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From YouTube: FY22 Budget Review Briefing 05 11 2021
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A
A
Give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
information
about
how
we
do
what
we're
doing
here.
First
of
all,
my
name
is
judy
thomas
and
I'm
the
budget
chair
for
the
council.
Councillor
john
house
is
the
vice
chair
and
between
the
two
of
us.
Perhaps
we
can
get
through
this
and
this
new,
the
new
budget,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
for
low
these
many
years
is
when
the
mayor
has
proposed
a
budget
to
us.
A
That
is,
if
a
department
chair
wishes
to
add
something
to
their
budget
and
a
counselor
agrees
that
it
should
be
added.
We
can
add
that
now
we
have
always-
and
we
will
continue
to
say
to
whoever
comes
before
us.
If
you
want
to
add
something
to
your
budget,
we
need
a
source
and
we,
if
it
is
an
ongoing
addition,
an
ongoing
expense,
for
example,
a
salary.
A
B
Wisdom
to
the
city
manager,
but
no.
C
B
Don't
really
have
anything
to
say
other
than
just
appreciate
the
work
of
the
council
as
they
work
their
way
through
the
budget
process,
and
I'm
here
really
to
lend
any
information.
From
a
backdrop
standpoint,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
about
how
something
was
considered
I'll,
do
my
best
to
answer
it,
probably
by
saying
miss
alexander,
but
but
we
will
we'll
try
to
add
any
anecdotal
information
that
we
can.
A
D
A
Then
I'm
going
to
turn
the
podium
over
to
miss
alexander,
who
is
our
finance
director
and
she
will
help
to
get
us
through
the
next
hour
or
so.
Mr
alexander,.
E
E
Next
time
we
meet
will
be
may
25th.
This
is
prior
to
the
regular
council
meeting.
This
meeting
starts
at
2
p.m,
and
the
only
item
up
for
discussion
on
that
day
is
the
ad
delete
list
which,
as
the
budget
chair
mentioned,
any
items
that
have
been
added
to
that
list
by
any
member
of
council
council
will
vote
on
that
list
on
that
date.
E
The
next
meeting
is
a
public
hearing.
It's
not
it's
for
the
public,
so
if
any
department,
director
or
council
member
wants
to
come,
you
can
most
certainly
do
that.
But
this
hearing
is
for
the
public.
It
is
our
first
taxpayer
bill
of
rights.
Hearing
that
first
meeting
or
hearing
will
be
june
8th
at
9
00
a.m,
and
it
will
be
here
at
the
trade
center.
E
E
The
next
meeting
will
be
june,
15th
in
which
we'll
have
our
third
taxpayer
bill
of
rights
hearing
that
is
a
9
a.m.
Meeting
that
will
also
be
held
here
at
the
trade
center,
we'll
have
our
second
reading
of
the
operating
budget
ordinance
as
well
as
the
first
reading
of
the
millage
ordinance,
and
the
last
meeting
for
the
month
of
june
will
be
june
22nd.
E
That
is
also
a
9
a.m.
Meeting
it
is
a
regular
council
meeting
in
which
council
will
adopt
the
the
second
reading
of
the
millage
ordinance.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
this
out
the
schedule
madam
budget
chair
in
terms
of
who's
on
first
today.
The
first
department
that
we
have
here
to
present
is
our
parks
and
rec
parks
and
recreation
department,
followed
by
our
internal
auditor.
E
Then
our
probate
court
judge
is
here.
Our
public
works
director
will
be
followed
by
the
finance
presentation
and
we
do
have
some
representatives
here
from
the
corner
coroner's
office.
I
was
notified
very
late
notice
that
the
coroner
himself
will
not
be
here,
but
representatives
from
his
office
should
be
here
as
well
as
the
department
of
elections
and
registration.
A
F
Mr
mayor,
mr
city
manager,
members
of
council,
if
I
could
have
my
presentation
put
on
the
screen,
please
thank
you.
I
come
before
you
today
to
ask,
of
course,
as
has
been
stated
for
additional
funding
for
parks
and
recreation
going
forward
just
looking
forward.
I
guess
I
should
say
I
want
to
give
you
a
few
facts
going
forward
about
what
our
department
does
currently
more
so
for
obviously
our
community
and
also
for
those
watching
from
home
facts
about
our
department.
F
We
currently
manage
over
1900
acres
of
park
space,
there's
52
parks,
50,
linear
miles
of
trail
space,
44,
public
playgrounds
over
80,
athletic
fields,
81
tennis
courts,
19,
basketball,
courts,
82
restrooms
on
a
daily
basis.
We
maintain
750,
liter
containers
of
trash
or
litter
containers
of
trash.
We
operate
the
lake
gala,
marina,
a
dog
park,
the
ma,
rainey
museum,
two
before
school
programs,
twelve
after
school
programs,
eight
recreation,
centers
and
four
senior
centers.
F
We
also
have
the
britt
david
cultural
arts
facility
and
the
haygood
boxing
facility,
as
well
as
a
therapeutic
recreation
facility,
as
well
as
the
columbus
aquatic
center
and,
of
course,
our
outdoor
pools.
I
just
wanted
to
make
mention
so
that
our
community
and
those
watching
from
home
would
know
what
it
is
that
we
operate
annually.
F
F
It
cuts
down
on
the
number
of
programs
that
we
can
offer
it
cuts
down
on
how
quickly
we
can
respond
to
citizen
concerns,
citizen
requests
in
our
parks
for
our
facilities
for
our
seniors,
for
those
with
special
needs
for
those
in
arts.
All
of
that
goes
to
show
what
we
can
and
we
cannot
do
on
a
daily
basis.
F
Now
to
go
back
a
little
bit.
I
wanted
to
show
you
what
our
operating
budget
has
been
like
over
the
last
few
years
and
actually
more
than
a
few
years,
so
I
went
through,
and
we've
listed
what
our
operating
budget
has
been
for
the
last
17
years.
It
also
shows
you
the
capital
budget
that
had
been
approved
by
council
with
each
of
our
operating
budgets
and
then
on
the
third
line.
You'll
see
what
was
the
capital
funding
that
we
were
actually
expended
in
that
year
and
what
does
that
mean?
F
The
actual
capital
funds
that
were
spent
means
that
at
some
point
we
were
able
to
come
back
to
council
and
we
were
asked
to
be
able
to
use
our
budget
savings,
which
was
authorized
by
city
manager
and
city
council.
We've
always
prided
ourselves
as
a
department
that
has
been
very
conservative.
We've
been
a
department
that
has
been
a
good
steward
of
city
funding
and
operated
our
department
very
well
and,
as
a
result,
many
times
we've
been
able
to
come
back.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
idea
and
show
you
over
time
what
that
snapshot
would
look
like
and
how
much
funding
we've
seen
at
least
over
the
last
17
years
and
you'll
notice.
A
lot
of
zeros,
sometimes
and
then
you'll
see
that
in
many
ways
that
there's
a
zero
but
then
below
it,
you'll
see
that
there's
actually
a
dollar
figure.
So
I
think
that
speaks
highly
of
our
department
and
what
good
stewards
we've
been
to
be
able
to
come
back
and
be
able
to
get
funding
that
could
help
ourselves
going
forward.
F
That's
what
recreation
services
constitutes
so
in
recreation
services,
we're
asking
for
two
digital
pottery
kilns
at
a
cost
of
ten
thousand
dollars
each
for
a
total
cost
of
twenty
thousand.
Why
is
that
important?
Because
the
kilns
that
you
see
on
the
list
today,
anytime,
we
bring
anyone
in
to
to
work
on
them.
There's
no
one
locally.
We
must
bring
in
a
vendor
from
out
of
town,
and
typically
it
runs
us
about
four
thousand
dollars.
Every
time
we
bring
them
in
to
work
on.
F
Our
kilns
are
old,
they're
out
of
date,
they're
hard
to
be
serviced,
and
so
it
just
doesn't
make
good
cost-effective
sense
anymore
to
spend
four
thousand
dollars
each
time
they
have
to
be
serviced
so
we're
asking
to
get
those
updated.
Also
when
it
comes
to
the
digital
pottery
kilns,
they
no
longer
operate
efficiently,
and
so
now
we
have
to
have
a
staff
person
sit
there
with
them
every
two
hours
to
turn
them
up.
F
Where
normally
you
should
be
able
to
just
turn
them
set
them
and
let
them
operate
and
run
the
cycle
that
they
operate.
That
is
that's
manpower,
that's
ours,
that
we
have
to
devote
to
a
staff
person
doing
that.
So
now
we
can't
be
flexible
with
the
limited
staff
hours
that
we
have.
We
have
to
have
them
to
sit
there
and
make
sure
that
they
schedule
their
time
and
they
fire
the
kilns
when
they
can
be
there
to
operate
those
school
boards
school
boards
and
recreation
section.
F
F
We
desperately
need
scoreboards
in
our
rec
center
so
that
the
kids
can
play
basketball,
so
our
adults
can
play
basketball
and
so
that
we
can
use
them
not
only
for
basketball
for
volleyball
and
other
sports,
so
we're
asking
to
replace
the
school
boards
and
the
eight
rec
centers
because,
like
I
said,
they're
all
original
school
boards
in
those
rec
centers
and
desperately
need
to
be
replaced.
Again.
I
moved
down
to
pottery
kilns
in
our
senior
section.
F
Those
need
to
be
replaced
same
reason
as
the
digital
ones,
they're
old
they're,
falling
apart
and
every
time
we
have
to
have
them
repaired.
It's
almost
half
the
cost
of
purchasing
a
new
one
and
then
the
last
thing
I
ask
for
in
recreation
is
a
vehicle.
You
guys
have
heard
me
in
the
past.
I've
come
before
and
asked
for
vehicles
because
we're
a
department
that
needed
vehicles
desperately
the
vehicle
that
we
would
replace
in
the
recreation
services
division
is
a
1998
23
year
old,
ford
crown
victoria
as
114
633
miles
on
it.
F
The
city's
policy
is
12
years
or
120
and
also
120
000
miles.
So
yes,
it's
23
years
old.
So
we
meet
the
criteria
for
the
12-year
mark,
but
we
don't
quite
meet
the
criteria
for
the
120
000
more,
but
it's
23
years
old.
So,
as
you
can
imagine
it's
costly
to
upkeep,
we
continue
to
have
issues
with
it.
I
shared
with
one
council
member
a
few
weeks
ago.
We
got
the
vehicle
out
of
the
shop.
We
we
had
it
at
the
office,
they
drove,
they
drove
it
to
complete
a
task
they
cut.
F
It
off
went
to
get
back
in
it.
It
wouldn't
crank.
It
literally
had
just
gotten
out
of
the
shop
and
shouldn't
have
had
any
issues.
They
go
to
drive
it
again.
It
cuts
off,
won't
crank
back
up,
I
mean,
and
it's
a
constant
battle
with
this
vehicle.
We
spent
more
time
that
day
and
staff
hours
than
than
we
should
have,
but
the
vehicle
is
23
years
old,
but
that's
a
constant
in
our
department.
That's
a
commonality
in
our
department
that
our
vehicles
are
aged.
F
Moving
forward,
I
know,
as
budget
chair
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
always
want
to
have
ongoing
funding
when
we're
asking
for
positions,
and
unfortunately
I
can't
come
to
you
today
and
I
can't
say
that
we
have
ongoing
funding
for
our
positions,
but
I
would
hope
that
you
would
re
that
you
would
reconsider
in
this
position.
We
would
like
to
reopen
tillis
gym.
Tillis
gym
is
in
the
midtown
area.
You
can
see
here
what
it
would
take
as
far
as
what
we're
asking
we're
asking
for
one
full-time
staff
person
and
three
part-time
to
operate
the
facility.
F
F
Most
of
our
facilities
are
very
lucky
today
if
they
have
one
full-time
and
four
part-time,
so
you
can
see
the
huge
cut
that
our
department
has
taken
over
the
years,
but
this
is
what
we
would
ask
as
far
as
reopening
and
operating,
and
I
say
that
because
in
the
last
two
years
we've
worked
with
cdbg
to
completely
renovate
the
tillis
gym
for
that
neighborhood
in
that
community.
There
is
no
recreation
center
any
longer
in
the
midtown
area.
The
closest
facility
is
flue,
ellen
and
boxwood
over
by
carver
high
school.
F
F
We
also
put
in
a
brand
new
playground
off
the
tune
of
a
little
over
740
000,
so
I
would
like
to
see
us
be
able
to
take
up
the
investment
that
we
put
in
the
facility
and
make
it
worthwhile
for
the
community
not
only
just
as
a
summer
facility,
which
is
how
we
will
use
it
this
summer
as
a
summer
camp
for
kids
in
the
community,
but
year-round
for
that
neighborhood,
so
that
people
can
benefit
from
that
facility.
So
that
is
our
big
ass
there,
obviously
and
and
no
miss
budget
chair.
F
I
apologize
that
we
for
this
time.
We
cannot
make
it
an
ongoing
funding
most
years
and
every
year
we've
come
forward
previously,
at
least
since
I've
been
the
director
we've
been
able
to
make
it
budget
neutral,
but
unfortunately
we
have
cut
every
position,
unfunded
everything
we
could
over
the
years
that
we
no
longer
have
anything
left
to
to
really
unfund
in
that
way,
but
that
goes
to
that
would
be
tillis.
The
reopening
of
tillis
jim.
A
A
A
G
Now
wait
both
her.
G
H
A
A
Well,
typically,
what
we
would
we
would
ask
you
to
do
is
to
tell
us,
where
you're
going
to
be
getting
that
that
funding,
because
we
don't
have
that
kind
of
well
before
city.
G
D
G
D
Obviously
you
know
we
don't
recommend
adding
ongoing
operating
expenses
like
expenses
like
those
positions
that
have
been
mentioned,
but-
and
I
I've
asked
the
finance
director
to
look
at
their
current
budget-
the
21
budget
that
we're
in
right
now
that
ends
june
30th
this
year
to
see
if
they've
got
some
capacity
to
purchase
some
of
these
things
and
not
exceed
the
current
budget.
Here
in
21
that
ends
june
30th
and
and
they
do
and
so
madame
budgets
here
what
I
would
recommend
and
I've
consulted.
D
We
could
bring
you
those
things
to
purchase
out
of
the
current
budget
and
then
it
would
not
impact
this
budget
and
it
would
be
the
current
budget,
that's
scheduled
to
end
june
30th
of
this
year,
but
we
would
not
and
do
not
recommend
those
ongoing
expenses
like
personnel
and
other
operating
expenses,
but
we
could
help
with
that
car
the
capital
stuff.
If
that
slide,
if
you
would
put
that
slide
back
up,
and
so
that's
what
we
would
recommend.
D
D
Yeah
revenue
recovery
is
an
allowable
expense
and-
and
that
is
a
one-time-
you
know
return,
but
but
I
think
what
I
just
shared
with
you
is
a
way
to
get
those
things,
but
not
those
ongoing
operating
expenses.
D
Keep
asking
for
that
slide
to
go
back
up,
and
I
don't
see
it.
You
know
yeah
and
but
so
those
would
be
one
time
go
back.
One
go
back
one
more
right
there,
so
the
digital,
pottery,
cam,
chemical
scoreboards,
electric
pot,
pottery
kilns
and
the
mid-side
suv
would
be
one-time
expenses
that
we
could
look
at
the
current
budget
and
bring
them
back
to
you
on
the
next
council
agenda
or
sometime
first
of
june,
and
you
get
those
approved
and
they're
done
and
you're
not
dealing
with
the
22
budget.
Trying
to
put
the.
D
A
I
I
D
I
Okay,
could
we
look
at
the
these
extra
employees
like
at
mid-year
or
sometime
later
in
the
year.
I
Could
could
we
look
at
that?
I'm
asked
director
or
mayor
mia.
A
That
is,
council
crime.
J
I
was,
I
was
getting
ahead
of
myself
a
little
bit.
I
was
looking
through
her
her
presentation
and
I
was
just
gonna
see
if
we
have
the
funds
for
all
of
the
capital
that
she's
that
she's
asking
for
how
much
of
it
can
we
take
out
of
her
current
budget.
D
D
So
I
know
we're
getting
ahead
of
her,
but
I
would
say
to
you:
listen
to
the
rest
of
our
presentation,
but
then
allow
us
if
you
will
allow
us
to
bring
you
back
up
to
200
000,
which
could
be
mores
and
but
in
other
words
we
could
say
to
her.
Here's
300
000,
you
tell
us
your
priorities,
okay,
right
and
that
we
take
all
of
this
away.
A
Then,
let's
put
on
the
ad
delete
list,
miss
alexander.
A
Non-Reoccurring
expenses
parks
and
rec
300
000.,
and
then
you
can
come
back
to
us
and
say
what
we're
going
to
buy
is
the
suv
the
you
know.
That
kind
of
thing.
D
B
Brown-
just
all
I
wanted
to
say
in
in
relation
to
what
councilor,
woodson
and
council
tucker
were
asking
city
manager,
has
made
it
clear
that
one
of
our
priorities
is
where
we
can
in
some
of
our
targeted
or
troubled
areas
with
regards
to
violence
and
and
some
of
those
things
we
we
do
want
to
be
more
aggressive
with
opening
neighborhood
rec
center.
So
with
the
funding
the
the
capital
that's
already
been
expended
in
telus,
it
makes
sense
that
that
would
be
one
of
the
priorities.
B
So
I
say
that
to
say
this:
we
will
continue
to
look
for
ways
and
we'll
be
monitoring
the
revenues
as
they
come
in,
because
ms
alexander
has
been
very
conservative
in
estimating
revenues,
even
though
we've
been
a
little
aggressive
in
some
of
the
one-time
expenditures.
So
we
will
be
keeping
an
eye
on
that
because
that's
a
priority.
F
Okay,
so
moving
ahead.
So
the
next
item
that
we
had
on
our
list
was
a
vehicle
for
our
athletic
division.
Athletics,
of
course,
handles
all
of
our
athletics
for
the
city,
and
you
may
find
it
interesting
to
know
we
do
not
have
a
vehicle
for
our
athletics
division.
F
Their
vehicle
was
salvaged
many
many
years
ago,
and
they
have
never
received
a
vehicle
back
in
place
of
it,
so
they
do
not
have
a
vehicle.
So
of
course
we
were
asking
for
vehicles
so
that
they
would
have
one
to
do
their
daily
responsibilities,
and
so
that
was
the
ask
here
for
the
vehicle
for
their
division,
as
they
do
not
have
one,
and
so
it
would
help
them
as
far
as
transporting
items
to
south
commons
for
sporting
events
and
activities
that
they
host
at
south
commons
and
memorial
stadium
on
a
weekly
basis.
F
Next,
I
move
ahead
to
lake
oliver
marina
again.
Unfortunately,
this
is
another
area
that
does
not
have
an
ongoing
funding
match
when
lake
oliver
marina
was
renovated
and
remodeled
in
2009
and
the
city
took
it
over
and
parks
and
recreation
began
running
it.
We
were
told
then
that
we
would
start
out
there
and
it
would
be
reevaluated
well
we're
12
years
later,
it's
never
been
reevaluated,
and
so
we
are
in
desperate
need
of
staff.
F
It
has
operated
with
one
full-time
staff,
member
and
three
part-time
staff.
We
operate
84
hours
a
week
so
with
the
current
staffing
load
that
we
have,
we
only
have
enough
hours
for
127
hours
and
you
may
say:
well
that's
more
than
84.
Yes,
it
is
more
than
84.,
but
typically
you
want
to
have
two
employees
there,
because
we
not
only
cook
but
we
sell
bait.
We
run
the
cash
register
and
we're
doing
multiple
things,
and
so
we
don't
necessarily
want
our
cook
to
go
over
there
and
handle
worms
and
bait
and
things
of
that
nature.
F
Neither
would
you,
if
you're
the
person
ordering
the
hamburger,
and
so
we
typically
always
like
to
have
two
staff
members.
There,
and
so
if
you
do
the
math
2
times,
84
is
168
hours,
so
you
can
see
we
are
quite
short
by
about
41
hours
from
having
enough
staff
to
always
have
two
people
there.
So
we
were
asking
to
add
two
part-time
positions.
Would
we
love
to
have
another
full-time?
Yes,
we
would
love
to
have
another
full-time
person,
because,
typically
right
now,
anytime,
anyone
is
out.
F
We
have
to
find
someone
from
another
division
to
go
down
and
help
operate,
the
marina,
which
is
a
hardship
on
every
division
in
our
department,
in
particular
admin,
because
there's
not
many
people
who
can
run
the
point
of
sale
system
and
have
have
the
ability
to
do
revenue,
cash
handling,
and
so
typically
the
person
comes
from
my
office
and
it's
an
executive
staff
person
that
has
to
go
there.
So
it
is
a
hardship
on
us
every
time
someone
is
out
no
offense
to
them,
because
sometimes
people
get
sick.
F
Sometimes
they
go
on
vacation
things
happen,
but
it
does
make
it
very
difficult
for
us
to
operate
that
facility
on
a
weekly
daily
basis,
knowing
that
we
don't
have
enough
hours
to
cover
to
have
two
people
there
and
again
we
would
love
to
have
that
other
full-time
person,
but
we
know
it's
a
lot
less
expensive
for
us
to
have
two
part-time.
Thus,
that's
why
we
ask
for
the
two
part-time
positions
there,
keeping
with
the
same
minimal
grade
that
we
have
that's
what
everyone
else
is
that's
part-time.
F
So
that's
why
we
asked
for
two
part-time
positions.
In
addition
to
that,
we
had
also
asked
for
cameras
to
be
put
in
and
upgraded
at
lake
oliver.
That
was
also
done
in
addition
to
a
request
by
councillor
davis,
who
we
had
recently
had
conversation
about,
and
he
asked
me
to
add
it
as
part
of
our
budget.
So
that's
the
cost
for
us
to
add
in
additional
cameras
for
security
there
at
lake
oliver,
and
also
we
were
asking
for
dock
bumpers.
You
can
see
the
picture
below
of
the
docks
there
at
lake
oliver.
F
The
dock
bumpers
would
be
those
portions
that
come
down
on
the
long
post
there,
which
allows
the
boats
to
pull
up
and
not
get
scratched
or
torn
on
the
side
of
their
boats.
Many
times
we
get
complaints
from
citizens,
because
ours
are
worn
out
and
need
to
be
replaced
in
some
regards,
or
at
least
that's
the
complaint
we
receive.
So
we
were
asking
to
have
those
doc
bumpers
replaced
with
new
ones,
and
so
those
are
the
two
requests
that
we
had
in
addition
to
additional
help
at
lake
oliver
marina.
F
And
our
big
request
is
always,
of
course,
you
know,
park
services
we
never
have
enough
equipment.
Our
equipment
is
aged
in
years
past
we've
only
asked
for
lawn
mowers
because
we
desperately
need
them
and
vehicles
which
we
always
are
in
dire
need
of.
You
can
see
here,
though,
this
is
our
comprehensive
list
which
actually
has
been
part
of
our
budget
request
for
many
many
years,
but
we
have
failed
to
bring
it
to
you,
because
we
needed
certain
things
more
like
vehicles,
but
we're
reaching
the
point
where
our
our
equipment
is
aged.
F
I
mean
just
being
very
very
honest
with
you,
each
and
factual
that
our
tractors
are
aged.
Our
utility
carts,
that
we
use
in
the
parks
to
haul
equipment
and
to
haul
supplies
with
are
aged
or
broken
down
or
they're
non-existent
anymore,
and
so
it
takes
us
twice
as
long,
if
not
three
times
as
long
to
try
to
do
the
work
and
in
some
regards
we
can't
get
a
truck
in
certain
places
that
we
can
get
a
utility
cart
mowers.
We
need
specific
types
of
mowers,
of
course,
to
cut
certain
fields
in
certain
areas.
F
Trailers,
our
trailers
are,
are
worn
out
and
falling
apart,
so
we
need
those
flatbed
dump
trucks
where
we
can
dump
when
we
go
and
pick
up
limbs
and
debris
that
fall
after
storms.
Many
of
you,
email
me
about
storms
and
people
complain
about
limbs
and
debris.
These
are
the
trucks
that
go
and
pick
up
those
those
items
and
the
other
part
to
that
is
a
grab.
All
truck
you'd
be
interested
to
know.
Our
apartment
does
not
own
a
truck
to
be
able
to
pick
up
the
trees
that
get
cut
by
forestry.
F
So
when
they're
cut,
we
actually
have
to
go
in
and
cut
every
single
tree
down
into
a
person-sized,
manageable
piece
that
we
can
pick
up,
because
we
don't
own
the
equipment
as
a
department
to
do
so.
This
would
help
us
to
be
able
to
pick
up
some
of
those
items
a
little
faster,
those
trees
that
fall
down
in
the
parks
on
a
regular
basis
or
that
forestry
has
to
come
in
and
cut
because
they're
a
liability.
F
This
would
allow
us
to
be
able
to
pick
up
some
of
those
items
with
this
equipment,
because
our
department
just
doesn't
own
it.
We
don't
have
it
so
we're
not
able
to
do
it
and
it
takes
us,
like,
I
said
twice,
if
not
four
times
as
long
to
do
it,
because
it
all
has
to
be
cut
down
into
manageable
pieces.
So
our
employees
can
do
the
work
and
then,
of
course,
ball
fill
groomers,
which
are
equipment
that
is
used
for
managing
our
ballparks
and
steiner.
F
Mowers
are
specific
mowers
that
are
used
to
manage
our
our
fields
as
well.
So
these
are
our
pieces
of
equipment
that,
for
many
reasons,
we've
not
asked
for
in
a
very
long
time,
but
ours
are
just
worn
out
and
but
they're
necessary,
necessary
components
to
maintaining
our
youth
fields
here
in
columbus
from
woodruff
park,
where
we
have
so
many
young
players
who
play
soccer
to
our.
F
F
Many
people
ask
about
our
pools
and
having
our
pools
reopen
and,
as
you
know,
and
I
made
a
presentation
a
month
or
so
ago
about
our
pools
and
the
need
there
with
our
pools,
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
either
use
funding
through
splost
or
put
that
on
our
list
in
the
future
for
splash
versus
ask
for
it
today.
But
I
did
want
to
at
least
mention
it
so
that
that
people
would
know
that
we
do
intend
and
do
are
concerned
and
see
the
need
for
it.
F
J
Thank
you:
can
these?
Can
these
tractors
and
all
of
these
for
park
services?
Could
those
also
be
part
of
the
splost
I'm
trying
to
look
for
ways
of
getting
this?
I
was
thinking
splost,
but
I
was
also
wondering
how
what's
the
relationship
between
parks
and
recreation
who
maintains
the
field
and
then
the
sports
council
that
gets
the
events
there
wondering
if
funding
can
come
from
another
source
because
they
bring
in
they
bring
in,
do
they
have
to
pay
to
do
the
organizations
have
to
pay
to
play
at
one
of
our
fields.
D
D
And
so,
and
so
that
thirty
five
thousand
may
bring
1.4
1.52
million
dollars
in
economic
impact.
You
know
if
they
come
here
and
let's
play
a
week
and
their
brain
mom
and
pop
and
their
grandparents
and
all
they
stay
in
the
hotels
and
eat
in
the
restaurants
and
buy
our
fuel,
and
you
know,
there's
a
return
on
that
investment,
but
they
have
to
buy
that
they're
competing
with
other
communities
who
are
willing
to
put
50
000
on
the
table.
D
D
Well,
we
we
typically
would
not
use
splost
for
this
kind
of
equipment.
You
know
we
years
ago
we
were
able,
because,
typically
you
know
we're
going
to
do
bonds
and
go
through
the
development
thought.
I
don't
want
to
explain
a
hopeful
that,
but
but
it
has
to
be
something
with
collateral,
a
building
yeah
and
so.
But
but
you
know
some
things
through
the
gma
lease
and
other
means
we're
able
to
get
the
equipment.
We
need,
whether
they
be
garbage
trucks,
police,
cars
or
whatever.
D
You
know
so
so
we
but
not
splost,
but
and
not
through
sports
council
hotel,
motel
attacks
or
people
coming
in,
but
it'll
be
through
some
lease
pool
or
straight
out,
purchase.
D
What
well,
if
she
would
put
back
up
what
you're
so
that
we
can
see
the
list
and
and
because
you
know
what
I
said
earlier-
is
that
as
you
I
know
you
heard
me,
but
the
300
000
would
allow
her
would
say
to
her
here's
300
000,
you
select
all
the
items
from
either
of
the
lists
that
you
shared
up
to
the
300
000
and
they
could
be
tractors
or
whatever
mowers
and
and
then
we
would
bring
them.
J
A
Mr
city
manager,
I
would
assume
that
from
what
you
said
earlier,
anything
in
her
presentation
that
is
equipment
could
be
considered.
D
E
I
just
need
to
make
it
I'm
just
making
sure
that
I
have
the
list
correct
and
council
woodson.
Your
referral
was
to
look
at
mid-year,
okay
and
nothing
from
you.
Counselor
crap.
A
A
E
Alexander
right
and
thank
you,
madam
budget,
chair
for
being
the
keeper
of
the
time
you
know
has
instructed
these
department
and
elected
officials
were
advised
to
keep
the
presentations
brief.
Next
we
have
the
internal
auditor,
mr
john
redman,.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
councillor,
madame
budget
chair
today,
I'm
here
to
make
a
request
for
an
additional
position
for
the
internal
audit
department.
Another
forensic
auditor.
Our
workload,
has
continued
to
increase.
We're
currently
got
a
little
over
three
years
of
audits
on
schedule.
We
added
another
one
this
morning
for
the
request
from
the
probate
court.
C
We
need
more
help
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
to
them
faster
and
currently,
we've
got
several
very
large
departments
that
we're
auditing
and
those
take
quite
a
bit
of
time.
For
example,
the
police
department
has
budgeted
for
12
months.
The
fire
ems
is
for
nine
months
and
the
sheriff
is
for
six
months.
Okay,.
C
Okay,
so
that's
a
total
of
three
people
that
would
be
in
our
budget.
It's
an
increase
of
about
ninety
one
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
includes
the
salary
and
benefits
that
are
budgeted
by
the
human
resources
and
the
finance
department
in
their
budgeting
process,
and
also
the
continuing
education
and
maintaining
licenses
for
these
certified
personnel.
C
C
We've
also
faced
with
this
year
of
having
to
do
audits
on
a
number
of
elected
officials,
positions
that
changed
out
the
district
attorney,
the
sheriff
and
others,
and
these
things
they
take
time
to
do
and
they
haven't
been
done
in
a
while
and
they
need
to
be
done
now.
I
know
we
always
look
for
funding
sources.
C
You
know,
as
I
said,
we've
got
over
three
years
of
auto
activity
pending.
We've
got
additional
audits
that
are
being
intermittently
requested
and
we
need
to
increase
the
availability
of
our
audit
staff
to
perform
needed
audits,
and
the
additional
staff
would
provide
more
flexible
time
staffing
to
address
time-sensitive
projects.
C
In
doing
that,
we
were
really
not
sure
what
we
might
find,
but
there
was
some
good
news
that
came
out
of
this.
It
really
kind
of
flipped
around
as
we
went
through
it
and
restruck
the
balance
sheet,
because,
with
the
assistance
of
the
city
attorney's
office
and
some
external
attorneys,
we
were
able
to
determine
that
there
was
statute
of
limitations
on
some
of
the
liabilities
that
they
had
recorded
on
their
books
and
that
some
of
those
would
and
also
there
were
some
for
which
claims
were
not
receded
properly
and
couldn't
be
proven.
C
So
what
that
resulted
in
was
us
being
able
to
identify
monies
that
needed
to
come
to
the
city
in
the
amount
of
101
million
330
000
dollars,
which
was
found
revenue,
and
then,
additionally,
we
identified
about
2.2
million
of
additional
monies
that
needed
to
be
reserved
for
any
possible
future
claims
over
the
next
three
years.
Thus
far
they've
identified
about
30
or
35
000
of
claims,
but
that's
that's
a
nominal
amount,
so
there's
potentially
additional
monies
that
will
come
from
that
one
audit.
So
I
guess
from
a
funding
source
standpoint.
D
Madam
budget
chair-
I
just
have
come
in
and-
and
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear-
that
mr
retman
is
accounting
for
this,
but
within
the
last
I
guess,
60
days
or
so
60
days
I'll,
say.
D
He
made
the
request
of
bringing
on
additional
help
and
we
brought
on
an
additional
auditor
for
him
and
that
auditor
position
is
included
in
the
mayor's
budget
for
22,
so
he
is
getting
a
position.
So
are
you?
Are
you
counting
that
position?
It
was
my
question
because
that's
the
position
he
did
not
have
60
days
ago.
K
Well,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
to
have
me.
I
promise
to
be
as
quick
as
I
certainly
can.
K
K
I
think
this
is
because
probate
judges
have
more
contact
with
the
general
public
through
weapons
carry
licenses
applications
than
other
classes
of
judges.
Meeting
the
public
demand
for
weapons
carry
licenses
has
been
extremely
challenging
over
the
past
year
and
muskogee
county's
demand
for
weapons
carry
licenses
has
increased
dramatically.
K
The
probate
court
was
closed
for
weapons,
carry
licenses
and
marriage
licenses
between
march
14,
2020
and
may
18
2020.
Yet
we
processed
more
weapons.
Carry
licenses
in
that
10-month
period
in
2020
than
we
did
in
all
of
currently.
The
probate
court
is
processing
all
renewals
by
mail
and
up
to
20
appointments
a
day.
K
So
far
in
2021
we
have
processed
nearly
well
over
1800,
as
shown
in
the
next
few
slides.
We
have
experienced
unprecedented
demand
for
weapons
carry
licenses
during
20
and
21.
As
a
result,
during
fy
22,
I
anticipate
a
significant
increase
in
revenue
from
weapons
carry
licenses
to
return
and
a
return
to
normal
in
quotes
about
revenue
from
marriage
licenses.
This
is
why
I'm
asking
here
asking
today
for
a
meager
increase
in
my
budget,
to
reclassify
one
of
my
senior
clerks
from
a
g14b
to
a
g15b.
K
K
K
K
Our
projection
for
this
year
is
based
on
the
average
number
we've
done
for
the
first
four
months
of
this
year
of
having
5100
weapons
carry
licenses
processed
this
year.
The
jump
in
looking
at
this
chart.
It's
very
it's
interesting,
to
see
the
biggest
jump
originally,
which
I
thought
was
an
astronomical
number
was
in
2008,
and
some
people
referred
to
that
as
the
obama
effect.
K
K
Have
we?
Okay,
conservative
estimates
for
increased
revenue
from
weapons
carry
license
applications
in
20,
fy
2022.
K
The
revenue
derived
from
every
weapons
carry
license
is
twenty
seven
dollars
to
the
columbus
consolidated
government.
Twenty
two
of
it
is
netted
to
it
comes
from
fees
charged
by
the
muskogee
county
probate
court.
Five
dollars
is
a
fee
we
collect
for
the
sheriff
for
the
fingerprinting
and
background
check
processing.
K
I
can
give
you
all
a
breakdown
of
why
the
the
main
difference
between
a
renewal
which
is
35
and
the
new
application,
which
is
79,
really
comes
down
to
the
gbi
fbi.
Charging
us
43.25
for
those
background
checks
what
I
did
in
terms
of
showing
that
this
is
really
a
revenue
neutral
request.
Giving
my
increase
in
revenue
is
I'm
projecting
fifty
one
hundred
new
weapons
carry
licenses
this
year,
but
let's
work
with
four
thousand
four
thousand
is
a
very
conservative
estimate
about
4
000
weapons
carry
light.
K
K
K
K
This
is
an
important
part
of
the
supervision.
It
will
reduce
re
process
related
errors.
I
haven't
had
an
increase
in
staff.
We
had
half
the
staff
working
at
home
to
use
the
passive
voice.
Effectively.
Mistakes
were
made,
I'm
confident.
Well.
I
actually
know
that
counselor
allen
and
I
believe,
counselor
house-
were
both
contacted
about
by
constituents
related
to
concerns
they
had
about
how
fast
I
was
processing
their
weapons,
carry
licenses
and
other
things.
K
Different
probate
courts
have
different
approaches
making
whenever
they
have
increases.
Like
this
they'd
add
another
clerk
in
columbus.
I've
always
tried
to
be
smarter
and
smaller
and
more
efficient,
and
I
think,
by
increasing
supervision,
as
opposed
to
saying
I
need
another
clerk
is
a
much
cheaper,
better
value
for
the
citizens.
The
reclassifications
impact
on.
K
We
all
talk
about
general
reserve.
I
like
to
break
things
down
to
general
reserve
the
impact
assuming
well.
First
of
all,
as
I
said,
my
revenue
will
in
fact
increase,
but
assuming
it
didn't,
the
impact
on
the
res,
the
general
reserve
fund
balance
would
be
under
six
minutes.
If
you
want
to
be
exactly
precise,
it'll
be
five
minutes
and
48
seconds.
K
Does
anyone
have
any
questions?
So
let
me
reiterate:
I'm
asking
for
a
pro
motion
of
my
one
of
my
senior
clerks
to
a
senior
clerk
with
licensed
supervision
and
the
ability
to
act
as
the
judge
in
uncontested
matters.
The
cost
to
this
city
in
terms
of
an
increase
in
my
budget
is
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
in
change
and
my
revenue
and
the
efficiency,
and
probably
the
number
of
calls
council
folks
may
get
about
mistakes
being
made,
will
be
reduced
significantly.
I
think
this
is
actually
a
bargain
in,
in
the
long
run,.
K
A
And
is
this
ms
alexander
and
mr
cubley
make
sure
that
I'm
doing
this
right,
we
are
proposing
increasing
salaries
throughout
the
the
government.
Is
this
one
one
of
the
ones
we
are
proposing
to
increase.
K
D
No,
it
is
not,
and
it
sounds
like
he
is
requesting
to
maybe
change
a
title
and
change
some
duties
responsibilities
to
allow
it's
a
reclassification
as
well.
D
A
D
Over
and
above
because
you
know
we're
proposing
the
two
percent
paying
adjust,
cost
of
living
right,
right
and
and
and
that
would
be
where
you
shift
the
whole
pay
scale
because
of
the
cost
of
living
and
not
a
pay
raise,
and
so
they
would
get
that.
But
he's
asking
to
reclassify
the
position,
it
would
cost
twenty
one
hundred
eighty
nine
dollars
to
reclassify
it
based
on
what
he's
requesting
changing
the
title.
D
L
A
K
I
agree
completely
we're
going
back
to.
I
guess
I
knew
normal.
A
K
E
Alexander,
thank
you.
Next
up
on
the
agenda
is
public
works
and
we
have
director
mike
crittel
here.
This
is
his
first
budget
presentation
to
council.
So
I
wish
I'd
be
nice,
but.
M
N
H
M
Let's
start
off
I'll
start
off
with
the
general
fund
capital
needs.
This
is
right.
After
the
cover
page
of
your
packet
got
three
basic
areas:
animal
control
we've
got
three
vehicles
that
you
can
see.
The
mileage
are
at
or
above
200
000
miles.
These
are
your
service
vehicles,
the
trucks
that
go
out
with
the
bodies
on
to
actually
catch
the
animals,
and
there
are
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
We
are
spending
an
inordinate
amount
of
money
on
maintenance
of
the
vehicles
every
year.
M
I
am
going
to
be
brief
unless
there
are
questions
here.
Well.
The
next
item
are
surveillance
cameras.
We
talked
about
surveillance
cameras,
a
while
back
when
I
was
here
talking
about
illegal
dumping,
and
what
have
you
before
that
for
the
same
group
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
proposed
was
to
put
110
000
for
surveillance
cameras
in
the
budget,
self-contained
units
that
are
solar,
powered
license,
plate,
recognition,
software,
etc.
We
are
still
having
a
tremendous
amount
of
dumping
around
the
city
that
we're.
M
M
M
We've
experienced
some
delays
and
some
angry
folks
about
getting
backhoes
and
getting
equipment
over
there
to
to
actually
dig
the
graves,
and
so
that
that
last
one
is
for
the
backhoe
and
a
tandem
axle
trailer
to
move
that
backhoe
around.
You
know
from
the
three
cemeteries
that
we're
responsible
for
so
that
total
for
the
general
fund
is
539.
M
M
M
M
M
So
guess
what
that
does
that
takes
the
street
department
off
the
street
they're,
not
fixing
potholes
they're
delivering
carts,
but
that's
what
we've
got
to
do
we're
doing
what
we
have
to
do
right
now,
but
we're
very,
very
underfunded
and
undermanned.
The
roper
survey
station
is
also
a
very
critical
piece.
The
landfill
allows
us
to
make
sure
we
get
the
right
amount
of
compaction
and
cover
and
not
too
much
cover.
M
It's
really
easy
to
cover
things
up:
that's
a
gps
machine
that
allows
us
to
keep
a
close
survey
eye
on
the
on
the
height
of
the
landfill,
the
working
cell
and
then
there's
a
couple
more
items
on
there.
The
gators
for
landfill,
opera
observation
and
the
suv
is
for
our
compliance
officer.
The
last
one
on
there
is
a
big
ticket
item.
I
realize
that
it's
also
very
neat.
It's
a
it's
a
convenience
center
for
our
citizens.
M
We
don't
have
a
convenience
center,
it's
something
we've
talked
about,
and
I've
heard
mentioned
more
than
once
in
this
room.
That
would
be
really
nice
to
have
an
area
at
the
landfill
for
people
to
bring
stuff
if
they
had
stuff
to
bring
bulky
items
that
they
didn't
want
to
wait
for
the
truck
to
come
around
that
they
could
go
ahead
and
bring
it
out
to
the
landfill.
That's
what
this
is,
and
this
is
actually
a
reduced
number
matt
and
his
group
out
the
landfill
have
done
some
work.
M
Some
preliminary
work
as
far
as
the
grading
and
site
preparation,
but
it's
going
to
take
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
complete
that
to
make
that
a
workable,
user-friendly
convenience
center
for
folks
to
bring
stuff
out
there
and
it
could
be
anything
mattresses
cardboard.
What
have
you
anything?
That's
big
and
bulky
that
they
don't
want
to
leave
out
in
their
yard
for
the
folks
to
pick
up.
M
Our
current
garbage
collection
fee
is
18
a
month,
and
that
includes
unlimited
everything.
We
have
unlimited
bulk.
We
have
unlimited
yard
waste,
we
have
unlimited
garbage
and
that's
just
not
a
sustainable
model.
That's
not
a
sustainable
model.
In
this
city
and
most
of
the
other
cities.
I've
talked
to
a
matter
of
fact
all
the
other
cities.
I've
talked
to
have
eliminated
this
completely.
M
They
don't
do
this
at
all.
Nobody
doesn't
limit
it
anymore.
Just
you
can't
do
it
and
for
several
reasons
it's
not
just
you
know.
We
don't
want
to
it's
it's
impossible
to
plan
routes,
because
you
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take.
That's
why
the
bulk
routes
are
two
weeks
behind.
You
know
we
did
a.
We
did
a
eviction
a
few
days
ago
and
I
had
two
grab
all
crews
out
there
for
two
days,
two
grab
all
crews
for
two
solid
days.
I
just
can't
do
that.
M
M
What
I
can
propose
to
you
today
we
worked
very
very
hard
on
this.
A
three
dollar
increase
per
month
will
fund
your
integrated
waste
fund
for
the
next
10
years.
You
don't
have
to
touch
it.
I
realize
it's
a
third
rail
of
politics
for
sure.
Is
that
that
rate
increase
I
get
it,
but
I
think,
having
stuff
on
the
street
and
sit
there
is,
is
worse,
we're
in
a
worse
situation
now
and
guys
right
now.
This
is,
we
have
put
band-aids
on
a
cancer
patient.
M
I
don't
know
any
other
way.
To
put
it,
that's
what
we've
got.
We've
got
band-aids
stuck
all
over
him
and
he's
dying
quickly
and
that's
the
integrated
waste
fund
is
dying.
We
don't
we
can't
fund
this.
We
just
can't
keep
doing
this,
it's
going
to
implode
and
when
it
does
it's
going
to
be
ugly.
Just
like
the
trucks
lisa
mentioned
in
the
presentation
earl,
we
got
seven
to
ten
trucks
down
per
day,
and
that
is
a
fleet
working
all
the
time.
M
M
I'm
going
to
point
out
some,
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
on
this
page
and
I've
circled
a
group
of
numbers
here
scenario.
Four
was
the
last
scenario
that
we
ran
with
our
consultant
and
if
you
notice,
on
the
very
top
line,
that's
got
annual
capital
purchases
outright.
The
last
two
snares
three
and
four
reduced
it
from
about
seven,
a
little
over
seven
million
to
nine
hundred
thousand.
What
we've
done
is
move
some
of
that
infrastructure
to
splost
and
that
allows
us
to
lower
this.
M
Otherwise
that
number
that
twenty
one
dollars
a
month
number
would
be
somewhere
around
twenty
six
dollars
a
month,
and
that
seems
like
a
good
way
to
do
it,
but
the
chart
at
the
bottom.
The
very
bottom
part
shows
you
what
the
capital
requirements
are
and
this
and
when
I
talk
about
the
10-year
plan
for
integrated
waste,
that's
everything!
That's
your
closure!
That
landfill
sales!
That's
post-closure!
M
M
And
I
would
certainly
like
you
guys
to
consider
that,
because
it's
a
it's,
it's
we're
at
a
critical
juncture
here.
The
eight
trucks
have
certainly
helped,
and
I've
heard
more
than
one
of
the
counselors
say
in
this
room.
What
happens
when
the
covenant
money
runs
out?
I
I
believe
counselor
thomas
said
that
today
I
know,
councillor
davis
has
said
it
before
it's
true.
We
can
the
20
the
20
million
dollars
that
we're
talking
about
spending
is
is
fantastic,
that
will
that
will
bring
columbus
up
to
a
current
modern
level
of
of
collection.
M
No
doubt
about
it,
we
will
be
the
envy
of
everybody
around
us,
you
containerize
all
your
waste
and
by
containerizing
it
it's
a
de
facto
limiter.
You
get
one
can.
If
you
want
to
get
another,
can
it
costs
extra
fee?
So
you
got
the
one:
can
there
so
it
could?
It
actually
encourages
people
to
be
better
consumers,
don't
buy
as
much
recycle,
more,
do
better
things,
but
allows
us
to
do
it
much
more
much
faster,
much
more
efficient,
but
when
those
trucks,
those
trucks,
got
a
five-year
life,
those
brand
new,
pretty
mac
trucks.
M
M
That's
difficult
what
I've
looked
at
from
other
cities
and
I've
got
I'm
glad.
You
asked
that
because
I've
actually
got
a
sheet
here
that
I
printed
off
savannah's
website
today
and
they
do
they
do
a
hundred
dollar
fee,
plus
tippage,
plus
whatever
the
tonnage
is
and
that
that
puts
them
a
a
dumpster
out
there
and
they
can
request
it.
It
doesn't
really
matter
as
far
as
what
dumpster,
if
they
need
a
10
yard,
20
yard
or
40
yard,
they
just
call
and
tell
them.
M
I
need
a
40
yard
dumpster
out
there
and
it's
a
100
fee,
plus
the
tippage.
That
seems
to
be
that's,
that's
low.
To
be
honest
with
you,
if
you
do
it,
you
can
do
a
you
can
actually
go
on
some
of
the
commercial
hauler
sites
and
you
can
put
in
your
address
and
how
much
is
in
the
average
address
around
here
for
a
40
yard.
Dumpster
is
about
700.
J
That
I
would
recommend
that
you
try
and
do
an
average
of
what
the
tippage
would
be
and
up
that
price,
because.
J
Yes,
not
add
the
tippage
just
increase
the
100
and
the
reason
why
I
say
that
I
am
a
property
manager,
and
so
we're
probably
you
know
just
to
be
just
to
have
one
fee
for
everybody
would
probably
work
better
because
we're
going
to
pass
through
that
that
charge
the
landlord
will
pay
for
it,
but
they're
going
to
turn
around
and
charge
the
tenant
after
the
fact,
and
so
if
we
know
that
up
front
say
it's
250,
then
we
put
that
into
the
lease
saying
that
there
will
be
a
250
dollar
eviction
charge,
or
something
like
that.
B
Council
crab,
I
will
tell
you
that
we
have
met
a
couple
of
times
with
a
number
of
landlords
and
and
discussed
this
issue,
because
it
is
it's
a
huge,
huge
problem,
because
when
they,
when
they
dispossess
these
individuals,
they
put
everything
on
the
street
within
an
hour.
It's
scattered
over
four
blocks
and
then
and
then
it
just
stays
there,
because
we
don't
have
the
manpower
to
go
out
there
and
start
raking
it
and
fleecing
it
up.
B
As
mr
criddle
mentioned
before,
it
took
two
crews
two
days
to
do
one
eviction
and
we
have
talked
to
the
landlords
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
we'll
go
back
to
them
and
try
to
try
to
come
to
some
kind
of
finalization
for
this,
because
we
were
trying
to
avoid
increasing
their
cost
because
we
know
their
profit
margins
are
only
so
so
slim.
But
we
also
don't
want
to
add
this
to
the
to
the
tenant.
J
You
know
we
call
you
when
we
know
that
we're
going
to
have
an
eviction
you
we
tell
you
that
the
date
that
the
sheriff
is
going
to
be
there
and
we
just
get
it
all
done
and
that
would
make
it
very
clean,
very
convenient.
I
like
that
idea,
we'll.
B
We'll
pull
that
group
back
together
and
we'll
get
you
in
there
to
as
as
kind
of
wearing
two
hats.
One
is
a
counselor.
One
is
a
one.
Is
the
the
landlord
too.
I
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
item
to
the
and
delete
this,
and
that
was
the
back
home.
I
D
Regarding,
what's
could
be
available
this
fiscal
year
in
the
public
works
budget
based
on
the
current
spending
and
the
fiscal
year
end
in
june
30th?
D
But
let
me
just
say
that
you
know,
as
we
look
at
the
arp
funds,
I'm
just
addressing
all
of
his.
You
know
regarding
the
rate
increase
and
all
of
that
you
know,
we
you've
heard
us
mention
numerous
times
about
the
possibility
of
arp
funds
and
subject
to
your
approval.
D
If
we
get
all
of
the
money
that
we've
been
told,
we're
going
to
get
that,
we
would
want
to
look
at
automating
waste
collection
and
getting
eliminated
new
use
of
inmates,
and
I
really
think
that
we
should
kind
of
take
a
wait
and
see
approach
if
we're
going
to
get
the
dollars
if
you're
going
to
if
we
get
the
dollars.
D
If
you,
the
mayor
and
council,
will
approve
automate
in
our
system
that
we
don't
use,
we
eliminate
inmate,
labor
labor
and
waste
collection,
and
so
you
know
if
we,
if
we
do
that,
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
we
ought
to
be
talking
about
our
garbage
rate
increase.
But
but
at
least
let's
wait
and
and
see.
If
we
can
make
that
happen,
and
that's
related
to
the
integrated
waste
and
and
even
the
other
equipment
related
to
integrated
waste
that
he
has
mentioned,
he's
got
a
778
thousand
dollars
to
the
animal
control.
D
539
000.
You
know
and
finance
director
shared
with
me,
and
I
shared
with
the
mayor
and
we've
talked
but
like
with
parks
and
rec.
D
The
finance
director
is
comfortable
with
up
to
250
000
out
of
this
year's
budget,
which
means
we
could
bring
something
back
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
june
30th
at
the
next.
If
not
the
next
meeting
in
may
then
meeting
in
june,
and
so
what
I
would
propose
is
like
with
parts
and
rec,
though
it's
only
250
000
and
he's
expressed,
needs
much
greater
that
we
allow
him
to
use
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
current
budget.
D
D
I
And
his
agenda,
the
only
one
I
was
talking
about
because
it
concerns
me-
is
the
that's
cemetery,
only
one
that
I
want
to
put
on
there
to
ensure,
because
he
has
all
these
other
needs
and
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
He
can
raise
that
and
just
have
one
item
and
or
on
the
camera,
but
I'm
really
really
concerned
about
the
back
hole.
That's
the
only
one
that
I'm.
D
I
D
On
and
if
we
do
that
up
to
250
000,
he
could
certainly
purchase
the
backhoe
and
then,
of
course,
the
mayor
mentioned
something
that
I
guess
is
worth
mentioning.
You
know
I
know
the
police
and
fire
not
related
to
what
year.
That's
the
backup,
but
the
police
and
fire
are
looking
at
cameras
and,
and
the
mayor
was
just
suggesting
on
cameras
that
they
could
really,
I
guess,
may
or
pull
those
reasons.
B
So
if
we're
going
to
move
them
from
site
to
site
where
we're
having
continuous
problems
with
illegal
dumping,
we
can
also
use
those
because,
if
you
overlay
those
areas,
a
lot
of
these
are
the
same
areas
that
are
struggling
with
poverty,
struggling
with
some
of
the
violent
crime
issues.
So
I
think
if
we,
if
we
consolidate
our
purchasing
power,
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
better
deal
on
the
cameras
and
deploy
them
according
to
the
needs
of
at
least
those
three
and
maybe
even
other
other
departments,
and
I
didn't
want
to
make
one
comment.
B
D
A
I
I
would
think
that,
excuse
me
without
objection,
we
will
allow
the
finance
director
and
the
city
manager
to
make
these.
I
D
I
Funding
are
we
keeping
a
list
of
some
of
the
things
that
we're
considering
to
look
if
we
can
use
that
money
based
on
the
conversation
we're
having
here
and
so
forth,
and
I'm
saying
that
because
just
like
thomas
said
earlier,
let's
not
forget
to
go
back
like
for
the
parks
and
rec.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
anybody's
keeping
a
list
so
that
when
we
go
look
at
that,
we
can
say
during
a
budget
session
or
they're
in
council.
There
was
a
need
for
this
item.
D
Well,
let
me
just
say
this,
and
I
was
talking
to
the
mayor-
I
guess
yesterday,
the
day
before
we've
had
every
department
head
to
submit
what
they
have
researched
to
be
allowed,
but
funding
for
arp,
and
then
the
staff
team
compiled
a
list
and
and
and
that
list
of
course
we
know
that
we're
projected
to
get
78
to
80
million
dollars
and-
and
so
every
department
has
submitted
for
some
of
that
funding
and-
and
I
mean
I'll,
just
simply
tell
you
78
million
dollars
based
on
what
they
submitted
is
not
enough
money
so
but
but
they've.
D
I
guess
the
point
I'm
making
is
that
while
we
are
making
reference
to
them,
looking
to
the
arp
they've
already
submitted
another
list
to
the
team
and
they've
got
every
single
department
who
has
submitted
a
list
calculated
in
in
that
allocation,
and
we
know
obviously
all
department
heads
won't
be
able
to
get
all
that
they've
put
on
that
list.
But
the
list
is
very
extensive.
M
D
In
madam
budget
chair
budget
neutral
positions,
we
don't
have
any
concerns
with
like
with
just
those
who
have
come
before
you
were
not
budget
neutral,
others
that
were
budget
neutral.
We
didn't
make
an
issue
of
them.
We
because
we
got
to
yield
to
the
department
of
his
discretion.
E
Yes,
so
the
value
of
what
he's
requesting
is
a
new
car
shop
supervisor
grade
17
position.
That
cost
is
54
802
dollars.
There's
also
a
that
was
review.
That
position
was
reviewed
by
columbus
state
university.
There
was
also
another
reclassification
that
was
reviewed
by
columbus
state
university.
It
was
for
the.
E
E
His
proposal
is
to
delete
two
positions
in
fleet:
one
fleet,
tech
maintenance,
one
and
another
fleet,
maintenance,
tech,
two,
the
value
of
those
deletions,
eighty
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
twenty
eight
dollars,
so
the
net
difference
is
actually
addition
back
to
the
fund
balance
of
twenty
nine
dollars.
I'm
sorry:
twenty
nine
thousand
three
hundred
and
seven
dollars.
E
H
J
D
Well,
first
of
all,
I
think
if
we
were
going
to
propose
a
rate
increase
it
would
we
would
not
abruptly
drop
it
on
you
at
budget
review.
We
would
go
through
the
a
rate
study
and
then
we
would
come
to
you
in
a
series
of
meetings
and
and
explain
that
here,
the
the
here's,
the
revenue
that
we
get
from
65
000
households
or,
however,
many
and
here
are
the
expenses
to
show
you
where
we're
short
with
the
gap.
B
B
But
it's
just
a
very,
very
difficult
thing.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
tax,
it's
a
it's
a
user
fee
and-
and
we
have
been
very,
very
sensitive
to
holding
the
line
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we,
as
mr
crittel
has
explained
it's,
I
think
it's
time
to
bring
another
study,
take
a
look
at
it
under
under
current
conditions
and
and
allow
council
and
the
public
just
say.
B
Well,
this
is
what
it
is,
so
we
need
to
figure
a
way
to
deal
with
it,
and-
and
you
know
there
are
other
other
things
that
can
be
looked
at-
perhaps
even
a
graduated
increase,
where
maybe
you
just
scheduled
that
increase
over
two
years
or
three
years.
I
don't
know
I'm
thinking
out
loud,
but
we,
I
think
it
is
time
I
think,
there's
there's
several
counselors
who've
never
been
had
the
benefit
of
looking
at
everything
that
goes
into
operation
of
the
integrated
waste
fund.
B
So
we
didn't
put
it
in
the
in
the
budget,
even
though
it
was
recommended,
because
we
did
not
have
time
to
do
that
study
and
then
bring
it
to
you.
So
we'll
we'll
bring
it
back
during
this
fiscal
year
and
we've
been,
I
think,
put
on
notice
by
mr
crittle
and
by
our
our
city
manager.
That
needs
to
be
addressed.
J
Well,
that's
what
I
was
talking
to
massage
about
where
it
was
showing
that
they
were
increasing.
Just
you
know,
minuscule
amounts.
You
know
a
dollar
or
less
for
several
years
in
a
row
and
then
since
night,
since
2018
there
hasn't
been
an
increase
and
so
from
his
recommendation
of
going
up
three
dollars,
it's
actually
less
than
a
dollar
a
year.
Since
we've
had
our
last
increase
on
that,
and
so.
H
B
J
Yeah,
I
think
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
having
this
year
is
showing
that
we're
we're
at
the
tipping
point
that
that
we've
we've
stretched
it
out.
Maybe
as
long
as
we
could
and
now
it's
starting
to
affect
our
quality
of
life.
D
And-
and
I
absolutely
agree-
and
I
know
that
I
know
they
were
working
on
a
rate
study-
I
don't
know
if
it's
complete
if
they've
completed
it
but
they've
been
doing
some
work
and
but
considering
these
arp
funds
and,
as
the
mayor
said,
if
we're
able
to
to
do
the
heavy
lift
of
that
equipment
out
of
the
arp
fund,
you
know
it
would
have
an
impact
on
what
the
rate
should
be
if
we
adjust
the
rate.
D
So
we'll
we'll
be
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
on
that
and
madam
budgets
here
you
someone
would
need
to
put
the
ad
that
put
the
budget
neutral
request
on
the
ad
delete.
L
L
I
hear
about
crime,
I
hear
about
trash.
Those
are
two
things.
My
constituents
have
never
complained
to
me
about
willing
to
pay
for
more
for
to
have
better
service
and
I'd
rather
just
catch
up
now
with
a
what
I
think
is
a
very
minor
increase
of
three
dollars
a
month
and
then
us
institute
some
sort
of
rate
study
system.
That
will
continue
to
graduate
that
as
needed,
because
we
are
providing
way
more
in
service
than
what
we
are.
L
What
we
are
charging
people
don't
get
that
because
the
rates
have
always
been
very
low,
but
it's
just
the
truth.
We
all
know
it
we're
all
constituents
ourselves
of
the
city
and
it's
it's
something
that
we
don't
keep
up
with
it.
People
are
going
to
get
real
upset.
They're
already
upset
with
the
you
know
the
lack
of
what
we're
able
to
do
with
the
resources.
So
I
think
this
is
a
time
for
us
to
make
that
change.
G
Council
tucker,
can
I
ask
a
question
about
the
customer
convenience
center?
I
know
you
said
the
250
000.
That's
what
angelica
would
actually
add
for
him
to
decide,
but
can
we
really
look
at
the
customer
convenience
center?
Because
if
that's
going
to
allow
people
to
actually
go-
and
you
know
drop
off
their
large
items,
I
think
that
would
be
an
asset
and
will
actually
help
with
the
blight
in
the
community
as
well.
G
D
D
D
D
D
A
lot
of
us
have
taken
white
goods
or
even
yard
waste
to
the
landfill,
and
you
can
take
it
and
they
weigh
you
in
going
in
and
where
you're
coming
out
and
you
pay
a
modest
fee,
a
dollar
60
cents,
you
know,
but
but
the
convenience
center
is
an
integrated
waste.
Expense
is
the
only
point
I'm
trying
to
make
and-
and
we
should
not
use
general
fund,
like
the
250
000,
that
we
said
for
general
fund
that
we
would
bring
back.
We
shouldn't
be
using
that
for
integrated
waste
expense.
D
Madam
budget
chair
was
that
public
works
budget
neutral,
put
on
that.
E
Thank
you
and
I'm
going
to
do
this
presentation,
speedy
guns,
all
this
stuff,
so
just
the
payroll
department
which
lies
in
the
finance,
the
payroll
division,
which
lies
in
the
finance
department,
we're
responsible
for
all
employee
garnishments.
Those
have
to
be
answered
within
within
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
that
the
city
is
not
liable
for
those
garnishments
child
support
payments,
tax
levies,
w2
1099
processing,
if
you
need
copies
of
your
w-2,
we'll
get
that
to
you
too.
E
E
And
so
when
you
I,
I
actually
polled
the
large
the
five.
The
top
five
cities
in
georgia,
which
columbus
falls
in
the
top
five
and
just
just
to
see
what
we
were
in
comparison
to
you,
know
in
staffing
in
terms
of
what
they
have
and,
of
course,
atlanta
being
the
biggest.
They
have
nine
full-time
people
in
the
payroll
department
serving
over
9
000
employees
augusta.
They
have
four
full-time
employees
serving
over
2
800
macon
has
four
full-time
employees
serving
over
1500
employees.
E
E
My
payroll
supervisor,
but
she
she
is
a
person
that
will
not
quit.
I
will
absolutely
say
that
she
is
one
of
the
hardest
working
people
in
this
government
and
I
will
put
money
on
that.
I
will
put
my
house
on
that.
She
is
one
of
the
hardest
working
people
for
the
city
of
columbus
and
she
is
eligible
for
retirement
next
year.
E
E
E
We
need
at
least
one
more
person,
so
that
is
my
request
this
year.
It
is,
unfortunately,
not
budget
neutral,
but
if,
with
you
know-
and
I
could
talk
numbers
in
terms
of
revenues
and
what
the
finance
department
collect,
you
know
we're
responsible
for
at
least
10
percent
of
the
general
fund
revenues
that
we
collect
in
the
revenue
division.
But
I
won't
use
that
you
know
obviously
revenue
offset.
E
D
You
know
when
you
got
3000
employees
and
two
people
handling
payroll
payroll
is
a
big
deal
and,
and
you
and
some
employees
you
they
they're
nice
until
you
mess
with
their
money,
and
so
I
just
we
got
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right
and.
A
D
J
J
E
Please,
thank
you
so
next
up
on
the
agenda,
we
have
the
coroner's
office
and
we
have
a
deputy
corner
here.
Mr
worley,
as
well
as
the
administrative
coordinator,
malika.
E
P
O
This
was
alan
allison
she's
at
38
786.
He
wants
to
bring
her
up
to
43
882
and
charles
newton
he's
at
48
483,
I'm
I'm
starting
43
473.
He
wants
to
bring
him
up
to
48
438.
P
We
do
have
more
debts
and
a
little
bit
of
bigger
population,
but
the
salaries
are
not
comparable,
so
we're
just
hungry.
So.
O
So
the
the
corner
over
there
makes
85,
plus
and
corner
here,
makes
60
and
he's
requesting
a
increase.
O
Now
I
talked
to
him
right
before
we
got
here
and
he
told
me
that
he'd
been
trying
to
get
her.
A
pay
increase
for
nine
years
and
csu
has
made
a
had
approved
for
a
reclass
for
her.
O
To
a
g14
she's
at
12,
a
at
38
now
he's
wanting
to
know
he
said:
he'd
take
everything
off
the
table
to
get
her
a
reclassification.
P
P
P
K
H
P
That
we
are
more
than
half
almost
triple
from
some
years
of
the
homicide,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
having
at
least
60
to
80
homicides
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
that's
three
to
four
hours:
every
homicide,
every
investigation
plus
the
hours
after
the
fact.
So
that's
why
he
really
wants
to
get
the
deputy
corners
a
more
you
know,
comparable
income
to
the
other
counties.
E
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
reference
to
the
cost.
I
have
not
calculated
the
cost
for
the
other
reclassifications,
but
for
the
administrative
assistant,
the
grade
12
to
the
administrative
coordinator
grade
14.,
based
on
our
promotional
policy.
E
E
Our
promotional
policy
would
place
this
position
out
from
a
grade
12
b
to
a
grade
14
a
which
is
the
three
thousand
thirteen
dollars,
but
what's
listed
here
in
the
packet,
the
salary
requested
is
four
to
six
thousand
four
eighteen,
and
so
that
would
actually
take
the
position
out
to
that
of
a
step
k
and
the
cost
with
benefits
is
fifteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
ninety
eight
dollars.
P
And
we
were
also
just
referring
to
the
csu
form
that
they
sent
out
with
the
mean
and
median
minimum
and
maximum
increase
for
the
pay.
That's
what
we
used
to
go
by,
but
for
the
deputy
coroners.
We
use
a
collateral,
lateral
increase
to
get
those
increases.
P
And
also
to
say
that
for
the
reclassification,
it's
not
so
much
that
I'm
that
buddy
wants
to
reclassify
me
to
do
additional
work.
It's
to
reclassify
me
for
the
work
that
I'm
already
doing
and
have
been
doing
for
the
last
few
years.
It's
in
the
same
thing
with
the
the
increase
for
the
deputy
coroners
as
well.
O
P
But
if
we
can
get
the
increase
from
deputy
corners,
who
work
very
hard
and
diligently
to
help
the
families
during
the
worst
possible
moments
in
their
lives,
he
would
really
appreciate
that
as
well,
because
the
deputy
coroners
they
do
work
tirelessly
every
single
day
past
their
days
on
holidays
and
weekends,
to
make
sure
that
the
families
are
taken
care
of
and
they
go
above
and
beyond.
And
people
really
just
you
know,
respectfully
request
an
increase
in
their
their.
A
D
No
ma'am,
I
don't.
I
don't
have
anything.
N
P
E
D
E
A
A
A
A
E
Is
our
elections,
department
and
director
nancy
board,
and
I
have
been
in
conversation
about
her
request
she's
coming
to
make
today
there
is
no
no
handout
here
but
I'll.
Let
her
make
that.
Q
Q
Thank
you.
Madame
budget
chair
members
of
council,
first
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
to
the
city
manager,
dr
hugley,
and
to
the
finance
director,
ms
alexander,
for
helping
me
figure
out
how
to
accomplish
what
what
I
need
to
accomplish
and
what
I
hope
to
accomplish
in
this
request
today.
Q
Q
The
total
amount
requested
is
7767.
that
will
be
accomplished
and
will
be
budget
neutral
by
reducing
the
number
of
permanent,
temporary
permanent
part-time
hours
from
the
budgeted
29
hours
for
three
positions
to
25
hours.
For
those
three
positions,
the
finance
director
went
through
the
previous
three
budget
years
and
those
permanent
part-time
positions
never
used
their
20,
their
full
29
hours,
all
three
of
them.
So
this
would
be
a
budget
neutral.
A
Request,
council
tucker.
A
I
did
it
the
right
way:
okay,
council
tucker
has
added
that
budget
neutral
position.
Anybody
else
anything
else.
A
I
was,
I
was
at
the
star
of
the
fourth
grade
at
northside
school.
H
B
Was
there
she
was
named
by
the
columbus
bar
association
with
as
a
recipient
of
the
liberty
bell
award,
which
is
given
to
people
for
long.
B
And
it's
it's:
it's
a
very
special
award.
It's
given
to
a
non-legal
profession
who
are
professional,
who
has
had
a
long-term
positive
impact
on
her,
not
just
her
area,
but
also
her
community
and
she's.
Just
done
she's
been
one
of
the
leading
experts
in
the
united
states
on
elections,
and
I
just
wanted
to
congratulate
her
again.
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
as
I
said
in
my
remarks
too,
I
certainly
could
not
do
it
without
the
leadership
and
the
com
confidence
placed
in
me
by
the
council
and
by
our
city
manager,
by
the
mayor
by
the
members
of
the
group
who
helped
me
accomplish
what
I
need
to
accomplish.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Well,
that
is
the
last
department
presentation
we
have
for
today.
Again
we
are
meeting
on
may
25th
not
next
week,
which
is
the
18th
we're
meeting
on
may
25th,
but
budget
review
starts
at
2
pm
on
may
25th,
in
which
we'll
cover
all
the
items
on
the
add
delete
list,
and
I
will
send
that
list
out,
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
this
week,
with
the
tally
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
the
additions
and
deletions.
A
A
Mr
mayor,
do
you
want
to
dismiss
us
or
shall
I
with
no
further
business?
The
meeting
is.