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December 5, 2022
Safety Services & Licenses Committee
Finance Committee
Special City Council
B
C
A
That
I
believe
is
towards
the
end,
but
we
have
an
attorney
present
that
I
would
like
to
have
this
go
first
to
get
it
out
of
the
way
so
entertain
a
motion
to
take
the
docket
out
of
order
and
move
pre-game
Lounge
401
nightlife
LLC,
two
first
on
the
docket,
so
moved.
Second,
any
discussion
there
being
none!
Please
take
the
roll
cotswana.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
as
the
committee
is
well
aware,
we
had
two
executive
sessions
in
addition
to
other
hearings
on
this
matter.
It
dates
back
to
March
of
this
year.
At
that
time
there
were
two
licenses
which
were
before
the
committee.
One
was
the
liquor
license
for
the
pregame
Lounge.
The
other
was
the
entertainment
license
for
the
pregame
Lounge.
The
liquor
license
was
revoked
by
this
committee.
E
E
So
I
was
in
touch
with
attorney
Heman,
who
was
present
tonight
and
if
he
wants
to
come
up
to
the
podium,
it's
up
to
you,
Nick
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
he
had
reached
out
to
me
about
having
a
full
hearing,
as
opposed
to
the
emergency
hearing,
that
we
did
have
back
in
March
and
I
believe
it
was
April
1st.
E
If
my
memory
serves
me
correctly,
when
the
committee
rendered
its
decisions,
that
was
on
an
emergency
basis
so
to
Accord
attorney
heyman's
clients
full
due
process,
he
and
I
reached
an
agreement
whereby,
rather
than
rehashing
the
entire
evidentiary
record,
all
over
again
producing
the
same
Witnesses,
the
same
reports,
the
same
travel
of
the
case.
E
What
we
did
was
we
stipulated
to-
and
we
admitted
as
an
exhibit
as
part
of
this
record,
everything
that
took
place
at
the
dbr
in
terms
of
testimony
in
terms
of
submissions
documents,
videos,
everything
and
we
were
each
given
an
opportunity
to
supplement
that
record
with
other
submissions
which
we
thought
would
support
our
respective
cases.
So
attorney
Heyman.
As
you
know,
he
submitted
a
memorandum.
I
submitted
additional
reports
which
I
think
were
part
of
the
record
in
any
event.
But
with
that
being
said,
I
believe
the
record
is
complete.
E
E
So
the
mo
the
strike
that
the
request
from
the
pregame
Lounge
is
that
the
license
B
not
renewed
because
it
was
revoked
back
in
April.
So
the
request
that
the
petitioners
are
making
is
that
the
committee
reinstate
the
entertainment
license.
E
F
Sure
it's
Nicholas
heeman
Daryl
Everett
for
the
pregame
Lounge
I,
understand,
there's
already
a
written
decision,
so
I
won't
take
much
of
your
time
on
this
issue.
I
would
just
say
that
if
it
was
reinstated,
I
think
I
proposed
some
conditions
in
my
memorandum,
but
we
would
be
more
than
willing
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
council
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
put
some
conditions
in
place
to
make
you
folks
comfortable
and
to
try
to
earn
back
the
trust
of
the
council.
F
The
DVR
did
overturn
the
sanction
found
not
that
the
discipline
was
in
excess.
It
just
found
that
there
was
no
violation
of
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
operation
of
the
establishment.
That
was
a
decision.
You
didn't
appeal
so
to
me
it
would
seem
inconsistent
to
not
have
appealed
that
decision
said
there
was
no
violation
and
then
impose
a
sanction
on
the
entertainment
license
which
enjoys
heightened
protection
because
it
involves
the
First
Amendment
of
the
Constitution.
F
Not
a
privilege,
like
you
have
here
with
a
liquor
license
so
I
hope
that
we
could
work
together
to
find
a
workable
solution,
but
I
understand
that
you're
going
to
do
what
you
think
is
best
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
tonight.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
the
papers
that
we
submitted
previously.
D
I'll
make
a
motion
to
not
reinstate
pregame
license
pre-game
lounges
entertainment
license.
H
I
Thank
you,
chairwoman
for
anyone
in
attendance
at
home,
or
here
as
as
my
colleagues
know,
I'm,
not
a
sitting
member
of
this
committee,
but
I
am
the
representative
on
the
city
council
for
that
part
of
the
of
the
city
and,
as
we
all
know,
we
have
an
an
oath
and
a
duty
to
uphold
the
the
public
safety,
well.
I
Welfare
and
health
of
our
constituents
and
and
the
general
residents
within
the
city,
and
this
issues
emanating
from
this
location
or
vicinity,
is
something
that
was
quite
frequent
in
in
the
past
whether
it
was
issues
of
noise,
vandalism,
public
drunkenness,
disorderly
conduct,
incidents
of
weapons
and
and
Firearms
covet
Health
violations.
I
In
my
experience
as
a
representative
from
this
area
and
with
the
history
of
this
establishment,
I
don't
feel
that
reinstating
the
the
entertainment
license
would
be
in
the
best
interests
of
of
our
city,
and
so
I
am
in
support
of
the
motion.
Although
I
cannot
vote
on
it
and
I
would
urge
my
colleagues
this
evening
to
vote
in
the
affirmative
to
deny
the
reinstatement
of
the
license.
A
E
Basically
the
the
applicant
or
the
license
holder
in
my
opinion
now
has
the
status
of
any
other
person
who
does
not
possess
a
license
and
if
they
wanted
a
year
from
now
a
year
and
a
half
from
now
to
obtain
an
entertainment
license,
they
would
have
to
reapply
at
which
time
I
imagine
that
the
sitting
committee
at
that
time
could
consider
it.
E
I
I
am
not
aware
that
there's
a
categorical
bar
from
them
doing
that.
Okay.
That
would
be
up
to
them
if
this
Committee,
in
its
discretion,
wanted
to
place
some
type
of
time
limitation
on
this
I
I,
don't
see
why
the
the
committee
couldn't
do
that.
So,
if
you
said
reapply
in
six
months
or
you
know,
we
won't
make
this
a
permanent,
revocation,
I
I'm,
just
throwing
this
out
there.
E
I
I,
think
it's
within
your
your
powers
and
your
discretion
to
do
something
like
that
other
than
that,
once
it's
revoked,
their
status
is
basically
like
that
of
a
non-licensed
hole
that
they
just
they
don't
have
a
license.
They
would
have
to
reapply.
A
E
E
Or
modified
or
another
motion
to
say,
motion
to
deny
with
a
six-month
or
or
actually
would
be.
You
could
almost
make
it
like
a
a
six
month
suspension
with
the
ability
to
reapply
after
whatever
six
months,
seven
months,
eight
months
a
year,
it's
really
up
to
it's
in
your
discretion
right
now.
The
motion
is
to
just
revoke
and
leave
it
at
that.
If
you
wanted
to
make
the
motion,
as
I
said,
conditional
I
guess
that
motion
would
need
to
be
withdrawn
and
then
a
new
motion
would
have
to
be
introduced.
A
Thank
you
attorney
yeah.
J
Madam
chair,
the
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
deny
reinstatement
if
the
council
wishes
to
deny
reinstatement
and
indicate
that
the
applicant
can
reapply
six
months
or
after
then,
this
committee
can
do
that.
I
would
also
think
it
wise
that,
in
in
the
motion
that
the
written
decision
that
Mr
badeki
has
been
directed
to
write
be
be
adopted
in
that
the
chair
of
this
committee
be
directed
to
a
fix
for
a
signature
to
that
decision,
that
that
would
be
essentially
the
three
prongs
of
the
motion
at
the
council.
J
So
I
would
recommend
Mr
President
that
you
withdraw
your
motion,
so
it
can
be
reformed
and
we
can
begin
again,
particularly
as
to
the
signature
on
the
decision.
So
if
the
council
decides
to
do
anything
with
the
six
months
that
would
have
to
be
included
in
the
motion,
but
I
think
the
motion
itself
should
include
a
statement
that
you
are
directed
to
sign
that
decision
on
behalf
of
this
committee
and
to
have
it
issued
forth
with.
A
Okay,
well,
I
would
just
before
we
change
the
motion
since
we're
under
discussion.
I
personally
wouldn't
have
an
issue
with
denying
the
reinstatement
of
this
license,
with
the
condition
of
you
can
apply
six
months
from
now,
and
if
you
know,
because
we're
they're
going
to
still
be
open,
they
still
have
a
Victorian
license.
They
still
have
a
liquor
license.
I
imagine
they're
still
going
to
be
music
played
there.
A
I
hope
there
wouldn't
be
entertainment
happening
when
they
don't
have
an
entertainment
license,
but
if
there
are
spot
checks-
and
they
don't-
you
know
they're
not
violating
that
then
and
there's
no
other
issues,
then
perhaps
it
would
be
something
we
could
at
least
revisit
because
I
don't
know
what
that
does
to
the
business
as
far
as
their
sales
go,
and
you
know
their
livelihood,
so
I
think
that
that
would
be
fair,
but
I
I
also
agree
that
there
has
been.
A
E
Chair
if
I
may
interrupt
I'm
sorry
for
the
interruption
and
just
Consulting
with
attorney
Angel,
there
is
nothing
to
prevent
them
from
reapplying
a
month
from
now
two
months,
three
months
from
now
so
I'm
not
sure
what
utility
framing
the
motion
and
adding
a
time
constraint
would
really
accomplish,
because
they
can
do
it
anyway
and
based
on
my
discussions
with
attorney
human
I,
think
it's
probably
moot
anyway,
because
I
do
think.
There's
probably
going
to
be
an
appeal
on
this
and
that
will
take
place
a
lot
sooner
than
four
five
six
months.
D
K
Sorry,
just
for
informational
purposes,
this
is
on
the
motion
to
okay.
C
E
No
Madam
chair
I
would
ask
that
a
motion
be
made
to
adopt
the
written
decision
and
have
your
signature
fixed
therein.
The
clerk
will
then
also
endorse
and
it
can
become
part
of
the
the
official
record.
D
A
D
B
A
So
first
we
have
committee
business,
that's
carried
over
and
it's
a
faux
Saigon
and
bar
is
here
for
a
status,
update
and
I
believe
attorney.
Verdakia
can
address
this.
E
Okay,
both
Saigon
I,
as
you
recall,
I,
indicated
that
they
had
had
an
issue.
I
want
to
say
maybe
a
year
to
18
months,
maybe
even
sooner
than
that,
with
regard
to
an
underage
Patron
being
served
alcohol.
There
was
a
serious
accident
after
that
they
were
disciplined.
They
were
brought
before
this
committee
and
there
were
various
conditions
imposed
upon
them
in
terms
of
letting
them
operate
again
and
I
as
an
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution.
E
I
brought
this
to
the
attention
of
the
committee
because
it
was
on
for
Renewal
last
meeting
and
I
did
contact
major
patellano
just
to
see
if
there
had
been
any
other
issues
whatsoever
down
there,
and
he
told
me
categorically
that
there
was
there
were
no
problems.
So
there's
no
reason
why
that
license
should
not
be
renewed
from
a
legal
standpoint.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
there's
no
vote
to
be
taken
on
that,
so
we're
all
set.
That
was
just
an
update.
So
now
we
have
a
victim
license.
This
is
for
La
Bandera
Bistro,
and
is
anyone
present
representing
thank
you?
If
you
could
come
forward
and
I
will
ask?
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
for
or
against
this
application
present
or
on
Zoom?
L
A
Now
open
for
discussion,
and
can
you
tell
us,
did
you
get
your
Department
of
Health
certificate.
L
Yes,
so
they
recently
just
went
in
earlier
this
morning,
so
I
do
have
the
temporary
license
and
we
should
be
getting
the
actual
certificate
in
mail.
A
A
K
L
D
Chair
I
just
asked:
if,
if
you
need
to
ask
the
public,
if
they
have
any
comment,
oh.
D
A
D
A
A
E
A
B
A
J
B
L
A
E
Unfortunately,
you
know
this
is
the
same
exact
issue.
We
were
faced
with
last
time.
I
was
under
the
impression
that
all
is
it.
Three
requirements
would
have
been
met
by
tonight
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
that.
That's
happened
and
for
all
the
reasons
attorney
Angel
gave
you
know
at
the
last
meeting,
you
can't
really
delegate
granting
Authority
and
if,
unfortunately,
if
she's
not
meeting
every
requirement,
I
legally
I
would
counsel
against
doing
that.
Unfortunately,.
L
Yes,
there
is
a
list
that
I
was
supposed
to
follow
and
in
that
list
I
even
went
this
morning
and
I
was
like.
Is
there
anything
else
that
I'm,
possibly
missing
at
all?
From
what
I
completed
from
the
list?
I
didn't
see
that
there
was
an
exact
tip
verification
that
I
was
supposed
to
bring
in
today,
because
that
would
have
been
done
prior,
but
from
what
I
was
looking
for
at
the
list.
There
wasn't
anything
that
was
into
that
per
se.
Situation
is.
A
It
possible
that,
because
there's
probably
two
separate
lists,
one
for
the
victim
that
you
needed:
the
health
certificate
and
another
for
the
liquor
license,
so
you
definitely
need
chip,
certifications
just
serve
liquor.
You
have
to
be
certified
to
serve
liquor.
Is
it
possible
that
two
separate
lists.
J
J
A
list
of
requirements
to
be
filed
with
a
license
is
no
substitute
for
knowledge
of,
what's
required
for
an
applicant
for
a
liquor
license
in
in
all
of
the
operational
legal
compliance
issues
that
may
touch
upon.
You
know
someone
operating
a
restaurant,
a
bar.
It
doesn't
really
matter
what
the
type
of
business
is.
The
you
know
the
municipality
is
is
not,
nor
is,
nor
is
the
Secretary
of
State's
office.
For
that
matter.
With
respect
to
you
know,
setting
up
a
business
entity,
it's
a
Bare
Bones
bare
minimum.
J
That
does
not
speak
to
every
operational
aspect
as
to
the
requirements
of
a
business.
You
know
we
we
require,
or
are
required,
with
respect
to
liquor
licenses
to
ensure
that
establishments
their
bartenders
are
properly
trained.
J
You
cannot
I
can
tell
you
from
experience
representing
entities
of
this
type
of
some
sure,
Mr
vedek.
You
could
as
well
that
you
cannot
obtain
Insurance.
You
cannot
obtain
what's
called
dram
shop
insurance,
which
is
Insurance
designed
to
protect
the
business
in
the
event
of
someone
who
is
inebriated
at
The,
Establishment
and
otherwise
leaves
and-
and
you
know,
causes
injury
to
property
or
person
out
at
following
that,
as
a
condition
of
obtaining
Graham
shop
insurance
from
an
insurer.
J
J
K
I
was
pretty
much
just
going
to
Echo.
Actually
what
pretty
much
just
say,
what
attorney
Angel?
Sorry
I
can't
get
my
brain
straight
forward
today
on
that.
But
one
thing
for
sure
is
that
I
I
really
do
apologize
for
you
on
on
I'm
being,
and
we
we're
being
very
mindful
of
your
time
and
I
and
and
your
patience
with
all
of
this,
and
we
also
have
a
process
that
we
have
to
follow.
K
K
If
there's
any
information
on
our
end
here
on
the
city
side,
because
as
a
councilwoman
I
get
a
little
frustrated
myself,
seeing
someone
trying
to
make
sure
that
they're
coming
into
our
city
and
they're
trying
to
have
a
business
in
our
in
our
city,
of
which
we
all
I'm
sure
will
welcome
our
welcoming
of
and
I'd
hate
to
keep
telling
you
to
come
back
but
I,
also,
as
a
council
person
that
can
only
speak
on
on.
My
own
behalf
have
to
also
respect
the
advice.
K
The
legal
advice
that
our
attorneys
are
also
providing
us
with
and
I
really
hope
that
you
that
even
it's
not
their
responsibility,
but
the
folks
that
you
are
obtained
the
business
from
the
former
owners
perhaps
could
have
given
you
Guidance
with
somebody
else,
but
it's
really
ultimately
I
really
wish
that
we
would
have.
K
We
could
have
some
sort
of
a
checklist
but
I,
but
to
what
the
attorney
Angel
also
said
on
this,
not
only
the
Secretary
of
State
but
the
general
department
of
health
or
in
general,
when
you
open
up
a
business,
there's
not
a
set
guideline
if
you're
opening
up
a
bar
these
other.
This
is
what
you
need
to
follow
if
you're
opening
up
this
type
of
restaurant,
this
is
what
you
have
to
do
if
you're
opening
up
a
print
shop.
K
This
is
what
you
have
to
do,
but
I
really
do
hope
that,
on
our
end
on
our
clerk
side,
if
possible,
if
we
can
be,
if,
if
at
all
possible,
have
as
much
information
as
possible
before
somebody
comes
over
because
I
really
and
I
don't
know
that's
on
our
end
and
I
I,
don't
know
so.
Please
educate
me
if
that's
the
case
and
what
we
can
do
to
make
sure
something
like
this
doesn't
happen
again.
What.
J
I
can
say
councilwoman
if
I
may
is
much
like
a
court
clerk
There
are
rules
and
regulations
in
place
that
prevent
clerks
from
Wading
into
the
unauthorized
practice
of
Law
and
really
that's
what
this
is.
J
I
could
be
candid
with
you,
I
know
exactly
what
the
problem
is
here
and
if
she
were
a
private
client
I
could
solve
this
rather
easily
and
make
things
easy.
I
can't
give
that
advice,
because
I'm
here,
obviously
representing
the
city
council.
What
I
would
say
to
your
point
in
trying
to
make
this
a
bit
easier?
We
can
grant
the
victualing
license
tonight.
There's
no
problem
with
that,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
package
deal.
K
Right,
it's
just
the
liquor
license
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
correct.
No
I,
know
I
yeah,
absolutely
I,
understand
that
part
of
which
I
do
support
and
I
and
I.
Just
you
know
it's
just
unfortunate
when
there's
a
person
trying
to
come
into
our
city
and
or
keep
going,
we
keep
having
the
person
coming
back
and
forth
right
and
there's
so
much.
Sometimes
what
people
assume
there's
red
tapes,
but
we
are
really
trying
to
also
help
you
and
but
I.
K
But
I
can't
vote
on
the
liquor
license
this
evening
only
to
make
sure
that
I'm
following
and
I
don't
want
to
set
a
president
for
anyone
else
that,
hopefully,
will
not
come
after
you,
but
could
right
and
say:
well,
we
did
it
for
one
and
up
for
the
other,
so
but
I
will
definitely
obviously
the
visualizing
there's
no
problem
with
it
on
on
my
end,
which
we
just
you
know,
took
a
vote
on.
That's
all
I
have
for
this
evening.
Thank
you
by
all
means:
I'm
not
pointing
fingers
at
the
clerk's
office.
I.
B
Just
for
information
when
we
is
when
Nick
give
out
applications
whether
it's
eviction
license
I'll
look
a
license
any
type
of
license
we
have.
We
do
have
a
checklist
that
we
give
with
the
application
and
in
a
different
checklist
for
each
one
so
and
this
applicant
applied
on
October
20th
for
the
like
a
license.
B
L
But
that
takes
a
long
time
to
get
it
because
I'm
not
opening
up
this
week
or
the
next
so
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
constantly.
A
L
A
The
liability
and
she
has
liability
insurance.
She
says
that
covers
everything
so
I
don't
can
you
get
that
without
a
tip
certification
to
sell
liquor,
I.
N
J
A
So
you
do
need
to
have
the
insurance,
so
if
you
do
have
it,
then
you
would
be
fine,
but
I
would
just
I'm
not
an
attorney
either,
but
I
would
double
check
that
you
have
the
proper
insurance
that
everything
is
covered,
get
your
chip,
certification
and
then
you'll
have
to
be
at
the
next
meeting.
You
can
still
serve
food
during
this
period
of
time
and
then,
as
soon
as
that
sold
on
the
liquor
license
is
done
and
you
don't
have
to
come
back
here.
C
Councilman
Ferry
I'd
like
to
ask
the
applicant
a
question:
yes,
are
you
sure
that
anyone
that's
going
to
be
working
for?
You
doesn't
have
tip
certification
already.
D
Should
we
make
sure
this
motion
be
to
continue
this
liquor
license.
K
You
know
I
I,
don't
normally
say
anything
along
these
lines,
but
is
there
any
possible
way
that
we
can
actually
qualify,
which
I
think
it
only
takes
two-thirds
of
us
to
actually
call
a
meeting
a
safety
service
in
our
prior
or
30
minutes
or
so
prior
to
the
city
council
meeting
that
we
have
scheduled
this
month,
foreign.
A
D
Yeah
I'm
fine
with
it
I,
don't
know
if
it
needs
to
be
an
hour.
If
that's
the
only
agenda
item
I
think
a
half
hour
would
be
fine.
6.
K
A
C
A
L
A
A
We
will
move
to
an
auto
repair
license.
This
is
for
easy,
glass
and
tow.
Is
there
anyone
present
right,
thank
you,
and
is
there
anyone
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
for
or
against
this
application,
either
on
Zoom
or
in
person?
No
public
comments.
Okay,
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
motion.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
and
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
business.
A
Okay,
is
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee
Council
papascus.
D
Thank
you,
chair
just
have
one
question
that
your
the
name
of
your
business
is
easy,
glass
and
toe.
Will
you
be
Towing
any
vehicles
to
that
location.
I
D
A
A
M
A
We're
open
for
discussion
I
would
ask
that
the
person
on
Zoom
be
unmuted.
A
O
Okay,
my
name
is
Arthur
Dooley
I
am
one
of
the
owners
of
Hometown
pumping
and
we
own
a
septic
business
that
Palm
septic
in
Massachusetts
and
Rhode
Island.
We
do
both
commercial
and
residential
work.
C
C
A
A
Okay,
is
there
anyone
here
for
desmondo's
restaurant
I,
don't
see
anyone
in
person?
Is
there
anyone
on
Zoom
no
public
comment?
Was
there
anyone
on
Zoom
that
looks
like
they
represent
the
the
restaurant
owners.
B
A
See
nobody
answer
okay,
so
we'll
just
have
to
con.
We'll
have
to
move
this
to
another
next
month,
Rose,
if
you
could
do
that
and
please
contact
them
next,
we
have
iconic
eats.
This
is
also
a
victim
license.
Is
there
anyone
present
hi,
thank
you,
and
is
there
any
public
comment
either
in
Chambers
or
on
Zoom?
D
N
A
Excellent,
what
kind
of
hours,
what
days
of
the
week
plans
we
open
planning.
D
Pablaska
yeah
I'll
just
say,
I'll,
be
voting
in
support
of
your
application.
D
That
restaurant
is
in
my
ward
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
somebody
is
going
to
be
going
into
the
VFW
Post
and
you
know
I
know
it's
been
a
couple
of
different
places
over
the
years
and
certainly
look
forward
to
seeing
you
there.
So
good
luck.
Thank.
M
B
B
M
A
E
Mad
I'm
sure
I
can
shed
some
light
on
this,
so
this
has
been
continued.
I
want
to
say
this
is
the
second
possibly
the
third
time
this
was
continued.
This
was
the
matter
of
the
business
establishment
that
was
selling
tobacco
to
underaged
customers.
E
There
were
a
series
of
violations
that
were
issued
by
the
Cranston
Police
Department
and
those
violations
were
sent
to
the
Municipal
Court
for
judgment
there
and,
as
of
last
month,
the
the
business
owner
entered
into
a
essentially
a
plea,
bargain
or
plea
agreement
whereby
they
admitted
to
I
want
to
say
two
three,
possibly
four
of
the
violations.
In
any
event,
they
were
fine,
The,
Fairly,
Hefty
amount,
I
want
to
say
it
was
roughly
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
In
addition
to
that,
the
Municipal
Court
Judge
imposed
a
30-day
suspension
of
their
tobacco
license.
E
That
suspension
took
effect
December
1st.
So
what
I
did
was
I
contacted,
Sergeant,
Sweeney
I,
don't
know
if
you
recall
her,
but
she
actually
testified
here
before
this
committee,
as
well
as
the
municipal
court.
She
was
the
officer
in
charge
of
compliance
checks
not
only
for
food
and
fuel,
but
for
various
establishments
throughout
the
city.
I
can
assure
you
that
she
is
on
this.
E
This
is
at
the
top
of
her
radar
screen
and
I
confirmed
this
with
her
on
Friday,
and
she
will
keep
me
posted
and
I
will
keep.
Obviously,
everybody
here
posted
if
there
are
any
additional
issues
with
the
food
and
fuel.
E
That
being
said,
I
think
I
indicated
last
time
that,
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
administration,
I
was
satisfied
with
the
disposition
that
took
place
at
the
municipal
court
I'm,
not
asking
for
any
additional
sanctions
on
any
of
their
other
licenses
or
additional
penalties
from
the
committee
I
think
they
received
a
fairly
stiff
sanction
at
the
Municipal
Court.
Of
course
it's
within
the
discretion
of
this
committee.
If
this
committee
wanted
to
impose
any
additional
punishment,
you
certainly
it's
it's
within
your
discretion
to
do
so.
E
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary,
especially
in
light
of
the
fact
that
they're
being
watched
like
a
hawk
by
by
Sergeant
Sweeney.
So
my
position
would
be
that
the
committee
just
and
I
don't
recall
if
we
did
this
last
time,
take
a
vote
to
essentially
adopt
and
take
notice
of
what
was
done
in
the
Municipal
Court,
take
no
further
action
and
essentially
the
matter
which
simply
pass
from
the
docket
pending
what
happens
in
the
future?
A
You
attorney
just
a
quick
question
when
those
30
days
are
up
as
long
as
they
were
not
found
in
further
violation
by
detective
Sweeney.
Their
license
will
just
automatically
be
reinstated.
E
30
days
the
license
will
take
legal
effect
once
more.
If
they
violate
in
the
interim,
then
a
new
violation
would
issue
and
we
would
have
at
the
committee's
behest
we
would
have
another
show
cause
hearing
and
depending
on
when
that
the
timing
of
that
hearing,
they
may
get
reinstated
for
a
very
short
period
of
time
and
then
get
suspended
again.
I
I,
don't
know
just
depend
on
the
timing
but
30
days.
So
as
of
December
31st.
E
A
Licensed
again
but
we'll
be
kept,
will
be
informed
beyond
the
30
days.
They'll
continue
to
be
monitored
and
this
committee
will
be.
E
I
can
assure
here,
Sergeant
Sweeney
is
on
this
vigilantly.
C
L
P
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
see
no
business
from
the
police
department,
no
business
from
the
fire
department.
They
have
several
license
renewals
before
the
committee
I
would
like
to
enter.
I
would
like
to
look
for
a
motion
for
someone
to
have
a.
K
Don't
think
we
have
to
take
out,
but
I
think
it's
always
been
some
sort
of
a
just
part
of
the
process.
There's
no
one
here
from
the
police
department,
but
because
we
have
a
private
detective
license
coming
before
us.
We've
always
asked
if
there's
any
objection
at
all,
there's
no
one
here
present
this
evening,
so
I
would
assume
not
Rose.
We
didn't
get
anything
at
all.
B
N
K
A
N
B
C
B
C
A
A
E
So
yeah
I
mean
it
says,
votes
will
be
taken,
but
it
is
essentially.
It
has
always
been
in
my
experience
more
for
information.
A
The
new
the
new
Safety
Services
might
be
able
to
just
make
this
only
for
information
and
not
have
to
vote
on
it.
Okay,
so
we
will
just
leave
that
alone
because
it
does
say,
rose
on
the
projects
that
we're
supposed
to
vote.
Should
we
vote
on
that
or
do
we
have
to
go
on
any
of
these.
A
G
I
have
a
question
as
we
understand
this
should
be
for
informational
only,
but
I
would
like
to
know
if
there
is
anything
in
the
book
that
mentioned,
because
that's
a
way
since
we
started
that's
a
way
we
used
to
do
them
where
that's
come
from.
G
E
E
My
understanding
is
this
has
been
taking
place
for
a
while
and
and
the
reason
and
the
council
president
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
because
I
guess
in
the
past
there
were
events
that
were
being
held
at
the
roads
or
some
other
venue,
and
sometimes
problems
would
arise
in
terms
of
crowd
control
traffic
control.
So
they
implemented
this
procedure
to
let
the
committee
know
ahead
of
time.
E
If
there
was
going
to
be
an
event
where
there
were
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people
just
so
that
perhaps
the
committee
would
want
to
say
well,
you
know
what
maybe
they
should
have
a
police
detail
there,
or
something
like
that.
So
it
was
basically
to
keep
the
committee
informed
if
there
was
going
to
be
an
event
which
would
impact
you
know,
health
safety
things
like
that.
But
to
my
knowledge,
it's
it's
not
a
requirement
that.
D
Yeah
I'll
just
jump
in
you
know
these
were
on
here
when
I
got
on
the
council
eight
years
ago.
Rhodes
I
think
stems
back
to
a
rock
concert
they
had
30
years
ago
and
made
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
angry
and
hence
they're
still
on
the
Safety,
Services,
docket
and
I.
Think
councilman
Vargas
can
get
money
to
get
that
same
phone
call
from
somebody
a
couple
of
years
ago
too,
that
you
know
jogged
all
of
our
memory
on
that
one,
but
yeah
the
last
owners
of
the
Park
Theater.
There
were
a
couple
instances.
D
A
C
Thank
you,
Finance.
M
I
C
C
Q
I'll
be
brief.
First
of
all,
let
me
before
I
forget.
Let
me
hope
everybody
has
happy
holidays
this
year
this
month,
I'm
a
this
should
be
brief,
but
I
want
to
address
this
issue.
Please
I'm
compelled
once
again
to
rise
and
speak
about
a
continuing
docketed
item
put
forward
by
chairman
Ferry,
asking
for
an
update
on
obtaining
a
net
metering
contract
to
replace
the
remedy
contract,
while
I'm
sure
the
inquiries
directed
to
the
administration.
My
clients,
contractual
rights,
continue
to
be
questioned
and
need
to
be
protected.
Q
On
September
12
2022
I
appeared
before
this
committee
to
share
the
latest
information
available
at
that
time
on
September
23rd
to
help
the
council
members
better
understand
the
virtual
net
metering
concept,
Nicholas
nybo
who's
with
me
this
evening.
The
senior
legal
counsel
for
remedy
energy
sent
a
detailed,
six-page
letter
to
the
council
containing
outlining
how
the
energy
credits
work
to
off
takers
on
their
electric
bills,
but
he
also
outlined
the
specific
history
in
terms
of
the
Cranston
remedy:
net
metering,
finance
agreement
and
its
legal
complexities.
Q
He
explained
how
remedy
had
worked
at
the
urgency
of
Mayor
Hopkins
to
try
and
develop
other
Alternatives
in
the
short
term
to
generate
some
savings
to
the
city
while
waiting
for
the
remedy,
Natick
Avenue
solar
project
to
come
online.
This
required
remedy
to
temporarily
waive
its
certain
exclusive
rights
under
its
contract,
while
protecting
their
long-term
investment
and
substantial
rights
under
its
valid
and
binding
agreement.
Q
I,
say
again:
remedy
is
willing
to
work
with
any
developer,
to
enable
the
city
to
benefit
in
the
short
term,
with
net
metering
credits,
I
need
to
underscore
and
discourage
anyone
interested
that
remedy
views
its
contract
with
the
city
as
firmly
binding
and
will
vigorously
defend
its
terms
and
rights.
No
good
purpose
is
achieved
by
continued
taunting
and
political
posturing.
Q
We
are
talking
about
a
contract
worth
probably
60
million
dollars
over
25
years,
as
a
demonstration
of
their
series,
as
I
can
tell
you
that
today,
remedy
energy
has
filed
a
lawsuit
against
a
competitor,
Arcadia,
solar
LLC,
renewable
LLC
and
Mr
Christopher
McIntyre
for
violating
the
terms
of
a
non-disclosure
and
non-circumvention
agreement.
It
includes
a
claim
for
tortious
interference
with
our
contract.
I
want
to
underscore
the
city
is
not
party
to
this
litigation.
Q
You
may
recognize
the
defendants
because
they,
they
are
the
client
of
your
Municipal
Court
Judge,
Matthew,
Smith
I,
understand
Mr
Smith
has
been
privately
communicating
with
some
council
members
about
Arcadia,
which
I
assume
is
prompting
these
pop-up
items
on
your
Council
agenda.
You
may
have
seen
a
new
story
last
week
where
Mr
Smith's,
client
Craig
McIntyre,
made
some
outrageous
and
basis
claims
against
Mayor
Hopkins.
He
accused
my
long-standing
support
and
friendship
with
the
mayor
as
a
reason
why
the
city
would
not
entertain
proposals
from
other
solar
companies
to
be
clear.
Q
Mayor
Hopkins
has
encouraged
and
directed
remedy
to
explore
all
activity,
all
avenues
to
get
the
Energy
savings
to
the
city
as
soon
as
possible.
But
the
mayor
understands
the
sanctity
of
a
contract
and
the
rights
of
the
parties
to
things
like
liquidated
damages
the
new
story
last
week
trying
to
compel
the
city
to
do
business
with
Mr
Smith's
client
was
predicted
many
months
ago
by
Mr
Smith,
when
he
suggested
that
his
client
would
resort
to
such
tactics
of
trying
to
embarrass
the
mayor
politically.
Q
The
mayor
did
not
cave
to
such
tactics
then,
and
he's,
and
as
seen
last
week,
he
was
justifiably
outraged
by
Mr
Smith's
client's
attempts
to
disparage
him
personally
I
share
in
that
outrage
and
groundless
claims.
As
you
well
know,
the
delay
in
the
Natick
Avenue
solar
project,
having
has
been
beyond
remedies
control
but
with
patients
and
perseverance
Cranston,
will
still
receive
the
full
25-year
net
metering
credit
discount
value.
That
was
only
scheduled
to
start
this
year.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
Happy
Holidays.
Thank
you.
C
Speak:
okay
at
this
time,
I
close
public
hearings
for
next
we
have
new
matters
before
the
committee
first
on
here
is
a
status
update
on
pending
grants,
councilwoman
Mourinho
the
floor
was
yours.
B
P
And
Dozier
one
Rosewood
Drive
North
Providence
Rhode
Island
good
evening.
It's
a
pleasure
to
come
before
you
as
I
was
driving
up.
I
saw
For
the
First
Time
The
illumination
of
city
hall,
with
the
holiday
lights
and
I
hope
for
everyone.
For
all
of
us,
it's
going
to
be
a
very
bright
2023..
May
please
enter
for
the
committee's
consideration
the
grants
that
have
been
secured
to
date.
P
Thank
you,
I
was
retained.
This
February
will
make
two
years
and
grant
funding
that
has
been
secured.
New
Revenue
to
the
city
of
Cranston
is
one
million
four
hundred
and
ninety
five
thousand.
We
have
some
additional
grants
that
have
been
submitted
that
we
have
not
received
word
on
yet,
but
it's
extremely
encouraging.
P
We
actually
filed
with
con
Congressman
langevin's
office
and
Congressional
direct
appropriation
for
one
million
dollars.
We
we
submitted
it
for
more
than
one
million
dollars,
but
it's
been
approved
for
one
million
dollars
as
soon
as
President
Biden
signs
the
FY
2023
budget,
it
will
be
included.
The
appropriation
for
one
million
dollars
will
be
included
for
Bud
long
pool
I've
also
applied
to
the
state
of
Rhode
Island.
The
Opera
American
Rescue
plan
request
for
for
funding
on
the
balance
of
that
I
put
in
for
a
whole
three
million
dollars.
P
A
P
3
million
from
the
state
three
million
from
the
state
and
the
one
million
dollar
Congressional
appropriation;
okay,
excellent
and
then
150
000
from
Rhode
Island,
Foundation
excellent.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
for
your
work
this
year.
That's
we've
I
think
gotten
more
grant
money
than
I've
seen
in
the
recent
years
since
I've
been
following
the
council,
I
don't
want
to
save
the
history,
but-
and
it's
been
very
helpful,
so
thank
you
for
your
hard
work.
P
D
Thank
you
vice
president
I,
just
Lisa
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
You
were
tremendous
ability
to
find
money
anywhere
and
everywhere,
and
you
know
you're
extremely
hard
worker
and
you
follow
through
on
what
you
know.
The
asks
are
and
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
C
You
told
me
that
you
told
us
that
you
were
working
on
it,
it's
a
complicated
process
and
that
you
would
keep
us
updated
so
I'm
asking
for
an
update.
H
The
I
don't
think
I
have
to
be
very
careful,
I
think
what
to
say,
because
you
know
there's
been
pending:
litigation
against
the
Planning
Commission,
so
the
mayor
Fung
had
entered
into
an
agreement,
as
we
know
with
brevity,
energy,
sometime
and
I,
believe
it
was
a
2020
or
so
or
maybe
even
before,
prior
to
the
Hopkins
Administration,
for
the
an
agreement
that
Mr
Mari
described,
the
mayor
has
as
you've
seen
publicly.
H
The
mayor
has
done
everything
in
this
power
to
respect
that
commitment
and
that
will
legally
bound
to
and
where
there's
valid
people
that
come
forward.
That
may
offer
a
program
that,
in
the
meantime,
before
the
the
remedy
is
able
to
deliver
full
capacity.
H
The
mayor
has
shared
those
contacts
with
revenue
for
their
consideration
in
terms
of
maybe
I,
don't
have
the
right
word
subrogating,
but
bringing
them
into
into
to
an
arrangement
that
would
be
satisfactory
to
them,
but
certainly
they
will
will
not
be
endangering
the
city
in
any
legal
entanglements
to
to
do
otherwise.
H
C
The
next
item
is
I
just
wanted
to
give
the
finance
committee
and
the
other
council
members
an
update
on
the
audit
committee.
The
audit
committee
met
for
the
first
time
in
five
years
four
months
ago
and
looking
at
what
the
charter
says,
our
goal
is
to
keep
the
council
informed
on
the
audit
process,
so
we've
had
two
meetings
and
the
result
will
hopefully
be
that
we
were
we'll
be
able
to
assist
the
Council
on
understanding
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
not
understand.
C
The
last
time
we
went
through
the
audit
process,
Mike
iGo
has
graciously
attended.
All
the
meetings
Tony
Moretti
has
a
director
of
him
already
has
graciously
attended
all
the
meetings,
and
we
even
had
the
honor
of
having
Joe
belducci
from
the
school
committee
come
to
the
last
meeting
to
offer
some
events
his
insight
as
to
why
he
feels
that
the
audit
committee
is
important
to
the
citizens
of
the
city
and
We've
covered
some
points
of
concern.
C
With
the
last
audit
we're
preparing
questions
for
the
audit
committee
meeting
with
the
with
the
auditor
next
Monday
December
12th
at
5
30
in
council
chambers,
the
auditor
will
give
us
kind
of
like
a
preview,
is
going
to
give
the
audit
committee
a
preview
of
what
the
he
will
give
to
the
council
and
all
council
members
have
been
invited
to
all
the
audit
meetings.
I
know
that
Rose
puts
them
in
the
agenda.
C
C
The
audit
committee
is
one
person
short
right
now,
we're
still
looking
for
an
attorney
and
I.
Just
hope
that
you
guys,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
the
audit
committee,
you
can
submit
them
up
to
Wednesday
at
noon
time.
When
we're
going
to
put
the
agenda
out
for
Monday's
meeting
at
5,
30.
councilman
Campo
piano.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
for
me.
C
A
C
B
C
C
C
D
C
D
M
R
M
N
N
N
D
All
right
good
evening,
everyone
I'd
like
to
call
this
December
5th
special
city
council
meeting,
with
the
workshop
of
overnight
parking
to
order.
This
meeting
is
called
in
accordance
with
Section
3.07,
the
home
Rule
Charter.
In
section
2.04.060
of
the
city
code,
I
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
water
matter.
B
D
One
agenda
item
on
the
docket
for
this
evening:
a
discussion
among
the
full
Council
and
various
administrative
departments
to
collaborate
on
legislation
aimed
at
addressing
overnight
parking
city-wide
department.
Heads
will
be
invited
to
participate
and
provide
the
council
with
information.
So
this
essentially
comes
up
with
we're
here,
because
the
council
in
the
past
has
tried
to
pass
overnight
parking
or
to
get
some
resolution
on
that
councilman
Germaine
you've
been
at
the
Forefront
of
that
recently.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
D
We
did
have
discussion
on
this
at
the
last
full
council
meeting,
where
I
believe,
solicit
and
angel
said.
We
need
to
get
together
as
a
workshop,
so
we
can
hear
from
council
members
on
what
they
would
like
in
an
ordinance.
So
he
can
get
the
ingredients
for
a
recipe
to
draft
something
for
us.
So
that
would
be
what
this
meeting
is
for.
So
listen
to
Angel.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
or
suggestion
on
a
format
to
make
it
easier.
J
Evening
in
the
two
years
that
I've
been
here,
we've
not
had
a
workshop
of
the
council,
so
this
is
a
little
different
right.
So
what
in
Heaven's
name
is
a
workshop,
and
why
do
we
even
need
one
given
the
size
of
the
committee?
J
A
lot
of
work
gets
done
in
committee,
but
not
all
council
members
sit
on
the
committee
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
a
half
I
have
had
discussions
with
no
less
than
six
members
of
the
council
and,
more
recently,
seven
councilwoman's
councilwoman
Jermaine's
introduction
of
the
ordinance
added
another
another
voice
to
this
issue.
There
does
seem
to
be
a
consensus
in
my
contact
with
various
members
of
the
council.
J
I
know
I've
had
communication
with
council
members,
Donegan
rinzulli,
although
councilwoman
Jermaine
and
I
have
not
spoken
about
this
I
did
see
her
ordinance.
I've
had
conversations
with
councilman
Campo,
piano,
councilwoman,
Vargas,
councilwoman,
Vargas
and
I
did
correspond
over
courses
several
months
on
this.
J
You
know
in
in
looking
at
this
issue,
if
you
will,
which
is
why
I
had
suggested
a
workshop.
It
is
not
is,
as
the
council
has
seen
there
have
been
times
when
legislation
has
been
put
in.
It
goes
before
committee
and
it
is
absolutely
amended
beyond
recognition
and
we've
done
that
with
some
reasonably
simple
legislation
in
some
more
complex
legislation
with
simple
amendments,
this
I
would
suggest
to
you
is:
is
not
a
less
complex
piece
of
litigation
of
litigation
legislation
it
is
involved,
perhaps
more
involved
than
one
might
imagine.
J
I
have
reviewed
the
proposal
from
2017
that
was
before
this
Council
and
more
as
we
required
than
is
set
forth
in
this
proposed
ordinance.
J
You
know
and
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
some
of
those
things
when
you
want
me
to
speak
about
it,
but
the
purpose
of
the
workshop
is
really
so
that
a
majority
of
the
council
can
meet
and
have
an
open
discussion.
The
open
meetings
act
prohibits
in
Syria
Autumn
Communications,
which
is
a
violation
of
the
open
meetings
act.
J
You
know
we
have
to
do
our
business
in
the
eye
of
the
public,
so
you
know,
to
that
extent
I
I
did
recommend
and
and
to
the
councilwoman
and
others
graciously
you
know
went
along
with
the
idea
that
we
do
a
workshop
as
a
council
person
on
a
smaller
Council,
any
number
it's
actually
more
than
two
decades
ago
now
we
used
to
do
workshops
all
the
time,
because
you
know
you
get
four
people
who
want
to
get
a
piece
of
legislation
done
you
know
four
out
of
five
is
is
a
super
majority,
so
it's
you
know
you
need
to.
J
You
need
to
get
people
together
and
that's
why
I
had
suggested
this
I
also
know,
for
example,
that
Public
Safety
had
weighed
in
on
this
in
years
past
I
know
that
a
traffic
study
was
done
in
2017,
I,
don't
know
if
that
has
made
its
way
around
to
this
group
or
even
if
this
group
thinks
that
it's
it's
valid
or
not,
but
there
has
been
work
done
in
bits
and
pieces
on
this
over
the
years.
J
You
know,
so
we
need
to
sort
through
those
bits
and
pieces.
You
know,
for
example,
the
prior
proposal
of
legislation
had
indicated
that
this
be
a
pilot
program.
J
You
know
my
my
suggestion
is
that
it
not
be
a
pilot
program.
Did
it
be
applied
city-wide,
but
did
it
only
be
applied
to
specific
enumerated
streets?
Much
like
we
do
stop
signs
and
you
know
other
other
types
of
things
in
in
other
parts
of
the
other
parts
of
the
the
code.
So
you
know,
for
example,
you
know
District
districts
and
Citywide.
You
should
be
looking
at
districts
and
see
which
streets
are.
J
You
know
what
does
the
application
look
like
I've,
you
know
in
my
research
I've
found
several
in
other
places,
not
in
Rhode
Island.
Oddly
enough
that
you
know
would
certainly
be
a
suggestion
for
whoever
administers
the
program.
It
would
seem
that
you
know
I
had
some
preliminary
discussions
with
the
colonel
and
I'm
going
to
speak
for
the
colonel,
but
he
sat
here
when
I
I
said
this
once
before.
J
J
You
know
different
colored
stickers
for
different
years.
I
mean
I,
know
that
that's
really
in
the
weeds,
but
legislatively
you
have
to
set
up
the
framework
for
that
and
always
on
the
back
end
of
an
ordinance.
What
what's
the
violation?
You
know
really,
for
you
know
someone
who
doesn't
comply,
you
know
with
the
ordinance.
What
do
we
do
for
folks
who,
who
Park
in
those
overnight
spaces
who
are
not
properly
permitted
to
do
so?
J
You
know
we
have
to
bake
that
in
to
the
ordinance
as
well.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
things.
You
know
to
be
considered
and
I
know,
rather
than
take
committee
time
and
then
Council
time
to
go
back
and
forth
forth
and
have
members
of
the
public
safety
apparatus
and
the
administration
to
appear
and
discuss
these
things.
It
seemed
to
me
that
this
was
a
more
workable
format
that
would
keep
us
out
of
trouble
with
the
Oma
and
that's.
Why
we're
here
to
to
do
this
in
a
workshop
format.
J
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
explain
the
reason
for
the
behind
the
format
and
I'm,
certainly
here
to
to
listen
to
you,
take
notes
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
as
we
move
forward
in
in
the
process.
Incidentally,
when
the
council
sits
as
a
workshop
and
and
just
in
general
I
want
to
be
clear
about
something
you
know,
the
Cranston
City
Council
is
very
generous
in
providing
public
comment
to
its
constituents
on
almost
every
agenda,
with
respect
to
docketing
and
undocketed
items
in
the
workshop
format.
J
You
know
we're
really
here
to
you,
know
we're
here
in
the
in
a
work
room
constructing
something
the
the
Oma
does
not
require
public
participation,
but
rather
requires
that
the
work
be
done
under
the
eye
of
the
public.
Certainly,
there
is
more
that
once
you
get
once
we
get
a
legislative
proposal
together
and
drafted,
it
will
be
introduced
before
the
council,
like
any
ordinance,
and
it
will
be
referred
out
to
committee
and
obviously
there'll
be
hearings
in
committee
and
then
hearings
again
before
the
council
for
public
comment.
J
My
suggestion
respectfully
is,
is
that
the
council,
you
know,
do
its
work
on
this.
Give
me
instructions,
listen
to
you,
know
the
administration
and
so
forth,
and
you
know
that
it's
just
to
make
best
use
of
your
time,
but
certainly
it
is
up
to
you
know
the
the
council's
aggression.
You
know
to
allow
public
participation
in
this
point.
It
is
not
required.
G
You
really
explain
really
the
purpose
of
this
workshop
and
thank
you
for
really
encouraged
that
and
proposed
that
and
as
I
when
I
proposed
the
ordinance-
and
you
just
mentioned
it-
it
was
or
any
way
to
start
having
the
conversations
as
I
couldn't
participate
with
other
Council
who
work
on
that,
and
this
is
an
issue
that
is
really
dear
to
my
heart,
so
oppose
my
ordinance.
Knowing
there
will
there's
gonna
be
another
ordinance
that
has
been
working
on
and
I
thought
we
will
come
by
what
I
have
and
we
have
this
discussion.
G
That's
the
purpose
of
that.
So,
as
I
asked
thank,
you
was
for
pointing
the
version
of
my
ordinance,
so
I
as
I
was
passing
on
my
question
for
the
administration
and
all
those
stakeholders
is
I
know
at
the
time
on
Attack
on
this
on
October
13,
I,
I,
believe
when
we,
when
I
propose
this
ordinance,
there
were
many
pushbacks
from
the
administration
from
the
colonel
from
the
fire.
G
So
what
I
want
to
wait
till
it
today
is
we
have
to
to
adapt
with
our
current
population.
So
what
is
always
happening?
The
past
five
years?
The
past
10
years
cannot
be
applied,
and
also
during
the
day
when
we
talk
about
this
safety
during
the
day
there
were,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
the
street.
A
lot
of
cars
park
in
the
street
and
fire
did
their
work
and
and
and
the
police
do
the
work
and
it
most
crowded
most
crowded
during
the
day,
and
they
are
able
to
do
their
work.
G
G
G
Do
they
ask
people
to
do
not
walk
in
doing
this
during
the
day
and
because
they
need
to
go
through
I,
don't
think
so
when
we
have
cars
parking
both
sides
of
the
street
and
people
walking
and
they
do
still
doing
their
own
I,
don't
think
this
argument
is
a
hold
at
all,
so
I
am
really
happy
to
finally
have
all
the
council
who
are
interesting,
who
want
to
hate
to
have
this
issue
resolved
here
and
for
the
Administration.
G
My
question
in
this
purpose
ordinance
what
and
then
also
I
would
love
what
you
see.
I
purpose
here
that
you
don't
agree
with,
and
what
do
you
purpose.
H
First,
off
Mayor
Hopkins
is
as
open
ears
to
this
he's
sympathetic
to
the
situation.
People
are
in,
so
he
too
is
a
game
for
a
proposal,
though
he's
also
listening
to
his
fire
chief,
his
police,
Colonel
and
certainly
head
of
DPW,
and
it's
a
very
complex
issue.
H
It's
not
as
simple
as
you
think,
Miss
director
bernata
was
here
this
evening
and
he'll
articulate
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
recommend
that
the
council
considers
and
adapt
adopting
an
ordinance
and
he'll
articulate
that
and
also
what
we
did
is
to
basically
to
save
the
Colonel's
time
and
current
and
and
the
chief
warrants
time.
H
We're
asked
to
pull
together
that
video
from
the
other
night
to
kind
of,
if
everyone
wasn't
here,
but
to
reinforce
what
their
statements
were,
because,
basically
they
would
just
repeat
what
they
were
going
to
have
said
previously.
So
we'd
like
to
play
that
that
tape,
but
first
off,
is
director
Bernardo
I,
don't
wonder
if
he
can
possibly
if
he
allows
the
floor
to
articulate
his
concerns
as
to
the
things
to
considerations
for
shaping
the
this
ordinance.
H
So
if
he
could
speak
first,
if
he
can
ask
whatever
questions
you
have,
then
we
can
maybe
play
the
tapes,
the
videotape
from
Colonel
winquist
and
Chief
Warren
about
their
concerns.
H
Obviously,
everyone
recognizes
the
benefits
the
residents
being
able
to
to
park
and
and
enjoy
their
properties
more,
but
obviously
when
shaping
an
ordinance
such
as
this,
the
question
is
by
enacting
something
that's
cause
and
effect
and
just
realizing
what
might
happen
so
we're
just
going
to
be
pointing
those
out.
So
if
you
allow
the
floor
for
Mr,
Bernardo
I
think
he'll
he'll
be
able
to
articulate
many
of
his
concerns
that
that
he
has
construct,
particularly
from
a
dpwm
that
okay.
D
I
Thank
you
council
president,
good
evening,
director
Moretti
good
evening,
Raw
May
administrative
standpoint
to
to
administrate.
You
know
a
hypothetical
permit
program.
Do
you
think
that
the
city
would
need
additional
Personnel?
What
department
do
you
think
would
be
best
suited
to
administer
or
execute
such
a
such
an
ordinance?
Do
you
think
it
would
be
in
DPW?
Would
it
be
out
of
the
the
police
department
what
I
guess
from
an
administrative
standpoint?
Where
do
you
think
it
would
best
lie.
H
Just
jumping
ahead
more
than
likely
City
Clerks
department
and
yes,
it
would
probably
require
probably
a
of
an
FTE,
probably
to
administer
and
I
believe
director
bernata
will
articulate
that
that,
if
there's
an
ordinance
pass,
that's
based
on
need
not
just
convenience
not
just
to
allow
someone
to
park
on
the
street
because
they
don't
want
to
it's
too
cold
out
there
to
bring
that
car
in,
but
based
on,
need,
and
with
that
for
permitting
purposes.
H
That's
that's
the
the
thought
from
this
end
is
based
on
a
permit
basis
than
just
a
blanket
people
can
park
as
as
they
wish,
because
then
there'd
be
that
could
very
much
be
based
on
convenience
and
and
add
to
it
that
wouldn't
be
at
the
Spirit
of
the
ordinance.
The
spirit
of
the
ordinance
I
would
think
is
those
concerned
for
those
residents
that
don't
have
enough
parking
on
their
on
their
own
property.
Unless
you
do
feel
it
should
be
a
convenience
for
the
for
the
citizens
to
do
that.
G
G
G
G
G
And
the
last
one,
the
owner
of
a
house
or
of
a
house
without
parking,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
situation
like
this.
There's
no
parking
at
all
the
owner
of
a
house
without
parking
shall
apply
for
ensuite
overnight
parking
for
each
unit.
So
this
is
for
any
house.
You
do
not
have
parking
alone
at
all,
but
you
need
to
apply
based
on
criteria
so
the
way
you
say
it
is
like
we
we
all.
We
need
to
take
a
little
time
to
it.
What
I?
What
I
really
propose?
So
it's
not
something
anyone
can
go.
G
G
G
I
think
the
most
you
know
tangible
problem
we
have
is
enforcement
and
how
is
is
how
we
going
to
enforce
it,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
laws
already
in
the
book
who
have
not
been
enforced
and
that's
why?
What
we
need
to
work
on
as
well
enforcement
overnight
parking
permits
shall
be
always
displayed
on
the
fourth
and
at
the
right
side
of
the
vehicle.
G
So
the
person
who
has
the
permit
has
to
to
display
his
permit
on
his
car.
So
when
the
police
the
same
way
when
the
police
officer
came
to
the
street
and
give
everybody
a
ticket
okay,
so
when
they
come,
they
know
who
who
is
allowed
to
park
based
on
their
permits
and
now
so
this
one
says
it
is
unlawful
for
the
operator
of
the
vehicle
to
park
overnight
on
any
street
without
an
ensuite
overnight
parking.
G
G
So
this
is
what
it
is
and
now,
in
the
event,
offset
violation.
So
in
the
event
that
someone
violate
the
law,
the
municipal
judge,
hearing
the
action
sure
that's
that's
really
in
the
book.
I
didn't
put
this
one.
That
was
the
enforcement
for
the
law
that
already
there.
G
So
what
I
do
add
in
this
live
49:
okay
for
the
48
okay,
they
violated
history
of
overnight
parking
without
permit
incident
and
or
prior
warnings
issue,
because
you
have
to
have
a
warning
in
no
instance,
shall
they
call
imposed
by
Municipal
George
be
less
than
50,
so
I
add
a
little
more
because
now
we
give
people
a
way
to
not
having
to
comply
with
the
law.
If
you
don't
comply,
you
have
more
consequences.
G
If
you
have,
you
do
have
a
permit
and
you
do
not
display
your
permit
and
you
park
on
the
street.
You
will
pay
a
fee
for
fifty
dollars.
If
you
park
on
the
street,
you
know
you
need
to
park
on
the
street.
You
didn't
apply
for
a
permit.
You
will
pay
your
fees,
fifty
dollars
and
more
and
no
more
than
60
dollars
per
offense,
so
each
time
so
also.
G
H
So
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
is
thought.
The
spirit
of
a
workshop
is
for
discussion,
open-minded
an
example
and
I
think
it's
terrific
you
put
something
forward
but
like
if
I
put
a
photo
at
any
other
person,
I
think
it
deserves
some
evaluation.
An
example
would
be.
I
was
not
so
simple,
though
in
concept
that
sounds
reasonable.
H
If
you're
saying
four
people,
four
drivers
you're
allowed
to
get
one
permit
on
the
street,
but
if
you
have
a
driveway
that
can
fit
six
or
eight
cars,
do
you
is
that
still
okay
to
park,
one
of
those
cars?
That's
what
I
meant
by
convenience.
So
I
think
that
might
be
something
for
this
group
to
consider.
That's
what
I
meant
so
far,
if
you
miss,
maybe
I
misspoke
about
the
word
convenience,
but
to
me
I
call
that
convenience.
H
So
it's
just
maybe
a
point
to
consider,
but
I
could
tell
you
in
the
long
run.
It
won't
be
a
red.
This
won't
be
a
revenue
generator
for
the
city.
Trust
trust
us
when
it
comes
to
this
this
would
this
would
be
a
burden
on
this
financial
burden
and
just
one
of
the
common
I
have
to
defend
director
bernado,
Colonel,
windquist
and
chief
Warren.
If
you
don't
think
these
people
are
contemporary
thinkers,
everyone
in
this
room
is
wrong:
they're,
not
they
don't
live
in
the
past
they're.
H
D
The
group
director,
just
before
you
sit
down
and
I
forget
just
two
things:
one
I
don't
Envision
the
clerk's
office.
Administering
it
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
would
I
would
envision
reminded.
This
is
your
suggestions
because
that's
all
we're
making
his
suggestions
tonight
is
maybe
the
VIN
station
administering
it
or
the
police
department,
because
I'd
like
to
put
somewhere
in
here
that
the
car
needs
valid
insurance
right.
D
It
needs
to
be
registered,
so
I
think
that's
something
that
the
police
department
could
check,
not
the
city
clerk's
office,
so
that
kind
of
sticks
out
in
my
head
and
then
after
looking
at
the
ordinance
that
councilmember
Jermain
was
putting
together.
I
disagree
with
the
part
of
four
adults
because
I
know
of
a
family
that
has
two
teenagers
and
two
adults
that
live
in
the
house
and
every
night.
They
have
to
leave
two
cars
on
the
street
and
then
snowstorms
are
a
challenge.
D
So
I
think
it
should
be
four
licensed
drivers
instead
of
four
adults.
So
that's
just
my
two
thoughts
and
happy
to
hear
from
director
Bernardo.
Thank
you
director.
S
N
S
I
want
to
say
that
we've
reviewed
everything
we've
had
multiple
meetings
with
colleagues
in
other
cities
and
towns
that
are
dealing
with
these
issues,
and
it's
not
that
we're
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
it
right
and
we
avoid
the
problems
that
the
other
communities
already
experiencing
when
I
talk
about
need
versus
convenience.
I'm
talking
about
the
resident
would
go
to
whatever
the
The
Entity
is,
whether
it's
the
police
department
or
the
clerk's
office,
and
they
would
fill
out
an
application.
S
We
have
a
process
in
the
city
where
you
can
get
a
handicap
placard
for
the
street
and
it's
based
upon
need.
We'd
have
to
set
up
similar
criteria
for
need.
I,
don't
agree
with
the
fact
that
fall
driver's
license
presents
a
need.
What
we
were
thinking
more
of
is
that
the
applicant
would
go
and
would
show
us
the
registered
vehicles
for
that
address.
We
would
review
what's
capable
for
that
address
if
they
have
two
cause
and
they
have
access
in
a
driveway
for
two
cars
there
is
not
a
need.
S
That's
what
we're
talking
about
for
a
need.
The
bigger
picture
long
before
we
even
get
down
that
road
is,
we
have
to
evaluate
every
single
one
of
our
roadways,
the
width
and
the
length
we
have
to
look
at
the
length
of
the
roadway
subtract
out.
Driveways
subtract
out
intersections
subtract
out
hydrants.
If
we're
going
to
try
to
get
parking
on
a
roadway
for
both
sides
of
the
street.
S
On
one
side,
we
need
to
know
how
many
cars
can
actually
physically
fit
on
that
street
safely
before
we
start
issuing
permits
something
that
was
not
addressed,
and
it
would
be
a
huge
impact
to
the
police
department,
DPW
and
the
residents
is
no
matter
what
person
gets
a
permit.
S
That's
still
going
to
have
to
move
their
cars
during
storm
emergencies
and
if
they,
if
the
police
department
does
not
have
nearly
enough
tow
contractors
under
contract
to
pull
these
cars
off
the
street
in
the
middle
of
a
storm
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
and
they
will
not
be
paying
that
fee
to
the
city,
they'll
be
paying
that
fee
to
the
Towing
contractor
and
they
will
not
get
their
cars
back
until
they
do
so.
S
If
they
walk
out
of
the
house
to
go
to
work
the
next
morning
and
they
don't
have
their
car,
they
may
have
hundreds
of
dollars
in
in
fees
to
an
impound
lot
to
pay.
So
I,
don't
think
that
we'd
be
doing
a
service
by
doing
that,
but
we're
very
concerned
about.
If
we
haven't
analyzed
the
streets,
we
want
to
set
up
criteria
that
you
can't
park
within
five
feet,
either
side
of
a
driveway.
S
S
The
conditions
not
parking
within
certain
feet
of
the
intersection
not
parking
within
certain
feet
of
a
driveway
and
not
parking
within
certain
feet
of
intersections
driveways
and
hydrants.
S
So
again
you
know
it's
not
that
we're
opposed,
but
we've
we
see
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
in
advance
of
any
kind
of
audience.
Just
allowing
four
people
with
driver's
license.
Those
four
people
with
driver's
license
may
only
have
one
car,
in
which
case
there's
really
no
need,
unless
they
just
want
to
leave
it
out
there,
which,
again,
is
convenience
not
need.
S
D
Right
at
this
time,
director
bernardo's
been
here
all
day,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
if
there
any
questions
or
comments
for
him
and
then
I'm
going
to
let
him
leave
if
there's
nothing
else
from
the
council,
so
vice
president
Faye.
So.
I
C
As
the
width
length
Corners
to
take
that
type
of
thing
and
what
he
just
said
about
the
garbage
pickup
is
going
to
be
a
major
issue,
because
I've
had
that
issue
with
people
on
Cranston
Street
parking
in
front
of
my
house
when
it's
not
allowed
and
I've
had
to
leave
notes
on
that
cause.
Saying
don't
park
here
anymore.
I'm
going
to
have
you
towed,
so
I
can
imagine
on
a
small
Street.
S
And
that's
all
feedback
that
we've
had
from
colleagues
in
Pawtucket
Central
Falls
Providence
in
Newport.
These
are
problems
that
they've
already
dealt
with
they're.
Getting
calls
constantly.
My
neighbor
has
their
car
parked
in
front
of
my
house.
That's
been
there
for
five
days.
They
don't
have
to
move
it
anymore.
My
my
elderly
I
can't
come
and
visit
me.
My
trash
didn't
get
picked
up
because
my
neighbors
we're
just
trying
to
avoid
those
problems,
there's
a
way
of
avoiding
every
one
of
them.
S
If
we
do
it
right,
but
we
have
to
do
it
right
and
the
first
step
is
to
analyze
every
street
to
see
what
its
capability
is.
Are
we
going
to
do
it
on
the
even
side
of
the
roadway?
Are
we
going
to
do
it
on
the
odd
side
of
the
roadway
and
even
selecting
that
councilman
is
going
to
be
a
problem?
I
don't
want
my
neighbor's
car
in
front
of
my
house.
D
S
I
I,
don't
even
think
it
would
be
done
in-house
I
think
it
would
probably
be
one
of
our
contractors.
Perhaps
the
contractor.
That's
done
our
pavement
inventory
that
has
all
the
roadways
already
in
GIS
I
analyzing
the
lengths
the
widths
and
subtracting
out
the
unpocking.
The
no
parking
areas
is.
S
To
figure
that
out,
I
have
to
sit
with
some
of
them
and
ask
them
what
their
availability
was.
It's
not
going
to
be
I
would
guess
it
would
be
less
than
three
months.
Okay,
because
most
of
it
could
be
done
through
available
data,
and
you
just
have
to
verify
it
through
field
research,
yeah,
the.
D
A
You
director,
while
you
are
having
that
conversation,
I
think
this
is
certainly
going
to
need
a
fiscal
note
of
applied
to
it,
to
know
how
much
this
is
going
to
cost,
and
then
you
know
how
much
we
charge.
So
you
know
first
year
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
to
do
this
analysis
and
then
there'll
be
additional
things,
but
could
you
possibly
get
that
information
the
cost
for
them
to
do
this
analysis.
A
S
We're
short-handed
and
we're
overloaded,
it
was,
and
this
this
wouldn't
be
an
immediate
priority,
because
we
have
to
take
care
of
day-to-day
issues.
So
you
know
it
may
be
better
off
to
hire
somebody
to
to
do
this
information
and
come
up
with
a
signage
that
would
be
needed
in
the
appropriate
fee
that
should
be
charged
I.
D
A
Yes,
I
was
just
simply
asking
about
the
I.
Don't
know
that
the
time
that
it
will
take
to
analyze
the
roads
that
has
a
fiscal
impact,
especially
if
we're
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
contractor,
that's
doing
it.
That's
why
we
understood
it.
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
charge
us
or
if
it's
in-house
we're
taking
people's
hours,
we'll
need
overtime
and
I.
Just
you
know,
it
was
just.
O
S
If
we're
just
talking
about
what
it
would
cost
to
do
to
analyze,
the
roadways
I
can
make
a
few
phone
calls
to
some
of
the
engineering
firms
that
are
already
on
our
on-call
list
and
give
them
get
budget
Figures.
It's
not
a
proposal
number,
but
it
would
give
us
a
ballpark
yeah.
P
A
Thank
you
and
I
just
would
love
your
opinion.
I
know
that
in
Providence,
as
far
as
the
snow
bands,
they
they
send
out
some
kind
of
a
text
or
an
email.
We
don't
have
3-1-1,
but
they
do,
but
that's
how
they
inform
people
that
they
can't
be
on
the
roads.
So
if
there
was
a
way
to
the
people
had
to
collect,
you
know
give
us
a
phone
number
or
an
email
address
so
that
we
can
send
something
out
to
you
in
your
professional
opinion.
A
S
You
know
we
all
do
pretty
much
the
same
thing:
the
police
department,
it's
not
a
matter
of
lack
of
information,
the
residents
all
know
when
it's
going
to
snow,
the
weather
forecasters
put
it
out
there,
every
one
of
the
radio
stations
the
television
stations
show
the
parking
ban,
the
colonel
will
call
and
we'll
issue
the
parking
ban.
It'll
show
as
soon
as
it's
issued.
What
the
time
of
the
parking
bands
are
so
I
I.
Don't
think
we
have
to
change
anything
from
the
parking
ban.
S
Well,
the
the
bigger
concern
is,
we
already
do
have
people
without
allowing
pockney
on
the
street
that
leave
their
car
there,
and
then
we
have
to
call
the
police
department.
The
car
gets
told
they
have
a
huge
bill
for
the
toe.
We
can't
go
back,
we
just
those
that
road
has
to
be
clean
if
we,
because,
if
they
leave
the
cars
on
the
road
and
we
damage
them
with
the
plows
and
there's
a
high
probability
that
we're
going
to
happen,
you
don't
know.
S
What's
underneath
that
snow,
we
kick
up
a
rock
and
we
break
somebody's
windshield
or
break
a
side
window
Dent
it
that's.
You
know
they'll
come
to
you
in
the
claims
committee
and
ask
for
money,
and
it's
not
our
fault,
but
those
those
have
to
be
out.
There
is
even
for
the
safety
of
my
men.
I
don't
want
them
having
to
be
driving
around
those
cars.
It's
not
safe
for
them.
Well,.
A
S
Well
again,
we
want
to
do
better
than
Providence.
Providence
has
huge
issues
of
of
in
the
new
Mayo.
Is
a
personal
friend
campaigned
on
the
fact
that
they
don't
do
curb
to
curb?
We
can
do
curb
to
curb,
because
we
don't
have
the
vehicles
on
the
roadway
so
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
emulate
Providence,
Central,
Falls,
Pawtucket
or
Newport
to
do
this
because
they
don't
they
Envy
us.
The
fact
that
we
can
do
this
right.
They
were
already
behind
the
eight
ball.
A
I
I
understand
I
was
trying
to
see
if
they
said
we've
had
you
know
this
season.
We
had
a
hundred
cars
that
we
had
to
talk
if
they,
you
know,
echoed
what
you're
saying
with
any
kind
of
data
that
would
discourage
us
from
doing
this,
because
that's
how
you
know
what
a
problem
they're
having
there
I
didn't
mean
to
emulate
their
problems.
Just
you
know
not
even
encounter
them.
S
S
There
are
some
homes
that
have
a
need,
and
we
don't
want
to
Discount
that,
but
even
those
houses
that
have
the
need
they
still
have
to
at
some
point
find
a
place
to
put
that
vehicle
during
a
storm
emergency.
So
it's
not
like
this
is
a
Panacea
for
them.
G
Can
I
add
something
because
I
didn't
mention
that
I
think
the
the
what
we
have
in
the
book
concerning
the
Mandate
for
when
we
have
is
been
it's
the
same,
nothing
changed.
So
what
we
have
I
see
in
this
city
is
like.
We
are
not
consistent.
People
should
know
there
is
a
ban.
You
should
not
let
your
your
vehicle
in
the
street.
If
he
has
to
talk,
he
told
and
you
pay
the
consequences,
so
we
have
to
be
consistent
in
enforcing
the
law.
S
G
H
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah,
so
I.
So
on
that
the
fuzzy
thing
on
everybody
wants
to
do
that
again,
the
concerns
you
know
the
Practical
concerns
because
I
could
see
it
coming
in
the
snow
removal
sanding
of
the
vehicle,
Vehicles
not
being
done
damage
to
them.
Trash
removal,
street
sweeping
and
then
also
on
Mr
bernardo's
list
is
kind
of
storing
of
vehicles.
Disabled
Vehicles
can't
touch
them
if
they're
registered
they'll
be
on
the
streets.
H
Some
of
the
things
along
with
Mr
Bernardo
has,
but
if
you
can
go
to
the
play,
the
videos
out,
okay,.
J
I
I
think
just
the
reference
that
that's
going
to
be
sent
to
all
of
the
council
members
is
fine.
I
would
just
caution
the
council
members
that,
when
you
receive
the
email,
do
not
reply
all
and
do
not
have
any
discussion
about
the
email
as
a
group
that
would
be
a
violation
of
the
Oma
so
otherwise
to
receive
information
is
great.
D
A
D
And
we
have,
we
all
have
the
minutes
that
we
received
direct.
Thank
you
very
much
just
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
everybody's
time
and
director
Bernardo.
Thank
you.
At
this
time,
I
see
a
lot
of
notes
that
solicitor
Angel
has
taken
on
different
ideas
or
ways
we
can
go
with
an
ordinance.
Is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
add
this
evening
or
the
solicitor?
Why
he's
here
before
we
wrap
up
the
workshop.
D
D
A
lot
of
great
input,
a
lot
of
stuff
for
the
solicitor
to
digest,
certainly
understand
it's
a
problem
across
the
whole
city
that
if
we
work
hard
on,
we
can
maybe
able
to
solve
so
this
time.
I'll
attain
a
motion.
Solicitor.
J
D
I
think
when,
if
we
do
the
permits
Council
vice
president,
the
chair
of
Public
Works,
should
text
everybody
who
has
a
permit
and
tell
them
to
move
their
car.
Can
you
handle
that
absolutely
do.
G
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Solicitation,
for
this
is
a
good
step
toward
getting
something
and,
as
I
want
to
wait
away
that
we
need
to
do
something,
and
we
know
nothing
is
easy.
Whatever
laws
you
have,
they
have
the
good
side.
They
can
have
the
you
know
pitfall,
but
we
need
to
do
something
for
those
who
are
in
needs
and
I.
Think
we're
gonna
get
it
right
so
and
thank
you
for
the
administration
for
coming
to
give
input
and
I
agree.
G
A
Just
quickly,
if
we
could
all
also
commit
to
letting
our
constituents
know
that
call
that
this
is
a
more
complicated
process
than
maybe
meets
the
eye,
and
it's
going
to
be
costly
and
time
consuming,
but
we
are
working
on
it
all
together,
because
I
think
that
everyone,
you
know
if
people
are
struggling
with
something.
Sometimes
they
think
that
it
can
happen
overnight
and
you
know
no
pun
intended
it
can't.
So
thank.