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A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
May
21st
meeting
of
the
City
of
Charlotte
housing,
community
recovery
task
force
focus
on
affordable
housing.
My
name
is
Malcolm
Graham,
the
coordinator
of
the
task
force
and
a
member
of
the
Charlotte
City
Council
representing
district
2,
and
it's
indeed
an
honor
as
well
as
a
privilege
to
welcome
the
viewing
public
to
our
meeting
as
well
as
staff
and,
more
importantly,
the
volunteers
on
our
task
force.
A
Today's
meeting
will
be
a
continuation
of
our
first
objective
and
our
work
plan,
which
is
how
do
we
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
housing?
A
couple
of
housekeeping
notes,
one
every
task
force
members
should
have
received
their
agendas,
as
well
as
the
attachments
relating
to
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
that
we
spoke
about
last
meeting
for
your
review.
In
addition,
we
will
be
having
three
guests
to
provide
public
testimony
regarding
how
do
we
increase
the
affordable
housing
in
Charlotte?
Their
bios
are
attached
as
well
for
your
review,
so
you
know
who
they
are.
A
I,
think
all
those
information
can
be
found
online
for
the
viewing
public
as
well.
If
so,
without
further
ado,
we
have
a
pretty
package
into
I
want
to
get
right
into
introducing
our
task
force
members,
as
well
as
our
guests
and
city
staff
and
I'll
start.
First
again,
my
name
is
Malcolm
Graham
member
of
the
Charlotte
City
Council,
representing
district
2
and
coordinator
of
the
City
of
Charlotte
housing,
community
recovery
task
force.
H
A
I
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
meeting,
we
have
a
full
agenda,
so
let's
get
right
into
it.
I
now
call
on
Lee
and
Fred
to
kind
of
set
the
table
for
us
and
kind
of
give
a
recap
of
where
we
are
I
in
reference
to
our
phase,
one
of
the
our
work
plan
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
introductions
of
our
special
guests
who
will
be
providing
public
testimony
regarding
how
do
we
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
in
our
community?
Welcome,
Lee
and
Fred.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
I
think
people
just
report
for
now
I
think
remind
everyone.
Last
week
we
presented
some
information
around
Housing
Trust
Fund,
the
amounts
remaining
in
the
current
housing
trust
fund,
some
of
the
statutory
language
around
use
of
the
Housing
Trust
Fund,
and
the
bond
referendum
contemplated
for
this
November.
We
also
presented
some
some
of
the
challenges
of
kovat
19
on
housing
development.
Some
of
the
past
fixes
we've
had
other
shocks
to
the
development
of
affordable
housing
back
in
2008
2018.
E
E
Today,
I
think
we
are
gonna
hear
from
some
public
testimony
from
from
three
individuals
to
give
us
additional
recommendations
and
then,
after
they
speak,
Fred
and
I
are
gonna
summarize
try
to
summarize
what
we
have
heard
from
the
community
and
all
of
that
and
the
task
force
members
as
well.
Just
the
input,
we've
gotten
and
I
think
the
goal
to
come
out
of
that
would
be
to
come
back
next
week,
consolidate
all
of
that
information
and
come
back
with
the
correct
this
next
week.
E
So
obviously
we
continue
to
want
to
hear
from
the
public
and
from
other
task
force
members
as
to
know
what
their
recommendations
are,
especially
after
they
hear
what
they
hear
today,
and
that
we
would
come
back
using
the
for
our
four
tasks,
which
were
part
of
the
the
work
plan.
We
would
come
back
with
recommendations
on
those
four
tasks
for
the
least
the
first
part
of
the
meeting
next
week.
G
It's
just
really
paying
attention
to
the
market
and
in
this
market
that
we
have
now
and
making
sure
that
we
understand
what's
going
on
and
just
asking
questions
and
others
to
see
to
see
really
where
we
are,
because
this
is
a
precedent
but
I
look
forward
to
hearing
the
public.
Testimony
and
I
will
talk
about
some
of
the
comments
we've
received.
Thank.
A
We
welcome
them
to
the
task
force.
Each
individual
guest
will
have
seven
minutes
to
make
their
presentations.
I
will
be
keeping
a
clock
here
and
I
will
give
you
like
a
two-minute
warning
when
you
have
two
minutes
remaining.
But
again.
We
really
think
that
giving
public
impetus
is
extremely
important,
as
we
do
this
very
important
work.
So
with
that
would
like
to
welcome
Laura
Blanche
were
here
with
Habitat
for
Humanity.
You
have
her
bio
task
force.
M
So
with
that,
let
me
go
ahead
and
jump
into
the
next
slide,
so
just
quickly
on
habitat
and
a
lot
of
people
know
habitat
well,
but
just
quickly
habitat
of
the
Charlotte
region.
We've
served
close
to
2,500
families
since
inception.
We
do
that
primarily
through
new
home
construction,
for
the
rehabilitation
of
previously
owned
homes
through
the
repairs
of
critical
critical
repairs
on
owner-occupied
housing.
That's
mostly
for
seniors,
so
they
can
age
in
place
and
through
our
financial
literacy
programs.
M
I'm
gonna
focus
my
comments
today,
mostly
on
the
homeownership
aspect,
because
that's
what
the
goal
that
we're
looking
at,
who
we
serve
is
that
critical
part
of
our
population
in
our
community,
that
is,
in
the
30
to
60%
ami,
that's
kind
of
our
sweet
spot.
We
do
increase
and
serve
80
to
60
to
80
percent
when
we
have
a
concentration
of
housing
in
a
neighborhood
and
we
want
to
have
more
fixed
income.
M
So
thirty
to
sixty
is
our
primary
with
sixty
to
eighty
on
occasion,
so
you
know
just
to
understand
the
financial
model
for
Habitat
a
little
bit.
We
build
three
four
and
five
bedroom
homes.
Most
of
our
homes
are
four
bedrooms,
so
a
little
bit
larger
for
families
compared
to
a
lot
of
apartments.
We
build
both
single-family
and
townhomes,
and
so
increasingly,
more
density
with
townhomes.
M
Our
financial
model
right
now
is
that
we
self
fund
this
construction
costs
and
I'm
the
majority
of
our
mortgage
financing
so
we're
both
a
contractor
developer
and
a
mortgage
company
and
the
generation
of
all
of
our
new
units
is
really
constrained.
Based
on
the
financing
that's
available,
the
way
that
we
set
up
our
process
is
to
you
know,
subsidized
each
house
that
we
build,
and
so
you
know
we're
constrained
on
how
quickly
can
we
can
build
and
how
we
can
grow
just
based
on
the
financing
activities
when
I
think
about
our
families.
M
We
get
asked
about
how
how
successful
are
our
families?
We
have
a
really
good
track
record
with
our
families
in
their
homes.
We
think
that
is
because
of
the
financial
literacy
and
home
ownership
classes
that
they
take
15
weeks
of
classes.
They
invest
sweat,
equity,
300
to
400
hours,
depending
on
the
size
of
their
family.
We
write
size
their
mortgage
based
on
their
household
income,
so
their
mortgage
is
30
percent
of
their
income,
and
then
we
keep
a
relationship
with
them
and
refer
them
to
other
community
resources
as
needed.
M
We're
currently
administering
over
1,100
mortgages
in
our
portfolio,
so
about
a
50
million
dollar
mortgage
portfolio.
This
conversation
that
we're
having
around
how
to
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
homeownership
is
really
important.
If
you
look
at
the
next
slide,
which
you
can
see,
is
impact
that
has
Charlotte
recently
over
the
last
several
years,
with
a
really
dramatic
decline
in
housing:
that's
affordable,
either
new
housing
or
existing
housing,
and
so,
while
we've
seen
a
two-thirds
drop
in
in
that
level
of
housing,
affordability,
we've
not
seen
wages
increase
to
that
level,
and
so
this
conversation
around.
M
M
You
know,
additionally,
on
different
options,
but
these
are
the
three
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
today
and
the
reason
I
picked.
These
is
that
they
they
mirror
some
of
the
existing
programs
that
are
existed
in
the
community
and
and
could
leverage
the
investments
from
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
That
way,
the
first
is
to
increase
down
down
payment
assistance.
This
would
be
critical
for
the
ability
of
developers
to
really
be
able
to
provide
housing
for
lower-income
constituencies
right
now.
M
We've
got
great
downpayment
assistance
coming
through
the
house
Charlotte
model
and
if
that
could
be
increased,
I
could
see
a
way
that
it
could
be
scaled
based
on
the
ami
and
the
families
that
are
being
served
and
so
increasing
that
dollar
amount
that's
available
for
downpayment
assistance
would
provide
more
opportunity
or
for
homeownership
the
other
is
per
unit
funding.
This
would
be
a
little
bit
similar
to
the
current
Housing
Trust
Fund
model.
The
challenge
here
is
is
trying
to
forecast.
M
What
you
would
need
to
do
is
look
at
housing
providers
and
determine
how
much
housing
they
could
they
could
build
if
additional
per
unit
funding
was
available
and
then
set
that
aside
and
then
based
on
successfully
selling
houses
to
income,
qualified
families
rebate
return
a
portion
of
per
unit
funding
to
them.
So
I
think
that
that
that
would
work
smoothly
and
would
allow
for
a
greater
expansion
of
affordable
housing
to
be
built.
M
A
M
A
D
Thank
you,
Laura's,
always
good
to
see
you
habitat
is
considered
a
lending
institution
and
I.
So
in
that
sense,
I
think
if
there's
an
important
partner
in
getting
some
market,
a
study
data
but
they're
kind
of
chew
on
I
wonder
over
the
past
two
months,
have
you
have
seen
any
new
trends
of
people
contacting
you
for
services
and
are
there
any
new
trend
among
existing
client,
yeah.
M
Absolutely
thank
you
for
the
question.
We
are
in
close
contact
with
our
families
and
our
mortgage
holders
and
we
are
hearing
from
that
they're
experiencing
some
income
loss
and
some
concern
over
their
ability
to
make
their
mortgage
payments
we're
working
closely
with
them,
and
we
are
also
referring
them
in
partnership
to
the
Charlotte
Mecklenburg
Housing
Partnership,
for
the
program
that's
being
administered
for
with
city
funds,
for
mortgage
relief.
But
we
do.
M
I
Good
afternoon,
thanks
Laura
thanks
so
much
for
the
work
you
all
are
doing
it
habitat.
First.
What
my
question
is:
let's
assume
that
we
were,
we
were
able
to
scale
the
availability
of
additional
funding.
What
would
it
take
for
your
organization
to
be
able
to
scale
its
production
capacity?
I
mean
how
many
more
units
could
you
really
put
on
the
ground
on
an
annual
basis?
What's
your
thought
about
that?
I
M
I
think
that
you
know
we've
got
you
know
we
got
capacity
to
grow
in
a
sense
that
we
we
know
the
demand
is
there.
We've
got
the
homeowners
that
are
that
have
demand,
and
so
you
know
to
be
able
to
scale.
We've
got
the
business
model
that
can
do
that.
We
just
need
to
you,
know,
have
the
funding,
and
then
we
would,
you
know,
put
the
staff
in
in
place
to
be
able
to
do
that.
M
So
our
anticipation,
this
current
fiscal
year,
will
we'll
do
close
to
40
homes
and
what
we're
anticipating
next
year
is
doing
forty
six
homes
for
this
in
this
pandemic
cycle
with,
but
that's
with
us
subsidizing
every
single
home
that
we're
building.
So
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
increase
the
funding
available,
we
could
definitely
scale
and
build
more.
F
M
Know
it's
it's
a
hard
question
to
answer
right
now.
I
think
that
you
know
we're
just
now
really
trying
to
understand.
You
know
kind
of
what
the
normal
for
employment
is
gonna
look
like
and
I
actually
personally
have
some
concerns
that
we're
gonna
see
more
housing
crisis
when
the
federal
unemployment
subsidies
are
and
if
they
end,
if
they
end
at
the
end
of
July,
as
currently
proposed,
then
I
think
we
could
see
both
rent
and
mortgage
volatility
more
in
the
August
September
October
time
frame.
M
You
know
that
the
current
unemployment
compensation
between
the
state
and
the
federal
it's
the
equivalent
of
a
forty
nine
thousand
dollar
salary,
and
so
in
a
lot
of
ways.
That's
helping
family
income
families
meet
a
lot
of
their
needs,
not
all
of
them,
but
a
lot
but
I
think
for
for
rent
and
for
mortgage
payments.
Our
risk
is
more
in
the
fall.
A
Are
there
any
more
questions
for
Laura
from
the
task
force
members
there
being
nine
Laura?
Thank
you
very
much
feel
free
to
stick
around
and
and
chime
in
when,
when
necessary
and
appropriate,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
all
the
work
that
you
do
in
the
community.
I
really
appreciate
you
next
speaker
from
echigoya
community
Charlotte
is
Peter.
Kelly
welcome,
Peter.
A
F
A
A
N
Welcome
I'm
honored
to
speak
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
the
one
that
affordable
housing
committee
I'd
like
to
start
by
talking
about
the
people
that
are
impacted
by
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
The
data
conclusively
shows
the
people
earning
less
than
50%
of
the
area
median
income.
By
far
the
people
that
have
the
greatest
need
for
affordable
housing,
they
may
be
living
in
substandard
conditions,
away
from
where
they
work.
You
may
even
be
forced
into
homelessness
the
people
that
earn,
let's
say
greater
than
60
percent
of
the
area.
N
Median
income
have
options
and
choices
and,
as
I
start
my
discussion,
just
we
need
to
provide
affordable
housing
where
the
need
is
the
greatest
and
as
Laura
Belcher
had
mentioned,
the
problem
is
we're
losing
units
faster
than
we
built
not
only
from
gentrification
of
neighborhoods,
but
also
there
are
about
sixteen
hundred
units
in
subsidized
developments
that
our
risk
of
losing
their
subsidies
in
the
next
ten
years.
So
we
need
some
new
approaches
to
accelerate
our
progress.
N
It's
important
to
preserve
the
affordable
units
we
already
have
now.
The
problem
is,
many
of
these
units
are
deteriorating
with
serious
problems
and
and
I.
Think
Lake.
Arbor
is
a
prime
example
where
the
family
suffering
horrible
conditions
lived
there
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
then
eventually
were
displaced
and
one
way
to
preserve
the
types
of
Units
is
through
stronger
housing
code
enforcement.
It's
really
unacceptable
to
hit
up
families
living
in
these
kind
of
conditions.
N
So
the
objective
of
this
is
to
preserve
these
units
while
meeting
the
minimum
requirements
for
a
livable
space.
A
second
thing
is
to
preserve
affordable
homes
and
an
example
of
that
is
the
crippled
home
repair.
That's
done
in
partnership
with
a
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
it
helps
keep
people
in
homes
preventing
displacement.
A
gentrification
of
neighborhoods
and
I
think
the
need
for
that
program
will
certainly
increase
with
the
loss
of
income
due
to
the
epidemic
when
planning,
affordable
housing.
We
also
need
to
consider
equity.
N
District,
six
and
seven
should
have
affordable
housing
for
those
who
work
there
and
should
not
get
a
pass
because
they're
expensive
areas,
so
the
housing
Charlotte
framework
should
favor
distribution,
equitable
distribution
of
affordable
housing
and,
in
particular,
there's
a
funding
camp
for
a
unit
and,
of
course,
some
of
the
housing
trust
fund.
This
represents
a
barrier
to
housing
in
district
6
and
7,
and
that
camp
really
should
be
removed
and
the
planning
for
affordable
housing
needs
to
anticipate
growth
and
change.
N
We
need
to
anticipate
with
a
Landrieu
crease
in
value
and
set
aside
housing
trust
fund
dollars
for
land
banking,
putting
the
land
aside
for
future
use.
The
city
should
be
working
with
new
partners
in
this
effort
as
well.
For
example,
the
charlotte-mecklenburg
school
system
is
unused
land
that
was
originally
planned
for
affordable
housing.
The
city
should
take
the
lead
in
discussing
potential
use
of
this
land
with
the
Board
of
Education
and
CMS
administration.
N
N
It's
just
one
more
thing
before
I
close,
and
this
is
really
addressed
to
the
to
the
full
housing
task
force.
We
in
one
Mac
feel
that
the
most
immediate
issue
for
the
task
force
is
the
the
anticipated
surge
in
evictions.
The
mecklenburg
county
courts
are
scheduled
to
reopen
June
the
first
and
there's
many
eviction
filings
expected
on
top
of
a
really
large
backlog,
and
it
could
get
really
ugly.
N
First,
the
task
force
should
work
with
city
staff,
to
the
written
policy
for
using
court
orders
and
in-room
repairs
with
landlords
refused
to
follow
the
housing
code
and
maintain
safe
and
habitable
housing,
and
second,
as
the
housing
Charlotte
framework
is
revisited
by
the
task
force.
Equitable
distribution
of
affordable
housing
should
be
given
a
prior,
promoting
development
in
district
6
and
76,
and
silver
and
I
offer
the
services
of
the
talented
one
net
team
to
help
work
on
these
recommendations.
I
sincerely,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
these
ideas
for
your
consideration.
A
Mike.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
We
made
notes
of
your
your
comments.
If
you
can
supply
us
a
written,
written
documentation
of
your
comments,
that
would
be
really
helpful,
but
I
think
we
captured
both
of
the
recommendations
as
well
as
many
of
the
themes
that
you
presented
in
your
presentation,
but
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
anything
if
we
can
get
a
written
copy
of
that.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
Now.
I
will
open
it
up
to
the
task
force
members
for
questions
for
Mike.
If
there's
anything.
A
C
O
A
C
Mr
Graham
I
have
some
a
couple
thought
yes,
ma'am
welcome.
Thank
you.
These
were
excellent
presentations
by
those
who
are
working
on
the
ground.
I
thought
they
were
great
recommendation
and
practical
recommendations.
I
had
more
of
a
an
observation
that
that
maybe
someone
can
weigh
in
maybe
mr.
Dotson
or
someone
else.
We
know
that
the
average
median
income
in
Charlotte
the
last
night
check
was
around
$60,000.
C
C
So
we
need
more
programs
like
Habitat
for
Humanity
or
programs
such
as
that
that
can
better
available
for
the
average
worker
here
in
Charlotte,
so
I
have
that
to
say,
and
also
as
far
as
the
eviction
the
critical
need
that
we
know
is
imminent
in
mouth.
You
and
I
have
spoken
and
I
I
know
that
Kim
Graham.
It's
really
on
this.
The
city
has
a
unique
and
great
opportunity
to
mediate
for
lamb
for
the
Landlord
and
Tenant
before
the
evictions
are
filed
in
in
court.
C
So
I
just
want
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
but
that
everyone
knows
that
we're
working
on
that.
If
there
is
that
ability,
I've
spoken
to
William,
Bradford
he'd,
see
a
director
of
the
CRC's
apartment
for
the
Charlotte
and
I.
Think
there's
there's
a
strong
push
for
the
mediation
in
order
to
avoid
these
evictions
on
the
record
before
they're
filed
with
courts.
C
So
if
we,
if
we
can
amp
that
up
and
get
that
ready
for
the
volume,
that's
going
to
protect
a
lot
of
individuals
from
having
the
eviction
on
their
records,
so
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
make
or
Kim
Bram
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
that.
But
I
think
there's
a
solution
on
that.
We
are
able
to
provide
for
that
quickly.
A
Thank
You
mr.
Johnson
I
think
you're
absolutely
right
and
the
presentation
I
was
given
last
week
was
really
good
in
terms
of
the
the
mediation
I
know:
Willie,
his
staff
are
on
it
and
III
think
you're
spot-on
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
that
does
not
fall
through
the
cracks.
So
we
hear
you
any
comments.
Kim.
A
H
What
else
sets
a
Willie
when
we
spoke
yesterday
was
we
just
need
to
have
kind
of
confidence
in
the
process
so
that
we
know
that
once
the
course
we
open
that
we're
not
going
to
have
this
huge
backlog
of
folks
who
won't
have
anywhere
to
go
and
we'll
be
waiting
waiting
for
those
cases
to
be
put
on
dock?
This
judicial
Joplin
is
so
does
best
believes
that
between
the
judicial
intervention,
along
with
the
mediation
department
that
we'll
be
able
to
move
through
as
many
as
600
cases
in
a
week.
H
So,
whether
or
not
that's
really
possible
is
a
question,
but
that
she
did
some
quick
math,
and
so
we
think
that
that
might
impossible.
We
have
some
alternative
mediation
programs,
at
least
one
that's
trying
to
grab
a
hold.
That
would
be
a
fee-for-service
program,
so
we're
looking
into
whether
or
not
that
is
a
viable
option.
So
we
will
be
talking
about
that
next
week
as
well
and
then
to
another
point
of
Councilwoman
Johnson's.
It
was
the
question
of
how
we
ensure
that
renters
don't
have
their
credit
reports
and
credit
histories
damaged
by
eviction.
A
P
Thank
You
mr.
Graham
and
I
apologize
for
the
technical
issues,
but
I'm
glad
to
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
next
slide.
Please
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
do:
eckerle
treaties.
We
try
to
give
context,
in
fact,
to
try
to
help
people
deal
with
the
situation.
So
some
of
our
comments
today
are
going
to
be
to
understand
the
history
in
the
context
of
what's
happening
and
to
encourage
additional
facts
so
that
we're
measuring
things
that
make
improvements.
P
We
go
by
the
basic
business
principle
that
if
you
can't
measure
it,
you
can't
fix
it,
and
so
we
aren't
measuring
what
we
need.
Then
we
don't
know
if
we're
making
progress
and,
lastly,
based
upon
facts
and
context,
then
you
can
take
action.
So
that's
our
recommendation.
That's
our
approach
to
how
we
solve
problems,
so
we
want
to
do
is
start
with.
We
think
there's
a
need
for
us
to
be
measuring
demand
and
supply.
P
P
This
is
an
example
of
how
we
would
compute
supply,
so
it
the
one
that
think
I
understand.
But
if
you
go
to
the
bottom
and
you
go
to
the
column
that
our
average
loss,
which
is
the
second
column
from
the
left
during
the
2014
to
2017
period,
we
added
four
thousand
apartments
in
Charlotte.
That's
the
good
news,
but
it
breaks
down
underneath
that
is
gratifying.
Those
apartments
by
rent
how
many
are
available
that
would
be
rent
equivalent
to
various
ami
levels.
P
And
if
you
look
at
them,
we
have
a
decrease
of
a
thousand
units
on
average
at
the
30%
and
a
7000
decrease
at
the
50%
ami
level.
So
that
is
what's
happening
to
the
two
supply
because
of
the
reduction
of
nila
complex.
You
know
we
all
know
across
all
Charles
anecdotally,
we've
seen
apartment
complexes
come
down
the
only
place
by
market
that
is
happening
at
a
pace
that
is
much
greater
than
we
can
possibly
build.
P
So
we
need
to
understand
the
significance
of
that
acknowledge
the
market
does
what
it
does,
but
we
need
to
be
understanding
how
big
our
problem
is.
So
if
you
go
through
that
process,
we
are
losing
2,000
apartment
for
60%
of
below
every
year.
It
takes
two
years
to
meet
new
development.
So
during
that
two
years
we
lose
on
average
4,000
important,
based
on
the
historical
progress
of
the
findings
through
HTF
related
projects.
P
P
The
other
thing
that
we
think
should
be
managed
is
put
into
demand
and
there's
a
lot
of
debate
about
how
might
serves
income.
You
should
spend
through
your
rent
and
so
30
percent
into
industry
in
the
warm
assuming
for
a
moment,
that's
a
little
low
and
that
people
could
actually
make
it
work
is
40
percent
anything
I'm,
40
percent
above
we
know,
certainly
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
save
any
money.
What
this
chart
show
is
left
in
two
columns
is
that
30%?
P
These
people
are
going
to
have
more
of
a
problems,
so
we
need
to
not
take
our
focus
away
from
this
segment
of
the
population,
because
these
numbers
suggest
that's
where
the
problem
is:
it's
not
higher
up
in
the
food
chain,
it's
at
the
30
to
60
range.
So
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
back
this
next
slide.
Please.
P
The
other
thing
just
trying
to
put
context
in
all
this.
When
we
look
at
how
we're
supposed
to
be
seen
spending
money,
it
needs
to
all
be
logically
based,
regardless
of
the
budget
source.
So
it's
Housing
Trust,
Fund
choice
with
partnering
with
lists
or
ongoing
budget
issues.
The
framework
is
theoretically
driving
the
plan,
how
we
implement-
and
it
has
many
facets
of
that.
P
So
not
all
pieces
of
this
can
be
fixed
by
different
one
single
component,
for
example-
vouchers
as
you
well
discovered
in
the
last
few
weeks,
certainly
can't
be
used
with
Housing
Trust
Fund
bombs,
but
it
can
be
taken
out
of
the
operating
budget
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
the
problem
has
multifaceted
solutions
and
those
were
in
fact
anticipated
in
the
framework.
So
this
is
aligning
to
the
pre
approved
framework.
That's
likely.
P
P
That
fund
can't
come
out
of
the
city,
because
that
would
be
because
a
little
bit
too
much
bureaucracy
there,
but
it
could
be
coming
out
of
the
list
well
Chili's
button,
so
we
would
suggest
that
you
partner
and
talk
with
your
partner
is
about
how
we
might
take
part
of
their
capital.
Setting
aside
for
rotating
you
so
that
position,
that's
permanent
financing
comes
in
and
take
that
money
back.
It
can
go
back
to
the
next
product.
That's
an
example
of
trying
to
use
the
market.
P
Please
do
the
things
that
the
market
would
do
on
its
own.
Relate
it
to
that.
We
think
that
we
should
be
focusing
more
on
proactively
soliciting.
So
if
you
have
that
acquisition
fund-
and
we
had
a
list
of
Noah
properties,
we
can
proactively
go
out
and
look
for
opportunities,
rather
than
waiting
for
them
to
come.
True
right
now,
the
process
set
up
so
that
if
they
are
so
inclined
to
be
willing
to
help
the
community,
then
they
show
up
and
ask
for
funding.
P
P
This
is
the
opportunity
for
us
to
do
this
structurally
planning
to
be
positioned.
If
that
that
marketing
opportunity
exists,
that
we
might
find
that
we
have
NOAA
properties,
that
people
were
thinking
of
selling,
but
the
buyer
disappears
that
might
give
us
an
opportunity
to
step
in.
So
we
think
those
items
should
be
focused
on,
in
addition,
is
focusing
in
to
transitioning
neighborhoods
to
try
to
focus
on
getting
Bentley
with
affordability
right
now.
If
you
look
at
any
of
the
projects
for
most
of
the
city,
certainly
a
pretty
one
rezoning.
P
Whenever
we
have
increase
in
density
in
transitioning
neighborhoods,
we
end
up
putting
in
higher
priced
homes.
We
may
get
increased
density,
but
we
lose
the
affordability
and
we're
still
forcing
people
to
move,
but
we
need
to
be
focusing
on
the
context
of
these
are
neighborhoods
that
are
in
transition,
and
how
can
we
attack
those
and
perhaps
partner,
with
Laura
and
habitat,
going
into
those
of
neighborhoods
and
building
more
different
types
of
homes
to
stabilize
those
neighborhood?
P
The
other
possibility
is
going
in
and
purchasing
again
some
of
those
rental
homes,
particularly
that
recently
been
remodeled
or
having
trouble
with
a
hearing
B&B
model,
if
not
working
for
them
right
now
that
contains
the
lag
come
on.
That's
going
to
be
in
other
opportunities
so
again
trying
to
position
us
to
think
in
terms
of
when
market
does
certain
things.
How
might
we
take
advantage
of
it
to
use
the
public
land?
We
would
suggest
that
one
of
the
things
we
haven't
done
historically,
that
we
strongly
encourage
is
to
start
purchasing
land
around
the
goal.
P
A
P
Gulabi
next
issue
is:
there
are
other
opportunities
for
you
to
use
within
your
budget.
That
would
increase
the
leverage
to
make
those
Housing
Trust
Fund
dollars
go
farther,
one
of
which
is
mentioned.
The
other
day
is
looking
at
tapped:
investment
grant
TIG
the
whole
property
taxes
during
the
level
of
affordability.
That
is
the
way
to
take
operating
expenses
and
make
them
happen.
P
It
is
for
every
dollar
you
save
$35.
He
pays
in
annual
rent
property
taxes
that
equals
a
million
dollars
in
capital
Cleveland.
So
you
can
start
to
figure
out
how
a
significant,
if
you
talk
to
any
of
the
developers,
if
you
are
able
to
offer
Tigs
to
affordable
housing
development,
whatever
method
you
use,
it
would
dramatically
increase
their
ability
to
deliver.
P
L
P
Your
development
process,
we
strongly
encourage
that
and
to
move
that
along
as
far
as
we
can
in
perhaps
finding
special
paths
for
those
doing
the
portable
housing
developments,
not
just
for
all
developers.
You,
the
next
thing
we
think
is
really
critical.
Again.
If
you
don't
measure
it,
you
can't
fix
it,
and
so
we
need
to
establish
metrics.
We
need
to
come
up
with
examples
of
how
we're
managing
demand
and
supply,
so
we
can
understand
what's
happening.
The
next
piece
is,
we
are
thinking
in
terms
of
neighborhoods,
but
transactions
were
not
taking
into
consideration.
P
P
A
P
A
B
B
There
was
some
information
there
we'll
try
to
do
a
repo
until
we
get
the
slides
back
up,
but
mr.
Kelly.
Thank
you.
The
presentation
on
the
on
the
graph,
which
I
think
was
showing
how
cost
burden
people
are
okay.
Well,
then,
yeah
either
way
we'll
start
with
either
one
the
one
yeah
so
we're
on
the
chart
now,
the
one
that
is
showing
that
the
cost
burden
for
folks
is
this
just
the
City
of
Charlotte?
Is
it
Mecklenburg
County
assume
it's
not
anything
broader
than
that.
B
B
If
we
were
able
to
break
those
census
tracks
down
to
Charlotte
or
or
not
within
Mecklenburg
County
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
if
the.
If
the
data
is
much
different,
obviously
the
rents
and
the
financial
situation,
the
people
in
some
of
our
towns
can
often
be
very
different
than
those
just
within
the
city
limits.
So
maybe
it
wouldn't
maybe
would
be
similar,
but
with
the
interstate.
If
we
could
go
back
to
that
chart
first,
one
I
didn't
see.
B
Well,
I
guess:
I'm
curious.
Is
this
the
latest
data
that's
available
and,
and
frankly,
I
think
that
mr.
Winston
can
attest
to
this
for
the
last
two-and-a-half
years.
Mr.
Winston
I've
done
counsel
and
I
would
presume
before
that
as
well.
The
question
keeps
being
asked
what
the
rate
of
loss
is
compared
to
what
we're
adding
and
I.
Don't
know
that
you
can
also
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
but
I,
don't
let
it
leave
it
of
a
gotten,
a
clear
answer.
B
L
L
We've
never
really
looked
at
this
when
I
was
hearing
mr.
Kelly
speak
and
not
to
forgo
any
type
of
recommendations,
but
I
think
without
a
mechanism
to
well
I.
Think
the
preservation
of
existing
units
certainly
helps
with
this
and
without
a
mechanism
to
what
I'd
say
without
inclusionary
zoning
you
you,
we
don't
have
a
mechanism
to
to
force
market
rate
developers
to
include
units
in
their
developments.
L
However,
as
you
all
have
seen
since
you've
been
on
council
is,
you
do
have
developers
who
are
involuntarily,
including
units
through
the
rezoning
process,
so
I
guess
the
short
answer
to
your
question?
Is
we've
never
looked
at
just
total
units
lost
across
the
city,
we've
more
so
taken
the
time
to
look
at
kind
of
what
the
affordable
housing
need
and
that's
how
we've
arrived
at
what
the
numbers.
D
B
H
Thank
you.
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
city's
kind
of
stance
on
the
naturally
occurring.
Affordable
housing
I
know
that
after
the
50
million
dollar
bond
referendum
was
passed,
that
there
was
discussion
at
the
City
Council
as
to
priorities
around
actually
occurring.
Affordable
housing
preservation
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarification
on
that
I.
Couldn't.
H
L
What
I
think
what
you're
recalling
is
the
City
Council
did
pass
a
NOAA
policy.
We
can
send
that
out
to
the
group,
if
that's
helpful
again,
but
within
that
NOAA
policy.
It
talked
about
kind
of
the
metrics
that
we
would
that
the
City,
Council
and
staff
would
use
when
evaluating
whether
or
not
Housing
Trust
Fund
dollars
would
be
granted
to
preserve
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
H
A
D
Well,
I
I
mean
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
the
question.
I
miss
daegil,
it's
an
act,
I
mean
this
is
this
is
something
that
we've
been
asking
for
for
the
entire
lutely,
the
entire
time
that
I've
been
on
council
other
council
members
have
asked
it
and
because
the
idea
is,
how
can
we
actually
create
policy
frameworks
and
and
and
and
optimize
our
spin?
P
L
D
L
A
I
Thanks
I
guess:
I
wanted
to
ask
mr.
Kelly
about
the
the
methodology
that
he
used
to
determine
this
a
long
time
ago,
when
I
served
on
the
housing
trust
fund,
we
we
actually
had
a
study
that
was
done
by
an
outside
third-party,
that
kind
of
helped
us
figure
out
some
of
this
data
on
the
supply
side
and
also
on
the
demand
side.
It
may
be
that
and
I
believe,
that's
probably
part
before
it's
staffed
us
now
when
they
prepare
their
annual
housing
report
for
hood.
I
But
there
may
be
some
question
around
the
methodology
and
perhaps
mr.
cook
could
share
that
with
us.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
take
the
time
to
do
it
right
now,
but
if
he
could
provide
that
input
to
us,
you
can
have
access
to
that
and
also
have
access
to
his
slides
I
think
that
would
be
very
useful.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
A
We'll
make
sure
that
every
Task
Force
member
I
gets
the
slide.
They
should
have
it
and
we
will
we'll
await
the
methodology
from
mr.
Kelly
and
we'll
send
that
out
as
well
to
all
the
task
force.
Members
pip
it
back
to
our
leads
Fred
and
lead
to
kind
of
respond
to
what
they
heard
and
to
guide
us
to
our
next
steps.
G
All
started
until
actually
to
add
comments.
I
really
do
appreciate
everything.
We've
referred
to
Denis
and
I've
appreciated
the
key
of
the
comments
that
have
been
sent
to
us
after
the
last
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
things
that
I
heard
that
I
think
I
need
to
respond
to
that
I
can't
respond
to
it
up.
I
definitely
agree
with
more
belters
comment
that
we
won't
really
see
the
impact
of
kovat
on
the
housing
perspective
until
later
on
this
year.
G
G
Need
to
while
we're
in
this
crisis,
one
way
that
we
can
prepare
for
that
is
by
collecting
as
much
as
we
can
to
really
understand.
What's
going
on
and
we're
doing
that,
it
has
a
partnership
with
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program
that
we
have
now
that
I'm
an
emergency
mortgage
assistance
person
if
we
keep
the
track
of
those
the
data
that
were
received
from
that
just
to
find
out
real-time
with
what's
going
on.
G
Also
council
member
Johnson
question
regarding
your
comment
regarding
the
cost
of
a
home.
I
completely
agree
with
her
that
that
that
is
part
of
this
crisis
as
well.
It
was
before
competitive
will
be
after
we
have
to
find
ways
to
create
affordable
for
sale,
has
a
partnership,
and
others
are
trying
to
do
that.
We're
getting
back
into
the
business
of
building
homes
and
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
them
more
affordable
distance
habitat
has
done
for
a
long
time,
because
one
of
you
know
maintaining
great
neighborhoods.
G
We
have
agreed
civility
and
opportunities
for
upward
mobility
and
the
ability
to
buy
home
is
very,
very
important,
so
I
think
so
in
many
ways.
From
the
housing
perspective,
the
prices
it's
just
beginning,
therefore,
we
have
to
be
nimble
with
the
resources
that
we
have
and
we
have
to
leverage
not
only
the
City
of
Charlotte
resources
but
but
resources
from
elsewhere,
because
the
city
has
solved
this
problem
alone.
G
You
have
to
provide
leverage
for
other
resources
to
help
address
the
challenges
we
have
and
we
need
to
be
a
be
prepared
to
create
new
models
for
house,
and
you
can't
just
do
things
the
way
we've
always
done
them.
I
think
that
supportive
housing
will
be
credible
and
the
need
for
housing
for
those.
A
third
son
ami
will
increase.
G
Because
of
this
crisis,
but
that
being
said,
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
shouldn't
abandon
a
building
mixed
income
housing,
because
there
will
be
circumstances
where
by
you,
you're
gonna
need
a
mixture
of
market
rate
and
affordable
in
order
to
finance
well
and
I'll
end
there
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
bleach
press.
Some
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
so
far
as
as
we
prepare
to
put
to
get
recommendations.
E
All
the
comments
that
have
been
received
so
I
won't
repeat
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
our
three
speakers
made
today,
because
you
all
just
heard
them,
but
we
really
wanted
to
add
to
those
unless
those
comments
were
also
made
kind
of
through
something
from
some
other
source.
Just
to
give
you
a
sense,
so
I
will
do
this
fairly
quickly,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
do
a
quick
summary
of
of
the
different
comments
we've
heard.
I
did
organize
them
somewhat
into.
E
So
what
we
heard
in
terms
of
using
the
Housing,
Trust,
Funds
and
I'll,
add
some
of
the
comments
that
Fred
and
I
have
made
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
as
well
related
to
these
items,
one
was
to
make
sure
to
have
a
focus
on
supportive
housing,
as
I
mentioned
in
one
of
my
comments.
Most
projects
with
Housing
Trust
Fund
already
do
this
to
some
degree,
have
a
set-aside
of
units
so,
for
instance,
every
tax
credit
development
has
a
set-aside
of
10%
of
the
units
for
folks
with
disabilities.
E
But
that
was
a
comment
that
we
heard
was
that
make
sure
that
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
is
used
for
supportive
housing.
The
the
comment
was
to
focus
on
folks
at
50%
AMI.
The
current
housing
trust
fund
framework
has
a
priority
and
a
focus
strong
focus
on
households
at
30%
ami.
We
certainly
didn't
hurt
here
a
doof
percent
instead
of
thirty,
but
right
now,
most
housing
trust
mint
projects,
focus
on
30%
and
60%
ami,
but
there
was
a
desire
for
some
50%
ami.
E
So
many
of
those
households
are
being
served
through
the
30
in
the
60s,
but
if
there
is
a
gap,
how
do
we
serve
the
gap?
That's
being
missed?
I
you've
obviously
heard
it
several
times
that
a
desire
to
use
some
of
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
on
homeownership,
a
related
comment
on
that
was
B.
If-
and
this
actually
affects
both
homeownership
and
Noah's-
is
how
to
use
the
housing.
If
you're
gonna
use
Housing
Trust
Fund
for
homeownership
or
no,
it
is.
How
do
you
do
that?
E
Do
you
still
do
the
two
twice
a
year,
RFP
process,
or
do
you
need
a
different
process
for
projects
that
aren't
as
regular
as
once
every
two
years,
so
we
will
look
into
that
as
well.
The
other
source
was
land
was
land
acquisition
again.
This
is
also
focused
on
Noah
acquisition,
but
a
subset
of
that
would
be
land
acquisition,
either
along
transit
lines
for
primarily
multifamily
or
single-family
land
acquisition
for
in
in
some
sort
of
Community
Land
Trust.
E
That
kind
of
I
will
say
a
lot
of
what
we're
gonna
hear
and
try
to
balance
in
our
recommendations
are
competing
priorities,
because
what
we
also
heard
was
focus
on
immediate
needs.
How
does
the
hands
of
Housing
Trust
Fund
focus
with
immediate
needs
and
obviously,
if
you're
acquiring
and
land
banking
putting
land
in
a
land
bank
that's
more
of
a
long-term
play?
E
So
how
what's
the
right
mix
of
Housing,
Trust
Fund
that
focuses
on
long-term
and
what
focuses
on
short-term
so
we'll
balance
that
as
well,
you've
heard
through
Fran
denies
comments
and
other,
and
we
got
this
also
from
other
members
was
we
have
some
previously
funded
projects
that
may
potentially
have
some
funding
gaps
due
to
Copan
19
and
the
markets
for
tax
credits,
we'd
like
to
plug
those
gaps
with
federal
and
state
resources,
but
we
need
to
be
open.
There
may
be
some
gaps
and
we
certainly
projects
that
are
ready
to
start
construction.
E
E
We've
heard
comments
that,
based
on
current
state
statute,
that
wouldn't
be
allowed,
but
it
was
a
comment
that
was
made,
but
we've
heard
it
just
I
think
the
broader
comment
was
that
there
is
a
need
for
short-term
rental
assistance
and
for
folks
that
are
struggling
with
Cobie
19.
That
was
kind
of
the
first
category,
which
was
specific
suggestions
around
the
housing
trust
fund.
E
You
know
restrictions
there,
but
how
do
we
leverage
that,
with
for
Housing
Trust
Fund
surplus
land,
both
from
we
first,
if
Charlotte,
which
they
are?
You
know
that's
a
existing
policy,
Mecklenburg
County
and
school
systems?
Their
policies
have
been
kind
of
stop
and
start
have
been
really
gotten
off
the
ground
so
using
surplus
land
of
leverage.
The
state
tax
credit
that
was
passed
in
South
Carolina
and
that
exists
in
Georgia
would
be
a
great
other
tool
to
leverage
Trust
Fund
that
doesn't
exist
in
North.
E
Carolina
would
adversely
require
state
action
and
other
tools
would
be
density
bonuses
accessory
dwelling
units
effectively.
Other
other
ideas
we've
heard
of
how
do
you
produce
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
outside
of
specific
recommendations
around
the
housing
trust
fund
and
then
finally,
we
heard
and
I
only
have
one
written
down
but
comments
that
came
to
us,
but
because
they
went
to
the
whole
task
force.
We
assume
they've
been
picked
up
by
other
groups,
other
other
working
groups
that
are
really
more
different
than
our
specific.
E
Around
housing
trust
fund
are
increasing
the
supply,
and
a
lot
of
that
was
around
vouchers.
How
do
we
increase
the
use
of
vouchers?
Vouchers
are
already
used
in
our
I
think
virtually
every
housing
trust
fund
project
that's
been
funded,
but
also
whether
if
there
is
vacancy
in
if
kovat
19
starts
to
cause
vacancy.
How
do
we
you
take
that
as
an
opportunity
to
use
vouchers?
We
didn't
really
see
that
as
a
specific
charge
to
our
working
group
to
acknowledge
it
and
I
think
that
is
other
than
what
was
also
like.
E
I
said:
I,
didn't
repeat
everything
that
was
said
today,
but
these
were
the
comments
that
we
received
throughout
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
That
will
also
take
into
effect
plus
I,
took
a
whole
lot
of
notes
from
the
three
different
presenters
that
were
presented
and
I'll
finish
there
other
than
to
say
Mike.
As
Fred
said,
our
charge
was
to
take
all
of
this
in
data
or
all
this
input
and
to
attempt
to
fashion
some
recommendations
to
bring
back
to
the
housing
to
this.
This
committee
next
week.
A
Thank
You,
Fred
and
Lee,
and
now
what
I
want
to
do
this
open
it
up
for
any
final
comments
from
the
task
force
members
the
charge
has
been
stated
presently
as
lead
for
the
the
first
portion
of
our
work
plan
will
bring
back
their
recommendations
to
the
committee
on
next
week,
and
so
there's
still
time
for
input
from
task
force.
Members
here
today
and
are
in
writing
to
both
Fred
and
Lee
I.
A
D
C
Yes,
I
wanted
to
know,
since
miss
wide
moon
is
doing
some
research
to
bring
some
information
back
if
we
can
have
a
map
or
send
a
link
to
in
that
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
If
that
information
is
compiled
somewhere,
I'm
also
in
favor
and
I,
think
we
all
are
an
equitable
distribution
of
affordable
housing.
So
if
we
can
take
a
look
at
Matt
a
map
while
we're
making
recommendations
or
receiving
recommendation
that
that
would
be
considered.
A
I
I
The
county
of
Durham
is
95
million
dollar
bond
out
there
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
what
is
the
real
reason
for
why
he
could
not
pursue
a
larger
bond
for
housing
above
the
50/50
and
and
and
I
think?
That's
something
that
perhaps
we
need
to
have
some
dialogue
about
and
kind
of
understand
of
what
the
real
implications
are
there,
whether
or
not
there's
economic
implications
or
whether
or
not
it's
disputing
the
political
situation.
L
Mr.
Lindsey
I'm
no
budget
expert
but
I'll
take
a
stab
at
this,
and
we
can
also
provide
you
a
more
thorough
response
in
your
write-up.
We
generally
as
a
city
have
three
housing:
three
bonds.
We
have
a
housing
bond,
we
have
a
transportation
bond
and
we
have
a
neighborhood
bonds,
and
so
it's
really
about
the
bond
amounts
are
set
within
the
context
of
trying
to
remain
it,
trying
to
maintain
the
city's
triple-a
rating
and
also
about
balancing
on
what
the
city
can
afford
to
pay
back
with
other
needs
in
those
areas
as
well.
L
A
E
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
give
one
piece
of
information
and
I
give
it
purely
informational
II
not
taking
a
position
one
way
or
the
other,
because
we
do.
We
aren't
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
Durham
Durham's.
Ninety-Five
million
dollar
bond
is
designed
for
five
years.
I
know
the
50
million
first
city.
Is
we
do
bond
issuance
every
two
years
now
they
may
decide
to
change
their
mind,
but
when
they
passed
it
that
was
designed
for
them
to
last
five
years.
D
A
Let's
do
this:
let's
work
with
staff
over
the
next
week
to
kind
of
get
a
more
formal
response
from
from
budget
and
our
CFO.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
apples
and
orange
I
think
Portland
tax
rate
is
probably
a
lot
higher
than
ours,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
variables
that
are
taken
into
consideration,
but
I'll
test
I'll
ask
Pat
and
staff
to
bring
back
on
some
more
clarification,
information.
A
A
And
so
as
we
close,
what
we're
looking
for
next
week
is
two
things:
one,
the
the
recommendations
from
Lee
and
Fred
for
our
first
block
of
our
work
plan
and
then
an
introduction
of
palapa
from
Kathy
and
her
group
for
our
our
work
plan.
So
they'll
have
part
of
the
meeting.
First
part,
obviously
closing
out
getting
recommendations,
getting
feedback
from
the
task
force,
members
on
the
recommendations
and
then
we'll
introduce
Kathy's
topic
to
the
committee
into
the
to
the
task
force.
Also,
we
will
be
providing
the
data
on
that
mr.
A
I
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
put
out
a
reminder
to
the
task
force.
Members
have
been
in
our
Dropbox
I've,
been
adding
some
documents,
they're
related
to
the
tasks
that
I'm
working
on
and
I
just
want.
You
can
progress
that
they
should
remember
to
reference
the
Dropbox
for
documents
that
might
be
related
to
these
other
topics.
You
so
and
remind
other
people
who
have
things
to
also
include
them
in
the
Dropbox.
Thank
you
well,.
A
I
think
that,
thank
you,
mr.
Lindsey
and
I
think
that
really
goes
right
into
our
leads
update
a
flash
around
of
just
quick
notes
that
you
might
want
the
task
force
to
be
mindful
of
as
you
prepare
for
your
presentations
in
the
coming
weeks.
So
all
the
leads,
if
there's
a
quick,
30,
second
commercial,
that
you
want
to
make
announce
the
time
you
do
it.
A
Any
lease
I
want
to
kind
of
chime
and
I
know
that
everyone
is
it's
working
because
I
see
the
emails
going
back
and
forth.
So
I
just
really
appreciate
the
work
that
the
task
force
is
doing.
Obviously
we
have
a
time
agenda
for
different
topics
and
folks
are
beginning
to
do
their
work
now.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
If
there's
no
comments,
that's
fine,
but
it's
just
one
of
the
Janelle
that
the
task
force
members
overall
to
know
that
folks
are
working
in
and
really
putting
some
thoughtful
ideas
towards
to
their
to
their
tasks.
F
Mr.
Graham,
this
is
Cathy
commies
and
we've
been
working
on
getting
a
survey.
Monkey
survey
out
to
the
faith-based
community
I'm
also
pulling
up
with
crystal
Lee
I'm.
Sorry
crystal
joy
that
the
lien
statute
this
afternoon,
to
talk
about
a
survey
that
she
sent
out
also
had
a
conversation
with
ralphing
Caldwell
with
list
and
just
talking
about
what
ideas
she
might
have.
The
limitations
on
the
50
million
dollar
match
that
she
has
and
there's
it
has
to
be
used.
Those
funds
have
to
be
used
the
same
way,
the
housing
trust
fund.
F
So
there's
really,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
share
the
concern
that
was
raised
earlier
by
Michael
Sullivan,
with
the
course
opening
up
June
1st.
So
any
ideas
on
how
we
can
kind
of
intercept
and
perhaps,
if
the
information
out
there,
where
there
can
be
some
rent
relief
for
both
landlords
and
renters,
who
are
going
to
begin
to
be
impacted
here
in
a
couple
weeks.
J
Thank
you
so
good
afternoon,
so
we
are
actively
and
very
very
busy
in
the
homeless
space
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
working
on
and
trying
to
be
strategic
about
its
all
the
individuals
that
are
in
the
hotels
and
so
as
we're
planning.
We
had
a
hotel
to
close
down
this
week
that
really
impacted
our
homeless
system
and
and
I
was
going
to
be
stubbornness
and
it
can't
come
in
the
shelter
because
we're
trying
to
be
safe.
J
However,
on
that
night,
when
that
hotel
closed,
we
had
to
make
space
in
the
middle
of
trying
to
do
social
distancing
to
let
those
families
in
the
shelter
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
our
radar.
That
was
the
Days
Inn
on
what
limit
close.
The
fire
marshal
closed
it
down
rightfully
so
because
of
the
fire,
has
it
but
I
learned
a
lot
from
WSOC?
They
called
me
about
the
motel
6
closes
on
South
time,
and
so
as
we're
planning.
J
A
You
to
Rhonda
for
those
comments
and
you're,
absolutely
right,
I'm
getting
a
number
of
emails
of
those
as
well
and
we're
trying
to
work
with
our
partners
on
with
Mecklenburg
County
and
others,
the
mediation
to
really
kind
of
brace
ourselves
and
provide
a
a
coordinated
response
to
a
number
of
the
issues
that
are
arising
in
the
community.
Miss
Graham.
J
Yeah
so
Kim
there
was
a
time
when
they
were
receiving
funds
and
so
I'm,
not
an
expert
I'll
going
on
the
conference
calls
but,
of
course,
social
service
work
with
a
lot
of
those
hotels.
Now
so
one
of
the
things
they're
doing
there,
they
are
applying
two
weeks
of
rent
but
I'm,
not
sure
how
they
actually
do
it,
but
I'm
learning,
so
they
work
and
I
think
it
came
down
to
the
hotel
set,
stop
getting
funding
couldn't
operate.
J
H
J
A
Dulli
know
that
the
Rhonda
will
make
that
happen,
for
you
will
contact
social
server
and
try
to
get
them
to
our
next
meeting.
In
addition,
we
were
trying
to
get
list
here,
but
scheduling
complex
made
that
impossible
for
today,
so
there
they're
still
in
our
docket
to
bring
them
before
the
task
force
as
well,
but
dilly.
No,
the
social
service
done
a
lot
of
work.
They
have
a
lot
of
resources
that
were
provided
to
them
from
the
United
Way
foundation
of
the
Carolinas
grant
and
they're
literally
on
the
ground.
C
Yes,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
practical
in
our
work,
I
think
this
meeting
was
so
wonderful
as
far
as
the
information
that
we
received
as
far
as
the
hotel,
we
discussed
that
two
weeks
ago,
we
know
we've
had
a
presentation
from
the
county.
So
unless
our
task
force
can
it's
going
to
be
able
to
support
or
assist
in
that
I
think
that
we
should
I
mean
at
the
updates
nice,
but
it
is
just
that
it's
an
update.
C
We,
what
we're
aware
of
this
hotel,
you
know
you
know,
I've
brought
it
up
to
the
point
of
redundancy,
so
I
think
we
just
want
to
be
realistic.
If
we're
saying
that
that
is
a
County
issue,
then
we
just
want
to
consider
that
also
are
we
going
to
discuss
the
Cova
task
force
dollars
for
rental
assistance?
C
A
Been
working
with
the
office
of
the
mayor
and
so
I
think
that's
going
to
come
down
to
us
in
terms
and
and
approved
by
the
City
Council
in
terms
of
how
the
dollars
are
going
to
be
allocated.
Rest
assured
that
rental
relief
mortgage
relief
are
our
top
priorities
and
I
think
the
committee
will
be
pleased
in
terms
of
the
direction
that
the
mayor
and
whether
the
council
would
take
in
terms
of
those
particular
issues.
A
C
D
Yeah
my
hand
up
I
got
lowered
by
somebody,
not
myself,
I,
just
the
information
that
the
Rhondda
said
is
something
out.
I
just
want
to
echo
what
I
said
many
weeks
ago,
these
hotel
owners
and
this
whole
relationship
between
even
people
that
need
homes
in
these
hotels.
The
goalpost
is
moving.
Every
it'll
continue
to
move.
It's
Rhonda
said
yes,
it
makes
sense
because
of
the
fire
safety
hazard,
but
you
know
how
do
you
get
there?
It
is
an
important
question.
I
was
also
like
sounds
like
you
said
you
wanted
list
to
come.
D
I
would
also
like
other
folks
that
work
in
in
the
mortgage
finance
industry
to
come
and
give
us
some
more
information
about
what
again.
This
can't
just
be
focusing
on
the
affordable
housing
space.
We
know
what
affects
the
market
and
other
the
market
rate
space
is
gonna
affect
the
court
warehousing
space
and
everybody.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
smart
about
that
as
well.
Julie.
A
W
councilmember
Branson
time
Winston
we'll
take
it,
take
care
of
that
for
you
as
well,
okay,
so
a
great
meeting,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
infinite
and
participation
again.
If
there's
any
comment
prior
to
our
meeting
next
week,
feel
free
to
contact
me
directly
on
this
as
Weidman
regarding
those
again
Fred
and
Lee
will
be
working
towards
putting
those
recommendations
together.
So
I
think
they
may
have
a
work
in
Memorial
Day
weekend.
So
thank
you
Fred
and
leave
for
what
you're
doing
for
us
and
I
call
the
meeting
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much.