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A
A
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
then
we've
got
some
district
councillors
district
councillor,
charmaine
crabb
and
district
councillor
toya
tucker
we've
got
department
heads
here
around
the
room:
our
finance
director
engineering,
director,
our
inspections
and
co-director,
our
fire
ems
chief
we've
got
the
person
who
is
going
to
actually
present
some
projects
to
you
tonight:
deputy
city
manager,
pam
hodge,
and
we're
happy
that
we
have
people.
This
is
we're
fortunate
to
have
ccgtv,
because
we
can
televise
things
live
and
we
can
re-broadcast
and
we
can
youtube
live
stream.
A
We
can
do
all
that
stuff
and
so
with
those
technology
resources.
That's
exactly
what
we're
doing
tonight,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
those
who
are
here
in
person
and
want
to
thank
those
who
are
watching
by
television
or
about
using
other
technology,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
recognize
deputy
manager,
lisa
goodwin,
but
she's
here
also,
but
thank
you
for
your
attendance.
Thank
you
for
watching
my
television
with
that
and
I'm
sure
the
mayor
will
have
comments
if
he
is
able
to
make
it
from
his
other
conflict.
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B
A
Yes,
yes,
we've
got
a
meeting
tonight.
We've
got
a
meeting
thursday
night
in
this
at
the
same
location,
5
30
until
seven
and
then
we've
got
one
next
monday,
the
21st
of
june
from
5
30
to
7
00,
and
so
you
can
come
to
each
and
every
meeting.
If
you
just
like
coming
out
here
and
being
with
us
or
you
can
watch
it
on
television
ccgtv
each
and
every
time,
if
you
just
like
this
show,
and
but
deputy
city
manager,
pam
hodge,
will
tell
you
how
to
reach
us
and
how
to
make
comments.
A
Share
your
input
and
do
all
of
that,
because
this
was
something
this
will
be
a
list
of
projects
that
you,
the
citizens.
The
people
of
this
community
will
decide
what's
on
the
ballot
if
it
goes
on
the
ballot
and
and
you
it's
the
power
flows
from
the
people
to
the
government,
that's
government.
So
with
that
deputy
city
manager,
pam
hodge,.
C
So
good
evening
we
are
here
tonight
to
talk
about
the
special
purpose:
local
options,
sales
tax
and
the
mayor,
as
well
as
the
councilors
have
talked
about
back
to
basics,
taking
care
of
those
assets
within
the
city
that
we
have
and
not
new
assets.
So
we'll
go
through
this
presentation,
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
There
is
the
ability
for
people
watching
from
home
to
also
ask
questions
if
you're
not
here
in
person-
and
I
will
go
through
that
really
quick-
and
I
have
this
slide
throughout
the
presentation.
C
C
C
5897918
and
hit
submit
and
you'll
come
to
this
screen,
so
all
you
have
to
do
is
type
in
your
question
and
hit
enter.
We
have
someone
that
will
be
monitoring
this
and
at
the
end
of
the
session
she
will
be
sending
me
all
of
the
questions
that
were
posed
during
our
time
today
and
we'll
be
able
to
respond
to
all
those
questions.
So
let
me
pull
that
back
up
on
the
screen.
It's
minty.com.
C
C
C
So
this
is
just
the
timeline
for
the
splost
and
I
will
be
pulling
that
slide
back
up
again
throughout
the
presentation,
just
as
a
reminder
for
you
to
be
able
to
see
the
phone
number
as
well
as
the
code
to
type
that
in,
but
the
splost
is
planned
for
november,
2nd
to
be
on
the
ballot
and
so
working
backwards
from
that
date.
The
call
for
the
election
will
be
august.
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C
C
We'll
have
this
all
posted
to
our
website,
we'll
be
able
to
share
it
on
social
media
so
that
we
can
get
as
much
feedback
from
the
citizens
as
we
can
so.
The
2021
splost
is
recommended
for
400
million
dollars.
That
is
approximately
about
a
10-year
time
period
of
collections,
which
is
typically
how
long
our
previous
lost
lasted.
C
200
million
of
that
is
proposed
for
a
general
obligation
bond
for
the
judicial
center
and
then
all
other
projects
on
the
list
would
be
pay
as
you
go
and
we'll
spend
this
evening
going
through
those
projects
and
outline
those
as
we
move
forward
when
we
started
looking
at
the
government
center
several
years
ago,
we
had
a
lot
of
challenges
with
the
government
center.
We
brought
in
a
team
to
help
us
evaluate
the
government
center
and
four
options
of
how
to
address
issues
that
we
were
having
with
the
government
center.
C
Those
four
options
included
option,
one
which
was
to
renovate
the
tower
and
add
an
addition
to
the
existing
government
center
option.
Two
was
a
new
complex
on
the
existing
site
option.
Three
was
a
new
court
on
the
existing
site
and
the
government
general
government
administration
on
a
different
site
and
then
option
four
was
just
to
rebuild
a
judicial
center
and
administration
building,
either
one
building
or
two
buildings
on
a
new
site.
So
those
were
the
four
options
that
our
consultants
reviewed
along
with
staff
and
evaluated
them.
C
One
of
the
things
they
looked
at
was
right-sizing
the
government
looking
at
the
square
footage
that's
required
for
the
operation
of
city
government,
which
is
administration,
those
things
like
finance,
I.t,
human
resources,
city
managers,
office
mayor's
office,
inspection
and
codes,
engineering,
those
administrative
city
government,
as
well
as
looking
at
the
courts
and
the
and
the
supporting
offices
that
support
the
courts.
What
they
found
was
for
best
practices.
C
City
government
is
about
the
right
size.
We
were
at
102
000
square
feet.
The
city
government
should
be
about
107
000
square
feet,
so
not
much
growth
anticipated
on
the
city
government
side
where
we
were
lacking
was
on
the
court
side
the
way
the
courts
are
set
up
and
the
way
inmates
are
brought
into
the
courtroom.
The
way
guests
coming
to
the
court
have
to
wait.
We
found
that
that
was
lacking
in
the
square
footage
for
best
practices.
C
C
The
orange
is
the
public
circulation
and
the
red
is
the
inmate
section.
You
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
what
would
be
considered
best
practices
now.
This,
of
course,
has
two
courtrooms,
but
those
two
courtrooms
would
share
inmate
holding
sales
between
those
two
right
now,
there's
one
inmate
elevator
in
the
government
center
and
there's
one
holding
cell
on
one
floor
in
the
government
center.
This
would
allow
for
inmates
to
be
in
a
holding
cell
next
to
the
courtroom,
and
the
sheriff's
office
would
have
more
control
over
the
inmates
as
they're
entering
court.
C
It
also
allows
for
circulation
of
public
space,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
orange,
if
you've
ever
been
to
a
court.
For
any
reason,
you
know
that
you're
standing
in
the
hallway
and
it's
about
six
feet
length
of
a
hallway
or
width
of
a
hallway,
and
so
this
allows
for
proper
space
for
the
public
who
are
visiting
courtrooms
or
coming
to
a
court
session.
C
They
looked
at
all
of
these
things,
as
they
evaluated
those
four
options
for
the
government
center
and
they
established
kind
of
a
red,
green,
yellow
light
system
to
evaluate
each
one
of
those
attributes
for
each
one
of
those
options
immediately,
they
eliminated
option
one
and
option
four
from
those
options
based
on
these
attributes
that
they
were
evaluating
these
options
with
they
eventually
eliminated
option.
Two
and
their
recommendation
to
us
was
and
to
the
city
council
was
option
three,
which
is
reconstruction
of
the
judicial
center
on
the
existing
site.
C
So
this
is
really
what
option
three
looked
like
was
the
judicial
center,
and
this
is
just
stacking
to
show
the
square
footage
that
we
would
be
required.
This
is
in
no
way
to
look
like
what
the
building
will
look
like.
C
C
So
those
are
things
that
they
looked
at
related
to
option
three,
and
so
they
came
down
to
option
what
we're
calling
option
3a,
which
is
a
new
judicial
center
on
the
government
site
recorder's
court,
would
remain
adjacent
to
the
jail
which
is
a
good
fit
for
the
sheriff's
office.
When
inmates
have
to
come
from
the
jail
to
their
initial
hearings,
they're
already
there
and
it's
connected
to
the
jail,
so
recorders
court
would
remain
a
new
sheriff's
administration.
C
C
So
for
the
list
of
splos
projects
I'll
go
through
these.
This
is
just
a
summary
of
those
projects
and
I
won't
read
through
these
individually
I'm
going
to
go
through
each
one.
The
first
one
would
be
the
judicial
center,
the
200
million.
The
judicial
center
would
be
approximately
thousand
square
feet
based
on
best
practices.
In
the
study
that
was
done
by
our
consultants
and
an
estimated
five
to
six
hundred
parking
space
facility.
C
C
The
next
project
would
be
parks
and
recreation,
one
of
the
things
when
we
were
doing
public
meetings
in
2019
and
even
before
that
and
after
that,
we
hear
a
lot
from
citizens
about
the
need
for
upgrades
and
improvements
to
our
parks.
So
the
next
project
is
45
million
dollars
for
parks
and
recreation.
C
These
improvements
could
include
things
like
replacement
of
the
bathrooms
new
pavilions,
the
trails
that
are
throughout
the
parks,
improvements
to
those
things.
We
also
looked
at
many
splash
pads.
If
any
of
you
have
been
downtown
on
bay,
you
see
this
flash
pad.
That's
next
to
the
playground.
It's
heavily
used
and
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
as
an
enhancement
and
an
improvement
to
those
parks,
cooper,
creek,
south
columbus,
civic
center
carver
park
in
the
liberty
district
flat
rock
park
and
lake
bottom
park
was
recreate.
C
Some
of
those
mini
splash
pads
for
kids
in
the
community
that
come
to
the
playground
come
to
the
park.
Just
having
another
amenity
at
that
park,
it
would
also
include
either
a
pool
or
a
major
splash
pad,
not
a
mini
splash
pad,
but
a
large
flash
pad
replacement
at
shirley
winston
salmon
road
park
and
rigdon
park,
and
then
there
would
be
other
park
improvements
throughout
the
city.
C
The
next
project
is
public
safety,
specifically
facility
renovations,
10
million
dollars.
This
would
be
renovation
and
upgrade
of
three
fire
stations
targeting
the
oldest
ones
in
the
fire
department,
which
is
station
four
station
six
in
station
eight
station
four
is
off
saint
mary's
road
station.
Six
is
off
brown
avenue
and
station
8
is
off
whitesville
road
and
also
renovating
the
public
safety
building.
It
was
built
in
the
early
90s,
and
so
after
this
length
of
time
it
is
due
for
some
major
improvements,
public
safety
vehicle
and
equipment,
24
million.
C
This
would
include
the
fire
department,
police
department,
sheriff's
office,
things
like
fire
trucks,
ambulances,
administrative
vehicles,
pursuit
vehicles,
target
system,
inmate
transport
vans,
a
bomb
squad,
robot
those
equipment
needed
by
our
law
enforcement
agencies
replacement
of
the
river
road
tower.
This
is
really
important
to
our
system:
pursuit
vehicles,
again,
motorcycles
command
vehicle
mobile
command
units.
C
That
is
the
9-1-1
tower
for
our
communication
system.
C
C
Bull
creek,
clubhouse
and
bridge
four
million
dollars.
This
would
replace
the
bull,
creek
clubhouse
and
replace
a
bridge.
That's
been
out
at
the
bull
creek
golf
course
for
a
number
of
years,
and
also
a
renovation
of
the
oxbow
creek
clubhouse
heavy
equipment
and
vehicles
14
million
dollars.
This
would
include
anything
from
tractors,
dump
trucks,
asphalt,
trucks,
mowers,
excavators,
compactors,
all
of
that
equipment
that
our
public
works
parks
and
rec
use
on
a
regular
basis.
C
C
C
We
have
a
bond
issue
from
2003
where
we
had
allocated
about
four
million
dollars
for
a
parking
structure
for
the
trade
center,
and
this
would
be
coupled
with
that
to
replace
their
parking
structure,
five
million
dollars
for
improvements
at
the
civic
center.
This
would
be
anything
from
the
roof
replacement,
new
scoreboards,
new
lighting,
looking
at
their
hvac
dehumidifier
system
at
the
civic
center,
and
then
I
do
want
to
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
sales
tax
currently
in
muskogee
county.
C
C
If
this
loss
were
to
pass
in
november,
it
would
not
take
effect
until
april
first
of
2022,
so
our
sales
tax
would
go
to
nine
percent
for
a
nine
month
period
of
time.
The
t
splost
ends
at
the
end
of
22,
and
the
voters
will
have
the
opportunity
to
determine
if
that
t,
splost
will
continue
to
to
have
the
sales
tax
remain
at
nine
percent
that
come
1-1
january
1
of
23
the
sales
tax.
Without
that
approval
will
go
back
to
eight
percent.
C
C
B
D
B
B
My
name
is
joe
and
I've
actually
got
a
couple
things,
but
the
main
one
it
has
to
do
with
flat
rock
park.
I
did
not
see
any
monies
allocated
to
better
that
whole
facility.
The
toilets
are
probably
haven't,
been
addressed
since
1930s.
B
B
That's
number
one
number
two,
this
new
big
building,
we're
talking
about
for
the
judicial
center
and
renovations
around.
My
former
background
did
a
lot
with
quality
assurance.
B
B
B
B
If
it
was
done
right,
I
would
like
to
see
some
of
that
other
money
for
parks
and
recreation
to
put
at
least
two
good
toilet
facilities
there.
That's
all
I
got
thank
you.
You
got
any
questions
for
me.
C
B
But
I
mean
some
of
the
things
I
noticed.
We
got
mr
john
house
here
military
contacts
to
put
that
together
and
to
save
money
for
the
city.
They
could
do
a
hand
in
glove
arrangement
with
the
base
to
accomplish
what
needs
to
be
done
there
to
really
turn
that
into
a
fantastic
park.
A
Well,
but
let
me
just
first
of
all
thank
joe
for
for
speaking
out
and
and
sharing
with
us
what
you
would
like
to
see
and-
and
you
heard
me
say
earlier-
that
you,
the
people,
the
citizens,
decide
what
you
want
on
the
list
and
joe.
I
will
tell
you
if
there
is
something
specific
I
think
you
said
amphitheater
or
something
like
that
that
you
want
on
the
list.
A
Then
you
can
tell
us
that
you
want
that
on
the
list,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
put
those
things
on
the
list
and
and
ultimately
it
will
go.
The
list
will
go
to
city
council
for
their
approval,
based
on
what
the
people
have
said.
They
want
that
would
go
on
the
ballot.
If
you
decide,
you
want
a
sales
tax
on
the
ballot.
A
Some
are
plumbers:
some
are
electricians
and
trying
to
do
things
in
house
and
if
you
decide
that
you
want
a
judiciary
center
and
we
get
a
new
building,
I
would
not
recommend
that
we
use
inmates
to
do
plumbing
and
elec
and
electrical
work
and
anything
that
needs
to
be
done.
We
need
either
a
professional
maintenance
team
or
we
need
to
contract
it
out,
and
so
to
that
question
that
you
have,
I
can
tell
you
a
city
manager.
I
would
not
support
an
inmate
touching
anything
in
the
building,
plumbing
and
all
of
that
stuff.
A
A
B
B
Absolutely
ten
years
down,
the
road
doesn't
have
to
go
through
15
books
to
find
out
what
it
needs
to
replace
here.
In
this
particular
instance,
as
was
the
case
with
our
current
wonderful
lady,
that
maintained
a
lot
of
abilities
around
our
campus.
A
So
and
I
agree
we're
in
agreement
and
the
reason
we
have
some
of
that
is
for
all
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned-
that
we
won't
have
going
forward.
Even
today,
you
can't
alter
you,
can't
remove
a
wall,
you
can't
remove
a
door
unless
you
go
through
our
engineering,
our
inspections
and
codes
and
have
have
to
have
an
architectural
seal
on
it.
We
don't
let
you
do
it,
you
know,
but
in
the
past
it
was
kind
of
loose.
A
A
C
D
C
It
would
be
400
million
and
it
would
sunset
when
the
amount
is
collected
for
the
city
or
for
consolidated
governments.
If
a
general
obligation
bond
is
issued
in
conjunction
with
the
splost,
it
will
be
collected
until
that
amount
is
collected,
we're
estimating
that
will
be
approximately
10
years,
but
based
on
our
current
collection
rate,
it
will
probably
be
a
little
less
than
that.
D
C
D
Okay,
now,
of
course,
the
judiciary
I
do
ever
since
porter
chef
was
on
city
council,
we've
been
meeting
another
one
of
those
another
trade
dog,
the
government
ever
since
then.
Now
when
we
collected
that
1999
spouse,
that
probably
we
thought
was
going
in
2005,
a
child
continued
to
collect
for
14
years.
C
C
D
Oh
okay,
because
public
safety,
34
million-
why
are
we
even
doing
anything
for
public
safety
when
we
gave
them
a
2008
loss,
public
safety,
70
percent
in
infrastructure,
30?
And
a
lot
of
this
is
in
that
the
roads
and
sidewalks
that's
infrastructure.
24
million
you've
been
we've
been
collecting
that
ever
since
2009
the
trade
center
cities-
and
I
see
but
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
redundant.
D
We
already
doing
the
tax
on
that
and
you
need-
and
we
need
to
if
that
2008
loss
we
got
about
2400
streets
in
cologne
might
be
a
little
bit
more
than
that.
I'm
taking
pictures
of
all
that.
We
need
to
satisfy
that.
You
got
potholes
everywhere,
you're,
not
really
doing
that
loss
right,
you're,
not
treating
that
we're
not
getting
what
we
paid
for
in
that
loss
and
public
safety
with
crime
prevention,
and
all
of
that
we
gave
a
million
dollars
for
crime
prevention
and
the
crime
is
going
up.
D
So
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
and
satisfy
all
of
that
and
before
we
start
they
have
equipment
in
vehicles,
14
million.
Okay,
with
the
t-splash.
You
got
discretionary
income
discretionary,
so
you
can
buy
your
deal
because
I
can't
talk
through
this
math,
but
when
I
call
to
find
out
if
the
trashman
coming
it's
because
they're
running
behind
they
don't
have
the
equipment
and
stuff
like
that.
So
that
brings
concern
to
me
yeah.
D
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
This
list
that
deputy
city
manager
hodge
has
presented
and
shared
with
you
tonight
was
a
list
composed
from
2019
by
the
people,
and
so,
if
you
want
something
on
the
list,
you
know
that's.
Why
we're
here
to
listen
to
you
and
if
you
don't
like
something
that's
on
the
list,
then,
because
someone
else
put
it
on
we'll
carry
it
forward
and
then
our
city
council
will
decide
the
final
list
and
the
priority.
A
Every
promise
that
we
made
in
previous
special
purpose
local
option
sales
taxes,
every
promise
made
was
kept
and
we
have
records
to
verify
it,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
any
statements
that
are
made
that
promises
made
have
been
killed
and
if
we
make
another
promise,
if
the
elected
officials
do,
I
know
that
they
keep
their
promises
joe.
You
got
something
else
and
I
want
to
wreck
the
mayor
has
come
in.
I
told
you
I
figured
he
would
come
in
here.
C
B
Equipment
good.
I
strongly
urge
that
when
you
for
everyone,
that's
taken
out
of
the
government
building
that
that
unit
be
given
to
like
the
senior
centers
I
go
to
the
gallup
center
just
about
every
other
day
and
the
computers
there
for
the
people
not
for
the
staff,
but
for
the
people
are
like
vintage
1995..
B
C
We
do
have
one
question:
that's
come
in
from
someone
viewing
at
home.
Will
any
of
the
existing
recreation
centers
be
replaced?
I
think
the
last
splost
built
some
of
the
newest
recreation
center,
which
was
20
years
ago.
This
splash
right
now
is
looking
at
improvements
to
the
parks,
not
necessarily
replacement
of
the
recreation
centers.
But
that's
definitely
something
that
will
add
to
the
list,
for
consideration
is
replacement
of
those
recreation
centers
because
they
were
built
with
the
1999
splost,
and
so
they
have
most
of
them
are
about
20
years
old.
C
C
C
C
D
E
E
The
thing
about
splosts
is
you
have
to
vote
them
in
that's
another
level
of
representation
that
we
are
giving
to
that?
No
we're
not
giving
it
to
you.
This
government
does
not
give
you
the
power.
You
have
the
power
you
give
it
to
us,
and
so
we're
just
asking
you
to
not
give
your
power
away,
use
your
power
for
the
good.
I
think
we
have
some
really
good
projects
on
this
list.
E
That
is
adding
new,
and
I
am
a
strong
believer
in
if
we
can't
take
care
of
what
we
have
now,
let's
not
add
anything
else
until
we
have
until
we
can
take
care
of
everything,
but
that
isn't
necessarily
my
decision.
That
will
be
yours.
If
you
guys
believe
that
we
can
expand
and
take
care
of
it,
then
we
want
to
hear
that
from
you.
So
I
appreciate
the
people
that
have
come
here
tonight.
I
look
forward
to
some
other
successful
meetings
and
thank
you.
A
So
any
final
questions
from
the
audience.
We
have
no
more
questions
so
far
again
we're
having
these
meetings,
the
one
tonight
there's
one
thursday
5
30
to
7
and
one
next
monday,
the
21st
from
5
30
to
7
right
here
in
the
city
council
chambers
this
thursday
next
monday
and
we're
televising,
live
we're
allowing
those
people
who
don't
want
to
come
out
for
whatever
reason
they
can
email,
they
can
send
their
questions.
They
can
send
their
wish
list
of
things
to
that.
They
want
to
see
in
a
special
purpose:
local
option,
sales
tax.
A
F
Be
very
brief.
I
just
want
to
add
my
thanks
to
the
citizens
of
showing
up
and
reiterate
what
you've
already
heard.
That
is.
This
splost
is
about
you
guys.
This
list
was
not
compiled
by
anybody
in
the
government
other
than
that
judicial
center
that
there
was
no
seated
recommendations.
This
has
all
been
developed
by
people
through
a
series
of
meetings,
and
the
great
thing
is,
I
think,
about
having
an
opportunity
to
let
it
kind
of
simmer
for
a
year
is
now
we
can
go
back
out
to
people.
We
can
say
all
right.
F
This
is
what
you
thought
two
years
ago.
Tell
me
what
you
think
now,
so,
let's
kind
of
work
through
this
list
and
that's
going
to
be
a
critical
part
of
it.
I
I
thank
you
for
participating
in
it,
joe
nadine
and
the
rest
of
you
that
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions,
and
I
will
remind
you
that
you
can
call
pam
up
to
midnight
after
midnight.
You
call
city
manager.
F
D
C
So
we
will
keep
the
the
phone
line
as
well
as
the
the
online
questions
open,
but
we
will
call
this
a
public
meeting
to
a
close.
We
will
keep
those
phone
lines
open
until
seven
and
we'll
respond
to
any
questions
through
the
online
application.
If
you
give
us
your
email
address,
we'll
we'll
send
you
a
response,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
this
evening.
We
appreciate
it.