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A
B
B
H
B
Please
remember
to
turn
off
your
cell
phone
so
that
they
do
not
become
a
disturbance
during
the
meeting.
Please
also
refrain
from
having
conversations
in
this
room
so
that
we
might
hear
all
of
the
testimony
given
today
to
ensure
a
complete
record
of
this
board's
actions.
We
yes,
that
each
individual
wishing
to
speak,
including
the
applicant,
speak
your
phone
at
the
podium.
B
Agendas
of
today's
meeting
are
on
the
podium
to
your
left
near
the
entry
door.
Also
in
the
podium
are
a
roster
of
the
Community
Development
board,
the
list
of
City
staff
experts
on
their
resumes,
the
board's
rules
of
procedure
and
the
annual
schedule
of
this
board.
First
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve.
The
minutes
of
last
month's
meeting
may
have
a
motion
for
the
approval.
B
B
Okay,
we
will
then
go
on
to
if
nothing's
going
to
be
removed,
then
consent
agenda.
This
board
has
adopted
a
consent,
agenda
format
and
the
consent
items
are
identified
as
such
on
the
agenda
consent.
Agenda
items
are
those
items
for
which
the
Planning
and
Development
Department
recommends
approval.
The
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
any
proposed
conditions
and
no
written
objections
to
the
case
have
been
received.
B
B
Fld2023-02005
at
1467,
South
Martin,
Luther,
King,
Jr
Avenue,
the
owner
is
one
four
six
seven
LLC
Representatives
kreiker
Greg
casargian
of
Gulf
Coast
Consulting
is
1.183
Acres,
located
on
the
east
side
of
South
Martin
Luther
King
Jr
Avenue,
approximately
320
feet
north
of
Woodlawn
Street.
The
Community
Development
board
is
reviewing
a
40
unit.
Attached
dwelling
use,
including
minimum
of
10
affordable
units
in
the
commercial
district
for
the
property
located
project
is
approximately
40
feet
in
height
to
roof.
B
B
50
North
Osceola
Avenue,
the
owner
is
the
city
of
Clearwater
representative
is
Angela
Robert
of
hillward
and
Henderson.
The
location
is
1.348
Acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
North
Osceola
Avenue
approximately
85
feet
north
of
Cleveland
Street
assigned
planner,
is
Gina
Clayton
planning
a
development
director.
Is
anybody
wish
to
have
this
item
removed
from
today's
consent?.
I
B
B
E
B
B
K
B
B
I
will
read
the
procedures
of
such
onto
the
all
level
two
cases,
such
as
flexible
development
or
considered
quasi-judicial
hearings
and
acquisite
judicial
hearing,
the
Community
Development
board
reviews
the
application,
the
staff
report,
correspondence
and
all
evidence
presented
today
and
makes
a
final
decision
subject
to
appeal.
B
This
board
has
previously
qualified
all
of
the
city
staff
who
will
testify
as
experts
in
their
area,
professional
training,
education
and
experience,
the
list
of
City
staff
experts
and
their
resumes
are
in
the
handbook
and
the
podium
near
the
entry
door.
Any
other
professionals
who
desired
to
be
qualified
as
an
expert
witness,
shall
some
request
at
the
beginning
of
the
case
and
present
a
resume
to
each
board
member.
B
The
board
shall
determine
whether
or
not
to
qualify
the
person
as
an
expert
and
in
what
field
of
study
at
the
beginning
of
each
level,
2
case
I
will
ask
for
anyone
who
wishes
to
request
party
status
to
come
forward
and
state
your
reasons.
Party
status
may
be
granted
if
the
person
requesting
such
status
demonstrates
that
they
are
a
substantially
effective
person.
B
Then
the
case
will
proceed
as
follows:
request
for
party
status,
presentation
by
Planning
and
Development
staff,
10
minutes
presentation
by
the
applicant
10
minutes
presentation
by
persons
with
party
status;
five
minutes
maximum
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
Planning
and
Development
staff,
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
applicant
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
persons
with
party
status
comments
by
the
public
three
minutes
per
person
close
with
remarks
by
the
planning
and
development
staff.
Three
minutes
closing
remarks
by
persons
granted
party
status.
B
B
The
project
includes
14
off
street
parking
spaces
and
requests
allowed.
Flexibility
to
parking
associations
are
Clearwater.
Neighborhoods
Coalition,
Board
of
County
Commissioners
Pinellas
County
school
board,
Clearwater
Beach
Association
in
Bell
Harbor
a
signed
planner
is
Kevin
noonberger
Senior
planner.
Is
anybody
requesting
party
status
on
this
case?
K
M
Aye
good
afternoon,
Kevin
number
Planning
Development
the
property
at
490.
Mandalay
Avenue
is
a
0.0.4
acre
property.
It's
zoned
tourist
with
the
future
land
use
designation
of
the
designated
Resort
District
in
the
beach
by
Design,
the
land
use
or
the
current
land
use
is
a
retail
Plaza.
The
site
is
largely
paved
with
parking
provided
along
the
east
side
of
the
site,
and
the
existing
car
park
is
not
co-compliant
with
regard
to
dimensions.
M
Develop
proposal
is
to
eliminate
11
parking.
Spaces
are
located
along
the
east
side
of
the
building
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
site
and
constructed
965
square
foot
deck
for
seating
and
dining.
The
remaining
14
spaces
will
be
re-striped
to
meet
current
code
and
dimensional
standards.
The
proposed
deck
will
eliminate
seven
parking
spaces
and
indirectly
eliminate
an
additional
Force
bases
on
the
east
side
of
the
driveway
Landscaping
will
be
enhanced
on
the
property
line
along
Mandalay
Avenue
and
additional
Landscaping
will
be
restored
in
the
right
of
way
along
Baymont
Street.
M
The
property
is
located
in
the
beach
by
Design
the
destination
Resort
District,
where
the
city
has
demonstrated
through
the
creation
of
beach
bar
design
and
subsequent
amendments
to
the
plan
that
it
recognizes
the
need
for
pedestrian
friendly
development
to
create
a
vibrant,
active
Waterfront,
serving
tourists
and
locals
alike,
which
applies
to
this
applicable,
is
section
f
of
the
beach
by
Design.
It
addresses
issues
related
to
parking.
M
I
have.
In
summary,
the
site
is
developed
with
no
reasonable
opportunities
to
expand.
The
property
request
is
for
an
enhancement
of
an
existing
retail
Plaza,
with
additional
outdoor
seating
and
dining
opportunities
via
the
new
965
square
foot
deck
and
the
elimination
of
11
11
existing
parking
spaces,
re-striping
The
Remains
parking
to
bring
it
up
to
code
and
to
make
Landscaping
improvements
is
important
to
consider.
M
The
site
does
not
currently
contain
nearly
the
required
number
of
parking
spaces
nor
code
compliant
parking
regarding
dimensions,
and
it
is
anticipated
that
the
proposal
will
have
little
to
no
impact
of
parking
Demand
on
the
beach
Plaza
parking.
The
plaza
requires
a
minimum
between
27
and
30
parking
spaces
where
only
14
are
proposed.
The
existing
parking
spaces
do
not
meet
current
dimensional
standards.
However,
these
proposed
new
14
will
be
brought
up
to
current
standards.
M
M
Public
parking,
s3p
really
is
a
typical
question
for
us
anyway.
Republican
Plaza
parking
public
parking
garage
located
to
the
east
across
Mandalay,
Avenue
and
Engineering
staff
agrees
with
these
bindings.
The
site
has
historically
relied
primarily
on
foot
traffic
and
no
change
in
that
regard
is
expected.
The
applicant
has
shown
that
the
site
depends
on
and
will
continue
to
depend
on,
the
public
parking
and
capture
trips.
Essentially,
the
existing
non-performing
parking
will
be
improved,
non-confrupting
Landscaping
will
be
improved
and
an
additional
outdoor
dining
will
be
provided,
contributing
to
an
active
Street
Life.
M
N
I
have
a
few
if
I
may,
there's
two
restaurants
currently
located
there
at
this
time,
I
believe
so.
Yes,
it
was
your
calculations
based
on
one
or
two
restaurants,
I.
M
N
There's
there's
five
Bays
that
are
retail
only
and
there's
12
Bays
that
are
rest
seven
days
to
total
12.
Southerner
restaurant.
So
the
numbers
are
a
lot
higher
than
35
percent
when
you
guys
did
that
calculation.
So
my
my
read
is
your
parking
is:
is
de
minimis
by
a
larger
number
and
then
do
you
count
patio
space
for
parking
any.
M
O
N
Typically,
under
Zoning
for
restaurants
and
other
municipalities,
they
go
by
a
number
of
spaces
per
seat
And
in
regards
to
the
city.
We
don't
do
that
here.
First
floor
area,
but
yeah
you
know,
there's
probably
an
extra
100
seats
that
are
allocated
to
the
outdoor
and
you're,
adding
another
100,
more
and
I
got
to
think
that's
relevant
to
parking
is,
is
the
question
I
have
because
well.
M
From
my
understanding
is,
I
came
up
with
the
traffic
Park
and
demand
study
and
that
this
site
locally
deals
with
foot
traffic
more
than
it
will
deal
with
parking
traffic
and
so
they're.
Judging
that,
based
on
the
foot
traffic
that
they've
experienced
over
the
years
that
that's
primarily
what's
going
to
be
there
and
not
necessarily
actually
people
parking,
because
they
have
the
parking
garage
right
there
I
believe
street
parking
is
available
as
well.
So
there's
plenty
of
public
parking
available
in
the
area,
you're,
not
necessarily
right
on
site.
I.
M
I,
don't
know
from
my
understanding
what
they're
doing
with
this
deck
is
not
eliminating
any
loading
space,
they're,
just
I'm
just
asking
for
code,
so
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
how
they
traditionally
deal
with
loading.
It's
just
eliminating
standard
parking
spaces
which
will
be
removed.
Loading
wouldn't
be
an
issue,
however.
They've
been
doing
it
for
years.
It's
going
to
continue,
but
this
is
just
going
to
remain
11.
These
parking
spaces
will
be
removed.
N
M
The
parking
doesn't
take
into
account
number
of
employees
that
are
going
to
account
for
the
gross
flow
area
of
the
business
too.
A
lot
of
codes
do
require
I,
think
Department
of
what
it
was
when
the
Pelican
parking
garage
was
approved,
I
believe
there
were
levels
or
certain
levels
that
were
going
to
be
dedicated
solely
to
employees
or
they
could
park
and
go
up
and
down
the
Park
area
as
well.
That's
been
an
ongoing
issue.
M
Q
R
Well,
I
can
address
two
of
your
questions,
so
you
were
talking
about
the
seating
of
Baymont
that
is
addressed
under
condition
of
approval
number
five
or
that
was
not
permitted,
so
that
was
addressed
as
a
condition
they
have
to
restore
it.
There
is
the
ability
to
have
sidewalk
cafes
in
the
public
Railway,
there's
specific
code
section
that
they
want
to
pursue,
that
we'd
have
to
review
it,
but
that
was
noted,
and
that
is
addressed
as
a
condition
and
then
also
in
the
staff
report
under
the
parking
analysis.
R
R
Are
making
improvements
to
make
the
parking
spaces
be
code
compliant
and
they
they
base
it
largely.
S
N
So
what
would
keep
them
from
taking
those
five
retail
days
and
making
that
a
restaurant
Bay
after
this
approval.
R
N
O
You
know,
continue
it
until
we
understand
the
parking,
if
that
is
in
fact
the
case,
but
we're
we're
basing
all
this
on
what
was
submitted
to
our
time.
It
was.
T
This
project
has
been
before
the
city
staff
for
wild
and
the
city
hasn't
been
quick
to
respond
to
to
the
applications
have
been
extremely
careful
in
analyzing
every
bit
of
this
site.
So
it's
not
like.
We
submit
the
plans.
The
city
said
all
right.
This
is
fine,
let's
bring
it
before
the
cdb
Community
Development
board.
We
have
met
out
there
several
times,
even
with
the
Solid.
U
T
Q
T
Just
basically,
you
look
at
the
site
plan
as
as,
if
there's
no
parking,
the
site
has
been
in
existence
for
a
long
time
now,
it's
not
like
we
are
doing
it
brand
new,
we're
building
a
brand
new
project.
The
site
has
been
operating,
it's
operating,
it's
working,
I,
don't
know
if
the
city
has
had
any
sort
of
a
code,
compliance
or
or
code
enforcement-
or
anybody
may
have
you
know,
stated
anything
as
far
as
loading
or
parking
or
whatever
I
I'm.
Not
aware
of
any
of
that,
so
the
point
of
beginning
is
all
right.
T
T
Yes,
we're
really
removing
some
non-conforming
parking
spaces
and
don't
meet
code
so
as
if
we
really
don't
have
any
parking.
So
just
imagine
there
is
no
parking.
There's
a
building,
all
the
uses
and
all
the
guests
or
patrons
are
are
walkable.
They
just
walk
through
the
site
and
enjoy
the
facilities.
The.
Q
T
T
Built
there
for
this
very
purpose,
they
want
you
to
actually
Park
on
one
side
of
the
beach
and
walk
to
the
other
side,
so
that
you
may
want
to
encourage
purchasing
or
enjoying
some
of
the
other
facilities
that
are
there.
So
the
way
we
have
looked
at
the
site
is
really
really
minor.
However,
staff
has
extremely
careful
with
this.
We
have
gone
back
and
forth
several
times.
T
T
So
you
know
continuing
this
I,
don't
know
what
would
accomplish
we.
You
know
this
I
mean
I'm,
really
surprised
to
even
hear
these
comments.
T
T
T
N
T
T
V
Is
the
is
the
deck
going
to
be
branded
or
marketed
for
one
specific
business
in
the
Plaza,
or
is
it
it's
for
all.
T
V
T
R
R
R
I
can
tell
you
what
you
know
based
on
what's
in
the
staff
report,
what
our
analysis
was
done
on,
but
if
you're
saying
nope
now
there's
a
new
restaurant
I,
you
know
I
have
to
go
back
and
research
and
look
at
the
BTR
see
what
it
was
see
if
it
has
inside
seats,
see
if
it
doesn't
to
say
yes,
this
is
what's
there.
This
is
how
we
classify
it.
Therefore,
here's
how
we
calculate
parking
you.
N
Is
there
an
in-ground
grease
trap
at
this
location?
I
didn't
see
one.
B
We
would
go
into
cross-examine.
E
B
Cross
from
the
city,
I
was
going
to
say
and
no
cross
from
the
applicant.
So
unless
there's
some,
unless
there's
some
requests
to
continue
this
item
by
any
other
party,
we
would
go
on
to
comments
by
the
public
at
this
time.
B
Q
B
Closing
their
marks
my
applicant
in
closing,
remarks.
Okay,
this
matter
be
close
to
the
public
in
discussing
that
vote
from
the
board.
I'll
start
out
with
a
little
bit
of
it.
I
was
at
the
site
yesterday
too,
and
I
will
tell
you.
I
will
never
Park
in
this
parking
lot
personally
with
my
vehicle,
because
none
of
the
spaces
are,
in
my
opinion,
but
I'd
be
safe.
B
Putting
my
car
in
them,
so
I
mean
and
I
look
at
it
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
with
staff
too,
just
looking
at
other
matters
that
have
come
before
the
board.
B
There's
a
lot
of
buildings
on
Mandalay
and
other
locations
that
have
changed
use
over
the
last
years
on
Clearwater
Beach
that
have
never
reached
the
board
just
because
they're
just
changes,
abuse
and
going
through
building
department
and
and
and
obviously
and
there's,
none
if
any
or
very
limited
parking
on
those
sites
and
what
I
have
heard
or
understood
is
that
that's
what
part
of
the
public
parking
is
being
used
as
that's
why
we
have
a
parking
garage
and
obviously
we
could
use
more
of
that,
because
there
is
always
a
problem
with
parking,
especially
on
the
weekends,
on
the
beach.
B
But
that's
just
from
my
knowledge
of
it
I'm
happy
that
they
would
come
and
rectify
the
existing
parking.
What
would
be
remaining
I
am
concerned
about
the
comments
that
were
brought
up,
that
if
it
is
conforming,
though,
with
the
retail
component
of
it
on
the
restaurant
use,
you
know
it
brings
up
a
little
bit
of
a
cloud
of
an
issue
right
now
to
me,
but
as
far
as
the
parking
matter
in
and
of
itself,
I
personally
would
have.
C
Anybody
else
has
a
comment:
I
think
Mr
Huff
brought
off
some
really
good
points
and
I
think
we
should
take
a
look
at
that.
Again.
Parking
is
a
premium
down
there.
Affordable
parking
is
even
more
of
a
premium.
The
fact
that
you
say
there's
plenty
of
parking.
That
is
true,
but
some
of
it
is
extremely
expensive,
so
I
think
in
bringing
up
these
points.
F
Q
D
F
And
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
go
for
you
know:
you'll,
never
have
all
the
spaces
you
need.
Never,
there
will
be
someone
rolling
around
that
beach
looking
for
a
spot,
so
we
can't
provide
parking
for
everybody,
but
I
do
understand
a
business
and
business
there.
I
want
people
to
be
able
to
come,
solicit
and
be
there,
but
I
also
believe
the
walkability,
the
ferry
system
that
we're
trying
to
work
out
to
try
and
push
people
not
to
bring
their
car
on
the
beach.
N
G
In
agreement
with
your
everything
that
you
brought
up,
I'm,
not
sure
that's
going
to
make
any
difference
in
the
end.
At
the
end,
all
of
basically
I
would
say
that
the
only
thing
we
do
is
correct
the
application,
because
the
staff
would
still
approve
this
calculation.
V
O
Think
what
that
would,
if
they
are
incorrect
from
what
was
submitted
it
would
just
we
would
have
to
re-advertise
it
with
the
correct
numbers
of
the
reduction.
They
may
need
to
update
the
parking
study,
but
in
the
end,
they're
going
to
come
back
to
you
with
the
same
number
of
parking
spaces.
That
just
may
be
a
request
for
a
larger
deviation.
V
O
Would
be
no
conditional
use,
I'm,
saying
I'm,
saying
that
you
know
it
could
change
our
view.
I
don't
know,
but
in
the
end,
that's
what
would
come
down
to
it.
We
would
need
to
re-advertise
it
based
on
if
it
has
different
information
now
weekly
advertise
it
we
bring
it
back.
We'd
have
an
updated
stop
report.
E
E
G
N
So
there's
a
demand
for
those
faces
and
you
know
they
can
park
in
front
of
my
house
up
the
street
if
they
want
I
guess,
because
that's
where
it's
going,
because
the
parking
garage
that
the
city
sold,
the
guy's
doubled
the
prices.
So
that's
pushed
everybody
out
of
that
they're
going
to
other
areas.
I
live
up.
The
street
I
go
to
these
restaurants.
I
drive
there
for
takeout
I
have
no
place
to
park.
N
I've
gotten
parking
tickets,
like
you,
wouldn't
believe,
just
trying
to
go
to
a
restaurant
to
get
take
out,
and
here
we
are
adding
another.
You
know:
Frenchy's
has
what
200
seats
in
a
2200
square.
Foot:
restaurant
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
that,
but
he
does
it
on
all
of
his
restaurants
and
now
you're,
going
to
add
another
150
seats.
Where
are
those
people
gonna
Park?
Where
are
the
employees
going
to
park?
O
I
think
that
if
the
board
finds
that
the
Board
needs
to
make
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
Law
and
it's
up
to
the
board
to
decide
whether
those
standards
have
been
met,
we
just
make
a
recommendation
to
you
you're
not
obligated
to
to
vote
in
that
way.
So
if
you
don't
believe
that
threshold
has
been
met
for
for
the
reduction,
then.
W
C
B
K
C
B
V
V
B
C
Motion
for
approval
one
second,
all
those
in
favor
I
opposed
no
I
didn't
do
this
again.
Do
you
have
it
or
not?
Yeah
you
sure.
Five,
two.
D
F
B
Fld2022-11028
at
776,
El,
Dorado
Avenue,
the
owner
is
Jason
McCool
and
Ellison.
Massengill
representative
is
Catherine
e
Cole,
Hill,
Ward
and
Henderson
location,
.227
Acres,
located
on
the
west
side
of
El
Dorado
Avenue
approximately
60
feet
south
of
the
intersection
of
El
Dorado
Avenue
and
Mango
Street.
B
E
Mr
chair,
we
have
a
few
witnesses
to
swear
in
on
this
one.
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
start
out
with
Miss
Melissa
Hawk
Baker
I'd
like
to
ask
her
to
be
an
expert
witness
in
general
planning
zoning,
Redevelopment
planning,
Land
Development
code
and
Land
Development
code
amendments,
special
area
plans
and
overlay
districts,
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture,
historic
preservation
and
comprehensive
sign
programs.
Q
K
E
B
Y
Y
It's
approximately
90
feet
along
the
frontage
of
Eldorado
by
110
feet.
Deep,
the
proposed
project
is
a
pool
and
shown
on
the
graphic
that
you're
seeing
the
proposed
pool
is
in
the
blue
line
generally,
and
the
reason
why
this
is
coming
before
you
is
the
pool
is
going
to
be
proposed
to
go
approximately
six
feet
c
word
of
the
red
line
that
is
on
that
plan,
and
that
is
the
Coastal
Construction
Control
line,
which
was
established
in
1978
and
it's
monitored
through
fdep.
Y
Y
The
subject
property
is
highlighted
with
a
bubble
and
then,
as
you
move
along
south
of
the
subject,
property,
the
applicant
included
what
they
call
exhibit
a
in
their
submittal
and
it
included
eight
properties,
four
to
the
south
of
the
subject:
property
and
four
to
the
north.
That
they're
claiming
there
is
already
a
construction
seaward
of
the
cccl
and
our
report
details
how
that
is
not
exactly
the
case.
The
other
items
that
we
need
to
review
for
this.
Y
Y
The
stars
that
are
in
the
color
red
are
the
examples
that
the
applicant
is
included
in
their
exhibit.
A
the
stars
in
yellow,
represent
the
staff
research
to
further
either
support
or
show
that
there
isn't
really
construction
seaward
of
the
cccl.
There
are
three
blue
stars
and
those
represent
pre-199
approvals
for
construction
c
word
of
the
cccl,
and
that
would
include
a
760
El
Dorado
Avenue,
which
is
south
of
the
subject
property,
and
that
was
approved
in
1986
for
a
patio
with
steps
c
word
of
the
cccl
to
the
north.
Y
There
are
two
stars:
the
first
one
is
848
Eldorado
Avenue,
and
that
was
approved
in
1986
for
a
wall,
reconstruction
SeaWorld
of
the
ccco,
and
then
you
have
880
Mandalay,
which
is
the
large
multi-unit
building
to
the
north
of
the
subject,
property,
which
is
also
in
the
tourist
zoning
District,
which
is
a
completely
different
District
than
the
subject
property
and
the
surrounding
area,
which
is
low,
medium
density,
residential
and
that
property
880
Mandalay
was
approved
in
1995
for
a
fence
c
word
of
the
cccl,
however,
that
building
was
constructed
originally
in
1960-62
and
that
would
have
included
the
pool
which
part
of
the
pool
deck
is
also
seaward
of
the
CCC
out.
Y
Part
of
the
Community
Development
code
includes
us
looking
at
the
general
purposes
and
the
cccl
is
established
to
protect
the
beach
and
the
dunes
system.
Two
important
natural
resources
which
serve
multiple
purposes
for
the
community.
A
proposal
is
inconsistent
with
the
character
of
the
area
along
the
west
side
of
El
Dorado
Avenue.
Y
This
information
is
detailed
further
in
the
staff
report
as
well
as
I
will
highlight
some
of
those
items
as
we
move
forward.
There
is
no
pattern
in
the
immediate
vicinity
which
shows
c
word
of
the
cccl
construction
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
subject,
property
and
a
permitting
new
construction
c
word
of
the
ccco
would
create
a
new
development
character
within
this
area.
For
all
of
those
reasons,
The
Proposal
does
not
meet
the
general
purpose
section
of
the
Community
Development
code.
Moving
on
the
application
must
also
meet
all
six
General
applicability
criteria.
Y
There
are
two
criteria
that
the
project
is
not
consistent
with
and
that
will
be
section
3-914
subsection,
a
number
one,
which
is
the
proposed
development
of
the
land,
will
be
in
harmony
with
the
scale,
bulk
coverage,
density
and
character
of
the
adjacent
properties
in
which
is
located.
The
second
criteria
is
section
3-914,
subsection
A5.
The
proposed
development
is,
would
need
to
be
consistent
with
the
community
character
of
the
immediate
vicinity
and
those
two
items.
Staff
has
determined
in
our
evaluation
that
the
project
does
not
and
is,
is
not
consistent
with
all
of
the
criteria.
Y
Next
up
is
a
review
of
the
requirements
under
the
comprehensive
plan
and
Sarah
Kessler
from
our
Public
Works
I
mean
Public
Public
Works
division
is
going
to
speak
on
that
she
is
a
lead
environmental
specialist
in
our
Public
Works
Department.
Z
Good
afternoon,
so
as
part
of
the
code
and
comp
plan,
we
talk
about
protecting
our
Dunes,
protecting
our
beaches
and
that's
what
the
cccl,
and
so
that
cccl
preserves
areas
of
encroachment.
We
can
easily
see
what
happened
last
year
when
things
start
to
encroach
too
much
into
our
beach
areas
and
so
having
those
regulations
that
protect
our
dunes
and
protect
our
beaches
and
protect
the
vegetation.
That's
there
is
something
that
we
have
on
the
books
and
we
should
continue
to
do
and
as
and
we
have
the
regulations
to
continue
to
protect
that.
Z
Y
You
Sarah
next
up.
This
is
a
graphic
showing
how
the
exhibit
a
which
the
applicant
has
submitted.
There
are
two
properties:
three
thousand
feet:
approximately
north
of
the
subject:
property,
where
recently
1002
El,
Dorado,
Avenue
and
1006
El
Dorado
Avenue,
were
approved
by
this
board.
To
permit
construction,
see
word
of
the
ccco.
Y
The
two
properties
are
severely
impacted
by
the
cccl
line.
More
so
than
the
subject
property.
Y
If
you
will
of
where
development
stops
and
most
all
of
the
pools
are
tucked
up
immediately
adjacent
to
the
homes,
the
proposed
project
differs
in
that
they're,
proposing
a
separation
between
the
pool
and
the
house.
It
hasn't
been
determined,
what's
going
to
occur
in
that
area,
but
there's
approximately
five
feet
where
the
pool
could
be
shifted
back
towards
the
house
on
the
landward
side,
which
could
potentially
eliminate
the
need
to
go
see.
Word
of
the
cccl.
Y
AA
As
well
so
I'm
good
to
go
so
the
main
purpose
of
this
picture
is
to
show
the
closeness
of
the
pools
in
the
neighborhood
there
to
the
house.
Somebody
brought
up
to
me
the
question
about
angle
of
repose,
which
is
your
soil.
As
you
dig
a
hole
it
will
start
to
cave
in
on
itself
generally
here
without
any
kind
of
engineering
or
any
thought
at
all.
45
degrees
is
what
we
use,
but
we
all
know
that
with
engineering
you
could
build
right
up
to
the
property
line.
You
can
build
right
next
to
a
Foundation.
AA
B
N
Okay,
what
is
the?
What
is
the
area
consist
of
now,
where
they're
proposing
to
do
this.
Y
Y
The
pool
was
c
word
of
the
cccl
staff
acknowledged
that
if
they
were
to
continue
with
that
plan
that
it
would
need
to
be
switched
to
a
level
two
application,
they
revised
it
to
only
show
the
house
and
it
continued
to
move
forward
and
got
approved
by
the
DRC
for.
N
Y
Y
Yeah
right,
but
you
can
see
in
that
graphic
that
it
is
that
patio
is
in
line
with.
If
you
draw
the
line
consistently
from
that
property
along
these
properties
to
the
South,
they
all
stop
at
a
certain
point
and
I
know
for
certain:
that's
the
four
houses
one
house
down.
Those
were
I
have
property
surveys
that
show
their
development
stop
at
the
cccl.
Y
Okay,
so
it's
just
staff's
opinion
through
our
research
at
the
staff
report,
that
the
proposed
project
is
inconsistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Community
Development
code.
There
is
no
substantial
competent
evidence
to
support
the
request
that
would
have
needed
to
be
submitted
by
the
applicant.
The
burden
of
proof
lies
with
the
applicant.
The
proposed
pool
and
fence
Sea
World
of
the
ccco
would
establish
a
new
development
pattern
in
the
area
and
based
on
these
findings.
Staff
recommends
denial
of
case
FLD,
2022-11028.
AB
Thank
you.
I
was
also
waiting
for
our
Park
good
afternoon,
Katie
Cole,
the
co-work
Henderson
600
Cleveland
Street
Clearwater
Florida,
representing
the
applicant
Mr
Jason
McCool,
and
his
wife
Allison.
AB
It
was
emailed
about
well
before
the
last
hearing
and
then
it
was
emailed
again.
AB
AB
AC
AB
All
right
good
afternoon
at
we
are
in
the
unusual
position
today
to
disagree
with
staff
and
in
reading
the
staff
report
and
listening
to
Ms
Baker's
presentation.
One
would
think
that
Mr
and
Mrs
McCool
were
flattening
sand
dunes,
backfilling
turtleness
and
creating
an
unconscionable
new
impact
on
in
their
own
backyard
in
on
Clearwater
Beach,
and
that's
just
candidly,
not
at
all,
what's
happening.
AB
This
is
the
same
photo
that
was
just
done
put
up
in
the
staff
presentation
and
you
can
see
the
star
photo
is
776
El
Dorado
prior
to
demolition,
Emperor
I
think
it
was
Mr,
hupp's
Question,
there's
concrete
all
the
way
to
the
seawall,
because
the
pattern
of
development
in
North
Clearwater
Beach
is
is
a
seawall
that
was
established
in
the
20s
when
that
property
was
first
planted
and
every
single
homeowner
using
all
of
their
land
up
to
the
sea
wall
here
is
a
zoning
map
that
shows
that
the
city
of
Clearwater
also
recognizes
the
sea
wall,
and
in
fact,
SeaWorld
of
the
sea
wall
is
the
distinction
between
the
lmdr
zoning
and
the
osr
zoning.
AB
Both
of
these
zoning
boundaries
are
c
word
of
the
cccl
and
the
seawall
located
on
this
parcel,
as
you
saw
in
the
application
and
the
staff
presentation,
there's
an
existing
historic
sea
wall
that
runs
north-south
on
the
property
and
the
proposed
the
property
line
is
c
word
of
that
the
cccl
is
is
landward.
Of
that
Seawall
the
proposed
pool
is,
is
land
word
of
the
historic,
Seawall
and
I.
Think
that's
an
extremely
important
point.
AB
Property
line
still
is
further
seabird
at
that
wall,
as
Ms
Baker's
report
said,
and
as
the
application
showed
there's
about
four
and
a
half
feet
of
pool
pavement
to
the
cccl,
which
is
still
17
feet
from
the
property
line,
the
because
it
is
seaward
of
the
cccl
and
then
again
the
seawall
is.
The
applicant
has
also
requested
a
fence
in
this
area,
which
is
reflective
of
many
of
the
other
properties
on
Clearwater
Beach.
AB
AB
Here's
a
photo
that
shows
the
existing
Seawall
and
the
pattern
of
development,
as
you
went
through.
The
flexibility
criteria
submitted
with
the
application
was
evidence
that
we
do
need
this.
This
application
does
meet
this
criteria.
The
Proposal
does
improve
the
appearance
and
function
of
the
home.
Adding
a
pool
is
generally
acceptable
as
increasing
the
value
of
of
a
single
family
home,
and
it
also
is
consistent
with
the
adjacent
structures,
many
of
whom
you
saw
even
in
staff's
presentation,
already
have
pools
in
this
area.
AB
AB
AB
Interestingly
enough,
the
dep's
gis
in
Pinellas
County's
website
both
show
the
line
sea
Work
Land
word
of
the
seawall,
as
is
shown
on
these
two
maps.
However,
the
Pinellas
County
Property
Appraisers
overlay,
which
is
what
many
of
the
exhibits
were,
is
that's
the
easiest
map
to
use
and
that's
what
the
City's
map
shows.
The
initially
shows
the
line
c
word
of
the
sea
wall.
AB
You
can
imagine
a
homeowner's
surprise
when
they
look
on
the
Property
Appraiser's
website
and
they
see
that
there's
a
Construction
Control
line
in
a
place
that
they
would
never
build
because
it
actually
is
protecting
the
dunes
when,
in
fact,
when
they
receive
a
final
survey,
it
is
actually
shown
there
where
the
green
line
is
identified
as
Pinellas
GIS.
This
is
the
difference
of
this
request.
In
essence,
there's
been
a
question
and
it's
been
implied
that
this
is
not
traditional
to
develop
on
Clearwater
Beach
in
this
manner
and
I
think
it's
important
to
show
in
1975.
AB
AB
AB
Landward
of
the
sea
wall,
as
Miss
Kessler
testified.
The
intent
of
the
cccl
is
to
protect
dunes
and
vegetation.
It
is
not
to
limit
Construction.
In
fact,
that's
why
very
specifically,
the
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection,
supersedes
and
takes
takes
control
of
these
permits,
and
any
approval
that
is
authorized
by
the
city
is
subject
to
dep
approval.
AB
AB
It's
important
to
note
that
the
defunct
sea
wall
is
considered
the
edge
of
the
developable
area.
The
staff
notes
that
the
building
department
agreed
that
the
angle
of
repose
presents
a
challenge
and
it
would,
for
this
site,
create
requiring
a
significantly
smaller
pool
and
a
risk
to
the
foundations.
AB
The
proposed
pool
supports
the
character
of
El
Dorado
in
North,
Clearwater
Beach,
as
I
just
shown
you
through
each
one
of
these
pictures,
extending
eight
feet
and
11
inches
over
the
cccl
does
not
change
the
ability
to
withstand
impacts.
There
is
a
developed
line,
a
sea
wall.
That's
there
and
improvements
are
proposed.
Landward
of
the
Seawall.
AB
I
did
want
to
show
some
historic
photos.
This
is
the
plot
that
is
recorded
in
the
public
records,
which
shows
how
each
of
these
Parcels
are
generally
the
same
size.
A
sea
wall
was
constructed
along
the
seaward
edge
of
these
Parcels,
which
established
the
pattern
of
development.
Since
then,
the
beach
has
obviously
grown
to
everyone's
benefit,
and
that
is
where
the
dunes
have
been
created.
AB
While
the
line
was
established
in
the
70s,
the
line
in
Pinellas
County
and
impacting
Clearwater
Beach
was
mapped
specifically
in
2002,
as
as
the
staff
also
said,
even
prior
to
that,
you
can
see
the
same
block.
The
specific
line
of
development
between
this
being
water,
which
is
now
Dunes
the
sea
wall,
and
then
the
Upland
development.
AB
B
B
I
think
you
may
pass
the
dirt.
No
that's
not
it!
It
was
an
actual,
so
maybe
the
one
on
top,
maybe
the
one
on
top.
Is
that
one
yeah?
That's
it?
Can
we
zoom
in
on
that
to
see
that
again,
so
my
question
you're
showing
us
the
existing
CCL
line,
the
center
line
is
the
historic
sea
wall.
That's
there
and
the
property
line
itself
is
further.
Seaward
of
that.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
it's
not!
It's
not
the
seawall
correct.
AB
U
AB
AB
It
doesn't
show
unless
I
missed
call
you
you
made
a
statement.
I
just
want
to
clarify
to
make
sure
if,
depending
on
which
way,
this
vote
goes
today
if
it
was
to
be
approved
and
staff,
please
correct
me
too:
if
it's,
if
it
does
get
approval,
that's
not
final
approval
for
them
to
build
this
project.
The
way
it
is.
It
has
to
go
to
fdep
for
either
permit
or
administrative
approval
or
whatever
the
case
might
be
from
them.
So.
B
Z
Dep
requires
the
city's
approval
first
first,
so
yeah
I
mean
do
they
have
to
deny
it,
even
if
we
approve
it,
but
yeah.
B
F
F
Over
the
Coastal
Construction
line,
there's
been
a
lot
of
encroachment,
we'll
say
over
that
and
they've
allowed
it.
So
they
kind
of
follow
the
city's
angleness
we
have
not
ever
would
be
setting
a
precedent
to
go
over
the
Coastal
Construction
line,
so
they
basically
had
said
to
me
that
they
go
based
off
of
what
this
board
would
be
saying.
Respectfully,
I
wouldn't
say
you
have
not
ever
yeah.
AD
AD
AD
V
I
didn't
have
a
copy
of
the
server
I
went
and
viewed
it
this
week,
or
essentially,
you
had
some
pictures
under
construction
where
the
self
fence
is
up
right
now.
F
I
had
a
question
when
you
were
doing
the
application
and
the
design
everything
you
knew
about
the
Coastal
Construction
line
and
something
to
consider
where
the
movement
of
the
pool
was
there
hasn't
been.
Was
that
considered,
obviously
in
the
design
and
everything
that
you
know?
As
far
as
the
pool
was
concerned,
that
you
know.
AD
AD
I,
don't
know
if
considers
the
right
word.
You
know,
I
think
that
the
Architects
built
it
as
you
folks
know,
I
could
still
build
it
within
the
tool
limit
to
just
be
a
smaller
pool
and
it
would
shrink
the
backyard
which
quite
sufficiently
so
I
just
said.
Hey
I
I
feel
personally
as
the
property
owner
that
that
that
that
wall,
that
sea
wall,
that
used
to
be
where
the
ocean
came
up
to
is,
should
be
able
to
fulfill
there
I'm,
not
interfering
with
the
dunes
I'm,
not
trying
to
set
a
precedence.
AD
That's
not
already
established
it's
a
made-up
line
that
doesn't
isn't
consistent
in
the
state.
State
recognizes
that
there
is
this
spot
of
no
man's
land
right.
It
was
this
period
of
what's
of
space
and
literally
two
doors
up.
They
just
demoed
it
all
the
way
up
to
the
Seawall
line.
So
it's
just
there's
just
some
inconsistencies.
Inside
of
it.
I
believe
that
you
know
against
the
the
city
that
they
represented
as
Dooms.
The
neighbors
think
it's
Dunes
I've
invited
some
of
you
Sam.
Are
you
Stan,
yeah
I,
believe
true?
You
have
right
and
we're.
Q
AD
AB
Though
I
mean,
as
you
know
as
you
all
look
at
it
all
the
time,
this
isn't
a
variance.
This
isn't
a
hardship
standard.
There
are
criteria
to
meet
with
respect,
to
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood,
the
patterns
of
development
and
how
it
meets
the
code.
We
feel
that
our
application
and
our
present
presentation
today
and
the
photos
we
provided
show
that
it
meets
that
criteria.
The
staff
talks
about
the
Coastal
policies
and
the
comp
plan
and
not
wanting
impacts
to
dunes
and
vegetations.
AB
AD
Can
I
just
like
it's
one
more?
What
I
would
respectfully
request
is
that
this
isn't
the
final
approval
that
the
state
gives
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
since
their
Coastal
Construction
line
and
their
protection
of
the
Dooms
right.
So
it
is
Melissa
hot
makers,
stance
that
it's
going
to
be
a
hard,
no
because
it
goes
on
top
of
the
Coastal
Construction
students.
AD
AB
B
AG
The
past
this
was
prior
to
the
north
pass
filling
in,
and
the
north
pass
gave
us
all
of
the
sand
from
Sand
Key.
These
islands
are
constantly
in
flux,
ask
the
people
that
were
going
to
see
and
key.
AG
We
got
their
Beach,
so
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
the
coastal,
because
construction
line,
I
I,
really
hate
to
see
it
being
breached
if
it
were
being
breached
for
a
really
really
really
important
reason,
I
might
be
behind
it,
but
the
champagne
breach
because
of
a
pool
kind
of
kind
of
gets
to
me
a
little
bit.
I
mean
it
reminds
me
of.
Why
didn't
you
plan
for
this?
In
the
beginning,
I
mean,
if
that
had
been
planned
and
designed
in
I,
think
you
could
be
creative.
AG
My
girlfriend
built
one
of
the
ones
down
a
little
bit
block
North
of
this.
She
put
the
pool
on
the
roof,
the
guy
across
the
street.
From
me,
he
put
a
cantilever
underneath
this
deck
and
he's
going
to
have
a
great
pool,
pool
and
come
August.
It's
going
to
be
really
cold,
so
be
nice,
but
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
that
I
really
don't
support.
I
can't
because
I
just
feel
this
construction
line
protects
all
of
us
on
the
island.
AG
All
it's
going
to
take
us
for
that
pass
to
open
again,
you
won't
need
a
pool.
You
don't
have
Gulf
of
Mexico
in
your
living
room
and
I
know
that,
because
I
had
my
great
aunt
lived
down
on
El
Dorado
on
the
other
side
of
880
and
I
hated
going
in
her
Florida
room
because
we
sit
there
at
night
and
the
waves
would
go
with
that
sea
wall
and
scare
the
bejeebers
out
of
me.
I
said:
let's
you
know,
go
in
the
kitchen.
AG
I
can't
take
this
anymore,
so
hopefully
it
never
does
open
again,
but
I
I
urge
you
to
reconsider
this.
This
is
not
something
you
really
want
to
breach
the
science,
not
a
reason
to
burn
the
book
on.
Thank
you.
W
AE
Good
afternoon,
Mr
chairman
board
members
City
staff.
My
name
is
Rudy
michaelek
spelled
m-I-c-h-a-l-e-k
I'm
here
to
object
to
the
approval
of
this
program.
First,
the
Florida
Construction
Control
line
is
in
place
to
protect
against
beach
erosion,
destabilizing
Dunes,
damaging
up
land
properties
and.
AE
Public
access
to
protect
Turtles,
Dune
plants-
Etc,
not
just
at
a
moment
in
time,
but
for
the
future
consistency
for
the
future.
Additionally,
section
3109.22
states
in
the
event
of
a
conflict
between
the
coastal
code
and
other
chapters
of
applicable
building
code
Etc,
the
more
restrictive
standards
shall
apply,
in
other
words
the
floral
law.
Secondly,
CDC
section
3-905,
where
the
flexibility
was
requested.
States
no
building
or
structure
shall
be
located.
Seaward
of
the
Coastal
Construction
line,
unless
approved
by
the
state
of
Florida
and
section
c.
AE
AE
So
it
can't
be
that
way
for
that
project
and
now
the
absolute
opposite
for
this
side
of
the
project.
With
these
facts
and
the
staff
recommendations,
we
ask
that
you
reject
this
proposal
and-
and
now
now
is
really
the
time
to
say.
No
I've
I've
seen
a
lot
of
words
used
in
the
presentations
before
you
today,
and
the
concern
is
that
we
keep
stretching
what
in
fact
is
believed
to
be
the
understanding
of
the
code
or
the
interpretation
of
the
code
or,
if
you
would,
the
use
of
the
word.
AE
Flexibility
under
the
code
and
it's
time
to
let
the
Florida
state
law
take
precedent,
and
in
this
case
the
city
really
does
not
have
the
the
jurisdiction,
I
think
or
the
authority
to
now
go
in
and
say
well
what
the
code
should
be
for
the
city.
Is
this
I
think
the
presentation
by
the
city
staff
was
very
specific
to
that
and
continuing
to
just
redraw
the
line
should
not
be
appropriate.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
AH
Good
afternoon
I
appreciate
everyone,
volunteering
and
serving
on
this
board.
My
name
is
Robert
Cantor,
k-a-n-t-o-r
and
I
live
on
North
Clearwater
Beach
717,
El,
Dorado
Avenue,
my
wife
and
I
lived.
There
are
three
boys
we
care
about
the
beach.
We
volunteer,
we're
members
of
the
neighborhood
association.
We
do
Beach
cleanups
garbage
cleanups
I
also
served
went
to
the
Citizens
Academy
here
at
Clearwater,
I
love,
Clearwater
I
also
have
toured
Jason's
property
with
him.
He
was
very
nice
and
very
kind
and
I
appreciate
his
perspective.
AH
AH
I
can't
change
the
past
and
I
can't
accept
whether
it
be
an
interpretation
from
the
homeowner
looking
myself
or
Jason
or
Sam,
or
anyone
whether
that's
no
man's
land
I,
believe
this
long
life
is
an
engineer
and
she
belongs
the
home
with
me
and
we
share
due
diligence
on
this
approval
process
and
our
family
votes.
No,
we
do
not
we're
not
in
favor
of
the
two
requests
for
variances
on
this
property,
unfortunately
to
my
neighbor,
but
we
do
care
about
the
future
I'm
Robert
Cantor
k-a-n-t-o-r.
Thank
you.
U
My
name
is
Shirley
Peterson
p-e-t-e-r-s-e-n-861,
Bruce,
Avenue
and
I've
lived
on
the
beach
since
1996
and
I'm
asking
that
you
protect
the
beach
and
say
no,
that
line
was
put
there
for
a
reason
it's
to
protect
against
erosion.
It
protects
the
turtles,
the
birds,
the
Dune
plants,
and
it
also
protects
the
Inland
properties.
U
Water,
as
we
all
know,
was
a
big
problem
with
storms
on
the
beach
I've,
seen
that
entire
Beach
and
Granada
all
under
water
after
serious
storms
and
I,
really
think
we
need
to
leave
that
line
where
it
is
and
not
change
that
situation
and
also
I'd
like
to
add
it
would
be
a
negative
environmental
impact
to
allow
this
and
create
a
bad
precedence.
Thank
you.
AI
Afternoon,
thank
you.
Community
Development,
board
staff,
Christine
Chris,
michaelek,
m-I-c-h-a-l-e-k,
855,
Bayway,
Boulevard,
Clearwater,
Point
I
only
want
to
say
one
thing:
I've
been
monitoring,
as
my
husband
just
helped
you
this
project
and
I
heard
the
attorney
Katie,
Cole
and
the
owners
say
well,
other
people
have
done
things
to
usurp
the
community
control
line
and
there's
the
there's.
The
the
areas
had
been
damaged
by
other
properties
and
a
whole
list
of
properties.
AI
My,
but
my
point
is
this:
if,
if,
if
other
property
owners
have
done
things
which
were
illegal
which
were
destructive
to
our
environment,
which
are
disrupted
to
our
Bluffs,
which
are
deceptive
to
our
our
our
national
resources,
why
are
we
going
to
say?
Oh,
they
did
it,
let's
excuse
them
and
let's
continue
to
do
something
that
is
destructive
to
our
environment.
Please
do
not
continue
and
support
this
owner's
project,
because
I
think
it
is
a
selfish
project,
not
considering
all
of
us
and
our
natural
resources
here
in
Florida.
Thank
you.
W
W
B
Y
Melissa
hope,
Baker
senior,
planner
I
think
it's
important
to
reiterate
that
any
new
construction
must
meet
the
code.
New
construction
must
comply
with
the
cccl
as
it
is
today,
not
as
it
was
yesterday
or
20
years
ago
or
40
years
ago,
and
it
is
our.
Y
Testimony
that
the
surrounding
area
does
not
have
a
permits
or
a
level
two
planning
application,
such
as
this
seaward
construction
of
the
cccl.
If
that
had
been
the
case,
those
cases
would
have
come
to
this
board.
There
are
only
two
cases
within
the
recent
history
and
the
current
code,
Our
Community
Development
code,
and
that
would
be
three
thousand
feet
to
the
north
and
that
was
1002
El
Dorado
and
1006
El
Dorado,
which
were
approved
by
this
board
to
construct
a
pool
and
a
fence
c
word
of
the
cccl.
Y
Z
Protecting
our
dunes
or
sand
or
vegetation,
that's
on
the
beach
is
important.
Every
time
the
breeze
comes
in
the
winds
come
in
that
vegetation
collects,
more
sand,
builds
up
our
beaches,
and
so
we
have
this
amazing
North,
Clearwater
Beach
area.
We
aren't
like
Indian
Rocks
and
places
down
there
that
you
need
that
beach
renourishment,
because
we
allow
we've
had
these
large
vegetated
areas
and
we
continue
to
encourage
those
areas
to
be
vegetated,
whether
they
have
a
large
Dune
or
small
dunes
or
whatever
they
are.
E
Y
AB
AB
We
absolutely
agree
on
those
we
don't
agree
in
the
city
repeatedly
reminds
you
about
precedent.
The
staff
now
all
of
a
sudden
wants
to
say
that
if
it
never
happened
before
it
can't
happen
now,
if
that
was
the
standard
in
which
you
made
your
decisions,
then
nothing
would
get
approved
here
before
this
board.
AB
This
entire
request
is
based
upon
a
line
that
was
drawn
to
protect
things.
The
applicant
does
not
disagree
with
that.
It's
a
his
request
is
to
use
his
property
in
its
entirety,
not
to
not
to
enforce
a
setback
from
a
setback.
He
already
loses
the
proper
use
of
his
property
c
word
of
the
sea
wall
and
there's
no
reason
based
upon
the
fact
that
there
is
not
vegetative
growth
that
he
should
also
lose
the
use
of
his
property
between
the
seawall
and
the
cccl
or
Florida
statute.
161
is
the
beach
and
Shore
preservation
act.
AB
AB
This
property
is
burdened
by
both
and
the
intent
is
Shoreline
protection,
and
the
request
in
front
of
you
today
does
not
impact
the
dunes
or
the
shoreline
and,
in
fact,
is
a
request
for
the
utilization
of
property,
with
the
evidence
that
was
presented
in
the
application,
which
is
competent,
substantial
evidence,
the
photos
that
were
shown
that
our
late
testimony
and
provided
to
you
as
as
part
of
this
application,
we
would
continue
to
request
your
approval
of
this
application.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
D
V
And
I
guess
a
question
for
staff.
This
is
this:
is
a
tough
one,
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
remember
which
ones
were
approved
prior
to
me
being
on
the
board,
so
my
memory
is
fuzzy,
but
the
previous
cases
that
have
been
approved,
I
heard
the
term
immediate
vicinity.
V
Things
were
approved
in
recent.
You
know
I
think
I
saw
maybe
2021
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
date.
What
what's
the
crate?
This
is
going
to
fall
on
very
close
on
either
side
of
the
line.
So
what's
the
criteria
for
I
guess
what
is
or
is
not
immediate
vicinity
or
why
were
the
cases
approved
again?
Forgive
me
for
not
knowing
the
dates.
You
know.
I
I
understood
a
couple
cases
within
the
last
two
or
three
years.
Y
Correct
there
was
the
property
at
1002
El,
Dorado
Avenue
and
1006
El
Dorado
Avenue
one
was
in
2019
and
one
was
in
2021..
I
was
not
the
case
planner
for
either
one
so
I,
don't
know
every
intimate
detail
of
it,
but
there
was
one
for
a
pool,
and
that
was
the
first
approval
in
that
area
and
the
Coastal
Construction
Control
line
was
last
established
or
re-established
in
20
or
2002.
Y
So
the
state
puts
monuments
out
and
they're
approximately
a
thousand
feet
apart,
and
then
they
connect
the
dots
with
the
line
and
wherever
it
falls
is
where
it
falls.
The
properties
that
are
to
the
north,
1002
and
1006.
The
Coastal
Construction
line
goes
landward
in
a
severe
amount
versus
this
property,
and
so
that
I
think
was
one
of
the
contributing
factors
of
why
that
one
was
approved
is
because
those
properties
are
I,
mean
I.
Think
the
postal
Construction
Control
line
almost
goes
through
some
of
the
houses
at
some
points.
V
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
is
balancing
interpretation
of
Dakota,
obviously
the
property
owners
rights.
Those
approvals,
what's
the
crate
is,
you
know,
I,
think
I
heard
3000
feet
was
the
distance
as
well.
You
know
for
the
immediate
Descent
of
your
neighborhood
is:
is
it
just
subjective
in
terms
of
approval
denying
that
from
the
staff's
standpoint,
or
is
it
a
certain
footage
to
the
property
and
additionally
I
understand
the
CCO?
Had
a
more
aggressive,
I
guess
turn
on
a
couple
of
those
properties?
V
Y
So
immediate
vicinity,
while
it
is
not
an
exact
definition
in
our
CDC
code,
the
noticing
that
occurs
for
all
level
two
applications
is
a
250
foot
perimeter
from
the
subject.
Property
and
those
are
the
properties
that
are
noticed
directly
with
a
letter.
E
E
N
For
instance,
770,
the
gentleman
that
spoke
looking
at
his
concrete
is
all
the
way
to
the
sea
wall
as
well.
J
Y
So
I
was
it's
not
involved
with
that
project,
so
I
can't
really
speak
to
it,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
cccl
line.
Y
This
is
a
graphic
actually
from
fdep,
and
that
shows
the
line
within
the
area
of
the
subject
property.
It
does
not
go
down
all
the
way
down
to
include
Beach
Walk.
The
subject.
Property
is
approximately
right
here
and
you
can
see
how
the
line
goes
landward,
and
this
is
where
1002
and
1006
Eldorado,
or
that
was
contributing
to
why
those
records
were
approved.
Y
F
Y
K
AA
Hello,
Kevin
Garrett
with
the
planning
and
development
tournament.
I,
don't
know,
I've
heard
in
the
20s
too
and
I've
seen
some
of
those
pictures
where
the
sea
wall
is
like
from
the
beach
area
to
the
top
of
the
sea
wall
like
six
feet
or
so,
but
I
I,
don't
know
what
year
I
can't
verify
that.
B
Since
you're
up
here,
one
of
the
things
I'm
having
some
consternation
about
on
both
sides
of
this
is
and
prior
to
my
site,
inspection
going
out
there
I
expected
to
see
Dunes,
I'm
gonna,
be
honest
with
you
and
everything
else,
and
when
I
took
a
picture
of
it
actually
being
there
too
and
walking
behind
this
house,
it's
basically
a
construction
site
I
mean
similar
to
the
picture
that
was
up
here
and
I'm
curious
with
the
background
and
development
too.
We
protect
our
trees.
We
do
this
stuff.
B
When
somebody
comes
in
for
pulling
a
building
permit,
we
have
to
put
up
three
barricades
and
we
have
to
do
those
things
if
this
this
and
you're
not
going
to
get
anybody.
Folks,
that's
going
to
fight
for
the
Sea
Oats,
the
turtles
more
than
I'm,
going
to
as
well
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
the
truth,
but
why
aren't
we
requiring
Construction
at
the
CCL
line
barriers
there?
If
it's
that
important
to
us
as
a
city
to
make
that?
B
Why
aren't
we
putting
that
to
something
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
so
that
would
make
a
statement
as
well
on
this
I
mean
we're
looking
at
this
thing
as
it
was
brought
up,
which
I
didn't
realize
was
this
area
was
completely
under
concrete.
You
know
prior
to
it,
but
if
we're,
if
we're
forcing
that
CCL
line
to
protect
it,
we
should
be
putting
barricades
up
requiring
like
we
do
for
tree
barricades,
and
that's
just
my
thought.
AA
Z
So
I
I
don't
know
when
what
phase
of
construction
this
is.
Generally
speaking,
it
is
a
requirement
of
the
city
to
have
construction
erosion
control
like
having
open
area
like
sand
to
be
able
to
blow
around,
like
that's
that's
part
of
our
rules
and
so
I,
don't
know
exactly
why
there
isn't
some
construction
protection
on
well.
B
I
understand
that
on
the
sea
wall,
where
it
would
be
now
because
that's
where
the
sand
is
but
we're
saying
the
CCL
line
is
land
word
of
the
and,
if
that's
the
case
that
we're
enforcing
it
and
I
could
see
why
we
didn't
have
it.
But
if
it's
that
important,
even
though
it
was
under
it,
was
concrete,
we
should
still
say
when
that
concrete's
pulled.
You
know
you
can't
have
equipment
going
seaward
of
the
cut
like
we
can
with
three
barricades.
B
D
AB
One
clarification:
silk
fence
along
the
sea
wall
and
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
down,
but
the
contractor
will
address
that
and
secondly,
Mr
Gary
I
did
mention.
Dunes
would
have
to
be
replaced.
There
were
no
Dunes,
it
was
under
conquer
under
concrete
there's,
nothing
to
replace.
AB
D
C
AB
Candidly,
because
it
was
all
concrete
and
because
there's
a
sea
wall
there
that
separates
it
and
because
dep
is
the
one
that
approves
whether
there
would
actually
be
an
impact
to
Dunes.
I.
Think
that
the
applicant
felt
this
was
not
a
significant
of
an
Ask
as
apparently
the
staff
feels
it
is
to
build
a
pool
on
concrete.
V
AB
B
K
K
Well,
I
guess:
I'll
I'll
start
just
some
observations,
I
I,
understand
the
applicants,
focus
on
the
Sea
World
and
and
that
there
was
a
pad
up
to
it.
I
had
the
opportunity
in
a
little
picture
on
the
applicant's
PowerPoint
reminded
me
of
this.
When
you
look
at
the
sea
wall
along
that
part
of
North
Beach
and
the
picture
that
was
provided
in
the
slide,
it's
the
top
of
the
sea
wall
is
even
with
the
land,
so
it
was
built
in
the
1920s.
K
We
don't
know
exactly
what
year,
but
certainly
it
served
a
purpose
at
the
time
that
it
was
built
to
keep
water
off
the
beach,
and
if
you
walk
along
that
part
of
North
Beach
you'll
see
some
places
like
the
picture.
They
showed
it's
even
the
land.
The
sand
is
even
with
the
sea
wall
today,
some
places
it
comes
up,
it's
very
even
uneven
it.
It
really,
in
my
opinion,
is
at
this
point
obsolete.
K
We've
we've
had
considerably
more
development
from
Clearwater
Beach
since
the
1920s
when
the
seawall
was
built,
and-
and
this
is
a
more
recent-
the
Coastal
Construction
line
line
to
adhere
to
for
continued
construction,
I
think
with
the
the
growth
and
the
development
of
the
beach
over
the
years
that
it's
important
for
us
to
continue
to
respect
that
line
and
not
deviate,
not
deviate
for
for
this.
For
this
application,
so
I
will
vote
to
to
deny
and
support
the
staff's
recommendation
to
deny
the
application.
F
F
Do
not
want
to
impact
what
you're
trying
to
do,
but
I
have
to
look
at
the
big
picture
here
in
various
effects.
I
do
have
a
discrepancy
on
what
dep
and
final
approval
I
did
speak
to
them,
and
we
do
have
to
I,
don't
know
who
you
spoke
to,
but
they
did
specifically
tell
me
that
based
off
what
we
approve
or
not,
that
they
would
go
with
it,
that
that,
based
off
what
they've
seen
in
Sarasota
and
what
the
city
has
done
and
the
encroachment
over
the
Coastal
Construction
line
there,
it's
completely
different.
F
As
far
as
the
dunes
are
concerned,
you
don't
have
to
have
a
dune
right
up
against
to
not
obviously
see
that
there
still
needs
to
be
some
easement
there
with
what's
going
on
with
beach
erosion
and
how
the
sand
and
how
the
wind
and
how
Dunes
get
developed,
Dunes
change.
There
are
some
houses
there
that
don't
have
a
dune
in
front
of
it
at
all,
but
also
that
sand
needs
to
be
protected.
So,
as
Mr
Rector
talked
about
you
know,
those
concerns
are
my
concerns
too.
Especially,
there
is
a
precedence.
F
G
Yes,
I
actually
worked
on
the
Coastal
Construction
Site
line
with
my
father.
We
did
513
miles
with
the
coast.
This
was
just
a
piece
I
read
the
report.
I
read
the
requirements
for
the
contract
that
we
had,
specifically
as
a
Construction
Construction
setback
line,
Coastal
Construction
setback
line,
no
vertical
construction,
nothing
beyond
that
and
I
understand
the
intent
and
I
agree
with
what
everybody's
saying
it's.
If
we,
if
we
every
time,
we
make
a
little
exception,
the
next
exception
is
a
little
more.
The
next
exception
is
a
little
bit
more.
AA
D
B
W
V
This
is
a
tough
one
for
me.
I
I
I've
got
a
number
of
concerns
I'm
on
both
sides.
I
I
share
their
concerns
regarding
the
environmental
impact,
practically
speaking,
based
upon
my
site
visit
I.
Don't
necessarily
see
that
logically,
but
I
also
don't
claim
to
be
an
expert
in
the
long-term
ramifications
of
that.
I
do
have
concerns
on
the
precedent.
Unfortunately,
I
see
it
going
both
directions
and
you
know
we
mentioned.
V
We
have
to
draw
a
line
in
the
sand
at
some
point,
but
I
also
do
think
previous
rulings
do
matter
because
at
some
point
we're
penalizing
someone
so
with
that.
Quite
frankly,
I
I'd
like
to
believe
that
the
applicant
in
the
city
could
work
something
out
so
that
we're
not
put
in
a
position
to
have
to
interpret
what
I
think
is
a
somewhat
ambiguous
code,
but
unfortunately
that
was
not
done
so
we're
put
in
the
position
of
making
a
vote
today.
V
I
think
it's
a
bad
precedent,
both
directions
and
I.
Don't
I
almost
plug
my
nose
a
little
bit
making
a
vote,
but
I
I
feel
it's
overstepping
our
bounds
as
cdb
board
members
to
rule
when
I
read
the
code,
that
was
references
as
no
building
or
structure
shall
be
located,
see
what
are
the
Coastal
Construction
line
unless
approved
by
the
state
of
Florida
I've
heard
a
number
of
interpretations
of
the
code,
but
I
don't
think
it's
clear
on
what
the
actual
rule
is
and
I
don't
want
to.
V
I
just
want
to
make
1.2
my
past
experience.
I've
had.
B
Experience
with
the
fdep
and
I
can
only
go
by
what's
there
just
for
a
point
of
clarification
in
what
you're
talking
there
too
and
speaking
with
the
gentleman
that
actually
would
be
permitting
this
case
an
fdep
they
make
their
decision
just
so
you
know
it
too.
They
make
their
decisions
solely
on
what
is
presented
to
them,
and
that
was
verbatim
to
him
whether
or
not
we
voted
to
approve
it
or
not,
or
if
we
did
approve
it.
B
Sorry,
if
we
not,
it
doesn't
get
there,
but
I
I,
you
know
have
much
consternation,
as
everybody
else
has
stated
up
here
too,
on
some
of
the
matters
on
it
to
the
precedent.
Spot
I
mean
you
know,
I
hate
to
do
it
as
far
as
I
know,
it's
immediate
location,
but
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
considerable
vote
here.
So.
C
All
right,
yeah,
I'm
kind
of
curious,
because
if
what
is
the
point
of
us
even
having
this
before
us,
if
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
something,
yeah
I,
don't
know
how
we
even
got
here,
but
fdp
cannot
approve
it
or
do
not
have
to
EP
will
not
approve
it.
If
there
is
not
a
clear
water
approval.
D
Follow
me,
so
this
is
a
first
step,
a
first
Domino
twofold.
If
that
Domino
doesn't
fall
forward,
it
doesn't
reach.
Fdep
is
my
understanding
of
the
code
right,
an
fdep
and
those
that
deal
with
this
more
than
I
do
can
correct
me,
won't
look
at
it
until
you
look
at
it.
It
logically
seems
like.
Maybe
you
should
go
to
the
state
first,
they
don't
do
it
that
way.
Exactly.
O
V
And
that's
my
concern.
You
mentioned
the
the
idea
of
construction
happening.
It's
just
like
a
tree
barricade
or
whatever
I
agree.
That's
a
good
rule
or
code.
The
city
should
look
at
to
follow.
I,
also
think.
If
it's
the
city
position,
then
maybe
a
changing
of
the
code.
I,
don't
I'm
not
going
to
be
an
expert
on
how
that
happens
or
how
long
that
would
take,
but
right
now,
I
think
and
I
I
hate
going
against
staff,
because
I
acknowledge
they
do
a
great
job.
V
I
think
this
is
the
first
time
I've
ever
done
that,
but
it
seems
to
me
I'm
being
asked
to
make
a
broad
interpretation
of
a
rule
that
I
don't
know,
is
fully
clear
in
the
guidelines
so
with
with
much
consternation
as
you've
said
numerous
times,
I
I,
just
it's
outside
of
our
purview
and
I
I,
can't
hold
it
up.
When
there's
a
higher
authority,
that's
ultimately
going
to
approve
or
disapprove
this.
This
case
is.
F
C
Occur
will
yours
will
your
report
go
to
dep.
O
AB
Certainly
so
believe
me,
we
tried
to
get
a
dep
permit
before
we
came
to,
to
you
all
admit,
rest
assured,
but
no,
the
dep
permit
has
specific
criteria
for
review.
That
is
very
under
the
statute,
which
is
goes
through
the
criteria
with
respect
to
impact
to
the
dunes
in
the
environmental
impact,
and
they
make
a
decision
based
on
the
Florida
administrative
code.
AB
N
B
We
well
maybe
we
can
answer
it.
G
We
can
discuss
it,
maybe
is,
are
we
what's?
The
city's
is
a
city
charged
with
enforcing
the
Coastal
Construction
setback
line
by
the
state?
Is
it
part
of
our
zoning?
Is
part
of
any
of
our
ordinances?
Does
any
of
our
ordinances
suggest
the
Coastal
Construction,
or
is
it
just
reference
it,
and
it's
a
state
issue.
E
AJ
G
C
E
K
I
mean
we
can
keep
going
on
about
this,
but
Mr
chairman
I'll,
move
to
that
case
number
here.
This
is
the
first
me
too,
deny
case
number
fld2022,
Dash,
11028,
based
on
evidence
and
testimony
presented
in
the
application,
the
staff
report
and
at
today's
hearing
and
hereby
adopt
the
finals
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
all
stated
in
the
staff
report
is.
AB
Mr
chair,
yes
before
you
call
for
a
vote
and
I
was
conferring
with
staff.
This
request
has
two
pieces:
a
non-opaque
fence,
meaning
a
clear
fence
along
the
sea
wall,
That's
reflected
on
the
plans
as
well
as
the
pool
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
bifurcate.
If,
if
Mr
director
might
be
willing
to
bifurcate
his
motion,
because
in
the
event
the
applicant
wishes
to
come
back
and
propose
a
pool
landlord
of
the
cccl,
a
fence
is
still
required
and
we'll
be
right
back
here.
Having
this
conversation
about
the
fence.
W
O
I
mean
there's
other
ways
to
secure
the
pool
to
meet
the
building
code
requirements
for
securing
the
code
that
you
can
go
through
a
full
page,
there's
other
ways
to
secure
it.
I
think
the
whole
point
is
that
they
want
to
extend
the
fence
Beyond
to
the
property
line
and
potentially
coming
out
of
beyond
the
property
line,
but
to
the
property
line
and
then
putting
along.
B
K
Q
B
D
K
B
K
For
to
allow
the
applicant
to
construct
an
opaque
fence
described
in
its
application,
based
on
the
evidence
and
to
to
construct
the
OPEC
fence
seaward
of
the
Coastal
Construction
line,
based
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented
in
the
application,
the
staff
report
and
at
today's
hearing
and
hereby
adopt
the
findings
of
fact.
In
conclusions
of
the
law
stated
in
the
staff
Report.
With
conditions
of
approval.
As
listed.
D
B
B
B
The
Community
Development
board
is
reviewing
a
proposed
pool
and
a
four
foot
non-opaque
fence,
as
accessory
to
an
existing
detached
dwelling
to
be
located.
Seaward
of
the
Coastal
Construction
Control
line
in
the
low
medium
density,
residential
district
for
the
property
located
at
780
El
Dorado
Avenue,
the
project
requests,
flexibility
for
construction,
seaward
of
the
ccco
associations
are
in
need:
Clearwater,
neighborhoods,
Coalition,
Board
of
County
Commissioners,
Pinellas,
County
school
board,
Clearwater
Beach,
Association
assigned
planner
is
Melissa
hot
Baker
senior
planner.
Is
there
anybody
requesting
party
status
on
this
case,
seeing
none?
B
E
Difference
between
these
properties
that
are
in
front
of
us,
let
me
swear
in
my
witness
real
quick
since
we're
going
to
ask
a
few
questions
at
this
time.
I
would
ask
that
the
board
except
Miss
Melissa
hot
Baker,
as
a
expert
witness
and
general
planning
zoning
Redevelopment
planning,
land
of
the
Land
Development
code
and
Land
Development
code
amendments,
special
area
plans
and
overlay
districts,
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture,
historic
preservation
and
comprehensive
sign
programs.
K
Y
Good
afternoon
Melissa
Howe
Baker
senior
planner
the
case
before
you
is
very
similar
to
the
case
that
we
just
spent
a
little
bit
of
time
on
the
difference
being
this
property.
While
it
is
on
the
west
side
of
El
Dorado,
it
is
at
the
intersection
with
mango
and
it
is
60
feet
of
Frontage,
whereas
776
was
90
feet
of
Frontage.
So
this
property
is
a
little
bit
smaller
than
the
prior
application.
Y
Y
The
distance
between
the
pool
and
the
house
varies
as
the
the
house
has
pavers,
and
then
it
steps
back
into
where
you
know
the
wall
of
the
house.
So
there
is
additional
space
landward
of
the
cccl,
but
I
don't
think
it
would
accommodate
the
entire
pool.
As
it's
designed
at
16
feet
by
16
feet,
it
would
need
to
be
slightly
adjusted.
B
B
N
What
is
the
improvements,
I
guess,
east
of
the
sea
wall
at
this
current
time.
AB
And
for
the
record
Katie
Cole,
he
award
Henderson
600
Cleveland
Street
representing
the
applicant,
in
addition
to
incorporating
the
evidence
and
presentation
that,
from
the
prior
case,
I
would
like
to
point
out
a
couple
of
distinctions.
One.
This
is
an
existing
home.
It's
not
new
construction,
so
you've
heard
Mr
Gary
on
speak
at
the
prior
case.
With
respect
to
the
angle
of
repose.
It
is
a
specific
issue
here.
The
pool
cannot
be
this.
This
home
is
an
original
home
to
the
beach
area.
AB
It
was
not
built
on
piling,
so
the
pool's
location
close
to
the
home
is
of
concern
to
the
structure
of
the
home.
Secondly,
as
you
can
see
from
the
picture,
the
concrete
deck
was
removed
from
this
home
in
anticipation
of
the
installation
of
a
pool
here,
and
so
that's
why
there
is
just
the
groom
sand.
It's
not
natural
in
that
manner.
The
seawall
still
exists.
You
can
see,
and
actually
Mr
Rector
pointed
out
that
the
sand
was
up
to
to
the
sea
wall
That's,
because
our
the
applicant
has
already
removed
the
seawall
cap.
AB
It's
not
because
the
sand
has
risen
that
far
up
it's,
because
the
applicant
did
remove
the
seawall
cap
so
underneath
there
is
where
the
sand
is
I
think
there
were
some
photos
that
you
saw
in
the
last
Apple
in
the
last
presentation
that
incorporated
that
we
do
feel
that
factually
this
is
distinguishable,
that
there
are
site
constraints.
That
would
require
the
pool
to
be
more
seaward
than
is
possible
otherwise,
and
which
is
why
the
request
is
so.
We
would
still
request
your
approval.
W
D
AE
I
guess
I
will
cut
in
half
of
my
comments
simply
to
refer
to
the
fact
that
3109.2.2
says
that
in
the
conflict
between
Coastal
and
the
city,
Coastal
always
wins.
Therefore,
the
city
should
not
Advance
any
theorem.
Also
under
3-905,
no
building
or
structure
shall
be
located,
seaward
of
the
Coastal
Construction
line,
unless
approved
by
the
state
of
Florida,
and
the
third
point
is
that
it
also
3109.2.2
calls
for
an
18-foot
setback
for
more
existing
sea
walls.
AE
Now
in
the
past,
evidently
some
things
got
blurried
and
may
have
been
adjusted
in
one
way
or
another,
but
as
I
mentioned
before,
this
is
about
what's
happening
today
and
going
forward
and
and
I
really
appreciated
the
fact
that
the
board
took
that
big
picture
approach
in
the
previous
presentation
that
was
made
and
look
forward
to
them
doing
the
same
at
this
time.
So
I
ask
that
you
deny
it
thank.
B
K
K
Fld2023-01002
with
respect
to
the
application
for
a
four
foot,
non-opaque
fence
to
be
installed,
seaward
of
the
coastal
construct,
Coastal
Construction
Control
line
along
the
existing
sea
rule
based
on
the
evidence
and
testimony
presented
at
the
in
the
application.
The
staff
report
into
today's
hearing
and
hereby
adopt
the
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
stated
in
the
staff
Report
with
conditions
of
approval.
As
listed.
B
D
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
B
B
And
spraying
really
good,
we're
back
in
all
right
just
got
an
informative
to
give
the
applicants
a
little
heads
up
we're
going
to
go
because
we
have
some
cases
pulled
and
in
order
we're
going
to
go
with
50
North,
Osceola
Avenue
and
then
the
708
North,
Osceola
Avenue
and
then
805
South,
Gulfview
Avenue.
So
the
first
case
Zoom
is
case.
B
Well
he'll
be
informative
about
party
status
is,
is
something
that
did
you
get
a
notice
of
this
particular
directly.
So
if
you
lived
within
200
feet
of
the
property
that
was
being
done,
you
would
have
got
a
notice
from
in
the
mail.
I
I'm
Charles
Bryant
Goldsmith
I
am
the
former
Adjunct
professor
Department
of
architecture
and
Community
planning
University
of
South
Florida
I
do
want
to
register
objection
to
the
proposed
development.
Well,
Alana
said
also
could
I
just
you
need
an
address.
I
B
K
O
Good
afternoon,
Gina,
Clayton,
Planning
and
Development
back
in
May
of
2022
city
council
did
a
call
of
development,
Concepts
and
ultimately
selected
a
development
team
and
entered
into
a
development
agreement
for
the
Redevelopment
of
the
former
Harborview
site
and
City
Hall
site
and,
as
you
recall,
the
Community
Development
board
held
a
public
caring
on
that
development
agreement
and
made
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
city
council.
Today,
the
site
plan
for
the
Harbor
View
parcel
is
before
the
board
for
review
and
action.
O
The
site
is
1.348
Acres
an
area
and
it
has
Frontage
on
both
Coachman
Park
and
Osceola
Avenue,
and
it
also
is
adjacent
to
a
city-owned
parking
lot.
This
proposal
includes
two
buildings.
There
is
a
tower
on
the
north
side
of
the
property,
which
is
proposed
to
11
stories
and
approximately
146
feet
in
height
that
building
includes
158
unit
hotel
with
event
space,
as
well
as
9
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
intended
primarily
for
food
and
beverage
uses
that
will
be
operated
separately
from
the
hotel.
O
The
South
Tower
is
two
stories,
it's
43
feet
in
height
and
it
includes
approximately
1200
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
and
both
of
these
buildings
have
four
areas
areas.
The
development
agreement
allows
for
the
hotel
to
be
157
feet
in
height
and
the
south
building
to
be
53
feet
in
height,
access
to
the
site
will
be
provided
through
the
city
and
parking
lot.
That's
to
the
north.
O
The
downtown
plan
established
a
public
amenities
incentive
pool
that
provides
additional
development
potential,
while
assisting
the
public
to
achieve
our
Redevelopment
goals
and
it
authorized
the
Community
Development
board
to
allocate
the
pool
based
on
a
list
of
eligible
and
amended
and
those
are
set
forth
in
the
plan.
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
allocation
of
43
units
from
the
pool
to
achieve
the
158th
hotel
rooms.
This
allocation
would
result
in
a
side
density
of
129
hotel
rooms
per
acre
where
95
is
allowed.
O
O
with
this,
though,
I
would
note
that
there
is
no
change
in
the
actual
number
of
hotels
that
you
all
recommended
approval
to
City
Council
of
in
the
development
agreement,
and
that
city
council
ultimately
approved
the
type
of
amenities.
As
I
said
for
this,
additional
development
potential
are
outlined
in
the
downtown
plan,
and
this
project
incorporates
quite
a
few
of
those
import,
their
significant
public
space,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
drawing
on
the
site
that
will
be
accessible
to
the
public
for
Gathering
and
dining
programming.
That
also
provides
direct
access
into
Coachman
Park.
AK
O
Mixed-Use
project
will
establish
active
Edge
on
Coachman
Park
and
contribute
to
downtown
an
entertainment
destination
which
is
part
of
the
vision
for
the
downtown
court.
In
the
plan,
this
mix
of
Hotel,
commercial,
food
and
beverage
uses
and
event
space
will
attract
a
steady
flow
of
visitors
to
the
area
and
activate
the
site.
This
project,
along
with
a
newly
renovated
Coachman
Park,
will
really
be
a
catalyst
for
downtown
making
it
a
vibrant
and
active
place
and
we're
hoping
that
it
will
bridge
the
gap
that
has
separated
the
Waterfront
for
to
the
heart
of
downtown.
O
AG
O
The
applicant
is
requesting
flexibility
from
approved
a
few
provisions
of
downtown
code.
There's
some
flexibility
requested
to
provide
setbacks,
larger
than
actually
required
and
the
code.
These
are
all
detailed
and
the
staff
report,
but
basically
these
these
larger
setbacks
are
being
provided
because
of
the
public
access
that
is
being
provided
on
the
site.
The
staff
believes
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
approved
development
agreement
governing
the
site
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
city's
downtown
Redevelopment
goals
and
development
standards
and
staff
is
recommending
approval.
B
All
right
now,
we'll
go
to
since
applicant
planning
are
basically
the
same
presentation
by
persons
with
party
status,
which
would
be
Mr
Goldsmith.
This
is
your
time.
I
As
no
goodbye,
my
address
at
Water's
Edge
I'm
on
a
North
facing
unit
so
I'm
directly
affected
by
and
here
the
implications
of
the
noise
of
the
music
and
the
sounds
that
are
coming
from
quote
the
sound
it
did
make
an
impact.
The
sounds
that
are
coming
out
of
this
new
development
are
obsessive.
They,
although
they
are
facing
to
the
east,
the
sound
does
go
through
penetrate
and
affect
the
residents
you
can
hear.
The
low
bass
sounds
in
addition,
any
additional
noise.
I
I
I
You
could
people
going
south
or
trying
to
progress
Osceola,
making
a
turn
to
Osceola
stopped
by
Clearwater
Police
inside
the
Pierce
line
had
no
place
to
turn
around.
They
had
to
go
into
the
water's
edge.
Driveway
back
out
come
back
again
facing
south.
That
happened
all
during
the
opening
of
the
sound.
It
certainly
cannot
be
improved
with
the
addition
of
this
Construction.
I
The
traffic
coming
on
Fort
Harrison
coming
north
was
also
Impossible
on
the
next
day.
None
of
these
additions
are
going
to
improve
that
traffic
and
now,
with
Drew
Street
being
proposed
as
a
single
Lane
Street,
which
to
many
of
us,
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense,
but
that
is
what
the
proposal
is
and
with
the
street
being
further
impacted.
I
We
feel
that
that
will
be
a
problem
to
residents
trying
to
get
in
and
out
of
Water's
Edge,
whether
the
new
arrangement
impacts,
the
voters
of
Clearwater
is
yet
to
be
determined,
but
it
certainly
is
different
than
what
was
originally
proposed
and
whether
that
will
stand
an
appeal.
I
don't
know,
but
we
would
certainly
like
to
preserve
the
fact
that
there
is
the
availability
of
an
appeal.
I
have
no
idea
what
Provisions
have
been
made
to
modify
proposed
music
coming
off
of
this
new
facility
in
the
beer
garden,
which
will
certainly
impact
the
sound.
I
AB
Hopefully,
not
okay,
we
will
good
afternoon
Katie
Cole
hillward
Henderson
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
the
denunzio
group
and
Gotham
and
with
me
here
today
is
Robert
pergolizzi,
a
transportation
planner
Mark,
caliber,
PE
and
Ken
cower
the
architect
of
record
for
this
project.
I
don't
want
to
belabor,
but
do
you
want
to
be
very
specific
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised?
AB
We
concur
with
the
conditions
of
approval
of
the
staff
report
in
the
staff
analysis
also
included
in
your
application
was
a
significant
narrative
which
goes
through
each
of
the
criteria
of
the
downtown
on
design
guidelines
and
how
this
proposal
meets
each
one
of
those
criteria.
It
specifically
has
a
section
that
goes
through
each
one
of
the
requests
for
flexibility
and
how
each
one
of
the
proposals
meets
the
criteria
for
the
request
for
flexibility
that
we're
here
today
to
ask
you
again.
AB
The
specific
s
today
is
for
the
approval
of
the
site
plan
for
the
grant
of
the
extra
density
units
to
accommodate
the
150
150
units
per
post.
152
units
proposed.
Eight
sorry-
and
the
reason
that's
here
before
you
today
is
because
last
year,
when
the
city
entered
into
a
development
agreement
with
respect
to
this,
that's
how
the
code
read
is
that
this
board
needed
to
approve
that
Grant
based
upon
the
code
amendments
that
have
occurred
over
the
past
six
months
to
facilitate
downtown
Redevelopment.
That
is
no
longer
the
case.
So
is
this.
AB
Application
were
to
come
absent
the
criteria
in
the
development
agreement.
It
would
not
have
been
before
this
board.
That
said,
we
are
sensitive
to
the
concerns
raised.
Mr
porglesi
is
here
the
application,
and
the
record
includes
a
traffic
study
that
was
reviewed
that
was
prepared
by
Mr
perlisi
and
his
firm.
It
was
reviewed
by
the
city
and
in
fact,
this
past
month
we
went
back
and
forth
on
some
of
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
staff
report.
AB
As
you
heard
there
was,
there
seems
to
be
concern
about
the
sound
generally
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
factually
about
the
construction
timeline
candidly.
We
don't
know
what
the
traffic
impact
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
sound.
It's
only
been
open
for
a
month.
The
hotel
is
still
like
three
four
four
years,
three
years
away
from
being
open,
perhaps
and
so
the
expectation
that
we
can
resolve
a
traffic
issue
today.
That
is
simply
unknown.
Based
on
the
development
pattern
is
unrealistic.
We've
continued
to
work
with
staff.
AB
The
city
is
working
on
its
Osceola
Avenue
plan.
I,
don't
know
engineering
directors
here,
but
we've
been
talking
through
those
types
of
improvements.
All
the
parking
is
captured
on
site
and
will
be
accessed
through
the
library
parking
lot
and
won't
be
accessed
adjacent
to
Water's
Edge.
So
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
If
there's
no
questions
we're
going
to
cross-examination
of
witnesses
by
Planning
and
Development
staff
or
anything
cross-examination
by
applicant
and
cross-examination
by
Mr,
Goldsmith
anybody's,
with
party
status,
we'll
open
the
conversation
comments
by
the
public
three
minutes
per
person.
If
anybody
has
any
comments
about
this
particular
case,
if
not,
if
there's
any
closing
remarks.
AL
AL
My
concern
is
yet
again
which
I
communicated
before
on
the
traffic
patterns,
Drew
Street
becoming
a
single
Highway
type
situation,
two-way,
Road,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
just
don't
see
how
we
the
people
that
live
close
by
we
haven't
seen
any
of
these
studies.
We
haven't
seen
the
consequences
of
what's
coming.
You
can
actually
mitigate
the
future.
You
can
actually
see
how
it's
going
to
look.
It's
absurd
to
not
be
able
to
plan
and
see
how
those
things
impact
the
future.
Otherwise
you
wouldn't
create
communities.
AL
You
measure
that
by
the
future
and
how
it
impacts
and
I
just
don't
see
that
that's
being
done
here
and
I,
don't
see
the
consideration
being
taken
for
those
of
us
that
do
actually
live
play
walk.
This
is
our
home.
It's
like
your
backyard.
It's
what
you
would
see
when
you
walked
out
of
your
front
door,
not
your
neighbor's
house,
but
like
your
neighbor
and
the
sound
and
how
that
impacts.
It's
a
huge
deal
and
it's
not
something
to
be
taken
lightly.
I,
don't
believe
you
know
this
going
up.
We
can't
stop
it.
AL
So
there
is
a
problem.
I,
don't
think
it's
been
thought
through
my
personal
opinion.
I
do
hope
you
will
consider
everything
before
moving
forward.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
involved.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
involved
but
I
do
ask
you
to
be
considerate
kind
for
us
that
live
here
and
that's
my
communication.
That's
all
thank
you.
W
X
Hello,
my
name
is
Carla
Dana
d-a-n-a
I've
lived
in
Clearwater,
all
my
life
and
I'm,
not
an
engineer
or
City
Planning
expert,
but
over
the
course
of
my
life.
I
have
seen
an
increase
in
traffic
I
personally,
don't
go
to
Clearwater
Beach
on
the
weekends,
unless
I
wake
up
at
7,
A.M
and
view
the
traffic
and
I'm
out
of
there
before
it's
overrun
with
tourists
and
I.
X
Just
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
to
downtown
Clearwater
I'm,
not
against
development,
but
I
think
that
the
infrastructure
we
have
right
now
in
Clearwater
is
not
set
to
sustain
such
an
increase
in
traffic
and
people.
So
I'm,
not
against
development.
But
I
would
like
to
see
it
done
in
the
correct
way
and
otherwise
I'm
going
to
start
clear
up
downtown
Clearwater
as
well
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
fair
to
the
current
residence
of
Clearwater.
AE
Hi
everybody,
my
colleague,
I,
won't
spell
it
again,
I
think
we're
already
there
I
just
noticed
as
I
was
reading
this,
that
there's
158
units
169
parking
spots,
but
50
of
those
parking
spots
are
dedicated
to
the
public
and
so
I'm
a
little
surprised
that
the
number
of
parking
spots
in
essence
would
be
119
for
158
rooms.
So
that's
just
a
question.
I'm
throwing
out.
J
I'm,
a
resident
of
State
five
North
Osceola
Avenue
hi
I'm,
not
against
development.
All
I
wanted
to
see
if
there's
any
development,
that
it
suits
the
character
and
the
structure
for
Clearwater
since
Coachman
Park
opened,
it's
been
pretty
noisy
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
traffic
and
we're
really
used
to
that.
But
again
we
welcome
any
new
traffic
that
is
manageable
but
also
considered
of
where
we
stay
and
like
Monica
said
it
is
our
backyard,
as
is
where
we
live.
J
We
have
no
nowhere
else
to
go
and
I
do
feel
that
putting
a
big
construction
like
that
needs
to
be
reviewed
so
that
it
actually
suits.
If
I
remember,
one
of
the
statues
said
it
needs
to
suit
the
character
of
the
environment
and
this
big
construction
that's
gorgeous,
but
it
doesn't
suit.
For
me,
it
doesn't
suit
the
character
if
I
was
to
offer
a
suggestion.
I
would
make
it
shorter
and
on
15
stories
to
obstruct
and
Abstract
certain
view
views
of
the
bay
but
I'm,
not
a
designer.
J
Another
thing
I
would
like
to
add,
is
having
a
beer
hall
there.
That
is
added
to
the
to
the
music
venue.
Just
I,
don't
I,
don't
view
Halls,
don't
usually
connotate
well
with
behavior,
so
then
again
it'd
be
like
okay.
Are
they
going
to
be
fights
in
the
vehicle?
Are
they
going
to
be
ratty
nice
late
nice,
though
the
police
going
to
be
with
their
lights?
You
know
flashing
at
night.
J
N
N
O
C
I
have
another
question:
is
there
any
plans
for
any
additional
Park.
AL
O
B
N
N
B
Q
F
O
I've
seen
those
is
working
on
something
that's
looking
at
the
city
as
a
whole.
Do
you
have
any
information
good.
AC
Afternoon,
Lauren,
matsky,
Planning
and
Development
I
can't
speak
to
it
specifically
other
than
we've
been
working
with
a
consultant.
Do
you
attract
to
do
a
detailed
traffic
model
of
the
entire
city
that
could
be
used
for
all
different
purposes,
including
this
and
I
know
that
they
presented
part
of
that
city
council
at
work
session
on
Monday,
but
I
couldn't
speak
to
the
details,
but
it
is
again
the
city
thus
being
able
to
look
at
all
of
this
and
hope
that
they've
also
done
specific
modeling
for
downtown
I.
AC
The
model
is
pretty
much
is
in
pretty
good
shape.
AC
We
all
provided
feedback
to
for
Pinellas
and
the
generation
of
those
latest
projections,
which
include
all
of
the
new
development
that
is,
we
have
seen
so
or
no
is
coming
in
the
pipeline,
or
at
least
applications
are
pinning
or
we've
had
conversations.
So
we
try
to
be
as
complete
as
possible.
Not
just
you
know
what
has
been
a
proof
of
what
do
we
foresee,
because
again
we
also
look
for
this
data
and
utilize
it
in
many
other
ways.
Beyond,
just
traffic.
O
AM
AB
Yes,
I'm
making
my
way
up
here,
Mr
director.
Thank
you.
The
development
agreement
between
the
applicant
and
developer
and
the
city
has
specific
noise
restrictions
in
it
to
not
for
two
reasons.
One
is
an
acknowledgment
of
the
residential
nature
of
the
condos
across
the
street,
from
the
hotel,
as
well
as
Water's
Edge,
but
secondly,
in
an
effort
to
not
compete
with
the
sound.
So
with
respect
to
whatever
is
happening
at
the
sound.
We
cannot
speak
to
that
and
our
application
does
not
with
respect
to
the
development
agreement
and
the
proposed
Hotel.
B
B
The
Community
Development
board
is
reviewing
a
proposed
64-unit
attached
dwelling
development
in
the
downtown
district
and
the
old
character
district
for
the
property
located
at
708
North
Osceola
Avenue.
The
project
is
66
feet
in
height,
includes
a
minimum
of
one
off
street
parking
space
per
dwelling
unit
and
an
amendment
of
the
street
type
from
E
to
D.
B
AN
B
Thank
you
did
I,
have
a
motion
for
the
board.
K
B
At
this
time,
we'll
presentation
about
a
planning
and
development
staff.
K
AH
R
R
The
property
is
in
the
Old
Bay
character
District,
which
is
shown
as
the
yellow
area
on
the
map
to
your
left
and
the
different
colors
denote
different
character
districts
of
the
downtown.
The
current
prop
the
property
currently
has
a
street
designation
type
of
e,
which
is
shown
on
the
map
to
your
right.
R
The
subject
property
also
has
a
small
portion
of
the
West
rear
that
is
within
the
coastal
storm
area.
This
is
important
to
note,
as
the
permitted
density
within
the
CSA
is
reduced.
However,
the
development
is
proposing
the
dwelling
units
to
be
outside
of
the
CSA,
so
this
is
a
site
plan,
kind
of
overlaying
on
the
existing
aerial
and
so
the
subject.
Property
is
a
standard
interior
lot.
It
has
a
front
to
the
east
along
North,
Osceola
to
size,
north
and
south,
and
then
the
rear
to
the
West.
R
The
property
also
has
a
substantial
grade:
change
with
a
higher
elevation
to
the
east
along
Osceola
and
a
lower
elevation
to
the
West
surrounding
it.
Abutting
directly
to
the
South
is
a
78
foot
tall,
Condo,
building
a
budding
to
the
South,
and
the
excuse
me
to
the
North
and
the
West
is
the
Seminole
boat
ramp,
launch
public
parking
area
and
across
the
street
to
the
east
is
vacant.
R
The
request
is
to
construct
64
attached
dwelling
units
project
they
are
proposing,
which
would
require.
Excuse
me
a
minimum
of
64
off
street
parking
spaces
where
76
are
proposed.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
point
out
a
typo
that
was
in
the
staff
report,
you
should
have
been
given
a
memo
clarifying.
There
were
two
instances
where
it
referenced
63.
R
It
is
64
dwelling
units
with
a
minimum
of
64
parking
spaces
required,
so
I
apologize
for
any
confusion
that
type
of
cause
the
parking
for
the
project
will
be
within
a
parking
garage
that
is
primarily
Subterranean
and
accessed
by
a
single
curb
cut
from
North
Osceola
Avenue,
which
is
the
only
Frontage
and
the
only
vehicular
access
the
ground
level.
Frontage
will
be
a
lobby
area
with
amenities
and
then
dwelling
units
to
the
rear
and
on
the
levels
above.
R
The
first
is
to
change
the
street
type
from
Type
e
to
type
D
under
division,
nine
of
the
downtown
code.
This
might
be
one
of
the
First
Street
type
classification
changes.
That's
that's
come
before
the
board,
so
I
want
to
clarify
that
street
types
primarily
regulate
the
location
of
buildings
and
setbacks.
They
do
not
regulate
the
density
or
height,
as
that
is
regulated
elsewhere
within
the
downtown.
R
R
R
The
desired
public
amenities
are
listed
in
the
downtown
code
and
the
downtown
Redevelopment
plan,
and
we
also
detailed
in
the
staff
report
staff
is
recommending
support
of
the
request.
However,
it
is
up
to
the
board
to
determine
if
the
number
of
units
requested
from
the
pool
is
justified
by
the
public
amenities,
which
is
why
this
is
required
to
be
a
level
two
public
hearing.
R
The
desired
amenities
that
are
provided
here
include
residential
uses,
public
art
and
contributions
to
the
master,
streetscape
and
wayfinding
plans.
So
the
project
is
a
residential
project.
Public
art
is
proposed
to
be
on
the
West
Wall,
which
is
anticipated
to
be
visible
from
the
public
from
the
public
Seminole
boat
ramp.
R
Typically,
construction
techniques
underground
are
not
very
interesting,
but
I
think
this
is
important
to
note,
as
this
element
really
contributes
to
the
quality
of
the
design
and
a
really
successful
implementation.
Ideally,
this
will
enlarge
for
large,
shade
trees
to
provide
it
for
a
long
lifespan,
with
limited
damage
to
Hardscape
and
other
infrastructure.
R
This
construction
technique
has
been
conditioned
as
a
requirement,
as
well
as
requiring
further
details
prior
to
the
issuance
of
building
permit
further
addressed
as
a
condition
of
approval.
The
developer
has
also
committed
to
improving
the
Street's
gate
further
to
the
north,
along
North
Osceola,
providing
a
sidewalk
where
none
exists.
R
This
is
the
elevation
to
the
east,
which
is
facing
North
Osceola.
The
downtown
code,
as
I
said,
is
a
more
detailed
form-based
code
that
regulates
by
Street
types
and
then
by
compatible
Frontage
types.
It
focuses
largely
on
pulling
the
building
up
to
the
street
while
providing
for
wide
sidewalks.
It
focuses
on
the
interaction
of
the
building
Hardscape
Broadway.
It
is
very
focused
on
The
Pedestrian.
R
The
side
elevations
also
help
show
the
grade
change
of
this
property,
as
well
as
the
dwelling
units
and
the
balconies
proposed.
R
The
project
is
similar
in
scale
in
bulk
to
adjacent
properties,
specifically
the
abutting
property
to
the
south.
At
700,
North
Osceola
is
developed
with
a
78-foot
condo
Tower,
the
property
at
880,
North
Osceola,
which
is
approximately
860
feet
to
the
north,
is
developed
with
a
93-foot
condo
Tower.
These
two
projects
were
approved
and
developed
under
a
prior
code
because
the
downtown
code
we
have
today
was
adopted
in
2018,
but
these
two
projects
make
substantial
contributions
to
the
existing
and
Redevelopment
character
of
the
area.
R
R
This
case
was
pulled
off
of
consent
due
to
written
objections
that
were
received.
I
wanted
to
quickly
try
and
direct
you
to
page
11
of
the
staff
report
which
clarifies
that
a
traffic
impact
study
was
not
required
for
this
project.
The
applicant
provided
a
trip
generation
analysis
letter
which
determined
the
project
will
not
generate
51
nude
peak
hour
trips
or
more,
which
is
the
the
limits
test
for
a
traffic
impact
study.
R
R
The
project
throughout
the
whole
process
was
reviewed
by
the
fire
department
and
found
to
be
supportable,
provided
the
specific
concerns
the
fire,
the
assistant
Fire
Marshal,
Keith
Hatton,
provided
that
there
is
no
code
requirement
for
fire
department
access
apparatus
to
have
access
to
all
sides
of
the
structure.
Fire
code
only
requires
fire
department
apparatus
access
within
50
feet
of
a
door
that
leads
to
the
interior
of
the
building.
This
requirement
is
met
from
the
North
Osceola
main
entrance.
C
R
There's
two
parts
to
the
public
amenities
request
that
they
have.
The
first
is
for
the
dwelling
units
33
dwelling
units.
The
second
part
is
if
you're
asking
for
additional
density,
you
could
ask
for
additional
height,
no
more
than
20
percent,
which
is
what
they're
also
asking
for
so
two
points
that
they're
asking
for
the
height
bonus,
pretty
exactly
clarified
in
the
code.
What
you
can
ask
for
and
how
much
no
more
than
20
percent
right.
R
I,
don't
want
to
muddy
the
fact,
but
there
are.
There
have
been
multiple
recent
downtown
code
text,
amendments
that
are
adopted
and,
depending
on
when
projects
were
submitted,
they're
under
slightly
different
versions.
The
city
just
adopted
a
tiered
version,
which
provides
much
more.
You
know.
If
you
do
this,
then
you
get
this
amount
kind
of
calculation.
That's
a
lot
more
cut
and
dry.
This
project
was
submitted
before
that
went
into
effect.
C
R
So
in
the
downtown
Redevelopment
plan
would
it
established
and
it
talks
about
the
public
communities
in
Central
Pool.
It
lists
desired
amenities,
I
in
the
staff
report
and
in
this
I
only
list
the
desired
amenities
that
they're
providing
residential
use
is
the
primary
one,
but
that
that
is
one
that
we
have
often
utilized
public
art
and
then
contributions
to
streetscaping
and
wayfinding.
In
this
instance,
they
would
be
constructing
them,
and
that
is
where
they
are
proposing
the
streetscaping
along
their
Frontage
and.
R
They
wouldn't
have
had
to
do
that
per
se
and
that's
why,
as
you
heard,
when
I
was
you
know,
reading
I
mean
I'm
an
arborist
and
I've
seen
very,
very
often
the
conflicts
between
shade
trees
and
hardscapes,
and
how
do
you
get
shade
trees
in
an
urban
environment
right
and
how
do
you
get
them
without
just
creating
problems
10
years
later
right?
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
know
through
the
review
we've
made
it
a
point
to
say
how
are
you
going
to
accommodate
these
shade?
R
C
AI
C
AD
M
AD
Q
R
G
AO
AP
Hey
good
afternoon
board
members
before
I
start
my
time,
I
did
provide
you
able
to
pack
it
prior
to
the
last
case.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
paper,
so
I
won't
give
you
a
chance
to
find
it.
So
the
packet
has
the
resumes.
It
also
has
a
hard
copy
of
our
PowerPoint,
and
then
it's
got.
A
supplemental
streetscaping
exhibit
that
Kimberly
horn
is
going
to
walk
through.
That's
not
part
of
our
PowerPoint
that
talks
about
that's
being
provided
in
terms
of
the
public
amenities
to
justify
the
public
amenities
of
incentive.
AP
So
at
this
time
I'd
ask
that
you
would
certify
Miss,
Don
Dodge
PE
lead
AP,
kimly
horn
as
a
expert
in
civil
engineering,
Mr
David,
Flanagan
p-l-a-a-s-l-a
as
a
landscape,
architect,
expert
and
then
we
you
can
skip
the
next
two
with
the
pictures
and
go
to
George
San
Martin
as
an
architect
with
BC
Architects
AIA
out
of
foil
Gables
and
Terence
Conley
who's.
Also
here
as
an
architect,
BC
Architects
AIA
out
of
Coral
Gables
and
those
are
our
four
expert
Witnesses
for
your
consideration.
K
Chair
when
I
moved
to
accept
Don,
Dodge,
David,
Flanagan,
George,
San,
Martin
and
Terence
Connolly
as
expert
Witnesses
for
the
subject,
matters
proposed.
AP
Aye
aye
opposed
thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
Brian,
on
625
Court
Street
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
It
is
an
honor
to
be
here
presenting
what
is
part
of
a
transformation
of
a
historically
blighted
community
and
something
that
will
jump
start.
The
brand
new
North
Greenwood
CRA.
One
of
the
questions
big
questions
was
the
justification
of
the
incentive.
AP
Well,
let
me
tell
you
first
there's
twice:
the
staff
takes
out
the
Snap
report
and
Miss
Crandall
just
mentioned
over
the
last
six
months
since
April,
two
ordinances
have
been
passed
by
the
city
council
at
staff,
drafting
to
make
it
easier
to
get
these
incentives.
So
the
city
council
has
established
a
legislative
priority
to
not
make
it
harder,
but
to
make
it
easier
to
get
the
units
from
the
public
incentive
amenities
pool
and
to
get
the
additional
height
in
the
staff
report.
AP
It
points
out
that
there
were
2
326
units
established
in
2018
to
incentivize
development
of
residential
and
hotel
projects.
You
just
awarded
43
of
them
to
the
Bluffs
hotel,
but
this
is
a
residential
project
and
I.
Don't
know
any
that
have
been
provided
to
the
residential
projects
that
are
actually
going
forward
at
this
point,
and
this
will
be
one
of
the
first.
AP
The
city
staff
in
the
north
Greenwood
CRA
estimated
that
if
a
100
million
dollars
of
construction
occurs
by
year,
six,
which
is
six
years
from
now
that
that
will
result
in
over
28
million
dollars
in
tax
funds
to
the
CRA
over
20
years.
This
80
million
dollar
project
gets
the
city
to
80
percent
of
its
goal
of
its
six-year
goal.
So
you
are
almost
substantially
guaranteeing
the
success
of
the
north
Greenwood
CRA
just
by
approving
this
project,
so
that
should
be
considered
along
with
the
many
other
public
amenities,
the
residential
use.
AP
The
public
are
10
to
20
foot.
If
we
go
back
to
the
overhead,
please
or
I'm
sorry,
the
the
PowerPoint
10
to
20
foot
sidewalks
and
we're
extending
those
sidewalks
to
the
Seminole
boat
ramp,
so
we're
actually
building
a
sidewalk
streetscaped
all
the
way,
not
all
the
way
to
Eldridge,
but
all
the
way
from
our
property
line
to
the
city's
property
line
with
Sanibel,
Street
lighting,
underground
utilities,
that's
a
significant
expense
and
that's
all
being
done.
AP
It's
essentially
going
to
be
the
start
of
a
mini
Beach
Walk
for
this
area,
and
so
that
is
a
quality
of
life
amenity
that
is
not
required
and
our
experts
are
going
to
go
into
more
detail
on
that
so
George.
If
you
could
go
up
next,
this
is
our
architect
good.
A
Afternoon
my
name
is
Georgetown
Martin
from
an
architectural
point
of
view.
I
think
you
know
what
we're
providing
is
a
contemporary
building,
something
modern,
very
streamlined
and
something
that
kind
of
reflects
the
Marine
The
Aquatic
nature
of
the
site.
It
is
also
you
know
quite
sensitive
to
some
of
the
context.
If
you
can
see
here,
the
building
is
L-shaped,
so
it
steps
away
as
much
as
possible
from
the
adjacent
properties.
While
also
acknowledging
that
straight
front.
AP
AQ
Good
afternoon
again,
Don
Dodge,
McKinley
horn,
civil
engineer
and
so
I
just
wanted.
You
know
reiterate
that
we've
designed
the
site
plan
to
conform
with
all
the
requirements
we
do
meet
the
setback
requirements
the
parking
requirements,
as
mentioned.
We
do
provide
additional
more
parking
than
that's
required
and,
as
far
as
the
traffic
study
again
we
generate
approximately
25
trips.
So
we
did
not
come
meet
the
threshold
for
a
traffic
study
and
yeah
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
engineering
questions
and-
and
you
look
at
that-
exhibit
the
lucid.
AQ
So
it's
Ella
mentioned.
Initially
we
were
proposing
the
new
streetscape
in
our
Frontage,
but
after
discussions
we
are
going
to
continue
that
all
the
way
up
to
Seminole
and
Dave
will
walk
through
what
that's
going
to
look
like
Dave.
P
David
Flanagan
Kim,
Noir
landscape,
architect,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate:
Alice
Bell
fair
at
the
point
about
what
we're
proposing
for
sort
of
an
elevated,
enhanced,
Street
skateboard
we're
providing
wider
sidewalks
approximately
20
feet
in
most
areas.
Bike
racks,
benches,
public,
realm
amenities
that
really
enhance.
P
I
would
disagree
with
that
I
think
the
structural
soil
is
really
exciting
and
amazing.
It
allows.
P
AP
So
if
we
go
back
to
the
PowerPoint,
please
and
I
will
summarize
so
again.
This
request,
the
staff
and
report
is,
is
excellent,
as
always,
but
this
one
is
very,
very
specific
and
very
very
excellent.
They
say:
39
separate
specific
goals,
policies
and
objectives
of
the
downtown
plan.
The
special
area
plan,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Land
Development
code,
the
Community
Development
code
that
this
project
either
meets
or
exceeds.
There
is
nothing
that
it
doesn't
meet
or
exceed,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
really
focus
on
is.
AP
Why
are
we
here?
We're
not
here
because
of
setbacks?
We're
not
here
because
of
Street
types,
we're
here
because
of
the
public
amenities
incentive
pool.
Everything
else
could
be
a
level
one
approval,
I
think
that
you
will
hear
concerns
from
The
Neighbors
about
the
five
foot
setback
to
the
South
property.
That
is
a
level
one
approval.
It's
you're,
not
approving
any
flexibility,
there's
no
there's
no
relevance
to
the
setback
because
it's
met.
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
and
that
evidence
is
going
to
be
unrefuted
that
we
meet
the
minimum
requirements.
AP
AP
You
know
78
feet
approved
in
2002,
and
this
one
is
66
feet
being
asked
to
be
approved
in
2023,
and
then
you
have
the
880
North
Osceola
79
units
that
was
approved
at
93
feet
of
height
in
2018.
and
just
to
reiterate,
84
of
the
public
amenities
incentive
pool
units
will
still
be
available.
AP
Even
if
you
approve
this
project
and
that's
that's
1974
units
I
think
it
should
be
very,
very
much
taken
into
consideration
that
this
project,
this
development,
will
not
only
support
The,
Pedestrian
quality
of
life,
revitalization
of
a
historically
Blended
area,
but
it
will
get
you
to
80
of
your
Tiff
funding,
based
on
the
city's
own
CRA
plan
for
North
Greenwood
in
year.
One.
AP
You
know
three
months
after
the
plan
was
approved,
I
mean
that's
a
great
start
and
and
we're
not
seeking
any
code
amendments
or
anything
like
that
to
get
us
there
we're
doing
it
within
current
code,
which
is
within
the
vision
of
the
staff.
At
this
point,
I
think
I've
covered
everything.
Is
it
possible
to
reserve
the
balance
of
my
time?
Do
a
rebuttal
since
I
haven't
used
it
all.
AP
AN
AQ
A
That's
for
the
proposed
area
for
public
art
in
the
green
space
that
yeah
I
think
I
think
that
that
was
at
an
earlier
discussion
with
Gina,
but
it
was
moved
to
the
to
the
to
the
art
to
the
wall
instead
of
a
freestanding
sculpture.
That's.
AP
AP
It
will
be
visible
by
the
from
the
seminal
boat
docks
and
the
and
the
marina,
which
is
where
the
public
is
going
to
be
gathering,
and
obviously
we
have
that
streetscaping
that
we're
doing
to
improve
that
area
in
that
parking
lot,
that
the
city
owns
so
I
think
that,
from
an
objective
perspective,
the
public
art
plus
the
streetscaping
will
certainly
increase
the
quality
of
life
and
the
aesthetic
of
that
seminal
boat
docks
and
the
the
boat
ramp
itself
is.
N
AQ
B
W
B
AP
And
I
think
there's
a
historic
precedence.
I
got
on
Clearwater
Beach,
where
there
was
some
public
art
that
was
promised,
that
wasn't
done
in
the
city,
enforced
on
that
and
got
the
public
art
to
eventually
become
public
art,
so
I
think
the
city.
It's
not
like.
We
say
we're
going
to
do
it.
We
don't
have
to
do
it.
The
city
will
ensure
that
we
do
it.
They.
C
N
AN
Good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
I,
as
I
mentioned
Robert
Callaway
I,
actually
am
a
resident
of
700
North
Osceola
Avenue
in
new
Condominiums.
Also
the
president
of
the
homeowners
association
at
the
condo.
AN
You
know
I
want
to
make
a
couple
of
quick
statements
and
go
on
record
to
stating
that
I'm
here
representing
some
of
the
residents
that
are
here
joining
me
as
well.
We
are
not
anti-development.
We
appreciate
the
the
efforts
that
have
been
put
forward
by
this
board
and
we
appreciate
what's
been
proposed.
I
think
that
it
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
for
our
area
and
we're
not.
We
understand
that
that
property
will
be
developed.
AN
What
we
do,
though,
have
and
understand
from
us
is
that
we
do
have
some
key
concerns,
which
we
expressed
in
a
letter
that
we
placed
before
the
city
of
Clearwater
and
I.
Think
those
concerns
are
driven
primarily
by
the
fact
that
we're
taking
a
property
we're
going
to
put
64
units
on
property
by
pulling
33
out
of
the
pool
I
want
to
clarify
a
few
things.
I
think
we're
a
little
misleading
regarding
the
two
properties.
Apu
Condominiums
is
not
a
comparable
size
to
this
unit.
This
complex
of
this
new
condo
we
had
28
units
28.
AN
Q
AN
You
have
one
parking
space
per
unit.
If
you
go
around
our
area
and
look
at
any
condo
and
our
location,
it
has
one
parking
unit
per
condo
unit,
one
parking
space.
How
many
cars
do
you
see
parked
on
the
street,
a
number
of
them
and
our
particular
condos?
75
percent
of
the
residents
of
28
units
have
two
cars.
We
happen
to
have
two
spots
per
unit
in
our
parking
garage,
so
we
have
the
ability
to
park
inside
you
put
one
part
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right.
Now
you
build
it,
they
will
come.
AN
You
will
have
an
additional
20
plus
vehicles
that
will
have
to
find
parking
somewhere
along
North,
Osceola
I.
Think
it's
an
issue
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
deal
killer,
but
it
is
something
I
think
that
you
need
to
make
this
from
a
project.
Development
standpoint
come
back
around,
reassess
how
this
property
is
set
up.
Take
these
64
units
in
one
vehicle,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
vehicles.
Looking
for
parking,
there
is
no
parking
on
Eldridge
of
Fort
Harrison
to
North
Osceola.
AN
There
is
no
parking
on
Seminole,
there's
four
to
six
spots
available
on
the
street
on
North
Osceola.
Today,
right
now
there
was
two
cars
parked
on
that
street
because
it's
overflow
from
the
town
homes
that
are
built
and
existing
on
Eldridge,
that
is
West
of
North
Osceola,
that's
their
parking.
So
where
are
you
going
to
follow
these
vehicles?
Second
concern
that
we
would
Express
is
the
traffic
I
understand
it
was
a
December
6,
2022
traffic
study
that
was
submitted.
There
was
a
study
that
was
completed
by
organization.
AN
It
was
found
on
the
code
again
and
I
get
that,
but
they
did
not
look
at
our
rush
hour
when
you
look
at
code.
Sometimes
you
have
to
pull
your
eyes
out
of
the
code
book
and
look
at
the
specific
situation
in
our
specific
situation
is
the
fact
that
we
have
the
Seminole
boat
ramp
highly
successful.
Our
rush
hour
is
Saturday
and
Sunday.
AN
You
come
down
there
on
a
Saturday
and
Sunday.
You
will
see
boats
lined
up
on
North
Osceola
in
front
of
our
building.
It'll
be
in
front
of
this
building,
as
they
stage
in
a
queue
to
get
to
the
boat
ramp
again
may
not
be
a
developer
situation
they
have
to
solve,
but
it's
something
that
we
all
as
a
community
need
to
think
about.
I
think
it's
something
you
have
to
step
back
and
rethink
what
the
process
will
be
going
forward
so
that
we
don't
create
a
situation
down
the
road
where
it's
a
problem.
AN
I
think
we
all
would
appreciate
what
we
hear
from
the
group
today.
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
continue
to
develop
and
improve
in
our
area.
Well,
we're
all
behind
that
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
key
things
that
we
really
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
and
that
we
are
be
more
specific
with
the
64
units
versus
something
that's
more
in
line
with
what
we
would
have
directly
next
door.
AN
I
do
have
to
beg
to
differ
with
the
emergency
vehicle
access
between
the
properties
that
I
found
at
odd,
the
11
of
our
units
out
of
28
that
have
no
access
from
the
exterior
of
the
building
between
the
properties.
There's
no
fire
lane,
there's
no
direct
access.
How
do
you
get
to
the
seventh
floor
or
sixth
floor
of
a
condo?
If
someone
does
not
have
the
capability
egress
through
the
hallway
to
the
stairwell
in
a
fire
event
extracting
from
the
side,
with
a
bucket
truck
with
a
bladder
truck?
How
do
they
get
there?
AN
I'm,
not
sure
something
again
to
think
about
has
to
do
with
the
part,
not
against
the
development.
We
are
questioning
whether
we
move
forward
in
the
direction
that
this
is
currently
proposed.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
thought.
I
would
turn
that
back
around
and
ask
them
to
rethink
where
they're
at
today.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
AN
R
I
wanted
to
clarify
when
we
were
discussing
the
additional
improvements
which
were
are
proposed
and
they're
conditioned
that
when
we
were
talking
about
adding
a
sidewalk
where
none
exists,
they
were
talking
about
this
area,
which
was
recently
redone
by
the
city.
There's
a
sidewalk
there
in
the
staff
report.
There
is
a
specific
condition
of
approval
number
12
that
is
talking
about
adding
a
sidewalk
along
North
La
seal
Avenue
along
the
city-owned
parking
lot
to
the
northwest
corner
of
Seminole
Street
in
North
Osceola,
so
I
mean
just
to
clarify.
Q
R
B
AK
Name
is
Rebecca
Larson
l-a-r-s-s-o-n
I'm
a
resident
at
700,
North
Osceola
been
there
for
10
years
again,
as
Bob
stated,
we
are
very
much
in
agreement
that
we
love
the
idea
of
building
and
that
very
well,
it's
just
an
empty
lot,
not
in
the
best
condition.
So
we
really
appreciate
that,
but
as
a
president,
there,
the
parking
and
driving
situation
on
the
weekends
is
horrible.
AK
It's
like
that
and
again,
the
thought
is
if
this
building
goes
up
with
64
units
with
64
parking
spots,
there's
going
to
be
I
know,
Bob
was
conservative,
20
30.
there's
going
to
be
40.
50
cars,
where
are
they
going
to
go?
There
is
nowhere
for
them
to
go
on
Osceola
or
Seminole
or
Eldridge
and
I
just
hope.
That
is
something
you
take
into
consideration.
So
thank
you.
W
AJ
Carol
Hines,
h-I-n-d-s
and
I
live
next
door
again
we're
thrilled
with
Coach
Boone
we're
ecstatic
I
mean
we
can't
even
believe
how
great
this
is.
We
basically
I
just
found
out
about
this.
We
recently
moved
here,
maybe
three
or
four
days
ago.
I
have
huge
concerns.
One
is
the
concern
that
I
know
that
our
area
was
referred
to
as
a
blighted
area.
We
think
it's
more
like
the
way
it
was
described
in
the
comprehensive
plan
as
charming
and
unique.
AJ
So
I
haven't
seen
when
I
drive
up
and
down
I
haven't
seen
any
other
buildings
that
are
just
right
next,
each
other
to
the
point
where
a
fire
truck
couldn't
even
get
it.
That's
concerning
everything's,
fixable
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
the
safety
issue,
and
then
the
parking
I
mean
we
put
people
out
there
directing
traffic
and
to
think
that
you're
going
to
have
one.
What
is
it
30
see?
This
is
why
we
need
we
just
need
more
time,
but
we'd
have
what
33
additional
people
with
their
parking
they're
finding
parking.
AJ
The
street
I
mean
I
just
find
this
absolutely
flabbergasting.
So
we're
just
asking
you
for
a
little
bit
more
time,
so
we
can
look
at
this
and
get
a
handle
on
and
come
up
here
and
maybe
be
a
little
bit
more
coherent.
But
our
concerns
really
are
it's
just
safety
and
traffic,
but
we're
thrilled
with
the
development
we're
thrilled,
especially
with
Clifton
Park.
So
thank
you
very
much.
AF
Jenny
varielli
V,
as
in
Victor,
a
double
r.
I
a
l
e
I,
just
want
to
talk
about
the
building.
That's
next
door
to
us
in
2016,
eight
-old,
something
when
they
were
building
it.
Every
morning
at
6,
30,
the
trucks
would
start
coming
in
beep
beep,
beep
beep,
my
husband
and
I
were
woken
up
called
the
cops
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
I
said
the
builders
are
supposed
to
be
there
between
seven
and
not
6,
30..
AF
Well,
police
would
go
over
there,
they'd
stop
the
business,
stop
them
and
the
police
would
leave
and
they'd
started
up
again
and
I
called
the
building
inspector
and
I
said
what
can
I
do
and
he
said,
let
me
let
me
take
care
of
it,
so
he
called
me-
and
he
says
we
just
we
talked
and
there
won't
be
any
more
there'll,
be
trucks
backing
up,
but
they
won't
have
the
the
noise
going.
I
said:
well,
that's
wonderful,
really,
that's
next
door
to
us
and
that's
what
we
had
to
you
know
had
to
listen
to.
AF
W
AR
Hi,
my
name
is
Charles
gerasi,
g-e-r-a-c-I
and
again
we're
concerned
about
the
parking.
The
gentleman
that
spoke
earlier
indicated
that
we
were
going
to
have
a
quality
of
life
additions.
There's
going
to
be
no
quality
of
life
for
our
residents
that
are
living
at
that
building
at
708,
North
Osceola
Avenue,
because
the
party
will
be
tremendously
inhibited
by
our
lifestyle.
You
paint
a
memorial
someplace
is
not
going
to
help.
You
know,
quality
of
our
life.
You
know,
Mr
Park
indicated
that
you
you
you
give
you
could
you've
got
to
draw
the
line.
AR
Someplace
Mr
Cordell
indicated
that
you
know
flexibility.
How
much
flexibility
are
we
going
to
give
to
these
developers?
We
have
to
you
know
we
keep
giving
them
more
and
more
and
more
of
why
because
they're
going
to
give
a
little
play
to
pay
them
earlier
here,
someplace
quality
of
life
that
we
lived
there
we
like
to
have
a
quality
of
life
where
you
know
we
could
get
up
and
not
have
to
worry
about
driving
down
the
street
getting
to
a
condo.
AR
You
know
we
really
need
to
consider
the
safety
factor.
I
mean
you
know:
we're
senior
citizens
living
in
this
unit
if
they're
God
forbid,
there's
a
fire
or
something
we
need
to
have
be
able
to
call.
If
it's
clear
where
the
fire
department
say
hey,
we
need
to
get
a
book
and
Ladder
up
to
a
condo.
If
we
have
people
there
that
need.
AR
AR
R
R
I.
Think
the
philosophy
there
was
more
to
let
the
development
Community
determine
what
parking
they
needed.
This
particular
project
is
64
dwelling
units
with
a
minimum
of
64
parking
spaces
required.
That
is
the
code
requirement
they're
proposing
more
than
that
they're
proposing
76
parking
spaces.
You
know
that
might
not
be
enough
of
an
increase
to
address
some
of
the
concerns,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
most
of
the
time
I
say
the
minimum
required,
not
necessarily
what
they
are
proposing.
U
U
AN
AN
Not
a
what,
if
it's
a
reality,
that's
the
key.
The
reality
is
that
Seminole
boat
ramp
is
popular
and
they
will
continue
to
use
North
Osceola
and
if
you
put
an
additional
33
units
in
there
with
an
additional
33
cars.
On
top
of
that
again,
if
you
follow
the
math,
it's
pretty
simple
to
go
forward
and
look
at
how
many
you're
going
to
have
an
additional
vehicle
they
will
be
placed
somewhere.
I
understand
that
they
went
above
the
76
required
to
64
required
to
76.
AN
both
more
spots.
I
think
you're
going
to
still
see
that
20
to
25
Vehicles
sitting
somewhere
I'd
like
to
know
where
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
here
before
you
and
talk
about
this
again.
We're
not
asking
for
this
to
be
not
built,
not
built,
but
we
are
asking
for
it
to
go
back
around
again
and
to
be
re-looked
at
again,
spend
some
more
time
actually
pulling
your
eyes
out
of
what
the
code
says
is
a
minimum.
What
does
our
area
actually
support
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint
and
also
from
a
quality
of
life
standpoint?
AN
AP
That
little
extra
time,
thank
you.
Mr,
chair
and
board
members,
Brian
Young,
65,
First
Street
again
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
patience
today.
I
know:
we've
had
a
really
long
meeting.
It's
not
going
to
be
quite
over
yet
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
and
also
the
public
for
staying
here
and
staying
through
this
and
giving
us
your
full
attention.
I
very
much
appreciate
that
this
is
an
important
project.
It's
a
project
that
is
going
to
set
the
tone
for
this
new
North
Greenwood
cra.
AP
It's
going
to
contribute
significantly
not
just
to
the
quality
in
this
community,
but
also
the
quality
throughout
that
CRA
throughout
that
entire
Community,
not
just
this
street,
but
that
entire
Community.
As
you
all
know,
and
I've
said
before,
in
1999,
the
city
council
created
the
cdb
to
take
politics
and
popularity
out
of
Land
Development
decisions.
AP
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
board
that
has
to
follow
the
law,
and
when
you
follow
the
law,
you
have
to
consider
the
competent
substantial
evidence
and
pursue
it
to
the
second
DCA
holding
in
Catherine
Bay
versus
fagin
lay
person,
opinions
about
traffic
and
noise,
and
those
types
of
issues
are
not
generally
competent,
substantial
evidence.
In
this
case,
you
have
unrefuted
testimony
from
the
experts
on
the
staff,
including
experts
from
the
staff
who
are
not
here.
AP
The
fire
marshal
has
weighed
in
and
said
that
approval
of
this
project
will
have
no
impact
on
the
Emergency
Services
provided
to
700
North
Osceola
zero.
It
will
not
change
anything
about
the
way
that
the
fire
services
are
already
provided
with
a
vacant
property
next
door
to
them,
but
you
also
have
the
unrefuted
testimony
that
not
only
do
we
meet
the
requirement
of
the
parking
code
and
Mr
Calloway
to
his
credit
admitted
that
we
exceed
it.
So
your
first
case
today
was
a
parking
reduction
request
on
Clearwater
Beach,
and
that
was
a
decision.
AP
This
there's
the
parking
is
not
relevant
to
your
decision
today.
There
is
no
request
regarding
parking.
We
need
it.
The
box
is
checked,
we
not
only
need
it,
we
exceed
it,
and
so
that
concern
is
really
not
relevant
to
the
consideration
before
you
today
and
I.
Think
that
what
the
staff
report
signifies
is
that
this
project,
under
the
current
law,
provides
a
significant
benefit
to
the
public,
including
significant
streetscaping
that
is,
over
and
above
what
is
required,
underlining
power
lines.
I,
don't
know
if
I've
ever
had
a
project
that
agreed
to
do
that.
AP
I
mean
that
is
very
rare.
Even
the
projects
on
Clearwater
Beach
effort
to
be
Exempted
from
that,
and
they
go
to
Duke
and
Duke,
says
yeah,
it's
not
practical.
We
don't
want
to
pay
to
do
it
and
in
this
case,
he's
going
to
do
it.
So
that's
I
mean
it
doesn't
sound
like
much,
but
in
practice
in
reality
it
is.
It
is
significant,
it's
a
significant
expense
and
it's
something
that
most
developers
don't
do.
I
think
that
it's
also
important
to
understand
the
city
council
has
legislatively
made
it
easier.
AP
Since
this
application
was
filed
in
January
to
get
these
incentives,
they've
now
made
it
easier
to
get
them
as
a
level
one
incentive,
as
opposed
to
a
level
two.
Now
this
project
would
still
be
a
level
two
based
on
the
number
of
units
they're
requesting
but
again
keep
in
mind
right
sizing,
the
project.
This
project
is
shorter
than
its
neighbors
and
it
Parks
itself
not
only
does
IT
Park
itself,
it
exceeds
the
parking.
So
how
can
we
have?
AP
How
can
we
be
too
dense
if
we're
significantly
shorter
than
our
neighbors
and
we
exceed
the
parking
required
and
we're
providing
a
20-foot
wide
sidewalk?
The
density
argument
doesn't
fit
this
project.
This
is
a
right-sized
project,
which
is
why
the
staff
is
supporting
it
and
which
is
why
they
found
that
it
met
or
exceeded
39
different,
specific
goals,
policies,
objectives
of
the
applicable
law,
which
is
the
downtown
plan,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Community
Development
code.
AP
So
I
would
leave
you
with
the
fact
that
we
understand
and
appreciate
the
neighbors
concerns.
I
appreciate
them.
Staying
here
and
being
you
know,
going
through
this
long
day
with
us,
but
respectfully
the
compensational
evidence
that
has
been
unrefuted.
There
has
been
no
competing
compositional
evidence
regarding
the
specific
or
process
before
you
today,
and
we
would
ask
you
to
go
ahead
and
approve
the
project
now
consistent
with
the
staff
recommendation
of
approval
and
the
conditions
of
approval
recommended
by
the
staff
and
we'll
answer
any
additional
questions
you
have
at
this
time.
George.
N
N
A
Mean
it
would
be
the
specific
code
of
you
know
the
municipality
in
which
we're
designing
I,
think
I.
Think
in
general
your
question
is:
is
one
prevailing
unit
adequate?
Is
that
you
know,
and,
and
you
know
it
depends
in
very
dense
areas
and
Transit
Oriental
developments.
They
may
be
much
less
required,
so.
AP
I
think
he's
I
think
he's
I
think
we're
going
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
I
think
what
he's
saying
is
that
the
city
legislatively
has
a
Downtown
special
airplane
that
had
Consultants
that
looked
at
traffic,
that
did
traffic
studies
for
the
city
that
helped
them
develop
that
plan,
and
so
the
City
established
the
law.
The
law
is
one
per
unit,
and
so
the
adequacy
of
the
law
I.
N
You
designing
that
way
or
if
you
have
a
three-bedroom
unit
and
in
a
you
know,
population
make
up
your
demographic
is
what
I'm
sure
you've
designed
to
that
right
as
well?
Is
there
is
there
something
that
you
guys
point
to
because
you're
a
half
a
space
per
bedroom
is
what
your
count
is
and
I
didn't
know
if
that's
relevant
to
the
market
or
not
I.
AB
AQ
And
one
I
think
typically
we're
basing
it
around
one
per
one
per
unit
and
again
it
depends
on
the
developer.
The
developer
is
the
one
that
does
an
analysis.
So
if
they
feel
I
mean
there
are
some
developer
and
they
push
for
more,
but
really
the
clientele
they're
looking
for,
but
the
majority
we're
looking
to
reduce
the
well.
AQ
B
Don't
know
close
and
just
go
to
comment
and
I'll
start
this
one
a
little
bit
in
that
I
kind
of
agree
with
that.
Just
with
past
experience
that
I
think
the
developer
is
not
going
to
build
a
project
that
I
mean
I
sure
am
not
going
to
buy
a
unit
if
I've
got
a
wife
into
driving
age,
kids
and
I
need
a
three-bedroom
apartment.
I
have
three
cars
and
I'm
getting
one
unit.
One
space
I'm
going
on
to
the
next
place.
B
Right
I
was
going
to
say
in
the
first
on
the
first
rendition
and
reading
all
this
I
was
really
here
to
complement
staff
and
end
up
around
all
the
items
that
were
listed
as
conditions
to
approve
this
project,
so
I
think
yeah
and
just
in
defense
on
this
I
mean
we
can't
be
all
experts
on
all
things
on
here.
I
have
to
rely
every
single
project
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
before
it
gets
its
CEO
and
gets
building
approval.
B
It's
going
to
our
Fire
Marshals
for
final
say
on
everything
and
I
know
that
they
look
at
the
health,
safety
and
Welfare
of
the
public
and
every
single
project.
So
and
I
know,
there's
been
consideration
about
new
Fire
Equipment
trucks,
ladders,
things
of
that
nature,
so
I
would
think
that
they'd
be
looking
at
this
project,
I'm
hoping
that
they'd
look
at
this
project
and
address
those
concerns
not
only
for
the
building
that's
here,
but
for
the
adjacent
properties
that
are
next
to
it.
B
C
I
just
have
one
question
about
the
height
we
have.
We
have
a
55
foot
height
limit
for
New
Orleans
in
here.
You
know.
Why
are
we
you
know
continue
to
give
variances,
above
that
there
was
a
reason
why
we
put
it
establishment
either
change
it.
So
it's
higher,
you
know,
that's
that
I,
don't
understand
how
we
continually
just
go
above
those
limits,
just
like
the
CCO.
C
U
C
O
Issue
that
is
really
before
you
is
whether
you
think
you
should
allocate
them
the
units
from
the
pool
the
amount
of
units
it's
up
to
you
to
determine.
If
you
think
it's
too
much,
you
could
allocate
less
if
you
feel
that
it's
20
pounds
in
a
10
pound
bag,
then
you
know
that's.
That
is
your
call
to
make
here
today.
O
AP
On
the
high
issue,
so
the
height
is
formidable
at
66
feet
because
the
code
allows
for
a
20
increase
to
whatever
the
height
is
and
in
some
areas
in
the
downtown
plan,
the
height
is
only
allowed
at
35
feet.
So
it's
especially
in
that
North
Marina,
District,
there's
a
tiered
height
effect
and
then,
when
you
go
to
downtown
core,
there's
no
height
limit,
so
I
have
another
client
who's,
proposing
a
building
and
there's
literally
no
height
limit
on
it
at
all.
So
in
this
case,
the
height
limit
is
55
feet,
plus
20
percent.
AP
If
you
meet,
if
you
find
that
they
met
the
criteria
for
approval
of
the
public
amenities
incentive
pool,
which
is
the
same
as
on
the
beach,
where
you
can
go
to
150
feet,
if
you
meet
the
criteria
of
the
hotel
down,
City
Reserve
or
the
destination
density
Reserve,
these
are
all
pools
of
extra
height
and
extra
density.
To
incentivize
very
specific
development,
which
this
staff
says.
This
project
meets
the
vision
of
and
an
incentive,
that's
impossible
to
get
doesn't
incentivize
anything.
Thank
you.
F
I
do
want
to
add
that
I
do
think
this
project
you
know,
definitely
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
criterias.
I
know
we
can't
talk
about
when
you
talk
about
parking
because
I
pointed
out
that's
been
kind
of
not
say
taken
off
the
table.
I
do
want
to
address
that
the
parking
garage
that
he
would
said
that
oh
location
for
something
like
this
drop
down.
F
It's
too
far
away,
but
in
any
case,
I
did
think
that
Mr
Owens
pointed
out
some
good
reasoning
as
far
as
the
tra
fund,
and
that
is
really
important.
I
mean
as
far
as
when
I
look
when
we,
when
this
board
approved
that
long
ago,
the
CRA.
That
was
one
of
my
interests,
thoughts
about.
How
would
we
be
able
to
imagine
that
this
project
does
have
an
is
important
point.
K
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
no,
no
I'm,
sorry
I'm.
Sorry.
K
I
just
want
to
say:
I
listened
carefully
to
the
residents,
the
neighbors
and
and
two
things
caught
my
ear,
the
the
safety
issues
and
the
parking
issues,
and
just
show
me
that
those
are
understandable,
concerns
it's
an
unknown
and
we've
all
had
different
bad
experiences
with
those
two
things
in
various
places.
We've
lived
so
I
listened
very
carefully
to
those
and
I
understand
them.
K
We're
our
hearing
type
setup
is
that
we
can
only
consider
the
evidence
presented
and
even
though
I
do
understand
your
concerns
in
both
those
regards
Mr
Strong's
made
made
a
valid
point
that
the
overwhelming
weight
of
the
evidence
has
been
that
those
two
issues
will
not
be
a
problem
with
this
particular
project.
The
US
proposed
so
while
I
understand
the
neighbor's
concerns
just
that
the
weight
of
the
evidence
is
that,
as
far
as
the
city
is
recommending
that
neither
one
of
those
will
be
a
problem
with
this
project.
K
F
V
V
B
B
The
Community
Development
board
is
receiving
a
proposed
reviewing
a
proposed
86-unit
Resort
attached
dwellings
in
the
tourist
district
and
Clearwater
pass
character,
District
of
Beach
by
Design,
properly
located
at
805
South
Gulfview.
The
project
is
100
feet
in
height,
includes
a
minimum
of
129
off-street
parking
spaces
and
requests
allowable
flexibility
from
height
requirements,
design,
guidelines
of
Beach
by
Design
association's
Clearwater,
neighborhoods
Coalition
Board
of
County
Commissioners
Pinellas
County
school
board,
Clearwater
Point
condo,
Clearwater,
Point,
condo,
eight
Clearwater,
Point
condo,
five
Clearwater
Beach
Association
planners
Melissa,
Hawk
Baker
senior
planner.
AS
B
K
For
Grant
Mr
colasopoulos
party
status.
E
First
I
would
ask
that
the
board
acceptance,
Melissa
Hawk
Baker
as
an
expert
witness
in
general
planning
zoning
Redevelopment
planning,
Land
Development
code
and
Land
Development
code
amendments,
special
area
plans
in
overlay,
districts,
site
plan,
review,
landscape
architecture,
historic
preservation
and
comprehensive
sign
programs.
B
Y
Y
Thank
you,
lovely
assistant.
The
property
is
addressed
as
805
South
Gulfview.
However,
it
was
previously
addressed
as
a
551
Gulf
Boulevard,
the
applicant
and
the
developer
in
the
city.
All
I
guess
agreed
that
this
address
makes
more
sense,
because
the
entry
to
the
site
will
be
off
of
Gulfview
Boulevard.
Y
The
property
is
bifurcated
with
the
zoning
it's
about
three
acres
and
the
majority
of
it
is
in
the
tourist
zoning
District.
So
2.867
acres
is
in
the
tourist
district
and
then
on
the
far
southern
end
of
it.
There
is
a
0.166
acres
in
the
open
space
Recreation,
and
that,
of
course,
is
the
area
adjacent
to
the
beach
and
the
Waterway.
Y
Y
The
proposed
use
is
a
resort
attached,
dwelling
use,
which
is
a
dwelling
units
that
may
be
rented
for
any
amount
of
time
period.
So
short-term
rental,
the
maximum
density
permitted,
is
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
based
on
the
lot
size
within
the
tourist
District.
They
are
permitted
86
dwelling
units,
the
proposed
project
as
it's
in
the
tourist
zoning
District
tourist
zoning
District,
doesn't
require
Landscaping
buffers
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
12-foot
buffer
along
the
South
Gulf
View
portion
of
the
property
and
a
10-foot
buffer
along
the
east
property
line.
Y
The
code
is
section
2-803.
Y
This
is
where
you
will
find
the
parameters
for
the
resort
attached
dwelling
units
the
code
contemplates
that
the
height
permitted
is
100
feet.
Maximum
the
proposed
project
is
a
hundred
feet
in
height
the
remainder
of
the
bulk,
an
area
requirements
such
as
setbacks,
lot
size.
Minimum
lot
width
are
all
being
met
or
exceeded
with
the
proposed
project.
Y
B
AP
AP
Okay,
Mr
chair
before
I
start
my
time
we
do
have
some
expert
Witnesses
here
with
us.
We
have
Enrique
Ardella
and
Carlos
Linares
from
randallstaff
architecture.
AP
They
are
both
have
years
and
years
of
experience
and
have
been
intimately
involved
with
Mr,
stop
and
designing
the
project.
And
of
course
we
have
Mr
Robert
bergolizzi
aicp,
planner
and
PTP
Transportation
planner,
so
I'd
like
to
get
him
certified
as
an
expert
as
both
a
planning
expert
and
a
transportation
planning
expert.
We
also
have
Mr
Phil
Graham,
who
is
a
landscape.
B
AP
Good
afternoon,
almost
good
evening,
again,
Mr
chair
and
cdb
members,
this
is
Brian
on
65
4th
Street
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
after
Decades
of
dormancy.
Since
2010
this
project
has
been
an
eyesore
went
out
after
Decades
of
dormancy.
We
finally
have
a
developer,
who
is
proposing
something
that
really
meets
the
intent
of
an
iconic
Landmark
development
to
the
entrance
of
South
Clearwater
Beach
off
of
the
Sand
Key
bridge
when
we
get
into
the
elevations.
The
design
of
this
project
just
perfectly
complements
the
opal
Sands.
AP
This
is
a
250
million
dollar
construction
project
and
it
is
going
to
completely
Revitalize
this
area
with
a
compatible
use.
Resort
attached
dwelling
use
86
units,
which
is
as
of
right
density,
so
again,
I
always
like
to
focus
on
what
is
the
ask
of
you
today?
The
only
ask
today
is
the
100
foot
in
height,
which
is
entirely
consistent
with
Beachbody
Design's
plan
for
this
Landmark
location,
this
Gateway
entrance
location.
It
is
going
to
be
a
crown
jewel
of
Beach
by
Design
when
it's
constructed
the
that
is
substantially
complete.
AP
It
has
been
a
enormous
success,
but
projects
like
this
are
what
we're
going
to
look
back
on
in
the
2020s
and
say
this
really
added
to
the
beach.
This
really
added
to
that
Vision.
That
was
started
in
the
late
1990s
and
we
helped
contribute
to
completing
that.
As
you
know,
the
marquesis
project,
which
is
not
yet
under
construction,
has
already
approved
at
150
feet.
AP
So
this
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
approval
on
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
sinki
bridge
at
a
much
higher
density,
and
we
do
have
a
15
foot
setback
which
exceeds
the
code
to
the
Admiral
house.
The
Admiral
house
to
the
east
actually
sent
a
letter
from
their
board
of
directors
endorsing
the
project
and
you've
also
received
other
letters
of
support
from
throughout
the
community,
endorsing
the
project
which
goes
to
show
you
how
thoughtfully
and
deliberately
it's
been
designed.
AP
We
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
on
May
10th
I
understand,
there's
a
few
more
concerns
that
we
can
talk
about
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
this
could
be
a
much
more
dense
use
if
it's
a
hotel,
they
could
go
to
50
units
per
acre,
which
is
143
units,
as
opposed
to
the
East
for
the
condo
at
a
restaurant
like
it
was
before
you'd
have
you
know
hundreds
of
cars
in
and
out
of
their
day,
retail
I
mean
you'd
have
much
more
traffic
than
for
an
86
unit.
Condo.
AP
These
units
are
going
to
be
between
2
000
and
4
000
square
feet
and
they're
going
to
be
multi-million
dollar
units.
So
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
spring
break.
You
know
Hot
Spot,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
problematic
use
for
this
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
that's
why
you
see
very
little
opposition
to
this
project
and
you
actually
see
a
lot
of
support
for
it.
That's
Mr
perfectly
now
to
come
up
and
go
through
his
testimony.
AM
Good
evening
Robert
Lizzy
with
Gulf
Coast
Consulting
with
ascp
certified
planner
and
a
professional
transportation
planner,
as
Brian
explained,
the
area
is
primarily
high-rise
residential
Condominiums
here
on
Clearwater
Point,
with
a
mixture
of
uses
that
includes
the
Clearwater
Yacht
Club,
Chart,
House,
Hotel
and
Retail
restaurants
and
hotels
that
are
west
of
the
Sand
Key
Bridge,
and
we
have
three-story
condos
to
our
East,
specifically
zooming
in
on
our
site.
Here's
our
site.
Obviously
Brian
mentioned
we
have
marcasus
approved
for
150
feet
in
high
to
the
West.
Yet
to
go
to
construction.
AM
AM
Next
to
them,
just
east
of
them
is
the
sale,
Master
condos,
830,
South,
Gulf,
View,
Nine
Stories,
then
further
to
the
east,
the
yacht
house,
851
Bayway,
Nine
Stories
and
Clearwater
Point
h-55
Daily,
Nine
Stories,
our
proposed
building
is
nine
stores
directly
to
our
East.
Is
the
Admiral
house,
as
Brian
mentioned,
who
those
are
three-story
condos?
They
have
provided
a
letter
of
support
and
you
know
they.
They
are
probably
the
most
impacted
by
this,
but
as
far
as
mitigation,
we
have
provided
a
15-foot
side
setback
where
the
code
requires
only
10.
AM
and
the
portion
of
the
building
that
is
15
feet
from
the
Admiral
house
is
actually
go
to.
The
next
slide
is
here
we
go
so
now.
North
is
up
here
off
of
Gulf
View.
Our
East
setback
is,
is
15
feet
where
10
is
required
by
code
and
the
portion
that
is
right
next
to
their
living
units
is
the
two-story
pool
deck.
The
buildings
are
actually
located
to
the
Northwest
and
directly
to
the
west
of
the
Admiral
house,
so
it
is
not
obstructing
their
views
of
our
abilities
and
obstructing
their
views.
AM
As
far
as
traffic
is
concerned,
we
provided
a
traffic
assessment
which
was
reviewed.
A
number
approved,
reviewed
and
approved
by
your
staff.
The
Project's
traffic
impacts
fall
below
the
threshold
for
a
detailed
traffic
study.
This
traffic
generation
is
only
34
PM
peak
hour
trips,
whereas
the
thresholds
is
51.
Pmp
cow
trips
for
a
detailed
traffic
study.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
the
traffic
impacts
are
considered
insignificant
for
your
Coke.
The
traffic
generation
of
these
86
units
are
about
half
of
the
prior
restaurant
use.
AM
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember
the
love,
rocks
and
I
think
of
the
game
of
shells,
after
that
it
is
also
quite
a
bit
less
than
a
hotel,
a
143
room
hotel.
If
we
go
here
in
addition,
we're
closing
two
existing
driveways
to
South
Gulf
with
Gulf
View
Boulevard,
we'll
be
putting
one
driveway
in
at
the
Far
Eastern
end
of
our
project,
adjacent
to
the
tennis
courts,
which
reduces
the
conflict
points
and,
as
far
is
as
far
away
from
the
Gulf
Boulevard
intersection
as
possible.
AM
We
meet
the
the
project,
complies
with
the
general
applicability
criteria
of
the
code.
Project
is
complying
with
the
flexibility
criteria
for
Resort
attached
dwellings
per
section
2-803l
of
the
code.
So,
finally,
the
site's
a
high
profile
location
at
the
southern
gateway
to
Clearwater
Beach
the
site
serves
as
a
restaurant.
That
closed
years
ago
now
vacant
needs
to
be
redeveloped,
and
the
pros
proposed
relevant
is
permitted
use
complies
with
all
the
flow
requirements.
The
only
flexibility
requested
is
for
height
and.
H
Architects
also
here
with
us,
is
Enrique
rodia,
also
a
project
manager
at
randallstate
Architects
we're
very
proud
to
present
our
project,
which
we
believe
certain
new
bar
in
this
and
this
equality
for
Clear
War
Beach.
A
goal
from
the
start
was
to
have
a
project
that
enhances
Clear,
Water
built
environment
now
and
for
many
years
to
come,
the
light
organic
structures
say
collectively
and
are
intended
to
be
beautiful
from
the
all
visible
angles.
The
Two
Towers
complement
each
other
to
create
a
visual
sculpture.
H
AP
And
who
remembers
in
summation,
I
think
you
can
see,
and
I
do
have
a
hard
copy
of
the
P
of
the
PowerPoint
in
your
in
your
packet.
So
if
you
wanted
to
look
through
that,
this
project
simply
complies
with
every
aspect.
Every
vision
of
Beach
by
Design
and
of
the
code,
the
100
feet
in
height,
is
envisioned
for
this
site.
You
wouldn't
want
a
project
that
isn't
worthy
of
welcoming
people
to
South
Clearwater
Beach
on
this
site.
This
is
a
project
that
is
worthy
of
that.
AP
This
is
again
a
crown
jewel
type
project
similar
to
the
opal
Sands,
the
Sand
Pearl
and
the
fact
is
you'll
actually
be
able
to
see
it
when
you're
driving
over
the
sinky
Bridge.
It's
not
going
to
be
obstructed
by
anything
and
so
I
think
that
being
able
to
see
it
from
the
water
and
from
the
road
is
going
to
make
a
significant
Improvement
it's
going
to
improve
property
values.
AP
The
density
is
as
of
right,
we're
not
asking
for
any
additional
density,
but
so
the
density
is
not
before
you,
the
setbacks
all
meet
or
exceed
the
requirements.
So
the
setbacks
are
not
before
you,
the
15
foot.
Setback
to
the
east
is
actually
in
excess
of
what
is
required.
It's
a
permitted
use
and
again,
the
only
flexibility
is
for
height
I,
wanted
to
point
out
again
that
we've
really
deliberately
and
collaboratively
worked
with
the
staff
on
this,
and
also
with
the
neighborhood.
There
were
two
concerns
that
were
raised.
AP
Nothing
about
our
project
will
impact
that
ability
they
could
do
it
tomorrow.
What
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
either
doing
groins
like
JW,
Marriott
or
adding
sand
and
or
adding
sand
to
create
our
own
Beach,
which
will
require
fdep
approval
and
Pinellas
County
Water
navigation
approval,
nothing
that
you're
doing
today
is
approving
a
beach.
This
is
a
concept,
but
we
will
go
through
the
proper
permitting
and
anything.
AS
You
go
first
yeah
as
I
mentioned
I'm
a
real
coltsopolis
I
represent
the
clear
reporting
Association
we
own
the
buildings
at
800
and
830
South
gulfur
Boulevard
we're
showing
the
picture
here.
Beyond
development,
approximately
we
have
136
homeowners,
youth,
residential
units,
seven
visitor
parking
spaces.
We
have
one
unit
per
for
each
one
of
our
residents,
but
only
seven
that
when
we
were
permanent
40
something
years
ago,
it's
one
of
our
deficiencies
and
I'm
more
well
aware
of
this.
Sport
is
aware
of
us
I've
heard
of
this
and
everything
you
guys
to
take.
AS
AS
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
One
of
them
said
they
were
going
to
demolish
the
one
driveway
and
leave
the
other
one.
Well
that
mean
that
there's
an
increase
in
parking
on
the
road
which
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
neighborhood.
If
that's
the
case,
of
course,
we'd
support
something
like
this,
and
we
would
love
to
see
that
we
do
love
the
use
we'd
like
the
idea
that
it's
not
a
commercial
use
or
a
hotel
or
anything
that
would
have
a
greater
impact.
AS
We
like
the
idea
of
keeping
it
residential,
that's
great,
because
we
are
a
residential
neighborhood,
the
other
concern.
We
did
hear
that
it's
nine
stories
and
we're
Nine
Stories,
but
is
this
hike
going
to
exceed
ours?
Is
it
going
to
create
a
process
now
where
all
the
properties
are
on?
The
perimeter
of
clear
point
now
are
going
to
be
larger
or
possibly
larger,
open
the
door
from
to
be
larger
and
then,
of
course,
now
take
our
high
density
development,
which
is
internalized
to
the
block
and
pretty
much
just
roll
us
off.
AS
AS
B
AI
Afternoon
again,
Christine
Chris
michaelek
855,
Bayway,
Boulevard,
Clearwater,
Point,
again
development
board
you're,
aware
of
our
long-term
monitoring
of
what's
happening
on
the
point,
and
this
project
is
one
that
we've
been
moderating.
We
brought
it
to
your
attention.
I
brought
it
to
your
attention
in
March
when
I
knew
what
was
happening
since
that
time.
AI
I
want
to
congratulate
and
say
thank
you
to
the
planning
department
to
Miss
Hawk
Baker,
who
has
been
very
diligent
in
answering
any
question
that
I
had
given
her
it's
the
first
time
in
my
experience,
working
with
the
planning
department
that
I've
gotten
questions
answered
quickly.
So
thank
you
to
miss
Hawk
Baker.
Secondly,
to
be
honest
with
you
at
this
juncture,
we
are
from
Clearwater.
Point
are
supportive
of
this
project?
AI
I
will
question
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
be
a
jewel
a
crown
jewel
a
question
whether
it's
going
to
be
the
Gateway
a
question
all
of
that,
but
we
have
still
two
concerns
which
I
wrote
to
about
to
you
this
week.
The
first
concern
is
that,
coincidentally,
I'm
finding
out
now,
this
was
start
because
of
the
project.
Coincidentally,
we
lost
several
parking
spaces
on
Clearwater
Point,
those
parking
spaces.
AI
Many
years
when
the
developer
started,
Clearwater
Point
were
given
to
us,
Gratis
and
and
to
date
or
there's
no
charge,
and
now
those
many
of
those
parking
places
have
been
removed
so
we're
at,
and
we
thought
it
was
because
of
the
Forte
sand,
but
we're
finding
that's
not
the
case,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
work
with
the
city
to
find
out
why
those
parking
spaces
were
removed
and
to
possibly
bring
them
back
or
possibly.
AI
The
developer
will
work
with
us
to
grant
us
some
spaces
because
they
will
take
away
the
two
buildings
that
are
budget
to
to
the
north
shipmaster
and
sailmaster
already
do
not
have
enough
parking
for
their
residents
for
their
for
the
owners,
their
guests
and
and
other
family
members.
The
second
question
something
that
what
we
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
and
Mr
orange
referred
to
it
is
when
we
had
a
thank
you,
a
meeting
with
Mr
Farina
about
the
project
we
asked
about
trespassing
on
our
beach.
AI
Many
of
you
know
that
we've
had
this
wonderful
Beach,
which
is
an
enhancement
to
our
project,
to
our
community,
and
we
asked
what
would
be
done
to
ensure
that
there
will
not
be
trespassing
on
our
beach.
What
would
what
kind
of
plan
could
the
developer
come
up
with?
You
will
notice
that
other
projects
that,
through
the
west
of
Sand
Key
Bridge,
have
big
boulders
that
separate
all
those
different
hotels.
Possibly
this
developer
would
do
that
for
us,
we
were
told
by
Mr
wrongs.
Oh
don't
worry
about
it.
AI
W
AT
Good
afternoon
I'm
Lucille,
Casey
and
I
own
it
845
South
Gulfview
Boulevard
in
the
beach
house,
at
Clearwater,
Point
and
I've
been
following
been
a
resident
here
in
Clearwater
since
1963.
So
this
brings
memories
from
when
I
walk
to
the
beach
and
it
was
just
a
beach.
When
we
first
moved
here,
there
was
a
little
Hut
out
where
the
roundabout
is
now
a
little
haunted
Hut
where
people
could
camp
and
one
little
mom-and-pop
Motel
we
used
to
just
go
for
a
couple
of
our
point,
is
and
have
little
picnics
and
walk
on
the
sand.
AT
So
this
is
quite
a
renovation
Revelation
in
the
way
you're
proposing
changing
that
area
of
the
beach
from
The
Quiet
Little
Sandy
Point
to
a
beautiful
Resort
gym,
as
you
say,
I'm
I'm
happy
if
it
does
increase
the
property
values
because
I'm
also
a
realtor
and
sell
a
lot
of
properties
over
there.
I'm
also
happy
because
it's
next
to
our
condo
that
we
own
and
if
that
makes
it
more
desirable,
then
that's
a
good
thing
as
well.
I
have
a
question:
do
you
think
this
Resort
style
compared
it
to
opal
Sands?
AT
AO
AO
Health
concern
about
air
pollution
and
so
heavy
Heavenly
build
the
buildings
and
the
traffic
it's
already
so
terrible
there
and
also
the
parking,
and
it
is
so
hard
for
us
for
the
residents
and
also
so
much
yeah.
Also
I
came
from
New
York
and
something
I've
worried.
Maybe
people
don't
think
even
though
the
Manhattan
is
already
synced,
maybe
a
little
bit
every
year,
and
so
this
has
so
many
places.
Maybe
it's
not
even
Ireland
City,
but
here
also
so
I'm
I'm.
AO
Just
like
the
people
they
were
born
here,
you
know
I
swim
every
day
and
every
single
day
either
in
the
beach.
So
along
the
beach
I
love
everybody,
the
people
who
love
the
beach
and
then
swim.
You
know
I
will
pick
up
all
these
bottles
on
the
list
in
the
in
the
theater.
I
volunteer
all
the
time,
so
I
I
wish
this
city,
it's
more
beautiful,
I'll
share
to
you
and
you
know
it's
a
Beach
town,
so
I
don't
know
you
guys.
I
know
that
you're
all
very
important
to
the
politicians
are
something
developing
business.
AO
AE
Back
to
father
I,
don't
think:
we've
been
together
on
Clearwater,
Point,
I
I
think
I
just
have
to
get
up
and
say
something
I
think
we
know
the
spelling
of
my
name
already.
We
did
meet
in
fact,
as
Mr
Ox
mentioned,
with
the
with
the
own
with
the
developers.
AE
Not
resorts,
not
rental,
I
think
was
a
word,
a
rental
property.
We
were
told
these
were
going
to
be
Condominiums
over
2
000
square
feet,
probably
north
of
two
million
dollars
a
piece
now
I'm
having
a
little
hard
time
sinking
in
the
different
definitions
between
it's
going
to
be
condos,
we're
selling
and
Resorts.
AE
So
this
surprises
me
today
and
and
I
hope
the
city
can
tell
us
or
the
developer
can
tell
us
what
he's
really
building
and
the
reason
I
bring.
This
up
was
is
on.
Another
project
was
given
27
hotel
room
units
from
the
reserve
pool
and
come
to
find
out
that
that's
not
the
typical
hotel
room.
No,
it's
a
two-bedroom
two-bath
condominium
with
an
enlarged
kitchenette
sort
of
area
that
wasn't
our
understanding
when
they
asked
for
hotel
rooms.
So
that's
my
reason
for
is
this
a
resort,
or
is
this
in
fact
actually
Condominiums?
AE
AE
Are
we
sort
of
getting
what's
in
the
right
pocket
or
what's
in
the
left,
pocket
so
I
bring
this
up
to
your
attention,
not
because
we're
against
the
project
overall,
which,
generally
speaking
or
not,
they
are
meeting
up
most
of
the
qualifications,
but
it's
this
interesting
uses
of
words
and
definitions
that
now
concerns
me
and
I
share
that
with
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
Cole
c,
o
l
e
I
live
at
825
South
Gulfview
Boulevard,
which
is
the
Admiral
house.
I
represent
the
board
of
directors
there,
plus
the
36
owners.
L
K
Admiral
house
is
the
one:
that's
already
been
discussed,
we
directly
above
the
property
in
question
here,
and
we
are
100
percent
in
support
of
this
project,
and
that
includes
I
have
not
heard
one
objection
for
any
of
the
36
owners.
So
there's
absolutely
no
problem
on
our
part.
As
for
traffic
it's
been
bought
up,
this
is
going
to
be
less
impact
than
any
hotel
or
large
restaurant,
but.
K
Been
brought
up
for
the
last
10
years,
we've
all
had
to
live
beside
it,
a
large
waterfoot
water,
foot,
front
property,
it
was
vacant
and
believe
me
that
causes
all
sorts
of
problems.
We've
been
subjected
to
drug
deals.
Late
night
parties
live
music,
I
mean
this
is
continue.
Fishermen
Park
and
are
a
lot,
so
they
don't
get
towed
by
the
people
who
own
the
property
fireworks.
K
K
AU
My
name
is
Robert
wilts
I'm,
a
student
with
Purdue,
University
Global,
but
also
founding
director
of
The
Connect,
which
is
a
source
for
homeless
people
run
away,
children,
almost
veterans,
traffic
and
kidnapped
individuals,
be
rescued
and
then
have
a
place
to
be
served.
Q
K
Of
the
point
these
people
haven't
been
down
to
that
Beach.
This
is
a
very
moot
point
to
get
from
that
beach
of
this
new
project
to
ours,
you'd
have
to
walk
to
the
five
feet
of
water.
We
have
lost
this
beach
for
the
last
six
months.
It's
gone
and
so
anybody's
saying
they're
worried
about
the
Milwaukee
lord.
It's
just
not
a
possibility
so.
K
You
know
work
for
our
Democrat,
but
it's
nothing
to
worry
about
at
this
time.
O
I
would
just
like
to
clarify
and
read
the
definition
of
Resort
attached
dwellings
so
that
we
all
know
what
that
means.
A
resort
attached
dwelling
means
an
attached
dwelling
use
located
in
the
tourist
zoning
District,
the
occupancy
of
which
may
occur
or
which
may
be
offered
or
advertised
as
being
available
for
any
term.
So,
essentially,
you
purchase
a
condo.
You
can
live
there,
full
time
you
and
rent
out
your
unit.
If
you
want
to
okay
and
it's
the
same
density
as
a
regular
condo,
you
just
have
the
option
of
renting
it
out.
B
AS
But
just
the
questions
that
I
asked
about
the
parking
on
the
street
would
that
be
increased?
Would
you
get
an
answer
for
that?
We
did
know.
The
parking
lot
would
be.
One
of
the
drivers
would
be
demolished,
but
is
it
going
to
increase
the
parking
I
know
it
was
more
than
one
concern
about
the
parking
the
increase
on
the
street.
D
AS
AP
Yeah
this
is
closing
remarks
yeah.
AP
So
thank
you
again.
Mr
chair
I'm,
going
to
try
to
use
my
time
to
answer
as
many
of
these
questions
as
I
can
number
one.
This
project
has
2.07
spaces
per
unit.
One
and
a
half
spaces
are
required,
so
we
have
in
excess
of
code.
We
have
178
parking
spaces
for
86
attached
to
a
resort
attached
dwelling
units
where
129
are
required.
This
is
a
resort
attached
dwelling.
It
was
applied
for
as
a
resort
attached
filing
it
was
noticed
as
a
resort
attached
dwelling
a
resort
attached.
Dwelling
is
a
condo
under
the
city
code.
AP
There
is
a
definite
a
section
of
residential
uses,
it's
actually
a
table.
Attached
dwelling
and
Resort
attached
dwelling
are
residential
uses.
The
the
city
has
a
definition
of
a
dwelling
unit.
These
are
dwelling
units
over
at
accommodations,
which
are
hotels,
are
not
dwelling
units,
and
so
they
don't
have
full
kitchens.
They
don't
have.
You
know
the
the
facilities
that
you
would
have
in
an
actual
dwelling
unit.
This
is
a
250
million
dollar
project.
The
the
units
are
gonna,
be
between
two
thousand
and
five
thousand
square
feet.
Multi-Multi
multi-million
dollar.
AP
In
price,
there
should
be
no
concern
about
the
quality
of
of
the
building
being
up
kept
and
also
the
impact
neighboring
property
owners
owners.
As
we've
discussed,
the
beach
is
not
really
before
you
today.
This
is
conceptual
that
will
all
go
through
permitting
at
fdep
and
also
Pinellas,
County,
Water
and
navigation.
The
the
client
will
only
be
able
to
build
on
its
own
property.
It
will
not
impact
the
property
rights
of
other
persons
if
other
persons
have
property
rights
out.
AP
There
they're
welcome
to
stake
that
property
and-
and
you
know,
enforce
those
rights
just
like
people
do
on
North
Beach,
just
like
people
do
in
Bel,
Air
Shore,
again,
there's
no
off
street
parking.
This
is
this
project
Parks
itself
or
on
street
parking.
This
project
Parks
itself
at
any
reduction
in
on
street
parking
out
there
to
the
extent
it's
occurred
has
not
at
all
been
related
to
this
project.
Zero
of
that
has
been
at
all
related
to
this
project,
and
there
is
no
restaurants.
AP
If
there
was
ever
a
restaurant
proposed,
we'd
have
to
come
back
and
we'd
have
to
make
sure
the
parking
was
compliant.
There's
no
restaurant,
and
so
it's
a
strictly
a
condominium
that
can
be
leased
for
any
term
and
it
can
be
homesteaded
or
the
person
could
put
it
on
put
it
out
for
short
short
terms.
But
again,
these
are
luxury
units
that
certainly
meet
the
desired
vision
and
the
goals
plans,
objectives
of
Beach
by
Design
and
the
comprehensive
plan
that
will
Revitalize
this
eyesore.
AP
You
know
glided
dormant
property,
that's
been
dormant
for
over
a
decade
and
we're
very
proud
of
of
the
design
and
we're
certainly
proud
of
the
implementation
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
Beach
by
Design
and
the
plan
for
the
city.
If
you
have
any
other
questions
for
us,
we're
happy
to
answer
them.
Thank
you.
B
K
Board
Mr
chairman
I'd,
just
like
to
say
it's
refreshing,
to
see
a
project
move
forward
with
with
consensus
of
the
neighbors
and
really
working
closely
with
the
neighbors
It's
seems
are
very,
very
difficult
goal
to
accomplish
nowadays,
and
it's
remarkable
that
we're
able
to
do
that
here
and
I'm
encouraged
by
that,
and
hopefully
you
know
other
developers
around
Clearwater
will
take
notice,
because
this
is
seems
to
be
the
right
result.
G
N
B
Yeah
I'd
like
to
I've,
been
here
since
the
70s
too,
and
seen
the
leather
rocks
and
the
shells
and
the
vacant
property
as
we
have
it
and
I
mean
I,
think
it's
a
beautiful
project
and
if
it
turns
out
to
be
what
has
all
been
expressed,
I
think
we're
going
to
be
lucky
to
have
it.
B
Unfortunately,
this
board
really
isn't
in
the
position.
I
want
to
get
onto
the
negative
about
doing
trespassing
and
things
like
that.
Obviously,
if
you
own
it,
there's
mechanisms
to
protect
anybody
from
trespassing
on
your
property,
but
again
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
even
before
we
vote
here
for
your
patience
today
with
a
long
meeting.
Getting
to
this
particular
point.
So
thank
you
and
bearing
with
us
in
the
board
and
I,
have
an
uncommon
or
emotion.