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Great Neighborhoods Committee - August 15, 2022
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Okay
good
afternoon
I
am
victoria
watlington,
your
great
neighborhoods
committee
chair
and
we
are
gathering
for
our
monthly
great
neighborhoods
committee,
we'll
begin
with
a
round
of
introductions,
first
those
online
and
then
in
the
room,
and
then
we
will
cover
our
agenda.
We
do
have
two
large
agenda
items
today
and
we'd
like
to
get
started
so
I'll
begin
with
my
committee
members,
who
are
joining
as
a
heads
up.
C
We
do
plan
on
having
great
neighborhoods
and
economic
development
committee
members
today,
so
that
we
can
cover
the
source
of
income
protections
and
our
city's
enforcement
policy,
as
both
committees
are
interested
in
that
body
of
work
and
in
addition
to
that,
we
will
be
covering
some
of
our
anti-displacement
work
and
how
that
relates
to
the
udl
going
forward.
So
once
again,
I'm
victoria
wellington,
your
committee
chair
and
I
will
open
the
floor
to
committee
members
online
to
introduce
themselves.
I
see
the
vice
chairman
has
joined
us.
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C
K
Thank
you,
councilmember
watlington,
as
you
referred
to
before.
We
have
two
agenda
items
today:
source
of
income,
protection
and
city
supported
housing
as
a
follow-up
conversation
from
the
july
11
city
council
meeting
and
then
we'll
pivot
into
the
nest.
Commission
update
from
the
two
co-chairs,
which
will
actually
be
introduced
by
deputy
director
hefner
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
broader
perspective
around
anti-displacement.
K
K
With
the
exception
of
the
enforcement
provisions,
with
a
decision
made
that
night
to
defer
that
to
a
future
council
meeting
and
staff
was
provided
explicit
direction
by
council
on
july
11
to
move
through
a
series
of
steps
which
are
summarized
here
on
this
slide.
First,
to
evaluate
and
finalize
the
recommended
policy
enforcement
provisions
to
seek
community
impact
community
feedback
to
also
seek
feedback
from
great
neighborhoods
committee
and
the
economic
development
committee,
which
is
that
that's
the
you
are
here
today,
item
on
this
particular
slide
and
then,
ultimately,
in
hopes
of
positioning.
K
Moving
forward
coming
out
of
the
july
11
council
meeting,
we
felt
it
would
be
helpful
to
develop
guiding
principles
that
could
really
inform
our
thinking
as
we
looked
to
refine
the
enforcement
mechanism,
and
here
on
this
slide
is,
is
a
snapshot
of
some
of
the
key
features
that
we're
referring
to
as
guiding
principles.
Here.
K
Number
one
really,
frankly,
is
just
an
affirmation
of
some
of
the
specific
feedback
that
we
received
from
council
in
advance
of
your
vote
on
july
11th,
and
these
features
really,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
are
already
built
into
the
policy
that
you
approved.
But
it's
really
just
a
reminder
that
the
policy
that
you
passed
by
design
was
meant
and
is
very
all-inclusive,
so
in
terms
of
city
supported
developments,
it's
affordable
or
market
rate
housing.
K
In
terms
of
tigs,
we
had
a
number
of
conversations
around
how
they're
oftentimes
many
players
involved
in
the
tax
increment
grant
development
scenarios.
So
the
policy
makes
it
very
clear
that
this
policy
is
applicable
to
either
the
master
developer
and
or
the
third
party
developer.
Whoever
is
is
doing
housing
within
a
particular
tig
district.
K
It
would
all
be
applicable,
and
then
you
know,
we've
also
teased
out
other
specific
scenarios
to
ensure
there's
transparency
up
front
such
as,
if
there
were
an
incentive
period
associated
with
the
tig,
for
instance,
that
were
shorter
than
the
affordability
period
agreed
upon.
This
particular
policy
would
be
applicable
to
the
the
longer
of
those
two
periods
moving
down
here
on
the
slide.
K
We
think
this
particular
item
is
important
to
provide
upfront
transparency,
so
all
parties
involved
have
a
clear
sense
for
who's
accountable
for
adhering
to
the
policy.
At
what
point
would
there
be
potential
penalties
imposed?
If
there
are
penalties
imposed,
how
long
would
they
be
imposed
and
what
would
the
maximum
penalty
amounts
be?
Those
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
we've
really
worked
hard
to
ensure
are
as
clear
as
possible
in
the
recommendation
that
we'll
share
today
next
slide.
Please.
K
I've
intentionally
we've
intentionally
grayed
out
the
items
on
the
right
because
we're
gonna
pace
through
those
one
by
one,
but
just
as
a
starting
point
as
really
just
for
reference.
The
original
proposal
that
was
incorporated
into
the
july
11th
request
for
council
action
was
which
council
elected
not
to
vote
on.
That
night
is
shown
here
on
the
left.
It
kind
of
a
tiered
progression
from
a
first
violation
to
a
third
violation
where,
on
one
end
of
the
spectrum,
the
first
time
through
it
would
trigger
a
written
warning
and
mandatory
compliance
training.
K
All
the
way
to
the
scenarios
where
you
have
three
or
more
violations
where
there
would
be
a
notification
of
default,
potentially
leading
to
a
refund
of
any
funds
provided
by
the
city
through
the
applicable
city
supported
project.
So
I've
listed
this
here
for
reference,
but
really
what
we've
embarked
upon
over
the
last
five
weeks
is
a
lot
of
conversations
with
stakeholders
in
order
to
refine
the
recommendations
associated
with
the
enforcement
approach
to
be
consistent
with
the
guiding
principles
that
I
just
alluded
to
on
the
previous
page.
K
So
we
have
if
they
were
in
the
room.
I
hope
they
would
smile
when
I
say
this,
but
we've
really
pushed
each
other
very
hard
on
these
recommendations
over
the
past
five
weeks.
You
know,
we've
challenged
each
other
to
to
really
be
thoughtful
about
this,
and
I
think
it's
meaningful
that
that
I
can
say
now.
K
K
K
So,
in
the
event
that
the
housing
provider
goes
through
that
180
day
period
and
is
unable
or
unwilling
to
remedy
the
situation,
then
what
happens
at
the
end
of
the
180-day
period
is
there's
a
trigger,
which
is
number
three
shown
in
the
blue
font
here,
where
the
housing
provider
would
be
subject
to
a
maximum
contractual
remedy
of
up
to
23
thousand
dollars.
That
would
be
payable
to
the
city
of
charlotte,
and
of
course,
you
might
wonder,
ask
well:
where
did
the
23
thousand
dollars
come
from?
K
It's
considered
a
max
maximum
contractual
remedy,
but
the
dollar
amount
itself.
The
threshold
level
is
intended
to
mirror
what
hud
has
in
place
for
those
housing
act
violations.
It
would
be
an
up
to
amount
to
give
us
some
flexibility
based
on
facts
and
circumstances,
to
to
apply
discretion
to
those
scenarios.
K
I'll
be
able
to
move
through
and
go
to
the
next
slide
I'll,
be
able
to
move
through
these
next
through
violation
scenarios
more
quickly
because
they're
very
similar
by
design.
We
wanted
this
to
be
straightforward.
So
if
you
get
to
a
two
violations
within
five
years
sort
of
scenario,
everything
looks
the
same
in
terms
of
the
provider
has
30
days
in
order
to
cure
the
situation
without
penalty.
If
they
are
unable
to
do
so,
then
it
triggers
the
180
day
window
where
there's
the
hundred
dollars
per
day
paid
to
the
applicant.
K
If
the
provider
is
is
unable
to
remedy
the
situation
and
then
ultimately,
here
at
number
three.
The
one
item-
that's
different:
different
consistent
with
hud's,
fair
housing
act,
violation
parameters
is
that
the
maximum
contractual
remedy
is
up
to
fifty
seven
thousand
five
hundred.
So
you
can
see
two
violations
results
in
there
being
more
teeth
associated
with
the
policy
and
then
ultimately,
if
you
get,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
K
But,
ultimately,
if
those
remedies
do
not
occur,
that
there
are
sizable
penalties,
potentially
that
would
that
would
happen.
So
I'll,
be
very
brief.
On
the
next
two
slides
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
this
one,
because
I'm
sure
that's
where
most
of
the
discussion
will
be,
we
can
jump
into
just,
I
believe,
just
two
more
slides
here.
Next
one
please.
K
You
know
it's
not
a
mandate
that
housing
providers
accept
housing,
choice
vouchers,
because
we
would
still
expect
in
all
circumstances,
that
the
providers,
the
housing
operators
have
the
ability
to
rely
on
what
we're
referring
to
the
non-discrete
in
a
non-discriminatory
manner,
rental
eligibility
criteria,
so
the
ability
to
pay
rent,
a
credit
history,
criminal
background
checks,
all
the
housing
debt
providers
would
still
have
the
ability
to
rely
on
those
as
objective
criteria,
and
this
is
something
that
we
discussed
in
advance
of
council
approving
the
policy
there's.
So
there's
nothing
new.
K
There
number
two
and
number
three
are
consistent
with
our
discussions
before
just
a
reminder
that,
in
the
event
of
an
alleged
violation,
the
the
applicant
would
reach
out
to
the
city
through
311
or
directly
to
the
community
relations
committee
and
the
community
relations
committee
would
then
initiate
an
investigation
if,
if
there
is
a
violation
that
is
not
remedied
within
that
180
day
window.
That
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
scenario.
So
I'm
making
reference
here,
for
example,
to
the
23
000
contractual
remedy.
K
If
there's
one
violation
that
isn't
fixed
within
180
days,
then
the
city
of
charlotte,
in
terms
of
deciding
how
much
up
to
the
23
000
amount,
would
be
appropriate
appropriate.
In
those
circumstances,
it
would
really
depend
on
the
on
the
nature
of
the
investigation
allowing
the
crc
to
do
its
work,
to
do
its
investigation
to
render
its
findings
and
based
on
the
nature
and
circumstances
of
the
violation,
the
degree
of
culpability
and
history
of
prior
violations.
K
Those
are
the
types
of
factors
that
would
be
factored
into
the
decision
on
what
the
maximum,
what
the
contractual
remedy
should
be
and
then
very
last
slide.
Here
is
just
a
reminder
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
the
city
will
do
to
in
in
hopes
of
avoiding
these
violation
scenarios
at
all.
Right
I
mean
for
us
success
is
that
we
do
a
good
job
of
communicating
the
policy
to
housing
providers
in
advance.
K
And
then.
Finally,
one
of
the
recommendations
that
came
to
us
from
the
ad
hoc
group,
which
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world,
is
a
requirement
that
housing
providers
preserve
applicant
denials
and
justifications
for
at
least
24
months,
and
those
will
be
all
applicant
denials,
because
we
need
to
put
the
crc
in
a
position
where,
if
they're
conducting
an
investigation
that
they
have
a
comparison
point
for
reference.
So
if
they're,
if
they're
looking
at
an
individual
that
was
denied,
that's
a
housing
choice
voucher.
K
K
So
that
is
the
the
content
that
that
I
wanted
to
share
today.
If
we
could
go
back
to
the
slide
that
showed
this
column,
I
guess
would
be
slide.
Number
eight
in
all
blue
font
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
kim
graham
from
greater
charlotte
apartment
association
and
fulton
meacham
from
olivia
and
are
both
on
and
I'm
sure
at
council's
discretion
or
interest,
would
be
more
than
willing
to
share
their
perspective
on
anything
that
I
that
I
just
covered
so
with
that
council
member
watlington
I'd
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
or
feedback.
K
I've
seen
if
willy
was
was
in
the
room
or
on
the
call,
I'm
not
aware
that
a
lot
of
what
the
crc
will
do
here
or
really
everything
they
do
will
be
similar
to
the
work
that's
conducted
around
charlotte
and
mecklenburg
county's
existing
fair
housing
ordinances,
so
the
work
they
do
will
be
just
modeled
after
procedures
that
they
already
have
in
place.
I
can,
as
a
follow-up,
get
a
direct
answer
to
your
question
because
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
a
deadline
per
se,
that
they
have.
M
That
is
a
really
good
response
on
a
fair
housing
complaint.
We
by
law
have
up
up
to
100
days
to
actually
investigate
the
complaint.
I
don't
imagine
that
these
complaints
would
take
that
long.
So
I
would,
I
would
start
off
with
us,
setting
a
45-day
timeline
to
investigate
these
complaints
and,
if
we
decide
later
after
after
investigating
some
convey
some
complaints
that
we
might
need
additional
time,
we
could
always
change
that,
but
I
would
start
off
with
a
45-day
time
limit.
K
M
Absolutely
once
we
do
the
investigation,
we
want
to
do
two
things,
one,
the
discrimination
or
the
difference
in
treatment.
We
want
that
to
go
away,
and,
secondly,
we
want
to
attempt
to
make
the
complainant
whole
again,
which
would
allow
him
or
her
to
have
what
they
would
have
had
absent
the
difference
in
treatment
because
of
their
protective
status.
C
F
Thank
you,
I
want
to
say
I'm
fully
in
support
here.
I
had
two
questions
and
one
of
them
was.
We
talked
on
the
night.
We
were
discussing
this
about
third
parties,
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
enter
into
like
a
tig
agreement
with
an
entity,
and
this
may
be
a
a
a
question,
a
lawyer
question
and
now
there's
a
third
party
with
whom
the
city
does
not
have
a
contract.
K
Yes,
council,
member
driggs,
I
have
an
answer
to
that
and
then
I'll
ask
anna
to
help
me
out
if
I've
missed
the
mark.
But
we
would
work
in
the
context
of
a
p3
scenario
like
a
tig
directly
with
the
developer
to
to
have
it
either
established
contractually
that
this
particular
requirement
would
be
applicable
to
any
housing
provider
in
the
tick
district,
whether
it
be
the
master
developer
or
a
component
developer,
and
that
that
would
be
handled
either
contractually
or
through
a
covenant
restriction.
K
Theoretically.
But
ultimately,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
there's
a
third
party
developer
in
a
tick
district,
that
third-party
developer
would
be
accountable
for
adhering
to
the
policy
that
third-party
developer
would
be
accountable
for
any
violations,
and
that
would
be
established
up
front
through
our
relationship
with
the
master
developer.
F
Okay,
and
so
that
third
party
then
becomes
obligated
to
us
and
exposed
to
our
eventual
enforcement
actions
as
a
result
of
the
contract
structure,
and
what
I'm
getting
at
here
is
that
that
third
party
is
not
immediately
a
party
to
a
contract
with
the
city
and
therefore
the
city's
ability
to
impose
penalties
on
them
is
questionable.
So
you're
saying
we
do
have
a
contract
structure
that
has
the
effect
of
having
them
accept
an
obligation
to
the
city
and
potential
enforcement
actions.
F
The
third
party
would
have
to
would
probably
participate
in
some
of
the
benefit
of
the
tig
and
thereby
have
consideration
for
submitting
to
those
requirements.
I'm
guessing
right.
So,
in
other
words,
the
master
developer
has
got
this
tax
break
and
now
enters
into
an
agreement
with
a
and
I'm
sorry
if
this
is
a
little
technical.
But
I'm
just
having
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
contract
negotiations
want
to
make
sure
that
we
achieve
our
purpose
here,
which
is
to
create
a
valid
claim
against
the
third
party,
and
so,
for
example.
F
I
I
I
don't
think
that's
where
this
this
new
approach,
that's
being
recommended
today,
would
go.
You
could
potentially
have
being
precluded
from
future
contracts,
but
it
wouldn't
be
a
termination
of
the
tig
itself.
With
respect
to
your
earlier
question,
you're
you're,
making
me
reach
back
more
than
20
years
into
contracts,
101.
I
I
That
developer
would
then
have
consideration
with
the
third
party,
and
so
it
would
simply
be
the
master
developer
saying
to
the
third
party
as
part
of
the
transaction
that
you
and
I
are
engaging
in,
and
the
consideration
that's
being
exchanged,
you're
agreeing
to
be
subject
to
the
city's
source
of
income
discrimination
policy
and
then,
whatever
other
indemnifications
or
terms
they
might
negotiate
between
the
two
of
them,
but
it
it's
simply.
The
city
says
to
the
master
developer.
At
the
time
we
enter
into
the
contract
as
a
condition
of
you
entering
into
this
contract.
F
F
Is
there
a
possibility
that
some
of
the
people
with
whom
we
might
want
to
enter
into
city
funding
agreements
are
going
to
be
troubled
by
this,
and
I
mean?
Could
their
lawyers,
for
example,
say
to
them?
You
know
this
is
this
is
tricky
and
you've
got
that
provision
in
there?
That
could
blow
the
whole
thing
up.
So
is
there
any
danger
that
we
actually
make
our
incentives
less
attractive
to
the
people
we
want
to
deal
with.
N
F
C
I
My
recollection
of
the
mayor's
charge
from
the
july
11th
meeting
was
simply
that
there
be
discussion
and
I'll
I'll
look
to
to
sean
to
clarify
that
if
need
be.
But
since
it's
a
meeting
of
the
great
neighborhoods
committee-
and
it
was
noticed
as
a
meeting
of
the
great
neighborhoods
committee,
I
think
only
the
great
neighborhoods
committee
should
take
action
because
it's
a
public
meeting.
So
okay.
G
Thank
you,
sean
and
your
team
for
this
this
policy.
When
I
look
at
this,
I
do
see
that
this
policy
has
teeth
and
we're
looking
at
outcomes.
So
this
is
a
very
important
policy
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
supporting
it.
I
I
have
a
question
about
the
contract
I
kind
of
want
to
piggyback
off
councilmember
driggs.
G
K
So
I
mean
tigs
are
maybe
the
best
example
because
they're
the
most
moving
parts,
but
what
this
contemplates
is
that
we're
assigning
that
risk
so
to
speak
to
the
component
developer.
If
there
is
a
third
party
developer,
doing
the
housing,
because
that's
the
entity
that
is
making
the
rental
eligibility
decisions
if
there's
discrimination,
that's
occurred.
It's
the
third
party
developer.
G
C
C
G
H
So
it's
it's
not
really
requirements
of
the
developer
per
se.
It's
really.
We
look
at
the
project
as
a
whole.
Typically,
when
we
are
entering
into
an
agree,
a
negotiation
with
a
developer,
it
is
about
achieving
something
with
the
project
that
has
a
larger
public
good
for
the
project.
So
it's
not
an
evaluation
of
you
know
the
developers
qualifications
it's
more
of
what
are
we
getting
in
the
project?
Typically
from
a
perspective
of
infrastructure
that
has
a
greater
impact
to
the
surrounding
community.
G
So,
in
my
experience,
these
have
been
these
large
projects
that
are
awarded
the
the
tig
or
the
city
subsidy,
the
the
the
projects
that
we're
talking
about.
If
that
master
developer
awards
or
allows
a
third
party
to
to
develop
them
the
multi-family-
I
don't
foresee-
and
I
could
be
wrong-
we,
but
I
don't
know
that
that
third-party
developer
is
going
to
be
the
one
applying
for
the
tig.
The
policy
would
seem
to
have
more
teeth
if
we're
holding
the
developer,
who
we
awarded
the
tig
to
responsible
for
their
subcontractors.
G
So
I
I
I
appreciate
the
the
teeth
and
the
the
intent,
but
practically
I
think
we
really
need
to
think
about
are
the
are
the
is
the
developer
who's
being
awarded
the
tig?
Are
they
going
to
be
held
responsible
for
the
third
party,
and
I
know
that
there's
some
question
about
that.
But
what
teeth
do
we
really
have?
If
it's
not
realistic
that
that
third
party
developer
is
ever
going
to
apply
for
a
tig?
G
H
It
varies,
I
think
we've
done
two
or
three
in
the
past
in
the
past
year,
but
let
me
I
want
to
clarify
something
for
you.
First
of
all,
the
master
developer.
When
we
do
a
tig,
the
master
developer
makes
an
upfront
investment.
So
if
we
for
the
example
of
atrium
atrium
is
not
in
wexford,
where
we
did
the
innovation
campus,
they
are
not
multi-family
developers,
so
we
they
propose
to
have
a
component
of
residential
in
their
projects.
G
I
thought
that
was
the
purpose
of
the
enforcement
is
to
use
a
tig
as
a
tool
to
discourage
this
type
of
practice
in
our
city
so
yeah
this
is.
We
just
want
to
ensure
that
the
the
the
master
developer
when
the
master
developer
subcontracts
subcontracts
right
any
of
their
any
of
the
plan
and
they
have
a
site
plan.
The
master
developer
is
responsible
for
the
outcome
of
the
development
right
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
site
plan.
G
So
why
are
we
dissecting
this?
That's
a
concern
for
me,
madam
chair
yeah.
That's
a
concern
for
me
that
we
are
holding
a
a
third-party
developer
responsible
who
may
never
come
to
the
city,
who
may
never
develop
a
project
long
and
large
enough
to
to
to
need
a
tig,
but
I
I
guess
the
financial
piece,
the
fact
that
they
will
be
the
ones
to
pay
the
the
financial
piece
up
to
23
000
and
up
to
57
000
is
enough
of
a
penalty
that
I
can
still
support.
C
Thank
you,
councilmember
johnson,
I
tend
to
agree
with
you
and
I
feel,
like
we
shouldn't
be
putting
things
in
place
that
all
of
us
know
we
can't
actually
enforce
later
on.
So
I'm
happy
to
as
we
go
into
this
motion,
I'm
happy
to
support
an
amendment
that
would
just
strike
that
or
send
it
back
for
review
to
actually
get
it
to
mean
something.
But
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee
I'll
entertain
a
motion
on
this
item.
Whatever
that
motion
may
be.
G
N
Yeah,
so
I
appreciate
the
question
I
I
will
say
that,
because
I
feel
like
mark
etheridge
is
probably
the
best
person
to
speak
to
to
this
because
he's
coming
from
a
a
developer's,
a
solely
developer's
perspective
on
it.
I
would
say
that
you
know
it
came
out
of
counsel
with
those
questions
around
who
all
who's
going
to
be
responsible
right.
Is
it
the
master
developer?
N
Do
we
need
to
tie
into
third-party
developer,
and
I
will
honestly
say
that
it's
hard
to
know
whether
or
not
it's
really
going
to
be
a
thing
until
you
see
it
in
action
right
until
you
see
it
in
practice
and
see
if
it
cuts
muster,
it's
really
hard.
We
can
do
things
and
implement
things
in
in
practice
or
in
theory,
and
then,
when
they
get
into
practice,
they
might
not
be
applicable,
and
so
I
would
tell
you
that
I
could
go
either
way
on
that
one.
I
would
say
that
this
is
not.
N
I
mean
I
would
like
to
believe
that
this
is
not
a
a
set
in
stone
document,
right
that
it's
a
living
breathing
document
that
if
it
needs
to
be
enhanced
because
the
city
or
council
or
staff
feels
as
if
it
doesn't
have
enough
teeth,
then
we
come
back
to
it
later
on
and
we
tweak
it
because
it
may
need
to
be
tweaked
right.
Development
evolves
and
development
will
continue
to
evolve,
and
so
it
may
need
to
be
tweaked
five
or
ten
years.
From
now.
O
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
for
us,
but
as
we
talked
about
it,
I
think
the
major
thing
for
and
when
we're
talking
with
mark
edwards
as
well,
is
the
fact
that
it
isn't
enforceable
and
are
we
protecting
the
families
themselves
that
are
being
damaged
right,
and
so
yes,
I
would
say
this
policy
the
way
it's
written
and
then
my
understanding
of
the
contract
would
be.
The
contract
is
between
the
city
and
the
actual
massive
developer.
But
these
protections
would
go
from
the
master
developer
to
any
component
developer,
so
the
protections
would
carry
through.
O
They
wouldn't
just
stop
the
massive
developer
that
would
carry
through
to
all
the
other
component
developers,
specifically
the
multi-family
developer,
so
the
protections
will
be
there
and
that
that
component
developer
will
be
100
responsible
for
any
of
these
enforcement
methods
that
we
have
here.
That
that
component
developer
will
be
responsible
for
that
in
the
scenarios
that
you've
that
shawn
just
laid
out,
so
the
they'll
have
30
days
to
remedy
the
situation.
They'll
have
the
hundred
dollars
a
day
to
the
actual
applicant
that
was
damaged.
O
O
It
protects
the
city
from
the
standpoint
of
making
sure
that
what
they
wanted
is,
as
is
making
sure
that
families,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
have
this
opportunity
to
live
in
these
particular
apartments,
and
they
don't.
There
are
remedies
to
solve
that.
I
think
it
still
protects
that
within
what's
written
today,.
B
C
G
G
Okay
and
then
my
last
question
is
how
are
we
educating
the
public
one
of
the
concerns?
I
remember
the
data
provided
from
our
crc
department
that
they
only
had
a
handful
of
complaints
in
the
last
40
years,
whereas
we
get
complaints
almost
daily
on
this
issue.
So
how
are
we
educating
the
public
on
that
that,
first
of
all,
they
should
report
to
crc
because
the
public
doesn't
know
who's
received
the
tig
or
city
financing
or
subsidy.
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
should
have
mentioned
that
directly
earlier
because,
while
there's
a
lot
that
we'll
do
with
the
housing
providers
on
the
education
front,
we
would
for
a
development
that
would
be
applicable
to
the
policy
work
with
willie
ratchford's
team,
our
community
engagement,
folks
and
communications
folks
in
order
to
have
kind
of
a
full
port
full
court
press
to
get
the
word
out.
So
individuals
are
aware:
yeah.
B
K
B
C
I
think
it
just
leaves
myself
and
I'll
just
say
that
I
appreciate
the
work
that's
been
done
by
the
ad
hoc
committee,
dr
harlow,
and
miss
graham
as
well
as
others.
It
is
a
step.
Certainly.
I
think
that
we
could
go
further
but
recognize
that
we
will
accept
incremental
progress
on
this
one
and
continue
to
move
forward
so
with
that
it
passes
unanimously,
and
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
item.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you've
done
for
the
better
economic
development
committee.
B
C
E
J
Thank
you
a
a
great
reason
to
interrupt
so
we
have
with
us
today,
justin
harlow
and
kim
graham,
who
are
co-chairs
of
the
nest
commission,
and
this
update
is
really
for
them
to
share
their
initial
work
plan
with
great
neighborhoods
committee.
I've
just
a
few
slides,
I'm
going
to
run
through
to
frame
up
the
conversation
and
provide
some
context
about
how
the
nest
commission's
work
plan
fits
into
our
overall
overall
approach.
J
J
And
it
is
a
developing
anti-displacement
tools
are
a
component
piece
of
the
comprehensive
plan
implementation
strategy.
So
you
can
see
that
one
there
in
yellow.
That's
what
we're
talking
about
today
and
all
the
other
parts
and
pieces
that
go
into
the
information
implementation
strategy,
including
the
sister
commission
of
nest
under
cip,
which
is
the
economic.
J
Equitable
development
commission
excuse
me
next
slide
and
then
implementation
as
it
relates
to
anti-displacement
strategy.
What
was
adopted
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
was
to
commission
an
anti-displacement
stakeholder
group,
so
that
was
completed.
That
is
now
the
nest
commission
launch
an
anti-displacement
study
and
recommend
tools
and
strategies,
so
that
is
part
of
what
the
nest
commission
is
charged
with
and
the
other
pieces
around
studying
anti-displacement
are
ongoing
and
then
the
last
component
establish
a
displacement
dashboard
to
track
and
update
equity.
Metrics
has
also
been
completed.
J
So
you
have
been
hearing
from
staff
in
great
neighborhoods
committee
over
the
past
year
about
a
lot
of
different
parts
and
pieces
of
our
anti-displacement
approach.
So
we
wanted
to
just
put
a
picture
in
front
of
you
of
how
that
is
all
supposed
to
fit
together.
So
in
in
general,
we
are
working
to
leverage
data
and
technology
in
new
and
better
ways.
J
The
displacement
risk
dashboard
is
a
part
of
that.
The
work
that
we
brought
to
you
in
our
in
your
last
com
mini
meeting
around
looking
at
displacement
risk
by
sight
and
providing
monitoring
and
rapid
response
and
automated
notifications
and
communications.
All
of
that
is
a
part
of
our
broader
anti-displacement
approach.
In
addition,
I'm
excited
to
share
that.
We
just
got
the
draft
of
the
land
acquisition
analysis
from
our
I.t
data
team
that
we
are
looking
at
as
part
of
the
housing
trust
fund
tune-up.
J
On
the
right
hand,
side,
we
have
a
lot
of
programs
and
initiatives
that
we
don't
always
talk
about
as
anti-displacement,
but
that
have
that
as
part
of
their
goal.
So
a
lot
of
our
affordable
housing
work
is
already
an
anti-displacement
strategy,
as
well
as
the
rent
and
utility
assistance
that
the
city
has
been
providing
through
ramp
clt
over
the
last
several
years
and
some
of
our
jobs
and
workforce
development.
J
J
P
All
right,
thanks
rebecca,
I
appreciate
the
time
I'll
give
kim
a
little
break
here.
I
know
she's
been
in
front
of
you
all
often,
and
so
we'll
give
her
a
little
a
little
break
first
off
thanks
for
the
opportunity
happy
to,
and
thank
you
for
the
appointment
to
this
commission
and
happy
to
serve
as
coach,
co-chair
and
present
today
to
the
council,
members
that
are
present
and
to
the
committee.
The
nest
commission
is
kind
of
broken
into
kind
of
three
buckets.
P
We've
been
meeting
for
about
five
six
months
now
and
the
15
member
commission
has
split
up
into
what
we're
calling
work
streams.
These
are
the
three
work
streams
here:
lay
of
the
land
program,
improvements
and
policy
gaps
and
then
also
third,
work
stream,
understanding
the
impacts
of
of
the
udo.
So
with
that,
we
can
we
want
to.
We
had
meetings
where
the
commission
members
have
self-selected
really
into
these
work
groups
to
say,
hey,
what's
something
that
as
a
commission
member,
you
really
want
to
help
focus
on
based
on
the
area
of
expertise.
P
Our
15
members
have
a
variety
of
expertise:
around
housing
around
supportive
services.
There
are
a
few
developers
on
prior
elected
official
here,
so
a
lot
of
different
things,
a
lot
of
different
avenues
and
areas
of
of
expertise
that
have
made
the
commission
what
it
is
so
far
we're
meeting
every
other
month
as
a
full
commission.
And
then
in
the
off
months.
The
the
work
groups
are
actually
meeting
and
bringing.
B
P
So
this
lay
of
the
land
really
is
an
opportunity
as
a
work
group,
that's
really
looking
at
opportunities
around
land
acquisition
and
home
ownership.
So
much
of
our
housing
goals
in
the
city
from
trust
funds
to
other
things
in
in
the
h
s
department
has
always
been
somewhat
focused
on
rentals
and
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
from
you
all
that
that
you
want
more
focus
around
home
ownership.
How
can
people
participate
in
the
wealth
building
process?
P
What
are
some
things
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
from,
as
it
relates
to
corporate
landlordship
and
things
like
that?
That's
boxing
people,
out
of
the
home
ownership
process,
sort
of
some
policy
that
maybe
can
be
put
into
place
there.
So
a
lot
of
topics
and
future
recommendations
are
going
to
derive
into
a
land
acquisition
strategy,
more
deeper
conversations
around
community
land,
trust
models
and
home
ownership
models.
P
A
P
P
Things
are
going
to
be
really
within
something
that
we
can
try
to
target
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
particularly
as,
as
you
all
enter
into
a
new
council
coming
on
board
new
budget
cycle
kind
of
starting
and
some
budget
conversations
going
to
be
happening
in
the
in
the
winter
and
the
early
part
of
the
spring.
And
so
those
are
those
short-term
things,
those
medium-term
more
two
year,
one
to
two
years
out
and
then
long
term
kind
of
in
a
three
year
timeline.
P
So
the
biggest
short
term
things
as
you'll
see
here
is
home
ownership
and
that's
just
you
know
whole
scale
evaluating
the
existing
home
ownership
policies
that
exist.
Looking
at
what
other
municipalities
are
doing,
to
help
increase
the
the
amount
of
people
that
can
participate
in
the
home
ownership
process
and
then
also
evaluating
internally,
some
of
the
permitting
things
that
maybe
impact,
affordable,
housing
or
or
create
barriers
to
people.
You
know
getting
getting
into
home
ownership
opportunities
faster
and
then,
of
course,
I
mentioned
earlier
institutional
investors.
P
P
So
looking
at
provisions
that
can
either
help
hoas
or
also
what
it,
what
could
be
done
around
deed
restriction
and
things
to
you
know
not
try
to
tip
the
scales
in
the
market
so
much,
but
but
also
still
allow
for
an
opportunity
where,
where
government
can
play
a
role
to
help
its
constituents
in
in
home
ownership
opportunities.
So
those
are
kind
of
two
short-term
things
that
we'll
be
tackling
here,
really
through
the
fall
and
through
the
winter
and
then
longer
term.
P
Looking
at
land
acquisition,
small
business
opportunities
as
well
on
you
know:
property
ownership
for
small
businesses
beyond
just
renting
and
business
displacement.
I
know
often
we're
talking
about
individual
families,
but
the
you
know
jobs
get
lost
also
when
businesses
shut
down
because
of
loss
of
land-
or
you
know,
increased
rents
and
things
like
that,
but
then
of
course,
land.
Of
course,
land
acquisition.
I
know
councils
in
the
past
have
talked
about
land
trust
models
and
and
city
participating.
P
A
little
bit
more
in
the
city
city-owned
land
and
what
can
be
done
to
to
capture
some.
You
know
some
better
practices
around
that,
particularly
for
lower
income,
the
lower
ami
scale
households.
So
this
is
the
lay
of
the
land
work
plan.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
kind
of
be
working
through.
I
imagine
we'll
be
invited
back
to
continue
giving
updates
to
this
work
plan
and
we
look
forward
to
it
thanks
a
lot
awesome,
so
that
was
the
lay
of
the
land.
P
P
Inventory
of
what
do
we
already
do?
What
are
some
things
we've
done
like
previous
pilots
and
things
like
that?
How
effective
were
they?
What
are
ones?
We
need
to
throw
out
what
are
the
ones
that
we
need
to
re-envision
and
what
are
some
things
that
other
places
may
be
doing
that
we're
not
that
might
be
beneficial
for
for
charlotte
residents,
so
it's
full
scoped
on
just
program
improvements
and
policy
changes.
This
work
group
is
really
we're.
Gonna
bring
in
a
variety
of
housing
experts.
P
What
that
might
mean
for
increase
of
property
tax
based
on
what
what
you
know
the
county
and
and
the
city
council
decide
to
do
with
tax
rates.
But
we
see
that
as
kind
of
the
first
step
that
we'll
be
moving
with
for
some
possible
future
recommendations
for
the
upcoming
budget
cycle
of
maybe
some
things
that
you'll
hear
from
us
back
in
maybe
the
early
part
of
2023
for
the
fy24
cycle.
B
P
Renaissance,
rent
assistance
exploring
direct
rent
assistance
programs,
you
know
we,
we
have
the
trust
fund,
of
course,
and
that's
a
developer
kind
of
assistance
program
to
help
them
help
developers
get
tax
credits
to
provide
affordable
housing,
but
we
know
with
inflation-
and
we
know
what's
happening
with
with
just
traditional,
rising
grants
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
avenues
for
tenants.
You
know
the
landlords.
P
Relative
free
will
to
do
what
they
choose
as
it
relates
to
how
much
they
charge
based
on
what
the
market
is
allowing.
But
what
can
we
be
doing
if
we
know
that
people
are,
you
know,
being
boxed
out
of
the
home
ownership
space
a
little
bit,
even
though
we're
going
to
tackle
that
with
some
of
these
institutional
investors?
P
What
are
some
things
that
can
be
done
directly
as
well
with
direct
rent
assistance
programs
from
you
know,
from
from
the
city
that
kind
of
some
other
mid
medium
term
short
term
stuff,
small
landlord
assistance.
So
this
is
really
not
talking
about
the
big
developers
who
build
massive
apartment
complexes
and
things,
but
the
private
landlord
who,
just
you
know,
owns
a
home.
Maybe
they
inherited
it
and
they
rent
it
out.
P
Qualify
for
some
of
the
other
programs
that
exist
on
in
in
the
city's
tool
bank,
but
to
incentivize
private,
individual
small
families
to
keep
rents
affordable
in
in
homes
that
they
are
not
actually
living
in
themselves.
So
you
know,
grandma
leaves
the
house
to
someone,
they
keep
it,
they
rent
it.
The
grandson
is
renting
it
blah
blah
blah.
You
know,
how
can
we
be
helping
them,
whether
it's
you
know,
rehabbing.
J
P
Homes
or
or
keeping
keeping
pace
with
development,
so
there's
not
displacement
there,
even
from
a
rental,
so
so
tenants
can
stay
in
there
in
an
affordable,
affordable
space,
transit
oriented
development
is
more
about.
We
know
the
tod
districts.
Are
we
already
know
where
you
all
have
taken
the
direction
around?
How
do
we
create
more
density
around
around
transit
lines
and
high
employment
centers,
but
we
also
know
there's
a
displacement
impact
to
that.
So
what
could
be
done?
P
Maybe
around
you,
know,
value
capture
of
future
developments
as
we
talk
about
the
silver
line
and
then
other
blue
line
extensions
or
things
like
that
red
line,
whatever
transit
lines
that
that
may
exist
in
the
future.
You
know
how
to
capture
that
future
value
in
the
development
that
can
later
be
used
for
rent
assistance,
programs
or
or
anti-displacement
initiatives.
We
know
john
lewis
has
talked
about
this
before
and
and
maybe
some
missed
opportunities
that
happened
with
the
blue
line.
P
So
what
maybe
could
be
done
differently
as
as
planning
and
future
things
for
the
silver
line
come
into
play,
then
the
last
step
is
inclusionary
zoning.
We
know
that's
a
thing.
You
kind
of
have
to
tiptoe
around
a
little
bit,
but
really
digging
a
little
deeper
into
what
existing
towns
are
already
doing.
We
know
that
davidson
and
chapel
hill
kind
of
have
these.
You
know
special
legislation
for
their
towns,
they're
college
towns,
so
it's
a
little
different.
But
what
could
the
city
do
possibly
exploring?
P
You
know
those
types
of
provisions
that
the
town
of
davidson
and
chapel
hill
have
that
actually
have
inclusion,
arizona
in
this
state
and-
and
you
know
we-
we
had
some
commission
members
talking
about
eminent
domain
and
anti-trust
thing-
sherman
act
anti-trusting.
How
could
we
maybe
get
legally
creative
a
little
bit
as
this
problem
continues
to
become
more
dire?
P
You
know
how
do
we
get
creative
legally
and
push
that
envelope
a
little
bit
to
say
hey,
you
know
this
is
becoming
a
monopoly
type
of
thing
here.
How
could
we
be
pushing
back
to
help
our
residents?
So
those
are
our
five
in
the
program.
Improvements
in
policy
gap
work
plans.
I
think
the
next
slide
moves
us
to
the
the
udo
impacts
I'll.
Let
kim
take
that
one.
N
N
N
We,
we
hope
to
look
at
topics
impact
the
impacts
of
short-term
rentals
on
the
overall
rental
market.
We
know
that
that's
come
up
and
that's
something
that's
in
the
the
ueo,
and
that
has
been
a
source
of
pain
for
this
community,
whether
it's
airbnb
or
verbo,
or
something
else,
and
so
you
know
we
want
to
begin
to
understand
and
explore
those
topics,
better
opportunities
for
accessory
dwelling
units
or
adus,
and
in
particular
we
want
to
look
at
how
adus
can
increase
the
the
more
immediate
availability
of
affordable
housing.
N
N
We
always
talk
about
atlanta,
we
think
about
areas
in
virginia
south
carolina
tennessee,
so
we
didn't
see
any
of
that.
But
what
we
understand
is
that
there
have
been
some
newer
programs
that
have
been
propped
up
in
raleigh
as
close
to
us
as
that.
So
we
want
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit
more
and
get
a
better
understanding
of
how
charlotte
could
benefit
from
those
types
of
programs,
and
then,
lastly,
we
we're
going
to
unpack
the
udo,
I
would
say
in
terms
of
looking
at
areas
of
opportunity
for
individual
homeowners,
small
businesses.
N
Our
work
stream
is
talked
about.
The
fact
that
you
know
we
used
to
do
charrettes
in
charlotte.
We
used
to
really
look
practically
at
what
a
policy
might
do
to
a
particular
area
or
neighborhood
service
area,
and
so
we're
talking
about
how
we
can
do
something
like
that.
To
begin
helping,
you
know
the
average
homeowner
householder
to
understand
what
the
udo
looks
like
and
how
it
would
apply
to
them
and
what
cost,
what
the
cost
impact
would
be.
N
N
And
so
we
we
too
have
broken
our
tasks
down
into
priorities
and
short
medium
and
long-term
goals,
we're
looking
at
adus
or
accessory
dwelling
units.
First,
we've
already
kicked
that
off,
and
so
you
know,
we
hope
to
kind
of
round
that
out
by
december,
looking
at
the
research
from
other
jurisdictions,
as
I
mentioned,
better
understanding,
any
incentives
that
have
been
created
by
other
municipalities
that
are
easily
replicable
here
in
charlotte,
and
then
we
will
be
turning
our
attention
to
transit,
oriented
development
or
tod
development.
N
We
want
to
really
understand
the
impact
of
tod
policies
on
on
land
values.
We
talked
about
just
set
asides
for
affordable
housing
around.
You
know,
tod
lines
which
you
know
justin's
work
stream
will
also
look
at
as
well.
It's
our
understanding
that
cats
has
a
study
that
they've
undertaken,
and
so
we
want
to.
N
So,
just
to
understand
you
know
if,
if
or
how
the
udo
provides
for
increased
density
options,
what
the
overlay
impacts
will
be
of
the
udo,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
a
july
to
december
2023,
time
frame,
short-term,
rentals
and-
and
we
also
lifted
up
while
it's
not
on
here.
We
began
talking
about
just
tiny
houses,
right,
tiny
villages,
and
we
know
that.
That's
something
that
you
know.
City
council
has
tried
to
grapple
with
some
in
the
past.
But
what
does
that
look
like?
N
Could
we
create
areas
where
tiny
villages
could
be
built
for
for
veterans
right
for
people
with
bash
vouchers
or
folks,
with
supportive
housing
vouchers
and
what
that
might
look
like,
but
short-term,
rentals
understanding,
other
policy
areas
around
short-term
rentals,
because
we
know
that
that's
not
something
that
we
have
here
locally
multi-family
owners
they
can
create
whatever
policies
they
want
to
create
right
now,
around
short-term
rentals.
Do
they
become
pain,
points
for
neighborhoods?
Do
they
become
pain,
points
for
primarily
ownership
neighborhoods?
N
Do
they
become
pain,
points
for
renter
communities,
so
we're
looking
at
a
december
2023
time
horizon
for
that
and
then
lastly,
inclusionary
zoning
and
just
what
does
the
community
feel
like
around
that
we're
going
to
really
hear
from
stakeholders
here
locally,
but
also
other
jurisdictions
around
inclusionary
zoning?
We
understand
that
in
north
carolina
we
have,
you
know
the
rules
that
govern
that
and
whether
or
not
we
can
have
inclusion,
arizona
and
mandate,
affordable
housing.
But
what
does
that
really
look
like?
And
why
is
there
pain
around
that
particular
policy?
N
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
the
commission
on
all
the
all
of
their
hard
work.
I
want
to
thank
you,
mr
harlow,
mrs
graham,
for
your
hard
work
as
well.
My
question
is
pertaining
to
infrastructure
needs
within
majority
minority
communities
throughout
our
city.
I
really
appreciate
the
focus
of
the
the
committee
within
the
work
streams
or
I'm
sorry,
the
commission,
within
the
work
streams
on
housing,
one
work
stream.
I
think
you
mentioned
this.
E
J
What
what's
needed
and
that
commission
has
taken
a
fairly
broad
look
at
not
just
what
we're
doing,
but
where
we're,
where
we're
headed,
similar
to
what
the
nest
commission
has
done,
and
so
the
nest
commission
will
not
focus
in
specifically
on
that
question.
That'll
be
more
of
a
equitable
development
commission
question,
but
you
raise
an
a
great
point
around.
How
are
we
ensuring
that
there's
alignment
and
discussion
between
those
various
commissions?
J
E
Absolutely
with
the
the
tod
districts
and
our
reasoning
behind
those
yeah,
I
didn't
want
to
lose
sight
of
the
the
lack
of
that
sort
of
essential
amenities
and
infrastructure
elsewhere,
particularly
given
the
increased
by
right
development
that
I
know
we're
going
to
to
see
in
the
near
future,
and
I
did
want
to
just
once
again
thank
the
commission
for
all
of
their
hard
work.
You're
doing
really
important
work
and
it's
very
much
appreciated.
C
C
There's
a
general
awareness
of
those,
but
what
specifically
we
can
do
here
in
charlotte
would
love
to
see
a
a
real
root
cause
analysis
specific
to
the
neighborhoods
that
have
been
highlighted
in
our
anti-displacement
dashboard,
absolutely
want
to
see
the
benchmarking
from
other
cities.
I
think,
as
I
said
before,
there's
a
good
bit
of
that
that
already
exists.
But
what
is
it
specific
to
our
neighborhoods
that
is
going
on?
C
To
that
end,
I've
offered,
as
many
of
you
know,
an
amendment
to
our
udo
or
an
amendment
to
our
projected
approval
of
the
udl
to
fold
density.
The
density
component
of
the
udo
to
after
we've
adopted
an
anti-displacement
strategy,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
our
work,
particularly
out
of
this
committee,
be
very,
very
focused
on
items
that
are
going
to
be
mitigation
strategies
specific
to
the
udl.
C
I
know
we're
doing
a
lot
around
incentives
and
how
we
help
the
landlords
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
certainly
that
has
a
component,
but
we
also
know
that
ownership
is
the
the
biggest
defense
against
displacement,
and
so
I
want
to
see
that
reflected
in
our
work.
When
I
think
about
timing,
there's
a
quite
a
bit
of
things
that
I
saw
that
we've
been
discussing
for
a
while
I'd
be
interested
to
see
what's
ready.
Now,
what
can
we
deploy
on
a
rolling
basis?
C
Because
there
are
some
things
that
are
go?
Do
items
right
when
we
talk
about
increasing
our
down
payment
assistance,
we've
been
talking
about
that
forever.
Let's,
let's
just
do
it
right,
so
I
don't
want
us
to
feel
like
we
have
to
hold
the
entire
suite
of
possibilities
for
one
moment
when
there
are
things
that
we
can
be
doing
now,
because
certainly
time
is
of
the
essence.
When
I
look
at
the
on
slide
10,
there
was
a
note
about
kind
of
benchmarking,
and
this
is
just
a
comment.
C
In
general,
we
have
a
wealth
of
information.
I
know
that
staff
has
already
looked
at,
so
let's
be
sure
that
we're
leveraging
that
when
we
talk
about
item
1b
here,
look
at
what
other
states
and
municipalities
are
doing.
That
feels
like
something
that
can
they
can
be
done
relatively
quickly.
Certainly,
we
know
that
we're
working
with
volunteers,
but
I
have
to
believe
that
there
is
a
treasure
trove
of
information
that
staff
has
been
reviewing
to
date.
C
I'll
leave
comments
for
there,
but
certainly
there
is
a
good
bit
of
work
outlined
here
and
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
do
this
work.
It
is
a
heavy
lift
and,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
be
of
assistance.
Let's
do
this,
let's
be
bullish
about
it,
because
we
know
that
things
are
not
slowing
down
so
to
so
as
fast
as
we
can
get
quality,
programming
and
policies
out
the
door.
Let's
do
that.
C
We
have
the
ability
we're
sitting
in
the
seats-
and
I
say
this
to
my
colleagues-
we
are
sitting
in
the
seats
to
get
this
done.
So,
let's
not
wait
on
it,
particularly
as
we
are
making
decisions
for
the
city
that
we
know
has
huge
impacts
to
our
current
and
our
most
vulnerable
residents.
With
that,
I
believe
I've
got.
Let
me
make
sure
I
don't
have
any
other
committee
members
that
have
comments.
Miss
johnson-
I
don't
see
you
here.
Do
you
have
a
comment?
If
not
I'll
move
to
mr
wilson.
D
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chairman,
and
I
also
want
to
go
on
records,
thanking
the
co-chairpersons,
arnold
and
graham
for
for
the
extraordinary
work
I
want.
If
staff
can
send
me
a
handout
of
all
the
a
copy
of
all
the
handouts,
I
think
is
really
good.
Information
is
consolidated
in
one
place.
I
would
like
to
keep
it
as
a
resource.
D
Secondly,
I
do
agree
with
the
chairman
low-hanging
fruits
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
some
of
these
initiatives
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while.
Let's
move
forward,
others
will
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
bake,
but
certainly
a
lot
of
people
are
are
watching
the
work,
the
outcomes
of
both
committees,
as
those
would
be
factors
for
decision
making
in
the
near
future.
D
So
no
pressure
on
kim
and
justin,
but
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
are
really
good
resource
work
for
the
council
that
at
least
I
will
be
drawing
from
so
please
think,
broad
and
out
of
the
box
resources
anything
that
you
think
we
need
to
do
differently
or
to
strengthen
based
on
the
tasks
at
hand.
I'm
very
very
much
interested
in.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
councilman
councilwoman
wadlington.
I
just
want.
I
agree.
I
think
this
is
a
great
presentation
and
I
agree
with
the
attacking
the
low-hanging
fruit
I
would
like
from
our
legal
department,
if
that's
okay,
information
about
inclusionary
zoning,
because
we've
almost
been
guided,
that
this
is
illegal
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
and
if
there
are
two
cities
that
are
doing
that.
When
mr
harlow
said
college
towns,
I
mean
we're
one
of
the
biggest
college
towns,
I
would
say,
is
the
university
representative.
G
So
if
that's
a
caveat
to
to
to
implementing
inclusionary
zoning,
then
then
I
I
certainly
think
that
we
are
more
than
eligible.
So
I
would
like
from
the
legal
department
what
the
what
the
true
legality
of
inclusionary
zoning
is.
If
you
can
send
that
to
the
chairs
and
maybe
to
council,
that
would
be
great
if
there
are
indeed
cities
that
are
doing
that.
G
Also,
when
we
talk
about
the
incentives
for
the
developers,
if
you
all
can
research
the
the
feasibility
of
waiving
fees
for
the
developers,
what
can
the
city
do
what's
in
the
city's
purview,
so
I've
heard
from
many
developers
that
the
water
fees
are
very
expensive,
permitting
fees?
Is
that
an
area
where
the
city
could
have
a
direct
impact
in
increasing
the
affordability
of
housing
in
the
city?
G
So
if
that's
something
that
you
that
the
group
can
take
a
look
at
since
these
are
great
and
innovative
and
out
of
the
box
solutions,
if
you
could
take
a
look
at
that,
I
don't
know
if
that's
been
done
with
previous
council,
but
I
would
like
to
see
that,
if
that's
an
area
that
we
could
have
direct
impact
impact
along
with
some
background
and
information
on
inclusionary
zoning,
the
the
legality
of
that,
if
we
can
get
that
from
the
legal
department.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you,
I
think,
to
miss
johnson's
question.
I
think.
Maybe
during
my
first
term
I
think
legal
did
provide
a
pretty
in-depth
memo
on
inclusionary
zoning
and
what
is
and
isn't
protected,
or
maybe
that's
you
know-
can
be
re-upped
yeah.
So
my
question
is
for
my
friend
dr
harlow
and
miss
graham
and
I
happy
belated
birthday,
dr
hollow
I'm
trying
to
be
a
better
friend
and
not
just
see
you
at
committee
meetings
and
emergency
dentist
visits.
Q
Yeah,
so
I
appreciate
the
work
as
as
my
colleagues
have
have
said,
I'm
also
grateful
for
the
timelines
that
you
put
on
here.
I
wasn't
expecting
that,
but
I
think
it's
very
helpful
considering
all
of
the
kind
of
balls
we
have
up
in
the
air
around
development,
around
anti-displacement
and
just
in
general
growth.
Q
Q
Do
you
feel
that
your
work
is
being
supported?
Do
you
feel
that
your
work
is
being
taken
seriously
by
staff
and
and
council
members?
Is
there
any
concern
that
you
have
that
you
know
for
lack
of
a
better
term?
The
focus
on
your
work
might
be
front
loaded
as
opposed
to
giving
you
know,
as
as
opposed
to
giving
the
attention
that
is
needed
by
us
as
policy
makers
over
the
entirety
of
the
life
of
the
commission.
Q
P
I
know
there
was
a
time
when
I
used
to
feel
that
all
these
city,
appointed
commissions
and
and
committees
were
were
not
being
utilized
as
best
that
they
could
I'd
say
for
this
one,
it's
a
total
180.
For
me,
I
mean
my
thought
process
on,
not
just
because
I
sit
on
it,
but
also
because
being
in
it
for
these
past
few
months
and
having
that
level
of
access
to
to
gail
and
rebecca
and
sean,
just
as
a
private
citizen
is
frankly,
I
think
a
little
unprecedented.
So
I'm
we're.
P
P
You
know
different
calls,
get
get
another
city
staff
member
on
to
come,
give
some
advice,
some
of
that
all
of
those
things
have
happened
and-
and
so
ms
williamson's
point,
if
I
may,
on
madam
chair
you're
right-
we've
had
some
concerns
in
the
commission
already
early
on
around
you
know:
hey
this
is
three
years:
let's
not
drag
this
thing
along
the
way
we
know.
Sometimes
things
can
and
just
get
information,
get
information,
get
information
and
then
you
know
have
one
or
two
small
outcomes
at
the
end.
P
We
want
this
thing
to
be
heavy
outcomes
based
so
much
in
fact
that
every
budget
cycle
council
member,
whoever
is
sitting
on
that
council-
is
talking
about
budget
allocations
for
specific
stuff
or
modifying
things
in
a
way
in
a
true
plan,
now
not
a
plan,
that's
going
to
on
a
shelf
somewhere,
but
a
true
plan.
That's
that's
trackable,
mr
winston.
While
we
have
the
time
frames
here
to
say,
here's
what
we
said
we're
going
to
do
here
are
some
of
the
outcomes
we're
looking
for
and
here's
some
budget
allocations
attached
to
it.
P
That's
what
success
looks
like
for
this
commission.
We've
got
some
very
passionate
commission
members
who
mentioned
the
same
thing:
we're
not
gonna,
wait
until
2025
to
just
lay
it
all
in
front
of
of
a
committee
or
lay
it
all
in
front
of
council.
This
will
be
ongoing
and,
and
some
of
it
will
be
some
things-
that's
gonna,
you
know
challenge
you
to
push
an
envelope
a
little
bit
and
I
feel
personally
as
a
co-chair,
but
also
someone
who
sat
there
at
that
table
with
you
all
that.
P
C
Thank
you,
dr
harlow.
I
say
this
with
all
sincerity.
I
expect
great
things
from
you
to
that
end.
You
mentioned
the
timeline.
I
would
love
to
see
this
reworked
and
the
reason
I
asked
this
is
because,
as
you
know,
we've
got
a
udl
decision
looming.
I'd
love
to
see
this.
We
reworked
for
each
work
stream.
C
P
O
B
B
J
J
How
are
those
households
moving
from
neighborhood
to
neighborhood
in
charlotte
we're
looking
at
public
data
on
voting
voter
registration
to
understand
how
people
are
moving
around
between
neighborhoods
and
then
the
next
step
would
be
to
really
try
to
understand
from
those
households
who
are
moving.
What
are
some
of
the
drivers
behind
that?
So
it
is
not
a
simple
question
to
answer:
there's
a
whole
national
practice
of
analyzing
displacement,
risk
and
understanding
displacement,
and
this
this
whole
process
would
be
a
lot
easier
if
we
did
have
a
simple
answer
to
that
question.
L
Wow,
okay!
Well,
I
guess
basically
you're
saying
that
it's
a
real
hard
question
to
answer,
but
it
seems
like
it's
really
easy
to
offer
up
anecdotal
examples
and
evidence
of
of
these
events.
That's
taking
place.
So
that's
what
that's
what
I
want
to.
I
look
forward
to
us
being
able
to
more
clearly
identify
the
causes
and
the
impact
of
such
displacement
in
individual
communities
in
charlotte.
So
I
look
forward
to
it.
Whenever
it
comes,
you
know
I
give
you
my
email
address
too.
P
G
Madam
chair,
can
I
piggyback
off
that
question
for
rebecca
just
just
some
suggestions:
have
you
possibly
can?
Can
we
take
a
look
at
the
eviction
records?
The
eviction
filings,
the
individuals
who
are
in
the
hotels
and
the
motels
and
the
shelters
as
well,
because,
sadly
I
mean-
and
this
might
be
anecdotal,
but
it's
it's
true-
it's
true
and
from
listening
to
the
community,
that's
where,
where
people
are
they're
being
evicted,
they're
in
the
homeless
shelters
they
were
in
tent
city.