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From YouTube: MassDOT Tobin Bridge Meeting of 6-28-23
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City of Chelsea
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For
presentation
participants,
we
have
Michael
Doug
the
director
of
major
projects,
Chris
kiviora
from
the
administrator's
office,
mauricia
yab
from
District
Six,
Mark
Griffin,
also
from
District
Six.
The
chief
engineer,
Lavalley,
was
called
away
for
other
business
and
she
thought
she
couldn't
attend
tonight,
but
she
was
slated
to
attend
Mass
Dot's,
Design,
Consultants,
Project
transystems.
Tonight
we
have
the
project
manager,
Tom
stopis
and
from
httv
Patrick
Marvin,
our
public
involvement
specialist.
You
you
just
please
so.
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The
the
public
information
meeting
notification
was
placed
in
a
number
of
newspapers,
the
Chelsea
record
The
Daily,
Item
and
El
planeta,
not
cot,
prepared
a
media
advisory.
We
put
the
project
flyer
on
our
website
in
both
English
and
Spanish,
did
email
blasts
to
over
3000
contacts,
both
in
English
and
Spanish
content.
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For
decades
lead
paint
was
this
industry
standard
for
All
Steel
structures
in
the
United
States
used
on
Bridges
radio
towers
Etc?
It's
estimated
that
30
of
All
Steel
structures
in
the
United,
States
and
Massachusetts
still
have
lead-based
paint.
So
this
is
not
unique
to
the
Tobin
Bridge
lead
paint
was
suspended
in
the
U.S,
for
residential
use
in
1978
was
was
allowed
for
commercial
and
Industrial
applications.
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So
the
total
Bridges
is
an
older
structure.
It's
over
75
years
old,
it's
been
painted
over
a
number
of
times
that
paint
has
become
brittles
over
the
years.
Massachusetts
winter
is
over
the
last
several
years
at
extreme
temperature
swings,
especially
this
past
winter,
where
there
was
a
couple
of
day
periods
where
it
was
below
zero
and
then
the
following
days
were
in
the
50s.
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So
this
sort
of
swinging
temperature
has
caused
the
more
delamination
to
typically
occur
than
what
happens
in
most
Winters
is
with
the
extreme
temperature
space
that
we
had
last
winter,
just
having
to
talk
with
other
dots
in
New
England.
They
experience
the
same
thing
with
this
past
winter
as
extreme
temperatures
and
the
flaking
of
their
steel
Bridges
paint.
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An
interim
netting
system
will
also
be
installed
in
parallel
with
the
ongoing
cleanup
activities.
The
installation
of
this
interim
netting
system
is
expected
to
be
in
in
a
couple
weeks
in
July
and
we'll
coordinate
with
the
city
of
Chelsea
if
they
have
any
questions
or
concerns,
and
the
community
hotline
for
any
questions
in
relation
to
the
lead.
Paint
issue
is
up
on
the
screen,
but
it's
857-492-0221.
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Thanks
John,
my
name
is
Tom
sopas
I'm
with
Tran
systems.
We
are
the
project
Engineers
on
this
project
and
we'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
this
program.
Yeah
yeah,
so
this
project
that
encompasses
the
entire
Chelsea
approach,
both
the
upper
level,
lower
level
The,
Beacon,
Street
ramp
and
the
Everett
Street
ramp.
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So
part
of
this
contract
because
of
the
paint
chips
that
are
coming
down,
contractors
requiring
that
the
contractor
Ally
requires
temporary
protective,
staging
or
Shield
work
and
containment
as
early
as
possible.
From
the
once
the
project
starts,
there
has
been
a
disincentive
clause
in
the
contract,
encouraging
the
contractors
plans
and
install
temporary
protective
shield
work
within
120
days
of
the
notice
of
proceeding
and
the
paint
chip
cleanup
will
be
transferred
to
the
new
contractors
within
seven
days
of
notice
received
foreign.
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So
the
way
this
contract
is
set
up
is
that
they're
going
to
clean
the
existing
seal
on
all
the
on
all
the
structure
perform
repairs
to
the
steel
subject
to
elements
place,
the
safety
walk
in
areas
where
it's
needed
and
then
completion
of
the
steel
repairs.
Then
they're
going
to
paint
the
steel
anywhere
in
between
that
it
can
be
doing
the
substructure
repairs
it.
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So
the
traffic
management,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
a
cross-section
of
the
bridge,
looking
North.
So
the
phase
one
which
was
spring
of
2024
will
Encompass
the
right
or
east
side
of
the
bridge
and
there
will
not
be
any
major.
There
will
not
be
any
permanently
encourages
and
just
reduce
the
lane
widths
by
a
little
bit.
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So
just
a
brief
note
on
construction,
public
Outreach,
this
will
certainly
not
be
the
first
pass
or
the
first
touch
at
briefing
the
community.
Ensuring
people
are
aware
of
the
work
operations
and,
what's
going
on
we'll,
have
Outreach
throughout
the
duration
of
the
project.
I
believe
the
link
is
on
the
next
slide,
but
there's
a
project
website
has
already
been
established
and
this
presentation
is
online
in
English
and
Spanish.
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We'll
continue
to
have
regular
construction
updates,
including
continued
public
meetings
as
Tom
just
mentioned,
there'll
be
a
public
meeting
prior
to
the
commencement
of
construction
activities
sometime
next
spring,
and
there
are
multiple
ways
that
you'll
be
able
to
reach
us.
So
this
you'll
be
able
to
visit
the
meeting
website
to
view
this
recording
at
a
later
date.
So
this
will
be
online.
People
can
able
to
view
this
at
their
convenience.
You
can
submit
email
comments
to
master
major
projects.
The
address
is
massdot
Major
projects
at
dot.state.mad.us.
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And
then
the
project
website
for
the
Tobit
bridge
this
project
and
work-
that's
happening
is
now
online.
So
it's
it's
right
there.
You
can
also
just
visit
the
event
page
where
this
was.
You
can
see
that
or
you
can
also
submit
written
comments
to
the
chief
engineer
if
you
send
it
to
massdot
to
10
Park
Plaza,
just
attention
major
projects
and
then
the
project
number,
which
is
605
959.
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I
first
learned
about
the
de-betting
of
the
Tobin
Bridge.
When
I
was
a
preschool
teacher
over
at
kangaroo's
pouch
in
the
1980s,
you
can
translate
because
you
do
better
than
mine,
okay
and
so
I'm
particularly
concerned
that
the
Department
of
Transportation
took
over
ownership
and
responsibility
of
the
bridge
in
2009.
But
we
just
heard
that
the
bridge
was
last
painted
in
1999
and
the
substructure
was
last
rehabilitated
in
1997
and
I'm.
Just
wondering.
Why
is
the
Department
of
Transportation
wasn't
proactive?
G
B
B
This
ridiculous
slide
just
focused
on
the
work
that
dot
is
undertaken
in
the
past
number
of
years,
he's
taking
ownership,
so
it
does
include
painting
on
a
the
Boston
side
of
the
the
Tobin
Bridge
in
2016.,
the
main
span
painting
in
2011
other
substructure,
repairs
and
whatnot,
told
demolition,
Demolition
and
replacement
a
non-tall
repairs.
Okay,
we're
ongoing!
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Evening,
everybody,
my
name,
is
Michael
o'don.
Do
you
want
to
introduced
me
earlier
in
the
the
Gathering
again
public
hearing,
I'm
director
of
major
projects
and,
as
John
just
pointed
out,
we
have,
on
the
second
a
significant
amount
of
effort
to
rehabilitate,
maintain
and
preserve
destruction,
including
addressing
issues
regarding
lead
paints.
So,
since
we
have
taken
over
you'll
see
that
there's
been
a
number
of
contracts
that
we
have
led
up
specifically
towards
planning
and
painting,
this
will
be
I'm,
not
mistaken.
J
We
met
with
Tony
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
walked
through
with
them
the
number
of
efforts
that
we've
taken
and
undertaken
recently,
but,
more
importantly,
over
the
last
number
of
years
to
address
the
issues
not
only
structurally,
but
also
with
regards
to
family
pains
and
deterior
range.
Today,.
J
J
Structures
we
have
a
lot
of
Assets
in
our
regulatory.
This
is
not
the
only
Bridge
we
are
striving
to
address
any
issues
with
regards
to
the
structural
repairs,
as
well
as
addressing
issues
related
to
family
paint.
So
I
think
we've
done
a
very
good
job
since
taking
care,
custody
and
control
of
the
bridge.
F
Thank
you,
John
Walker,
with
greeners
in
particular
on
this
I
mean
the
the
situation
for
the
community
sitting.
Here
is
that
seven
years
ago,
according
to
this,
the
Boston
side
was
delighted.
Painting
was
done,
and
even
five
years
before
that
the
main
part
in
the
middle
was
done.
So
it
seems
if
you're
de-letting,
it's
kind
of
like
you,
went
onto
the
bridge.
You
got
to
the
Chelsea
line
and
stopped
and
let
it
sit
there
and
In
fairness
outside
of
for
the
people
who
are
in
charge
of
the
fridge.
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F
That
was
good,
but
we
also
had
a
lot
of
issues
with
dust
and
and
debris
from
that
as
well.
So
it's
a
cumulative,
a
sort
of
accumulation
of
projects
where
it
feels
very
distant,
respectful
the
treatment
that
the
city
has
had
from
and
the
community
residents,
especially
especially
when
we
consider
the
amount
of
lead
contamination.
It's
all
over
every
place.
F
We
know
every
urban
area
in
Massachusetts,
but
Chelsea
is
and
I
think
Frank
can
speak
to
an
even
more
so
the
health
impacts
of
that
have
been
known
in
Chelsea
for
a
very
long
time,
especially
with
the
children
and
the
flood
levels,
and
such
so
to
say
that
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
from
a
Chelsea
perspective.
That
really
does
it
doesn't
sound
right.
I
mean
it
sounds
as
if
you
did
up
to
the
Chelsea
border
and
stopped
and
had
it
not
been
for
Tony
calling
this
out.
F
We
don't
know
how
long
we
would
have
been
waiting
for
this
to
actually
occur,
and
so
I
just
would
like
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
and
I
know,
because
so
much
of
the
capital
projects,
Depend
and
maintenance
projects
all
depend
on
federal
funding
and
bonds,
and
everything
else
correct
that
these
things
are
hard
to
schedule.
But
I
would
like
to
understand
why
Chelsea
was
scheduled
to
last
on.
J
So
we
recognize
that
we
couldn't
afford
it
number
one
and
number
two,
the
time
frame
by
which
it
would
take
to
address
everything
from
the
bottom
of
substructure,
repairs
and
the
steel
repairs,
the
deck
and
any
of
the
life
States
life
safety
systems
that
are
on
there.
It
would
take
forever
to
do
so.
What
we
have
to
do
is
we
have
to
break
it
down
into
components.
J
There
was
no
ill-intense
I'm
sure
when
the
programming
of
these
project
components
and
these
assignments
were
established
and
scheduled
with
placing
Boston,
and
when
we
took
the
projects
we
took
care,
custody
and
control
from
the
previous
owner.
We
needed
to
do
a
full
stem
to
stern
inspection
to
identify.
Where
are
the
concerns?
What
are
the
issues
from
a
structural
perspective?
J
Certainly,
structural
safety
is
critical
to
us,
but
understanding
what
the
condition
is
of
the
steel
and
how
we
can
preserve
that
steel
painting
is
a
significant
element
component
of
actually
preserving
steel,
so
we
needed
to
understand
what
is
the
best
approach
to
undertaking
each
of
these
repair
contracts,
whether
they
be
painting,
substructural
or
psglvp
and
Tech
Repair.
So
that's
how
we've
progressed
through
it.
There
was
no
I,
think
and
I
could
be
completely
wrong.
J
J
Enough
away
and
even
running
concurring
Carlo
with
it
we're
also
doing
all
the
direct
repairs
associated
with
all
the
Chelsea
spans
and
undertaken
some
of
the
critical
steel
religions
that
needed
to
begun
to
take.
While
we
were
doing
that,
we're
also
evaluating
other
locations
knowing
full
well.
This
particular
contract
that
we're
here
to
discussed
tonight
was
our
into
development.
So
it's
not
like.
This
is
something
that
we
just
overnight,
identified
as
being
a
critical
concern.
J
We
needed
to
act
on
it,
we've
been
in
the
development
process
of
putting
together
the
scope,
the
limits
and
the
work
that
needed
to
be
undertaken
as
part
of
this
assignment
in
this
contract.
The
last
several
years,
wild
work
is
going
on
in
the
Chelsea
curves
and
while
work
was
also
going
on
in
the
other
Chelsea
deck
spins,
so
I
mean
this
has
been
something
that
dot
in
the
highway
division
have
been
focused
on,
and
we
still
it's
not.
The
last
part
of
our
program.
K
My
concern
is
the
fact
of
the
structure,
because,
when
you
see
rebars
on
columns,
that
really
is
something
and
I
have
a
picture
here.
I
just
showed
Patrick
that
dates
back
to
2017,
and
you
see
the
rebounds
and
I
always
wonder
if,
for
whatever
reason,
something
happens
to
the
bridge,
I
mean
we've
seen
problems
recently
off
with
Bridges
throughout
the
country,
but
in
this
particular
case,
how
much
would
the
D.O.T
Blues
in
the
course
of
a
day
week
year,
if
that
bridge
was.
J
An
operative
I
would
be
a
significant
impact,
it'd
be
a
significant.
Do
you
have
a
favorite?
No
I
do
not
have
a
favorite
okay.
Okay,
do
you
know
it
would
be
significant,
though
yeah,
which
is
why
we
can't
allow
that
to
happen,
which
is
why
dot
has
been
very
proactive
since
assuming
ownership
of
the
facility
in
the
asset
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
capital
program
that
identifies
the
priority
and
needs
that
need
to
be
taken
on
by
US,
based
upon
the
condition
that
we
see.
So
we
inspect
it
periodically
at
a
minimum.
J
It's
two
years
and
in
some
instances
it
could
be
a
year
or
as
little
as
six
months
as
special
members.
So
in
instances
like
you're
referring
to
right
now
with
it
could
be
reinforcing
exposing
something
substructured
elements
we
identify
those,
but
then
we
will
actually
compare
it
against
other
areas
on
the
structure
that
may
be
more
critical.
J
We
put
that
into
our
inspection
list
and
we
will
identify
that
happened
to
be
undertaken
in
the
next
series
or
the
next
round
of
assignments
that
come
forward
right
now
we
are
addressing
one
at
the
Mystic.
We
have
several
of
the
Kias,
as
you
would
mentioned,
do
have
exposed
reinforcing,
but
they
have
small
in
the
lamination
of
many
of
the
concrete
stem
items
we're
out
there,
patching
them
and
repairing
those
to
ensure
that
we
can
get
another
20
years
of
service
life
out
of
this.
J
K
Well,
as
far
as
I
said,
the
particular
area
since
I
go
under
the
bridge
two
or
three
times
a
day.
I
get
concerned
relative
to
that.
But
but
my
question
is
this:
is
a
piece
of
property?
That's
under
your
jurisdiction.
Yes,
if
you
owned
a
piece
of
real
estate,
you
have
a
reserve
account
for
that
particular
property.
It
appears
that
you
don't.
J
Well,
I
think
the
important
things
to
something
that
Tom
snowman
said
mentioned
earlier
is
how
dot
is
set
up
right
now
to
fund
all
of
the
projects
that
are
identified
for
the
token
by
using
the
toll
Revenue.
So
that
is
how
we
will
determine
what
the
revenue
proceeds
are
on
an
annual
basis
and
then
have
a
better
understanding
as
to
the
work
in
this
the
extent
of
work
that
can
be
undertaken
each
fiscal
year
during
the
course
of
the
the
program
that
we
have
the
capital
program
that
we
have.
K
But
as
far
as
increasing
the
tolls
over
the
period
of
time,
because
most
of
the
people
that
go
over
the
bridge
do
not
live
in
Chelsea
or
East
Boston,
they
don't
have
the
discount.
So
you
get
in
your
top
dollar.
I
mean
what
you
your
organization
reminds
me
of
is
the
T
I
mean
all
of
a
sudden.
They
have.
The
trains
are
crashing
and
all
this
other
stuff
and
whoa,
we
don't
have
the
money.
You
have
the
ability
to
increase
the
tolls.
If
you
can't
meet
these
deficits.
J
J
A
E
L
Like
the
third
agency
now
because
from
my
his
I
know
in
history,
a
little
bit
of
the
bridge,
I
used
to
live,
I,
Manchester,
Street
near
it
for
nine
years,
but
that
bridge
was
built.
I
was
a
I
guess
the
Tobin
Bridge
Authority
and
they
were
saying:
okay,
we're
gonna
pay
this.
Once
we
paid
this
bridge
off,
Chelsea
residents
will
go
free
once
they
paid
it
up,
they
changed
I
think
was
massport
and
we
had
a
State
Rep
on
Richie
Boca.
L
One
point:
I
went
through
the
sale
I
guess
they
just
saying:
okay,
we
will
be
most
affected
by
this
bridge.
A
lot
of
the
housing
around
here,
they've
been
displaced
and
also
the
bridge
kind
of
goes
weird.
It
goes
around
because
some
people
have
a
little
more
influence
about
having
their
houses
taken
for
the
bridge.
So
it's
not
going
out
straight.
It's
cursed,
so
that
I
mean,
and
now
you
you're
in
there
I
mean
we're
so
we're
still
paying
for
this
break.
L
L
Where
is
it
going
so
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
slash,
but
my
other
concern
with
now
the
Sumner
Bridge.
Some
no
tunnel
is
going
to
be
closed
for
a
couple
months.
That's
going
to
be
effective,
bridge
I
know
you're
not
going
to
be
doing
a
project
this
year,
but
next
year
you
would
probably
be
doing
the
project
when
they're
going
to
close
it
again,
but
I
think
my
concern
with
I.
L
L
Lane
we
can
get
it
faster,
but
the
bus,
but
if
you
were
driving
there's
a
whole
lot
of
traffic
and
you
know,
and
even
on
Saturday
afternoon
Sunday
afternoon,
you
know:
where
is
the
traffic
coming
from
now?
The
tunnel
is
going
to
be
closed
tomorrow.
It's
going
to
come
this
way,
so
I
don't
know
if
anybody
did
a
study,
but
the
dots
also
makes
a
bigger
fact
for
that
paycheck
to
come
out.
You've
got
a
lot
more
traffic.
J
Certainly
I
mean
it's
I
would
say
that
the
primary
cause
is
age.
The
the
coding,
the
age
of
the
coating,
the
age
of
the
steel
and
the
condition
of
this
deal
is
a
significant
factor
as
well
as
just
the
environment
itself.
With
regards
to
you
know,
as
joyter
points
it
out
earlier,
some
of
the
the
priests,
the
freezing,
the
exposure
to
the
elements,
exposure
to
the
the
alkaline,
the
water
effect
optimistic,
so
I
think
there's
a
significant
portion
of
that.
J
J
D
So
my
name
is
Alex
I
serve
as
the
Director
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
for
the
city
of
Chelsea.
First
off
I
want
to
thank
residents
for
coming
up
tonight,
taking
time
out
of
their
schedule
to
deal
with
this
topic,
as
well
as
our
partners
at
Green
roots
of
the
conservation
law
foundation
for
being
staunch
allies
and
working
relentlessly
on
this
subject.
So
you
know,
admittedly,
a
lot
of
folks
in
this
community
and
in
this
room,
have
lost
a
lot
of
faith
in
Mascot.
D
There
has
been
some
Goodwill
generated,
but
issues
like
the
lead
paint
issue,
the
viaduct
reconstruction
and
a
lot
of
the
environmental
impacts
that
residents
have
had
to
live
with
on
a
day-to-day
basis
has
certainly,
you
know,
dimmed
their
worldview
towards
the
city.
I
have
a
couple
of
items.
I
just
want
to
run
through
with
regards
to
this
project,
as
well
as
the
ongoing
cleanup,
I
think,
first
and
foremost
for
presentations
like
this,
and
we
previously
raised
this.
D
We
would
appreciate
that
you
do
everything
in
a
bilingual
fashion,
including
the
slide
deck
in
English
and
Spanish
share
that
is
accessible
for
residents.
With
regards
to
the
the
ongoing
cleanup,
you
know,
the
matter
of
lead
paint
chips
falling
is
of
grave
concern
to
the
city,
it
impacts
our
residents
Health,
it
impacts
Youth
and
it
can
stifle
their
their
development.
We,
in
partnership
with
green
roots
and
conservation
law,
Foundation
submitted
a
letter
detailing
the
steps
that
we
urge
massdot
to
take
in
order
to
appropriately
respond
to
this
issue.
D
You
know
to
date,
secretary
fiandaka
has
provided
a
response
to
some,
but
not
all
of
those
we're
requesting
things
like
monitoring
children's
blood
levels
for
lead,
ensuring
that
they
have
access
to
health
care
and
providing
resources
to
property
owners
that
are
are
impacted,
so
we,
you
know,
respectfully
urge
the
state
to
take
that
request
seriously
and
respond
appropriately
with
this
project,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
you
know:
infrastructure
projects
in
Chelsea,
and
we
understand
the
intricacies
of
it.
There
are
a
lot
of
opportunities.
I
think
we
see
to
expedite
this.
D
So
we
start
seeing
action
before
spring
of
2024.
That
could
include
providing
incentives
in
the
contract
to
get
this
started
sooner,
as
well
as
structuring
the
contract
to
deliver
this
on
a
lot
quicker
time
then
you're
depicting
today.
Secondly,
I-
don't
think
the
city,
nor
our
residents
have
a
lot
of
faith
that
massdot
can
deliver
this
project
without
further
impacting
our
residents.
M
M
J
What
I'll
do
is
I'm
in
response
of
that
question,
but
it's
also
going
to
be
in
response
to
a
comments
that
I'll
just
made
okay,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
is
as
John
was
pointing
out
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
We
will
have
a
Contracting
team
out
there,
mobilizing
to
install
that
netting
and
that
middle
catch
all
or
at
least
90
percent
I
would
hope
any
propane
chips.
But
what
we've
also
done
is
getting
to
your
point
about
creating
incentive
and
disincentive
clauses.
J
J
So
it's
like
a
belt
and
suspenders
type
thing
right
now,
but
we're
out
with
we're
putting
up
the
netting
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
months,
while
the
contract
was
being
the
committing
teams
in
the
industry.
Right
now
are
putting
together
bid
packages
so
that
when
we
are
ready
to
issue
that
NCP
by
the
late
summer,
just
after
Labor,
Day
or
contractor
will
be
able
to
get
rolling
by
mobilizing
and
installing
the
permanent
Consignment
system
that
they'll
be
using
in
the
safe
span
system
that
they'll
be
using
before
they're
actually
undertaking
the
work.
Thank.
C
M
J
Of
the
testing
that
dot
is
undertaken
over
the
course
of
the
last
several
months,
I
should
say
over
the
last
several
years,
so
I
think
it
goes
overlooked
in
the
fact
that
any
of
the
painting
contracts-
that's
your
team
and
I've,
been
here
before
the
public
in
Chelsea
before
and
I've
met
with
Chelsea
collaborative
and
Chelsea
Primrose.
So
I
personally
am
concerned
about
this
as
well.
In
keeping
these
projects
in
the
capital
program
that
I
spoke
of
earlier,
the
area
that
is
the
area
that
we've
already
tested,
that
is
part
of
this
contract.
J
All
of
the
results
have
been
shared
with
the
city,
so
we
maintain
close
Communications
with
any
of
the
independent
testing
that
is
undertaken,
the
sampling,
the
testing
and
the
results
I
shared
with
our
city
colleges,
so
that
they
do
have
access.
One
of
the
conditions
that
the
contractor
enters
into
under
the
contract
that
we
have
with
them
is
that
they
will
have
to
maintain
that
sampling
testing
and
ensuring
that
number
one
nothing
is
getting
out
is
all
within.
J
N
You,
after
hi
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Flora
Maya
and
I'm.
The
director
of
Public
Health
for
the
city
of
Chelsea
I
saw
the
response
that
you
provided
to
Green
Roots
regarding
the
request
on
proactive
testing.
I
recognize
that
nasdot
counsels
with
dth
and
dph
guidance
was
for
Chelsea
residents
to
seek
lead
screening
through
their
medical
provider.
I
am
here
with
colleague,
Regina,
LaRock
and
I.
N
Furthermore,
I
think
the
response
also
indicated
ongoing
communication
between
dph
and
community
health
centers
to
increase
oxes
for
Chelsea
residents
to
blood
screening
I
have
not
received
any
communication.
Neither
have
my
colleagues
at
a
Healthcare
centers.
Regarding
this
communication.
A
letter
was
drafted
and
submitted
to
dph,
commissioner,
echoing
and
highlighting
this
point.
I
know
that
you're
here
today
really
just
to
speak
on
the
project
and
what
that
will
consist
of.
However,
I
cannot
stress
the
importance
of
having
dph
representation
in
future
meetings,
because
we
do
believe
this
is
necessary.
N
It
is
important
to
have
this
done.
It
is
not
the
first
documented
event,
I
think
again,
Regina
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
there
have
been
records
of
exactly
the
same
problem
occurring
in
the
80s
and,
as
has
been
advocated
by
colleagues
to
Green
roots
and
Housing
and
Community
Development.
What
is
the
assurance
that
this
is
not
going
to
continue
happening
in
the
future,
but
again?
My
comment
right
now
is
really
to
Echo
the
importance
of
proactive
web
screening
for
both
adults
and
children
and
to
revisit
that
communication
with
dph.
J
You
right
now
is
I
can't
speak
to
it.
I
do
appreciate
and
thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
can't
speak
to
any
of
the
correspondence
that
has
occurred
with
dph
I.
Do
know
that
our
team
members
of
our
team,
our
Environmental
Group,
as
well
as
in
the
chief
Engineer's
Office,
have
been
coordinating
with
EPA
region.
One
and
they've
had
close
contact
and
EPA
has
been
giving
us
Direction
and
recommendations
and
strategies
on
how
to
move
forward
with
this.
J
I
have
not
had
any
coordination
or
Communications
with
dph,
so
I
couldn't
speak
to
that,
but
I
will
bring
it
back
to
our
chief
engineer
and
we
can
follow
up
with
you
on
that.
No
problem
whatsoever.
As
far
as
assurances
I
don't
offer
assurances.
What
I
can
assure
you
is
that
it
is
our
intents
to
ensure
the
safety
of
this
asset
this
bridge
structurally,
but
also
to
address
many
of
the
insurance
and
criticisms
that
we've
gotten
recently
with
regards
to.
How
are
we
maintaining
it
a
safe,
healthy
condition
below
the
bridge
as
I
mentioned?
J
This
is
not
the
first
time
I've
been
out
in
Chelsea
and
in
the
public
meeting
at
the
city
to
address
previous
projects
that
have
gone
out
and
tested
both
when
we
were
doing
the
Chelsea
curves
project
we
tested
soils,
we
tested
the
paint
chips
also
on
the
previous
paint
jobs
we
tested
those.
So
we
do
have
a
track
record
of
being
out
there
testing
to
ensure
that
there
isn't
any
exposure
that
would
be
concerning
or
unhealthy
and
that's
a
concern
for
us.
O
O
At
Mass,
General,
Hospital
and
I
wanted
to
underscore
the
point
that
lead
is
a
potent
Toxin
and
there
is
no
safe
level
of
exposure
to
lead
for
human
beings.
The
effects
on
children
are
particularly
with
coding.
There
are
long-term
neurobehavioral
effects
in
children,
and
so
the
fact
that
this
bridge
has
rained
blood
chips
down
on
this
community
for
some
time
means
there
has
been
a
exposure
to
a
potent
Toxin
and
that
engenders
a
certain
responsibility
in
the
entity
that
owns
that
structure
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
residents.
O
Who've
been
exposed,
and
so
I
and
a
number
of
colleagues
have
written
to
the
commissioner
of
Public
Health,
specifically
requesting
that
there
be
soil
testing
before
during
and
after
after
this
project,
and
that
there
will
be
testing
of
the
people
who
live
in
the
corridors
surrounding
the
bridge,
because
you
need
to
know
if
children
have
high
lead
levels
in
this
area,
and
we
know
that
historically,
children
in
Chelsea
have
lacked
access
to
lead,
testing
and
screening,
and
so
this
needs
to
be
done
proactively.
In
close
communication
with
the
Department
of
Public
Health
and
with
funds.
C
O
The
125
million
dollars
for
this
project,
so
I
just
want
to
encourage
you,
I,
think
you're
being
able
to
answer
questions
about
health
and
your
engineers,
but
I
also
requested
of
the
commissioner
of
Public
Health,
and
somebody
from
the
public
health
department
attend
this
meeting
and
so
I
think
in
the
future.
You
would
benefit
from
having
somebody
represent
that
voice
here,
because
this
is
a
dangerous
exposure
that
this
community
has
been
subjected
to.
Thank.
A
C
A
H
J
Well,
our
program
right
now
is
to
maintain
a
series
of
assignments,
and
you
know,
asset
upkeep-
to
maintain
the
structure.
The
the
response
relative
to
the
20
years
was
the
patching
that
we're
doing
on
some
of
the
concrete
work
that's
undergoing
right
now,
where
there
is
exposed
reinforcing,
based
upon
my
experience,
having
worked
their
own
bridges
for
quite
a
few
years
now,
when
we
do
those
patches
on
concrete,
we
can
typically
get
around
20
years
reasonably
comfortably.
J
No,
no
I'm
saying
the
repairs
that
we
do
so
that
they
think
we
can
all
access
to
trying
to
maintain.
But
Mr
Mahoney
said
if
we
own
a
property,
maintaining
it
some
of
the
repairs
as
much
as
I'd
like
to
think-
and
my
wife
reminds
me
of
it
all
the
time
it's
not
going
to
last
forever.
You
need
to
get
out
there
and
maintain
it
on
a
regular
basis.
So
don't
worry.
This
is
no.
J
So
the
painting
is
temperature
sensitive.
Obviously,
however,
what
we
can
see
is
that
a
contract
that
has
certainly
got
the
ability
to
be
able
to
do
the
removal
of
paints
but,
more
importantly,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
Steel
repairs
that
have
to
be
undertaken
and
the
steel
repair
work
can
be
undertaken
throughout
the
winter
months
as
well.
So
there's
all
sorts
of
proactive
measures.
Contractors
can
take
for
their
employees
their
staff
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
they
can
work
right
through
the
window.
Another.
C
C
J
And
there's
no
doubt
about
it
is
the
waste
does
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
steel,
the
acidity
of
it
reacts
with
the
steel.
We've
tried
to
take
all
sorts
of
reactive
and
proactive
measures
to
to
deter
pigeons
and
birds
from
roosting,
sometimes
successful
more
times
than
not
unsuccessfully
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
anything
in
this
contract
right
now,
Tom
and
I'm.
J
H
J
Well,
I
think
you
know
in
hindsight
we
probably
could
have
done
things
differently.
Like
I
had
said
earlier,
this
contract
was
already
in
development.
We
were
fully
anticipating
advertising
this
project
later
this
year.
Until
sometimes
we
realized
the
rate
of
and
the
acceleration
and
the
deterioration
and
the
paint
chips
that
were
falling.
That's
what
forced
us
to
say!
Okay,
we
need
to
accelerate
our
design
development,
so
we
can
get
the
project
contract
documents
out
on
the
street
for
contractors.
J
So,
like
I,
said
in
hindsight,
if
we
had
anticipated
that
being
the
case,
we
would
have,
but
unfortunately
we
did
so
now
we're
trying
to
react
to
a
condition
that
we
have
and
our
District
staff
is
out
there
on
a
regular
basis.
You
see
them
out
there
daily
weekly,
ensuring
that
anything
that
is
falling
is
being
picked
up
and
disposed
of
properly.
I
Nicole
hi
Carl
Allen
I'm,
a
planner
with
the
city
of
Chelsea
I
haven't
internalized.
Do
we
intend
to
see
a
Mars
seven,
but
what
is
it
this
you're?
Actually
monitoring
for?
Is
it
a
continuous
process
of
monitoring,
or
are
you
just
taking
samples
every
hour
or
a
couple
times
a
day,
and
how
will
you
be
presenting
those
data
to
the
public.
J
So
the
paint
testing
I
think
we
have
clear
understanding
of
what
we're
doing
with
the
paint
testing
goes
out
in
the
Laboratories,
the
results
being
tested
for
a
number
of
actual
reportable
thresholds
that
may
be
exceeded
with
the
air
quality
similar
to
how
we
have
to
take
the
noise.
We
have
receptors
that
are
identified
within
the
areas
of
the
contract
limits
where
the
project
limits
are
going
to
be.
The
contractor
will
be
required
for
establishing
a
baseline
monitoring
study.
What
is
this
monitored?.
J
O
J
It's
the
air
pollutants,
the
concrete
dust
that
might
be
created
with
regards
to
in
any
of
the
steel.
So
when
we're
out
there
doing
the
shot
glass
that
or
de-letting
the
steel
oftentimes,
there
could
be
dust
that
escapes
outside
of
the
containment
everything
shouldn't,
because
we
have
a
negative
containment
series,
a
negative
negative
pressure,
containment
area
set
up.
But
that's
what
they'll
be
testing
very
similar
to.
Like
I
said
we
set
up
a
perimeter
around
the
project
area
and
we'll
make
some
of
the
initial
measurements
before
work
starts.
O
Let's
make
the
point
that
air
quality
monitors
monitor
particulate
matter,
which
is
a
certain
type
of
pollutants
that
you're
referring
to
as
sure
or
they
monitor
volatile
organic
chemicals
which
are
generated
combustion
sure.
So
those
are
the
things
that
air
quality
monitors
can
do,
and
so
that
I
think,
is
an
important
distinction
when
you're
worried
about
dust
settling
on
the
ground
from
soil
testing,
which
will
require
a
separate
way
of
considering
the
type
of
exposure
that
might
exert
here
and
I.
Think
that's
what
you're
asking
about
yeah.
P
Let's
be
honest,
what
are
we
here?
No
we're
here
we're
here
because
we're
hopping
in
February
3rd
and
that's
something
that
the
guilty-
I
don't
put
it
on.
You
shouldn't
know
about
it,
because
it
happened
back
in
17,
2017
up
in
the
west,
Western
Massachusetts,
okay
and
it
took
somebody
up
and
I
think
it
was
15.
P
of
February
of
February
to
approach
green
roots
and
that
the
call
was
made
now
there
was.
There
were
shipped
all
over
the
place.
I
got
it.
I
got
the
video
okay,
there
were
ships
all
over
when
when
they
tested
they
tested
the
ship.
Now,
where
was
the
lead?
The
soil
test
was
done,
I
mean,
which
you
have
the
right
to
know
what
is
underground
there
and
and
the
DLT
is
responsible.
P
Oh,
they
stay,
whoever
it
is
for
making
up
the
cleaning,
because
it's
being
done
in
other
places
not
in
this
state,
but
in
Maine
it
has
been
done.
You
know
where
the
contracts
that
went
up
and
didn't
cover
the
floor,
the
ground,
the
soil
got
tested
and
I
was
there,
because,
basically,
when
I'm
going,
let
me
go
back.
P
I
I
have
issues,
and
they
have
the
way
this
bridge
that
you
say
that
was
done.
The
only
size
of
the
bridge
that
was
painted
here
was
in
2004
was
it
just?
It
was
a
ramp,
it
was
delayed,
it's
the
only
part
of
Chelsea
was
delivered.
They're
push-ups
was
deleted
back
in
1973..
Nothing
else
has
been
touching
there.
Now.
I
questioned
this
about
96.
The
South
Chelsea
side
painted
I
question
that,
because
that's
what
I
do
for
living
I'm
a
bridge,
painter
and
I,
live.
J
C
P
P
It
feels
like
a
black
and
brown
community
that
nobody
gets
a
loss.
Okay,
that's
that's
the
way
it
feels
to
me.
You
know
we
carry
the
burden
of
all
this.
The
the
North
Shore
coming
into
Chelsea
I,
live
within
honestly
I'm
telling
you
right
now.
I'll
live
within
20
feet
from
the
from
the
Washington
Street
Bridge.
Underneath
there
sure
you
know,
I
put
up
with
the
noise.
I
put
up,
I
decide
to
live
here.
Okay,
but
you
know
what
it
is
it
is.
P
It
is
time
to
I
say
you
know
what
Hike
The
Dun
pause.
If
that
bridge
are
going
to
be
fixed,
they
want
to
go
through
there
hike
the
dancehalls,
you
know
so
that'd
be
taken,
be
maintenance
and
going
back
to
what
they
were
saying
about
the
concrete.
The
biggest
mistakes
going
back.
The
dot
made
is
when
the
concrete
is
not
treated,
stop
painting
the
Don
concrete.
So
you
don't
have
that
water,
but
the
salt
to
filter
in
the
right
end
over
the
winter
have
a
crew
cleaning
up
other
states.
P
J
It's
part
of
our
normal
inspection
process
that
would
be
undertaken,
like
I,
said
all
of
the
bridges
undergo
a
two-year
inspection
cycle.
If
there's
deficiencies
that
are
identified,
they've
noticed
in
those
inspection
reports,
if
they're
structural
deficiencies.
Those
are
also
noted
as
well
and
oftentimes.
What
ends
up
happening,
though,
is
what
we've
seen
before
and
I'm,
not
a
pains
expert.
It
only
knows
far
more
about
it.
J
I
used
to
work
in
construction
for
many
years.
I
saw
a
lot
of
Steel
painters
and
thank
you
for
the
work
you
did
because
it's
hard
work,
trust
me,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is.
As
the
steel
gets
older,
it
gets
more
and
more
brittle
and
the
ability
for
that
adhesion
for
the
old
paint
to
be
able
to
maintain
itself
and
steel
is
very
difficult.
So
the
older,
the
steel
gets
the
paints
that's
rapidly
deteriorating
as
well.
This
is
all
sorts
of
different
approaches
to
doing
it.
J
J
P
J
Correct
yeah
products
that
we're
using
right
now
than
we
have
in
the
past,
but
that's
that's
the
real
reason.
Is
it
just
once
you
start
getting
a
lot
of
infiltration
in
there
from
the
salts
and
the
corrosive
agents
that
we
use
to
be
able
to
prevent
icing
on
the
deck
and
that's
that's
leaking
through
the
joints.
It
hits
the
steel.
The
first
thing
to
feel
is
the
paints
and
then
the
stale
starts
to.
Q
J
Q
J
C
J
So
we've
actually
we've
gone
back
in
you
know
we
keep
an
inventory
of
which,
which
Bridges
we
have
over
5
300,
that
we
own,
plus
all
the
municipally
owned
Bridges,
there's,
probably
10
000
bridges
in
Commonwealth
that
we
have
to
either
inspect
update
or
maintain,
depending
upon
who.
The
ownership
of
this
has
been
a
concerted
effort
over
the
last
20
30
years
that
I've
been
doing
this
for
it
to
address
steel
and
the
the
leading
I
mean
years
ago.
Tony.
You
can
speak
to
this.
J
We
used
to
just
cover
the
the
lead,
that's
what
we
did.
That
was
our
approach
to
doing
it,
not
anymore.
We
don't
do
that
now.
It's
a
full
delaying
removal
where
you
get
down
to
Neil
White
or
bear
White
Steel,
and
that's
our
approach
to
doing
it.
So
we've
been
the
significant
amount
of
effort
and
expenditures
of
dollars
to
remove
them.
Q
Okay,
because
it
kind
of
sounds
like
you're
only
reacting
to
this
community
because
they
made
a
fuss
about
it.
But
then
you
have
you
know
all
these
other
bridges
that
could
potentially
have
lead
paint
falling
in
those
communities
that
you're
really
not
doing
anything
about
because
they're
not
saying
anything
about
it.
Like.
E
J
We
assess
the
condition
of
the
bridge.
We
assess
the
condition
of
the
Coatings
that
are
on
there
and
then
we
identify
and
prioritize.
We
write
them
in
the
prioritize
our
efforts,
it's
the
Chelsea,
is
not
identified
as
we're
not
looking
at
the
community
to
say.
Oh,
we
can't
do
this
one
because
of
that.
This
351
communities,
like
I,
said
there's
over
ten
thousand
Bridges.
So
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
look
at
each
one
and
we
prioritize
the
efforts
associated
with
it
based
upon
the
conditions
and
safety.
So
it's
a.
Q
J
R
Hi
thanks
so
much
for
being
here.
I'm
Lila
wait!
You
needed
to
be
here
so
I,
don't
know
about
this
hosting
situation.
I
also
work
with
green
roots
and
I've.
Had
the
great
pleasure
working
very
closely
with
the
folks
at
the
city
of
Chelsea
and
I.
Think
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
Alex
made
some
very
important
comments
and
I
do
want
to
Echo
something
that
you
said.
R
You
specifically
said
that
there
was
at
to
your
knowledge,
no
ill
intent
to
not
clean
up
and
not
deled
the
Chelsea
side
of
the
fridge
and
to
choose
to
de-led
the
Charlestown
side
of
the
bridge
first
seven
years
ago.
But
can
you
acknowledge
that
there
was
Ill
impact
specifically
in
the
7
to
12
extra
years?
R
If
we're
looking
at
the
big
Mystic
painting
of
lead
exposure
that
the
people
of
Chelsea
the
children
of
Chelsea's
face
that's
a
lifetime
for
a
middle
schooler
or
an
elementary
school
kid
that
they
have
been
addressed,
but
they
have
been
exposed
to
higher
levels
lead.
So
can
you
acknowledge
that
there
was
Ill
impact
even
if
there
was
an
ill
intent?
Well,
no.
J
No,
no!
What
I'll
go
back
to
what
I
said
earlier
in
response
to
your
neighbor's
question,
there
was:
how
have
we
identified
moving
forward
the
individual
assignments
and
projects
that
need
to
be
undertaken
to
move
forward
the
project
to
ensure
that
we're
maintaining
safety
and
integrity
of
the
steel
and
the
Integrity
of
the
concrete,
the
safety
of
it
for
the
motorists,
as
well
as
the
health
and
safety
for
the
folks
that
are
adjacent
to
it,
so
how
we've
staged
and
identified
which
components
which
segments
of
the
bridge
need
to
be
undertaken?
J
First,
that's
not
something
that
I'd
make
that
decision
on,
but
I
know
it's
based
upon
the
conditions,
the
ratings
condition
of
the
the
Coatings
and
the
steel
and
the
concrete.
Now
as
far
as
high
levels
you
had
made
mention
at
this
high
levels.
What
I
can
say
is
that
any
of
the
testing
that's
been
undertaken
both
several
years
ago
on
any
of
the
projects
that
I
was
involved
with
and
I
have
come
forward
to
the
city
before
or
any
of
the
testing.
That's
been
done
recently,
based
upon
the
complaints
and
the
calls
that
we've
received.
J
R
Me
clarify
and
reiterate
my
point:
I
didn't
say:
high
levels,
I
said
increased
levels
as
compared
to
specifically
folks,
for
example,
in
Charlestown,
where
the
bridge
was
delighted.
There
is
an
increased
exposure
to
lead
in
Chelsea
as
compared
to
Charlestown,
because
the
decision
was
made
to
de-lead
Charlestown
in
2016
and
not
Chelsea.
R
R
Understand
that
the
project
was
not
a
priority,
for
whatever
reason
can
you
still
recognize
that,
because
the
project
was
not
undertaken,
there
has
been
ill
impacts
for
whatever
the
reason
the
project
was
not
undertaken,
and
there
can
be
very
good
reasons.
I
acknowledge
that
I
am
not
aware
of
that
process.
I
am
not
an
expert
sure,
but
because
the
project
was
not
undertaken,
the
people
of
Chelsea
have
been
exposed
to
more
lead
than
other
communities.
Is
that
correct,
I.
J
J
And
we
in
China
were
out
there
testing
it.
Like
I,
said
in
the
last
several
years,
we've
tested
it
and
all
the
results
that
have
come
back.
It
says
it
is
not
of
the
increased
level,
so
so
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
results
like
I
said
I'm,
not
a
scientist
I'm,
not
an
environmental
scientists
that
can
speak
to
the
reports
of
the
lab
reports
that
we
get
back
in
here.
S
I
Rachelle
Carlo
I,
the
executive
director
of
the
CAPIC
and
I
have
a
press
release
dated
December
10
1976,
in
which
a
proposal
was
put
forth
by
my
organization
CAPIC.
This
is
1976
in
which
Ed
Markey
I
got
this
press
release
from
Ed
Markey,
in
which
Chelsea
was
the
third
Chelsea
had
the
third
highest
rate
of
lead
infection
in
children
in
the
hole
in
stock
in
the
whole
entire
station,
so
I'm
not
so
sure
about
Charles
down
being
delighted
first
and
then
Chelsea.
As
an
afterthought,
I
mean
this
has
been
going
on
1976.
C
S
A
systemic
it's
against
black
and
brown
communities,
I
mean
here.
I-
have
proof
right
here
that
this
was
this
was
tried
this.
This
was
due
to
be
mitigated
in
1976
and
we're
still
having
these
ongoing
issues
with
the
lead
in
Chelsea
I'm
very
concerned.
We
do
have
a
child
care
center
in
that
neighborhood
I'm
very
concerned
with
the
the
levels
of
lead
for
children
in
the
community.
I'm
very
concerned
about
having
follow-up
testing
in
the
in
the
community,
and
my
question
is:
if
this
hasn't
been
rectified.
S
Since
1976,
it's
changed
hands
a
couple
of
times.
It's
kind
of
like
purchasing
a
home.
You
know
purchasing
a
home,
an
inspection
is
done,
and
there
are
things
that
are
done
or
things
that
you
realize
that
you
know
this
has
to
be
rectified.
Okay,
so
that
lead
has
been
those
lead.
Chips
have
been
falling
since
1976..
This
is
a
black
and
brown
Community,
okay,
and
there
is
no
sense
of
urgency
to
get
the
to
get
the
issue
remediated.
S
J
S
Then
what
assurances
do
we
have?
Can
you
give
us
that
this
this
issue
that's
been
going
on,
probably
prior
to
1976
1976
is
when
they
put
out
purple
also,
and
in
this
proposal
it
proposed
that
CAPIC
do
the
lead
testing
for
3
600,
kids
in
Chelsea
to
check
the
levels
of
lead,
because
it
was
so
bad
at
that
time.
You
know
and
we're
still
dealing
with
this
issue.
It's
can
you?
Can
you
understand
our
frustration?
Yes,
okay
and
the
fact
that
one
side
of
the
bridge
has
been
completely
delighted.
I
mean
if
that
was.
S
C
C
J
S
Q
J
S
That's
all
I
can
assure
you
okay,
so
so
it
seems
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
and
meeting
with
us
that
the
project
looks
like
in
the
timeline
for
the
project.
I
really
appreciate
you
coming
out
to
the
community
and
having
this
conversation
with
us,
but
I
think
the
priority
here.
The
structural
concerns
are
safety
concerns
for
all,
but
the
priority
that
I'm
talking
about
is
the
lead
in
our
community
and
the
lead
that
our
children
are
exposed
to
and
our
children
matter
too.
That's
that's
my.
S
J
1996.96.
for
many
years,
but
even
in
the
90s
at
that
particular
time,
a
lot
of
the
steel
projects
that
I
had
worked
on,
they
were
still
going
through
cover.
You
know
there
were
so
many
different
paint
processes
and
procedures
and
Coatings
that
were
out
there
that,
rather
than
removing
the
lead,
they
would
actually
go
forward
and
encapsulate
the
love
with
a
new
steel,
new
paints
or
a
new
coating
system
and.
J
What
was
going
on
at
one
point
in
time?
It's
just
it's!
It
was
a
practice
that
was
undertaken
in
the
industry.
What
I
can
say
now
is
that
dot
doesn't
do
that
anymore,
and
now
we
do
full
removal
to
beer
steel,
and
you
know
you
have
a
steel
painters
sitting
right
there
in
front
of
you.
He
can
attest
it.
That's
how
we
do
all
of
our
operators
now.
J
G
I'm
glad
we're
bringing
children
into
the
discussion.
That's
come
from
a
number
of
different
I've
got
added.
Frustration
and
I
feel
it
in
the
group,
because
I
was
at
the
last
meeting
with
green
roots
and
D.O.T,
and
we
were
told
that
there
was
a
collaboration
between
MGH,
Health
Center
and
the
testing
your
children
and
Dot
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
a
report
has
been
given
to
Green
Roots,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Chelsea
about
the
children
and
what
their
lead
levels
are
now.
I
went.
C
J
G
Think
Regina's
point
I
can't
talk
to
someone
from
dph
at
the
next
knitting
is
critical.
You
also
said
that
you
did
do
soil
testing
I
was
around
in
the
80
85,
when
mass
port
authority
was
doing
that
soil
testing
and
they
removed
the
soil
six
inches
on,
because
a
lot
of
people
have
Gardens
in
Chelsea
and
it
just
wasn't
safe
Suffolk
County
Extension
was
advising
people
as
for
the
vegetables.
That
would
be
better
than
others.
You
said,
you've
done.
The
testing.
Have
you
handed
the
results
over
to
the
city
of
Chelsea
and
to
Green
roots.
J
J
G
J
F
F
F
Man
and
I'm
wondering
because
I
work
in
Chelsea
but
live
in
East
Boston,
so
I'm
dealing
with
colleagues
of
yours
when
it
comes
to
tunnels
and
situation.
The
Sumner
Tunnel
has
been
has
been
altered
since
they
first
presented
it
the
construction
cycles
and
yes,
so
they're
moving
things
up
and
speeding
it
up.
Yes
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
any
way
to
do
something
similar
here,
even
if
it
meant
squeezing
down
to
two
lanes
or
something
in
order
to
get
all
of
it
done
in
one
season.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
even
possible.
J
Yeah,
no,
it's
a
great
point.
It's
a
great
question:
I
mean
we
try
to
accelerate
projects
as
quickly
as
we
possibly
can,
if
there's
a
ways
and
a
means
to
accelerate
them,
sometimes
it
works
and
other
times
that
I'm
just
looking
backfire
in
the
last,
but
in
this
particular
instance
knowing
full
well
that
the
plans
summer
closures
for
this
summer,
the
weekends
and
then
next
summer,
again
potentially
next
summer.
J
Again,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
full
capacity
of
the
structure,
so
we've
clearly
told
the
contract
is
in
their
Provisions
that
they
shouldn't
assume
any
lane
closures.
They
may
be
interim
lane
closures
overnight
during
the
the
off
peak
hours,
when
the
blinds
are
at
the
lowest,
but
there'll
be
no
permanent
Lane
restrictions
just
to
ensure
that
we
have
full
capacity.
J
J
So
you
all
have
cell
phones,
I'm
sure,
nope
back
up
one
contacts
there
we
go
right
there.
So
if
you
send
anything
into
my
chief
engineer,
Carrie
LaValley
major
projects,
that's
me
so
please
forward
any
comments
that
you
have
to
the
chief
or
me
you'll,
come
to
me
anyway,
and
I
promise
you
we
will
respond
to
them.
J
J
In
as
they
walk
through,
I
think
Patrick
had
actually
picked
up
on
everybody.
If,
for
some
reason
you
slipped
by
and
you
didn't,
we
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
you
later.
So,
if
you
choose
to
leave
your
email
address,
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
contact
you
next
time,
we'll
be
out
here
doing
a
public
meeting.
J
J
So
there
is
no
schedule
right
now,
but
as
soon
as
there
is
it'll
be
on
National
T's
calendar
webpage
and
before
any
major
work,
that's
underway,
it
could
very
well
be
late
this
year
or
early
next
year
there
will
be
another
public
meeting
through
prize
folks
as
to
what
the
the
schedule
is
going
forward
with
that
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
very
much
appreciate
it.