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September 6, 2023, Special City Council Meeting
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All
right
good
evening
at
this
time,
I
want
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
Joint
Council
session
and
the
mayor's
informational
session
on
the
bud.
Long
pool
for
procedural
matters
I
just
want
to
inform
every
one
in
the
public,
both
here
at
Cranston,
East
Auditorium
and
on
Zoom,
that
the
council
meeting
cannot
officially
convene
at
this
time
because
we
need
to
have
a
quorum.
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What
that
is,
is
a
majority
of
council
members,
a
couple
of
council
members,
councilwoman
Vargas
and
councilwoman
ranzulli
indicated
that
they
will
be
here,
probably
about
6,
30
or
so
so.
At
that
time
we
will
officially
convene
the
meeting
in
the
meantime,
officially
convene
the
council
meeting.
In
the
meantime,
the
mayor
will
go
forward
and
present
his
informational
portion,
which
will
later
be
discussed
as
part
of
the
council
meeting,
and
the
mayor's
informational
meeting
will
also
be
streamed
as
a
courtesy
on
Zoom
for
the
public
as
well
in
the
mayor's
in
agreement
with
that.
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Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Dennis
the
Jesus
and
I'm
going
to
be
the
moderator
for
today's
informational
meeting.
I
want
to
thank
you
all,
first
and
foremost,
for
coming
out
tonight.
The
mayor
has
a
detailed
presentation
to
make
to
you:
there'll
be
three
speakers
tonight,
one
of
them,
obviously
the
mayor
and
we'll
all.
We
also
have
a
gentleman
representing
sakosha
and
Associates
architects,
and
we
also
have
a
gentleman
from
Western
and
Samson
that
I
will
be
introducing
after
the
mayor
makes
his
comments.
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After
we
finish
our
speaking
portion,
there
is
a
microphone
here
and
we
would
ask
that
you
come
forward
and
address,
ask
any
questions
of
the
mayor
or
anything
of
regarding
the
architectural
firm
or
the
Consultants
that
are
been
hired
for
this
particular
project.
Again,
the
microphone
is
here
one
at
a
time.
Please
come
forward
and
hopefully
ask
a
question
in
a
constructive
manner,
so
that
we
can
give
you
a
positive
answer
that
you
feel
comfortable
with
again.
My
name
is
Dennis.
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The
Jesus
I
was
the
former
Parks
and
Recreation
director
of
wait
time
way
back
the
late
1980s
recently
Special
Olympics,
director
executive
director
retired,
not
too
long
ago
and
serving
in
a
part-time
capacity
in
the
mayor's
office.
With
that
he
needs
no
introduction.
Our
mayor
has
given
over
27
years
in
the
educational
field.
As
a
teacher
here
at
Cranston
East.
As
a
former
athletic
director
teacher
four
years,
he
has
served
the
city
councilman
Citywide.
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I
can
take
that.
That's
fine.
We
all
have
a
different
style
of
management.
Some
said
that
I
lie.
I
will
not
take
that
because
I've
taught
my
own
children
to
remember
your
name
in
your
word
and
tell
the
truth.
I
have
never
ever
once
as
your
mayor
or
as
a
councilman
lied
while
I'm
in
the
in
this
office.
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Yet
being
an
athletic
director,
I
was
always
taught
to
be
the
next
season
ahead.
If
I
was
doing
football
season,
I
was
worrying
about
winter
schedules.
If
I
was
doing
winter
schedules,
I
was
trying
to
come
up
with
what
we
needed
for
the
spring.
Well
I
took
that
same
approach
into
this
office,
so
in
March
of
2021
I
called
our
Recreation
director
Rachel
saglia
in
to
discuss
the
Budlong
pool,
keeping
in
mind
that
we're
still
at
the
height
of
covid
I
was
thinking
forward.
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My
guess
is:
it
was
the
pressure
of
some
people
that
didn't
want
to
change
to
a
new
design,
so
she
flip-flopped
okay,
I'd,
like
to
give
you
some
statistics
here
about
the
size
of
different
pools,
because
people
have
been
arguing
back
and
forth
about
the
size
of
the
pool
that
I've
promoted
the
Budlong
pool
itself.
These
are
the
actual
figures
260
feet
by
85
depth
of
two
feet
to
10
feet.
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The
poll
that
I
have
looked
at
is
about
seven
thousand
square
feet,
big
enough
to
accommodate
approximately
500
People
based
on
the
state
law.
Approximately
a
splash
pad
that
could
be
built
in
the
future
could
accommodate
and
I've
reduced.
The
size
of
that
could
read
could
hold
approximately
50
children
at
one
time
so
between
those
two
we're
up
over
500
people
to
use
this
facility.
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So
I
asked
the
question:
why
are
they
so
high?
Well,
if
you
look
to
the
right
that
gives
you
a
clear
indication
of
what
was
going
on
as
the
water
was
leaking
through
the
cracks
in
the
pool,
it
was
being
filled
up
by
that
three
inch
water
hose
I
took
that
picture
two
days
ago.
It's
still
there
in
the
pool.
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We
have
the
the
hose
the
three
inch
hose
hooked
up
right
to
the
building.
It's
not
anywhere
where
they're
hiding
it.
There
was
a
kid
that
was
working
over
there.
Every
hour
was
turning
the
lever
to
put
more
water
in
that
pool,
not
to
mention
the
chemicals
that
had
to
be
added
to
keep
the
level
up
to
make
them
safe.
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Those
of
you
that
own
a
pool-
that's
called
backwash,
you
take
the
dirty
filthy,
water,
that's
in
your
system
and
you
bash
well
backwash
it.
Where
do
you
think
that
water
is
going
right
now,
I?
Think
Dem
would
like
to
know
because
that
dirty
filthy
chemical
filled,
water
is
being
pumped
right
into
the
river
that
flows
next
to
the
pool.
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The
question
I
ask:
why
modernize,
because
I
look
at
aquatic
Trends
throughout
the
Northeast
I've
gone
to
Massachusetts
Connecticut
and
almost
every
single
City
in
town
in
Rhode
Island.
The
trends
indicate
that
we're
going
to
smaller
pools
that
handle
the
population
but
to
have
more
activities
such
as
splash
pads.
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That's
how
deteriorated
the
cement
is.
It
has
cracks
in
it
that
we're
told
to
people
who
are
in
charge
of
that
pool
that
water
continues
to
come
from
the
ground,
not
from
the
rain.
It
is
coming
up
those
pictures
that
I've
showed
you
today
that
seven
foot
depth
that's
groundwater
coming
back
up
through
the
liner,
because
underneath
the
liner
is
broken.
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Thank
you
mayor
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
introduce
Michael
Van
Hamel
Michael
is
the
director
of
design
for
sokosio
and
Associates
he's
been
an
educational
planner
for
over
35
years
worked
on
domestic
and
international
projects.
He
has
worked
on
historical
Renovations
and
his
expertise
is
in
Architectural,
Interiors
Michael,
Van
Hamel.
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If
I
started
listing
all
the
pools
he
has
worked
on
and
throughout
the
East
Coast
we'd
be
here
until
tomorrow,
but
suffice
it
to
say
that
Samson,
Weston
and
Samson
works
on
Municipal
pools
to
include
facilities,
planning,
conceptual
design,
new
installation,
construction
and
repair
of
existing
facilities,
modifications
and
upgrades
surface
restoration,
including
tile
plaster,
concrete
compliance
audits,
filtration
pumps,
valves
I
mean
their
company
is
world
renowned
for
their
expertise
in
Municipal
pools,
mock
Mariano
will
be
joining
Michael.
In
the
presentation
that
you
are
about
to
see.
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How
about
now
thank
you,
Michael
Van
Halen,
with
sakoshu
and
Associates
I'm,
the
director
of
design.
We
are
right
down
the
roads,
we're
a
cranston-based
firm,
we're
just
celebrated
our
50th
Anniversary,
as
the
mayor
mentioned.
Salsa
Coast
show,
is
the
founder
of
our
firm,
he's,
90
plus
years
old
and
still
comes
into
the
studio
to
actually
work
and
one
of
his
first
jobs
was
the
Budlong
pool.
He
has
some
fond
memories
of
it
and
he's
interesting
stories
as
well.
So
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and
be
part
of
this
project.
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Take
it
over
from
here
good
evening,
my
name
is
Mark
Mariano
I'm,
with
Western
Samson
Engineers
I'm,
a
a
team
leader
I'm,
the
leader
of
the
aquatics
division
at
Western,
Sampson
people
wonder
what
what
Aquatics
are
where
we
specialize
in
recreational
water,
anything
with
a
recirculation
pump,
pools,
fountains,
aquariums,
anything
with
a
research
pump.
So
a
little
bit
about
our
company
we've
been
around
since
1899.
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We
are
one
of
the
grandfathers
in
the
Aquatic
industry.
The
first
pool
that
Wesley
Samson
designed
was
in
1935
during
the
WPA
Administration
for
the
University
of
New
Hampshire.
Right
now
we
are
a
multi-disciplinary
firm,
we've
obviously
grown
since
1899..
We
have
approximately
850
employees
up
and
down
the
Eastern
Seaboard.
So
we
have
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
a
wealth
of
of
engineering
expertise
at
the
firm
and
just
generally,
some
some
services
that
we
provide.
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The
other
thing
we
work
on
is
that
you
know
I'm
involved
in
as
the
the
engineer
of
record
I
am
licensed
in
32
other
states.
We
work
moving
on
to
the
next
slide
star
I'm,
getting
ahead
of
myself,
just
some
aquatic
stats.
So
this
is
some
of
our
projects
that
we've
worked
on.
The
large
Splash
Tower
is
a
a
the
first
of
its
kind
in
Texas.
It's
a
it's,
a
completely
accessible
and
interactive
play
structure
and
then
you'll
see
the
the
other.
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Two
was
one
of
the
projects
that
we
did
in
weehawk
in
New
Jersey,
as
as
I
said,
just
cover
our
stats.
We
do
about
approximately
about
500
projects,
we've
done
about
over
the
last
five
years.
We've
done
about
500
projects,
working
32,
different
states
internationally
and
just
within
the
the
New
England
Community
we've
done
about
35
Major
projects,
including
five
with
the
city
of
Boston,
working
with
the
city
of
Baltimore,
to
renovate
five
facilities
in
this
city
of
Philadelphia.
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What
I
like
to
kind
of
show
on
some
of
these?
You
know!
No,
we
don't
we
take
on
any
type
of
challenge.
Actually
this
this
one
in
Needham
was
actually
built
in
a
reservoir,
so
High
groundwater,
any
type
of
challenges.
We
we
like
those
moving
on
to
the
next
slides.
So,
what's
kind
of
elaborate
a
little
bit
that
Mia
talked
about
the
existing
conditions
at
the
pool.
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So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
the
challenges
that
we
we
saw
when
we
when
we
reviewed
the
facility,
as
the
mayor
had
shown
before,
there's
a
there
was
a
hose
in
the
pool
and
that
hose
is
required
to
keep
the
pool
full.
In
order
for
this
pool
to
properly
function,
it
has
to
have
water
delivered
to
the
filtration
system
through
two
methods,
one
the
main
drains
and
two,
the
perimeter
gutter.
That's
that
stainless
steel
that
you
see
around
the
whole
perimeter.
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The
challenge
when
you
have
a
leaky
pool,
presents
a
couple
things:
one:
it's
not
enjoyable,
it's
cold,
you're,
constantly
filling
it
with
60
degree
water,
it's
impossible
to
get
the
temperature
up,
and
given
that
is
such
a
large
body
of
water,
it's
really
hard
to
get
it
warm.
It's
not
enjoyable,
two
you're
not
retaining
that
residual
that
you
need
to
keep
in
the
water
residual
is
chlorine
and
that's
the
disinfectant
that
safeguards
people
from
getting
sick
from
Gordo,
born
illnesses
so
without
having
that
residual
of
chlorine
in
the
water.
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It's
a
going
into
the
environment,
so
it's
not
properly
being
digested
and
two
you're,
not
keeping
it
in
the
pool
and
creating
a
non-compliance
situation.
Other
things
to
note
what
I
just
mentioned
about
the
gutter,
the
skimming
when
we
shot
the
gutter
with
the
with
the
survey
team,
the
gut
is
not
level
so
you're
not
continuously
skimming
around
the
whole
pool
you're
back
washing
into
a
neighboring
stream
as
the
the
mirror
had
mentioned,
which
is
not
a
compliant
thing.
The
backwash
that's
received
from
a
filter
is
considered
sewage.
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It
has
pathogens,
it
has
protozoa
that
needs
to
be
properly
disposed,
though
they
can't
go
into
a
stream.
So
that
is
one
item
that
would
need
to
be
addressed
in
the
renovation,
health
and
safety
requirements
such
as
depth,
markers,
there's,
multiple
trip
hazards
on
that
deck.
Anyone
who's
been
there
this
by
two
minutes
concrete,
which
is
pavement
around
the
entire
pool.
That's
not
an
enjoyable
situation
to
be
when
it's
on
a
hot
day
and
trying
to
go
from
the
pool
to
the
to
your
lounge
chair
or
trying
to
go
to
your
towel.
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It's
just
so
hot
plus,
it's
very
flexible.
It
moves
every
year.
They
have
to
go
in
and
fix
it.
You
can't
to
have
a
safe
and
compliant
deck.
You
can't
have
anything
more
than
a
quarter
of
an
inch
differential
and
we
have
more
than
that
in
many
places
around
this
pool
and
not
to
mention
the
pool.
Dac
itself
is
20
000
square
feet.
So
we're
looking
at
a
total
area
of
42
000
square
feet
of
of
play
surface
here
and
to
continue
on
I
mean
we.
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We
don't
meet
the
federal
guidelines
for
Virginia
Graham
Baker,
which
is
the
safety
act
for
safety
drains.
In
order
to
get
your
turnover
rate,
you
would
have
to
replace
the
entire
main
drain
system.
The
pool
does
not
meet
the
federal
guidelines
for
accessibility.
There
was
only
one
lift
you
need
to
have
two
forms
of
entry
and
even
the
forms
of
Entry
that
could
be
provided.
Don't
provide
a
a
good
experience
for
that
person.
You
know
they
would
be
isolated
to
that
specific
chair
in
the
pool
rather
than
a
zero
depth
entry.
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When
you
see
in
my
industry,
when
you
see
a
line
to
go
in-
and
this
is
what's
called
a
bag
liner
you're-
basically
going
from
gutter
line
to
go
to
line
trying
to
bag
line,
this
entire
pool
to
prevent
it
from
leaking
it's
a
Band-Aid.
At
that
point,
that
means
you
had
some
serious
underlying
issues
and
the
cost
to
fix
those
underlying
issues
is
too
great,
so
you
put
the
liner
in
and
just
hope
that
you
get
another
five
six
years
out
of
it.
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Ten
years
out
of
it
now,
what's
been
what's
been
documented
on
this
pool,
is
you
have
you?
Have
groundwater
issues
you're
you're
next
to
a
neighboring
stream?
So
you
have
high
groundwater
and
one
of
the
issues
is
you
can't
drain
the
pool
because
the
groundwater
will
actually
physically
push
that
pool
up
we'll
physically
move
that
liner
up
and
when
they
were
installing
the
liner
back
in
18?
N
They
did
have
some
some
issues
struggling
with
that
because
they
were
trying
to
get
the
liner
in
but
trying
to
prevent
the
groundwater
from
pushing
up
the
line
as
they
were
installing
it
in
the
size
of
the
pool,
I
mean
it's:
it's
22
000
square
feet
with
a
capacity
of
1250
square
feet,
1250
people
there's
really
no
other
pool
in
New
England.
That
of
that
size.
N
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
common
thing
that
we've
seen
in
the
industry
that
pools
being
this
size
because
they
really
didn't
understand
the
technology
or
the
industry
back
then
they
just
built
what
they
what
they
did,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
some
of
the
challenges
now
looking
at
it.
What
are
the
programmatic
issues
that
you
kind
of
see
at
a
pool
like
this?
N
The
pool
being
so
big
is
pretty
one-dimensional,
they're
in
in
being
a
rectangle
and
being
depths
from
two
to
nine
feet,
with
no
other
alcoves,
no
other
zero
depth.
Entry,
no
other
Play
features
you
kind
of
are
limited
in
some
of
the
programs
that
that
you
can
offer
to
the
public
and
and
being
that
you
know
you're
you're,
avoiding
the
the
need
for
a
Zero
Entry,
which
provides
different
levels
for
instructional
swimming
and
different
abilities,
providing
different
levels
for
resistance
for
people
that
are
going
into
the
water.
N
N
N
You
know
the
the
whole
site
is
very
Sunny.
There's
no
shade
out
there,
so
I
mean
if
you
want
to
get
a
great
tan.
It's
a
it's
a
great
place
to
go,
but
you
want
to
get
some
relief
from
the
Sun
at
some
point
and
it's
it's
it's
tough
to
when
you
have
a
pool
like
this,
it's
tough
to
really
promote
the
family
attendance
and
that's
one
of
the
nucleuses
that
you
want
to
keep
when
you're
designing
a
facility,
because
you
don't
have
that
zero
depth
entry,
because
you
don't
have
these
additional
features.
N
It's
difficult
when
a
mother
goes
there
with
three
kids
of
differing
ages
because
you
have
different
Play
Levels.
So
when
you
look
at
that,
you
need
to
be
able
to
address
that
or
they
just
don't
come
and
that's
where
you
have
lack
of
attendance
we
can.
We
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
the
cost
repair.
So
what
the
mayor
had
asked
us
to
do
is
to
evaluate
what
it
would
cost
to
bring
this
facility
back
into
compliance,
keeping
the
22
000
square
foot.
N
So
we
would
need
to
replace
the
filter
plant
currently
because
we
need
that
turnover
rate.
We
would
need
approximately
a
2300
gallon
per
minute
turnover
rate
to
kind
of
balance
that
that's
about
a
turnover
rate.
You
would
see
covering
about
half
a
water
park
right
now,
but
that's
what's
needed
minimal
to
keep
the
pool
within
compliance
to
keep
that
turnover
rate.
We
would
need
to
install
a
backwash
tank
and
that
backwash
tank
would
take
all
the
sewage
that's
discharged
from
the
current
filters,
store
it
and
then
slowly
pump
it
into
the
city
sewer
system.
N
We
would,
we
would
recommend
reducing
the
pool
depth
down
to
seven
six
to
seven
feet
because
of
that
groundwater
issue.
We
need
to
replace
the
perimeter
gutter.
We
would
need
to
replace
the
pool
main
drains
all
the
buried
piping
install
a
new
collector
tank.
So,
basically,
what
all
we
would
be
left
with
would
be
the
walls
and
the
floor
and
when
I
mean
the
walls,
we're
talking
about
a
foot
to
a
foot
and
a
half
of
a
wall.
N
In
order
to
build
that,
and
then
we
would
also
then
need
to
put,
in
addition
to
the
bath
house,
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
bathers
so
based
upon
Rhode
Island
Doh.
You
need
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
water,
closets
certain
amount
of
sinks
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
number
of
patrons
that
your
facility
can
handle,
because
you
cannot
handle
because
you
can
handle
1250.
We
need
the
the
infrastructure
for
that.
N
N
Moving
on
to
the
next.
So
with
with
the
mirrors
kind
of
look,
look
to
us
as
kind
of
vision,
the
future
and
you
know
to
just
to
modernize
the
pool
to
get
with
the
latest
trends
to
create
a
facility
that
will
accommodate
the
the
city.
For
the
next
40
years-
and
you
know,
one
of
the
major
things
is
creating
a
multi-generational
pool
that
provides
inclusive
play
for
all
ages
and
abilities.
That
means
anyone
can
come.
N
Anyone
can
have
the
same
amount
of
fun
and
there's
nothing
that
limits
an
individual
coming
and
having
that
fun
at
the
pool,
we're
going
to
provide
a
500,
Patron
one-time
capacity.
So
that's
500,
500
individuals
per
hour,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
reference.
That's
probably
two
rooms
of
this
size
filled
people,
which
is
a
second
from
other
people,
engineer
a
pool
that
will
give
a
40-year
lifespan,
reduce
the
amount
of
annual
maintenance,
and
that
just
will
help
the
city
with
their
their
budget.
N
Imagining
over
the
time
reduce
operational
costs,
utilizing
modern
filtration
will
help
reduce
that
operational
cost
and
just
reducing
the
size
of
the
pool
will
help
reduce
staff
requirements.
An
engineer
pool
that
has
multiple
uses
per
every
square
foot,
because
these
pools
are
so
expensive
to
build.
You
need
to
maximize
every
square
foot
of
that
pool,
so
it's
taking
every
square
foot
and
using
it
from
multiple
programs
going
on
to
the
next
slide.
N
This
will
help
Fosters
swim
lessons
in
aerobics,
so
an
example
of
zero
depth
entry.
We
did
a
project
for
the
city
of
Winooski
Vermont,
it's
a
smaller
community
yeah
right
outside
of
Burlington
they
in
the
early
2000s.
They
were
a
sudanian
refugee
settlement
and
one
of
the
biggest
tasks
that
they
had
were
when
the
refugees
came.
N
The
pool
as
you'll
see
in
further
slides
this
pool
is
a
progression,
so
you
start
at
the
Zero
Entry
as
a
young
kid,
and
you
make
your
way
all
the
way
down
to
the
deep
end,
and
this
will
allow
areas
for
for
10
where
we
also
wanted
to
create
an
area
where
10
to
14
year
olds,
where
there's
a
little
bit
more
aggressive,
play
to
have
that
space
and
not
be
influencing
younger
kids
and
and
allow
adults
to
have
their
own
space.
So
we
can
kind
of
show
that
in
the
future
coming
up.
N
But
what
we
were
tasked
to
do
is
also
look
at
a
project
budget
of
3.5
million
and
again
40-year
lifespan
excite
it's
a
program
overview,
so
starting
from
the
left
to
the
right.
We
have
our
lap
swimming
so
we'll
have
three
lap
lanes
and
we'll
have
depths
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
going
deeper
North
that
will
start
at
four
feet
there
and
we'll
end
up
at
six
feet
at
the
end.
N
That
will
be
your
lap
swimming
that
will
be
used
for
other
swim
programs
and,
as
we
move
down
going
to
the
right,
we'll
have
the
up
the
second
Cove,
which
is
a
bench
and
then
we'll
have
another
Cove
underneath
the
awning
that
will
provide
shade,
which
will
have
another
bench.
So
those
will
be
two
areas
of
either
Leisure
or
it
can
be
used
for
aerobics.
Those.
N
Those
bold
areas
are
perfect
for
aerobic
programs
to
be
able
to
use
the
bench
to
you
know,
sit
on
to
for
for
a
little
bit
of
resistance
or
even
for
balancing,
but
it
also
creates
a
niche
where
they
can
still
have
other
people
playing
and
other
programs
happening,
and
it's
not
happening
directly.
Center
in
the
pool,
then,
as
you
move
up
the
ramp
you're
going
well
in
the
center
part
of
the
pool.
This
is
that
10
to
14
year
old
age,
so
there
may
be
a
basketball
net
there.
N
The
car
was
an
innovation
right.
It
changed
the
way
we
we
approached
everything
and
but
they
didn't
continue
to
make
model
T's
today,
because
the
technology
has
advanced
and
that's
what
we're
well.
This
is
what
I'm
showing
here
you
have
the
pool
from
1938,
and
that
was
the
latest
technology.
We
need
to
adapt
to
today's
technology.
I
mean
we
have
cars
that
drive
themselves
now,
so
it
just
shows
the
the
the
evolution
of
the
Aquatic
industry
in
being
able
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
recreate
moving
over
to
Michael.
E
I'm
gonna
have
a
brief
conversation
about
the
pool
house
itself:
the
existing
pool
house.
The
conditions
are
that
there
is
no
Ada
accessibility
in
the
building.
The
mechanical
and
the
Plumbing
Systems
need
to
be
updated
or
replaced
they're.
The
masonry
at
some
parts
in
some
of
the
tunnel
and
entrances
along
with
some
of
the
stone
work
needs
to
be
updated.
The
roof
does
need
to
have
some
areas
that
need
repair
lighting
needs
to
be
replaced
on
the
interior
and
exterior,
as
well
as
some
of
the
finishes
on
the
interior.
As
we
were
talking
about
before.
E
There
are
a
bunch
of
materials
that
need
to
be
abated,
whether
it's
lead
paint
or
asbestos
that
are
in
there.
The
mechanical
room
has
water
penetration.
There
are
various
Life
Safety
problems
that
are
in
the
building
that
need
to
be
addressed
and,
as
we
were
talking
about
before,
we
have
a
facility
that
can
do
500
people.
That
means
that
we
have
to
have
the
water,
closets
and
sinks
to
be
able
to
meet
that
people
and
right
now
that
facility
doesn't
have
it
thanks.
E
As
you
can
see,
we
only
have
well
for
the
women
we
have
two
showers
and
one
toilet
with
also
some
shared
toilets
on
in
this
in
the
center.
Just
not
enough
for
the
patrons
that
we
want
to
have.
If
we
have.
If
we
want
to
have
a
capacity
of
500
people,
the
solution
would
be
in
pink.
We
would
be
extending
into
some
of
the
areas
that
are
now
storage.
We
would
have
enough
ADA
compliance
for
showers
and
toilet
areas.
The
blue
is
the
men's
side.
E
Each
side
has
their
own
entrance
from
the
outside
and
the
yellow
areas
at
the
top.
Those
are
family
and
unisex
bathrooms
that
can
be
accessed
from
the
outside,
above
that
yellow
area
is
also
outdoor
showers
to
be
able
to
rinse
off
and
various
storage
areas
and
a
drinking
fountain,
some
other
amenities.
E
N
So
I
mean
to
to
kind
of
wrap,
wrap
up
the
the
technical
presentation,
the
just
to
kind
of
compare.
You
know
we,
we
were
asked
to
evaluate
what
the
cost
would
be
to
repair
the
existing
pool,
and
that
was
around
5
million,
giving
it
a
10-year
lifespan
the
cost,
to
replace
the
pool
in
its
entirety.
We're
looking
at
three
to
three
point:
five
million
with
a
40-year
lifespan
and
the
reason
the
reason
that
that
5
million
is
there
is
just
based
upon
the
virtue
of
the
size
of
it.
C
B
F
B
I
B
B
The
clerk
will
be
keeping
a
time
so
just
trying
to
be
mindful
of
others,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
to
cut
you
off,
but
we
may
have
to
given
the
volume
and
the
other
thing
I
do
just
want
to
issue.
As
a
reminder,
it's
a
good
reminder
to
us
all
to
please
remember,
even
if
someone
is
saying
something
that
you
disagree
with
It's
always
important
to
adhere
to
the
same
rule
that
you
tell
your
children
treat
everyone
with
respect.
B
B
P
P
D
D
P
The
other
thing
is
that
Cranston
Budlong
pool
has
been
the
third
place
that
we've
all
gone
to
congregate
in
the
Summers,
an
excellent
place
to
be
sociable
without
planning
something
you
just
run
into
people's
like
how
you
doing
hey
the
let's
see
what
else
we
got
here.
I
did
have
a
question
on
how
and
who,
and
how
was
the
occupancy
counted?
D
P
A
P
N
P
Right
and
the
the
it
sounds
like
the
the
demand,
the
driving
force,
to
get
it.
The
the
square
footage
of
the
pool
down
to
seven
thousand
feet,
or
whatever
it
is,
is
that
you
have
to
have
accommodations
in
the
pool
house
for
as
many
people
as
could
possibly
be
in
that
pool
at
any
one
time.
Is
that
correct
that.
B
You
can
you
can
submit
them
to
the
clerk
you
can
email,
those
into
into
the
clerk.
Okay.
I
will
defer
to
the
solicitor
on
this
question
going
forward
for
the
public
comment
as
a
point
of
order
to
the
solicitor.
Should
we
be
allowing
the
public
to
comment
for
their
two
minutes
present
their
questions
and
then
once
that's
complete,
then
have
the
the
mayor
answer
or
or
his
Representatives
answer
the
questions.
What's
the
proper
format
legally
for
the
response,
Madam.
R
D
C
T
Hi
good
evening,
Angela
Molino,
96,
Shirley
Boulevard
I
just
had
two
questions:
the
graph
that
you
showed.
They
indicated
that
the
peak
times
there
was
an
escalation
or
an
increase
in
the
you
know,
amount
of
people
that
were
using
the
pool
at
those
peak
times.
So
over
the
course
of
the
three
years
that
you
showed
there
was
a
slight
increase
so
with
the
Summer's
getting
hotter
I
mean
even
tomorrow,
kids
are
getting
out
of
school
early
because
of
the
heat.
T
U
V
T
N
So
so
hit
by
by
with
our
current
design
in
a
potential
additional
Splash
by,
we
still
have
additional
space
to
add
another
body
of
water
in
the
event
that,
let's
say
we're
looking
at
attendance
numbers
of
700,
let's
say
we're
looking
at
tangent
numbers
of
maxing
out
and
you
got
people
waiting
at
the
gate,
I
mean
that's
showing
that
there's
a
demand
right
and
city
council
looks
at
that.
Mail
looks
at
that
and
they
want
to
address
that.
We
would
still
have
accommodate
the
be
able
to
accommodate
the
space.
For
for
that.
T
W
Hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
Harrison
Tuttle.
My
address
is
131
Belmont
Road
just
had
a
quick
question
about
the
repair
and
the
cost
and
so
listed
in
the
PowerPoint.
It
said
that
to
repair
the
complete
pool
in
full,
it
would
cost
five
million
dollars
to
remodel
the
pool
with
the
presentation
that
you
had,
it
would
go
from
anywhere
from
3
million
to
3.5
I.
Believe.
W
N
So
what
we
evaluated
was
the
5
million
was
renovating
the
pool
in
the
current
shape
current
size.
It
is
the
driving
Factor
behind
that
being
more
money
than
complete
replacement
and
a
new
pool
is
just
based
upon
the
virtue
of
the
size
of
the
work
that
has
to
occur
now
we're
looking
at
you
know:
repairs
of
22
000
square
feet
of
concrete,
rather
than
a
new
concrete
shell
of
seven
thousand
square
feet.
W
I,
just
have
one
more
question:
go
ahead,
so
when
I
was
a
teenager,
I
was
a
counselor
for
the
Cranston
Parks
and
Rec
program,
and
so
oftentimes.
We
would
go
to
the
swimming
pool
multiple
times
a
week
and
found
the
flexibility
of
being
able
to
be
in
the
middle
Zone
and
the
deep
end,
and
the
short
gave
a
lot
of
kids
from
different
age
groups
and
different
level
of
being
able
to
swim
an
opportunity
when
I
looked
at
the
model.
I
was
a
little
concerned
with
how
almost
it
feels
narrow.
W
The
the
deep
end
looks
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
pool.
Is
there?
Is
it
maybe
just
the
model
that
I'm
looking
at?
That
makes
it
look
really
narrow
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
pool,
and
would
there
be
any
consideration
to
maybe
expand
the
deep
end
to
kind
of
Encompass
more
folks
to
be
able
to
swim
over
there?
W
N
The
the
model
that
you
saw
is
the
same
width
of
the
pool.
That's
found
there
today
the
to
grow
a
pool.
Obviously,
as
we
kind
of
gone
through
this
analysis,
does
that
cost
does
add
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things.
It's
something
we
can
evaluate.
We
can
take
a
look
at
given
your
experience
of
what
you
just
said.
It's
this
is
what's
important
for
you
to
relay
that
information
to
us.
So
it's
something
that
we'll
take
a
look
at
and
we'll
evaluate.
W
Go
ahead,
you
sure
I'm
positive,
all
right,
I,
just
I
see
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
between
the
council
and
the
mayor.
Administration
I
think
you
know.
I
want
to
speak
for
everybody,
but
like
it's,
not
the
best.
Look
for
the
city
of
Cranston
in
general
and
I
was
wondering
with
this
proposal
with
both
sides
being
in
opposition.
Is
there
any
way
that
there
could
be
a
compromise,
or
is
it
just
one
way
or
nothing
at
all?.
D
D
My
plan
is
to
do
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city.
That's
what
I
get
paid
to
do.
If
the
council
wants
to
disagree
with
me
on
that,
that's
their
prerogative!
That's
why
we
have
that
checks
and
balances,
but
I
would
be
willing
to
work
with
anybody
to
make
sure
that
our
kids
are
in
a
pool
next
summer.
Q
Q
Q
Yes,
sir,
okay
and
my
question
is
Mayor
Hopkins.
We
are
learning
that
you've
kept
your
plans
from
the
council
for
around
two
years
your
staff
were
told
to
keep
quiet
to
not
quote
unquote,
cause
distractions,
and
you
refuse
to
tell
the
council
the
details
before
this
meeting
or
to
coordinate,
so
the
counselors
could
have
could
all
be
here
without
violating
open
meeting
laws.
Q
D
D
U
The
context
if
I
recall,
first
of
all,
you
took
a
completely
out
of
context.
It
was
an
internal
email
to
the
chief
engineer
in
the
in
the
Parks
and
Recreation
director
to
look
into
the
feasibility
of
capital
items,
Tennis
Courts
at
Cranston
West
in
improvements
to
the
bunland
pool,
so
it
was
under
the
it
was,
as
this
was
I
believe
I
use
the
word
investigatory.
You
keep
the
confidential
until
the
decision
is
made.
That's
very
typical
that
happens
in
government
every
single
day.
C
X
X
It
seems
well
thought
through.
It
seems
designed
to
meet
a
lot
of
different
needs
in
an
economical
way
and
I
have
to
say
that
that
this
is
a
turnaround
for
me,
because,
prior
to
this
meeting,
I
was
under
the
impression
that
we
were
facing
the
loss
of
the
pool
and
its
replacement
with
a
splash
pad
and
I
I
am
guilty
of
not
having
done
enough
due
diligence
to
really
understand
the
plan,
although
it
seems
like
it
was
also
hard
to
get
to
that
information.
X
So
I
feel
like
I,
owe
the
mayor
an
apology
for
not
understanding
what
was
going
on
until
tonight
and
and
I'm
actually
in
favor
of
this
design.
So
I
want
to
say
that,
and
secondly,
I'm
a
lab
swimmer
and
right
now,
I
hike
down
to
Warwick
to
go
lab
swimming
and
I
would
just
love
to
not
have
to
do
that
in
the
summer.
X
So,
looking
at
that
design
for
lap
swimmers
I
just
quickly
Googled
what
the
ideal
specifications
are
for
lab
swimming,
it
says
for
a
short
course
laps
for
for
lab
swears.
It
should
be
75
feet
long
and
at
least
60
feet
in
width
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
lanes
that
that
encompasses,
but
they
also
say
that
a
preferred
minimum
depth
is
seven
feet.
That's
six
feet,
so
just
throwing
that
out,
I
would
really
love
to
have
a
place
to
lap
swim
here
locally.
Sure.
Thank
you.
N
N
Y
Good
evening
my
name
is
Nicole.
Nunes
I
live
at
seven
ruxton
Street
in
Cranston
I
have
a
few
questions.
The
first
was
has
the
plan
proposed
that
was
shown
today
looked
at
how
to
use
the
space
of
the
card,
but
long
pool
facility
most
effectively
to
accommodate
the
most
people.
I
know
it
was
presented
at
500.
Is
that
500
the
most
that
that
space
can
incur
understanding?
There
has
to
be
Restorations
done
to
both
the
building
and
the
remodeling
of
the
pool
over.
N
So
when
we,
when
we
were
evaluating
this
facility,
when
we
first
started
working
with
the
mayor
in
the
staff,
we
had
the
attendance
records,
we
saw
what
the
historical
nature
was
of
the
pool.
We
have
a
pool
that
can
accommodate
a
ton
of
people
so
based
on
our
experience,
you
know
in
a
community
of
this
size,
you're
averaging,
you
typically
look
to
a
facility
that
would
accommodate
about
three
to
four
hundred
people.
The
mayor
wanted
to
go
a
little
bit
larger
than
that.
N
This
kind
of
parlays
on
another
question
that
someone
had
asked
earlier
is
the
possibility
if
we
are
at
capacity
to
to
expand
when
we
looked
at
the
pool.
Obviously
we
have
22
000
square
feet
of
pool.
We
have
20
000
square
feet
of
deck.
What
we
did
is
we're.
We
were
maximizing,
pushing
the
pool
closest
to
the
building
maximizing
that
footprint.
N
Where
the
pool
is
today,
then
we
would
have
if
we
had
the
budget
and
if
we
have
the
demand
splash
pad
and
if
we
need
more
than
that,
there
still
is
additional
law
and
beyond
that
which
still
Falls
within
the
same
footprint.
That's
found
there
today
and
that's
that's
just
based
on
the
demand
and
what
what
the
city
will
see.
Y
N
Target
target
age
group
that
we'd
like
to
see
at
this
facility,
you're
you're,
let's
say
the
median
age
group-
is
around
10
12.,
all
right,
that's
where,
where
kids
are
more
independent,
they
come
here
with
groupings
of
friends
with
a
with
a
family
member
or
a
friend
of
a
family
member,
and
that's
also
when
you
have
camps
here
as
well.
That's
the
target
age
group.
You
know
where
you
see
the
highest
number
of
individuals
per
day.
What
we
don't,
what
we
don't
have
it's
it's
all,
it's
very
difficult
to
have.
N
Y
So
understood
understood
that
you
don't
have
kind
of
that
fact
that
information,
however
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
in
a
consideration
for
design,
maybe
expanding
kind
of
that
rough
area
that
you
were
talking
about
from
personal
experience.
I
don't
have
the
facts
to
back
it
up,
but
while
they
are
right,
I
do
see
kind
of
more
between
16
17
or
more
kind
of
a
high
school
age
right
you
can't
drive,
so
you
can
walk
or
bike.
Z
Good
evening
my
name
is
Connor:
Mathis
I
live
at
31,
Imperial
Ave
and
my
question
is
the
3.3
to
3.5
million
dollar
estimate
for
the
new
pool
design.
I
was
curious
if
there
was
an
estimate
for
how
much
the
splash
pad
installation
would
cost.
Assuming
that
happens
and
would
Splash
Pad
installation
happen
in
the
off
season
of
the
pool
or
would
that
happen
during
use
the
summer
months.
N
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Excuse
me,
sir
I'd,
like
to
answer
one
question
you
had
asked
about
splash
pads.
Yes,
we
put
the
first
one
in
the
history
of
the
city
in
this
year,
yeah
behind
Bane
yep.
The
cost
of
that
was
Full.
Construction
was
350,
000.,
okay,
we're
talking
about.
If
we
want
to
go
in
that
direction,
if
there's
a
demand
for
it,
it
would
be
probably
less
than
that,
because
we've
already
will
already
have
the
infrastructure.
AA
D
Based
on
what
we
did
this
year,
the
first
time
we
tried
it,
we
had
two
people
working
over
there,
they
would
rotate
and
then
basically
they
were
supervisors.
You
don't
need
lifeguards.
The
recreation
director
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
there
making
sure
that
the
pump
systems
worked
properly
and
they're.
Actually
there
this
week
putting
the
fencing
around
it
doing
the
finishing
work,
yeah.
N
So
I
can
kind
of
touch
base
on
that
so
to
to
a
continue
on
with
what
Amir
said.
Historically,
in
the
Aquatic
industry,
splash
pads
do
costs
less
to
operate
because
a
you
don't
have
as
many
staff
members
there.
You
have
less
water
that
you
have
to
treat.
You
have
a
smaller
filtration
system.
You
don't
have
deep
bodies
of
water,
you
don't
have
to
Winter,
you
do
have
to
winterize,
but
it's
not
as
invasive
as
a
regular
pool
to
comment
on
the
health
issues
regarding
the
splash
pad.
N
There
are
health
issues,
yes,
but
what
we
do
is
they're
safeguarded
with
UV
and
typical.
So
the
state
of
Rhode
Island
is
a
model
aquatic
health
code
and
then
one
of
the
first
ones
in
the
nation
to
actually
adopt
that
and
it's
a
very
evolved
code.
It
pretty
much
Blends
all
the
codes
around
the
state
around
the
country
into
one
one
code
and
it
was
developed
by
a
bunch
of
aquatic
Engineers
that
have
experiences.
N
So
one
of
the
requirements
is
to
have
ultraviolet
light
on
on
a
splash
pad
which
safeguards
so
basically
when
the
water
is
brought
to
the
pad,
it
runs
through
that
and
it
kills
99.99
of
any
pathogens,
including
cryptosporidium,
which
is
a
chlorine
resistant
thing.
So
those
are
the
safeguards
that
we
typically
put
in
at
the
splash
pad
that
they
have.
Currently
they
have
that
as
well.
Okay
and.
AA
N
AA
AA
D
Again,
it
has
to
meet
State
Standards
to
the
health
department
I.
One
of
the
initial
concerns
I
had
was
we
putting
the
proper
chemicals
into
a
pool,
that's
constantly
being
filled
up
with
water?
That
was
one
of
my
original
concerns
as
to
why
we
shouldn't
open
it,
and
we
should
do
more
investigation
before
we
go
in
that
direction.
D
G
I'm
sorry,
my
name
is
Alan
Reyes
I
live
at
10,
Chestnut
Avenue.
So
my
real
question
is
I.
We
saw
some
of
those
models
and
had
the
current
property.
There
really
isn't
much
Street
coverage
right
now,
there's
maybe
like
five
little
trees
on
the
side
of
the
pool
and
then
in
some
of
those
models
as
well.
We
saw
that
there's
going
to
be
pergolas
but,
like,
let's
be
honest,
programmers
don't
really
provide
any
real
shade
or
protection
from
the
Sun.
G
Yeah
I
apologize.
Can
you
still
hear
me
all
right,
I,
I'm,
so
sorry
yeah,
so
that
my
question
is
what
is
the
real
plan
to
provide
additional
tree
coverage?
If
there
is
one
is
the
only
Shade,
that's
going
to
be
provided
going
to
be
the
pergolas
or
the
little
bit
of
the
awning
over
the
pool?
And
then
my
second
question
would
be:
is
there
any
other
plans
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
parking
lot
to
accommodate
any
like
the
splash
pad
or
anything?
G
Because,
right
now,
when
you
go
there,
it's
just
like
standing
in
the
middle
of
a
concrete
Island.
So
that
seems
to
be
like
kind
of
a
concern
of
mine,
for
example,
and
then
as
well.
I
know
that
you
guys
mentioned
that
there
is
some
regulations
when
it
comes
to
the
Splash
Pad
but,
for
example,
the
city
of
Central
Falls
recently
installed
one
at
Veterans,
Park
Memorial,
and
when
you
go
there,
for
example,
it
doesn't
constantly
work.
It's
not
on
all
the
time.
G
N
So
to
to
answer
your
second
question
in
the
Aquatic
industry,
there's
two
types
of
splash
pads:
one
is
a
recirculation
system
and
two
is
a
spray
to
drain
what
you,
the,
what
you
would
just
described,
is
likely
to
spray
to
drain
so
they're,
just
taking
drinking
water
spraying
it
up
and
then
putting
it
to
the
drain,
and
it's
going
to
waste.
That's
why
you
see
the
alternating.
In
this
case
we
would
be
recirculating
the
system
which
is
a
more
green
and
effective
way
of
of
treating
the
water.
C
L
AB
My
name
is
Sandy
pliskin
Sanford
pliskin
I
live
at
314
Magnolia
Street
I'm
new
to
town
I've
lived
here
less
than
a
year
and
I've
been
wanting
to
find
out
about
this.
This
community
that
I
live
in
and
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
got
to
do
is
I
discovered
that
my
city
councilor,
was
somebody
who
I
knew
from
other
public
advocacy
in
the
past.
AB
AB
N
You
so
to
comment
on
the
non-compliance
that
we
encountered
at
the
pool,
it's
I
hate
to
say
it's
pretty
common
that
we
encounter
these
things
in
this
industry,
you're
dealing
with
facilities
that
were
built
prior
to
codes.
Even
developing.
You
know
you
talk
in
1938,
they
didn't
have
a
building
code
in
the
state
of
Rhode
Island.
They
didn't
have
pool
code
till
the
70s
and
some
of
the
practices
that
they
did
just
kind
of
show.
N
C
AC
C
C
AC
D
AC
D
Keep
in
mind,
sir,
that
we
didn't
have
a
finance
director
for
a
long
period
of
time,
and
then
we
did
bring
one
in.
Finally,
it
was
approved.
My
chief
of
staff
is
also
a
CPA
and
I
have
asked
him.
Those
similar
questions
that
you're
asking
and
if
you'd
like
I'll,
ask
him
to
answer
some
of
those
great.
U
AD
Just
good
evening,
my
name
is
Patrick
Shelton
I
live
in
1921
Broad
Street
in
Cranston.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
To
follow
up
to
just
again
ask
his
question.
He
was
wondering
why
the
the
slideshow
presentation
wasn't
shared
before
the
meeting.
If
that
could
be
actually
that'd,
be
good.
AD
I
think
you
know
we.
We
saw
presentations
this
evening
of
the
current
conditions
of
the
pool
and
I
think
you
know.
Obviously,
after
four
years
of
of
not
being
used,
it's
fall
into
disrepair
even
before
in
2019.
It
needed
work.
I.
Think,
there's
no
question
at
all.
You'll
not
hear
any
there's
no
debate
about
what
that
the
pool
needs
to
be
repaired.
It's
just
in
what
fashion
and
I
think
you
know
even
listening.
AD
You
know
the
FDR
Administration,
while
speaking
in
a
beautifully
renovated
Auditorium
that
was
built
in
the
Coolidge,
Administration
and
I.
Just
think
that
it's
just
you
know,
I
I
think
it
can
be
done.
You
can
there's
a
way
to
to
to
to
to
repair
the
the
the
the
the
the
pool
and
finally,
I
I
was
under
the
impression
that
that
the
Federal
Hill
Group,
which
was
I
I,
know
you
married.
You
spoke
about
speaking
to
all
these
different
experts
and
I
was
if
I,
wouldn't
I
would
really
appreciate
it
as
a
citizen
of
Cranston.
AD
If
you
would
be
willing
to
publish
those
findings
of
those
different
groups,
this
is
one
that
we're
hearing
from
this
evening,
but
perhaps
maybe
Post
online.
The
different
proposals
from
the
different
groups,
because
my
I
was
under
the
impression
that
that
the
Federal
Hill
group
came
up
with
a
a
plan
that
would
be
cheaper
to
re
to
to
to
repair
the
the
the
pool
in
its
current
state
versus
repairing.
AE
AE
That's
what's
lost
in
all
of
this
now
I
have
a
couple
of
Articles
here:
I'd
love
to
weave
them.
In
case
people
haven't
seen
them
from
the
New
York
Times.
Why
we
need
more
public
pools
and
they
speak
as
you
might
expect
to
climate
change.
They
also
speak
to
racism
because
the
trend
isn't
towards
smaller
pools.
It's
toward
larger
pools,
incorporating
even
entire
rivers
and
lakes
for
municipal
use
and
being
there
I
know
who
used
the
pool.
AE
It
was
truly
a
cross-section
of
this
city
and
a
lot
of
people
can't
get
to
the
beach
and
have
no
access
to
private
pools
and
it's
very
unfortunate,
that's
been
lost.
My
question
has
to
do
with
parking
whether
the
facility
shrinks
by
two-thirds
a
number
of
500
people
a
day
speaks
to
a
huge
imposition
on
that
section
of
town,
and
there
isn't
room
unless
you
get
rid
of
the
basketball
half
courts
and
the
maybe
the
baseball
field
to
park
I
mean
we're
a
500
people
going
to
park.
Thank.
AE
D
N
You
so
a
publication
if
you
wanted
to
to
take
a
look
at
it
is
aquatic
International,
it's
it's
actually
a
free
magazine
and
it
it's
put
out
by
aquatic
engineers
and
Aquatic
Consultants
that
primarily
work
with
that,
and
that's
that's
a
really
good
guide
too.
If
you
want
to
see
like
the
track
current
trends
next
speaker,
please.
M
M
C
N
To
kind
of
evaluate
on
that,
Weston
Sampson
also
has
a
division
that
builds
pools
so
we're
able
to
get
the
actual
market
value
of
those
repairs
in
current
standards.
One
thing
that
people
always
look
at
this
and
they
say
well:
why
is
it
so
expensive?
You
know
this.
There's
there's
prevailing
wage
rates
in
the
state
of
Rhode
Island,
there's
bonds,
there's
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
that
are
accommodating
with
a
with
a
public
project.
AF
How
you
doing
folks,
Rick
and
Rocky
59
Brian,
wrote
crankson.
So
two
minutes
I
got
a
lot.
You
know
kind
of
thoughts
on
my
head.
So
four
years
been
closed.
My
son
myself
used
that
pool
almost
every
day
and
now
it's
been
closed.
You
say
covid
in
2021
I
can
almost
promise
you
that's
not
really
a
legitimate
reason
why
it
was
closed
in
the
Sun
it
will
vaccinated.
Everyone
came
you
know.
AF
AF
So,
moving
on,
if
I
wanted,
a
new
pool
and
I
wanted
that
clueless
I
would
have
filed
this
blueprint,
exactly
keep
it
in
disrepair
for
two
years
and
then
come
with
this
plan.
Yeah
all
right,
that's
exactly
what
I
would
have
done.
Let
it
fall
apart
and
come
down
and
say
this
is
what
we
got
to
do,
it's
all
about
dollars
and
cents.
How
you
want
to
spend
your
parks
and
rent
money.
AF
I
got
it,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
can
be
spent
on,
but
this
is
where
it's
going.
You
got
five
million
dollars.
You've
got
a
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
plan.
I
got
it
million
million
five.
You
got
you
there's.
There's
got
to
be
some
compromise
here
from
the
Town
Council
and
from
you
the
the
plan
looks
at
it.
You
you're
missing
a
diving
area
for
the
kids
there's
nowhere
for
these
kids
to
jump
into
the
pool
head.
First,
you
got
a
lap
Lane
you're
accommodating
those
people
that
want
to
swim.
AF
But
you
know
you
got
a
16
year
old,
that's
gonna!
What
jump
in
feet!
First,
all
the
time
is
one
kid's
gonna
jump
up
in
that
pool,
that's
six
feet
and
break
their
neck,
and
then,
where
are
you
gonna?
Be
you
don't
even
they
like
and
forget
about
the
splash
pads?
Those
are
the
the
like
that
doesn't
even
teach
a
life
skill
of
swimming.
You
got
kids
flashing
around
you
used
to
live
on
Fox
Point
and
over
by
Gregorian
Elementary
School
Splash
Pad,
satin
bacon.
AF
AF
A
How
you
doing
Dave
desano,
18
gray,
Avenue
Cranston
I've,
been
in
the
state
for
30
years,
my
wife's
a
lifelong
resident.
My
children
grew
up
in
the
city,
they
have
their
own
children
out,
I
just
want
to
say
Mr
Hopkins,
Mr,
Mayor
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
years
of
dedicated
service
I'm
a
fan
of
yours,
but
I.
Don't
think
it's
right.
A
How
you
didn't
include
the
city
and
Council
and
your
plans
you
just
kind
of
drop
everything
on
them
and
they
say
you
see
the
my
way
of
the
highway
I
think
there
should
be
more
of
a
partnership
between
you
and
the
council,
but
other
than
that.
There's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
to
see
I
need
a
little
helper
I
think
you
are
doing
a
good
job.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
Thank.
V
V
V
N
We
didn't,
we
didn't
evaluate
the
financial
aspect
because
we
typically
don't
we
we
look
at
what
the
the
actual
evidence
is
of
what
you're
leaking
now
20
gallons
a
minute
is
based
upon
the
hose
that
was
found
there
right
on
average,
that's
actually
low
at
a
two
inch
hose
weight,
you're
going
to
get
about
60
gallons
a
minute,
so
that's
turning
it
on
and
off
throughout
the
day.
What.
N
V
V
V
N
It
off
so
in
the
current
conditions
that
I
saw
it
in
and
when
we
when
we
use
the
surveyor
to
shoot
the
top
perimeter
of
the
gutter.
So
when
you
have
that
gutter,
the
water
has
to
overspill
that
edge
around
the
perimeter,
the
the
pool
wasn't
level,
so
you
have
to
put
a
certain
amount
of
water
to
be
able
to
get
that
in
there.
That's
that's
item
number
one
now
addressing
the
water
loss.
N
B
AG
B
And
if
I'm-
and
he
has
a
knowledge
and
expertise,
particularly
poignant
to
the
subject,
rather
than
relying
on
what
you
were
told,
he
was
the
actual
director
in
the
Years
leading
up
to
the
operation
of
the
pool
where
it
was
then
closed.
So
as
a
council
president
I'm
going
to
allow
Mr
liberatory
to
continue
until
until
I,
say,
Mr,
Liberator
I
think
you
can.
Thank
you
I'll
make
it
true.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
N
N
V
N
No
I
know
I
know
in
in
you
know
me,
you
and
I
were
involved.
I
would
be
able
to.
We
would
be
able
to
talk,
but
that's
what
I'm
saying
is.
That
is
that
we
don't
have
that
turnover
rate,
because
we
didn't
the
the
equipment
that
I
reviewed.
Doesn't
it's
impossible
to
do
it?
You
can
only
get
a
certain
amount
of
flow
out
of
out
of
a
40
horsepower
pump.
You
can
only
put
a
certain
amount
of
water
through
a
10
inch
pipe.
V
Maya
Hopkins
put
up
the
water
bills
yep,
but
all
the
numbers
we
throw
out
of
our
Bud
along
pool
and
the
leakage
and
how
much
it
cost
us
I
didn't,
would
surprise
everybody
if
they
pull
the
records
from
2019
our
last
year
of
operation
May
to
June,
we
paid
five
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
for
water
June
to
July.
We
paid
forty
four
hundred
dollars
for
the
month,
July
to
closing.
In
August
we
paid
40
500
a
month.
V
You
take
those
numbers
and
divide
them
by
three
thousand
twenty
two
cents,
the
water
rate.
At
that
time
we
average
1400
gallons
a
month,
that's
back
washing
out
of
an
18
inch
or
whatever
pipe.
It
is
into
the
river,
which
should
be
noted
with
g
e
M's
approval
so
long
as
the
chlorine
level
and
that
water
being
back
washed
is
at
zero.
N
That
that
is
an
issue
in
in
operation,
though
you
need
to
continuously
have
residual
in
the
pool
under
current
code
under
under
the
current
model
aquatic
health
code,
you
need
to
always
carry
a
residual
of
one
to
three
parts
per
million
in
the
pool
at
any
time.
The
reason
you
do
that
is
I
had
mentioned
before
cryptosporidium
cryptosporidium
is,
is
a
protozoa
that
it's
a
really
really
hard
thing
for
chlorine
to
kill.
It
almost
takes
10
days
for
that
chlorine
to
kill
it.
N
N
If
you,
if
you
maintain
the
pool
without
residual
and
you're,
not
turning
the
pool
over
in
a
six
hour
period,
that
means
we're
not
providing
the
residual
that
the
city
in
the
state
require
it's.
It's
like
I
said
it's,
not
it's
not
an
ideal
situation
to
be
in
to
operate
and
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
mean
you
had
a
system
you
had
to
deal
with
right.
It's
not
that
you
had
millions
of
dollars
to
come
in
and
renovate
that
per
year.
N
Were
I
think,
there's
a
there's,
there's
there's
a
there's
a
number
here
that
might
be
missing.
Usually
water
bills
are
evaluated
per
thousand
gallons,
seen
it
again
so
so
like
when
I.
Is
that
correct?
But
it's
like
cubic
feet
or
something.
So
there
is
a
conversion
factor
that
might
be
different
here,
but
so
historically,
when
I
look
at
pools
and
I
see
how
much
they're
spending
on
water?
How
much
you
so
some
facilities
don't
monitor
because
they're
they
have
their
own
water
system.
So
it's
you
know
they're
going
to
bill
each
other.
N
V
N
V
The
thing
about
the
leakage,
that's
what
bothers
me
more
than
anything
else,
if
we
were
in
fact
losing
all
that
water,
why
is
this
so
seven
feet
of
water
in
that
pool?
Let
me
let
me
just
go
a
little
bit
further,
whether
it's
a
cement
or
comes
Larry,
concrete
wall
and
platform
or
concrete
with
the
liner.
N
I
believe
you're
losing
the
water
is
through
your
piping
and
infrastructure
system
through
your
main
drain,
going
through
everything
that
you
have
in
any
of
these
Renovations,
no
one
ever
addressed
the
main
drain
piping,
which
is
the
piping
at
the
bottom
of
the
pool
that
connects
it
to
the
main
drain.
That
then
connects
it
to
the
filtration
system,
and
when
you
see
that
rate
of
loss,
that's
likely
where
it
is,
you
guys
buy
a
liner.
You
put
the
liner
in
the
pool.
N
It's
industry
standard
to
have
hydrostatic
relief
valves
in
the
bottom
of
the
pool
they're
in
the
bottom
of
those
main
drains.
A
little
valves
and
there's
a
spring
in
that
valve
that
valve
that
spring
is
sized
to
be
able
to
uplift
when
there's
a
differential
pressure.
So
when
you
drain
that
pool
you're
going
to
see
water
coming
in
through
the
through
the
ground
into
that,
so
the
pool
doesn't
lift
up
out
of.
N
V
N
N
V
N
So
so,
at
some
point,
that
valve
was
open
to
a
point
to
where
it
equalized
with
the
groundwater.
Now
you
go
back
there
at
different
points
out
the
throughout
the
year
that
water
is
going
to
be
lower
or
it's
going
to
be
higher,
and
it's
all
based
upon
the
groundwater,
which
indicates
that
you
have
to
deal
with
groundwater
at.
V
This
excellent
point:
that's
why
I
picked
in
your
report.
You
said
there
was
an
obstruction
in
the
liner
in
the
deep
end,
yeah
okay,
that
is
two
pieces
of
pipe
coming
from
the
apron
down
the
wall
behind
the
line
and
up
the
wall
at
the
middle
of
the
deep
end
under
the
asphalt
goes
into
the
pump
house
where
there
is
a
pump
when
that
valve.
Let's
go,
however,
you
want
to
term
and
I'm
not
an
engineer
that
pump
kicks
on.
It
puts
the
Water
full
to
the
back
of
the
building,
so.
N
V
V
V
I
I
I
N
Day,
it
wouldn't
be
I
I
think
it
would
be
sometime
next
summer,
even
if
it's
four
weeks
it
is
a
lot
of
uncertainty
right.
You
know,
we
don't
know
what
the
winter
is
going
to
bring.
You
know
if
we
have
a
nice
mild
winter,
they
can
continue
to
work
through
and
that
showings
the
winter.
If
we
have
a
hard
winter,
which,
unfortunately
we
maybe
do
it
may
prolong
that
there's
certain
things
that
are
out
of
our
control
in
that.
I
AH
Park
Avenue
in
Cranston
and
I've
been
a
resident
since
1986
and
I've
utilized
the
pool.
Since
my
daughter
was
born
in
1994.
every
chance
we
could
get
I
looked
at
your
proposal
tonight
and
I
still
really
hate
to
lose
Bud
long
pool
in
its
current
size.
It's
like
his
from
my
experience
when
we
went
and
we
used
the
pool
as
you're.
Looking
at
from
the
back
of
the
pool
towards
the
pool
house,
there
was
some
type
of
a
shade
structure.
On
the
left
hand,
side.
AH
Those
were
the
the
desirable
chairs
and
no
matter
what
time
we
went
and
usually
for
me,
I
work
full
time,
so
it
was
always
late
afternoon.
So
it
was
always
full.
Those
were
you
know
the
preferred
seating,
but
the
way
the
pool
cut
it
broke
out
is
the
shallow
wind.
You
would
have
kids
like
two
to
ten
and
you'd
have
some
swimming
Lanes
in
the
middle
for
the
adults
and
the
teenagers
congregated
at
the
end
diving
into
the
tent
into
the
1094.
AH
However,
you
had
it
it's
like
the
picture
that
you
have
with
the
teens
kind
of
in
the
middle.
It
kind
of
looks
like
they're
gonna
get
short
shrift
and
it's
not
going
to
work
for
them.
The
way
they
like
to
play
and
I
really
think
I'd.
Just
rather
see
you
fix
Bud
long
pool
and
let
us
keep
what
we
have.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening,
thanks
so
much
for
the
record
Barbara
Ann,
Fenton,
thong
I'm,
one
of
the
state
representatives
here
for
Cranston
and
I,
actually
I-
think
people
think
they
know
what
I'm
going
to
say
and
it
can
probably
surprise
you
I'm
actually
really
proud
that
you
all
finally
got
together
in
one
spot.
Okay,
this
has
been
years
coming
and
really
the
reason
why
we're
all
here
tonight-
and
this
has
become
such
a
contested
issue-
isn't
so
much
about
the
technical
aspects
of
the
pool.
H
I
think
you
guys
are
all
really
smart,
I,
think
you'll
figure
that
out
I
think
we'll
incorporate
everybody's
ideas.
What's
really
the
reason
why
this
meeting
had
to
be
here
tonight
is
because
these
neighbors
never
felt
listened
to
for
three
years.
They
didn't
have
a
voice
and
the
frustration
built
up
over
weeks
over
months.
What's
really
going
on
the
process
here
has
been
absolutely
ugly
and
I.
Think
everybody
on
this
stage
inside
their
heads
can
admit
to
that
tonight.
H
This
meeting
should
have
happened
honestly,
two
years
ago
and
I'm
going
to
say
once
for
the
record
last
week's
interactions
at
the
city
council
meeting.
Those
were
probably
some
of
the
worst
looks
for
Cranston
in
the
past
year,
and
this
has
been
a
pretty
ugly
year
for
Cranston
and
the
interactions
between
the
director
and
especially
the
council,
president
I
hope
you
two
actually
got
in
a
room
and
settled
your
differences
after,
because
that
that
was
a
really
difficult
thing
for
all
of
us
to
watch
here.
H
As
elected
officials
in
2020,
the
Budlong
pool
was
not
closed
because
of
an
infrastructure
issue.
Okay,
State
guidelines
during
covid
said
you
had
to
keep
the
kids
six
feet
apart,
try
to
keep
any
five-year-old
six
feet
apart
in
the
pool.
It
was
never
going
to
happen
and
that's
the
reason
why
it
was
closed
for
that
it
was
the
Doh
regulations
mayor
when
you
finally
came
into
office
in
2021,
there
was
apparently
now
a
plan
to
make
repairs
for
whatever
reason
that
didn't
actually
happen.
H
That's
your
decision.
The
fact
that
it
was
hidden
from
people
is,
what's
absolutely
eroding
the
trust
that
you
had
when
you
entered
office.
Hiding
things
makes
people
assume
the
worst
and
I.
Don't
know
why
you
chose
that
path,
but
you
did
when
you're
actually
listening.
What
you're
here
in
the
room
is
now
that
lack
of
trust
I
bet
a
lot
of
people
tonight
like
the
plan,
but
they
don't
trust
that
this
is
going
to
go
forward
in
the
way
it
is
on
time
and
on
budget.
H
Politicians
actually
blame
others
and
move
a
lot
of
paper
around
okay
and
we've
all
seen
that
process
data
every
single
level
and
we've
seen
that
a
lot
on
this
issue
leaders
actually
fix
problems,
leaders
create
a
vision,
listen
to
all
types
of
feedback,
good
and
bad,
and
then
execute
on
that
Vision.
When
adjustments
are
made,
there
were
times
when
my
husband,
when
he
was
mayor,
would
put
forth
a
vision,
and
he
thought
it
was
the
greatest
plan
in
the
world
guess
what
couple
of
those
sunk
and
they
made
adjustments
we
fixed
it.
H
I'll
be
quick,
I
know
it's
almost
two
minutes
director.
Thank
you
for
trying
to
shut
me
up
again.
Leaders
do
not
threaten
to
so
throw
somebody
out
of
a
public
meeting
just
because
they're
against
him
and
leaders
would
have
never
let
it
get
this
far.
It's
been
three
years
and
Mr
Mayor
you
escape
it
earlier
about.
This
has
been
a
stressful
last
month,
for
you
is
rather
amusing
and
you
met
with
the
council
president.
H
Last
week
it's
been
three
years
your
slogan
back
in
2020,
and
we
heard
it
a
lot
was
I'm
going
to
be
Alan
Fung,
2.0,
Alan
Fung,
a
plus
plus
you
can
go
back
to
all
the
debates.
Allen
watched
every
penny
in
this
town.
He
engaged
with
the
council.
He
made
adjustments
and
he
treated
everybody
with
respect.
H
H
D
R
B
X
B
H
You
thank
you,
council
president,
and
this
is
actually
the
last
bit
of
it.
I
actually
do
have
a
question
and
it's
rhetorical.
I'll
be
honest.
Can
everyone
up
here
admit
that
they're
just
a
little
bit
wrong
on
this
issue
and
that
everybody
is
just
a
little
bit
at
fault,
because
once
we
get
past
that
and
we
get
past
the
political
differences,
we
can
actually
look
and
judge
a
plan
on
its
merits.
Make
adjustments
that
we
need
to
and
make
sure
that
the
kids
are
not
stuck
another
90
degree
Day
next
year
without
a
pool.
Thank.
AI
I'll
be
very
brief:
my
name
is
Pauline
DeRosa
I
live
at
97,
Cypress,
Drive
and
I
am
the
founder
of
the
Rhode
Island
I'm.
Sorry,
the
Garden
City
Alliance
I
only
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is
about
the
cross
comparison
existing
versus
new
those
two
figures:
five
million
and
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Do
they
include
the
pool
house
as
well?
Yes,.
AI
D
AJ
I've
free
speech
is
a
thing:
that's
what
I've
heard
the
plans
are
lovely.
The
drawings
are
really
impressive,
I'm,
a
proponent
of
keeping
a
large
pool.
It
appears,
though,
we
can't
know
this,
because
previous
plans
haven't
been
shared,
that
there's
been
an
evolution
in
the
plans.
If,
in
fact,
that's
the
case,
that's
a
great
thing.
The
bigger
the
pool
is
the
better.
It
is
for
the
community,
the
more
people
it
can
serve
in
the
community.
AJ
But
the
structure
of
this
particular
meeting
doesn't
really
lend
itself
to
that,
but
others
have
spoken
really
passionately
about
the
need
for
teenagers
in
particular
to
have
safe
outlets
for
their
energy
and
I.
Think
a
pool
being
deeper
really
speaks
to
that,
and
the
pool
being
larger
really
addresses
those
needs
as
as
well
as
another
gentleman
also
mentioned.
AJ
The
proponents
of
a
larger
pool
are
all
about
ADA
access,
we're
all
about
the
pool
being
family
friendly
and,
in
fact,
as
residents
and
taxpayers
were
in
favor
of
a
40-year
lifespan
of
whatever
pool
and
water
facility
goes
in
that
place.
I
don't
want
to
cast
any
aspersions
because
I
have
no
personal
knowledge
on
this
subject,
but
I
hope
you
all
can
understand.
AJ
Resident
skepticism
when
the
same
party,
that
is
in
a
position
to
financially
gain
from
making
a
new
pool,
is
also
the
one
who's
providing
the
estimate
that
we're
using
to
repair
the
current
pool.
So
I
hope
you
can
understand
the
skepticism
and
not
take
it
personally.
My
question
is:
why
can't
we
Cranston
the
second
largest
city
in
the
state
have
our
cake
and
eat
it
too?
Why
can't
we
have
a
large,
safe
pool?
That's
going
to
last
for
40
years.
AJ
N
AK
N
Okay,
so
we
we
actually
ran
the
the
mayor
had
asked.
He
said
if
we
were
to
replace
completely
put
a
new
pool
in
of
that
size
would
be
around
9
million
right
now
it
that's
just
in
including
well,
it
included
in
addition
to
the
bath
house,
because
we
would
need
to
put
the
addition
on
to
accommodate
for
the
additional
patrons.
AG
Marcia
Fowler
35
Milton
Ave,
the
first
part
is
for
the
council.
The
second
part
is
for
the
Edmund
I
would
like
to
thank
the
two,
ladies,
whose
names
were
stated
in
the
mayor's
PowerPoint.
They
started
the
petition
about
saving
Budlong
and
helped
bring
the
city
together
on
a
topic.
So
many
of
us
are
passionate
about.
AG
N
N
The
I
mean
based
upon
the
current
design.
You
know
that
there
are
many
points
that
are
brought
forth
tonight.
You
know,
teen
area
has
been
identified
three
or
four
times,
so
it
is
something
that
we
need
to
consider
and
we'll
take
back
to
the
to
the
team,
and
that's
why
we
have
these
forms.
It's
to
get
the
feedback
that
that
you
presented
and
appreciate.
AG
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
When
I
look
at
those
pictures,
I
ask
myself:
how
long
has
it
been
since
anybody
did
anything
to
take
care
of
those
pipes?
Now,
when
you
have
a
building,
that's
empty,
you
need
to
provide
either
you
you
drain
the
system
and
put
antifreeze
in
that
system.
You
do
something.
Where
was
that
in
a
budget
you
just
don't
close
a
building
and
leave
it
to
rot?
AJ
That's
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
the
taxpayers.
Anyone
now
I'm,
not
convinced
at
all
that
this
is
going
to
get
done
for
three
or
three
and
a
half
million,
and
that's
five
million.
The
other
way.
I
think
this
will
end
up
costing
more
than
three
or
three
and
a
half
million
and
I
think
the
fear
of
people
here.
AJ
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you:
why
wasn't
that
building
maintained
we
have
have
we
had
a
flow
test
on
that
pool?
You
talk
about
leakage
and
my
other
question
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
my
contact
at
Providence
water
and
get
a
printout
that
I
can
put
online
that
everyone
can
see
for
what
that
pool
consumed
in
the
last
15
years,
because
we
sure,
as
hell,
couldn't
see
that
today.
AJ
This
is
the
problem,
lack
of
being
able
to
see
anything
and
we
see
a
lot
of
Mr
Moretti
Mr
Maya.
But
we
don't
see
you
you're.
The
man
come
to
the
meeting
and
and
take
our
questions.
You
limit
us
to
two
minutes
here.
We
get
four
minutes
at
the
council
you're
here,
because
you
have
to
be
here
because
it's
politically
expedient
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
D
D
D
My
representative,
my
chief
of
staff,
but
I,
watch
every
single
meeting
on
zoom
and
I
answer
the
questions
when
they're
asked
through
my
administrative
team,
so
I
watched
what
went
on
last
week
at
that
meeting.
I
watched
it
three
times
as
a
matter
of
fact,
so
to
say
that
I
wasn't
there
I
was
there
and
I
was
listening
and
I
was
watching.
Also.
I
D
Wouldn't
it
have
been
easy
for
me
to
just
kick
the
can
down
the
road
throw
a
patch
on
it,
open
it
up
and
we'd,
be
back
here
again
down
the
road
I
took
the
difficult
stand
to
say:
hey
wait
a
minute
that
pool
is
broken,
I've
brought
in
the
best
experts
that
I
can
find
to
tell
us
what's
wrong
with
it.
My
question
is:
how
do
we
fix
it?
Do
we
put
another
Band-Aid
on
it,
or
do
we
make
it
so
good
that
it
can
last
for
the
next
50
years?
AJ
AJ
U
That's
not
that's
fine,
but
what
during
public
comment,
it's
not
a
point
that
the
administration
can
speak
back
and
answer
the
questions.
It's
a
one-way
Street.
This
is
a
unique
situation
with
this
dialogue
that
that's.
Why
there's
no
immediate
feedback!
We
just
have
to
it's
the
procedure
and
we
have
to
just
follow
that.
AJ
U
Just
to
give
some
perspective,
they
were
hired
well
with
the
sakosha,
Western
and
Samson
Ohio
I,
can't
don't
don't
hold
me
to
it,
but
two
three
months
ago
give
a
take.
This
is
the
first
opportunity.
This
is
the
the
doing
engineering
plans
to
be
able
to
go
out
to
bid
the
direction
that
the
mayor
gave
was
twofold.
U
One
examine
the
existing
pool
to
see
if
it's
doable,
if
it
can
be
redone
and
then
also
in
parallel
path,
to
come
up
with
the
design
for
for
new
pool
to
try
to
expedite
this
to
get
the
pool
open
as
best
we
can
for
next
year.
So,
but
this
is
the
first
time
we
finally
had
these
experts
in
aquatic
engineering
hired
them
to
to
do
this,
because
the
council
had
to
approve
those
funds
too.
So
it
was
a
it
was
a
and
that
was
part
of
it.
U
U
AJ
Excuse
there
was
a
plan:
okay,
I,
don't
know
how
that
plan
got
there
right
away
all
of
a
sudden,
and
yet
still
from
that
point
that
that
petition
was
delivered.
The
plan
was
not
shared,
it
wasn't
shared
with
the
council.
You
said
we
you
know
this
is.
This
is
on
May
Laurel
and
a
city
council
government
work
together.
You
need
to
work
with
them.
You
need
to
show
them
the
plan.
U
AB
U
AJ
U
AJ
L
AJ
Okay,
my
favorite
color
anyway
I
think
you
might
do
well
to
engage
Mr
laboratory
and
talk
to
him
because
he
knows
that
pool
better
than
anybody
else.
True
yeah,
and
maybe
before
you
make
a
decision,
you
should
speak
to
him
because
he
has
maybe
we'd
be
able
to
do
what
everyone
wants
here.
If
you
could
take
some
of
his
information
and
incorporate
it
with.
N
AJ
D
AL
I
want
to
thank
the
young
lady
for
letting
me
go
so
I
wouldn't
be
the
last
person,
but
I
had
to
follow
up
on
the
comment
of
of
the
people.
I
apologize
for
being
here.
Late,
I
I
am
also
serve
as
the
swim
coach
at
Rhode,
Island
College,
and
that's
where
I
was
just
now
and
I
know
that
some
people
this
a
lot
of
the
times
people
look
at
what
I'm
about
to
say,
is
not
favorable
as
to
what
their
ideas
are
like
their
ideas.
AL
These
are
my
ideas,
as
I
said
once
before
in
two
other
meetings
back
in
1998
Mr
De
Jesus,
who
was
the
recreation
director
for
the
city
of
Cranston,
call
me
on
a
number
of
occasions
because
mayor
traffic
candy
wanted
to
reopen
the
pool
because
it
was
closed
that
was
25
years
ago
at
the
time
and
I
know
people
don't
like
to
hear
about
it
that
the
current
custom,
the
custom
trends
at
the
time
call
for
renovating
Municipal
pools
at
that
time.
However,
there
was
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
AL
We
couldn't
do
all
the
work
that
they
wanted
to
get
done,
but
Dennis
whenever
he
had
a
pool
issue.
He
would
call
me,
as
the
one
point
he
actually
called
me.
He
said
what
color
do:
I
paint
the
pool
and
Dennis
will
tell
you.
I
said
I'm
gonna
paint
it
white
and
when
I
drove
by
Aqueduct
Road
one
day
and
I
saw
them
filling
the
pool
with
the
eight
inch
line
and
they
saw
the
pool
was
painted.
Blue
I
said
Dennis
I
said
I
need
to
put.
We
need
to
put
paint
that
white
so.
AL
AL
So
there
were
a
number
of
occasions
when
when
Dennis
would
call
me
when
I
was
serving
as
the
pool
director
in
North
Providence
in
coaching
at
Providence
College
at
that
time,
so
long
story,
short,
okay,
I
looked
at
the
plan
that
the
mayor
had
proposed
and
we
had
talked
about
this
when
he
was
running
for
mayor.
He
said
what
do
I
need
to
do.
I
said,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
the
same
thing:
I
told
mayor
O'leary,
Mayo,
laffy,
Napolitano,
mayor
Fung.
AL
You
need
to
get
up
with
the
times
and
these
the
pool
needs
to
change
because
there's
nothing
there.
That
is
attractive
to
the
pool
that
other
than
the
fact
that
it's
a
big
pool
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
see
in
all
the
comments
about
this
Budlong
pool.
We
heard
him
this
weekend
at
barbecues
and
stuff
when
I
asked
people
who
live
in
the
city
who
grew
up
in
this
area.
AL
Oh
they're,
talking
about
a
smaller
pool.
Well,
the
pool
that
that's
being
proposed
is
the
same
size
pool
as
Cranston
y
pocket,
View
Rhode,
Island
College,
it's
a
Collegiate
size
pool
and
if
you
know
enough
about
pools
which
I
do
with
over
40
years,
experience
that
if
you're
creative
and
your
staff
is
creative,
you'll
be
able
to
do
anything.
You
want
people
talk
about
the
summer
program
not
being
able
to
Big
over
there
yeah
you
can.
AL
I
think
we
all
agree
that
we
need
to
do
something
about
the
pool
we
all
agree,
but
when
we
get
hung
up
on
the
Nostalgia
of
the
balloon
pool
from
38
that
the
two
Highway
diving
boards,
the
the
16-foot
metal
slide
into
two
feet
of
water,
that's
not
possible!
You
can't
do
that.
So
politics,
aside
and
stuff,
like
that,
I've
offered
my
services
to
be
able
to
consult
any
way
we
can
I
still
live
in
the
city,
I
still
work
in
Recreation.
AL
AL
With
the
pool
the
smaller
pool,
the
Collegiate
style
pool
lengthwise
with
lap
swimming
okay,
smaller
depth,
you
still
teach
swim.
Lessons
still
do
your
water
aerobics
be
creative
and
with
the
with
the
Pavilion
that
they
proposed
with
the
with
the
water
slide
and
the
in
the
in
the
also
the
Splash
Pad
area,
think
about
it.
Parents
now
are
not
watching
their
kids
ride
their
bike
from
Edgewood
to
go
to
the
pool
like
Dennis.
AL
AL
Now,
if
you're
opening
up
for
Memorial
Day
to
Labor
Day,
it
might
not
be
possible
for
this
Memorial
day,
but
in
two
years
three
years,
30
years
from
now,
you'll
have
summer
jobs
for
those
kids,
not
only
for
the
seven
weeks
but
longer
so
I
implore
you
to
at
least
look
at
the
plan
and
forget
about
all
the
pettiness
about
that.
About
who
didn't
say
this,
who
didn't
get
this
report
I'm
telling
you
this
report
for
this
pool.
AL
Okay
is
is,
is
a
good
one
when
I've
been
inside,
you
know
when
they
talk
about
Tony
Liberatore.
Knowing
that
pool
Tony
too
also
would
call
me
after
I
left
the
city
of
Cranston
when
I
was
working
in
Narragansett
running
the
pool
down
there
in
the
beach
down
there.
He
would
still
call
me
on
some
things.
AL
AL
If
there's
a
problem
with
a
pool
and
I,
don't
have
the
answer
to
it,
I
call
there
because
a
good
friend
of
mine,
his
son,
runs
that
pool
company
and
I
said.
If
I
don't
know
the
answer,
I'm
calling
him
so
take
it
as
it
may
I
think
the
plan
is
a
good
plan.
Okay
again,
if
you
look
at
other
things
that
can
go
on
there,
we
can
take
care
of
teens.
We
can
take
care
of
families
for
longer
than
just
the
seven
weeks
that
that
pools
open
for
years
and
years
to
come
again.
AL
I
know
people
don't
like
to
hear
me
keep
on
hopping
on
this,
but
again
it's
a
passion
of
mine.
If
I
didn't
know
how
to
if
I
didn't
learn
how
to
swim,
when
I
was
seven
years
old
in
Worcester
and
learn
how
to
do
all
this
stuff,
I
wouldn't
be
as
passionate
as
I
am
now
and
again.
I
know:
I
took
way
too
much
time,
but
if
anybody
has
any
questions
for
me,
I'll
gladly
answer
them.
Thank.
AM
So
a
couple
of
things
I
have
several
things
to
say:
we
have
a
new
splash
pad
in
Cranston
I.
Don't
think
we
need
another
one
and
I'm
curious
if
anybody
has
done
a
study
or
evaluation
about
how
frequently
and
at
what
capacity
that
Splash
Pad
was
used
this
summer,
because
that
would
be
a
great
indicator
of
whether
or
not
people
might
want
another
one
or
even
need
one
I'm
also
curious
about
specifically
what,
if
any
reduction
in
swim,
lessons
would
occur
as
a
result
of
the
smaller
capacity
of
the
pool.
AM
AM
AM
However,
the
YMCA
in
Cranston
isn't
two
and
three
feet
deep
for
half
of
the
size
of
that
pool,
so
I
think
it's
a
false
equivalence.
Regarding
the
study.
I
am
wondering
a
if
the
company
that
did
the
evaluation
is
the
same
one
that
would
be
doing
the
renovations
because
it
seems
like
it
could
be
a
potential
conflict
of
interest,
and
so
I
would
be
very
interested
as
I'm
sure
many
people
here
would
be
of
having
another
evaluation
by
an
independent
or
a
different
party.
AM
AM
B
C
B
N
B
N
N
The
second
question
is
the
teen
area
16
to
19..
This
is
one
of
the
items
that
was
a
that
was
said
tonight
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
consider.
I,
don't
have
a
necessarily
an
answer
on
it
right
now,
but
you
you're
right,
typically
16
to
19
you're,
looking
at
more
of
a
Leisure
area,
and
but
but
you
know
some
of
that,
some
of
that
might
be
deck
space.
It
might
be.
N
N
The
reason
I
was
asking
those
questions
is:
that's
the
first
I've
evaluated,
probably
over
500
pools.
That's
the
only
time
I've
ever
seen
an
insert
pipe
on
the
inside
wall
of
the
pool.
It's
not
common,
it
doesn't
meet
state
code
in
any
way,
and
that's
that's
the
reason
why
it's
it's
just
an
obscure.
It's
an
odd
thing
that
I
was
asking
Mr
liberatory
about
I
I,
do
welcome
him,
I
I,
you
know,
whatever
wealth
of
knowledge
that
can
be
given
granted
is
always
helpful.
N
AM
Okay,
well,
I'll
proceed
with
the
I,
have
several
more
questions.
So
how
much
does
the
evaluation
cost?
Why
wasn't
the
evaluation
done
sooner?
Given
that
the
pool's
been
closed
for
a
couple
of
years,
it
seems
odd
to
wait
so
long
to
do
an
evaluation
and
my
additional
concerns
about
the
evaluation.
It
seems
like
there
was
a
lack
of
evidence
about
the
amount
of
water
being
leaked
into
the
pool,
allegedly
by
that
hose
and
so
I
have
concerns
about
the
scientific
Integrity
of
the
report.
AM
If
the
pool's
capacity
was
truly
1250
people,
why
was
it
allowed
to
operate
in
violation
of
the
code
requiring
it
to
have
more
sinks?
I
I
think
that
the
maximum
capacity
for
that
pool
was
much
less
than
that
in
terms
of
how
many
people
they
would
actually
let
into
the
facility
at
any
one
time,
okay.
AM
Lastly,
I
did
write
and
I
called
the
mayor's
office
this
week
his
staff
was
quite
rude
to
me.
What
I
asked
was.
Why
is
this
a
good
idea
for
Cranston?
They
could
not
give
me
an
answer.
They
told
me
to
come
here
today.
I
have
not
received
an
answer
to
my
satisfaction.
I
asked
if
I
could
speak
to
a
member
of
his
staff,
who
might
know
more
about
why
the
mayor
thinks
this
is
a
good
plan.
I
was
told
no
I
could
not
I
asked
for
the
mayor's
chief
of
staff's
name
and
email
address.
AM
I
sent
an
email
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
This
could
be
entirely
coincidence,
but
the
next
day
a
Cranston
Police
Officer,
was
parked
in
front
of
my
house
for
a
good
amount
of
time,
and
I
did
include
my
address
in
that
email
to
the
chief
of
staff.
So
I
hope
that
that
was
a
coincidence
and
I
hope
that
you
will
listen
to
the
people
of
Cranston
who
do
not
want
a
splash
pad
at
all.
AN
U
Perhaps
I
could
take
some
of
that
because
for
the
new
Fountain,
the
butcher
court
and
all
that
to
referred
to
otherwise
referred
to
as
Eatery
Park
in
total
costs
about
approximately
1.4
million
dollars,
not
four
million
dollars,
of
which
it
was
subsidized
by
state
federal
grants.
And
it
ended
up
costing
the
city
net,
probably
about
850,
000,
plus
or
minus.
AN
U
U
Yeah
that
that's
the
the
city
council
approved
four
million
dollars
in
total
in
the
last
budget
process
in
May.
I
believe
that
the
formal
acceptance
of
the
budget
was
in
May
time
frame
and
total
cost
for
the
pool,
including
engineering
authorized
by
the
council,
is
four
million
dollars
in
terms
of
the
award
for
engineering.
There
is
a
consistent
with
state
law.
There's
a
an
engineered,
an
architect,
predetermined
list,
that's
approved
by
a
purchasing
department
with
this
competitive
bidding.
So
they
can.
U
AN
Well,
I
I'm
sure
I'm,
assuming
that
they
gave
a
fair
bid,
but
that
still
goes
to
the
of
what
things
cost
and
three
million
doesn't
go
like
it
used
to
so
I.
Don't
know
it
was
a
4
million
on
the
park,
including
the
interest.
But
what
we're
talking
about
here,
four
million
is
for
the
sidewalks
3.5.
How
do
you
build?
How
do
you
dig
up
a
pool
Asbestos
and
build
a
new
one
for
3.5
million
dollars
when
the
sidewalks
cost
4
million.
N
AN
AF
R
R
AN
D
AN
I'm
not
talking
about
financing
I'm
talking
about
the
cost
of
construction,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
about
the
tax
burden
on
it,
I'm
saying
what
the
what
the
dollar
amount.
The
balance
sheet
is
to
build
a
pool
versus
building
what
we
put
into
Niceville
and
both
are
equally
important.
If
not,
the
pool
is
more
important.
Maybe
a
city
councilman
can
give
me
I've
heard
the
four
and
eight
million
from
from
members
of
the
council,
so
maybe
they
could
give
me
clarify
that.
AN
L
AO
So
with
that
talk
and
everything
and
everybody
listened
to
what
was
going
on
because
it
needed
to
be
in
an
open
area,
and
that
happened
you
made
that
happen.
You
all
made
that
happen
so
now,
all
I'm
going
to
say,
is
and
I've
been
listening
to
everything.
I
really
don't
have
any
questions
regarding
it.
AO
This
is
an
open
area
and
there
should
be
more
splash
pads
throughout
the
city
just
making
that
statement.
Currently
I
have
five
grandchildren
and
hopefully
I'll,
have
more
grandchildren
hope
to
be
able
to
bring
them
to
this
new
facility,
so
they
have
some
great
memories
along
with
their
papa
and
Grandma.
AO
AO
End
of
the
pool
kind
of
looks
like
it
cuts
into
that
area
and
I:
don't
think
it
would
be
any
more
of
an
expense
to
do
that,
and
maybe
you
could,
you
know,
have
a
few
more
people
into
the
pool
area,
I'm
very
hopeful
that
this
will
be
a
great
new
facility
for
the
city
of
Cranston
and
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
work
here
tonight.
Thanks.
D
Eddie
Ed
can
I
just
address
you
on
one
issue
you
had
mentioned
about
the
splash
pad.
Initially
I
went
with
this
idea
to
councilman
Donegan
and
we
sat
down
and
tried
to
find
a
space
where
it
could
be
where
it
could
fit
in
the
neighborhood
in
his
district.
So
the
initial
space
was
the
playground
behind
the
school
at
Stadium
school
and
when
the
neighbors
came
in
and
talked
to
the
councilman,
he
also
let
me
know
that
there
was
some
concerns
about
the
drainage
about
the
cause.
Speeding
through
that
area.
D
A
AO
D
AO
D
C
B
AK
Hi
it's
Karen,
Rosenberg
and
I
live
at
46
Bow
Street
I
just
wanted
to
start
really
quickly
with
little
history,
because
there's
been
confusion
and
misstatements
about
it
and
I
want
to
make
clear
that
the
public
records
I
received
showed
that
the
pool
could
have
been
opened
in
2021
and
in
each
year
after
that,
and
the
only
reason
it
wasn't
was
because
the
administration
did
not
budget
for
it.
We
have
internal
records
Communications
between
the
mayor's
staff
and
the
city
council,
and
that's
exactly
what
it
says.
AK
I
also
want
to
just
remind
people
that,
when
this
plan
was
conceived,
that
the
only
information
that
the
mayor
had
was
what
was
in
the
records,
which
was
that
the
pool
could
open
and
it
didn't
need
substantial
work.
That's
what
the
chief
of
staff
told
the
council
in
2022
Federal
Hill
group,
inspected
the
pool,
and
they
said
they
could
totally
replace
the
shell
a
comprehensive
building
rebuilding,
not
a
Band-Aid.
AK
They
said
that
they
could
do
that
and
make
the
pool
and
the
bathhouse
success,
or
both
accessible
for
2.8
million
pops
and
that
included
replacing
the
substrate
Excavating
the
pool,
replacing
the
substrate
and
then
putting
in
a
new
pool
shell.
So
what
we're
hearing
tonight
for
Mr
Mariano
is
this?
Incredibly,
you
know
fast
paced
delivery
of
all
this
information
about
how
bad
the
condition
of
the
pool
is,
and
unfortunately,
despite
all
of
your
credentials,
we
can't
trust
what
you're
saying,
because
you
were
hired.
AK
No
detail
presented
rush
rush
rush,
and
you
know
it's
as
if
we're
supposed
to
like
get
handed
this
on
the
spot
and
have
intelligent
questions
to
ask
about
it,
and
we
really
can't
so
what
that
kind
of
leads
me
to
say
is
that
the
problem
here
is
not
a
debate
over.
You
know
what
sort
of
pool
it
should
be
and
by
the
way,
I
should
go
back
and
say
that
I,
don't
think
that
we
need
an
expert
to
tell
us
what
kind
of
pool
that
we
want
to
have.
AK
I
think
that
Cranston
residents
are
capable
of
forming
that
that
decision
on
our
own.
So
that's
not
the
expertise
we
need,
and
we
don't
need
a
mayor
who
decides
what's
in
our
best
interest
and
doesn't
let
us
into
the
decision-making
process
and
that's
been
the
problem.
With
this
whole
process.
People
seem
to
think
in
this
room
that
this
is
a
time
for
them
to
give
feedback
and
offer
ideas
and
that
those
ideas
are
really
going
to
get
considered,
but
you're
not
being
straight
with.
AK
You're
not
being
straight
with
people,
and
the
reality
is
that
this
plan
has
already
been
designed
and
that
you
came
here
tonight
to
tell
people
what
you
have
decided
to
do
in
their
best
interest.
So
you
know
maybe
you'll
go
back
and
make
a
little
bit
more
room
for
all
the
you
know:
teenagers
and
young
adults
that
weren't
even
considered
in
the
school
or
the
adults
who
weren't
considered
in
the
school.
AK
But
we
deserve
to
have
all
the
evidence
put
on
the
table
to
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions
and
to
be
able
to
evaluate
options,
not
to
be
told
what's
going
to
happen
and
given
this
kind
of
like
rushed
explanation,
that
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
independently
examine
and
for
that
reason,
I
think
that
it's
imperative
that
this
project
not
go
forward
until
that
process
happens.
Maybe
at
the
end
of
the
day
after
people
have
a
chance
to
evaluate
the
information
and
to
have
an
impartial
report
on
the
condition
of
the
pool.
AK
They'll
come
to
the
same
conclusion
as
you
mayor,
but
right
now
what
you're
doing
is
forcing
something
through
without
a
transparent
process
without
an
evidence-based
dialogue,
and
it
not
only
is
going
to
I
mean
if
this
happens,
you're
going
to
be
held
accountable
for
it.
If
people
don't
have
that
input
and
people
may
really
live
to
regret
it
if
they
don't
have
a
chance
to
have
that
say
because
this
pool
that
you're
proposing
I
guess
out
of
financial
considerations
is
not
going
to
be
big
enough
to
accommodate
the
people.
AK
Who've
used
it
in
the
past,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
big
enough
to
accommodate
the
uses
that
have
been
made
in
the
past
and
you're
telling
people
that,
basically,
they
have
to
live
with
that
I
guess
for
financial
reasons
when
they
look
around
and
they
see
that
lots
and
lots
of
money
was
spent
on
things
that
they
might
not
have
chosen
to
prioritize
like
Eatery
Park.
So
this
is
a
terrible
process.
AK
It's
not
credible
at
all
and
I
would
really
urge
the
council
to
because
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
the
information
in
a
timely
way
and
in
a
useful
way
from
from
the
administration,
really
should
hold.
Your
own
hearings
use
your
investigative
Powers
subpoena
people.
If
you
have
to
and
make
sure
that
all
the
information
is
out
there,
so
that
the
public
doesn't
lose
all
their
confidence
in
our
local
government.
Thank
you.
K
L
B
B
At
this
time,
we'll
now
close
public
comment
before
well
and
then
next
on
the
agenda.
The
item
up
for
discussion
is
a
council
member
discussion
on
the
topic
of
of
this
evening
of
the
bud.
Long
pool
I
first
want
to
make
some
remarks
this
evening.
That
I
am
both
happy
and
sad
that
we
are
here
this
evening.
B
I'm
happy
that
we're
here
this
evening,
because
even
though
the
council,
through
council
members,
having
placed
this
item
on
the
agenda
numerous
times,
as
even
the
administration
pointed
out
tonight
about
18
times,
I
think
because
when
I
had
heard
tonight
over
the
years,
that
was
because
council
members,
including
myself,
councilwoman,
Jermaine
and
I'm
sure
others
over
these
years
have
been
asking
the
administration.
What's
the
status
of
the
Budlong
pool.
And
what
can
we
do
as
a
community
to
open
the
Budlong
pool?
B
B
We
as
a
city
council,
do
not
control
the
day-to-day
functions
of
the
administration.
We
as
a
council,
even
under
back
in
2021
and
2022,
under
councilman
poplowskis
leadership.
As
president,
we
had
the
same
questions
as
we
do
now,
and
we
rely
on
The
credibility
of
the
administration
at
those
meetings
presenting
information
to
us,
and
it
wasn't
until
recently
that
we
received
information
due
to
a
public
records
request
from
residents
that
changed
circumstances
such
that
there
was
information
such
as
a
repair
estimate.
B
B
We
still
sit
here
today
wanting
to
accomplish
that
goal,
and
every
council
member
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak.
To
that
point.
There
was
little
mention,
but
there
was
mentioned
this
evening
by
representative
Fung
about
the
last
meeting.
I
welcome
people
to
look
at
that
meeting.
Okay,
I
know
myself
I
challenge
anyone
I
always
treat
others
with
respect,
including
the
mayor.
Anyone
sometimes
we
share
opinions.
Sometimes
we
don't
share
the
same
opinions
and
I
practice.
B
What
I
preach
you
learn
more
from
your
differences
than
you
do
your
similarities
and
the
fact
also
remains
that
even
I
hope
at
this
point
is
not
lost
on
us
as
a
community
and
on
the
administration.
We
welcome
the
information
where
we
can
only
make
our
decisions
based
on
the
information
provided
to
us.
B
Okay,
even
tonight
this
evening,
when
it
was
stated
by
director
Moretti
that
the
council
was
given
the
Westin
Samson
report,
it
was
not
and
I'm
and
I'm
sure
you're
well
intentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
information
and
a
lot
of
responsibility
to
all
of
us.
It
was
not
provided
to
us
two
weeks
before
the
council
meeting.
It
was
provided
to
us
on
August
23rd.
B
It
was
dated
August
16th,
don't
know
when
you
got
it,
but
we
got
it.
August
23rd
is
when
this
Council
received
that
information
for
the
very
first
time.
Okay,
we
all
of
us
here
represent
the
public
and
we,
as
council
members
again
are
doing
the
best
that
we
can
with
the
information
provided
to
us,
and
so
let's
go
back
to
facts
that
are
also
relevant
to
where
we
are
here.
B
With
respect
to
the
pool
as
a
council
under
in
2021
under
council
president
pablocos's
presidency,
we
were
told
due
to
kovid
that
the
pool
was
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
opened,
that's
my
recollection
in
2021,
and
that
there
was
concerned
that
the
cost
to
repair
would
exceed
potentially
the
the
the
the
the
efficiency
or
the
cost
of
the
pool
that
it
might
be
cheaper
to
replace
it.
This
build
into
2022.
We
asked
for
information
again.
These
are
all
public
meetings.
Everyone
can
can
see
this
for
themselves.
B
On
Zoom,
we
were
not
given
all
the
information,
as
I
just
mentioned
to
you,
and
what
was
very
relevant
2022
is
that
the
council's
hands
were
tied
as
a
body,
and
you
say
why.
Why
would
that
be
the
case?
Because
the
Administration
has
set
had
set
forth
that
time
that
they
would
be
substantial
repairs
or
substantial
Capital
Improvement
costs
that
would
be
needed
relative
to
the
pool,
but
what
the
administration
failed
to
do,
and
you
know
I'm
not
saying
it
deliberately.
B
It's
just
a
fact
was
to
go
through
the
proper
legal
process
to
allow
the
council
to
appropriate
funds
to
accomplish
that
goal,
and
what
do
I
mean
by
that
it
had
to
go
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
they
had
to
approve
of
that
as
a
potential
capital
expenditure
to
be
included
in
the
mayor's
budget
that
he
presents
to
the
council
so
that
we
as
a
council
could
have
voted
for
or
against
that
proposal.
But
legally
we
were
not
able
to
do
that.
B
Fast
forward
to
this
current
Year's
budget,
the
council
appropriated
up
to
four
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds.
Okay,
in
arpa
funds,
the
mayor's
budget
did
not
designate
where
those
funds
would
come
from,
but
as
a
council
we
believed-
and
we
voted-
that
the
up
to
four
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds.
If
that
would
help
to
get
the
pool
operational
as
quick
as
as
possible,
then
that's
something
that
we
obviously
were
inclined
to
do,
and
that
would
be
at
least
not
incurring
an
additional
tax
burden
to
to
the
taxpayers
and
judge
that
as
you
wish.
B
These
are
just
these
are
the
facts,
and
then
you
you
fast
forward
again.
Public
records
requests,
new
information
to
us
and
then
the
at
the
council
meeting
director
Moretti
representing
the
administration
had
mentioned
that.
Well,
the
mayor
is
going
to
do
a
public.
You
know
Forum
on
this
and
I
had
implored
at
that
time.
B
Can
the
council
be
a
part
of
that
process
and
there
are
legal
requirements
for
that
which
I'm
sure
mayor
you're,
aware
of
as
a
former
member
of
council,
we
need
to
hold
an
actual
formal
meeting,
because
we
as
a
as
a
legislative
body,
cannot
meet.
We
cannot
convene
unless
we
hold
a
formal
meeting
and
instead
we
got
an
email
on
September
I.
Don't
I,
don't
remember
what
the
the
date
was.
B
B
It's
the
same
way
we
do
in
council
chambers,
with
Civility
and
respect
for
those.
We
agree
and
disagree
with
and
I
hope
that
in
the
future,
when
there
is
a
project
that
you
will
be
welcoming
of
the
council's
input,
you
know
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
spoke
to
one
council
member
about
about
the
poll
in
advance,
but
that's
not
the
same,
because
by
doing
this,
the
public
is
part
of
the
process.
As
a
council,
we
did
everything
within
our
ability
to
keep
the
public
informed
and
this.
This
is
a
good
thing.
B
You
know
their
age
saying:
oh
gee
yeah
the
pool's
not
open
again
this
year.
There
really
is
a
need
for
that,
and
the
one
thing
that
some
of
the
information
provided
to
us
tonight
showed
was
that
the
number
of
people
using
the
pool
increase
each
year
leading
up
to
2019
it
was
increasing
I
believe
in
at
least
like
I,
think
it
was
350.
Then
it
was
400,
which
is,
which
is
a
significant.
You
know
percentage.
B
B
So
for
that
reason,
I
do
think
that
there
should
be
more
thought
into
a
deeper
end
or
giving
maybe
four
or
five
Lanes
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
cost
would
be.
At
that
end
from
a
mom
of
someone
you
know
who
swims
and
and
knowing
children,
who
you
know,
teenagers
who
swim
I,
think
that
would
be
very
much
utilized
if
there
was
a
deeper
end.
B
That
was
more
expansive
than
the
one
proposed.
Just
just
a
thought
for
whatever
the
two
senses
in
terms
of
concerns
I
have
about
the
pool
itself.
There's
been
much
discussion
about
you
know
over
the
years
of
about
cracks
in
the
pool.
Did
you
actually
go
there
and
see
cracks
in
the
concrete
of
the
pool.
N
B
Because
then
that
was
my
other
question
was
there's
been
talk
about
there?
Being
you
know,
if
you
reach
down
and
you
grab
underneath
the
liner,
you
will
be
the
concrete,
wouldn't
it
be
like
concrete,
I
believe
the
term
the
mayor
used
was
like
mud,
who
actually
did
that
to
determine
that
the
concrete
underneath
is
actually
like
mud,
okay,.
D
Council
president
I
talked
to
a
gentleman
from
the
pool
Source
who
installed
the
new
liner.
He
raised
some
serious
concerns
about
why
that
liner
was
being
put
in
over
cement.
That
was
porous,
so
the
information
that
we
got
came
from
the
person
that
installed
the
liner,
who
raised
very
an
awful
lot
of
concern
about
the
cracks
and
the
drains
in
the
cracks
along
the
deep
end
that,
as
they
tried
to
fix
them,
they
were
pumping
out
water
to
dry
it
out.
D
B
B
Right
and
then
something
else,
that's
important
because
again
facts
matter
to
is
that
I
understand
the
whole.
The
pumping
the
pump
station
while
I
may
not
be
an
expert
and
I
know
some
people
who
are
but
with
respect
to
the
the
pumping
station
is
my
understanding
that,
because
the
the
pool
has
not
been
operational,
although
the
city
was
previously
allowed
to
operate
with
that
pumping
into
the
wetlands
or
whatever
it
was
with
Dem
due
to
grandfathering,
that's
no
longer
going
to
be
the
case
going
forward
because
it
has
not
been
operational.
N
B
Just
basically,
to
put
it
in
simple
terms,
so
everyone
can
understand
the
water
that
is
leaving
the
the
filtration
or
Pump
Station,
that's
leaving
the
pool
facility
and
going
into
discharge
into
the
wetlands.
That
is
something
that
previously
was
not
any
type
of
Dem
concern,
because
we
were
grandfathered
in
in
that
process.
But
if
but
because
the
pool
is
closed,
those
standards
are
now
changed.
N
I
I,
don't
know,
usually
there's
really
nothing
grandfathered
when
it
comes
to
Aquatics.
You
know
it's
what
the
code
is
today
and
it
has
to
adhere
to
it
in
in
likelihood.
Councilman
I
see
this
all
the
time
that
this
occurs
and
no
one
really
just
seen
it.
No
one
has
really
brought
the
issues.
You
know
it's
been
like
that,
so
they
just
never
questioned
it
until
an
expert
comes
in
and
says
that
you
have
an
issue.
D
President
can
I
address
you
on
one
issue
that
you
brought
up
yeah.
Thank
you.
You
made
mention
to
the
fact
that
the
average
usage
of
the
pool
per
day
was
going
up.
Our
records
indicate
that
they
actually
went
down
from
2000
well
from
2017
to
2018.
There
was
a
pretty
good
increase
from
122
to
154
per
day
on
average,
but
from
2018
to
2019.
It
actually
dropped.
B
Yeah
just
a
chemist
mayor,
we
were
just
given
this
this
evening
when
we
sat
down
on
our
seat.
So
forgive
me
if
I
don't
have
it
exactly
right,
but
when
I
looked
at
it
it
was
the
highest
usage
number
per
day,
not
the
average
but
the
highest
number
of
people
in
the
pool
at
any
hour.
Peak
usage,
Peak
usage.
Thank.
B
B
U
AP
So
as
someone
who
want
to
work
and
who
believe
in
the
mayor's
words
he
didn't
mention,
he
didn't
send
a
document
to
me
to
say
this
is
the
dimension
I
want.
This
is
the
one.
Third,
this
is
the
cause.
One
picture
and
I
asked
him
say:
oh
that's,
lovely
I
like
the
picture.
Yes,
but
do
we
have
all
the
information?
No
and
I
do
believe
that
that's
after
that
minutes,
when
I
ask
questions
where
we
are
at
Butler
and
we
know
when
we
met
that's
when
I
know.
AP
So
you
have
this
information
a
year
prior
I
met
with
you
and
you
laugh
at
me.
You
didn't
say
anything
to
me
and
you
didn't
say
anything
to
the
council,
because
when
I
realized
you
are
playing
with
me,
you
didn't
take
me
seriously
and
then
that's
why
I
start
putting
this
topic
in
the
agenda
every
week.
So
that's
why
you
say
every
month,
18
meetings
and
going
so,
let's
see
the
chronology
of
the
events,
so
we've
been
transparent.
AP
AP
February
2022,
you
have
a
second
opinion
about
the
poll
that
give
options
so
the
first
one
that
said
the
pool
can
be
rebuilt
for
90
000.
You
hide
that
completely
from
the
public
completely
from
the
administration
and
we've
been
asking
questions.
Every
time
gave
us
an
update
will
give
us
the
cost.
What
will
be-
and
sometimes
you
cut
the
the
admissions
says-
it's
gonna
be
seven
million
dollars
and
here
with
jewels
in
Phase,
One
Facebook
never
have
really
something
concrete.
AP
That
was
February
when
Federal
Hill
group
dude
did
submitted
report.
So
the
administration
we
pay
with
taxpayer
money.
13
875
for
this
report
and
in
that
report,
give
three
options
and
the
first
option
says
we
can
repair
the
polls
that
is
in
in
the
same
thing
that
what
New
England
aquatic
said
we
can
repair
the
ball.
AP
AP
AP
AP
So
whoever
want
to
use
the
people
the
way
it
is
right
now
and
I.
Think
I
am
not
in
favor
of
that
and
I
said
it
over
and
over
so
now
question
about
60s
and
70s,
and
you
want
I
would
like
to
ask
how
old
is
City
wall?
How
old
city
world
when
the
city
wall
was
built?
How
old
White
House
is
when
was
it
built
so
answer
those
questions.
AP
When,
when
we
come
to
this
city-
and
you
when
you
take
the
the
off,
what
did
you
do
you
make
some
repair?
Did
you
want
to
tear
down
the
city
hall?
I,
don't
think
so
and
in
question
we
have
some
landmarks
like
the
park
theater
that
will
celebrate
99
years
I,
don't
think
you
will
give
advice
to
till
down
on
the
park,
but
long
poles
is
sentimental
for
the
resident
of
Queenston
and
those
for
those
report
that
was
hiding.
AP
AP
Something
just
doesn't
add
up
for
me.
Suddenly
we
have
a
course.
We
don't
know
where
it
comes
from
it
just
fly
from
the
sky,
nothing
details
say
how
like,
for
example,
the
pump
will
cost
5
000
and
give
me
a
detailed
budget.
So
in
number
four
from
the
sky
to
tell
us
it
will
cost
now,
because
that's
the
question
we've
been
asking,
give
us
the
comparison,
how
much
it
will
cost
to
repair
the
the
pool
versus
to
build
a
new
one.
I,
don't
mind
if
you
want
to
build
a
new
one,
but
not
smaller.
AP
Now,
I
have
some
question
so
I
want
to
admit
that
clear,
so
continue
to
Target
me
over
and
over
I
don't
mind.
So
there
is
a
saying
in
Haiti.
They
say:
rotten
teeth
have
swings
on
bananas,
so
I
am
I,
don't
know
if
you
will
understand
that
rotten
teeth
have
strength
on
bananas,
so
I
I
I
am
the
banana,
so
I
can
take
it.
AP
Okay,
but
one
thing
we
want
to
make
clear
here:
there
was
no
process
that
was
transparent,
honest
from
the
beginning
and
I
do
believe
what
has
been
proposed
tonight.
For
the
first
time,
we
see
that
and
I
see
that
for
the
first
time
all
this
information
and
now
I
heard
there's
gonna
be
seven
feet
right.
AP
Where
is
the
money
gonna
come
from?
You
couldn't
answer
it.
So
please
we
have
all
the
records
and
we
have
residents
that
spend
hours
to
go
back
to
those
records
to
those
meetings
to
listen
to
what
have
been
said.
They
are
here
so
I
I
encourage
everybody
to
go
to
YouTube
us
if
some
of
them
have
not
been
erased
already
so
60s
70s,
it's
old
or
he
started.
AP
We
started
in
this
country
to
close
all
in
60
70s
and
we
all
know
why,
because
we
have
this
segregation
and
there
is
and
and
decreases
in
the
use
of
the
pool.
That's
still
you
have
to
have
it
because
we
have
this
segregation.
People
don't
want
to
mingle
with
people
of
color
that
now
can
go
to
to
participate
in
those.
D
AP
B
AP
16
70s,
yes,
there
is
a
decrease
in
using
of
public
pools
and
there
is
a
reason
for
that
and
today's
world
people
who
are
do
not
have
the
luxury
to
have
backyard
pool.
They
are
the
one
that
is
joining
when
they
go
to
the
to
the
lake
here
in
Rhode
Island.
How
many
people
we
know
already
died
in
joining
question
to
answer.
AP
20
years
ago,
30
years
ago,
we
didn't
have
83
000
people
in
Princeton.
Queenston
is
the
second
largest
City
and
we
always
brag.
We
do
things
differently.
Why
we
need
to
decrease
the
spool.
We
do
not
give
all
all
people
all
aged
the
same
opportunity
to
enjoy
this
school.
There
is
a
lot
of
space.
We
can
add
everything.
I,
don't
oppose
to
add
things
to
the
pool
if
we
have
the
money,
but
please
have
a
pool
with
with
three
labs.
AP
My
next
question:
how
many
people
can
do
lab
swim
in
one
life?
That's
one
question:
if
you
want
people
to
bop,
it's
like
like
a
fish
right,
that's
why
we
want
to
do
with
with
seven
to
seven
thousand
square
field
square
feet
pool,
so
you
don't
want
to
really
enjoy
it,
because
when
you
go
to
the
pool
you
want
to
have
time
to
do
swim
turn.
So
now
you
go
to
a
pool,
he's
so
crowded
and
you
cannot
turn
that's
why
we
want
when
we
have
a
population
that
is
increasing,
so
I
don't
understand
it.
AP
So
I
will
continue
to
oppose
this
small,
tiny
poem.
It's
not
fit
the
needs
of
our
population
period.
If
you
want
to
be
available,
we're
going
to
rebuild
a
pool
that
need
that
need
the
needs
of
the
people.
Don't
compare
us
with
smaller
states
to
City.
They
do
things
differently.
We
do
things
differently
too.
Here
don't
go
fall
in
that
parameters,
so
please
I'm
Gonna
Leave
the
floor,
but
I
wanted
to
make
this
clarification.
AP
We
have
a
meeting.
I
haven't
received
I,
we
have
an
informal
meetings,
we
didn't
have
someone
take
notes
and
I
would
like
to
see
those
notes.
When
those
words
like
it's
like
you,
you
take
mistakes
seriously.
You
invited
me,
you
never
invited
me
in
anything
you're
doing
I'm
in
what
to
anything
that
has
been
doing
in
world
too.
You
never
invited
me
you,
you
didn't
invite
me
for
the
Portland
pool.
I
came
to
you
and
you
laugh
at
me
and
now
you
want
to
use
me
to
blame
me.
AP
That's
how
to
stop,
and
my
position
is
to
put
a
pause
on
this
ridiculous
ridiculous
report,
because
I
think
it's
bias.
It's
bias.
There
is
conflict
of
interest.
It's
like!
Oh,
the
result
I
need
the
first
company
didn't
give
me
the
wizard
I
need
the
result.
I
need
the
second
company
didn't
give
me
I
need
to
find
someone
to
tell
him.
This
is
what
I
need,
and
you
have
to
give
it
me
give
it
to
me
and
on
until
we
have
so
that's
transparency
for
me
and
I
have
nothing
personal.
AP
You
you
take
it
so
personal
attack
me.
Send
me
a
text
saying
thing:
I'm
not
doing
that.
But
what
call
transparency
is
we
have
someone
who
do
not
have
any
interest
whatsoever
in
this
whatever,
where
their
financial
gain
to
give
us
really
a
report
that
is
neutral
and
then
we
can
do
we
build.
We
can
allocate
money
if
we
want
to
be
billable,
but
a
pool
that
even
is
not
10
feet
or
nine
feet
or
at
least
nine
feet,
and
that
is
large
enough,
where
our
people
are
not.
AP
AP
AP
But
this
is
not
what
people
want
my
resume,
my
my
constituent,
all
question:
they
want
to
keep
the
size
of
people.
That's
what's
matter.
We
want
to
keep
the
size
of
the
pool
you
can.
All
of
those
are
beautiful,
I'm
not
against
against
them
all
those
splash
pads.
It's
not
that
the
question
we
know
the
problem.
We
wanted
compliance,
ADA
compliance.
We
want
a
poll
where
a
professional
swimmer
can
come,
a
beginner
can
come
and
on
average
can
come
and
we're
not
crowded.
Let's
fish.
Thank
you.
D
D
August
10th
Thursday,
August,
10th
I,
sent
you
a
text
message
and
it
says
councilwoman.
If
you
would
like
to
meet
with
me,
I
will
surely
make
the
time
this
is
not
political.
It
is
a
vision
for
the
future.
Generations
that
will
surely
be
loved
by
all
people
need
to
trust.
My
vision,
I
invited
you
to
come
in
to
talk
to
me
and
I
never
got
a
response
on
that.
D
D
D
We
make
comments
that
the
mayor
is
hiding
things.
The
mayor
lies
I'm
here
tonight
to
tell
you
that.
That's
not
true
that
I
don't
lie
that
I
have
invited
you
to
discuss
these
matters
and
you
refused
because
I
believe,
based
on
what
I've
seen
at
some
of
these
Council
meetings,
that
some
of
you
have
your
own
agenda.
AP
AP
AP
AJ
AP
You
know
respectfully
I
believe
that
we
could
work
this.
We
do
something
together.
That's
why
I
you
know
I
email
you,
but
when
I
realized
I
said
it,
you
I
wasn't
the
person
who
made
the
public.
We
curse
report,
I,
felt
and
I
share
with
my
constituent
that
something
was
an
adult
I
share
that
and
that's
why
they
make
public
record
and
share
with
me.
So
it's
based
on.
AP
What's
going
on
in
your
Administration
that
I
realized,
you
were
laughing
at
me,
looking
at
me
like
and
then
laughing,
because
you
have
those
information
right
since
2021,
so
two
companies
and
you
didn't
share
it
with
us.
So
let
me
tell
you,
because
when
I
keep
postings
because
I
post
a
lot
about
what
long
cool
and
I
email
you
know,
I
I
have
to
say
we
have
residents
that
mobilize
to
get
the
Battle
of
it.
AP
Please
tell
the
truth.
You
can
get
this.
We
can
get
this
project
done.
If
you
and
fairy
stop
making
things
difficult
cut
cut,
the
political
BS
I
have
worked
tirelessly
in
your
world
to
get
things
done.
Paving
most
of
most
inward
to
than
anywhere
in
the
city.
World
square
with
new
businesses
is
amazing.
Please
just
speak
the
truth
and
walk
with
us.
AP
I
didn't
reply
to
you
because
I
felt
it
was
insulting.
If
there's
something
I,
don't
do
I,
don't
lie.
I,
don't
compromise
on
my
honesty,
so
you
want
you
want
to
tell
me
you
you
imagine
everybody!
That's
why
I
didn't
reply,
because
this
test
you
set
me
on
July,
13
I,
didn't
reply
to
you
because
I
don't
want
to
go
back
with
you.
You
know
I
was
you
are
an
older
person?
You
could
be
my
dad,
so
I
wasn't
happy.
AP
So
I
was
hoping
one
day
and
and
I'm
glad
today
to
to
repeat
council
president
now
you
know
I'm
glad
we
can
have
discussion
because
it
wasn't
personal.
You
call
me
political
grandstanding,
you
put
out
a
press
conference
exactly
for
me,
you
it's
like
you
know
you
have
a
parent
and
you
you
call
to
counsel
with
President
Marino.
You
like
tell
him,
tell
her
just
to
tell
me
to
shut
up.
That's
what
you
did
in
your
press
conference.
I,
didn't
say
a
word,
so
this
is
go
beyond
it's,
not
political.
AP
It's
what
needs
to
be
done.
So
if
I
don't
answer
you
because
I
don't
want
to
go
back.
What
do
you
want
to
tell
you?
Oh
I
said
everything
out
loud
I
ask
question
where
we
are
at
and
then
when
I
realize
now
you
have
those
information
and
you
did
it
today.
We
have
a
of
something
that
is
put
on
this
on
on
the
screen
that
share
that
say.
This
is
what
you
plan
to
do.
We
have
something
in
paper.
AP
Last
week
you
sent
something
on
paper,
those
that
come
after
we
have
a
press
conference
after
we
have
petitions.
Please,
because
residents
step
up,
so
you
said
two
thousand:
you
want
to
ignore
those
two
thousand.
Don't
don't
do
that
those
2000
Signature
are
people
in
Crimson
are
resident
in
concern.
They
are
equally
important
as
the
west
of
90.
Don't
dismiss
them.
D
B
B
B
B
L
S
Thank
you,
council,
president
Mourinho,
so
the
The
Proposal
is
a
7,
000
square
foot,
pool
correct,
that's
correct,
which
you
know.
If
those
images
were
put
in
front
of
me,
you
know
void
of
context
yeah
they
look
great
I
mean
who
wouldn't
look
at
those
and
say
that's
awesome,
the
it's
not
here
and
I.
Don't
know
it
off
the
top
of
my
head.
The
square
footage
of
the
current
pool,
the.
S
So
three,
three
to
three
point:
five
would
get
us
a
seven
seven
thousand
square
foot
pool
director
Moretti.
Is
it
750,
000
Grant?
We
have
all
right.
So
we
have
four
million
dollars
in
arpa
funds
which,
in
transparency
the
mayor's
budget
was
four
million
dollars
in
bond
money
in
which
the
city
would
pay
interest
on
over
the
next.
You
know,
20
years
or
so
in
finance
committee.
We
made
a
change
to
make
that
arpa
funds
which
the
city
would
pay.
S
U
U
S
N
I
think,
based
upon
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
tonight,
we
could
accommodate
some
of
these
additional
things.
You
know
adding
additional
Lanes,
adding
a
larger
teen
area,
creating
shade
creating
other
amenities
in
the
pool,
and
this
is
why
we
went
in
with
a
3.3
to
3.5
million
dollar
approach
right
now,
because
we
know
we're
going
to
get
feedback.
N
What
we're
providing
is
not
we're
providing
our
best
interests.
There
was
many
conversations
that
have
happened
during
this
project.
That
said,
can
you
rebuild
the
pool
Mark?
Can
you
rebuild
that
in
my
professional
opinion?
I?
Don't
think
so
you
can
you
can,
but
there's
a
cost
associated
with
that
right.
N
You
know
to
add.
Obviously
these
things
as
a
cost
associated
with
it
with
a
more
budget
with
more
budget,
we
can
certainly
increase
the
program
increase
the
items.
There
was
just
two
other
questions.
Councilman
Germaine
had
asked
how
many
people
can
swim
per
Lane,
usually
two
and
the
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
kind
of
also
state
and
just
kind
of
make
it
clear.
N
My
report
in
federal
Hills
are
kind
of
Lock
and
sync
and
they
report
they
identified
that
the
pool
loses
about
40
to
60
gallons
per
day
and
in
The
Proposal.
They
do
identify
that
the
cons
of
repairing
the
pool
are
high
costs
relative
to
programmatic
programmaticals
achieved
and
the
approach
minimally
addresses
and
improves
the
user
experience
from
a
visual
perspective.
N
N
And,
like
I
said,
this
is
new
information
that
you
guys
are
digesting
and
I.
Welcome
you
asking
me
these
questions
and
there's
certain
reasons
why
we
design
certain
ways.
It's
obviously
a
check
and
balance
and
all
that
and
as
we
go
through
the
questions
you
develop,
we
can
address
those
and
you
can
kind
of
see
where
we're
getting
at
in
the
end.
I.
S
Don't
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
go
ahead,
I'm,
gonna
kind
of
do
that
so
I
I
chair
our
finance
committee.
We
were
given
a
lot
of
information
this
evening.
Yep
would
would
you
be
willing
to
come
back
and-
and
you
know
maybe
a
couple
weeks
from
now
with
our
committee
once
we've
had
time
to
really
look
everything
over
come
back
and
answer
questions
again
as
as
they've
come
up.
If.
N
S
S
It's
just
the
reality
of
you
know
the
working
relationship
that
has
come
up,
so
that's
kind
of
how
I
feel
I
would
definitely
take
seriously
2
000,
plus
people
that
have
signed
a
petition
saying
not
to
downsize
the
pool
yeah.
That
might
only
be
two
percent
of
the
city,
but
you
get
2
000
people
to
sign
something
they
care
and
that's
important
and
I
think
that
we
should
listen
to
them.
So
that's
all
I
got
to
say.
B
D
Councilman
Donegan
we
we've
worked
on
a
number
of
projects
together
in
the
city,
continue
to
do
that,
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
kept.
Anything
from
you
personally
never
lied
to.
You
always
dealt
with
you
in
a
professional
manner,
whether
we
agree
or
disagree
on
a
topic.
We've
always
had
that
type
of
relationship
and
and
again
I'd
like
to
continue
to
do
that.
D
U
I
can
please,
if
I
can,
please
add,
I,
think
something
very
critical
because
it's
come
up,
but
the
audience
has
come
up
with
the
console
about
this
new
information
about
this,
a
quotation
from
this
New
England
Aquatics.
It's
a
maintenance
and
repair
company
back
in
I
think
it
was
June
or
May
of
2021..
U
There
was
a
quote
assuming
that
that
that
the
root
that
would
be
the
root
that
that
would
be
the
cost
for
the
routine
opening
of
the
pool.
There's
nothing
secretive
about
that
document.
It
was
discovered
later
on,
after
that's
done,
that
it
was
not
possible
to
do
given
all
the
facts.
The
mayor
presented,
the
engineering
firm
presented,
the
Federal
Hill
group,
presented
that
the
was
that
did
not
take
into
consideration
the
existing
conditions
of
the
pool.
U
U
Okay,
so
gotta
realize
that
I
hate
to
ruin
the
narrative,
but
ninety
thousand
dollars
would
not
have
opened
the
pool
it
would
have
been
on
the
routine
circumstances
if
the
pool
was
functional
in
every
other
regard,
so
you
just
want
to
set
that
for
the
record
very
critical.
The
other
thing
you
mentioned
is
saying
that
I
kept
saying
that
assuring
the
pool
will
be
opened.
U
I
need
you
to
prove
to
me
under
what
circumstances
was
that,
without
the
knowledge
that
subsequently
became
available,
that
the
pool
of
all
the
defects
in
the
existing
facility
I
believe
I
would
have
never
made
those
statements?
So
if
we
go
back
check
your
notes
under
the
circumstances
for
which
I
made
those
statements
that
the
pool
would
would
open-
and
that
was
the
mayor's
intentions,
please
double
check
the
timing
of
that.
That
could
be
very,
very
critical
to
my
credibility.
U
U
Please
tell
us
what
those
documents
are
and
let's
have
a
discussion
on
that,
because
you'll
find
there's
nothing
secretive,
there's
nothing,
covert,
there's
nothing
misleading,
there's
nothing!
We
withheld
so
just
be
fair,
I.
Ask
that
to
please
be
fair
and
just
don't
take
a
political
perspective
from
certain
individuals.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you,
director.
The
to
the
point
of
the
new
information
at
that
council
meeting
last
week.
I
had
requested
that
any
of
the
documents
that
were
provided
pursuant
to
that
public
records
request
be
given
to
the
council
in
advance
of
this
meeting.
That
has
not
happened
just
for
transparency,
on
that.
S
The
timing
of
the
June
2020
2021
report,
whether
or
not
it
could
have
opened
the
pool,
that's
information
that
should
have
been
shared
with
the
council.
As
the
as
the
note
here
points
out,
the
bud
long
pool
was
discussed
by
the
city
council
at
the
June
2021
city
council
meeting,
which
would
have
been
after
the
date
that
this
estimate
was
received
by
New
England
Aquatics,
that's
information,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
it
would
have
opened
the
pool.
It's
information
we
should
have
had
and
to
the
mayor.
S
I've
always
enjoyed
working
with
you.
I
enjoyed
working
with
you
when
you
were
on
the
city
count
when
we
were
on
the
city
council,
together,
I
enjoy
working
with
you
now,
as
as
you
being
the
mayor
and
and
myself
still
in
this
in
this
seat,
I,
don't
think
you're
a
bad
person
I.
Don't
think
anyone
in
your
Administration
is
a
bad
person.
S
We
have
a
disagreement
about
what
direction
to
go
in
the
future
of
this
pool.
I
I
would
say,
let's
get
as
big
a
pool
open
as
we
possibly
can
for
the
amount
of
money
that
we
have
available
at
this
time.
I
don't
want
this
to
not
be
open
again,
I
mean
it
people,
it's
people
deserve
to
have
this
pool
and
if
we
can't
realistically
give
them
a
22,
000
square
foot
pool
well,
they
better
get
the
biggest
pool
we
possibly
can.
D
B
D
L
D
B
AQ
N
N
So
we
would
be
starting
from
scratch,
probably
three
or
four
months
and
for
the
designing
for
the
for
the
complete
engineering
package
correct,
yeah
granted.
You
know
there
was
back
and
forth
as
we
experienced
and
I.
You
know,
I
can't
just
turn
in
a
plan
that
you
guys
see.
So
that's
where
our
accounts-
okay,.
N
AQ
J
AQ
N
AQ
AQ
N
AQ
Based
on
your
experience,
if
we
were
to
just
redo
the
entire
pool
to
keep
it
the
size
that
it
is
now
and
bring
it
up
to
code,
what
do
you
think
is
assuming
right?
We
don't
suddenly
hit
any
bumps
in
the
road
with
construction
or
any
equipment
that
we
need
backward
or
anything
like
that.
What
is
typically,
the
time
frame
to
build
the
pool
dot
size
we
built.
N
AQ
So
that's
a
based
on
their
ability
and
two.
The
60
months
is
pretty
much
kind
of
telling
us
that,
given
the
fact
that
we're
in
September
of
2023
the
pool,
if
we
were
to
keep
it
the
same
size
that
it
is
today
and
just
got
the
whole
thing
and
just
bring
it
up
to
code
and
everything
else,
it's
definitely
not
going
to
be
open
next
summer.
No,
no
okay
and
depending
on
the
weather
and
everything
else,
I
would
assume
has
a
lot
to
do
with
it.
You.
N
AQ
N
We
did
so
here's
an
example.
We
did
recently
this
last
year,
one
of
our
facilities
opened
up
in
Plano
Texas,
that
was
22
000
square
foot
pool.
That
was
a
wave
pool
which
is
obviously
a
different
element
to
what
we're
looking
at
here
that
took
about
six
months
of
just
the
pool
exclusive
to
build,
not
demo,
not
deck,
not
procurement,
none
of
that
it's
just
it's
a
large
body
of
water
and
it's
kind
of
parlaying
into
that.
You
know
it's
something
that
we've
we've
said.
The
city
then
has
to
staff
that
too
right.
N
We
have
to
have
enough
lifeguards
that
we're
covering
the
minimum
20
second
protocol
right,
then
it's
not
that
they're
on
the
deck.
You
also
have
to
have
the
double
amount,
so
that
they're
rotating
through
you
need
to
have
staff.
That's
you
know,
cleaning
up
monitoring
that
it's
it's
a
large
burden
of
cost,
so.
AQ
You're
and
so
then,
in
looking
at
the
cost
on
comparison
that
you
provided
earlier,
which
was
that
cluster
repair
was
five
million
dollars.
That
would
provide
us
with
a
10
years
lifespan
versus
the
cost
of
a
new
pool.
That
would
be
between
three
to
three
point:
five
million
that
new
pool
is
the
size
is
I
know
currently
is
a
22
Square
thousand
Foot
Right.
Now
the
existing
one?
What's
the
square
footage
again
on
the
the
one.
N
That
was
presented
today
is
7
000.7
000
from
hearing
from
council
members
in
the
public
that
might
grow
that
might
grow
another
2
000
square
feet
depending
upon
how
you
address
the
the
comments
that
were
provided
and
and
trying
to
marry
that
with
the
budget.
Obviously
we
got
a
match
demand
to
budget
and.
AQ
E
V
E
AQ
What
about
the
bath
house
today
that
bath
house
today,
if
we
have
a
22,
000
square
foot,
pool
the
space
on
the
current
baffle,
is
not
equivalent
doesn't
match
with
the
size
of
the
pool.
So
if
we
were
to
keep
the
pool
the
size
that
it
is
today
and
add
a
bath
pool
that
would
match,
with
the
capacity
of
that
pool,
I
hate
asking
for
math,
but
roughly
like
what?
What
would
what
would
be
the
cost
there.
E
AQ
N
N
R
AQ
AQ
AQ
N
This
this
there's
things
that
were
discussed
tonight,
that
open
increased
liability
to
the
city
and
some
of
the
programmatic
elements.
Obviously
anything
that's
launching
or
diving
or
anything
like
that
right
and
and
the
pool
that
we're
proposing
six
foot
depth
you
can
still
dive
into
you
can
still
do
cannonballs
into
you
can
still.
If
you
choose
to
do
a
flip
into
it,
not
advisable
on
the
record,
but
the
depth.
The
depth
will
accommodate
that
the
death
pomon
accommodated
diving
board
the
reason.
N
There's
not
many
communities
for
outdoor
community
pools
that
incorporate
diving
boards
they're
an
expensive
item,
their
reliability
and
you're.
Talking
about
the
the
deeper
you
make,
the
pool
the
more
one
dimensional
that
section
of
water
ends
up
being,
and
then
you
increase
the
the
volume
of
water
which
then
you
need
to
filter
it.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
various
chain
of
reactions
that
come
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
we
try
to
kind
of
blend
that
we
try
to
give
that
in
a
smaller
dose.
AQ
AR
Thank
you,
council,
president
I.
Let
my
remarks
off
last
time.
I
spoke
about
this
about
emotion
and
I,
heard
a
saying
the
other
day.
That
I
think
fits
this
right
here.
When
you
make
a
decision,
emotions
are
like
a
seesaw,
the
higher
the
motion,
the
lower
the
logic
and
the
higher
the
logic,
the
lower
the
emotion
and
I
think
that
fits
us
right
here.
There's
a
lot
of
emotion
here.
I
have
a
question
and
you
kind
of
answered
it
right
off
the
bat,
the
depth
of
a
pool.
Is
it
typical?
AR
N
It
changes
based
upon
what
the
community
wants
and
what
the
program's
offered
and
what
your
site
constraints
are.
I
would
say,
on
average,
in
the
pools
that
we
do
I
would
say
most
of
them
don't
exceed
seven
feet
unless
you're
an
NCAA
or
a
high
school
team.
That
has
a
diving
program.
If
you
have
a
specific
need
for
that,
for
that
they
they
really
don't
go
much
deeper
because
you've
become
one-dimensional
and
there's
a
cost.
Associated.
N
AR
N
I
can't
you
know
the
lifeguards
will
will
scold
you
if
you
do
a
backflip
into
a
pool
and
nowadays
and
and
it's
discouraged,
you
know,
there's
specific
language-
that
we
have
to
write
on
signs
that
are
posted,
that
specifically
State
these
things
per
code,
so
to
to
kind
of
invite
that
is
kind
of
being
the
engineer
and
looking
out
for
the
city.
It's
it's
not
advisable
right.
AR
They
also
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
think
Council
vice
president
for
intelligence
questions,
I
I
really
appreciate
that
it
was
okay.
Very,
very
good.
I
also
I
want
to
address
this.
The
89
000
Aquatics
quote
to
open
the
pool
if
I
read
the
packet
and
immediately
after
that
packet.
Well
in
the
packet,
it
says
replace
the
sand
in
the
in
the
filters
and
it
was
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
number,
and
then
there
was
an
attached
email
right
after
it.
That
says
we
can't
open
the
filter.
We
can't
we
don't.
AR
We
don't
want
to
open
those
filters
or
those
canvases
because
they're
going
to
leak.
Well,
it
tells
me
right
off
the
bat
that
we're
gonna
I
mean
everybody's
taking
their
car
to
the
to
the
shop,
and
they
said
it
needs
a
spark
plug
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
need
an
engine.
So
I
I
think
this
was
a
a
rabbit
hole
that
we
would
have
went
down.
So
I
also
want
to
say
yeah.
AR
There's
one
thing
that
keeps
stabbing
me
when
I
hear
people
come
up
here
and
say
we
don't
want
a
splash
pad
I
mean
that's,
that's
sad
because
there's
a
lot
of
children
there's
a
lot
I
mean
I,
have
grandchildren
and
they're
from
New,
York,
City
and
and
they
this
there's
a
splash
pad
or
a
splash,
a
water
featuring
almost
every
playground
in
New,
York,
City
and
and
they
love
it.
They
can't
go
into
into
the
pool
and
and
the
parents
can't
sit
there
and
watch
them
or
be
in
the
pool
with
them.
AR
This
is
a
great
way
to
accommodate
more
people
and
more
children
in
that
area,
and
it's
included
I
believe
it
was
included
in
the
part
of
the
quote
and
part
of
the
scope
of
how
many
people
that
would
require
it.
So
I
I
find
it
a
little
selfish.
When
someone
says
oh,
we
don't
want
a
splash
pad.
I
I
think
we
need
to
open
it
up
to
everybody
in.
In
that
same
train
of
thought,
I
was
encouraged
by
the
willingness
to
open
up.
AR
AR
AR
So
that's
something
that
has
to
be
addressed
so
I
mean
there's
many
things
that
have
to
be
addressed.
I,
like
the
idea
of
the
shape
of
the
pool
and
I.
Think
it's
because
it's
a
more
Progressive
thought
we
the
shape
of
the
pool.
It's
it's
not
like.
It's,
not
a
kid
drew
a
pool
up,
and
this
is
what
you're
going
to
go
in
it's
it.
AR
It
takes
into
account
different
age
groups,
different
swimming
skills
and
and
different
different
uses
of
this
pool
and
keeping
it
secluded
and
make
it
safer
and
easier
to
maintain
and
easy
easy
to
monitor
because
of
that
shape.
But
I
mean
that
being
said,
I
do
like
the
idea
of
the
smaller
pool,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
larger
than
than
what
was
proposed,
but
I
look
forward
to
a
modern
pool.
That's
going
to
last
as
many
many
years
to
come,
so
I
hope
it
happens.
I
hope
it
happens
real
soon.
Thank.
N
AR
N
I
mean
one
of
the
disappointing
things
that
I
see
around
the
nation
are
pools,
closing
and
it's
closing
because
of
a
lack
of
funds
to
be
able
to
operate
it.
You
know
there
are
plenty
of
private
facilities
that
only
open
for
a
couple
years
and
then
they
they
go
bankrupt
because
they
over
bill,
and
you
know
to
to
match
your
needs
to
what
the
city's
needs
are.
That's
that's
one
of
the
key
things
to
be
a
you
know,
a
a
not
a
drain
on
the
city.
You
know.
AR
AR
N
AR
AR
N
Something
yeah,
it's
certain,
so
I
mean
there
are.
There
are
for
the
city
of
Baltimore.
We
have
we're
working
in
some
diverse
areas
and
the
pools
that
we're
providing
probably
have
a
capacity
of
around
150,
but
they
don't
have
the
staff,
so
they
limit
the
amount
of
people
to
85,
so
they
essentially
over
built
in
those
cases
and
in
that
case
you'd
be
spending
money
to
overbuild
and
not
have
the
full
use
of
the
asset.
AI
N
AR
L
N
Yeah
one
more
item:
you
were
you,
you
had
brought
up
the
depth
and
another
item
is
obviously
environmental
impacts,
for
example
High
groundwater,
those
things
I
mean
there's,
there's
pools
that
are
we're
working
on
right
now.
We
could
only
get
four
feet
because
the
groundwater
is
too
severe.
You
know
the
the
cost.
The
engineering
cost
impact
to
get
deeper
just
outweighed
the
benefit.
Well,.
AR
N
Is
it
is
it's
more
cost
effective
way,
we're
looking
at
a
six
foot
depth
we're
going
to
be
able
to
now
incorporate
a
property
ordering
system?
We
won't
have
a
pipe
on
the
inside,
well
Nicole
and
the
we
also
have
the
ability,
with
with
a
new
pool,
to
be
able
to
correct
issues
of
the
past.
You
know
when
the
pool
was
put
in
in
38.
Civil
engineering
was
in
the
infancy.
You
know
there
wasn't
really
much
understanding
of
how
things
worked.
You
look
at
some
of
these
old
railroad
Bridges.
L
N
They
couldn't
they
couldn't,
you
know,
regulate
the
quality
of
Steel
that
was
produced.
You
know,
looking
at
the
modern
technology
that
we
have
now
we
got
to
do
you
know
we
got
to
build
the
foundation,
that's
not
going
to
sink
and
settle
it's
just
part
of
the
nature,
but
we
have
that
information
now
building
on
top
of
what's
old,
that's
what's
challenging.
R
B
Before
you
speak,
Mayor
Hopkins
I
just
wanted
to
mention
to
councilman
camera
pianos
point
about
the
the
operational
funding
of
the
pool
as
as
proposed
in
terms
of
the
lifeguards
and
the
cost.
I
know
way
back
in
2021
I
had
mentioned.
Even
then
the
idea
of
corporate
sponsorship.
You
know
there's
a
benefit
to
different
local
companies
or
state
companies
that,
if
they
put
their
name
on
the
bath
house
or
somewhere,
that
would
help
offset
the
costs
and
I
do
think.
D
You,
council,
president
councilman
campopiano
I
just
did
some
quick
figures
based
on
the
numbers
that
were
just
said
for
one
season
about
44
days
at
25
an
hour
just
for
lifeguards,
for
one
season
is
a
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
just
for
lifeguards
and
and
I
also
find
it
pretty
ironic
that
the
name
of
the
street
that
it's
built
on
is
called
the
aqueduct
which
to
me,
tells
me
in
1939
when
they
built
it.
They
put
it
over
some
pretty
wetlands.
AR
I
know,
there's
a
struggle
throughout
the
city.
This,
not
only
other
cities
and
the
the
state
beaches
to
to
get
people
it
had.
No,
it
had
nothing
to
do
with
I
had
no
problems
with
funding
it
I
just
I'm
concerned
with
Johnny,
goes
to
the
beach.
Instead
of
coming
to
the
pool
to
work
today
and
now
we
can't
open
the
pool,
we
have
to
turn
people
away.
That's
more
of
my
concern.
B
Yeah
no
I
I,
unders
I
understood
as
as
both
the
cost,
because
it
wasn't
just
you
just
in
the
discussion.
It
came
up
about
the
size
of
the
pool.
If
it
increases,
then
there
will
be
extra
costs
in
terms
of
the
water,
the
maintenance
it
would
increase
the
bathhouse
size,
so
is
that,
in
addition
to
you're
right,
there's
two
components
to
getting
people,
but
other
communities
have
been
creative
in
in
ways
in
terms
of
sometimes
it's
fire
department.
And
another
thing
I
haven't
said
out
loud
but
I
will
hear.
B
Is
that
and
I
know
of
of
some
students
there
are
high
school
students
in
our
high
schools
that
are
certified
lifeguards
and
as
part
of
our
high
school
education
program,
they
are
required
to
do
so.
Many
volunteer
hours.
It's
not
going
to
solve
the
whole
problem
for
the
whole
summer,
but
it
is
an
opportunity
for
them.
You
know
as
well,
so
you
know
we
can
be
creative,
like
every
other
city
has
been
with
their
pools
in
order
to
get
them
operational,
functional
as
a
benefit.
B
O
O
So
I
had
asked
at
the
last
meeting
if
it
could
perhaps
be
provided
some
kind
of
budget
estimate
concerning
cost
yearly
for
either
pool
whether
it's
22,
000
square
feet
or
7
000
square
feet.
We
can't
really
compare,
we
can
say
right
now:
5
million
to
3.5
million
or
9
million
to
5
million
to
3.5
million.
But
how
much
is
each
of
those
going
to
cost
us
going
forward
for
10
years
or
40
years,
and
can
we
pay
for
it?
O
Council
presidents
I
do
have
sponsorships
is
excellent,
but
we
don't
currently
have
that
working
for
us.
So
it's
just
an
idea
at
this
point.
How
much
is
this
going
to
cost
us?
Energy
costs
are
through
the
roof.
Pools
are
closing
around
the
country
and
even
in
Europe,
because
they
can't
pay
the
energy
costs.
We
need
to
keep
the
water
clean,
it
needs
to
be
flowing
I.
Imagine
the
more
water,
the
more
costs
for
water,
but
more
for
us
to
run
the
pumps
and
run
the
systems.
This
is
a
serious
question.
O
We
talk
all
the
time
about
being
fiscally
responsible,
whether
you're
on
one
side
or
the
other.
We
have
budgets
that
we
need
to
meet
and
we
have
people
that
don't
want
to
pay
more
taxes
every
single
year,
so
we
have
arpa
money
now
for
this
you
know
main
push
to
fix
something,
but
what
do
we
have
going
forward?
How
are
we
going
to
fund
this
when
we
still
have
to
fund
schools?
We
have
things
to
fund
year
after
year
they
just
come
out
of
nowhere,
so
I
need
some
numbers.
Can
anyone
help
me
with
that.
N
O
Okay,
thank
you,
I
think.
If
you
could
work
with
that,
Finance
director
on
that
I
think
that's
really
important
as
we
make
decisions
going
forward.
I
think
it's
quite
obvious
that
a
7,
000
square
foot
pool
is
going
to
be
less
to
staff,
take
less
water
and
take
more
take
less
energy,
but
to
have
the
numbers
that's
what
people
seem
to
want
is
real
facts
going
forward.
O
Okay,
next,
just
so
I'm
going
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
people
have
been
talking
about
misinformation
and
that
is
coming
from
all
different
places,
because
I
received
an
email
from
Cranston
forward,
which
is
a
political
action
committee
that
masquerades
as
a
community
group.
In
case
anyone
doesn't
know
what
a
action
committee
is.
It's
a
popular
term
for
a
political
committee
organized
for
the
purpose
of
raising
and
spending
money
to
elect
and
defeat
candidates,
but
they
appear
to
be
a
community
group.
O
They
are
different
but
coming
forward,
but
sending
out
information
saying
it
cost
eight
million
dollars
to
fund
Eatery
Park
is
not
true,
saying
that
the
mayor
spent
1.5
million
dollars
to
Turf
Westfield.
As
far
as
I
recall
is
not
true,
because
that
was
done
before
I
took
office,
I,
remember
that,
because
I
put
through
a
resolution
to
try
and
name
it
Fung
field,
so
that
was
done
before
we
got
here.
Okay,
so
that
didn't
happen
and
the
facts
are
not
straight
there.
O
O
Mariano
makes
an
outlandish
and
false
claim
that,
because
the
pool
has
a
maximum
bather
capacity
of
1200
based
on
National
standards
adopted
by
Rhode
Island,
the
city
would
be
forced
to
make
the
bath
house
large
enough
to
accommodate
1200
people
and
would
have
to
hire
enough
lifeguards
to
supervise
that
many
swimmers.
The
city
has
not,
at
least
in
recent
history,
allowed
even
close
to
1200
people
in
the
pool
at
one
time.
O
According
to
Mr
liberatory,
the
city's
policy
has
been
to
limit
the
pool's
capacity
to
350
people
at
any
time,
presumably
because
that
is
the
most
people
the
city
decided
could
enjoy
the
pool
at
one
time
and
be
safely
guarded,
but
by
Rhode
Island
law.
The
required
number
of
lifeguards
for
the
pool
is
based
on
its
size,
depth
and
dimensions,
not
the
maximum
number
of
people
who
can
be
legally
crammed
into
it.
O
The
fact
that
Ariana
would
say
something
like
this
shows
that
he
is
either
not
as
competent
as
his
resume
would
suggest,
or
it
is
not
providing
the
impartial
expertise
that
Cranston
voters
deserve
I,
don't
think
any
of
that
is
true
other
than
the
fact
that
it
holds
1200
people
means
that
it's
a
bigger
pool,
which
means
it
needs
more
lifeguards.
But
if
the
point
is
that
only
350
people
would
be
allowed
to
use
the
pool
I'm,
not
understanding.
Why
we're
arguing
for
a
pool
that
holds
1200,
you
can't
have
it
both
ways.
O
X
B
O
I
B
O
I
will
say
that
you
know
I,
truly
respect
all
the
people
who
have
come
forward.
Some
people
have
come
literally
18
times
every
time
this
has
been
on
the
docket
and
their
commitment
to
being
part
of
the
decision-making
process
in
this
city
is
highly
commendable,
and
it's
evident
that
the
pool
holds
a
special
place
in
their
hearts.
However,
it's
crucial
that
we
consider
the
broader
context
and
the
future
needs
of
this
community
if
we
are
talking
about
learning
to
swim,
because
we
all
know
that
that's
not
just
a
Pastime,
it's
a
life
skill.
O
O
Why
would
we
build
a
pool
pay
for
it
that
can
hold
1200
people
when
we're
going
to
limit
it
to
350
people
at
a
time
and
then
not
have
enough
lifeguards
to
even
be
there
for
the
1200
person
maximum
pool,
where
we
only
need
one
for
350
that
doesn't
make
any
sense.
Learning
to
swim
requires
a
consistent
and
appropriate
depth
of
water.
About
four
feet
is
the
general
sense
where
people
can
learn
to
swim
in
four
feet
of
water?
O
Yes,
most
small
children
who
are
learning
to
swim
can't
touch
the
bottom
and
four
feet
of
water
they're
going
to
be
prepared
to
swim
in
deeper
water,
it's
easier
for
instructors
in
four
feet
of
water.
That's
that's
just
a
fact!
So
if
someone
wants
to
Google
it,
they
can
but
anyone
who's,
pretending
that
we
need
nine
feet
of
water
to
teach
people
how
to
properly
swim.
Is
incorrect.
Councilman
Vargas
brought
up
a
great
point
about
liability.
O
We're
talking
about
insurance
on
this
Council
constantly
about
claims
about
health
insurance
about
anything
we
are
a
self-insured
community,
the
bigger
the
pool,
the
more
people
in
there
at
a
time
and
the
deeper
the
pool,
the
more
dangerous.
It
is,
that's
just
a
fact,
so
we
need
to
consider
these
options
that
doesn't
mean
that
anyone
up
here
doesn't
want
to
pool.
We
all
want
a
pool.
We
all
want
it
yesterday,
the
longer
we
make
this
take
the
less
likely
we're
going
to
have
a
pool
next
year.
That
is
most
convenient
for
people
running
for
office.
B
And
any
other
council
members
I
think
everyone's
already
been
heard.
Okay,
all
right
at
this
time.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
acquiescing
and
agreeing
to
hold
a
joint
session
with
us,
and
hopefully
this
was
a
productive
evening.
I
believe
that
it
was
so
at
this
time.
I
will
take
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
second,
any
discussion
there
being
none
nope,
the
clerk
of
Union.
Please
take
the
role
we're
all
set.