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A
Mr
city
manager,
if
I
may
so-
and
I
appreciate
you
mayor
from
moving
this
up
to
have
mr
ken
hewlett
exide
environmental
response,
trust
path
forward,
consultant
inc
to
come
forward
and,
and
the
reason
he's
here
mayor.
You
you've
stated
that
many
of
us
know
that
exited
battery
operated
here
in
our
city
on
joy,
road
for
many
years
and
excite
battery
is
no
longer
in
business
at
that
location.
A
He
pressed
us
to
make
sure
that
there
there's
absolutely
nothing
going
on
in
terms
of
contamination
or
health
or
life-threatening
concerns,
and
so
our
staff
have
worked
with
epd
epa
and-
and
so
we
have
mr
ken
hewlett
here
today,
with
path
forward
consulting
inc
and
he
is
going
to
present
and
answer
all
of
your
questions
that
our
citizens,
your
constituents,
will
know
whether
and
and
there
is
contamination
or
any
health
or
life-threatening
concerns
they
should
have.
And
so
with
that.
Mr
hewlett
thank.
B
B
I
have
a
short
presentation
to
summarize,
for
you
the
the
fact
sheet
that
we
provided
previously
that
followed
the
conversation
that
we
had
with
some
of
you
a
couple
of
months
ago.
So
we'll
start
here
with
a
little
bit
of
background
about
the
bankruptcy
and
the
trust
and,
and
why
we're
here
to
begin
with,
so
the
site
was
operated.
I
think
you
probably
know
this,
but
I
I'm
going
to
cover
it.
Anyway.
The
the
site
was
operated
from
1961
until
2020
as
a
lead
acid,
battery
manufacturing
and
distribution
facility.
B
There
was
a
it
was
a
17th
property
that
path
forward
manages
it's
out
in
california,
but
it's
also
in
a
separate
trust,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
that
the
georgia
environmental
protection
division
is
not
only
a
beneficiary
of
this
trust.
It
is
also
the
the
lead
agency.
So
that
means
they
oversee
the
work
that
we
do.
They
review
our
work
plans,
they
review
our
budgets,
they
approve
the
work
and
we
have
bi-weekly
communications
with
them.
B
So
they
know,
what's
going
on
on
this
project,
a
little
bit
more
about
the
trust
and
our
responsibilities
and
obligations
at
the
top
of
the
list.
Here
we
are
not
affiliated
with
excite
technologies.
I
I'm
sure
all
of
you
know
that
I
will
tell
you
that
it's
been
a
challenge
with,
in
particular
vendors.
B
We
had
our
own
challenges
with
georgia
power
here.
Unfortunately,
sometimes
vendors
see
the
word
exide
and
they
say
well.
This
is
our
second
bite
at
the
apple
to
go,
get
those
bills
that
the
other
guys
didn't
pay.
So
we
had
a
fair
challenge:
convincing
georgia
power
that
we
are
not
excited
technologies
and
we
literally
cannot
pay
their
old
bills.
B
B
That
really
is
the
goal
here:
to
try
to
sell
the
property
and
transfer
those
environmental
liabilities
to
a
willing,
a
buyer
who
can
then
turn
the
property
into
another
productive
use.
Then
this
last
bullet
here
is
is
highlighted
because
it's
very
important
that
the
columbus
funds
are
limited
in
that
they
are
not
anywhere
near.
What
george
epd
believes
is
the
the
amount
required
to
fully
remediate
the
site.
So
that
means
that
the
trust
has
to
triage
the
facility
and
the
site's
needs.
B
So,
let's
talk
about
what
we've
done
so
far.
The
smartest
thing
we
did
was
contract
with
american
environmental
and
construction
services
to
provide
our
operations,
engineering
and
consulting
services.
They're
a
company
based
in
alpharetta
we've
got
full-time
staff
on
the
site,
helping
us
operate
the
site,
they've
got
office,
staff
and
engineers
helping
us
out
they've
been
inside
in
georgia
for
25
years,
and
they
do
magnificent
work.
They
are
they're
they're,
helping
the
trust,
saving
us.
You
know
every
day
they
do
great
work
here
with
me.
B
B
We
have
managed
to
do
a
little
bit
of
asset
sales.
I
I
that
the
picture
I
posted
here
is
is
a
nasty
piece
of
equipment
that
we
somehow
managed
to
sell
found
somebody
who'd
like
to
buy
it
we're
happy
to
offload
it.
We
would
have
to
pay
to
decontaminate
that
and
pay
somebody
to
throw
it
away,
but
we
got
somebody
to
to
give
us
some
money
for
it.
It
wasn't
a
lot,
but
you
know
every
little
bit
helps.
B
We've
also
managed
some
cost
savings
and
avoidance
aecs
has
done
a
great
job
of
optimizing.
Our
systems
on
site,
shutting
down
electric
circuits.
We
don't
need
our
very
large.
Electric
bills
are
now
much
more
manageable
and
we're
also
being
able
to
we're
also
been
able
to
remove
some
equipment
from
the
site.
Aecs
found
a
a
lead
smelter
who
wanted
a
bunch
of
really
horrible,
looking
lead
smelting
equipment
in
our
facility.
That
is
apparently
useful,
even
though
nobody
else
wanted
to
buy
it.
B
So
he's
hauling
that
stuff
off
right
now,
we've
sent
40
something
truckloads
off
the
site,
and
this
is
all
material
that
we
would
have
had
to
decontaminate,
decommission,
haul
off
and
pay
somebody
to
to
to
to
get
rid
of
it's.
It's
it's
going
away
for
free,
so
he
didn't
pay
us,
but
we
didn't
pay
anything
for
it
to
go
away.
It's
a
great
deal
for
the
trust,
a
little
more
on
on
on
trust
accomplishments
in
columbus.
This
is
wastewater
and
groundwater
treatments.
B
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
you
all
get
a
lot
of
rain
here
and
when,
when,
when
water
hits
the
ground
or
a
horizontal
surface
on
this
site,
if
it
gets
led-
and
it
does
on
most
of
our
property
because
there's
a
lot
of
lead-
we
have
to
treat
it
before
it
can
leave
the
site.
So
in
the
last
not
even
a
year
now
we've
treated
38
million
gallons
of
storm
water
and
and
and
actually
wastewater
without
any
exceedances
of
our
permitted
regulatory
standards.
B
That's
a
terrific
accomplishment,
it's
a
lot
of
water
and
and
even
on
top
of
that,
aecs
designed
a
system
to
divert
water,
clean
water
that
was
off
the
site
and
running
onto
our
site
and
having
to
cause
us
to
to
treat
more
water
than
we
really
needed
to
so
they've
managed
to
get
that
water.
Keep
that
water
off
the
site
and
that
saved
the
trust,
a
great
deal
of
money
not
having
to
treat
that
and
then
they
they
have
to
do
it's
all
their
old
system.
So
they
are
making
repairs
all
the
time.
B
We
talked
about
a
vapor
intrusion
study
when
we
did
our
our
phone
call
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
I
know
this
is
a
an
important
item
for
a
lot
of
folks.
We
performed
a
preliminary
evaluation
using
a
computer
model
that
predicts
the
risk
associated
with
vapors,
potentially
moving
from
impacted
groundwater
up
into
a
structure
at
ground
level.
B
We
used
a
a
model
called
the
john
johnson,
an
edinger
model.
This
is
a
an
epa
recommended
model.
They
have
a
spreadsheet
on
an
epa
website
that
we
can
enter
certain
amounts
of
data
into
it
comes
with
default
data,
but
we
have
site-specific
data
so
that
we
can
have
more
confidence
in
the
results
that
we
got.
I
just
there
are
a
handful
of
examples
of
the
kinds
of
data
that
we
have
for
this
site:
groundwater
temperature
depth
of
groundwater,
and
the
upshot
of
all
this
is
that
we
got
a
very
favorable
result.
B
From
the
run
of
this.
This
study
we
provided
a
draft
report
to
epd
and
the
draft
was
provided
to
the
city
as
well,
and
the
possibility
of
vapor
intrusion
in
local
structures
is
very
low.
Based
on
the
fact
that
groundwater
depth
is
quite
deep
and
the
soils
beneath
the
site
are
very
low,
they're,
very
low
permeability,
it's
a
small
grain
size
and
it's
it's
difficult
for
vapors
to
travel
through
that
soil.
B
So
this
report
is
subject
to
epa
approval.
Epd
approval.
Pardon
me
they
have
provided
some
comments
to
us
that
do
not
dispute
our
conclusion,
but
they
would
like
us
to
beef
up
the
the
data
and
the
support.
So
they've
asked
us
to
do
a
little
bit
more
work.
We
are
doing
that
now
and
when
that's
done,
we'll
we'll
prevent
present
a
final
report
to
epd
and
upon
their
review
and
approval,
we'll
send
that
report
to
you
as
well.
B
So
some
of
the
work
we're
doing
right
now
on
the
site,
we're
dismantling
decontaminating
and
removing
contaminated
bag
houses
and
ducting
and
the
associated
stacks.
You
can
see
some
of
those
right
there
in
the
shot,
as
I
said,
we're
removing
some
lead,
smelting
equipment
and
we've
been
investigating
the
source
of
the
volatile
organic
compounds
in
groundwater
that
we
just
discussed
a
moment
ago
about
the
in
the
vapor
intrusion
study.
But
it's
important,
I
think,
for
a
moment
to
talk
about
groundwater.
B
Just
I
want
you
all
to
understand
that
groundwater
underneath
the
site
is
not
being
consumed.
There
are
no
groundwater
wells
within
three
miles
of
the
site,
so
this
is
not
water
that
anybody
is
drinking.
Obviously
you
don't
like
it
in
the
condition
it
is,
but
it's
important
to
understand
that
okay
work
we
have
coming
up.
This
is
plans
we
right
now
are
are
completing
for
submittal
to
epd.
We
expect
to
do
this
work
over
the
next
few
months
and
finish
it
in
late
this
year,
early
next
year.
B
This
is
going
after
the
the
main
source
of
lead
on
this
site.
We're
going
to
do
that
by
demolishing
one
of
the
buildings
building
two
we're
going
to
decontaminate,
building
one
and
then
we're
going
to
restore
the
site.
So
this
means
we're
going
to
be
doing
asbestos
abatement,
waste
and
equipment,
removal,
we're
going
to
restore
the
site
back
to
grade
and
then
we're
going
to
clean
and
or
seal
as
many
of
the
horizontal
surfaces
as
we
can
so
that
we
don't
have
to
treat
as
much
storm
water
as
we've
been
treating.
B
A
Epd,
environmental
protection,
division
and
epa,
environmental
protection
agency,
mr
hewlett
and
others
all
are
involved
to
to
make
sure
and-
and
we
feel
good
about
the
report
that
we
are
getting
and
you
heard
him
saying
that
he
they
send
their
reports
to
epd,
yes,
sir,
and
and
then
they
scrutinize
it.
So
I
want
you
to
know
that
you
know
everything
is
happening
as
you
want
it
to
see
happen
to
make
sure
that
our
citizens
are
safe.
C
A
D
Mr
ewing,
I'm
bruce
huff
city
manager
mentioned
I'm
the
district
person
there.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
taking
time
to
reach
back
out
to
us,
and,
let
me
know,
what's
going
on,
I
spoke
with
city
manager
in
the
beginning
about
the
major
major
concern
was
any
vapers
that
you
mentioned.
That
would
be
escaping
that
facility
into
the
neighborhood
area
and
any
of
that
groundwater
that
would
seep
over
into
the
neighborhood
is
that
possible?
B
So
I
mean,
and
that's
what
that
vapor
intrusion
study
was
doing
was
essentially
saying,
okay,
so
with
the
the
conditions
in
that
groundwater
that
are
under
structures
around
the
site,
what
is
the
possibility
of
vapors
coming
up
from
groundwater
and
into
homes?
And
the
answer
is
it's-
the
possibility
is
very,
very
low
that
the
the
risk
is
below
the
the
risk
levels
that
the
the
state
sets.
D
Okay,
because
I
had
some
citizens
years
ago
that
were
working
in
the
yard
and
for
some
reason
they
became
dizzy
and
did
not
know
why
and
that's
how
this
came
up
with
me.
Speaking
with
the
city
manager,
they
were
concerned
that
there
were
vapers
in
the
air
some
some
time
back,
that
they
were
not
aware
of
and
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
were
safe.
D
I
was
out
there
there's
a
set
of
houses
around
it
and
there's
a
trailer
park
around
there,
and
I
was
out
at
the
trailer
park
for
a
meeting
last
week
and
the
same
concerns
so
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
safe
for
the
neighbors
and
as
far
as
the
cleanup
in
the
future,
it
seems
like
you're
on
task.
As
far
as
what
you're
trying
to
get
accomplished,
I
know
how
complicated
it
is.
B
B
So
I
you
know
I
this
vapor
intrusion
study
is,
I
mean
it's
still,
it's
a
model
of
of
the
the
conditions
that
are
out
there
right
now
and
we're
very
comfortable
with
the
results.
You
know
there
are
risk
levels
that
are
established
by
the
state
where,
if
those
numbers
are
exceeded,
if
they're
met
or
exceeded,
we
get
worried
and
the
state
would
would
call
for
action
to
be
taken.
B
Well,
the
numbers
we
have
out
there
are
well
below
almost
a
couple
of
orders
of
magnitude
below
the
risk
levels
that
the
state
deems
worthy
of
concern.
So
I
I
think
that
I
can
say
comfortably
that
the
the
analysis
we've
performed
shows
that
the
risk
is
is
well
below
the
level.
The
state
thinks
is
one
of
concern
and.
A
C
Thank
you,
you
know
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
we
are
waiting,
because
this
is
going
to
be
submitted
to
the
epd
and
then
epd
will
put
their
stamp
on
it
after
you've
completed
the
additional
data
retrieval
that
they've
asked
for
and
at
that
point
in
time
we
will
get
a
a
statement
that
has
been
kind
of
blessed
by
the
epd
as
well.
Yes,.
B
E
E
Epta
has
been
involved,
the
city
has
and
supposedly
they
stopped,
but
it's
come
back,
but
it's
been
so
hard
for
the
citizens
to
get
back
with
that
company
because
it's
coming
across
the
water
right,
our
boarding,
sister
alabama
phoenix
city.
So
that's
where
my
concern
comes
in
because
everything
can
be
seen
perfect
at
the
time,
but
you
don't
know
what
tomorrow's
going
to
hold
right
now.
We're
still
battling
that,
and
I've
talked
to
our
city
attorney
several
times
about
it
and
it's
up
to
the
citizens.
E
You
know
we
can't
help
them
it's
up
to
the
citizens,
so
they
need
a
point
of
contact
or
something
for
the
future
because
we're
we're
suffering
in
oakland
park
and
we
can't
get
no
help
and
that
stud
is
still
there.
I
collect
the
tissue
with
all
the
black
sauce
on
it
and
I
have
it
in
my
kitchen
right
now.
You
know
that
paper
and
it's
like
knocking
on
a
brick
wall
trying
to
get
some
help.
A
Four
706.225.42
zero
six
and
I
was
the
reason
I
look
back.
I
know
her
direct
line.
I
was
trying
to
avoid
giving
her
direct
line,
but
she
wants
you
to
have
a
direct
land
so,
but
but
if
they
call
her,
then
we
will
know
all
of
the
concerns
or
if
there
are
multiple
concerns,
then
we're
dealing
with
who
we
need
to
deal
with
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it
or
get
an
answer.
So
so
I
would
ask
that
be
coordinated
through
my
office
through
deputy
city
manager,
pam
hodge
at
706-225-40426-706-225-4206.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
and,
and
I'm
not
being
negative,
I'm
just
being
responsive,
because
I
know
I
know
what
happens
later,
I'm
living
it
so
I
know
exactly,
and
I
know
that
counselor
huff
will
get
those
phone
calls
and
them
people
upset
and
who
does
he
turn
to
so
that
is
my
reason
for
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
city
manager.
As
always,
we
can
depend
on
you
to
help
us
and
to
yourself,
sir,
thank
you
for
respecting
our
community
and
our
wishes
and
being
here
for
to
speak
to
us
today.
Welcome
councillor.
C
F
B
B
F
B
Clean
it
up
as
much
as
we
can
with
the
funds
that
we
have,
we
we
know,
based
on
what
epd
has
told
us,
is
the
entire
liability
for
the
site
that
we
do
not.
We
were
not
given
the
funds
to
entirely
remediate
the
site,
we'll
do
as
much
as
we
can
we'll
get
it
as
far
as
we
can,
and
we
are
already
engaged
with
some
potential
developers
who
are
interested
in
purchasing
the
property,
but
they
want
to
see
how
far
we
can
get
the
remediation
and
then
hopefully
they'll
take
that
on.
B
C
G
Have
a
succession
plan
that
goes
beyond
this
that
we're
we're
actually
talking
about
for
the
years
for
the
future
and
how
we're
going
to
address
it,
because
if
she's
saying
I
don't
know
how
many
years
that
she's
been
dealing
with
the
issue
she's
had
and
councillor
woods
has
been
on
council
for
27
years.
That's
longevity!
A
A
A
A
Issues
well,
let
me
just
say
that
when
you
all
express
concern
concern,
we
didn't
just
rely
on
our
internal
staff.
We
went
to
an
engineering
expert,
and
so
we
are
being
guided
by
our
outside
engineering
consultants
and
and
we
will
continue
to
monitor
and
so
so
that
you
know
that
we
are
using
our
own
engineering
experts.
A
F
Go
yeah
to
the
conference
to
the
subject
the
right.
Now,
the
trust
is
the
rightful
fiduciary
of
the
property
to
I
guess
through
the
courts
they've.
Given
you
the
responsibility
to
clean
up
the
land.
Do
everything
that
you
need
to
do
for
remediation
from
an
environmental
standpoint,
but
then
they
also
give
you
the
responsibility
to
market
and
sell
the
property
funds
go
into
the
well
all
the
proceeds,
I
guess
would
go
into
the
fund
or
the
trust.
F
I
don't
know
what's
done
with
it
after
that,
but
I
guess
it
goes
to
clean
up
all
these
sites
across
the
country.
But
after
that
I
mean
really
what
we're
talking
about.
It
becomes
a
legal
issue
and
you're
the
rightful
seller
of
the
property,
and
then
it's
a
zoning
matter.
I
don't
know
what
the
property's
owned
currently,
but
it
becomes
a
private
property
legal
matter,
and
I
mean
what
I'm
here
in
the
city
doesn't
really
have
any
any
responsibility
or
any
ownership
or
decision
making
in
the
process.
Am
I
right.
B
So
I
think
so
we
we
own
the
property.
So
if
we
sell
the
property
we
won't
be
able
to,
we
will
have
to
get
epd's
approval
of
that
sale,
and
that
means
that
any
buyer
of
the
property
is
going
to
have
to
agree
to
perform
the
remediation
that
epd
deems
necessary.
So
that's
that's.
I
think
the
succession
plan
that
works
best
we
sell
it
to
a
responsible
buyer
who
takes
ownership
and
and
care,
takes
that
property
into
our
mediated
state.
A
C
They
have
ascertained
through
their
tests
that
that
there
is
it's
in
the
numbers
they
showed
us
are
a
fraction
of
what
is
considered
acceptable.
It
is
well
well
below
that,
and
that
was
our
first
concern
and
and
to
their
credit,
it
was
their
first
concern
is
what
were
the?
What
were
the
contamination
impacts
on
the
surrounding
areas,
because
it
affects
our
residents
and
it
affects
their
ability
to
dispose
of
property.