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From YouTube: Boris Stanley Interview with Mayor Darcy Paul
Description
Boris Stanley, a former Cupertino attorney who assisted the City in being incorporated, sits down for a conversation with Mayor Darcy Paul.
A
Ora
stanley,
who
is
one
of
the
people
who
was
very
involved
in
the
beginnings
of
the
technical
initiation
of
the
city
of
cupertino
orris,
was
an
attorney
in
cupertino
at
around
the
time
that
our
chamber
of
commerce
started
in
our
city,
which
was
a
few
years
prior
to
when
the
city
of
cupertino
itself
incorporated
and
boris,
is
a
spry
young,
95
years
old.
And
when
I
was
running
for
cupertino
city
council
in
2014
as
the
president
of
the
chamber
of
commerce.
Here,
I
guess
that
would
be
right.
A
And
so
I'm
just
so
very
delighted
today
to
be
able
to
bring
to
the
community
boris.
For
a
chat
with
with
the
mayor,
which
is
what
I
am
this
year-
and
I
am
for
the
second
year
now
in
2018-
I
was
mayor
the
first
time
and,
interestingly
enough,
that
was
actually
the
second
time
that
boris
and
I
met
in
person.
A
A
B
A
A
Earlier
this
week,
when
you
first
came
here,
we
were
able
to
give
you
a
van
tour
of
cupertino,
and
so
that
was
quite
nice
because
our
city
hall
needs
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
show
people
around
the
city,
and
you
know,
hopefully
the
the
tour
was
perhaps
not
as
unexpected
as
it
would
have
been
say,
five
or
six
years
ago,
when
you
had
first
revisited
cupertino
after
many
decades
away.
But
hopefully
the
van
tour
worked
out
pretty
well,
for
you
know
what
your
expectations
were,
and
you
know
it
was
enjoyable.
B
Well,
it
was
so
impressive
that
it
was
beyond
comprehension
to
try
to
compare
what
happened
66
years
ago
and
what
exists
now.
Then,
it
was
a
sleepy
community,
fairly
disparate
in
interest
farming
interests,
small
business
people,
things
of
that
kind,
but
physically,
of
course,
there's
no
comparison.
It's
it's
really
a
tribute
to
the
president's
city,
council
and
those
that
came
before
them
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
that's
when
the
heavy
listing.
As
I
mentioned,
I
I
like
to
think
of
myself
as
the
midwife
for
cupertino.
B
However,
as
a
midwife,
that
obligation
really
ceases
right
after
birth,
and
that
was
pretty
much
what
happened
here,
although
there
were
other
reasons
why
I
didn't
get
further
involved.
As
time
went
on,
I
opened
another
office
and
so
on,
but
so
far
as
the
city
itself
is
concerned,
I
hope
it
never
gets
any
bigger,
which
is
maybe
impossible.
B
It
seems
to
me
big
enough
to
be
sophisticated,
but
and
still
interesting
without
being
suffocating.
There
are
physically
it's
I.
I
was
unable
to
identify
anything
by
physically
looking
at
a
street,
a
name,
a
building
because
they're
all
changed
and
it's
impressive
and
the
comparison,
if
you
want
to
make
it
with
parenthood.
B
There
was
a
butcher
shop
at
the
back,
the
owner
had
a
wholesale
butcher
shop.
He
supplied
the
growers
around
here.
There
were
no
side,
I'm
on
stevens,
creek,
boulevard
right
and
I'm
just
off
of
what
used
to
be
highway.
Nine
at
dianza
boulevard,
just
a
few
hundred
yards
and
it's
dirt,
there's
no
curbs
and
the
the
asphalt
is
missing
and
one
way
in
which
we
found
that
somebody
was
coming
for
an
appointment.
B
Is
the
dust
would
sift
through
the
front
door
so
but
seriously
in
so
far
as
my
going
on
to
a
question
you
haven't
asked,
but
so
far
as
my
participation
here,
I
think
it's
fortuitous.
I
was
a
young
guy
in
my
20s
and
middle
twenties
and
I
just
had
a
couple
of
years
in
a
large
farming
country
county,
and
I
was
second
in
command.
There
decided,
after
some
time
and
into
the
second
year
that
I
wanted
to
get
into
private
practice.
B
The
bureaucracy
of
county
government,
the
politicization
of
so
many
things,
was
not
attractive.
I
wanted
to
be
practicing
law
and
also,
coincidentally,
we
had
just
indicted
the
district
attorney
for
corruption
and
depending
on
where
your
sympathies
lie.
If
he
got
indicted,
it's
one
thing
and
successfully
prosecuted,
but
if
he
didn't
you've
lost
your
job
so
anyway,
I
decided
to
pick
up
my
little
family
rent,
a
truck
and
come
to
silicon
valley.
I
was
born
in
san
francisco,
so
this
area
is
kind
of
my
hometown.
B
A
A
Sort
of
industry-
you
know,
location,
and
you
know
I
can
say
that
I
very
much
relate
with
what
you're
describing
having
come
from.
You
know
also
a
very
esteemed
educational
institution
on
the
other
coast
right
you're,
a
stanford
law
grad,
I'm
a
harvard
law
grad
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
was
going
to
manhattan
to
work
corporate
work
right
in
order
to
pay
off.
A
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
and
my
mother
kind
of
had
other
plans,
so
I
had
a
step-uncle,
you
might
say
and
he's
a
aeronautical
engineer
and
had
an
opportunity
to
go
to
seattle.
So
I
had
spent
my
high
school
time.
There
got
a
wonderful
education
there
in
a
high
school
broadway.
High
school
doesn't
exist
anymore,
it's
gone,
but
there's
a
thing
that
maybe
you
gals
would
appreciate.
B
B
The
war
was
a
couple
years
in
and
I
decided
I
wanted
to
join,
but
I
did
need
a
parental
consent
which
I
I
got
without
any
trouble
and
joined
the
naval
air
corps
and
got
a
medical
discharge
because
reasons
that
aren't
important
and
turn
around
join
the
regular
navy.
And
so
I
was
in
the
regular
navy
for
three
years
in
the
pacific
theater
and
after
that
I
took
advantage
of
the
scholarship
I
had
to
stanford,
as
well
as
the
gi
bill.
B
There
was
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
especially
in
your
undergraduate
years.
It
was
a
little
more
difficult
in
your
senior
years,
and
so
I
had
seven
academic
years
there
after
that
went
to
oh.
I
want
to
point
out
too
that
might
be
of
interest
anecdotally
in
my
high
school
it
was.
It
was
really
highly
rated,
even
even
for
seattle
for
academically
and
their
teaching
core,
and
we
had
a
substantial
japanese
population.
Also
a
chinese
population,
but
mainly
japanese,
was
this
in
seattle
pardon
this
was
in
seattle
yeah.
B
B
B
B
My
background
and
they
they
in
order
to
escape
the
communist
revolutionaries,
they
had
to
go
east
and
that
went
through
siberia
and
they
actually
were
in
china
a
while
they
didn't
know
each
other,
but
they
were
in
china
for
a
while
ended
up.
Finally,
in
the
philippines,
because
american
protectorate,
the
president
at
that
time,
said,
let's
make
him
political
refugees,
so
he
sent
some
transports
over.
B
So
that's
why
I
was
born
in
san
francisco
and
not
new
york
and
we
lived
there
for
a
short
time
anyway.
My
as
far
as
my
career
was
concerned
after
I
went
to
stanford-
and
I
immediately
had
got
a
job
in
in
the
county
down
in
central
california,
and
was
there
a
couple
of
years
and
give
you
a
little
anecdote
about
the
experience
there.
You
did
everything
except
you
didn't
have
to
do
the
floors
and
do
pull
out
the
garbage,
but
but
everything
else
you
doubled
in
space.
B
I
had
magistrate
experience
as
a
result
of
when
there's
a
criminal
activity
that
the
government
is
concentrating
on.
There
are
two
ways
to
go
with
a
grand
jury
or
by
information,
and
the
information
process
requires
some
additional
check
before
they
bind
you
over
to
superior
court.
In
this
case,
a
superior
court
for
trial
because
they
don't
want
somebody
for
the
the
district
attorney
is
a
political
job
and
you're
elected
to
it.
You're
not
appointed
to
it,
so
they
don't
want
that
used
as
a
hammer
for
enemies.
B
Anyway,
I
had
the
experience
of
hearing
cases
to
find
out
that
there
was
sufficient
cause
to
bind
them
over
superior
court
for
trial.
I
also
a
bill
collector.
I
we,
you
know,
california,
has
a
personal
property
tax
in
the
county
that
I
was
in,
they
had
some
mining
and
the
mining
equipment
is,
is
expensive
and
it's
cumbersome
so
but
people
weren't
paying
their
taxes,
so
I
decided
they
should
as
a
consequence,
and
they
were
all
over
the
country,
the
people
that
owned
it.
B
B
It
was
nearing
time
and
I
thought
to
myself:
there's
a
guy,
that's
pushing
60
and
he's
going
to
protect
me
and
we're
going
down
these
roads,
60
or
70
miles
an
hour
to
go
in
the
hills
where
the
mining
is
and
he's
going
like
this
and
talking
to
me
back
there
anyway.
I
I
thought
that
old
guy
is
going
to
protect
me
now.
B
B
This
area
here
happened
to,
we
found
a
place
that
was
inexpensive
and
that
was
really
closer
to
cupertino
than
sunnyvale,
but
it's
just
off
highway
9
a
little
bit
north
of
downtown
at
that
time-
and
I
was
in
this
community
looking
around
and
I
said,
gee
there's,
no,
no
lawyers
that
are
have
an
office
that
a
lot
of
lawyers
have
done
here,
but
they
were
in
san
jose.
So
I
thought
how
about
this
and
found
this
shack
and
told
you
about
the
butcher
shop
ahead?
So
what?
A
Tulare,
okay,
so
you
were
in
tulare
for
a
couple
of
years
and
then
you
moved
over
to
this
area
to
young
cupertino.
I
take
it
in
the
1940
late,
1953,
okay,
sort
of
early
to
mid
1950s,
and
I
know
I
know
for
a
fact
right
around
that
time
is
when
the
chamber
of
commerce
incorporated.
So
it
sounds
like
you
didn't
waste
any
time
you
found
that
office
in
the
back
of
the
butcher
shop
and
just
for
reference,
you
said
you
found
a
pretty
affordable
house.
A
B
B
So
they
gave
you
an
additional
stipend
simply
because
you
were
born
here
and
you're
a
veteran
so
that
helped
as
a
matter
of
fact,
in
my
senior
did
more
than
help
in
my
senior
year
in
law,
school
financially,
I
was
right
at
the
edge
and
for
any
further
pr
any
further
support
or
help,
and
that
thousand
dollars
made
a
hell
of
a
difference.
In
those
days.
She
was
imagining
made
a
big
difference
in
those
days,
so.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
that
that
helps
to
to
place
that
corner
a
brick
building
a
bank
is
there
right
now
it
sounds
like
so
you
know
it
does
seem
like
you
didn't
waste
any
time
you
came
into
cupertino,
you
have
the
30
monthly
rent
office
in
the
back
of
the
butcher
shop.
You
know
people
are
coming
in
by
the
dust
coming
under
the
door
when
they
you
know
open
it.
A
A
lot
of
these
memories
come
back
right,
I
mean
it's,
it's
really
quite
striking,
and
and
so
I
I
take
it-
you
probably
started
immediately
meeting
some
of
the
owners
of
local
businesses.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
about
that
community.
When
you
first
came
into
here,
because
of
course
cupertino
at
that
time
wasn't
yet
the
city
of
cupertino.
You
know.
B
I
had
I
had
the
secretary
I
ended
up
with.
I
was
very,
very,
very
fussy
about
it
and
I
paid
a
few
bucks
more
just
to
do
that
and
I
had
the
greatest
invention
at
that
time.
An
ibm
typewriter,
plus
you've
got
my
talent
and
the
combination
of
those
put
me
in
a
position
where
it
was.
I
had
the
mechanical
logistical
minor
support
as
it
were,
but
never
left
support
and
when
the
chamber
of
commerce
they
called
themselves
that,
but
they
weren't
incorporated
they
weren't
organized
they
weren't
connected
with
the
national
organization.
B
B
A
B
A
And
advice-
and
maybe
you
were
the
only
one
in
fact,
use
that
experience
and
expertise
a
couple
of
very
brief
years
later
to
help
with
the
legal
background
of
how
you
get
a
city
formally
recognized
such
as
cupertino,
so
wondering
if
you'd
like
to
speak
to
that
as
well.
So
so
you've
got
the
various
incorporation
committees.
You've
got
your
specific
role
in
terms
of
how
our
city,
how
our
fair
city
came
to
relatively.
B
Come
to
there
are
several
questions
in
your
in
your
questioning.
As
far
as
the
chamber
was
concerned,
you
know
I've
kind
of
addressed
that
as
far
as
the
corporation
concerned,
the
vital
problem
is,
I
saw
it.
Then
it
was
everybody
talking
a
lot
about
it
nobody's
doing
anything
and
we
had
the
farmers
that
had
their
own.
You
might
say
committee
that
were
addressing
that.
We
had
the
business
people,
they
were
doing
to
a
certain
extent
and
we
had
a
couple
of
the
monte
vista
people
also
on
their
own
were
investigating
it.
B
But
while
they
were
doing
that,
rome
was
burning
because
sunnyvale
san
jose
santa
clara
put
out
their
tentacles
of
annexation
and
early
on
it
was
legal
to
make
annexations
based
on
strip
what
they
call
strip
annexation.
They
take
a
road
and
then
they
cherry
pick
areas
that
they
thought
they
would
want
to
have
so
far
as
part
of
their
city
and
they'd.
Take
the
prime
party
parts
of
that
acquisition
and
they
there's
no
vote
or
anything
necessary
because
nobody
lives
on
the
street.
B
B
Saratoga
wasn't
doing
much
in
that
regard,
but
they
were
all
there,
and
I
said
to
myself
as
an
attorney.
What
do
you
do?
The
first
thing
that
occurs
to
me
is
go
to
court.
You
know
the
trouble
with
that
is,
first
of
all,
it's
expensive,
probably
indecisive
and
time
consuming
and
may
not
do
the
job,
because
you'd
have
to
have
restraining
orders.
They'd
have
to
be
generated,
they'd
have
to
give
a
chance
for
a
response
from
the
cities.
I
mean
that
is
just
a
nightmare.
B
B
The
annexations
and
I
thought
my
god
that's
the
way
to
go,
but
then
you
know
you
got
to
execute.
How
are
you
going
to
get
you?
You
can't
just
go
out
and
say:
hey
guys,
sign
this
petition,
of
course,
so
you've
got
to
go,
you
got
to
prepare
it.
That's
my
ibm
typewriter,
you
got
to
circulate
it
and
that
was
done
through
you
know.
I
just
there's
no
emails
and
things
like
that
in
those
days,
so
they
had
to
be
physically
done
and
I
employed
members
of
the
chamber
and
people
and
they
were
listen.
B
There
were
other
people
involved
in
this
too.
They
were
interested.
It's
like
I
said,
monte
vista
had
its
deal
and
I
think
it
was
the
farmers
that
started
to
get
research
on
the
viability
financially
of
incorporation.
They
had
the
korah
foundation.
Do
a
survey,
and
I
looked
at
that.
I
got
the
benefit
of
that.
I'm
sorry.
B
It
and
I'm
yeah,
I'm
pretty
sure
anywhere.
I
had
to
fight.
I
had
the,
but
what
bothered
me
not
that
I'm
a
great
analyst
on
finances,
but
I
was
afraid
that
what
they
had
was
too
small
and
not
financially
viable
as
a
city,
and
I
attempted
then
to
by
publication-
and
I
I
got
to
give
credit
to
one
person
bill
norton,
who
was
the
publisher
of
the
computer
courier
in
those
days,
a
nice
affable
guy.
B
B
Yeah
but
you're,
it's
not
a
friendly
provocation,
okay
yeah,
but
they
did
cover
it.
You
know,
but
and
not
too
much
the
post
at
the
after
the
election
yeah
after
successful
creation
of
the
city,
there
was
coverage,
but
beforehand
you
know
as
a
third
cousin.
So
far
as
coverage
is
concerned,
and
also
you
have
to
understand
that
this
was
not
in
any
way.
There
were
no
uniting
cords
in
the
community.
B
Every
small
businessman
was
trying
to
get
ahead
and-
and
he
was
not
really
concerned
about
incorporation
too
much,
and
he
didn't
have
the
time
and
getting
back
to
the
chamber.
I
was
the
first
president.
Actually
I
was
the
de
facto
president
for
a
number
of
years,
because
I
was
there.
People
knew
me.
B
B
I
was
known
even
in
that
short
time
that
I
was
there
so
and
and
also
the
first.
I
I
served
for
a
short
time.
Officially.
Did
your
attorneys
like
to
call
it,
but
I
didn't
have
the
time
to
devote
to
going
to
meetings
and
which
sometimes
are
just
ceremonial.
You
know
I
hear
you,
I
don't
have
that
kind
of
time
completely
understood
and
I'm
a
one
man
operation.
B
So
we
the
first
guy
that
volunteered
to
take
my
place.
It
was
immediately
transferred
to
san
francisco.
He
worked
for
chevrolet
on
a
regional
basis.
He
wasn't
a
salesman
or
anything,
but
so
he
he
lost
his
position
here
and
he
disappeared
and
we
had
a
couple
of
others.
They
they.
We
even
had
some
stationary
printed
with
somebody's
name
on
it,
never
served.
B
A
But
I
think
it's
fair,
it
does
sound
like
as
you're
recollecting
it
you
were
able
to
look
at
the
insight
and
go
hey.
Look,
you
know
if
you
really
want
to
stop
the
annexation
monster
right,
I
mean
one
surefire
way
to
do.
It
is
just
to
start
initiating
incorporation
attempts,
and
so
it
does
sound
like
a
number
of
signatures
had
to
be
gathered,
and
I
would
also
2200
about
200.
B
A
A
B
B
B
A
B
Let's
keep
the
tax
base
low.
Let's
give
us
the
green
building
so
that
we
can
have
lower
taxes.
The
businessman
says:
hey,
I
can't
afford
it
house
owner
says:
I
don't
want
it
now.
I
mean
that
was
the
biggest
opposition.
Actually,
the
prince,
you
could
have
a
if
it's
at
least
ten
thousand
square
foot
home
you
didn't
have
to
have
a
sewer,
so
you
could
have
a
septic
tank
and
he
didn't
want
a
sewer.
He
doesn't
want
sidewalks
and
he
doesn't
want
the
city.
B
You
know
he
had
the
bureaucracy,
you
had
the
taxes,
you
had
more
regulation,
so
those
were
those
are
counter,
intuitive
or
counterproductive.
So
far
as
a
getting
incorporation
and
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
I
realized
shortly
before
the
election
occurred,
that
we
better
have
a
town
hall
meeting
and
and
let
everybody
vent
their
spleen.
Tell
us
about
that.
Yeah.
B
It
was
for
one
thing:
I
I
really
had
no
authority
to
do
anything
I
mean
I'm
doing
it
just
doing
it
there.
Nobody
said
boris,
go
out
and
find
somebody
and
do
this,
but
I
I
said
to
myself
who,
in
the
in
the
area,
is
apolitical,
someone
that
you're
not
going
to
get
excited
about,
and
I
thought
of
the
superintendent
of
schools-
okay,
but
gentleman
by
the
name
of
darrell,
cedric
and
really
a
nice
guy.
I
thought
he
was
a
perfect
person
for
it.
B
Well,
as
it
turned
out,
it
was
almost
critically
a
bad
choice,
oh
really,
for
the
reason
that
he's
just
what
he
is
affable
when
we
got
into
the
town
meeting,
which
was
held
at
homestead
high
school
and
it
was
over
packed.
The
vociferous
opponents
were
vociferous
and
poor
daryl
that
isn't
his
area
of
expertise.
He
could
not
handle
the
crowd
interesting.
So
I
I
would
this
may
seem
a
modest,
but
I
have
I
have
affirmation
of
it.
I
got
up
and
took
over.
B
You
know
I've
had
that
plus
I
have
had
because
I'm
a
member
of
various
community
things
public
speaking
ability,
but
I
I
got
up
anyway
and
I
started
saying:
look
let's,
let's
settle
down
and
let's
just
evaluate
this
and
blah
blah
you're
gonna
have
taxes,
regulation,
bureaucracy,
but
you're
going
to
have
self-government,
self-government,
you're,
going
to
be
able
to
determine
where
your
taxes
go.
When
they
tax
you
for
city
purposes,
they
go
for
city
purposes.
B
B
I
had
the
fortitude
because
of
my
experience
on
a
county
level
and
also
I
was
in
the
city
attorney's
office
in
south
san
francisco
for
a
short
time
before
I
opened
my
office,
oh
interesting,
so
I
I
was
familiar
with
the
league
of
california
cities
and
I
managed
to
talk
them
into
sending
the
general
counsel.
He
said
we
listen,
we
don't
we're,
not
political.
B
We
don't
want
to
be
in
this
kind
of
thing
and
I
said,
look
what
I
want
you
to
be
able
to
do
is
factually
a
state
anything
people
are
saying
this
is
going
to
cost
you
a
hundred
dollars
for
every
thousand
dollar
valuation.
It's
going
to
cost
you
10
cents.
I
said
all
I
want
you
to
do
is
when
it
comes
to
a
fact.
B
A
fact
straighten
it
out,
stand
up,
you
know
or
I'll,
ask
you
and
I'll
and
I'll
control
the
meeting.
So
they
don't
ask
you
questions
that
gets
you
in
the
political
part
of
it,
so
that
you
can.
We
can
be
speaking
from
somebody
with
experience,
has
no
acts
to
grind
anyway.
He
finally
just
said
I'll
come
on
those
on
those
basis,
if
you
guarantee
that
control,
so
he
he
showed
up
and
it
was
just
his
appearance.
There
was
helpful
and
the
few
times
that
I
had
to
refer
to
him
to
buttress.
B
An
argument
factually
was
helpful
and
as
a
consequence
and
I'm
tooting
my
own
horn.
Afterwards,
a
couple
of
us
on
the
committee
of
the
clerk
incorporation
committee
went
to
the
local
waterhole
and
it
was
close
to
midnight.
It
was
late
and
this
general
council
was
in
the
car
and
he
turned
to
me-
and
he
said
boris
you
know,
but
for
you
I
think
this
thing
got
gone
in
the
tank.
B
Now,
that's
an
overstatement!
There's
no
question
about
that,
but
if
you'd
waited
much
longer
to
incorporate
in
any
situation,
particularly
in
cupertino,
you
would
you'd
have
to
question
viability
financially,
because
you'd
have
less
geography,
sure
and
when
I
manage
just
before
election
two
to
get
as
a
matter
of
fact
that
picture
of
me
with
warner
wilson
and
don
banley,
yes,
shows
me
looking
at
an
an
expanded
picture
of
the
area
to
be
incorporated
right
and
financially.
B
That
was
crucial,
and
so
that
happened,
which
was
very
beneficial,
but
he
said,
but
for
that
incorporation
may
not
have
occurred.
Who
knows,
but
the
thing
is
if
it
was
delayed
that
could
have
been
crucial
because
I,
despite
the
fact
that
I
think
I
did
an
awful
lot
during
that
time.
It
takes
everybody
and
it's
going
to
take
the
people
sure
you
know
to
come
be
I
mean
the
the
last
analysis
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
have
to
decide
otherwise,
you're
gonna,
you
don't
have
anything.
B
So
was
it
a
perfect
storm
or
maybe
so,
but
was
I
in
the
middle
of
it?
I
suppose
so
and
that's
the
reason.
I
think
the
saying
that
I
I
am
the
midwife
of
cupertino,
I
think,
is
apropos
because
my
job
kind
of
stopped
at
that
at
the
delivery
time
and
then
you
guys
took
over
meaning
your
councilman
and
for
66
years
I
didn't
care
for
the
first
council
when
they
were
elected,
even
though
they
were
some
most
of
my
clients.
B
B
B
There
was
a
friend
of
one
of
the
councilmen
who
lived
and
practiced
in
san
francisco
and
that
ticked
me
off
I
mean
and
frankly,
if
they
gave
me
the
job,
I
think
it
would
have
been
a
disadvantage
to
my
career
because
it
would
have
taken
so
much
time
for
a
new
city.
You'd
be
babysitting
them
on
every
aspect
of
it
until
you
know
again,
there's
no
experience
there
at
all.
There's
no
familiarity
with
any
of
the
state
statutes
and
sure
california
is
pretty
well
regulated
in
that
regard.
B
So
I
I
doubt
if
I
would
have
lasted,
but
the
other
thing
is
I
got
out
of
that
below
by
leaving
to
larry
county.
Why
do
I
want
to
get
into
it,
but
nevertheless
it
hurts
it
hurt
and
that's
why
I'm
so
thankful
that
in
my
waning
years,
they're
recognizing
what
I
did
and
they
were
quick
to
take
advantage
of
me
look
you've
got
somebody
who's
working
for
nothing.
A
B
B
B
I
think
there
was
an
impetus
created
there,
but
I
can't
honestly
tell
you
why
if
I
can
use
the
expression,
seize
the
range
and
started
to
do
all
of
that,
but
what
I
have
been
describing,
but
I
I
you
know.
First
of
all,
I
have
a
believer
that
attorneys
have
a
couple
of
obligations
that
aren't
in
the
law
books.
One
is
ethics,
sure
and
the
other
one's
public
service
you've
got
civil
servants
and.
B
One
thing
stanford
taught:
I
don't
know
if
they
teach
that
anymore.
I
doubt
it
because
I've
got
occasionally
hired.
Some
attorneys,
I'm
disappointed,
but
let's
not
get
into
that,
but
I
I
can't
as
to
how
and
why
I
mean
how
I
know,
but
why
I
was
in
the
middle
of
it
and
listen
I'm
not
kidding
geographically.
As
I
said,
I
have
an
office
and
I
have
a
secretary
and
I'd
be.
A
B
A
B
A
Yeah,
and
so
that's,
but
what
I
was
saying
is
that
you
really
did
see
kind
of
that
sense
of
civic
optimism
coming
off
the
page
when
the
courier
was
quoting
what
you
were
saying,
some
of
the
ideas
that
you
had
and
I
can
very
much
see
why
that
translated
into
hey.
You
know,
we've
got
this
interest,
I
I
have
you
know
civic
conscientiousness,
I'm
gonna
do
this,
you
know
and
and
go
forward
with
it,
but
then,
of
course
you
run
into.
As
you
know,
all
of
us
do
some
practical
walls.
A
B
Yeah,
so
you
just
keep
swimming
and
I
think
that's
what
happened
there.
People
were
worried
about
what
was
happening
so
far
as
encroachment
from
other
cities,
the
lack
of
of
being
able
to
adjust
your
future
accordingly,
and
I
guess
there
was
an
affinity
to
cupertino.
You
know
I
mean
I
think,
by
living
in
an
area
growing
there
and
being
born
there,
that
you
do
feel
kind
of
defensive
when
somebody's
intruding
with
interests
that
aren't
yours.
B
B
That's
the
fighting
fee
for
the
secretary
of
state
yeah.
It
was
pretty
cheap
in
those
days,
okay.
Well
also,
I
think
there
was
a
special
rate,
because
the
chamber
of
commerce
is
not
a
commercial
enterprise
per
se
right
per
se,
but
say
by
the
way
I've
been
on
since
we've
been
talking
some
months
ago.
You
put
down
the
meeting
of
this
with
the
chamber
sure
I
can't
I'm
really
impressed
with
what
they're
doing
I
mean
that
is
so
much
over
what
we
were
capable
of
even
thinking
about.
Well,
a
lot
of
it.
B
A
I'm
almost
tempted
to
name
the
name.
Let
me
stop
you
there
I
mean
I
I
think.
Suffice
it
to
say
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
where
we're
at.
We
can
all
help
each
other
in
various.
You
know
capacities,
and
you
know
I
I
think
even
the
youngest
person
can
show
us
some
wisdom,
and
sometimes
you
know,
and
I'm
not
directing
this
at
you.
The
eldest
among
us
may,
you
know,
show
some
some
some
petulance
in
some
respects
right.
B
A
You
know
I,
I
really
think
that
it's
quite
redeeming-
and
I
I
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
on
behalf
of
our
community
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
cupertino,
everything
that
you've
done
not
just
in
the
time
of
incorporation
but
coming
back
and
reaching
back
out,
and
you
know
taking
an
interest
in
what
has
happened
to
this
city
that
you
did
help
midwife
into
it's
it's
incipient
years.
So
boris,
you
know
it's
been
a
pleasure.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
the
people
watching
this
in
our
community
and
and
perhaps
abroad.
We
thank
you
very
much.
Hopefully
this
turns
into
the
initiation
of
a
series
of
conversations.
I
thought
this
was
very
illuminating
personally
and
you
know
you're
always
welcome
in
cupertino
know
that
you
have
a
a
special
place
in
in
the
heart
of
our
city.
B
Well,
thank
you
for
the
questions
and
it
helps
a
lot
of
thing
at
times
to
just
get
it
off
your
chest.
If
you
want
to
put
it
that
way,
I
haven't
reminisced
like
this
for
so
long
that
thank
you
for
the
questions
darcy
and
by
the
way,
not
to
be
commercial
about
it,
but
thank
you
for
the
what
you've
done
this
week
and
the
council
and
the
people
that
have
contributed
time
and
effort
and
attendance.
B
It's
been
enjoyable.
Thank
you
and
I'm
glad
I
made
the
effort
because,
with
the
my
wife
who
is
not
as
mobile
as
I
am
and
so
on,
it
was
a
question
of
whether
we
could
make
it
and
whether
we'd
be
able
to
handle
it
and
it's
been
close,
but
we've
managed
to
do
it
so
with
the
help
of
people
like
where
we're
staying
so
anyway.
Thank
you,
too.
Thank
you.