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A
B
All
right
good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
june
9th
meeting
of
the
columbus
city
council.
We're
so
glad
to
have
you
here.
Fasten
your
seat
belts
today
is
going
to
be
a
long
one,
we're
going
to
have
budget
issues
and
all
sorts
of
good
government
going
on
for
you
all
today.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
and
get
started
every
time
we
come
together.
As
you
know,
we
get
started
on
the
right
foot
of
community
contemplation
and
prayer
and
we're
going
to
have
reverend
dr
carolyn
carlisle
come
forward
with
hosley
monumental
cme
church.
B
It's
so
good
to
have
you
come
to
the
podium
here,
and
I
think
this
is
the
first
time
we've
had
you
with
us.
Yes,
well
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
and
she's
rocking
it
at
holzley,
monumental
and
and
she's
going
to
provide
the
invocation
consistent
with
your
faith,
tradition,
welcome.
D
D
We
ask
that
you
is
saturated
with
your
holy
spirit,
so
that
when
these
young
men
and
young
women
get
tired
and
weary
that
the
power
of
the
holy
spirit
would
empower
them
to
do
your
will
and
the
work
that
you
have
set
before
them
and
will
be
ever
so
careful
to
give
you
all
the
glory,
honor
and
praise
with
thanksgiving
in
jesus
name.
We
pray
your
son,
but
our
savior
amen,
amen.
B
Thank
you
so
very
much
and
thank
you
for
what
you
and
holsley
monumental
do
for
this
community.
We
greatly
appreciate
it.
I
we
usually
have
some
helpers,
but
I
don't
see
joyful
journey
here
today.
Hopefully
do
we
have
any
word
if
they're
caught
up
in
security,
have
there
been
any
sign
of
a
bunch
of
little
ones
down
there?
Okay?
Well,
what
we'll
do
is,
I
think,
we'll
muddle
through
on
our
own.
If
you
all
will
stand
and
join
with
us
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
G
G
This
relates
to
the
rollback
rate,
the
millage
rate
being
higher
than
the
rollback
rate,
and
what
that
means
is
the
total
amount
of
taxes
that
are
being
collected.
City-Wide
are
more
than
last
year
and
that's
due
to
the
increase
in
the
digest,
not
a
change
in
the
millage
rate.
So
for
those
homeowners
who
have
been
in
their
home
and
have
homestead
exemption,
there
will
be
no
change
in
their
taxes,
no
change
in
the
military.
B
H
No
mayor,
this
is
a
hearing
under
ocga
485
32.1,
and
anybody
is
allowed
to
speak
if
they
want
to
on
the
tentative
millage
rate.
But
if
we
don't
see
any
hands,
we
can
go
on
and
conclude
the
hearing.
I
H
H
B
And
we
have
a
special
presentation
at
the
start
of
our
agenda.
Today
we
usually
have
a
proclamation
session,
as
you
all
know,
in
a
resolution
session,
but
every
now
and
then
we
have
something
special
that
falls
in
between.
We
want
to
catch
it
before
the
summer
break
and
everybody
gets
out
of
town
and
so
we're
going
to
have
counselor
judy
thomas
present
a
special
proclamation
for
miss
cheryl
green
day.
If
you
would
come
forward
she's
the
muskogee
county
teacher
of
the
year,
miss
dave.
You
come
forward
to
the
podium
and
counselor
thomas.
J
I
am
honored
this
morning
wearing
two
hats,
one
as
a
counselor
and
one
as
the
chair
of
the
muskogee
educational
excellence
foundation,
which
is
the
organization
that
recognizes
the
teachers
of
the
year
throughout
the
muskogee
county
school
district.
J
Just
as
an
aside
for
some
of
you
who
may
know
our
friend
ross
hunter
from
the
civic
center,
his
wife
who
teaches
at
downtown
elementary
was
one
of
the
top
ten.
So
we
have
one
of
our
own
who
was
in
the
running
for
this,
but
I
am
so
pleased
to
honor
cheryl
this
morning,
cheryl
greene
teaches
at
jordan
my
alma
mater
and
we're
going
to
present
this
and
then
mayor.
You
said
the
start
of
the
summer
cheryl's
on
her
way
to
the
beach
as
soon
as
this
is
over.
J
Whereas
the
muskogee
educational
excellence
foundation,
selected,
cheryl,
greene
of
jordan
high
as
the
2015
muskogee
county
school
district
teacher
of
the
year
at
a
gala
honoring
56th
teacher
of
the
year
honorees
and
where
she
was
chosen.
The
most
outstanding
representative
of
the
teaching
faculty
of
muskogee
county
school
district
and
whereas
cheryl
teaches
dual
enrollment
classes
with
college
credit
accepted
by
columbus
technical
college
in
english
and
literature.
J
J
She
is
the
yearbook
advisor
and
the
girls
soccer
coach
at
jordan
and
whereas,
before
coming
to
jordan,
high
school
in
2013,
cheryl
taught
at
hardaway
high
school
and
has
had
the
experience
of
teaching
in
vienna
austria
for
two
years,
as
well
as
several
years
in
charlotte
north
carolina
and
social
circle.
Georgia
and
whereas
cheryl
articulated
a
clear
vision
for
the
community
and
a
message
to
the
nation
as
teacher
of
the
year
from
muskogee
county.
K
Last
year
I
was
a
a
soccer
coach
of
a
team
that
was
not
supposed
to
be
very
successful
on
paper.
We
were
even
slated
to
be
average
at
best,
but
my
players
found
their
way.
Past
average
they
went
beyond
the
naysayers,
lost
only
one
game
won
our
region
and
then
represented
columbus
in
the
second
round
of
the
state
tournament
going
the
furthest
that
a
soccer
team
has
ever
gone
in
the
school's
history.
K
K
K
K
B
F
F
B
Well,
it's
moments
like
that
that
make
you
proud
to
be
in
columbus,
georgia.
I
tell
you
what
and
cheryl
was
right
with
the
fact
that
there's
so
many
people
that
care
about
this
community
and
that's
what
makes
it
great
so
thank
you
and
in
that
same
regard,
I
want
to
recognize
brian
anderson,
our
new
ceo
of
the
chamber
of
commerce.
We
welcome
you
to
columbus
and
welcome
you
to
this
city
council
meeting.
Is
this
your
first
all
right?
B
Well,
you're
going
to
be
well
christened
today,
because
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
business
going
on,
but
thank
you
for
being
here.
We
want
to
continue
on
with
the
mayor's
agenda.
I
have
one
add-on
that
we
decided
to
brief
counsel
on.
We
have
had,
as
you
all
know,
there's
litigation
pending
against
the
city
of
certain
elected
officers.
We've
had
numerous
statements
made
publicly
some
here
on
public
agenda
in
the
editorials
of
the
paper
and
so
forth
that
make
some
particular
statements
and,
frankly,
we're
concerned
the
old
adage.
B
If
you
say
something,
that's
inaccurate
three
times,
everybody
believes
it's
true,
and
these
statements
go
to
the
validity
and
credibility
of
the
city
government.
And
so
we
really
feel
like
we
need
to
address
just
a
few
things
and
sarah's
going
to
help
us
real
quick,
so
that
certainly
no
one
gets
the
impression
that
the
city
is
complacent
in
certain
allegations
regarding
how
we
conduct
business
and
the
propriety
of
how
we
conduct
business.
B
First
of
all,
sir,
if
you
put
the
first
one
up,
one
of
the
major
allegations
that
have
been
made
here
at
the
podium
publicly
is
that
the
administration
has
violated
what
what
the
litigants
are
calling
section
8105
of
the
city
charter
and
that
the
mayor
is
obligated
to
take
budget
requests
and
adopt
them
in
whole
into
the
budget
with
no
modification
and
corporation,
and
that
council,
then,
is
obligated
to
provide
those
funds,
as
demanded
by
the
elected
official,
and
so
it
basically
in
its
essence,
is
saying
that
there's
no
such
thing
as
executive
budget
proposal,
and
we
just
wanted
to
show
that
in
georgia
law-
and
this
is
36-81-4.
B
Section
c-
actually
provides
specifically,
that
any
local
jurisdiction
can
have
can
utilize
an
executive
budget
and
that
the
chief
executive
of
that
governmental
unit
can
exercise
what
they
call.
The
initial
budgetary
policy
making
function
while
another
individual,
which
is
our
city
manager,
is
designated
as
provided
in
this
code.
Section
is
the
budget
officer
and
exercises
the
administrative
functions
of
the
budgetary
preparation
and
control.
Now
that's
what
georgia
law
provided
and
when
our
charter
was
enacted,
columbus,
muskogee
county.
B
B
And
so
this
is,
of
course,
classic
proposed
policy-making
function
and
is
precisely
the
type
of
executive
initial
budgetary
policy
making
function
that
the
governor
of
the
state
of
georgia
has
and
the
president
of
the
united
states
has
it's
a
very
common
thing
in
our
representative
democracy
to
have
executive
policy
making
budgetary
process.
That's
proposed
to
the
legislative
body.
Of
course.
Section
three
then
goes
on
to
talk
in
detail
about
how
to
set
out
the
annual
operating
capital
budgets.
B
And,
of
course
it
says
we
must
make
a
reasonable
estimate
of
cash
revenues
in
subsection
b
and
subsection
c
is
what's
critically
important,
that
the
mayor
must
shall
propose
expenditures
detailed
by
each
department
board,
commission
office
agency
and
activity
in
accordance
with
the
established
classification
of
accounts
in
georgia
law.
The
word
office
is
defined
as
elected
office.
B
So
if
you
are
elected
whatever
position,
that
is,
then
you
are
known
as
an
office
not
as
a
department,
and
so
our
initial
executive
budgetary
policy
making
process
which
is
allowed
by
georgia
law
and
we
chose
to
adopt
specifically
provides
that
the
mayor
shall
propose
line,
item
budget
expenditures
for
each
elected
office
and
then,
of
course,
it
goes
on
to
talk
about
work,
programs
and
performance
data
and
justification.
We
do
a
line
item,
resource
analysis
that
we
provide
to
council
and
we
do
that
for
each
office.
B
It
says
for
each
department,
board,
commission,
office
or
agency,
and
also
any
other
information,
graphs
and
charts
and
digested
information
that
we
may
think
that
council
might
find
useful
and
that
material
is
voluminous
voluminous.
You
see
our
accounting
people
come
in
with
hand,
trucks,
the
boxes
of
documents.
The
documents
are
so
great.
We
actually
provide
counsel
with
a
jump
drive
to
so
that
they
can
have
access
to
it.
Number
five
of
that
provision
which
goes
on
to
the
next
page
and
again.
B
B
That's
the
exclusive
and
original
jurisdiction
of
this
elected
body
of
10
council
mayor
10,
council
members,
and
so
they
take
the
mayor's
budget
as
a
proposal,
and
then
they
can
amend
it
in
any
way
they
see
fit,
and
they
do
they
do
after
weeks
of
of
hearings,
if
you
go
to
number
six
and
now
the
provision
that
has
caused
such
consternation,
this
is
section
8105
and
note
that
section
8105
is
not
listed
in
the
revenue
and
financial
administration
of
the
city.
It's
not
even
in
that
in
that
chapter
of
our
charter.
It's
just
some.
B
Services
which
receive
appropriations
from
the
council
shall,
prior
to
the
commencement
of
each
financial
year,
prepare
and
submit
to
the
city
manager,
annual
operating
and
capital
budget
request
for
the
ensuing
fiscal
year
and
what's
important
about
this
sentence
is
without
this
sentence.
No
elected
officer
and
no
agency
which
we
fund
would
have
to
participate
in
the
initial
budgetary
policy,
making
process
of
the
executive
of
the
jurisdiction.
B
They
would
just
show
up
at
city
council.
They
would
not
have
to
participate
in
the
recommended
or
proposed
budget,
but
this
sentence
requires
that
they
submit
and
participate
in
that
executive
budgetary
policy
making
process
by
submitting
their
budget
request
to
council
ed
to
to
the
city
manager.
Excuse
me
and
what's
important
about
this
language
is
sarah.
B
If
you
flip
over
to
number
seven
real,
quick
georgia
law
provides
what
a
budget
is
a
budget's,
a
very
specific
thing:
it
has
to
identify
what
your
revenues
are
and
and
what
your
expected
expenditures
are
and,
as
you
can
see,
georgia
law
mandates
exactly
what
a
budget
is.
So
if
you
go
back
to
to
number
six,
please
and
they're
not
mandated
to
submit
a
budget
they're
mandated
to
submit
budget
requests
and
the
word
request
is
not
defined
in
georgia
law.
B
So
when
you
don't
have
a
word
like
that,
that's
defined
you
look
it
up
in
webster's
dictionary.
Judges
are
very
resourceful
that
way,
and
the
word
request
means
to
ask.
So
it's
not
a
budget
dictate
it's
not
a
budget
mandate.
It's
not
a
budget
requirement.
It's
a
budget
request.
It's
an
ask.
It's
an
ask
and
sir,
if
you
go
to
number
eight
real,
quick,
we're
going
to
flip
back
to
six.
So
just
this
is
what
a
budget
request
looks
like.
B
It
doesn't
show
you
what
the
revenues
are.
It
doesn't
show
you
what
the
other
mandates
are.
It
doesn't
show
you
how
much
it
costs
to
pick
up
trash.
It
doesn't
show
you
how
much
it
costs
to
fund
the
fire
department.
It's
just
a
request.
This
is
a
budget
request
form
for
overtime,
so
it
couldn't
be
substituted
as
a
budget.
It's
not
a
budget,
it's
a
budget
request.
B
B
So
if
it
were
true
that
an
elected
official
could
mandate
or
dictate
what
their
budget
was
so
could
the
department
of
family
and
children
services
so
could
the
health
department
just
say,
hey,
look
the
state
of
georgia
cut
us
back.
We
need
12
million
dollars.
You
have
to
give
it
to
us.
If
that
sentence
was
to
be
read
as
the
litigants
contend
it
would,
we
would
have
to
give
to
the
department
of
health
and
and
the
department
of
children
family
services
exactly
what
they
asked
for
and
so
that's
to
be
noted.
B
The
next
senate,
such
budget
requests
ask
shall
be
incorporated
into
the
overall
consolidated
government
budget
for
submission
by
the
mayor
to
council.
Okay,
the
word
incorporated.
You
have
to
go
back
to
webster's
dictionary
and
the
litigants
have
said
that
the
word
incorporate
means
that
you
have
to
accept
it
in
total.
B
So
if
they
ask
for
eight
million
dollars,
just
that's
what
you
got
to
do,
but
it
says
incorporate
and
when
you
look
up
the
word
incorporate
it
means
to
combine
in
to
fold
in
to
synthesize
to
add
to
the
mix,
which
of
course,
makes
perfect
sense.
When
you
look
at
7401
and
all
the
things
we
have
to
do,
we
have
to
balance
against
revenue.
We
have
to
not
exceed
the
surplus.
B
We
have
to
fund
certain
things
by
state
mandate
by
our
own
mandates,
pension
funds,
things
of
that
nature,
and
so
these
ask
these
requests
must
be
incorporated
into
the
totality
of
the
consideration,
the
totality
of
all
the
overall
consolidated
government
budget
for
submission
to
mayor
and
council,
and
then
council
shall
grant
a
hearing
to
any
such
officer
or
agency,
including
defects
or
department
of
health
on
such
proposed
budget,
so
that
they
so
these
individuals.
These
departments
are
indeed
these
offices
are
indeed
heard.
B
So
if
you'd
flip
to
nine
there's
been
statements
that
never
before
in
the
history
of
columbus,
georgia
has
any
mayor
dared
to
not
give
them
exactly
what
they
asked
for.
B
So
if
you
look
at
fy,
8,
fyo
8,
of
course,
the
honorable
mayor,
jim
wetherington,
was
in
office
the
budget
request
when
totaled
up
by
our
finance
department
with
the
personnel
and
and
the
the
budgetary
requirements
of
that
office,
n08
was
1.87
million
dollars.
B
Mayor
jim
weatherington
proposed
1.14
million
dollars
and
council
council
appropriated
that
amount
of
money
and
09
it
was
2.345
million
dollars
that
was
requested
and
mayor
jim
wetherington
proposed
1.180
and
council
adopted
that
recommendation.
B
Then,
in
10
this
office
requested
2.609
million
mayor
jim
wetherington
provided
and
recommended
1.18
million
council
added
back
in
some
as
they
do
from
time
to
time
after
deliberation
and
the
adopted
budget
was
1.2,
fy
11
would
actually
have
been
mayor,
jim
wetherington's
budget
as
well.
The
office
requested
1.966.
B
Mayor
jim
weatherington
recommended
1.618
and
council
adopted
that
amount.
Then
you
go
into
what
would
be
my
first
year
in
office
that
office
demanded
3.25
million
dollars,
and
my
recommendation
to
council
was
1.725
more
than
the
prior
year.
More
than
mayor
wetherington
had
done
the
prior
year
and
council
reduced
it
a
bit
to
1.67
the
next
year,
fy
13
that
office
demanded.
One
point:
excuse
me
requested:
1.32
million
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
was
1.77
and
council
reduced
it.
A
bit
1.73
and
fy14
that
office
requested
1.9
million.
B
It
was
recommended,
1.58
million
and
council
adopted
that
amount
in
fy
15.
This
particular
office
chose
not
to
submit
a
budget
request
which,
by
the
way,
is
required
under
8
105.
As
you
remember,
each
elected
office
and
agency
shall
submit
a
budget
request.
They
chose
to
submit
nothing
which
violated
the
charter
and
it
was
recommended
1.592.
B
And
council
approved
a
little
bit
less
and,
of
course,
we're
in
the
middle
of
of
fy
16,
but
you
can
see
those
numbers
there.
We
have
these
numbers
for
each
of
the
offices,
they're
engaged
in
litigation
and
the
pattern
is
exactly
the
same.
B
Exactly
the
same,
so
it
is
not
true
to
say
it's
just
not
accurate
to
say
that
no
mayor
has
ever
proposed
less
than
was
requested
again.
That
is
combined
and
incorporated
those
requests
into
the
overall
consideration
of
the
budget
and
then
finally,
one
last
statement:
oh
okay!
Yes,
if
you
would
go
back
to,
I
believe,
fy10
pam
would
have
been
the
first
oh
last
year.
What
would
be
the
first
o
last
year,
where
we
appropriated
ola's
money
fy10?
B
B
The
mayor
mayor,
wetherington
recommended
1.18
and
council
adopted
1.26
okay,
and
we
have
these
available
for
anybody.
The
one
last
one
I
wanted
to
put
number
10,
because
it's
also
been
stated
that
the
city
is
running
up
these
costs
defending
themselves
in
this
litigation.
Well,
I
submit
that
once
somebody
files
litigation,
you
have
to
defend
yourself
unless
you're
going
to
just
say
that
people
get
what
they
request
and
that's
the
end
of
it,
which
is
not
the
law,
and
we
cannot
we.
We
cannot
concede
that.
B
B
It
was
in
it
was
recently
reported
this
claim.
The
claim
of
some
violation
of
8105
was
actually
made.
The
subject
of
a
particular
action
called
a
mandamus
action,
which
means
to
order
the
hand
to
require
somebody
to
do
something,
and
the
the
legal
action
was
stated
was
by
the
marshall
and
clerk
of
municipal
court
stated
that
the
mayor
violated
section
8105
and
requested
that
the
court
require
that
I
submit
their
budget
request
that
form
of
twenty
thousand
dollars.
You
saw
that
I
require
that.
B
I
I
just
put
that
in
the
budget
and
whole
and
and
not
what
section
741
required
me
to
do,
and
so
we
spent
a
couple
of
weeks
responding
to
document
requests
and
lawyers
looking
over
documents
and
making
sure
we
had
responded
to
sworn
interrogatories
and
sworn
requests
for
admissions,
and
we
propounded
our
own.
So
we
could
know
what
what
witnesses
are
you
going
to
have,
and
this
hearing
was
supposed
to
take
place
on
wednesday
and
thursday
of
last
week
june
3rd
and
4th
depositions
were
demanded
on
very
short
notice.
B
I
had
to
cancel
my
schedule.
The
city
managers
canceled
all
meetings,
the
finance
director
cancelled
all
meetings.
We
stood
ready
for
depositions,
we
cancelled
our
our
schedules
for
the
third
and
the
fourth
counselors
were
brought
in
over
after
hours
and
at
other
times
they
were
available
to
meet
with
our
lawyers
to
be
prepped
for
this
trial.
For
this
hearing,
all
of
that
cost
the
taxpayers
money
and
then
at
4
45
p.m.
B
On
friday,
before
the
hearing
was
to
begin
the
next
week,
we
received
an
email
copied
to
the
judge,
and
this
is
in
the
record
in
the
case
it's
been
filed,
and
this
is
from
the
council
for
that
particular
litigation,
and
it
says
something
remarkable.
It
says
after
communicating
at
length
with
my
clients,
they
have
decided
to
withdraw
the
motion
for
mandamus
relief
without
prejudice.
That
means
they're
going
to
drop
the
claim
that
the
mayor
violated
the
law
that
the
city
manager
violated
the
law,
the
finance
director,
violent
law
were
dropping.
B
That
claim-
and
they
say
we
began
this
battle-
the
litigation,
because
defendants
would
not
take
the
job,
the
jobs
these
officials
do
seriously,
and
it
goes
on
then
to
say
if
you
move
down
to
the
next
paragraph
of
the
red
marking.
Nonetheless,
given
the
amount
of
time
council
spent,
considering
the
budget
rather
than
rubber,
stamping
the
mayor's
submission
which
we
still
maintain,
did
not
comply
with
section
8105
of
the
columbus
charter
for
fy
15,
fy
16.
B
We
believe
we
accomplished
our
mission
to
get
the
council
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
operation
of
the
city
and
the
reasonable
funding
of
these
offices.
Okay,
one
thing
that's
important
is
that,
just
as
a
general
principle,
you
can't
file
a
lawsuit
to
harass
your
ex-wife.
You
can't
file
a
lawsuit
to
harass
your
neighbor.
B
You
file
a
lawsuit
when
there
is
a
legal
dispute
that
cannot
be
remedied
when
there
is
a
legal
dispute,
and
so
what
has
been
stated
here
is
that
the
lawsuit
was
filed
to
get
council's
attention
to
have
more
favorable
legislative
consideration
of
their
budget
request,
and
so
that,
indeed,
is
remarkable.
As
we
look
at
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
we've
spent
now
defending
four
litigants
three
lawsuits
preparing
for
trials
that
are
canceled
at
the
last
minute.
B
So
in
any
event,
that
is
an
overview.
These
documents,
of
course,
are
public
record
and
we'll
provide
them
to
anybody
that
that
wishes
to
see
them.
But
you
know
the
the
recipient,
for
the
teacher
said
teacher
of
the
year
award
said
that
we,
like
the
teachers,
inspire
the
community
to
say
we
can.
We
can
do
great
things
and
that's
what
we
do.
We
come
here
to
keep
the
process
legitimate.
B
We
need
to
take
that
very
seriously
and
I
appreciate
your
attention
as
we
walked
through
that
particular
statement,
because,
although
we
have
not
done
that
previously,
the
time
I
think
was
necessary
because
it
had
been
stated
so
many
times
without
public
retort,
and
we
can't
allow
u.s
citizens
to
think
that
we're
violating
the
law.
So
I
appreciate
your
patience,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
a
referral
council
or
woodson,
contacted
me
this
morning,
she's
actually
at
a
family
gathering.
B
B
I
just
wanted
to
run
through
these
are
councilor
woodson
had
asked
that
we
allow
council
that
we
report
to
council
regularly
about
expenditures
by
elected
officials
that
are
transfers
of
line
items
that
may
be
outside
the
mission,
because
it
is
a
lot
for
council
to
consider
all
of
that
information
during
the
budget
session,
because
there's
just
a
lot.
As
I
said,
a
thumb
drive
to
consider,
and
so
we
provided
exemplars
here
of
expenditures
that
were
transferred
from
salary
salaries,
leaving
positions
vacant
and
transferring
those
monies
for
a
lawnmower.
B
The
marshall's
office
bought
a
lawnmower
to
mow
the
lawn
up
at
the
gun
range
that
they
have
up
north
of
town
for
a
firing
range
storage
building
the
the
lawnmower
was
2849
dollars,
the
firing
range
storage
building
was
44,
136
dollars,
and
then
the
firing
range
surveillance
system
was
6935
and
those
were
transfers
of
salaries
from
vacant
held
positions.
B
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
type
of
expenditure
was
one
of
the
reasons
we
recommended
a
decrease
in
funding,
because
the
funds
are
being
transferred
for
things
outside
the
mission
of
the
office
and
council
can
consider
that,
however,
council,
once
the
money
is
appropriated,
council
can't
tell
an
elected
official
how
to
spend
it.
So
like
the
antique
popcorn
machine
that
was
bought
from
operating
funds,
that's
something
that
council
can't
stop
once
the
money's
been
appropriated.
B
That's
within
the
judgment
of
the
elected
official,
so
those
items
are
here
as
well
with
the
invoices
and
then
there
was
also
a
request
related
to
travel,
because
there
were
representations.
That
travel
was
only
seventeen
hundred
dollars
of
a
line
item,
and
that
may
be
the
line
item,
but
elected
official
can
transfer
monies
from
other
line
items
and
so
in
2013,
for
instance,
in
the
marshal's
office
monies
were
transferred,
so
the
total
travel
was
32
thousand
789.
B
And
then
to
date
in
fy
15,
of
course
the
invoices
are
coming
in.
It
was
it's
7
384
dollars
so
far,
but
we
haven't
completed
the
year
and
a
lot
of
times
those
invoices
lag.
So
that's
information
for
council's
consideration
and
then
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
a
transition.
Oh
councillor,
davis.
L
L
And
I
will,
but
you
know
I
want
to
go
back
to
some
of
the
comments
you
made
earlier
and
just
you
know
if
I
might
add
to
what
what
you
stated
and
just
looking
at
an
overall
observation
of
what
we
just
saw
and
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
and
the
concern
of
the
citizens,
no
city,
no
city
should
ever
be
subject
to
the
abuse
of
a
power
of
power
and
to
have
a
city,
handcuffed
or
shackled
or
burdened
from
the
standpoint
of
those
allegating.
L
An
open,
checkbook
would
bankrupt
would
simply
bankrupt
the
city,
and
everybody
knows
that
we're
in
tough
times
everybody
sees
the
transparency,
that's
online,
the
numbers
are
there,
the
the
numbers
are
there.
You
can
see
it
yourself.
You
can
see
where,
where
the
revenues
where
they're
coming
in
you
can
see
where
the
expenditures
are
going
out
and
and
for
department,
heads
or
elected
officials
to
be
an
incision
to
be
in
a
position
where
they're
making
them
in,
in
my
opinion,
irrational
spending
decisions,
it's
just
wrong.
L
It's
not
right,
and
you
know
there
has
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
day,
somebody's
going
to
have
to
give
a
definition
of
this,
because
you
just
can't
be
subject
a
city,
this
body,
the
administration,
future
leadership.
Future
bodies
that
will
be
governed
in
this
city
cannot
be
put
in
a
position
where
this
kind
of
decision-making
is
going
to
happen
every
year.
L
It's
very
abusive
and
it's
going
to
cost
the
city
a
lot
of
money
and
it's
got
to
stop
and
you
know
we
need
to
have
a
decision
on
these
matters
and,
what's
going
on,
it's
very
important,
and
I
think
the
citizens
want
this,
they
want
a
decision
made
and
they
want
to
see
some
finality
of
of
what's
going
on,
so
I
do
plan
to
address
this
from
a
standpoint.
I
did
not
know
this
when
we
went
through
questioning
department,
heads
and
elected
officials,
there's
new
stuff.
L
That
has
come
up
what
I
hear
in
the
community
what's
being
presented
in
the
community
and
projected
in
the
community.
Just
not
does
not
match
up
and,
and
the
only
way
that
you
can
manage
a
situation
like
this
is
to
ask
people
to
work
within
their
means
of
the
budget
that's
submitted
and
so
matter.
Madam
mayor,
I
thank
you
for
for
addressing
some
of
these
concerns
and,
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
this
up,
but
I
I
do
want
council
to
know
at
the
right
appropriate
time.
C
M
M
We
have
actually
had
several
changes
of
command
in
that
agency
over
the
past.
I
guess
seven
years
plus
that
I've
been
here.
You
know
I
think,
back
to
joe
riddle
was
here.
When
I
first
came,
it
moved
from
joe
to
an
interim
of
mark
mccollum
for
a
period
of
time,
then
amy
carbajal
was
hired
and
served
in
the
capacity
for
over
a
year
and
then
after
she
left
deputy
city
manager,
david
arrington
filled
the
void
during
the
interim
until
laura
mccool
came
on
just
recently
as
head
of
the
agency.
B
M
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Next
I'd
like
to
present
the
it's
really
a
combination
of
a
transition
and
operational
audit
of
the
information
technology
department,
you
may
recall
charles
tate,
the
director
long-term
director
retired
last
summer,
and
the
in
the
interim
city
manager
isaiah
hugely
oversaw
the
department
until
december,
when
dr
forrest
tolley
was
hired
in
taking
the
reins
of
the
department,
so
we
need
to
do
a
little
look-see
at
that
and,
let's
see
if
it's
going,
okay.
M
Obviously
we
know
they
have
computers,
not
not
only
the
big
computers
like
mainframes,
but
also
the
personal
computers
and
others,
the
portables
that
we
use
they're
responsible
for
the
telephones
and
the
cell
phone
services,
the
internet
intranet
systems
and
application
software
web
page
for
the
city,
online,
payment
systems,
access
controls
and
numerous
other
things.
But
those
are
some
of
the
major
items
and
you
know
we
want
to
look
at
it
in
light
of
the
transition
of
the
management.
M
M
M
Next,
we
look
for
the
strategic
plan.
We
did
not
really
find
one
to
be
in
place
at
that
at
that
particular
point
in
time
for
the
department,
so
a
written
strategic
plan
is
being
developed
and
by
doctor
towie
and
his
support
staff,
and
this
takes
us
in
a
really
kind
of
a
new
direction
for
the
department
we're
moving
from
a
mainframe
operating
environment
to
one
that's
going
to
be
a
server-based
environment,
and
I
think
dr
toey
has
discussed
that
in
his
budget
deliberations
and
some
of
his
earlier
discussions
with
the
council.
M
Moving
forward,
let's
look
at
some
new
and
different
skill
sets
that
will
be
required
from
staff
to
meet
the
strategic
plan
goals
because,
as
we
move
from
a
main
frame
environment
to
a
server
based,
it
requires
different
skill
sets,
and
so
there
will
be
necessary
for
some
people
to
be
retrained.
As
we
move
in
that
direction,
there
will
also
be
a
need
to
probably
hire
someone,
that's
experienced
and
qualified
to
develop
that
network
and
implement
the
server
based
system.
M
The
two
major
costs
that
we'd
have
involved
would
be
one
building
the
fiber
network
and,
of
course
the
servers
are
fairly
minor
compared
to
mainframe
equipment,
but
you've
got
to
have
a
technician
that
can
drive
this
process
and
develop
it
out,
and
it's
an
ongoing
thing.
So
you
don't
want
to
hire
consultants.
M
Dr
tully
shared
with
me
just
this
morning
that
he
had
to
have
some
consultants
in
of
this
nature.
Last
week
to
earlier
this
week,
I
guess
last
week
to
to
work
on
the
installation
of
some
of
the
things
that
they're
now
doing
moving
forward
to
bring
up
the
ias
world
system,
and
you
know
he
had
four
technicians
that
went
here
approximately
20
hours
last
week
and
it
cost
almost
fifty
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
that's!
M
Pennywise
and
pound
food
is
to
spend
money
like
that
on
consultants,
when
you
can
hire
one,
you
know
for
some
50
65
70
000
a
year,
including
benefits
and
get
them
in
here,
and
we
don't
have
to
have
this
person
going
forward.
So
that's
going
to
be
something
that
has
to
be
considered
and
looked
at
otherwise
we're
going
to
spend
an
awful
lot
of
money
on
consultants
over
the
next
few
years.
M
Next
area
we
looked
at,
we
did
a
payroll
audit,
as
we
normally
do
with
transition
audit.
We
did
find
that
all
paid
employees
were
classified
and
actively
at
work
and
we
certainly
checked
their
ids
and
everything
make
sure
they
were
who
they
said.
They
were.
We
also
looked
at
the
pay
rates
and
verified
that
they
were
being
paid
at
the
proper
rate.
So
there
were
no
findings
in
that
particular
area
system
vulnerability.
M
M
So
some
intermediate
steps
have
already
been
taken
to
strengthen
passwords,
make
them
a
bit
longer
and
more
complex,
and
also
we're
moving
toward
an
encrypted
password
system
and
a
limitation
on
the
number
of
people,
even
in
the
I
t
department
that
have
access
to
all
the
passwords
in
the
past.
These
things
were
actually
out
there
in
plain
english
and
quite
available
for
anyone
that
had
access
to
those
systems.
M
Future
steps,
we're
gonna,
need
to
do
some
penetration
testing,
both
internal
and
external.
This
is
something
that
forest
is
going
to
need
to
probably
use
a
consultant
for
about
a
week
to
do
that.
As
well,
we
need
to
find
out
just
how
vulnerable
they
are
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
how
easy
it
is
to
penetrate
going
forward.
M
Looking
further
at
a
few
other
things,
I
want
to
touch
on
software
licensing.
The
good
news
is
that
we
were
compliant
with
or
relatively
compliant
with,
most
of
our
software
that
we
had
licensed
by
the
city.
As
you
know,
we
had
one
area
that
we
did
not
have
full
compliance,
and
that
was
the
microsoft
contract,
which
actually
had
just
been
kind
of
dropped
a
few
years
back
and
not
renewed.
M
M
A
normal
process
when
contracts
are
being
entered
into
or
up
for
renewal
is
that
they
are
droughted
around
to
all
the
affected
parties.
They
reviewed
from
the
executive
level
at
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager,
the
city
attorney's
office,
normally
reviews
them
as
the
form
and
generally
the
finance
officer,
as
well
as
the
department
that
this
software
would
work
with.
In
this
case,
information
technology
technology.
M
They
review
it
to
make
sure
that
the
provisions
in
the
contract
need
to
be
the
services
or
the
equipment
wherever
they're
contracting
for
and
likewise
they
look
at
to
make
sure
that
the
terms
are
not
too
onerous,
because
if
you
just
take
a
contract,
that's
handed
to
you
by
a
major
corporation
where
they're
selling
you
something
and
you
don't
look
it
over
and
review
it
and
demand
some
changes.
M
It's
going
to
be
written
in
their
favor.
They
hire
very,
very
good
and
expensive
attorneys
to
make
sure
that
they're
well
protected.
So
we
found
some
of
those
to
be
the
case
and
what
had
actually
been
happening
for
a
number
of
years
was
instead
of
the
contracts
from
I.t
coming
through
the
council
for
review
and
approval.
M
There
were
also
some
instances
where,
since
contracts
never
came
to
you,
likewise,
they
weren't
necessarily
signed
by
the
officials
that
are
authorized
to
sign
contracts.
The
mayor
by
the
charters
granted
that
as
the
chief
executive
officer
and
the
city
manager
as
the
chief
administrative
officer,
is
granted
that
privilege,
when,
when
the
council,
approves
and
authorizes
that
to
be
done,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
in
that
vein
as
well
and
keeping
things
in
proper
notes.
M
The
next
area
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
going
to
be
the
wireless
phones
one.
We
found
that
there
was
insufficient
compliance
in
control
of
cell
phones
or
wireless
phones.
The
current
usage.
We
have
approximately
600
of
these
phones
that
are
currently
issued
in
the
monthly
bill
is
in
excess
of
22
000.
M
Certainly
these
phones
are
a
piece
of
technology.
Probably
each
of
you
have
one
in
your
pocket
or
right
on
your
desk
at
the
moment,
but
and
we
don't
certainly
don't
intend
to
suggest
that
we
don't
have
those
or
provide
those
to
our
employees
because
they
do
improve
productivity,
but
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
we
monitor
them
and
that
they're
properly
authorized
and
approved
as
such.
M
We're
recommending-
and
dr
tolle
has
agreed
to
this-
to
do
a
physical
inventory
of
all
these
phones
over
the
next
month
or
so,
and
they're
also
going
to
look
at
what
their
uses
are
and
verify
the
need,
and
if
we
find
any
that
are
not
being
used
or
we
find
any
lines
that
are
not
active,
we're
going
to
have
those
turned
off
so
that
we
will
save
some
some
cost
in
that
area
as
well.
M
M
We've
actually
had
two
different
networks:
they
reach
out
to
many
of
our
locations,
but
not
to
all
the
fiber.
The
uses
of
them
are
primarily
to
get
telephones
out
there
to
it
or
that
capability,
internet
or
intranet
and
television
for
the
locations
that
currently
are
not
attached
to
the
fiber
they're
using
individual
contracts
to
provide
those
services
out
there
sometimes
they're
quite
more
expensive
than
what
we
could
do,
pushing
it
out
from
a
central
thing
over
a
city-wide
network.
M
These
lease
fiber
optic
networks
are
expensive
and
it's
an
ongoing
cost
because
you're
renting
it's
kind
of
like
renting
a
house,
an
apartment.
You
continue
to
pay
rent
for
as
long
as
you
use
it
and
when
you
end
the
term
you
walk
away
and
you
don't
have
anything
left.
M
Essentially,
as
dr
tolle
explained
in
the
department
head
meeting
last
month,
he
could
do
the
same
thing
he
did
when
he
was
at
the
school
district
and
he
would
have
one
subscription
for
the
internet,
and
we
would
pick
the
challenges,
probably
about
10,
that
we
need
to
have
that
are
educational,
the
government
channel
and
so
forth,
and
he
can
push
that
out
over
that
cable
to
all
those
locations.
They
did
it
in
the
school
district.
M
B
F
L
Are
you
finished
with
your
reports,
mr
rhythm?
Yes,.
L
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
I
know
in
in
line
with
some
of
the
things
that
the
mayor
was
talking
about
earlier.
Some
of
the
comments
made
I
just
for
clarification
for
the
sake
of
the
citizenry
you've
already
audited
the
civic
center
correct.
M
Is
continuing
but
joan's
working
on
it
should
complete
it.
L
L
M
Departmental
audits-
we've
probably
done
about
a
dozen
at
this
point-
councillor
davis.
We
generally
try
to
do
about
two
two
per
year
and
depends
on
the
size
on
one
like
parks
and
recreation
or
public
works
or
police
department
or
fire
ems.
Those
take
a
lot
longer
than
it
does
an
administrative
department
or
one
of
the
smaller
departments.
M
M
There's
been
a
lot
of
special
types
of
projects
as
well
and
and
then
there's
some
one-time
payroll
arts.
We've
done
some
of
vendors.
You
may
recall
we
did
some
with
our
towing
and
recovery
service
and
were
able
to
recover
some
monies
that
had
not
been
paid
to
the
city,
but
were
owed,
got
them
on
the
right
track
and
after
a
couple
years
they
had
performed
very
well
since
then
so.
L
M
M
Cities
well
at
least
probably
a
half
a
dozen
companies
and
four
governmental
agencies,
one
state
quasi
agency
and
three
city
of
city,
county
governments,.
M
M
M
M
Do
they
look
at
every
transaction?
Certainly
not
neither
could
I
for
that
matter
and
they
have
10
people
on
the
audit
that
come
over
here
pam.
I
think
that's
about
correct
and
they
do
a
good
job
with
that.
There's
not
a
lot
to
be
found.
Looking
at
that.
M
You've
got
to
look
at
the
processes.
You've
got
to
look
at
the
controls
that
are
in
place
to
make
sure
and
remember.
Controls
are
just
something
that
are
to
make
sure
that
what
the
management
wants
to
be
done
happens
if
the
manager
is
not
there
supervising
it
constantly,
because
we've
got
some
department
heads
that
manage
extremely
large
operations,
like
ms
biegler,
the
police
chief,
the
sheriff
you
know
the
fire
ems
chief.
Those
people
can't
possibly
be
out
there
supervising
hundreds
of
employees
personally
ongoing.
M
So
what
they
have
to
have
is
policies
and
procedures
with
controls
built
in
that
causes,
what
they
want
to
do
to
happen,
and
that's
a
prime
example
of
what
happened
really
in
years
past
at
the
landfill
is
that
those
controls
were
kind
of
negated
during
the
period
when
there
was
not
an
altar
and
by
the
time
it
was
caught.
There
was
a
lot
of
severe
financial
damage
done
to
the
city,
several
million
dollars.
M
Audit
in
an
external
audit,
there
is
there's
a
big
difference.
You
look
at
different
things.
Remember
the
external
auditors
that
do
the
financial
audits,
they're,
primarily
providing
assurance
to
the
public
and
to
any
lenders
that
we
might
have
that
that
our
finances
are
as
represented
and
and
prepared
by
the
internal
staff
and
really
those
those
financial
statements
are
not
of
the
the
altar
they
are
of
the
staff
and
the
finance
director
and
the
accounting
manager.
Those
are
the
people
that
prepare
those
and
it's
really
their
statements.
M
And
we've
been
fairly
successful
in
unearthing
some
and
remedying
it
and
getting
it
fixed.
Here
I
mean
you
may
remember
in
the
early
years
that
I
was
here,
we
had
several
things
that
were
unpleasant
to
deal
with,
but
we've
worked
through
them
in
their.
In
every
case,
we
have
moved
from
something
less
to
something,
far
greater.
M
Look
at
the
accolades
that
our
parks
and
recreation
department
has
earned
over
the
last
few
years,
and
they
literally
rebuilt
that
almost
out
of
the
ashes,
because
there
was
so
much
damage
done
to
that
department
as
we
cleaned
it
up
and
inverted
through
it
and
the
police
did.
But
today
we
have
one
that
we
can
be
proud
of.
They
have
a
stellar
reputation
in
the
state
in
the
nation
and
that's
that's
the
goal
of
it.
It's
not
it's
not
to
catch
people,
doing
things
wrong.
We
can
catch
people,
everybody
makes
mistakes.
L
B
Thank
you
and
appreciate
john
everything
that
you
and
joan
do,
and
next
we
have
the
minutes
of
the
may
26th
meeting
of
the
columbus
city
council
for
your
review.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
them
in
a
second
any
changes,
corrections,
errors,
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
state!
I
are
there
any
opposed
all
right
and
with
that,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
city
attorney
for
his
agenda.
Mr
phelps.
H
H
This
is
going
from
a
residential
estate
to
single
family
three
and
a
residential
office.
Mr
mize
is
here
for
the
applicant
proposed
use
of
single-family
residential
and
office.
It's
recommended
for
approval.
There
are
certain
conditions
in
the
ordinance
that
apply
to
property,
I
believe
bordering
on
turtle
creek.
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
H
O
B
O
O
The
conditions
that
were
passed
and
attached
to
the
pac
pac
meeting
were
the
correct
conditions.
The
one
in
the
staff
report
needs
a
little
bit
of
tweaking
and
I
have
copies
of
the
of
the
the
ones
that
we've
agreed
to
with
the
residents
would
like
to
give
these
to
clifton,
for,
if
we're
fortunate
enough
to
you
know
to
to
have
the
rezoning
approve
that
they
would
be
incorporated
into
the
amended
ordinance.
So
if
I
could
give
these
to
clip.
O
Again,
not
knowing
what
his
comments
are
going
to
be
and
I'm
happy
to
to
for
him
to
come
up
and
do
whatever.
But
I
don't
want
to
get
out
of
order
or
do
anything
that
would
be
improv.
B
I
think
it's
proper
for
the
gentleman
to
make
a
statement,
mr
city
attorney
and
then
and
then
mr
mize
can
respond.
H
That's
fine
and
we
will
also
need
a
motion
to
get
these
new
tweaked
conditions
put
into
the
ordinance
as
an
amendment.
So,
okay.
I
B
P
Thank
you,
mayor
I'd.
I
would,
I
think
it
might
be
good
for
you
to
go
over
the
conditions
first,
and
let
us
hear
that
and
then
that
may
help
this
gentleman
as
well,
but
I
know
mr
mize
has
met
several
times
with
the
neighbors
I've
heard
from
some
neighbors
and
I
think
everything's
been
resolved
and
worked
out,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
what
amendments
are
before
we
we've.
O
Had
numerous
meetings
with
residents
from
turtle
creek
as
well
as
woodmark
subdivision
and
I've
answered,
many
calls
on
the
on
the
phone
and
things
like
that,
maybe
to
get
an
idea
of
the
conditions
and
how
they
apply,
and
I
really
hate
again
to
add
to
your
time
I'm
going
to
pass
out
these
booklets
and
if
y'all
will
turn
to
the
the
tab
mark
site
plan.
That'll.
Give
you
an
idea
about
the
condition,
because
I
think
that's
really.
All
we've
got
to
talk
about.
O
Again,
these
five
conditions
have
been
have
been
worked
through
with
with
numerous
residents
and
they
applied
we're
asking
you
to
rezone
two
two
tracks
of
land.
One
is
a
four
acre
track,
which
you
can
see
in
the
northwest
corner
of
this
site
plan.
You
can
see
the
smaller
lights,
we're
asking
to
rezone
that
from
re1
to
sfr3,
which
is
the
exact
same
zoning
classification
as
turtle
creek
is
on.
O
So
I'm
not
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
the
four
acres,
but
the
other
tract
of
land
that
we're
trying
to
rezone
is
19.03
acres
and
those
are
the
larger
lots
that
you
see
on
the
site
plan.
Okay,
the
conditions
relate
only
to
the
19.03
acre
tract.
The
conditions
are
five
conditions.
The
first
three
relate
to
the
land.
That's
designated
on
this
site
plant
is
lots
one
two
and
three.
These
are
the.
This
is
the
land
that
borders
turtle,
creek
lots
that
are
currently
fronting
pine
branch
circle
and
turtle
creek
court.
O
That
is
the
distinction
in
the
the
conditions
that
we
thought
were
important.
It
only
affects
those
three
lots,
because
once
the
four
acres
is
incorporated
into
the
turtle
creek
and
that
becomes
turtle,
creek
and
those
conditions
would
then
affect
lot
four,
and
we
don't
want
that
to
happen,
and
that's
not
the
intent
of
the
conditions
and
agreements
we
had
with
the
residents,
but
anyway,
with
respect
the
first
three
conditions
relate
solely
to
those
that
track.
O
Those
tracks
of
land
that
are
designated
on
the
site
plan
is
one
two
and
three
we've
agreed
to
limit
the
building
height
to
one
story:
there'd
be
one
building
per
lot
and
a
maximum
of
four
lights
in
that
track
of
length.
That
relates
just
to
the
lots.
One
two
and
three
there
with
respect
to
the
entire
19
acres,
we've
agreed
to
no
motel
and
no
hotel
with
respect
to
the
full
19
acres,
we've
agreed
to
no
traditional
garden
style
apartments.
These
are
departments
similar
to
what
mr
will
develops
now.
O
The
greystone
communities
we've
agreed
not
to
place
apartment,
your
garden
style
apartments
on
any
portion
of
the
19
acres,
but
to
be
clear
that
wouldn't
prevent
a
development
where
you
have
multiple
residents
that
pay
rent
such
as
an
assisted
living
facility.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here,
we
just
agreed
not
to
do
apartments,
traditional
apartments,
any
questions
about
any
of
those
conditions.
Q
Please,
sir,
good
morning,
my
name
is
david
edenfield
and
I
live
at
248
pine
branch
circle.
I
live
there
with
my
my
wife
and
two
daughters,
so
I'm
lot
21
on
the
site
map
there,
so
I
would
be
backing
up
to
the
rezoning
the
office
development
so
just
to
be
clear.
I'm
not
here
representing
the
turtle
creek
homeowners
association,
who
would
like
to
provide
just
a
little
background
information
of
our
reaction
to
the
rezoning.
Q
Q
Q
So
there's
no
doubt
that
mr
white
will
build
a
quality
professional
nice.
Looking
development
he's
proven
this
many
times
throughout
the
city.
My
question
has
never
been
about
the
quality
of
the
development.
My
concern
has
always
been
about
the
buffer,
the
effect
it
will
have
on
my
family's
backyard
activities
and
what
it
will
look
like
from
my
backyard.
Q
Q
Q
C
J
I
would
like
for
someone
to
speak
to
okay.
If
someone
can
speak
to
that
issue,
I
did
want
to
make
a
motion,
though,
whenever
we
get
it.
B
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
gonna
turn
yours
off.
If
you
want
to
put
it
back
on
I'll,
get
you
in
queue
and
mr
mice,
would
you
like
to
respond
to
that?
Then
I
have.
I.
O
Would
and
I've
just
talked
to
will
we
have
no
intention
of
putting
the
fence
back
there,
so
I
underst,
I
understand
a
type
c
buffer.
You've
got
three
options:
you've
got
a
10
foot
buffer
with
a
with
an
opaque
fencing
six
to
eight
feet,
something
like
that
number
two
you've
got
a
20
foot
buffer
with
certain
plantings
and
number
three
is
a
30-foot
natural
buffer.
Okay,
what
let
me
just
tell
you
what
will
plans
to
do?
If
you
look
on
the
site
plan,
you
see
the
50-foot
stream
bucket.
O
Well,
that's
about
twice
as
big
as
what
the
state
requires
is
my
understanding
and
will
has
already
reached
out
to
the
engineering
department,
and
this
is
what
we
agreed
with
the
residents
to
do
he's
reached
out
to
your
engineering
department
and
he's
going
to
request
a
reduction
in
the
stream
buffer
from
50
feet
down
to
25
feet.
The
sole
purpose
of
that
request
is
to
be
able
to
shift
that
development
a
bit
to
the
south,
thereby
increasing
the
the
width
of
the
buffer
between
the
development
and
the
turtle.
Creek
lots
with
david
here
lot.
O
21
will
benefit
directly
from
that
shift.
If
we
can
get
approval
from
the
engineering
department
to
do
that,
the
intent
now
is
not
to
put
a
10
foot
buffer
with
an
opaque
fencing,
we're
either
going
to
choose
a
20-foot
buffer
with
plantings
or
we're
going
to
go
with
the
natural
buffer
and
the
hope
and
our
desire
is
to
shift
everything
a
bit
to
the
south
and
increase
the
size
of
that
buffer.
The
only
one
that
may
not
benefit
from
that
is
the
ones
that
are
just
north
of
lot.
O
One
is
shown
on
that
site
plan
just
because
there's
no
stream
there
so
there's
no
way
to
really
shift
it
to
the
south,
but
we
have
already
got
that
in
the
works
will
has
already
reached
out
to
the
engineering
department
and
that's
hopefully
underway
so
that'll,
hopefully
address
mr
enfield's
concern.
P
O
P
O
There's
more
than
30
feet
gary
right
now,
but
depending
on
how
it's
developed,
we
will
certainly
stay
within.
It
will
not
be
less
than
what
obviously
the
buffer
ordinance
requires,
but
the
intent
is
to
try
and
increase
that
bubble.
Now
you
know
if
we,
I
don't
know
that
you
want
us
to
within
the
30-foot
natural
buffer,
go
in
and
place
a
berm
because
then
you
then
you
destroy.
P
Them
yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
I
guess
what
triggered
it
was.
I
was
looking
at
the
diagram
of
the
building
and
then
the
parking
lot
behind
it
and
as
cars
pull
in
and
park
behind
it.
If
there
are
any
headlights
depending
on
the
time
of
day,
then
that
may
get
into
him.
If
it's
a
dense
buffer,
then
that
would
hopefully
alleviate
that.
O
And
the
parking
lot
may
not
be
configured
the
way
moon
meets.
Has
it
drawn
on
here,
but
keep
in
mind
too.
If
we
just
develop
this
exactly
the
way
turtle
creek
has
developed
sfr3,
there
would
be
no
buffering
requirements
right
instead
of
putting
one
building
per
lot
and
a
maximum
of
four
buildings
on
this,
this
border,
we
could
go
in
and
put
three
four
five
six
houses
on
each
one
of
those
lots
without
any
buffering.
O
This
this
by
far,
is
the
best
way
to
use
this
property,
for
these
residents
is
because
it's
required
buffering
is
required.
If
we
went
in
and
put
in
an
sfr3
zoning,
we
could
go
in
with
much
more
dense
development
without
buffering.
So
you
know
from
our
perspective
and
apparently
pretty
much
all
of
the
residents
agreed
with
us.
This
is
by
far
the
best
way
to
develop
this
problem
for
them.
Okay,.
P
I
H
L
Somewhere,
you
know
my
experience
with
mr
white.
Our
experience
with
mr
white
has
always
been
that
he's
been
reasonable
and
willing
to
work
with
with
folks
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
general
area,
and
I
think
he'll
continue
to
do
that
if
there's
even
requests
along
the
way,
I
just
I've
I've
seen
his
his
style
and
his
approach
and
he's
he's
always
tried
to
do
that.
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
he
wouldn't
hear
mr
mize,
and
I
think
you
would
you
would
agree
when
I
look
at
this
development.
L
O
Well-
and
you
know
he
owns
the
terraces-
that's
a
really
nice
development.
He
owns.
He
owns
a
building
in
river
park
and
that
may
be
the
style
he's
looking
at.
Maybe
something
like
a
river
park.
We've
not
developed
any
any
elevations
or
anything
like
that,
but
you're
right
glenn,
it's
going
to
be
upscale.
It's
going
to
be
very.
L
And
it
can,
you
know
it
seems
like
it
can
coexist,
but
I
I
do
know
that
you've
got
a
you've
got
a
good
developer
there
that
you
can
work
with.
I
think
everybody
concurs
with
with
that
and,
like
I
said,
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
he
wouldn't
continue
to
to
work
with
the
residents
in
this
case
and
and
minimize
any
kind
of
impact,
or
especially
when
it
comes
to
green
space
and
buffers,
and
things
like
that.
Q
Intent
was
never
to
question
mr
white's
reputation
around
town,
I
mean
he's
definitely
been
a
good
neighbor.
He's
worked
with,
has
been
willing
to
work
with
us
as
far
as
doing
the
conditions,
and-
and
we
appreciate
that
so
my
concern
was
just
a
ten
foot.
You
know
so
thank
you.
J
Mayor,
I
moved
the
conditions
to
rezoning
as
presented
this
morning.
F
B
C
F
H
F
F
Okay,
all
right
counselor,
henderson,.
R
Yeah
just
for
clarification,
mr
city
attorney.
There's
there
were
some
conditions
substituted.
How
are
they
different
from
what's
on
our
ecap,
because
it
sounds
to
me
based
on
what
mr
white
said,
that
they're
identical.
H
R
O
And
when
the
first,
when
the
first
staff
report
came
out,
the
pack,
I
asked
kevin
to
correct
that
and
then,
when
the
second
one
came
out,
I
emailed
kevin
and
said
we
need
to
you,
know,
get
it
corrected
and
kevin
said.
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that:
okay,
the
ones
that
clifton
has
are
the
ones
that
we
have
maintained
throughout
the
entire
process.
O
R
H
There
are
only
a
couple
of
words
that
have
been
added,
but
let's
read
them
into
the
record
condition
number
one.
This
is
for
the
19.03
acre
tract
only
number
one
limit
to
single
story.
We
will
limit
the
height
of
the
buildings
to
be
located
on
the
lots
that
border
the
turtle.
Creek
lots
that
front
pine
branch
circle
and
turtle
creek
court
to
a
single
story
number
two
limit
to
one
building
per
lot.
We
will
limit
the
development
to
one
building
per
lot
for
the
lots
that
will
border
the
turtle.
H
Creek
lots
that
front
pine
branch
circle
and
turtle
creek
court
number
three,
no
more
than
four
lots.
We
will
agree
to
limit
the
number
of
lots
that
border
the
turtle.
Creek,
lots
that
front
pine
branch
circle
and
turtle
creek
court
to
no
more
than
four
lots:
number
four:
no
hotel
motel.
We
have
agreed
that
no
motel
or
hotel
will
be
constructed
on
any
part
of
the
property
and
five
no
apartments.
We
have
agreed
that
no
traditional
garden
style
apartments
will
be
constructed
on
any
part
of
the
property.
H
H
All
right
that
concludes
that
zoning
hearing
next
hearing
we've
got
is
property
located
at
78,
22
and
78
38
lloyd,
road
going
from
single
family
residential
1
to
single
family
4,
with
a
45
foot,
lot
width
variance,
it's
a
petitioner
here
this
morning,
mr
lane
fit
present
all
right.
Is
anybody
here
opposed
or
wants
to
come
in
on
the
zoning.
L
S
S
A
H
F
All
right
we
have
the
city
manager.
U
U
I
did
call
the
budget
chair
yesterday
to
speak
with
him
and
and
share
with
him
my
concern
that
we
did
not
get
included
in
the
proposed
budget.
The
network
engineer
for
our
information
technology
department
and-
and
so
I've
asked
the
I.t
director
for
us
totally
to
make
one
last
effort
to.
U
Encourage
counsel
and
and
share
with
council
answer
additional
questions
from
council
to
see
if
we
can
get
approved
the
network,
engineer
position
and
let
me
just
say
in
asking
him
to
come
forward
that
I
do
applaud
counselor
thomas.
I
know
this
is
a
position
that
she
had
on
the
at
the
leaf
list
and
she
is
concerned,
as
I
am
concerned,
about
increasing
the
number
of
employees
we
have
on
city
payroll.
U
But
you
know
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
our
information
technology
department
and
throughout
the
city
in
terms
of
trying
to
move
from
a
mainframe
system
to
a
server
and-
and
I
really
want
to
express
my
appreciation
to
the
internal
auditor
john
redman,
who
spoke
briefly
about
information
technology
and
the
mainframe
versus
server
system
and
the
need
for
a
network
engineer,
and
he
shared
briefly.
What
we
spent
just
last
week,
for
example,
on
consultants
and
coming
in
and
consultants
are
very
expensive
and
much
of
consultant
calls
can
be
eliminated
with
in-house
staff.
U
U
I
had
a
conversation
with
deputy
city
manager
of
finance
planning
and
development,
our
former
finance
director
pam
hodge,
and
wanted
her
to
talk
with
rit
director
about
the
savings
that
would
we
would
net
from
having
a
and
a
network
engineer
on
staff,
and
so
with
that
said,
I'm
going
to
ask
director
tolle
to
come
forward
and
and
then
he'll
be
prepared
to
answer
any
questions,
as
will
our
deputy
city
manager
of
finance
about
the
savings
and
how
that
might
help
defray
the
cost
of
adding
the
network
engineering.
U
Council
thomas,
I
promise
you,
I
don't
want
to
add,
not
one
additional
employee.
I
think,
as
I
remember,
your
question
was
if
we
have
3
000
employees
on
the
payroll
and
it's
going
to
make
it
3001,
you
oppose
it,
and-
and-
and
I
certainly
understand
that
I
get
that,
but
this
is
critical
and
we
wanted
to
make
one
last
attempt
to
sail
this
position.
So
with
that
director
told
me.
V
Madame
mister
city
manager,
council,
I
come
to
you
today
to
kind
of
explain
again
why
I
think
it
was
my
top
priority
for
a
network
engineering
position.
V
First,
I
start
with
the
picture
that
we
really
basically
have
people
that
can
do
each
of
these
little
groups,
but
I
don't
have
anyone
that
can
do
the
whole
picture,
so
I
don't
have
anyone
that
can
go
everything
from
internet
to
virtualization,
to
the
desktops,
to
the
ip
phones,
to
the
wireless
to
to
the
whole
gamut,
and
that's
really
what
your
engineer
would
be
able
to
do
on
the
screen.
Here
we
have
just
several
machines,
but
the
city
actually
has
thousands
hundreds
of
servers,
thousands
of
devices.
V
In
staffing
we've
gone
over
some
of
this
before
the
current
staffing
was
designed
around
mainframe.
We
have
growing
emphasis.
If
you
heard
on
server
and
web-based
systems,
we
have
one
person
that
supports
the
network
and
that
staff
member
has
no
formal
training
on
the
current
technologies,
so
the
training
that
they
have
is
on
what
we
have
had,
not
what
we
have
moving
forward.
V
Currently,
we
pay
around
150
to
over
700
an
hour
for
network
engineering
services
when
we
need
the
services
and
the
new
position
would
save
money
over
time
and
what
I
kind
of
was
troubling
me
is
like
I've
heard
kind
of
say.
Well,
what
do
you
exchange
for
the
position
last
week,
our
rms
and
ias
world,
which
we
spent
or
we
will
be
spending
around
thousand
dollars
for
what
a
network
engineer
would
do
for
that
one
project,
but
it
saves
the
I.t
budget,
no
money.
V
What
it
saves
is
or
what
it
would
save
is
the
rms
and
the
is
world,
and
I
kept
seeing
that
when
I
get
savings,
I
really
don't.
I
don't
get
the
savings
when
I
save
on
the
internet
services
that
really
saves
the
the
fire
and
public
safety.
So
I
was
kind
of
saying,
oh,
how
am
I
going
to
get
money
out
of
my
budget
when,
really
you
know
the
four
thousand
dollars
I
save
here
and
the
eight
thousand
dollars?
V
V
I
can't
control
really
what
hardware
calls,
but
I
can
mitigate
what
my
staff
cost
and,
like
I
said,
I
was
kind
of
concerned
because
the
net
savings
comes
to
the
city.
It
doesn't
come
directly
to
me
my
I.t
services,
although
I
do
pay
out
of
my
budget-
probably
two
hundred
fifty
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
network,
engineer
type
person
to
come
in
as
many
people
that
come
in
to
do
that
service.
V
Why
I
couldn't
do
what
you
asked,
which
is
here's
the
money
for
this
position,
because
it's
really
I'm
spending
other
people's
money
and
which
is
really
the
city's
money
you
can
see
on
the
org
chart.
The
one
position
I
really
need
is
the
network
engineer
I
wanted
to
go
through.
The
current
active
projects
is
world
which
we
talked
about
rms
the
record
management.
V
This
past
week,
we've
obligated
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
a
network
engineering
type
people,
people
that
do
the
cisco
people
who
do
the
ibm,
blades
and
the
storage,
and
but
that's
not
out
of
quote.
I
t
budget,
that's
actually
out
of
rms
iaas
world.
So
I
don't
recoup
the
money
for
myself,
but
I
recoup
the
money
for
the
city
in
general.
V
We
also
have
e-ticket
our
core
switch
replacement,
our
voice
over
ip
upgrade.
That's
the
phones-
and
you
saw
that
with
the
phone
savings
that
it's
estimated,
that
that
that
cost
is
in
the
almost
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
that
we
can
mitigate
a
lot
of
those
costs
and,
of
course,
that's
over
several
years
as
contracts
run
out,
but
in
each
given
year
you
would
be
saving
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
If
we
can
get
this,
these
different
things
upgraded.
V
You
heard
in
the
audits
that
we
have
backups
that
we
have
backups
that
go
to
tape,
but
what
we
do
not
have
is
a
disaster
recovery
solution
which
would
allow
the
data
center
to
be
destroyed
and
operations
to
continue,
and
that's
really
what
you
need
a
network
engineer
and
your
cloud
computing
solutions
to
do
some
vendors
provide
it
most
vendors
do
not
so
that's
one
thing
that
we
would
actually
lose
without
having
a
network
engineer.
Is
you
lose
the
ability
to
do
disaster
recovery?
V
You
don't
lose
the
ability
to
do
backups
we
back
up
now.
In
other
words,
we
take
stuff
and
we
copy
it.
We
put
it
on
tape
and
we
store
it
off-site.
But
then,
if
something
happens
to
our
actual
data
center,
there's
nothing
to
actually
copy
it
back
to
to
make
it
work.
So
we
really
need
the
network
type
person.
The
person
knows
soup
to
nuts
to
be
able
to
actually
mitigate
our
risk
on
disaster
recovery.
V
So
if
we're
down,
we
can
actually
get
back
up
within
a
matter
of
days,
not
months
and
we
can
actually
move
forward.
I
can
say
we
do
all
of
the
things
that
we
can
without
that
position,
but
we
really
don't
have
that
position
at
all
and
it
wasn't
needed
really
before
ias,
world
and
rms
came
into
being.
V
You
could
have
used
it,
but
but
you
said
needed
now:
it's
really
needed
and
as
we
move
some
other
things
like
our
network
security
and
controls,
you
can't
really
have
network
security
and
controls.
Unless
you
have
a
network
engineer
that
actually
oversees
the
network
controls
the
microsoft
office
and
windows
upgrades
the
way
we
do
things
now.
V
Is
we
actually
go
to
every
machine
and
we
have
to
work
each
machine
one
at
a
time
with
a
network
engineer
we
can
make
these
upgrades
really
remote
saves
a
lot
of
time,
energy
and
money
to
put
a
data
center
stability,
and
you
heard
the
auditor
18
months.
We
would
be
in
a
position
to
to
show
a
vast
improvement,
but
we
want
it
stable.
We
want
the
all
our
systems
upgraded,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
a
plan
for,
and
we
have
a
cost
for
just
updating.
V
Some
of
the
switches
on
one
of
our
storages
is
about
forty
two
thousand
dollars.
A
network
engineer
would
be
able
to
do
that
in
house.
We
wouldn't
need
to
hire
that
out
at
all.
You
could
see
that
easily
without
a
network
engineering
position,
that
your
consulting
fees
and
your
sows
for
putting
in
any
piece
of
equipment
just
goes
up
astronomically,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
found
over
my
experience
is
one
thing
that
you
cannot
do.
Is
you
can't
outsource
your
brain?
You
can't
actually
have
a
vendor.
V
Tell
you
what
you
need
and
tell
you
what
you
want
and
just
sell
you
a
product.
You
have
to
have
someone
on
this
side
of
the
fence
on
the
city
side,
defending
the
city's
interest
to
make
sure
that
all
the
proposals
go
through
and
that
someone
again
no
soups
to
nuts
top
critical
needs
in
priority
order.
You've
seen
this
before
network
engineer
with
the
network
engineer,
the
core
switch
and
network
infrastructure
which
is
in
progress,
becomes
more
efficient.
We
don't
have
to
outsource
those
services,
our
upgrading
licensing.
V
You
need
a
network
type
engineer
for
that
when
we
move
into
the
integrated
court's
jail
public
safety,
which
I'm
sure
we
will
at
least
get
to
the
point
of
having
the
plan
in
place
next
year
to
move
to
that
system,
you
need
a
network
engineer
because
those
systems
have
to
negotiate
the
gamut
from
the
jail
to
the
courts,
to
all
the
other
places
that
the
information
needs
to
go
and
then,
in
the
end,
the
integrated
hr
payroll
system,
even
if
it's
cloud-based
and
people
say
well.
What?
V
V
As
a
group,
though
we
don't
have
anyone
that
can
see
the
whole
picture,
and
I
just
want
to
leave
you
with
the
fact
that
the
position
really
is
the
first
step
in
having
someone
that
would
really
know
everything
from
what's
on
your
desk
to
what's
in
the
cloud
to
what's
in
the
data
center
into
how
to
make
it
all
coordinate
and
work
as
efficient
as
possible
and
in
the
meantime
it
saves
the
city
money.
Now.
What
would
it
save
me?
V
It'll
save
me
more
than
the
salary
over
time
more
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
but
it
actually
saves
the
city
on
every
project.
I.T
does
every
time
you
pay
for
these
disaster
recovery
services
or
every
time
you
pay
a
vendor
to
come
in,
to
set
up
a
switch
or
to
redo
your
voip,
which
is
the
telephone
systems
you're,
paying
a
a
much
larger
price.
V
If
you
just
interpolated
over
12
months
what
it
cost
just
for
the
rms
project,
ias
world
project
in
the
one
week
that
we
had
to
use
that
service,
you
would
find
that
that's
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
I
I
don't
have
the
whole
yearly
budget,
but
I
do
have
about
six
months
worth
of
budget,
and
that
is
in
line
with
what
we're
spending
for
these
services.
Now
the
first
year
you
save,
like
I
said
on
the
forty
thousand,
the
forty
nine
thousand.
We
would
have
saved
all,
but
about
ten
thousand
dollars.
V
Have
we
had
our
own
network
engineer
everything's,
not
that
good,
but
you
would
always
save
at
least
half,
because
you
still
need
them
to
put
in
their
stuff
or
at
least
advise
on
their
stuff.
But
you
don't
need
them
here,
actually
plugging
in
wires
and
setting
switches
and
then
spending
all
the
time
that
they
do
a
lot
of
their
work
is
actually
spending
asking
us.
V
What
do
we
do
so
then
it
takes
up
all
of
our
time
and
their
time
which
we're
paying
them
for
their
time
and
then
finding
out
what
it
is
that
we
do.
So.
I
ask
you
again
to
please
reconsider
adding
this
engineering
position.
It's
been
my
top
priority
since
I
came
because
I
really
believe
that
the
knowledge
base
is
really
what
takes
you
forward.
I
have
plenty
of
knowledge
on
how
to
do,
but
I
don't
have
the
technical
skill
at
every
level
as
no
one
does
to
make
it
all
happen
in
this
position.
V
Actually
would
advise
everything
from
my
technicians
to
my
supervisors,
to
my
network
manager,
to
my
web
team
to
the
internet,
to
our
servers,
our
virtualization
it
that
that
position.
This
person
really
does
all
that
so
again,.
F
We've
got
in
discussion
with
councillor.
Excuse
me,
mayor
pro-tem,.
W
Okay,
the
thing
that
really
gets
me
is
you
know:
elected
officials
can
have
their
budget,
they
can
go
out
and
buy
stuff
that
doesn't
improve
the
operations
of
the
department
or
go
to
meetings
that
doesn't
improve
the
operations
of
the
department,
and
here
we
have
someone
who
needs
a
person.
You
know
we.
We
have
okay,
a
lot
of
money
to
be
spent
on
software
in
the
upcoming
year
and
to
go
out
and
purchase
hardware
and
software
and
then
not
be
able
to
operate
it.
B
That's
a
motion,
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
second,
but
we
do
have.
Is
there
a
second
okay
there's
a
second
and
we
have
discussion
counselor
alan.
V
That
would
be
kevin.
Okay
and
kevin's.
Skill
set
is
with
the
servers
and
the
internet
and
the
router.
His
experience
is
not
with
ip
phones,
desktops,
the
pcs,
the
the
routers
smartphones
laptops
that
kind
of
group.
That's
not
his
skills
that
his
skill
set
is
with
the
data
center
itself
and
the
internet.
So
that's
kind
of
this
position
would
be
a
bridge
between
the
things
that
he
does
every
day,
which
we
still
need
to
happen
all
the
way
down
to
the
person
that
actually
works
on
your
machine.
V
In
other
words,
how
does
it
get
from
you
to
kevin
and
that's
what
we
lack?
We
lack
the
the
person,
that's
that
has
the
overall
actual
working
knowledge
of
making
each
of
these
items
work.
We
have
individually
people
that
can
do
some
of
the
jobs,
but
we
don't
have
really
anybody
that
can
program
the
switches
and
routers
to
the
degree
necessary
or
modify
our
ip
internet
protocol
phones.
We
have
to
hire
that
out,
although
we
have
someone
that
can
manage
it
once
it's
in
place.
So
that's
where
that
position
fits
right
right.
There.
P
Is
it
have
you
identified
somebody
in
your
department
that
you
could
that
could
be
trained
to
handle
this.
V
This
position,
at
least
now,
since
it
would
take
probably
to
get
the
the
different
experiences.
I
don't
think
we
have
anybody
in
my
department.
I
have
some
people
that
I'm
sure
over
time,
because
you
saw
that
my
other
my
final
chart
that,
once
you
have
a
mainframe
that
that
we
don't
need
that
we
would
have
two
such
positions
I
think
by
then
I
would
have
someone
in
my
department
that
would
be
capable
and
ready,
but
since
this
is
one
that
you
really
want
on
the
ground
running,
that
already
has
experience
with
microsoft.
V
V
I
would
think
that
for
the
city
that
we
should
be
able
to,
and
I'm
calculating,
probably
250
300
thousand
dollars
minus
this
person's
pay,
so
it
would
be
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
range,
actual
savings
across
different
areas.
V
Most
of
the
savings
would
be
outside
my
area
where
we
would
be
helping
the
public
safety
and
rms
type
stuff.
V
The
auditor
has
expressed
that
once
the
contracts
are
we
go
through
them,
which
is
probably,
I
think,
the
the
longest
one
we
have
is
about
three
and
a
half
years.
So,
within
the
next
three
and
a
half
years,
the
auditors
estimated
700
dollars
a
year
per
year
per
year-
okay,
of
course,
minus
this
position,
so
it
would
be
600
and
some
change
once
we
get
rolled
through
all
the
contracts
that
we're
currently
committed
to.
X
I
R
R
All
right
and
I
I
wanted
to
offer
up
a
couple
of
different
ideas.
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
tie
this
motion
to
the
one
for
adding
the
the
the
position,
but
what
and
I
appreciate
the
idea
about
anticipated
savings,
but
I
think
I'm
much
more
comfortable,
especially
since
its
salary
and
trying
to
make
it
his
balance.
R
One
thing-
and
I
and
I
have
not
talked
to
the
department
heads
and
I'm
about
to
bring
this
up
and
I
apologize
to
them,
but,
but
I
know
john,
has
lost
an
assistant
auditor.
I
don't
think
we
can
do
without
one,
but
I
think
to
help
balance
it
for
50
of
the
annual
savings,
because
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
find
somebody
if
we
had
a
higher
date
targeted
of
january
1,
we'd
save
50
percent
of
that
particular
salary
savings
for
this
year,
and
I'm
saying
this
out
loud
payment.
R
But
I
also
want
to
propose
that
we
eliminate
that
position.
That's
been
unfilled
since
october
and
been
used
to
fund
travel
and
and
lawn
mowers
buildings
to
hold
the
lawnmower
and
cameras
to
watch
the
building
that
hold
the
lawnmower.
R
I
just
it
appears
to
me
it's
it's
clearly
not
an
essential
position
if,
if
that's
what's
been
used,
so
if
we
eliminate
that
position
just
eliminate
it
don't
transfer
the
police
department,
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
weaken
what
the
marshal
is
doing,
because
he
hadn't
had
that
person
there
for
almost
a
year
and
add
that
to
the
half
of
the
year
savings
from
the
auditor's
office.
I'd
be
interested
to
see
how
close
that
comes
to
balancing
pam,
okay
and.
C
B
B
L
Well,
dr
tolley,
I
I
hear
you
plea
and,
and
I'm
still
working
through
this
as
well,
I
appreciate
the
counselor
being
willing
to
to
come
up
with
suggestions.
I
think
they're
good.
L
I
think
the
whole
problem
here
is
somewhat
that
you
were
at
the
top
of
the
line
when
it
came
to
the
ad
delete
list
and
not
knowing
where
it
was
all
going
to
play
out
it
just
you
know
it.
It
backed
us
up
right
to
that
60
day
mark
which
is
a
concern.
I'm
concerned
now
that
of
a
cushion,
which
I
think
the
finance
director
would
probably
agree
with
me.
L
If
it
came
to
a
standpoint
where
it
was
needed
from
a
budgetary
days
in
the
in
the
fund
balance,
I
I
think
that
can
be
done
the
city
manager.
Would
you
agree
to
that
as
well?
On
top
of
what
councilor
henderson
is
saying,
and
I'm
not
going
to
make
that
a
form
of
a
motion,
but
I
I
feel
like
you
would
make
that
adjustment.
L
U
The
answer
to
my
response
to
that
is:
yes,
councillor
davis,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
still
hopeful
that
the
digest
will
will
come
better
than
what
we
what
we've
projected
and
included
in
the
budget,
but
to
respond
to
your
question.
Yes,
if
you
know
we
would
work
it
and
we
would
work
it
without
having
to
go
into
the
fund
balance
any
further,
and
we
do
that
administratively.
L
Well,
I
I
think,
madam
finance
director
do
you,
I
think,
do
you
feel
comfortable
working
when
that
60.375
and
what
it's
with
some
additional
support
that
councilor
henderson's
proposing
right.
G
G
This
position
with
benefits
at
a
pay
grade.
21
is
66
636,
so
it
represents
about
75
percent
of
that
position,
so
it
could
start
october
the
first
and
be
awash
to
the
budget
with
offsetting.
With
that
one
position.
L
U
And
proposal,
and
again,
if
you
know
knowing
that,
if
you
do
what
has
been
proposed,
the
position
would
not
be
fully
allocated
for
the
entire
year
and
and
we
would
pick
up
funding
or
hiring
at
the
appropriate
date.
That
would
keep
us
within
the
balance
and
but
we
would
work
it
that
we
wouldn't
touch
the
fund
balance
for
this
particular
position.
C
B
Let's
see
here,
we've
got
other
counselors
in
line
and
let
me
just
madam
clerk,
so
I
keep
myself
straight.
We
had
a
motion.
Did
we
have
a
second
okay?
Thank
you.
I'm.
J
I
have
several
questions.
The
700
000
savings
that
mr
redmond
spoke
of
was
not
from
the
I.t
budget.
Is
that
correct?
It
was
over
a
number
of
budgets
throughout
the
city
correct.
It's.
J
Well,
under
the
the
approved
fy
15
budget,
under
telephone
we've
got
550
000
and
under
the
proposed
budget,
we've
got
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
you're
saying
it's
going
to
come
out
of
there.
V
J
And
that
is
the
line
item
6621
telephone.
Yes,.
J
J
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
it
clear
to
to
you
and
to
anybody
else,
that's
listening
and
cares
that
I'm
I'm
not
opposed
to
having
the
expertise
that
we
need.
My
opposition
is
to
adding
employees
without
the
money
there
to
do
it
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
to
help
find
some
of
that
money.
That's
why
I'm
asking
you
these
questions?
Okay,
in
your
in
the
proposed
budget,
the
salary
line,
the
6105
line-
only
went
up
eleven
hundred
dollars.
G
In
last
year's
budget
in
fy
15,
the
unfunded
position
is
actually
in
60
103
in
that
line
prior
to
61.05,
and
so
actually,
when
you
add
the
6103
and
6105
the
salary
savings
and
the
salaries
together,
it
would
be
a
net
reduction
of
about
forty
five
thousand
this
year.
That
unfunded
position
was
not
budgeted
in
salary
savings.
We
just
didn't
budget
that
position
at
all,
so
it's
really
an
increase.
When
you
add
the
two
together.
J
J
The
the
other
question
that
I
have-
and
this
is
is
you're
you've
told
us
that
we've
spent
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
consulting
fees
and
again,
that's
not
that
doesn't
show
in
the
budget.
The
contractual
the
consulting
fees
for
fy15
was
budgeted
at
zero
and
is
budgeted
at
five
hundred
five
thousand
dollars
for
15
and
the
contractual
services
is
budgeted
this
year
at
30
and
for
fy
16
at
13..
J
V
It
came
from
the
rms
budget,
so
it
didn't
come
from
your
budget
correct
and
that's
why
it's
kind
of
hard
to
judge,
because
I
actually
am
spending
someone
else's
money
on
that
service,
that
it
would
have
saved
them
money.
J
V
The
way
each
project's
funded
with
the
city
ias
world
was
granted
funding,
rms
was
granted
funding
and
to
put
those
projects
together.
I'm
spending
the
money
from
those
projects
on
these
consulting
and
that's
really.
Why
does
it
reflect
in
my
budget?
So
during
the
year
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
spent
by
technology
on
this
kind
of
service
is
really
coming
from
other
people's
budget
or
other
projects.
V
J
Okay,
okay,
I
think
that's.
N
N
G
In
the
cost
allocation,
it
is
part
of
cost
allocation
and
there's
various
allocations
that
are
made
based
on
computers,
number
of
phones.
What
he's
referring
to
is
the
consulting
services
related
specifically
to
the
implementation
of
a
project.
So
when
rms
was
put
into
place,
there
was
consulting
services
attached
to
the
total
cost
of
that
project.
That
council
approved
the
same
with
iis
world
and
those
are
project
costs
associated
with
the
implementation
of
that
project.
G
Out
to
everybody,
no
only
the
I.t
department
budget-
that's
in
the
general
fund,
is
the
basis
for
the
allocation
for
cost
allocation.
G
Y
B
I
believe
yeah
okay,
we've
got
counselor.
F
Z
Good
morning,
going
back
to
council
allen's
question
about
anyone
being
in
your
department
for
training
there's.
I
have
a
real
issue
with
the
number
of
people
that
work
for
this
government
that
never
get
an
opportunity
to
move
up.
So
my
question
is:
there's
no
one
in
your
department
of
no
choices
of
two
or
three
people
that
could
be
trained
over
the
next
year
to
be
in
that
slot
to
still
save
the
additional
monies
and
bring
somebody
in
at
a
lower
pay
grade
to
do
the
other
services
and
jobs.
V
But
currently,
since
you
don't
have
someone
on
the
level
to
mentor,
you
really
don't
have
that
ability
inside
the
department,
because
these
are
things
that
really
take
five
to
ten
years
to
learn.
You
really
want
someone
experienced
already
doing
governmental
enterprise
agreements
once
you
get
that
in
place.
I
fully
expect
that
the
next
people
would
be
internal
and
they
would
be
in
the
positions.
V
Those
tight
people,
I
think,
would
be,
although
you
can't
promise
a
position
next
in
line
those
tight
people,
but
you
really
until
you
have
someone
that
knows
it,
you
can't
have
trained.
In
other
words,
this
isn't
like
you
can
go
to
school
part
of
it's
going
to
school.
Part
of
experience
already
doing
it
and
part
of
it
is
just
years
of
knowledge.
It's
it
takes
time
to
move
from
being
a
a
tech
one
through
being
a
network
engineer,
someone,
that's
done
all
the
tasks,
and
it's
just
that
to
compress
the
time.
V
Z
V
Absolutely
prepare
to
move
into
I've
already
started
doing
training
with
cisco
and
microsoft
and
with
the
new
microsoft
contract.
We
also
have
training.
It
just
takes
time,
and
I
think
that
it
would
probably
take
most
studies
show
it's
a
three
to
five
year
period
to
get
someone
into
that
role
and
in
three
to
five
years,
we'll
be
in
2018-19,
and
I
don't
think
we
can
afford
to
wait
at
all.
V
V
Just
want
to
reiterate,
you
know
I
come
from
a
training
background.
My
real
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
they're
very
marketable
somewhere
else.
Even
I
mean
because
if
you
got
them
even
for
a
short
time,
you
want
them
all
trained,
and
that
is
really
you
know
my
impetus
for
doing
this.
Is
I
want
to
train
the
people
I
have
so
I
don't
have
to
go
outside.
P
U
P
And
if
mr
tully
comes,
I
agree
with
council
thomas,
it
would
be
good
to
speak
in
layman's
terms,
and
so
we
can
understand
what
what's
going
on
it
it.
It
also
concerns
me
that
the
way
we
have
it
broken
out
it's
in
different
departments.
So
it's
difficult
it's
difficult
for
it
to
be
tracked
back
to
the
savings
that
it
is
producing,
but
I'm
real
concerned
about
going
forward.
P
I've
spoken
with
several
people
in
it,
since
this
issue
came
up
and
it
all
of
them
say
that
we
need
it
that
that,
and
their
point
was
that
over
the
past
10
or
15
years,
the
city
has
not
allowed
quality
folks
to
be
hired
in
the
I.t
department.
For
whatever
reason
it's
mayor,
it's
council,
city
manager,
all
of
us
are,
I'm,
I'm
painting
us
all
with
the
same
brush
we're
all
guilty
of
that.
We
live
in
a
new
world.
P
U
Well
and
council
alan,
you
know
I'll
say
to
you,
as
I
said,
to
the
budget
chair
just
yesterday,
I
didn't
solicit
department.
P
Well,
I
t
people,
I've
talked
with
the
community,
I'm
sorry,
not
I.t,
yeah,
I'm
sorry
in
the
city,
I
I
mean.
I
know
some
of
them
have
a
very
vested
interest
in
this
position
coming
in
and
I
didn't
want.
I
wanted
to
get
a
non-biased
opinion
sure,
but
I
do
see
miss
bigler
and
the
fire
chief
back
there.
So
they're
here
in
spirit,
yeah
and
donna.
P
U
Yeah,
the
elections.
F
So
I'm
sure
the
tax
commissioner
sure
all
right.
We
have
next
councilor
thomas.
J
B
Sure-
and
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
I
only
recall
one
being
put
on
the
table
and
seconded
so
madame
clerk,
could
you
clarify
for
us?
I'm
sorry.
Let
me
get
you
your
mind.
Yes,
ma'am.
Yes,.
AA
J
B
Okay
and-
and
we
do
work
backwards-
is
that
right,
mr
city
attorney?
We
work
backwards.
C
Is
that
right?
Okay-
and
we
have
let's
see.
B
Okay,
all
right:
well,
let's,
let's
work
backwards,
then
we've
got
council
henderson's
motion
to
eliminate
a
position
or
funding.
Excuse
me
to
eliminate
funding
for
a
position
in
the
marshall's
office
and
and
yes,
we
have
councilor
thomas.
J
O
F
All
right
and
pam:
do
you
want
to
tell
us
how
much
that
is
what
would
that
funding
amount.
B
All
right
mayor
protest.
B
There's
there's
one
position
unfilled.
There's
one
position
on
administrative
leave,
the
rest
positions
are
filled,
but
we're
doing
remember
we
are
transferring
funding
with
which
positions
they
pick
would
be
up
to
the
officer,
the
elected
officer.
The
only
thing
we
can
do
is
eliminate
funding
equating
to
a
position
and.
B
B
Okay,
let's
see
counselor
hundreds.
R
And
the
reason,
and
the
reason
for
identifying
that
as
an
opportunity
to
offset
this
additional
expense
is
because,
as
we
went
through
the
motions
of
eliminating
the
funding
for
two
of
those
positions,
it
was
recognized
by
this
council
or
by
this
budget
committee
that
two
positions
were
already
not
filled
as
it
were,
so
there
was
no
net
loss.
So
actually,
even
though
this
is
a
difficult
thing
to
do
in
reducing
personnel.
R
This
is
this
is
only
a
net
loss
of
one
individual
within
that
department
and-
and
we
had
made
the
comments
and
had
the
the
agreement
from
the
chief
of
police
that,
if
it
did
result
in
any
individuals
that
were
no
longer
able
to
work
in
the
marshals
department
or
even
the
sheriff's
office,
when
we
were
discussing
that
item,
that
they
would
be
given
first
opportunity
to
to
sign
on
with
the
police
department.
F
All
right,
we
have
councillor
huff.
Z
Councilman
henderson
did
we
not
also
have
the
opportunity
for
that
person
to
apply
for
to
public
works.
R
B
Want
to
speak
to
the
motion
of
the
marshal
okay,
all
right,
so
that
concludes
discussion
on
the
issue
related
to
funding
of
equating
to
one
additional
position
in
the
marshall's
office.
All
those-
and
is
this.
B
Yes,
yes,
all
right,
do
we
need
to
take
account
ma'am,
okay,
she's
got
it
all
right.
So
then
we
move
on
to
the
second
motion,
which
was
our
mayor.
Pro
tems
motion,
which
related
to
adding
the
position
of
a
network
administrator,
is
that
the
correct
type.
F
G
C
L
B
Okay,
all
right
there
being
no
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
please
stay
die
there.
Any
opposed.
Okay,
you
wanna,
take
account.
Do
you
have
it?
Okay,
all
right
where.
L
Mayor
I
submit
to
you,
I
submit
to
the
council.
This
is
another
example
of
of
what
I
talked
about
benchmarking.
These
projected
cost
savings
that
are
being
presented
to
us.
We've
we've
made
a
lot
of
changes
during
this
budget.
We've
got
a
lot
of.
L
B
Great
well,
I
I
do
too,
and
I
think
we
have
made
such
incredible
frankly
from
legislative
perspective,
brave
decisions
to
change
things.
We
had
the
situation
with
health
care
and
the
pension
and
all
that
and
we
do
benchmark
those,
and
I
think
we
can
easily
benchmark
these
as
the
city
managers
set
forward,
and
so,
as
we
make
these
decisions,
we
just
have
to
watch
to
see
if
it
if
it
bears
the
fruit,
we
thought
it
would
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
U
Mayor,
yes,
and
just
for
clarification
and
to
our
deputy
city
manager,
finance
the
49
0004.
U
Will
go
towards
the
new
position
and,
and
that
will
not
change
the
bottom
line
on
the
current
proposed
budget
it'll.
It
remains
the
same,
and
that
gets
us
75
of
the
way
in
council
davis.
As
you
talked
about
you
know,
if
we
see
an
another
way
to
bring
them
on
earlier,
we
will
that
would
not
impact
the
fund
balance,
but
if
not
we'll
bring
that
person
on
it
an
appropriate
time
during
the
fiscal
year
that
they
would
stay
within
the
49
thousand
dollars.
F
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
we
will
counselor
davis.
L
L
I
would
like
to
bring
up
a
reconsideration
to
the
council.
I
I
am
still
really
concerned
about
the
a
matter
with
the
integrated
waste
fund
on
the
mandating
of
the
removal
of
or
deletion
elimination
of,
all
plastic
bags
for
trash
and
yard
yard
waste.
L
L
L
I
think
we
need
to
further
analyze.
This
we've
got
a
we've,
got
a
person
now
that's
on
board,
with
public
works
and
and
funded
out
of
the
integrated
waste
fund
that
gloria
weston
smart
with
keep
columbus
beautiful.
That
could
make
this
as
one
of
her
priorities
in
in
educating
and
communicating
to
the
community
and
and
hopefully
that
they
would
you'll
voluntarily
get
on
board
with
this
and
maybe
have
the
opportunity
to
ease
into
it.
L
I
think
that
this
is
just
going
at
this
point:
there's
not
enough
awareness
in
the
community,
both
awareness
to
the
citizens
of
what's
going
to
happen,
and
it's
going
to
be
one
of
those
things
that
once
it's
implemented,
our
phones
are
going
to
ring
off
the
hook.
I
promise
you
that
our
phones
are
going
to
ring
off
the
hook
and
I
still
think
there's
going
to
be
an
issue
from
the
standpoint
of
businesses
and
and
how
they
choose
to
stock
their
their
stores
and
even
from
a
competitive
standpoint.
L
L
L
So
it's
not
an
issue
that
well,
the
issue
of
cost
avoidance
has
been
addressed,
and
I
would
like
to
put
that
out
as
a
reconsideration
to
council
and
make
a
motion
that
that
that
that
be
taken
out
of
the
budget
for
this
year
and
and
continue
to
be
evaluated.
F
C
G
What
was
included
in
the
budget
was
the
elimination
of
the
use
of
plastic
bags.
What
was
included
on
the
ad
delete
list
was
to
eliminate
glass
recycling
both
of
those
items
that
councilor
davis
is
referring
to
as
cost
avoidance
of
three
trucks
and
drivers,
and
I
think
what
his
suggestion
is
is
by
eliminating
the
glass
recycling.
G
You've
reached
the
goal
that
was
presented
in
the
original
budget
of
the
three
trucks
and
drivers
and
that
now
we're
netting
an
additional
three
trucks
and
drivers
which
is
much
needed
in
the
public
works
department.
So
I'll.
Let
pat
address
the
specifics
of
that
particular
program,
but
it
does
meet
the
requirements
that
she
has
to
provide
the
other
services
in
her
department.
T
Well,
we've
covered
a
lot
of
the
facts
and
figures
before
I'll.
Just
reiterate
that
we
are
some
17
trucks
and
drivers
short
overall
in
in
waste
collection,
and
we
are
spending
probably
double
the
amount
of
money
on
overtime,
more
than
double
the
amount
of
on
of
money
that
we
have
in
the
budget
on
overtime
just
to
keep
up.
Basically
with
the
pickup
services,
we
do
need
to
make
some
changes
we
need.
T
T
T
Hopefully
we
can
do
some
shifting
internally
without
expanding
our
workforce,
which
I
think
is
appropriate,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
choose
as
a
body
to
approve
two
of
those
and
not
the
third
one.
T
You,
let
me
add
one
more
thing
now
that
I've
thought
about
it.
The
proposal
from
our
office
is
not
to
implement
this
change
until
14
september,
which
would
mean
we
would
be
contacting
all
the
businesses
we
talked
to.
None
of
them
carry
bags
at
this
time.
T
All
of
them
told
that
we
talked
to
told
us
that
they
would
bring
a
supply
of
bags
in
if
there
is
a
request
for
them
to
do
so,
and
if
council
changes
the
rules
in
terms
of
those
biodegradable
bags,
will
all
of
them
follow
up
on
that?
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
see.
I
do
believe
that
many
of
the
businesses
will
start
stop
stocking
those
biodegradable
bags,
so
I
and
we
will
be
pushing
putting
out
a
fairly
substantial
educational
program
to
the
public
on
what
needs
to
happen
why
it
needs
to
happen.
T
We're
looking
at
things
like
even
what
the
cost
would
be
if
we
purchased
bio
biodegradable
bags,
that
you
know
columbus,
recycles
and
made
those
available
for
people
to
get
used
to
the
idea.
So
we
have
a
number
of
of
ideas
with
gloria's
help
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
that
assistance.
We'll
be
able
to
do
a
more
intense
pr
program,
but
we've
got
a
fairly
long
list
of
efforts.
We
will
be
making
to
get
the
word
out
to
the
public
and
get
everyone
educated.
R
Thank
you,
miss
bigler,
and
I
supported
this
because
I
just
of
the
strain
on
our
budget
that
that
eight
big
fleet
places,
but
do
me
a
favor
break
it
down
to
my
elementary
school
level,
clarify
what
you
mean
by
the
cost
avoidance.
Does
that
mean
that
of
these
three
proposals,
we
anticipate
a
an
attrition
rate
of
nine
trucks
and
drivers
during
the
year,
and
this
will
avoid
three
of
those.
R
T
Okay,
if
you
really,
you
know,
do
some,
it
takes
a
little
deep
analysis,
but
let
me
give
you
the
kind
of.
T
Okay,
you
put
a
driver
and
two
inmates
on
a
truck
and
you
send
them
through
a
quarter
of
the
city
for
for
yard
waste
each
day
during
the
work
day.
T
You
can
shorten
the
amount
of
time
they're
having
to
stop
at
each
stop
and
if
you
look
at
if
it
takes,
for
example,
nine
trucks
to
make
those
stops
with
the
current
time
we
have
now
and
to
do
the
cut
the
bag
open
empty
it
out,
put
the
bag
somewhere
else
go
get
another
one
empty
it.
You
know
you
go
through
that
motion
multiple
times.
T
T
Etc,
with
the
shortage
we
have,
what
we're
going
to
see
right
now
is:
if
we
could
make
that
change
today,
we
would
need
three
fewer
trucks
to
complete
that
particular
task.
We
could
have
those
trucks
running
other
routes.
R
T
L
And
mrs
bigler,
I
don't
mean
any
disrespect
by
this.
You
know
where
I
stand
on
this
and
I
just
I
just
see
it
from
a
totally
different
angle.
But
you
know,
as
I
look
for
the
past
couple
years
and
where
we're
at
now
and
where
we're
going,
you
know
really,
I'm
I'm
looking
is
starting
to
to
unravel
and,
and
you
know,.
L
I
all
really
we're
doing
is
passing
on
this
extra
cost
to
the
citizens.
It's
an
indirect
tax,
it's
an
indirect
tax.
We
don't
want
to
deal
with
it.
We
don't
want
to
fund
the
service,
we're
just
going
to
pass
it
on
to
everybody
else.
It's
going
to
be
a
cost,
there's
going
to
be
a
cost-to-living
increase,
okay
and
from
a
business
perspective.
I'm
just
trying
to
look
at
this
you
know
are,
we
are,
is
what
we're
doing
now.
L
So,
are
we
better,
or
should
we
even
be
having
this
topic
about
plastic
bags,
or
should
we
just
be
talking
about
raising
the
integrated
waste
fee
right
now
and
solve
the
issues?
And
that's
my
concern?
Is
that
eventually
the
citizens
are
smart
they're,
they
understand
they're
going
to
see
it,
and
you
know
you
can
only
pass
on
their
costs.
They
would
less
money
would
come
out
of
their
pocket.
L
I'm
convinced
less
money
would
come
out
of
their
pocket.
If
we
just
raise
the
integrated
waste
fee
or
find
you
know,
I
even
propose
something
on
a
temporary
measure
where
we
would
just
buy
the
recycling
cans
and
and
the
bags
for
the
citizenry
at
a
cost
savings.
A
tremendous
cost
savings
just
by
the
ability
of
the
purchasing
power
that
we
have
that's
a
deal.
L
You
know
it's
just
something
that
I've
been
thinking
through
as
we've
been
working
through
this,
but
you
know
we
we
can't
keep
coming
in
every
year,
we've
raised
the
integrated
waste
fund,
the
last
few
years
now
we're
coming
in
with
this.
What's
next
year,
what's
the
following
year,
and
I'm
just
thinking,
there's
maybe
a
bigger
plan
that
the
council
doesn't
know
about
here,
but
we're
just
biting
away
at
it
one
year
at
a
time.
L
I
do
think
that,
what's
on
the
table,
I'm
just
asking
for
reconsideration
with
a
motion
that
that
we
continue
to
explore
this
matter
and
educate
the
community
and
ask
them
from
a
voluntary
point.
Would
you
do
this
for
us,
so
we
can
incur
cost
savings
and
let
them
do
that
and
let
them
buy
into
it
versus
the
mandating
is
going
to
be.
I
think
is
going
to
be
a
problem.
I
may
be
wrong.
I
may
be
completely
wrong,
but
I'm
trying
to
do
my
responsibility
as
a
citizen's
representative.
So
please
don't
take
that
as
disrespect.
L
I
love
you
you're
you're
awesome.
You
do
a
tremendous
job
and
you're
serving
this
city.
Well,
and
so
are
your
folks
and
I
and
I
say
that
wholeheartedly
and
you've
always
been
responsible
whenever
there's
a
need
and
and
somebody
needs
needs,
help
you've
always
been
responsive,
and
I
appreciate
that
it
just
happens
to
be
we're
not
seeing
eye
to
eye
on
this.
This
one
matter,
but
that's
part
of
my
job
is
to
deal
with
some
of
these
tough
challenges.
L
T
T
T
T
What
some
of
the
options
are,
how
you
choose
to
act
on?
Those
is
entirely
up
to
you
and
I
and
my
staff
will
continue
to
do
the
best
job
we
possibly
can
keep
conveying
ideas
that
we
have
and
efficiencies
we
can
identify
in
any
way.
We
can
so
that
we
can
continue
to
provide
the
service.
The
city
needs
and
deserves.
P
Thank
you,
mayor
pat,
do
we.
P
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
a
way
to
try
to
help
citizens
through
this,
this
additional
cost
that
council
davis
described
in
it
it
we
we
pick
up
recyclables
once
a
week
the
the
recyclable
container
looks
like
it
has
the
ability
to
be
picked
up
by
a
mechanical
apparatus.
T
T
P
AB
T
T
So
yes,
the
flip
side
of
that,
for
me,
is
I
really
very
much
want
to
keep
encouraging
recycling,
because
that
has
you
know,
raises
more
revenue
and
slows
down.
The
light,
extends
the
life
of
our
landfill
and
if
we
can't
get
citizens
recycling
carts,
then
also
finding
them
for
the
yard.
Waste
is
now
our
bins,
we're
using
those
less
and
less,
as
we
add
more
of
the
large
carts.
That
would
be
great.
We
could
do
that.
T
I
would
ultimately
love
to
have
standard
containers
for
all
of
our
things
that
we
pick
up
so
that
we
could
just
go
flip
them
and
keep
on
going,
but.
T
P
Closely,
it
just
seems
well,
I
agree
with
council
davis,
it
is
shift,
it's
cost,
shifting
it's
taken
out
of
our
pocket
and
forcing
the
citizens
to
pay
for
it,
and
we
talked
about
the
budget
meeting
and
the
supply
and
demand
issue.
If
we're
mandating
paper
bags
and
the
stores
are
going
put
a
nice
price
on
so.
P
AB
P
T
C
All
right-
and
we
have
the
mayor
pro
tem.
T
F
Okay,
we
have
counselor
alan
thank.
P
W
F
All
right
and
then
we
have
counselor
davis.
L
Madam
mayor,
I
mean
I'm,
I
think
everybody
can
tell
I'm
kind
of
passionate
about
this,
but
I
I
will
my
last
comment
will
be
you
know.
Just
for
the
sake
of
the
council.
We
have
a
a
social
network
in
in
our
neighborhoods.
L
If
it
needed
to
be
a
cost
savings.
Now,
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
cost
avoidance
came
in
there,
which
made
it
even
more.
So
I
I
am
just
trying
to
I
got
and
also
I
will
say,
there's
people
in
that
I
represent
that
are
in
favor
of
this
of
your
proposal.
I
will
say
that,
but
on
the
poll
I
did
a
majority,
a
good
bit
of
majority
wanted
to
see
this
service
stay
at
this
point,.
F
L
B
On
because
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
moment,
we
have
more
discussion.
Madame
clerk,
could
you
read
the
the
motion.
C
Again,
I'm
sorry,
I
wasn't
wasn't
available.
R
So
I
I
I
too
am
not
pleased
about
it.
I
don't
like
adding
any
fees
at
all
to
to
what
the
citizens
pay,
but
when
faced
with
an
either
or
I
I've
always
favored
the
user
fees
more
than
across
the
board.
That
way,
the
folks
that
utilize,
the
service
and
enjoy
the
service
are
the
ones
that
help
to
support
it
and
are
impacted
by
it.
So
but
I
understand
exactly
where
you're
coming
from
thank
you
mayor.
B
C
It's
inconclusive
and
so
the
item
will
stay.
J
Mayor
we
have
later
in
the
city
attorney's
agenda
a
first
reading
on
an
ordinance
to
mandate
this.
That
has
a
date
in
it.
So
would
this
motion
go
to
that
amend
that
that
ordinary,
that
proposed
ordinance,
yes,
ma'am
and
then,
when
this
proposed
ordinance
comes
back
for
a
second
reading
in
two
weeks.
J
B
J
There's
an
ordinance
item
number
nine
in
the
city
attorney's
agenda
right
that
provide
provides
for
this
prohibition:
prohibition
on
plastic
bags-
yes-
and
my
question
is
when
it
comes
back
to
us
on
second
reading
in
two
weeks
or
a
week
whenever
it's
coming
back
and
it
is
not
passed,
then,
where
are
we.
B
Okay,
if
because
there's
two
things
that
we're
not
now
speaking
to
councilor
allen's
motion,
counselor
thomas's
question,
as
I
understand
it,
mr
city
attorney-
is
that
if
the
ordinance,
which
is
right
now
being
sought
to
be
amended
somewhat
out
of
order,
as
you
point
out,
is
not
passed
in
a
week,
then
the
prohibition
will
not
exist
and.
B
The
pam
do
you
want
to
address
that
it
will
have
the
cost
avoidance
impact
and
I
think
there.
J
G
It
will
not
change
the
total
dollar
amount
of
the
budget.
What
it
will
do
is
have
the
cost
avoidance
that
was
going
to
be
recognized
of
those
three
trucks
and
drivers
not
be
there,
so
the
overtime
savings
that
she
would
expect
to
have
seen
would
not
happen,
so
the
the
overtime
will
still
be
generated
at
the
level
that
it
is
now.
G
No,
it
just
allows
her
to
feel
the
the
vacant
routes.
Those
three
trucks
and
drivers
were
filling
those
vacant
routes
that
did
not
have
a
driver
with
them
when
she
starts
the
day
that
she
just
kind
of
walked
through
that
process.
So
that
reduces
the
amount
of
overtime.
That's
gener,
that's
expended
each
year.
G
B
G
I
B
B
B
To
postpone
the
implementation
of
item
number
nine
related
to
the
plastic
bags
and
yard
waste
until
january
1
2016,
and
we
have
the
mayor
pro
tem
with
further
discussion.
And
as
I.
F
C
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
amend
the
date
to
january.
H
L
Discussion
and
out
of
this
discussion,
the
city
manager
I
and
madam
mayor-
I
guess
you
know
director
bigler-
has
has
talked
a
lot
about
some
of
these
concerns
that
she
has
and
it
sounds
like
the
issue
regarding
overtime
and
trucks
and
drivers
and
all
if,
if
it
sounds
like
that's
a
problem,
then
I'm
hoping
that
we
have
some
kind
of
a
plan
to
start,
maybe
sobbing
or
or
dealing
with
that
efficiently.
From
a
from
a
revenue
standpoint
in
in
the
respective
department
sure.
B
I
think
I
think
that
is
what
she
does
every
day
and
I
think
that's
what
we've
attempted
to
do
with
the
glass
and
the
other
things
so
and
maybe
we
can
bring
it
have
an
updated
another
work
session
or
something
okay.
Thank
you
all
right.
Any
further
discussion
related
to
the
operating
budget
for
fy
16.
H
Let's
see
if
anybody
in
the
audience
wants
to
be
her,
this
is
a
public
hearing.
Okay,
all
right,
don't
see
any
other
hands
with
that,
as
amended,
we
will
go
for
a
vote
next
week
on
the
operating
budget.
It's
nine
o'clock
a.m.
Next
week,
next
item
up
mayor
is
the
ordinance
for
the
non-operating
budgets,
such
as
urban
development,
economic
development
fund
home
program,
hud
forfeiture
funds,
hotel,
motel
tax,
that's
ready
for
any
discussion.
C
All
right,
I
do
not
see
any
discussion
at
this
time.
H
All
right
we'll
bring
it
back
for
a
vote
next
week,
with
council's
permission,
we'll
call
five,
six,
seven
and
eight
all
together.
These
are
ordinances
for
funding
the
general
government,
employees,
pension
plan
of
the
public
safety
pension
plan,
major
disability
income
plan
and
the
death
benefit
plan.
Those
are
all
on
the
table
for
any
discussion.
Any
questions.
H
C
H
H
B
AC
Good
afternoon
mayor
and
thank
you
for
having
us
this
morning,
the
mayor
and
airport,
tim
and
city
manager
and
council,
I
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
before
again.
We
really
appreciate
the
proclamation
that
was
given
the
other
day
and
thank
you
again
for
the
recognition.
AC
AC
First
of
all,
let
me
just
a
little
bit
about
true
life:
we're
a
non-profit,
free
health
care,
clinic,
we're
located
on
the
campus
of
midtown
medical
in
1968
north
avenue
and
be
working
as
a
diversion
as
well
with
the
to
help
with
the
immersion
department,
we're
leaving
some
of
the
stress
there,
working
with
have
affiliation
with
some
of
the
universities
allowing
some
of
the
students
to
have
clinical
hours,
but,
most
importantly,
here,
to
provide
free
quality
health
care
to
citizens
in
our
area,
both
here
in
west
georgia
and
east
alabama,
that
don't
have
the
the
needs
of
the
insurance
to
provide
their
care.
AC
We,
of
course,
deal
with
the
homeless,
but
now
in
our
nation,
in
our
in
our
area
in
particular,
is
more
than
about
just
a
homeless.
It
is
about
the
person
that
sitting
on
the
pews
next
to
your
church
is
about
the
person
that
worked
with
you,
your
neighbor,
your
family
members,
for
whatever
reason
find
themselves
in
a
position
where
they
can't
afford
quality
health
care
for
themselves
or
for
their
family,
and
so
with
that
said,
that's
our
mandate
is
to
do.
That
is
to
be
a
snap
gap
for
that.
AC
Let
me
also
say
that
we're
looking
for
volunteers
as
well
through
the
georgia
public
health
care,
where
they
will
provide
coverage,
liability
coverage
for
those
practitioners
or
doctors
and
nurses
that
want
to
volunteer
at
no
cost
they're,
also
our
credentialing
source
as
well,
and
which
is
they
have
really
streamlined
that
process.
AC
It
really
is
a
one-page
application
with
a
signature
page
and
so
we're
asking
those
in
our
community
that
in
the
healthcare
profession
that
want
to
find
a
place
to
volunteer
look
at
us,
we
would
certainly
need
you
at
this
time,
as
well
like
to,
of
course,
ask
for
support.
AC
We
are
513c
corporate
citizens
who
want
to
place
our
money
and
help
provide
that
service
for,
for
the
citizens
area
will
appreciate
that
individuals
as
well
that
want
to
give.
We
appreciate
that
as
well,
and
also
ask
some
of
the
churches
that
are
looking
at
looking
for
a
home
mission.
We
appreciate
your
help
as
well.
We
also
take
the
opportunity
to
invite
council
and
others
that
are
here
today
to
be
a
part
of
our
grand
opening,
that's
june
18th
at
two
o'clock
open
to
the
general
public.
AC
Please
come
by
and
visit
with
us,
and
then
we
also
extend
a
personal
invitation
to
each
one
of
you
here
at
a
time
that's
convenient
for
you
to
come
by
just
to
our
facility
and
and
look
at
what
we're
doing
here
in
our
city,
and
let
me
also
say
we
have
gotten
an
excellent
lesson
in
the
civic
patient
today.
I
really
appreciate
you
and
what
you
have
what
you
do
and
let
me
say
that
I
know
the
job
that
you
do.
AC
Is
it's
not
easy,
but
we
appreciate
you
your
time,
your
service
and
your
due
diligence
as
we've
seen
today.
Let
me
again
just
take
this
opportunity
to.
Let
me
just
say
this
one
thing
before
I
allow
my
staff
to
introduce
themselves.
These
are
full-time
volunteers
and
they
have
a
heart
for
this
city:
a
heart
for
this
community
and
they've,
given
themselves
in
their
time
and
talents
to
make
available
those
in
our
community
who
need
quality,
free
health
care.
AC
That
said,
if
there's
any
questions
for
me,
I'm
going
to
allow
them
to
introduce
themselves
and
we'll
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
for
us
today.
Okay,.
F
Let's
see
counselor
huff
had
a
comment.
AC
1968
north
avenue
we're
located
on
campus
in
midtown
medical
and
we'd
love
to
see
you
there.
Okay,
thank
you.
Z
AD
AE
AB
X
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
listel
armor
and
I'm
president
office
manager
at
the
tree
of
life,
healthcare,
we're
welcoming
as
pastor
clyde,
say,
the
volunteers
and
anyone
that
wants
to
come
by
and
view
the
facility.
B
B
Right
well,
if
he
comes
back
before
we
get
to
the
end,
we
certainly
will
hear
from
him
and
next
we
have
the
very
patient,
henry
mccoy
and
a
group
representing
the
columbus
public
library
to
speak
with
us
about
storycorps.
B
AF
B
AF
Madam
mayor
counselors
city
officers,
thank
you
good
morning
good
afternoon.
Let
me
tell
you
a
story
about
a
library,
a
small
but
adequate
library
built
for
the
colored
citizens
of
this
town
about
70
years
ago.
AF
Stories
are
political
because
stories
have
power
and
they
have
power
because
they
are
our
real
history
and
now
is
our
time
to
save
these
stories.
I'm
very
pleased
to
inform
you
about
the
mildred
terry
memory
project.
A
long
dreamed
about
effort
to
capture
and
preserve
the
precious
memories
of
this
city
of
columbus,
its
leaders,
yes,
but
more
importantly,
its
citizens
from
nearly
350
applicants,
chattahoochee
valley,
libraries,
was
one
of
only
10
library
systems
nationwide
chosen
to
receive
the
storycorps
at
your
library
grant.
AF
This
grant
provides
money,
training,
free
recording
equipment
and
archival
expertise
to
allow
us
to
collect
for
free.
The
oral
histories
of
the
people
of
this
community
begun
in
2003
storycorps
is
the
nation's
preeminent
collector
of
oral
histories.
Perhaps
you
have
heard
their
stories
aired
every
friday
on
npr
and
in
its
12
years
existence
storycorps
has
recorded
over
50
000
interviews
with
over
80
000
participants
nationwide,
and
they
have
now
empowered
and
trained
the
staff
at
the
chattahoochee
valley
libraries
to
bring
that
mission
to
our
area,
and
that
is
why
we
are
here.
AF
We
want
your
stories
and
I
don't
mean
just
city
council
or
the
constitutional
officers.
I
mean
we
want
the
stories
of
everybody
in
this
community.
Everyone
has
an
important
story
to
tell
a
story
that
is
of
value
to
your
family,
to
your
friends
to
your
community.
Each
one
of
you
is
probably
thinking
well,
I'm
too
busy.
I
don't
have
time
and
you're
coming
up
with
excuses
right
now,
but
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
each
and
every
one
of
you
has
something
of
importance
to
us
all
the
recollection
of
how
our
lives
really
were.
AF
AF
We
will
be
happy
to
help
you
preserve
your
stories
and
memories
for
free
and
in
return,
you'll
receive
a
free
cd
copy
of
your
interview,
and
your
interview
will
be
preserved
in
the
library
of
congress,
american
folk
life
center
and,
in
certain
instances,
the
smithsonian
institution.
Now
the
story,
core
interview
is
different
from
other
oral
histories.
Instead
of
seeking
facts
or
dates.
AF
We
are
seeking
stories
and
to
help
you
tell
your
stories,
we
encourage
you
to
bring
a
friend
a
family
member
or
a
co-worker,
to
swap
tales
of
your
youth
and
adulthood
by
having
someone
with
whom
you
are
comfortable
conversing
with
you.
The
final
interview
is
lively
and
very
full
of
emotion,
and
your
interview
can
help
in
service
to
the
community.
AF
So
how
can
anyone
participate
after
you
book
your
appointment?
You
simply
report
to
the
mildred,
terry
public
library,
on
veterans
park
there
parkway
and
from
there
you
will
be
escorted
into
the
storycorps
recording
studio,
we'll
fill
out
data
sheets
in
a
release
form
make
some
technical
adjustments
and
then
start
recording
your
conversation.
That's
it
most
recording
sessions
last
about
40
minutes
and
the
entire
process
is
usually
completed
in
a
little
over
an
hour.
AF
Here's
how
anybody
at
home-
or
you
can
sign
up
the
first
way-
is
to
visit
our
library
website
cvlga.org
and
from
there
look
for
the
big
orange
button
that
says
story
core.
This
will
take
you
to
our
scheduling
website,
where
you
can
choose
a
time
and
date,
that's
convenient
for
you
and
if
you
like,
you
can
also
call
the
mildred
l,
terry
branch
library
at
706-724-2782.
AF
And
a
staff
member
can
help.
You
choose
your
time
now
for
all
participants.
We
send
you
a
packet
containing
interview,
tips
and
a
list
of
possible
questions
and
topics
to
help.
You
plan
your
conversation
and
should
you
need
to
report
without
a
friend
or
family
member?
Don't
worry.
We
can
also
serve
as
your
interview,
facilitator
and
partner.
AF
E
E
My
story
was
from
my
connection
with
fourth
avenue
library
before
it
became
military
library.
I
came
to
columbus
georgia
every
saturday
because
I
grew
up
in
alabama
hatchet
chubby
alabama,
but
we
came
to
town
every
saturday
and
we
went
to
the
fourth
avenue
library
and
there
we
got
a
chance
to
read.
We
could
not
check
out
books
because
we
lived
in
alabama,
but
back
in
my
community
there
was
a
bookmobile,
but
it
was
not
for
people
who
look
like
me.
E
So
therefore
I
came
to
columbus
georgia
on
saturdays
to
have
a
chance
to
read
and
to
check
not
to
check
out,
but
just
to
read
in
the
fourth
avenue
library
before
it
became
the
military
library.
I've
been
a
librarian
now
in
this
community
for
50
years
I
retired
the
first
week
in
may-
and
I
have.
I
am
happy
that
I
have
had
a
chance
to
reach
many
many
people
in
the
muskogee
county
school
district,
starting
with
dawson
elementary
school,
and
I
ended
at
columbus
tech
library.
E
AF
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
inspiration
for
this
program,
our
branch
manager,
sylvia
bunn,
who
had
to
run
away
to
conduct
a
story
core
interview,
so
we
have
three
interviews
today,
20
more
lined
up
already,
I'm
going
to
distribute
these
cards
to
each
of
you
so
that
you
can
have
something
information
about
the
program
we'll
give
it
to
the
clerk
right
here.
So
on
behalf
of
sylvia,
on
behalf
of
ms
battle
and
all
of
our
library
supporters.
Thank
you
very
much.
Please.
We
beg
everybody
in
this
town.
Y
B
W
AF
Z
Good
morning,
happy
birthday
miss
bell.
I
grew
up
just
a
few
blocks
from
there
used
to
walk
to
the
library
from
time
to
time
and
several
events,
so
I
basically
have
been
trying
to
figure
out
for
the
last
two
weeks
now
what
to
say
so.
I
will
be
participating
and
coming
through
and
my
brother
and
I'm
trying
to
get
my
brother
home
from
california
to
participate.
J
Mr
mccoy,
the
I
would
hope
that
we
as
the
city
could
help
to
spread
the
word
with
this
most
of
what
you
have
shown
us
today,
probably
could
be
shown
on
our
ccg
tv.
J
You
have
a
wonderful
voice
to
do
a
voiceover
for
something
on
ccgtv,
but
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
there
are
a
number
of
places
that
your
presentation
would
I'm
sure
reap
rewards.
One
of
them
is
this
friday
at
11
30,
the
muskogee
association
of
the
muskogee
retired
educators
association
is
meeting,
and
those
folks
have
you
know
a
tremendous
network
and
I'm
sure
would
allow
you
five
minutes
on
their
agenda.
J
You
know
to
do
this
kind
of
a
presentation,
because
that
then
just
reaches
out
and
reaches
out
and
reaches
out.
It's
a
delightful
idea,
and
I
have
heard
storycorps
on
on
npr,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
columbus
stories
and
councilor
huff
and
others
as
they
do
this.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
that
with
us
today.
Thank
you.
B
I
appreciate
your
patience
today
all
right
we're
having
problems
with
our
timing
system,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
have
to
orally
call
it.
If
you
could
sir,
please
clear
the
time
and
then
we
will
announce
your
five-minute
warning
and
and
just
sort
of
orally
call
it
out,
so
forgive
that
because
I'm
not
sure
it's
working
there
at
the
podium.
It's
certainly
not
working
up
here.
Next
we
have
mr
randy
crumpler
who'd
like
to
speak
to
us
about
the
city's
tnr
program
for
feral
cats.
B
B
U
B
We've
got
a
motion
to
approve
item
number
one
which
is
authorization
to
accept
exercise
equipment
at
the
gallup
senior
center.
U
B
Sorry,
it's
simply
misnumbered
on
the
agenda.
Please
record
your
votes
electronically,.
U
B
We
have
a
motion
for
purchases
of
purchases
to
approve
purchases
a
through
e.
Would
anyone
like
to
pull
any
of
these
items
for
a
particular
discussion?
B
B
B
U
And
the
final
item
is:
was
an
add-on:
it's
the
fiscal
year,
16
annual
action
plan.
We
come
to
you
with
this.
Every
year
we
are
required
to
update
it
with
regarding
our
hood
cdbg
funding,
we're
asking
your
approval.
C
Oh
not
on
that,
okay,
all
right,
good!
All
right!
Let's
see
we
have
a
motion.
A
second
and
and
discussion
is
concluded.
F
L
The
city
manager,
do
you
know
when
we
we
just
approved
some
of
these
statewide
contracts,
do
most
all
the
departments
utilize
these
statewide
contracts,
whether
it's
general
government
or
public
safety
or
other
departments?
Do
they
all
utilize.
These
state
contracts,
for
example,
uniforms
and
things
like
that.
U
We
do
now
we
do
do
requests
for
proposals
or
bs
for
uniforms
and
our
uniform
form
provider
is
local
as
a
local
vendor.
So
but
we
all
we
utilize
the
statewide
contracts
for
automobiles
purchases
and
any
other
items
that
we
would
need
in
the
government.
I
will
say
for
automobiles:
we,
although
we
know
the
bid
price
for
automobiles,
pickups
and
cars
and
so
forth
on
state
contract.
We
still
bid
it
out
so
that
our
locals
will
have
an
opportunity
to
be
against
the
state
contract
and
and
then
they
get
a
preference.
U
F
AA
Madam
mayor
and
council
on
the
clerk's
agenda
items
one
through
four,
a
biographical
sketch
of
individuals
to
serve
on
our
boards,
five,
six,
seven
and
eight
or
temporary
street
closing
applications
for
various
events
throughout
the
city
police
department
has
approved.
These
are
just
for
the
council's
information
item.
Nine.
This
is
a
resolution
requesting.
C
We've
got
a
motion
to
approve
item
nine,
which
is
a
a
resolution
to
change
the
schedule.
The
council
meetings
for
the
month
of
june.
B
All
those
in
a
second
by
counselor
huff,
all
those
in
favor,
please
state
aye,
we've
got
a
motion
that
the
minutes
be
received.
Is
there
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
please
state
aye,.
AA
I
have
an
add-on
as
well.
I
have
a
resolution
also
asking
the
council,
the
july
7th
proclamation
session.
C
We've
got
a
motion
and
second,
to
cancel
the
july
7th.
Is
it
a
proclamation
session.
F
Okay,
all
right
all
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
stay.
B
AA
AA
F
W
AA
AA
Back
I
apologize
on
the
board
of
family
and
children's
services.
Ms
tamika
latrell
has
been
nominated,
she
can
be
confirmed.
AA
F
Have
council.
L
David
councillor,
barnes
has
a
nominee
the
the
doctor.
H
AA
That
is
correct
on
our
keep
columbus,
beautiful
commission
we've
outlined
all
of
the
seats
that
will
be
expiring.
AA
AA
Okay,
can
I
have
a
motion
to
go
ahead
and
confirm
those
district
appointments.
AB
AA
L
F
L
I'll
make
that
well,
if
there's
one
left
I'll
nominate
the
one.
Z
Z
AA
AA
Yeah
on
these
other
seats,
we
have
to
wait
at
least
one
week
before
we
confirm.
AA
B
N
We
had,
I
guess
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
when
we
were
talking
about
funding
for
the
naval
museum,
and
I
made
some
comments,
I'm
not
going
to
rehash
the
issues,
but
I
didn't
mean
for
it
to
be
in
a
critical
perspective,
but
more
of
an
explanation
that
some
issues
there
to
becoming
a
little
bit
of
a
stumbling
block
for
to
justify
additional
funding,
and
I
talked
with
miss
both
mr
davis
kendrick
and
bob
and
explained
to
them
that
that
you
know
my
intent
was
not
to
be
critical,
but
it
would
be
more
of
explanatory
situation
as
to
you
know
to
the
issue
we
discussed
during
the
budget
session,
so
it
you
know,
I
probably
should
have
explained
it
better.
N
That's
my
fault!
I
apologize
for
that
if
they
took
it
in
the
wrong
light,
and
I
have
talked
with
both
of
them
and
as
part
of
the
conversation,
it
came
up
that
we're
going
to
take
a
look
after
we
get
past
the
budget
at
our
mou's,
they
were
drafted
back
in
the
90s.
There
may
be
some
opportunity
for
some
savings
there
to
review
those
and
we'll
bring
those
back
with
once
we
get
time
and
get
through
all
this.
N
B
We
adjourn
we
actually
had
someone
on
the
public
agenda
who
has
been
patiently
and
dutifully
sitting
here
since
early
this
morning.
I
noticed
you,
sir,
and
apparently
got
up
for
a
restroom
break,
and
so
we're
not
going
to
hold
that
against
you.
If
you'd
like
to
come
up,
mr
joey
klein
representing
the
american
fueling
system
and
he
wants
to
talk
to
us
about
alternative
fuels
and
so
you'll
have
a
time
limit.
But
we
appreciate
you
being
here
no.
AG
I
I
can
everyone
hear
me:
okay,
yes,
okay,
I
appreciate
you
guys
as
well
and
I'm
just
glad
I
have
a
chance
to
speak
with
you
all
and
I
will
keep
it
short
because
I
know
you
guys
have
been
sitting
here
for
a
long
time.
So
the
reason
that
I'm
here
today,
I'm
again
my
name
is
joey
klein,
I'm
with
american
fueling
systems
out
of
atlanta.
AG
The
reason
I'm
here
today
is
really
to
introduce
what
we're
doing
here
in
columbus
to
you
guys
wherever
we
go,
we
like
to
be
very
close
with
community
leaders,
and
so
we've
been
doing
some
work
here
and
we're
actually
going
to
be
building
something
that
I
think
is
going
to
be
really
beneficial
to
the
city
and
really
I'm.
This
is
purely
informational
to
introduce
what
we're
doing
to
y'all
and
please,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
obviously
happy
to
answer
how
many
of
y'all
have
are
familiar
with.
AG
What
compressed
natural
gas
is,
show
hands,
ish,
okay,
so
essentially
it's
harnessing
natural
gas
as
a
transportation
fuel
and
it's
become
a
trend
among
truck
fleets,
bus
fleets,
municipal
vehicles.
I
mean
really
any
organization
with
some
sort
of
a
fleet
from
att
service
vehicles
to
refuse
haulers
to
school.
Buses
can
use
natural
gas
as
a
transportation
fuel
when
it
is
compressed
and
pressurized.
AG
So
what
my
company
does
is
we
build
these
natural
gas
fueling
stations
around
the
country,
but
mainly
here
in
georgia,
with
the
intent
of
helping
organizations
from
a
private
organization
like
a
fortune
500
like
att
to
a
public
organization
like
dekalb
county
sanitation
in
atlanta?
If
they
want
to
use
natural
gas,
we
want
to
give
them
a
place
to
fill
with
natural
gas.
AG
Does
this
clicker
here
control?
Okay,
so
I'm
proud
to
announce
that
we're
going
to
be
building
what
is
the
first
publicly
accessible
compressed
natural
gas
filling
station
in
columbus
right
now
there
are
about
17
public
cng
stations
in
the
state
of
georgia,
there's
about
830
nationwide
and
as
the
second
largest
city
in
georgia,
columbus
has
been
absent,
lacking
in
a
public
cng
filling
stations
where
you
know
municipal
trash
vehicles,
if
they
ran
on
cng,
could
fill
up
at
t
vehicles
parked
on
williams.
AG
Road
advanced
disposal
vehicles
parked
on
veterans
right
all
these
organizations
that
are
using
cng
other
places
and
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
do
it
here
in
columbus.
We're
changing
that
this
is
our
site
plan,
that
is
about
a
one
and
a
half
acre
lot
on
armor
road,
just
north
of
manchester
expressway.
AG
So
we
are
right
off
of
exit
7
on
185.
This
is
going
to
be
open
to
anyone
who
wants
to
use
it
so
truck
traffic
off
of
185
municipal
vehicles
going
throughout
the
city
or
john
q
public
with
a
honda
civic
that
runs
on
natural
gas.
Anyone
can
fill
up
at
this
facility.
I
am
taking
a
trip
to
the
engineering
department
after
I
meet
with
you
guys
to
hopefully
get
our
permits
ready,
so
we
can
break
ground
later
this
month.
AG
This
is
what
a
finished
facility
looks
like.
It
is
meant
to
look
very
similar
to
a
public
fueling
station
so
that
people's
habits
don't
change
that
much.
It's
really
just
something
different:
that's
going
into
their
vehicles,
here's
a
map
of
where
natural
gas
fueling
stations
that
are
open
up
to
the
public
currently
exist
in
georgia.
Those
green
ones
are
open.
As
you
can
see,
we've
got
a
big
cluster
around
atlanta
and
we've
got
others
that
kind
of
spread
out
to
cover
the
rest
of
the
interstate
system.
AG
Yellow
means
planned-
and
this
is
from
my
organization
and
other
organizations
as
well.
You
guys
are
a
yellow
dot
right
now.
We're
very
excited
about
that,
so
that
we
can
get
something
on
in
this
city.
To
put
you
guys
on
the
map
as
supporting
of
alternative
fuels,
and
I'm
sure
that
a
lot
of
you
guys
who
are
familiar
with
compressed
natural
gas
understand
what
the
benefits
are.
It
is
much
cleaner
than
other
fossil
fuels.
AG
AG
If
anyone
follows
the
commodities
market,
which
I
don't
really
know,
those
outside
the
industry
who
find
that
fun
besides
myself,
but
it's
you
know,
because
we
have
so
much
supply
it's
at
a
very,
very
stable
level,
so
that
an
organization
whether
municipal
or
private,
can
know
what
their
fuel
costs
are
going
to
be
for
years
down
the
line
we
haven't
changed
the
price
at
our
station
in
atlanta
in
30
months,
30
months,
it's
domestic.
It's
much.
B
AG
Mean
look,
I
really
I
just
wanted
to
come
here
and
show
you
guys
what
we're
doing
make
you
aware
of
it
and
just
use
it
as
an
economic
development
tool,
as
you're
speaking
to
your
constituents
we're
having
an
event
on
june
26th
at
liberty,
utilities
office
on
victory,
drive
10
to
12
in
the
morning,
we're
going
to
open
it
up
to
fleets
who
want
to
learn
more
about
how
to
use
this
I'd.
Welcome
anyone
to
come
and
if
you're
interested
in
more
information,
here's
my
information,
you
can
always
give
us
a
call.
Z
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
being
patient
going
north
from
on
armor
road.
Will
the
facility
be
on
your
right
left
hand?
It's.
AG
AG
June
26
is
the
event
here.
Just
to
you
know,
talk
have
have
local
fleets
come
10
to
12
at
victory,
2300
victory
drive
totally
free.
AG
Yes
and
I'm
sure
you
have
a
email
address
somewhere
on
the
columbus
georgia
website,
I'm
happy
to
send
you
the
link
to
sign
up
and
you
can
send
it
to
as
many
people
as
you'd
like
okay.
Thank
you.
AG
You're
talking
about
like
a
private
fueling
facility
to
give
other
areas
to
fill
up,
we
have
a
lot
of
vehicles.
Yeah
you
do
apps,
I
mean
that's
really.
What
we
see
is
the
future
here
all
it
takes
it's
very
much
a
domino
effect
with
these
facilities.
You've
got
one
in
an
area.
People
start
to
see,
there's
a
way
to
use
this
fuel
and
it
accelerates
from
there.
So
I
mean
that's
really
what
we
do
in
atlanta
right
now,
you're
doing
partnerships
with
other
cities.
L
AG
L
C
B
All
right
at
this
time,
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
Excuse
me
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session
for
matters
of
litigation.
Is
that
right,
mr
city
attorney
great.