go
through
the
permitting
process
to
install
living
shoreline
as
opposed
to
a
bulkhead
and
riprap
to
stabilize
their
shoreline.
J
So
we
clemson
extension
received
some
funding
from
dhec
to
create
a
living
shoreline's
website
to
basically
educate
people
on
the
different
materials
and
costs,
and
all
that,
and
that
is
in
conjunction
working
very
closely
with
some
key
partners:
dnr
the
nature,
conservancy
ccl,
coastal
conservation
league
and
some
some
community
partners
and
using
the
research
from
those
entities,
particularly
dnr
and
and
tnc
from
the
past
five
years,
that
really
informed
that
process
so
kudos
to
everybody
who
was
involved
with
that,
but
moving
forward.
J
The
reason
that
that
clemson's
kind
of
getting
involved
on
this,
this
kind
of
next
side
of
it
is
we'll
be
tasked
with
doing
creating
some
contractor
trainings,
because,
basically
we're
going
to
see
a
new
niche
industry
come
out
of.
This
are
people
who
will
be
working
below
the
critical
line
to
install
things
like
oyster
reefs
and
plant
spartina,
and
do
other
things
like
that.
So
thought.
It
would
be
pertinent
to
this
group
for
an
update
on
that,
because
it's
it's
very
timely.
J
We're
planning
for
it
to
launch
in
june
so
I'll
make
sure
to
to
share
that
when
we
have
it.
A
K
All
right,
thank
you,
chairman
woman
jackson.
Our
policy
subcommittee
hasn't
met
since
february,
but
we've
had
some
informal
conversations
with
some
of
the
partners
and
stakeholders
here,
and
I
guess
that
we
ought
to
talk
about
the
319
grant.
This
is
probably
a
good
opportunity
for
that.
K
You
know
andrew
did
an
awesome
job
kind
of
teeing
that
up
for
us,
but
unfortunately-
and
you
know
unfortunately,
given
the
the
details
of
how
this
grant
process
works,
we
would
have
had
to
pull
together
an
enormous
amount
of
information
and
get
approvals
from
all
the
various
governmental
entities
by
the
end
of
this
month,
and-
and
you
know,
we-
you
know
carol
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
mayor
and
matt
fountain
and
we
the
goal
that
meeting
was
to
figure
out.
K
You
know
is
this
something
we
could
do
and
pull
together
in
time,
and
the
bottom
line
is,
is
that
you
know
we
didn't
feel
that
it
was
possible
under
the
circumstances,
and
we
didn't
want
to
rush
this.
We
didn't
want
to
make
it.
You
know
we
want
to
give
it
our
best
shot.
We
know
dhec,
you
know,
has
a
has
an
interest
in
doing
a
project
for
us
down
here,
but
we
got
to
get
our
act
together.
K
We
want
to
do
it
the
right
way,
and
so
the
city
of
charleston
is
committed
to
it.
We're
committed
to
you
know,
chipping
in
resources,
but
like
a
lot
of
things
on
james
island,
we
all
got
to
get
together
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
coordinate
all
this
with
all
the
various
cooks
in
the
kitchen
here.
So
that's
where
the
319
matter
stands.
If
I've
missed
anything.
Andrew
carol,
please
jump
in.
A
I'm
going
to
call
on
council
council
member
honeycutt,
if,
if
you
have
an
update
for
us
on
the
we
call
it
sort
of
the
last
hope
of
being
able
to
apply
for,
and
maybe
we
should
back
up
a
little
bit,
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
the
one
andrew.
Could
you
give
a
thumbnail
summary
of
what
the
what
the
d
heck
opportunity
is
and
what
what
we
would
have,
what
we
can
be
proposing
if
we,
if
we
could
get
things
organized.
G
You
know
maintenance
and
that
sort
of
thing,
in
addition
to
funding,
to
run
two
kind
of
targeted
educational
campaigns
focused
on
one
and
focused
on
septic
tank
homeowners
and
or
excuse
me,
homeowners
with
septic
tanks
about
proper
operation
maintenance,
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
a
general
one
targeted
to
folks
in
the
watershed
to
help
them
understand.
G
You
know
how
they
were
oriented
towards
james
island
creek
and
how
their
daily
actions
might
impact
the
health
of
the
creek,
and
so
those
are
the
three
things
in
there.
There
was,
you
know
a
total
total
total
amount
of
200
120
of
that
had
to
come
from
match
and
80
of
it
would
be
new
money
through
dhec.
The
issue
there
is
that
dhec
requires
a
40-60
ratio
for
for
matching
funds,
and
so
those
matching
funds
can
come
from
a
lot
of
different
sources.
G
There's
some
nuance
to
that
that
I
don't
fully
understand,
but
I
think
can
be
pretty
easily
untangled,
so
that
was
the
in
a
nutshell.
I
think
the
the
ask
around
the
three
or
the
ask
in
the
pre-proposal
you
know
we
could
that
could
be
updated
or
that
could
be
kind
of
changed
or
refined
in
the
final
proposal.
A
So
I
I
so
I
want
to
call
on
council
member
honeycutt
just
set
that
stage
after
we
determined
that
we
really
didn't
have
the
bandwidth
to
turn
around
a
more
fully
or
you
know,
full
proposal
to
meet
the
dhak
guidelines
and
also
we'd
have
to
have
you
know
comprehensive
set
of
memos
of
agreement
that
would
agree
to
pool
or
match
resources,
whether
they
be
staffing
or
in
any
other
in-kind
and
or
cash.
So
so
that's
when
we
heard
and
the
county
has
the
opportunity
to
maybe
take
this
on
as
a
singular
program.
L
I
put
andrew
in
touch
with
christine
durant,
who
runs
our
community
programs
and
she
is
already
operating
there's
already
a
program
for
septic
improvements.
Unfortunately,
the
type
of
improvement
that
was
paid
for
by
the
319
is
not
the
one
we
do
currently
and
then
there
was
the
question
of.
Can
we
can
we
rush
the
match
situation
with
federal
dollars?
And
the
answer
was
no.
You
cannot
match
with
federal
dollars.
L
It
has
to
be
local
dollars,
so
that
sort
of
created
a
wall
for
us,
because
again
we
couldn't
get
all
those
mo
us
in
place,
and
so
at
this
point,
christine
is
looking
into
how
our
current
or
existing
program
that
upgrades
and
sort
of
obviously
doesn't
take
the
the
over
to
the
septic
over
to
sewer,
which
we
really
want
to
see,
but
making
it
healthier
people
that
aren't
getting
their
their
septic
checked
in
for
years
and
years.
So
that
program
exists.
L
We
feel
like
at
least
preliminarily
that
she
can
run
that
program
in
in
our
existing
operation
of
what
we
have
if
we
can
get
the
resources
pooled,
but
if
andrew
doesn't
have
anything
to
elaborate
on
getting
all
that
stuff
together
by
the
end
of
the
month.
My
my
guess
is:
it'll
be
next
year.
G
I
I
think,
I
think
that's
accurate,
so
christina
and
I
have
been
playing
email
tag
trying
to
nail
down
the
time
to
get
together.
We
haven't
successfully
done
it.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
first
thing
you
know
early
next
week,
so
we'll
have
some
a
little
bit
more
clarity
about
that.
But-
and
hopefully
you
know,
if
not,
if
you
know
there
is
an
opportunity
to
pull
it
together,
this
time
you
know
great.
L
A
Oh,
I
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
encouraging
elements
about
about
potentially
the
county
being
able
to
do
this,
or
at
least
take
take
a
significant
lead
whenever,
if
it
can
be
this
year
great,
but
next
year
is,
is
that
the
county's
program
works
with
income
eligible
residents
citizens.
A
So
we
would
really
be
serving
the
people
that
when,
when
and
if
we
decide
that
we're
gonna,
you
know
start
to
have
some
sort
of
regulations
that
are
gonna
convert
over
to
sewer
sewer
in
the
future,
we'll
be
we'll
be
priming
the
right
people
that
really
need
the
help
you
know
from
from
all
of
us
to
the
best
extent
that
we
can
provide
it.
So
I
I
really
love
that
part.
A
Great
okay,
thanks
a
lot
for
joining
us.
I
know
it's
a
unexpected
busy
day
for
all
of
us.
Okay,
I
know
that
part
of
the
policy
working
group
responsibility
was
to
get
this
watershed
management
plan.
So
we
sort
of
skipped
over
that
topic
and
jumping
right
into
the
319
grant.
So
let's
go
back
and
report
to
the
full
task
force.
What
the
watershed
management
plan
is
turning
out
to
so.
G
The
watershed
will
the
vessel
from
from
terracon,
submitted
the
final
draft
of
the
watershed
plan
to
dhec
today
for
review.
I
think
it
circulated
to
the
group
a
little
earlier.
I
know
he
gotten
some
feedback
that
was
helpful,
had
been
working
with
andy
miller,
who's,
the
watershed
coordinator
from
dhec
on
refining
some
of
the
bmps,
and
so
that
plan
went
in
for
final
approval
today.
So
that's
some
good
news
right.
A
G
Yeah
I
mean
essentially
dhec
was
encouraging
us
to
throw
in
a
whole
menu
of
bmps
whether
we
thought
that
they
could
be
implemented
in
you
know,
five
years
in
one
year
and
ten
years,
the
idea
is
just
to
have
them
on
paper,
so
that
they're
there
that
you
know
they've
been
kind
of
at
least
identified,
as
you
know,
potentially
being
something
that
we
might
want
to
do
down
the
road.
So
those
things
can
be
anything
from.
G
Sorry,
I'm
sorry
to
your
point
about
acronyms
right,
so
it's
a
best
management
practice,
and
that
would
be
any
kind
of
some.
It
can
be
anything
from
an
educational
campaign
to
hard
infrastructure
and
anything
in
between,
and
you
know,
obviously,
a
range
of
costs,
a
range
of
costs
as
well.
So
the
idea
is
just
to
have
a
menu
of
those
types
of
activities
and
projects
that
will
help
improve
water
quality
when
they're
implemented
and
functioning
properly.
G
The
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
about
the
plan
is
that
it,
you
know
it's
not
one
of
these
things,
that's
set
in
stone,
it's
something
that
we'd
be
able
to
update
over
time.
So
you
know,
as
additional
bmps
or
additional
projects
became
available
or
became.
N
And
carol,
if
we
wanted
will,
if
we
wanted,
will
beasley
too
for
will
obviously
from
terracon.
You
know
they
donated
that
plan
to
the
task
force's
efforts
and
he
would
be
more
than
happy
to
briefly
present
its
contents.
If
that
was
of
interest
or
useful.
Just
so
folks
know,
I
think
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
the
best
watershed
plan
in
the
state
for
james
allen,
creed.
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
all
of
that
you
know,
is
very
encouraging
to
people
who
only
see
one
little
piece
of
of
what
can
be
possible.
So
the
fact
that
now
we
have
you
know
the
cadillac
options
and
we
will
be
able
to
pick
and
choose,
and
I
do
think
that
you
know
it's
already
happening
right
now,
but
there's
a
lot
more
resources
for
funding.
You
know
things
like
this,
that
that
involve
the
variety
of
environmental
impact,
improvements
that
every
community
wants
to
make.
G
Councilwoman
and
patrick,
thank
you
for
for
mentioning
that
I
will
will
had
a
conflict
and
couldn't
be
here
to
talk
about
the
plan
today,
but
it
would
have
been
nice
nice
for
that
to
be
able
he
wasn't
able
to
be
here.
But
I
I
do
think
that
patrick's
going
to
be
more
than
willing
to
do
a
presentation
for
us.
B
You
know
public
and
in
fact,
as
we
have
more
material
related
to
this
task
force
in
this
project,
we
should
have
a
sort
of
an
online
presence
and
that
things
like
this
plan
that
we've
developed
and
actually
the
original
cfdl
study
yeah.
You
know
we
can
put
that
up
there
and
perhaps
the
committee
on
public
outreach.
A
I
agree
I
mean
that
is
what
our
citizen
engagement
is
supposed
to
be
and
yeah,
but
beyond
that,
if
we're
you
know
down
the
road,
if
we're
going
to
create
some
ongoing
effort
to
find
resources,
then
that
could
be
a
another
group
that
we
put
together
once
we
know
what
what
what
you
know,
the
full
sort
of
progression
of
options
can
possibly
be
so
it
sounds
very
encouraging.
Thank
you
very
much
to
terracon.
A
Okay,
well,
we've
sort
of
moved
on
we've
been
skipping
around
with
our
working
groups
into
the
old
business
items
that
we
had
listed
here.
So
is
there
anything
else
about
the
watershed
or
the
work
that
was
done
for
for
the
319
that
you
want
us
to
know
of
andrew
or
patrick?
M
M
We
appreciate
having
this
call
again
today.
Basically,
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
share
with
the
larger
group
the
data
that
we
have
received
from
the
initial
source,
tracking
microbial
source
tracking
mini
study.
If
you
will
that
charleston
waller
had
agreed
to
fund-
and
we
appreciate
andrew
wonderly
working
with
us,
he
was
the
transportation
for
us
to
get
out
there,
and
this
was
done
back.
M
Please
let
us
know
if
you
can't
see
it
and
following
today's
meeting,
if
you're
interested,
we
can
certainly
send
this
to
everyone
by
email.
So
you'll
have
this
this
data
as
well.
It's
pretty
interesting.
I
think
we
are
hoping
to
do
another
sampling
right,
andrew
sometime
in
the
next
few
weeks.
Typically.
G
Yeah,
we're
hoping
excuse
me,
I
was
gonna,
say
we're
hoping
to
get
that
scheduled
for
early
next
week
or
early
the
following
week.
M
Okay,
great
so
we'll
have
another
set
of
microbial
source
tracking
data,
hopefully,
for
you
in
the
next
task
force
meeting,
I
would
think
we
could
get
it
that
quickly,
but
we
found
some
interesting
information.
I
don't
want
to
steal
any
of
mars
thunder,
but
I
would
just
caution
everyone
to
be
careful
not
to
draw
too
many
definitive
conclusions
on
one
data
set.
M
Obviously
it's
some
interesting
information.
Some
of
it
was
expected.
Some
of
it
was
a
little
bit
surprising
to
us,
but
it's
just
one
data
set
and
we
need
a
good
bit
more
and,
as
I
said,
we've
got
a
second
sampling
schedule
whenever
andrew
is
is
ready
for
us
to
accompany
him
and
his
group
again
and
we'll
go
back
out
there.
M
It
sounds
like
before
the
end
of
the
month,
so
without
any
further
ado,
if
we
could
share
your
screen,
more
he's
got
just
two
slides
and
I
think
you'll
find
this
data
relatively
interesting.
O
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
carol.
Do
you
have
control
from
the
house.
C
O
Go
all
right:
everybody
see
that
okay,
yes,
sir,
all
right,
as
ken
said,
we
we
went
with
andrew
on
march
5th
and
collected
samples
at
the
james
island,
creek,
1
and
james
island
creek
2
locations
that
have
been
typically
monitored
by
charleston
waterkeeper,
and
we
added
one
simpson:
creek
won
based
on
its
location
in
proximity
to,
I
guess
the
highest
concentration
of
septic
tanks.
We
wanted
to
kind
of.
I
guess,
see
what
we
would
find
there
as
well.
O
O
As
ken
said,
this
was
on
an
ebbing
tide
after
a
significant
rainfall
event.
Over
a
couple
of
days,
I
think-
and
so
it's
it
this
gives
it
gave
us-
gave
us
a
snapshot
there
of
what
the
runoff
might
be
contributing
and
just
to
note
that
all
three
of
the
inner
row-
samples
in
this
in
this
particular
event,
were
below
the
south
carolina
water
quality
standard
for
water-based
recreational
activity.
That's
104,
most
probable
number
per
100
milliliters.
O
The
dna
markers
that
we
used
for
this
sampling
event
were
human
bird
and
dog,
and
I
will
note
that,
if
just
as
a,
I
guess,
a
reference
point
for
everyone.
Raw
sewage
is
typically
between
1
million
and
100
million
copies
per
100
milliliters.
Okay,
let's
see.
O
A
O
Yep
yeah
that
good
segue
carol
here
we
go,
I'm
gonna
just
point
out.
This
map
is
one
of
the
maps
that
we
prepared
here
at
charleston
water
system,
for
the
work
group
and
for
the
the
319
grant
application.
O
You
see
here,
james
on
creek,
one
and
two
on
on
the
main
body
of
the
creek
and
on
ellis
creek.
These
are
the
sampling
points
that
are
typically
sampled
by
charleston
water,
caper
and
here's
simpson,
creek
one
or
sc
one
that
we
added
to
the
to
the
battery
well
to
the
battery
of
tests
and
sample
locations.
O
Those
collection
of
septic
tanks
are
are
in
this
area
back
here.
O
So
what
we
found
there,
it
said
we'll
just
run
down
the
list
at
james
island
creek,
one,
the
interrow
concentration
was
at
43.2,
most
probable
number
per
100,
and
of
that
the
dna
for
human
dog
and
bird
you
see
there.
The
human
was
the
highest
in
in
the
of
the
collection
there
and
the
highest
of
all.
O
The
samples
that
were
collected
that
day
for
human
bird
was
at
630
and
then
the
dog,
the
dnq
was
did
not
quantify
because
it
was
so
the
so
low
in
the
in
the
sample,
wow
so
and
then
at
james
island
creek
2.
You
see
we
were
at
not
almost
91,
most
probable
number
per
100
and.
O
And
then
the
dna
samples
for
human
bird
and
dog
were
982
and
605
and
then
did
not
quantify
and
then
at
simpson
creek
one.
O
We
were
at
62,
most
probable
number
for
in
a
row
and
then
the
dna
was
at
213
2130
and
530
for
human
and
bird
respectively
and
dog
again
did
not
quantify
so.
That
kind
of
gives
you,
I
guess,
a
flavor
of
what
what
was
out.
There
is
just
a
snapshot
and
kind
of
paints,
a
picture
of
the
bird's,
pretty
consistent
kind
of
rules
out
the
the
the
dog
kennel
over
there
by
folly
road,
because
we
didn't
do.
We
didn't
pick
that
up
anywhere.
O
So
it
gives
us
an
indicator
that
there
is
a
higher
concentration,
at
least
from
in
this
set
of
samples,
a
higher
concentration
of
human
dna
in
the
samples
than
anything
else
that
we
that
we
monitored
for
or
or
tested
for.
So
it's,
like,
I
say,
just
a
snapshot,
but
it
does
give
an
indicator
there
that
we
might
be
seeing
some
some
septic
tank
run
off
into
the
creek
from
from
those
drain
fields
or
failed
or
failed
septic
tanks.
O
Of
rain
right
right,
but
I
will
point
out
that
when
you
look
at
it's
highly
dilute,
you
can
see
it's
obviously
very
highly
dilute.
And
when
you
compare
that
with
the
the
benchmark,
I
gave
you
earlier
for
raw
sewage,
so
we're
several
orders
of
magnitude
less
than
than
raw
sewage.
But
nonetheless
we
see
a
higher
concentration
of
human
dna
there
than
anything
else
that
we
tested
for.
N
O
N
This
is
fascinating
information.
I
just
have
an
uninformed
citizen
question.
I've
always
heard
it
said
that
that
human
waste
can
make
it
will
make
you
sicker
right
and
that's
why
it's
more
of
a
concern
and
that's
why
everybody
starts
with
the
septe
tanks.
N
You
know-
and
so
you
know,
I've
always
heard
dog
waste
gives
you
earaches
and
human
waste
gives
you
tummy
aches.
Is
that
something
that
bears
out
or
is
that
just
an
old
wives
tale?
I.
O
Think
waste
is
waste
when
you're
talking
about
enero
and
it's
just
like.
If
you
were
to
go
to
a
stream
that
was
contaminated
with
animal
feces
or
in
a
row
that
was
their
source
and
and
drank
that
water.
You
would
be
just
as
sick.
N
O
Well,
I
mean
that
I
think
the
bird
the
idea
of
the
bird
was,
let's
just
see
what
the
the
natural
inhabitants
of
the
marsh
area
are
contributing
to
it,
and
and
obviously
that's.
It
was
pretty
consistent
where
we
sampled.
So
we
don't
see
that
as
being
a
a
major
factor
but
just
to
get.
I
think
it
just
gives
us
a
a
a
picture
of
what
might
be
there
naturally
and
then
what
might
not
be
there
naturally.
So.
M
And
obviously
the
sampling
that
chris
talked
about
earlier
over
a
longer
period
of
time
over
all
the
seasons
of
the
year
over
a
lot
of
different
rainfall,
events,
etc,
etc.
I'm
going
to
paint
a
much
bigger
picture
right,
much
broader
picture
that,
as
mark
mentioned,
this
is
a
snapshot
in
time
on
a
given
moment
in
time,
and
so
just
be
a
little
careful
to
you
know,
draw
too
many
conclusions,
but
but
based
on
what
we're
seeing
them,
there's
one
little
tiny
snapshot,
one
little
slice
of
the
pie.
M
M
Looking
at
and
amazingly,
I
guess
amazingly
to
me
because
of
that
large
rain
that
we
had
had,
I
don't
know
if
y'all
remember
that
time
of
the
year,
but
I
think
that
it
rained
for
two
or
three
consecutive
days
straight,
so
it
wasn't
just
a
shower.
It
was
a
large
rain
event.
M
I
would
have
assumed
this
was
a
surprising
part
to
me.
I
would
assume
that
the
stream
james,
concrete
based
on
the
history
that
that
I'm
aware
of,
would
not
have
met
the
stream
standard
for
the
104,
but
but
the
highest.
As
you
see
there
was
james,
concrete
2,
which
is
at
90.9
now
that's
close
to
104,
statistically,
but
on
the
day
we
sampled
james
island
creek
actually
was
within
the
south
carolina
water
quality
standard
for
interval.
M
True
time
of
year,
exactly
so
again,
please
don't
put
too
much
stock
on
what
we
found,
but
preliminary
indications
are
that
there's
some
human
inputs
into
this,
and
as
again
I
mentioned
we'd
like
to
do
our
second
set
of
sampling,
the
weather's
warmer.
M
Now
you
know
whenever
it
works
for
andrew,
we
are
all
geared
up
to
accommodate
him
again
or
accompany
him
again,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
that
data
turned
around
real
quickly,
so
that
on
the
next
task
force
call
we
can
give
you
another
update
and
then
maybe
start
doing
a
little
crew.
You
know
data
analysis
for
you
going
forward.
A
I
think
this
is
fabulous.
Thank
you
very
much
for
you
know
making
it
this
much
of
a
reliable
reporting
structure
and-
and
you
know,
assuring
us
that
it's
going
to
continue
to
broaden
and
widen.
But
let's
just
you
know,
look
talk
thinking
about
what
senator
sun
just
challenged
us
to
help
her
with
when
she
had
to
get
off
the
call.
A
If
we
only
had
one
opportunity
to
make
a
case
that
if
she's
going
to
go
for
sewer,
you
know
hookups
as
an
infrastructure
improvement
to
our
part
of
james
island
that
that
this
is
the
story.
That
is,
you
know
a
thousand
words
right
here
on
this
map
and
with
the
chart
that
you
all
have
just
done
so
on
one
hand,
it
seems
like
okay,
it's
the
big
ticket
item.
We're
gonna
have
to
find
all
the
money
and
you
know
take
the
time
to
do
it.
A
But
somebody
said
about
the
birds:
we
can't
control
them
and
we
can
we
do
with
our
with
our
sewer
service.
So
I
I
I
I'm
very
encouraged.
I
think
it
could
really
be
a
and
this
this
could
be
the
kind
of
thing
that
she
could
take
right
now
and
put
in
front
of
her
colleagues,
no
matter
whenever
it
is
she's
got
to
make
her
case
for
getting
part
of
that
a
big
part
of
that
money.
A
So
is
there
anything
more
that
we
need
to
talk
about
in
terms
of
who's,
going
to
take
the
lead
on
getting
the
senator
what
she
which
she
can
best
use
to
make
the
case?
Can
we
have
this
right.
P
A
Yeah,
that
is
really
fabulous
honestly
and
we
need
to
you
know
that
should
be
part
of
the
background
that
we
can
put
in
front
of
the
senator
so
that
she
isn't
being
challenged
that.
Well,
how
do
you
even
know?
You
know
that
it
is
septics
that
would
where
getting
rid
of
septics
would
would
make
the
most
radical
improvement
to
the
state
required
tmdl
right
I
mean
we're
we're
we're
at
the
mercy
of
what
the
state
is
requiring
us
and
not
that
we
don't
want
to
improve
things
for
ourselves,
but
this
is.
A
I
A
yeah
I
have
preliminary
estimates
from
the
engineer.
Obviously
this
is
not
you
know,
designed
and
engineered,
but
a
rough
basis
on
a
you
know:
cost
per
foot
as
far
as
the
the
infrastructure
and
the
hookups
and
everything
like
that
right.
A
O
Carol
does
do
you
think
she
needs
that
a
copy
of
this
presentation
to
help
support
that
we
can
send
it
to
her
if
you'd
like.
A
G
I
think
you
know
thanks
to
thanks
to
dave
and
from
from
the
pse
and
and
mark
and
ken
for,
for
all
that
I
think
you
know
arming
sandy
with
that
information
is
going
to
be
critical.
I
would
add
too,
that
you
know
we.
We
know
that
that
concentration
there
around
simpson
creek
is
is
mostly,
I
think,
in
the
town,
there's
that
other
concentration
around
the
james
island,
creek
2
site-
that's
not
quite
as
dense,
but
you
know
still
I
mean
knowing
the
history
of
that
site
and
some
of
the
bacteria
numbers
we
get
out.
G
There
obviously
still
is
still
a
concern.
You
know,
have
we
untangled
or
do
we
have
kind
of
a
similar?
You
know
kind
of
a
similar
breakdown
of
what
it
might
cost
to
do.
Some
infrastructure
upgrades
in
that
area
to
get
people
connected,
or
at
least
have
the
opportunity
to
connect
people
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
if
that's
I
don't
know
if
that's
city,
county
town
or
you
know
who's
whose
kind
of
jurisdiction
that
is
or
whether
it's,
whether
it's
charleston
water
system
or
psd,
up
in
that
area,.
B
B
B
A
All
right:
well,
let's,
let's
maybe
dave
when
you
send
stuff
to
the
to
the
senator
you
can
you
can
send
it
around
to
the
whole
task
force
again,
we've
been
a
evolving
group,
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
anybody
out
that
you
know.
B
A
A
If,
if
anyone
did
not
read
her
newsletter,
I
think
it
was
the
may
3rd,
because
that
was
the
first
time
that
a
lot
of
the
budgeting
line
items
were
being
brought
forward
on
the
senate
floor
essentially-
and
I
think
that's
what
opened
her
eyes
that
she
was
being
way
too
conservative
in
what
she
was
asking
for
on
behalf
of
her.
You
know
her
territory
and
then
that
combined
with
the
infrastructure
award
that
is
coming
down
through
the
federal
government
in
two
chunks.
That's
where
she's
going
to
use
her
persuasive
attributes.
A
We
should
we
should
like
make
some
little
banners
that
we
can
flip
around
the
state
house
while
she's
going
for
it.
I
don't
know
how
what
the
process
is
for
the
infrastructure
discussion,
but
we
can
ask
her
and
and
to
send
us.
You
know
who
who
is
going
to
have
to
bless
and
put
it
forward
the
the
different
budgets
that
all
the
senators
are
going
to
be
asked
to
weigh
in
on.
A
One:
okay,
I'm
talking
to
myself
anybody
else
have
anything
else.
We
need
to
be
getting
out
on
the
screen
in
the
table
today,
any
other
new
business
that
was
new
business
from
the
senator
any
other
topics
that
we
haven't
touched
on.
A
It's
it's
very
impressive.
I
love
this
sort
of
segmenting
of
of
responsibilities,
because
that
means
that
the
right
people
are
doing
the
right
stuff
and,
and
then
we
all
just
get
to
you
know
appreciate
what's
going
on
in
between
our
our
overall
task
force
meeting.
So
thanks
for
all
of
that
and
the
details
that
were
worked
on,
I
would
love
to
have
tara
khan
come
and
give
us
a
a
a
good
report
and
get
the
accolades
that
they
certainly
deserve.