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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeals of 6-13-23
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City of Chelsea
A
We're
just
waiting
for
him
okay,
so
this
is
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
and
today
is
the
13th
of
June
I'm
Janice
detarka
I
am
joined
by
other
excuse
me:
I
am
joined
by
other
board
members,
Joan
Cromwell,
Joseph,
Mahoney,
Maryland,
Vega,
Torres
and
Arthur
Arsenault,
and
you
all
know:
John
John,
depriest
and
Hector
Velez.
As
I
said
earlier,
we're
going
to
be
taking
things
slightly
out
of
order
because
we're
waiting
for
our
fifth,
our
additional
member,
our
sixth
member
Hugo.
A
We
need
four
people
to
vote
and
there's
a
couple
of
cases
where
people
weren't
here,
so
we
wouldn't
have
enough
people
to
vote
until
he
gets
here.
So
the
first
we're
going
to
take
very
one
thing
very
slowly.
Out
of
order,
202302
80,
Park,
Street,
chasing
Falls,
has
asked
to
be
moved
to
the
July
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
move
to
agree
to
move
that
to
a
July
meeting
a
motion
Joe
a
second
Maryland
all
in
favor
aye,
no,
okay,
okay,
we
have
three
yeses
and
an
abstain.
Well,
just.
A
Right,
okay,
all
right,
fine,
the
first
case
in
front
of
us
is
20
22,
36,
69,
71,
Spencer,
Ave
development,
for
a
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
for
the
conversion
of
an
existing
residential
structure
from
one
family
to
two
family
structure,
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirement
for
open
space
and
off-street
parking.
One
thing
I
want
to
remind
people
is
variance,
is
a
number
of
the
cases
today
will
deal
with
the
variances
variances
require
you
to
meet
four
very
specific
criteria.
A
B
C
C
C
I'll
have
David
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
plan,
but
in
brief
history,
Mike
lying
Mrs
zabage
owns
the
structure.
Next
to
it,
he
tore
down
the
structure
a
few
years
back.
It
built
a
brand
new
building,
also
a
large
multi-unit
building
to
the
left
of
it.
Adjoining
to
this
parcel
to
the
right
is
a
single
family
dwelling.
He
did
get
a
letter
from
the
butter
who
was
very
excited
about
his
project
and
did
review
the
plans
I
believe
that
was
filed
as
part
of
the
record
at
the
last
hearing
on
that.
C
C
But
since
then
we
did
talk
to
you
about
her
and
he
was
very
happy
with
the
plans
and
he
was
familiar
with
Mrs
abaj,
because
he
was
a
neighbor
on
the
other
property
and
I
also
would
know
one
of
the
concerns
they
had
just
so
I
can
bring
up.
Is
they
actually
wanted
more
multiple
bedrooms?
Two
three
four
bedroom
units-
and
this
project
here
is
consisting
of
11
one
bedrooms
and
four
two
bedrooms
by
right.
C
C
Two
of
those
will
now
be
affordable
units,
rather
than
one
unit
to
make
up
for
the
additional
units
that
are
being
requested
and
I
can
have
David
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
site
plan
and
as
far
as
the
system
now
that's
being
built,
we
do
have
now
eight
rows
of
occult
Tech
system
and
you
can
see
it
on
the
I
I
believe
John.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,.
C
This
area
here
is
all
call
talk
system
to
now
address
drainage,
that's
currently
not
on
site
whatsoever,
so
it'll
be
a
huge
Improvement
for
storm
water.
Nothing
whatsoever
is
coming
off
the
property.
It
will
stay
on
the
property
which
currently
everything,
of
course,
disperses
off
the
property.
The
building
has
two
stairwells
does
not
have
an
elevator,
because
it's
only
a
three-story
building.
C
It
has
Landscaping
on
this
side
around
the
whole
Frontage
in
an
area
on
this
front
corner
here
and
I
will
note
that
one
of
the
topics
was
as
far
as
snow
removal
is
concerned,
and
that
could
be
a
condition
if
this
was
approved,
that
all
the
snow
can
be
pushed
in
that
area
in
the
winter
time
and
whatever
is
left
over
if,
if
it's
taking
a
parking
spot
away,
you'd
have
to
remove
it
off
site.
My
client
manages
this
property
this,
as
he
does
next
door.
He
would
gladly
remove
the
snow.
C
He's
had
no
issues
in
the
past
and
he
expects
to
do
so.
There'll
be
15
parking
spaces
for
essentially
11
one
bedroom
units
and
four
two
bedroom
units
of
the
mix.
Show
you
have
a
mixture
of
two
bedroom,
one
bedroom
units
that
are
going
to
go
to
for
them
for
affordable
units
to
the
city
rather
than
two.
C
The
only
two
violations
I
believe
were
the
lot
size
which
would
trigger
12
units
rather
than
15
and
yeah,
which
goes
back
with
the
per
square
footage
per
unit,
which
is
950
and
it's
833
to
it
goes
hand
in
hand
with
the
loss
size.
So
pretty
much
the
same
once
you
trigger
one
violation:
yeah
you
trigger
that
violation.
At
the
same
time,
everything
else
is
Code,
Compliance
setbacks,
front
yard,
setbacks,
High
yacht
setbacks,
great
yeah
setbacks.
C
Everything
else
was
compliant
and
David
could
talk
about
the
elevations
and
the
view
of
the
building
and
a
little
bit
about
my
client's
history.
He
did
a
beautiful
building
next
door.
He
maintains
it.
He
built
it
a
few
years
back.
I
think
the
city's
well
aware
that
he
does
a
nice
product
and-
and
the
neighbors
were
excited
about
what
he's
doing
here,
because
they've
seen
how
he's
he's
not
like
one
of
those
typical
absentee
landlords,
he
actually
runs.
B
E
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
David
barsley
I'm,
the
architect
of
record,
for
this
project.
Can
we
go
back
to
the
I
mean?
So
we
know
this
is
a
15
unit
project
15
parking
spaces.
That's
the
site
plan,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
you
want
me
to
talk
about.
We
probably
best
for
me
to
answer
questions.
If
you
have.
C
A
C
A
B
The
planning
board
recommended
approval
with
standard
conditions,
design
review
a
lighting
plan,
no
rental
lease
or
sub
lease
of
less
than
12
months.
Tenants
of
the
building
ineligible
to
participate
in
the
city's
residence
took
a
parking
program
and
an
opaque
fence
along
the
Westerly
log
line.
Okay,.
A
This
so
why
it's
important
to
know
if
it's
gone
to
the
planning
board
is
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
this
tonight
so
because,
usually
we
have
to
send
the
planning
board,
but
they've
already
voted
on
this.
So
is
this
is
a
public
hearing?
This
will
be
your
only
opportunity
unless
well,
this
is
this.
Will
this
may
be
our
only
opportunity
to
speak
on
this?
So
is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter?
If
you
do,
please
come
forward.
A
Okay,
they
are
being
none.
I
am
closing
the
public
participation
portion
of
this
hearing
Mr
Rossi.
Would
you
like
to
go
through
the
conditions
of
the
variants?
Yes,
so
one
by
one,
the
variance
is
sought
because
of
soil
conditions,
shape
or
Topography
of
each
of
such
Lander
structure
and
especially
affecting
such
land
restructures,
but
not
affecting
generally
the
zoning
District
in
which
it
is
located.
This.
C
Is
pretty
simple
because
it's
similar
to
what
we
did
on
the
adjoining
property?
Because
the
property
is
entirely
in
a
flood
zone?
The
whole
entire
topography
has
to
change
in
order
to
be
compliant
with
flood
zone
requirements
as
far
as
Mechanicals
and
structure
whatsoever.
So
the
property
to
meet
the
setbacks
and
elevations
and
height
had
to
be
redesigned
in
order
to
make
flood
zone
requirements
to
have
residential
housing
on
the
property.
But
it's.
C
So
the
hardship,
not
just
Financial,
but
if
you,
if
you
didn't
make
it
compliant,
then
you'd
actually
have
to
bring
soil
grade
up
in
shape,
which
is
not
consistent
to
what's
actually
in
the
neighborhood.
But
the
financial
costs
of
new
pylons
is
to
go
above.
The
grade
will
be
far
substantial
than
a
normal
project
that
was
not
in
the
flood
zone.
A
C
Relief
would
not
be
detrimental
to
the
world,
but
God
even
to
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole,
because
it's
actually
consistent
to
what
was
built
in
surrounding
properties
in
the
flood
zone.
In
fact,
my
client
owns
the
adjoining
property
and
he
pretty
much
designed
the
building
in
the
same
shape,
so
it's
not
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood
or
that,
because
that's
actually
what
was
built
and
other
projects
to
be
compliant
in
the
flood
zone
and
it's
providing
affordable
housing
professionally.
True,
it
would
be
by
right.
C
Absolutely
because
it's
a
multi-family
District,
it
allows
multi-families
in
the
area.
It's
not
going
against,
what's
actually
been
approved
or
been
allowed
or
built
on
Spencer
Ave.
As
you
know,
there's
many
large
projects
on
Spencer
Ave,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
adjoining
property
beside
it.
So
the
relief
that's
being
granted
not
only
is
not
detrimental
It's,
actually
an
improvement,
and
it
also
offer
additional,
affordable
housing
units.
That's
well
needed
in
the
city.
A
B
Planning
Department's
recommendation
is
approval.
This
is
granting
more
affordable
housing
than
would
be
required
under
the
zoning
ordinance
and,
as
the
council
pointed
out,
is,
does
not
substantially
derogate
from
the
intent
of
the
zoning
and
we
recommend
the
conditions
that
were
listed
previously.
F
B
F
A
C
F
H
A
Let
me
just
make
sure
that
43
45
Blossom
Street
440
This
is
43
Blossom
Street
development
for
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
to
renovate
the
existing
four-family
structure,
containing
a
total
of
12
bedrooms
before
the
reconfiguration
of
space,
including
a
third
floor
Edition.
In
order
to
establish
a
sixth
dwelling
unit
structure
containing
a
total
of
12
bedrooms
which
does
not
meet
the
minimum
requirements
for
front
yard
setback,
off-street
parking
spaces,
lot,
size
and
side
yard
setback.
This
is
the
first
time
we'll
be
hearing
this,
so
we
will
not
be
voting
on
this.
C
C
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
brief
synopsis
and
the
architect
can
talk
more
in
detail.
I
know
this
is
just
the
initial
hearing,
so
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
brief
overview
and
not
going
through
terrible
detail
because
we're
going
to
be
going
through
the
planning
department.
But
initially
this
was
a
four
unit
project
the
building
caught
fire.
My
clients
acquired
the
building.
Essentially
there
we
work
with
the
city
regarding
design
and
development,
with
the
planning
department
to
now
do
six
units,
the
the
bedroom
count
will
not
change
it.
C
Just
will
be
separated
through
six
units.
The
height
of
the
building
will
actually
be
reduced
to
what
it
currently
is.
Today,
it's
just
going
to
be
more
economically
designed
and
more
efficient
to
what's
actually
being
needed
out
there
and
for
a
rental
project
and
the
actual
Aesthetics
of
the
exterior
of
the
building.
C
Of
course,
the
building
should
be
a
brand
new
building
because
it
was
it
had
a
fire
on
it
and
it's
going
to
be
now
sprinkler
fire
alarmed
and
all
put
up
to
code,
and
this
is
something
that
we
worked
with
time
with
the
planning
department
to
make
sure
this
is
a
product
that
they
wanted
to
see
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we
did
increase
the
height
of
the
building
and
we
did
keep
the
same
bedroom
count.
We
just
reduced.
C
We
increased
the
amount
of
units
from
four
to
six
on
its
basically
two
per
floor
and
I
will
have
the
architect
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
zoning
table
and
the
zoning
relief
that's
being
required.
But
it's
all
staying
in
the
same
footprint
of
what
is
existing.
We're
not
expanding
the
footprint
whatsoever,
we're
just
reconstrate,
where
it's
already
the
actual
shrinking
the
top
of
the
building,
we're
bringing
it
down.
It's
more
of
just
reconfiguration
of
the
inside
of
the
structure
itself.
I
Hello
good
evening,
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Daniel
Martinez
I'm,
with
kdi
I'll
present
to
you.
The
project
basically
Anthony
touched
on
most
of
the
main
aspects
of
the
project,
we're
looking
into
improving
the
property
after
it
burned
down,
for
example,
we're
providing
snow
bank
removal
on
the
parking
on
the
site
plan,
we're
also
providing
a
trash
enclosure,
we're
providing
access
to
the
basement
the
new
building,
as
Anthony
mentioned,
it
will
have
the
same
bedroom
count.
However,
it
will
have
more
units,
basically
the
the
existing
building
as
it
is
now.
I
Next
slide:
yep,
okay,
so,
as
we
can
see
here,
the
original
building
is
about
4
40
feet
with
11
inches.
Our
new
proposed
roof
will
be
about
33
1,
which
is
seven
feet
and
10
feet,
seven
feet
and
ten
inches
less
than
the
existing
Ridge
of
the
roof.
We're
proposing
on
providing
the
third
floor
will
be
architecturally,
contextual,
with,
what's
already
in
sight,
we're
proposing
you
know
architectural
features
that
will
accent
the
classical
design
of
the
building
and.
I
A
A
I
C
So
they
that
that
was
one
of
the
things
they
were
happy
about.
They're
also
happy
about
the
additional
parking,
so
we
actually
have
more
than
what
we
need
for
parking
and
my
clients
did
not
try
to
expand
the
footprint
on
that.
In
fact,
they're
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
detail
to
make
the
actual
outside
of
the
building
look
more
to
match
the
first
floor
in
the
second
floor
and
third
floor
instead
of
the
box
that
it
currently
looks
like
on
the
top
floor.
C
C
F
C
C
C
A
As
I
said,
this
will
not
be
the
only
opportunity
you'll
have
to
speak
on
this,
but
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
the
public.
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
there
being
none?
I
am
not
closing
this.
You
will
go
to
the
zoning,
the
planning
board
on
the
27th
and
back
here
on
the
11th.
Thank
you,
madam.
A
A
Yeah
I
was
gonna,
say
and
I
would
think
that,
and-
and
I
would
like
to
take,
there's
two
of
them
here
actually
in
2023-13,
which
is
also
81,
Library
Street,
also
by
the
same
petitioner,
and
they
are,
they
seem
to
be
commingled.
So,
while
we'll
address
them
we'll
vote
on
them
or
deal
with
them
as
two
separate
cases,
it
makes
sense
to
hear
it
in
total.
So
why
don't
you
fill
us
in
as
to
what's
planned
for
those
two
sure.
K
Good
evening
Madam
chair
members
of
the
board
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Richard
Linz,
with
the
business
address
of
245
Sumner
Street
in
East
Boston
on
behalf
of
Maria
text,
Sarah
who's,
the
petitioner
I
just
like
to
point
out
I,
did
receive
the
most
recent
updated
report
from
the
planning
department
and
I
apologize,
Mr
priest,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
an
error
in
the
description.
It
says
renovate
for
family
structure
containing
a
total
of
12
bedrooms.
A
Just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear,
so
you
know
it's
a
special
permit
variant
seeking
approval
for
the
subdivision
and
the
construction
of
two
two
residential
dwelling
unit
structures
which
does
not
meet
the
requirements
for
a
minimum
lot
size,
side,
setback
and
combined
side
yard
setback.
Existing
residence
lot
fails
to
meet
requirements
for
minimum
lot
size
side,
yard
setback
can
combined
required
side
yard
setback
lot.
A
83
Library
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
lot,
size,
front
yard,
setback,
side,
yard
setback,
off-street
parking
and
minimum
usable
open
space.
A
Lot
B,
85
Library
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
lot
side,
front
yard,
setback,
side,
yard
setback,
off-street
parking
and
minimum
usable
open
space
and
81.
The
description
on
81
is
also
for
for
a
special
permit
and
variance
seeking
approval
for
the
subdivision
of
an
existing
a
lot
to
allow
for
the
construction
of
2-2
residential
dwelling
unit
structures
at
83.85,
and
the
proposed
subdivision
at
81
does
not
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
lot,
size,
side,
yard
setback
and
combined
side
yard
setback.
A
K
You,
madam
chair,
is
that
the
correct
description,
yeah
I'm
glad
we
got
that
unpacked
for
the
record,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
did
provide
the
planning
department
with
the
slide
deck.
So
as
he's
waiting
to
get
that
up,
I'll
try
to
unpack
what
we're
hearing
seems
to
be
a
lot
going
on,
but
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
more
straightforward.
So,
with
respect
to
the
current
property,
there's
a
several
addresses
involved:
81
83
and
85
Library
Street,
81,
Library
Street.
K
For
all
intents
and
purposes,
existing
separately
assessed
lot
with
a
single
family
dwelling
on
it,
because
it
is
in
common
ownership
with
83
and
85
Library
Street,
the
parcels
of
D
merge
for
zoning
purposes
and
therefore
any
effort
to
subdivide
the
property
or
to
utilize
that
property
that
exists.
That's
presently
vacant
requires
relief
under
the
code
because
it
does
trigger
a
number
of
violations,
so
I
will
address
81
Liberation
first,
where
there
is
no
work
being
proposed
other
than
the
creation.
K
K
Because
it
would
meet
the
side,
yard
setback
and
doesn't
meet
minimum
lot
size
requirements,
so
it
is
merged
for
purposes
of
chapter
40a,
so
as
we're
waiting
for
that
I'll
try
to
walk
through
if
we
can
illustrate
a
little
bit
the
the
issues
that
are
involved
the
simpler
process,
our
project
is
the
81
Library,
which
is
the
existing
structure.
With
respect
to
that,
it
does
require
relief
for
several
items.
First
is
a
minimum
lot
size,
even
though
currently
the
lot
as
merged
would
comply
with
the
minimum
lot
size.
K
If
we
want
to
use
that
parcel
independently
of
the
vacant
lot,
we
only
would
have
2100
square
feet
and
therefore
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
5
000
square
foot
minimum
requirement.
In
addition,
because
the
side
yard
requirement
is
five
feet,
the
existing
conditions,
although
would
be
pre-existing
non-conforming
for
purposes
of
zoning
today.
Any
change
to
that
lot,
including
the
vacant
lot,
would
trigger
the
side
yard
requirements
so
on
the
right
side
of
our
property.
K
Once
we
see
it
on
the
plan,
we're
not
in
compliance
with
the
five
foot
setback
and
with
respect
to
the
left
side
as
well,
we
would
be
short
of
the
side
yard
requirements,
and
so
we
do
require
relief,
even
though
we
aren't
proposing
to
change
anything
with
respect
to
the
footprint
of
that
existing
building.
Simply
because
we
intend
to
use
the
larger
vacant
lot
for
development
purpose.
Here
we
go
so
if
we
can
jump
down
to
I
think
the
architectural
site
plan
is
probably
the.
A
K
A
K
A
A
L
K
Up
to
page
four,
that
just
gives
a
quick
site
overview,
so
we
can
see
the
neighborhood
context:
okay,
yeah,
so
just
giving
the
board
an
understanding
of
what
the
surrounding
context
looks
like
the
type
of
architecture
and
certainly
the
size
of
the
buildings.
What
we're
proposing
is
quite
contextual,
with
what
we
do
see
in
the
surrounding
vicinity.
If
we
can
try
to
open.
B
K
K
That
is
correct.
We
access
the
rear
of
the
property
by
a
common
driveway
that
would
be,
and
one
of
these
questions
that
come
up
in
the
planning
comments.
That
would
be
an
easement
that
would
be
recorded
in
the
registry
of
deeds
for
to
allow
joint
access
and
Joint
maintenance
with
respect
to
the
driveway.
Each
of
these
units
would
have
a
total
of
two
parking
spaces,
but
they're
arranged
as
a
tandem
spot,
so
John
the
next
yeah.
Maybe
the
next
page
would
would
give
us
a
site
plan
perfect.
K
K
So
we're
talking
earlier
about
81.
This
is
the
existing
structure
and,
as
you
can
see,
if
you
include
all
of
the
existing
vacant
lot,
it
certainly
would
comply
with
the
side
yard
requirement,
which
is
within
2.3
feet
of
the
assessed
property
line,
but
certainly
wouldn't
be
if
it
was
considered,
merge
with
the
other
lot.
So
that
is
one
of
the
items
that
we're
requesting
a
variance
on
the
on
the
existing
single
family.
We
also
have
a
non-conforming
condition
existing
on
the
right
side
for
the
New
Lots.
K
K
K
K
Correct
so
it's
10
feet
in
width,
but
the
separation
between
the
buildings
is
16
feet.
So
our
building
our
property
line,
comes
to
the
Middle,
with
an
eight
foot
setback
from
the
the
building
itself.
So
each
of
these
units
would
have
tandem
parking,
so
we
wouldn't
be
blocking
the
other
unit
owner
in
so,
for
example,
unit
two
would
have
perhaps
three
and
four
in
unit
one
with
one
and
two.
K
K
Enough
enough
room
to
to
back
the
vehicle
out
and
to
have
the
other
vehicle
move
and
again
the
easement
recovered
this
entire
area
in
between.
So
you
would
allow
for
maneuverability
as
well
as
access
to
the
back
of
the
property.
We
show
our
land
preliminary
Landscaping
here
and
I
do
believe.
We
provided
a
legend
to
the
planning
department,
as
well
as
to
the
type
of
species
that
we're
proposing
with
respect
to
that.
Yes,
if
we
want
to
jump
to
the
next
slide,
I
believe
that
is
the
floor
plan.
K
So
the
layout
pretty
much
repeats
for
both
buildings,
they're
they're,
identical
in
design,
the
lower
level
basement
level,
there's
no
habitable
space,
it's
strictly
for
storage
and
utility
when
we
get
up
and
again
these
are
side
by
side
showing
separated
by
a
party
wall.
The
first
level
shows
that
we
do
have
a
living
area
for
both
both
of
the
units.
When
we
get
up
to
the
second
floor,
we
have
two
bedrooms,
two
baths
and
then
a
primary
bedroom
on
the
third
level
service
by
primary
bath
as
well.
A
K
K
So
showing
our
elevations,
we
are
showing
these
as
they
present
as
three-story
buildings,
with
height
just
under
35
feet,
so
I
believe
we
are
in
compliance
with
what
the
requirements
are
for
that
of
that
District
I
can
run
through
all
of
the
relief
that's
necessary
for
these
two
buildings
as
well.
If
the
board,
unless
the
board
has
any
questions,
sorry.
K
So,
with
respect
to
the
minimum
wide
area,
it
does
require
3
500
square
feet
per
unit,
but
not
less
than
7
500
square
feet.
We
are
proposing
the
3390
square
feet
total
minimum
lot.
Size
is
3
500
per
unit
with
1695
square
feet
being
proposed,
so
there
is
relief
necessary
our
minimum
front
setback.
The
required
is
10
feet.
We
are
at
five
feet,
so
we
do
require
relief
for
that.
I
do
believe.
That
is
consistent.
K
However,
with
the
setback,
the
general
setback
along
that
side
of
the
street,
our
side,
yard
setback
is
one-fourth
of
the
building
height
or
eight
eight
feet.
Six
inches
we're
at
five
feet,
one
inch
on
the
outsides
of
each
of
the
buildings
so
on
both
the
far
right
and
the
far
left
of
each
of
the
proposed
structures
we're
at
5.1
feet.
We
do
have
eight
feet
in
the
middle
separating
both
buildings
as
well:
usable,
open
space.
K
K
And
then,
with
respect
to
parking
location,
we
have
not
within
five
feet
of
the
rear
lot
line,
which
we
obviously
are
proposing
parking
based
on
the
tandem
width
of
the
spaces,
not
within
five
feet
of
the
building
wall,
and
then
we're
proposing
tandem
space
and
that
repeats
for
both
buildings.
So
their
same
relief
would
be
necessary
of
both
variance
and
special
permit.
For
for
those
items,
I'll
pause
there
and
answer
any
questions
on
the
board.
J
K
K
A
K
A
K
A
B
B
K
So
I
guess
yeah
I
don't
get
too
far
in
the
wheat.
So
from
a
title
standpoint,
it's
done
all
the
time.
What
what
you'd
have
to
do
is
we
refer
to
it
in
the
conveyancing
practices
of
straw,
so
you
essentially
create
an
entity
holds
title,
and
then
you
have
that
entity,
Grant
Grant
instruments
back
out
and
reserve
the
easement
or
put
the
ease
just
just
record,
an
easement
from
that
entity
to
the
new
entity.
K
M
K
Yeah
easements
through
the
chair,
easements,
are
in
perpetuity.
So
when
you
create
the
ease
minutes
for
purposes
of
forever,
you
intend
to
create
different
purposes
of
ensuring
access
for
the
driveway
and
for
parking
and
when
the
instrument
is
recorded
in
the
registry
of
deeds,
it's
intended
to
run
with
the
land
forever.
So
it's
not
intended
to
be
a
set
period
of
time
is.
K
I
mean
it
would
make
good
practical
sense
that
if
you're
going
to
have
a
driveway,
that's
accessible
to
both
buildings,
you'd
want
to
record
that
and
clarify
what
the
rights
of
the
respective
parties
would
be.
Even
if
it's
the
same
ownership
at
the
end,
because,
as
the
chair
had
mentioned,
if
you
did
sell
one
building
off,
that
person
would
purchase
that
with
the
expectation
that
they'd
have
access
to
the
back
of
the
building.
That's.
K
M
A
Because
I
I'm
still
quite
I'm,
not
quite
understanding,
since
one
person
is
owning
it.
This
interest
in
particularly
in
in
separating,
if
she's,
going
to
rent
this,
if
she's
going
to
sell
them
I
understood.
Maybe
why
you'd
have
separate
lots
I'm,
just
not
quite
understanding
why
you're
you're
taking
83
and
85
and
splitting
it
in
half
I.
Don't
quite
understand
that
so
so.
K
If
I
may
there,
from
a
strategic
standpoint
from
and
again
going
back
to
title
financing
other
reasons,
sequencing
of
construction
when
they
may
happen
owning
this
as
a
four
unit,
townhouse
property
versus
two
two
units
certainly
has
an
impact
on.
You
know
how
you
can
go
about
your
financing,
how
about
you
how
you
can
go
about
structuring
financing
later
after
construction
and
for
us
it
seems
that
this
is
the
best
strategy
for
this
client
to
have
them,
as
as
separate
Lots,
separate.
A
K
A
A
But
is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
speak
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
if
you
want
to
wish
to
speak
on
83.85,
but
if
you
want
to
talk
about
81
at
the
same
time,
that's
fine,
but
is
there
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
speak
on
8385
Library
Street
there
being
none
will
gonna
this.
We
won't
close
up,
sir!
Please
come
and
name
yourself,
please
identify
yourself
and
your
name
and
address
please.
N
Pedro
florencino
51
Library,
the
one
thing
that
I
got
to
say,
is
being
an
owner
on
Library
Street.
When
you
go
over
from
garish
to
the
library,
you
see
the
difference
in
the
neighborhood
and
it's
because
cherish
has
been
developed.
So
I
think
that
when
we
look
at
improving
the
neighborhood,
we
definitely
need
to
make
changes
on
that
very
straight.
I
think
that
new
development
is
required
to
really
improve
the
transition
from
garage
Street
to
library,
Street.
A
H
K
K
Nothing
changes
with
what
you
see
with
respect
to
81,
as
it
sits
today,
including
the
assessed
parcel.
It's
really
just
because
of
the
I
like
to
refer
to
as
a
fiction
of
the
lot
itself
from
a
zoning
standpoint
once
they
do
come
in
common
ownership,
if
these
Lots
had
never
come
into
common
ownership.
Prior
to
you
know,
whenever
48
enacted
the
merger
Doctrine,
we
would
be
in
a
position
where
81
would
remain
as
a
pre-existing
non-conforming
structure
alone.
Conforming
lot
and
the
development
of
8385
would
be
done
separately
without
any
regard
to
81..
K
A
K
A
J
A
O
O
It's
12
by
17.,
more
parking
would
not
shouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
at
the
same
time
I
wouldn't
be
here
if
it
was
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street.
There's
no
parking
on
the
side
of
the
street
on
Grove
and
we
wouldn't
be
impeding
on
anybody
any
a
butter,
so
I
think
it's
I
think
I.
Think
it's
a
admirable
Quest.
B
An
issue
came
up
with
the
last
board
meeting,
or
my
report
indicated
that,
based
on
this
plan,
they're
appeared
to
be
only
six
feet
between
the
property
and
the
building.
With
the
petitions
permission,
I
went
I
actually
measured
it.
It
actually
comes
out
to
be
10
feet
at
this
point
and
14
feet
up
here.
So
that's
plenty
of
room
to
get
vehicles
in
there
and
it's
about
30
feet
in
length.
So
you
can
probably
squeeze
two
and
be
very
tight,
but
you've,
probably
squeezed.
M
P
J
P
O
Well,
I
think
that
you
know
you
ease
out
of
any
driveway
anyway,
but
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
a
problem.
I
mean
there's
a
speed
bump,
maybe
20
feet
up,
slows
the
traffic
down
and
I.
Don't
know,
I
I
think
that
someone
could
back
in.
We
could
back
into
that
driveway
and
drive
out
and
get
a
good
view.
P
Q
Q
F
B
B
M
Q
M
M
O
J
B
M
The
board
agrees
with
it:
yes,
yes,
okay,
all
right,
a
little
enforcement
of
the
provisions
of
this
chapter
would
involve
a
substantial
hardship,
Financial
otherwise
to
the
petitioner.
If
you
didn't
have
the
parking
lot,
you
probably
couldn't
rent
like
John's,
you
couldn't
rent,
couldn't
couldn't
get
people
to
rent
this.
The
apartment
correct
is
that
is
that
true?
Yes,
okay!
Does
the
board
agree
with
that.
M
O
F
F
Okay,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
for,
to
approve
case
number
20,
23-06,
1517,
Grove,
Street,
James,
yamiko
Jr
for
a
special
permit
and
variant
seeking
approval
for
application
for
a
driveway
opening
permit,
which
does
not
meet
requirement
for
front
yard
setback
sideline
with
the
standard
conditions,
and
if
we
could,
could
we
add
signage
or
a
mirror
there,
just
for
the
people
that
are
exiting
and
entering
and
people
have
done
it.
Yes.
Can
we
add
that?
Yes,
yes,
that.
F
M
B
D
S
A
R
R
So,
a
few
months
ago,
Mr
Meads
asked
me
to
come
back
and
start
revisiting
the
permits
we
submitted
some
documentation
to
Mr
depriest
and
he
was
very
helpful
in
getting
us
to
get
back
to
the
Conservation
Commission
and
extend
the
order
of
conditions.
But,
as
you
know,
the
special
permit
has
elapsed.
So
we
refiled
with
Zuma
of
appeals
came
back
made
another
presentation.
We
were
supposed
to
be
before
the
planning
board
again
for
a
recommendation.
We
had
the
dates
mixed
up,
so
we
did
not
get
there.
R
It
was
not
because
we
didn't
care.
I
was
not
aware
that
we
had
the
dates
mixed
up,
but
it
sounds
to
me
like
it
wasn't
a
a
huge
problem.
Wasn't
for
any
fault
of
the
project
that
type
of
thing
so
I
spoke
with
John
and
he
said
well
just
come
back
to
the
zba
and
let's
just
explained
that
it
was
just
a
a
miscommunication
and
come
back
before
and
ask
for
any
feedback
that
you
have
so
just
to
recap.
This
is
going
to
be
the
site
for
Rapid
flow.
R
It's
basically,
where
he's
going
to
store
his
trucks
and
have
his
office,
the
site
is
entirely
within
the
flood
zone.
It's
going
to
be
constructed
with
flood
zone
Construction
we're
asking
for
relief
on
parking,
but
the
normal
parking
numbers
don't
really
apply
to
this
project.
So
it's
going
to
go
from
25
down
to
10..
There
was
a
typo
that
Mr
dupriest
pointed
out
in
my
application.
I
wrote
down
21,
so
we
can
cure
that
with
the
decision.
R
There
is
also
going
to
be
a
little
reduction
in
the
width
of
the
aisles
from
24
feet
to
22
feet,
and
we
asked
for
some
parking
within
five
feet
of
the
lot
lines
we're
entirely
within
the
li2
district,
which
means
we're
basically
surrounded
by
commercial
properties.
We
back
up
to
the
railroad,
so
there
won't
be
any
detriment
or
really
any
non-harmony
with
the
neighborhood
with
this
project
is
anything
it'll
be
a
a
good
project
right
now,
the
law
this
is
basically
vacant.
R
B
M
R
R
R
R
R
R
I'm
not
100
sure,
because
I
think
it's
normal
hours
of
operation
are,
you
know,
probably
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning
till
4
30,
but
they
do
a
lot
of
emergency
calls,
especially
around
the
cities,
and
you
know
clogged
drains
clogged
sewers.
That
type
of
thing
somebody
might
get
a
call
with
an
emergency.
They
need
to
go.
M
R
You
can
have
there's
12,
basically
six
Bays
on
either
side
of
the
tee,
which
would
be
where
the
equipment
goes
and
then
any
employees
that
might
come
here
and
stuff
like
that
they
can
park.
They'll,
they'll
Park
their
vehicle
go
grab,
one
of
the
big
work
trucks
go,
do
the
job
come
back
and
then
leave.
B
R
Further
now
yeah
Mark
he
had
he
had
a
piece
of
property
up
the
street
a
little
bit
and
he
was
waiting
I
believe
he
sold
that
and
then
he
he
was
waiting
to
build
this
project
like
I,
said
2018
2019
and
then
you
know
the
bottom
kind
of
fell
out
and
then
he's
been
building
the
business
back
up
again.
I
think
to
the
point:
where
now
he
can
secure
a
construction
loan
which
is
good.
R
I,
don't
recall
and
I
know
that
we
had
talked
I,
think
one
other
time
about
signage.
So
I,
don't
know
at
this
point.
I
think
you
do
have
a
Sign
by
law
in
town
that
we
have
to
comply
with
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
Joe
I'm
a
bill
will
tell
me
but
I
don't
remember
if
we
need
a
separate
permit
for
a
sign
at
this
point.
R
M
M
Jones
will
just
have
like
any
questions
that
he
was
not
able
to
answer
will
make
it
as
a
condition
to
to
approve
it
just
so
that
he
so
that
we
have
the
answers
and
we'll
have
John
get
those
back
to
us.
You
know
the
I
think
at
the
hours
of
operation.
We
that's
a
good
question
to
ask
right
so,
but
we
can
we
can
vote
right
all
right.
Why
don't
we
do
that?
Then.
F
M
A
With
this
ordinance,
Lot
1
proposed
subdivided
lot
to
contain
proposed
to
family
structure
which
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
Frontage,
minimum
side,
yard
setback,
minimum
combined
yard
setback,
minimum
number
of
stories,
maximum
height
and
required
parking
space
property
line
buffer
Lot
2
proposed
subdivided
lot
to
contain
existing
three
family
structure,
which
fails
to
meet
the
requirements
for
minimum
Frontage,
min
minimum
side,
yard
setback,
minimum
lot,
size,
minimum
open
space
and
minimum
combined
side
yard
setback
again.
This
is
the
first
time
we'll
be
hearing
this,
so
we
will
not
be
deciding
on
this
today.
A
K
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
Madam
chair
members
of
the
board
again
Richard
Lynn's
245,
Sumner
Street,
the
East
Boston
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner
with
me,
is
Richard
belivo
from
122
Warren
VG
LLC,
who
is
the
owner
of
the
property
at
122,
124,
Warren
Ave.
With
respect
to
this
proposal.
Some
of
the
members
may
remember
this
project
from
some
time
back
when
this
is
before
the
board
for
a
very
similar
proposal.
We
have
made
some
updates
to
that
proposal.
That
was
originally
presented,
just
a
quick
overview
of
what
we're
talking
about,
maybe
jump
John.
K
K
We
would
take
the
new
lot,
which
is
approximately
7
600
square
feet
and
proposed
to
construct
a
new
two
unit
dwelling
and
we
are
proposing
to
include
substantial
landscaping
around
the
site.
Improvements
for
drainage,
as
well
as
a
total
of
seven
parking
space.
I
know
in
the
comments
from
the
planning
department,
there
were
some
questions
regarding
the
types
of
plans
that
were
submitted
and
whether
or
not
the
parking
was
going
to
be
all
in
one
lot
or
two
lots.
K
I
can
clarify
that,
certainly
for
the
board,
with
the
plans
that
we've
provided,
so
we
can
jump
to
the
next
slide.
We
can
review
some
of
the
site
context,
so
quick,
bird's
eye
overview
of
the
existing
structure,
and
you
can
see
to
the
left
side
the
lot
in
the
area
that
we
are
proposing
to
subdivide
for
the
new
two
family
dwelling
next
slide.
Please
bird's
eye
view
of
the
site
again,
the
existing
three
family
structure
located
to
the
far
right
and
the
land
located
to
the
right
side
of
the
property
for
the
new
two.
Yet.
K
K
Another
view
just
to
give
you
a
different
context
again
this
and
this
slide.
It
would
be
on
the
right
side
of
the
existing
structure
that
we've
identified
with
the
Red
Dot
next
slide.
Please
street
view
showing
the
existing
structure
again.
This
is
a
pre-existing
three-family
dwelling
that
will
remain.
There
have
been
some
updates
to
this
building.
I
know
there
was
some
Renovations
that
were
done.
The
bull
the
building
is
fully
leased.
K
Tenants
are
living
there
currently
there's
no
displacement
in
connection
with
our
proposal,
as
we
would
not
be
making
any
modifications
to
this
building
itself
other
than
the
exterior
for
landscaping
and
parking,
and
some
updates
to
the
drainage
next
slide.
Please
different
view
looking
up
up
Warren,
so
you
can
see
the
right
side
of
our
building
as
well
as
the
area
that
would
be
proposed
to
be
redeveloped.
Next
slide
a
head-on
view
of
the
existing
structure.
Next
slide,
existing
got
me
nervous
here.
K
John
existing
slide
I
mean
existing
conditions
in
topography,
showing
the
slope
of
our
site,
I'm
sure,
as
the
board
may
be
familiar,
the
site
does
slope
pretty
significantly
from
Warren
down
towards
the
back
property
line.
So
there
is
a
good
deal
of
site
work
that
would
be
involved
as
well
as
updates
for
drainage
next
slide,
please.
K
This
is
probably
where
I'll
grab
the
mic
and
walk
over.
So
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
looking
at
here,
and
this
addresses
certainly
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
by
planning.
So
we
do
have
similar
the
other
presentation.
I
made
a
common
driveway
that
would
be
able
to
access
the
rear
area
for
parking.
K
We
did
have
a
couple
of
different
iterations
of
this
plan
that
showed
a
total
of
seven
parking
spaces
on
the
proposed
subdivided
site
behind
the
new
two
family,
in
consultation
with
the
civil
engineer,
and
certainly
the
amount
of
work
that
has
gone
into
this
for
drainage.
Improvement
has
resulted
in
us
making
a
change
that
we
would
have
four
parking
spaces
on
site
which
would
be
compliant
for
the
proposed
new
two
family.
A
K
K
Probably
jump
down
one
more
than
this,
so
walking
through
the
floor
plans.
This
is
our
lower
level
plan
and
when
we
get
to
the
elevations
we'll
see
how
this
relates
to
the
actual
elevation
of
the
building,
because
of
the
slope
from
Warren
down
to
the
back
of
the
property
we
do
have.
You
know
a
good
amount
of
space
to
actually
bring
a
full
walkout
level
at
that
what
would
be
considered
the
basement
level?
K
K
K
K
So
as
we
move
up
the
building,
our
full
first
first
level
plan,
which
would
be
living
area
and
additional
bedroom
for
that
lower
level
unit,
that
would
be
all
part
of
unit.
One
unit
two
starts
on
level
two,
and
then
we
have
additional
bedrooms
on
the
upper
level
shown
here,
which
would
be.
We
call
our
level
three
plan,
but
I
believe
we're
identifying
this
as
a
four-story
building
based
upon
the
grade
of
the
site
and
how
much
of
the
building
is.
H
K
But,
as
you
can
see
from
our
right
side
elevation,
you
do
have
that
condition
where
the
slope
from
Warren
down
to
the
back
of
the
property
is
pretty
significant
and
you
do
have
that
full
walkout
condition
for
that
lower
level
living
space,
which
is
part
of
unit
one.
We
show
the
Dormer
that
is
oriented
to
the
right
side
of
the
building
that
allows
for
a
better
ceiling
height
in
that
upper
level,
where
we
did
show
the
primary
bedroom
for
that
upper
level
unit
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
showing
our
rear
elevation
along
with
our
left
elevation
again,
you
can
see
that
sloping
condition
coming
down
towards
the
back
of
the
property
and
then,
as
we
indicated,
it
does
present
as
four
stories
to
the
rear.
However,
this
is
largely
in
part
due
to
the
slope
of
the
site
itself.
Had
the
site
been
level
with
Warren,
most
of
that
area
would
either
be
below
grade
and
certainly
not
present
as
four
stories
next
slide.
Please
yeah.
K
So
we
do
have
our
elevation
and
we
included
this
to
sort
of
illustrate
more
of
the
architectural
design.
I
wouldn't
say
that
the
proximity
to
the
existing
building
is
entirely
accurate.
I
think
he
was
just
trying
to
keep
this
as
close
to
scale
as
possible.
We
can
have
him
update
the
rendering
itself,
but
just
to
give
an
idea
of
perspective
of
what
this
would
look
like
from
Warren.
That
is
the
the
proposed
rendering
concept
next.
K
K
One
of
the
other
planning
comments
was
what
was
the
grade
of
our
parking
area
located
behind
our
existing
three
family.
We
have
shown
here
on
the
top
include
the
toppo
lines
for
that
grade,
so
it
does
gently
slope
back
towards
the
back
of
the
property,
but
this
has
been.
This
has
been
designed
to
be
assistant
with
not
only
State
Building
Code,
but
the
requirements
are
comments
from
DPW
next
slide.
Please.
K
Just
some
other
technical
data
for
the
drainage.
We
wanted
to
include
that
as
our
in
our
packet,
but
we
could
certainly
jump
back
to
if
there's
any
specific
questions
next
slide.
Please
and
just
are
rendering
a
little
bit
more
up
close,
so
I
will
pause
there
and
ask
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
of
the
board
that
we
can
run
through
what
the
specific
relief
is.
That
would
be
necessary.
A
K
Since
the
last
meeting-
and
we
did-
we
did
hear-
obviously
the
significant
concern
from
Neighbors
in
a
Butters
and
I've
instructed
my
client.
You
know,
as
we
do
with
most
projects
when
there's
that
level
of
concern
to
go
out
and
try
to
have
that
Outreach
with
those
neighbors.
He
has
tried
to
do
that.
Unfortunately,
the
level
of
resistance
on
having
a
conversation
was
pretty
strong
and
there's
been
multiple
attempts
to
outreach
to
different
different
Neighbors
in
the
butters
who
don't
seem
interested
in
having
any
type
of
development
at
this
site.
K
T
This
proposal
will
allow
us
to
have
better
storage
in
around
the
site,
so
now
we'll
be
able
to
have
trash
storage
around
the
rear
at
the
current
state,
there's
a
very
steep
driveway
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
there's
really
nowhere
to
properly
keep
the
barrel.
So
the
barrels
are
kept
out
front.
But
in
this
proposal
we'll
now
have
behind
the
property,
be
able
to
have
trash,
storage
and
removal
for
both
properties.
T
T
So
it
would
be
a
a
split
agreement
between
the
rental
property
and
then
the
condos
is
which
we're
proposing.
So
we
deal
with
this
a
lot,
so
the
condo
association
typically
would
would
hire
the
snow
removal
company
and
then
there'd
be
some
type
of
invoice
to
the
three
family,
but
it'd
be
a
working
together
on
it.
B
A
Okay,
as
I
said
I'm
going
to
open
this
to
the
public.
This
is
not.
We
will
not
be
deciding
this
tonight.
It
will
go
in
front
of
the
planning
board
on
the
27th
and
back
here
on
July
11th.
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
matter?
Please
give
your
name
and
address
and
please
speak
into
the
microphone.
H
Leo
Robinson
city
council
are
also
in
a
butter
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
this
proposal,
when
I
refer
back
to
what
the
chair
person
referred
to
in
the
beginning,
pursuit
to
section
34,
a
a
no
lot
on
what
you're,
building
existing
or
erected
shall
be
altered
and
no
structure
shall
be
rearranged
so
as
to
create
or
increase
non-conformance.
With
this
ordinance,
this
proposed
development
feels
to
meet
the
reference
standards.
H
If
we
look
at
the
conditions
in
section
34-213c
have
concerns
that
it's
not
a
unique
parcel.
There's
concerns
around
intensity.
The
neighbors
do
not
want
it.
There
was
never
a
plan
presented
to
the
neighbors.
We
see
no
hardship
in
this
matter.
We
feel
it's
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood
and
they're
looking
for
10
variances
and
five
special
permits.
H
H
A
You
and
let
me
actually
read:
I,
have
two
two
emails
that
are
relevant
to
this.
One
is
hello:
my
property
70
Prescott
Ave,
is
behind
the
prospective
122
Warren
Ave
build.
Currently
my
property
experience
is
excessive
water
in
the
basement,
and
it's
due
to
the
drainage,
during
rainy
and
snowy
weather,
coming
downhill
from
Warren
Ave
I'm
concerned
that
the
plans
to
store
water
in
a
holding
tank
and
allowing
it
to
drain
over
time
will
contribute
to
an
increase
in
the
water
coming
downhill
into
my
property
I'm.
A
Asking
that
this
be
considered
when
voting
as
I
am
worried,
it
may
impact
the
foundation
of
my
home
respectfully
Aaron
Griffin,
and
we
have
another
one
from
Christina
and
Peter
Malloy,
who
are
at
74
Prescott
Avenue.
My
husband
and
I
are
Chelsea
resident
homeowners
at
74,
Prescott
Ave
and
it
Butters
to
122
Warren
Ave.
We
will
not
be
able
to
attend
the
hearing.
This
was
for
the
original
May
9th
hearing,
but
we
are
proposed
to
the
this
proposal
opposed
to
this
proposal.
A
U
U
U
U
It's
interesting
that
one
gentleman
who's
also
a
resident
and
a
homeowner.
That's
here
on
another
project,
requested
in
hopes
that
his
neighborhood
could
be
improved
by
one
project.
Well,
we
are
requesting
that
our
neighborhood
not
be
further
destroyed
by
the
same
absentee
landlord.
Who
is
the
only
one
in
our
immediate
area,
so
I
ask
that
you
please
consider
the
residents
who
have
established
residency
for
30
plus
years
Who
Remain
there
present
every
day
spend
money
keeping
up
their
property,
unlike
the
petitioner.
Thank
you
thank.
V
V
Been
on
his
feet
for
35
years
and
as
somebody
that
lives
across
the
street
from
a
40
unit
apartment
building
and
the
elevation
has
been
addressed,
we
live
on
a
hill
off
the
right
side
of
Warren.
Ave
is
sloped
in
the
back
out
of
the
40
units
on
the
in
our
department
building
half
of
them
park
on
the
street.
V
It's
been
addressed
by
the
the
developer
they're
not
going
to
park
in
the
back
they're
going
to
park
on
the
street
parking
is
a
premium
in
the
city,
especially
on
Warren
Avenue,
so
I'm
against
it.
My
neighbors
are
against
it
and
there's
no
hardship.
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
this
project
going
forward
this!
This
122
was
a
three
family
house
that
they
basically
want
to
do
is
build
two
condominiums
in
somebody's
side
yard.
That.
V
That
it's
not
it's
not
a
a
buildable
lot,
it
was
somebody's
yard
and
they
want
to
build
two
condos
in
it.
It's
it's
congested
enough
up.
There
they're
going
to
get
eight
townhouses
with
the
new
Soldiers
Home
developers
going
to
go
right
up
in
that
parking
spot
as
soon
as
you
make
The
Descent
down
to
Warren
Ave.
So
it's
congested
enough.
It's
going
to
get
more
congested,
I'm,
an
old
for
this
project
and
I.
Also
the
planting
board
takes
it
on
their
advisement.
Thank.
W
J
W
Parking
lot
in
the
back.
If
you
go
down
to
the
property
and
you
see
how
the
slopes
goes
down
and
it
goes
around
when
the
winter
comes
and
the
plow
comes
down
where's
he
going
to
plow
the
snow
he's
going
to
plow
it
over
the
wall
into
the
next
person's
property,
also
I'm
home
every
single
day,
I'm
retired
I'm
home
every
day.
W
W
The
drainage
in
there
is
from
what
I
understand
there's
a
spring
underneath
all
that
property
and
when,
when
you,
when
it
rains
really
bad.
If
you
drive
up
the
street,
you
can
see
the
water
coming
through
the
sidewalk,
because
the
spring
fills
up
and
then
there's
no
place
for
it
to
go,
but
through
the
sidewalk
and
the
street
where
it
meets
all
down
the
street.
W
So
what
they're
saying
is
they're
going
to
put
a
500
gallon
tank
or
something
there,
but
when
they
release
that
water
where's
it
going
to
go
it's
going
to
go
down
the
street
until
the
properties
and
then
it's
going
to
be
flooded
even
more
I.
Don't
think
he's
worried
about
that.
I
think
he's
worried
about
how
much
money.
W
And
that's
happening
everywhere,
not
just
in
Chelsea,
it's
everywhere
also
to
take
care
of
the
like
the
trash
and
everything.
If
you
go
out
there
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
you
will
see
the
Coyotes
out
there
ruffling
through
the
trash,
even
if
he
puts
the
trash
in
the
back.
You
think
those
people
people
that
live
there
are
going
to
worry
about
the
trash.
Of
course,
they're
not
going
to
worry
about
it.
All
it's
going
to
do
is
bring
animals
into
rats.
Raccoons
coyotes,
it's
going
to
bring
it
into
it.
We
have
a
fantastic
neighborhood.
W
We
want
to
keep
it
that
way,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
the
people
that
want
to
build
they're
not
worried
about
that
they're
only
worried
about
their
pocket.
Well,
I'm,
worried
about
where
I
live,
I
have
a
family.
We
take
very
good
care
of
our
property.
My
neighbors,
our
property,
is,
if
you
could
drive
down
the
street
you'll
see
and
that
our
property
is
so
taken
care
of
this.
W
Also,
if
you
put
a
four
bedroom
there
and
I
move
in
there
and
I
need
someone
to
help
me
with
the
rent,
also
I
rent
one
room
to
this
kid
one.
This
forecast
for,
if
there's
four
rooms
and
four
grown-ups
living
there,
everybody's
gonna
have
a
car.
So
what
are
you
going
to
put
four
cars
from
one
apartment?
Four
cars
from
another
apartment?
You
only
got
four
of
his
pocket
spots.
It's
it's
just
it's
just
it's
not
a
place
to
put
that
kind
of
a
house
there
or
anything.
W
It's
been
like
this
for
the
longest
time.
The
gentleman
that
owned
the
house
before
with
him
was
a
police
officer
in
Chelsea
he
kept
his
first
impeccable.
It
was
always
well
maintained,
not
anymore.
Ever
since
this
gentleman
took
over
the
property,
it's
a
and
I'm
sorry
to
say
that,
but
that's
what
it
looks
like
and
I
don't
want
to
look
at
when
I
invest
the
money
that
I
do
into
my
property.
I,
don't
want
to
look
at
that
every
single
day,
I'd,
rather
just
leave
it
there
the
way
it
is
it's
nothing
wrong
with
it.
W
X
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
Patricia
O'flaherty
and
I
reside
at
87,
Warren
Ave,
a
lifelong
resident
of
Chelsea
and
for
the
record
I
joined
my
neighbors
in
opposition
to
this
proposal.
Warren
is
zoned
so
as
not
to
allow
this
type
of
development.
Warren
Ave
has
been
and
will
continue
to
be
for
the
foreseeable
future,
a
neighbor
to
the
biggest
Redevelopment
project
in
recent
Chelsea
history,
which
is
the
construction
of
the
new
Veterans
Hospital
in
the
additional
development
plan
for
the
next
few
years.
X
X
The
residents
and
the
neighbors
were
in
opposition
before,
and
they
continue
to
be
against
this
project.
Any
concerns
by
the
developer
were
one's
only
temporary
in
nature,
and
that
seems
like
what's
happening
once
again.
For
these
reasons,
and
for
the
record,
please
add
me
as
well
as
many
of
our
neighbors,
who
are
not
here
in
opposition
to
this
proposal.
It
doesn't
really
make
any
sense
when
you
think
about
it
if
they
have
a
property
and
they
don't
take
care
of
it
correctly.
X
Like
the
other
neighbors
say
it's
like
inconceivable
to
me
in
most
cities
and
towns,
they
would
look
at
the
project
that
they
have
I
mean
the
property
and
they've
been
fined,
there's
all
kinds
of
things,
so
you
have
to
just
take
that
into
consideration.
It's
not
just
a
an
output
of
like
oh,
we
don't
want
something.
Listen.
We
grew
up
here
in
Chelsea.
We
all
know
it
can
be
loud.
X
A
D
A
T
T
A
T
So
these
tanks
are
larger
than
you
would
see
in
a
storm
in
100
years
to
hold
the
water
and
then
slowly
release
it,
and
so
this
will
vastly
improve
the
water
concerns
that
we
heard
from
the
neighbors
in
their
basements
and
all
that
in
the
rear
properties.
This
will
this
will
help
that
problem
not
hurt
it.
P
K
B
F
B
J
J
B
B
K
And
through
the
chair
so
conforming
use
that
to
family,
so
it
isn't
allowed
use
in
the
district
and
at
least
7
500
square
feet
which
we
have
7
600.
So
it
does
beat
the
minimum
lot
size
and
the
use
that's
proposed
and
I
would
just
like
Madam
chair
if
I
may
just
address,
we
did
hear
in
addition
to
drainage
parking
as
being
a
concern
and
I
know.
K
Mrs
depriest
indicated
there
were
some
parking
issues,
but
we
are
proposing
four
spaces
for
the
two
units
on
the
lot
with
the
proposed
two
family,
the
code
requires
two
spaces
per
unit
and
I
understand.
You
know
not.
What's
in
the
speculation
that
you
know,
if
you
have
X
number
of
bedrooms
that
there
may
be
more
cars,
the
zoning
code
says
too
we're
complying
with
what
the
zoning
code
requires,
but
I
think
more
significantly.
K
We
should
also
point
out
that
we're
adding
three
parking
spaces
on
the
existing
lot
which
don't
exist
presently,
so
the
concerns
that
we
did
here,
you
know
the
tenants-
are
parking
on
the
side,
we're
not
disputing
that,
maybe
an
issue
or
problem,
but
there's
no
ability
to
park
on
the
site
presently
because
of
the
slope
and
the
way
it's
oriented.
We
would
be
improving
that
condition
Mission
and
allowing
for
parking
not
associated
with
the
two
family,
but
with
the
three
family
on
the
three
family
lot.
T
Yeah
and
one
concern
was
regarding
the
cars
not
being
able
to
get
back
in
there,
and
that
was
one
thing
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
civil
engineer
on
was
what
the
proper
grading
was
per
the
code
so
that
we
could
lay
out
the
parking
spaces
in
a
way
so
that
it
wouldn't
be
too
steep
of
a
driveway.
So
what
you
see
here
is
we
brought
the
parking
forward
and
then
we
have
the
double
retaining
walls
in
the
back.
K
A
K
K
Q
J
K
A
J
A
Y
Them,
oh,
that
close
Okay,
so
Elaine
chittopoulos
is
with
me
she's
Stella,
Lewis's
daughter,
unfortunately,
Miss
Lewis's,
elderly
infirmed
in
a
nursing
home,
but
Elaine
is
here
pursuant
to
a
durable
power
of
attorney.
So
this
is
the
situation
where
there
was
a
rat
problem
in
the
yard.
A
budding
125,
Ash,
Street
and
Mr
chopoulos
went
ahead
and
paved
the
border
around
the
fence
that
was
previously
dirt,
where
the
rats
were
coming
in
then
found
out
afterwards
that
she
needed
a
permit
to
do
that.
Y
So
she's
trying
to
make
the
best
of
an
uncomfortable
situation,
leave
to
leave
the
paving
there
put
in
six
marked
parking
spaces
which
is
what's
required
for
the
three
family
building
at
125,
Ash
Street
there's
some
parking
relief
required
because
the
spaces
would
be
eight
and
a
half
feet
wide,
not
nine
feet
wide
and
the
aisle
would
be
approximately
17
feet,
not
24
feet.
The
other
compromise
is
that
it's
significantly
compromises
the
open
space,
but
it's
one
or
the
other.
Really
in
that
area.
Y
M
B
The
special
the
planning
board
recommend
it's
approval
with
standing
conditions,
as
applicable,
curbing
to
identify
those
areas
where
parking
is
not
permitted,
meaning
five
feet
from
the
sidelot
line
and
not
within
the
front
yard.
Set
back
and
tenants
of
the
building
will
be
ineligible
to
participate
in
the
city's
residence
sticker
parking
program.
M
P
Y
The
parking
spaces
it's
already
been
done-
this
was
the
problem,
is
that
Mr
topless
does
not
know
she
needed
a
permit
to
just
pave
that
area.
There
were
no
changes
to
the
actual
area.
There
were
no
structures
built,
it
was
just
Paving
what
used
to
be
a
dirt
area
that
was
part
of
that
lot.
The
property
is
made
up
of
three
lots
that
are
I,
think
1450
square
feet.
Y
Each
the
house
sits
on
one,
the
other
two
always
made
up
the
yard
and
the
area
around
the
perimeter
was
not
paved,
but
that's
where
the
rats
were
coming
in
and
it
was
just
an
untenable
situation.
So
this
seems
to
be
a
reasonable,
unfortunately,
compromise
it
takes
cars
off
the
street
and
there's
really
no
parking
in
that
area
anyway.
So
it
takes
cars
off
other
streets,
it
cleans
up
the
area
and
it
gets
rid
of
the
rats
they
can't
come
through
under
the
paved
area
under
the
fence.
Y
G
X
J
Y
Y
Starting
with
the
soil
conditions,
topography
Etc,
the
soil
conditions
themselves
were
leading
to
the
rat
problem,
so
that's
been
solved
by
the
paving
issue.
Also,
there's
really
there's
no
other
land
available
to
provide
for
open
space
and
parking.
So
on
balance,
it
just
seemed
that
the
parking
was
the
best
way
to
go
in
this
case.
Also,
if
you
look
at
the
neighboring
Lots
we've
provided
some
pictures,
the
neighbors
have
pretty
much
done
the
same
thing
and
they
use
the
lot
paved
or
not
as
open
space.
Y
Okay
and
again,
as
I
said,
the
open
space
while
it's
reduced
or
almost
eliminated,
the
neighbors
have
found
a
way
to
to
work
around
that
there
are
pictures
with
the
petition
of
neighbors
having
parties
and
whatever
in
the
areas,
and
it's
just
what
the
neighborhood
is,
the
also
the
only
other
abutting
property
there
is
Rent-A-Center
and
I
believe
we
presented
a
picture
also.
That
just
shows
a
trash
strewn
lot
on
the
other
side
of
petitioner's
fence.
A
This
is
a
special
permit,
invariance,
seeking
approval
for
the
demolition
of
a
garage
structure
and
a
residential
structure
and
the
construction
of
a
four
unit,
dwelling
structure
which
does
not
meet
the
city
of
Chelsea's,
zoning,
ordinance
for
minimum
side,
yard
setback,
front
yard,
setback,
lot,
size,
rear
yard,
setback
and
combined
side,
yard
setback,
maximum
floor
area
ratio
and
a
lot
coverage.
And
again
this
is
the
first
time
we'll
be
hearing
this.
So
will
we
not
be
deciding
this
today?
Y
Good
evening
again,
everyone
David
mendlin,
representing
Pedro
Florentino,
who
is
the
petitioner
and
also
with
us,
is
Beth
McDougall
the
architect
on
this
project.
So
you
may
remember,
we
were
before
you
about
a
year
ago,
and
the
proposal
at
that
time
was
for
a
five-unit
building
at
51
Library.
Currently,
51
library
is
a
bunch
of
old
rundown
garages
and
a
single
family.
Brick
looks
like
a
warehouse,
but
it's
actually
a
single
unit.
Building
yeah.
These
are
the
current.
The
current
state,
the
garages
are
off.
Y
And
the
residences
to
the
right
over
the
past
year
or
so
miss
McDougall
and
Mr
Florentino
have
worked
very
hard
to
try
to
address
the
board's
concern
that
the
five
unit
building
was
just
too
big
for
the
lot.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Beth
because
she
can
describe
the
project
but
I.
You
know
my
my
feeling
is
it's
very
creative.
It's
a
creative
way
to
use
the
space
to
maximize
it,
to
use
various
indentations
and
setbacks
in
the
building
itself,
so
that
it
doesn't
Loom
over
the
neighbors.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Okay,
so
on
the
first
floor,
this
is
the
front
of
the
building,
so
just
kind
of
tilt
your
head.
So
on
the
first
floor,
there
are
two
units
there's
two
two
bedroom
units.
This
is
our
handicapped,
accessible
unit
and
we've
we've
have
it
set
up
so
that
someone
can
purchase
it
and
live
there
with
you
know:
who's
handicapped
in
a
wheelchair,
there's
also
other
opportunities.
So
the
entrance
is
you
come
in
downstairs
and
you
you
come
up
the
stairs
you
land
here.
Z
Z
So
the
upper
unit,
those
are
townhouses,
so
we
have
you
come
up
the
stairs
right.
You
come
in
this
door
to
this
unit
or
you
come
in
this
door
to
this
unit.
Now,
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
back
up
you
come
up
here
and
you
go
into
this
door
and
this
door
for
the
unit.
So
on
this
level
right
here,
which
is
the
third
third
floor,
so
you
have
ground
which
is
the
parking.
So
let's
just
call
that
one
then
second
floor
has
the
two
two
bedrooms
with
the
handicapped,
accessibility.
Z
The
third
floor
has
all
the
Living
Spaces
kitchens
dining
areas
living
space
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
next
level,
we
have
two
bedrooms
and
two
baths.
So
these
units
are
townhouses.
They
have
two
bedrooms:
two
and
a
half
baths.
There's
a
powder
room
on
the
living
area,
floor,
a
little
seating
area
and
what
I've
done
with
all
of
the
outdoor
spaces
is
I've.
Each
person
has
a
has
outdoor
space
decks,
but
they're
not
stacked
on
each
other.
So
no
one
has
drippy
head,
you
know,
gets
dripped
on
their
head
or
anything.
A
Z
All
right,
so,
if
we,
if
we
look
at
the
the
front,
the
sides
and
the
rear
all
have
different
small
outdoor
spaces
for
each
unit.
So
if
you're,
looking
at
this
unit,
it'll
have
a
small
outdoor
space
here,
the
townhouse
units
have
a
small
outdoor
space
on
the
front.
So
as
you
go
along,
none
of
the
decks
like
I
say
another
decks
are
on
top
of
each
other.
The
building
steps
back
on
the
sides.
It
also
steps
back
on
the
front
it
steps
back
from
here
to
here.
Z
So
this
is
the
widest
part,
because
we
need
it
for
the
parking
I
mean
we
looked
at
it
having
it
all
open
with
all
the
parking
and
all
the
cars
there.
It's
just
not
as
finished
it
doesn't
look
as
nice,
so
we'd
like
to
keep
this
enclosed
with
the
garage
in
and
out
doors
that
get
into
the
garage
if
you're
walking,
and
then
this
one
right
here
goes
in
the
stairs
that
go
up,
and
this
one
right
here
gets
you
in
the
parking
garage
go
the
next
one.
B
Z
This
is
the
back,
so
if
you,
if
you're
looking
at
the
rear,
so
this
unit
here,
which
is
a
townhouse,
it
has
a
small
area
here.
This
unit
on
this
side,
which
is
a
townhouse,
has
this
unit
here.
The
unit-
that's
this
one
is
it,
which
is.
The
handicap
unit,
has
a
small
space
here
this
one,
which
is
not
the
handicap
unit.
It
has
a
space
on
the
front.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
elevation,
so
this
is
our
left
side.
Z
N
Z
Then
this
side,
this
woman,
has
has
a
little
bit
longer
one,
and
then
this
is
the
non
handicap
unit
and
that
would
have
a
small
space
here
so
I'm
trying
to
give
everyone
outdoor
spaces,
but
not
so
that
you're
on
top
of
each
other,
trying
not
to
have
them
look
down.
This
one
would
see
down
if
they're
standing
right
here
but
I'm
trying
to
give
everyone
as
much
privacy
as
possible
with
the
outdoor
spaces.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Crenellates
up
front
back
and
all
sides
so
that
we
don't
have
a
box
like
we
see
some
of
the
buildings
and
then
it
has
some
interest
to
it,
and
everyone
has
as
much
private
outdoor
space
as
possible.
You
know
up
here
which
is
off
the
primary
bedroom
and
then
you've
got
this
door
right
here,
actually,
which
has
a
Juliet
Balcony,
that's
actually
in
the
stairwell
that
goes
up
to
the
units.
So
these
guys
here
also
have
a
Juliet
Balcony,
but
that's
the
living
space
that
particular
piece
right.
A
Z
Z
Z
So
this
is
how
much
it
steps
in
it
steps
in
about
it,
steps
in
10
feet.
So,
what's
nice
is,
you
can
see,
there's
roof
down
below?
This
is
a
small
area.
This
is
a
small
area
for
this
unit
with
which
is
the
handicap
unit.
This
unit
here
has
a
small
deck.
Here
we
didn't
put
any
extras
on
the
back,
we're
trying
to
give
everybody.
You
know
enough
space
to
move
around.
If
you
go
the
next
floor,
please
up
one
more.
Z
Thank
you
so
this
unit
right
here
it
says
deck
below,
but
it's
the
roof,
because
no
one
has
access
to
that
you've
got
this,
is
the
deck
below
roof
below?
This
is
their
area,
and
this
is
their
area,
and
this
is
down
below.
So
we've
just
tried
to
create
the
spaces
like
I
said
before
some
private
spaces
for
each
person.
So
if
you
have
any
questions.
Z
The
windows
still
have
to
be
egressable,
you
know
for
egress,
so
what
we
try
to
do
is
to
get
more
light
in
and
it's
a
little
bit.
It's
not
completely
modern
we've
taken
that
away,
but
sort
of
updated
it
that
they're
they're
taller.
So
you
can
get
more
light
because
we're
trying
to
get
as
much
light
in
the
units
as
possible.
Z
Z
The
trash,
if
you
go
back
to
the
where
the
cars
are
trash
is
inside,
so
we
have,
we
have
space
right
here
is
where
we
were
going
to
put
the
trash
just
line
up
the
trash
cans,
because
this
here
see
right
here.
This
is
where
you
can
come
in
from
outside
this.
We
need
a
sprinkler
room.
This
would
be
the
elevator.
This
is
the
door
to
come
in,
you
know
for
the
cars,
and
then
this
is
where
I'll
hop
over
here.
Z
Just
for
emergency
yeah
yeah
I
mean
we
could
plant
some
stuff
back
here,
but
I,
don't
you
know
we
we've
done
things
like
that
before
no
one
ever
uses
it,
so
we
figured,
we
would
you'd
pave
it.
Put
some
basic
grass
I
mean
we
can
put
some
Hedges
and
stuff,
which
I
think
would
be
nice,
but
people
really
don't
use
it.
It's
just
more
of
like
a
condo
association
thing
would
keep
it.
Looking
nice.
G
Z
Z
A
Z
Z
A
N
Z
Plenty
of
space
there's
space
in
the
back
yeah
yeah,
because
the
property
lines
up
your
s,
so
there
is
space,
I
mean
I.
Could
we
we
could
definitely
could
do
tight
on
this
little
here,
but
that
could
come
out
and
we
could
just
have
our
egress
door
here
or
we
can
shift
things
down.
I
mean
there's
we
can
make
that
seventh
car
work
if
we
need
to.
F
Z
Z
J
Z
Said
he
hates
it,
but
he
knows
it's
code,
so
yeah
yeah,
but
the
building
is
sprinkler.
So
it's
allowed
it's
a
small
on
the
smaller
side,
first
for
egress
and
there's
not
that
many
people,
when
you
calculate
out
the
numbers
on
square
footage
and
everything
it
meets
the
requirements
for
the
one
means
of
egress,
okay,
okay
and
but
then
all
bedrooms
have
to
be
aggressible.
Also,
you
know
the
size
of
the
windows.
A
A
A
C
C
It's
right
where
the
the
railroad
is
on
Eastern
Ave,
it's
sort
of
set
back,
it's
pretty
run
down
and
there's
a
building
all
the
way
recessed.
In
the
back.
It's
a
pretty
rundown
building.
We
met
on
multiple
meetings
with
the
city
regarding
redeveloping
this
site
with
my
client,
redeveloping
it.
The
current
owner
of
the
property
occupies
this
existing
building
that
you
see
here.
C
So
the
actual
plan
that
you
see
before
you
today
is
not
what
the
building
looks
like
it's
pretty
disastrous
building
I
think
John
could
probably
attest
to
that
too,
and
my
clients
looking
to
redevelop
the
property
as
a
whole
that
the
owner
part
of
the
deal
is
the
owner.
I
think
is
cast
of
vacate
by
the
end
of
June
of
next
year
and
he
occupies
the
whole
entire
building.
My
client
is
looking
to
take
this
building.
C
He
currently
owns
a
site
that
rivian
is
a
tenant
in
on
Griffin,
Way
and
rivian's,
looking
to
expand
their
use
and
operations
and
they're
looking
to
be
on
this
site.
This
is
why
there's
a
hundred
and
forty
120
storage
of
electric
vehicles
here
there's
also
additional
45
parking
spaces
along
here,
plus
two
additional
handicap
spaces
and
that's
the
service,
the
actual
building
itself.
C
The
goal
here
short
term
is
to
have
Vivian
occupy
the
site
if
this
gets
approved,
on
the
condition
too,
that
when
these
landlord
does
vacate
at
the
end
of
June,
that
this
building
will
be
actually
redone
exterior
windows,
brick
and
all
that
can
be
talked
through
playing
board,
what
we're
going
to
the
extent
of
it.
But
we
gave
you
a
pretty
good
rendering
of
what
we're
talking
about
with
the
building.
C
Nevertheless,
as
we
left
this
portion
of
the
site
where
it's
a
pretty
decent
area
as
a
potential
future
development
site
down
the
road,
the
city
did
rezone
this
whole
entire
area,
so
we're
hoping
that
down
the
road
there
might
be
a
use
for
that
to
put
a
structure
on
that
site,
and
this
is
not
a
long-term
plan.
This
is
something
short
term
that
we
could
hope
to
redevelop
down.
The
road
expects
to
take
a
portion
of
this
building
and
Caribbean
did
sign
a
conditional
lease
if
they
do
acquire
this
property
correctly.
C
C
When
this
sentence
came
out,
will
redo
the
whole
building,
we'll
explode,
you
know
we're
potentially
gaining
a
lot
more
uses
that
are
probably
even
more
desirable
than
the
current
zoning,
but
in
this
day
and
age
in
this
kind
of
world,
we
live
in
it's
very
difficult
to
occupy
these
type
of
buildings
as
a
result
of
that.
But
this
could
have
you
know,
potential
multiple
users
on
the
existing
building
down
the
road
and
this
site
can
be
redeveloped
in
a
different
manner
down
the
road.
C
What
have
not
because
there
isn't
any
engines
essentially
a
battery,
but
one
of
the
problems
with
with
you
know:
electric
vehicle
users
is
technology.
Understanding
how
the
vehicle
runs
works,
the
computers
and
they
basically
and
the
biggest
repairs
they're.
Having
is
because
the
lack
of
knowledge
how
to
use
these
so
in
this
location,
they
would
have
an
office
extensive
office.
They
would
meet
with
people
everything's
bought
online.
Everything
is
purchased
online,
there's
no
sales
at
this
location
or
any
other
location.
Just
like
Tesla
everything's
online.
It's
more
that
they
can
educate
the
buyers.
C
Who've
already
purchased
Vehicles
so
for
service
wise
down
the
road.
There
isn't
as
much
repairs
what
have
not
and
trained,
and
also
it's
not
a
repair
site
that
they
can
have
another
location
and
hire
more
people
and
also
have
a
portion
to
store
their
new
vehicle.
So
again,
as
far
as
visibility
from
the
street
you're
not
going
to
have
120
run
down
Vehicles
like
I,
think
these
are
going
to
be
brand
new
vehicles
and
also
recess
in
the
back
with
a
landscape
and
buffer
in
the
front.
C
J
C
So
they
don't
have
a
I'm.
Sorry
as
of
right
now,
rivian
does
two
types
of
trucks.
They
don't
have
like
essential
like
regular
Vehicles
one's
SUV.
It's
a
33
row
SUV
another
one's
like
a
pickup
truck,
so
it
I
mean
really
high-end
pickup
trucks
and
really
high-end
SUVs,
but
now
with
today's
price,
cutting
because
of
competitiveness
they're.
Originally,
this
vehicle
is
a
very
highly
priced
vehicle
because
the
cost
to
make
them
was
actually
far
more
than
it
cost
them
to
sell
them
because
they
couldn't
build
enough.
C
They
couldn't
make
enough
to
deal
with
the
supply.
I
think
right
now,
they've
only
made
25
000
in
a
giving
year
and
they
have
demands
of
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
thousands.
So
the
problem
is,
is
they
have
a
plant?
That's
so
big,
but
with
the
pots
and
the
labor
force,
they
can't
manufacture
enough
to
deal
with
the
supply.
C
C
I
mean
I
can
attest
that
I
have
both
of
them
and
I
sold
all
my
other
cars,
that's
how
great
the
vehicles
are.
So
as
far
as
you
can
Google
them
online.
The
ratings
are
incredible,
but
you
just
can't
get
them.
You
know
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
the
problem
is
transportation
and
and
storage,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they're
looking
for
an
alternate
site
and
they
and
they
want
to
invest
into
Chelsea
and
by
allowing
this
use
here
to
happen.
C
It
allows
the
buyers
who
are
you
know,
paying
this
enormous
amount
of
money
to
buy
this
piece
of
land
to
redevelop
the
building
and
other
users
on
the
road
by
having
them
there
in
the
short
run,
and
it
could
be
more
in
the
long
run.
It
matters
what
comes
before
the
city,
and
we
also
told
the
city
as
we're
telling
the
sport.
If
other
users
are
looking
to
come
to
the
city.
Let
us
know,
because
we
want
to
bring
them
into
this
site.
C
C
S
D
C
P
C
C
To
tell
you
it's
pretty
much
full
to
the
to
the
top
of
huge
machinery
and
so
forth,
and
it's
going
to
be
all
renovated
for
future
other
development
use,
which
is
why
we
have
45
parking
spaces
for
the
whole
for
the
building
as
a
whole.
So
rivian
may
only
use
seven
or
eight
spots
and
they
could
still
use
their
120
and
storage
for
theirs
and
the
rest
of
it
can
be
left
ready
for
other
users
to
come
on
this
site
to
use
the
building.
P
C
Spaces
there's
45
spots
on
separate
for
the
120..
So
if
you
look
over
here,
these
are
all
parking
spots.
All
these
are
parking
spots
or
the
oh
okay.
So
so
what
I'm
saying
is
the
employees
are
only
going
to
be
the
journey
today?
Then
it's
going
to
be
closed
off
gate
night
security
lit
lighting
plan.
Next
time
you
come
before
the
board.
You'll
see
a
landscaping
and
lighted
plant
security.
Everything
because
we
don't
want
anybody
to
vandalize,
take
the
vehicles.
C
What
have
not
but
the
employees
will
park
in
a
portion
of
the
45
spots
and
the
rest
of
the
spots
are
being
available
for
future
tenants
that
are
going
to
be
going
in
this
renovated
building
for
other
uses
down
the
road.
So
the
goal
is
to
get
that
and
then,
if
one
of
those
tenants
is
looking
for
a
structure
or
a
building
even
more
than
what's
in
the
building
as
a
whole,
because
it's
a
pretty
good
sized
building.
C
That's
why
we
had
this
other
development
site
here,
which
is
a
pretty
good
side
site,
it's
just
because
it's
a
large
site
for
a
future
building
to
be
placed
on
it
if
needed.
For
now,
when
we,
when
we
spoke
to
the
city
they'd
rather
have
that
as
Green
Space
Landscaping
trees
shrubs,
because
that's
the
only
thing
you
see
from
the
street
at
that
angle.
So
that's
why
it's
not
paved
like
the
rest
of
the
site.
C
It's
because
it
creates
a
landscape
from
Buffalo,
because
if
you're
driving
down
Eastern
Ave,
that's
all
you'll
see
and
it
creates
a
buffer
from
the
vehicles
and
everything
but
we're
hoping
down
the
road
when
the
building's
not
over,
that
other
uses
that
want
to
come.
If
they
need
more
than
10
000
square
feet
in
the
building
for
their
use.
It
could
be
another
development
site
on
that,
so
we
sort
of
set
it
apart
as
multiple
sites,
which
is
why
this
was
for
a
period
of
time
for
the
current
proposed
use.
C
Fine
by
the
time,
so
you
go
when
they
come
with
the
trucks
and
they
have
it.
On
the
other
side,
the
one
truck
will
come
over
and
just
unload
it
in
the
spots
and
the
truck
leaves
the
employees
aren't
really
dealing
for
the
storage
of
the
vehicles,
the
the
that's
one
part
of
the
the
application,
it's
mostly
for
the
repair
and
service
and
training
of
people
who
purchase
Vehicles
already,
who
need
the
service
and
repair
the
vehicles
that
they
service
and
train
for
those
vehicles
and
pick
up
those
Vehicles.
C
That's
separate,
that's
what
the
ribbian
office
and
repair
is
going
to
be.
This
is
the
storage
of
the
vehicles
that
really
won't
have
other
employees
other
than
someone
coming
in
with
a
slip
and
say
we
dropped
off
20
Vehicles.
Today,
15
Vehicles
today
you're
not
going
to
see
120
Vehicles
being
dropped
off
in
one
day.
They
can't
even
build
that
many
vehicles
in
that
band,
so
they
they
come
off
a
boat
and
they
drop
them
off
and
they
leave
them
there.
That's
it,
but
that,
hopefully,
that
if
I
understand
what
you're
saying
that's
thank
you.
F
C
Right
right
now,
everything
is
done
online,
just
like
Tesla's,
no
dealerships,
they
just
deliver
the
vehicles
so
as
soon
as
the
vehicles.
These
vehicles
is
a
waiting
list
for
two
years.
So
so
those
vehicles
are
sold
before
they
get.
There
is
that
you
just
need
a
place
to
drop
them
off,
so
they
can
be
as
cool
can
be
registered
insured,
and
then
it's
ready
for
a
person.
A
C
So
the
owner
gets
it,
it
can
be
delivered
to
the
owner
they
can.
If
they
want
to
get
trained
and
how
to
operate
the
vehicle
they
can
come
there.
They
give
them
free
training
to
teach
them
how
to
operate
the
vehicle
in
the
repair,
training
shot
many
ways
for
now,
they're
just
there
for
storage
and
they
usually
get
removed
pretty
quickly
because
there's
a
waiting
list
for
them.
C
So
once
they
come
there,
they
get
down,
but
they're
not
going
to
have
120
cards
a
day
there,
because
they're
only
making
don't
listen
to
me,
you
can
go
online
they're,
making
like
25
000
a
year
throughout
the
whole
country,
so
it
it's
really
there
because
they
have
no
place
to
put
them.
You
know
and
they
need
to
store
them
somewhere
for
people
that
are
coming
to
Massachusetts
who
already
purchase
the
vehicles.
Maybe
they
want
to
get
trained,
you
know
and
so
forth,
and
they
know
what
the
service
area
is.
C
F
C
C
C
That's
very
close
to
the
railroad
track.
It's
pretty
disastrous
I
think
it
has
it's
going
to
have
a
gate
there
anyways
for
the
butter
yeah
to
go
there
and
that's
why
it
was
there
and
they
also
it
had
a
big
storm
water
problem
there
and
I
believe
the
current
owner
went
before
this
board.
I
mean
before
the.
C
C
More
of
green
space
and
more
to
create
a
buffer
okay
when
you're
coming
from
the
street
and
then
another
muscle,
instead
of
having
just
a
straight
paid
slot
a
lease
beautification
wise
when
you're
coming
down
Eastern
Ave
and
it's
hopefully
could
be
a
potential
site
when
a
user
comes
into
the
building
to
develop
a
nice
shell
in
there
for
them.
Okay,.
C
D
C
C
That
makes
it
easier
for
transportation
and
vehicles
because
the
vehicle
is
going
to
come
right
from
East,
Boston,
Chelsea
and
they're
going
to
be
driven
less
than
a
mile
to
there,
which
is
why
I
think
you
see
a
lot
of
these
Park
and
Ride
type
of
locations,
and
originally
this
was
going
to
be
a
portion
of
park
and
ride.
But
after
talking
to
the
city,
that's
something
they
didn't
want
to
see
here.
So
we
did
not
do
Park
and
Ride
whatsoever
and.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
other
other
business.
Things
and
I
have
some
clarifications
on
these
John.
So
we
these
are
not
so,
for
example,
361
Broadway
202202
we're
requesting
an
extension
on
a
special
permit
and
variance
that
is
just
something
we
on
the
board
are
voting
on.
It's
not
a
public
clearing.
A
L
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
Phil
Cohen
from
Boston
communities.
I'll
be
very
brief.
You
guys
voted
in
favor
of
this
project.
In
April
we
are
building
a
mixed
income
housing
community
on
the
fourth
at
Broadway.
In
that
corner
we
needed
your
approval
to
start
the
funding
process
and
we've
submitted
one
application
to
the
state.
So
we're
waiting
for
that
funding
process
to
conclude
and
we're
waiting
and
we're
asking
to
to
extend
the
variants
for
six
months
and.
A
B
A
M
A
I
should
have
taken
this
earlier.
Okay
have
another
question,
so
151
William
Street.
We
are
being
asked
to
determine
if
this
is
a
major
or
a
minor
modification,
but
this
has
not
yet
been
advertised.
So
this
is
again
it's
a
procedural
question.
If
we
determine
this
is
Major,
then
they
have
to
re-advertise
and
come
back
correct,
okay,
who's.
Anybody
here
speak
on
this
okay.
So
basically
what
as
I
John,
please
fill
us
in
what
this
is
being
proposed.
B
A
They
were
30
with
30
units
were
affordable.
Now
they
want
to
go
20,
affordable
and
10
Market
rates,
okay
and
I.
In
my
opinion,
we
granted
Things
based
on
the
fact
that
they
had
30,
affordable
units.
I
would
like
to
consider
what
they're
I'm
not
saying
that
I'm
against
it.
I
just
would
like
to
see
what
they're
they're
proposing,
what
changes
or
whether
or
not
that
2010
split
would
have
changed.
You
know
we
might
want
more
things
we
might
require
more
from
them.
There
might
be
additional
restrictions
that
get
placed
on
their
request.
D
P
A
Q
A
Correct
so
we
can,
if
we
are
so
inclined
vote
on
this
today,
we
need
not,
but
we
can
so
if
we,
if
we
determine
that
this
is
Major,
then
we
can
discuss
it
today.
If
we
discuss,
if
we
decide
it's,
not
major,
it's
smooth.
So
again,
why
don't
you
and
could
you
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
please
and
tell
us
what
you're
proposing
that's
different
from
your
earlier
request?
Okay,
hello.
Q
Okay,
my
name's
Nicole
Dunn
I
live
at
34
Hillside
Ave
I
am
requesting
a
modification
for
30
Hillside
Ave,
which
I
am
a
director
butter
at
the
previous
project,
which
was
owned
by
a
different
person
and
proposed
at
a
different
time,
was
approved
for
a
single
family.
A
large
single
family
home,
a
three-story
home
and
I
am
actually
requesting
to
downsize.
It
structure
wise
to
a
single
story,
structure
which
is
existing,
so
the
existing
footprint
that
is
on
site
now
is
exactly
what's
going
to
stay.
A
And
John
has
that's
right,
so
so
I
mean
I.
Think
if
we,
if
we
determine
its
major,
which
is
the
first
vote
we
have
to
make,
we
determine
its
major.
If
we
do
that,
we
can
because
it's
been
advertised,
we
can't
proceed
with
this
for
with
Ms
Dunn
right
now,
so,
but
but
John
I
would
want
to
know
what
we're
required.
A
A
We
have
a
motion
to
consider
this,
a
major
modification
made
by
Joe
second
or
by
Arthur.
All
three
I
said:
yes,
okay,
so
that's
that's
one!
It's
a
major
modification.
So
now
we
have
to
re-hear
this
yeah,
it's
been
advertised.
You
know
it's
in
now.
John.
Is
this
a
special
permit
kind
of
thing
we're
looking
at
and
will
it
have
to
go
back
to
planning
board
I'll.
B
B
Q
A
A
B
B
Q
H
A
You
know
we
don't
know
Jesus,
we
don't
want
to
say
oh
yeah,
we're
giving
you
approval
for
a
front
yard
setback
when
you
don't
need
a
front
yard
yeah,
but
we
don't.
But
more
importantly,
we
don't
want
to
not
give
you
approval
for
front
yard
setback.
If
you
need
it
because,
then
you
have
to
come
back
here
again,
okay,
so
that
we're
trying
to
avoid,
even
though
it
sounds
like
you
have
to
come
back
next
month
in
the
pain,
it'd
be
worse
pain.
B
A
Okay,
that's
the
only
that's
the
only
so
so
you
know
we're
ready
to
hear
it.
We
have.
We
have
the
new
plans
based
on
the
plans
that
you
submitted.
John
will
come
up
with
that
recommendation
and
we
will
be
able
to
decide
next
in
July,
okay,
okay,
I
just
hope,
I'm,
not
last.
You
wouldn't
be
last
now,
but
well,
but
you
know
something
John
remind
me
if
she's,
if,
if
this
ends.