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From YouTube: January 23, 2012, City Council Meeting Part One of Two
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January 23, 2012, City Council Meeting Part One of Two
A
A
B
C
D
A
A
Local
union
271
is
also
proud
of
the
education
and
training
legacy.
It
has
forced
for
future
generations
who
call
themselves
laborers,
whereas
the
members
of
local
union
271
past
and
present
take
pride
in
the
fact
that
their
sweat,
labor
and
skill
built
many
highways
extraordinary
buildings,
tunnels,
bridges
and
monumental
structures
in
this
great
state
in
the
city
of
cranston,
local
271's.
Amazing
history
is
a
testament
to
the
progress
and
achievement
of
all
who
labor
they
have
erected
more
than
monuments.
A
A
A
G
G
A
A
H
Good
evening,
council
members,
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
school
custodians,
utilizing
custodians
pickup
truck
for
trash
collections
at
playgrounds.
I
want
to
preference
what
I'm
about
to
say.
I
believe
this
was
brought
forward
by
councilman
stykos,
who
has
always
been
a
good
friend
of
parks
and
recreation
and
has
been
a
long
time.
Member
of
the
advisory
board-
and
I
know
his
thinking
on
this-
was
for
the
benefit
of
parks
and
recreation.
H
This
is
about
bain,
middle
school
garden,
city,
school
and
parkview
middle
school
of
the
custodians
collecting
the
trash,
the
playgrounds
at
those
areas
and
again
I
know
councilman
stykos
had
all
good
intentions
but
of
the
12
schools
that
the
school
department
custodians
pick
up
our
trash.
All
that's
at
those
schools
is
a
playground.
H
H
When
you
walk
out
of
garden
city
school,
you
have
to
walk
across
a
baseball
field
to
get
to
the
playground
which
there
are
two
trash
barrels
at
that
baseball
field
that
we
have
to
pick
up
anyway,
at
bayne
middle
school.
When
the
custodian
steps
out
of
that
school,
it's
at
least
150
yards
to
the
playground
to
pick
up
one
barrel
where
we
have
to
come
during
the
course
of
every
day
to
empty
seven
other
trash
barrels
around
the
main
track
and
pop
view.
H
H
A
I
Good
evening,
council,
president
council
members,
my
name
is
timothy,
dodd,
215,
broadway
providence.
On
the
item
that
mr
shakarshi
brought
up,
I
represent
a
bunch
of
neighbors
who
will
be
objecting
to
any
continuance
to
any
date.
Certain
I
just
want
to
preserve
my
right
to
address
the
council
when
this
item
comes
up
on
the
agenda,
there's
certain
legal
arguments
which
we'll
probably
be
making-
perhaps
myself-
perhaps
mr
shakarshi
and
perhaps
your
own
solicitor.
I
I
When
this
matter
was
before
the
ordinance
committee,
the
petition
for
zone
change
was
defeated
on
a
five-nothing
vote,
typically
under
rule
25
of
the
cranston
city
council
rules.
A
negative
vote
would
be
reported
to
the
full
council
and
no
further
action
would
be
taken
unless
five
members
of
the
entire
council
petition
for
a
further
hearing.
I
I
I
I
So
when
a
matter
is
heard
before
the
ordinance
committee
is
that
a
hearing
before
the
council,
you
have
designated
a
subset
of
yourselves
to
hear
certain
matters
so
that
you
don't
have
to
hear
everything
on
mass.
With
all
nine
of
you
present,
I
believe,
and
there's
really
no
case
law
to
direct
here-
that
that
subcommittee
is
a
hearing
before
the
council.
I
I
That
the
notice
that
went
out
through
the
advertisement
in
the
cranston
herald,
as
well
as
the
notice
to
the
abundant
property
owners,
set
forth
the
hearing
that
was
had
on
january
3rd.
The
hearing
that
was
had
on
the
12th
and
the
hearing
that's
scheduled
tonight.
Nowhere
in
the
notice
is
there
any
reference
to
45-24-51.
I
The
question
is:
is
that
ordinance
committee
in
the
quorum
that
was
present
sufficient
to
satisfy
the
general
law?
I
suggest
that
it
was.
You
had
five
voting
members.
Additionally,
council
president
lupino
was
present
asked
some
questions
didn't
participate
in
the
vote,
but
was
present
councilman
santa
maria
was
present.
Didn't
vote
didn't
participate?
A
F
J
We've
had
major
accidents.
There,
we've
had
one
fatality,
there's,
no
reason
why
it
should
be
delayed.
We
have
put
out
three
thousand
dollars
of
our
money,
the
city's
money
to
do
our
end
of
reconfiguring
walnut
grove
and
atwood,
making
it
come
into
a
v
to
make
it
more
applicable
or
more
amenable.
I
should
say
to
the
the
new
traffic
light,
so
this
resolution
basically
says
keep
your
word
and
make
the
starting
date
in
spring
of
2012.
J
A
J
D
F
K
H
H
H
A
L
A
H
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
just
point
out
to
the
to
the
council
as
well
as
mr
libertori,
with
resolutions,
I
mean
they're
non-binding,
and
this
is
just
something
that
a
councilman
put
together,
councilman
steiko's
with
good
initiative
like
you
mentioned,
and
you
know
per
our-
I
think
it's
on
our
in
our
ordinance
or
charter.
The
administration
is
supposed
to
within
the
month,
get
back
to
us
a
report
regarding
the
visibility
of
of
implementing
the
resolution
that
that
passes.
D
If
it
passes
so
I
mean
I
mean
we
could
vote
the
resolution
down.
If
I
mean
I'm
hearing,
councilman
steichos
wanted
to
make
an
amendment
to
it,
but
I
know
that
part
of
the
process
here
is
even
on
these
resolutions.
It's
not
an
ordinance,
it's
not
something
that
has
to
be
done.
The
administration
has
to
get
back
to
us
regarding
the
phys
visibilities
of
the
resolutions
as
they
pass
when
it
comes
to
operations
of
the
city,
so
I
just
want
to
just
bring
that
out
there.
D
H
I
don't
have
an
issue
if
you
pass
the
resolution,
as
it
is
right
now,
because
being
that
we
go
there
every
day
if
the
school
department
or
the
custodians
fail
to
do
their
job.
Under
this
resolution,
we're
going
to
be
picking
up
the
trash
anyway
right
so
nobody's
going
to
be
screaming
and
yelling
the
trash
is
overflowing.
F
F
A
J
E
C
F
D
A
F
C
E
C
F
E
J
A
N
F
I
I
did
receive
the
information,
thank
you
and
I
was.
I
also
made
a
mistake
at
the
last
council
meeting
where
I
said
that
the
the
report
which
mr
davona
prepared
had
been
kind
of
dropped
in
our
laps,
and
I
had
received
that
also
by
email
prior
to
the
meeting.
I
hadn't
obviously
read
it,
but
I
was
in
error,
so
I
I
do
apologize
for
that.
I
I
won't
be
voting
for
the
resolution,
although
I
have
the
information
just
because
I
don't.
A
F
E
Thank
you,
council
president,
as
the
sponsor
of
this
legislation.
I
I
have.
I
disagree
obviously
with
my
colleague
councilman
steichos
on
this.
This
is
a
jobs
creation
bill.
That's
what
it
is.
It
costs
nothing
to
the
city
of
cranston.
To
do
this.
It
provides
tax
incentives
for
companies
to
hire
people
and
expand
staff
in
distressed
areas.
It
targets
distressed
areas
of
the
city
and
other
parts
of
the
state
as
well,
and
I
I
also
disagree
that
small
businesses
such
as
possibly
coastal
medical,
is
one
of
them
on
the
list.
E
I
would
venture
to
say
that
not
every
doctor's
office
law
office
account
accountant's
office
are
all
doing
extremely
well
in
this
economy.
I
think
everyone's
been
hit
hard.
Anyone
in
small
business
knows
how
difficult
it's
been.
They've
all
suffered
decreases
in
income,
they've
laid
off
people.
Obviously
our
unemployment
rate
is
so
high,
so
I
think
that
they
do
need
an
incentive
because
they
have
to
rehire
or
retrain
people.
E
E
I
don't
think
we
should
discriminate
against
a
a
larger
or
a
medium-sized
company,
because
they're
hiring
in
our
city
and
especially
in
areas
that
are
in
distress
such
as
the
there's
parts
of
wellington
avenue,
which
are
you
know
in
need
of
new
business,
so
to
to
say
that
this
is
not.
That
does
not
provide
a
good
outlet
for
job
creation.
I
think
is
wrong
and
the
state
is
gonna
is
going
to
spend
this
money
and
create
tax
incentives,
and
I
don't
think
tax
incentives
are
a
bad
thing.
E
I
I
think
that
to
to
suggest
that
the
businesses
are
going
to
hire
anyway,
with
our
unemployment
rate
being
what
it
is
today,
I
don't
think
that's
the
case.
The
edc,
you
know,
has
done
a
great
amount
of
work
with
companies
such
as
chapel
view
and
garden
and
garden
city,
for
example,
which
announced
expansion
plans
in
a
bad
economy.
J
Thank
you,
council
president,
through
the
cheer
to
to
the
president
to
the
sponsor.
I
may
ask
my
question
say
that
again,
may
I
ask
the
sponsor
question
sure,
mike
who's
gonna
be
the
authority
on
making
sure
that
these
people
hire
people.
As
you
know,
we
in
the
city,
we
have
an
tax
incentive
program
and
I
think
marcia,
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
correct
is
in
charge
of
making
sure
that
I
think
they
have
to
double
their
employment
within
a
certain
period
of
time
to
keep
the
tax
incentive.
J
E
Well,
I
think
that
the
state
obviously
has
control,
because
it's
their
money
and
their
bill
we're
just
taking
advantage
of
the
program
they
make
available
to
the
city.
I
think
mr
presti
could
answer.
Maybe
answer
your
question:
how
much
input
they
have
and
control
they
have,
but
I
I
you
know
we
have
to
comply
with
whatever
the
state
regs
require.
If
you'd,
like
I'm
sure
that
mr
deboney,
I
missed
well.
J
E
A
I'll
ask
mr
devon,
allow
mr
divoni
to
answer
that
question
just
so
you
understand,
mr
morning
what
mr
santamarie
is
getting
at
is:
who
does
the
monitoring
we
have?
You
mentioned
the
tax
incentive
program.
You
have
to
monitor
how
many
jobs
are
created
to
get
a
tax
incentive.
In
this
case,
this
is
a
state
program,
who's
monitoring,
the
the
number
of
jobs
and
and
how
the
money
is
being
spent.
This.
L
A
L
A
L
O
Thank
you,
council
president.
I
just
have
to
say
that
I
disagree
immensely
with
my
colleague
from
ward
one.
I
think
we
are
in
difficult
severe
economic
times
and
I
think
it's
up
to
government
and
us
we,
as
as
council
persons
to
do
everything
possible
to
retain
business
here
in
cranston
and
create
business
here
in
cranston
and
in
difficult
times.
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
city
of
cranston
needs
during
the
great
depression.
O
D
Well,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
report
as
well.
Councilman
steichels
did
did
ask
for
a
report
regarding
the
enterprise
zone
and
the
tax
credits
regarding
hiring,
and
I
I
am
going
to
be
supporting
this.
I
mean
it's
something
that
has
to
be
done
in
order
to
to
be
able
to
invite
businesses
or
have
businesses
look
at
these
depressed
areas
in
order
to
decide
to
move
there,
but
I
do
have
a
question
to
the
economic
development
department.
D
You
know,
because
going
through
this
report
doesn't
cost
us
anything,
but
out
of
all
these
pages
from
2008
to
2011,
there's
only
a
handful
of
cranston
businesses
that
are
that
are
actually
being
that
are
actually
benefiting
from
being
in
an
enterprise
zone.
So
my
question
would
be
if
it
doesn't
cost
us
anything.
I
mean
I
know
we
have
depressed
areas
in
the
city
of
cranston
and
my
colleague
just
mentioned
wellington,
maybe
grants
whatever
areas
that
are
designated
in
cranston,
but
there's
only
a
handful
out
of
out
of
2008
to
2011..
D
L
That's
up
to
the
company
to
choose
if
they
apply
for
the
program.
A
mailing
has
gone
out.
We
we've
met
with
most
of
the
companies
to
explain
what
the
program
is
and
then
it's
up
to
the
company
to
actually
put
an
application
in
through
our
office
and
then
to
the
state.
Just
because
you
sit
in
an
enterprise
zone
doesn't
mean
you're
automatically
in
the
program.
You
have
to
apply
to
the
program.
D
L
D
Well,
that
was
my
question.
I
am
going
to
support
it.
I
mean
anything
that
that
can
help
bring
entice
companies
here.
You
know
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
note,
because
I
mean
we're
we're
proving
this
and
we
want
to
bring
businesses
and
colleagues
saying
create
more
jobs
than
this,
but
I
mean
only
six
companies.
Out
of
this
whole
list
are
taking
advantage
of
it
in
cranston
I
mean
I
see
providence,
I
see
all
other
cities
and
towns
and
cranston
only
has
like
six.
A
Any
other
discussion,
my
only
other
comment,
would
be
that
the
the
monitoring
on
one
side
might
signify
a
scrutiny
or
a
lot
of
red
tape
on
the
other
side
that
may
that
the
monitoring
may
be
the
deciding
factors
for
some
of
these
businesses.
If
they
have
staff
that
can
submit
the
paperwork
go
through
the
scrutiny,
then
they'd
be
more
apt
to
have
a
second
thought
about
going
through
the
program
there
being
no
more
discussion
clerk.
Please
take
control.
M
O
C
Council
president,
we
have
one
final
resolution
resolution
authorizing
a
presentation
before
the
finance
committee
of
the
city
council
by
the
berkshire
group
and
other
similarly
situated
companies
to
assist
in
developing
cost-saving
strategies
for
the
2012-2013
budget
process.
It
was
amended
in
committee
and
they
recommended
approval.
E
And
bringing
it
to
the
full
council
and
well
all
I'm
seeking
to
do
here
is
have
this
company,
which
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
experience
around
the
country
in
reducing
costs
for
government
and
also
in
universities
and
different
types
of
organizations.
But
so
I
thought
that,
with
the
knowledge
that
they
have
of
many
cities
around
the
country-
including
you
know,
the
northeast,
the
east
and
also
even,
I
believe,
oakland
california,
even
some
cities
out
west.
E
I
think
the
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
in
our
strategy
in
dealing
with
the
budget
process.
They
may
open
our
eyes
to
some
ideas
that
we've
never
heard
about.
So
it's
strictly
a
fact-finding
mission,
I'm
just
looking
for
ways
to
help
us
because
we're
going
to
face
a
difficult
budget
season
very
soon,
and
I
I
think
that
these
people
could
help
and
any
other
companies,
similarly
situated.
O
Thank
you
council
president,
just
one
question
for
the
sponsor:
through
the
chair:
that's
okay,
yep
councilman
for
vecchio,
the
only
the
only
thing
that
really
initiates
a
spark
with
me
is
on
line
27,
where
it
says
at
no
cost
to
the
municipality,
and
I
just
like
you
to
elaborate
on
that.
Are
they
donating
their
time
or
how
is
how
can
that
be
done?
Economics
101.
I
learned
there's
no
such
thing
as
a
free
lunch,
so
I
just
could
you
explain
sure.
E
No
course
to
the
community
council
president,
the
obviously
the
presentation
will
cost
us
nothing.
The
way
that
these
type
of
companies
are
compensated
is
if,
if
a
department
within
a
city
or
the
city
administration,
wish
to
hire
them,
they
get
paid
a
10
commission
on
any
savings
that
they
generate
only
on
savings
getting
it
paid
on
savings
they
generally,
they
get
a
commission
on
savings
only
so
it's
it's
strictly
incentive
based
type
of
compensation
and
they're
willing
to
donate
their
time,
even
just
to
make
a
presentation.
Well,
that's.
J
E
Well,
it's
actually
it's
a
good
place
because
they
have
a
tremendous
union
influence
and
they've
had
to
deal
with
contracts
that
we've
dealt
with.
So
actually
it's
pretty
good
and
their
their
connection
with
rhode
island
is
that
the
the
founder
is
a
brown
university
grad
he's
doing
business
with
brown
in
providence
college
right
now,
he's
been
saving
money
for
both
of
those
universities
here
in
rhode
island.
So
he
has
some
connections
here
and
to
follow
up
just
trying
to
keep
it
right.
J
E
C
E
D
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
questions
to
the
sponsor,
a
couple
of
things
that
that
concern
me.
You
mentioned
you
know
we
talk
about
government
finances
and
budgeting.
We've
been
I've
been
on
the
council
for
six
years
and
we've
looked
at
the
budget
and
we've
know
what
what
what's
involved
with
it
and
all
the
cost
savings
and
cuts
that
we've
had
to
make,
and
but
I
look
on
this,
this
berkshire
group
that
I
know
you
want
to
just
bring
in.
D
Maybe
they
can
bring
some
light
to
something
that
we
don't
know
already
regarding
our
budget,
but
they
don't
have
not
one
municipality
on
there,
they're
all
universities,
they
have
they
list
a
couple
universities.
I
don't
see,
not
one
municipality,
it's
all.
You
know
it's
brown
university,
howard,
university,
the
city
university,
new
york,
new
jersey,
transit,
rutgers
university,
then
companies
and
the
the
main
they're
they're
specializing
in
increasing
a
company's
productivity
and
bottom
line
by
creating
a
system
of
customized
purchasing
controls.
D
D
D
Auditors,
I
mean
there
are
so
many
people
that
look
at
this
budget
inside
and
out,
and
I
mean
we
can
pass
this
and
have
them
give
us
a
presentation,
but
ultimately,
they're
gonna
have
to
sit
down
with
the
mayor
and
and
the
mayor
has
to
produce
or
find
out.
If
these
I
mean,
I
I
don't
know
how
we
you
know
if
this
is
going
to
help
us
in
our
budget,
especially
in
our
upcoming
budget,
that
we
don't
know
we're
ready
as
far
as
budgeting
is
concerned,
but.
D
Gonna,
it's
a
resolution,
so
I'm
gonna
vote
for
it.
But
those
are
my
my
concerns
of
the
logistics
of
I
mean
the
mayor
is
the
one
that's
gonna,
be
putting
forth
a
budget
and
I'm
sure
the
mayor's
looking
at
cost
savings
and
ways
that
I'm
sure
he
has
the
last
couple
of
years
as
much
as
the
council
has,
and
you
know,
we've
done
everything
that
we
could
and
unless
and
again
they
don't
see
a
municipality
on
there
or
something
they
can,
but
it's
a
whole
different
ballgame
when
you're
talking
municipalities.
D
This
is
not
a
company.
If
it
was
like,
I
said
we
probably
wouldn't
need
to
probably
be
cutting
a
lot
of
jobs
and
doing
everything
else
that
we
have
to
do.
But
you
know
we
deal
with
bargaining
contracts
and
so
there's
a
lot
involved,
but
if
we
want
to
do
a
presentation
and
feel
that
it's
something
that
that
might
be
worth
it,
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
problem
listening
to
it.
But
I
think
this
is
more
of
a
you
know.
D
E
F
A
O
P
Is
this?
Is
it
arnold?
Okay,
you
know,
we've
reviewed
this
and
this
matter
must
come
to
before
the
full
council.
I
respectfully
disagree
with
mr
dodd's
opinion.
The
committee
cannot
act
in
place
of
the
council
under
state
law,
and
state
law
takes
precedence
over
council
rules.
I
did
provide
each
member
of
the
council
with
a
copy
of
a
legal
opinion.
I
researched
on
this
and
the
solicitor's
office
has
brought
mr,
is
it
marcelo
marcelo
tonight?
P
A
A
F
J
P
J
P
J
A
You
don't
need
the
lawyer
to
answer
the
question.
The
question
really
is
it
gives
the
answer
to
the
question
is
it
gives
the
public
another
opportunity
because
the
public
an
opportunity
to
be
heard
they
can't
may
not
always
be
able
to
make
a
council
meeting.
We
may
have
a
very
big
agenda
on
that
particular
case
and
it's
no
different.
A
D
P
I
think
generally
for
the
future,
if
it
is
an
application
from
someone,
as
in
the
case
in
in
this
particular
ordinance,
where
developers
proposing
something
they
are
entitled
to
a
vote
at
the
full
council.
Whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
to
also
have
a
committee
meeting
is
really
up
to
the
wisdom
of
the
council
for
whatever
reason,
but
ultimately
under
state
law.
The
committee,
no
matter
how
many
members
are
on
it,
cannot
take
the
place
of
the
full
council
in
order
to
comply
with
the
state
law
requirement
that
the
council
here
and
decide
it.
A
P
J
D
D
D
Then
the
minutes
need
to.
We
need
to
go
back
to
and
fix
the
minutes
of
that
meeting,
because
there
was
five,
that's
a
majority
of
the
council.
So
I
think
that
we
can
argue
the
fact
that
it
has
gone
before
a
majority
of
the
council
that
I've
already
said.
We
don't
want
that
that
zoning
change
to
take
place,
that's
going
to
affect
that
neighborhood,
and
it
was
pretty
loud
and
clear
that
was
five
members
of
the
city
council
and
two
of
them
were
there.
D
That's
one
thing:
the
other
thing
too,
that
I
don't
understand
is
we've
had
a
zoning
change
prior
to
this,
that
was
denied
an
ordinance
committee
and
now
all
of
it
and
all
of
a
sudden
that
one
never
went
to
the
full
council
it
got
reported
out
and
and
that
person,
and
that
and
that
applicant
it
just
the
motion,
never
went,
I
mean
it.
The
the
zoning
change
was
denied
and
now
all
of
a
sudden,
this
application
gets
to
come
before
the
full
council
for
a
vote
where
that
wasn't
done
in
the
past.
D
P
I
will
answer
that
because
it's
been
one
applicant,
I'm
aware
of
in
the
10
years.
I've
been
with
the
council's
had
that
circumstance
and
in
that
circumstance
he
never
asked
to
come
before
the
council,
so
his
petition
has
never
been
denied
by
the
council.
A
recommendation
of
denial
came
from
the
committee
and
you
can't
translate
a
committee
majority
into
a
council
majority.
It's
just
you're.
It's
not
permissible.
D
Kirschenbaum's
and
those
opinions
until
again,
you
know
what
constitutes
the
full
council,
because
I
mean
what's
the
sense
of
of,
or
I
should
say
a
majority
of
the
council
when
we
have
a
committee
meeting
having
experts
there
and
then
it
gets
denied.
And
now
it's
got
to
be
heard
again
in
front
of
in
front
of
two
more
one,
more
or
two
more
additional
members,
because
we
had
seven
there.
That
night.
P
D
Yeah,
I
I
mean
I,
I
think
that,
because
I'm
voting
against
continuing
this,
the
the
the
neighbors
spoke
against
it.
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
drive
through
going
in
there
and
I
fought
drive-throughs.
We
fought
the
other
one
on
pontiac
avenue
that
they
were
trying
to
put
in
there
traffic
nightmares
and
I'm
going
to
fight
I'm
not
going
to
have
a
continuance
so
that
the
applicant
can
prepare
two
weeks
from
now
and
then
at
a
regular
council
meeting
have
to
deal
with
with
experts
and
everything
else
again
when
it
was
already
denied
in
committee.
D
P
I
have
the
statute
if
you'd
like
me
to
read
it
for
you.
We're
a
proposal
for
adoption,
amendment
or
repeal
of
a
zoning
ordinance
or
zoning
map
is
made
by
the
city
and
town
planning
border
commission.
The
requirements
for
study
by
the
board
may
be
waived,
provided
that
a
proposal
by
the
planning
board
includes
its
findings
pursuant
to
45,
24
52
and
here's
the
key
language,
the
city
or
town
council
shall
hold
a
public
hearing
within
65
days
of
receipt
of
a
proposal
giving
proper
notice
that's
described
in
the
zoning
statute.
P
The
city
or
town
council
shall
render
a
decision
on
any
proposal
within
45
days
after
the
completion
of
the
public
hearing.
The
provisions
of
this
section
pertaining
to
deadlines
shall
not
be
construed
to
apply
to
any
extension
consented
to
by
the
applicant,
but
the
wording,
city
and
town
council
twice
appears
in
the
statute.
It
doesn't
talk
about
about
a
majority.
It
does
not
talk
about
a
committee.
P
P
P
I
believe
in
the
context
of
this
matter,
where
they've
come
in
and
asked
for
a
continuance,
so
they
could
present
their
full
evidentiary
hearing
before
the
city
council.
Denial
denies
them
that,
therefore
the
right
to
have
that
hearing,
I
think
they
can
come
back
and
reapply.
They
can
do
a
number
of
things,
but
I
don't
think
that
a
continuance
based
upon
you
know
the
logic
that
the
committee
already
heard
this
and
already
heard
experts
does
not
stand
in
the
face
of
state
law.
F
But
but
let
let's
say
we
deny
the
the
motion
now
is
for
continuance
and
that
fails
for
whatever
reason,
because
somebody
thinks
that
the
committee
vote
is
enough
or
because
we
don't
want
to
give
a
continuance
and
we
think
they
should
be
ready
to
present
their
case
tonight,
because
they've
known
all
along
this
is
when
it
would
come
up
so
the
the
continuant.
Let's
say
the
continuance
motion
fails
and
then
we
have.
P
No,
I
no
I'm
not
to
clarify
when
you
kind
of
split
your
question
down
like
that.
If
you
go
forward
and
you
give
them
a
hearing
tonight-
and
you
deny
the
motion
for
continuance-
you
can
go
forward
and
hold
a
hearing
tonight.
You
have
a
right
to
do
that.
The
question
is
whether
you
create
a
prejudice
and
that's
something
for
someone
other
than
me
or
the
city
council
to
determine
it'll,
be
a
report.
P
F
M
J
H
C
C
So
that's
what
I
suggested
they
continue.
It
then,
because
an
all-out
denial
basically
screws
the
people,
because
in
all
out
denial
they
can
go
to
court
and
win
and
then
whatever
restrictions
we
had
or
whatever
plan
that
site
plan
review
might
have
put
in
is
all
washed.
It
all
goes
away.
Superior
court
will
take
that
away
and
give
them
whatever
they
want.
I'd,
rather
have
the
public
vetted
out
with
the
developer
or
or
the
area
or
whatever
site,
plan
review
and
zoning
have
it
heard.
C
Have
it
heard
so
people
can
see
what's
going
there
and
have
an
opinion
there.
It
hasn't
even
been
to
that
point.
Yet.
So
if
we
go
through
a
denial
now
the
apple
can
go
right
to
court
tomorrow
morning.
I'm
sure
the
attorney
has
the
paperwork
ready
to
go
and
say
I
wasn't
fairly
represented
at
the
city
council
boom
and
they
automatically
get
what
they
want
with
no
restrictions.
E
E
So
I
know
this
is
a
politically
charged
issue
and
I
know
we
need
to
old.
The
residents
are
angry
about
the
situation,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
cautious
in
as
council
vice
president
pelletier
mentioned
we're
going
to
trample
on
someone's
rights
and
we
can't
trample
on
an
applicant's
rights
just
because
we
think
that
the
the
overwhelming
sentiment
is
against
the
the
issue
itself.
So
I
think
I
don't.
J
President
micah,
with
all
due
respect,
I
wholeheartedly
disagree
with
you.
The
the
most
important
part
of
this
whole
process
is
the
committee
meetings,
not
the
council
meetings.
The
committee
meetings
is
where
everything's
vetted
out.
Councilman
aquido
is
a
former
legislator
with
up
the
state
house,
the
committee
meetings
were
it.
That's
where
everything
came
about.
The
city
council
is
just
a
vote
on
what
the
committee's
vetted,
what
the
committee's
heard
it's
better
to
get
rid
of
the
council
meetings
and
keep
the
committee
meeting.
So
I
will
highly
disagree
with
you.
J
The
committee
meetings
are
much
more
important
than
what
we
do
here
tonight.
We've
already
done
our
work,
we've
already
done
our
homework.
We've
already
listened
to
the
people.
The
committee
meetings
are
important.
Don't
go
down
the
slope.
I
ask
all
my
colleagues.
The
committees
are
most
important
in
our
democratic
process.
O
O
O
The
applicant
gets
to
express
themselves
and
all
the
information
is
gathered
for
us
to
make
the
best
judging
we
can,
and
that
was
done
in
the
committee
and
five
members
of
this
council,
judged
that
the
applicant
should
be
denied.
That's
what
occurred
to
say
that
a
zone
change
must
come
to
the
full
council.
That's
the
interpretation
of
parliamentarian,
but
what
I
don't
like
is
what
this
current
council
is
doing
in
leadership.
O
It's
picking
and
choosing
what
zone
chains
get
to
come
to
the
full
council,
because
there
was
another
issue
that
was
denied
in
committee
and
never
came
to
the
full
council.
So
I
would
like
the
president
and
the
vice
president
to
get
together
and
let's
have
some
consistency,
because
this
is
how
we're
going
to
do
things.
That's
what
we
need
to
do
can't
pick
and
choose
the
issues
and
say
well.
O
O
O
We
had
many
many
constituents
come
out
that
evening
and
express
their
dissatisfication
with
the
applicant
with
the
plan
and
the
committee
voted
five
in
the
negative
republicans
and
democrats
all
voted
together
to
deny
it
and
now
we're
hearing
a
motion
to
continue.
Why
why
there's
going
to
be
some
some
underlying
or
subliminal
event
transpiring?
O
A
A
A
That's
number
one
number,
two,
the
there
is
another
issue
that
went
on
during
the
presentation
at
the
committee
level,
the
applicant
and
again,
we
represent
the
people
that
are
here
that
are
cheering
and
we
also
represent
the
property
owner
in
that
area.
The
applicant
was
not
allowed
to
give
a
full
presentation,
he
was.
He
was
only
given
four
minutes
to
present.
A
F
I
have
another
question
for
a
solicitor.
We
heard
what
I
would
regard
as
a
rather
radical
scenario
presented
by
councilman
pelletier,
that
if
the
council
were
to
vote
down
a
vote
against
this
continuance,
that
the
superior
court
could
step
into
the
process
and
negate
the
site
plan
review
and
all
other
city
procedures
that
building
projects
have
to
go
through.
I
just
wonder
if
there's
any
validity
to
that
claim.
K
If,
if
something
is
denied
and
goes
up
to
superior
court,
and
then
the
the
superior
court
reverses
either
the
zoning
board
or
council
decision
when
it
comes
back
down,
it
does
not
have
and
will
not
have
many
of
those.
What
I
would
call
minimizations
or-
or
you
know,
concessions
from
a
developer
that
aren't
legally
necessary
but,
however,
do
occur
during
a
slight
plan,
review
process
or
council
process
or
zoning
process.
F
That's
not
my
question,
my
question:
isn't
the
question
that
you
answered
was:
if
there's
a
deal
available
now
and
it
goes
to
court,
are
we
guaranteed
to
at
least
have
that
deal
and
obviously
the
answer
to
that
is
no.
But
the
question
that
statement
that
mr
pelletier
made
was
that
if
it
went
to
court,
the
court
could
decide
that
there
wouldn't
be
a
site
plan
review
process
and
I
want.
K
To
know
if
no
that
that
I
disagree
with
that,
I
believe,
in
other
words,
if
there
was
a
procedural
defect,
the
the
court
could
mandate
that
that
the
matter
be
heard
by
the
council.
I
believe
there's
on
this
matter.
There
has
already
been
some
type
of
site
plan
review,
but
the
court
would
mandate
the
process
come
back
and
the
court
would
mandate
the
process
occur
because
there
would
have
to
be
certain
site,
plan,
reviews
or
other
type
of
reviews,
as
a
matter
of
course.
So.
K
A
D
D
You
know
I
don't
I
don't
want
it
to
make.
It
seem
here
like
the
neighbors
neighbors
are
willing
to
have
a
restaurant
they're
willing
to
have
any
anything
there.
The
one
thing
is
that
the
applicant
is
going
for
a
c4
which
includes
a
drive-through.
You
can
have
that
either
a
c3
which
you
can
have
restaurant
without
drive-through
c4,
specifically
for
a
drive-through.
So
I
don't
know,
I
don't
want
it
to
think
that
the
neighbors
want
to
get
together.
It's
that
wendy's
wants
a
drive
through
that
restaurant
wants
a
drive-through.
D
We
know
what
a
drive-through
will
do
to
that
neighborhood.
So
it's
not
a
matter
of
the
applicants,
saying
well
yeah
we're
going
to
still
build
the
wendy's
without
a
drive-through.
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
happen.
So
the
thing
is
the
neighbors
want
that
space
to
be
taken.
It
could
be
a
restaurant.
There
could
be
a
lot
of
host
of
other
things.
It
can
be
it's
just
that
the
drive-through
will
be
detrimental.
C
Councilman
navarro,
I
agree
with
you
wholeheartedly
believe
me.
I've
always
been
a
stickler
for
protecting
the
residents
in
the
neighborhood
always
been
that
way,
and
I
do
want
to
protect
the
neighborhood,
but
I
would
rather
see
that
people
sit
down
with
a
developer.
Maybe
the
developer
can
come
up
with
a
plan
that
will
help
the
or
or
make
the
neighborhood
better.
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
drive-through
either.
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
trash
that's
going
to
get
generated.
C
That's
all
I'm
saying
I
just
want
to
see
some
sort
of
change
of
plan
that
the
residents
can
be
happy
with
and
the
developer
can
be
happy
with,
because
if
we
don't
that's
where
the
problem's
going
to
be
because
that's
where
they
can
go
to
court
and
say
okay
well
now
we
want
the
c4
and
they're
going
to
get
it
not
so
much
whatever
the
site,
player
review
and
that's
councilman
and
psychos.
I
I
kind
of
I
know
what
you're
trying
to
allude
to,
but
I
wasn't
meaning
wash,
is
the
all
of
site,
plain
review.
E
Announcement
for
vicio,
thank
you
constant
president.
I'll
be
brief.
I
just
want
to
remind
councilman
styco
stay
on
the
council.
We
had
a
somewhat
similar
situation
in
my
district
when
we
had
a
zone
change
issue
and
we
enacted
a
couple
of
restrictions
that
run
with
the
land
which
bind
the
applicant
forever.
Basically,
so
I
think
that's
partially
what
mr
marcello
was
alluding
to
that
something
like
that
that
was
negotiated
and
then
became
law.
A
D
A
A
I
want
to
remind
you
that
your
attorney
represented
domestic
bank
when
it
was
domestic
bank
in
their
application,
for
a
drive-through
and
and
for
their
parking
issues,
and
the
domestic
bank
has
a
drive
through,
and
it's
now
called
admiral's
bank
and
it's
moving
out
so
you're
going
to
get
a
drive
through
on
one
side
or
the
other.
So
I
think
it's
it's.
It
would
behoove
you
to
meet
with
them
and
have
a
dis.
A
A
We've
got
798
to
go
if
we
can
get
the
restrictions
that
you
would
like
to
see
with
an
approval.
You've
got
a
better
shot,
and
I
think
this
is
what
the
councilman
council
vice
president
was
alluding
to
then
for
the
applicant
to
go
to
the
courts
and
the
courts
only
hear
the
merits
on
the
zoning
alone.
A
A
I
I've
had
breakfast
there
at
four
o'clock
in
the
morning.
It
had
a
24-hour
license.
Maybe
they
were
open
illegally,
but
they
had
a
24-hour
license.
So
I'm
not
going
to
argue
with
you
on
that,
but
I
I
really
think
that
if
you,
if
you
were
given
the
opportunity
again
to
meet-
because
I
remember
several
instances
during
the
presentation
or
the
allegations
from
the
neighbors
saying
about
the
traffic
going
on
to
auburn
street,
but
the
proposal
or
the
outline
that
I
saw
shows
no
traffic
going
to
auburn
street
that
that
opening
is
blocked
off.
A
It
shows
it
I'm
only
judging
it
by
what's
before
us
what
I've
seen
on
the
on
the
on
the
proposals.
It
shows
all
traffic
entering
and
exiting
from
reservoir.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
misconception
already.
I
think
I
would
rather
have
my
say
and
talk
to
the
the
the
developer,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
the
continuance.
A
A
G
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
the
three
independent
solicitors:
it's
a
very
well
established
case
law.
I
don't
know
why
everyone's
so
afraid
of
of
hearing
it
a
second
time
I'm
entitled
and
my
client's
entitled
to
a
full
hearing
on
the
merits.
I
respectfully
again
ask
for
continues.
I
am
not
prepared
to
move
forward
and
I
do
not
have
my
traffic
expert
with
me.
My
planning
expert,
along
with
the
neighbor's
planning
expert
in
warren
and
my
client,
is
out
of
state.
D
P
O
A
F
G
No,
I
will
just
say
that
if
I'm
denied,
I
will
seek
redress
through
the
court
system,
and
I
will
ask
for
attorneys
fees,
because
I
believe
it's
improper
to
deny
me
and
my
client
the
right
for
a
full
hearing
on
the
merits.
There
is
clear
state
law
and
case
law
that
says
no
committee
can
take
action
that
binds
a
council.
Full
council
has
to
act
on
this.
G
But
I
will
you
know:
you're
a
free
acting
body.
You
guys
can
do
whatever
you
want,
but
I
have
the
right
and
my
client
has
the
right
to
to
go
to
superior
court,
and
I
will
tell
you
respectfully
that
we
will-
and
there
is
a
lot
of
I
listen
to
all
that
you
know
I
got
up.
I
did
the
councilman
keto
gave
me
four
minutes
and
I
listened
to
all
the
neighbors
testimony
75
to
85
of
it
was
false.
G
I
have
asked
attorney
dot
on
two
separate
occasions
and
by
the
way
he
I
gave
him
a
copy
of
the
site
plan
that
showed
this.
You
know
attorney
dodd,
has
a
copy
of
no
there's
no
entrance
on
the
side
street
or
oven.
I
asked
to
sit
down
and
meet
with
these
neighbors.
I
asked
to
address
their
concerns.
I
asked
I
I
could
work
this
out.
I
could
mitigate
75
85
percent
of
their
concerns
regarding
lighting
hours
of
operation,
no
noise.
I
could
work
on
all
of
these
issues.
I
can
reposition
the
drive
through.
G
G
I
was
never
given
an
opportunity
to
present
traffic
testimony
or
or
to
show
or
to
explain
the
all
the
other
drive-throughs
on
reservoir
avenue.
So
I
I
respect
the
council.
I
I
like
almost
all
of
you
because
I
know
almost
all
of
you
almost
was
the
word,
but
the
reality
is
you
for
some
reason.
When
I
say
you
collectively
say:
that's
a
majority.
G
I'm
on
the
oath
to
tell
the
truth,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
my
mother
taught
me
if
you
can't
say
something
nice
about
don't,
say
anything
so
I'll
decline
to
answer
that
question.
But
I
was
never
given
the
opportunity
and
we're
talking
about
a
wendy's
with
or
without
a
drive-through
with
mitigations.
Why
are
you
afraid
to
hear
it?
Why
are
you
afraid
to
all
of
you?
I
mean
this
respectfully,
I'm
talking
to
councilman
stegos,
but
I
mean
this
to
all
of
you.
Why
are
you
afraid
to
hear
the
case?
J
D
G
J
G
G
G
D
Thank
you,
yeah,
just
and
real
brief
attorney
sarcachi
at
the
end
of
that
meeting,
the
city
clerk,
as
well
as
our
our
council
lawyer,
said
that
on
the
state
law
it
requires
a
hearing
at
the
full
council.
That's
we
debated
and
that
so
you
were
well
aware
that
this
was
going
to
be
heard
at
the
full
council
and
we
even
let
the
neighbors,
because
we
weren't
aware
you
know
they
were
saying
about
state
law,
about
the
rights
of
the
applicant
and
all
this,
and
we
were
very.
D
So
the
applicant
though,
and
yourself
knew-
and
you
should
have
been
prepared
to
be
here
tonight
because
all
of
a
sudden
now
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
continuance
and
we're
putting
off
the
neighbors
again
to
whenever
dates
certain,
and
it
just
seems
like
something's
going
on
here
when
you
full
well
know-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
advise
your
client-
that
how
important
if
this
project
was
going
to
be
that
they
should
have
been
here
for
this
presentation
tonight.
If
it
was
going
to
happen.
G
May
I
respond,
mr
president,
mr
navarro,
with
all
due
respect,
I
take
umbrage
to
that
because
you
keep
saying
there's
something
sneaky
or
sinister
going
on
here.
I've
been
nothing
but
above
board
and
totally
transparent.
I
called
attorney
dodd
today
called
attorney
dodd.
Before
I
filed
the
application,
I've
been
very
upfront,
I've
been
very
transparent.
I've
explained
everything
there's
nothing
sneaky
going
on
here.
G
You
may
not
like
the
fact
that
I
have
to
come
back
and
these
neighbors
have
to
come
here,
and
I
I'm
sorry
for
that.
I'm
sorry
that
they
call
you
I'm
sorry
you're
the
councilman
for
the
area.
I
understand
all
that.
I
understand
politics,
I
get
it,
but
the
reality
is.
My
client
has
a
right.
Now
you
have
every
right
to
vote.
You
can
vote
to
deny
this
tonight
and
that's
certainly
your
prerogative,
but
I
have
my
client
has
rights
and
I
plan
to
exercise
them.
G
Please
don't
imply
that
I'm
doing
something
improper,
illegal
and
moral
or
wrong,
because
that's
not
who
I
am.
I
don't
live
my
life.
That
way
I
don't
practice
law
that
way.
We
may
disagree
on
this
issue
whether
you
know
the
holy
grail.
The
drive
through
is
going
to
destroy
the
neighborhood
or
not,
and
I
can
respect
your
position.
I
can
respect
their
position,
but
I
have
never
in
my
life
done
anything
sinister
underhanded
and
I
take
umbrage
with
that.
O
G
It
was
a
very
limited
question
presented
to
the
planning
board.
Mr
pimento
spoke
very
briefly.
He
submitted
a
report
prior
to
that.
The
question
before
the
planning
board
was
the
zoning
request
that
we
made
the
applicants
made
consistent
with
the
city
of
cranston
comprehensive
use
plan.
The
answer
came
down
unanimously,
yes,
and
that
was
the
only
thing
presented.
There
was
no
site
plan.
There
were
no
boards,
there
was
no
traffic
experts.
There
was
nothing
else.
O
And
it
came
to
my
knowledge
this
evening
that
you
said
on
the
evening
that
that
ordinance
was
heard
in
that.
That
was
a
certain
orders
committee
that
your
staff
was
here
and
they
were
not
encouraged
to
speak.
Is
that
your
position,
I'm
sorry
they
were
not
encouraged
to
speak?
Is
that
your
position?
I.
O
Just
through
the
chair,
please,
when
we
are
in
a
subcommittee
and
we
hear
a
a
resolution
or
statute
or
ordinance,
anyone
in
that
audience
can
sign
the
roster
and
speak
on
the
issue
for
four
minutes.
That's
their
prerogative
to
do
so.
You
know
I
can't
lead
people
by
the
hand
and
say
you
have
to
offer
anything
if
you
had
an
issue,
if
you
were
going
to
make
a
presentation,
the
responsibility
was
on
your
shoulders
to
get
your
staff
to
that
podium
and
make
their
presence.