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From YouTube: Charlotte City Council Zoning Meeting - August 22, 202
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Charlotte City Council Zoning Meeting - August 22, 202
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D
Tonight's
zoning
meeting
is
being
held
in
accordance
with
applicable
law
governing
remote
meetings
with
some
council
members
participating
remotely
the
requirements
of
notice,
access
and
minutes
are
met,
as
required
by
law.
The
public
and
the
media
are
able
to
view
this
meeting
on
the
government
channel
the
city's
facebook
page
or
on
the
city's
youtube
page.
D
We
will
start
tonight,
as
we
often
do
with
introductions.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Staff.
D
We
will
begin
our
meeting
with
an
invocation
expressions
and
inspiration
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
The
invocation
by
the
council
member
is
intended
to
solemnize
our
proceedings.
We
celebrate
the
religious
diversity
of
our
community,
including
those
without
a
religious
faith.
Tonight
council
member
johnson
will
give
our
invocation
mr
johnson.
E
We
can
bow
our
heads
dear
lord.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
your
people.
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
opportunity
to
to
stand
beside
these
humble
servants.
Please
bless
them
in
their
future.
Endeavors
come
let
your
wisdom
fall
upon
this
council
meeting
and
give
us
the
clarity
and
the
strength
and
the
courage
to
do
what's
right
for
the
people
of
charlotte
as
public
servants,
we
must
always
focus
on
the
healing
the
present
protecting
the
good
and
preparing
a
bright
future
for
our
great
city.
E
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D
D
So
now
I
will
go
through
a
short
explanation
of
the
zoning
process.
The
process
begins
with
applications
submitted
to
the
planning
staff
for
review.
The
cases
of
there
are
cases
of
two
types
on
the
agenda.
Decisions
and
hearings.
Decisions
on
cases
for
which
a
public
hearing
was
previously
previously
held
will
have
no
further
public
comment.
D
Hearings
for
hearings.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
is
asked
to
see
the
clerk
before
the
start
of
the
hearing.
Staff
will
have
a
a
presentation
which
will
not
have
a
time
limit.
The
petitioner
and
those
in
favor
will
get
three
minutes
combined
to
present
their
case
unless
their
opponent
signed
up
to
speak
or
if
steph
is
in
opposition.
D
Petition
goes
to
the
zoning
committee
of
the
planning
commission
for
review
and
recommendation.
Our
zoning
meetings
tend
to
go
long.
We
usually
operate
under
a
10
pm
recess.
The
city
council
may
recess
zoning
meetings
at
10
pm
and
reconvene
at
a
later
date.
I
did
mention
the
zoning
committee
of
the
planning,
commission
and
I'll,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
introduce
themselves
and
go
over
that
process.
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilman
winston
and
thank
you
council,
I'm
phil,
philip
gusman,
chairman
of
the
zoning
committee
of
the
planning
commission.
I
am
I
virtually
or
I
believe
virtually
all
of
my
other
members
are,
that
are
will
be
joining
us
tonight
are
douglas
welton.
My
co-chair,
my
vice
chair,
kiba,
samuel
is
filling
in
for
one
of
our
other
commissioners.
Aaron
barbie
ronnie,
harvard
harvey
melissa,
gaston
courtney,
rhodes
and
will
russell
are
that
continue.
The
zoning
committee
will
meet
on
tuesday
august
30th
at
3,
50
5,
30
p.m.
Q
Virtually
at
that
meeting
the
zoning
committee
will
meet
to
discuss
and
make
recommendations
on
the
petitions
that
have
public
hearings
tonight.
The
public
is
welcome
at
that
meeting,
but
please
note
it
is
not
a
continuation
of
the
public
hearing
that
is
being
held
here
tonight.
Prior
to
that
meeting,
you
are
welcome
to
contact
us
to
provide
input.
You
can
find
contact
information
information
on
each
petition
on
the
city's
website
at
charlotteplanting.org.
D
Now
we
will
go
through
deferrals
and
withdrawals.
All
of
these
can
we
have
several
of
them
for
tonight,
and
all
of
these
can
be
passed
with
one
motion
after
I
read
them
correct.
Thank
you.
D
So
item
number
three
petition
number
20
21-141
is,
as
is,
is
up
for
withdrawal,
that's
by
the
drakeford
company,
which
is
approximately
one
third
of
an
acre
located
on
the
east
side
of
east
34th
street
north
west
west
of
the
plaza
and
east
of
matheson
avenue
in
council
district
one,
mr
ecclestone's
district.
D
There's
one
decision
that
has
been
deferred
is
asking
to
be
referred
as
item
number
four
2021-242
robert
d
dowdy
llc,
approximately
0.19
acres,
located
at
the
southwest
intersection
of
east
35th
street
and
north
mcdowell
street
north
of
charles
street
in
council
district
one,
mr
eggleston's
district.
There
are
four
hearings
that
have
been
deferred
asking
to
be
deferred.
D
The
first
one
is
item
number
19
number
2021-274,
dickerson
realty
florida
incorporated
approximately
0.57
acres
located
on
the
west
side
of
west
carson
boulevard,
north
of
south
mint
street
and
east
of
west
palmer
street
in
council
district
4,
miss
watkington's
district.
That
is
being
asked
to
be
deferred
on
to
september
19th.
D
Item
number
20
2021-281
blue
freight
transport
incorporated,
is
approximately
for
approximately
three
point:
acres
located
on
the
north
side
of
fred
d,
alexander
boulevard
between
oak
street
and
brookshire
boulevard
in
council
district
2,
mr
graham's
district.
That
hearing
is
being
asking
to
be
deferred
to
september
19.
2022
item
number
2021
is
2021-285
by
clearwater
development
partners
incorporated,
which
is
approximately
0.15
acres,
located
on
the
southern
quadrant
of
the
intersection
of
cleveland
avenue
and
east
worthington
avenue,
east
of
south
boulevard
in
council
district
one.
D
Mr
eggleston's
district,
that's
being
asked
to
be
deferred
to
september
19,
2022
and
finally,
item
number
22,
2022-3
joy
homes,
llc
approximately
4.39
acres,
located
on
the
south
side
of
south
tryon
street,
just
north
of
orchard
gate
drive
in
council
district
3,
ms
watlington's
district.
That
hearing
is
asking
to
be
deferred
to
september
19
2022.
D
I
would
make
the
motion
to
to
approve
those
withdrawals.
D
E
D
A
R
R
D
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
that
is
unanimous.
D
Okay,
so
there
are,
there
are
change.
There
are
some
decisions,
we'll
have
changes
that
will
have
been
made
after
the
zoning
committee
vote.
We
will
deal
with
those
votes
on
whether
or
not
to
send
them
when
we
get
to
those
petitions.
D
Yes,
so
with
that
said,
we
will
go
to
item
number
two,
which
is
a
public
comment
on
social
districts.
D
We
are
to
receive
public
comment
on
the
adoption
of
chapter
15,
article
15
to
the
city
code,
to
allow
social
districts
in
the
city
of
charlotte
the
proposed
new
ordinance,
an
amendment
section
15-3,
which
only
adds
reference
to
article
15,
are
plans
to
be
presented
to
city
council
for
adoption
consideration
on
august
22nd
2022.
D
D
That
said,
madam
clerk,
I
have
six
speakers.
That's
still
the
case.
There
are
six
speakers.
They
will
have
three
minutes
each.
We
will
start
with
nancy
pearce.
S
Hello,
council,
planning,
commission
and
everyone
else
in
the
room
or
virtual
thanks
for
hearing
us
tonight,
I'm
nancy
pierce.
I
live
in
the
mary
oaks
neighborhood,
which
is
on
the
east
bank
of
the
briar
creek
of
briar
creek
across
from
plaza
midwood.
S
I
actually
support
alcohol
social
districts,
but
I
impose
to
them
if
using
single-use
disposable
plastic
cups
is
the
only
choice
we
have
an
ugly
litter
problem
in
the
city,
mostly
single-use
plastic
food
and
drink
containers,
plaza
midwood
business,
business,
district,
sidewalk,
gutter
and
common.
Oh,
I
just
realized,
there's
photos
here.
How
do
I
change
it?
S
Okay,
plaza
midwood
business
districts,
sidewalk
gutter
and
common
areas
already
have
piles
of
plastic
that
disappear
only
after
heavy
rain
into
our
creeks,
such
as
this
picture.
You
see
in
irwin,
creek
degrading
the
looks
of
our
beautiful
greenway
trails
and
then
into
the
catawba
river,
like
this
and
eventually
into
the
ocean
where
they
live
forever,
including
in
the
human
food
chain
as
harmful
microplastics.
S
We
now
know
that
recycling
has
failed.
Neither
mecklenburg
county
nor
any
private
entity
in
the
county
is
able
to
recycle
this
kind
of
cup,
and
even
if
they
could
most
plastic
cups
and
food
containers
are
so
dirty
and
mixed
with
incompatible
plastic
that
they
can't
be
recycled
anyway,
and
recycling
itself
has
a
large
carbon
footprint.
S
A
district
such
as
plaza
midwood,
for
example,
could
propose
to
build
a
cup
garden
on
a
small
piece
of
unbuildable
space,
where
over
years,
people
could
watch
the
cups,
decompose
and
eventually
grow
flowers.
Public
art
could
champion
protecting
the
environment
and
human
health.
Now
that's
the
kind
of
vibe
that
charlotte
should
be
seeking.
S
D
Perfect
timing-
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
pierce
next
speaker
is
clifton
castillo
and,
as
mr
casillo
makes
it
up
just
for
for
those
citizens
that
are
coming
to
speak
to
us.
This
is
your
time
to
address
us,
so
you
won't
get
any
feedback
from
council
directly
tonight,
but
staff
is
is
taking
notes
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
follow
up
with
any
council
members
and
vice
versa.
Thank
you,
mr
castillo.
You
have
three
minutes
great.
T
I'd
like
to
just
echo
what
nancy
said
and
express
my
appreciation
for
that.
Those
images
are
surprising
to
me,
but
I
serve
as
president
of
the
plasmidwood
merchants
association
and
the
topic
of
social
districts
has
been
on
our
mind
for
quite
a
while
now.
So
I'm
happy
that
we've
reached
the
point
we
have
with
it,
and
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
to
district
1
representative
larkis
larkin
eggleston
for
being
an
excellent
statesman,
we're
going
to
miss
him
and
we're
excited
for
dante
anderson
to
represent
us
very
soon.
T
T
So
we
come
to
you
as
neighbors
and
businesses
working
together
to
create
the
spaces
we
wish
to
live
work
and
play
in
we're
in
support
of
creating
a
social
district
in
the
plaza
mode
area
and
in
noda
to
support
our
small
businesses
and
continue
creating
an
environment
that
encourages
diverse
music,
art.
Dining
and
entertainment,
our
vision
is
one
that
promotes
the
area
as
a
single
pedestrian
destination
accessed
on
foot
bicycle
transit
ride
share
et
cetera,
with
visits
to
multiple
businesses.
T
We
do
not
expect
to
be
included
in
the
process
of
setting
the
rules
for
the
social
district,
including
I'm
sorry.
We
do
expect
to
be
included
in
the
process
of
setting
the
rules
for
this
social
district,
including
times
of
operation,
defining
the
boundaries
signage,
additional
track.
Trash
collection,
receptacles,
acceptable
containers,
sustainable
solutions
are
very
important
to
us.
In
fact,
I
would
go
so
far
as
saying
that
we
would
not
support
the
idea
of
social
districts
if,
if
that
meant
using
single-use
plastics,
so
we're
certainly
on
board
with
nancy
and
our
neighbors.
T
U
Thank
you,
sir
russell
ferguson
here,
and
I
know
many
of
you
recognize
me
from
annoying
you
about
sony
petitions,
which
I
am
not
doing
tonight,
I'm
here,
because
a
part
of
my
practice
is
working
with
small
business
owners
in
the
restaurant
industry
and
I'm
also
on
the
board
on
clifton's
board
with
plasmid
wood
merchants
wanted
to
thank
you
guys
for
putting
us
on
the
agenda
tonight.
U
It's
on
something
that,
as
was
just
mentioned,
that
we
have
been
excited
about
and
interested
in
implementing
for
many
many
months
now
coming
out
of
covid.
There
were
a
lot
of
hard
knocks
taken
on
the
restaurant
industry
and
in
plaza,
midwood
and
many
other
neighborhoods.
We
took
advantage
of
the
pivot
opportunities
were
provided
by
the
city
by
the
state
abc
to
have
drinking
in
public
spaces,
such
as
on
the
street
on
thomas
avenue,
and
in
plaza
midwood
that
went
well
for
us.
U
U
We
think
it's
a
really
important
way
to
activate
the
pedestrian
network
that
this
lane
juice
and
zoning
meeting
is
often
talking
about
in
plasma
midwood.
You
often
have
to
park
far
away
from
where
you're
going
to
to
dine
and
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
biking
and
walking
and
would
like
to
walk
around
and
see
the
sights
see
the
murals
and
and
sort
of
engage
in
friendly
conversation
on
the
go
anyways.
We
think
it's
a
great
idea,
we're
really
open
to
it.
U
I
think
clifton
mentioned
we
have
we've
been
talking
about
compostable
cups
and
other
recyclable
options
for
a
long
time,
and
we've
also
been
looking
at
the
other,
the
other
technicalities.
This
we
look
forward
to
working
with
city
staff
and
we
we
thank
you
for,
hopefully,
your
vote
of
support
tonight.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
ferguson.
Our
next
speaker
is
damon
hammerdinger,
I'm
miss
hammerdinger.
You
have
three
minutes.
K
K
K
D
V
Thank
you
and
I'm
coming
from
noda,
I'm
the
lead
of
the
greenification
committee
for
the
noda
neighborhood
and
business
association,
and
I
believe
the
board
supports
the
social
districts
in
noda,
but
we
do
have
the
same
concern
that
nancy
pierce
expressed
quite
well,
which
is
that
the
plastic
cups
are
going
to
create
a
huge
problem.
V
I
like
the
idea
of
the
of
the
car
cardboard
cups
that
nancy
mentioned
as
well,
so
we
really
hope
that
you
take
this
seriously.
We
are
in
support
of
this,
but
we
really
don't
think
that
the
trash
infrastructure
and
the
environment
can
take
more
plastic.
So
we
look
forward
to
creative
suggestions
from
council,
as
we
move
forward
on
something
that
we
think
will
be
really
exciting.
V
V
D
W
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
this
hearing
tonight.
My
husband
owned
two
restaurants
in
the
gold
district
of
south
end,
so
thank
wilmore
up
to
uptown,
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
social
districting.
W
We
feel
like
the
neighborhood
should
be
as
diverse
in
use
as
it
is.
Our
population
commiserate
with
a
growing
city,
a
couple
of
key
points
we
just
like
for
everyone
to
consider,
as
you
guys
go
through
this
consideration
process,
we
feel
like
social
districting
is
a
niche
development
opportunity
that
provides
a
sense
of
community
and
space
making
and
offers
a
huge
bang
for
our
buck
for
us
to
up
activate
our
neighborhood
and
plan
programming
versus
more
complicated
and
expensive
public
projects
socializing
spaces.
W
The
number
two
point
is
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
have
socializing
spaces
that
go
past
entertaining
and
meet
some
of
the
vital
needs
of
residents
in
our
densely
populated
neighborhood.
In
south
end,
we
also
feel
like
it
will
encourage
walkability
and
benefit
us
for
how
the
district
is
perceived,
based
on
our
image,
the
reduction
in
fear
of
crime
and
four,
we
feel
like
this
supports
the
vitality
and
magnetism
of
a
live
work
play
community.
W
I
certainly
echo
all
of
my
predecessors
have
spoke
spoken
already
and
we
understand
the
concerns.
If
done
right,
we
feel
a
comprehensive
and
simple
strategy
can
lead
to
a
sense
of
community
in
place,
encourage
walkability
business
expansion,
all
with
a
very
ecological
plan
for
management.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
This
davidson
gentleman
doesn't
need
any
introduction,
but
I
will
introduce
them
anyway.
Sam
spencer,
inside.
X
Joke
hello
council
good
evening-
and
I
hope
everybody
here
is
doing
well
at
the
dyson-
has
had
a
great
summer
vacation,
so
just
want
to
point
out
one
thing
really
quickly
in
the
agenda.
It's
under
number
two,
the
establishment
of
any
social
district
in
the
city
of
charlotte,
will
require
future
council
action.
So
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
reason
to
hold
this
up
in
the
time
being,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
out
for
a
couple
things.
X
As
some
of
you
know,
I
used
to
be
an
uber
driver,
and
that
was
something
I
did
in
between
campaigns
and
you
know
to
make
extra
money
like
a
lot
of
different
millennials
and,
if
you've
been
to
south
end
any
time
in
the
past
10
years.
You
know
that
in
a
lot
of
ways
it's
already
a
de
facto
social
district
and
whereas
we
might
have
laws
that
prohibit
open
carrying
of
alcohol
de
jure
de
facto
come
on
we're
adults.
X
Here
we
know
what's
going
on
and
one
of
the
problems
that
I
encountered
as
an
uber
driver
and,
as
somebody
in
south
end
was
that
there
were
a
lot
of
people
who
were
doing
very
dangerous
things
walking
in
the
roads
walking
along
the
train
tracks.
X
You
know.
Clearly
there
is
an
added
element
of
danger
to
the
social
districts,
so
once
we
pass
social
districts
as
we
move
forward
in
our
management
plans,
I
hope
the
council
will
recognize
that
this
is
a
terrific
opportunity
for
us
to
further
meet
our
vision,
zero
goals,
and
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
in
terms
of
streetscape,
walkability,
public
transportation
and
everything
that
we've
worked
on
in
the
past
years
to
prevent
pedestrian
fatalities.
X
D
Thank
you,
mr
spencer,
and
with
that
do
we
need
a
motion
to
close
the
public
comment
I'll
make
that
motion
you
have
a
second.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
thank
you
for
your
second
we'll
go
through
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
H
Y
D
You're
right
sorry,
miss
isil.
V
J
D
Thank
you
very
much.
We
will
move
on
to
item
number
four
rezoning
petition,
2021-79.
D
By
piedmont,
capital
llc,
located
approximately
7.88
acres,
located
on
the
north
side
of
wendover
road
west
of
monroe,
road
and
east
of
randolph
road
in
council
district
1..
The
current
zoning
is
a
neighborhood
business
conditional
and
a
proposed
zoning
is
neighborhood
services.
Zoning
committee
voted
five
to
one
recommended.
Denial
of
this
petition
and
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
There
have
been
changes
to
the
petition
after
the
zoning
committee's
vote,
so
I'll
read
those
through
and
we'll
obviously
need
a
vote,
whether
or
not
to
send
it
back
to
the
zoning
committee.
D
The
petition
to
allow
all
uses
in
the
neighborhood
services,
district
and
ede
uses
with
drive-through
and
outdoor
seating
area
within
the
existing
shopping
center.
The
following
changes
were
made
after
the
zoning
committee's
recommendation,
which
added
the
following
notes:
a
petitioner
shall
provide
a
minimum
of
500
square
feet
of
upfitted
office
space
for
on-site
use
for
crossroads,
corporation
incorporated
and
or
affiliated
greer
heights
community
organizations,
including
crossroads
successors,
related
entities
or
mutually
agreed
upon
similar
non-profit
entities.
If
applicable,
offered
rent
free
for
a
minimum
duration
of
10
years.
D
If
at
any
point
in
time
during
the
10-year
duration
of
the
above
office,
space
and
incubator
space
commitment,
crossroads
corporation
incorporated,
declares
in
writing
that
they
no
longer
wish
to
receive
this
benefit.
The
condition
shall
be
deemed
as
satisfied
for
the
purposes
of
this
rezoning
staff
recommendation
is
that
they
believe
the
changes
are
minor
and
were
made
in
coordination
with
the
community
and
do
not
warrant
additional
review
by
the
zoning
committee
motion.
E
Okay,
mr
gusman,
I
had
a
question
because
the
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
one
to
recommend
denial.
I
don't
know
that
I've
seen
numbers
that
high
recommending
denial.
So
I
wanted
to
know
if
these
changes
address
the
concerns
of
the
zoning
committee.
Otherwise,
I'd
like
to
see
it
go
back
to
the
zoning
committee.
E
Z
D
So
also
the
the
state,
the
the
change.
Excuse
me,
the
changes
after
the
zoning
commit
committee
vote
that
have
occurred.
The
council
is
required
to
determine
by
three-quarters
vote
if
these
changes
are
significant.
If
the
changes
are
deemed
significant,
they
will
be
sent
back
to
the
zoning
committee
for
further
review.
So
you
need
a
three-quarters
vote
just
to
just
let
everybody
know.
Okay,.
E
G
G
The
other
instance
I'll
speak
to
it.
If
I
may,
thank
you,
mr
winston,
on
this
one.
I
I
think,
based
on
looking
at
the
zoning
committee's
comments
on
this,
I
think
and
phil
jump
in
the
concern
I
think
was
more
based
around
the
drive-through
use.
He's
nodding.
Yes,
so
I
don't
know
that
these
changes
directly
addressed
the
concerns
that
led
those
commissioners
to
vote
against
it.
I
do
think
I
don't.
G
I
don't
think
anyone
would
disagree
with
the
fact
that
these
changes
are
positive
changes
in
terms
of
meeting
the
needs
and
the
wants
of
the
community.
That's
adjacent
to
this.
This
parcel
so
they're
positive
changes
based
on
reading
the
zoning
committee's
feedback.
I
don't
maybe
it
moves
a
voter
too.
Maybe
it
doesn't
but
they're
what
they
called
out
is
as
their
motives,
I
don't
think,
are
necessarily
addressed
here.
I
will
say
to
the
motion
of
sending
it
back
or
not.
Obviously,
we
have
the
change
over
coming
on
council.
G
This
is
one
where
I've
been
communicating
with
petitioner,
communicating
with
tenants
in
the
shopping
center
working
with
the
neighborhood
on
it
for
longer
than
typical.
I
would
say
for
rezoning
simply
because
there
were
a
lot
of
moving
pieces,
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and
a
lot
of
work
that
was
being
done
with
the
community.
G
My
ask
would
be
that
we
not
send
it
back
because
I
think
I
think
it
a
bit
unfair
to
incoming
council
members
who
have
not
had
the
benefit
of
having
those
conversations
and
being
a
part
of
that
work
to
dump
this
in
their
lap
and
ask
them
to
get
up
to
speed
on
it.
G
I
believe
that-
and
I
know
there
are
a
couple
council
members
that
are
not
in
favor
of
this
petition
and
are
going
to
express
why
they
are
not
in
favor
of
the
petition
on
balance,
I
think
that
the
good
outweighs
the
bad
in
this
petition.
I
think
the
work
that
has
been
done
with
the
community
warrants
approval
and
tend
to
support
the
petition.
G
Voting
on
it
then
bringing
on
four
people
who
haven't
and
asking
them
to
get
up
to
speed
on
it
next
month.
So
my
ask
would
be
that
we
not
send
it
back
to
zoning
committee.
I
don't
think
it
changes
their
recommendation
more
than
a
vote
or
two
which
would
still
not
have
them
recommending
it
and
and
that
we
vote
on
it
tonight.
Q
Certainly,
certainly
the
commission's,
as
documented
is,
is
predominantly
all
centered
around
the
drive-through.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
project
looked
in
a
lot
of
ways
to
be
the
right
project
for
the
space,
but
with
the
exception
of
that
drive-through
element.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
phipps.
F
Yeah,
I
do
not.
I
do
not
support
sending
it
back
to
the
zoning
committee,
because
in
looking
at
the
changes
that
have
been
made,
they
look.
They
look
as
if
they
are
concentrated
or
consists
mostly
of
of,
I
guess,
benefits
that
would
accrue
from
a
community
benefit
agreement
and,
as
I
caused
some
of
the
discussions
that
we
had
early
on
about
community
benefits,
I
don't
think
I
thought
we
had
reached
a
conclusion
that
the
city
is
in
no
way
has
any
kind
of
a
role
in.
F
I
guess,
reviewing
or
or
approving
any
kind
of
provisions
that
would
pertain
to
a
community
benefit
agreement
so
that
that
was
my
recollection.
If
I'm
wrong
on
that,
I'm
willing
to
hear
comments
in
their
regards.
Thank
you.
D
I
would
I
will
in
no
way
attempt
to
speak
for
the
mayor,
but
in
discussions
that
I've
had,
she
reminded,
let
me
put
it
out
there.
We
do
not
have
a
policy,
a
city
council
policy
that
relates
to
community
benefit
agreements
as
of
right.
Now
we
have
it
as
an
aspirational
goal
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
2040
plan,
but
we
do
not
have
a
standing
policy
on
how
we
deal
with
community
benefit
agreements.
G
As
a
response
to
that-
and
I
believe
that
we're
looking
at
this
the
same
way,
we
would
look
at
an
elected
election
by
a
developer
to
offer
affordable
housing
in
that
the
city
cannot
require
affordable
housing
and
base
their
vote
on
whether
or
not
that
affordable
housing
is
included,
but
a
developer
can
propose
to
offer
it
and
it
can
be
part
of
the
notes
of
a
rezoning.
In
this
case
there
was
no.
G
There
was
no
demand
that
these
community
benefits
be
offered.
They
were
simply
offered,
and
so
I
think
that's
where
we're
in
the
clear
there,
because
it
was
not
a
requirement
of
the
city
that
they
do
that
to
get
the
approval
of
the
rezoning,
though
I
agree,
these
are
all
these
are
all
benefits
to
the
community.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
our
folks
online?
I
don't
see
anything.
Ms
johnson
has
another
question.
E
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
these
are
that
the
zoning
committee
is
volunteers
in
the
committee
and
again
this
this.
This
number
seems
very
high,
that
their
vote
that
they're
proposing
that
it's
denied.
So
I
think
the
fact
that
there
are
these
changes.
I
I
think
that
it's
just
to
send
it
back
to
the
zoning
committee
for
them
to
make
the
recommendation
to
council
well
another.
G
Yeah,
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
the
point,
but
I
think
what
mr
gusman's
indicated
is
that
it
will
come
back
to
council
more
or
less
along
the
same
lines
as
what
we
have
today.
So
I
certainly
think
that,
if
that
you,
a
council
member's
opinion,
merits
and
no
vote,
I
think
that's
appropriate,
and
I
would
certainly
understand
it's
not
these
changes.
Based
on
what
mr
gusman
has
said,
what
our
information
we
have
in
advance
said
is
not
going
to
mean
that
they
come
back
suddenly
recommending
it.
It
would
likely
still
be
5-1
against.
G
Maybe
it's
4-2
against,
so
council
will
be
in
the
same
position
as
we're
in
tonight,
which
is
do
we
side
with
staff
in
the
community
who
have
reached
out
to
us
via
email
and
said
they
believe
this
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community,
or
do
we
side
with
the
zoning
committee
who
has
said
they
they
don't
believe
this
is
is
best
because
of
the
drive-through
use,
you'll,
be
in
the
same
position,
making
the
same
decision
next
month,
but
with
four
council
members
who
haven't
been
privy
to
all
the
conversations
and
all
the
work.
G
D
Very
much
mr
bukhari
you're
recognized.
Z
D
Thank
you
very
much
with
that.
We
will.
Unless
we
have
anybody
else
online,
we
will
call
the
question
on
the
substitute
motion.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
D
W
D
Mr
driggs,
no,
mr
bukhari,
no,
mr
newton!
No,
mr
graham.
J
D
F
D
Mr
eggleston,
yes,
ms
watlington,
yes,
miss
isil.
R
R
R
D
Okay,
so
with
that
vote
that
vote
passes
so
now
we
will
have
to
have
a
vote
to
a.
G
G
There
are
others
in
terms
of,
I
think,
the
long
term
assuring
the
long-term
stability
of
the
grocery
that
is
located
in
the
shopping
center.
But
for
that
grocery
store,
this
would
be
a
food
desert.
Mr
winston,
I
had
a
good
conversation
earlier
today
on
points
that
we
largely
agree
on
in
terms
of
not
being
fans
of
drive
through
uses
and
a
couple
other
things
that
I'm
sure
he
will
outline
here
momentarily.
G
G
They
believe
this
is
a
net
benefit
to
the
community,
so
I
want
to
support
their
wishes
and
I
want
to
support
what
I
think
are
really
genuine
efforts
here
to
to
benefit
the
folks
who
live
in
this
community
and
the
jobs
it'll
create
that
are
walkable
to
this
community.
Where
not
everybody
has
a
car,
not
everybody
maybe
has
access
to
to
to
the
all
as
many
job
opportunities
as
certain
other
parts
of
the
city
do,
and
these
this
will
create
dozens
of
jobs
that
folks
can
walk
to.
G
Y
D
Right,
no
problem,
I
will
recognize
myself
and
first
say
you
know,
I
think,
start
with
the
good.
I
think
that
there
are
some
really
good
things
that
happen
here
with
this
petition.
D
You
know,
as
I
stated
earlier,
we
don't
have
policies
surrounding
community
benefits
agreements,
and
I
know
there
was
some
consummation
around
this
topic
during
the
comprehensive
2040
plan
process
about
what
does
this
look
like
what
you
know?
How
are
you
going
to
go
about
administering
this?
I
I
think
if,
if
and
when
we
do,
council
does
get
into
those
conversations.
D
We
should
look
towards
this
petition
because
I
think
this
is
something
what
a
community
benefit
agreement
can
and
should.
Look
like
you
know.
The
community
organized
is
organized
utilized
that
that
that
organizing
entity
to
communicate
effectively
and
efficiently
with
the
petitioner-
and
they
came
up
with
something
that
they
think
is-
is
mutually
beneficial
and
and
and
it
fits
within
all
of
the
confines
of
you
know
our
standing
policy.
D
So,
as
we
think
about
you
know
creating
this
something
that
doesn't
exist-
let's,
let's,
let's,
let's
bookmark
this
one,
please,
but
I
I
will
not
be
in
in
support
of
this.
I
do
not
think
that
this
is
the
proper
land
use
for
this
area.
I
don't
think
this
is
the
proper
land
use
for
the
types
of
of
urbanism
that
are
needed
in
different
parts
of
town.
D
Obviously,
this
this
part
of
town
has
a
right
now,
a
a
a
lighter,
a
level
of
urbanism
that
is
becoming
more
dense
and
and
and
needs
to
be
more
walkable.
D
But,
as
I've
been
thinking
about
this
over
the
past
month
or
so,
my
concern
has
also
turned
towards
this
idea
of
food
deserts
and
we
do
have
in
our
comp
2040
planning
planning
document
the
the
the
need,
the
desire
to
look
at
putting
growth
strategies
on
the
ground
that
affect
food
deserts,
but
I
think
that
there
are
some
false
pretenses
here.
D
Yes,
a
food
desert
is
created
when
you
don't
have
access
to
high
quality,
nutrient-rich
food,
but
also
part
of
being
a
food
desert
is
the
abundance
of
high
caloric
low
nutrient
high
sodium
rich
foods,
specifically
those
types
of
foods
that
you
find
in
places
like
drive-through,
fast
food,
restaurants.
D
Somehow,
and
for
some
reason,
we
are
accepting
that
you
have
to
include
a
source
of
a
food
desert,
a
source
of
of
of
nutrition
that
leads
to
high
obesity
and
and
many
other
different
types
of
health
outcomes
and
and
and
and
determinants
of
health,
to
to
say
that
that
is
needed
to
to
keep
a
fresh
food
source
present.
Honestly,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
speak
to
specifically
the
black
community.
D
We
can't
fall
into
the
traps
of
of
of
of
practices
that
that
kill
us
and-
and
I
have
fear
that
we
are
going
to
set
a
precedent
here
that
will
be
used
over
and
over
and
over
again
in
different
parts
of
town
that
are
going
to
tie
the
need
for
fast
food
to
be
included
in
places
to
prevent
food
deserts.
I
believe
that
is
an
oxymoron
and
it
should
not
be
something
that
we
settle
for
as
we
move
forward.
D
I
hope
if
this
passes
this
is
a
one-time
thing,
but
I'm
for
sure
that
the
development
community
is
going
to
catch
on
and
and
and
use
this
to
back
other
communities
into
corners.
I
don't
think
this
is
smart
development.
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
work
out
for
the
best
nature
of
the
community.
Thank
you.
H
I
have
worked
with
several
neighbors
over
on
the
west
side
to
execute
similar
type
agreements
through
the
conditional
rezoning
process,
and
I
must
say
that,
as
we
move
closer
and
closer
to
the
essential
elimination
of
conditional
rezonings,
we
lose
more
and
more
opportunities
to
get
agreements
done.
Just
like
this.
We
know
that
the
city
cannot
enforce,
but
at
least
we
can
document
via
site
plan
amendments
or
whatever
else
what
commitments
have
been
made
to
the
community,
and
I
think
that
we
deceive
ourselves.
H
If
we
think
the
distance
we've
got
to
be
careful
not
to
miss
the
forest
for
the
trees,
we
we're
talking
about
a
food
desert,
I'm
not
willing
to
wager
an
ideal
of
not
wanting
to
have
a
drive-through
with
an
actual
grocery
store,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
community
has
been
very
clear.
We
need
food,
we
don't
care
about
whether
there's
a
drive-through.
H
If
we
don't
choose
to
use
the
drive-through,
we
won't
but
to
say
that
on
principle,
I'm
going
to
make
a
decision
that
is
going
to
cause
a
grocery
store
to
leave
a
community,
because
I
don't
believe
in
drive-throughs.
I
think
we're
doing
the
very
people
we're
serving
a
disservice.
We've
got
to
protect
the
opportunity
for
nutritious
food
we
can
educate.
We
can
talk
about
in
the
future
how
we
can
develop
in
such
a
way
that
we
don't
have
to
have
drive-throughs,
but
I
think
that
it
is.
H
It
is
a
place
of
privilege
to
be
choosing
to
deny
people
access
to
food,
because
we
don't
like
the
package
that
it
comes
in
and
I'm
not
saying
that.
That's
that's
exactly
where
you're
coming
from,
and
I
think
we
got
to
be
careful
about
weighing
ideals
against
people's
basic
needs,
and
so
with
that
I'll
be
supporting
this
petition,
and
I
look
forward
to
the
work
that
we're
going
to
do
to
create
opportunities
for
community
benefit
agreements
to
keep
their
teeth.
Thanks.
F
Having
met
with
the
leadership
of
greer
heights
community,
they
have
some
challenges
there
in
their
community,
and
I
can
appreciate
in
looking
at
the
provisions
of
this
community
benefits
agreement
that
I
applaud
them
for
the
work
that
they
have
done
to
reach.
This
point
directly
across
the
street
from
this
site
is
a
significant
multi-family
project
adjacent
to
the
site
is
another
significant
multi-family
project.
Then
you
have
the
community,
that's
adjacent
to
it
and
a
host
of
businesses
all
around.
F
So
I
think
you're
going
to
have
a
combination
of
people
that's
willing
to
to
to
walk
to
these
places,
even
though
this
wendover
road
is
a
major
thoroughfare
with
about
a
little
over
23
000
vehicles
a
day
moving
through
that
corridor.
Of
course,
some
of
them
are
gonna.
Gonna
take
the
opportunity,
as
they
might
drive
past
it
they're
gonna
stop
in.
So
I
agree
with
miss
waddlington
that-
and
I
agree
with
mr
eggleston
that
I
think
the
benefits
far
outweigh
the.
F
I
guess
the
just
the
negatives
associated
with
this
petition.
So
I
look
forward
to
voting
in
favor
of
it
tonight.
D
I
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
want
a
clarification.
Last
time
I
heard
food
lion
did
not
indicate
at
all
that
they
their
existence
at
this
shopping
center.
Had
anything
to
do
with
this
drive-through
is:
has
that
changed.
G
I
can
speak
to
that,
mr
eggleston,
so
this
is.
This
is
not
a
if
this,
then
that
no
no
statement
to
that
degree
has
been
made,
but
I
have
spoken
to
leadership
with
food
lion
several
months
back,
who
indicated
that
they
believe
that
this
investment
in
the
shopping
center
will
solidify
their
ability
to
be
successful
there.
This
is,
I
think,
in
comparison
to
other
locations,
they
have
probably
currently
an
underperforming
one,
but
there
is
a
revitalization
going
on
at
the
shopping
center.
G
That
includes
in
part
what
we
are
voting
on
tonight,
but
also
the
opening
of
a
new
goodwill
store
just
four
days
ago
and
and
a
lot
of
other
improvements
at
the
shopping
center
that
they
believe
will
allow
them
to
be
more
successful
moving
forward
than
they
have
been
up
until
now
and
will
allow
them
to
recommit
themselves
to
the
shopping
center.
G
So
there
is
no
direct
promise
that
if
we
approve
this
they'll
stay,
if
we
deny
this
they'll
go,
but
it
is
my
belief
based
on
the
conversations
I've
had
with
them,
that
the
two
things
are
related.
I
Thank
you.
I
I
don't
I've.
I
appreciate
the
updates,
especially
from
the
crossroads
corporation.
I
still
just
don't
you
know
we
we've
we've
said
that
we
don't
want
to
support
continuing
to
add
drive-throughs.
I
We
said
that
the
comprehensive
plan,
yet
we
make
exceptions
every
time
there
is
a
drive-through,
so
I'm
I
would
still
be
a
no
on
this
petition
because
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
commitment
that
food
line
would
even
stay
there
and
if
the
shopping
center
does
show
potential
for
investment,
then
I
think
that's
great.
Then
then
let
it
continue
to
develop,
but
diverting
that
kind
of
traffic
into
that
shopping
center
with
drive-through
lines.
I
I
just
don't
see
how
I
don't
know.
I
I
can't
wrap
my
head
around
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
for
sure
that
food
lion
did
not
say
unless
we
know
that
that
the
what
was
it
chick-fil-a
and
a
starbucks
is
coming
here,
we're
not
staying
so
I
I
still
am
not
in
support
of
this
petition.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
precisely.
Yes,
I
did
not
receive
any
correspondence
from
food
lions
saying
that
I
would
also
point
out
if
the
business
models
are
around
drive-throughs,
where
people
don't
get
out
and
do
other
things
like
shop
in
a
supermarket.
I
fail
to
see
the
correlation
between
the
retention
of
a
supermarket
and
the
existence
of
drive-through
centric
restaurants.
D
With
that
said,
there's
been
a
a
a
properly
made
and
seconded
motion
to
adopt.
D
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
so
we
will
go
through
the
roll
call
vote.
I
am
a
no
miss
johnson.
E
I
D
D
Yes,
five
has
been
deferred
decision
on
rezoning
petition
2021-249
by
mill,
creek
residential.
D
Location
of
approximately
25.46
acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
steel,
creek
road,
south
of
the
intersection
with
sledge
road
and
council
district,
three
miss
watlington's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
r3
single
family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
mx2,
innovative
and
ns
neighborhood
services,
mixed
use,
innovation
and
neighborhood
services.
The
zoning
committee
voted
six.
No
to
recommend
approval
of
this
position
and
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
this
position.
Pardon
me,
while
I
pull
up
just
to
make
sure
that
there
have
been
there
have
been
no
changes
made.
D
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
sorry
adopt
the
zoning
committee
statement
of
consistency,
as
it
appears
in
our
agendas
and
on
the
screen
as
the
councils
own
and
approve
or
deny
the
petition
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve?
Do
I
have
a
second.
G
D
A
different
petition,
the
motion
has
been
properly
moved
and
seconded.
Do
we
have
any
discussion,
miss
watlington.
H
Thank
you
I
previously
sent
to
the
council
the
comments
from
the
steel
creek
resident
association
regarding
this
one.
It's
nothing
new
we've
been
talking
about
for
quite
some
time.
160
is
jam-packed
we're
busting
at
the
seams
in
steel
creek.
We
are
receiving
no
relief
from
ncdot
to
date
and,
as
such,
the
steel
creek
resident
association
and
the
local
neighbors
have
indicated
that
they
are
not
supportive
of
any
additional
growth
here.
Without
expansion
of
the
state
roads.
D
Thank
you,
miss
watlington.
Is
there
any
other
comment,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote?
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
AA
A
K
R
D
That
motion
does
pass
a
seven
to
three
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
to
item
number
seven
rezoning
petition
2021-252
by
wp,
east
acquisitions,
llc
location,
is
approximately
3.1
acres
located
on
the
southeast
intersection
of
siegel
avenue
and
east
10th
street
north
of
central
avenue
and
east
of
I-277
in
council
district
1..
The
current
zoning
is
b2
general
business
on
a
proposed
zoning
as
tod
neighborhood
center.
The
zoning
committee
voted
5-0
to
recommend
approval
of
this
petition,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
position.
D
D
A
second
emotion
has
been
properly
moved
and
seconded
with
any
comment
or
discussion.
Hearing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
D
Mr
phipps,
yes,
mr
eggleston,
yes,
miss
watlington,
yes,
miss
isil,.
V
R
D
Graham,
yes,
that
is
unanimous
approval.
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
to
item
number
eight
rezoning
petition
2021-254
by
joseph
horton,
located
approx,
locate
location
as
approximately
two
point:
one:
eight
acres
located
on
the
southwest
intersection
of
galleria
boulevard
in
monroe
road,
south
of
sardis
road
north
in
council
district
six,
mr
bukhari's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
neighborhood
services
and
the
present
proposed
zoning
is
neighborhood.
Zoning
neighborhood
services
site
plan
amendment.
This
is
a
first
that
I
have
seen.
D
I
think
staff
has
seen
that
zoning
committee
made
no
recommendation,
provided
no
motion
made
by
the
zoning
committee
received
the
needed
four
votes
to
carry
it
forward.
You
can
see
the
included
zoning
committee's
report
for
summary,
of
that
discussion.
Staff
does
recommend
approval
of
this
petition.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
this
adoption
proof
so
the
motion
just
just
to
just
to
clarify
mr
bukhari's
motion.
The
motion
would
be
to
approve
this
petition
and
adopt
the
staff's
statement
of
consistency
as
it
appears
on
the
screen.
AB
L
D
So
I
believe
we
have
a
a
properly
made
in
second
motion.
That's
correct.
Did
I
see
a
question
from
the?
Can
we
take
a
question
from
the
zoning
committee
if
there
was
one
I've,
I
see
a
question
from
the
zoning
committee.
Q
D
Thank
you
for
that
context.
I
will
make
a
comment
as
well.
I
will
be.
I
will
not
be
voting
to
support
this
and
it
has
to
do
with
the
existence
of
drive-throughs.
As
I'm
as
I
look
at
this
part
of
town
again,
it
is,
it
is
developing
with
a
certain
level
of
urbanism,
a
certain
level
of
density.
D
If
you
look
on
both
the
charlotte
side
as
well
as
the
matthew
side,
you
have,
the
types
of
development
that
were
are
are
moving
towards
more
pedestrian
related
urbanism,
even
taking
out
the
future
silver
line.
If
you
look
at
the
amenities
that
are
in
walking
distance,
that
is
the
type
of
place
where
we
want
to
highlight
a
level
of
urbanism
that
that
further
promotes
pedestrian
and
bicycle
traffic.
D
I
would
also
go
back
to
one
of
the
first
contentious
rezonings
that
I
I
took
part
on
last
last
council
on
nali
court.
That
was
to
put
several
apartments
for
55,
plus
and
and
one
of
the
the
contentions
there
that
got
disapproved.
D
There
was
concerns
which
always
is
about
traffic
and
the
id
one
of
one
of
the
negotiations
that
mr
bukhari
worked
really
hard
on.
Getting
getting
that
getting
that
over
the
finish
line
was
that
this
was
a
population
that
was
not
going
to
be
very
dependent
on
college.
Car
trips
was
not
going
to
be
driving
their
vehicles
and
in
fact
it
was
because
of
their
location
in
walking
distance
to
amenities
like
this
restaurant
city,
barbecue
and
on
and
other
stores
and
and
amenities
in
walking
distance.
D
So
you
know
we
we've
definitely
made
policy
decisions
to
make
this
particular
area
more
pedestrian-centric,
and
we
should
continue
to
focus
on
that.
So
therefore,
I
will
be
in
opposition
to
this
miss
johnson.
E
Thank
you,
mr
winston.
I'm
not
I'm
not
opposed
to
this
one
or
the
previous
one,
just
because
of
the
drive-through.
My
concern
is
the
zoning
committee.
It's
a
group
of
volunteers,
it's
it's
not
our
city
staff.
These
are
individuals
that
take
deep
dives
into
these
petitions
now
and
we
know
as
district
representative.
If
a
petition
is
not
in
our
district,
we
are
not.
We
we're
not
really
looking
into
the
details
on
all
of
them,
so
I
we
have
to
trust
our
committees.
E
So
I
I
just
it's
concerning
that
after
two
months,
the
zoning
committee
cannot
come
to
a
recommendation
either
way.
If
you
look
through
our
our
book,
we
don't
see
the
zoning
the
zoning
committee
protest
or
from
wish
to
deny
petitions
very
often.
So
I
think
that
that
weighs
heavy,
or
I
know
that
that
weighs
heavy
on
my
decision
and
so
for
that
I'm
not
going
to
be
supporting
this
one
either.
Thank
you.
F
Yes,
ms
johnson,
I
can
appreciate
your
comment
about
the
zoning
book,
but
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
I'm
an
outlier
or
not,
but
I
read
the
thing
from
cover
to
cover
and
and
it's
pretty
frustrating
getting
that
book
on
a
thursday
and
having
my
person
to
deliver
it
to
tell
me
to
have
a
nice
weekend
so,
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
get
clarity
on.
F
F
So
if
I
can
get
a
copy
of
our
current
thinking
on
drive-throughs,
if
we
prohibited
them,
because
I
don't
see
that
it's
appropriate
to
start
off
a
petition
that
says
well,
it's
got
to
drive
through
boom,
no
go
so
so
I
would
like
to
get
some
clarity
on
that
and
would
like
to
see
what
provisions
that
we
have.
You
know
in
our
policies
and
with
respect
to
drive-through.
AC
That's
something
I
think
we
can
do
a
follow-up
for
council,
because
it
can
get
nuanced,
but
I'd
say
the
way
it's
proposed
in
the
udo
is
that
all
zoning
districts,
except
those
in
the
commercial
zoning
and
manufacturing
logistics,
a
drive-through
facility-
will
only
be
allowed
if
it
was
located
on
the
site
at
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance.
C
H
Did
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
essentially,
this
petition
is
just
asking
to
be
able
to
add
a
drive
through
to
an
existing
business.
Is
that
correct,
councilmember,
bakari.
H
Thank
you.
So
this
is
where
I
struggle
in
regards
to
this
whole
drafter
piece
and
even
as
miss
craig,
you
just
explained,
our
udo
is
going
to
take
a
position
that
we
cannot
add
additional
drive
throughs.
If
you
will,
or
at
least
about
right.
I
just
find
it
baffling.
We
have
an
establishment
here
who
needs
customers.
Some
of
those
customers
live
within
walking
distance.
Many
don't
so.
H
The
people
who
don't
live
within
walking
distance
are
probably
going
to
drive
there
they're,
probably
not
going
to
ride
a
bike
down
monroe
road
to
get
there
and
when
they
get
there,
if
there's
no
drive-through
well,
then
they
need
to
park.
But
then,
on
the
flip
side
we
say
we
want
to
get
rid
of
parking
minimums.
Where
exactly
do
we
expect
these
cars
to
go?
H
I
just
want
to
caution
us
again
that
we
talk
about
these
platitudes
and
we
talk
about
these
goals,
but
when
it
comes
to
practice,
is
it
really
driving
better
outcomes
for
our
businesses
and
for
our
people?
In
this
case,
I
don't
see
how
not
allowing
a
drive-through
is
going
to
improve
the
situation
here.
The
business
is
going
to
have
customers
come
from
somewhere,
so
whether
or
not
they
get
out
of
their
cars
and
park
and
leave
their
car
somewhere,
which
that
has
its
own
issues
or
they
drive
through
and
continue
on
their
way.
D
Thank
you
was
that
was.
Was
there
any
question
directed
my.
Z
Z
It
seems
lately
without
a
policy
which
now
we've
we've
noted
with
our
position
here
as
a
as
an
entire
governing
body
of
council
on
this
topic.
Z
We
actually
invest
in
the
infrastructure
necessary
to
make
that
utopia
an
actual
plausible
reality
in
the
future,
because
right
now
we
keep
having
the
same
conversation
not
based
in
policy,
and
the
last
thing
that
we
all
fought
over
was
over
there
on
woodlawn,
where,
if
you
haven't
been
around
woodlawn
and
and
the
the
walkable
place,
the
only
walkable
place.
That's
going
on
right
now
is
the
homeless
shelter
that
has
occurred
inside
that
gas
station.
Z
So
much
continue
to
push
this
narrative
forth
and
have
this
issue
there.
This
is
not
a
zoning
committee
thing.
We
need
you
to
weigh
in
on.
It
is
our
policy
and
we
need
you
to
call
balls
and
strikes
inside
our
policy
and
if
we
want
to
get
serious
about
drive-throughs,
we
as
a
body
outside
of
zoning,
need
to
get
serious
about
that.
E
I
guess
my
follow
will
be
for
mr
bakari
and
I
guess
the
zoning
committee
well,
it's
from
mr
gusman
was
the
the
drive-through.
The
only
reason
that
that
you
all
weren't
able
to
to
make
a
recommendation
are
there
individuals
on
the
zoning
committee.
Excuse
me
I'm
sorry,
mr
larkin
mister.
E
Why
is
it
that
the
zoning
committee
is
having
trouble
with
that?
Is
it
because
there
are
members
that
are
totally
opposed
of
drive-throughs,
or
was
there
an
effect
on
the
community
that
you
all
saw
and
and
weren't
willing
to
approve
there.
Q
Was
it
was
the
proximity
to
the
silver
line
itself,
there's
an
easement
on
this.
That
is
also
an
addition
in
this.
In
this
site
plan
for
the
silver
line,
the
silver
line
literally
takes
some
of
their
property
appreciated.
Q
And
it
was
specifically
that
you're
going
to
be
sitting
in
a
drive
through
looking
at
the
trains
as
they
go
by
idling
and
per
our
udo
goals,
which
granted
we've
been
working
on
on
the
zoning
committee
and
the
planning
committee
of
the
zoning
commission
for
years.
As
all
of
you
have,
we
could
not
unconscious
the
people
who
voted
against
the
approval
of
this,
at
least,
could
not
approve
it.
We
also
had
three
votes
at
other
times.
That
would
support
it.
It
was
really
was
a
split
decision
over
two
months.
F
I
was
wondering,
and
looking
at
the
discussion
notes
that
it
was
was
it
could.
Would
you
say
it
was
also
a
function
that
two
committee
members
were
absent.
Q
That
that
was
part
of
it.
We
there
was
a
a
a
death
and
there
was
also
thunderstorms
that,
because
we
were
meeting
virtually
shut
out
actually
a
couple
of
people,
and
so
we
were
down
a
man
or
two
so
to
speak,
and
that
is
part
of
probably
what
contributed
but
the
next
month.
Even
when
we
did
it
again,
we
were
down
one
person.
We
still
could
not
generate
four
votes
for
it.
D
U
D
So
we
have
a
motion
that
has
been
properly
made
and
seconded
unless
I
see
any
hands
we're
going
to
close
discussion,
we'll
go
to
the
roll
call
vote,
I'm
a
no
miss
johnson.
V
R
D
Mr
graham,
yes,
and
that
that
is
approved
eight
to
one,
we
move
on
to
item
number
nine
rezoning
petition,
2021
um-266
by
seer
ventures,
approximately
8.13
acres
located
on
the
south
side
of
roswell's
ferry
road
at
yellowstone
drive
in
council
district
2,
mr
graham.
D
The
current
zoning
is
i1
in
b2
light,
industrial
and
general
business,
and
the
proposed
zoning
is,
you
are
to
cd
urban
residential
conditional.
The
zoning
committee
recommends
on
a
5-0
vote
to
recommend
approval
of
this
petition,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
position.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
zoning
committee's
statement
of
consistency,
as
it
appears
in
our
agendas
and
on
the
screen
as
the
council's
own
and
to
approve
or
deny
the
petition.
D
I'll
second,
that
motion
has
been
properly
made
and
seconded.
Do
we
have
any
discussion
hearing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote?
Yes,
miss
johnson.
E
F
R
D
R
D
I
think
that
vote
passes
unanimously.
We
will
move
on
to
item
number
10
zoning
petition
2021-273
by
hutton
street
21
llc
location,
approximately
1.66
acres
bound
by
the
south
side
of
wyalong
drive
west
side
of
idlewild
road
on
west
side
of
margaret
wallace
road,
north
side
of
mittworth
avenue
and
council
district
5.
Mr
newton's
district,
the
current
zoning
as
ns
neighborhood
services
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
b2cd
general
business
conditional.
D
The
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
nothing
to
recommend
approval
of
this
position.
Petition
and
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
zoning
committee
statement
of
consistency,
as
it
appears
in
our
agendas
and
on
the
screen
as
the
council's
own
and
to
approve
or
deny
the
petition.
D
Hearing
none,
I
will
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
D
Mr
phipps,
yes,
mr
eggleston,
yes,
miss
wadlington,
yes,
mr
driggs,
yes,
mr
bukhari,
yes,
mr
newton,
yes,
mr
graham,
yes
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
11,
rezoning
petition,
2021-276
by
mccraney
property
company
location,
approximately
44.95
acres
located
on
I-85
service
roads
southwest
of
the
I-85
I-485
interchange.
D
This
is
in
the
etj
in
county
commission
district
2,
miss
league's
district
and
closest
to
county
city
council
district
number:
three,
ms
watlington's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
r3
air,
llwpa,
single
family,
residential
airport,
noise
overlay,
lower
lake
wildly
protected
area.
The
proposed
zoning
is
I-1
cd,
air
llwpa
or
light
industrial
conditional
airport
noise
overlay,
lower
lake
wildly
protected
area.
The
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
nothing
to
recommend
approval
of
this
petition,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
seeing
no
other
hands
or
names
on
the
screen.
We'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
E
A
D
Driggs,
yes,
mr
bakari,
yes,
mr
newton,
yes,
mr
graham,
yes,
that
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
item
12..
Zoning
petition
2021-278
by
dream,
acres
llc,
the
loca
location,
is
approximately
6.33
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
harrisburg
road,
north
of
parkton,
road
and
west
of
cedarbrook
drive
in
council
district
5,
mr
newton's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
r4
single
family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
r6
single
family
residential.
The
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
nothing.
To
recommend
approval
of
this
petition.
Staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
D
AD
D
L
Hey
max,
you
need
to
move
to
approve,
he
did,
but
the
motion
was
move
or
deny
and
he
said
so
moved.
He
needs
to
move,
to,
adopt
and
approve
and
approve.
Thank.
D
You
thank
you
very
much,
both
mr
newton
and
mr
drix
you're
right.
Do
we
have
any
comments
or
questions
nope,
hearing,
none
and
having
a
motion
that
is
properly
made
and
seconded.
I
will
vote
yes,
mrs
johnson.
E
D
K
D
Congratulations
and
well
done,
mr
graham
you
gotta
mute.
Mr
graham,
yes,
thank
you
very
much
that
motion
mr
newton's
last
motion
passes
unanimously.
D
We
will
move
on
to
item
13
petition
number
2021-283
by
elaine
kleininger.
Our
location
is
approximately
0.6
acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
keswick
avenue,
northwest
of
north
tryon
street
and
east
of
north
graham
street
in
council
district
1,
mr
eggleston's
district,
the
current
zoning
is
r5
single-family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
r8
single-family
residential.
The
zoning
committee
recommends
five
to
nothing
to
approve
this
position.
Petition
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
D
E
V
R
D
R
D
D
By
white
point
partners,
location
is
approximately
2.99
acres
located
on
the
west
side
of
yancey
road
and
south
side
of
east
peterson
drive
east
of
south
tryon
street
in
council
district
three
miss
watlington's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
r8
single
family,
residential
and
i2
ts.
Oh
general
industrial
transit,
supportive
optional.
The
proposed
zoning
is
tod
and
c
a
transit
oriented,
oriented
development
neighborhood
center.
The
zoning
committee
voted
5-0
to
recommend
approval
of
this
position,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
D
We
have
a
motion,
that's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded.
Do
we
have
any
conversation,
questions
comments,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
with
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
N
A
D
A
R
D
That
is
also
unanimous.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
item
number
15.
rezoning,
petition,
2022-2
by
cameron,
clt,
south
and
owner
llc.
Locate.
The
location
is
approximately
2.5
acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
south
boulevard,
east
of
old
pineville
road
and
north
of
east
woodlawn
road
in
council
district
3,
miss
watlington's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
i2,
general
industrial
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
todnc
or
transit
oriented
development
neighborhood
center.
The
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
nothing
to
recommend
approval
of
this
petition,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
D
Second,
the
motion
has
been
properly
moved
and
seconded.
Do
we
have
any
comments?
Questions
concerns
seeing
them
by
the
council
we'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes,
ms
johnson,.
E
A
R
AB
That's
just
a
quick
question
matter
of
housekeeping.
So
item
number
12
was
the
item
that
councilmember
newton
made
the
motion
on
and
carried
and
was
approved.
Yes,
item
13,
I
believe
councilmember
eggleston
made
a
motion
on.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
okay,
we're
just
we
were
having
some
discussion
here.
If
we
covered
13.,
I
I
felt
like
we
did.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
all
on
the
same
page.
You
know
we
need
to
slow.
D
D
We're
moving
on
to
no
thank
you
for,
for
the
clarification,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
item
number
17,
rezoning,
petition,
2022
2022-54
by
carolina
farm
trust,
approx,
approximately
2.3,
2.37
acres,
located
on
the
south
side
of
south
hoskins
road
east
of
welling
avenue
and
west
of
roswell's
ferry
road
and
council.
AB
D
C
D
So
we
will
go
back
to
agenda
item
number
16,
rezoning,
petition
2022-19
by
chris
ogurundi
location
of
approximately
3.74
acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
south
tryon
street
and
northeast
side
of
presley
road
east
of
interstate
77
in
council
district
three
miss
watlington's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
b2
general
business
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
todnc
transit,
oriented
development,
neighborhood
center.
D
The
zoning
committee
voted
five
to
nothing
to
recommend
approval
of
this
petition,
and
staff
also
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
zoning
committee's
statement
of
consistency,
as
it
appears
in
our
agendas
and
the
screen
as
the
council's
own
and
to
approve
or
deny
this
petition.
D
We
have
a
motion,
that's
been
properly
moved
in
second,
do
we
have
any
discussion,
miss
watlington?
Yes,.
H
I
would
like
to
ask
mr
grinde
a
couple
of
questions.
If
you
don't
mind
this
one
in
particular,.
AD
H
Thank
you.
My
questions
surround
the
transition
plan
that
you
all
submitted
I'd
like
to
provide
that
for
the
benefit
of
the
greater
council
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
One
of
the
things,
particularly
with
this
petition,
is
that
folks
are
concerned
in
regards
to
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
families
who
live
there.
AD
Well,
thank
you.
We
just
as
concerned
as
everyone
is
with
this
situation
has
gone
across
charlotte.
We
actually
have
partnered
with
crisis
assistance,
ministry
and
they've
actually
brought
on
four
other
agencies
to
assist
with
this.
I
was
actually
on
site
about
two
weeks
ago
meeting
with
residents
and
it's
a
challenge
for
the
entire
city.
We
we
committed
to
them
that
we're
not
going
to
force
anybody
out
so,
and
one
thing
that
we
are
doing
is
basically
collecting
information
from
each
family
and
then
finding
opportunities
to
help
relocate
them.
AD
I
saw
folks
just
living
a
hard
life
in
a
hotel.
That
is
not
it's
not
a
place.
You
would
really
want
your
family
to
live
in,
even
though
that's
the
last
result
for
many
of
our
families,
but
but
we
are
committed
to
make
sure
everybody
is
properly
relocated
through
through
the
efforts
that
we've
put
in
place
and
we're
constantly
communicating
with
city
and
all
we
have
weekly
meetings
with
our
relocation
team.
AD
I
think
I
think
we
have
five
agencies
that
we're
working
with
legal
aid,
social,
serve,
community
link,
christ,
assistance
ministry
and
in
one
of
action,
north
carolina,
so.
H
So
I
saw
in
the
report:
there
were
about
31
families
and
another
group
of
individuals,
and
it
looked
like
there
was
a
cost
associated
with
relocation
and
it
looked
to
be
somewhere
between
about
50
000
and
seventy.
Seven
thousand
dollars
is
an
estimate
and
right
now
have
you
all
been
able
to
find
funding
for
that.
AD
We
are
working
on
it
and
I
was
actually
hoping
to
call
on
all
the
council
members
to
donate
to
their
I'm
just
joking,
just
joking,
but
we
are,
we
are
working
on
making
that
happen.
Yeah.
M
Now,
actually,
I
was
just
about
to
say
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
these
questions
that
you're
asking
that
it's
clear,
that
this
is
outside
of
the
conventional
petition,
that's
being
considered
tonight
and
we
can
get
some
additional
information
for
you.
But
the
questions
that
he's
answering
actually
would
be
outside
of
the
rezoning
process.
M
H
Okay,
to
the
extent
that
this
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
is
a
land
use.
I'll
ask
the
question
whether
or
not
that's
the
best
use
of
the
land
versus
what
the
petition
is.
H
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
from
my
colleagues,
I
get
the
sense
that
perhaps
if
we
were
able
to
defer
this,
we
may
be
able
to
solve
two
problems,
but
I
I
don't
want
to
hold
you
up
if
the
will
of
the
broader
council
is
to
approve
this.
So
I
will
I'd
like
to
hear
from
whoever
else
may
have
comment.
E
That's
needed.
So
I'm
I'm
concerned
with
approving
this
one,
because
when
southern
comfort
was
closing,
you
know
all
hands
were
on
deck.
You
know
the
city
and
county.
You
know
we're
going
to
meetings
to
to
listen
to
the
residents,
but
this
is
our
chance
to
be
proactive
and
sadly
the
developer
is
bearing
the
brunt
of
our
lack
of
housing
or
our
lack
of
resources
in
the
city.
So
I
just
I
ca
if
you
if
we
want
to
defer
it.
E
E
Instead
of
approving
a
petition
and
the
last
petition
that
displaced
the
knowingly
displaced
individuals
wasn't
even
a
direct
result
of
anything
the
city
council
did
this,
one
would
be
so.
For
that
reason,
I
can't
support
it.
G
I
certainly
understand
the
concern,
and
I
know
there's
questions
and
clarifications.
Ms
wellington
would
like
us
to
have
that.
We
aren't
in
a
position
to
ask
simply
because
of
the
rules
we
have
to
operate
under.
What
I
would
say
is
that
for
me,
I
think
that
the
tiebreaker
for
me
is
having
worked
with
mr
grande
before
on
multiple
projects
in
my
district
and
having
seen
his
heart
for
people.
G
I
don't
have
a
sliver
of
doubt
in
my
mind
that
he's
going
to
do
the
right
thing
by
the
people
and
based
on
what
impact
it
will
have
on
them,
as
he
makes
decisions
and
as
he
moves
forward,
we're
this
an
out
of
town
developer
that
I
didn't
know.
I
obviously
wouldn't
have
that
confidence
and
would
probably
want
to
proceed
with
more
caution.
But
having
worked
with
him
on
multiple
occasions
prior
to
this,
that
is
not
a
concern
of
mine
with
this
particular
petitioner.
D
Thank
you,
sir.
So
we
do
have
a
motion.
That's
been
properly
made
in
second
and
do
I
have
any
other
comments
or
questions.
Ms
watlington.
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
my
colleagues.
This
one
does
give
me
heartburn
for
all
the
reasons
that
miss
johnson
said.
H
I
do,
however,
commend
the
work
that
you
have
done,
and
I
do
believe
that
you
specifically
have
demonstrated
an
ability,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
figure
out
something
in
terms
of
a
partnership
with
the
city
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
residents
there
are
successfully
placed,
I
think
for
this
one,
though,
from
a
housing
and
neighborhood
services
standpoint,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
have
to
probably
withdraw
my
motion
and
then
allow
someone
else
to
make
the
motion.
If,
unless
it's
fine.
D
You
have
to
get
the
second
pull
back.
First
right.
D
I'll,
second,
that
so
now
we
do
have
an
another
motion
that
is
made
properly
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
that
motion
hearing
and
seeing
none
we'll
call
the
vote?
I'm
a
yes,
miss
johnson.
E
V
D
Mr
driggs,
yes,
mr
bakari,
yes,
mr
newton,
no,
mr
graham,
yes,
that
motion
does
pass
seven
to
three.
Thank
you.
We
will
now
move
on
to
item
number.
Seventeen.
D
D
J
D
We
have
a
motion,
that's
been
properly
moved
and
seconded.
Do
we
have
any
comment,
mr
eggleston.
J
I
would
like
to
echo
that
as
well
they're
doing
a
great
job
providing
much
needed
food
for
a
a
food
desert.
So
we
look
forward
to
their
occupying
the
building
and
delivering
on
the
promise.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Seeing
no
other
comments,
we'll
move
on
to
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson,
yes,.
AC
A
D
Drakes,
yes,
mr
bukhari,
yes,
mr
newton,
yes,
mr
graham,
yes,
unanimous
vote
to
approve,
thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
to
item
number
18.,
rezoning,
petition
2022-98
by
charlotte
planning,
design
and
development,
approximately
71
acres
located
along
the
south
side
of
oaklawn
avenue,
west
of
andrew
terrace,
north
of
brookshire,
free
freeway
and
east
of
bates
ford
road
in
council
district
one,
mr
eggleston's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
our
five
single
family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
r5hd
single-family
residential
historic
district.
D
F
G
Just
wanted
to
thank
all
the
enthusiastic
engagement
from
the
community
and
for
being
here
last
month
being
here
this
month,
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
on
this
and
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
D
E
D
Drakes?
Yes,
mr
bakari,
yes,
mr
newton,
yes,
mr
grant.
Y
Z
Winston,
I
just
might
add,
aside
from
those
couple
hiccups,
your
tryouts
for
mayor
pro
tem
went
pretty
well
tonight.
I
give
you
a
lot
of
kudos.
D
Will
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
items
for
public
hearing?
We
had
a
number
that
were
deferred
to
a
further
date,
so
we
will
move
to
item
number
23
rezoning
petition
2021-262
by
crd
dilworth
llc.
D
The
location
is
approximately
1.14
acres
located
in
the
western
quadrant
of
the
intersection
of
west
birthington
avenue
and
cleveland
avenue,
cleveland
avenue,
east
of
south
boulevard
council
district
one,
mr
eggleston's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
todm
transit,
oriented
development
mix
optional.
The
proposed
zoning
is
tod,
nc
transit,
oriented
development,
neighborhood
center
conditional
staff
does
recommend
disapproval
with
that.
We'll
have
the
presentation
by
mr
pet.
AB
Thank
you,
2021
262.,
it's
1.14
acres,
as
mentioned
on
worthington
avenue
and
cleveland
avenue,
east
of
south
boulevard,
currently
zone
t-o-d-m-o
proposed
zoning.
The
proposal
just
to
clarify
is
for
two
separate
districts.
It's
for
tod
nc
conditional,
also
there's
a
portion
of
the
property
that
is
looking
for
tod
uc
conditional
as
well
we'll
go
to
that
we'll
get
to
that
slide
one
after
this.
So
next
slide,
please.
AB
So
the
petition
does
not
have
an
associated
site
plan
but
does
commit
to
the
following
development
standards,
as
conditions
does
commit
to
a
parking
minimum,
one
space
per
1,
000
square
feet
of
commercial
uses
and
then
a
parking
minimum
one-half
of
space
per
residential
unit
also
commits
to
a
parking
minimum
one-half
space
per
hotel
room,
and
on
this
slide
you
can
see
where
that
tod
uc
district
boundary
is
that's
the
horizontal
lines
and
then
the
vertical
lines
they're
going
from
worthington
down
towards
tremont,
is
where
the
tod
nc
district
is
being
requested.
AB
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
penn.
We
have
three
speakers,
but
I
believe
mr
brown
will
be
taken
care
of,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
P
Yes,
sir
councilmember
winston
council
members
colin
brown
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner,
this
site
has
been
around
a
bit.
I
might
need
a
tutorial
on
the
reporting
this.
Actually
we
came
to
public
hearing
last
year
on
this
petition.
It
traded
hands.
So
then,
now
there's
a
different
property
owner,
but,
as
dave
mentioned
fairly
simple
petition
can
show
some
advanced
slots.
P
So
here
we
are
at
the
corner
of
worthington
cleveland
next
slide
next
slide
I'll
just
spin
through
these
very
quickly.
This
is
a
look
at
it.
This
site
has
been
waiting
for
development
for
a
number
of
years.
I
think
everyone's
been
watching
next
slide
next
slide.
P
As
dave
mentioned,
this
came
when
this
came
through
last
year.
The
concern
was
well
with
tod.
There
is
no
parking
minimum
and
with
our
conversations
with
the
dca
dealworth
community
association,
the
concern
is
this
is
a
little
bit
just
different,
because
there's
a
historic
district
there,
folks,
literally
adjacent
to
the
site,
cannot
add
more
parking,
so
the
request
from
the
neighborhood
was.
Would
we
do
a
tod
conditional
which
at
the
time
was
the
first?
P
We
said
we
would
add
that
condition
to
have
a
minimum
amount
of
parking,
so
we
basically
restarted
this
process
again
with
just
that
condition.
The
other
part
of
conversation
came
along
where
the
neighborhood
said.
Hey.
Would
you
mind,
since
you
have
a
condition
now,
would
you
imagine
adding
another
condition
to
limit
height
closest
to
cleveland,
and
so
we
did
that
as
part
of
that
conversation,
a
portion
of
our
site,
if
you
can
see
that
that
portion,
which
is
tod
uc,
is
adjacent
to
tod
uc
on
both
sides,
so
everything
around
it
will
be
tod
uc.
P
So
the
agreement
was
yes,
we
would
make
the
amendment
to
add
another
condition
if
you
can
just
next
slide
through
till
you'll,
see
one
that
looks
kind
of
like
a
colored
next
slide
next
slide
next
slide
next
slide.
There
you
go
so
this
is
essentially
what
we
have
now
we
have
the
tod
uc
in
the
red,
which
is
consistent
with
what's
on
both
sides
on
it.
D
I'll
I'll
make
a
comment.
I
I
think
everybody
knows
I
am
I'm
not
for
parking
minimums,
and
you
know
I
definitely
have
concerns
about
precedent.
You
know,
I
think
this
is.
This
is
another
one
I
understand
you
know.
Change
is
difficult
for
neighbors
in
certain
situations
and
conditions,
but
again
the
decisions
that
we
make
sometimes
you
know
are
have
to
have
some
vision,
many
years,
if
not
decades,
down
the
line.
D
So
as
we,
you
know,
try
to
implement
these
policies
that
have
generational
impact,
we
have
to
have
some
fidelity
to
them
and
and
not
start
creating
the
cutouts.
You
know
this
is
part
of
the
a
huge
part
of
the
reason
that
we
we
we
we
set
upon
this.
This
pathway
is
to
become
a
a
planning
city
as
a
as
opposed
to
a
deal-making
city
when
it
comes
to
land
use
development,
so
I've.
I
have
concerns
about
this,
but
maybe
we
can
talk
about
this.
D
I
don't
think
tod
is
necessarily
immune
from
certain
conditions.
You
know,
as
as
we
put
it
down,
but
I
have
concerns
when
we
start
to
erode
some
things
around
it.
If
you
can
respond.
P
D
In
the
past
last
year,
but
let's
let's
get
a
refresher
of
course,
if
you
don't
mind
anybody
else,.
D
Sec,
oh
miss
isil,
ms
isil
is
recognized.
I
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry,
okay,
no,
I
appreciate.
I
really
do
appreciate
that
the
petitioner
has
kept
the
the
park
some
parking
in
this
project
this.
This
was
really
this
particular
parcel
led
to
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
comp
plan.
Frankly,
when
we,
when
we
talked
about
the
impact
of
having
tod
next
to
single-family,
neighborhoods
and
full
disclosure,
I
live
pretty
close
to
here.
So
that's
why
I'm
so
aware
of
it.
I
I'm
not
adjacent
to
it,
though,
but
when
taiwa
was
here,
I
had
a
lot
of
conversation
with
him
about
unintended
consequences
and
how
we've
got
to
have
some
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
things
when
they
happen
in
real
time
and
say:
okay
was
that
what
we
intended?
I
The
this
street
is
a
pretty
small
street
across
the
street.
There
is
a
buy
right
project
if
it's
still
on
the
books.
That
would
well
for
a
while,
in
fact,
I'm
not
sure
it's
still
in
the
books,
but
for
a
while
it
was
a
developer
who
was
going
to
build,
quote,
affordable
housing
and
it
wasn't
in
fact
affordable
housing.
Necessarily
he
just
wasn't
going
to
include
any
parking
at
a
lot
at
all.
I
There
are
two
restaurants
on
either
end
of
that
street:
a
whiskey
bar
and
do
a
tasting
room
that
don't
have
any
parking,
and
so
this
building
so
well
adjacent
to
that
is
also
the
tiger.
I
Creek
building
that's
going
away,
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
with
parking
there,
but
we
just
have
to
be
really
careful
when
we
assume
that
you're
going
to
get
that
mixed
use,
the
the
mix
of
uses
in
a
tod
parcel
that
we
would
hope
we
would
get
right
when
it
all
turns
out
to
be
kind
of
the
same
thing
with
no
parking
at
all.
The
market
isn't
really
taking
care
of
the
situation.
I
The
market
is
doing
what
it
gets
to
do,
and
so
I
do
appreciate
that
the
petitioner
was
was
open
to
keeping
parking
in
this
parcel,
given
the
proximity
literally
across
the
street,
from
single-family
houses,
and
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
But
I
I
just
think
it's
important
we've
talked
about
it
with
the
udo
with
the
comp
plan
that
we've
got
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
say:
okay,
this
isn't
quite
what
we
had
in
mind.
H
H
H
That
takes
a
look
at
the
broader
view,
because
I
feel
like
we
keep
saying
we're
going
to
see
it
in
the
community
and
the
area
plans,
but
I'm
not
seeing
it
translate
to
a
regulatory
standpoint,
for
instance,
if
there
are
10
parcels
in
a
row
and
nobody's
required
to
have
any
parking,
where
are
these
cars
going?
How
are
we
thinking
about
the
broader
experience
in
that
local
area.
AC
But
in
terms
of
the
broader
picture
I
mean
that's,
certainly
something
that
we
can
look
at
in
the
area
planning
process.
I
mean
we
put
categorize
things
into
place
types
so
that
there's
some
flexibility,
so
you're
really
looking
at
context,
but
you're
not
specifically
prescribing
what
people
can
do
in
each
of
each
of
those
locations.
H
Sure
I
think
it's
alludes
to
what
councilmember
johnson
and
I
know
I
can
only
speak
for
the
time
we've
been
on
accounts.
I've
been
saying
for
a
while,
even
as
it
relates
to
traffic
and
as
we're
looking
at
rezonings
and
how
we're
assessing
overall
traffic
impact
same
thing
for
parking
same
thing
as
we
talk
about
use
and
ensuring
that
there
is
a
mixed
use,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
regulations
reflect
that.
While
we
don't
want
to
be
prescriptive
on
every
parcel
that
we're
still
getting
what
we
intended
for
the
broader
group.
AC
D
Second,
that
we'll
go
any
discussion,
seeing
none
we'll
go
through
the
roll
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson,
yes,.
E
I
D
That's
unanimous.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
to
item
24,
rezoning
petition
2021-264
by
chuck
price.
The
location
is
approximately
4.7
acres,
located
on
the
north
side
of
oak
drive,
east
of
old
statesville,
road
and
south
of
pete
brown
road
in
council
district
2,
mr
graham's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
I-1
light
industrial,
single
family,
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
i2cd.
D
There
is
opposition
to
this,
so
the
speakers,
each
speaker,
will
have
ten
minutes
with
a
two
minute,
rebuttal
aft
and
that
will
come
after
a
staff
presentation.
AB
AB
The
2040
policy
map
does
recommend
manufacturing
and
logistics
for
the
site
next
slide.
The
proposal
with
this
petition
would
allow
for
a
max
of
six
buildings
totaling
up
to
sixty
thousand
square
feet
that
would
include
storage,
sheds
buildings
and
outdoor
storage
for
the
budding
lumber
company
does
prohibit
the
following
uses.
Things
such
as
automotive
service
stations,
auction
sales,
car
washes,
dry,
cleaning,
truck
stops
and
adult
establishments
does
commit
to
100
foot
class.
A
buffer
adjacent
to
the
abutting
residential
properties
also
commits
to
a
50-foot
class.
AB
A
buffer
along
oak
drive
and
lighting
would
also
be
shielded
to
prevent
direct
illumination
beyond
property
lines.
Also,
something
to
note
on
the
plan
is
that
no
access
to
the
site,
other
than
emergency
access,
which
would
be
gated,
would
be
proposed
off
of
oak
drive,
so
no
access
to
the
actual
site.
So
all
that
activity
would
continue
through
the
existing
access
points
north
of
where
this
proposed
rezoning
would
take
place.
Staff
does
recommend
approval
this
petition,
as
mentioned
just
some
outstanding
issues,
to
work
through
related
transportation
and
site
design.
AB
D
AF
AF
We
actually
acquired
all
this
land
together
in
2017.
I
believe,
and
we
did
an
expansion
on
the
lower
area
in
2018
and
we
are
maxed
out
of
what
was
allowed
at
the
time
prior
lumberyard
was
there
prior
to
us
moving
in
in
2014,
so
we
have.
AF
Nothing
really
changes
as
far
as
our
hours
or
store
hours,
all
rail
serve
and
everything
else,
that's
in
the
front
is
still
being
maintained
on
our
other
parcel,
there's
nothing
to
be
unloaded
or
any
kind
of
rail
spur
activity
on
this
parcel
and,
as
they
have
stated,
there
will
be
no
truck
traffic
or
vehicle
or
traffic
or
in
our
business
abutting
or
near
any
of
the
residents
on
oak
drive.
Everything
is
still
ingressing
aggress
out
on
the
peat
brown
road.
D
Thank
you
is
that
it
cool
excellent.
Well
again,
you
have
10
minutes,
but
you
don't
have
to
use
all
10
minutes.
Thank
you
stand
by
for
a
rebuttal.
We
do
have
two
speakers
in
opposition
patricia
and
garen
oliver.
You
have
10
minutes.
AG
Okay
good
evening,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
hearing
me
today.
My
name
is
patricia
and
I
reside
on
oak
drive,
I'm
also
speaking
on
behalf
of
resident
neighbors
ebony
brandon,
the
robinsons,
who
are
my
next
door,
neighbor
in
the
family
of
doris
sanders,
my
other
next
door
neighbor,
because
she
is
deceased.
Her
mother
is
maintained
in
the
sanders
home
for
her
grandson
and
she
is
here
as
well.
We
live
directly
in
front
of
the
field
that
carter
lumber
wants
to
expand
his
business
on
prior.
AG
To
beginning
my
speech,
I'd
like
to
say
that
everything
said
has
been
researched,
information
has
been
peer,
reviewed
and
it's
before
I've
included.
In
my
argument,
I
can
provide
a
detailed
report
for
every
fact
that
I
mentioned
so
reasons
to
approve
the
rezoning
and
allow
carter
lumber
to
expand
would
be
an
increase
in
revenue
for
carter,
lumber,
an
increase
in
tax
revenue
for
mecklenburg
county,
and
it
keeps
a
billion-dollar
corporation
in
mecklenburg
county
now
reasons
to
reject
the
zoning
and
deny
carter.
AG
Most
importantly,
the
negative
externalities
associated
with
carter
lumber's
expansion
has
the
potential
to
lead
to
sickness
and
disease
amongst
the
residents
closest
to
the
wood
storage
site,
and
it
will
cause
a
financial
hardship
for
the
entire
community,
so
health
impacts.
We
believe
that
the
stockton
finished
wood
contains
thoracic
dust,
inhalable,
resin
acids,
terpene
exposure
and
bacteria
spores.
AG
Skin
irritation,
allergies
and
respiratory
symptoms,
including
lung
function
decline.
Yes,
the
clean
air
act
and
other
policies
demand
lower
vocs,
be
used
in
wood
coatings,
but
this
is
optional
and
it
still
puts
us
at
risk
because
it
lowers
the
exposure
level,
but
it
does
not
eliminate
it
and
our
health
is
not
worth
the
chance
for
extra
revenue.
AG
Carter
lumber
wishes
to
remove
our
trees
and
grass
that
cleans
our
air
and
protect
us
from
the
chemicals
and
bacteria
and
air,
mostly
that
come
from
their
company
company
with
a
big
gravel
lock,
one
of
the
most
damaging
effects
of
road
dust
or
gravel
is
effects
on
people's
respiratory
health,
especially
that
of
young
children.
I
have
two.
The
neighbor
to
the
right
of
me
has
two
and
a
neighbor
to
the
left
of
me:
has
one
that's:
five
children
being
exposed
daily
to
carter,
lumber's
road
dust
or
gravel.
AG
AG
AG
Road
dust
was
found
to
have
harmful
effects
on
the
human
body,
which
is
also
gravel,
especially
on
the
respiratory
system,
and
there
will
be
acres
of
it
directly
across
the
street
from
my
house.
It's
also
an
eyesore
that
I
did
not
sign
up
for
it.
Sadly,
this
eyesore
can
lead
to
mental
health
problems
such
as
depression
time
spent
on
our
front
porch
running
on
the
cut
part
of
the
field
in
front
of
the
homes
watching
the
sunset
or
rise
against
the
field.
AG
With
the
high
tree
line,
different
types
of
greens
and
neighborhood
deer
bouncing
around
have
a
calming
and
rejuvenating
effect
on
our
mental
health.
That
is
what
we
purchased
on
oak
drive
and
in
our
community,
for
we
don't
want
to
live
across
the
street
from
four
large
storage
buildings
covered
by
a
fence.
That's
not
what
I
want
my
children
to
see
when
they
look
out
their
bedroom
windows,
the
blue
sky,
green
field
and
trees.
Allow
us
to
relax
and
enjoy
our
homes.
AG
I
don't
want
to
sit
on
my
front
porch
and
stare
at
storage,
buildings,
wood,
electrical
lines
and
poles
or
people
working,
and
I
don't
want
to
hear
the
noise
associated
with
the
work
being
done,
and
I
definitely
do
not
want
this
to
affect
my
children,
while
they're
studying
or
playing
with
their
window
open.
We
know
that
woods,
chemicals
removing
the
biggest.
We
know
that
the
woods
chemicals,
removing
the
biggest
structure
of
source
and
green
space
in
our
community
and
replacing
it
with
a
multi-acre
gravel
lot
can
lead
to
serious
health
issues,
disease
cancer,
even
death.
AG
The
expansion
is
not
worth
jeopardizing
our
health.
The
opportunity
costs
are
too
high.
In
addition
to
the
health
impacts,
there
are
environmental
impacts,
it
is
an
automatic
increase
in
air
pollution.
When
you
remove
the
green
space,
an
increase
in
the
need
of
storage
indicates
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
wood.
The
liver
is
shipped
from
carter
lumber
via
the
railroad
tracks
just
in
during
the
meet
the
just.
During
the
time
of
our
meeting.
AG
The
training
has
back
and
forth
five
times
starting
traffic,
polluting
our
air
and
I'm
sure
that
that
will
increase
if
they're
allowed
to
increase.
Depending
on
the
train's
timing,
there
could
be
at
least
20
cars
waiting
to
enter
the
community
from
old,
statesville
road
or
exit
the
community
from
oak
drive.
This
increases
the
potential
for
asthma
attacks
by
40
percent,
because
trains
emit
an
immense
level
of
gas's
waste
that
is
not
only
detrimental
to
the
environment,
but
also
our
health.
AG
Then
we
have
urban
deforestation
due
to
human
activity,
which
not
only
decreases
the
health
and
quality
of
life
in
our
county
city
and
neighborhood.
But
it
worsens
the
effects
of
unpredictable
climate
change.
It
would
be
best
to
purchase
a
property-
that's
already
ready
for
this
business,
so
that
way,
we're
not
cutting
any
more
trees
or
reducing
any
more
green
space.
AG
Urban
trees,
reduce
pollution,
stabilize
temperatures
and
increase
real
estate
value.
So
when
you
remove
them,
you
create
an
environment,
that's
not
only
detrimental
to
our
health
and
happiness,
but
it
also
has
long
lasting
economic
impact
and,
like
most
things,
these
impacts
are
not
shared
equally
across
society.
AG
Urban
deforestation
creates
what
is
called
the
green
gray
divide
between
affluent
neighborhoods
with
sufficient
tree
coverage
and
less
wealthy
areas
that
go
without.
It's
been
said
that
the
number
of
trees
in
the
urban
area
can
be
used
to
assess
the
relative
prosperity
of
the
community,
and
that
is
true
drop
down,
myers
parks
or
king
stride,
or
any
other
affluent
neighborhood
in
charlotte
and
you'll
notice.
You
don't
see
their
house
because
it's
covered
by
trees.
AG
Evidence
also
shows
that
the
amount
of
vegetation
known
as
greenness
and
densely
populated
areas
can
be
an
indicator
of
the
relative
wealth.
Replanting
trees
are
not
an
option
because
trees
struggle
to
reach
adulthood
in
urban
areas,
plus
it
takes
decades
for
them
to
grow
to
the
heights
that
they
are
now.
Therefore,
we
will
be
without
trees,
not
fair.
In
addition,
we're
going
to
disturb
a
wildlife
refuge.
This
morning
I
woke
up.
AG
AG
Also,
in
addition
to
environmental
and
health,
we
have
economic
externalities.
As
stated
in
the
beginning,
carter
lumber
is
a
financially
stable
company
right.
This
is
a
working,
a
a
double
over
working
class
neighborhood.
So
now
we're
talking,
there's
going
to
be
an
immediate
decrease
in
our
property
value,
because
our
rental
value
houses
next
to
the
railroad
which
we're
correctly
already
here.
We
know
that
they
devalue
by
about
30,
which
means
that
we
already
are
going
to
cut
our
cost
30
when
we
want
to
sell
or
rent
our
homes.
AG
Now
expanding
carter
lumber
is
another
aggravating
factor
that
will
require
us
to
further
reduce
the
price
of
our
property
when
selling
or
renting,
because
it
is
an
immediate
eyesore
that
is
ugly.
Would
you
want
to
live
across
the
street?
From
that?
Would
you
purchase
a
neighborhood?
I
mean
a
home
in
a
neighborhood,
and
that
is
the
main
interest
as
soon
as
you
come
in.
AG
That
is
what
you
see
if
you
do
you're
going
to
expect
a
huge
discount,
and
that
is
the
position
carter
lumber
will
be
putting
us
first-time
homeowners
in
and
for
me,
I
want
to
pass
the
house
down
to
my
children
so
now,
whereas
I'm
supposed
to
be
giving
them
good
debt
or
or
something
that
accrues
wealth,
I'm
giving
them
something
that
will
will
lose
wealth
because
the
company
decided
to
put
something
across
the
street.
That's
not
only
going
to
mess
them
up
environmentally
and
health
wise,
but
economic
wise.
AG
So
we
already
discussed
an
increase
in
the
trains
activity
which
leads
to
an
increase
in
time
and
gas
wasted.
AE
On
your
training,
miss
oliver
yeah,
your
ten
minutes
is,
is
up.
If
you
have
any
further.
D
D
You,
mr
price,
you
have
two
minutes
for
rebuttal.
AF
Okay
and
I
I
do
appreciate
the
neighboring
property
owner's
concerns,
I
guess
just
a
few
points
I
would
like
to
make
is
obviously
the
railroad
was
there
for
for
many
years
and
when
we
we
moved
in
here
back
in
2014,
the
properties
already
had
the
lumber
yard
and
the
spur
in
there
like.
I
said
we're,
not
we're
not
doing
anything
else
different.
That
railroad
goes
through
way
beyond
our
business.
AF
So
you
know
whether
it's
us
having
a
few
cars
a
week
versus
the
whole
train
for
the
whole
community
is,
is
not
something
that
we're
creating.
We
don't
have
chemical
things
that
she's
stating
she's
actually
living
in
in
a
house
where
building
materials
that
we
sell.
That's
that's
what
we
do.
It's
lumber
we're,
not
we're,
not
chemical,
treating
or
anything
like
that.
It's
what
what
you
buy
at
a
typical
home
center
for
say,
like
a
home
depot
or
lowe's.
AF
That's
that's
other
parties
like
us
and
in
in
regards
to
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
part
of
the
i1
zoning
that
is
actually
directly
across
murray
street
could
be
a
lot
worse
uses
and
and
rezoning
would
not
even
be
necessary.
AF
So
we
do
feel
that
we've
taken
all
the
concerns.
You
know
in
consideration
here
and
feel
that
we've
done
everything
we
can
to
to
keep
the
proper
buffers
and
all
of
the
existing
trees
in
those
buffers
to
be
to
be
left
alone
with
their
mature
building,
and
we
do
plan
on
as
obviously
comply
with
any
any
extra
plannings
that
are
necessary
in
these
buffer
areas.
That
will
help
stream.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
price.
With
that
we
will
move
on
to
questions
and
comments
from
the
council.
I
don't
see
any
hands
up
immediately
in
the
room.
Mr
mr
phipps.
F
AF
AF
F
D
D
It
is
frustrating
it
is
frustrating
because
we
need
both
all
right
and
I
hope,
as
we
kind
of
push
along
with
the
2040
plan
implementation
as
we
get
into
the
community
area
plan
planning
processes
that
we
identify
some
of
these
neighborhoods
and
areas
where
this
conflict
is
particularly
present
and
focus
on
them,
because
we
we
would
have.
We
have
an
issue,
I
think
miss
oliver.
You
know
illustrated
several
different
legitimate
concerns,
whether
whether
or
not
they're
specifically
applicable
to
this
this
situation.
D
These
are
the
concerns
of
homeowners
and
residents
and
communities
and,
in
fact,
is
a
concern
of
the
council
council
has
rejected
particularly
residential
developments,
even
affordable
housing
developments
over
the
year
because
of
their
pro
proximity
to
industrial
zones.
Whether
I
agree
with
them.
Those
denials
are
not
that
that's
a
different,
that's
a
different
question,
but
there
was
a
concern
that
we
had.
I
think
the
petition
died
for
residential
by
the
music
factory.
D
I
think,
particularly
because
of
the
conversation
that
that
that
we're
hearing
right
now
and
the
fear
of
of
of
what
could
what
could
happen
in
the
future.
With
that
said,
I
I
would
also
say
you
know
miss
oliver
brought
up
a
point
that
I
would
push
back
a
little
bit
on
you
know.
Certainly
the
business
owner
is
having
a
successful
business
and
expanding,
and
we
we
and
it
fits
their
business
model
to
continue
to
grow.
D
We
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
deny
that,
and
this
is
not.
And
yes,
when
development
happens,
you
increase
revenue
with
taxes
and
that's
important,
but
there
is
a
common
good,
particularly
with
this
business
right
when
we
think
of
lumber.
D
As
mr
price
said,
houses
are
built
with
the
lumber
that
they
supply
and
when
we
look
at
our
affordable
housing
crisis,
when
we
look
at
the
inflationary
time
that
we're
in
housing
is
more
expensive
in
charlotte,
because
it's
harder
to
get
materials
for
for
housing,
things
like
lumber,
which
is
a
main
part
of
it.
So
as
we
try
to
to
make
housing
more
affordable
or
if
we
try
to
make
this
a
better
place
to
live.
D
We
need
businesses
like
this
to
thrive,
but
also
point
out
that
this
area
up
old,
statesville
road
is
historically
an
industrial
corridor
and-
and
that
is
illustrated
by
its
proximity
to
the
the
freight
line
that
exists
and
still
operates
there.
So
again
it
you
know
kind
of
comes
full
circle
to
to
this
encroachment.
D
When
you
know
you,
we,
as
the
city
grows,
the
past
council
have
decided
that
it
was
okay
to
put
residential
that
close
to
industrial,
but
now
that
we're
losing
industry,
we
don't
have
many
places
for
those
businesses
to
go.
So
again.
Those
are
more
comments,
less
questions,
maybe
things
for
us
to
consider,
especially
as
we
have
new
council
members
that
are
going
to
decide
on
this
particular
one
over
these
in
the
next
month
or
so.
D
We
should
give
both
the
petitioner
and
the
residents
consideration,
but
I
don't
think
there's
any
necessarily
thing.
That's
clear,
clear
cut
right
now,
but
hopefully
we
continue
to
work
on
it
and
come
to
a
common
ground
approach.
Thank
you.
D
L
D
Any
comments
or
discussion
seeing
none,
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.
Yes,.
D
Mr
eggleston,
yes,
miss
watlington,
miss
durdriggs.
Yes,
mr
bukhari,
yes,
mr
newton
yeah,
thank
you,
that's
unanimous
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
25.
D
Miss
oliver,
you
guys
had
10
minutes
to
speak
combined,
so
when
you
took
up
the
the
full
10
minutes,
you
also
took
up
mr
oliver's
time,
but
mr
oliver
has
I
comments.
He
would
like
to
submit
to
the
record
he
can
submit
those
to
the
clerk
they.
We
will
be
made
part
of
the
record
and
shared
with
the
council.
D
Thank
you
all.
Right
again,
we
will
move
on
to
I
agenda
item
number
25
rezoning
petition
2021-282
by
graystar
development,
east
llc,
a
location,
approximately
7.54
acres,
located
south
of
golf
links,
drive
on
the
west
side
of
mid
park
midway
park,
drive
north
of
ardrey
kell
road
in
council
district
7,
mr
driggs
district.
The
current
zoning
is
a
mud
o
mixed
use,
development
optional
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
mud,
o
spa
mixed
use,
development,
optional,
site
plan.
Amendment
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
this
petition
upon
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation.
D
We
do
have
opposition
to
this,
so
after
staff's
presentation,
both
petitioner
and
residents
will
have
10
minutes.
Mr
pegg.
AH
Thank
you
dave.
This
is
approximately
7.54
acres
on
the
south
of
golf
links.
Drive
west
side
of
midway
park,
drive
north
of
audrey
kell
road
in
the
ray
farms
development.
There's
a
vacant
parcel
there
that
they're
looking
at
developing.
It
is
currently
zoned
mud,
o
mixed
use.
Development
optional.
The
proposed
zoning
listed
here
is
motto:
site
plant
amendment
mixed-use
development,
optional
site
plan.
Amendment
we'll
note
that
one
of
our
minor
technical
issues
is
that
they'll
need
to
clarify
the
proposed
zoning
district
when
they
resubmit
for
zoning
committee.
AH
To
change
the
existing
plan
would
allow
up
to
315
residential
delon
units,
307
multifamily
units
and
eight
single-family
attached
units,
as
in
a
location
that
was
previously
planned
for
office
and
parking
structure
uses
a
minimum
of
six
single-family
attached
units
would
be
provided
as
part
of
the
petitions.
It
allows
the
conversion
of
unused
multi-family
units
to
additional
town
home
units
at
a
rate
of
one
town
home
for
every
two
multi-family
units,
a
maximum
building
height
of
65
feet
for
the
multi-family
structures
and
45
feet
for
the
single
family
attached.
Dwellings.
AH
Access
would
be
from
the
extension
of
ray
park,
lane
walnut
branch
lane
and
midway
park
drive.
It
maintains
and
control
constructs
an
eight-foot
planting
strip
and
eight
foot
sidewalk
on
all
the
public
street
frontages
provides
architectural
design
standards
for
the
multi-family
buildings
and
architectural
standards
for
the
town
home
buildings,
a
maximum
of
five
units
per
town,
home
style,
building
with
at
least
one
car
garage
per
unit.
AH
It
also
commits
to
a
minimized
open
space
and
provides
publicly
accessible
pedestrian
walkway
from
walnut
branch
lane
north
through
the
site
to
the
extension
of
the
south
ray
park
lane
with
a
minimum
of
32
3270
square
feet
of
public
open
space
area,
and
you
can
see
that
indicated
on
the
site.
Plan
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
petition
upon
the
resolution
of
the
outstanding
issues
and
it
is
consistent
with
the
2040
policy
map
recommendation
for
the
community
activity
center.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
multiple
speakers:
colin
brown,
brittany,
lynch
josh
glover
ben
libitrow,
mike
sullivan
and
sean
tulia,
mr
de
brown,
you're,
going
to
take
care
of
all
that.
Yes,.
P
Sir,
on
point,
thank
you,
as
john
mentioned
great
overview.
So
what
you're
looking
at
is
an
aerial
of
the
ray
farms,
development
which
this
council
approved
that
resounding
probably
eight
to
ten
years
ago,
as
you
can
see,
and
actually
most
of
the
ray
farms
development
has
been
built
out.
So
we
have
a
harris
teeter
center.
We
have
a
good
bit
of
commercial
up
there
in
the
top
right
corner.
We've
got
a
major
fitness
and
sporting
facility.
P
It
incorporated
a
steam
academy,
so
we
have
a
cms
school
on
site.
So
a
lot
of
mixed
use,
things
going
on.
You
can
obviously
see
the
portion
there
where
the
star
is
into
the
north
is
the
area
that
was
has
not
been
developed
and
I'll
tell
you
why
that
is
next
slide.
So
the
area
where
this
is
that
current
undeveloped
area
is
currently
basically
entitled
for
offices
and
hotels
next
slide.
P
This
is
a
look
at
the
approved
zoning
plan
for
the
area,
so
in
the
area
that
we're
rezoning,
which
I've
got
on
screen
I'll
show
you
with
a
star
next
slide.
P
Currently,
the
site
that
we're
talking
about
could
be
developed
with
two
office
buildings
up
to
about
250
000
square
feet
and
then
a
large
parking
deck
to
serve
that
same
for
the
north.
So
there's
a
big
piece
that
hasn't
been
developed,
but
right
now
we're
just
working
on
this
piece.
So
currently,
today,
office,
buildings
and
parking
deck
are
allowed
next
slide.
The
2040
plan
does
recognize
all
of
this
as
a
community
activity
center,
which
will
allow
a
variety
of
different
uses
next
slide.
P
Instead
of
building
a
large
two
large
office
buildings
and
a
large
parking
structure,
we
would
take
this
opportunity
on
just
this
seven
and
a
half
acres
to
incorporate
some
more
residential
ray
farms
has
got
a
nice
mixture
of
uses,
like
I
said,
we're
walkable
to
a
cms
school
to
a
grocery
store
to
atrium
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
ray
farms
waverly
area.
So
our
goal
is
to
to
make
that
change
from
the
large
office
buildings
to
multi-family
the
current
version,
which
is
before
you
was
for
250
or
315
units.
P
That's
come
down
a
little
bit.
Next
slide
and
the
should
point
out
the
office
buildings
that
are
currently
approved
could
be
95
feet
in
height.
This
reasoning
would
take
that
height
down
to
about
65
feet,
so
we
thought
actually
and
you'll,
hear
from
some
neighbors
who
live
in
some
single-family
homes
and
townhomes
adjacent.
We
actually
thought
this
would
be
a
nice
transition
rather
than
you
know,
tall
commercial
office
buildings
we're
lowering
the
height
we're
having
residential
neighbors
you'll,
hear
some
feedback
from
the
neighbors.
P
We
certainly
we
never
make
all
the
people
happy
all
the
time,
but
we
have
made
some
changes.
We've
broken
the
townhome,
so
ours
will
have
a
number
of
townhomes,
so
the
neighbors
have
town
home
units,
so
we're
proposing
some
town
home
units
adjacent
to
them
to
transition,
and
then
our
apartments
we've
broken
up
the
townhome
buildings
and
took
kind
of
better
screen
to
the
west.
P
We've
committed
to
full
cut
off
lighting
so
that
there's
not
light
from
our
parking
lot
interfering
with
neighboring
property
owners,
we're
continuing
to
work
with
lincoln
harris
the
master
developer.
If
you
could
remember
in
your
mind
the
big
ray
farms,
image
is
extending
the
park
on
down.
So
we're
working
them
with
them
with
this
development
grace
star,
would
complete
a
street
connection,
which
is
important
and
kind
of
creates.
P
Some
of
the
street
network
on
the
site
would
also
provide
some
more
parking
and
we're
also
trying
to
work
with
master
developer
to
deliver
the
the
additional
green
space,
which
would
certainly
serve
our
site
as
well.
I've
committed
to
work
on
landscape
design
with
the
neighbors
we've
changed
pedestrian
plans
and
there's
now
a
pedestrian
connection
through
our
site
that
neighbors
could
use
to
walk
through
our
site
to
get
to
the
core
commercial
area
of
ray
farms.
P
Next
is
the
commitment
to
construct
ray
far
farms-
sorry
ray
park
lane,
so
they
do
there's
a
pretty
heavily
used
road
called
red
rust
that
runs
north
and
south.
That
gets
a
lot
of
traffic
and
then
kind
of
the
heart
of
waiver
ray
farms
is
over
here.
This
road
will
connect
the
two,
so
there
will
be
a
new
street
connection
between
which
our
folks
can
use,
and
everyone
will
be
able
to
use
we've
added
some
architectural
commitments.
P
We've
added
some
commitments
for
primary
entrances
for
these
apartment
buildings
so
that
they
would
walk
out
onto
that
new
street
and
face
the
future
screen,
and
then
we
have.
Additionally,
we
have
lowered
the
total
unit
count
down
to
306
units,
which
I
doubt
that's
a
significant
enough
change
to
to.
You
know,
address
anyone's
concerns,
but
we
have
lowered
that
a
bit
by
about
10
units.
So
those
are
the
changes
we
made
next
up.
Show
you
what
that
site
plan
looks
like,
so
you
can
visualize
it
in
your
mind.
P
So
again,
instead
of
the
two
office
buildings
and
large
parking
deck,
we
now
have
just
a
residential
development.
You
can
see
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
screen.
There
are
the
eight
townhome
units
to
try
and
sit
next
to
the
townhome
units
and
have
a
nice
transition,
and
then
you
can
see
the
multifamily.
P
This
is,
it
is
surface
parked,
but
it
is
wrapping
the
site
so
that
the
buildings
hide
all
of
the
parking
and
then
the
next
development
over
is
a
is
another
multi-family.
Development
next
slide
is
a
larger
picture.
Just
to
give
you
a
look
at
how
that
fits
in,
we
think
it
does
make
a
nice
transition
between
the
lower
density
residential,
the
commercial
activity
going
on,
and
if
you
could
see
there
that
red
rust,
sorry
that
what
is
it
called
south
ray
park
lane
would
be
extended.
P
P
Those
would
be
publicly
available.
So
it's
true
that
residents
of
the
apartments
could
park
there.
Also
residents
of
the
others
they
would
not
be
exclusive.
The
ones
along
the
new
street
would
not
be
just
for
the
tenants
and
folks
living
in
our
development.
They
would
be
available
to
the
public
next
slide,
just
some
renderings
to
show
kind
of
share
these
with
the
neighbors
the
quality
of
development
next
slide.
P
So
here's
the
comparison
in
the
kind
of
bottom
left
here
is
what
can
be
built
today
that
office
development
with
a
large
parking
structure
there
versus
our
proposal
there
on
the
right,
which
we
think
is
a
nice
transition.
Next
up,
we've
had
a
number
of
community
meetings.
There's
a
well
organized
community
organization
who
you'll
hear
from
tonight
next
slide.
P
P
if
this
were
developed
currently
under
the
existing
zoning
and
that
office
were
to
develop
out
that
could
generate
about
25
almost
2600
trips,
with
the
residential
that
reduction
you
can
see,
is
over
900
trips
fewer.
So
we
think
there
would
be
an
overall
reduction
in
traffic
if
it
were
developed.
This
way
next
slide
cms
there
is,
there
would
be
a
potential
impact
of
students,
so
people
could
live
here
and
they
could
have
children
in
the
cms
schools
it'd,
be
they
could
walk
to
the
steam
academy
about
two
blocks
away.
P
There
is
overcrowding,
however,
I
think
everyone
is
on
their
radar
now
that
there
are
schools
coming
to
south
charlotte.
We
have
new
high
school
and
elementary
school
on
the
way
and
middle
school
in
the
book.
So
I
think
there
is
some
cms
relief
coming
for
council
members.
We
talk
about
cms
a
lot.
This
is
an
area
where
we
have
schools
on
the
way.
Next
slide
a
lot
of
talk
about
parking,
and
we,
this
came
up
tonight
over
how
much
parking
we
have.
P
P
Their
concerns
are
that
they
don't
have
enough
parking
sufficiently
and
our
folks
will
park
in
theirs.
That's
about
the
best
we're
able
to
do.
We've
lowered
our
numbers.
We
think
that's
ample
parking
next
slide.
We've,
given
some
examples,
greystar
manages
tens
of
thousands
of
apartments
across
the
country
next
slide
and
has
a
good
track
record.
So
we
did
share
some
information
on
similar
apartments.
In
the
area
that
are
parked
at
about
1.2
and
that's
more
than
the
ordinance
would
require
so
we're
parking
over
ordinance
standard,
we
think
that's
sufficient,
based
on
greystar's
observations.
P
The
area-
and
this
is
you-
know,
one
unit:
it's
not
total
apples
to
apples
to
ray
farms,
but
they
find
in
utilization
of
a
0.7,
so
they're
empty
parking
spaces.
All
that
to
say,
is
is
we
do
think
we've
provided
sufficient
parking.
We've
tried
to
add
more
that's.
Why
we've
come
with
the
commitment
to
build
out
the
street,
which
would
have
spaces
that
others
could
use
as
well
so
that,
hopefully,
some
of
these
neighbors
if
they
already
have
parking
problems,
we'll
have
some
more
on-street
spaces
that
they
can
use
next
slide.
D
Minute,
thank
you,
mr
brown.
We
do
stand
by
for
a
rebuttal.
We
do
have
two
speakers
in
opposition,
seeing
such
dev
and
john
bloomer.
You
have
10
minutes
combined,
so
leave
it
up
to
you.
Look
that
up
and
for
for
council
members
online.
The
residents
have
provided
us
a
deck
that
we're
looking
at
and
we'll
make
sure
that
gets
to
you
as
well.
Thank
you.
AI
Yeah
good
evening,
council
members
staff:
this
is
a
sing
sachte,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
ray
farms
community
and
also
a
board
member
for
our
residential
owners
association.
AI
I've
been
nominated
by
our
you
know,
fellow
community
residents,
to
speak
on
their
behalf.
AI
We
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
posting
the
pre-hearing
staff
analysis
that
allowed
us
to
study
that
before
coming
here
tonight
today.
Briefly,
what
we
want
to
do
is
just
share
with
you.
AI
AI
AI
AI
We
have
about
six
between
the
links
and
the
overture.
We
have
about
640
apartments
or
multi-family
residences
right
across
the
street,
in
waverly
between
land
towers,
solas
and
sawyer.
We
have
about
1154
units
and
then
just
about
a
half
a
mile
north
of
485,
where
we
are.
We
have
another
564
units
for
a
total
of
2400
apartments
within
a
one
mile
radius,
and
so
the
million
dollar
question
we
ask
here
tonight
is
this:
do
we
have
enough
apartments?
AI
AI
So
if
you
see
you
know
one
of
the
main
sentences
that
you've
looked
at
the
rationale
for
recommendation,
you
say
this
site
is
located
in
a
community
activity
center.
Yes,
within
walking
and
biking
distance,
yes,
distance
to
employment,
shopping
and
dining
opportunities
and
transit
service,
and
the
plan
uses
a
mixture
of
housing
types.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
You
know
we
always
every
zoning
meeting
you
hear
about
parking.
You
hear
about
traffic
you're
about
overcrowding.
You
talk
about
tree
canopies,
it's
the
same
thing
all
over
again,
but
please
bear
with
us
for
a
moment
to
when
we
re
iterate
our
concerns
that
affect
us
every
day.
For
you
it's
another
hearing
another.
AI
AI
That
is
including
the
space
next
to
the
park.
Most
residents
have
multiple
cars
and
commute
rents
are
too
high.
Mass
transit
stops
are
distant,
and
this
is
really
of
a
grave
concern
to
us
right
now,
because
also
when
our
development
was
built,
the
builder
did
not
do
any
justice
to
us
did
not
provide
you
know.
Driveways
did
not
or
there's
no
parking
in
the
alleys.
There
are
bike
lanes
and
things
of
that
sort.
AI
So
we
are
requesting
today
that
the
petitioner
consider
increasing
this
to
1.8
spaces
to
guarantee
no
overflow,
and
we
would
like
the
city
planning
to
consider
trying
to
remove
the
unused
bike
lanes
on
one
side
of
the
red
rust
and
provide
more
parking
spaces
for
our
residents.
Next
slide,
please
about
the
mitigating
the
traffic
again,
we
applaud
you
know,
and
we
understand
why
the
staff
recommended
not
doing
a
traffic
impact
study,
but
things
have
changed
in
our
community.
You
know
we
lifetime.
Fitness
has
closed.
AI
AI
Next
slide,
please
the
school
overcrowding
we
talked
about
this
already
and
the
school
they
recommended
that
the
petitioner
meet
with
the
cms
planning
department
discuss
the
mitigation
alternatives.
They
have
not
done
that.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
through
this
fast
because
of
the
timing
here
next
slide.
Please.
AI
AI
AI
AJ
AI
D
Or
disrupt
this
petition,
thank
you,
mr
such
that
we
we
have.
We
have
your
slides
and
we'll
make
sure
that
everybody
has
them.
Mr
brown,
you
have
two
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
Okay,.
P
Can
I
just
go
to
could
I
have?
I
don't
know
the
slide
in
our
presentation
that
has
an
aerial
and
the
apartments.
I
appreciate
this
has
been
a
very
respectful
back
and
forth
with
the
neighborhood.
I
think
that
was
very
succinctly
said:
we've
tried,
we've
tried
to
have
it
back
and
forth,
there's
just
a
fundamental
disagreement
over
the
land
use
for
this
parcel,
maybe
one
or
two
back.
That
shows
the
aerial.
P
I
did
not
know
that
there
were
100
businesses
close
to
the
site,
but
I
do
think
that
underscore
I
have
a
tough
job.
I
mean
every
time.
Every
time
we
talk
about
multi-family
units,
no
one
wants
in
their
backyard,
so
I
think
we
have
to
talk
about
if
we're
going
to
have
them
where's
the
appropriate
place
to
have
them.
If
I
could
get
an
aerial,
it's
just
helpful.
I
think,
to
see
to
look
at
this
and
say:
okay,
you
know
if
we
do
want
to
get
people
out
of
cars.
The
way
to
do
that.
P
I
think
we've
we've
talked
about
is
to
have
people
living
where
they
don't
have
to
get
in
a
car
and
so
ray
farms
is
an
example
of
that.
So
you
can
walk
to
a
cms
school.
You
can
walk
to
a
fitness
center.
You
can
walk
to
a
grocery
store,
you
can
walk
to
an
atrium
facility
and
then,
if
you
cross
providence,
you
have
all
of
waverly.
P
So
we
think
these
are
the
right
opportunities.
I
certainly
understand
the
concern
about
parking
because
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time
we've
done.
Our
best
we've
dropped
our
unit
count.
We've
we've
committed
to
add
some
on-street
spaces.
So
I
think
we've
tried
to
address
that.
That's
what
I
was
after
just
to
look
at
this,
and
I
wish
I
had
a
wider
view
and-
and
I
worked
on
the
zoning
for
the
townhomes.
A
lot
of
these
folks
live
in
the
single-family
homes.
P
I
just
think
it's
a
nice
transition
and,
if
we're
talking
about
where
we're
going
to
put
these
units
for
the
demand
we
have
and
if
you've
tried
to
find
an
apartment,
you'll
know
that
we
have
a
very
low
vacancy
rate.
We
think
this
is
a
great
location,
a
great
opportunity
to
put
stuff
in
walking
distance.
I
don't
think
we
want
to
peel
off
those
bike
lanes
to
put
in
on
street
parking,
but
if
the
you
know,
if
you
guys
decide
to
do
that,
that
would
create
some
more
parking
happy
to
take
any
questions.
D
You
very
much
miss
wallington.
H
So
I
have
a
question,
and
both
parties
spoke
to
this
in
particular,
and
this
need,
if
we
want
people
to
get
out
of
cars,
to
have
opportunities
to
live,
work
and
play
there.
What
I'm
hearing
and
what
I'm
seeing
in
the
presentation
from
the
residents,
however,
is
except
you
work
in
one
of
these
retail
establishments,
you're
going
to
have
to
get
in
your
car
to
go
to
work
correct
okay.
P
I
mean
one
of
the-
I
guess
most
honest
answers
to
give.
You
is
there's
raving
demand
for
residential
and
there's
currently
zero
demand
for
office.
That's
the
truth,
help
walking
distance
here.
There
is
a
significant
atrium
facility
that
does
have
good
paying
jobs
in
walking
distance.
The
rest
of
this
remains
under
its
current
zoning,
which
is
entitled
for
a
quarter
million
square
feet
of
office
in
this
location
and
another
building
here.
So
those
entitlements
are
still
there
we're.
H
If
we
say
that
what
we
want
is
walkable
complete,
10
minute
neighborhoods,
then
every
single
parcel
that
we
have
we've
got
to
consider
that
in
the
broader
context,
so
this
one
I've
got
I've
got
concerns
about.
I
recognize
the
need
for
housing,
but
if
the
people
who
live
in
the
housing
have
to
get
in
their
cars
to
go
to
work
that
can
pay
for
their
housing,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
are
actually
achieving
our
goals.
Thank
you.
D
D
So
if
the
market
did
demand
to
build
it
they're
entitled
to
and
they
actually
have
a
plan,
you
know
if
that
hasn't
showed
up
in
a
couple
years.
I
guess
the
market
is
going
to
ask.
Well
what
does
the
market
actually
want?
Mr
driggs.
L
Thank
you,
mr
winston.
Mr
stan,
we
discussed
a
number
of
these
issues
when
I
met
with
you
and
your
neighbors,
and
I
tried
to
explain
the
city's
position
on
a
couple
of
them.
I
don't
want
to
repeat
that
conversation
tonight,
but
perhaps
we
should
follow
up
and
and
go
back
over,
like
the
cms
questions,
I
do
think
a
reduction
of
900
anticipated
trips
in
the
context
of
the
perils
of
traffic
is
a
plus,
and
I
guess
my
question
for
you.
You've
indicated
a
couple
of
demands.
L
So
again
I
think
maybe
we
can
follow
up
and
talk
about
them,
but
I
would
be
interested
to
know
not
tonight
but
later
where
the,
where
the
1.8
number
comes
from.
Why
is
that
the
magic
number
instead
of
the
1.4,
the
petitioner,
has
submitted
a
an
analysis
of
their
experience
in
terms
of
utilization
of
these
parking
spaces.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
data
of
some
kind
from
other
sources
to
indicate
that
1.8
is
actually
the
necessary
number
to
avoid
overflow.
D
E
D
Phipps,
yes,
mr
eggleston,
yes,
ms
watlington's,
yes,
mr
driggs,
yes,
mr
newton,
yes,
unanimous!
Thank
you
just
just
we
had
a
question
from
from
the
audience,
there's
a
rules
of
procedure
that
I
I
went
over
at
the
beginning
and
we
are
bound
by
those
rules.
D
D
D
All
right,
26.,
rezoning,
petition,
2022-4
by
white
white
point
partners,
location,
is
approximately
25.25
acres
located
on
the
north
side
of
the
plaza
and
east
side
of
eastway
drive
south
of
eastway
park,
drive
council
district
one
mr
eggleston's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
b1
scd
shopping
center
and
b1
neighborhood
business.
The
proposed
zoning
is
t
o
d
t,
r
c
d,
transit,
oriented
development,
transit
transition.
Conditional
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition.
AB
AB
The
adopted
future
land
or
adopt
a
place
type
is
a
neighborhood
center
in
this
location.
That
was
a
part
of
the
2040
policy
map.
The
proposal
is
this
is
similar
to
a
tod
conditional.
We
saw
earlier
this
evening
no
associated
plan,
but
just
a
commitment
to
following
development
standards,
and
that
would
be
to
allow
no
more
than
one
use
with
an
accessory
drive
through
window
that
could
be
for
ede
bank
pharmacy,
etc.
AB
It
would
construct
a
paved
accessible
pedestrian,
a
bike
connection
from
the
site
to
the
existing
trail
located
at
the
end
of
americana
avenue,
right
away,
also
work
with
cats
to
provide
an
ada,
compliant
bus
amenity
along
the
plaza
and
eastway
drive,
and
the
proposed
amenities
would
be
limited
to
one
or
more
of
the
following
concrete
waiting
pad
a
concrete
pad
for
bench
or
concrete
pad
for
a
new
shelter
staff
does
recommend
approval
this
petition.
It
is
consistent
with
the
2040
policy
map
recommendation
for
neighborhood
center.
AB
It
is
within
a
mile
of
that
old
concord.
Oh,
the
old
concord
road
station,
just
up
eastway
just
off
that
map.
So
that's
where
the
tod
request
does
come
in
and
is
applicable,
so
we'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
following
the
petitioner's
presentation.
Thank
you.
AJ
Good
evening
mayor
pro
tem
members
of
council
members
of
the
zoning
committee,
keith
mcmahon,
with
more
van
allen,
assisting
white
point
partners
with
this
resulting
petition
with
me
tonight,
virtually
as
jay
labelle
he'll,
be
available
to
answer
questions
just
a
little
bit
about
white
point
partners.
Their
aim
is
to
contribute
to
the
committee
to
the
community
and
build
with
purpose.
These
are
some
of
the
developments
that
they
have
done
here
throughout
the
city,
optimus
hall,
currently
also
working
on
the
redevelopment
of
the
charlotte
transportation
center
next
slide.
Please.
AJ
AJ
Mainly
the
conditions
are
to
work
with
parks
and
rec
to
provide
a
trail
connection
to
the
eastway
park
to
to
our
east
work
with
cats,
on
improvements
to
the
bus
amenities
along
the
two
major
roads,
as
well
as
prohibit
some
of
the
more
non-transit
supportive
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
tr
district
next
slide.
Please
next
slide,
please!
This
site
was
was
owned
in
1968,
for
the
east
way
plaza
shopping
center.
This
is
the
old
conditional
plan
that
was
approved
at
that
time.
AJ
Over
100
000
square
feet
of
retail
next
slide
a
couple
images
of
the
existing
center
next
slide.
As
dave
mentioned
consistent
with
the
2040
plan,
neighborhood
center,
the
transit
supportive
uses
being
consistent
with
that
place
type
next
slide.
We
do
meet
four
of
the
goals
of
the
comp
plan
as
well.
Next
slide
and
again
just
a
little
bit
about
the
petition
itself.
We
are
within
a
mile
of
the
concord
station.
AJ
D
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question,
so
I
have
a
question
about
the
conditional
aspect
of
this.
Why
why
does
it
need
to
be
a
conditional?
I
was
talking
to
staff
a
little
earlier
and
it
seemed
like
one
of
the
conditions
was,
as
it
relates
to
a
drive-through,
but
the
drive-through
would
be
allowed
by
right
in
this
tod
district.
So
what
why?
What
is
what
conditions
need
to
be
met
here?
Well,.
AJ
The
other
conditions
are
the
prohibition
on
the
climate
control
storage
facility,
the
gas
station,
the
auto
repair
and
the
parking
lot.
So
those
were
other
conditions.
We
also
added
conditions
regarding
a
trail
connection
to
the
to
the
park,
as
well
as
working
with
cats
on
transits
to
transit,
amenities
for
bus
transit
service
riders
along
eastway,
on
the
plaza.
So
there
are
some
conditions,
but
the
main
focus
of
the
conditions
were
to
prohibit
some
of
the
the
other
four
or
five
uses
that
are
allowed
in
todtr
that
we
did
not
feel
were
appropriate
here.
Y
AB
If
you
want
to
so
we
we
did
request
some
of
those
uses
out
of
tr,
be
written
out,
the
the
self
storage
facilities,
gas
stations,
vehicle
dealerships,
etc
did
have
some
con.
You
know
back
and
forth
about
some
drive-throughs.
I
don't
think
we
expressly
said
you
know
we
want
those
written
out.
They
are
permitted
in
todtr
currently,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
you
know
needed
additional
discussion
on
that,
but
we
did
request
some
of
those
uses
be
written
out
of
the
todtr
district.
AB
It
was
a
kind
of
a
look
at
tod,
nc
and
tr,
and
it
was
either
conditional
nc
with
a
height
cap
or
tr
with
some
of
the
use
restrictions,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
the
options
that
we
we
considered
on
this
one.
G
You-
and
there
are
just
for
reference-
I
don't
know
if
it
was
obvious
in
the
slides,
but
there
is
a
gas
station
on
the
corner
here.
That
is
not
part
of
the
parcel
being
rezoned
already
and
there's
a
drive-through
on
the
parcel
already,
but
this
is
a
shopping
center,
I'm
pretty
familiar
with,
and
it's
probably
not
seen
much
investment
since
that
rezoning
in
1967.
G
it's
in
dire
need
of
of
some
love
and
could
be
much
better
utilized
than
it
is
right.
Now
it's
two-thirds
a
sea
of
parking.
G
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
good
white
point
partners
got
a
great
track
record
in
our
community
of
doing
really
thoughtful
projects
that
that
enhance
the
community.
I
will
just
note
that
another
situation
similar
to
a
conversation
we
had
earlier
tonight,
where
we
have
a
grocery
store
here,
a
full
service
grocery
store
here.
That
is
one
of
the
few
walkable
options
for
some
of
the
communities
in
that
corridor.
G
I
think
that
will
change
over
time,
given
the
proximity
to
transit-
and
I
love
the
connections
here
to
the
park
and
to
the
transits
to
the
rail
stop.
But
I
do
hope
that,
as
this
reinvestment
in
this
property
occurs,
that
there
is
at
minimum
of
maintaining
of
the
the
food
access
that
exists
there
now,
if
not
an
increase
and
certainly
not
a
decrease
in
access
to
food
as
part
of
this
project.
G
Y
O
F
O
So
stan
our
standard
is
if
it
hits
the
2500
trip
threshold.
During
permitting,
we
would
go
through
a
traffic
study
process.
F
So
do
you
think
that's
likely
given
what
given
what
the
existing
trips
are,
the
entitled
trips
and
the
proposed
zoning
that
are
two?
It
says
it's
too
many
uses
to
determine
trip
generation.
That's
what
we're
talking
about.
O
Right
because
there's
no
development
plan,
so
we
would
assess
that
at
that
time,
given
the
size
of
the
site,
it's
likely
that
it
would
trip
that,
but
it
all
depends
on
on
how
the
site's
developed.
Thank
you.
D
Close
second,
any
comment
on
that
motion.
Move
on
with
roll
call,
yes,
miss
johnson,
yes,.
A
R
D
I
think
that's
all
we
have
online
right
now.
So
thank
you.
We'll
move
on
to
item
number
27
rezoning
petition
2022-7
by
saint
charles
avenue,
llc
approximately
approximately
point
three:
four
acres
located
on
the
west
side
of
castleton
road,
north
of
north
of
north
sharon,
amity
road
and
east
of
craig
avenue
in
council
district
five,
mr
newton's
district.
D
We
have
no
speakers
in
opposition,
so
after
staff's
presentation,
mr
murray
will
have
three
minutes.
Mr
penton.
AH
AH
The
proposal
to
ur2cd
would
essentially
allow
and
propose
the
subdivision
of
the
parcel
to
allow
two
single-family
detached
homes,
so
one
one
unit
on
each
parcel,
so
total
of
going
from
one
unit
to
two
units.
Basically
on
on
the
parcel
it
allows.
AH
Y
You,
mr.
AK
Thank
you,
mr
winston
council,
david
murray,
murray
law
here
in
charlotte
represent
the
petitioner.
I
want
to
thank
mr
phipps
for
coming
to
our
first
community
meeting
and
mr
wen
sorry,
mr
newton,
for
coming
to
our
first
and
second
community
meeting,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
the
unresolved
issue,
I
think,
was
just
a
mistake
on
our
site
plan
about
the
watershed
so
that'll
be
resolved,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
This
is
just
for
a
subdivision
for
two
single
family
detached
houses.
D
D
D
D
Location,
approximately
16.65
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
north
lake
center
parkway,
south
of
interstate
485
and
west
of
interstate
77
in
the
etj,
and
count
excuse
me
in
county
commission
district,
one
which
is
miss
powell's
district
and
the
closest
city
council
district
is
district.
Four
miss
johnson.
The
current
zoning
is
bp
and
r3
business
park
and
single
family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
b2cd.
General
business.
Conditional
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition
upon
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation.
D
Again
we
have
no
opposition
to
this.
So
after
staff's
presentation,
mr
carmichael
or
mr
crop
and
mr
buchan
you'll
have
three
minutes,
mr
miss
pet.
All
right.
AB
Thank
you
2022-010.
AB
It's
approximately
16.65
acres,
just
off
north
lake
center
parkway
bounded
by
the
on-ramp
for
I-485.
It
is
currently
zoned
bp
and
r3.
Just
a
small
portion
in
that
top
right
corner,
zoned,
r3
proposed
zoning
is
b2
conditional
and
the
adopted
place
type
from
the
2040
policy
map
does
recommend
this
area
around
north
lake
and
north
lake
mall
as
a
regional
activity
center.
AB
The
proposal
with
this
petition
is
to
request
a
maximum
of
78
000
square
feet,
which
would
be
developed
with
auto
sales,
repair
and
rental
uses,
as
well
as
any
incidental
or
accessory
uses
permit
in
the
b2
district
does
prohibit
the
sale
and
repair
of
tractor
trucks
on
the
site.
I
guess
tractor
trailers.
AB
That's
a
new
term
limits.
The
maximum
number
of
principal
buildings
to
four
you
can
see
those
outlined
in
blue
does
allow
for
an
enhanced
vehicle
display
area
with
landscaping
and
one-way
drive
along
the
southern
boundary
commits
to
a
75-foot
class
b
buffer.
That
would
be
reduced
by
25
percent,
which
comes
out
to
56.25
feet
with
a
fence
along
the
site's
eastern
bounder.
You
can
see
that
there
on
the
right
side
of
the
plan
does
convey
a
perpetual,
greenway
and
stormwater
easement
to
mecklenburg
county
park
and
rec
near
the
site's.
AB
Western
boundary
also
includes
the
following
transportation
provisions:
the
installation
of
eight
for
planning
strip
and
eight
foot
sidewalk
along
the
site.
Southern
boundary
and
along
north
lake
center
parkway
does
provide
access
via
future
public
street
along
the
southern
rezoning
boundary,
and
also
commits
to
complete
a
technical
traffic
memorandum
to
be
approved
by
cdot
prior
to
the
permitting
of
the
proposed
full
access
street
connection
to
north
lake
center.
Parkway
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
this
petition
due
to
some
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation
to
work
through.
AB
It
is
inconsistent
overall
with
the
recommendation
for
regional
activity
center
on
the
site.
Regional
activity
center
does
permit
things
like
auto
dealerships,
but
they
would
be
enclosed.
They
wouldn't
be
out
in
the
traditional
sense
like
this.
One
would
be
this
one
did
work
to
try
to
bring
some
buildings
up
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
street
to
offset
some
of
the
the
parking
and
inventory
of
the
site
itself.
That
would
be
more
focused
on
the
485
sites,
so
do
want
to
at
least
acknowledge
that,
but
overall
staff
did
determine
that.
AB
It
was
inconsistent
with
the
recommendation
of
that
regional
activity
center,
but
do
still
feel
that
it's
inappropriate
use
there
along
the
interstate
ramp
and
through
some
of
the
design
criteria
that
they
did
built
into
the
petition.
So
with
that,
we
will
turn
it
over
to
the
petitioner
team
and
we'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
following
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
C
AL
Council
members,
members
of
zoning
committee,
my
name
is
john
carmichael
and
I
represent
the
petitioner
maglc
llc
with
me
tonight,
or
jeff
cropp
of
the
petitioner
nick
bashan,
the
design
resource
group.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
By
the
way
the
site
contains
about
16.6
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
north
lake
center
parkway
generally
at
the
southwest
quadrant
of
the
I-45
and
I-77
interchange
next
slide.
AL
AL
As
dave
said,
the
request
is
to
go
to
b2cd
to
allow
a
automotive
sales
and
service
facility
on
the
site
that
could
contain
up
to
78
000
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area.
Next.
AL
This
is
the
resulting
plan.
It
would
allow
the
four
buildings
there
would
be
a
new
public
street
constructed
and
that's
how
the
site
would
achieve
its
access.
Two
of
the
buildings
have
been
pulled
up
to
the
closer
to
the
street,
to
present
a
more
urban
edge
and,
as
dave
said,
there
would
be
a
greenway
easement
conveyed
to
mecklenburg
county
along
the
western
portion
of
the
site.
AL
AM
AM
Right
now,
we
are
now
in
six
states
and
we're
operating
25
dealerships
representing
23
brands,
everything
from
domestic
to
tier
1
imports
and
also
luxury
and
ultra
luxury,
and
we
really
have
a
track
record
of
being
involved
with
the
community,
also
in
a
positive
way,
with
education
and
families
throughout
the
southeast.
We're
now
currently
up
to
1100
team
members,
and
we
once
again
hope
that
you
can
see
that
we
plan
to
continue
to
to
grow
the
company,
but
also
growing
the
community,
along
with
north
charlotte.
AL
D
No
problem,
no
problem,
I
do
I
have
a
question.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
for
staff
for
the
petitioner
and
it
relates
to
that
public
street
that
is
going
to
it
seems
like
it's
going
to
dead
end
on
to
77..
D
D
You
know
some
type
of
shadowy
place.
You
know
that
dead
ends
that
doesn't
exist.
So
is
there
any
consideration
for
the
lighting
situation
on
on
on
the
street
there
from
a
safety
perspective,
and
is
there
anything
that
we
can
kind
of
condition
along
those
lines
so
start
with
staff
yeah.
AB
I
don't
I
don't
see
anything
on
the
plan
and
reference
that
I'm
not
sure
if
the
petitioner
has
any
thoughts
or
plans
on
that
or
jacob.
If
you
guys
have
anything,
that's
like
standard
for
street
design
in
regards
to
street
lighting
or
or
not,
maybe
a
question
better
served
by
the
petitioner
to
see
if
they
have
plans
for
that
area.
Specific
to
lighting.
AL
AL
Y
AM
Yes,
we'll
make
sure
that,
obviously,
that
everything's
in
a
safe
nature
and
we're
working
alone
with
nick
bouchon
on
that
and
we
feel
confident
we'll
be
able
to
meet
the
needs.
AN
And
jeff,
I
I
can
step
in
as
well.
This
is
nick
bushom
from
design
resource
group.
As
john
was
trying
to
say,
this
will
be
continuation
and
of
network
streets
public
network
streets.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
full
network
that
connects
throughout
all
the
southern
developments
existing
and
future
and
we'll
have
to
coordinate
with
cda
to
meet
their
standards,
their
public
lighting
standards
for
uniformity.
AN
So
that's
gonna,
be
a
big
item
as
we
get
on
to
permitting
and
make
sure
from
the
public
street
edge
then
also
we'll
work
with
with
the
mills
group
internally
as
well.
AB
D
Yeah,
I
I
miss
represented,
is
actually
the
public
street
that
is
running
into
north
lake
center
parkway,
okay.
I
can't
really
get
a
great
idea
of
what.
AB
O
Yeah,
so
that's
something
we
would
typically
coordinate
during
permitting
to
to
find
a
solution
if
they
proposed
it
with
our
standards.
AB
Lighting
along
since
it's
a
public
street
does
that
get
continued
out
along
their
frontage,
or
do
we
want
to
include
some
notes?
I
think
we
might
need
to
coordinate
just
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
some
clarity
that
would
at
least
continue
down,
and
I
think
that's
what
you're
kind
of
getting
at
it
doesn't
just
stop
at
the
end
of
their
property
and
say.
Well
now
we
have
no
lights
in
this
tree,
save
area
and
all
that,
okay
yeah.
AB
F
As
far
as
the
staff
recommendation
is
concerned,
it
appears
to
me
to
be
a
very
weak
argument
to
justify
non-compliance
with
a
policy
map.
That's
just
recently
been
approved,
so
my
question
to
both
staff
and
the
petitioner
for
staff.
Are
we
getting
ahead
of
the
community
planning
process
by
potentially
allowing
a
change
to
the
policy
map
through
this
petition.
AB
F
Noticed
that
that
this
is
one
of
three
in
our
in
our
deck
this
evening
in
terms
of
inconsistency
with
the
policy
map,
that's
just
recently
approved
right,
and
I
know
as
far
as
the
petition
is
concerned,
I
know
mr
carmichael,
that
you
saw
when
you
filed
this,
that
this
was
probably
well.
This
was
in
in
in
non-compliance
with
the
policy
map,
but
you
went
forward
with
it
anyway
right.
AL
Well,
we
filed
this.
Can
you
hear
me
council,
member
phipps
yeah,
you
know,
of
course
we
filed
it
well
in
advance
of
the
effective
date
of
the
policy
map,
but
you
know
we
did.
We
did
meet
with
staff
to
talk
about
the
issues
and
it
seemed
to
be
a
sensible
use
to
us,
at
least
at
that
interchange
and
with
access
off
north
lake
center
parkway,
it's
kind
of
tucked
up
in
the
corner,
and
it
seemed
us
that
it
would
fit
in
well
with
the
surrounding
development.
D
I
would
I
would
just
note
this
is
2022-10,
so
I
imagine
they
probably
did
get
their
petition
way
ahead
of
right.
Okay,.
F
Without
the
policymak
right
well,
okay!
Well,
that
might
be
the
case,
but
I
did
notice
that
the
inasmuch
as
staff
agreed
that
we
had
the
policy
map,
but
still
in
three
instances
we
have
gone
and
said
it's
inconsistent,
but
we
think
it's
reasonable
in
their
public
interest.
So
I
was
just
wanting
to
get
some
clarification
on
that
because
I
know
we
got
two
others
that
that
we
did
the
same
thing
with.
D
Miss
johnson.
E
Yeah
I'd
like
a
response
to
that
from
city
staff,
yeah,
there's
a
lot
of
work
on
the
2040
plan,
whether
you,
whether
we
agreed
to
it
or
not.
This
is
the
policy
and
I
I'd
like
some
feedback,
I
mean
it
would
seem
like
we
wouldn't
be
seeing
any
more
petitions
that
are
inconsistent
or.
AB
Yeah,
I
I
don't
think
that
that
would
be
really
a
reasonable
approach
to
to
consider
that
every
parcel
would
be
identified
on
the
2040
policy
map
and
would
be
consistent
with
the
rezoning
petition
or
market
trends
or
market
conditions.
So
I
think
we
anticipate
it
always
having
inconsistencies
in
even
the
2040
plan,
and
I
would
imagine
we'll
still
have
inconsistencies,
even
after
community
area
planning,
because
you
just
can't
always
anticipate
you
know:
market
demand
for
a
property
or
location
or
what's
driving.
AB
You
know
a
certain
aspect
of
of
a
development
proposal,
but
I
think
in
this
situation
as
well,
you
know
we
looked
at
context
and
consideration
of
what
was
being
proposed.
You
know
where
it
was
being
proposed
and
whether
or
not
it
would
somewhat
live.
You
know
and
coexist
with
the
activity
center,
which
could
be
more
supported
south
of
where
this
new
public
road
would
be
built.
But
I
think
overall,
when
we
get
those
inconsistencies,
it's
a
matter
of
taking
a
look
at
the
context
of
the
area.
AB
What
else
is
going
on
the
use
being
proposed?
The
conditions
being
proposed
to
dial
it
into?
You
know
the
specifics
that
would
serve
the
site
and
then
once
we
get
beyond
that,
looking
at
it
and
saying
okay
does
this
fit
the
area?
Does
it
support?
You
know
some
of
the
overall
goals
of
the
area,
and
I
think
you
know
we're
going
to
have
inconsistencies
moving
forward
from
you
know
now
until
you
know,
even
after,
like
I
said
we
get
through
community
area
planning,
I
would
still
anticipate
things
being
inconsistent.
AB
It's
just
how
do
we?
You
know
rectify
that?
How
do
we
put
together
at
least
some
idea
of
what
to
do
when
we
come
across
that
situation
and
the
two
others
that
we
had
this
evening?
AB
It's
inconsistent
with
the
neighborhood
one
place
type,
but
it's
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
neighborhood
two
place
types
and
surrounded
by
existing
development
that
is
similar
in
fashion.
So
that
one
is,
you
know
one
one
aspect
of
it
and
I
think
in
this
particular
petition
a
commercial
use
up
against
the
interstate.
You
know
it.
It
may
not
serve
the
overall
activity
center
as
a
whole,
but
it's
not
an
inappropriate
location
for
it.
AB
I
think
that's
where
staff
was
a
little
bit
comfortable
with
the
inconsistency
being
that
we
just
like
you
said,
adopted
that,
but
I
think
trying
to
get
all
of
it
right
right
out
of
the
gates
city-wide.
I
don't
think
we
ever
envisioned
that
we'd
get
every
every
individual
parcel
right
and
everything
would
line
up
with
every
request.
So
I
think
that's.
Our
approach
is
similar
to
what
it's
always
been.
Is
you
know,
evaluate
the
request,
evaluate
the
context
and
try
to
work
through.
AB
You
know
what
the
conditions
are
and
whether
or
not
they
at
least
provide
enough
mitigation
to
that
inconsistency
which
in
this
case
we
we
felt
it.
It
did.
E
E
Something
we
consider
in
the
po
in
the
policy,
but
I
also
have
a
question
you
you
mentioned
that
semi
parking
would
be
prohibited
right
and
is
that
because
of
the
type
or
is
there
going
to
be
specific
language
that
semi
parking
would
be
prohibited?
There's.
AB
E
AB
Yeah
yeah
we've
we've
seen
that
pop
up
in
all
kinds
of
areas
at
off
monroe
road.
I
know
there's
some
up
in
prosperity.
That's
had
some
issues
with
that,
but
that
is
a
condition
of
of
this
one.
Yeah
yeah.
E
AB
AB
So
there
I
think,
there's
three
apartment
projects
that
would
be
on
the
south
side
of
where
this
petition
is
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
apartments
on
the
other
side
of
north
lake
drive
and
of
course,
we've
had
a
recent
submittal
for
some
of
the
vacant
space
around
the
mall
itself
to
contain
apartments
as
well.
So
that's
a
future
rezoning
hasn't
even
started
the
process
yet,
but
they
have
submitted
an
application.
AB
So
it's
an
apartment,
heavy
area,
and
then
this
was
the
the
request
for
the
north
side
of
that
drive
so,
rather
than
maybe
seeing
apartments
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
interstate.
This
would
be
the
use
kind
of
that
provides
a
little
bit
of
that
space
between
the
on-ramp
of
the
interstate
and
then
the
apartment
communities
to
the
south.
So.
E
E
I'm
just
trying
to
picture
a
car
dealership
next
to
apartments.
I
don't
know
that
I've
I've
seen
that
or
anywhere
is
there
going
to
be
a
required
buffer
or
like
an
extensive
buffer
between
the
residential
and
the
car
dealership.
AB
So
I
there
is
a
buffer.
I
think
it's
on
the.
Let's
see
it's
on
the
plan
right
side,
so
it's
really
against
some
of
the
vacant
land,
the
road
that
separates
them,
the
public
street
that
would
separate
the
dealership
and
the
apartments
zoning
off
and
looks
at
that
as
as
a
buffer
in
and
of
itself.
So
that
would
serve
as
that.
AB
In
this
instance,
there's
not
anything
in
front
of
that,
like
I
said
they
did
try
to
move
the
buildings
kind
of
up
to
the
front,
to
create
a
little
bit
more
of
that
urban
feel
to
it
and
keep
the
inventory
on
the
backside
of
all
that
which
should
help.
But
there
is
no
no
buffer
along
that
road
other
than
the
street
trees
along
the
planning
strip
and
then
the
road
itself,
and
then
the
apartments.
D
Think
if
you
go
to
the
east
side,
you
go
to
up
down
independence,
boulevard
and
surround
the
streets.
You
see
stuff
legacy,
but
also,
I
think,
we've
recently
dealt
with
the
rezoning
with
an
expansion
of
a
car
dealership
that
a
buds
new
apartment
construction
off
of
wallace
road.
I
think
so,
maybe
that's
something
you
could
look
at,
but
I
think
mr
phipps
brought
up
a
great
point.
D
I
think
that's
something
us
as
council
members
should
think
about.
I
would
assume
that
staff
might
also
say
that
that
doesn't
preclude
the
community
area
planning
process
for
the
community
deciding
what
future
land
use
they
want
to
see
with
whatever
changes
that
are
made.
But
this
kind
of
purgatory
phase
is
is
confusing
and
frustrating
at
times.
So.
AB
It
is,
and
we
we
struggled
with
this-
you
know
this
one
honestly
a
little
bit
as
well.
Knowing
the
activity
center
does
allow
dealerships,
but
maybe
not
in
the
more
traditional
sense.
I
think
this
one
tried
to
blend
a
little
bit
of
the
new
versus
what
you
see
in
a
normal.
You
know
auto
dealership,
so
it's
it's
not
that
they
wouldn't
be
permitted
in
an
activity
center,
but
in
this
form
they're
they're,
not
as
they
don't
fit,
as
well
with
the
activity
center
goal.
AB
But
again
I
think
they
tried
to
blend
as
much
as
they
could
this
one.
I
think
we
even
met
on
before
they
submit
it
and
we
didn't
even
have,
I
think,
maybe
the
first
draft
of
the
policy
map
may
have
just
been
adopted
so
we're
also
because
of
the
backlog
of
things.
We've
had
some
of
these
meetings
with
the
petitioner.
AB
You
know
six
eight
months
ago
in
some
instances
and
we're
just
now
seeing
them
come
to
hearing.
So
some
of
our
guidance
at
that
time
was
also
looking
based
off
of
older
plans
versus
some
of
the
new
stuff.
So
we're
still
kind
of
honestly
stuck
a
little
bit
in
between
some
things
so,
like
I
said
I
wanted
to
point
out,
the
petitioner
did
try
to
blend
a
little
bit
of
old
and
new,
but
you
know
this
is
this
is
one
I
think
that's
certainly.
I
anticipated
some
of
this
conversation
on
it.
D
Motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
Second,
any
discussion
on
them
properly
made
motion
in
a
second
here:
none
I'm
yes,
mr
johnson,.
E
D
Phipps,
yes,
segal
cindy;
yes,
miss
watlington,
mr
driggs.
Yes,
mr
bukhari,
yes,
mr
newton.
R
D
AE
D
By
range
water,
real
estate
location,
approximately
8.45
acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
ibm,
drive
west
of
interstate
85,
south
of
west
wt
harris
boulevard
in
council,
district
4,
miss
johnson's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
re-2
research
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
r-17.
Mfcd
multi-family
residential
conditional
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition
upon
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
greenway,
easement
and
outstanding
issue
and
technical
revisions
related
to
transportation.
D
I
see
no
opposition,
so
miss
mcmahon
you'll
have
three
minutes
with
your
team.
After
miss
benton's
staff
presentation
all
right.
Thank
you.
AH
All
right,
thank
you.
It's
18.45
acres
on
the
east
side
of
ibm,
drive,
west
of
interstate
85
and
south
of
west
wt
harris
boulevard.
The
site
is
currently
wooded,
you'll
see
just
the
north
property.
That's
owned,
r17
mfcd,
the
site
that
we're
looking
at
now
is
re2,
proposing,
also
r17
mfcd,
and
so
that
rezoning
to
the
north
just
occurred
not
that
long
ago
as
well,
a
very
similar
petition
as
what
we're
looking
at
tonight
next
slide.
It's
the
2020
2040
policy
map
recommends
community
activity
center
for
the
site.
AH
It
is
proposing
up
to
300
multi-family
drilling
units
with
no
more
than
six
buildings
on
the
site,
maximum
building
height
of
72
feet.
It
provides
a
left
turn
lane
access
and
at
one
point
at
one
point
at
the
site,
and
they
write
in
right
out
at
another
point
further
down
the
there
will
be
a
multi-use
path
that
is
constructed
along
the
site.
Frontage.
It
installs
a
pedestrian
signal.
AH
At
the
intersection
of
wt
harrison
ibm
drive
pending
ncdot's
approval,
it
conveys
a
portion
of
the
rear
of
the
site
for
the
dobby
creek
of
greenway
provides
a
30-foot
setback
along
ibm
drive
for
right
away.
It
restricts
the
placement
of
surface
parking
between
ibm
drive
and
the
proposed
buildings
and
provides
architectural
standards
for
the
multi-family
buildings
and
commits
to
eight
thousand
square
feet
of
open
space
improved
with
amenities.
AH
Next
slide
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
petition
upon
the
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
greenway,
easement
and
ousting
issue
and
technical
revisions
related
to
transportation.
It
is
consistent
with
the
2040
policy
map
recommendation
for
community
activity
center
and
I'll
take
any
questions
or.
D
Thank
you
very
much:
keith
mcvein,
paul
macarthur
and
gary
clara
and
dennis
walls.
You
have
three
minutes,
mr
mcmahon.
AJ
Community
council
members
of
zoning
committee,
keith
mcmahon
with
more
van
allen
assisting
range
water
with
me
tonight
online
is
palmer
macarthur
and
gary
mclare
leclair
with
range
water,
they're
happy
to
answer
your
questions
as
well
as
dennis
walls
with
land
design.
The
land
planner
range
water,
funded,
founded
in
2006
they've,
been
active
here
in
charlotte
that
this
will
be
their
eighth
community
they've
currently
constructed
over
fifteen
about
fifteen
hundred
units
with
six
hundred
currently
under
construction.
AJ
So
a
active
multi-family
developer
in
charlotte
looking
for
an
additional
community
to
bring
some
more
housing
to
the
to
the
area.
Next
slide,
please,
as
john
covered
it
zoned,
our
e3
re2
proposed
learning
r17
mf
to
allow
the
site
to
be
developed
with
a
residential
community
with
up
to
300
units.
We
are
next
slide.
Please
we
are
dedicating
land
to
the
county
for
the
dobie
creek
greenway.
We
will
address
the
comments
in
the
staff
analysis
and
provide
those
additional
updates
in
detail
when
we
go
to
the
last
slide,
which
shows
our
proposed.
AJ
As
john
mentioned
consistent
with
the
activity
center,
we
do
meet
several
of
the
goals
next
slide
of
the
several
of
the
goals
of
the
2040
plan.
Next
slide,
our
proposed
site
plan
again
buildings
oriented
toward
ibm
drive.
We
are
continuing
the
12-foot
multi-use
path
along
ibm,
drive
and
we'll
be
providing
a
connection
or
easement
for
to
allow
connection
from
the
development
to
the
future.
Adobe
creek
greenway
working
with
ncdot
to
hopefully
add
some
pedestrian
improvements
at
the
intersection
of
ibm
drive
and
research
again
substituents
to
dot.
Allowing
that
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
comments
from
council.
E
Thank
you
and
I
met
with
keith
on
this
one
so
and
the
first
thing
I
said,
that's
a
lot
of
apartments
in
that
area
right
so
because
it's
being
net
built
next
to
another
complex
with,
I
think,
300
apartments.
It.
AJ
E
So
this
is
going
from
an
area
that
didn't
have
any
residential
and
now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
growth
right.
So
it's
changed.
So
thank
you,
dave
this
or
mr
pettin.
This
is
one
where
I'd
like
to
see
pending
and
approved
petitions
in
that
area,
and
this
is
what
I
mean
when
I
talk
about
the
cumulative
traffic
impact,
because
if
300
units
are
going
to
produce
1300
trips
per
day
in
in
this
complex
right
next
door,
there's
another
1300
trips
and
neither
petition
would
have
required
a
traffic
study.
E
But
yet
the
residents
in
the
neighborhood
are
impacted.
So
I
would
like
to
see
pending
petitions-
I
guess
in
the
last
year
pending
and
approved
petitions
in
that
area
and
find
out
what
we
can
do
as
a
city.
E
To
address
the
traffic,
that's
that's
going
to
be
generated
in
that
area.
O
I'll
just
note
that
we
did
have
the
petitioner
do
a
traffic
study
for
this
particular
project,
but
no
outside
improvements.
Other
than
turn
lanes
at
the
site,
driveways
were
required.
O
AJ
E
Area
is
looking
like
pending
and
approved
because
we
know
there's
a
cumulative
effect
and
an
impact
that
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
be
strategic
about.
Okay,.
AJ
D
Counseling
I'll
make
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
Second,
thank
you.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion
hearing
now
we'll
go
with
the
roll
call
vote.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson,
yes,.
E
D
AA
D
Segelsten's,
not
here
miss
watlington,
mr
driggs.
Yes,
mr
bukhari,
yes,
mr
newton.
R
Y
Estate
location,
approximately
26.65
acres,
loaded
on
the
east
side
of
beard,
grove,
north
of
valley,
creek,
road
and
council
district
before
wisconsin.
Y
D
So
we
will
do
that.
All
over
agenda
item
number
30
resulting
petition
2022-22
by
appaloosa
real
estate
partners.
A
location
is
approximately
26.65
acres,
loaded
located
on
the
east
side
of
beard,
road
north
of
mallard
creek
road
in
council,
district
4,
miss
johnson's
district.
The
current
zoning
is
r3
single-family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
r22.
Mfcd
multi-family
residential
conditional
ur-2cd
urban
residential
conditional
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
petition
upon
resolution
of
outstanding
issues
related
to
transportation.
D
We
have
no
speakers
in
opposition,
so
miss
grant
you'll
have
three
minutes
after
staff's
presentation,
mr
penn.
AB
AB
Northeast
of
this,
the
place
type
adopted
place
type
from
the
2040
policy
map
is
neighborhood
one.
You
can
see
that
in
yellow
the
orange
around.
That
is
the
neighborhood
two
place
type.
The
proposal
with
this
petition
is
for
up
to
347
multi-family
units
and
110
town
homes
that
comes
in
about
18
dwelling
units
per
acre,
commits
to
an
eight-foot
planting
strip
and
sidewalk
along
beard.
Road
odell,
school
road
and
rickenbacker
road
does
provide
access
from
beard,
road,
odell,
school,
road
and
rickenbacker
road
as
well.
AB
So
lots
of
interconnectivity
to
some
of
the
existing
developments
that
are
in
that
area
does
provide
amenitized
open
space
as
well
as
dedication
of
a
one-acre
park
to
mecklenburg
county
does
provide
multi-family
architectural
details
that
includes
buildings
exceeding
120
feet
shall
have
modulations
of
the
massing
and
facade
buildings,
shovel
front
or
side
facade
face
along
public
streets.
Building.
Elevations
shall
be
designed
with
vertical
bays
or
articulated
architectural
facade
features,
and
then
the
townhomes
also
have
architectural
details
for
usable,
porches
and
stoops.
AB
That
would
form
a
predominant
feature
of
the
building
design,
pitched
roofs,
no
less
than
412
garage
doors,
visible
visible
from
the
public
or
private
street.
Would
minimize
visual
impact
and
set
those
garage
doors
back
12
to
24
inches
from
the
front
wall
plane
and
walkways
would
be
provided
to
connect
all
residential
entrances
to
sidewalks
along
public
and
private
streets
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
this
petition.
We
do
have
some
outstanding
issues
with
transportation
to
get
resolved,
as
mentioned
earlier.
It
isn't
consistent
with
the
2040
policy
map
that
does
recommend
the
neighborhood
one
place.
AB
Type
staff
did
provide
some
considerations
for
making
our
recommendation.
It's
consistent
with
the
existing
multi-family
uses.
Excuse
me,
adjacent
to
the
site,
does
add
to
a
variety
of
housing
options
in
the
area
with
multi-family
attached,
single-fam,
multi-family,
single-family
attached
and
then
transitioned
to
the
existing
single-family
round.
AB
D
AA
Sir,
thank
you
for
having
me
here
tonight.
My
name
is
bridget
grant.
I'm
a
land
use
consultant
with
moran
van
allen,
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
appaloosa
real
estate
partners.
As
council
member
mentions,
brian
miller,
josh,
wilkes
and
lynn
leslie
is
on
the
line.
Virtually
dave
did
a
great
job,
as
he
always
says,
addressing
most
of
the
issues.
So
I'm
not
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this.
I
believe
on
the
last
speaker
for
the
night.
AA
AA
This
development
is
going
to
provide
two
street
extensions
that
provide
internal
connectivity
to
adjacent
other
communities
and
other
options
to
get
out
to
beard
road,
as
well
as
that
one
acre
park,
one
of
the
things
that
was
critical
to
us
was
to
provide
the
one
acre
park,
central
with
accessibility,
not
just
to
this
community
and
not
pushed
to
the
edges
but
central
and
accessible
to
everyone
in
the
area.
So,
with
that,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
end
it
here
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
was
actually
going
to
comment
on
the
location
of
that
park.
I
think
that's
that
shouldn't
be
overlooked.
D
I
think
this
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
with
the
udl
in
terms
of
open
space
and
and
and
making
sure
that
it
is
able
to
be
amenitized
for
the
public
and
usable
something
I
met
with
county
commissioners
often
times,
especially
in
larger
developments.
If
you're
getting
open
space
in
a
place,
that's
not
very
accessible
because
of
terrain
or
isn't
amenitizable.
How
good
is
that
open
space?
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
of
of
of
how
that
translates
in
land
use.
D
So
thank
you
for
that.
Color
presentation
that
pops
out
thank.
AA
D
It
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
council
yeah,
ms
johnson.
AA
F
Yeah,
that
was
one
of
my
questions
is,
I
noticed,
you
know
these
are
the
the
last
one
last
one
we
went
over
and
this
one
is
substantial,
multi-family
development.
Yet
we
had
like
zero
zero
people
coming
to
the
community
meeting,
which
is
interesting.
I
don't
know
if
that's
because
these
areas,
pretty
I
don't
know,
is
this
in
the
etj
or
in
the
city
limits.
F
Okay,
so
yeah,
so
I
was
just
you
know
curious,
you
know.
Is
it
because
it's
you
know
basically
large
swaths
of
land
in
these
areas
in
northeast
charlotte?
That
still
exists.
F
That,
maybe
you
know
this
plot
is
not
close
to
what
it
looks
like
it's
close
to
a
residential
development
over
here,
but
the
fact
that
there's
no-
but
you
know
I
mean
we've-
had
other
petitions
tonight
that
you
know
people
are
really
interested
when
they
have
multi-family
development
coming
in
that
area.
But
these
two
apostles
strike
me
as
as
outliers
and
as
much
as
they
have
no.
You
know
seemingly
community
participation
in
the
community
meeting,
and
I
was
just
you
know,
trying
to
figure
that
out.
AA
Council
member
phipps
from
time
to
time
I'll
get
a
phone
call
where
someone
will
call
for
information,
and
this
on
this
particular
case.
Residents
who
lived
along
beard
road
did
call
and
reach
out.
They
did
not
participate
in
the
community
meeting,
but
they
call
for
basic
information
about
accessibility
where
the
roads
are
going
to
go
and
if
they'll
be
impacted.
H
Mine
died.
Excuse
me.
I
was
just
responding
to
council
member
phipps
that
oftentimes,
what
I
see
and
what
I
notice
on
this
screen
is
that
they're
adjacent
to
a
multi-family
complex
and
what
I
tend
to
see,
at
least
in
district
three,
is
that
homeowners
are
more
inclined
to
come
out
because
they
have
a
stake
in
the
land
and
also
I
see
it
appears
here
that
the
nearest
kind
of
single
family
resident
is
a
little
bit
off
or
does
not
share
the
road
there.
H
I
see
the
the
adjacent
property
at
the
top
left-hand
corner
of
the
screen
is
a
cul-de-sac,
and
so
they
are
a
little
bit
less
inclined
as
long
as
there's
a
buffer
to
speak
up,
but
I
think
that
that
raises
a
point,
especially
as
we
continue
to
move
toward
this
shift
of
rental
housing
versus
ownership
is
that
we
will
see
a
corresponding
drop
in
community
involvement,
at
least
that's
what
I've
seen
to
date.
So
something
to
think
about.
E
Well,
I
know
we've
talked
as
a
a
council,
at
least
some
of
us,
and
I
can't
remember
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
but
expanding
the
proximity
where
notification
goes
out
to
homeowners.
Is
that
a
part
of
the
new
udo
or
new
zoning
policy?
Because
we
hear
that
from
residents
then
and
then,
when
they
do
find
out
about
it,
then
you
know
then
we're
working
overtime
to
meet
with
the
developer
and
and
trying
to
to
allow
them
to
be
heard.
Another
thing
about
recent
petitions.
E
We
had
several
community
meetings
that
were
held
on
election
day,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
developers
that
did
do
that
some
of
them
have
will
vow
to
have
another
community
meeting.
So
I
don't
know
when
this
one
was.
I
don't
know
if
that's
one
of
these,
but
I
would
like
to
see
any
that
were
held
on
july
26th
we'd
like
to
have
another
community
meeting.
E
E
D
Good
cashman
johnson,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
E
Is
there
a
policy?
Are
we
looking
to
expand
the
proximity
where
notification
goes
out.
AB
AB
The
challenge
is-
and
I
think
miss
wellington
was
alluding
to
as
well
the
apartment
complexes
where
we
can't
really
mail
it
to
every
unit
there,
but
are
there
ways
that
we
can
have
some
type
of
ability
to
mail
it
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
to
not
just
the
corporate
office
but
gets
to
the
actual
leasing
office?
They
can
maybe
post
it
in
the
lobby
post
it
in
the
mail
room
where
residents
pick
up
their
mail
or
is
there
a
way?
Also?
AB
Is
there
like
a
sign
up
system
that
we
can
continue
to
explore
where
folks,
even
if
they
live
in
an
apartment,
can
register
and
get
city
updates
through
some
kind
of
standard
mailing?
AB
You
know
electronic
mailing,
so
I
think
those
are
all
things
that
that
we'd
like
to
continue
to
explore
and
really
you
know-
should
be
looking
to
implement
because
you
know
outside
of
that,
like
you
said
when
you
have
that
many
apartment
communities
next
door,
they're
just
as
impacted
as
a
homeowner,
they
may
not
feel
that
they
are
included
because
they're,
not
they
don't
have
that
ownership
stake,
but
you
know
they
they
want
to
live
there.
AB
D
E
D
R
D
By
city
of
charlotte
location
is
approximately
3.12
acres
located
on
the
west
side
of
beam
road
north
of
shopping,
road
and
south
of
center
park
drive
in
city
council
district
3,
miss
watlington's
district.
Current
zoning
is
our
three
single-family
residential
and
the
proposed
zoning
is
institutional.
Stan.
AB
AH
Okay,
thanks
dave,
this
is
approximately
3.12
acres
on
the
west
side
of
beam
road,
north
of
shopping,
road
and
south
of
center
park
drive.
You
can
look
at
the
aerial
there
and
see
that
there's
other
similar
institutional
uses
and
city
services
and
city-owned
land
in
the
area.
So
the
city
is
looking
at
this
parcel.
That's
owned,
r3,
single-family,
residential
and
proposing
to
zone
it
to
institutional
policy.
Map
recommends
manufacturing
and
logistics
for
the
site.
AH
Staff
has
recommended
approval
of
the
petition.
It
is
inconsistent
with
that
policy
map
recommendation
for
manufacturing
and
logistics,
but
it
is
not
adjacent
to
any
residential
uses
or
zoning
districts
and
development
under
the
existing
zoning
wooding
would
be
incompatible
with
the
site's
context.
AH
D
We'll
have
a
roll
call
vote,
see
no
discussion.
I'm
a
yes
miss
johnson.