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City of Charleston Committee on Ways and Means 4/26/22
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B
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A
C
What's
different
today
than
two
three
four
five
years
ago.
Is
that
five
years
ago,
four
years
ago,
three
years
ago
and
two
years
ago,
that
was
a
festival
that
was
produced
and
centered
in
the
city
of
charleston
over
the
course
of
time
they
have
moved
to
north
charleston,
and
I
went
back
and
looked
today
to
see
how
much
we
have
funded
just
in
the
last
five
years,
recognizing
the
two
of
those
years.
20
and
21
were
limited
budget
years
because
of
covet
in
2017
150
000.
C
In
2018
150
000
in
2019,
140
000,
on
top
of
that,
we
gave
them
arpa
money
of
37
500.
The
total
in
five
years
that
we've
doled
out
to
the
wine
and
food
festival
was
515
000
and
in
response
to
that,
they've
moved
their
operations
to
north
charleston.
Now
clearly,
there's
some
benefit
to
those
in
the
industry
around
the
city
of
charleston.
C
That
line
of
food
is
still
here
and
in
the
region
it
is
still
called
the
charleston
wine
and
food
festival.
Although
it
is
centered
in
north
charleston,
they
clearly
do.
I
imagine,
put
heads
in
beds,
which
is
really
what
this
money
is
to
be
used
for,
is
to
give
back
into
the
industry
and
in
the
community
to
advertise
to
get
people
to
charleston.
We
haven't
had
any
shortage
problem
with
that
by
the
way,
but,
let's
think
about
that,
a
a
festival
that
is
now
centered.
C
C
So
it's
a
long
way
for
me
saying
and
by
the
way
my
understanding
is
that
they
have
signed
a
three-year
contract
with
north
joelson
and
are
paying
for
the
privilege
of
having
their
event
there.
So
if
we
put
some
monies
in
their
coffers,
we're
essentially
just
sending
up
to
north
charleston,
we
love
our
neighbors
in
north
charleston,
but
I
don't
think
funding
festivals
up.
C
There
is
one
of
the
missions
that
we
have
around
this
table
at
city
council
when
we
have
precious
few
dollars
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
doing.
Would
we
love
to
see
them
come
back
downtown
sure?
Should
we
have
a
conversation
about
that?
You
bet.
We
certainly
should,
but
in
the
meantime,
to
be
funding
them
to
the
tune
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
all
due
respect,
I
think,
is
an
overpayment.
C
I
don't
think
it's
consistent
with
the
spirit
of
what
we're
doing
here
with
these
accommodations
taxes,
and
I
don't
think
at
this
point-
I'm
not
gonna
vote
for
it,
and
I
would
suggest
that
to
be
a
conversation
on
this
table
about
what,
if
anything
goes
to
wine
and
food
and
what
we
should
do
in
the
future
about
that,
but
just
blanket
giving
them
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It's
just
not
for
me
the
right
thing
to
do
today
and
I'm
not
gonna
vote
for
that.
D
Thank
you,
councilman.
Thank
you
chairman.
I
agree
councilman
seeking
100.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
facts
are
out
there.
They
did
move
the
festival
to
north
charleston.
There
were
still
a
large
majority
of
events
downtown,
and
I
get
that
but
you're
absolutely
right.
You
know
that
that
any
argument
that
there
was
a
boom
here
influx
of
tourists.
D
Your
data
suggests
that
that's
not
the
case.
I
think
we
should
rethink
this
for
next
year.
I
don't
know
if
they
did
sign
a
lease,
but
hopefully
we
can
revisit
the
other
thing
that
they
did
share
with
me.
That
I
think,
is
important
as
part
of
this
dishonest
conversation
is.
They
were
having
issues
with
the
space
several
years
and
folks
that
manage
that
space
told
them
that
they
have
no
certain
terms
that
they
were
going
to
allow
them
to
to
be
there.
D
So
I
think
the
city,
if
we
want
them
here,
we
need
to
figure
out
an
additional
alternate
location
for
for
that
moving
forward,
but
I
agree
mike
like
I'm
not
sure
why
we
would
dole
this
out,
but
I
do
have
other
concerns
about
this
list,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
get
to
that
I'll.
Ask
that
question
afterward,
but
if
we're
just
talking
about
food
and
wine
fest
now's
the
time.
Well,
I
guess
for
folks
at
home
that
are
listening
and
want
to
understand
how
this
process
works.
D
One
of
the
concerns
was
this
was
a
zoom
another
zoom
meeting.
So
my
question
is:
when
are
we
going
to
get
back
to
in-person
meetings,
particularly
for
these
types
of
things
where
non-profit
organizations
and
community
organizations
can
come
and
ask
questions,
I
believe
someone
from
food
and
wine
festival
was
on
that
call,
but
couldn't
get
in.
I
was
having
difficult
technical
issues
trying
to
voice
their
their
concerns
or
answers.
Some
of
the
questions
that
were
being
raised.
So
that's
question.
D
D
Anyone
can
apply
yes,
so
when
I
look
when
I
look
down
this
list,
I
see
many
organizations
here
in
charleston
that
receive
money
from
us
that
our
community
organizations,
but
I
do
think
that
they
they
are
not
hurting
for
financial
dollars
and
then
I
look
at
the
little
country,
children's
museum
and
they're
at
the
tune
of
65
000..
There's
there's
no
other
organizations
on
here
that
are
focused
on
youth
and
education
issues
and
I
think
that
something
as
a
city
we
should
be
looking
at.
D
E
Chairman
and
councilmember
seeking
brothers
to
my
attention
the
other
day,
and
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
as
well
on
on
this,
and
I
looked
at
their
website
as
to
what
events
they
had
planned
and
what
did
them
say
have
planned
for
the
future
on
this
and
he's
absolutely
right
that
they've
moved
out
of
the
city
of
charleston
and
gone
to
north
charleston.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
some
of
the
things
that
councilmember
seeking
has
brought
up.
Had
we
charged
him
for
anything
that
they
needed?
E
Did
we
did
the
city
of
charleston
charge
them
for
use
of
any
spaces
or
rent
something
similar
to
what
they're
paying
up
in
north
charleston?
If
we
take
away
this
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
reduce
it,
can
we
reallocate
that
money
to
other
projects?
Yes
going
down
the
list,
and
you
know
the
charleston
black
expo
was
only
getting
25
000.
How
much
did
they
request
and
can
we
allocate
some
of
the
money
to
them
or
to
the
charleston
museum,
and
I
think
that.
E
E
They
do
bring
a
large
amount
of
benefit,
but
if
we're
going
to
spend
our
the
money,
that's
allocated
to
us
to
promote
for
things
that
this
money
was
designed
to
promote
it
needs
to
stay
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
if
they're
gonna
they're
gonna,
they
made
it
a
conscious
decision
to
leave
the
city.
That's
fine!
Let
north
johnston
fund
them
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
thought
it
would
be
good
for
maybe
some
of
the
newer
members
of
council
to
know
the
relationship
between
the
city
and
the
gibbs
museum.
We
have
50
owners
on
that.
I
think
some
of
the
newly
elected
people
may
or
may
not
have
known
that.
So
I
think
obviously
we
should
we
have
a
vested
interest
in
them
being
successful,
and
I
agree
with
councilman
seekings
and
my
colleagues
on
this.
G
I
certainly
appreciate
the
comments
made
by
speaking
about
the
main
stage,
so
to
speak,
being
moved
to
north
charleston.
I
I
did
attend
an
event
of
charleston
wine
and
food
at
gatsboro
park
across
from
the
international
african-american
museum,
and
they
purposefully
chose
to
have
it
there.
It
was
a
gospel
brunch
and
the
hope
was
they
would
continue
a
relationship
with
our
museum.
G
You
know,
we've
we've
been
funding
this
at
a
higher
level
for
a
number
of
years,
as
pointed
out,
and
and-
and
I
don't
view
it
as
as
a
black
and
white
kind
of
thing-
there's
a
gray
in
between
they
did
have
some
issues
about
marion
square
honestly
and
I
think
that's
part
of
what
what
led
to
their
decision
to
put
the
main
stage
so
to
speak
up
in
north
charleston.
They
kept
a
number
of
events
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
and
promoted
through
association,
a
number
of
our
restaurants
here.
G
So
I
I
would
respectfully
say,
even
if,
if
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
y'all
y'all
cut
it
at
the
committee
level
and
and
apparently
had
a
discussion
there,
and
if
you
want
to
cut
it
a
little
more.
That's
that's
fine,
but
I
I
think
we
ought
to
stay
in
the
game
with
them
see
what
happens
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
They're
still
going
to
be
in
both
cities,
and
that's
just
my
respectful
opinion.
C
C
If
we're
going
to
be
investing
a
whole
bunch
of
money
with
them,
is
it
going
to
be
the
charleston
wine
and
food
festival
and
and
centered
in
charleston
I
mean
they're
trading
off
the
most
valuable
mark
that
south
carolina
owns
charleston
and
you
know,
and
then
to
put
money
on
top
of
that
and
have
them
turn
around
and
spend
that
money
in
north
charleston.
It
just
doesn't
sit
well
with
me
and
I
suspect,
around
this
table
doesn't
either
so
sure
we
should
keep
in
the
game
with
them.
C
My
understanding
is-
and
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
them
this
week-
that
they've
got
a
three-year
contract
with
north
charleston,
so
they're
only
one
year
into
it.
There's
no
transportation
plan
currently
for
moving
people
back
and
forth,
so
we
should
stay
engaged
with
them,
but
I
think,
mr
mayor,
one
of
the
engagements
not
necessarily
sending
them
a
check.
It's
having
an
open
and
honest
conversation
about
with
them
about
how
we
are
going
to
manage
the
monies
that
flow
out
there
to
entities
that
are
moving
to
other
places.
C
C
E
A
E
A
A
C
If
they
want
to
be
coming
back,
then
we've
got
some
room
to
move.
One
of
the
things
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
take
this
money
whatever
it
is
that
we
don't
approve,
there's
already
50
000.
It
was
built
in
that
was
taken
back
from
the
a
tax
committee
and
not
redistribute
it,
but
put
it
in
an
account.
We're
going
to
do
this
again.
C
My
understanding
is
in
the
fall
because
we're
on
an
accelerated
basis
because
we're
catching
up
and
let's
spend
between
now
and
the
fall
speaking
with
them,
and
if
there's
good
reason
or
purpose
to
put
this
money
back
towards
them
or
put
it
somewhere
else.
We
can
do
that.
Let's
just
freeze
it
for
now,
so
my
motion
would
be
to
nothing
for
now.
Take
that
money
put
it
in
an
account.
Let
amy
do
her
good
work
with
with
it
and
then
come
and
revisit
it
when
the
application
process
opens
back
up
again
in
october
or
november.
A
A
G
C
G
D
D
A
B
A
C
G
F
F
The
motion
is
going
to
pass,
but
I
mean:
can
you
all
come
up
front
and
have
you
all
been
to
the
museum?
Lately,
anybody
just
the
outside
just
happened
to
be
that
saturday.
It
is
absolutely
stunning
from
the
landscape,
obviously
to
the
inside
and
they've
been
going
they've
been
going
up.
I
love
your
photo
up
here.
H
Mayor
riley
has
been
absolutely
instrumental.
He
has
acted
as
our
client
in
capital
projects
for
the
entire
duration.
I
think
those
who
are
close
to
me
on
this
project
have
known
that
I've
worked
on
it
since
2014
under
a
previous
administration,
he's
been
a
fantastic
client,
along
with
everyone
else
that
he's
brought
on
his
team.
H
Bob
faust
is
with.
We
could
not
build
this
project
in
capital
projects
alone.
It's
too
large.
It's
too
complex
coming
was
fantastic.
They
did
really
the
heavy
lifting
on
this
project
and
we
just
kind
of
looked
good
in
the
process
here.
So
I
want
to
thank
both
bob
faust
and
and
mayor
o'reilly,
for
for
all
your
support
in
making
this
happen,
and
on
friday,
we
actually
secured
our
tco
for
the
third
floor
of
the
building,
which
is
a
monumental
achievement.
H
F
F
H
E
Mr
chairman,
this
just
went
before
they
leave.
There's
one
comment:
I
I
was
with
councilmember
waring
and
I,
and
I
think
it
was
back
then
councilmember
choppo
took
a
tour
of
the
facility
and
when
one
of
the
most
amazing
parts
of
that
tour-
and
I
just
commented
this
mayor
riley-
is
that
they
have
uncovered
the
facility,
the
building
in
which
those
who
were
enslaved.
E
Exact
footprint
of
this
building
and,
quite
frankly,
it's
a
chilling
experience
when
you
go
there,
and
I
know
that
they're
highlighting
that
part
of
it,
and
I
hope
that
when
folks
make
that
visit
their
initial
visit,
that
they
are
shepherded
towards
that
location.
So
I
think
it
sets
the
tone
for
what
the
museum
is
there
for
and
what
it's
going
to
do.
E
This
is
going
to
have
such
a
compelling
impact
on
us
as
citizens
of
charleston
and
to
the
visitors
that
come
to
come
out
there,
and
I
just
I'm
glad
that
we
took
a
pause
and
thank
you
councilmember,
we're
in
seeking
for
for
doing
that.
But
I
think
it's
just
worth
noting
what
this
is
going
to
mean
to
the
city
for
generations
to
come.
The.
A
C
C
It's
just
it
just
shows
you
what
an
incredible
space
a
fire
station
is
they're
there
to
keep
us
protected,
but
they're
incredible
ambassadors
for
our
city
and
when
I
went
by
on
sunday
morning
it
was
like
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
that's
in
the
accommodations
overlay
zones,
those
people
coming
in
and
out
all
the
time
there
were
people
with
roller
boards,
people
locals
getting
breakfast
coffee
talking
with
the
firefighters
it
was
just.
It
was
so
good
to
see,
and
now
in
a
brand
new
facility
or
a
brand
new
fixed
up
facility.
A
A
I
E
I
just
want
to
comment
about
the
item.
A
on
the
90
day
extension.
We
have
eric
coleman,
west
ashley
project
managers
with
us,
and
our
partners
with
landmark
are
here
and
we
hear
from
them
later
on
in
the
committee
council
report.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
a
couple
of
things
that
this
90-day
delay
is
not
a
delay
in
the
work
that
they
are
doing.
They
are
scheduled
to
go
before
the
design
review
board
at
the
main
meeting,
which
I
think
will
be
one
of
the
first
in-person
meetings.
G
G
We
approved
moving
forward
with
the
lake
dotterer
connection
under
the
glenn
mcconnell
freeway
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
few
sessions.
We
we
approved
partnership
reaffirmed
our
partnership
with
charleston
water
service,
where
they
will
spend
about
two
million
dollars
to
help
with
our
2.7
million
on
our
low
battery
seawall
project.
G
We
set
the
paradigm
for
how
we're
going
to
operate
a
facility
to
continue
to
help
those
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
city,
and
we
we
came
up
with
some
additional
funding
to
help
create
55
new
units
of
affordable
housing
that
went
by
in
about
30
minutes.
I'd,
say:
that's
pretty
good
day's
work,
mr
chairman
and
council.
Thank
you.