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A
Columbus
Georgia:
this
is
your
city
council,
mayor
Teresa,
Tomlinson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley,
spawns
district
Glenn,
Davis
district
to
loose
district;
three
Evelyn
turnip,
you
mayor
pro-tem
and
district
4
Mike
Baker
district
5,
Terry,
Allen
district
6,
Mimi
Woodson
district
7,
Walter,
Garrett
district
8,
Judy,
Thomas,
post
9,
at-large,
councillor
penny
Washington,
click
of
Council
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
babe,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
City
Council.
Well,.
B
Good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
May
8
meeting
of
the
Columbus
City
Council,
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
with
us
this
morning
we
have
a
full
agenda
and
then
we
have
budget
hearings.
So
stick
around
it'll
be
a
full
day
of
your
government
at
work.
So
we're
going
to
invite
dr.
Marty
win
of
Light
House
Baptist
Church
forward
as
I
told
them.
We
always
need
prayers
some
days
more
than
others,
so
it's
budget
season
pray
for
us,
sir.
Hey.
C
C
C
Likewise,
any
city
or
municipality
may
also
be
blessed
as
they
as
it
acknowledges
you
in
its
Asians
and
its
directions.
Therefore,
we
humbly
come
before
your
throne
of
grace
this
morning
and
ask
for
your
guidance
and
for
your
wisdom
for
these.
Our
city's
leaders,
as
King
Solomon,
once
asked
you
not
for
wealth
nor
for
fame,
but
for
wisdom
that
he
might
know
how
to
properly
govern
the
people.
C
C
We
pray
our
dear
father
that
it
will
may
help
make
our
city
a
place
that
is
not
marred
by
division
or
strife,
but
a
place
where
all
peoples,
all
races,
all
ethnicities,
may
live
in
safety
and
in
harmony
together
we
pray
that
the
City
of
Columbus
will
be
governed
in
a
way
that
will
bring
honor
and
glory
to
your
great
name.
We
thank
you
for
the
gift
of
your
son,
who
provides
salvation
for
all
who
believe,
and
we
thank
you
also
for
these,
our
city
leaders.
B
Dr.
Wynne,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
being
with
us
this
morning
and
for
all
of
you
out
there
in
our
faith
community.
We
invite
you
to
to
come
by
and
provide
our
invocation
consistent
with
your
particular
faith
tradition.
You
can
contact
the
mayor's
office
if
you're
interested
and
now
we've
got
a
special
treat.
We've
got
the
Martin
Luther
King
jr.
elementary
school
students
and
we're
going
to
call
them
forward.
We've
got
a
microphone
here
at
the
front
desk.
You
come
forward.
E
E
F
B
B
H
Morning,
mayor
good
morning,
councillors
morning,
mr.
manager,
mr.
attorney
today,
I
bring
back
a
request
that
came
forward
from
counsel
Davis
last
week
during
the
council
budget
review
of
hearings,
and
today
that
is
the
request
to
authorize
an
audit
of
the
health
and
wellness
center
operated
by
the
city.
H
B
B
I
Morning
ma'am,
madam
mayor
man,
Mayor
Pro,
Tem
members
of
council,
mr.
city
manager
and
mr.
city
turns
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
update
you
on
the
regional
impact
of
a
Ford
bending
I
had
to
occasion
a
few
weeks
ago
to
do
a
presentation
to
the
River
Valley
Regional
Commission,
a
mayor
pro-tem
was
present
and
as
a
result
of
that,
this
yes,
that
I
come
forward
to
update
you
on
what
I
presented
at
that
meeting.
The
bottom
line
is
defense
is
big
in
Georgia
there,
so
you
see
there
about
20
billion
dollars.
I
So
we
don't
have
that
one
I
have
this
slide
to
show
you
from
a
magnitude
perspective
the
size
of
Fort
Benning
in
relationship
to
the
MSA
that
exist
for
Atlanta,
and
you
can
see
this
one
hundred
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
something
square
acres
that
exist
there
between
Georgia
and
Alabama
that
make
up
Fort
Benning.
When
we,
when
we
look
at
Fort
Benning
as
a
whole.
On
any
given
day.
I
Dollar
debt
and
President
Obama
created
the
supercommittee
five
Republicans,
four
Democrats,
one
independent
they
met
and
the
intent
was
to
say.
When
you
come
out
of
this
super
committee
meeting,
you
will
in
fact
have
reached
resolution
on
how
we
address
this
1.2
trillion
dollar
debt.
It
matters
not
whether
you
agree
or
disagree
with
President
Obama's
policies.
While
he
was
in
office,
you
must
acknowledge
he
was
a
phenomenal
strategist,
phenomenal
strategist
because
he
put
a
safety
catch
in
there.
I
If
you
don't
meet
the
government,
we
will
establish
an
issue
called
sequestration
and
then
we'll
take
X
amount
of
dollars
over
a
ten-year
period
from
the
defense
budget.
It
was
so
daunting
and
so
devastating
that
it
literally
put
a
gun
to
the
head
of
Department
of
Defense
and
in
everyone's
wildest
imagination
they
couldn't
fathom
that
actually
occurring.
I
Well,
everybody
got
real
smart
and
they
put
those
that
believe
to
the
extreme
with
their
party
and
no
resolution
was
met,
so
the
2011
Budget
Control
Act,
went
into
effect
the
first
part
of
that
there
was
a
two-phase
drawdown
420,000,
the
first
phase.
There
was
a
draw
down
on
some
80,000.
The
reality
was
when
they
drew
down
a
phenomenal
amount
of
brigades
that
went
from
45
to
32.
I
Fort
benning
actually
grew
during
that
time
when
there
was
actually
a
reduction,
and
that
too
has
to
go
to
a
special
thanks
to
this
City
Council
to
the
state,
because
we
were
allowed
to
give
presentations
of
Department
of
Army
team.
Now
some
they
say
that
would
just
smoke
and
mirrors
I
bring
this
one
up
to
show
you
that
it's
reality
ever
place.
I
There's
a
circle
that
Brigade
is
gone,
not
going
not
being
inactivated
but
gone
and
every
place
you
see
a
square
that
Brigade
is
gone
or
is
in
the
process,
the
one
exception
being
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
screen.
You'll
see
that
brigade
in
Alaska.
There
was
a
change
in
priorities
and
that
priorities
was
to
the
specific
rim
and
the
reality
is
the
state.
Alaska
has
two
senators
and.
J
I
I
I
During
that
time
we
had
the
opportunity
to
do
a
presentation
and
Fort
Benning
was
identified
to
lose
3402
positions
about
three
thousand
four
hundred
two
soldiers:
three
thousand
four
hundred
two
positions:
well,
we
really
met
with
Fort
Benning
and
about
that
time,
just
before
that
final
decision
was
released
with
Senator
Isakson
senator
Perdue,
congressman
Bishop
and
Congressman
Tom
graves
met
with
the
Secretary
of
the
army
laid
out
the
case
in
the
need
for
soldiers.
Active
army
forces
command,
go
to
war
units
to
be
at
Fort
Benning.
I
The
army
went
and
re
calibrated
how
they
wanted
to
approach
this,
and
instead
of
taking
the
entire
third
Brigade,
they
left
the
1st
battalion
28th
infantry
as
1,050
folks,
which
is
very
significant,
because
I
had
received
calls
from
Washington
and
I
quote:
Gary,
don't
burn
up
any
more
brain
cells
about
third
Brigade
is
gone.
Well,
we
refused
to
accept
that,
and
even
more
importantly,
our
contingent
in
Washington
refused
to
accept
that,
and
we
have
to
thank
our
contingent
as
well
as
former
secretary
of
Navy
will
ball.
I
That
worked
directly
for
the
governor
that
went
in
and
also
was
able
to
present
the
case
and
result
is
we
were
able
to
keep
a
thousand
and
fifty
soldiers?
In
addition,
the
soldiers
that
were
about
to
be
leaving
a
go
to
war
unit,
Fort
Benning,
said
we
have
valid
jobs
open
so,
instead
of
those
soldiers
to
leave
Fort
Benning,
they
were
reassigned
to
other
positions
at
Fort.
I
Benning
end
result
is
we
lost
two
thousand
four
hundred
soldiers
here
now
that's
significant
and
that
hurt
well
when
you
look
at
a
drawdown
of
120,000
and
our
part
was
2,400.
That
is
a
phenomenal
success
in
itself
and
I
applaud
each
of
you
and
your
efforts
in
accomplishing
that
during
that
time,
when
we're
about
to
draw
down,
we
had
the
Army's
position
change
and
during
that
time
then
they
said.
No,
we
don't
want
you
to
go
down
to
450,000.
We
want
you
to
go,
hold
it
four
hundred
and
sixty
thousand.
I
The
reality
is,
the
army
could
probably
have
a
larger
number,
but
it
just
wants
to
recruit
about
4,000
or
5,000
a
year
that
that
way,
it
maintains
a
quality
control
on
how
they're
growing
the
army
and
the
army
is
doing
very
well.
This
has
the
highest
retention
rate
has
ever
had.
People
are
relisting
at
a
phenomenal
rate
and
there
they're
going
out
because
the
economy
is
good.
It
presents
some
challenges
and
getting
soldiers
to
come
and
recruit
for
the
military.
I
If
our
economy
were
in
rough
shape,
it
would
be
easier
to
recruit
people
to
go
into
the
military,
so
the
Army's
having
some
challenges
that
time,
but
it's
really
trying
to
stay
about
4,000
a
year
if
it
grows
now
from
a
training
base
and
people
say
well.
Why
are
you
talking
about
training,
and
why
is
that
important?
I
These
numbers
that
you're
seeing
increases
up
there
has
already
taken
that
number
up
to
nine
point
six
and
it
probably
because
coming
closer
and
closer
to
ten
million
dollars
again
as
they
come
and
see
their
son
daughter
friend,
relative
graduate
out
at
Fort
Benning
and
enjoy
the
beauty
that
exists
here
in
Columbus
Georgia.
But
the
bottom
line
you'll
see
in
seventeen.
I
Instead
of
just
sixty
six
thousand,
we
had
about
seventy
four
thousand
trained
out
there
and
then
for
18
our
current
year,
we're
gonna
see
probably
closer
to
eighty
nine
thousand
being
trained
out
there,
and
next
year's
numbers
will
be
even
larger.
Now
this
one
I
put
in
there
only
if
you're
interested
in
the
Air
Force
of
the
Navy
and
Marine
Corps
and
the
Reserve
and
the
guard
and
so
forth,
you
can
follow
that.
The
bottom
line
is
across
the
top
there.
I
You
see
where
the
army
is
growing,
but
the
most
important
thing
is
based
on
the
requirements
is
placed
on
the
army
today
by
the
combatant
commanders.
The
army
needs
to
be
by
FY
28.
It
needs
to
be
about
five
hundred
thousand
right
now,
when
you
look
at
the
army
is
going
up
to
four
hundred
seventy
six,
it's
about
one
point
one
when
you
look
at
the
garden
and
your
active
army
during
that
time,
and
that's
where
they
want
to
be
during
this
time,
so
we're
seeing
real
growth
go,
go
they're,
a
thing!
I
That's
exciting
that
we're
finding
this
helping
with
that
growth
is
working
very
closely
with
Fort
Benning.
We
also
very
involved
with
saying
in
the
future:
Fort
Benning
develops
the
requirements,
wouldn't
it
be
new
and
exciting
to
have
the
developer,
be
co-located
with
our
quirements
and
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
beginning
to
target
entities
such
as
this
up
at
Natick
Massachusetts
and
we're
having
at
Fort
Belvoir
to
get
those
entities
that
are
the
developers
to
get
down
to
the
home
or
soldier
or
lethality.
I
In
addition
to
that,
Fort
Benning
is
phenomenally
fortunate
in
the
sense
that
the
chief
of
staff,
the
Army,
created
what
it
calls
cross-functional
teams.
That's
entities,
that's
designed
to
go
from
concept
to
production,
to
reduce
that
from
a
five-year
to
a
12-month
period.
These
individuals
meet
with
the
chief
of
staff
of
the
army,
the
vice
chief
and
the
Undersecretary
of
the
army.
Weekly,
not
teleconference,
not
phone
call
face
to
face
to
show
the
progress
they're,
making
it
cross-functional
teams
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
some
mortality.
I
So
every
one
of
these
cross-functional
teams
focused
on
soldier
locality
and
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
the
new
ground.
Combat
vehicle
is
going
as
being
worked
out
of
Fort
Benning
currently
by
the
armored
commandant,
but
it
appears
we'll
be
getting
an
extra
Brigadier
out
at
Fort
Benning
to
focus
on
that
area.
As
the
armored
commandant
will,
then
we'll
revert
back
to
focusing
on
being
the
chief
of
armor
and
so
forth.
So
we
see
potential
growth
right
there
and
the
other
thing
is
robotic
center
of
innovation.
I
We're
excited
about
this
because
robotics
is
the
wave
of
the
future.
Imagine
a
tank
platoon
in
the
past,
where
you'd
have
opportunity
during
three
other
huge
tanks.
Maneuvered
now
imagine
a
platoon
leader
in
one
tank
and
he's
got
four
autonomous,
robotic
tanks
maneuvering.
Can
they
be
much
smaller
because
you
don't
have
to
deal
with
protection
of
the
soldiers?
This
isn't
Star
Wars
stuff.
This
is
reality,
and
this
is
where
our
military
must
go
in
the
future.
I
When
we
look
at
that,
well,
we've
proposed
to
the
state
of
Georgia
in
the
process
working
it
with
Georgia's
Department
of
Economic
Development
is
basically
creating
a
technology
band,
a
defense
technology
band
that
goes
all
the
way
from
Augusta,
where
they
have
the
cyber
center
of
excellence
to
Warner
Robins,
just
teamed
with
Robins
Air
Force
Base,
where
they
have
this
the
Aerospace,
Center
innovation
and
we're
saying
you
have
the
maneuver
center
of
excellence.
You
have
Columbus
State
University.
Let's
create
a
robotic
center
of
innovation
right
here
in
in
Columbus
Georgia
number
one.
I
It
enhances
the
clout
of
Georgia
rather
than
just
have
a
high
couple
of
high
technology
centers,
you
have
a
band
that
goes
from
east
to
west
and
Georgia,
and
a
thing
I
believe
I
see
is
the
next
step.
There's
robotics
morph.
This
isn't
just
a
defense.
It
deals
with
Defense
Logistics
medical
manufacturing.
Just
take
a
look
at
that
Kia
plant
and
all
the
robotics
is
in
place
there
and
we're
saying.
Let
us
be
part
of
what
I
call
the
intellectual.
I
I
Cyber
it
takes
together,
aerospace.
It
takes
together
or
brings
together
what
happens
here
at
Benning
Tigh
to
Georgia
Tech,
and
it
also
goes
that
that
triangle
could
easily
expand
over
to
Auburn,
because
I'll
assure
you,
the
Defense
Department
is
not
concerned
about
a
state
boundary.
It
wants
to
communicate
with
the
intellectual
institution
that
can
accomplish
that,
but
the
bottom
line
is
I
want
to
leave
you
with
this
thought.
We've
got
to
stop
sequestration.
G
Mr.
John's,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
really
felt
when
I
heard
his
presentation
that
yeah
and
I'm
meeting
I
felt
that
was
their
important
arrest
accounts
on
the
rest
of
Columbus,
using
because
I
think
we
also
have
a
great
opportunity
to
involve
our
high
schools.
It
is
my
ultimate
goal
to
hope
that
not
only
stopping
at
the
college
that
would
get
our
kids
in
high
school
involved
in
robotic
sound
stuff.
Yes,.
I
Ma'am
yeah
there's
a
phenomenal
outreach
team
from
entrepreneurship
reaching
out
with
what's
going
on
in
high
school,
what's
going
on
and
it's
Columbus
State
University
and
Department
of
Army
and
Fort
Benning
are
excited
about
what
they're
seeing
there
we
do.
This
we're
now
working
very
closely
with.
I
Convention,
Visitors
Bureau.
We
hope
we
believe
all
indicators
are
that
the
National
Defense
Industrial
Association
will
have
their
robotics
call
for
their
annual
robotics
conference
here
in
Columbus
in
the
spring
or
summer
of
next
year.
That's
a
phenomenal
sweep
because
they
normally
have
it
in
Virginia.
Now
they've
come
down
and
they
came
down
and
met
with
us
and
we
brought
the
teams
together
to
talk,
and
so
we
see
robotics
is
of
is
a
wave
of
mutual.
K
I
L
What
we
had
a
presentation
here
a
couple
of
months
ago
from
Frank
Lumpkin,
the
fourth
about
interstate
14
and
his
dream
of
that
going
through
there.
Do
you
have
any
any
comment
on
that?
How
that
would
if
we
could
get
that
done,
how
that
might
affect
this
development
that
you're
talking
about
I'm,
sure
you're,
familiar
with
Frank's.
L
I
L
I
14
that
basically
was
started
in
El,
Paso,
Texas
and
end
up
in
Augusta.
We
see
this
as
putting
in
this
technology
band
as
as
support
of
the
need
to
the
link
14
that
would
tie
in
then
we
could
say
with
Eisenhower
interstate
system
that
you
could
link
three
military
bases
just
coming
across
Georgia
and
tie
into
14.
So
in
reality
we're
pre
positioning
the
advantages
of
14
being
well
accepted
here
in
Georgia
by
starting
with
this
effort.
Now
that.
L
L
75
percent
of
the
soldiers
in
the
military
today
have
family
members
who
served
and,
and
that
tradition
is
much
more
so
than
it
than
it
used
to
be.
But
I
want
to
thank
you
and
and
the
chamber
for
the
work
that
you
do
with
Fort
Benning
you're
always
right
on
top
of
things,
and
if
we
have
questions
you
always
either
know
the
answer
or
know
where
to
go.
Get
two
answers.
So
we
appreciate
it
well.
I
M
I
I
What
what
we've
done
to
encourage
this
growth
is
the
entrepreneur.
We
have
a
person
focus
on
nothing
but
entrepreneurship.
On
robotics
at
the
Columbus
chamber,
this
tied
into
the
Columbus
20:25
effort
he
spends
Frank
spends
extensive
amount
of
time
traveling
to
other
communities
to
Colorado
and
others
that
are
considered
tech
centers
to
go
talk
about
what
we're
doing
here
and
is
catching
more
and
more
attention.
I
In
addition
to
that,
we've
invited
out
the
capabilities
of
development
integration
director,
which
is
a
big
name
for
research
and
development
at
Fort,
Benning
out
to
see
what
we're
doing
and
they're
just
fascinated
with
it.
We're
in
the
process
of
teaming
of
having
Fort
Benning
team
with
us.
They
can't
endorse
us,
but
they
can
team
with
us
that
we
go
and
actually
have
a
robotics
war
game
coming
up
in
about
eight
months
that
we'll
be
inviting
people
in
from
all
across
the
United
States
to
come
in
and
they'll
have
robotics
battle.
I
We
each
other
and
some
will
be
small
one
foot
by
six
inch
and
others
will
be
ten
ten
foot
tall.
So
it
we're
doing
these
things
through
that
we're
excited
with
the
reality
that
at
koga
county
school
district,
that
the
focus
is
not
just
on
stem,
but
it's
on
steam,
because
they've
added
the
arts,
because
the
arts
are
like
mathematics,
is
the
right
side
of
the
brain
and
the
creative
piece.
That's
bringing
together
there
and
they're
very
supportive
of
the
area
on
robotics
and
have
schools
actually
very
involved
with
lydic.
M
N
M
Well,
I'm
glad
to
hear
that,
because
I'm
always
amazed
and
sometimes
when
he
brings
the
young
people
here
and
explain
to
us
what
they're
doing
I'm
like
basil
I'll
go
back
and
searching
the
internet
cuz.
It
went
completely
over
my
head
and
the
way
technology
is
today.
That's
where
we're
going
so.
Thank
you.
I
hope
you
can
keep
us
abreast
from
time
to
time,
because.
I
M
More
and
more
constituents
are
aware
there
are
a
lot
of
needs
for
jobs,
lots
of
times.
People
are
saying
we
want
to
keep
our
youth
here,
but
I
say
our
youth
go
and
experience
life
and
realize
that
Columbus
is
a
place
to
be
and
they
come
back
and
if
they
come
back
and
they
have
opportunities
like
this,
this
is
just
amazing
for
us,
so
we're.
M
And
I
think,
with
these
new
innovations,
I
think
you'll
be
surprised
and
with
the
mayor's
trail,
the
transit
trail
I'm,
pretty
surprised
this
community
is
in
for
a
rude
awakening
very
soon.
At
least
all
these
pieces
come
together
right
now.
It
seems
like
unreality,
you
can't
see
it,
but
I
think
if
you
have
a
vision-
and
you
have
faith
and
you
look
at
what
tomorrow
will
bring
Columbus's
is
a
perfect
place
to
be
at
and
a
perfect
place
to
invest.
Now,
because
later
it's
to
be
very
challenging,
you
can
see
it.
M
F
O
You,
mr.
gentleman,
so
it
sounds
like
you
guys
are
really
engaged
in
this
and,
of
course,
we
know
that
out
of
Fort
Benning
they've
been
involved
in
futuristic
weapons
development
for
a
while
and-
and
they
still
will
be-
and
you
know
it's
kind
of
interesting
when
some
of
these
guests
come
in
from
other
areas
of
our
country,
companies,
big
companies,
defense
contractors,
you
get
to
talk
to
them
and
you
kind
of
understand
how
how
they
operate
and
all
it's
it's.
O
It's
very
interesting
in
your
speaking
I
know,
there's
some
relationships
already
with
the
university
systems
and
on
certainly
we
have
some
great
university
systems
in
the
state
of
Georgia.
We've
got
Auburn
brought
across
the
way,
and
you
know
people
be
really
surprised
if
they
knew
what
goes
on
over
there
at
Auburn.
When
it
comes
to
defense
and
defense
of
this
country
and
in
the
programs
they
have.
O
You
know,
Georgia
Tech's
want
a
great
tech.
Schools
in
this
country,
I
think
there's
already
a
connection
there.
But
could
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
integration
of
our
university
systems
and
on
this
and
how
that's
working
and
in
this
area
robotic?
So
I'm
sure,
there's
already
a
connection
there,
but
where
is
that
going
CSU,
our
local
University
and
all
those
I
guess,
entities
that
are
in
that
field
of
higher
education
and
R&D
and
development
of
teaching
and
training
and
moving
forward
in
this
area?
Yes,.
I
Sir
Columbus
State
University
has
been
tasking
the
Regents
to
basically
pull
together
a
curriculum.
It's
focusing
on
robotics
and
the
innovation
that's
associated
with
that,
their
their
various
programs,
some
under
computer
science,
some
other
other
areas,
but
CSU,
is
actively
involved.
We
worked
very
closely
with
dr.
Richard
back
Baxter
and
he
has
the
lead
from
Columbus
State
University,
focusing
on
on
robotics
to
tie
in
so
that
when
we
do
that,
we
get
the
advantage
of
linking
the
university
system
together.
I
At
the
same
time,
Fort
Benning
has
has
met
more
than
as
met
a
series
of
times
with
Auburn
University
to
discuss
potential
there
as
well,
and
that
that
is
you
recall,
I
said
Department
of
Defense
will
not
worry
about.
A
state
boundary
is
worried
about
linking
the
academia
with
a
with
a
practical
and
experimental.
So
there's
good
progress
being
made
with
with
Columbus
State
University,
assuming
a
role
of
responsibility.
That's
tied
into
robotics
field,
and
the
thing
we're
focusing
on
is
robotics
is
for
more
than
just
defense.
Robotics
is
defense.
I
B
B
P
Right
Thank
You
mayor,
we
have
one
announcement.
The
demolition
ordinance
is
delayed
until
May
22nd.
If
there's
anybody
present
today
for
any
of
the
properties
slated
for
demolition.
They'll
come
back
in
two
weeks.
At
the
next
regular
meeting
mayor,
we
have
a
few
zoning
items.
The
first
one
up
for
vote
is
14
over
49.
Oh
seven
and
4909
11th
Avenue
the
Fox
petition
ready
for
action.
B
B
B
P
N
B
Right
we've
got
a
motion
in
second
for
approval.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
item?
Seeing
none
will
queue
it
for
voting
Bruce.
Tell
us
when
we're
ready.
Are
we
ready?
Okay,
let's
go
and
again
it
looks
like
one
more:
are
we
having
trouble
with
councilor?
Just
so
we
know.
Is
it
okay?
There
we
go
all
right.
I
just
was
trying
to
see
if
there
was
an
electronic
issue,
all
right,
it
did
pass.
P
Next
items
are
zoning
public
hearings,
the
first
one
up
is
3784
gram
way.
It's
going
from
SF
r2
to
residential
multifamily.
One
was
delayed,
so
mr.
Wright
weight
could
be
here.
I
see
the
petitioner
is
anybody
in
the
audience
that
wants
to
be
heard
in
opposition
to
this
petition
mine
ain't
questions
from
councillors
around
the
table,
I.
P
Right,
mr.
Wade,
we
will
bring
that
back
for
a
vote
in
in
two
weeks
the
regular
meeting.
Thank
you.
Next
one
is
3705
and
3709
gentian
boulevard,
going
from
neighborhood
commercial
to
general
commercial
shopping
center
proposed
use
mr.
Hayes,
the
petitioner
is
here
anybody
opposed
in
the
audience
any
questions
of
counsel.
P
B
P
J
B
R
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much,
I'm
christopher
s,
reyes
resident
homeowner
at
the
environmental
violation,
cross
contamination
site
of
7200
spring
Brook,
Drive,
Columbus,
Georgia,
three-word,
909,
adjacent
to
rim,
wood
section
to
residential
development
downstream
and
adjacent
to
win
rim,
wood
section
to
down
stream
from
a
sewer
main
flow
and
downstream
from
Flat
Rock
branch
Creek
flood.
R
Okay,
now
in
April,
2015
I
met
with
Chuck
McClure
at
the
entrance
of
REM
wood
section
two,
and
he
revealed
to
me
the
plans
of
the
development
that
were
approved
by
council
members.
The
plans
stated
that
there
was
a
sewer
main
pipe
that
came
on
my
property.
That
I
was
never
aware
of
that
ran
from
east
to
west
city
council
members
were
guided
by
city
engineering
to
vote
on
this
sewer
land
pipe
to
have
added
sewer
transported
from
east
to
west
onto
my
private
property.
R
Now
this
development
has
been
put
into
a
feat
is
developed
in
a
FEMA
flood
zone.
Okay,
this
sewer
main
that
City
Council
approved
that
runs
from
east
to
west
is
documented
to
be
flat.
Okay,
now
the
man
hold
on
my
side
is
to
the
west
and
this
one
over
here
on
rim.
Wood
is
four
hundred
and
twelve
foot
distance.
Now,
to
give
you
an
idea
of
that
distance,
you're
talking
about
a
football
field
is
300
feet
long.
This
room
here
is
approximately
100
feet
long.
R
Okay,
now
that
the
engineering
department
has
let
you
guys
approve
the
sewer
lane
showing
no
fall.
Okay,
it's
based
on
gravity
slope,
so
you
guys
approved
a
sewer
vane
showing
from
412
feet.
No
elevation
fall
with
even
documented,
even
elevation
numbers-
okay,
you
didn't
know
that
and
I
understand
that,
but
you
should
have
been
made
aware
of
this,
because
you're
adding
and
approving
comments
for
RIM
wood
to
destroy
the
additional
sewer
into
this
faulty
sewer
main
design
onto
my
private
property.
R
It's
sitting
on
my
property
right
now
leaking
okay,
because
this,
the
city
Columbus
consolidated
government,
has
no
easement
allowing
their
employees
to
come
on
that
property
and
maintain
the
trees.
Okay,
so
there's
trees
growing
in
this
pipe
right
now,
I
have
documentation
from
third
parties
and
DVDs
that
I
can
present
the
councilmembers,
showing
that
the
roots
have
caused
blockage
in
the
pipe,
because
I
wanted
to
see
what
this
pipe
was
all
about.
If
it
was
shallow.
R
R
R
Now
I
am
requesting
city
of
councilmembers
to
remove
this
pipe
from
my
property
or
make
it
watertight
and
waterproof
I've
had
city
come
out.
Giles
Chris
Brown
referred
there
their
complaint
to
see
the
engineering
because
they
discovered
that
the
the
David
X
in
the
developer
got
in
a
hurry
and
put
stormwater
pipes
that
are
non
watertight.
On
top
of
the
sewer
made
now
the
reason
I've
got
this
camera
is
because
it's
been
on
my
neck
for
three
years.
R
Taking
pictures
of
every
event
that's
occurred,
I
know
the
stormwater
pipes
are
not
separated
and
I
know
that
they've
got
fresh
water
running
across
a
sewer
main
pipe
on
folks
properties
that
just
bought
brand-new
houses.
That's
a
five
little
violation
due
to
non
standards
that
needed
to
be
applied
in
a
FEMA
flood
zone.
Okay,
if
you've
got
a
leaking
pipe,
that
is
a
half
mile
from
Flat
Rock
park
that
runs
along
along
the
flatlock
branch
park.
This
thing
can
contaminate
the
entire
Flat
Rock
park.
R
Okay
right
now
the
squirrels
won't
even
go
in
the
bathrooms
at
flatlock
Park.
All
right.
You
are
not
trying
to
attract
a
lot
of
people
to
Flat
Rock
Park
by
improving
the
park
itself
and
now.
I
know
why
I
know
that
you
guys
know
that
that
Lake
has
no
fish
in
it.
No
more
because
of
the
runoff
from
rim
wood,
one
member
to
Spring,
Creek
chapel
Lakes,
all
that
runoff
is
polluting
the
park
and
unless
this
because
its
water
tight
by
council
members-
and
they
changed
the
mistake-
that's
documented
it
has
me
involved.
R
R
It
states
that
the
residents
of
Springbrook
Crossing
will
not
hold
the
Columbus
consolidated
government
responsible
for
drainage,
sewer,
drainage,
Street,
widening
any
kind
of
drainage
for
a
period
of
20
years.
Alright,
now
that
was
filed,
March
1991
20
years
is
2011
that
this
expired.
This
is
a
city
record
that
states
Columbus,
consolidate.
Government
is
responsible
for
putting
a
sewer
main
on
my
property
in
a
female
flood
zone,
potentially
contaminate
flatlock
part
and
my
property.
It
is
contaminating
our
property
now,
because
I've
got
evidence
and
DVDs
showing
the
blockage
in
the
pipe
to
different
center
party.
R
Vendors
came
on
my
property
and
ran
their
cameras
where
my
residential
lateral
comes
out
on
a
sewer
main.
Now,
that's
the
big
problem
as
Columbus
Water
Works
knows
about
this.
They
put
my
residential
ladder,
lateral,
auto
sewer
main.
They
should
have
never
done
that
as
to
hazardous.
It's
too
risky.
Okay,
the
fact
that
the
sewer
main
does
not
have
proper
slope
every
100
feet
going
through
this
room,
which
is
for
these
rooms
from
manhole
to
manhole.
R
B
All
right,
mr.
Reyes,
we
appreciate
it.
That's
your
full
ten
minutes
and
and
of
course,
these
matters
are
always
very
of
interest
and
concern
to
us
and
anytime
there's
development
in
the
community.
So
we
appreciate
you
bringing
these
issues
to
our
attention
at
this
time,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager.
Thank
you,
sir
Thank.
S
You
Man,
thank
you.
Madam
mayor
I've
got
city,
engineer,
Donna
Neumann
here
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
her
to
come
forward
in
just
a
second
to
come
in
on
some
of
the
observations
or
things
that
mr.
Reyes
believes
to
be
true.
But
let
me
just
first
say
that
mr.
Reyes
called
any
work
order
recently
requested
that
some
pipes
be
blown
out
and
and
so
staff
sent
out
the
adductor
truck
and
I
hurt.
You
mention
the
names
mr.
Giles
and
mr.
S
Thomas,
and
you
said
that
they
discover
it
and
then
you
went
on
to
say
some
things
that
you
believe
they
discovered
and
so
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
be
clear
that
both
mr.
Giles
and
mr.
Thomas
are
equipment
operators.
In
other
words,
they
drive
an
abductor
truck
and
they
blow
out
pipes,
and
they
are
not
city
engineers.
By
any
stretch,
they
do
exactly
that.
S
They
are
equipment
operators,
and
so
they
don't
have
any
expertise
to
discover
anything
beyond
and
operating
an
adduct
a
truck
when
it
comes
to
engineering
related
matters,
and
so
staff
have
shared
with
me
that
while
these
equipment
operators
were
on
site
tending
to
what
they
were
sent
out
there
to
do
and
that's
to
blow
out
pipes
while
they
were
there
cleaning
out
the
pipes,
they
were
approached
by
mr.
ray,
who
asked
them
to
follow
him
to
the
back
of
his
property
because
he
wanted
to
show
them
some
issues.
S
S
Reyes,
and
they
were
asked
by
the
supervisor
to
look
at
the
work
orders
where
they
made
some
comments
and
because
it
sounded
like
they
made
observations
and
after
reviewing
those,
they
understood
that
some
of
the
comments
sounded
that
way,
but
they
both
insisted.
That
was
not
the
case
and
said
that
those
were
things
that
they
were
relaying
that
were
said
by
mr.
Reyes,
and
so
they
indicated
they
were
listening
and
going
along
with
mr.
Reyes
out
of
courtesy.
S
S
Reyes,
as
the
engineer
comes
forward,
to
come
in
on
the
things
that
you've
talked
about
when
we
have
employees
who,
if
they
feel
potholes,
you
know
they
don't
resurface
streets
and
if
they
drive
eductor
trucks,
they
don't
deal
with
drainage
issues
that
it's
an
engineer
should
be
dealing
with
and
out
of
courtesy.
They
tell
me
that
they
went
to
the
back
of
mr.
S
Reyes
property
at
his
request
and
they
listened
for
one
and
a
half
hours
and
they
should
have
been
operating
in
deduct
a
truck
so
I
wanted
you
to
have
the
benefit
of
knowing
when
mr.
Rey
has
come
in
at
that.
Mr.
Giles
and
mr.
Thomas
discovered
some
things.
The
only
thing
they
should
have
been
able
to
discover
was
whether
the
pipe
needs
to
be
cleaned
out
or
not,
and
and
nothing
related
to
drainage
issues.
With
that
city
engineer,
would
you
just
come
in
on
some
of
the
things
that
mr.
T
T
There
have
been
several
meetings
with
the
waterworks
and
mr.
Reyes
related
to
that
sewer.
The
waterworks
had
an
independent
third
party,
look
at
the
sewer
for
proper
design
and
construction,
and
they
have
verified
that
it
is
in
fact
has
the
capacity
to
accept
the
sanitary
sewer
from
the
rim.
Would
there
is
no
evidence
of
contamination
or
sanitary
sewer
getting
out
of
the
the
existing
sanitary
sewer?
That's
on
his
property.
My
understanding
is,
there
was
an
easement
that
was
obtained
in
mr.
Reyes.
For
that
sanitary
sewer.
That's
on
his
property.
T
T
Storm
sewer
is
gravity-fed,
so
it
is
not
uncommon
for
them
to
cross
one
another
sometime.
The
sanitary
goes
over
the
storm.
Sometimes
the
storm
goes
over
the
sanitary
we
find
that
all
over
the
city
simply
because
they
tend
to
they
both
tend
to
go
to
the
lowest
elevation
of
the
property,
so
they
are
always
not
always,
but
a
majority
of
the
time
in
common
areas,
so
one
or
the
other
is
going
to
cross.
So
that
is
not
uncommon
as
well.
T
Q
You
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
remind
counsel
that
mr.
Reyes
was
here
a
short
time
ago.
Councillor
Barnes
was
kind
enough
to
join
me
in
a
site
visit
to
the
property
where
mr.
Newman
joined
us.
There
were
two
or
three
attorneys.
There
were
several
engineers
from
both
the
waterworks
and
the
city.
There
rain
water
management,
I,
believe,
is
represented
there.
So
we've
had
we
spent
quite
a
long
time
there
looking
at
the
property.
Q
The
next
meeting
we
had
was
with
the
city
attorney
in
his
office
with
mr.
Reyes
I.
Believe
his
wife
was
there,
the
legal
team
from
the
waterworks
was
there.
We
talked
through
about
an
hour
and
a
half
or
two
hours
worth
of
discussion
with
mr.
Reyes
and
his
concerns
and
I
think
I
thought.
At
that
point.
We
had
addressed
his
concerns
and
the
waterworks
had
agreed
to
resolve
some
of
the
issues
he
mentioned
today.
I'm,
not
sure
why
he
keeps
bringing
these
up
keeps
coming
back
to
counsel.
Q
Some
of
those
even
include
copies
of
emails
he
sent
to
the
city
or
to
the
waterworks.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
effort
time.
Energy
spent
on
not
only
the
city's
behalf
in
engineering
behalf,
but
on
Water
Works
and
their
time
there
have
been
numerous
calls
from
mr.
Reyes
to
the
waterworks
to
go
out
and
respond
to
pipes
that
are
leaking
or
have
been
damaged,
or
whatever
only
to
find
that
they're
working
in
proper
order
we
have
over
and
over
advised
both
the
city
and
the
waterworks
has
advised
mr.
Q
Reyes
to
seek
legal
counsel
to
help
him
find
some
resolve
to
his
concerns
and
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
just
not
sure
exactly
where
we're
going
now.
But
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
the
city
has
done.
The
waterworks
has
done
everything
they
can
do.
They've
gone
above
and
beyond
numerous
times
to
try
to
react
to
mr.
Q
Reyes
concerns
and
address
every
issue
that
he's
brought
up
so
I'm,
just
at
the
point
where
I'm
sure
exactly
what
else
we
can
do
until
you
know
he
talks
to
an
attorney
and
tries
to
get
some
legal
counsel
and
I.
Think
counsel.
Barnes
agrees
with
that
and
city
attorney
and
the
waterworks
a
legal
team
as
well.
So
we've
done
all
we
can
do
so.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
for
everybody's
benefit.
Okay,
thank.
B
N
Mr.
Reyes
I
went
out
there
because
of
you,
you're
a
citizen,
and
you
have
a
concern
and
we
did
spend
a
good
deal
of
time
out
there
and
I
know
that
on
two
occasions
that
counselor
Allen
did
advise
you
because
I
followed
up,
because
I
wanted
to
be
sure
that
I,
first
of
all,
that
I
heard
him
correctly
and
secondly,
that
you
understood
and
and
really
because
this
is
an
ongoing
issue
with
you
and
you
know,
perception
is
98
percent
of
reality
for
anyone.
The
way
you
resolve
it
is
for
you
to
get
an
attorney.
N
I
know
you're
going
to
have
to
spend
some
money.
But
if
it's
going
to
ease
your
mind,
it
would
be
the
best
advice
that
counsel,
Allen
and
I
can
can
give
you
because
I
do
want
you
to
be
satisfied.
You're,
a
citizen,
you're,
a
taxpayer
and
so
I
want
you
to
be
satisfied
that
that
everything,
the
city,
the
waterworks,
should
be
doing
they're
doing
I
want
this
I
want
you
to
resolve
this
problem
and
the
only
way
really
that
you're
going
to
resolve
it
is
to
get
an
attorney
that
wolf.
N
If
you
feel
that
the
city
is
remiss
in
doing
something,
then
it's
your
right
to
pursue
it,
but
the
only
way
you
can
do
it
effectively
is
to
bring
an
attorney
who
will
know
exactly
what
needs
to
be
done
and
hold
the
city
accountable.
If
the
city
is
not
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do
so
I
just
wished
because
you've
been
you
have
been
down
here
and
I
and,
quite
frankly,
I
do
I,
just
I
do
sense.
Your
frustration
I
do
sense.
Your
frustration
and
I
know
you're,
not
just
bringing
blowing
smoke.
N
B
U
U
U
U
Today's
changes,
even
myself
when
it
come
to
this
new
technology
I,
do
know
how
to
Google
I
do
not
how
to
text,
but
then,
when
it
comes
to
some
of
the
other
things,
the
old
folks
don't
know
how
to
do
it
and
we
are
willing
to
learn.
So
will
you
please
get
the
information
out
where
we
can
go
to
learn?
Another
thing
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
about.
U
Is
your
city
meetings
I
heard
that
there
will
be
three
meetings:
Planning
Committee
they're,
going
to
take
suggestion
how
to
make
Columbus
a
better
place
for
the
next
20
years,
but
I
also
heard
they're
all
at
night,
when
some
of
us
old
folks
are
afraid
to
come
out
at
night.
I
was
hoping
that
maybe
you
could
think
about
if
it's
not
too
late,
the
hell
one
of
those
advertise
and
change
to
daytime.
We
got
ideas.
Still.
U
You
know
so
think
about
the
meetings
you
have
here
think
about
how
we
struggle
to
help
to
think
about
having
some
during
the
daytime
think
about
educating
us
how
to
get
caught
up
somewhat.
Sometimes
our
children,
they
have
the
jobs
they're
very
busy,
so
maybe
I
have
a
little
bit
of
money
to
put
towards
teaching
us
how
to
catch
up
on
this
new
items.
U
Okay,
another
thing
I
want
to
talk
about:
I
went
to
peachtree
mall
and
I
got
caught
up
there
at
night,
because
I
was
trying
to
find
something
and
I
don't
know
all
the
stores,
but
I
went
to
JC
Penney's
and
I
was
so
tired
I'm
they
had
a
bench
there
and
I
took
a
seat,
and
so
did
some
other
people
and
all
of
a
sudden.
The
people
jumped
up
young
people.
U
I
couldn't
jump
up
start
running
towards
dealers
and
I
said
what's
going
on
right
and
they
said
the
doors
gonna
close
the
doors
gonna
come
I
should
tell
them.
No
clothes
to
throw
this
all
babies
trying
to
get
their
tailor
and
the
girl
yeah
this
old
lady
trying
to
get
through
and
when
I
got
through
I
was
so
tired.
It
was
officer,
then
he
came
towards
me.
I
know
he
thought.
U
I
was
gonna
pass
out
because
I
thought
I'm
gonna
pass
out
too
and
I
say:
I
didn't
know
this
I
didn't
know
the
doors
would
go.
Just
he
says:
Dylan's
we
can't
control
Diller
I
said
well,
don't
you
have
an
ounce
minutes
I'll
give
me
I
want
to
get
people
who
want
it.
He
said
yeah,
but
we
don't
know
how
to
operate
that
system.
So
could
you
look
into
that?
Please?
U
Another
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
more.
Let
people
know,
maybe
you
got
some
kind
of
class
or
something
bus,
oh
folks.
So
when
we
do
come
to
the
City
Council
meeting,
we
feel
more
comfortable
in
participating.
We
don't
know
all
the
rules
and
like
I
say
we
like
learning
and
I,
want
to
talk
about
that.
U
Well,
the
last
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
I
noticed
we
have
some
females
on
the
City
Council
meeting
and
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
wish
all
of
you,
mothers
a
blessed
blessed
blessed
Mother's,
Day
and
also
those
mothers
who
God
chose
to
raise
somebody
else.
Children,
Blessed,
Mother's,
Day
to
you
and
thank
you
and
I.
U
B
B
We
don't
have
much
to
do
with
Dillard's
or
the
mall,
since
it's
private
but
I
know
they
watch
this
show,
and
so
I
bet
the
director
of
that
mall
I
heard
you
loud
and
clear,
so
we'll
we'll
get
that
message
to
them
and
several
of
the
other
things
you
you
mentioned
so
Alexis
will
come
around
to
see
you
and
we've
got
counsel
Barnes
who's.
Our
our
council
expert
on
the
Veterans
Day
Parade
I,
know.
N
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
the
fact
of
meetings,
because
I've
heard
this
before,
if
we
can
ever
have
a
meeting
that
the
seniors
can
carry
a
lot
of
the
seniors,
don't
drive
anymore
and
it's
it
would
be
more
convenient
if
we
and
their
concerns
about
safety.
But
that's
a
very
good
point.
A
lot
of
the
seniors
can't
come
out
at
night
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
transportation.
S
M
Mother-Love,
thank
you
for
coming
today
and
bringing
this
to
our
attention
and
thank
you
for
your
service.
I
see
the
white
cat
I
like
to
know
where
you
got
that
hat,
because
I
was
the
last
class
of
little
wax
when
it
disembarked
in
late,
77,
78.
So
I'm
interested
and
I
wanted
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
manager
for
that
meeting.
Could
we
have
it
at
the
gallop
Center,
where
most
of
the
senior
activities
that
the
mayor
had
spoken
about?
M
If
we
can
do
that,
all
at
that
location,
I
think
it
will
be
easier
for
senior
citizens
to
go
into
that
look
and
how
these
services
needed,
or
any
other
anyone
watching
in
the
community
that
provides
the
service,
probably
partner
up
with
parks
and
rep
in
the
Gallup
Center
and
make
is,
since
that
is
the
Senior
Center
make
that
a
place
where
mama
and
anyone
else
that's
interested
can
go.
And
this
way
too,
we
can
work
with
the
metro
to
see
about
the
transportation.
M
If
we
can
just
all
cooperate
together
to
make
that
you
know
feasible
for
you,
and
we
do
here
and
you're
very
loud
and
clear,
and
we
have
seniors
too
and
one
day
will
be
where
you're
at
so.
Please
don't
feel
that
no
one's
listening
because
we
are-
and
your
sign
is
correct.
We
need
to
bring
in
God's
in
control
every
day
when
we
wake
up
and
go
to
bed
and
I.
Appreciate
you
in
your
service
to
our
military
and
later
I
want
to
know
where
you
got
your
hat.
Cuz
I
got
mine.
Okay,.
U
I
got
it
from
Fort
Benning.
My
momma
got
a
shock
when
I
stepped
on
the
front.
Porch
went
with
the
pack
suitcase
when
that
recruiter.
When
the
recruiter
showed
up,
they
wanted
to
know
who
he
was
back,
then
they
didn't
know
that
white
man,
because
he
wasn't
Iceman
the
best
Superman
item,
medicine
man
and
they
wanted
to
know
I
knew
when
I
stepped
on
the
front
foot
with
my
family.
M
My
story
is
similar
to
yours.
My
parents
didn't
agree
with
me
going
in
the
military,
and
my
recruiter
was
outside
waiting
and
I
quietly
left
the
house
to
to
join
the
military.
So
we
have
a
lot
in
common
and
again,
thank
you
for
your
service.
Those
were
some
tough
years
and
for
you
to
be
a
WAC,
is
you
need
to
be
very
proud
because
they
didn't
give
us
any
slack
whatsoever.
I
was
a
challenge
and
made
us
the
women.
We
are
today
and
made
you
who
you
are
so.
G
On
and
thank
you
for
that,
Mother's
Day
greetings
and
also
to
you,
Thank
You,
mr.
manager,
if
you
can
pass
along
to
mr.
domes,
let's
make
this
a
bit
seniors
day
if
we
have
on
the
Saturday,
let's
get
Metro
and
prompts
and
rec
to
corporate
together
to
some
kind
of
way
bring
the
senior
citizens
from
the
other
senior
citizens
sense
to
the
Gallup
Center
and
just
have
one
big
day,
but
don't
try
to
do
it
at
me.
M
G
G
S
J
U
W
Morning,
mother
though
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
here
and
keeping
us
aware,
I
want
to
piggyback
with
councilor
Woodson
in
the
mayor
pro-tem.
We
have
a
Senior
Program,
also
in
the
Frank
Chester
rec
center,
so
I
just
wanted
to
piggyback
with
the
city
manager
to
make
sure,
but
they
have
just
said
they
will
include
all
seniors.
So
that
was
that's
what
I
had
on
my
mind.
It
makes
you
it
because
the
Senior
Program
is
very
active
at
Frank,
Chester
and
I
didn't
want
anybody
to
be
left
out.
W
B
X
About
mayor,
madam
clerk,
the
city
manager,
missus
attorney
members
of
council
good
morning
to
everybody
I'm
here
today
to
talk
to
you
about
crime.
Sure
everybody
here
probably
know
me.
My
name
is
Byron
Katie
I'm,
a
retired
police
officer
with
the
Columbus
Police
Department
and
I
worked
there
for
30
years
before
retiring.
X
So
crime
is
something
that
I'm
concerned
about
that
is
happening
in
our
city.
Had
the
opportunity
on
yesterday
to
sit
and
talk
with
the
chief
born,
who
gave
me
some
numbers
of
from
the
spreadsheet
a
courtly
part.
One
crime
comparison
from
2008
to
2018
and
on
this
spreadsheet
shows
that
in
that
10-year
period,
that
we've
had
220
people,
that's
been
killed
here
in
our
city
and
with
a
population
of
two
hundred
and
three
thousand
people.
X
X
Aside
from
the
433
or
488
that's
the
number
was
by
a
vacant
sees
there
now.
The
other
thing
was
benefits.
It's
my
understanding
that
retention
is
an
issue,
do
the
benefits
and
also
due
to
the
compression
issue.
That
was
a
long
time
issue
and
concerned
when
I
was
there
as
a
police
officer,
an
issue
that
hadn't
been
addressed
yet
by
this
council
and
the
compression
issue
creates
more
retention,
the
benefits
package
we're
losing
officers
to
neighboring
agencies
because
they
have
better
benefit
packages.
X
I
know
that
we
have
address
the
incoming
pay
with
people
having
different
degrees.
You
know
undergraduate
graduate
degree
you
get
paid
more,
but
what
that
end
up
doing
is,
if
we're
not
addressing
the
people
in
the
middle,
we
continue
to
create
a
more
compressed
issue
for
those
officers.
So
what
they're
doing
is
when
they
see
something
better
benefit
wise?
It
may
not
be
the
front.
End
paper
benefit
wise
if
they
still
can
save
money
that
way
from
their
benefits,
then
they're.
X
Moving
on
to
these
other
agencies
and
studies
have
shown
that
when
you
lose
an
experienced
officers
from
your
police
force,
it's
gonna
be
an
increase
in
crimes
and
and
part
one
crimes
at
that,
simply
because
the
experienced
officers
have
the
opportunity
of
being
out
on
the
streets
after
cultivating
informants
over
a
period
of
time
can
make
contact
with
people
to
help
probably
keep
this.
The
killings,
the
murder
rate
that
we
have
under
control.
X
But
when
you
have
these
people
leaving
your
agency
and
go
in
other
places,
then
the
new
officers-
they
don't
have
that
long
term.
Experience
that
these
other
officers
who
were
losing
through
retention
issues
would
have-
and
so
you
know
I'm
here
today
to
see
you
know
what
can
we
do
as
as
as
a
council
as
citizens,
because
I
know
we
can
do
better.
X
You
know
what
what
can
we
do
to
help
get
this
problem
on
the
controller
currently
right
now,
in
the
first
quarter,
we've
had,
according
to
the
numbers
that
the
chief
gave
me
yesterday,
we've
had
eight
people
to
get
killed
and
I
know
that
the
coroner's
numbers
is
gonna,
be
different,
because
you
know
that
you
know
he.
You
know.
Homicides
and
murders
are
something
different,
but
according
to
with
the
numbers
that
that
I
received
from
the
chief
there
are
eight
people
and
we're
just
in
the
month
of
May.
That's
been
killed.
X
Mother
loves
just
said
from
the
moment
ago.
She
afraid
leave
our
house
that
night
because
of
the
issues
that
we're
having
in
our
community
and
looking
at
the
faces
of
the
people
involved,
it's
black
on
black
crime.
We
got,
we
got
a
serious
problem
in
our
community.
We
got
a
serious
problem
in
our
community
and
and
councilman
Woodson
was
saying
a
moment
ago
when
the
gentleman
from
Fort
Benning
was
here
speaking
about
you
know.
Columbus
is
is
a
great
place
to
be
it's
some
exciting
times,
but
I
promise
you.
X
If
we
don't
get
our
crime
rate
on
control,
it's
gonna
be
a
terrible
place
to
be.
It's
gonna,
be
some
sad
times
so
it's
time
for
us
to
start
taking
care
of
the
people
who
take
care
of
us.
We've
got
to
come
together
because
I
know
we
can
do
better.
I
know
that
each
of
you
are
concerned
about
the
crime
issues
the
crime
problems
in
this
community
and,
like
I,
said,
if
people
ask
me
sometimes
so,
where's
the
worst
part
in
Columbus
new
people
who
move
I,
say:
hey,
you
can
become
a
victim
anywhere.
X
You
don't
have
to
just
live
in
South
Columbus
to
become
a
victim,
because
if
you
live
anywhere
else,
you
still
got
to
go
to
the
gas
station.
You
still
got
to
go
to
the
grocery
store.
You
can
be
a
victim
anywhere
because
predators,
they
don't
care,
and
it
brings
me
to
my
last
question
and
it's
a
question
that
I
can't
seem
to
get
an
answer
for
in
2008
when
chief
Wellington,
former
chief
Weldon
was
the
mayor.
He
proposed
that
we
did,
who
do
another
local
option.
X
Sales
tax
I
been
a
citizen
as
well
employed
at
the
time
with
the
police
department
voted
for
that
old
loss.
Currently,
there
are
17
million
dollars
41
days
of
that
sin
in
reserve.
It
was
never
voted
on
to
be
sitting
in
the
reserve
to
help
with
the
reserve
to
keep
it
above
60
days.
I
cannot
get
a
straight
answer
from
anybody
that
I
asked.
Why
is
17
million
dollars
of
the
old
loss
that
could
be
used
to
assist
with
Public
Safety
being
used
to
sit
in
reserve
when
the
citizens
never
voted
on?
X
That
and
I
would
like
to
see
someone
you
know
share
announcer
with
me.
Give
me
an
answer,
or
you
know
possibly
make
a
proposal
or
a
motion
shall
I
say
now
to
propose
a
motion
that
we
revisit
this
Olas
so
that
we
can
earmark
the
money
for
what
the
taxpayers
intended
for
to
be
used,
for
it
was
never
intended
to
be
used
for
the
reserve
for
savings
yeah.
It
was
never
intended,
even
if
I
would
have
known
that
it
was
gonna
be
used
for
that
I
would
never
voted
for
it.
X
I
would
never
voted
for
it
now.
What
does
17
million
dollars
do
as
a
build-up
from
over
a
period
of
six
years?
I
think
that
you
know
it
could
begin
to
address
the
compression
issue.
What
we
can
retain
experienced
officers
and
people
here.
Maybe
it
could
help
offset
the
benefits
where
we
can
retain
officers
and
keep
them
here
to
serve
this
community
and
to
continue
to
protect
this
community.
X
You
know
our
elderly,
like
our
mother
loved,
you
know
my
dad
who's
85
years
old
and
I
know
some
of
you
up
here,
privacy
of
your
having
your
parents
living
and
then
even
myself,
I'm
getting
to
that
senior
age.
Now
you
know
so
you
know,
I
would
like
to
know
that
that
we
have
a
qualified,
well
trained
police
department,
that's
in
place
that
when
they
respond
to
these
9-1-1
calls
that
they
are
out
here.
Industries
been
crying
down
so
that
Columbus
can
be.
That
idea
place
that
you
were
speaking
about
councilman
Woodson.
X
That
Columbus
could
be
that
that
idea
City
you
know
so
that
mother
love
don't
have
to
worry
about
leaving
out
at
night
and
someone
you
know
harming
her
in
any
kind
of
way.
So
I
rest
with
that,
hoping
that
you
know
we
as
a
body
as
citizens
and
that's
council
people,
the
mayor,
we
can
come
together
with
a
solution
on
what
can
we
do
to
help
keep
this
problem
under
control,
because
right
now,
like
I,
said
it's,
it's
just
me.
Some
random
got
here.
X
B
M
Y
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Hickey
for
being
here
today
and
for
spending
time
on
the
Public
Safety
Advisory
Commission,
which
is
not
paid,
and
he
does
that
and
he
attends
every
meeting
and
I
appreciate
it
burn
and
I
did
give
did
meet
with
him
s.
Today
we
had
about
an
hour
conversation
and
I
did
give
him
copies
of
the
chart.
Y
We
have
shown
a
continual
decrease
in
part
one
crimes
from
1985
until
the
day
this
date,
the
first
quarter
of
this
year
is
still
on
course.
It's
still
down
the
thing
that
we're
seeing
an
upswing
in
is
is
homicides
and
we're
on
the
scene
right
now
in
North
Columbus.
That
appears
to
be
a
murder-suicide,
but
that
investigation
is
just
just
starting
and
it
appears
to
being
domestic
violence.
Y
We've
had
a
total
of
12
murders
since
the
first
of
the
year,
eight
in
the
first
quarter,
and
our
investigation
is
showing
that
six
of
those
are
domestic
violence,
most
of
which
are
happening
in
the
home
as
a
result
of
a
relationship.
Three
of
those
we
have
associated
with
as
drug
related.
The
other
three
are
undetermined
at
this
time,
because
we're
still
in
the
process
of
investigating
and
then
the
one
today
appears
face
value
appears
to
be
a
murder-suicide
in
a
residence
on
north
end
of
Columbus.
Y
We
keep
and
watch
and
maintain
very
good
records.
We
have
a
an
intelligence,
lead
police
department
and
we
have
analysts
that
do
nothing
during
the
day
other
than
follow
crime.
Look
at
crime,
look
at
trends,
look
at
arrests,
look
at
associations
with
individuals
and
then
that
information
is
documented
and
passed
on
to
the
straight
to
the
cars
in
those
areas.
We
then
take
in
detail
cars
to
certain
areas
where
we're
seeing
an
upswing
in
crime,
and
it's
worked
out
very
well
for
us.
Y
We
weed
noir
off
more
officers,
I
mean
I.
Have
that
I
won't
stand
here
and
tell
you
that
we
don't
because
we
do
we
interview
every
officer
that
leaves
that
department
and
we
document
the
information
that
we
get
from
that
officer,
and
these
are
individuals
that
talk
about
things
like
salary
benefits.
The
fact
that
they're
on
the
morning
watch
and
don't
want
to
have
to
rotate
the
fact
that
they
don't
like
their
supervisor
or
the
fact
that
some
of
them
just
basically
don't
want
to
work.
Y
Y
We
and
I
will
have
a
council
presentation
for
the
budget
here
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks
and
I
attend
to
dress
some
of
those
issues,
as
well
as
as
salaries
as
well
as
some
of
the
benefits
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
to
reduce
the
cost
of
to
these
officers,
especially
these
young
officers.
When
you've
got
a
$40,000
officer
and
by
the
time
he
pays
the
insurance
and
by
the
time
he
pays
the
cost
of
retirement
by
the
time
he
pays
all
of
his
taxes.
Y
That
$40,000
officer
could
be
as
low
as
24
to
26
thousand
a
year,
and
if
you
take
that
24
to
26
thousand
dollars
a
year-
and
you
have
an
officer
or
a
young
man
coming
in
probably
his
first
job
or
or
maybe
second
job
wanting
to
be
a
public
safety
official
in
Columbus
and
he's
married
or
maybe
even
has
a
child
he
can't
afford.
He
cannot
afford
to
just
work
that
one
job.
So
therefore,
you
see
him
out
here
in
uniform.
Y
You
see
him
out
here,
working
part-time
jobs
at
night
to
make
ends
meet
and
then
at
some
point
in
time.
The
officer
is
just
too
tired
to
perform
the
way
he
should
perform
when
he's
working
for
us.
Therefore,
we
then
either
have
to
corral
his
part-time
employment,
which
we
do
or
he's
going
to
be
looking
for
employment
somewhere,
where
somebody's
going
to
pay
that
insurance
for
him
or
not
require
him
to
pay
8%
for
retirement
when
it
comes
up
or
whatever.
Y
These
are
the
things
that
we
have
to
do
to
progressively
keep
our
officers
and
keep
them
on
the
streets
in
Columbus
and
make
Columbus
the
example.
Not
you
know
we
need
to
do
something
today,
let's
run
up
see
what
Lagrange
does
or
let's
see
what
Atlanta
does.
Let's
see
what
Savannah
does
know,
let
them
come
and
see
what
Columbus
does
you
know
we
need
to
be
the
individual
making
that
statement.
We
need
to
be
the
individual
that
when
an
officer
comes
here,
he
wants
to
retire
here
and
I.
Y
Think
the
city
manager
said
it
before
when
we're
talking
Millennials.
This
is
a
good
bunch
of
kids,
but
they're
different.
You
know
I
can't
say
it
any
other
way:
they're
different
they're,
looking
for
different
things,
then,
when
I
came
along
and
I've
had
two
jobs,
my
entire
life,
we
don't
find
those
people
anymore.
So
therefore,
we
constantly
have
to
be
a
step
ahead
and
how
we
deal
with
these
young
officers.
Y
It's
it's
an
eye-opener.
You
know
when
you've
got
488
people
that
work
for
you
and
another
hundred
and
five
civilians
and
another
75
people
in
the
9-1-1
center
and
then
supervised
a
hundred
school
crossing
guards.
That's
a
bunch
of
people
anyway,
you
look
for
it.
That's
a
bunch
of
people
and
there's
constantly
things
that
have
to
be
addressed
in
the
workplace
and
I
hope
that,
during
my
presentation
for
the
next
budget,
that
some
of
these
things
and
the
figures
associated
with
some
of
these
things
will
make
sense.
Y
I
can't
keep
doing
without
and
doing
without
and
doing,
without
and
and
keep
up
with
these
officers.
I
have
got
to
have
some
help
and
I
think
that
y'all
see
that
y'all
have
always
always
helped
me
always
and
we're
getting
in
that
situation
again
when
we
in
2008,
when
that
penny
was
passed,
70
and
thirty,
seventy
percent
public
safety-
and
there
was
a
three
thousand
dollar
across-the-board
raise
that
was
given
to
ever
sworn
officer
and
a
hundred
positions
to
be
hired.
We
hired
99
of
those
positions
in
a
few
months,
not
a
few
months.
Y
It's
probably
12
months.
We
hired
99
people,
but
you
have
to
maintain
it
and
at
the
end
of
that
year
and
a
half
when
there
was
no
maintenance
done
on
these
on
these
salaries,
it
started
easing
down
on
the
other
side.
I
think
I
lost
seven
in
one
week
shortly
after
that,
but
we
have
to
maintain
these
officers.
Y
We
have
to
maintain
our
equipment,
two
officers
left
within
the
past
couple
of
weeks
and
their
excuse
was,
you
know,
I'm
going
to
this
County
because
they
have
better
equivalent
didn't
we
do
I
can't
believe
that
I
can't
believe
it.
We
strive
in
Columbus
to
keep
the
best
equipment
we
have
on
the
street
and
that
comes
from
cars
that
comes
from
computers
that
comes
with
the
utilities
that
are
officer
has
to
have
to
do
his
job.
We
have
to
strive
for
that.
Y
We
have
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
do
for
our
citizens
and
there's
no
doubt
in
my
mind.
Y'all
are
gonna.
Do
that
and
I'm
gonna
ask
for
some
of
those
in
this
in
this
next
budget
cycle,
but
most
Hickey
I
appreciate
you
I
appreciate
you
coming
up
appreciate,
y'all's
your
advisory
group
I
appreciate
it
because
we
listened
to
those
groups.
We
go
out
here
to
the
neighborhood
watch.
We
listen
to
our
citizens.
Y
We
attempt
to
assist
I,
listen
to
y'all,
you
know,
I,
get
information
from
y'all
call
when
something's
going
on
in
the
neighborhood
that
we
need
to
know
about
and
I
appreciate
it,
because
chances
are
I,
wouldn't
know
about
it.
Unless
you
called
me
and
told
me
and
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
correct
whatever
that
problem
might
be,
and
they
are
appreciative.
B
Ya
know
Thank
You
chief
and
thank
you
for
all
you
do.
You
know
one
interesting
conversation.
I
went
to
a
mayor's
conference,
I
guess
it
was
last
week
and
mayor's
from
the
major
cities
throughout
our
sister
cities.
Were
there
and
I
won't
call
the
particular
name,
but
there
was
one
city:
that's
recently
filled
all
of
their
vacancies
and
I
said
well.
Hot
dog
had
to
do
that
and
they
said
well,
we
raised
the
pace
of
what
you
pay.
It's
about
two
thousand
dollars
less
than
we
pay
and
I
said
when
it
has
that
work.
B
Exactly
and
I
asked
him
some
more
questions,
and
he
wasn't
quite
as
forthcoming
with
with
any
further
details,
but
had
the
opportunity
to
come
back
and
see
you
and
say
what
are
they
doing
over
there?
Of
course
you
knew
what
they
were
doing.
They
lowered
their
standards
dramatically.
They
started
letting
people
in
with
prior
drug
convictions
and
things.
B
Y
Those
80
people,
some
of
those
people
and
you
don't
either
I-
have
to
be
sure
that
when
I
put
a
badge
and
a
gun
on
somebody
that
I
can
go
home
at
night
and
sleep
and
I
can't
just
put
a
badge
and
a
gun
on
anyone.
It's
a
lot
of
people
want
to
be
police
officers,
but
it's
not
the
people
that
we
us
wants
to
see
out.
Y
There
I
promise
you
and
that's
what
was
happening
in
that
city
and
I
had
already
heard
that
before
the
mayor
had
called
and
I'd
already
checked
several
weeks
before
as
to
how
they
were
fill
in
those
hundred
positions
and
I
was
never
told
a
straight
answer.
I
was
always
kind
of
you
know.
We
sell
this
and
we
sell
that
until
I
was
at
a
conference
and-
and
one
of
the
guys
agreed
to
share
with
me
the
fact
that
they
were
just
kind
of
if
you
applied
you
went,
you
came
on,
you
got
the
job.
B
Do
it
well
I
just
want
to
make
that
point.
It's
sometimes
a
little
bit
more,
you
know
complex
and
then
people
think
and
I
know.
You
said
something
about
$24,000
and
and
you've
had
some
math
in
there
and
so
the
citizens,
and
maybe
the
medieval
glom
on
to
that,
and
that
would
be
obviously
incorrect
if
they
just
reported
it
flat
out
like
that.
B
We
pay,
particularly
if
this
budget
is
approved
a
little
over
$40,000
for
a
high
school
diploma
for
a
starting
officer
and
then,
of
course,
there's
signing
bonuses
and
they
get
additions
if
their
post
certified.
If
they
have
military
experience
and
then
certainly
if
they
get
their
associates,
degree
it'll
be
more
like
42
and
if
they
get
their
bachelor's
degree,
it's
more
like
44
and
you
know,
goes
up
so
we're.
We
do
pretty
good,
comparatively
and
you're
right.
It's
about
the
maintenance
I
mean
in
these
last
few
years.
B
We've
increased
police
pay,
in
particular
between
15
and
20
21
percent,
but-
and
we
have
addressed
mr.
Hickey
and
retha-
can
show
you
this,
particularly
in
the
last
I
guess,
three
years
or
four
years
since
the
pay
reform
compression
with
the
steps
that
we
have
and
that's
just
going
to
take
time,
20
years
of
compressions
long
tangled
ball
of
yarn
to
unwind.
B
B
But
Public
Safety
is
the
most
costly
plan
we
have
by
far
for
pension
so
as
want
folks
to
know
that,
in
order
to
provide
that
sixty
percent
of
salary
I
have
reached
over
year
last
five
years
of
pay
for
the
rest
of
somebody's
life
from
55
on
it
cost
a
boatload
of
money.
So
we've
you
know,
one
of
the
things
we
decided
not
to
do
was
change
our
pension
plan
from
defined
benefit
to
one
of
these
cafeteria
plans.
We
talked
about
it
that
would
save
the
cost
and
certainly
cost
the
employees
a
lot
less.
B
The
benefit
would
not
be
as
rich
as
solid
as
deep,
and
so
that's
just
that's
a
policy
decision
for
Council.
We
can
certainly
change
our
pension
plan.
We've
looked
at
changing
our
pension
plan,
both
the
parameters,
the
starting
age
of
retirement.
If
we
moved
it
to
5758,
that
would
cost
less.
If
we,
you
know,
took
it
to
50
percent
of
pay
instead
of
60
percent
of
pay,
that
would
cost
less
if
we
didn't
pay
for
the
rest
of
their
lives,
but
only
you
know
maximum
25
years
30
years
or
something
that
would
cost
less.
B
All
of
those
obviously
have
pretty
serious
ramifications
to
our
hard-working
public
safety
officials,
and
so
we
just
need
to
get
those
numbers
back
and
figure
which
one
of
those
levers
we
can
pull
and
push
to
get
a
balance.
That's
acceptable
for
the
value
of
the
benefit.
So,
but
we
hear
you
and
one
thing
we're
trying
to
do.
Obviously,
is
we
offset
four
percent
of
that
with
a
pay
raise,
but
when
we
first
implemented
it,
but
that
other
four
percent
is
there?
B
The
employee
new
employees
are
absorbing
that,
so
we
try
to
offset
it
with
these
pay
raises,
but
you're
right,
the
pay
raises,
will
have
to
be
more
and
more
generous
to
keep
up
with
both
and
the
cost
of
living.
So
that's
something
for
for
council
to
take
into
consideration.
I
know
we
got
a
lot
of
folks
up,
but
I
Reetha
did
you
want
to
add
anything
and
then
maybe
I
left
out
just
so
everybody
has
information
for
all
the
questions
we
got
coming
just
about
I,
guess,
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
the
questions
asked
and.
Z
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
the
salary
survey
force
Police
Department
we
conducted
is
on
the
city's
website
for
anybody
that
wants
to
look
at
the
salary
survey,
how
we
compare
the
City
of
Columbus
compared
to
15
or
so
cities,
comparable
cities
outside
our
size
and
Columbus
does
lead.
There's
when,
when
you
look
at
the
city
of
caught,
for
example,
we
will
not
lead
with
cop,
but
by
and
large
we
are
leading
in
pay
and
benefits
with
similar
cities
our
size
and
again
that
information
is
located
on
the
website
and
I.
Z
Have
it
here
that
we
can
post
for
you
also
there's
a
nother
posting.
That's
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget
that
shows
the
paid
increases
for
Public
Safety
in
general,
since
2012,
that
is,
the
pay
has
increased
for
Public
Safety
from
15
upwards
to
25
percent
for
Public
Safety.
That's
not
to
say
that
we
could
not
continue
to
do
better,
but
that
I
think
it's
significant,
particularly
compared
to
general
government.
Whether
pay
has
not
increased
as
well.
Okay,.
B
Thank
You
Reetha
and
that
that
serve
had
forgotten
but
you're
right.
It
shows
the
comparable
benefits
too
for
each
of
those
cities
and
those
are
cities,
like
you
know,
the
Atlanta
metro
cities,
obviously,
which
are
different
than
us
and
have
a
standard
of
living.
A
different
standard,
Olivia
I
think
we
have
obviously
Augusta
Savannah
Macon
Athens,
all
of
those
are
in
there.
So
it's
a
good
survey
just
to
look
and
see
and
it
does
compare
how
much
they
pay
in
in
pension
cost
and
and
healthcare
costs,
and
that
kind
of
thing
signing
bonuses.
B
And
then,
let's
address
this
17
million
I,
don't
know
if
maybe
Pam
can
come
forward
real,
quick
before
we
get
into
the
questions.
I
know
mr.
Hickey.
That
is
obviously
an
issue
that
we
grapple
with
every
budget.
I
would
say
that
we
have
to
keep
our
you
know
all
of
the
lhasa
funds,
our
general
funds,
even
though
we
keep
them
separate
for
transparency
purposes
due
to
the
vote.
B
Just
so,
we
can
make
payroll
for
the
ones
remaining,
it's
a
lot
of
families
and
it
probably
would
be
disproportionately
levied
upon
general
government
employees
and
and
that's
that's,
a
whole
lot
of
city
services
not
being
provided.
So
it's
a
balance,
hard
choices,
but
that's
I'll
dress
the
the
political
policy
decision
aspect.
But
of
course,
council
was
six
votes,
as
you've
heard
can
do
anything
they
like,
we
probably
lose
our
bond
rating,
but
they
can.
They
can
do
whatever
whatever
they
like.
Yes,
Angelica.
No.
AA
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
you
say
at
madam
mayor,
which
is
that
the
general
fund
from
a
financial
perspective
there
is
a
Olaf
on
I'm.
Sorry
from
a
financial
perspective,
is
a
sub
fine,
either
as
it
may
of
the
general
fund
and
so
from
a
reserve
standpoint.
All
the
reserves
count
towards
general
fund
reserve
because,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
we
do
separate
Olas
fund
dollars
from
a
transparency
standpoint,
but
from
a
financial
standpoint.
It
is
a
part
of
the
general
fund.
AA
As
far
as
the
reserve
days,
we
are
estimating
about
40
1.98
old
loss
reserve
days
for
FY
19,
and
it's
just
over
22
days
that
were
estimating
for
the
general
fund.
We
have
made
some
progress
in
restoring
our
general
fund
reserves.
As
of
FY
16.
Our
general
fund
reserves
got
down
as
low
as
14
days
and
now
we're
at
the
point.
AA
You
know
for
FY
19,
where
we
brought
that
back
up
we're
estimating
that
to
be
about
22
days,
also
in
that
same
time
period
for
the
old
last
time
we
were
just
above
40
days
and
again
for
FY
19.
We
are
estimating
about
41
days.
So
not
much
movement
in
the
reserves
for
the
O
loss
fund
we,
but
we
are
I,
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
are
restoring
I
should
say
our
general
fund
balance
reserves,
so
great
Thank.
B
W
Morning,
chief
born
mr.
Hickey
I
appreciated
a
great
presentation
by
both
of
you.
I
am
looking
forward
to
open
discussions.
I've
received
several
calls
from
a
lot
of
the
officers
that
are
at
sergeant,
ranking
above
complaining
about
the
fact
that
the
new
officers
are
coming
in
and
in
a
period
of
years,
they'll
be
making
almost
the
same
amount
of
money.
We
had
one
forum
with
another
Public
Safety
Agency,
where
one
of
the
employees
had
been
with
us
for
about
20
to
23.
Z
W
With
an
employee
that
had
been
there
about
eight
years
and
the
difference
in
their
paychecks
was
about
800,
so
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
on
the
compression
issue.
Even
more
I
know,
we've
done
a
lot
too
on
the
front
end
and
trying
to
do
some
things
along
the
way,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
that
discussion
and
also
into
the
the
crime
piece
you
know
whatever
you
know.
W
I've
always
talked
about
community
policing,
but,
as
you
stated,
you
don't
have
enough
officers
to
put
anybody
anywhere
long
enough
to
get
to
know
people
because
everybody's
floating
around
trying
to
take
care
of
the
whole
city,
so
I
just
I
just
I.
Just
thank
you
both
for
bringing
it
up
this
morning
and
hopefully
we'll
have
an
open
discussion
here
and
see.
If
what
we,
what
results
we
can
get,
because
it's
really
a
problem
and
like
I,
said
the
the
officers
complain
I'm
sure
to
all
of
us
over
time
over.
W
Y
Then
I
appreciate
that
and
don't
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
we
were
in
all
of
the
schools
we're
also
in
our
community
and
neighborhood
watch
programs.
We
made
all
of
the
community
meetings
with
the
officers
most
of
the
time
that
are
on
the
beat,
if
they're
available
to
during
the
thing,
so
we're
not
out
of
the
community
at
all
we're
still
there
and
we're
still
attending
and
we're
still
assisting
and
sure
we're
short,
but
we're
going
to
take
care
of
our
citizens.
Yeah.
W
M
M
Hicks
I'll
call
you
later
I
like
to
see
where
the
Advisory
Board
included
with
the
community
included
with
our
staff,
put
a
group
together
to
study
all
the
issues
that
are
facing
us
and
comparing
them,
because
I
can
also
give
you
a
list
and
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
here
of
things.
I
have
heard
from
the
police
officers
when
it
has
to
deal
with
policies
that
we
have
in
place.
M
We
restrict
them
from
certain
other
entities
of
things
that
can
occur
and
I
don't
want
to
go
very
in
detail,
because
we
could
be
here
all
day
long
but
I
like
to
be
a
part
of
it.
Also.
Another
thing
that
we
need
to
look
at
when
we're
talking
about
the
benefits
and
the
pay
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
everything,
because
my
understanding
there
are
some
things
that
we
do,
that
other
communities
don't
do
either.
We
need
to
have
the
whole
picture,
not
just
bits
and
pieces.
M
I
was
you
know,
we're
getting
to
get
a
better
understanding.
I
tend
to
agree
that
there's
innovative
ways
that
we
can
do
to
support
not
only
the
police
department
but
all
of
Public
Safety
I.
Remember
not
a
couple
years
ago,
when
I
said
couldn't
we
put
like
on
a
percentage
of
the
tickets,
we
right
into
a
I'll
I'm
item
to
use
that
for
capital
improvement,
I
mean
there's
so
many
ideas,
but
I've
seen
where
some
ideas
have
come
and
immediately.
M
You
know
someone
says
well
that
doesn't
work
well,
I
believe
that
something
mommy
didn't
didn't
work
back
then,
because
I
wasn't
the
timing
for
it.
What's
the
timing
for
today
could
be
different,
so
I
want
to
look
at
it
and
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
it,
but
I
want
us
all
to
be
with
an
open
mind,
not
not
immediately
to
say
that's
not
going
to
work
without
trying
it,
because
it's
all
about
timing
and
it's
about
the
interest
of
the
public
and
if
right
now,
crime
is
the
interest
of
the
public.
M
M
That
I
think
we
need
to
bring
a
little
bit
more
marketing,
more
awareness
of
the
relationship
between
the
community
and
public
safety.
I
think
that's
a
big
Avenue
I've
mentioned
to
a
couple
people.
Would
you
adopt
a
police
officer,
meaning
build
a
relationship
with
that
officer
in
your
community
and
with
the
church
in
your
community?
We
have
lots
of
churches
that
are
in
the
community,
but
they
don't
live
in
the
community
and
their
program
service,
their
churches.
We
need
to
look
at
it
in
a
in
a
different
way.
M
There
are
some
really
really
good
ideas
out
there
that
we
need
to
look
at
I'll.
Give
you
an
example
too
and
I'm
just
holding
it
all
inside
to
the
appropriate
time.
Even
with
our
schools.
I
met
a
little
boy
who
was
sitting
sitting
with
a
skateboard
in
the
middle
of
the
road
in
the
middle
of
the
road
and
I
drove
by
him
and
I
parked
and
I
said.
Are
you
ok
did
you
fall?
What
happened
to
you
and
he
said
he
was
tired,
so
he
laid
on
the
middle
of
the
road.
M
I
said
to
him:
why
don't
you
just
move
to
the
sidewalk
and
let's
talk
when
I
went
and
talked
to
him.
The
young
man
said
I
said
to
him
wait
a
minute.
Why
aren't
you
in
school-
and
he
said
to
me
because
he
got
suspended
because
he
went
to
Walmart
I,
have
a
problem
like
that
when
were
suspending
children
and
letting
them
out
to
do
nothing.
M
I
have
a
problem
that
if
somebody
in
the
community
sees
the
child,
don't
stop
and
ask
the
child
I
have
a
problem.
When
people
don't
get
more
involved,
we
lost
that
sense
of
respect
and
value
of
life
and
I
think
that's
all
part
of
it.
That
needs
to
be
come
together
and
I
think
this
is
the
time
in
the
momenta
where
communities
are
tired
of
the
crime,
and
what's
going
on
that,
we
could
change
some
of
these
things
and
give
you
the
resource
with
people
helping
I
mean
just
something
to
think
about
chief.
M
M
Car
look
like
it
was
back
in
this
60s
and
the
70s
I
was
even
embarrassed
for
the
police
officer
in
the
type
of
vehicle
that
he
was
driving
and
he
was
doing
and
I
told
him.
I
say
you
tell
Chee
and
he
looked
at
me
kind
of
crazy
cuz,
I
rolled
my
window
and
talked
to
him
and
say
you
tell
chief,
you
need
a
new
car,
you
know
and
I
know
he
never
told
chief
because
I
followed
up
behind.
He.
M
There
you
go
I,
could
it
can't
come
out
alone?
That's
what
I
was
thinking,
and
this
is
my
reason
why
I'm
saying
we
need
to
to
put
something,
not
people
arguing
and
complaining
about
what
we
don't
have
it's
about
people
that
want
to
see
a
difference.
Let's
move
on,
we
know
what
the
issues
are.
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
resolve
it
and
I?
Don't
know
all
of
it,
but
mr.
hits
I'm
gonna
call
you
and
chief,
you
know
we
have
a
great
relationship.
M
M
Just
gonna
leave
it
there,
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
it,
because
I
have
some
ideas
and
I
think
that
if
we
don't
say
no
and
we
try
it,
it
might
work
and
if
it
don't
work,
what
harm
did
it
do
nothing
so
I'm
gonna
leave
it
at
that.
Mary
also
want
to
ask.
Well.
This
is
a
perfect
time
to
do
it.
M
Our
finance
director,
to
look
in
the
not
now
because
we're
in
budget
session
and
there's
so
much
going
on,
but
right
after
budget
session
I
want
to
see.
We
can
look
at
a
Mario
just
try
something
out
what
would
happen
if
we
do
the
pay
structure
first
and
then
everything
else
that
we
need
in
the
budget.
How
would
that
work?
M
I
just
want
to
see
I'm,
not
saying
that's
where
we're
going
to,
but
I
want
to
see
what
the
difference
will
be,
and
not
only
just
for
public
safety,
but
also
for
general,
employee
and
I.
Don't
know
because
I
don't
know
all
that
part
of
Finance,
but
it's
just
an
idea
and
if
we
can
look
and
see
if
my
work
and
it
might
not
work,
but
we
can
get
an
idea,
we
see
the
military
does
it.
So
why
can't
we
follow?
M
Probably
in
that,
in
that
sense
my
cost
more
money
might
be
less
money,
I,
don't
know,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
say,
listen,
look
at
it.
Let's
just
see
what
would
happen
then
bring
it
back
and
let's
discuss
them
to
see.
I
was
gonna,
wait
till
budget,
but
it's
a
perfect
opportunity
to
ask
for
it.
Thank
you
very
much
to
everyone,
and
we
hear
you.
M
We
hear
you
loud
and
clear,
and
there
are
areas
that
we
can
change
if
we
just
all
can
come
together
and
see
the
big
benefit
in
the
big
picture
of
it.
Right
and
I
tend
to
agree
one
more
thing:
Mary
chief
I
think
you
need
to
say
that
more
and
I
think
people
need
to
hear
it
more,
that
we
do
have
lots
of
applications,
but
we're
trying
to
be
careful
with
who
we
put
on
the
street,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
more
bad
apples
than
we
have
good
apples.
M
N
Let
me
tell
you
what
I
gleaned
out
of
it
out
of
that
meeting.
I
I'm
really
happy
that
the
citizens,
but
we
are
transparent
here
in
this
government,
because
the
citizens
go
on
the
city
website.
All
the
information
dealing
with
the
budget
and
everything's
there.
That
is
a
huge
and
I,
will
tell
you
something
is
surprising
how
much
the
citizens
know
how
much
they
glean
from
that
now
from
five
to
eight,
sixty
percent
of
the
conversation
was
about
the
police
department.
J
N
They
are
the
the
communities
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
crimes
now
chief,
they
glean
the
stats
that
you
put
out
and
they
know
that
they
do
realize
that
the
the
murder
rates
up
and
I
did.
Let
them
know
what
you
and
I
spoke
about
that
dumb.
The
six
of
them
were
our
domestic
violence,
three,
maybe
drone
patrol
or
gang
related
and
other
three
questionable,
but
the
citizens
are
the
citizens
are
concerned.
One
of
the
things
that
skip
did
a
really
good
job
of
laying
out
the
budget
and
being
a
former
budget
chair.
N
But
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
was
the
fact
that
we
they
feel
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
try
office
need
to
get
our
priorities
regulated
and
they
realized
that
you
can
have
all
this
good
stuff
that's
happening
in
Uptown
Columbus.
We
can
have
the
Riverwalk,
we
can
have
everything,
but
if
the
people
don't
feel
safe,
they're
not
going
to
attend,
they
do
realize
now
that
crime
is
down
and
they
do
but
they're
concerned
about
the
future.
N
What
grieves
them
is
the
fact
that
they
see
a
lot
of
the
police
officers
happen
to
work
two
and
sometimes
three
jobs
just
to
make
a
living.
A
lot
of
the
questions
came
about
the
about
compression
and
about
the
need
for
us
to
do
something
to
keep
the
officers
that
we
have
they're
concerned,
that
Columbus
is
just
a
training
ground
and
that
you
have
arduous
task
trying
to
keep
officers,
because
once
they
become
trained
they're
leaving,
but
we
need
to
really
do
something
on
the
front
end
to
stop
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
about
the
vehicles.
J
N
It's
that's
huge
and
the
mayor
is
not
here,
but
it
came
up
when
the
mayor
does
the
call
the
talk
there
needs
to
be
one
specifically
that
you
can
have
the
citizens
come
where
the
cheap
can
be
there
to
talk
about
public
safety
and
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
citizens
have
they're
concerned
about
the
salaries
compression
and
all
of
this
here,
and
we
need
to
really
do
a
serious
talk
and
they
are
going
to
really
be
looking
at
chief
when
you
come
here
before
they
say
now.
60%
from
5:00
p.m.
to
8:00
p.m.
N
That's
huge
something
like
that
and
I'm
glad
skip
was
there
because
he
had
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
about
the
budget
and
whatever
but
I'm
gonna
be
honest
with
you.
You
know,
we've
got,
we
need
to
come
up
and
we
need
to
start
prioritizing
things
that
the
citizens
are
telling
us
and
at
the
top
of
the
list,
is
Public
Safety
top
of
the
list,
the
police
officers.
Now
we
were
asked
questions
about
Tasers.
We
were
asked
questions
about
vests.
We
were
asked
questions
about.
N
Obviously
the
vehicles
sure
you
know
and
and
I
know
you
have
a
very
typical
child
in
child
chief
I
know
you
do,
and
and
also
about
your
outreach
into
the
community,
are
aware
of
the
DARE
program,
so
are
aware
an
officer
Spencer,
Joe,
who's,
who's,
I'm
gonna,
tell
you
something
officer,
Spencer,
it's
like
a
goodwill
ambassador,
but
he
goes
into
the
schools
and
took
PGA's
and
whatever.
So.
N
The
community
is
completely
aware
of
this
situation
and
by
when
you
brought
up
a
good
point
in
Mindy,
you
know
also
they
they
wanted
to
know
how
much
every
citizen
input
it's
just
some
of
the
decisions,
whether
the
council's
here
and
more
from
some
I'm
gonna
line.
If
we
can
get
the
one
the
mayor
will
do
one
call
to
talk
specifically
not
about
specialist
but
anything
else.
Let
that
be
specifically
about
unclear
the
mayor's
coming.
One
of
the
things.
L
K
N
If
there
could
be
a
call
to
talk,
this
is
my
suggestion.
No,
they
were
saying
they
feel
frustrated
because
they're
there,
the
things
that
they
want
to
talk
about
and
really
chew
and
really
have
a
a
productive
discussion
and
I
suggested.
Maybe
a
call
to
talk
that
you
have
and
you
do
a
lot
of
them
just
specifically
on
CPD,
because
just
this
is
huge
and
there
was
a
gentleman.
I
won't
mention
his
name,
but
this
just
this
gentleman
here
was
so
versed
on
he's
a
retired
attorney
mm-hm.
N
N
B
Let's
do
that,
and
we
also
can
do
it.
We
can
have
staff,
do
it
for
budget
purposes,
because
you
all
would
want
to
know
that
information
before
you
make
any
budget
decisions.
Obviously,
so
we
can
have
a
report
on
vehicles
how
many
are
out
of
date.
You
know
with
with
where
we
like
to
turn
them
over
about
the
packages
and
so
forth.
So
and.
N
Councillor
Garrett,
your
name
came
out
last
night
at
this
meeting
because
reference
this
special
enforcement
I
told
him
what
you
said,
what
we
did
and
got
together
in
the
meetings
and
I
didn't
wanna
let
the
cat
out
the
bag,
but
I
did
tell
them
about
some
of
the
things
that
backyards
and
the
side
dogs
out
there.
They
were.
They
were
happy
about
that.
So
one
of
the
past,
I,
don't
want
to
you.
G
AA
G
That's
been
approved,
but
they
haven't
filled
it
because,
along
with
salary,
personal
benefits
of
benefits,
uniforms
and
all
that
stuff,
because
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
lot
of
money
sitting
in
reserves,
but
that
money
is
sitting
reserves
for
those
hot
those
positions
that
we
have
optimized.
The
chief
appeal.
G
AA
As
the
amount
of
reserves,
but
now
that
has
returned
to
reserves
from
unspent
personnel
cost,
but
one
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
all
the
reserves
that
we
show
in
the
charts
that
we
provide
as
part
of
the
budget
is
not
all
public
safety
I'm.
Some
of
that
reserve
money
that
mr.
Hickey
mention
is
for
infrastructure,
so
I
can
break
that
out
for
you
as
well,
but
because
I
want
to
point
out
all
the
17
million
that
was
mentioned
is
not
all
for
public
safety.
Okay,
yeah.
B
B
V
B
B
And
we
did
do
that
with
16
positions.
We
had
a
very
long
conversation
as
you
all
remember
many
many
hearings
about.
We
liquidated
16
positions
from
the
100
in
order
to
fund
the
compression
pay,
longevity
solution
that
we
came
up
with
over
a
period
of
time
and
I
forgot
what
else
we
did
with
it.
I
can't
remember
now,
but
maybe
we
could
mention
that
we
did
several
things
to
make
some
adjustments
to
raise
pay
for
the
police
officers
and
upon.
B
It
was
also
with
a
commitment
that,
when
he
gets
up
to
when
he
hires
whatever
the
the
difference
is
84
officers,
then
we'll
start
finding
money
to
replenish
those
those
16.
So
we
could
do
that
I
mean
you
could
take
50
and
liquidate
50
positions
and
and
do
a
lot
of
good
with
addressing
the
pay.
Of
course,
then
you're
not
going
to
have
your
hundred
police
officers.
So
it's
something
that
council
could
absolutely
consider.
We've
just
been
holding
those
waiting
for
our
pay
to
get
high
enough
to
start
attracting
these
great
candidates,
and
hopefully.
Y
15
to
17
million
to
address
it
the
way
it
should
be
addressed
and
that's
to
separate
the
ranks
and
put
a
percentage
of
money
in
between
the
promoted
ranks
the
folks
with
the
degrees
and
then
the
ones
that
don't
have
the
degrees.
Well,
you
know
that's
up
to
them
if
they
want
to
get
the
extra
money.
They'd
have
to
get
the
degree
now
like
other
people
before
them
had,
but
it
was
it's
not
cheap.
It's
not
cheap.
Okay,.
B
AB
Young
briefed
I
was
going
to
take
a
quick
shot
at
the
sales
tax
question
chiefing,
but
I
think
for
the
most
part,
if
you
looked
at
weapons
vehicles,
record
management,
computer
systems,
communications,
we've
come
a
long
way
and
we
continue
to
strive
very
much.
So
it's
been
a
lot
of
money
on
that
and
the
other
goes
to
mr.
hickeys
question.
Thanks
for
your
service,
mr.
AB
It's
the
first
penny
that
runs
a
city
always
has
prior
to
1
109.
That
was
the
only
penny.
One
109
no
laws
to
us
for
officers
hired
after
that
point,
the
public's
and
the
city
in
the
public
safety
departments,
but
pretty
much
built
out
at
a
collection
rate
of
36
million
dollars
a
year.
The
department
you
served
in
that's
what
the
first
penny
brought
in
that
sort
of
was
the
benchmark
was
a
standard.
AB
But
then
the
recession
hit
and
hit
us
hard
are
getting
around
2010,
I,
guess:
2009!
2010!
That
penny
went
33
million
dollars
a
year,
give
or
take.
So
when
you
compound
on
that
loss
over
eight
or
nine
years
well,
then,
you've
lost
twenty
five
million
dollars
of
that
first
pin
your
revenue
most
of
that
money
goes
to
other
money,
goes
to
public
safety,
had
public
safety,
taking
a
pro-rata
hit
of
that
25
million
dollar
loss,
we've
gutted
Police
Department,
gutted,
Fire,
Department,
gutted,
Sheriff's,
Department
gutted
Marshalls
apartment.
Well,
we
didn't
do
that.
AB
We
started
pulling
all
the
pieces
of
the
puzzle
that
we
could
together.
We
pull
down
reserve
funds
to
see
that
Public
Safety
was
fully
funded
to
see
that
our
infrastructure
was
maintained
to
see
that
we
had
a
quality
of
life,
maintaining
our
parks,
so
our
city
didn't
get
run
into
the
ground.
There's
always
a
trade-off
for
that.
AB
Something
and
they're
going
to
disagree
with
disagree
on
counsel
and
people
are
going
to
disagree,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
true
down
and
reserves
to
protect
public
safety
because
the
sales
tax
revenue
would
not
was
not
coming
in.
According
to
the
you
know,
the
history
of
it,
we
used
Olaf's
reserves
to
keep
us
at
the
60-day
reserve
fund.
Some
people
don't
think
the
60-day
benchmark
is
important.
I
think
it's
critical
from
protecting
your
financial
position.
AB
But
you
got
people
in
the
department
today
if
they
were
hired
prior
to
one
109
who
have
a
job,
because
we
did
what
we
did
because
Public
Safety
has
always
been
the
priority
since
I've
been
part
of
this
council
and
I,
don't
see
that
ever
changing
people
are
going
to
disagree.
How
you
achieve
those
different
things
that
we
have
to
achieve
and
how
you
go
about
it,
but
that's
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
AB
We
had
to
manage
a
25
million
dollar
sales
tax
collection
shortfall
over
that
period
of
eight
or
nine
years,
most
of
the
money
that
suppose
that
would
have
gone
to
fund
Public
Safety.
We
had
to
pull
it
from
other
places
that
brought
our
reserves
down.
So
we
had
to
lose
some
Olaf's
funds
to
shore
up
their
reserves
keeps
at
60
days.
AB
You
know
we
can
debate
that
all
day
whether
it
was
right
or
wrong
or
indifferent,
but
that's
part
of
the
strategy
financial
strategy
we
went
through
to
do
what
we
had
to
do.
Sometimes
you
make
decisions
that
are
necessary,
nothing
everybody's,
going
to
agree
but
I.
Thank
you
for
your
question
for
your
service.
All.
L
Mr.
dookey
I
know
that
you
know
that
I
was
very
involved
in
the
development
of
the
lost
proposition
and
I.
Remember
conversation
that
Mayor
Wetherington
and
excuse
me
mayor,
Wellington
and
I
had
when
Pam
Hodges
the
finance
director
and
Mayor
Wellington
wanted
the
old
loss
money
put
in
a
separate
account
and
Miss
hard
said,
because
it
is
sales
tax,
money.
The
state
law
says
it
has
to
go
into
the
general
fund.
L
But
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
account
for
it
in
a
line
item
separately
so
that
everybody
can
see
what's
going
on
with
the
money.
How
much
is
coming
in
and
what
it's
going
out
for
and
I
think
that
over
the
10
years
that
the
olaf's
has
been
nine
years,
I
guess
that
the
old
lost
has
been
collected
here,
there's
been
nobody
that
has
been
that
has
more
jealously
guarded
that
money
to
make
sure
it's
spent
for
Public,
Safety
and
infrastructure.
L
I
will
also
tell
you,
though,
that
there
are
times
when,
as
knowledgeable
as
I
am
about
the
Oh
loss,
I
question:
what's
going
on
and
one
of
the
things
for
example,
that
I
did
question
was
the
first
time
I
saw
that
it
said
we
had
17
million
dollars
in
FY
18
in
reserve.
From
the
olaf's
I
said
we
couldn't
have
we
spent
that
whole
lost
money,
we
took
in
33
million
dollars
and
we
spent
thirty
two
point:
nine.
L
Where
did
that
seven
men
well
as
I
understand
it,
and
the
finance
director
certainly
can
correct
me
if
I'm
incorrect,
that
seventeen
million
is
a
cumulative
figure.
It's
not
money
that
just
came
out
this
year
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
people.
Ask
me
about
that.
How
can
we?
How
can
we
use
seventeen
million
of
this
year's
money?
That's
not
what
we're
doing
it's
a
cumulative
amount.
L
The
other
thing
is
that,
as
the
finance
director
said,
there
are
some
of
the
infrastructure
projects
that
we
may
have
started
in
last
year's
fiscal
year
that
we
haven't
completely
paid
for
because
the
bill
hadn't
come
in
yet
and
that
money
is
in
that
that
reserve,
but
I
am
absolutely
convinced
that
we're
doing
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
do
with
that
olaf's
money
now.
I
will
also
tell
you
the
mayor
said
something
about
the
chief
hiring.
L
Excuse
me
any
new
officers
when
the
old
loss
we
need
to
effect
before
the
olaf's
went
into
effect.
The
Columbus
Police
Department
was
authorized
at
388
sworn
officer
positions
when
the
old
laws
went
into
effect
that
moved
up
to
488
sworn
positions
of
those
488.
The
hundred
that
we
were
looking
at
for
being
paid
out
of
the
owe
loss.
The
latest
figure
I
saw
was
like
99
we're
paying
99
officers
out
of
the
old
loss
money.
L
But
the
mayor
said
something
about
the
chief
finding
and
hiring
those
80
officers,
and
we
said
as
a
council.
Even
though
we
we
took
16
positions
and
even
though
we're
look,
we
look
at
salary
savings.
It
chief,
boring,
came
to
this
council
and
said:
I
need
the
money
to
pay
these
80
people
that
I
have
found
to
go
to
work
for
the
Columbus
Police
Department
we'd
find
that
money.
L
If
we
didn't
have
it
we'll
find
it
somewhere,
because
it's
that
important
I
think
to
all
of
the
councillors
that
we
have
a
full
complement
of
police
officers
in
the
CPD.
One
of
the
things
I
would
ask
the
finance
director
if
she
can
help
me
with
when
we
first
started
the
Olaf's
accounting.
We
did
not
account
in
the
fund
balance
that
we
didn't
account
the
Olas
money
separately.
L
L
J
S
Was
this
big
deal
for
those
watching?
My
television,
of
course,
we've
got
what
you
asked
for
in
a
recent
PowerPoint
presentation:
she's
just
gonna
pull
up
that
one
slide
and
she
can
put
it
on
the
screen
for
the
benefit
of
those
watching
from
the
audience
and
television,
and
so
it
will
be
just
one
just
a
couple
of
seconds
more
before.
F
AA
You
are
correct:
counselor
Thomas,
it
wasn't
until
FY
11
that
we
started
counting
the
Olas
reserves
as
part
of
the
reserves
prior
to
that
it
was
all
general
fund
reserves
that
was
being
counted
as
far
as
the
reserves
were
concerned.
So
our
goal-
our
goal
is,
of
course
the
90
days
and
we
have
a
60
day
minimum
and,
as
I
mentioned
before
and
FY
14
is
when
that
was
our
lowest
point.
We
were
actually
at
54
point
54
days
at
that
point.
14
of
those
days
was
general
fund
reserves.
AA
Since
then,
though,
we've
made
some
progress.
The
general
fund
reserves
other
reserve,
the
lines
that
are
in
blue
and
we
have
made
some
progress
in
I'm.
Sorry,
the
yes
general
fund
is
in
blue.
We've
made
some
progress
in
I'm,
sorry,
FY
16
was
the
lowest
point,
not
FY
14
FY
16
was
the
lowest
point.
That
was
the
14
days,
and
we've
made
some
progress
in
16
with
restore
restoring
our
general
fund
reserves.
But
to
answer
your
question,
it
was
FY
11
that
we
started
using
the
old
loss
reserves
to
count
as
reserves.
We.
J
L
And
so,
once
again,
mr.
Hickey
I
would
say
to
you
that
this
council
and
I
think
the
the
finance
department
and
all
of
us
are
very
aware
of
the
restrictions
that
we
told
the
citizens
we
were
going
to
put
on
this
penny
and
that
we
jealously
guard
that
and
to
my
satisfaction,
we
have
lived
up
to
what
we
told
the
citizens.
We
were
going
to
do
when
we
passed
that
that
referendum.
J
O
You
mayor
I,
wanted
to
thank
the
one
I
know:
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
going
on
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
make
it
real
brief
and
condensed,
hopefully
condense
what
I'm
about
to
say,
but
you
got
to
keep
in
mind
when
we
originally,
when
the
citizens
voted
on
the
Oh
Oh
lost
with
a
purpose.
It
wasn't
just
the
hundred
police
officers.
There
were.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
involved
on
the
public
safety
side,
there's
a
lot
of
branches
of
this
government
and
public
safety.
O
That's
that's
being
served
out
of
that
that
penny
that
we
call
the
old
lost
one
of
the
things
we
did
at
that
time
too
was
you
know
it
was
the
the
the
word
parody?
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
say
it.
You
can
look
at
it
as
a
blessing.
You
can
look
at
it
as
a
curse,
but
what
happened
then
was
that
money
was
spread
out
across
the
board
to
all
these
different
departments
that
utilized
a
lot
of
those
funds
right
there.
O
A
lot
of
those
funds
and
what's
happened
over
the
years-
is
that
we
took
that
old
loss.
The
city
agreed
to
take
that
old
loss.
You've
got
almost
70%
of
that
70%,
that's
being
used
on
salaries
and
every
year
you
look
at
it
every
year.
Those
salaries
don't
go
down,
they
don't
stay
neutral.
They
go
up.
O
Health
benefits,
retirement
promotions,
things
like
that
that
just
keeps
going
up
and
any
time
we
add
to
that
it
keeps
going
up
on
an
upward
trend,
you're
spending
more
of
that
oh
lost
money
every
year
on
salary
needs
and
purposes.
So
what
happens?
Is
you
got
less
to
deal
with
capital
replacement?
You
have
less
to
deal
with
equipment
across
the
board
and
that's
what
everybody
wants.
O
So
you
know
now
we're
at
a
place
where
we're
finding
out
that
you
only
have
X
to
work
with
X
amount
of
revenue
to
work
with
in
this
lost,
and
if
you
continue
to
spread
it
out,
that's
what
we've
done
over
the
year
really
I
mean
everybody
knows
this.
For
a
long
time
now
we
just
spread
out
the
revenue
that
the
extra
revenue
and
just
spread
it
out
the
board.
That's
some!
O
What
some
people
will
call
that
the
definition
of
parody
spreading
across
the
board
and
you
just
kind
of
put
a
bandaid
on
the
same
problem
every
year
it
comes
back
the
next
year,
you're
doing
the
same
thing,
take
the
limited
resources
and
you
spread
it
out.
I
think
what
some
of
the
things
I'm
hearing
council
Barnes
has
alluded
to
some
of
the
questions
he
hears.
What
we
hear
we
hear
more
and
more
about
CPD
and
9-1-1.
That's
what
we
hear.
That's
where
the
concerns
come
from
in
the
public.
O
They
want
a
patrol
officer,
I'm,
sorry,
but
they
you
know,
look
there's
needs
out
there
first
responders
and
they
all
do
an
excellent
job
and
they're
providing
the
services
but
I
get
more
calls
and
concerns,
and
that
seems
to
be.
The
topic
in
community
is
9-1-1
the
part
one
crimes
that
mr.
Hickey
talked
about,
that
those
kind
of
things
that's
addressed
through
911
you've
got
limited
manpower,
limited
resources.
O
Your
manpower
is
not
growing
any
limited
resource,
it's
not
growing,
I
mean
you've,
got
a
you've,
got
a
situation
there
and,
and
then
your
costs
are
continuing
to
go
up
every
year.
I
think
people
I
don't
know
if
they
really
understand
that
you
know
when
you
look
at
it
from
that
angle,
and
you
know
certainly,
hopefully
something
any
time
we
do
like
this
year
with,
what's
being
proposed
in
the
mayor's
budget.
That's
an
additional
increase
out
of
that
Olas
fund,
where
it's
going
to
continue
to
go
up
on
the
salary
side,
yep.
J
O
So
you
you're
utilizing
that
in
many
different
ways
and
then
when
it
comes
time,
everybody
wants
some
more
of
it.
It's
just
not
there.
It's
been
used
already.
It's
been
spread
out
all
these
different
places.
So
that's
why
it's
tough
to
deal
with
that.
You
know.
Look
if
sales
tax,
the
saving
grace
is
that
you
know
face
it.
I
mean
the
what's
happening
to
us
today
with
internet
sells
things
like
that.
You
know
the
internet
that
we
have
I
mean
people
are
buying
more
and
more
online.
That's
their
choice!
O
That's
their
option,
that's
their
freedom
right,
but
it
hurts
us
on
the
sales
tax
side
locally,
because
we're
not
getting
any
of
that
we're
not
getting
any
of
that
and
that's
why
I
think
that
numbers
tends
to
stay
in
Columbus
Georgia
tends
to
stay
stagnant
or
the
same
trend
every
year.
It's
not
increasing
that
much.
There
was
a
little
uptick
right
there
and
sales
tax
this
year,
that's
a
blessing.
O
This
was
really
going
to
be
a
key
year
from
that
standpoint
to
see
with
the
rest
of
the
economy,
doing
this
national
average
that
what
was
going
to
happen
in
Columbus
as
far
as
the
sales
tax
revenue
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
on
par
with
the
national
average
and
the
increases,
but
we're
getting
hurt
in
that
area.
That's
you
just
got
a
you
got
to
understand.
Now
we
could
take
the
guess
what
what
I
struggle
is
is
how
do
you
think
those
limited
resources
now
and
start
dealing
with
priorities.
J
O
That's
what
we're
struggling
with
right
now
and
what
you
talked
about
mr.
Hickey.
A
lot
of
those
are
priorities
that
are
out
there
in
the
community
right
now,
so
you
know,
or
we
face
with
taking
the
limited
resources
and
sticking
them
where
the
concern
where
the
needs
are
or
do
we
keep
spreading
them
out.
That's
a
big!
That's
a
big
struggle!
That's
a
big
big
question
mark
what
we
can
do,
what
this
body
can
do,
I'm
concerned
with
CPD,
actually
I
mean
I'm
gonna.
O
Tell
you
straight
up
that
I'm
concerned
about
the
middle
leadership
in
CPD,
I
mean
it's
getting
smaller
and
smaller
and
smaller.
That's
a
concern
whether
I'm,
here
this
body's
here
there'll
be
a
new
mayor
coming
in
soon.
You
know
a
lot
of
these
people
be
retired.
That's
going
to
be
a
major
asset,
that's
bordering
crisis
when
you
start
thinking
about
it.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do?
O
You
know
we
could
do
the
mayor
and
I
think
when
we
did
the
implement
of
the
recruitment
retention,
you
could
focus
a
little
more
on
that
tenshun.
Maybe
you
know
it
may
not
solve
compression,
but
you
can
address
it
a
little
bit,
maybe
with
the
the
paid
reform
retention
aspect
of
where
we
dealt
with
the
three
five
seven
ten
years
right.
B
F
O
Increase
in
those
you
could
increase
that
it
would
deal
a
little
bit
with
compression,
not
totally,
but
it
would,
and
it
would
maybe
help
on
the
on
retaining
more
of
our
middle
leadership.
Those
are
things
that
this
council
can
do.
I
mean
there's
some
resources,
but
if
you
start
spreading
my
point
as
you
start
spreading
it
out
and
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
requests
coming
in
this
budget
cycle,
then
you're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
do
that.
O
I
mean
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that,
because
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
really
a
it's
bordering
on
crisis.
We've
got
to
address
that
and
certainly
capital
replacement.
That's
all
you
guys
hear
about
me
talking
about
that
all
the
time,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
important
thing
that
could
be
done.
It's
not
fifteen
million
dollars
mayor's.
That
would
have.
If
you
saw
the
whole
thing.
O
But
could
you
make
an
effort
in
that
area
and
to
work
on
some
of
your
priorities?
That
would
be
priorities.
You
know
like
I
said.
Parity
was
a
blessing
in
some
places.
Cuz
everybody
benefits
or
it's
a
curse.
Well,
you
don't
have
what
you
need
then
you're
having
struggle
to
find
it.
So
you
got
to
balance
that
and
that's
something
I
hope
that
we
discuss
here
during
this
budget
cycle.
Thank
you,
man.
Well,.
B
Thank
you,
I
gotta
say
if
there
was
one
thing
that
we
needed
to
do
to
increase
our
first
responder
pay
for
the
police
department,
it
would
be.
We
cannot
adopt
parity
as
as
difficult
and
emotional
as
that
is
there
are
over
1200,
post,
certified
or
otherwise.
Similarly,
certified
Public
Safety
individuals
that,
if
you
give,
if
you
believed
in
parity,
if
you
adopted
parity,
which
is
wonderful
concept,
we
would
have
had
to
give
this
20.
25
percent
increase.
We've
done
over
time
with
the
police
department
to
1200
people.
B
It
could
not
have
been
done
it's
hard
enough
to
do
it
with
408
410
480
folks,
it's
impossible
to
do
it
if
you
adopt
full
parity
and
so
I
hope
in
the
years
going
forward
when
I
won't
be
here,
but
I'll
be
cheering
you
all
on
that.
We
continue
to.
You
know:
increase
pay
for
those
hard-working
public
safety,
folks
who
put
their
life
on
the
line
to
the
folks
deputies
and
our
jails
dealing
with
violent
criminals
who
put
their
life
online
every
day.
B
They
show
up
our
firefighters
who
run
into
burning
homes,
to
pull
people
out,
and
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
address
this.
But
if
CPD
and
9-1-1
is
going
to
be
the
priority,
then
you
can't
do
absolute
parity,
you
just
you
can't
do
it.
You're
gonna
have
to
come
up
with
some
other
type
of
measurement,
and
that's
that's
really.
The
struggle
mystery
key.
B
There's
no
way
we
could
have
raised
to
the
police
department
pay
as
we
did
if
we
had
been
having
absolute
parity,
and
so
it
was
suspended
for
good
or
bad
during
this
administration,
and
but
it
had
to
be
done
to
do
what
we
did
for
the
police
department.
So
I
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
that.
We're
gonna
have
that
discussion.
B
Actually
here
in
just
a
little
bit,
we've
we've
got
a
Public
Safety
Department
coming
up,
but
that
is
one
of
the
the
biggest
threats
and
that
we
had
to
address
in
compression
and
I
think
councillor.
Davis
is
absolutely
right.
With
the
structure
we
have
with
pay
reform
that
we
did
with
the
police
department,
you
all
as
councillors,
have
the
option
going
forward
to
increase
that
yeah.
You
can
go
up
from
it's
like
a
thousand
thirteen
hundred
fifteen
hundred
we'll
take
it
to
1300
1500
two
thousand
dollars.
O
The
mate
and
the
mater's
right
well,
but
what
we
haven't
said
either
what
we're
talking
about
was
done
with
him
budget.
It
was
done
with
him
budgets
done
with
in
CPD
budget,
because
there
was
no
more
revenue
to
deal
with.
How
did
we
do
that?
We
took
seven.
Sixteen
sixteen
positions
out
of
the
hundred
we
said
we
weren't
gonna
do
that,
but
that
was
the
crisis
that
we've
been
talking
about.
We
had
to
do
something
to
recruit
and
retention.
It
was
we
had
to
do
something.
Is
it
enough?
Is
the
question?
O
That's
what
we're
talking
about?
Is
it
enough?
You
know
we
might
have
to
take
some
more
of
those
positions.
I
have
to
utilize
some
more
of
that
money.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
where
that
stop
in
line
is,
but
if
the
citizens
are
requests
and
demanding
it,
that
needs
to
be
a
conversation
out
in
the
community
too,
because
we,
you
know
face
it.
Just
are
you
really
going
to
hire
a
hundred
officers
or
we're
gonna
pick
up
50?
O
Well,
if
you're
not,
then
we
need
maybe
to
work
on
some
of
the
areas
of
retention
and
that
mid-level
leadership,
that
is
it
I,
don't
have
to
tell
anybody
that
I
mean
that's,
that's
your
future,
and
if
it's
not
there,
you
kind
of
lose
chief,
you
lose
the
department,
I
mean
it
won't
be
at
standards.
It
is
today,
probably
most
likely
and
and
and
it's
gonna
be
threatened.
I
would
think
it
would
be
threatened.
So
these
are
things
that
need
to
be
dealt
with
as
time
goes
by.
Thank
you,
Mary
all.
B
Y
Here's
a
burning
comment
and
it's
not
going
to
be
politically
correct,
I,
don't
think,
especially
with
the
financial
folks,
but
I
have
monies
left
in
my
budget
every
year
through
salary
savings,
I
have
a
couple
million
dollars
left
in
there
just
about
every
year
in
salary.
Savings
I
can
take
that
money
and
be
very
frugal
with
it
and
even
come
back
to
Council.
If
you
want
me
to
and
spend
that
on,
capital
I
could
build
up,
the
capital
I
could
build
up
the
assets
and
the
resources,
but
I
think
at
some
point
in
time.
B
Your
decision
yeah
well
we're
and
we're
gonna
get
into
that
chief
I
hear
you.
It
was
always
been
the
policy
of
counsel
not
to
do
it.
We
allowed
it
a
couple
years
because
we
were
having
such
a
bad
time
with
revenue
and
that's
certainly
you're.
Absolutely
right.
Councils,
prerogative
and
I
know
you're
going
to
be
in
there,
pitching
for
that
big
time
and
and
councils
going
to
have
tough
decision
to
make
I
will
say
if
you
do
that,
we
will
not
be
at
63
days,
because
some
of
that
money
is
counting
on
that
63
day.
B
N
N
Came
up,
yeah
and,
and
and
the
majority
of
the
people
there
because
what's
go
skip,
did
a
good
job
explaining
the
budget
did
a
very
good
job,
but
too
much
almost
to
a
letter
that
people
say
council
needs
to
put
the
priorities
where
they
should
be
placed
and
I
know
it
all.
It's
with
us
and
I'm
just
going
to
be
honest
with
you.
If
my
priorities
is
to
have
the
community
safe,
that
we
need
to
act
like
it.
J
B
K
The
time
is
on
and
I
haven't
started
to
speak,
yet
this
still
has
it
hasn't
taken
to
five
minutes
Oh
before
you
do
that
I
want
to
talk
about
what
pop
barn
said
in
regards
to
end
regular
citizen.
Okay,
you
put
me
on
public
agenda.
Okay,
I
cannot
talk
with
you
about
that
later.
Mr.
Barnett's
I'm
talking
mr.
Barnes
I,
wanted
to
know.
Can
I
talk
with
you
about
that
later
when
I'm
not
on
time.
K
Selected
city
officials,
elected
city
officials
and
citizens
of
Columbus
Georgia
I
am
appearing
on
this
day
this.
What
time
is
it
now
is
it
afternoon?
Yet
it's
still
morning,
okay,
good
I'm
appearing
this
morning,
to
reiterate
my
request
to
meet
with
the
Public
Safety
Director
to
research,
Tomlinson
I
can
and
I
will
keep
coming
seeking.
K
K
Thank
you
because
this
is
directed
directly
to
the
Public
Safety
Director
that
you
hold
position.
This
is
the
case
to
the
report
number
that
I
want
to
meet
in
the
same
room
with
the
Public
Safety
Director
Theresa
Tomlinson,
and
the
composer
of
the
case
report
number
that
was
filed
by
a
police,
Columbus
police
officer.
K
You
notice,
since
December
I
haven't
sent
the
police
officer's
name,
but
this
is
the
month
two
years
ago,
2016
that
I
became
familiar
with
the
particular
police
officer
that
wrote
this
case
case
report
number
I've
only
seen
him
two
times
since
then,
when
he
came
to
answer
my
call
for
help
and
when
I
asked
him
to
provide.
For
me,
the
police
report.
K
K
She
provides
mental
clutter
at
the
end
of
what
I
have
to
say
about
I
want
to
meet
with
you.
She
comes
up
with.
Oh,
this
must
be
something
related
to
the
church.
Well,
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
church
directly,
oh
well.
We
have
to
send
it
to
the
courts.
Well,
if
she
would
meet
with
me
concerning
this
case
number
report,
there
would
be
no
even
not
even
a
mention
of
court.
Just
like
you
know,
ID
and
upit.
Are
the
boys
went
on
and
said
guilty
no
need
for
a
trial.
K
Then
the
same
thing
would
happen
in
my
way
of
thinking
is
if
we
were
able
to
meet
with
the
composer
of
this
Columbus
Police
Department,
who
wrote
this
report
I
will
gain
some
understanding
and
perhaps
the
public
will
we
all.
We
have
one
person
in
the
audience
of
this
entire
city,
and
this
is
a
council
meeting.
K
Last
April
the
tense
I
spoke
that
I
was
going
to
try
to
get
Theresa
Tomlinson
attention
by
going
down
to
the
government
center
where
her
office
is
but
I
found
out,
and
it
came
to
my
mind
that
her
office
for
Public,
Safety
Director,
is
that
the
Public
Safety
Center.
So
when
I
leave
here,
I'll
be
going
there
applying
for
my
right
to
pick
it.
So
maybe
I'll
gather
enough
attention.
K
Is
that
all
about
or
tree
hosting,
Palmore
well
I'm,
not
going
to
say
a
word
while
I'm
picketing,
but
perhaps
a
meeting
can
be
set
up
by
the
Public
Safety
Director
as
to
why
I
have
not
gotten
any
attention
since
December
2017
about
a
police
report
that
I'm
concerned
about
that
has
affected
the
ordinary
host
and
Palmore
and
no
one
speaks
for
me.
I
can
speak
for
myself
and
another
thing:
I
am
not
I'd
not
raise
up
every
morning.
K
Thinking
about
how
I
can
be
a
person
receiving
service
from
any
of
these
law
enforcement
officers
at
710
Street
I'm.
Only
here
to
speak.
The
truth
now,
as
I
have
said,
I
go
to
the
public
to
the
clerk
Council
of
clerk's
office
back
downstairs
in
the
future
I'm
going
to
go
and
see
the
city
manager
concerning
something
but
I'm
going
to
let
the
sheriff
know
that
I
want
to
get
a
meeting
with
the
city
council
manager
in
a
timely
manner.
K
K
One
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
thought
the
Public
Safety
Director
would
be
concerned
about
a
citizen
such
as
myself,
coming
and
saying
to
her
that
I
want
it.
I
would
like
a
meeting
doesn't
have
to
take
as
long
as
the
meeting
that
the
five
minute
Brian
mr.
Hickey
took,
which
exceeded
I,
don't
know
how
many
more
minutes
I'm
going
to
say
at
least
thirty,
and
it
looks
like
she's
given
me
two
minutes
two
more
minutes,
but
at
the
end
of
this
presentation,
I
hope.
K
It's
not
said
that
this
has
anything
to
do
with
the
church,
because
I
I
have
learned
that
a
church
has
bylaws
and
if
you
can't
understand
the
bylaws,
they
have
people
there
to
understand
help
you
understand
and
they
are
supported
by
law
enforcement
of
the
city.
I
can
tell
you
about
that
if
you
want
to
have
a
meeting
with
Audrey
host
and
paramour
about
that
type
of
action,
but
right
now
my
main
focus
on
my
main
focus
is
mrs.
Theresa
Tomlinson.
K
This
is
the
case
number
that
I
want
you
to
meet
with
me
on.
Since
I've
talked
to
you
about
since
December
1,
7
0,
1,
3,
2,
1,
1
2
0
0
1,
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
church.
That
was
the
erroneous.
Some
people
would
call
it
a
distortion
of
information,
but
I
got
it
right
here
for
you
to
see
and
anybody
else
in
the
city
to
see
so
now,
I
want
to
know.
K
Why
has
it
taken
so
long
for
any
of
the
council
members
to
say
anything
at
the
end
of
all
my
previous
presentations
in
January,
February,
March,
April
and
I'm,
hoping
someone
will
be
on
the
on
the
buzzer
to
say
something
today.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
and,
like
I,
said.
If
I
have
to
come
back,
I
have
enough
energy
about
what
is
happening
to
come
back.
I
know,
you'll
be
leaving,
but
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
deter
me
I'm,
going
to
keep
asking
and
I'm
going
to
keep
asking
for
the
composure.
K
K
Dealing
with
a
Columbus
Georgia
issue
because
of
the
fact
it
involves
a
business
that
Columbus
Georgia
has
permitted
to
work
here,
and
so
the
police
officer
was
called
I
called
the
police
officer
myself
for
the
business.
For
my
protection,
this
is
the
second
time
I
had
called
the
police
officer.
Well,
I
didn't
get
a
police
report
from
those
two
police
officers,
the
second
time
they
sent
one
officer
and
the
one
officer
that
came
I,
don't
understand
the
type
of
police
reporting
that
he
did.
I
see
and.
J
K
K
K
Okay,
well
we're
talking
about
the
church
issue
and
she's
coming
to
us
about
a
church
issue,
but
we
don't
have
anything
to
tell
her,
but
that
the
church
is
closely
related
to
the
Columbus
Police
Department,
because
if
the
church
decides
that
they
want
to
arrest
me
like
they
did
three
times
three
times
since
they
wanted
to
arrest
me
three
times
they
called
the
Columbus
Police
Department
and
the
other
charges
were
expunged.
Why?
Because
there
was
no
evidence
of
me
doing
anything
criminal.
Let's,
let's
understand
this.
I
owe
you
turned
my
office.
K
They
I
did
no
physical
harm
to
anyone,
I
threatened.
No
one
I
did
no
physical
harm
to
the
building
of
the
church.
What
I
did
was
what
I
do
I
talk,
and
so,
therefore
they
didn't
want
to
hear
what
I
had
to
say.
So
they
say:
okay,
well,
we'll
just
get
rid
of
her
by
calling
the
police
and
saying
that
she's
disorderly
so
I,
don't
have
you
know,
I
have
other
places.
I
can
go
besides
a
search
to
talk.
You
understand
and
I
appreciate
public
agenda.
K
K
J
B
K
W
It
was
next
in
line
anyway,
as
a
counselor
Barnes
was
explained
in
everybody.
There's
a
procedure,
then
we
have
no
control
over.
That's
why
I
was
asking
if
you
had
been
through
the
advisory
group
without
the
doctor
that
did
that
that
so,
based
on
what
you're
saying
today,
all
we
can
do
from
this.
These
ten
seats
here
is
to
basically
request
the
same
as
you.
As
for
someone
meeting
with
you.
We
have
no
power
here
to
make
anyone
meet
with
you.
K
K
W
W
W
K
W
Saying
that
there's
nothing
we
can
do
up
here
to
vote
to
force
anybody
to
meet
your
request.
So
I'm
saying
I
can
sit
down
and
talk
to
you
and
everything,
but
it's
nothing.
I
can
do
to
make
that
meeting
take
place.
That's
why
I've
been
quiet
because
I
can't,
as
you
request
it,
has
to
be
answer
from
the
person
you
requesting
from.
K
J
K
W
K
I
say
you
know:
I
just
I'm
only
concerned
about
her
calendar,
understand
what
I'm
saying
and
that's
why
I'm
here,
I,
don't
go
I,
don't
go
to
her
office
because
see
that's
down
there
at
the
Government,
Center
and
I've
been
approached
by
people
saying.
Do
you
want
me
to
get
to
Sheriff
I
said
get
the
sheriff
get
the
sheriff
for
who,
and
they
say
for
you,
I
said
well:
did
I
aggress
you
did
I
did
I
physically
aggressive.
Have
I
living
damage
to
this
building
you
know.
K
Has
anyone
been
able
to
say
that
Oh
every
host,
somehow
more
came
in
and
did
anything
to
them?
So
me
being
addressed
and
saying,
do
I
want
to
see
this?
Do
you
want
me
to
get
the
sheriff
means
that
you
have
the
authority
cuz?
This
is
your
house.
You
know
when
I,
when
you
come
to
my
house,
I'm
the
authority
and
Walter
we've
the
authority
there,
but
see
when
you
at
the
Government
Center
I
realize
you
well
I've
been
told
about
the
sheriff
by
Theresa,
Tomlinson
and
I
say
hugely.
K
Those
are
only
two
people
who
have
asked
me.
Do
you
want
me
to
get
to
share
and,
like
I
told
him
I
didn't
come
here
to
see
the
sheriff
I
came
here
to
make
an
appointment,
to
see
you
and
that's
why
I
say
when
I
finish
here,
I'm
going
to
go,
get
my
my
paperwork
so
that
I
could
be
picketing
at
the
right
place:
cuz
she's
she's!
This
is
a
public
safety
director
issue,
there's
not
a
mayoral
issue,
because
it
looks
like
to
me
the
mayoral
issues
are
all
financial.
K
You
understand
I'm,
not
here,
to
discuss
any
finance
I'm
here
to
discuss
getting
the
composer
of
this
public.
This
case
report
number
all
I
want
to
do
is
haves
up,
though,
that
person,
Theresa,
Tomlinson
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
my
husband
to
come
with
me
because
this
has
affected.
Oh,
it's
a
constant
power
Warren
and
what
affects
autosum
Tamara
affects
all
five
people
that
six
people
that
live
in
the
house
the
same
and
you
know
I,
have
time.
I
have
time.
Okay,.
B
M
B
B
S
You,
madam
mayor
and
good
afternoon,
I
thought
when
I
would
get
to
my
agenda
today.
It
would
be
good
morning
because
we
we
intentionally
prepared
what
we
thought
would
be
a
short
agenda
because
of
the
budget
discussion
review
session.
That
would
take
place
immediately
following
council
meeting,
and
so
when
I
heard
the
comment
that
there's
only
one
person
in
the
audience
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
specially
prepared
a
light
agenda
that
we
could
get
through
the
agenda
today
that
we
can
get
on
to
the
budget
discussion
so
I.
Take
it.
S
One
not
only
that
we
livestream
our
council
meetings
and
we
live
streaming
budget
sessions
and
we
post
all
on
land
that
a
person
can
go
online
on
our
website
at
any
time,
Columbus
Gao
and
they
can
click
and
view
online
intent.
So
we
are
very
transparent
and
I
thought
I
just
needed
to
say
that
for
any
new
citizens
or
for
those
watching
and
there
I
clear
on
how
transparent
we
are.
B
S
Little
bit
well
and
we're
asking
council
to
authorize
the
filing
of
a
declaration
of
taking
by
the
city
attorney
or
his
representative
for
acquisition
of
land
under
the
authority
of
the
official
code
of
Georgia.
We
have
come
to
you
many
times
in
the
past
when
we
have
something
that
is
holding
up
moving
forward
with
a
road
project
that
is
important
to
the
citizens
of
this
community,
and
we
have
requested
condemnation
most
in
most
cases
that
I
can
think
of.
S
Just
Road
would
be
the
property
that
we
are
talking
about
and
I'll
tell
you
the
property
next
to
it,
and
then
the
apartments
going
around
the
curve
up
towards
Carver
we've
acquired
those
property
as
well
as
we
move
forward
with
this
project,
and
in
fact
you
know
one
property
owner
I.
Think,
council
Barnes,
you
called
me
when
we
weren't
going
to
purchase
that
property
and
they
wanted
us
to
purchase
the
property
and
we've
worked
out
the
situation
with
that
property
that
we
able
to
purchase
it.
S
And
sometimes
people
want
more
for
the
property
than
it's
worth.
We
pay
the
fair
market
value
of
property
and
when
we
can't
reach
an
agreement
or
we
can't
fan
parties
who
own
the
property,
we
will
pay
the
money
into
the
court.
And
then,
when
we
are
able
to
get
before
the
judge
before
the
court,
then
we
will
settle
the
matter
and
we've
already
set
aside
the
money
and
we
pay
fair
market
value
for
those
properties
and
other
things
associated
with
those
properties.
S
L
S
We
as
I
said
we.
Yes,
we
pay
the
money
into
the
court
at
fair
market
value,
we
pay
for
relocation
and
some
other
things
that
would
be
explained
later
to
the
property
owner,
but
they
are
fairly
compensated
for
their
property
and
the
inconvenience
that
they
would
go
through
to
relocate
and
find
another
property
and
construction
and
so
forth.
And
so
the
word
the
legalese
would
be
taped.
But
it's
fairly
compensated
based
on
fair
market
value.
B
P
Well,
just
one
more
follow-up
on
that
taking
is
a
correct
term.
A
total
taking
in
this
case
and
a
condemnation
is
another
term
that
you've
heard
in
the
law.
But
what
will
be
paid
into
court
is
the
estimated
value
on
this
piece
of
property
on
the
corner.
That's
seven
hundred
fourteen
thousand
seven
hundred
thirty-seven
dollars
and,
of
course
that
will
be
the
value
that's
perceived
by
the
owner.
P
L
M
M
B
It
court
gets
to
rule
I
mean
we're
tendering.
This
amount
to
the
court,
and
this
property
owner
will
have
the
opportunity
to
come
in
and
say
this
isn't
enough.
Here
are
some
appraisals
or
my
neighbor
sold
their
property
for
this,
and
then
the
judge
will
determine
whether
or
not
the
amount
we
have
offered
to
pay.
Is
the
fair
market
value
under
the
under
the
taking
statutes
in
law?
And
if
it's
not,
then
the
he'll
issue
an
order.
He
or
she
will
issue
an
order
requiring
us
to
pay
more.
That's.
B
B
M
B
We've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
items:
a
through
J,
that's
trailers,
Chattahoochee
River,
Walk,
repairs,
light
poles,
the
bus
route
signs
and
poles
change
order.
Six
for
forest
road
bridges,
state
mandated
solid
waste
disposal
fees,
replacement
of
over
tactical
vests
for
police
officers,
stop
stick
for
police
department,
shotguns
and
sidesaddle
mounts
for
the
police
department,
tasers
and
associated
equipment
for
the
police
department,
emergency
purchase
regarding
audited
services
and.
S
B
S
Mayor
item
J
and
you
just
received
a
handout
that
we
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
and
you've
got
a
letter
from
our
external
auditor.
All
black
Fortenberry
and
Nina's
LLP
and
I
am
just
going
to
pull
some
excerpts
from
a
letter
that
they
sent
to
us
and
for
your
information
and
for
those
watching
by
television.
S
But
a
letter
came
from
John
C
Fortenberry
dated
excuse
me,
April
23rd,
2018,
relative
to
our
audit
and
services
contract,
our
RFP
number,
thirteen
double
O.
Twenty-One
and
you
can
read
it,
but
for
those
watching
I'll
just
do
some
excerpts.
They
express
appreciation
for
the
professional
engagement
they
have
enjoyed
and
collaboratively
maintained,
providing
auditing
services
for
the
consolidated
government
of
Columbus,
but
goes
on
to
say.
Regrettably,
our
firm
must
rescind
our
acceptance
of
the
renewal
of
the
above-mentioned
contract.
S
This
decision
is
made
as
a
result
of
our
firm
recently
experience
in
multiple
unforeseen
events
that
we
unbeli
recognize
what
directly
affect
our
ability
to
provide
the
expected
level
of
service
needed
and
customarily
given
by
our
firm.
It
goes
on
to
say
these
events
have
been
trial,
'some
and
include
losing
a
dear
partner
in
death.
Another
partner
simultaneously
has
received
a
significant
cancer
diagnosis
involved
in
preparing
for
stem-cell
transplant
surgeries
and
months
of
extensive
treatment.
Plus
we
have
had
two
staff:
accountants
resign.
S
These
individuals
were
part
of
the
team
working
on
the
consolidated
government's
audit
engagement
upon
careful
consideration
at
this
time.
We
must
provide
you
with
our
notification
to
rescind,
and
that
is
from
Albright
Fortenberry,
and
then
you
have
a
letter
from
our
finance
director,
Angelica
Alexander
and
analogous
share
excerpts
from
it.
S
In
the
third
paragraph
we
reach
out
to
the
second
highest,
ranked
vendor
from
RFP
number
13
double
OT,
one
which
was
Malden
and
Jenkins
to
see
if
they
were
still
interested
in
providing
auditing
services
to
the
city.
We
intend
to
include
the
procurement
of
auditing
services
from
Malden
and
Jenkins
on
the
May
22nd
2018
purchase
agenda.
We
would
like
to
express
many
things
in
our
sincerest
appreciation:
Albright
Ford
in
the
area
and
Nina's
LLP
for
their
assistance
and
guidance
over
the
years.
S
S
We
will
be
bringing
it
back
to
you
for
your
vote
and
approval
on
May
22nd
and
again
they
do
come
highly
recommended
by
our
current
external
auditor.
With
that
I've
probably
taken
up
everything
our
finance
director
was
going
to
say,
but
if
you've
got
something
else
to
a
it,
I
would
ask
that
you
do
it
at
this
time
no
vote
today
we
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
it
today
and,
and
you
would
have
time
to
ask
any
questions
and
think
about
whatever
and
we'll
come
back
to
you.
AA
I
just
wanted
to
also
make
mention,
though,
attached
to
the
packet
is
just
a
some
biographical
information
with
Malden
and
Jenkins
I'm,
a
partner
in
charge.
Mr.
Miller
Edwards
will
be
here
on
May
22nd.
So
if
there
is
any
questions
that
you
have
concerning
the
information
in
the
packets,
he
can
address
it
at
that
time.
Okay,.
AA
The
original
contract
was
a
five-year
contract
with
five
one-year
renewables,
Albright
Fortenberry
and
Niners
were
able
to
complete
the
first
dive
losing
the
contract.
So
at
this
point
we
were
in
the
one-year
renewables.
So
that's
the
contract
that
we're
going
forward
with
with
modern
and
Jenkins.
So
we
would
renew
the
contract
every
year.
It
would
be
a
mutual
agreement
between
the
city
and
modern
in
Jenkins
every
year
to
new
for
the
next
five
years.
Thank
you
all.
J
AC
AC
So
just
list
me
I'm
the
grant
manager
for
this
grant
the
grant.
So
what
we've
done
so
far
is
we
went
through
the
RFP
process
and
we
selected
Tara
Khan,
as
our
environmental
consultant.
Tyr
Khan
is
working
with
a
group
called
Hester
group
and
what
the
Hester
group
will
do
is
going
to
assist
us
with
our
community
outreach
on
this
grant
and
tear
kana
be
the
one
performing
the
environmental
site
assessments.
AC
So
it
was.
The
grant
was
geared
towards
economic
redevelopment
in
that
target
area.
We're
awarded
$300,000
200,000
worker
hazardous
hazardous
substances,
which
consists
of
areas
such
as
dry
cleaners,
bandung,
dry
cleaners
and
stuff,
like
that
petroleum
substances,
100
thousand,
which
is
lean
towards
abandoned
gas
stations
and
so
we'll
use
the
environmental
assessments
it'll
be
to
conduct
assessments
on
these
brownfield.
These
types
of
Brownsville
properties.
AC
So
some
of
the
tasks
that
we'll
be
doing
for
the
grant
is
community
outreach,
we'll
be
doing
a
site
inventory
phase,
one
environmental
site,
assessments
based
to
environmental
site
assessments
and
clean
up
or
use
planning.
The
reports
that
will
be
done
by
cat
aircon
will
be
provided
to
the
city
EPA
and
whoever
the
property
owner
is
that
we
conduct
these
assessments
on
so
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
brief
definition.
AC
So
brownfields
are
real
properties
with
environmental
twist.
That
complicates,
but
does
not
prevent
redevelopment
of
a
property.
Most
often,
the
property
is
not
even
contaminated
brownfields.
Our
property
is
caught
between
clean
and
dirty
they're
clean
enough
not
to
be
public
hazards,
but
they're
perceived
to
be
dirty
for
bankers
and
investors
to
feel
comfortable
with
that
property.
AC
So
some
brownfield
example
examples
would
be
a
brand
abandoned
dry
cleaners
or
gas
stations,
landfills,
junkyards
and
even
vacant
properties,
because
we
might
not
know
what
was
actually
on
that
property
in
the
past,
and
so
with
this
brownfield
program,
it'll
provide
a
grant
to
property
owners
and
prospective
purchasers
or
developers.
So
it's
not
just
to
be
used
on
city
on
public
property.
It
can
be
used
by
private
on
private
property,
where
we
actually
will
have.
Our
environmental
professionals
can
go
and
actually
perform.
AC
This
testing
provide
guidance
and
walk
through
the
redevelopment
process
and
help
there's
some
of
these
properties
between
become
redevelopment
and
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation
just
wanted
to
make
note
that
we
do
currently
have
about
three
separate
properties
that
are
currently
under
getting
phase
one's
completed.
Some
of
them
are
along
2nd
Avenue,
and
then
we
also
just
held
our
first
public
meeting
last
Thursday
at
comer
and
we're
planning
to
have
a
developer,
a
realtor's
meeting
for
professional
development
on
May
21st
at
11:30
and
military
library.
If
any
one
of
y'all
are
interested
in
attending.
AC
S
Mayor
we
brought
this
update
I.
Think
one
of
the
council
members
saw
that
these
public
information
hearings
or
meetings
have
been
announced
and
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
So
I
told
them.
We
would
just
give
a
brief
update
at
this
meeting
and
if
there
are
no
question
that
concludes
the
city
manager.
B
L
AC
Does
this
grant
covers
that
specific
target
area,
because
when
we
had
to
apply
for
the
grant,
we
had
to
give
them
what
our
target
area
it
was
the
reason
we
selected
that
target
area
is
cos
EPA
when
they
award
this
funding.
They
want
areas
that
we've
got
current
developments
on,
but
so
since
that
area's
a
tad,
it's
2nd
Avenue
overlay,
we
got
all
kinds
of
things
kind
of
going
on
in
the
area
area.
L
AC
AC
B
AD
Mayor
members
of
council
on
the
clerk's
agenda,
I
have
some
temporary
closing
applications,
the
first
being
application
of
Greater
Bellwood
Baptist
Church
to
close
44th
Street
on
May
18th
from
6
to
12
in
connection
with
an
outdoor
church
picnic
one
could
close,
Olson
Avenue
on
Saturday
June,
2nd
from
12
to
7
in
connection
with
the
block
party
to
close
17th
Street
from
Forest
Avenue
to
18th
Avenue,
Cherokee
Avenue
and
from
Fool
annoyed
Drive
to
Columbus
high
school
June
30th
in
connection
with
the
River
City
soapbox
derby
had
biographical
sketches
of
mr.
ken
crop
Lord.
AD
This
is
counselor
allons
nominee
for
the
golf
course
Authority
biographical
sketch
of
mr.
Kenneth
Davis
Council
Woodsen's
nominee
for
the
golf
course
Authority.
A
biographical
sketch
of
mr.
John
Ken
Sperry,
who
is
interested
in
the
serving
on
the
Hospital
Authority,
and
we
received
correspondence
from
the
Medical
Center
Hospital
Authority.
They
had
reappointed
dr.
Michael
quorum
for
another
term.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
confirm,
get.
AD
J
B
I've
got
a
motion
and
second,
the
letter
of
resignation
be
received
with
regrets.
All
those
in
favor,
please
state,
aye
I've
got
a
motion,
a
second
that
the
minutes
be
received.
That
is
the
minutes
of
excuse
me:
the
board
of
tax
assessor's,
the
Civic
Center
Advisory
Board,
the
Hospital
Authority
of
Columbus,
the
Housing
Authority
of
Columbus,
the
pension
fund,
employees,
Board
of
Trustees
and
the
planning
advisory
board.
All
those
in
favor,
please
state
I,.
Q
Also
may
recall
last
meeting
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
animal
control.
Advisory
board
spoke
with
deputy
city
attorney,
Lucy
chef
tall
and
she's,
going
to
do
some
further
research
on
the
makeup
of
the
membership
and
report
back
to
counseling.
That
will
address
the
remaining
spots
to
be
filled
at
that
time.
AD
K
B
L
J
B
M
B
F
B
J
P
B
K
AD
AD
AD
Then,
on
a
community
development,
Advisory
Council,
we
still
need
someone
for
district
three
miss
Kendall's
not
eligible
to
succeed
herself
as
well
as
mr.
Don
cook
for
district
six,
then
we'll
need
someone
for
mr.
Gregory
Smith
for
the
district
10
seat
on
the
Comprehensive
Plan
stakeholders
committee.
We
still
need
one
someone
for
Michael
go
far.
Can
we
get
a
motion
for
confirmation?
AD
AD
AD
Also
got
an
email
from
mr.
Ken
Henson
yesterday.
He
would
like
us
to
also
go
ahead
and
nominate
mr.
James
Webster.
They
want
to
go
ahead
and
appoint
someone
I
understand
he's
he
has
resigned,
but
he's
asking
that
we
do
go
ahead
and
nominate
it.
Okay,
so
can
I
have
a
motion
to
go
ahead
and
fort
these
over
to
the
authority.
Okay,
we've
got.
AD
Then
we
still
need
someone
for
District
two.
Also
mr.
John
delay.
Oh
he's
not
interested
in
serving
another
time.
Miss
Karen
Henderson
is
not
eligible
and
Miss
Christine
silletti
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
from
her
miss
miss
Wanda
jinkin
is
not
eligible.
Mr.
Kenneth
lor
and
miss
Katie
Franklin
has
been
Rinat
mated.
They
can
be
confirmed.
Okay,.
AD
J
AD
B
B
AB
O
O
We
need
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
that,
because
I
think
that
the
water
is
really
standing
there
when
it
rains.
It's
not
draining
I,
think
that
that
concern
was
brought
up
a
while
back,
but
that's
what's
happening,
which
is
really
creating
a
a
hazard,
a
danger
hazard,
you
know,
I
know
they
drilled
some
holes
in
the
road
to
let
the
water
out.
But
what
happens?
Is
they
get
clocked
and
the
water's
still
there?