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A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
would
ask
if
you
would
either
silence
or
turn
your
cell
phones
off
today
again
we're
operating
under
different
circumstances
and
ways
meetings
are
being
held
or
different.
We
have
some
commissioners
that
are
watching
by
television
or
by
youtube
or-
and
we
possibly
be
forwarding
questions
to
me,
so
I
may
be
looking
down
at
my
phone
at
times.
A
I
remind
those
the
audience
that
are
watching
on
television.
This
is
the
first
hearing
of
any
rezoning
text,
change
or
special
exception
request
brought
before
us
today.
We
will
first
hear
a
reading
of
the
staff
report
for
the
case
by
planning
staff
and
ask
the
applicant
then
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
case.
We
will
then
give
the
opportunity
for
anyone
the
audience
to
speak,
for
or
against
that
request,
or
to
inquire
about
that
request.
A
Our
commissioners
will
then
have
time
for
needed
discussion
on
the
case.
Once
a
motion
is
made
and
seconded
by
the
commission,
a
vote
will
take
place
and
a
recommendation
will
be
rendered.
The
case
will
go
back
to
the
planning
department
for
their
independent
recommendation.
If
a
favorable
recommendation
is
given,
then
the
case
is
forwarded
to
the
city
council
with
the
two
independent
recommendations.
A
Council
will
make
a
final
decision
at
a
second
public
meeting
and
that'll
be
the
second
reading
all
right.
Our
first
agenda
item
is
no
minutes,
so
we
don't
have
any
minutes
to
approve
all
right.
So
we'll
move
on.
We
have
one
rezoning
case
this
morning
and
that
case
is
r
e
z
in
10
21
2
0,
0
7..
This
is
a
request
to
result:
resume
2.0
acres
of
land
located
at
6100
whitesville
road
current
zoning
is
nc
neighborhood
commercial
proposed
zoning
is
gc
general
commercial.
A
B
Sir,
the
general
land
use
is
inconsistent
for
planning
area.
A
the
current
land
use
designation
is
general
commercial
futures
single
family
residential.
It
is
compatible
with
the
existing
lane
uses.
The
property
does
not
lie
within
the
floodway
and
floodplain
area.
The
developer
will
need
an
approved
drainage
plan
prior
to
issuance
of
a
site
development
permit.
If
a
permit
is
required,
property
is
served
by
all
city
services.
Average
annual
daily
trips
will
increase
to
401
trips.
If
used
for
commercial
use,
the
level
of
service
will
remain
at
a
level
of
b.
B
The
site
shall
meet
the
codes
and
regulations
of
the
ccg
for
commercial
usage,
there'll
be
no
school
impact.
The
site
should
include
a
category
c
buffer
along
all
property
lines,
bordered
by
the
sfr-3
zoning
district,
three
options
under
category
c
or
excuse
me
20
feet
with
a
certain
amount
of
canopy
trees,
understory
trees,
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
100
linear
feet,
20
feet
with
a
certain
amount
of
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
100
linear
feet
and
a
wood
fence
or
masonry
wall
30
feet
undisturbed,
natural
buffer,
there's,
no,
no
fort.
B
Bending
recommendation,
no
dri
recommendation
the
surroundings
owning
to
the
north.
As
sfr-3
to
the
south,
as
nc
to
the
east
is
gc
to
the
west,
is
gc
25
property
owners
within
300
feet
of
the
subject.
Property
were
notified
or
re.
The
result.
Excuse
me
the
rezoning
request.
The
planning
department
received
two
calls
and
or
emails
regarding
the
rezoning.
B
There's
no
additional
informa.
Well.
Excuse
me
the
there's,
no,
no
additional
information,
but
the
two
calls
there
weren't
in
approval
or
opposition.
They
were
just
concerned
with
the
buffer
and
possibly
providing
the
applicant
providing
a
a
fence
or
wall
along
the
when
you're
looking
at
the
map.
I
guess
that
would
be
to
the
left
side
where
fox
chapel
drive
is
to
those
residents.
D
B
A
All
right,
I
see
you're
already
at
the
podium.
If
you
would
give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
please.
D
Well,
while
we
were
getting
our
techno
technical
stuff
done
good.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
george
mize,
I'm
with
the
law
firm
of
paige
kranum.
That's
1111
bay
avenue.
I'm
here
today
representing
the
applicant,
which
is
sonic
development
out
of
charlotte
north
carolina.
Sonic
development
is
a
subsidiary
of
sonic
automotive,
which
is
a
fortune
500
company
and
one
of
its
affiliates
echo
park.
Automotive
is
sonic
automotive's
company-owned
network
of
dealerships
that
specialize
in
the
sale
of
one
to
four-year-old
vehicles.
D
Together.
These
companies
form
one
of
the
nation's
top
automotive
retail
groups,
with
sales
of
about
10
billion
dollars,
but
with
plans
or
targets
of
25
billion
by
the
year
2025..
These
companies
are
vibrant,
they're
growing
businesses
and
they
they
focus
on
the
mission
behind
echo's
name,
and
I
thought
this
was
kind
of
cute,
so
I
thought
I'd
bring
it
to
your
attention,
but
every
car
deserves
a
happy
owner.
That's
the
name
echo,
but
here
with
me
on
behalf
of
sonic
development
is
josh
eady.
D
Who
is
the
project
manager
today
we're
seeking
to
rezone
about
two
acres
of
land
located
near
the
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection
of
whitesville
road
and
bradley
park
drive
from
nc
to
gc,
and
this
is
just
the
proposed
site
plan
for
you
to
see
the
proposed
development
certainly
consistent,
compatible
surrounding
land
uses
up
and
down
whitesville
road,
as
well
as
bradley
park
drive.
You
have
a
lot
of
general
commercial
which
is
depicted
on
this.
Zoning
map
is
red
or
industrial,
which
is
the
light
purple.
D
Although
this
property
is
currently
zoned
in
sea,
neighborhood,
commercial,
historically,
its
use
and
the
use
of
the
surrounding
properties
would
really
best
be
described
as
a
general
commercial
use
and
not
a
neighborhood
commercial
use,
as
we
now
understand,
neighborhood
commercial
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
udo
in
2005,
this
particular
property
was
on
old
c2s.
What
I
call
it,
which
by
name
meant
neighborhood
commercial
but
which
by
use
and
application,
was
really
a
general
commercial
classification.
D
However,
when
the
udl
was
adopted,
all
of
these
nc
properties,
there
was
a
blanket
in
general
conversion
of
all
these
old
c2
properties
to
nc,
and
unfortunately,
this
conversion
rendered
many
of
those
nc
oc2.
If
you
will,
nc
properties
is
non-conforming
and
while
they're
used
for
main
general
commercial,
their
technical
classification
was
then
neighborhood
commercial,
along
with
the
the
limitations
that
go
with
neighborhood
commercial
now.
D
But
since
the
adoption
of
the
udo-
and
you
guys
are
probably
familiar
with
this-
there
have
been
many
many
rezonings
converting
these
current
nc
properties
back
to
gc
in
their
old
use
and
we
believe,
that's
appropriate
here.
What
my
client
plans
to
do
is
renovate
and
repurpose
this
existing
old
existing
bank
building
and
transform
it.
Here's
I've
got
some
pictures
of
what's
out
there
today,
but
we're
going
to
transform
it
into
an
echo
park.
Automotive
delivery
center,
and
I
can't
explain
that
to
you.
D
There
really
is
a
huge
difference
between
what
we're
proposing
to
do
or
planning
to
do,
and
what
a
traditional
car
lot
will
be.
Delivery,
centers
are
designed
for
delivering
vehicles
to
customers
and
not
for
storing
or
inventorying
vehicles,
customers.
They
select
their
vehicles
that
they
want
to
purchase
online.
They
complete
most
of
the
paperwork
online.
They
then
set
up
a
convenient
time
to
schedule
to
come
pick
up
their
chosen
car
and
finish
the
paperwork
at
that
time.
D
D
D
That's
not
exactly
right.
The
only
reason
we
chose.
That
is
because
we
wanted
to
be
safe
rather
than
sorry
and
we
went
ahead
and
rezoned
it
for
gc,
because
what
we
do
is
the
final
sale.
If
you
will,
the
finalization
of
the
paperwork
really
does
occur
on
site,
so
we
didn't
want
to
be
questioned
later
about
whether
or
not
we
have
a
sales
situation
or
whether
it
really
is
just
a
delivery
center.
D
So,
but
what
the
udl
requires
certain
things
of
an
automobile
sales
dealership
number
one:
it
requires
it
to
be
constructed,
a
six
foot,
opaque
fence
or
wall
between
the
subject,
property
and
any
adjoining
residential
property,
and
we're
going
to
ask
that
that
be
waived
and
second
there's
a
requirement
of
a
washing
facility.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
car
lots
have
washing
facilities
on
the
on
the
premises
and
the
udo
requires
that
that
be
at
least
100
feet
from
the
residential
property.
D
We're
going
to
ask
that
that
be
reduced
from
100
feet
to
90
feet
and
I'll.
Explain
that
a
little
bit
later
as
it
breaks
to
buffering
this
project
is
and
will
continue
to
be
well
buffered
and
I've
got
several
pictures
of
the
existing
heavily
wooded
buffer
that
exists
now
between
the
subject:
property
and
the
residential
property
to
the
north.
D
Okay,
now
I'm
going
backwards
on
it,
okay,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea
about
that,
but
the
udl
intersection
3.2.8
sets
for
certain
standards
for
all
those
sales.
And
again,
we've
talked
about
the
difference
between
your
garden,
variety,
auto
sales
and
what
we're
actually
going
to
be
doing,
but
it
requires
a
six
foot:
six
foot,
opaque
wall
or
fence
to
be
constructed
between
the
subject,
property
and
the
neighboring
residential
property.
D
But,
as
you
can
see
from
those
pictures,
the
current
existing
buffer
provides
ample
screening
and
buffering
and
in
addition,
what
our
use
is
going
to
be
way
less
intense,
even
than
the
bank
usage.
So
my
client
has
requested
that
as
a
condition
resulting
that
this
requirement
that
there
be
a
six
foot,
opaque
wall,
offense
be
constructed,
be
waived
or
deleted
in
this
situation.
D
But
assuming
this
hand
wash
could
even
be
considered
a
washing
facility,
usually
you
would
think
of
a
washing
facility
in
some
kind
of
mechanized
facility
where
the
cars
are
washed.
But
assuming
you
can
even
consider
this
a
wash
facility.
The
udm
udo
in
section
3.2.8
requires
auto
sales
to
make
sure
that
the
wash
facility
is
at
least
100
feet
from
the
residential
property.
Well,
we've
measured
that
and
the
measurements
come
out.
D
Different
depends
on
who
measures
it,
but
the
most
recent
one
we've
got
is
about
98
feet,
so
we
thought
we
would
like
to
reduce
that
100
foot
limitation
or
restriction
to
90
feet
so
that
way,
you're
you
know,
you're
covered
no
matter
who's.
Doing
the
the
measuring
the
property
is
serviced
by
all
public
facilities
and
infrastructure.
There'll
be
no
additional
investment
in
the
city's
part
in
that
regard,
there'll
be
no
negative
impact
to
the
facilities
or
infrastructure
or
to
traffic.
D
The
arizona
have
a
very
positive
economic
impact
to
the
city
and
its
citizens,
including
the
creation
of
numerous
construction
jobs.
During
about
a
two
to
three
month,
renovation
process,
together
with
substantial
increase
in
business
for
local
suppliers,
subcontractors,
electricians,
plumbers
and
others
who
support
the
construction
industry
and
we
anticipate
about
six
to
ten
new
permanent
jobs
once
the
delivery
center
is
up
and
running,
this
is
a
railroad
institute.
D
This
is
a
rare
win-win
situation
where
we'll
be
taking
an
existing
deteriorating
vacant
building
and
turn
it
into
a
vibrant
business,
and
in
return
my
client's
going
to
get
a
really
good
location.
That's
going
to
be
very
convenient
for
the
customers
to
come
by
and
pick
up
their
vehicles.
D
We
believe
our
zoning
requests
and
application
meet
all
the
requirements
for
rezoning.
The
proposed
gc
classification
is
certainly
consistent,
compatible
surrounding
land
uses.
All
public
facilities
are
located
at
the
site
to
be
no
negative
impact
to
those
facilities.
Therefore,
we
respect
the
request.
You
guys
approve
our
application
as
conditioned
and
that
you
recommend
approval
to
council,
josh
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
E
F
D
Between
four
and
eight-
and
I
said
wow-
that's
not
very
much,
but
if
you
multiply
that
times
six,
you
know
that's
twenty!
That's
24
cars
a
week
times
four
is
roughly
a
hundred
a
month,
all
of
a
sudden
wow,
that's
not
a
bad
operation,
but
we
don't
anticipate
four
to
eight
a
week
a
day.
So
the
amount
of
traffic
is
not
going
to
be
very
significant.
The
usage
is
not
going
to
be.
G
When
I
hear
echo
park
here,
you
know
eco-friendly,
is
there
gonna
be
any
like
lead
materials
used
for
the
repurpose
of
this
building
a
lease
certified
building?
Something
like
that.
H
G
H
Manager,
yes,
nice,
to
meet
you,
you
know,
but
there
are
starting
to
be
with
the
adoption
of
electric
vehicles
and
and
what
george
said
is
we
focus
on
the
one
to
four
year
old
used
vehicles
so
now,
as
those
become
more
popular,
those
will
start
coming
through
our
our
sales
cycle
as
well
too.
From
that
standpoint
and.
D
H
H
Of
it,
what
we've,
what
we've,
what
we
believe
and
approved
up
in
about
eight
other
markets
that
we're
doing
this
is
the
last
mile
to
your
house
is,
can
be
very
frustrating
and
expensive,
and
so,
instead
of
passing
that
cost
onto
the
customer
in
the
price
of
the
vehicle.
If
we
deliver
to
one
home
in
columbus
and
if
it's
very
a
convenient
location
for
people
to
show
up
and
pick
up
their
vehicle,
it
actually
becomes
a
lot
better
experience.
A
C
D
D
Well,
it's
really
dense
and
actually
it's.
If
you
look
at
the
survey
itself
there
when
they
set
up
this,
I
guess
bradley
company
did
at
developers,
investors
they
actually
own.
The
survey
designated
a
buffer
area.
So
that's
that's
been
there
forever.
Since
the
developments
back
in
the
late
60s
or
mid
70s.
A
A
A
Okay,
come
on
up
to
the
microphone
please
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
I
Patricia
brown
elizabeth
6201
fox
chapel
drive,
my
house
is
right
on
the
street,
and
mine
does
not
have
all
those
trees.
It's
the
next
door
neighbor.
They
have
two
little
two-year-old
twins,
but
the
first
picture
he
showed
you
can
see
that
it's
not
that
many
trees
right
there
and
I
was
just
wondering
what
it's
going
to
do
to
our
property
value.
B
I
A
So
it
would
probably
be
a
lot
less
than
what
you're
used
to
if
the
bank
were
in
full
operation,
but
they
can
address
that
if
you'd
like
them
to
to
you,
I
I
can't,
but
I
that's
that's
what
we're
seeing.
A
Yes,
ma'am
any
other
questions
from
anyone
else
all
right.
That's
it
all
right!
Commissioners,
if
you
would,
we
need
a
motion
on
this
case,
all
right,
miss
weekly,
yes,
I'd.
A
Okay,
do
you
want
to
add
the
waiver
of
requirements
for
the
opaque
fence
and
the
90
foot
require
reducing
from
190
foot
requirement
on
the
wash
station?
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
we
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second?
We
have
a
several
seconds
here.
All
those
in
favor
raise
your
hand
and
it's
unanimous.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
attention
all
right.
That
concludes
our
cases.
For
today
I
realize
it's
a
very
short
day
and
on
december,
the
1st
2021.
A
A
If
I
may
take
a
moment
under
new
business,
let
me
get
to
mine
I'd
like
to
take
the
council
the
possibility
of
doing
one
one
meeting
per
month.
Don't
know
how
that
falls
in
line
with
state
laws
as
far
as
rezoning
and
so
forth,
but
we
would
like.
I
would
like
to
ask
if
that's
something
the
commission
would
like
to
ask.
A
C
A
C
I
say
before
we.
B
Yes,
I
can
definitely
look
into
that.
I
obviously
will
have
to
look
at
state
law
and
see
if
that's
even
a
possibility.
I
also
go
back.
I
think
we
have
records
starting
about
1994
is
when
we
started
actually
like
tracking.
On
that
information.
B
G
All
right,
yes,
sir,
well,
if
possible.
Well,
if
we're
gonna
look
at
it,
if
we
got
peak
months,
we
can
go
to
two
and
slow
months.
We
can
go
to
one
definitely
yeah
something.
A
A
Right
well,
I
wish
wish
everyone
here
very
nice
happy
blessed
thanksgiving,
and
I
hope
you
all
make
it
back
here
for
the
december
1st
meeting,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
this
morning
we
are
dismissed.