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From YouTube: City Council Sub Committee 3-29-21
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City of Chelsea, via WebEx
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B
You
have
a
quorum
and
council
recuperate
sovereignty
and
counseling.
I
had
you
checked
off,
but
not
called
the
call
of
the
meeting.
The
following
subject
matter
will
be
discussed:
discuss
an
increasingly
emerging
issue
of
crash
on
sidewalks
streets,
public
and
private
properties
throughout
the
city
officials
invited
to
attend
the
subcommittee
meeting
city
manager,
tom
ambrosino.
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B
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C
C
Among
the
members
of
the
city
council
among
members
of
the
community
among
the
members
of
the
different
groups
that
are
involved,
and
it
just
seems
like
there
is
so
much
work
being
done
and
that
that
if
we
could
bring
it
to
the
next
level
to
try
to
address
the
issues
that
are
concerning
to
me
and
to
a
lot
of
certainly
my
constituents
and
other
community
members.
When
I
walk
the
streets
of
chelsea,
which
I
do
fairly
often.
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C
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That
refuse
is
coming
from
a
lot
of
different
places
and
there
are
different
reasons
for
it,
and
so
what
I
was
hoping
is
that
by
being
bringing
together
different
members
of
the
community
and
dpw
isd
that
we
could
look
at
what
we
can
do
to
sort
of
ramp
things
up
and
bring
it
to
the
next
level
to
address
it
in
a
way
that
feels
like
it's,
a
more
cohesive
and
a
more
holistic
approach,
because,
as
I
said
before,
the
beautification
committee
gets
a
lot
done
in
it
every
month.
There
are
issues
that
are
addressed.
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So
as
far
as
problem
areas,
this
is
a
short
list.
There
are
there
are
more
than
this,
but
this
is
just
an
example.
There
are
various
sections
on
broadway
downtown
which
has
a
lot
of
foot
traffic.
It
has
a
lot
of
vehicular
traffic
side
streets
where
there
are
apartments,
you
have
people
who
are
pulling
up
hanging
out
and
throwing
their
garbage
out
the
window
and
then
moving
on
parking
lots
are
are
a
big,
a
big
area
of
concern.
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I
just
parked
my
car
in
the
chestnut
street
lot
just
now,
and
I
noticed
that
there
was.
It
happens
often
that
the
whole
lot
is
sort
of
collects
garbage.
I
know
a
lot
of
that
is
from
the
wind.
A
lot
of
that
is
perhaps
from
certain
you
know,
people
who
are
spending
time
there
and
maybe
eating
and
just
leaving
their
garbage
so
and
then
other
areas
like
around
dunkin
donuts
or
even
a
block
away
from
dunkin
donuts
you'll
see
a
lot
of
cups
and
bags
from
there
and
there
are
plenty
of
other
areas.
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That's
an
ongoing
issue.
Then,
for
example,
where
I
live
is
a
side
street
that
is
a
short
street.
So
there
are
people
who
are
coming
there
after
they've
ordered
out
and
they
sit
there
and
then-
and
even
though
we
have
thank
you
to
dpw,
there
is
a
trash
can
at
the
end
of
the
street,
it's
still
easier,
sometimes
to
throw
the
garbage
into
the
gutter.
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C
This
is
an
example
of
a
couple
of
different
areas
and
again
we
could
show
you
picture
after
picture,
but
I
know
anybody
who
walks
through
the
city
drives
through
the
city
parks
in
a
parking
lot.
You've
seen
this,
so
this
is
an
al,
and
this
is
certainly
not
in
all
areas.
This
is
I,
I
would
say,
maybe
half
the
city
just
spread
out
in
different
areas.
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So
as
far
as
solutions
as
I
mentioned,
it's
I'm
I'm
looking
for
a
holistic
approach.
Some
maybe
some
sort
of
a
task
force.
So
instead
of
having
isd,
go
to
different
stores-
and
you
know
saying,
if
you
don't
clean
up
we're
going
to
give
you
a
fine
which
everybody
is
reticent
to
do-
nobody
wants
to
give
out
fines.
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How
about
having
something
like
that
to
address
this
issue
of
the
refuse
throughout
the
city
which
is
is
does
not
perhaps
seem
like
the
same
kind
of
issue
as
a
scarcity
of
housing
or
food
insecurity,
which
are
two
major
issues
in
this
city
and
particularly
now.
My
what
I'm
suggesting
is
simply
that
this
is
something
that
we
are
all
aware
of
and
that
we
all
do
care
about,
and
that
is-
and
it
is
a
health
issue
as
well.
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It
is
a
hygiene
issue.
It's
a
mental
health
issue.
It's
it's
something
that
if
you
look
at
it
holistically,
we
want
people
to
be
as
healthy
as
possible.
So
as
far
as
having
a
task
force,
how
can
we
leverage
the
success
of
the
city
and
community
groups
nonprofit
organizations
by
creating
a
community
outreach
task
force?
Can
we
do
that?
The
task
force
would
meet
with
residents,
store
owners
and
landlords
on
a
consistent
basis
to
meet
them
where
they
are
in
terms
of
challenges
that
they're
having
with
tenants
or
customers
or
neighbors?
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So
if
their
tenants
are
going
out
and
standing
in
front
of
the
building
all
day
and
smoking
and
throwing
their
cigarette
butts
on
the
street,
how
can
we
approach
that
in
a
way?
That's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
work
versus
saying?
Don't
do
that
by
having
this
sort
of
boots
on
the
ground
task
force,
we
might
be
able
to
level
up
our
efforts
to
improve
litter
situations
on
both
the
public
and
private
properties
in
a
non-confrontational
manner,
so
no
fines
or
penalties
unless
necessary.
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This
seemed
to
really
reach
a
pretty
high
level,
and
but
it's
something
that
always
exists,
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
way
of
approaching
it
that
you're
out
you're
suggesting
to
people.
Please
don't
throw
your
garbage
in
the
street
you're
having
people
clean
up
as
well
you're
having
things
being
beautified
and
it's
a
sort
of
it's
a
community
approach.
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So
what
so
trash
is
obviously
something
that
that
we
talk
about
on
on
on
a
daily
basis.
I
answer
calls
from
from
both
counselors
our
city
manager
and
residents
almost
daily
right
that
involve
you
know,
issues
say,
for
example,
at
a
park
like
like
quigley
or
or
or
mattresses
on
the
sidewalk
like
like
on
maverick
street.
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You
know
so
so
it's
something
that
we
we
deal
with
on
on
a
daily
basis,
but
what
I
wanted
to
share
first
was
was
that
a
high
level
describe
what
we
have
done
so
far
right.
So
so
the
one
of
the
the
first
and
I
think,
biggest
impact
for
for
little
control
is
that
is
that
we
have
rolled
out
thanks
to
the
council
and
and
the
funding
high
quality,
secure
trash
barrels
for
all
residents
of
chelsea
right.
D
So
so,
regardless
of
of
the
the
number
of
units
in
your
building.
If,
if,
if
anyone
wants
a
trash
barrel,
that
trash
barrel
is
made
available
to
them
at
no
cost,
what
what
we
saw
in
the
past
is
that
a
lot
of
the
the
barrels
that
that
residents
had
on
the
street
had
holes
in
them
didn't
have
any
tops
and
and
allowed
a
lot
of
litter
to
to
escape
on
on
trash
day.
That,
I
believe,
has
been
reduced
significantly.
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In
addition,
we
we
have
rolled
out
six
thousand
identical
barrels
for
for
recycling
and
again
with
with
recycling,
as
as
it
is
a
lot
of
paper
products,
the
the
small,
recycle
bins
would
would
allow
a
lot
of
litter
to
escape.
So
so
these
these
two
initiatives
were
were
a
heavy
lift
that
that
we
accomplished
and-
and
we
have
successfully
implemented
in
our
city
four
and
a
half
years
ago.
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So
so
really
anyone
who
wants
a
trash
barrel
on
on
the
sidewalk
that
that's
large
and
decorative
please
contact
dbw
as
councillor
sabbat,
has
also
shared.
We
clean
chelsea
square,
we
clean
bellingham
square,
we
clean
city
hall
and
in
the
downtown
on
a
daily
basis
right.
So
so,
every
morning
we
dispatch
three
or
four
employees
of
dbw
and
and
we
clean
the
the
the
downtown
and
our
squares
on
a
daily
basis.
D
Additionally,
we
we
have
really
focused
on
on
improving
beauty
around
the
city,
so
that
that
ranges
from
from
the
banner
programs
that
that
are
around
the
city,
the
the
welcome
signs.
We
we
just
recently
installed
illegal
dumping
signs
on
on
on
many
areas
that
that
we
think
are
are
a
recurring
complaint.
D
And
again
I
mean
we:
we
try
to
do
our
best
to
respond
to
any
issue
as
quickly
as
we
can
now.
What's
next
right,
as
the
counselor
was
implying
this.
This
is
a
a
holistic
approach
right,
the
the
the
answer
has
to
involve
education
right
and,
and
it
has
to
involve
community
engagement.
So
so
I'm
sure
you
all
saw
it,
but
but
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
to
to
play
the
psa
that
we
we
we
put
out
it.
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What
we
have
found
is
that
there
there
are
certain
areas
in
in
our
in
our
city
that
that
require
constant
attention
and
dpw,
unfortunately,
does
not
have
the
the
capacity
to
to
do
it,
and-
and
you
know
the
the
the
level
of
skill
that
is
required
for
that
job
is-
is
not
very
high.
So
so
what
what
we
are
proposing
you
can
go
to
the
next
library
moment
is.
D
It
is
what
we
have
talked
in
the
past
right,
so
it
it's
essentially
creating
a
seasonal,
seasonal
employment
program.
That's
that's
hosted
by
by
the
city
where,
where
we
create
a
little
hubs
right
of
of
of
residents,
that
that
can
can
take
ownership
of
of
a
particular
area
of
chelsea
right,
so
so
what
what
we
would
do
is
is.
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D
Now,
when
we
came
to
to
the
city
council
a
few
months
ago,
you
know
we,
we
we
really
focused
on
beauty
on
the
flowers
right.
We
really
focused
on
on
the
fact
that
that,
by
improving
the
way
that
things
look
on
the
sidewalk,
we
believe
it
it
serves
as
a
deterrent
for
littering,
but
but
I
think
we
we
we
focused
on
the
flowers
a
little
too
much.
You
know
the
the
idea
of
this
program
is
is
not
to
plant
flowers.
The
idea
of
this
program
is
is
to
employ
employ
our
residents.
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B
D
And
again
I
mean
this:
this
is
something
that
that
I've
shared
in
in
the
past.
I
think
that
that
to
to
really
raise
our
game
to
to
take
this
to
to
a
new
level,
we
we
need
to
deploy
part-time
employees
who,
who
would
be
chelsea
residents,
who
will
be
making
a
living
wage
and
and
would
be
an
extension
of
what
we
do
every
morning
in
the
downtown.
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D
So
in
the
summer
program
we
we
hire
summer
supervisors
right,
however,
that
that
that
program
is
heavily
heavily
overlapped
with,
with
with
with
the
larger
summer
employment
program
right
that
that
is
hosted
by
la
colorado
last
last
summer,
in
particular,
because
of
covet
and
in
the
year
before
that
we
saw
a
large
reduction
in
in
the
employees
that
that
are
are
actually
doing
that
because
the
the
they
are
shifting
the
the
the
tasks
of
of
of
of
summer
youth
to
more
technology-based
jobs
right.
So
so
so.
F
Was
just
wondering
what
is
the
total
amount
of
all
these
people?
We
have
in
the
summertime
that
the
city
employs
for
cleaning
the
streets
or
some
work
in
city
hall,
but
the
bulk
of
them
are
clean
and
they
go
outside
they
clean.
They
stay
in
the
schools.
They
clean
the
schools.
I
was
just
wondering:
what
is
the
total
amount
that
the
city
has
from
what
you're
telling
me
roca
only
has
four
for
what
I
was
told.
D
F
October,
so
out
of
seven
months
so
that
you
say
the
total
cost
is
going
to
be
296,
292,
292,
000
right
so
now,
once
you
these
employees
and
get
they
go
under
the
city
right,
even
if
they're
part-time
employees
does
the
city,
because
I
know
I
want
the
city
manager
to
tell
me
these
employees
will
have
to
get
health
insurance
and
these
employees
will
be
entitled.
Well,
I
don't
know
about
that.
Well,
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
asking
tom.
F
This
is
a
question
I'm
asking
well,
this
is
the
next
thing,
and
will
they
be
entitled
to
go
out
and
collect
unemployment
for
the
other
months?
That's
something
else.
So
they
no
longer
become
part-time
employees,
because
the
city
picks
up
all
90
of
the
unemployment.
So
now
they're,
no
longer
part-time
employees,
they're
full-time
employees,
if
they.
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D
They
are
not
benefit
eligible,
so
so
what
that
means
is
that
they
can't
collect
health
insurance,
retirement
or
anything
like
that,
so
so
that
that's
not
something
that
that
they
would,
they
would
qualify
for
on
on
the
unemployment
piece.
Really
it's
it's
a
it's
a
state
law
right,
so
so
so
anyone
that
works
anywhere.
D
Okay,
so
anyone
that
works
anywhere
for
any
number
of
hours
can
can
can
file
a
claim
for
unemployment.
They
could
file
a
claim
for
unemployment,
so
so
health
insurance
is
they.
They
cannot
obtain
health
insurance.
That's
that's
clear.
They
cannot
obtain
health
insurance
for
for
unemployment.
Anyone
can
file
a
claim
for
unemployment.
If
the
the
the
employer
receives
that
claim
right
and-
and
we
can
process
it,
we
can
approve
it.
We
can
deny
it.
We
can
handle
it
in
that
way.
So
so
it
it
it's
really
handled
under
the
state
law.
F
Okay,
so,
in
other
words,
it's
very
simple-
these
part-time
employees
become
full-time
employees
for
one
they
can
go
and
get
unemployment
which
the
city
picks
up.
City
picks
up
the
unemployment,
so
they
become
full-time
employees,
even
though
they're
not
full-time
employees
and
for
another.
I
think
the
city
has
to
supply
health
insurance.
G
I
am
going
to
include
this
as
a
request
in
my
free
cash
letter
coming
to
the
council
next
monday
night,
I
have
about
12
different
free
cash
requests.
This
will
be
one
of
them
in
terms
of
your
specific
question
on
health
insurance,
we
absolutely
will
not
be
paying
nor
be
required
to
pay
health
insurance.
Temporary
employees
who
work
less
than
19
and
a
half
hour
work
less
than
20
hours
a
week,
and
these
will
are
not
entitled
to
health
insurance.
G
G
We
will
try
to
craft
this
so
that
we're
not
paying
unemployment
compensation
to
these
people.
My
experience
in
revere
was
very
few.
Circumstances
of
these.
Temporary
employees
resulted
in
health
and
unemployment
insurance
claims.
Although
I
can't
guarantee
that
there
will
never
be
a
circumstance
where
we
won't
have
to
pay
someone
some
unemployment
compensation,
but
to
me
that
risk
is
worth
taking
in
order
to
proceed
with
this
program,
this
is
the
way
that
I
was
able
to
handle
this
problem
in
revere.
Every
year
we
hired
a
cadre
of
temporary
employees
from
april
to
october.
G
It
was
like
clockwork
we
hired,
25
or
30
of
them
in
revere.
They
happen
to
be
senior
citizens.
That
is
not
my
intent
here.
My
intent
intention
is
to
hire
anyone.
They
could
be
seniors,
they
could
be
young
people,
they
could
be
parents.
I
wouldn't
necessarily
limit
it
to
senior
citizens,
and
my
sense
is
that
we
just
don't
have
that
many
seniors
who
are
looking
for
this
kind
of
work
if
they
are
great,
we'll
hire
them,
but
it
will
be
broader.
G
G
It
was
worth
the
risk
because
this
is
really
the
only
way
in
my
opinion,
that
you
can
address
this
problem
effectively
by
hiring
a
significant
number
of
temporary
employees
during
this
sort
of
warm
weather
period
typically
april
to
october.
Is
the
period
we're
talking
about?
I
agree.
We
do
in
the
summertime,
sometimes
get
young
kids
to
help
us,
but
that
is
a
very
narrow
program.
It
is
six
weeks
this
is
six
months,
so
I
feel
strongly.
This
is
a
good
program
and
I'm
gonna
advocate
for
it
next
week.
I.
F
The
next
question
I
have
is
a
simple
one:
these
people-
let's
say
we
approve
this,
and
we
make
you
do
it
right
now,
these
people,
so
you
say
these
are
going
to
be
chelsea
residents.
Are
these
going
to
be
each
year
you're
going
to
change
the
new
staff
or
these
permanent
part-time
positions
for
these
25
people,
because
so
each
year,
you're
going
to
change
them.
G
F
Description
will
be
right
if
you're
going
to
do
it.
It's
a
good
thing
that
you
want
to
do
for
the
community,
I'm
not
against
that,
but
I'm
in
favor
of
you
rotating
each
year
give
each
member
of
this
community
who
needs
it
a
part-time
job
each
year
for
doing
it,
but
not
the
same
people
each
year.
There's
40
000
people
in
this
city
and
I'm
sure
if
we
were
going
to
do
it,
we
don't
want
the
same
supervisor
or
the
same
people,
I'm
in
favor
of
I'm
not
against
this
program.
F
Let
me
put
a
bluntly:
I'm
not
against
it,
but
I
don't
want
the
same
people
to
get
the
same
job,
because
then
it
becomes
a
position
for
somebody
for
the
same
person
if
you're
going
to
do
it
and
I'm
going
by
the
way,
if
you
do
that,
I'm
in
favor
100
that
everybody
in
this
city
rotates
you
can
only
work
every
year.
The
next
year
goes
to
another
guy.
That
applies
because
that
way,
you
keep
the
people
in
the
city
more
interested
in
doing
it,
and
you
give
everybody
in
the
city
an
opportunity.
F
I
don't
want
to
create
25
jobs
and
25
people
are
the
only
ones
that
are
ever
going
to
do
it.
Let's
just
create
an
another
section
of
dpw
in
a
smaller
version.
If
you
want
to
do
it,
I'm
not
against
what
you
want
to
do,
I'm
in
favor,
but
I'm
against
keeping
the
same
people
there.
All
the
time,
I'm
in
favor
of
rotating,
just
like
you
give
the
summer
jobs
to
the
youths
in
the
city.
That's
what
you
do
each
year,
they
reply
and
they
go
back
right.
So
that's!
F
I
don't
want
it
to
be
a
permanent
position
for
somebody,
a
permanent
part-time
position.
That's
what
I'm
against
I'm
in
favor
of
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
I'm
against
giving
someone
one
steady
part-time
job
each
year.
If
you
want
to
do
it
for
the
community
like
it
says
here:
fine,
let
everybody
in
the
community!
You
can
do
it
one
year,
then
the
next
year.
Somebody
else
do
it.
So
that
gives
everybody
an
opportunity.
Whoever
wants
to
do
it
and,
I
believe,
that's
fair
and
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
F
I'm
against
me
creating
25
positions
of
the
same
people
getting
it
then,
because
you
already
have
a
massive
other
thing
doing
you
got
roka
doing
it.
You
got
this
doing
it.
You
know
you
got
the
senior
program
doing
it.
You
got
a
whole
bunch
of
doing
it,
but
I'm
in
favor
of
helping
the
community
create
new
jobs
for
the
youths
and
the
old.
Whoever
wants
to
apply
as
long
as
it
rotates.
F
G
So
I
can
guarantee
you
that
these
will
not
be
permanent
temporary
jobs
for
any
individual,
and
my
experience
is
there
will
be
lots
of
turnover
each
year.
However,
I
wouldn't
want
to
say
definitively
that
someone
who
does
a
great
job
we
wouldn't
want
to
say
you
can't
come
back
next
year,
I'd
like
to
say
someone
that
really
does
well.
We
would
encourage
them
apply
next
year.
You
really
were
a
good
worker,
which
is
how
we
did
it
and
how
these
programs
typically
work.
G
It
typically
means
that
every
year
there's
a
fair
amount
of
turnover
because
the
jobs
are
temporary.
People
don't
tend
to
rely
on
these
jobs,
they
get
other
jobs,
they
move.
So
there's
always
a
lot
of
turnover
just
like
there
is
in
the
summer
youth
program.
But
if
you
look
at
the
summer
youth
program,
I
would
see
that
you
would
find
that
there's
some
percentage
of
kids
who
end
up
coming
back
the
next
year
they
reapplied
and
they
got
selected.
So
I
don't
want
to.
G
I
don't
want
to
guarantee
you
that
there's
not
going
to
be
a
single
person
who
does
it
this
year
and
doesn't
show
up
on
the
payroll
next
year,
but
it
is
not
a
permanent
temporary
position
and
I
know
there
will
be
lots
of
turnover
in
this
position.
So
there'll
be
lots
of
opportunity
for
new
people
to
apply
each
and
every
year.
Well,.
F
H
You
know
with
our
with
our
budget,
and
you
know
I
I
I
just
think
this
is
an
idea
that
is
going
to
have
to
wait
until
we
have
regular
revenues
coming
in.
You
know
we're
we're
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
short,
and
so
I
just
like
you
know,
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
program.
It's
it
sounds
great
and
it
sounded
great
the
last
time
it
was
proposed,
but
our
situation
has
not
changed
and
you
know.
G
So
I
will
this
is
being
proposed
from
one-time
funds
as
a
one-time
expense,
it's
not
being
proposed
as
part
of
the
dpw's
operating
budget.
Yet
so
it's
a
one-time
expenditure,
we're
asking
for
funds
to
for
one
six-month
period
a
year
from
now
next
winter
february
we
can
come
back
here
and
say:
can
we
afford
it
another
year?
G
G
We
have
a
significant
amount
of
it
that
got
certified
for
june
30th
2020.,
I'm
going
to
come
to
you
with
a
bunch
of
one-time
spending
requests.
One
of
the
is
this
one.
The
most
you're
committing
to
is
we'll.
Try
it
for
this
six
month
period
as
a
pilot
and
see
what
we
think.
If
it
turns
out
you're,
not
satisfied,
then
it
doesn't
get
renewed.
It's
not
going
to
be
in
the
fy
22
operating
budget,
so
it
is
not
going
to
be
a
recurring
expense.
I'm
proposing
it
as
like.
G
Many
of
the
other
programs,
we
have
done
it's
a
pilot,
you
revisit
it
next
year
and
decide
if
you
want
it
or
not.
These
are
temporary
positions.
All
the
employees
know
this
program
ends
in
october
and
there's
no
guarantee
they're
ever
getting
hired
again
or
that
the
program
will
even
exist
after
october
of
2021..
H
Mr
city
manager,
isn't
our
free
cash
gonna
be
needed
to
make
up
the
deficits
for
this
year
and,
if
you're
saying
well,
let's
spend
it
now
and
then
come
back
in
six
months
when
you
know-
and
we
can
see
if
we
can
afford
it,
we
can't
afford
it
now.
This
is
the
whole
point,
and,
and
there
are
free
cash
is,
is
going
to
have
to
be
used
to
make
up
the
deficits
of
millions
of
dollars
that
that
we
are
short.
H
H
G
So
one
thing
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
we
have
I'm
not
in
other
than
our
typical
deficits
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
a
handful
of
accounts,
and
we
have
them
year
after
year.
Those
are
normal
deficit
requests
at
the
end
of
a
fiscal
year,
I'm
not
anticipating
any
significant
deficit
at
the
close
of
fy21.
G
G
I
feel
pretty
confident
that
the
amount
of
money
we're
going
to
need
to
balance
that
budget
is
going
to
be
significantly
less
than
what
we
had
to
use
in
21
and
more
in
line
with
what
we
have
used
for
reserves
in
all
the
years
I
have
been
here
every
year
I've
been
here,
we've
used
about
a
million
dollars
in
reserve
to
balance
our
budget.
That's
typically
what
we've
done
here.
G
Used
5
million
because
of
our
deficits,
I
think
in
fy
22,
it's
hard
to
say
yet.
I
haven't
seen
all
my
budget
numbers.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
back
in
the
one
to
two
million
dollar
range
in
terms
of
needing
stabilization
reserves
to
or
needing
free
cash
reserves
to
balance
our
fy
22
budget
in
part,
because
our
revenues
are
starting
to
pick
up
a
little
bit
more
than
we
anticipate.
H
Well,
I'd
be
anxious
to
see
those
numbers
when
you
have
them,
but
you
know
whether
you're
talking
about
free
cash
or
stabilization
fund,
any
new
spending
is
going
to
basically
come
out
of
of
those
things,
and
this
this
is
just
a
you
know.
This
is
a
matter
of
priorities,
and
so
you
know
I
I
just
I'm
sorry,
I'm
perhaps
I'm
a
bit
old-fashioned,
but
you
know.
H
I
think
that
when
we
take
money
from
the
taxpayers
that
we
should
be,
you
know
mindful
of
how
we're
spending
money,
especially
when
we
don't
have
our
full
money
coming
in
and
if
we're
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
other
priorities
as
far
as
working
down
the
debt
on
the
pensions
and
so
on,
and
so
on,
but
long-term
stuff
that
we
need
that
stabilization
money
for
not
to
mention
the
free
cash.
So
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
other
considerations
that
you're
not
bringing
up
that.
H
I
think,
are
important
for
people
to
know
about,
and
you
know
it's
like.
I
said:
I'm
not
I'm
not
opposed
to
a
beautification
project.
I'd
love
there
to
be
a
beautification
project,
but
when
we
can
afford
it
and
when,
when
we
actually
have
the
money
to
do
it,
instead
of
you
know,
taking
it
out
of
funds
that
are
are
really
meant
for
something
else.
G
I
don't
want
to
downplay
the
fact
that
we
did
no
question.
We
spent
a
lot
of
money
in
colvin
and
reduced
our
reserves,
so
one
thing
we
do
want
to
start
doing
is
restoring
those
old
reserves.
I
absolutely
agree
with
that.
That's
different
than
covering
deficits.
This
is
sort
of
restoring
back
where
we
were
before
covert.
That
is
going
to
take
some
time.
We've
spent
10
to
15
million
dollars
fighting
colvin,
and
that's
going
to
take
some
time.
No
question
about
that.
G
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
this
program
in
the
big
scheme
of
things
is
relatively
small
money
it's
292
000,
so
I
think
it's
a
worthwhile
expenditure.
At
this
point.
The
council
will
end
up
having
to
consider
this,
along
with
my
other
free
cash
request.
I
have
about
four
million
and
free
cash
requests
coming
to
you
from
monday
night.
A
C
If
I
might
just
speak
on
as
far
as
addressing
what
counselor
taylor
has
been
asking
about,
I
would
say
number
one:
this
is
a
beautification
program,
but
it
is
more
than
that.
It
is
a
work
program
so
rather
than
the
trickle-down
effect,
we're
trickling
up
we're
employing
people
who
live
in
chelsea,
we're
not
going
to
be
employing
people
outside
of
chelsea
we're
employing
people
in
chelsea.
We
are
providing
them
with
employment,
and
the
idea
behind
that,
as
tom
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting,
that
we
had
is
that
they
are
making
money.
C
They're
employed,
they're,
gainfully
employed
number
one.
That's
better
for
everybody's
mental
health.
Number
two.
Ideally
they're
spending
some
money
here
in
chelsea,
whether
it's
at
the
convenience
store
market
basket,
wherever
it
is
they're
putting
money
back
into
the
economy.
So
that's
beyond
just
beautifying.
C
C
There
are
neighborhoods
that
are
clean
and
for
whatever
reason,
if
it's,
because
people
are
not
sitting
there
and
throwing
their
wendy's
out
the
window
or
it's
because
the
neighbors
have
decided
that
they
want
to
keep
their
area
clean,
is
it
where
there
are
more
homeowners
than
renters?
Who
knows
so?
I
walk
out
my
door
and
I
am
a
homeowner
and
I
do
clean
up
and
I
don't
throw
my
garbage
in
the
street,
but
my
entire
street
is
covered
with
garbage.
That
is
the
first
thing
I
see
when
I
walk
out
of
my
door.
C
C
But
it
is
a
very
big
deal
when
I
walk
out
of
my
front
door
or
a
child
walks
out
of
his
front
door
or
her
front
door,
and
all
they
see
is
garbage
everywhere,
whether
that's
on
occasionally
needles.
If
it's
a
mcdonald's
cup
whatever
it
is,
it's
in
the
parks,
it's
in
the
parking
lots
it's
on
the
streets
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
it
is
not
every
neighborhood.
C
C
C
So
I
understand
that
these
are
really
hard
times,
and
this
is
asking
for
a
lot
but,
as
you
pointed
out
tom,
this
is
a
pilot.
This
is
something
we
are
trying
and
in
terms
of
finances,
it
seems
to
me
that
it
is
kind
of
a
drop
in
the
bucket
we
we
have
taken
a
huge
hit
during
this
time.
This
is
just
one
little
part
that
we
can
do
to
help
raise
up
our
community.
E
E
E
If
mr
manager
is
saying
the
money's
available,
I
don't
see
it's
available,
but
I
don't
see
a
need
for
hiring
when
we
already
have
programs
that
a
lot
of
the
counselors
say
that
you
know
because
of
the
youth
programs,
they
don't
get
out
and
do
a
lot
of
stuff.
You
have
an
opportunity
to
make
it
an
efficient
program.
E
You
you
you're
looking
for
workers,
you
have
workers
a
lot
of
folks
think
that
the
youth
don't
do
work.
Here's
an
opportunity
to
put
them
to
work
and
also
watch
over
it
and
manage
it.
Well,
maybe
you
hired
two
or
three
folks.
If
that,
but
again
you
have
the
direction
of
the
dpw.
I
don't
even
believe
you
need
to
hire
anyone.
E
I
just
think
that
you
know
we
are
underlining
whip.
We've
been
through
this
past
year
and
almost
a
half
now
as
far
as
finance,
and
we
we're
thinking
that
maybe
six
months
of
finance
at
you
know,
half
a
million
dollars
or
another
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
is
not
a
big
thing,
but
listen
to
what
the
manager
is
saying.
He
has
many
projects
once
we
stopped,
I
added
those
foggy
stuff
from
the
free
cash.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
this
problem,
it's
going
to
be
another
project
and
another
project,
but
another.
E
It's
money,
that's
coming
out
of
our
committee
or
our
finance
that
we're
unsure
I've
been
reading
the
new
york
times
daily,
and
everyone
is
saying,
if
you
don't
actually
stop
helping
out
folks
to
reduce
the
rents
and
reduce
the
commercial
rents,
you're
going
to
lose
a
lot
of
folks
you're
going
to
have
an
abandoned
city.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
need,
I
think,
there's
a
big
responsibility.
E
The
some
of
the
slides
were
shown.
I
mean
the
commercial
folks
whether
it's
dunkin,
donuts,
bellingham
square,
padville
or
you
know,
everett
f.
They
have
a
responsibility.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
their.
You
know
their
trash
law.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
what
they're
doing
to
you
know
to
help
us,
because
they
made
a
commitment
that
they
would
be
responsible
neighbors
by
making
sure
that
they
have
their
properties
and
surrounding
their
property
free
of
the
litter
that
they
sell
and
that
could
be
scratch
ticket.
E
That
could
be
dunkin
donuts
cup.
You
know,
so
we
have
to
also
do
all
enforcement
by
not
doing
enforcement.
Of
course,
you're
going
to
create
a
atmosphere
that
you
have
and
no
one
has
wants
to
be
enforced
with
a
ticket
but
a
violation,
but
if
you're
in
violation,
if
you
get
a
warrant-
and
we
have
very
decent
and
very
good
folks
there
and
isd
and
dpw-
but
you
just
can't
continue
to
let
it
go
because
you
believe
that
you
know
we're
going
to
do
it.
E
Another
way
we're
going
to
hire
people
to
come
clean,
well
we're
responsible
for
cleaning.
So
I
just
think
again,
you
know
where
we
are
right
now.
I
would
love
to
look
at
this
when
we've
been
you
know,
six
months
to
a
year
outside
of
the
pandemic
post
pandemic,
we're
out
of
it
we're
officially
out
of
it.
People
are
back
to
city
hall
full
time.
E
People
are
not
worrying
to
you,
know,
walk
out
in
front
of
their
doors
and
then
say:
okay,
let's
see
where
we
are
now,
but
to
jump
in
this
and
again
ask
folks
to
come
out
only
because
they're
getting
paid,
we've
done
a
lot
of
beautification
projects.
I've
been
to
city
council
for
a
long
time
off
and
on,
and
it's
always
been
a
lot
of
volunteers
and
I've.
Actually
many
of
us.
We
we're
glad
to
see
so
many
volunteers,
so
we
take
a
step
back
and
we
let
the
the
younger
generation
come
in.
E
So
I
don't
think
the
right
thing
is
always
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
pay
for
this
service
we're
going
to
create
a
service,
because
we
want
to
find
something.
Our
cities
work
very
hard
to
make
this
city
what
it
is,
there's
been
some
difficult
tough
times
in
asia,
and
I
don't
think
you
credit
or
I
don't
think
you
compared
to
what
our
city
could
be
moving
forward.
E
That's
to
say,
wait
a
minute!
This
really
the
most
important
thing
right
now
we
just
if
no
one
that's
come
to
us
and
say:
oh
you
guys
given
too
much
money
for
food
or
shelter
or
rent.
They
understand
that
it
was
a
difficult
time.
People
support
it.
They
may
have
numbered
a
bit,
but
they
come
back
on
top
of
that
now
and
then
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
take
more
money
to
clean
up
the
place.
C
G
G
G
E
E
G
Yes,
but
the
point
I'm
making
is
mike
mcateer
and
isd
cannot
find,
cannot
enforce
any
of
those
voluntary
actions.
If
there's
all
sorts
of
coffee
cups
on
the
public
sidewalk
in
front
of
mcdonald's,
mike
mcatee
cannot
issue
a
fine
to
mcdonald's
for
that
that
is
glitter
on
the
public
way.
It
is
the
city's
responsibility
to
clean.
E
E
So
dunkin
donuts
they
sign
this
agreement.
They
give
disagreement
once
they
come
up
hey.
We
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor,
because
we
have
these
and
we
have
these
agreements.
We
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
want
to
go
out.
We
want
to
clean
in
front
of
our
store.
We
realized
the
bus.
Stop
is
here.
We
realized
that
90
of
it
is
dunkin,
donuts,
lottery,
tickets
and
mcdonald's,
so
we
in
conjunction
of
beautification,
what
we
they
sign,
something
they
give
it
to
us
they're
in
violation.
E
G
G
We
can't
enforce
it,
that's
a
sanitary
code
violation,
but
when
there's
trash
on
the
public
way,
that
is
not
something
that
mike
can
deal
with
through
enforcement
of
fines
and
most
of
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
trash
and
problems
on
the
public
way,
which
are
the
responsibility
of
the
city
the
only
so
I
guess
the
direct
answer.
Question
is
no
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
to
enforce
when
someone
voluntarily
says
I'll
clean
up,
but
it
turns
out,
they
haven't
done
a
good
job.
G
E
G
C
G
You
know,
I
think
the
council
has
said
it's
a
cooperative
effort.
You
engage
the
the
business
owners.
You
show
them
that
the
city's
doing
some
work,
we're
putting
flower
boxes
in
front
of
their
business.
Lots
of
business
owners
will
voluntarily
take
this
on
and
clean
lots
of
residents.
Take
it
on
and
clean
in
front
of
their
own
home.
They
clean
the
gutter
line.
They
clean
the
streets.
I
see
the
mountain
chelsea
homeowners
out
there
cleaning
their
sidewalk
in
the
street.
G
G
C
What
we're
talking
about
this
task
force
and
these
people
who
would
be
employed
seasonally,
would
be
a
task
force.
It
would
be
about
community
building,
so
they
would
be
assigned
to
different
parts
of
the
city
and
they
would
clean,
but
they
would
also
engage
with
the
community
and
then
and
then
you
would
have
residents
and
store
owners
who
would
be
interested
in
keeping
up
with
it.
A
I
I
A
I
It's
a
never-ending
job,
trash
management.
In
the
end,
you
do
get
compliance
in
every
address,
but
it
could
take
months.
It
could
take
million,
you
know,
tickets
upon
tickets
and
they
could
change
ownership
and
the
problem
starts
all
over
again,
so
it'll
never
end,
but
we
do
get
compliance
at
every
address
eventually,
but
this
and
then
the
next
door.
Neighbor
has
a
problem
and
it
keeps
going.
C
B
C
I
A
C
I
Over
and
over
and
over
again-
and
that's
the
other
thing,
we
haven't
really
there's
a
lot
of
tickets
out
there
that
are
in
for
appeal
a
lot
of
times.
Once
you
get
that
person
in
front
of
you
a
lot
of
times,
we
call
we
can't
reach
anybody,
so
you
write
them.
A
ticket
write
another
ticket
once
they
show
up
at
the
appeals
they
kind
of
they
have
to.
I
You
know
they
have
to
either
walk
the
walk
or
you
know
they
can't
say
it
didn't
happen
once
they
see
the
pictures
in
front
of
them
and
they're
right
in
front
of
strep
treadway.
So
usually
it
happens.
You
know
you
go
to
appeal
once
you
get
probably
give
them
the
benefit
of
doubt,
but
they
can't
keep
coming
to
the
appeals
and
and
winning
so
kind
of
kind
of
helps
the
process.
I
Some
of
the
corporate
places
are
bad:
okay,
because
they're
not
from
around
here,
okay
and
a
lot,
a
lot
of
properties
that
are
foreclosed
or
in
foreclosure.
You,
you
send
a
ticket
to
a
bank
and
the
bank
doesn't
even
know
they
have
it.
Then
you
know
they
discover
months
later
they
have
these
tickets,
because
there's
just
so
many
people
so.
A
I
In
fact,
I
see
downstairs,
in
fact,
sometimes
when
someone
puts
a
dumpster
down,
they
don't
get
a
dumpster
permit.
The
the
owner
gets
fined,
but
we'll
also
send
a
ticket
to
the
dumpster
company
because
they're
supposed
to
notify
us
like
they
said
this
is
a
temporary
dumpster
they're
doing
a
construction
product
next
to
your
house.
If
that
dumpster
goes
there
and
the
dumpster
companies
know
they
need
to
get
a
permit,
even
if
the
owner
does
it,
and
you
know
we,
we
try
to
hold
both
accountable,
the
dumpster
company
and
the
owner.
A
D
A
D
Are
we
putting
all
together
now,
we've
gotten
that
question
quite
a
bit,
so
so
it
is
illegal
for
the
trash
company
to
mix
recycling
and
trash
right,
so
so,
if
if
if
they
were
to
cut
doing
that,
the
ep
would
would
get
them
in
trouble
right.
That's
that's
against
massachusetts
law.
What
it
is
not
illegal
to
use
that
same
truck
only
for
recycling
only
for
trash.
So
what
what
the?
D
What
the
company
has
explained
to
me
and-
and
this
this
has
come
up
many
times-
is
that
they
will
either
rotate
the
truck
or
they
will
make
make
two
runs.
One
is
a
recycling
a
run
and
the
other
one
is
a
trash
run,
so
so
they
use
the
the
same
truck,
but
but
not
at
the
same
time.
Okay,
so
so,
if
you
know
I've
gotten
videos,
I've
got
a
complaint,
I
mean
I,
I
brought
about
brought
it
up
to
them.
A
D
A
D
A
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
thing
about:
if
you
want
to
solve
the
problem
of
trash,
is
that
you
know?
Do
you
have
some
sort
of
preventative
measures?
I
mean
I
like
the
psa.
I
thought
it
was
great,
but
you
know
maybe
there
should
be
some
sort
of
a
concerted
effort
among
a
lot
of
different
community
organizations,
for
you
know
an
anti-littering
campaign
to
to
raise
awareness
among
the
populace
about
hey,
it's,
not
okay,
to
throw
your
mcdonald's
wrappers
out
your
window
when
you're
driving
you
know
or
whatever
it
is.
H
You
know
just
a
just
a
general
awareness.
I
mean
some
things.
You
can
never
change,
I
suppose,
but
you
know
it
seems
like.
If
you
want
to
address
this
on
a
kind
of
permanent
basis
you
should
we
should
be
trying
to
kind
of
amend
the
behavior
of
people
too.
Not
just
you
know
paying
to
clean
up
after
them.