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everybody
wants
to
take
a
look
at
this,
we
can
actually
approve
it
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
In
case
you
want
to
cross-check.
We
did
note
that
in
March
in
November
we'll
be
meeting
on
the
first
Tuesday
of
the
month
at
noon,
the
rooms
might
vary,
but
first
Tuesday
of
the
month
at
noon
on
a
regular
basis.
B
B
But
also
noted
that
March
in
November
our
election
days
and
we
might
have
to
adjust
those
meetings
as
needed
for
that
and
then
no
meetings
in
July
and
August.
So
take
a
look
at
that,
as
you
have
a
chance
and
we
can
approve
that
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
want
it
to
miss
Charles
or
anything.
You
want
to
go
over
with
agenda
wise
before
we
talk
about
the
referral
from
the
mayor.
D
Sure,
good
good
morning,
chairman
Eggleston
vice
chair
Mitchell
and
members
of
the
safe
community,
a
committee
we
do
have
an
exciting
agenda
for
you
today,
staff
will,
after
the
referral
from
the
mayor,
is
discussed.
A
staff
will
review
briefly
the
framework
for
the
the
evidence
based
framework
presentation
that
was
done
earlier
to
reduce
violence
and
then,
after
that,
willie
Ratchford
will
lead
us
and
facilitators
through
through
a
discussion
to
get
us
to
the
60-day
point
and
and
come
up
with
a
plan
for
the
group.
D
B
You
so
everybody's
got
in
front
of
them
as
well.
Policy
topic
referral
the
city
council
committee.
You
usually
read
things
that
you're
looking
at,
but
I
will
in
this
case
we
make
sure
all
of
our
guests
are
able
to
hear
this
as
well.
On
january,
6th
to
our
committee
mayor,
vile
isles,
sent
this
referral
description
background
charles
one
of
the
fastest-growing
cities
in
the
nation,
currently
16th,
most
populated
city
in
the
country.
2019
homicide
counts
in
charlotte,
with
a
highest
since
93.
B
Don't
don't
don't
mix
lives
here
as
much
Johns
Hopkins
University
Center
for
government
excellence,
cross-departmental
team
was
formed
to
use
research
and
data
to
inform
violence
reduction
strategy
in
currently
multiple
strategies
in
progress,
including
county,
led
efforts
to
share
information
and
practices
around
violent
reduction.
Health
director
gibby
harris
provided
a
community
violence
overview
to
the
Board
of
County
Commissioners,
defining
violence
as
a
public
health
concern
and
recommended
the
development
of
a
community-wide
comprehensive
strategy
to
address
all
forms
of
violence
policy.
B
Question
that
we're
being
asked
is:
how
is
the
city
ensure
that
strategies
and
programs
reduce
violence
and
our
charges
that
we
should
establish
an
evidence-based
framework
to
reduce
violence
in
our
community
with
an
assessment
of
current
city
programs,
as
well
as
programs
and
benchmark
cities?
This
is
the
first
step
towards
a
strategic
process
in
the
time
frame
for
developing
this
framework
is
60
days.
So
essentially,
between
today's
meeting,
where
the
goal
is
going
to
be
to
kind
of
level
set,
we've
got
some
folks
who
are
new
to
council.
B
We've
got
a
lot
of
us
that
are
are
new
to
this
committee
and
obviously
this
committee
was
just
recently
re-established
as
a
standalone
committee.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
starting
on
the
same
page,
but
the
goal
between
this
meeting
and
then
for
us
to
complete
at
our
February
meeting,
which
is
only
I
guess
about
two
weeks
away,
would
be
to
establish
this
framework,
the
framework
being.
Essentially,
what
do
we
want
to
measure,
and
how
do
we
want
to
measure
it
and
from
there
we'll
determine
beyond
that?
B
What
strategies
we
have
that
work,
which
ones
we
have
that?
Don't
and
what
other
cities
are
doing
that
me,
we
might
want
to
replicate
or
if
there's
things,
that
we're
doing
that
we
want
to
expand.
But
we
want
to
know
what
our
end
objectives
are
first
and
then
work
backwards
to
determine
how
how
do
we
get
there,
so
the
framework
will
be
that
that
what
are
we?
B
C
I
Appreciate
it
I've
been
told
to
keep
it
to
a
minute
and
a
half
so
90
seconds
time
starts
now.
No
briefly,
I
think
this
is
a
tremendous
opportunity.
We've
been
talking
about
all
year.
Hearing
about
the
violence
in
particularly
the
homicides,
but
violent
crime
was
up
as
well
and
I
think
if
we
really
want
to
wrap
our
hands
around
it
and
have
I'm
not
gonna,
need
that
but
and
and
I
have
a
long
term
solution.
I
Now's
the
time
back
in
1993
I
remember
when
we
were
worried
about
the
homicide
rate
then
and
I
also
remember,
there
are
a
lot
of
strategies
that
were
discussed,
but
I
also
know
know
in
2019,
based
on
what
we
saw,
then
they
weren't
maintained.
I
would
hope
that
page
11
is
our
God
and
from
page
11
not
really
to
get
ahead,
but
I
like
to
keep
things
as
concise
as
possible.
That's
the
building
blocks
and
it's
the
foundation
of
what
we're
trying
to
build
long
term.
I
Everything
that
I
see
on
page
11
resonates
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
strategically
from
an
evidence-based
approach
that
we
do
not
just
for
2020
but
for
the
next
ten
years
and
I'm
serious
about
that.
If
we're
consisted
in
investing
and
holding
each
other
accountable
around
those
outcomes
and
the
outcomes
are
pretty
pretty
consistent.
I
In
my
mind,
I
measure,
anybody
that
I
work
with
around
whether
or
not
young
people
are
reading
into
a
math
on
grade
level,
whether
or
not
you
impact
the
attendance
rate,
meaning
if
you're
in
school
you're
learning,
if
you're,
not,
obviously,
if
you're
not
in
school,
you're,
not
learning
and
then
the
other
piece
is
reducing
behavioral
issues
so
that
we
can,
lastly
prevent
crime.
It's
just
that
simple.
I
Every
community
organization
that's
doing
work
with
us,
that's
how
we
measure
them
and
we
see
results
fantastic
results
in
one
semester
at
Mountain,
Island
elementary
school,
one
of
our
community
organizations
increased
the
grades
by
40%
and
those
in
that
cohort
reduced
attendance
issues
absenteeism
by
about
30%
about
a
third
and
when
I
went
out
to
the
graduation.
It
was
the
most
excited
I've
seen
young
people
in
school.
In
a
long
time
now
we'll
get
excited
for
sporting
events,
but
this
is
about
academics
and
achievement.
I
That's
the
long-term
vision,
that's
what
I
think
page
11
is
the
basis
for
we
do
need
your
guidance
around.
What's
missing
there
and
whether
or
not
we're
on
track
I
can
tell
you,
based
on
the
outcomes
I've
seen,
especially
over
the
last
two
years,
with
the
organizations
that
get
it
right.
It
pays
dividends.
We're
not
worried
about
the
homicide
rate,
we're
talking
about
lives
that
have
been
saved.
B
B
I
But
I'll
tell
you:
is
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
what
we
prevent?
That's
what
I
mean?
Yes,
the
homicide
rate,
everybody
talks
about
it
and
I
think
relative
to
where
we
compare
across
the
country
we're
still
in
decent
shape.
But
it's
not
what
we
want.
It's
not
satisfactory
to
us,
but
I
will
tell
you.
We
don't
worry
about
what
we
prevent,
because
that's
a
success.
People
still
alive,
there's
what
we
should
count,
and
this
I
think
is
the
foundation
of
how
we
get
there.
B
B
A
B
J
Councilmember
Egleston
said
we're
just
doing
the
highlight
reel:
I'm
gonna
move
through
the
slides
pretty
quickly.
This
is
to
review
key
points
from
the
presentation
that
was
given
at
the
strategy
session,
especially
as
it
relates
to
the
program's
the
review
that
we
did
of
evidence-based
programs
of
the
city's
programs
and
best
practices
from
some
cities
around
the
country,
because
it's
that
review
that
really
got
us
to
those
potential
building
blocks
that
you
all
will
be
talking
about.
K
So
I'm
not
gonna,
recap
all
of
these
key
pieces,
but
I
think
the
key
thing
to
think
about
here
is
that,
as
we
talk
about
page
11
and
the
building
blocks,
that
we're
looking
at
a
comprehensive
approach
and
that
violence
is
recognized
as
a
public
health
issue,
and
that
means
that
we're
talking
about
exposure
to
a
variety
of
risk
factors.
So
how
are
we
going
to
look
at
addressing
those
things?
K
Some
of
the
other
key
pieces
to
remember
is
that
this
work
is
being
done
not
only
here
with
you
guys,
the
City
Council,
but
these
conversations
are
happening
with
other
community
partners
with
the
county,
and
so
this
timing
right
now
to
have
an
integrated
approach
to
really
thinking
about
violence.
The
public
health
issue
is,
it
is
spot
on,
and
so,
as
we
recap
some
of
these
key
points,
this
is
really
about
how
we
think
collaboratively
holistically,
much
more
bigger
picture
than
only
policing
but
policing,
obviously
being
a
very
important
component.
J
There's
a
lot
to
unpack
on
this
slide.
I
think
a
council
member
Johnson
gave
gave
a
really
good
summary
of
it
in
our
your
discussion
at
the
strategy
session
is
this
is
when
you
think
about
a
public
health
approach
and
understanding
risk
factors.
This
is
all
about
trauma,
so
its
exposure
to
different
kinds
of
trauma
at
different
levels
and
and
then
building
resilience
in
children
and
families
and
in
communities
is,
is
a
part
of
the
approach
to
violence
reduction.
J
So
when
we
took
a
look
at
what
was
happening
across
the
country,
we
looked
at
evidence-based
programs,
we
looked
at
peer
city
practices
and
we
looked
at
what
Charlotte's
doing
and
how
it
relates
to
those
things.
There
are
many
specific,
evidence-based
programs
for
violence
reduction.
When
we
looked
at
what's
happening
here
in
Charlotte
Mecklenburg,
we
really
identified
this
kind
of
violence
interruption
program
as
a
model
that
was
a
potential
gap
in
Charlotte.
J
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
youth
prevention
programs
are
are
here
in
the
community,
a
lot
of
justice
and
VOAD
intervention
programs
that
particularly
the
county,
manages
those
practices.
We
have
evidence-based
policing
strategies,
but
a
lot
of
cities
across
the
country
are
implementing
balance,
interruption,
programs
and
that
is
an
evidence-based
model.
So
we've
identified
that
as
a
potential
gap.
J
We
also
looked
just
at
best
practices
across
the
nation,
understanding
that
today's
innovation
may
be
tomorrow's
evidence-based
program
that
the
you
don't
you
don't
want
to
just
stick
with.
What's
evidence-based,
although
it's
a
great
start,
you
can
also
look
at
what
are
the
components
of
an
evidence-based
program,
and
how
might
you
implement
those
in
a
new
context
to
to
create
a
best
practice,
and
then
the
question
is:
how
do
you
evaluate
that
so
that
it
becomes
evidence-based
across
the
country?
J
What
we're
seeing
is
those
practices
include
broad
collaborative
partnerships,
true
community
voice
and
agency,
the
use
of
data
and
evidence,
youth
engagement,
strong
police,
community
relations,
focus
on
systemic
issues
and
root
causes.
So
we
can
think
back
to
those
multi-level
risk.
Factors
are
really
thinking
about
systemic
issues
and
root,
causes
Public
Health
violence,
an
eruption
program
and,
of
course,
community.
Well
we're
in
a
great
place
right
now,
with
a
lot
of
attention
being
paid
and
a
lot
of
groups.
Thinking
about
how
can
we
work
together
to
reduce
violence?
This.
C
J
And,
of
course,
there's
there's
plenty
of
other
places
to
look
at.
What
we
were
doing
with
with
that
scan
was
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
places
that
we're,
where
they're,
having
great
success
like
Oakland,
for
example,
to
understand,
what's
happening
there
and
then
in
some
places
where
you,
wouldn't
you
don't
think
of
them
as
being
cities
that
are
having
great
success.
J
But
we
can
see
that
they're
having
success
in
kind
of
narrowly
focused
areas
like
Chicago,
with
particular
neighborhoods,
for
example,
and
so
trying
to
turn
to
do
a
general
scan,
there's
lots
of
other
cities
and
that
we
can
take
a
look
at.
But
this
also
incorporates
the
the
research
that's
been
done
by
entities
who
already
have
scanned
and
said
we
see
these
as
best
practices,
for
example
the
report
that
the
mayor
shared
at
the
strategy
session.
J
And
then
we
started
the
skin
of
how?
What
are
we
doing
here
in
Charlotte?
What
kind
of
specific
programs
and
strategies
are
we
implementing
both
that
are
directly
focused
on
violence
reduction
and
also
those
that
are
indirectly
focused
on
violence
reduction,
meaning
that
they
may
have
an
opportunity
to
impact
violence
reduction,
but
they
have
a
different
primary
goal.
J
That
was
our
initial
scan.
This
provides
both
some
information
on
where,
where
we
already
have
an
evidence
base
where
there
might
be
some
gaps,
but
also
just
a
way
to
think
broadly
about
the
different
kinds
of
programs
that
the
city
implements,
that
could
be
layered
and
work
together
and
through
those
building
blocks.
J
K
If
we,
if
we
outline
them
from
the
research
that
we
did,
we
did
identify
that
a
violence
interruption
model
could
be
a
gap,
so
that's
one
of
the
other
key
takeaways,
but
ultimately,
that
information
sharing
data
sharing
and
collaboration
is
is
critical
to
all
of
this
work,
not
only
within
our
own
departments
but
between
agencies
and
organizations.
So
we
do
intend
to
continue
this
conversation
about
how
we
greater
collaborate
and
I'm
sure
that
you
will
continue
that
conversation
as
well.
That's
how
we
will
be
more
sustainable.
I
I
It
does
say
yes,
there's
just
an
Astra
talking
about
it's
a
local
evaluation.
Unc
Charlotte
has
been
a
part
of
our
work
here.
We
haven't
had
a
external
partner
come
out
beyond
that,
because
ninety
percent
of
the
people
who
engage
in
those
programs
don't
commit
further
crop,
which
is
a
goal.
I
told
you
the
four
things
that
we
look
at,
that
is
the
big
one.
So
what
we
know
is
we're
changing
behavior
we're
increasing
people's
likelihood
for
success
in
elementary
school
up
through
high
school
and
we're
preventing
crime.
I
F
B
Wrestled
with
the
language
on
that
and
I
didn't
really
it's
a
bit
ambiguous,
okay
and-
and
so
I
agree
with
you
that
it's
and
I'm
interested
to
hear
y'all's
take
on
it
again.
But
I
pushed
back
on
this
some
and
said
well,
what
does
what
does
something
have
to
be
to
be
a
best
practice
or
what
is
the
level
of
validation
that
or
study
that
has
to
be
done
on
something
for
it
to
be
evidence-based
and
I?
B
F
I
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand
if
we
are
investing
in
programs
right
based
on
best
practices,
that
is
it
really
helping
us
move
needle
in
the
right
direction
right
or
are
there
any
other
programs
that
we
have
not
tapped
into
because
of
resources
that
are
limited?
What
could
lead
us
to
evidence
based
and
help
us
move
needle
in
the
right
direction?
So.
J
You
have
a
couple
of
options
when
it
comes
when
it
comes
to
them,
so
an
evidence-based
program
is
actually
a
very
specific
kind
of
program.
It
is.
It
is
one
that
has
been
regular,
rigorously
evaluated
in
multiple
settings,
with
no
peer
review
of
the
methodology
and
shown
to
be
effective,
and
it
has-
and
it's
a
structured
implementation
that
you
can
take
from
one
place
to
another.
J
It
doesn't
mean
you
would
have
to
do
every
every
piece
of
it
the
same
way
you
can
adapt
based
on
local
context
but
there,
but
it
is
a
structured
program
and
so
so
to
be
evidence,
an
evidence-based
program
if
to
meet
meet
those
criteria,
and
there
are
a
number
of
clearinghouse
organizations
that
vet
all
the
evaluations
and
you
know,
identify
what
outcome
of
interest
at
the
program
applies
to
and
that's
the
the
the
previous
slide
we
talked
about.
What
are
what
are
the
range
of
evidence-based
programs
related
to
violence
reduction,
so.
I
Right,
the
septet
model
shows
that
you
go
in
and
you
evaluate
all
things
that
might
contribute
to
disorder
in
crime.
The
easiest
example
is:
if
you
have
it's
connected
to
nuisance
abatement,
you
have
one
particular
business,
that's
causing
you
a
lot
of
issues.
There
are
a
lot
of
environmental
problems
with
it.
There's
a
related
emulation
of
trash.
There's,
a
petty
crime,
that's
happening,
and
then
it
decreases
the
value
in
the
area.
I
So
what
we
do
is
comprehensively
go
in
from
an
enforcement
and
we
deal
with
the
crime,
but
we
have
other
partners,
code
enforcement
and
others
that
come
in
and
weigh
in
on
that
problem
too,
to
change
the
behavior
to
change
the
image
to
to
increase
the
value
of
the
property
in
particular
and
thus
reduce
crime
and
prevent
it
in
the
future.
That's
the
concept.
F
H
Just
wanted
to
kind
of
kind
of
clarify
what
is
our
end
goal
here,
definitely
believe.
Evidence-Based
approaches
are
necessary
and
an
integral
part,
and
so
the
grander
scheme
of
things,
but
also
fear,
fearful
that
if
we
put
all
our
eggs
into
that
basket
that
it
becomes
very
active,
you
know
it
becomes
very
to
pragmatic
in
the
sense
that
it
doesn't
give
you
ability
to
be
flexible.
It
also
also
fear
that
we
might
give
up
on
some
of
those
less
evidence-based
approaches
that
we
might
feel,
for
instance,
something
that
I've
heard
mr.
H
Mitchell,
it's
all
about
bringing
the
CIA
here
right
that
it's,
you
can't
really
measure
bringing
these
13
black
schools
to
certain
populations
and
presenting
them
with
pathways
forward.
You
know
losing
that
we
can't
necessarily
quantify
that
impact
on
a
certain
section,
but
we
know,
and
and
and
we
want
to
economically
develop
in
a
way
that
puts
those
types
of
so
will
we
abandon
those
things
based
on
or
kind
of
put
those
things
to
the
side.
Ultimately,
what
are
we
trying
to
achieve
here
in
terms
of
the
mix
of
these
two
I.
B
Would
say
from
my
vantage
point:
no
we,
this
is
not
hey,
I,
think
you
said
what
is
the
end
goal
or
we're
looking
to
achieve
and
I
think
that
is
what
today's
meeting
in
February
is
meeting.
That's
part
of
the
framework
that
we
are
being
charged
with
creating
is
the
framework
is
where
what
do
we
want
to
measure?
What
do
we
want
to
achieve
and
how
do
we
measure
it?
B
So
that's
the
question
we
posed
to
us
that
we
have
to
answer,
but
I
would
say
that
that
evidence-based
is
not
doing
mutually
exclusive
from
some
of
the
things
that
anecdotally,
we
know
are
effective
or
some
of
the
things
that
build
stronger
communities
or
build
stronger
relations
between
the
government,
the
police,
whoever
and
the
community
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
in
all
the
above
approach.
So
the
you
know
we
are
not
just
saying.
Okay
on
this
slide
number,
eight,
the
top
three
stay
and
the
rest
of
them
go.
B
I
think
we
continue
to
invest
in
those
things,
but
some
of
those,
maybe
we
haven't,
been
measuring
them
as
rigorously,
but
maybe
some
of
them.
Even
though
we
don't
saying
that
evidence-based
today,
could
they
be?
Is
there
a
way
for
us
to
measure
that
and
and
bear
out
the
results
a
little
bit
more
in
a
way
that
says,
you
know,
maybe
the
mayor's
Youth
Employment
Program
is
working,
but
how
have
we
shown
that
it's
working
and
how
can
we
measure
that
it's
working.
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
sir.
You,
you
made
my
point,
I
think
it's
both
in.
If
y'all
you
look
at
evidence-based,
then
you're
gonna
have
to
take
years
to
validate
to
verify,
and
then
the
portability
is
why
we
put
a
lot
into
evidence
based
best
practices,
though,
are
the
right
things
to
do
that
still
get
you,
those
foundational
blocks
as
outcomes.
So
if
you
know
the
last
study
says
you
can
do
three
things
and
you
got
a
92%
chance
of
escaping
poverty.
I
All
right,
you
graduate
high
school,
you
get
a
full-time
job
and
you
delay
having
kids
I
can
attest
to
that
third
one.
But
but
the
truth
is,
it
is
an
absolute
fact:
92%
our
issue
around
employment
and
everything
else
is
interconnected.
So
is
the
desire
to
fight
crime.
So
we
might
do
things
to
your
point
that
are
innovative
and
we
think
best
practice
is
the
right
thing
to
do
and
then
later
we
study
them
to
show
that
there's
evidence
base
and
can
be
portable
to
other
cities,
that's
kind
of
how
it
works.
I
B
B
You
know
and
Arrowwood
and
Nations
for
it,
and
it
might
work
really
well
and
might
say
you
know,
I
think
that
would
work
at
Sugar
Creek
in
85,
so
I
think
it's
portable
internally
to
when
we
see
something's
working
in
one
community,
and
we
see
similarities
between
that
community
and
another
where
there
are
challenges
that
we
can,
we
can
move
it
over
there
and
easily
implement
it.
Mr.
Mitchell.
C
Instead,
you
can
keep
this
slide
here,
but
I
just
want
to
make
reference
to
us
to
commit
a
memory
Council
of
Weston
under
the
youth
programs.
Councilman
Weston
I
work
with
my
brothers
keepers
and
we
have
identified
54
other
nonprofits
are
touching
african-american
men
and,
or
we
say
boys
of
color
and
so
I
do
think
staff.
We
can
give
you
that
data,
because
I
do
think
this
is
where
collaboration
our
first
box
is
so
key.
C
This
is
a
problem
all
of
us
to
have
skin
in
a
game
a
soft
and
and
secondly,
as
we
get
to
the
third
box
and
best
in
the
community
led
efforts.
Some
of
the
efforts
are
already
underway
and
I
just
think
they
just
needs.
Maybe
the
jump
stop
Michael
Graham
to
make
sure
they
can
successful
and
be
part
of
our
solution
as
well.
I.
I
Totally
agree:
I'll
tell
you
too,
I
believe
that
this
should
not
be
just
about
city
and
county
government
funding
in
any
way,
and
if
you
go
to
that
slide
that
had
the
programs
up
there,
many
of
them
have
transitioned
to
things
that
we
were
the
catalyst
as
a
city
in
funding.
Initially
now
the
envision
Academy,
the
reach
Academy
is
underway
to
being
fully
funded
by
private
funding.
So
some
of
those
programs
that
you're
talking
about
there's
an
opportunity.
I
K
G
You
know
that
I'm
new
to
council,
so
I
I,
don't
know
what
our
limits
are
as
far
as
the
committee,
but
is
there
anything
to
to
prohibit
community
partners
being
a
part
of
these
meetings?
You
talk
about
collaboration,
representation
matters,
so
if
we
bring
someone
who
has
their
boots
on
the
ground
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution,
also
intergovernmental,
we
have
committees.
If
any
issue
is
inter-government,
this
is
so
we
brought
somebody
from
the
county
or
from
CMS
and
from
the
community.
B
This
is
a
big
room
with
a
lot
of
chairs
and
we'd
love
to
have
more
of
them
filled.
We
do
think
they
have
someone
from
our
friends
at
the
county
here
today,
and
so
we've
got
plenty
of
room
and
we
can.
We
can
move
into
bigger
rooms
as
necessary,
so
I
want
more
people
here.
So
I
would
say
anybody
that
is
one
either.
It
is
either
currently
or
is
wanting
to
be
involved
in
this
work.
Invite
them
to
join
us,
invite
them
to
bring
their
expertise
occur.
Yes,.
I
Sir,
the
other
piece
of
that
ma'am
is
accountability
so
with
the
JumpStart
grants,
we're
about
to
do
fellows
and
I
think
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
then
have
them
come
in
and
report
out
to
those
measures
as
well.
So
then
there's
a
level
of
accountability
that
also
goes
down
to
the
grass
roots,
so
I
love
the
idea.
I
think
it's
fantastic,
just
navigating
the
politics
might
be
a
little
bit
more
challenging
but
I'm
sure
you're
up
to
that
too.
K
K
The
second
building
block,
which
we
mentioned
several
times,
is
potentially
identifying
that
gap
of
a
violent
interruption
program
and
looking
at
how
we
could
work
with
our
partners
to
support
the
implementation
of
that
program.
Investing
in
community
led
efforts.
So
great
example,
like
our
jumpstart
micro
grants.
How
do
we
do
that?
K
How
do
we
do
that
strategically
or
do
that
more
chief
mentioned
another
potential
program
with
fellows
in
the
community,
so
that
building
block
is
really
about
understanding
that
community
love
efforts
are
a
critical
component
of
addressing
violence
and
then
how
are
we
using
data
and
evidence
to
ensure
that
that
the
work
is
being
effective,
that
we're
measuring
it
over
time
that
were
using
it
to
redirect
components
of
our
programs
or
the
programs
that
we
support
and
then
down
below
you'll
see
some
expected
outcomes
if
we
focus
on
these
building
blocks,
and
so
these
are
just
some
of
the
potential
expected
outcomes.
K
B
A
B
Expanding
it
and
putting
more
dollars,
but
so
I
think
the
the
question
and
Angela
jump
in
is
needed
here
is:
do
we
have
do
we
have
these
right
and
do
we
is
this
comprehensive
of
all
of
what
we
think
are
the
building
blocks
for
the
framework?
I
think
the
framework
is
something
that
will
hone
in
on
in
the
February
meeting,
but
are
we
giving
staff
the
right
directive
and
saying
that
these
are
the
building
blocks?
These
are
the
outcomes.
The
contrast
on
the
screen
is
hard
there,
but
you
can
see
it
pretty
clearly.
B
G
We
want
to
have
some
intentionality
around
this
we've
already
identified
four
hotspots,
or
so
we
can
connect
those
dots
and
bring
that
information
to
this
approach.
Also,
one
of
the
evidence-based
approaches
that
we
know
works
is
peer
support
or
peer
waves.
So
that's
I
think
one
perhaps
that
organization
at
that
elementary
school
chief
might
be
working.
You
may
have
a
mentor
in
it
if
it's
the
one
I'm
thinking
I,
don't
know
if
it's,
but
you
may
have
someone.
That's
walked
in
those
shoes.
G
So
if
we
are
intentional
about
those
grassroots
organizations
and
supporting
organizations
that
are
peer
or
experienced
led,
so
not
only
is
that
best
practice,
that's
evidence-based
because
evidence
bases
are
person
approach,
so
evidence
base
shows
that
peer,
led
or
peer
support
works.
So
we
could
combine
the
two
so
I
think
they
need
to
be
in
tensional
about
the
areas
that
were
focused
on
and
also
the
investment
and
community
led
peers,
purely
efforts
chief.
I
I'd
like
to
toss
that,
actually
what
I
think
step
in
it,
so
truthfully
councilman,
what
we're
doing
is
looking
at
the
models
that
have
worked
and
having
people
with
credibility
in
those
specific
areas
that
come
in
while
we're
having
a
crisis
while
we're
having
issues
going
on
right
now,
who
can
then
start
the
conversation
with
community
members
who
are
inflamed
right
now
to
help
deescalate
a
situation,
and
then
we
follow
up
immediately
to
make
sure
we
break
up
any
potential
retaliation.
I
So
it's
it's
it's
hard
to
specifically
tell
you
scientifically
how
that
works,
because
it's
quite
organic
to
the
point
that
councilman
Woodson
was
making
and-
and
we
allow
for
that
on
both
ways,
because
you
have
credible
people
in
the
areas
already,
we
got
to
expand
that
base
to
have
more
people
do
the
work.
B
A
B
H
So
I
just
fear
that
we
as
a
council
are
gonna
look
to
myopically
at
the
program
level
when
we
need
to
be
at
all
times
focusing
on
the
higher
the
higher
level
of
approach
and
giving
staff
the
opportunity
to
work
on
the
program
level.
I,
don't
see
any
kind
of
mention
of
overall
policy
change
right.
We
know
that
crime
is
a
function
of
poverty
and
poverty
is
a
function
of
a
bad
public
policy.
H
So
maybe
it
is
something
like
just
taking,
for
example,
these
three
things
that
the
chief
put
out
there
that
we
ensure
that
at
18
you're
on
the
path
to
graduate
high
school,
get
a
job
or
go
into
the
military,
or
something
like
that.
Then
we
give
staff
the
opportunity
to
come
up
with
the
right
programs,
evidence-based
programs
or
or
or
best
practices
to
achieve
that,
but
I'm
a
fear.
If
we,
as
council
members,
don't
work
from
the
higher
level
of
what
system
we
are
trying
to
change.
E
E
We're
also
looking
at
these
building
blocks
that
have
been
provided
to
you
all
and
we
need
to
hear
from
you
all.
Are
we
merging
the
right?
Things
is.
If
you
look
at
the
outcomes,
the
expected
outcomes
at
the
bottom
of
the
page
are
those
the
right
types
of
outcomes
that
will
that
we're
looking
for
I.
E
Will
this
get
us
to
what
we
were
trying
to
try
to
get
to
so
one
thing
that
is
happening
as
a
result
of
the
conversation
is
that
it's
going
to
cause
us
I
think
as
a
community
to
think
about
looking
at
addressing
community
safety
in
a
different
way.
We
have
too
many
people
in
the
community
who
see
community
safety.
It's
just
a
job
of
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
Police
Department,
but
it
is
bigger
than
that.
E
It
is
actually
the
job
of
the
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
Community
Safety
is
the
job
the
police
department
in
the
community
actually
working
together
and
so,
and
that
is
all
aspects
of
the
community.
From
the
folks
working
at
our
buildings,
downtown's
to
inner-city
neighborhoods,
to
schools
to
churches.
It
has
to
be
a
truly
a
comprehensive
approach,
as
you
all
are
providing
suggestions
and
ideas
to
us
that
we
might
add
to
this
process.
E
A
E
C
I
think,
mr.
chairman,
so
mr.
Radford
I
think
for
me
you
touched
on
one
key
components:
community
involvement,
I
think
we
have
to
have
community
buy-in
and
on
this,
as
well
as
with
the
city,
so
I'm
excited,
we
got
increased
community
capacity
and
I
do
think
that
can
go
a
long
way.
I
do
think
the
assessment
of
city
programs
will
be
huge
for
us
because
I
think
there's.
Sometimes
we
just
get
caught
up
in
the
title
and
we
have
not
looked
at
those
programs
for
years
and
years.
C
Yes,
because
it
sounds
good
so
and
then
the
third
Rebecca
you
did
touch
on
what
other
cities
that
we
look
at
the
Oakland
in
Chicago
I
do
think
taking
those
best
practices
in
to
your
point.
What
are
they
doing
that
we
can
incorporate,
but
here's
the
big
one
for
me
and
chief,
thank
you
for
the
strategy
session.
C
You
show
the
hotspots
I
think
well,
I
like
to
see
to
its
data,
broke
down
her
age
group
and
let
us
make
sure
we
can
target
it
on
what
group
we
really
tried
to
to
reach,
because,
let's
face
it,
we
even
the
community.
We
can't
be
all
things
to
all
people,
but
if
we
could
show
success
that
we
gonna
target
those
fifteen
and
sixteen
year
old
right
now,
and
so
when
we
measures
two
or
three
years,
no
crime
in
school
employ
I.
Think
we
can
all
say
that
we
did
some
right.
C
B
I
think
mr.
Mitchell
just
outlined
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
see
us
kind
of
explicitly
list.
Among
our
expected
outcomes,
which
is
I,
think
we
need
to
have
I
mean
we
have
some
outcomes
here:
community
outcomes,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
how
comes
for
individuals
to
and
I
don't
I,
don't
see
anything
here
that
says
the
things
that
mr.
B
Mitchell
just
listed,
which
is
you
know
and
again
pick
your
target
I
think
based
on
the
data
we
have
seen,
it's
maybe
fifteen,
to
twenty
five-year-olds
somewhere
in
that
ballpark
increase
in
fifteen
to
twenty
five
year
old,
high
school
completion
rate
increase
in
fifteen
to
twenty
five-year-old
employment
rate
and
right
and
so
I
think
his
outcomes,
and
maybe
maybe
didn't
have
to
do
that
specific,
but
it
could
be
something
that
is
more
individually
focused
than
just
these
larger.
You
know:
violence
reduction,
healthier,
neighborhoods
and
agreed
on
all
those
points.
B
I
I
Added
to
that
list
into
your
point,
I
think
the
four
building
blocks
here
it
might
not
hurt
if
there
were
time
giving
specific
examples
underneath
those
that
would
would
you
spoke
of
a
couple
of
data
points
that
I
think
would
be
good
data
points
under
the
use
of
data
evidence
around
15
to
25
year
olds,
the
graduation
rate
changing
increasing
the
employment
opportunities
increasing
that
we
intentionally
measure
that
specifically
right
now.
A
lot
of
it
is
anecdotal
and
it's
not
as
evidence
base
as
we
want
it
to
be
yet.
F
So
as
we
are
doing
tore
assessments
of
all
our
programs,
we
also
to
keep
in
mind
that
there
would
be
some
programs
where
it
requires
longer
term
to
your
chief
chief,
your
point
where
we
may
not
be
able
to
assess
them.
So
that's
where
we
have
to
rely
on
best
practices,
because
if
it
requires
five
ten
years
down
the
road
to
assess
the
program,
I
don't
want
us
to
just
write
off
the
program.
If
we
can't
assess
it.
F
So
there's
got
to
be
a
combination,
combined
approach
where
we
are
looking
at
assessments,
but
at
the
same
time
we
are
looking
at
best
practices
and
not
eliminating
programs
that
could
potentially
help
and
deliver
results.
Five
years,
ten
years
down
the
road
so
I
see
it's
more
of
policy
and
programs
combined
approach
where
we
have
to
look
at
our
existing
programs,
but
also
the
policies
and-
and
this
is
going
to
require
some
sort
of
piloting
the
way.
I
look
at
this
a
pilot
phase.
F
F
K
One
thing
to
note
on
the
community
capacity
piece
with
the
jump,
also
jump
start
grant
started,
looked
at
how
it
could
even
be
expanded,
expanded
both
through
the
budgeting
process
the
second
year
around.
How
even
within
that
program
could
really
focus
on
how
you're
increasing
the
capacity
of
the
individual
organizations
to
go
out
and
seek
out
funding
from
other
sources.
J
Then
drilling
down
into
the
from
from
there
this
use
of
data
and
evidence
is
that
the
charge
would
be
to
be.
You
know
identifying
what
our
order,
what
our
interim
things
we
can
measure,
even
if
we
don't
know
yet
if
this
youth
in
a
program
is
what
what
their
outcomes
are
going
to
be
in
five
years.
What
do
you
measure?
What
do
you
measure
immediately?
What
do
you
measure
intermedia
and
what
are
you
looking
at
long-term?
So
it's
a
it's
a
granular
level
from
a
program
evaluation
lens.
We
would
map
all
of
that
out.
F
Just
to
follow
up
mr.
chairman
I
think
we
gotta
have
some
sort
of
roadmap.
Here
are
the
short-term
actions
that
we
going
to
take
right
two
three
four
months
here,
our
midterm
steps
we're
going
to
take.
That's
we
have
a
plan
and
then
long-term
plan.
That
here
is
what
we
have
to
do
two
years:
five
years
down
the
road.
So
we
we
have
some
sort
of
plan
in
place
for
addressing
violence
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
anything
like
that.
H
H
We
need
a
charge
in
terms
of
how
we
approach
this
again.
We
can
come
up
with
a
framework
to
give
see
NPD
or
housing
and
neighborhood
services,
guidance
of
how
to
use
their
budgets
and
work
with
Shawn
Corbit
sand.
The
Greg
Jackson's
and
everybody
like
that.
But
again,
we're
suisse
are
not
figuring
out
how
to
change
the
system
right.
We're
dealing
with
still
dealing
with
our
point
in
the
criminal
justice
system,
for
instance,
or
or
the
interruption
of
violence
cycle.
H
We
need
the
data,
for
instance,
from
just
the
DEA,
but
the
public
defender's
office
right
I
had
a
conversation
with
mr.
Tully,
and
he
is
saying
that
you
know
if
he
could
get
another
social
worker
in
there.
He
can
do
some
of
this
work
for
us
right
to
keep
people
from
from
from
coming
back
to
him
talking
to
the
district
attorney,
there's
no
silver
bullet
there,
but
if
we
could
advocate
to
help
change
their
the
way
they
have
to
retain
records,
you
know
and
the
way
they
can
use
more
of
those
resources.
H
When
we
talk
about
schools,
we
can't
just
talk
about
you
know,
for
instance,
what
CMS
is
gonna
do,
but
how
we
diving
down
into
those
individual
teachers,
you
know
who
know
can
bring
us
some
of
the
qualitative
evidence
you
know
about
what
can
change
in
these
areas
by
bringing
different,
different
different
entities
together
to
fix
the
park
to
fix
the
the
the
sidewalks
to
to
whatever
it
may
be
and
bringing
all
of
those
resources
together
into
those
places.
But
that's
gonna
come
from
us
talking
to
our
other
counterparts
to
change
those
systems.
B
H
If
we
don't
have
any
expectation
that
we
have
to
work
together
with
our
counterparts
where
it
just
becomes,
oh,
maybe
I,
we
should
do
this
and
take
it
off.
You
know
the
it
you
know,
because,
because
I
want
to
do
it,
you
know
for
the
folks
that
are
coming
three
councils
from
now.
They
should
be
an
expectation
that
they
have
to
work
out
systems.
B
H
E
That
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
that
we
need
it's
about
intentionality.
In
the
past,
we
we've
talked
about
the
need
to
work
with
the
county
and
other
components
in
the
community
and
to
get
our
work
done,
but
we
haven't
taken
the
next
step
and
that
it's
being
intentional
about
bringing
them
to
the
table
so
that
that's
going
to
be
a
better
also.
H
Honestly,
there's
also
a
big
difference
when
we
say
staffs:
y'all
have
to
work
together
as
opposed
to
us
as
as
as
electives
that
are
coming
together
and
making
it
again
happy
within
our
ask
us
our
systems
because
look
I'll
be
honest.
I've
been
trying
to
get
a
meeting
with
the
CMS
superintendent
and
it's
impossible
because
he's
protected
by
his
board,
so
I
need
to
go
and
we
need
to
go
and
work
to
the
board.
H
E
Councilman
I
knew
you
had
actually
question
earlier
about
the
difference
between
an
evidence-based
program
versus
our
best
practice.
An
evidence-based
program,
if,
if
thought
out
well,
has
a
universal
quality
and
SCHIP
work
in
most
communities
best
practices,
because
it
is
a
best
practice
in
and
in
Dallas
Texas
doesn't.
E
A
B
We
have
about
20
minutes
before
we're
scheduled
to
wrap
and
I
know.
People
have
stuff
on
the
backend
of
this
meeting,
so
we
want
to
be
respectful
of
your
time.
Mr.
Ashford,
where
do
you?
Where
would
you
like
to
see
us
get
to
before
and
I'd
like
to
leave
five
minutes
in,
so
we
can
approve
our
calendar
and
get
any
other
announcements
or
anything
anybody
needs
to
make.
But
where
do
you
think
for
us
to
have
an
effective
framework
conversation
on
February
4th
that
we
need
to
get
to
today
before
we
before
we're
out.
B
B
How
do
you
think,
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
clear
about
what
the
objectives
are,
how
do
you
think
we
must
clearly
can
state
some
of
what
mr.
Mitchell
outlined
around
that
the
outcome
of
measurable
outcomes
in
this
framework,
not
just
being
the
broader
community
outcomes
but
the
more
individually
tailored
outcomes
for
the
most
at-risk
people?
How
do
we
best
state
that
and
clearly
do
you
think
I
think.
J
That
individual
outcomes
would
be
collective
outcomes
that
we're
looking
for
at
the
program
level
and
then
at
the
and
and
then
you
also
have
kind
of
community
indicators
that
you're,
broadly
tracking
and
monitoring
that
you
might
say
together
as
a
community.
We're
aiming
for
these
big
goals
around.
Maybe
it's
high
school
graduation
or
some
of
the
things
that
that
would
come
out
of
our
partnerships
and
those
systemic
changes.
And
then
you
would
also
identify
measures
at
the
program
level
for
the
population.
K
B
I'm
I'm
agnostic
to
how
we
phrase
it
but
I
think
somewhere.
There
needs
to
be
that
indication
of
the
one
of
our
major
outcomes
is
we
want
to
see
increased
increase
the
metrics
on
employment
and
education
for
our
most
at-risk
individuals
in
our
community
and
if
that's
15
to
25
year
old,
african-american,
males
who
come
from
a
single-parent
family
or
whatever,
however
specific
or
broad,
we
want
to
get
I.
Think
that's
an
important
thing
to
outline
explicitly.
B
D
What
I
see
is
is
our
next
step.
If
we
have
agreement
on
the
four
blocks,
then
we
come
back
and
bring
back
what
are
those
expected
outcomes
and
the
metrics
associated
with
them
so
that
we
look
at
the
15
to
25
year
age
group,
the
high
school
employment,
all
those
things
that
were
named
earlier?
That's
an
example
of
something
we
would
do,
but
seems
like.
Staff
needs
to
do
some
work
and
maybe
come
back
with
recommendation
for
you
all
to
review.
B
G
Even
intentionally
as
a
subject
matter
expert
to
be
a
part
of
the
meeting,
maybe
not
a
voting
member
but
a
part
of
the
team
and
I
know
we
have
the
intergovernmental
tea
committee,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
affect
the
city
are
injured
governmental.
So
if
we
could
do
that,
I
just
think
that
would
be
a
good
idea.
Mr.
H
Rosen's
so
mr.
chairman
Adelson
is
on
Intergovernmental
Committee
and
we
met
yesterday
for
the
first
time
and
something
that
mr.
Bukhari
and
I
agree
on
I.
Don't
think
that's
a
went
to
speak
for
him,
but
we
need
an
intergovernmental
approach
to
basically
all
of
all
works.
You
know
and
I
think
that
that's
something
we're
going
to
try
to
wrestle
with
in
terms
of
how
do
we
employ
that
into
practice
through
our
committee
over
this
next
year,
but
I
will
say
to
that
point
myself
and
mr.
H
Bukhari
are
scheduled
to
meet
with
mustachio
and
Miss
Marshall,
who
is
there
intergovernmental
committee
person
in
the
coming
week?
So
there's
anything
that
you
feel
that
we
should
be
talking
about
specific
to
this
committee
or
in
general.
I
would
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
mr.
I
will
staying
on
mr.
Bukhari
or
myself,
and
we
can
take
that
into
consideration.
You
can't
build
it
on
there.
B
I
think
the
low-hanging
fruit-
and
there
might
be
more
than
this
and
that
we
kind
of
as
conversations
off
on
but
the
low-hanging
fruit
is
have
them
identify.
Who
is
the
most
logical
person
from
CMS
that
we
can
send
this
meeting
schedules
to
and
ask
them
to
be
here
or
send
the
proxy,
because
undoubtedly
they
have
somebody
whose
main
focus
is
the
safety
of
their
students
and
identifying
at-risk
students.
B
B
Superintendent,
Winston
or
County
Manager,
Diorio,
and
and
make
that
same,
ask
that
maybe
we'll
make
from
an
elected
level
that
you're
at
you're
making
it
from
a
management
level.
To
say
here
is
the
schedule
for
our
meetings
and
we
really
want
this
to
be
collaborative
and
for
it
to
be,
please
make
sure
that
you've
got
the
right
person
in
the
room.
B
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
I
do
want
us
to
formally
while
we
still
have
three
voting
members,
mr.
Mitchell
had
an
11:45
meeting
he
had
to
get
to
so
before
we
lose
a
quorum.
Did
anybody
see
anything
problematic
on
the
meeting
calendar
and,
if
not,
would
anyone
care
to
make
a
motion
to
formally
approve
that
meeting
calendar.
F
B
B
Hours
a
day,
I
don't
think
the
polls
are
open.
Quite
though,
so
are
there
any
other
final
comments?
Anybody
wants
to
make
I
appreciate
all
of
the
the
staff
assistants
appreciate
all
of
our
guests
for
joining
us.
Is
there
anything
else,
y'all
need
from
us
or
anything
else
that
we
need
from
staff
that
hasn't
been
stated
or
outlined?