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January 23, 2012, City Council Meeting Part Two of Two
A
And
you
just
fumbled
the
ball,
because
you
did
not
do
it,
you
had
the
opportunity
and
you
didn't
do
it
and
I
think
that's
how
my
colleague
sees
it
there
from
ward
2
and
others.
You
want
another
bite
at
the
apple
you're,
going
to
go
to
the
parliamentarian,
you're
going
to
go
to
the
council
president.
They
have
the
football
now
we'll
see
what
the
decision
is.
Thank
you.
C
Just
a
misunderstanding:
no,
no,
let
me
explain
to
you
before
I
got
up
before
anything
was
said:
councilman,
chad.
I
was
going
to
limit
everybody
to
three
minutes
and
then
someone
said
five
minutes
and
he
said,
let's
compromise
everybody's,
give
it
four
minutes
exactly
that's
absolutely
correct.
I
wouldn't
I
well.
The
reality
is,
and
I
respect
your
rules,
but
your
rules
are
wrong.
Your
council
rules
are
inconsistent
with
state
law.
Point
of
clarification.
D
The
the
rules
of
the
committee
are
generally
agreed
upon
by
the
chairperson.
The
four-minute
rule
is
for
public
speaking.
It
does
not
include
presentations
and
or
testimony
those
rules
are
usually
relaxed
because
we
realize
that
not
everyone
can
present
during
the
four-minute
period.
So
the
four-minute
rule,
just
as
this
the
speakers
this
evening,
it's
just
to
keep
the
move.
The
meeting
moving
for
public
speaking
because
we
get
multiple
people
that
speak
on
the
same
issue
with
the
same
comments,
but
the
presentation
portion
has
always
been
allowed
more
than
four
minutes.
C
Well,
I
was
only
given
four
minutes.
After
the
the
public
spoke,
there
was
about
20
25
members
of
hulk
spoke.
I
got
up
to
to
speak,
to
call
russ
crossman
who
were
the
traffic
and
the
site
engineer
and
and
councilman
carlos
said.
You've
had
your
four
minutes
and,
quite
frankly,
I
fully
expected
to
get
a
full
hearing
at
some
point
before
the
council,
because
it's
my
understanding
of
law,
state
law
is
that
that
this
any
committee
of
any
council
can't
bind
an
action
of
the
council.
C
Only
the
vote
of
the
full
council
has
the
legal
effect
of
a
formal
decision
and
and
respectfully
I've
never
received
any
kind
of
a
decision
from
the
committee.
I
always
believe
it
to
be
a
recommendation
and
I
realize
it's
coming
with
a
negative
recommendation,
but
I
still
have
a
right
to
to
put
a
case
on
and
make
a
presentation,
because,
ultimately,
when
you
go
to
superior
court,
they
look
at
the
evidence.
You
don't
get
another
hearing
in
the
court,
they
get.
D
One
quick
comment:
I
will.
I
will
not
vote
to
deny
this
because
of
the
reasons
I
gave
before.
I
think
it's
disingenuous
not
only
to
the
applicant
but
to
the
neighbors.
I
think
you
have
an
opportunity
to
put
some
restrictions
that
you
may
not
be
able
to
do
if
this
should
go
to
court,
let
alone
the
legal
expenses
involved.
E
D
F
D
E
A
C
H
A
A
Passes
7-0.
The
next
ordinance
of
council
president
is
12-11-3
ordnance.
In
amendment
of
chapter
17
of
the
code
of
city,
cranston,
2005,
title
zoning,
zoning
board
review
hearing
procedure,
this
audience
passed
three
to
one.
There
was
one
dissenter
in
committee
I
believe,
is
constantly
donating.
You
entertain
a
motion.
I
Thank
you,
council
president,
just
just
looking
at
the
the
language
in
this
in
the
underlying
language,
it
said
board
members
shall
be
sworn
in
before
the
city
council
clerk
shall
administer
to
each
member
an
open
or
permanent
affirmation
to
the
effect
that
such
zoning
board
members
shall
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
his
or
office
and
shall
support
the
constitutional
laws.
The
state
of
rhode,
island,
the
united
states
of
america,
the
ordinance
of
the
zoning
code
of
the
city
of
france.
I
G
D
J
B
I
well
for
not
an
amendment
to
your
amendment
but
could
use
the
microphone.
I
can't
hear
you
sorry
am
I
on
why?
Don't
we
just
have
them
do
one
oath
of
office
for
the
term
that
they're
in,
like
we
do
as
a
council,
we
do,
we
don't
say
an
oath
every
time
we
we
come
to
a
meeting.
So
would
one
oath
of
office
suffice
for
a
term
of
a
appointed
official
as
well
as
an
elected
official.
K
E
G
G
D
G
B
D
F
For
clarification,
if
the
council
makes
that
amendment
to
this,
then
the
existing
zoning
board
members
would
not
be
required
to
be
sworn
into
office
because
they're
in
the
middle
of
a
current
term
only
when
they
would
come
up
for
reappointment.
I
think
your
point
is
you
want
everyone
to
be
sworn
in
when
this
ordinance
is
passed?
I
would
assume,
and
then
logic
logically,
of
course
dictates
it
says
upon
assuming
the
duties
of
the
office
when
they're
appointed
for
a
five-year
term,
that's
the
beginning
of
their
duties.
They
wouldn't
have
to
be
appointed
every
year.
A
G
D
A
Thank
you,
council
president.
The
issue
from
my
understanding
is,
we
are
going
to
vote
on
section
one
at
this
time
after
amendment,
and
my
concern
is
that
I
I
concur
with
the
parliamentarian
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
adversarial
position
with
the
zoning
board.
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
dictatorial
position
with
the
zoning
board.
A
However,
during
the
hearing
and
audience
committee-
and
tonight
I
haven't
heard
from
one
member
of
the
zoning
board
for
or
against
this
ordinance,
I've
just
received
one
letter
from
from
mr
lapollo
and
his
concern.
So
if
it's
not
going
to
upset
the
zoning
board,
you
know
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
and
if
they
have
so
much
concern
that
one
member
came
here
to
speak
for
or
against
it,
that's
all
I'd
have
to
say.
D
A
D
F
D
A
Thank
you,
council
president.
I
I
again
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
I
hate
to
see
the
council
in
an
adversarial
position
with
the
zoning
board,
but
not
one.
Member
of
the
zoning
board
came
to
appear
before
my
committee
or
this
evening
to
speak
for
against
this.
This
section
of
this
ordinance.
So
in
lieu
of
that
I'll
be
supporting
my
colleague
from
ward
one.
M
On
that
point,
the
zoning
board
is
not
subject
to
the
council
other
than
appointment
power.
So
you
know
it
may
be
that
they
perceive
that
as
a
conflict.
I
don't
know
to
do
that,
but
you
know
their
concern
was
swearing
before
the
city
council.
That
would
put
them
in
a
subservient
position
and
I
councilman
stykos
took
that
out.
So
that
impression
would
not
be
there
at
least
with
the
zoning
board,
but
with
regard
to
they
really
don't
have
an
obligation
to
be
here
on
this
ordinance.
A
What
may
I
respond
to
that
sure?
Thank
you
through
the
chair,
pat,
I
don't
think
a
member
of
the
zoning
board
appearing
before
my
committee
in
testimony
is
making
them
subservient
to
the
ordinance
committee.
I
mean
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
receive
letters
as
a
councilman
about
zone
changes
in
my
award.
I
repair
before
the
zoning
board.
I
give
a
sp
speech
either
for
or
against
that
zone
change
and
the
zoning
board
decides
on
the
merits.
They
don't
either.
A
They
take
me
what
I
say
in
regard
or
they
don't,
and
it's
vice
versa.
They
can
come
before
my
committee.
They
can
speak
on
on
behalf
of
this.
They
can
speak
against
this
and
it
doesn't
make
them
subservient.
It
just
makes
us
able
to
make
a
better
decision,
because
we
have
the
proper
information
before
us.
D
K
K
K
I
don't
know
why
the
other
boards
and
commissions
conservation,
commission,
other
commissions,
weren't
weren't,
in
this
ordinance
upon
closing
a
testimonial
portion
she'll
proceed
to
deliberate
and
vote
on
the
matter
before
the
beginning
of
the
testimonial
portion
of
the
public
hearing
on
any
other
matter.
However,
state
law
dictates
that,
although
the
council
appoints
the
board
members,
45
24
specifically
says
the
the
zoning
board
shall
establish
written
rules
and
procedure.
K
Clearly,
state
law
determines
that
the
zoning
board
itself
can
establish
their
own
procedures
for
the
meeting
and
when
they
take
the
votes,
and-
and
this
is
this
is
very
important-
is
that
45
2461
essentially
says
following
a
public
hearing.
The
zoning
board
of
review
shall
render
a
decision
within
a
reasonable
period
of
time,
and
then
it
goes
on
to
give
the
zoning
board
a
30
30-day
essentially
window
to
make
that
decision.
K
K
K
Then
they
can't
begin
the
next
testimonial
portion
of
the
hearing
on
the
next
matter.
So
this
is
another
thing
where
state
law-
I
don't
want
to
say
trump
city
ordinance,
but
state
law
clearly
says
that
the
zoning
board
has
the
right
to
set
their
own
rules
and
procedures,
and
they
have
state
law.
Also
contemplates
that
many
times
a
decision
is
not
rendered
immediately
by
the
zoning
board.
K
With
that
said,
I
I
believe
that
the
the
best
procedure
and
practice
would
be
to
vote
after
it's
heard.
I
it
clearly
makes
sense,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
that
this
council,
or
this
ordinance,
would
not
be
effective
in
making
the
zoning
board
vote
the
way
the
planning
board
does,
which
is
frankly
the
way
I
would
prefer.
B
K
K
But
all
I'm
saying
is
that
and
there's
actually
a
case
which
I
brought
tonight,
which
I'll
give
to
mr
quinlan
that
the
procedure
which
the
zoning
board
does
as
far
as
hearing
everything,
then
voting
on
everything
was
challenged
in
court
and
the
court
upheld
the
procedure
in
a
2006
superior
court
case.
It
wasn't
a
supreme
court
case,
but
the
court
upheld
that
procedure.
So
it's
been
upheld
by
the
superior
court,
and
you
know
the
the
state
law
clearly
contemplates
that
they
have
the
right
to
conduct
the
meetings
in
the
way
that
they
do.
K
G
Okay,
three
things.
First,
I
would
very
much
disagree
with
mr
marola's
interpretation
of
the
way
this
is
worded.
It
says
it
doesn't
say
that
the
zoning
board
or
the
planning
board
has
to
vote
to
reject
or
accept
the
variance
being
proposed.
It
just
says
they
have
to
vote
on
the
matter,
so
they
could
vote
to
continue
to
the
next
meeting.
They
could
vote
to
make
a
decision
in
in
20
days.
G
K
K
M
H
G
M
Agree
with
councilman
psycho's
interpretation,
they
could
vote
to
continue
it
and
I
think
you
know,
logically,
if
they
wanted
to
review
more
evidence,
they
would
be
on
the
record
saying
and
the
public
would
know
at
the
time
of
the
conclusion
the
hearing
we're
going
to
continue.
This
look
at
some
more
evidence,
so
I
I
you
know,
I
don't
see
that
it
has
to
conflict
with
state
law.
But
again
I
have
not
read
the
case.
I
would
like
the
chance
to
do
that.
M
D
H
D
G
F
Apparently,
excuse
me
through
the
chair
apparently
last
month
this
happened
when
we
copy
these
packets.
We
feed
them
through
the
machine
on
the
automatic
feeder
and
apparently
it's
dropping
pages
and
so
we're
the
page.
There
are
three
pages
to
this
ordinance
and
the
third
page
has
been
dropped.
We're
copying
it
for
you
now
motion.
B
A
E
A
A
A
So
it
was,
it
was
at
that
hour,
but
I
I
can
attest
to
the
fact
that
you
know
when,
when
you're
deliberating
at
one
two
three
o'clock
in
the
morning,
you're
not
as
razor
sharp
as
you
would
be
at
9
30
p.m.
So
I
can
understand
the
council's
intent.
I
hope
the
party
will
they'll
support
this
section.
Thank
you.
E
M
B
The
classroom,
santa
maria
president,
thank
you.
I
brought
this
up
at
the
committee
meeting.
I
don't
think
we're
telling
the
zoning
board
how
to
vote
we're
just
asking
them
to
consider.
You
know
people
who
have
to
go
to
work
in
the
morning
and
those
decks
that
you
mentioned,
that
they
shouldn't
have
to
wait
till
the
end
of
the
night.
I
don't
think
it's
a
case
of
us
trying
to
usurp
their
authority
or
anything
we're
just
asking
them,
but.
K
K
K
I
D
D
And
I
it's
always
been
my
understanding
that
zoning
boards
are
appointed
by
the
council,
not
always
in
in
other
cities
and
towns,
but
with
an
arm's
length
situation
that
we're
not
supposed
to
really
interfere
with
them.
Anytime,
I've
gone
before
the
zoning
board.
I've
spoken
as
a
as
a
as
an
individual,
not
as
a
representative
of
the
council.
D
What
what
would
and
knowing
that
this
couldn't
be
binding
on
them
that
the
next
question
that
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
which
also
would
not
be
binding
upon
them,
is
I've
been
to
many
zoning
meetings
and
they
particularly
councilman
steichos
particularly
take
items
out
of
order
without
voting
on
taking
them
out
of
order.
We've
taken
some
things
or
taken
some
liberties
this
evening,
where
we've
asked
the
council
to
vote
on
on
doing
certain
procedures
or
or
amending
our
rules
or
taking
something
that
is
not
happening
there.
D
So
I've
gone
to
many
meetings
where
someone
says
I'm
second,
on
the
docket
and
at
11
30
they're
still
sitting
there
because
they've
taken,
you
know
multiple
testimony
from
lawyers
and
developers
and
all
of
that.
So
I
don't
know
that
this
is
going
to
accomplish
what
what
you,
what
you
may
intend
and
again,
knowing
that
it's
not
binding
on
them.
L
L
K
K
K
So
so
you
would
think
if
your
application
was
pending
in
december
and
it
got
continued
to
january
that
you
would
go
first,
but
that
they
take
it.
Essentially,
you
go
at
the
bottom
of
the
docket,
so
those
those
are
procedures
that
are
have
been
set
by
the
zoning
board,
which
again
as
long
as
they
conform
to
state
law,
you
know,
aren't
discriminatory,
have
their
open
meetings.
You
know
all
you
know
all
those
specific.
L
K
It
it
because
it
specifically
says
the
board,
the
meaning.
The
zoning
board
shall
establish
the
written
rules
or
procedures,
not
the
cop
in
in
the
other
parts
of
the
statute.
It
specifically
says
you
know:
city
council
shall
appoint
five
members
alternate
members
set
the
terms,
but
it
clearly
says
that
the
board
sets
the
procedures.
K
And
it
it
the
only
excuse
me
the
oversight
that
the
that
does,
that
the
city
council
does
have.
Is
you
know
if,
if
there's
some
vacancies
or
some
you
know
board
members,
it
has
done
something
illegal
and
they
want
to
that
the
board
member
removed.
The
city
council
obviously
could
come
in
and
and
remove
the
a
board
member
for
criminality.
K
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K
It
wouldn't
be
by,
in
my
opinion,
in
solicitor
rawson's
opinion
which
he
would
give
a
negative
recommendation
to
it,
wouldn't
have
any
not
only
the
zoning
board
planning
board
conservation
commission
it
just
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
be
binding
on
them.
They
could
continue
to
operate
the
way
they've
operated.
L
Know
what's
on
there?
Well,
I'm
not
I'm
just
no!
I
don't
know
I'm
looking
at
the
one
we're
talking
about
so
basically,
if
we,
if
this
city
council
today,
decides
to
pass
this
or
this
ordinance
from
from
hearing
from
you
legal
counsel
and
the
mayor's
office,
you
represent
the
mayor
as
well.
On
this,
or
I
mean
your
opinion,
is
that
it'd
be
a
negative
opinion,
correct.
K
L
B
Steve
you
weren't
at
the
committee
meeting,
but
there
was
some
telling
testimony
from
the
head
of
the
chamber
of
commerce.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
zoning
board
was
at
them.
I
don't
think
they
were,
but
some
of
these
small
businesses
and
people
are
paying.
I
don't
know
how
much
does
a
zoning
lawyer
make
an
hour
and
they
have
to
stay
for
the
whole
meeting.
K
M
It's,
let's
split
the
question:
not
whether
we're
allowed
to
do
it,
but
whether
or
not
the
zoning
board
has
to
obey
that,
given
the
state
law
sets
their
procedures,
I
was
not
aware
their
opinion
until
today
on
this
matter,
I
you
know.
I
think
that
they
have
a
good
argument,
that
this
is
procedural
and
I
think
I'll
make
it.
M
If
I
might
make
a
suggestion
that
we
spoke
about
a
minute
ago,
is
one
way
to
clear
that
up
to
convey
the
clear
opinion
that
this
council
has
that
they
should
vote
and
make
a
determination
matter
by
matter
before
moving
on
to
the
next
one.
There
are
alternative
ways
of
getting
there
other
than
an
ordinance,
and
you
know
I
the
point
that
the
solicitor
made.
I
it's
a
serious
point
as
to
is
this
a
procedure,
and
I
think
a
court
could
construe
it
to
be
a
procedure.
G
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D
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K
G
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D
D
P
Diana
gordon
363
pontiac
avenue
I've
heard
a
lot
of
concern.
I'm
concerned
about
what
we're
doing
to
little
business
and
big
business.
I've
been
to
a
couple
of
meetings.
Lately
I've
missed
a
couple,
but
it
seems
that
we're
not
nice
to
business
here
in
cranston.
We
push
them
away.
We
don't
give
them
a
chance
to
speak.
P
P
I'm
I
have
a
business
and
I
also
I
am
a
resident
and
I've
had
problems
with
a
business
making
too
much
impact
on
my
area,
and
I
did
something
about
it,
but
there
has
to
be
a
balance
right
now.
Things
are
good
within
that
business
and
myself,
and
I'm
looking
at
these
other
businesses
that
come
in
you
were
right,
pelletier
when
you
said
you
should
get
together
the
business
and
the
people
and
have
them
speak,
and
you
know,
because
that's
the
only
way
that
you
can
it's
a
balance.
P
It's
a
fine
balance.
If
you
push
business
away,
you
don't
have
any
money
to
run
the
city,
because
you
just
don't
get
enough
from
the
people,
you
get
it
from
the
businesses
and
that's
all
I
really
have
to
say
you
guys
have
to
make
your
judgments
on
the
final
impact
of
ever
of
everything.
But
you
know
you
have
to
balance
it.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
N
I
guess
I
can
speak
on
this
this
resolution
tonight,
because
in
the
last
three
years
the
firefighters
have
come
to
the
city
and
have
given
back
in
excess
of
five
million
dollars.
While
we
were
in
the
middle
of
a
contract,
so
we
didn't
have
to
come
to
the
table
and
and
these
negotiations
we
sat
down
with
the
mayor,
mr
strom
and
his
staff.
We
didn't
need
lawyers,
we
didn't
need
consulting
firms,
but
you
passed
a
resolution
tonight
to
bring
a
consulting
firm
in
to
give
you
suggestions
for
the
next
year's
budget.
N
I
sat
through
last
year's
budget
when
this
council
and
this
administration
probably
had
to
do
put
a
budget
together
in
the
worst
economic
times.
Any
of
us
have
seen
since
the
recession,
and
I
saw
the
hard
work
and
the
tough
decisions
made
by
the
administration
and
this
council.
You
had
to
make
tough
cuts
places
you
didn't
want
to
make
everybody
hopes.
There
was
money
to
go
around
for
everybody,
but
there
wasn't.
We
know.
Tough
cuts
had
to
be
made,
and
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
agrees.
N
When
we
came
in
to
make
on
our
concessions,
we
would
have
been
very
hesitant
to
give
you
in
excess
of
five
million
dollars
when
we
knew
that
five
hundred
thousand
of
that
would
be
going
to
the
berkshire
company,
because
if
I
heard
correctly,
they
get
ten
percent
of
any
savings
that
the
city
would
garner.
You
don't
need
a
consulting
firm
to
come
in
here.
That's
your
job!
That's
why
you
were
elected!
N
N
N
N
I
I
don't
think
that
this
this
berkshire
company
should
just
be
free
to
come
in
here
and
give
you
a
presentation
without
an
rfp.
So
that's
my
spiel.
It's
very
disheartening
that
that
this
would
even
come
before
this
council
that
that
you
would
need
a
consulting
firm
to
come
in
here
and
help
you
I'm
giving
you
more
credit
than
the
councilman's.
Given
you.
N
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
last
year
and
I'm
one
of
the
people
that
have
sat
through
many
budget
sessions
in
this
chamber,
probably
more
than
anybody
in
this
room,
and
I
think
you
and
the
administration
did
a
great
job
in
tough
economic
times,
and
I
don't
know
how
the
administration
stands
on
this
resolution.
I'd
be
quite
surprised
to
learn
that
mayor
fung
would
want
a
consulting
firm
coming
in
here,
telling
him
how
to
negotiate.
Thank
you.
O
Valerie
shuley
27
farm
street
cranston,
rhode
island.
I
had
no
intention
of
speaking
tonight
but
then,
as
I
witnessed
somewhere
along
this
meeting,
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
was
in
city
council
chambers
or
never
never
land,
I
had
to
check
and
see
and
wonderful
things
go
on
at
the
committee
meetings.
I
fully
believe
you
need
the
committee
meetings,
but
it
is
not
the
full
council.
It
is
not
where
the
vote
should
be
taken.
O
That
needs
to
go
before
the
full
council
on
every
committee
is
not
every
person
that
represents
every
ward
and
we
elected
a
full
council
and
we've
done
that
for
a
reason
and
when
you've
been
here
as
long
as
I
have
I've
been
here
sitting
in
that
seat
back
there
longer
than
some
of
you
have
been
on
the
council.
Most
of
you
have
been
on
the
council
now
and
I've
seen
some
strange
things
happen
between
the
committee
meeting
and
the
council
meeting
I've
seen
decisions
turn
on
a
dime.
I've
seen
them
go
either
way.
O
I've
seen
one
person
show
up
at
the
committee
meeting
and
go
out
to
the
people
and
say:
do
you
know
what's
happening?
Come
to
the
council
meeting
with
me,
that's
government
at
work
and
I'm
still
struggling
to
figure
out
how
the
state
house
is
an
example
of
any
way
shape
or
form
that
we
should
follow
of
good
government.
O
When
I
came
here,
I
was
told
about
the
state
house,
the
good
old
boys
and
all
of
that,
and
I
believe
the
good
old
boys
came
from
the
committees
where
they
think
everything
should
happen
before
it
gets
to
the
floor,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
we
want
to
set
the
example
not
go
by
what
is
not
as
questionable
as
good
government.
Thank
you.
E
D
Yes,
creation
public
library,
board
of
trustees,
rosemary
de
silva,
who
would
be
completing
the
unexpired
term.
Frank,
a
martinaro
and
just
fred
miller-
is
on
here
just
as
information,
because
that
was
previously
approved
by
the
council.
There's
no
action
needed
on
mr
miller,
so
we
would
be
approving
emotional.
E
E
Q
D
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I
D
Just
just
to
clarify
just
deputy
wall
had
been
on
last
year
for
a
continuance
to
to
stay
on
the
ranks
because
he
had
reached
the
retirement
age
and
he
had
asked
to
stay
on
the
ranks
that
that
occasionally
happens.
You
may
see
someone
on
the
year
before,
because
they're
asking
to
continue
to
stay
in
the
ranks
for
another
year.
L
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D
And
the
landfill
odor
issue
an
administrative
update,
I
did
hear
from
lopez
and
there
has
been
no
new
update
since
the
the
update
and,
I
believe
all
the
council
people
have
received
the
communication
via
email
regarding
the
odors
and
the
we've
been
advised
by
the
health
department
that
there
are
no
inherent
health
risks,
physical
health
risks.
They
did
allude
to
some
mental
health
risks
from
smelling
that
stuff,
but
there's
been
no
update
since
then.
Already
a
reappointment.
B
B
Q
Q
By
this
time
tomorrow
afternoon,
they'll
be
in
des
moines
iowa.
So
it
would
be
an
exercise
in
futility
and
they
felt
maybe
a
little
bit
in
neighborhood.
Policing
may
be
more
in
order.
As
far
as
trying
to
address
these
issues,
they
did
set
up
a
meeting
with
the
manager
of
walmart
and
also
the
developer,
and
I
don't
have
that
exact
date.
But
it
was
a
about
two
weeks
ago
that
they
did
meet.
Unfortunately,
the
developer
did
not
participate
in
that
meeting.
Q
We
don't
know
why
yet
and
the
manager
of
the
walmart
firm
was
very
cooperative
and
he
also
wanted
to
put
a
stop
to
the
other
things
that
we
were
talking
about,
including
the
overnight
parking
by
tractor
trailers
as
well
as
campers.
Unfortunately,
one
of
the
things
that
the
police
department
did
notice
and
also
the
walmart
manager
pointed
out
that
those
vehicles
were
not
parked
in
the
area
where
walmart
is,
they
were
parked
in
the
area
where
the
empty
property
or
the
empty
business
is
located
and
walmart
really
has
no
control
over
that
parking
lot
itself.
Q
So
it
really
does
sound
much
more
like
it's
a
property
management
or
a
property
owner
issue
than
it
does
walmart
itself
and
one
of
the
things
the
police
department
was
wanting
to
talk
to
not
only
walmart,
but
also
the
developer
on
was
getting
some
more
signage
up
on
the
property,
so
that
people
knew
when
they
pulled
in
that
overnight.
Parking
was
not
not
to
be
tolerated.
Q
Q
Building
inspection
did
reach
out
to
the
developer
and
he
agreed
to
get
out
there
and
clean
up
the
trash
that
was
on
the
perimeter
property
that
was
blowing
across
getting
caught
in
the
buffer
areas,
whether
or
not
that
was
done
before
the
snow
fell.
I
don't
know
as
soon
as
the
snow
melts
we'll
take
another
look
and
see
if
they
did
accomplish
that.
Yet.
B
B
Q
There's
there's
two
things
on
that
issue,
one
which
was
suggested
by
council
president
last
time
that
last
time
we
spoke
to
this.
That
did
make
some
sense
on
the
surface,
so
we
did
look
into
it
and
he
suggested.
Perhaps
it
may
be
loading
dock
lighting
or
something
of
that
nature.
That
is
not
the
parking
lot
area
which
I
was
assuming
from
the
get-go
that
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors
were
associated
with.
Q
We
didn't
find
anything
on
the
parking
dock
area
that
may
be
contributing
to
what
the
neighbors
are
concerned
about,
and
we
stated
here
before
that
the
lamping
in
the
parking
lot
area
themselves
met
all
the
criteria
that
was
put
down
by
the
plan
commission.
So
therefore,
again,
we're
pretty
well
steinberg
as
far
as
what
we
can
and
can't
do,.
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Mr
cordy,
just
before
you
leave
the
podium
there,
I'm
not
aware
that
walmart
has
designated
parking
spaces
there.
I've
never
been
in
that
parking
lot
and
I
don't
go
to
walmart
a
lot.
But
I've
been
there
a
lot
lately.
Monitoring
the
situation
and
I've
never
seen
the
parking
lot
dedicated
saying
that
this
is
a
walmart
parking
space,
and
this
one
is
not
it's
the
whole
complex
they've
expanded
their
business.
D
I
don't
know
how
many
square
feet
that
we
approved,
and
my
assumption
is
that
the
parking
lots
the
parking
lot,
it's
the
parking
lot,
where
the
walmart
is
among
other
businesses,
so
the
manager's
full
of
crap
when
he
says
that
that's
not
his
parking
lot,
it
is.
It
is
their
parking
lot
that
they
pay
for
whatever
their
leasehold
is
on
the
on
the
building,
so
that
I
don't
buy
at
all
it's
their
parking
lot.
So
they
got
to
do
something
about
it.
That
he's
also
the
same
manager.
D
D
Q
First,
I'd
like
to
address
your
statement
in
regards
to
allocated
parking.
I
never
suggested
that
there
was
any
walmart
allocated
parking.
What
I
was
suggesting
is
that
the
vehicles
that
were
parked
there
they're
the
subject
of
this
conversation,
weren't
parked
in
front
of
walmart.
They
were
parked
in
front
of
the
empty
building,
that
is
on
the
property
and
the
same
property.
Q
Secondly,
as
far
as
who
actually
owns
and
or
controls
that
parking
lot,
I
don't
know
I
can
suspect,
like
any
of
us-
can
that
it's
a
triple
net
lease
and
the
because
the
parking
lot
is
shared
by
other
businesses,
even
though
the
businesses
are
empty,
it's
a
communal
parking
lot.
So
therefore,
I
would
suggest
that
walmart
has
very
little
control
over
that
lot
now.
D
Q
B
Yes,
ma'am
make
a
request.
Council
president,
I'm
guessing
this
is
going
to
go
before
ordinance.
Can
we
have?
Can
we
get
the
property
owner
and
walmart
at
the
meeting
my
face,
I
will
I
will
request
at
the
property
I
want
to
be
at
the
committee
meeting
or
we
can
go
show
course.
At
the
same
time,
I'd
rather
go
to
ordinance
because
there's
an
ordinance,
but
I
request
that
wall
might
be
there
too.
I
don't
know
if
we
can.
B
D
I
yeah
I
I
agree
and
it's
getting
late.
I
don't
want
to
argue
the
point,
mr
cordy,
but
private
property
for
walmart
private
property
for
the
developer,
private
property
for
the
property
owner.
It's
no
different
than
my
private
property.
If
I,
if
I
had
five
or
six
campus
park
on
my
front
lawn,
you
would
definitely
do
something
about
it,
so
I
don't
take
that
argument
about
it
being
private
property.
D
B
I
I
Q
The
natick
avenue
bridge
is
only
lacking
at
this
point,
a
pedestrian
railing.
We
can't
open
the
bridge
without
the
pedestrian
railing
and
the
other
thing
that's
missing
and
again
this
is
weather
related
is
the
the
painting
of
the
road
the
pavement's
done.
Pavement's
done,
pavement's
done,
it's
got
a
top
deck
on
it
and
everything
everything's
done,
except
for
the
pedestrian
railing
and
the
painting
of
the
pavement
just
exactly
how
long
it's
going
to
take
for
the
pedestrian
reeling.
Q
G
I
think
the
council
members
received
a
letter
from
that
was
sent
to
the
mayor
from
the
firefighters
union
saying
that
they
had
offered
to
sit
down
and
discuss
the
private,
cranston,
firefighters,
pension
fund
and
hadn't
heard
back
from
the
mayor.
I
just
wondered
if
there
was
any
comment
you
could
make
on
this.
R
R
I
think
he
was
waiting.
You
know
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
union
and
that's
my
that's
my
opinion.
I
don't
know
for
sure,
because
I
haven't
discussed
it.
As
I
said
with
the
mayor,
but
we
you
know
he
we
are
being
proactive,
we're
hoping
that
the
state
gives
us
the
ability
and
tools
to
to
do
things
on
a
local
level,
similar
to
what
they've
done
on
a
state
level.
F
F
We
have
a
joint
poll
location
request
from
national
grid
and
verizon
for
a
location
on
old
scituate
avenue,
and
we
have
the
following
new
claims
to
be
referred
to.
The
claims
committee
for
hearing
on
february
6th,
janet
gamba
property
damage
claimed
to
a
motor
vehicle
for
an
alleged
incident
on
january
6th.
F
F
For
that
purpose,
it's
to
be
referred
to
the
finance
committee
for
hearing
on
february
16th
resolution
for
loan
order
authorizing
the
issuance
of
4
million
335,
000
bonds
of
the
city
to
finance
the
acquisition,
construction
and
rehabilitation
of
fire
stations
and
facilities
and
the
purchase
of
equipment
for
the
fire
department
authorizing
the
city
to
apply
for
federal
and
state
advances
for
that
purpose.
Authorizing
the
issue
of
4
million
335
000
temporary
notes
for
that
purpose
and
authorizing
advances
from
the
general
treasury.
F
Resolution
for
a
low
note
or
authorizing
the
issuance
of
issuance
of
six
million
dollars
in
bonds
of
the
city
to
finance
the
repair,
construction
and
rehabilitate
rehabilitation
of
drainage
improvements
and
the
remediation
and
mitigation
of
drainage
and
flooding
problems
throughout
the
city
of
cranston
authorizing
the
city
to
apply
for
federal
and
state
advances
for
that
purpose.
In
authorizing
the
issue
of
six
million
dollars,
temporary
notes
for
that
purpose
and
authorizing
advances
from
the
general
treasury
for
that
purpose,.