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C
Every
several
years
we
do
a
market
analysis
of
our
slip
rents,
so
the
last
time
it
was
done
was
in
2016.
So
just
now
in
February
we
redid
it
again
and
I
in
your
agenda
packet.
You
will
have
seen
the
2020
market
study
which
looked
like
this.
If
you
didn't
print
it
out
or
had
it
and
then
there
was
just
another
one
from
the
marina
Association
of
Marina
industries
that
looked
like
this.
C
This
was
more
of
a
regional
one,
but
it
did
not
the
Gulf
Coast
region,
so
I
put
in
there
just
so
people
could
see
the
difference.
The
difference
between
that
so
I've
got
a
lot
to
talk
about
to,
but
I
thought.
If
anybody
had
any
comments
on
the
on
the
studies
or
if
there
was
anything
you
didn't
understand.
I
wanted
me
to
explain
before
I
went
into
some
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
C
That's
a
common
theme
in
all
of
our
studies,
so
well.
Okay,
then
I'll
start
I'll
kind
of
explain
what
what
I
see
in
this
study
I'll
just
comment
on
this
one.
First,
this
is
the
the
regional
study
that
was
done.
Regional
I
mean
statewide,
not
state
countrywide,
and
it
talked
about
different
rates
for
the
Gulf
of
Mexico
and
on
page
13.
It
lists
rates
for
covered
slips
uncovered
slips,
you
know
and
marinas
and
such
so
that
was
really
the
only
one
that
applied
to
us.
C
But
according
to
this
study,
all
of
the
participants
in
this
study
that
reported
their
rates,
we
are
still
low.
Clearwater
rates
are
lower
than
the
rates
that
this
study
produced
by
about
10%,
and
this
is
for
our
commercial
and
transient
slip
rights.
These
are
just
our
regular
boats
that
we
rent
to
everybody
I'll
talk
about
commercial
slips
separately,
so
that
was
really
the
takeaway
from
this,
and
then
it
looked
in
here
some
of
the
other
things
that
other
marinas
provide.
The
one
thing
I
thought
was
pump
outs
41%.
C
Only
41%
of
the
marinas
nationally
provide
free
pump
out
38%
of
them
that
have
pump
out.
You
have
to
pay
for
so
we're
one
of
those
marinas
that
offer
free
pump
out
and
we're
not
looking
to
change
that.
We
we
do
that
for
a
reason,
but
I
just
thought.
It
was
interesting
that
only
41%
of
the
marinas
in
this
whole
study
offered
pump
outs
for
free.
So
it's
a
good
good
thing
for
us,
and
this
is
again,
this
is
all
types
of
marinas
private.
C
That's
what
you
have
that
you
pay
for
everything
when
you're
in
the
non
private
sectors
or
the
private
sector,
but
municipal,
you
know
we're
a
little
bit
different
there.
So
then
to
the
the
Clearwater
study
again,
when
you
look
at
all
of
the
information
in
here
and
I,
take
some
things
and
I'm
gonna
start
first
talking
about
the
recreational
boaters.
Those
are
just
the
regular
folks
that
have
been
in
our
marinas
and
our
transient,
boaters
and
industry
wide
in
Florida.
We
are
pretty
much
on
target
for
those
slip.
C
Rents
we're
not
we're
not
the
highest
or
not
the
lowest,
we're
kind
of
in
the
middle
there.
So
when
talking
about
what
kind
of
increase
this
should
we
do
this
year,
do
we
need
an
increase
at
all,
looking
at
some
of
the
other
marinas
that
are
higher
than
us
and
have
less
offerings
than
we
have
so
I
think
that
we're
probably
on
track
to
have
a
increase
in
indeed
the
residential
and
transient
slip
brands.
C
Now,
every
year,
I'm
able
to
ask
the
city
manager
to
raise
those
rates
and
I
have
the
ability
the
city
manager
has
the
ability
to
increase
rates
up
to
ten
percent
now
I'm,
not
suggesting
we
increase
recreational
and
transient
boaters
by
ten
percent.
My
recommendation
is
going
to
be
three
percent
and
when
you
talk
about
three
percent
of
a
small
number,
I
mean
it's
really
not
it's.
It's
not
a
big
increase.
You
know,
somebody's
breath
rate
might
increase
five
dollars
a
month
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
huge
amount.
C
So
I
wanted
your
comments
on
that.
Knowing
that
clear
waters
not
the
highest,
not
the
lowest
but
regionally,
you
know
we're
in
a
superior
location
and
that's
why
our
our
rental
rates
are
or
not
a
rental
rates,
but
our
occupancy
rates
are
high.
We
have
a
high
demand
to
be
in
our
marinas
and
it's
always
been
like
that.
Could.
D
C
B
C
We
have
say
we
had
200
slips
available
and
they're
all
different
rates,
so
it
would
be
3%
I,
don't
have
that
number
yet,
but
it's
not
a
huge
number.
It's
just
it's
keeping
us
on
par,
because,
as
rates
change,
you
know
for
the
for
the
recreational
boaters
they
don't
pay
for
water.
They
don't
pay
for
certain
things
that
they're
using,
but
we
always
pay
for
them
and
those
costs
are
always
going
up
so
to
keep
us
just
par
with
our
rates
we
have
to.
C
We
have
to
do
some
sort
of
increase
because
water
rates-
you
know
the
old
saying,
remember
when
water
was
free.
Well,
that's
not
the
case
anymore,
and
now
the
water
rates
are
constantly
going
up.
Trash
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
trash
in
a
moment
to
solid
waste
rates
are
very
problematic
for
us
right
now,
so
just
to
keep
us
on
par
with,
not
you
know,
losing
money,
we're
not
losing
money
but
to
to
stay,
keep
emergent
to
keep
our
margins.
That's
why
I'm
recommending
that
percent.
A
I,
look
all
the
way
up
to
Homosassa
every
every
place
around.
This
is
the
only
place.
That'll
take
a
cellphone,
the
toys
or
foot
uneaten
won't
because
you'll
go
or
ground
all
the
time,
dining
it
in
there
and
yeah
and
they're
gonna
have
a
big
surcharge
over
there
for
dredging
the
marina,
because
a
lot
of
folks
are
on
tilt
and,
as
you
go
right
up
often
the
19th
nobody,
but
nobody
wants
a
sailboat.
I
mean
it's.
This
is
the
only
place
that
you
can
find
deep
water,
yeah.
B
A
I
have
I'm
a
recreational
sailboat,
25
foot
I
feel
like
I'm
at
the
higher
end,
but
and
I
understand,
worries
you
know,
there's
no,
where,
if
you
go
to,
if
you
go
down
towards
John's
pass,
it's
double,
it
is
exactly
diet,
of
course,
you're,
not
questioning
about
six,
ninety
or
months.
If
somebody
wanted
me
and
really
they
just
don't
want.
G
G
A
A
C
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
control
over
that
part.
It's
part
of
parking
system.
I
know
rates,
have
gone
up
for
everybody
on
the
beach
and
the
some
of
the
boat
tenants
got
caught
in
that
too.
They've
enjoyed
the
the
lower
rates
for
many
years,
but
even
employees
that
work
there,
you
know
work
every
day
are
paying
for
parking.
So
it's
just
parking
is
a
problem
everywhere
and
I
guess
for
to
be
as
successful
as
Clearwater
Beach
is.
C
C
B
C
But
I
think
it
I
think
it's
fair
when
you
look
at
what
Clearwater
Beach
offers
and
in
the
superior
location
and
that's
what
our
study
will
tell
you,
some
of
the
private
marinas
they're
completely
full.
They
can
raise
their
rates
through
the
roof
and
they
do
and
people
that
can
afford
to
be
in
there
are
in
there.
You
know
we
keep
our
rates,
we're
in
a
municipal,
marina,
we're
not
in
it
for
price
gouging,
but
we're
in
it
to
stay
sustainable
ourselves.
C
You
know
we're
in
the
process
of
trying
to
to
make
improvements
over
there
and
as
an
enterprise
fund.
The
only
way
we
improve
the
marina
is
the
users
improve
it.
So
all
the
money
that
is
paid
into
the
marina
fund
stays
with
the
fund
and
that's
what
helps
us
improve
it
and,
and
the
second
agenda
item
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
capital
improvement
project.
C
But
these
increases
are,
you
know,
being
banked
they're,
not
there,
we're
not
in
the
red
and
they're,
not
just
to
pay
for
something
they're
there
to
be
banked
for
the
future
being
a
couple
of
year
or
so,
if
you
guys
are
comfortable
I.
Just
wanted
to
get
your
consensus
on
I'm
gonna,
recommend
to
the
city
manager,
a
three
percent
increase
in
residential
commercial
recreational
rates
and
I,
if
you
so
it's
important.
When
was
the
last
increase
last
year,
yeah.
D
G
C
Okay,
now
I'm
gonna
talk
about
the
commercial
slip
rate
right.
Some
all
of
the
studies
that
we've
done
to
date
and
I
have
a
summary
of
them
back
over
20
years.
There
isn't
a
single
one
that
says
clear:
waters
rates
our
under
market
and
we
have
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
increased
the
rates
on
the
commercial
slips
by
10
percent
two
years
in
a
row
and
has
that
brought
has
that
made
us
over
market?
No,
it
has
not.
C
It
hasn't
even
brought
us
to
the
market
right
right
right
now
and
when
I
say
that
it's
hard
to
even
predict
what
true
market
rate
is,
because
there
are
no
other
marinas
that
we
can
compare
ourselves
to
because
of
our
offerings.
You
know
we
have
50
commercial
slips
here
in
Clearwater,
it's
the
largest
commercial
fleet,
anywhere
around
John's,
pass
being
the
closest
to
us,
they're,
a
private
marina,
and
they
don't
even
release
their
their
rent
rates
to
us.
C
They
don't
have
to
so
when
our
surveyor
goes
around
and
asks
people
for
what
you
charge
for
slip,
read
rate
and
so
forth.
They
you
pick
up
the
phone
they'll,
tell
you
what
it
is,
but
on
the
commercial
side,
they
don't
tell
you
what
it
is.
You
have
to
hear
it
through
hearsay
or
somebody
will
tell
you
well
I'm
there
I
pay,
this
I
know
they
pay
that
and
and
what
the
a
thought
is.
It's
it's
thousands
of
dollars
a
month
for
these
commercial
slip,
rents
out
there.
C
You
know
a
large,
you
know
dinner
boat
and
the
you
know:
tour
boat.
They
make
their
slip
rent
on
a
one
one
excursion
a
day
and
then
they're
you
know
I
can
clear
water
in
clear
water.
So,
for
example,
some
of
the
private
marinas
that
the
write
the
rates
are
a
lot
higher
than
ours,
but
they
include
other
things.
They
include
the
water.
C
These
are
commercial
businesses
that
are
24
hour,
not
24
hours
a
day,
7
days
a
week,
365
days
a
year,
so
they're
using
all
this
water
every
day,
they're
using
the
trash
services
every
day,
they're
using
the
you
know
the
infrastructure
of
the
marina
so
where
we
just
base
ours
on
a
say,
a
slip,
rent
and
that's
how
it's
been.
For
many
years-
and
it
used
to
be
that,
although
all
that
all
over
traditionally
slip
rents
included
water
trash
all
these
services,
but
that
was
for
the
recreational
boaters.
C
Those
are
the
voters
that
visit
the
marina
a
couple
of
times,
maybe
during
the
week
on
the
weekends
they're,
not
there
supporting
businesses
every
day
of
the
year.
So
where
you
have
these
commercial
businesses,
you
know
we
require
commercial
businesses
that
you
know
commercial
licenses
to
operate
a
business.
There's
there's
probably
nowhere
in
the
city
of
Clearwater,
where
a
commercial
business
operates
that
doesn't
have
a
water
bill,
a
sewer
bill,
a
garbage
bill,
I
mean
that's
just
part
of
being
in
business
and
it's
and
then
they
have
a
rent.
C
They
pay
their
rent
if
they're,
renting
their
space
and
rents.
You
know
when
you
rent
a
building,
you
you
don't
get
water
for
free
or
garbage
for
free
rent
is
rent
and
that's
how
we're
looking
at
the
slips
here.
You
know
we
charge
a
slip,
rental
rate
and
then
last
two
years
ago
we
added
water
to
that,
because
our
water
bills
were
so
astronomical.
When
you
looked
up
250
slips
that
we
might
be
renting
half
of
that
money
that
we
got
for
the
slips
was
just
to
pay
the
water
bill.
C
We
had
$50,000
a
year
in
water
bills
that
we
were
paying
so
now
when
I
talk
about
raising
rents
at
the
at
the
marina,
it's
not
equitable
across
the
board.
So
for
the
last
couple
of
years
we
did
increase
the
rates
up.
Ten
percent,
that's
the
maximum.
We
can
do
at
the
manager
level
before
going
to
City
Council.
C
Now
the
council
could
double
the
rates
of
if
we
presented
a
proposal
to
them
and
convince
them
that
we
needed
to
and
we're
not
talking
about
doing
that
we're
just
talking
about
raising
rents
within
the
guidelines
that
we
can
do
that
so
out
there
at
the
marina
we've
got
the
different
types
of
the
businesses.
You
know,
we've
got
the
small
fishing
boats,
we
call
them
six-packs.
Then
we
have
the
excursion
party
boats.
We've
got
the
jet
ski
rentals.
We
have
the
the
big
dinner
boat,
so
there's
all
kind
of
users.
C
Some
boats
go
out
three
times
a
day.
Sunset
cruises
dinner
cruises:
all
these
different
excursions,
some
of
the
fishing
boats,
a
smaller
fishing
boats.
They
only
go
out
once
a
day
if
that,
so
those
are
the
ones
that,
when
you
look
at,
if
you're,
just
looking
at,
who
is
benefiting
most
at
the
marina
making
more
money
than
the
others,
but
but
being
charged
pretty
much
the
same.
The
increases
are
the
same
so
I'm
looking
at
this
year,
not
increasing
everybody.
Equally
I'd
like
to
increase
the
the
rent
rates
for
the
larger
capacity
vessels.
C
Now
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
capacity.
The
way
we
rent
our
slips
out
at
the
beach
marina
is
not
by
length
its
it's
by
a
formula
that
was
developed
in
the
90s
by
the
number
of
passengers.
So,
for
example,
if
you're
a
six
pack,
you
have
a
six
pack
rate
if
you're
and
there's
different
tiers
to
that.
C
So
we
have
the
commercial
tenants
that
the
rates
are
based
on
four
passengers:
six
passengers,
seven
to
19
passengers,
forty
to
sixty
nine
passengers,
seventy
to
eighty
nine
passengers,
ninety
to
a
hundred
passengers,
101
to
160
passengers
and
over
a
hundred
and
sixty.
So
you
see
there's
all
these
different
levels
and
in
the
different
level.
C
So
if
you
had
a
boat
that
could
take
four
passengers
on
and
go
out
on
a
fishing
trip,
okay,
you
can
kind
of
figure
out
what
these
this
excursion
cost
for
the
day,
if
everybody
was
paying
$50
a
head
to
go
on
a
fishing
trip,
and
you
saw
six,
people
go
out.
Okay,
that
was
a
$300
trip
for
the
day,
just
using
numbers
like
that.
But
then
you
have
a
ship
that
takes
a
hundred
passengers
and
they
and
they
are
cost
us
$35
ahead.
C
So
you
can,
you
can
do
the
math,
so
you've
got
some
of
our
businesses
out
there
doing
very
well,
and
some
of
them
are
still
these
smaller
X
fishing
trips
and
we're
even
seeing
now
that
these
some
of
the
fishing
smaller
fishing
boats
are
selling
their
businesses
and
the
new
businesses
coming
in
aren't
fishing.
They
want
to
be
up
sightseeing,
they
want
to
be.
We
just
recently
brought
in
a
tiki
cruise
boat
and
that's
people
that
are
just
going
out.
C
You
know
family,
you
know
fishing
people
lot
of
people
still
fish,
but
they
we
have
not
had
any
new
fishing
small
boats
come
in
when
any.
When
the
fishing
boats
leave.
It's
always
something
else,
whether
it's
a
tour
boat,
a
dolphin
excursion,
ice-cream
boat.
So
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
that
and
the
boats
are
getting
bigger.
G
G
C
C
I
wanted
to
increase
the
commercial
and
just
the
commercial
boats
by
five
to
ten
percent,
saying
that
five
percents
going
to
be
for
the
smaller
fishing
boats
and
ten
percent
through
ten
percent
for
the
larger
capacity
boats-
and
there
may
be
some
seven
percent
increases
there
in
the
middle.
Not
not
just
do
a
increase
of
a
blanket
increase
of
10
percent
or
5
percent.
I
think
that
that
some
of
the
smaller
businesses
that
are
trying
to
make
it
out
there
are
impacted
more
by
an
increase
than
the
larger
businesses
that
that
don't
necessarily
see
it.
C
C
No,
they
pay
their
water
and
electric
that's
just
their
depth.
That's
their
base,
ranking
okay!
So
now,
if
you
had,
if
you,
if
you
go
google
any
of
these
fishing
excursion
trips
you'll
find
out
that
these
half-day
fishing
costs
for
these
boats
is
basically
five
hundred
dollars.
It's
$125
a
person
depending
how
many
people
go
so
so
these
guys
can
make
their
rent
in
one
day
and
then,
if
they're,
if
they,
you
know
the
rest
of
the
month,
they
pick
up
these
these
charters.
C
So
you
can
see
you
can
start
to
do
the
math,
what
the
what
the
guys
are
charging
and
what
they're,
making
and
they're
larger
boats
they
take
out.
You
know
large
crowds.
Now
their
boats
aren't
full
everyday.
Now
you
don't
understand
me,
you
know
you
could
have
the
the
pirate
ship,
for
example,
which
can
hold
a
hundred
people,
go
out
three
times
a
day
during
spring
break,
and
you
can
see
it's
full
all
day.
So
I
mean
they
they.
You
know,
everybody
makes
their
money
through
the
season.
C
Like
anybody
else,
that's
it's
like
any
other
business.
You
know.
Restaurants.
You've
got
empty
tables
during
the
slow
time
year,
they're
all
full
during
during
spring
break.
So
these
these
guys
are
no
different
than
that,
but
one
thing
about
Clearwater
Beach's
he's
leaving
because
the
rents
are
too
high
nobody's
leaving
because
they
can't
make
it
there.
We
have
a
waiting
list,
a
twenty-year
waiting
list
to
get
in
for
a
commercial
slip
that
nobody
has
gotten
in
yet
so
if
the
rents
were
too
high
and
people
were
leaving,
we
would
know
about
it.
C
It
would
be
quite
obvious
so
that
we
don't
have
that
kind
of
problem.
We
have
the
opposite
problem
everybody's
there,
because
the
rents
are
reasonable
and
they've
been
there
for
many
years
and
they
want
to
be
there
for
many
years
into
the
future
and
as
the
the
beach
has
grown
more
popular
beach
walk
hotels,
foot
traffic
has
picked
up,
so
they
benefit
from
all
of
the
things
that
have
been
there
and
they've
and
they've
hung
on
in
the
tough
times.
C
D
First
thing:
I
asked:
you
was
a
quick
reaction,
you
know,
I,
don't
run
a
commercial
boat
in
the
marina,
but
if
I
did
ten
percent
two
years
in
a
row
and
potentially
another
ten
percent
for
a
third
year,
wow
that
that
just
starts
to
feel
like
a
lot
in
a
period
of
time
when
that
economy
has
no
inflation
and
so
on,
are
there
cost
factors
driving?
Is
this
just
this
idea
that
gosh
we,
we
probably
could
charge
a
lot
more
because
nobody
leaves
are
there
cost
factors
that
necessitate
those
kinds
increases.
C
C
Money
goes
right
back
into
the
into
the
fund,
so
the
cost
factors
are
okay
market
rate.
We
have
to
look
at
market
rates
around
the
marina,
the
marina
businesses.
Their
rents
went
up
substantially
this
year
based
on
rent
studies.
You
know,
if
you
wanted
to
have
a
rough
spot,
painful
floor,
it's
painful
worship.
It
was
painful
for
you
heard
from
the
barber.
C
But,
but
that
next
that's
the
basis
of
business.
You
know
the
cities
in
business
not
not
necessarily
like
other
businesses,
but
you
can't
have
the
most
popular
spot
on
the
beach
being
the
cheapest
rent.
That's
why
the
parking
went
up.
The
parking
in
the
marina
lied
was
the
cheapest
parking
on
the
beach.
How
is
that
possible?
The
most
in-demand
site
on
the
beach
at
the
cheapest
parking,
and
that's
why
the
lot
was
full
all
the
time,
because
everybody
wanted
to
pay
the
cheaper
price.
So
when
you
make
the
parking
prices
uniform?
C
Okay,
now
you
start
to
disperse
the
problems
that
you
had
at
the
lot,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
reason
for
them
for
the
parking,
but
for
the
for
the
rents
to
be
suppressed.
The
low
market
that
just
doesn't
make
sense
from
a
business
stand.
That's
what
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
so,
if
raising
the
rents
$50
a
month
for
our
fishing
boat,
when
the
same
fishing
boat
is
three
times
that
in
John
pet
and
John's
pass.
Is
that
really
a
burden
to
the
to
the
tenants
here
at
the
marina?
C
D
C
It's
$10
a
foot
plus
350
for
the
commercial
aspect
of
it,
so
that's
$700
a
month
to
be
at
that
marina
and
those
small
slips
there,
but
$700
clear
waters,
512
on
Clearwater
Beach
for
the
for
the
same.
You
know
type
of
thing,
so
that's
where
I'm
getting
it
and
that's
a
published
right
there.
So
so
somebody
wanted
to
go
to
our
pump
for
five
twenty
raise
their
rent
in
the
only
other
place
they
can
go
as
John's,
Pass
and
rents.
Gonna
be
750
for
the
same
slip
that
they
just
left.
C
G
A
C
C
Always
could
jump
the
line
and
the
city
never
benefited
from
that
until
several
years
ago,
where
they,
if
you
want
to
stay
in
the
slip
you
pay
one
year
slip,
rent
back
to
the
city
to
state
to
keep
your
business
there,
or
else
you
know
you
buy
a
business.
You
go
go
somewhere
else,
so
that
was
the
only
way
to
control
the
selling
of
the
slips,
because
the
prices
were
inflated.
I
was
that
you
could
sell
a
canoe
for
$200,000.
C
C
B
B
C
We
could
do
that,
but
I
would
say
probably
wait
for
the
new
marina
to
come.
Online.
I
would
reserve
that
for
because
right
now
the
slips
there's
there's
really
no
two
slips
that
are
the
same
size.
If
you
had
a
six
pack,
we've
had
six
packs.
Some
of
them
have
big
slips
with
docks
associated
with
their
slips.
Some
of
them
are
narrow
slips.
So
over
the
years
as
the
marina
was
built
and
grew,
there
were
no
real
ok.this.
C
B
Would
be
a
proportional
above
that
so
like?
If
I
only
take
up
so
much
space,
then
they
pay
X
amount
of
that
total
aggregate
cost.
And
so
then
you
have
a
situation
where
you're
just
charging
up.
You
know
just
an
additional
fee
based
on
additional
cost
of
the
marina
and
then
after
that,
because
it's
been
increases
over
the
last
couple
years
right.
B
So
then
you
can
add
this
to
it
now
as
a
like,
a
fractional
proportional
cost
of
the
aggregate,
that's
costing
to
run
the
place
and
then
go
forward
with
the
increases
later
and
you
know,
have
those
fees
charged
just
a
spot,
because
if
you
have
the
ability
to
charge
them
based
on
what
space
they
occupy,
then
you
know
you
could
split
those
costs
up
and
it
would
be
lower
for
the
smaller
boats.
You
know
higher
for
the
bigger
bills,
I.
G
C
G
C
And
some
of
the
six-packs
are
bigger
than
35.
You
can
have
a
42
and
it
they're
all
the
same.
It
doesn't
matter
if
you're
thirty
foot
or
a
40
foot
six-pack
it's
the
same.
So
there's
no
real
way
to
do
that.
Not
right
now
would
be
really
hard.
I
think
and
one
of
the
things
in
in
the
the
study
is
talked
about
location
in
the
marina
too.
So
you
know,
we've
got,
we've
got
Coronado,
which
is
part
of
right
there
at
the
start
of
beach
walk.
C
So
there's
all
that
foot
traffic
there
so
they're
saying
that
those
slips
should
be
a
premium
as
far
as
you
know,
to
rent
them.
If
you
want
to
be
in
the
marina
and
you're
on
Coronado
versus
all
the
way
around
the
end
by
the
end
of
the
dock,
you
know,
but
we
don't
do
that
right.
Now,
it's
a
slip
as
a
slip.
You
know
we
pay
per
passenger,
whether
whether
you're
on
Coronado
or
you're,
on
I
could.
G
A
Is
just
my
observation:
from
being
there,
the
garbage
has
grown,
geometrically
I
mean
I,
have
never
when
I
remember
was
one
little
caster
bin.
Now
there's
about
two
or
three
and
they're
automatic,
and
they
see
people
bring
in
loops
of
Garvey's.
They
are
and
I
I
can
see
where
it
must
cost
us
more
money.
I'm.
C
Gonna
after
we
talked
about
the
rate,
I'm
gonna
pass
out
a
handout
that
just
shows
some
garbage
calculations
up.
I
want
you
to
see
some
some
of
our
thoughts
there
with
the
cost
sharing
of
that.
But
with
you
know,
getting
back
to
the
you
know,
location
the
size
of
the
slips.
That's
gonna,
be
the
what's
gonna,
be
very
really
interesting.
When
we
rebuild
a
marina,
you
know
nobody
in
their
lease
is
guaranteed
to
be
where
they
are
at
least
doesn't
say.
C
It
says,
slip
number,
that's
real
area,
but
when
we
rebuild
a
marina
you
know
people
are
going
to
be
moved
because
six-packs
we're
gonna,
have
we're
gonna
build
a
marina
that
makes
sense
that
okay,
these
are
the
larger
slips.
These
are
the
mid
slips.
You
know
slips
are
going
to
be
sized
differently.
It's
gonna
fit,
there's
a
lot
of
wasted
space
there
right
now.
So
a
lot
of
people
are
not
going
to
be
happy.
They're
gonna
want
to
stay
where
they
are.
I
would
do
I'm,
not
saying
everybody's
moving.
C
They
may
be
in
the
general
vicinity,
but
when
the
new,
when
we
work
through
the
marina
plan
and
the
sizes
of
the
slips,
we're
gonna
address
the
price
structure
based
on
location
based
on
area,
because
the
the
passenger
count
rate
structure
that
we
have
is
unique
to
Clearwater.
Nobody
else
does
it
like
that
and
I
can't
find
even
who's
the
first
calculation,
how
they
how
they
got
to
where
they
are
today,
because
we
just
increase
it
by
a
percent.
But
I,
don't
know
what
in
what
went
into
that
original
calculation
there.
A
D
D
C
A
C
We
well
know
that
would
be
the
that's
bigger.
That's
that's
over
a
hundred
passengers.
Somebody
like
that
the
Calypso
would
be
twelve
twelve,
ninety
three
a
month
to
keep
that
boat
in
the
marina,
and
the
put
that,
though
I
mean
at
ten
percent
increase
on
twelve
hundred
dollars.
That's
$120
a
month
on
a
business.
C
C
So
those
that
that's
the
the
type
of
you
know,
that's
why
you
have
to
look
at
it
and,
and
most
of
you
know
most
of
the
larger,
with
the
increases
we've
had
over
the
last
two
years.
It
was
just
the
small
fishing
boats
that
were
vocal
on
it.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
just
because
you
can
be
and
you
nobody
wants
to
pay
more
regardless,
how
much
it
is,
but.
A
C
Don't
know
if
we
have
a
procedure,
you
know,
but
in
in
like
real
estate,
you
know
if
you,
if
you
owned
an
apartment,
complex
for
example,
you
know
they
say
that
you
raise
your
rent
still
until
you
have
people
start
leaving
and
then
about
80%
occupancy.
As
this
is
the
sweet
spot.
You
know
and
I'm
not
saying
we're
gonna
raise
our
ground,
we
don't
want
anybody
to
leave
and
nobody
has
left
with
raising
the
Reds,
even
the
building
attendant
friends,
but
over
the
years
the
the
beach
marina
has
grown
and
it's
always
been
under
market.
D
C
Yeah,
the
the
marina
operates
does
not
operate
on
general
fund;
it
survives
on
user
cost
and
over
the
over
the
years,
there's
been
no
money
banked
from
the
users.
It's
just
it's
been
just
what
comes
in
goes
out.
What
come?
It's
a
it's
that
kind
of
a
you
know.
Little
thing
you
got
to
have
enough
money
in
your
savings
to
weather
the
storm
for
a
couple
of
months.
Well,
we
never
operated
like
that.
If
there
was
a
problem,
you
know
the
the
Beach
Marina
was
always
in
the
red.
C
So
now
we're
starting
to
turn
the
corner
on
that,
and
you
know,
I've
got
to
do
design
costs
over
the
next
couple
years
in
the
tune
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
the
new
marina
and
that's
going
to
be
paid
for
by
the
marina
fund.
There's
no
money
coming
from
the
city
to
do
that,
and
that's
what
these
increases
are
doing
and
that's
what
we
shown
for
our
reserves.
You
know
all
of
the
money
that
we
collect
in
the
reserves.
C
So
so
that's
going
to
be,
you
know,
like
my
discussions
with
the
city
management,
is
we're
going
to
increase
rents
this
year.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
it
up
to
ten
percent
and
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
We've
been
doing
it
just
a
ten
percent
just
to
get
people
to
market
and
we're
still
not
there
at
market.
That's
that's
the
whole
thing
and
I'm
not
trying
to
put
us
out
of
my
above
the
market
I'm
trying
to
get
us
within
the
market
range
and
the
reason
everybody
is
in
Clearwater
there
for
generations.
C
G
Like
I'd
say
that
I
agree
with
just
that,
I
like
any
great
increases,
or
that
it's
necessarily
maybe
a
time
with
the
suffering
they
may
go
through
with
this
virus,
you
know
epidemic
or
pandemic.
Whatever
it
turns
out
to
be,
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna
me
want
to
be
closed
up
on
those
bigger
boats,
the
smaller
boats,
maybe
still
fine,
because
it's
here's
one
little
family.
They
know
where
they've
been.
They
know.
B
That's
why
I
was
sort
against
the
flat
just
nice.
Just
you
peg
it
to
cost.
Then
they
will
be
able
to
watch
what
they're
doing
plus
it'll
it'll
court.
You
know
correlate
with
what
demand
is
for
them
and
if
they,
if
there's
a
you,
know
some
sort
of
cost
sharing
type
of
thing,
and
then
you
guys
can
continue
to
grow
revenues
with
other
costs
being
paid
for
and
subsidized
by
the
users.
So.
A
D
C
So
now
to
continue
on
with
cost
sharing
over
there
with
the
with
the
marina,
the
commercial
attendants.
You
know
two
years
ago,
for
many
years,
when
I,
when
I
came
on
board,
they
always
identified
for
the
last
twenty
years.
Where
were
some
areas
that
we
could
recover?
Some
of
our
costs,
water
and
trash
were
those
the
two
biggest
areas
because
of
the
the
commercial
operations
you
know
every
day
of
every
all
year
long.
These
businesses
are
operating
then
they're
using
water
and
they're
using
the
trash
services.
So
two
years
ago
we
started
to
meter.
C
C
You
know
before
we
started
charging
them
and
what
you
saw
was
you
said,
go
down
during
that
period
because
before
you
know,
when
something's
is
not
you're
not
paying
for
it
you're
very
liberal
with
it,
so
we
saw
water
prices.
Our
bills
were
going
down
because
people
were
replacing
their
hoses,
they
weren't
letting
them
run.
C
We
we
couldn't
used
to
walk
around
on
the
docks
and
turn
people's
hoses
off,
that
just
leaked
or
were
overflowing
or
we're
just
you
know
it
was
just
wasted
water,
you
know,
and
that
you
know
our
meter
was
spinning
and
we
were
paying
these
giant
giant
water
bills
every
month.
So
we
put
the
water
meters
I'd.
You
know
it
really
wasn't
a
big
burden
for
the
smaller
users.
You
know
that
the
commercial
fishing
boats
that
go
out
and
use
water
every
single
day
they
were
paying
like
$30
a
month
for
water.
C
F
C
500,
that
was
water
that
we
had
to
pay
to
reimburse
them.
So
with
the
metering
everybody
says:
oh
wow
now
I'm
paying
for
this.
Let
me
make
sure
I'm
gonna
treat
it
like
my
house,
you
know
I'm
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
no
more
leaky
sinks
and
in
toilet
valves
and
all
this
stuff.
So
that
really
worked
and
we
had
not
one
single
complaint
like
I,
don't
think
you
can
know
about
the
water
used
because
it
made
sense
and
for
20
years
people
said
that
the
commercial
slip
should
start
paying
for
their
water.
C
So
then
we
wanted
to
look
at
trash.
Well,
I
waited
a
year
after
the
water
before
I
even
started
to
look
at
the
trash.
So
what
we
have
out
at
the
beach
marina
now
are
two
compactors
big
compactors
that
are
changed
out
every
other
day.
Sometimes
they
have
to
be
changed
out
every
day,
because
they're,
full
one
of
them,
is
paid
for
a
hundred
percent
by
the
restaurants.
So.
F
C
The
commercial
businesses
and
all
that
all
the
other
commercial
businesses
pay
for
their
water
in
the
restaurants
and
their
sewer
and
their
trash
I
mean
it's
a
commercial
business.
You
know
these
larger
boats
are
restaurants
on
water
they're
just
floating,
so
you
have
to
look
at
them
in
that
sense.
So
when
we
came
when
I
came
over
the
restaurants
weren't
paying
for
their
trash
100%,
they
are
now
there's
no
free
city's,
not
paying
for
any
of
the
rep
of
the
trash
from
these
restaurants.
So
that
cut
our
trash
bill
in
half,
which.
B
C
C
We
collect
around
around
the
marina,
you
know
we
do
that,
but
it's
these
commercial
businesses
that
are
there
every
day,
it's
the
it's,
the
truckloads
of
beer
and
food
that
are
delivering
to
these
to
these
users
every
day
you
see
them
in
the
parking
lot
and
all
that
waste
goes
into
our
recycling
in
our
compactor.
So
I
said
what
would
it?
Let's
just
look.
C
We
have
the
all
these
commercial
tenants
that
are
really
the
use,
the
biggest
users
of
these
services,
the
building
yeah
we
put
bags
in
there
and
we
other
other
people
walking
by
will
throw
their
cup
in
there
whatever.
But
if
you
really
want
to
be
honest
with
yourself,
you
have
to
say
it's,
the
commercial
fleet
that
is
is
the
lion's
share
of
the
trash.
So
this
example
I
gave
you
as
let's
say,
we're
gonna
split
the
bill
with
the
with
the
marina
commercial
tenant.
So
I
did
a
four
four
months
average.
C
The
last
four
months
was
thirty,
four
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars
a
month,
and
that
does
not
include
disposal
cost
by
the
restaurants.
They
pay
100
percent
of
their
costs.
So,
for
this
example,
I
said
we're
gonna
split
that
we're
gonna
say
the
the
marina
when
I
say
the
marina
building
I'm
talking
about
the
the
building
there
with
the
tenants
that
are
in
that
building,
not
the
restaurants,
the
barber
shop,
the
real
estate
company.
C
So
you
can
see
the
other
users
there
that
might
have
some
trash
and
then
the
cans
around
the
parking
lot
that
we
empty
out.
So
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
pay
half
this
bill.
So
what
would
you
want
it?
How
would
you
split
that
up
so
I
said
we're
going
to
split
it
up
into
tiers,
we're
gonna?
Look
at
the
by
passenger
count.
That's
the
only
available
tool.
We
have
right
now,
so
we
always
have
to
go
back
to
it
to
make
it
apples
and
apples.
C
So
I
looked
at
the
category,
so
tier
one
I
said:
six.
Passengers
are
less
tier,
two
seven
to
thirty
nine
passengers
tier
three,
forty
to
sixty
nine
tier
four,
seventy
plus
and
if
I
can
give
you
examples
of
what
a
tier
two
passenger
is
I
have
the
list
here.
So
I
said:
okay,
let's
see
how
many
we
have
in
each
category,
so
you
can
see,
we've
got
seventeen
six-packs
or
less.
We've
got
17
between
seven
and
forty.
We
have
six
between
forty
and
sixty
nine
and
we
have
ten
over
seventy.
C
So
then
you
have
to
look
at
well
who
who
are
using
what
are
what's
the
the
trash
generated
by
these
these
vessels?
So
I
wanted
to
do
a
contribution,
so
the
small,
the
smaller
boats
are
the
ones
I
see
what
they
do.
They
they
have
very
few
trash,
they
throw
away
a
small
bag,
but
they
all
have
fish
that
they're
cutting
up
and
that
all
goes
into
our
art
dumpsters
that
we
have
to
pay
to
clean
and
sanitize.
So
we
have
to
keep
the
odor
down.
So
that's
a
big
problem.
C
We
have
is
the
fishing
odor
there
too,
and
then
you
have
the
other
second-tier
boats.
Those
might
be
your
your
ice-cream
boats,
you
know
they
just
have
trash
associated
with
their
whatever
they
might
be,
selling
or
giving
away
on
the
boat
and
then
their
ticket
checks.
Everybody
has
trash
generated
by
their
ticket
shacks
and
their
souvenirs
and
offices
and
everything
else
they
have
out
there.
Then
you
get
up
to
the
larger
boats,
where
it's
beer,
bottles
and
cans.
F
C
I
said:
well:
what
would
that
look
at?
So
if
you
took
half
the
bill
and
you
did
that
the
tear
example
that
I
gave
you
and
divided
it
by
the
users,
the
cost
per
month
for
the
six
pack
is
eight
dollars
and
nine
cents
a
month.
I,
don't
think,
that's
a
lot
to
ask
for
a
person
to
give
them
solid
waste,
and
these
are
these
are
just
a
reimbursement
to
us.
C
If
you,
if
you
had
your
own
solid
waste
account
if
we,
if
we
decided
okay,
we're
out
of
the
trash
business,
everybody
out
there
at
the
marina
has
to
get
their
own
solid
waste
account,
you
would
pay,
you
would
have
to
get
your
own
black
barrel.
If
you
could,
if
you
could
run
your
business
with
a
black
barrel,
your
bill
for
that
black
barrel
would
be
seventy
six
dollars
a
month
for
four
one
for
a
one
black
barrel
that
and
that's
picked
up
once
a
week.
C
Now,
if
you
needed
twice
a
week,
pick
up,
it
would
double.
If
you
need
it,
you
know.
That's
that's
if
you
needed
two
black
barrels.
So
then,
if
you
needed
two
black
barrels,
it
be
a
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars
a
month
for
your
to
your
second
black
barrel.
It's
all
about
volume
here
and
then,
when
you
have
your
own
account,
then
you'd
have
to
pay
that
doesn't
even
include
recycling.
There's
a
recycling
fee.
C
There's
all
these
fees
and
taxes
that
we
pay
on
our
large
account
and
all
I'm
trying
to
recover
is
just
the
portion
of
the
solid
waste
cost,
not
all
the
other
things.
So
it's
a
lot
less
impact.
If
I
told
you
that
everybody
had
to
have
their
own
water
account
just
like
the
water
and
the
electric,
we
have
the
master
meter
and
we
just
you,
pay
for
exactly
what
you
use
and
then
I've
got
to
do
all
the
billing
I
have
to
do
all
the
reading.
I
got
to
do
all
the
invoicing.
C
A
C
D
B
C
Would
well
the
trash,
makes
perfect
sense
and
I'm
not
suggesting
10%
increase.
All
this
trash
I'm
saying
this.
These
are
some
of
the
vehicles
that
that
we
can
use
to
to
recover
ourselves.
You
know
we're
we
don't.
You
know
we're
the
the
master
account
so
I
don't
need
all
these
trash,
compactors
and
I've
got
to
keep
them
empty
and
clean
and
and
pay
the
bill
on
them,
and-
and
no
there's
no
benefit
to
me
other
than
to
keep
my
my
customers
happy
that
you
know
are
that
are
using
it.
C
So
so
in
this
example,
though,
if
you
were
the
the
tier
4
and
you
were
paying
for
trash
a
hundred
and
three
dollars
a
month.
In
this
example,
that's
for
running
your
business
every
single
day.
That's
more
that
that's
less
than
an
average
single-family
house
water
sewer
garbage
bill.
It's
a
hundred.
A
hundred
and
three
dollars
is
the
average
for
a
single
family.
A
C
You
live
in
clear
water,
you
know
your
bill,
we
have
comes
in,
but
for
commercial.
They
it's
different.
You
know
for
commercial
businesses,
they
don't
operate
out
of
the
black
cans
they
operate
out
of
the
the
bigger
you
know.
A
black
can
is
that's
96
gallons,
that's
that's.
Half
I
learned
all
this
stuff
that
I'd
it's
a
half
a
cubic
yard.
So
two
of
those
black
bins
is
one
cubic
yard.
C
If
you,
if
you
could
think
of
that,
and
most
businesses
have
either
two
or
three
of
those
black
bins
or
then
they
go
to
the
bigger
five
cubic
yard
or
ten
cubic
yard,
dumpster
style
things
and
those
dumpster
costs
are
astronomical
for
businesses.
You
know
it's
hundreds
of
dollars
a
month
for
a
dumpster
and
these
some
of
these
businesses,
if
they
had
their
own
Solid
Waste
bill,
would
need
a
dumpster
and
we'd
have
dumpsters
everywhere,
but
we
are
able
to
contain
it
with
compactors
that
that
are
changed
out
regularly.
So
so
this
is.
C
C
Gonna
propose
to
do
this.
The
rent
is
still
gonna
be
discussed,
but
I'm
gonna
propose
to
do
the
this
utility,
because
these
are
real
costs
that
that
the
marina
is
paying
for
every
month
and
if,
if
the
marina
could
recover
half
of
this
thirty
four
hundred
dollar
bill,
that's
you
know
fifteen
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
goes
into
the
to
the
fund
to
pay
for
the
improvements
at
the
marina.
It's.
D
Actually,
a
lot
more
money
than
you
were
talking
about
with
the
rent
increase
right.
The
smaller
guy
to
your
one
I
think
you
were
talking,
is
five
hundred
and
something
a
month,
so
you're
gonna
increase
him,
maybe
maybe
as
much
as
fifty
bucks
a
month,
maybe
out.
If
you
don't
do
the
ten
percent
here,
you're
talking
about
eight
died
when
this
is
far
more
beneficial
for
your
operation.
If
you
did
this,
instead
of
a
rent
increase,
you
come
out
way
ahead.
Ya.
C
G
Like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
follow
up
with
this
and
enforce
this
I
think
of
the
what
it
comes
down
to
the
way
you
broke
it
down,
these
little
guys
are
not
gonna
complain,
yeah.
F
G
C
So
now,
I'm,
really
more
organized
I,
just
have
to
get
everything
I
wanted
to
just
give
you
guys
kind
of
an
update.
You
know
when
last
year
everybody
was
talking
about
the
Beach
Marina
rebuild,
and
that
was
kind
of
in
the
paper
in
the
news
and
the
reason
that
got
the
coverage
it
did
is
because
it
entered
into
our
five-year
CIP.
So
as
soon
as
you
know,
when
we
start
planning
for
projects,
you
know
they
don't
happen
overnight.
So
in
our
capital
improvement
project
plan,
the
beach
marina
now
got
into
that
five-year
plan.
C
So
next
year,
it's
four
years
three
years,
two
years.
One
then
we're
there.
So
over
those
that
five-year
period,
the
clock
is
already
sticking
ticking
I'm
already
doing
things
for
the
future
out
at
the
beach
marina.
So
I
wanted
to
go
over
the
schedule
of
some
of
the
things
that
are
happening
now
and
what
to
expect.
C
We
have
to
inspect
that
seawall
from
the
corner
of
Hampton
and
Coronado
all
the
way
around
to
the
overpass
Mandalay
bridge.
That's
1500
feet
of
seawall
and
cap,
all
Sewall
that
is
very
aged
in
it
needs
to
be
repaired,
so
that
is
going
on
right
now.
So
I've
got
an
engineer.
That's
going
to
give
me
an
inspection
report
and
recommendations
on
what
needs
to
be
done.
The
tie
backs
are
all
old,
they'll
need
to
be
replaced.
We
cannot
put
the
investment
in
the
marina
without
addressing
the
seawall
and
the
uplands
behind
it.
C
So
the
new
footprint
of
the
marina
will
push
the
marina
to
the
south,
more
that
we
can't
go
to
the
west
or
to
the
east,
but
we
can
go
to
the
south
there's
some
some
land
there
that
if
the
docks
are
built
differently,
we'll
have
additional
land
we've
maybe
get
some
bigger
slips
in
there
that
we're
in
desperate
need
of
larger
slips.
But
until
we
get
our
our
design
configurations
done,
we
won't
know
what
the
marina
will
look
like,
but
this
depth
survey
is
something
you
talked
about
earlier
for
sailboats.
C
We
want
to
know
what
the
depths
are
and
we're
going
to
have
some
pockets
that
probably
might
need
some
dredging
in
there.
The
marina
hasn't
been
dredged
in
a
long
time,
so
so
I'm
doing
the
survey
now
and
all
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
given
to
the
design
professionals
when
we're
ready
to
start
designing
the
marina.
We
can't
wait
for
3
years
to
hire
a
design,
team
and
they're
gonna,
say
well
how
deeps
the
water
out
there.
What's
the
depth?
Here's
your
survey:
what's
the
condition
of
the
seawall
all
of
these
things.
C
C
Uh-Huh
and
these
things
this
topographic
survey
that
see
well,
this
is
all
paid
for
out
of
the
marina
fun.
These
same
costs
that
I'm
saying
that
I'm
that
I'm
incurring
now
are
paid
for
by
the
users,
which
are
the
commercial
business
of
recreational
businesses.
So
so
those
are
costs
that
are
happening
right
now.
We've
already
did
a
utility
assessment.
We've
got
utilities
out
there
from
the
70s.
You
know
all
those
panels
are
corroding
they're,
the
the
report
that
we
did
and
we
we
did
all
these
load
calculations.
C
What
people
are
using
all
of
these
bigger
boats.
Everything
is
you
know
that
the
system
is
stressed
and
the
the
summary
of
the
electrical
report
said
that
the
system
is
beyond
its
useful
life
and
must
be
updated
or
replaced.
So
that's
not
a
very
good
recommendation,
but
I
knew
that
going
in,
but
I
needed
to
know
what
the
loads
were.
How
many
breakers
I
had
all
these
different
things
that
are
out
there.
So
now,
when
I
redesigned
the
new
marina
I
give
the
these
are
these
boats
aren't
going
anywhere?
C
The
water
and
things
that
are
going
to
go
through
the
seawall
out
onto
the
docks.
So
that's
a
separate
project.
So
behind
that
seawall,
there's
50
years
of
utility
work
out
there
and
we've
opened
that
sidewalk
up
many
times
and
when
you
open
it
up,
you
can't
wait
to
fill
it
because
it
just
looks
like
spaghetti.
It's
just
lines
crossing
lines,
there's
old
phone
lines,
cable
lines,
water
line,
sewer
line,
you
name
it
it's
back
there.
C
So
so
that
has
to
be
addressed
so
I
already
have
a
firm,
that's
done
a
preliminary
study
and
has
given
costs
on
what
it's
going
to
take
to
redo
the
utilities
behind
the
seawall
in
advance
for
the
new
marina,
the
new
marina
cannot
be
built
with
those
old
utilities
back
there.
So
that's
a
project
number
one.
C
We
won't
raise
the
scene
while
that
high
it'll
it'll
be
raised
a
distance,
but
not
two
or
three
feet:
it
wouldn't
matter
and
to
raise
it
in
one
location
only
because
water
would
just
come
around
it.
You
know
that's
the
thing
about
sea
walls.
If
you
have
a
seawall
behind
your
house
and
you
raise
your
raise
it
two
feet,
it
doesn't
do
anything
because
the
water
just
comes
around
it
from
the
others.
You
have
to
raise
everything
you
know.
C
So
so
what
are
the
next
step?
So,
as
I
said,
the
last
couple
of
years
we've
been
increasing,
adding
money
to
our
CIP.
That's
our
capital
improvement
projects
for
the
beach
marina.
We've
been
balancing
our
budget
after
the
end
of
the
year
and
all
of
the
reserves,
the
what
would
normally
go
into
reserves
is
going
into
that
CIP
to
pay
for
these
things
so
beginning
the
fiscal
year
which
begins
October.
C
1St
2020,
through
September
30th
2021
I'm
gonna,
put
out
an
RF
q,
a
request
for
qualifications
to
bring
on
a
design
professional
to
start
the
design
on
the
new
marina,
giving
that
team
all
of
the
stuff
that
we've
already
done
that
they're
gonna
need
anyway,
a
request
that
we
have
so
they'll
have
a
lot
of,
and
they'll
still
need
more,
but
the
basic
stuff,
the
most
important
stuff
that
they'll
need
they'll
have
in
their
hands.
So
so
that's
going
to
be
a
year-long
effort.
So
what
this
group
is
gonna
do
in
this.
C
C
F
C
And
that
is
only
because
we've
been
saving
the
money
each
year
and
putting
money
into
that
budget.
I
think
right
now,
there's
over
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
account
right
now,
for
this
early
design,
work
and
there'll
be
another
200
that
will
go
in
in
October,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
having
design
money
only
because
we've
planned
for
it.
Our
surplus
is
about
200
a
year.
C
Iii
would
get
back
to
you
on
that
I.
Don't
I,
don't
want
to
use
a
number
like
that,
because
the
money
comes
from
different
sources.
You
know
we
have
three
enterprise
funds,
so
I'm
just
talking
about
the
beach
prize
funds,
so
our
budgets.
What
is
our
budget
each
year?
Mike?
It's
like
two
million
and
yeah
two
million
dollars
a
year
budget.
So
yeah,
you
know
we
get
our
money
and
one
of
our
biggest
contributors
is
our
fuel
sales.
C
You
know
by
the
beach
having
the
fuel
there
that
money
is
a
big
contributor
to
our
to
our
reserves.
What
the
fuel
is
4.5
million
roughly.
Yes,
we
saw
quite
a
bit
so
so
normally
what
you
would
do
at
the
end
of
the
year,
all
your
all.
Your
extra
money
goes
into
reserves
and
we've
got
a
CIP
now
that
just
takes
all
that
money
and
puts
it,
it
builds
into
that
CIP
because
our
reserves
have
to
be
kept
at
a
certain
level
by
ordnance
being
an
enterprise
fund.
C
We
have
to
have
25
percent
of
our
budget
and
you
know
there's
different.
We
can't
go
below
certain
threshold,
so
I
have
to
keep
all
of
the
reserves
at
a
healthy
level
and
they
are
at.
They
are
healthy,
now
and
I'm,
putting
the
other
money
into
the
capital
improvement
projects
to
pay
for
them,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
have
to
do
is
if
we
don't
have
enough.
If
this,
if
this
marina
cost
more
than
15
million
dollars
to
build
I,
don't
want
to
bond
design
money.
C
C
That's
that's
that's
hard
money.
Yes,
so
right
now
we
have
15
million
dollars,
plus
whatever
excess
reserves
that
are
going
to
be
available
and
the
way
that
I'm
doing
this
is
we're
gonna
do
an
RFQ
for
a
designer
and
then
at
30%
design.
We're
gonna,
bring
a
construction
manager
on
board
I'll.
Do
a
second
RFP
request
for
proposals
to
bring
a
design
a
construction
manager
at
risk.
They
call
those
the
worst.
C
The
biggest
problem
you
could
ever
have
is
to
design
something
you
can't
afford,
or
you
can't
build
and
that's
why
this
mechanism
for
design
construction
man,
nature
is,
is
that
at
30%
they
already
do
a
constructability
analysis
at
what
the
design
is
there,
the
industry
professionals
they
will
make
recommendations
to
the
designer
where,
where
the
costs
are
what's
driving
the
cost
of
this
project,
then
you
have
some
value
engineering
start
to
come
in.
So
what
a
construction
manager
does?
C
He
takes
the
project
early
on
and
saves
the
project
money
from
a
designer
doing
something
that
you
have
to
redesign
at
the
end.
If
you
did
a
traditional
design-bid-build,
you
design
a
project
everybody's
in
love
with
it.
You
put
it
out
to
bid,
then
you
find
out,
you
can't
build
it.
It's
too
expensive.
The.
C
And
he
he
works
with
the
consultant
with
the
architect
with
the
engineers
to
do
that.
Constructability
analysis
to
actually
have
a
product
at
the
end
that
you
can
build.
Meanwhile,
the
designer
is
doing
the
design
and
doing
the
permitting
for
it.
So
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
going
to
get
a
guaranteed
maximum
price
from
your
team.
Before
you
do
anything,
then
you
know
where
you
stand.
So
that's
that's.
C
My
goal
now
is
for
next
year
to
do
the
bring
the
designer
on
board
to
start
working
30%
plans
and
then
have
the
construction
manager
to
also
work
with
the
phasing.
The
biggest
problem
we're
going
to
have
out
here
is
that
it's
an
active
site
and
it's
going
to
be
done
in
multiple
phases
and
somebody's
going
to
have
to
manage
that
and
the
only
one
that
can
manage
it
is
going
to
be
the
one
that's
building
it.
C
So
I
can't
tell
a
construction
contractor
to
do
this
first,
that
second,
this
third
they're
gonna
have
to
decide
where
the
demo
occurs.
First,
you
know
you're
gonna,
you're,
gonna
demo,
this
section
these
15
slips
are
gonna,
be
impacted.
Where
are
these
15
boats
gonna
go?
How
are
these
businesses
going
to
operate?
How
are
they
going
to
sell
tickets
for
their
business
where's
the
kiosk
to
to
do
this
all
going
to
be
where's
the
ice
machines
going
to
be
for
them?
C
So
there's
a
lot
of
stuff:
that's
going
to
be
built
into
the
construct,
ability
and
demolition
plan
that
I
need
a
construction
manager.
That's
actually
going
to
be
in
charge
of
that.
We
cannot.
The
city
cannot
in
the
way
of
a
construction
contractor
and
a
project
like
this
on
Clearwater
Beach,
that's
as
busy
as
it
is,
so
the
construction
is
going
to
take
two
years
because
it's
not
a
clean
slate
downtown.
We
built
that
in
a
year,
but
nobody
was
in
our
way
we
had
the
luxury
of
a
barge
could
sit
wherever
it
wanted.
C
C
G
There's
no
new
business
or
anything
and
then
like
I,
swear
to
gosh
the
next
day.
There's
a
story
about
the
costume
overruns
or
something
of
the
bathroom
at
the
Seminole,
marina
or
people
were
questioning.
Why
that
why
it
was
so
expensive,
I
can
speak
to
that.
I
should
know
what's
going
on
here,
but
our
meeting
was
canceled.
I
was
just
kind
of
surprised
that
I'd
see
a
story
like
that,
like
within
days
literally
of
our
meeting
being
canceled
yeah.
F
C
Happened
there
was
that
the
council
on
the
council
agenda
engineering
took
that
project.
That
was
an
engineering
project,
even
though
it's
on
the
boat
ramp
for
us
we're
gonna,
be
the
project
donors
and
the
question
came:
oh,
my
god,
a
million
dollars
for
a
bathroom.
Why
is
this
so
expensive
and
the
reason
it
it
was
expensive
was
because
it
is
being
built
in
the
flood
zone.
So
in
order
for
that
and
then
the
question
was
what
can
they
build
it
out
of
the
flood
zone?
What
would
that
look
like?
C
So
we
did
an
analysis
where
that
restroom
could
be.
There
were
three
locations
that
were
chosen.
One
of
them
was
next
to
the
Playhouse
Theatre
to
the
west.
One
of
them
was
on
the
all
the
way
on
the
water,
and
then
one
was
right
jacent
to
the
docks.
If
he
wanted
it
out
of
the
flood
V
zone,
you
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
Osceola
to
do
that
because
of
the
elevations
that
the
east
of
the
theater
500
feet
from
the
boat
ramp.
C
So
the
area
up
there
was
the
new
parking
lots
we
built.
So
we
we
would
lose
our
parking
to
put
a
restroom
at
the
top
of
the
hill
and
then
have
people
competing
with
the
parking
lot
and
the
trailer
traffic
and
the
boat
traffic
walking
five
hundred
feet
to
and
from
this
restroom.
So
the
pattern
we
chose
was:
we
didn't
want
it
by
the
Playhouse,
because
you're
still
gonna
have
to
cut
across
VOC
traffic.
C
We
didn't
want
it
on
the
point,
because
then
you
have
to
walk
in
front
of
the
ramps
and
most
of
the
traffic
that
goes
to
the
ramp.
If
you're
driving
down
Seminole
Street
with
a
party
of
four
you
stay
in
line
to
get
to
the
to
the
ramp,
once
you're
next
say
you're
the
next
car
to
launch
your
other
three
people
get
out,
they
stand
there.
There's
the
restroom
they're
using
that
area
to
wait
that
puts
the
boat
in
and
then
one
person
parks
the
car.
C
So
it's
like
a
drop-off
point
so,
rather
than
if
you
had
a
restroom
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
you've
got
mobs
of
people
in
the
parking
lot.
So,
but
we
did
do
the
constructibility
of
it
up
at
the
top
of
the
hill
and
it
really
only
saved
about
$80,000.
If
you
were
to
do
that,
so
it
wasn't
really
beneficial
for
us
to
build
it
up
there.
It
still
needed
a
lift
station,
that's
the
cost!
If
you'll
notice
anywhere.
C
All
of
these
restrooms
are
elevated,
honeymoon
island,
then
tea,
Davis,
Beach,
just
built
on
Sunshine
Skyway.
You
see
those
four
restrooms
are
building
over
there.
It's
a
it's
a
state
requirement.
We
have
to
build
it
and
it
has
to
be
a
DA
accessible.
We
had
to
have
an
elevator,
those
were
the
drivers,
the
elevator.
We
have
to
have
a
lift
station
to
pump
the
the
sewer
up
up
the
hill,
so
it
really
turned
into
it's
a
$900,000
restroom
contingencies
are
in
there.
C
We
have
a
guaranteed
maximum
price,
900,000
30,
something
like
that,
but
you
always
put
a
contingent
see
in
this
case.
We
probably
won't
use
that,
but
its
built-in,
so
we're
gonna,
bring
back
to
Council
I'm
doing
it
next
week,
this
restroom
back
at
Seminole.
So
it's
on
the
agenda
again,
it's
within
budget
yeah.
It
is
it's
not
a
cost
overrun
at
all.
In
fact,
the
overall
project
is
under
budget,
so
we're
enjoying
a
surplus
on
this
project.
Because
of
some
you
know
the
engineering
we
did
it
at
the
beginning.
We
had
a
budget
something
loud.