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Coverage of the November 10, 2022 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
A
D
Good
evening,
chair,
sharp
Hugo
is
not
available
right
now,
but
she
will
be
coming
later.
So
I
will
take
her
spot
to
do
the
roll
call.
So
cheer
sharp
presents.
Yes.
D
E
D
Rick
commissioner
saxena.
D
Thank
you.
We
have
all
five
presidents.
C
Okay,
very
good,
so
our
first
item
of
business,
you
know
I'm
having
trouble
bringing
the
agenda
up.
If
can
you
put
it
up
on
the
screen?
Maybe.
G
I
can
do
that
or
okay.
Would
you
like
to.
B
H
B
C
B
E
B
F
B
Okay,
wonderful
so.
A
H
C
Was
what
I
was
suggesting
that
we're
supposed
to
allow
comment
on
on
that?
So
we
only
go
to
participants.
F
J
B
G
Motion
carries
four
zero
one
yeah.
G
I
miscalled
the
vice
chair's
name.
Oh.
C
All
right
now
we're
on
to
oral
Communications.
This
is
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
any
item,
not
on
the
agenda
that
is
under
the
purview
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
each
person
will
get
three
minutes.
So
please
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
the
attendees.
C
B
Yeah,
we
cannot
hear
you
there's
a
huge
Echo
wait.
K
K
All
right,
so
my
name
is
actually
Stephen
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
should
be
speaking
now,
because
I
want
to
speak
about
the
the
Marina
Plaza
development
and.
C
Okay
right
right,
that's
actually
the
only
other
item
on
the
agenda,
so
everything
coming
very
soon.
Okay,
so
see
it.
Let
me
check
one
more
time.
C
No
one
has
their
hand
raised
for
oral.
Let
me
go
back
to
the
agenda.
Okay,
there's
nothing
on
consent,
so
we
are
on
to
item
two
consider
development,
permit,
tentative,
math
and
Architectural
and
site
approval
to
consider
the
demolition
of
approximately
44
000
square
feet
of
existing
commercial
and
the
construction
of
three
mixed-use
buildings,
with
approximately
forty
one
thousand
two
hundred
sixty
eight
feet
of
commercial
space
and
206
condominium
units
and
the
treatment
removal
permit
to
allow
the
removal
and
replacement
of
92
trees.
C
I
D
All
right
good
evening,
can
you
all
see
my
my
screen
and
the
presentation.
We
do
all
right
right,
I'm
actually
doing
this
from
home
tonight,
I
usually
have
three
big
screens
and
I
only
have
one
big
one,
little
tiny
one.
So
that's
good
to
know.
Okay,.
J
D
Yes,
yes,
I'm
John,
martir,
Senior
planner,
with
a
playing
division
within
the
community
development
department
and
I've,
been
the
project
manager
for
the
Marine
development
since
end
of
August,
and
so
I'm
pleased
to
bring
this
to
the
Forefront
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
the
Cupertino
community.
So
as
as
chair
Scharf
had
explained.
D
The
subject
of
this
of
this
of
this
product
of
this
item
is
the
Marita
Plaza
project,
which
is
to
consider
the
development,
permanent,
tentative
map
and
architecture
site
approval
to
consider
the
demolition
of
the
existing
Marina
Plaza,
which
is
approximately
44
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
the
construction
of
three
mixed
use.
Buildings
was
approximately
41
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
206
condominium
units
and
the
tree
and
moon
permit
to
remove
and
replace
the
Knight
to
development
trees.
D
The
applications
as
discussed
were
the
development
permit
with
an
addendum
to
the
prior
mitigated
negative
declaration,
an
architectural
site
approval
best
in
tentative
map
and
a
treatable
permit.
D
So
here's
the
project
location
as
you
can
see,
there's
two
Parcels,
one
larger
one
and
one
smaller
one.
The
larger
one
is
the
current
location,
the
Marine
of
foods,
with
the
smaller
one
being
the
on
corner
of
Alves
drive
and
North
De
Anza
Boulevard,
where
the
Mandarin
Gourmet
restaurant
is
located
at
there's
four
streets
that
are
adjacent
to
this
development.
D
You
have
a
mixture
of
of
four
plexes
as
well
as
retail
Stevens
Creek
is,
of
course
you
have
a
retail
at
the
crossroads
Center
across
the
street
from
that
and
adjacent
to
the
south
of
of
this
side
as
well
as
you
have
the
Apple
Office
Buildings
of
the
South
and
the
banks
in
the
banks
of
America
and
to
the
east.
You
have
St
Joseph's,
Catholic
Church
and
the
Northeast
single
family,
so
this
has
been
identified
as
a
priority
housing
site
and
currently
the
draft
of
the
of
the
new
housing
helmet.
D
D
When
this
project
came
in
in
March
of
this
year,
this
was
a
SB
330
application.
Sb33
applications
can
only
be
reviewed
for
the
conformance
to
objective
standards
and
what
limits
the
the
decision-making
bodies
to
any
subjective
standards
at
all.
It
also
limits
certain
things
like
the
amount
of
meetings
we
can
have
when
you're
doing
this
project
is
limited
cap
to
five
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
D
So
the
project
data
as
discussed,
there's
three
residential
commercial
mixed-use
buildings,
building
a
b
and
c
I'll
go
over
that
on
the
site
plan
within
the
next
few
slides
building
a
is
a
five-story
building
with
56
condominium,
residential
Condominiums
and
9
300
square
feet
of
ground
floor.
Retail
Building
B
is
a
four-story
building
with
A6
condo,
residential
condos
and
22
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
Building
C
is
a
five-story
building
with
64
residential
Condominiums
and
about
9
400
square
feet
of
retail.
D
There
is
one
level
below
garage
below
ground
garage
under
each
building,
with
approximately
420
parking
spaces,
there'll
be
171
on-site
off-site
on-site
off-site.
Excuse
me
tree
replacements
for
the
92
that
will
be
removed
and
the
best
intent
of
the
map
will
actually
merge
both
Parcels.
So
you
really
had
this
one
large
parcel
sand
with
the
residential
Condominiums
coming
in
later
under
a
condo
map,
so
here's
the
site,
as
you
see,
we
have
building
a
located
right
here
in
the
Northwest
North.
D
Excuse
me,
Northeast
of
the
property
on
the
corner
of
on
the
south
east
corner
of
North,
De
Anza
and
Alice
Drive
Building
B
right
here
is
on
the
northwest
portion
of
the
of
the
side
on
the
Southeast
corner
of
banley
In-House
and
then,
finally,
you
have
Building
C,
which
is
on
the
southern
end
of
the
project,
where
you
have
also
just
along
the
the
easement,
the
easement
that
connects
between
Stevens
Creek
and
to
the
rest
of
the
project.
D
So
if
this
Marina
paths
and
development
sounds
familiar,
it's
because
it
should
be.
This
was
approved.
A
prior
version
of
this
was
approved
in
2016.
this,
but
that
development
was
slightly
different.
They
had
188
Apartments,
approximately
22
600
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
122
room
hotel
and
the
council
at
the
time
did
approve
a
five-year
da
and
project
with
the
project,
approval
that
went
from
September
20th
2016
and
expired
on
September
20th
2021.
D
So,
as
was
shown
in
the
staff
report,
what
were
what
are
the
differences?
So
here's
a
comparison
table
the
show
what
was
approved
back
then
and
was
proposed
now.
As
you
see,
we've
have
almost
doubled
the
amount
of
commercial
for
this
project,
as
was
last
time
no
Hotel.
This
time
around.
D
In
terms
of
residential,
we
had
a
188
apartments
and
now
we're
now
they're
proposing
206
Condominiums
BMR
units
in
2016
there
were
16,
very
low
income
units
where,
whereas
now
we
are
now,
we
are
excuse
me,
the
developers
proposing
36
units
18
median
income
units
and
18
moderate
income
building
Heights
at
the
time,
were
around
maximums
of
45
feet,
whereas
now
they
vary
between
44
and
58
and
a
half
feet
and
the
building
area
is,
is
a
little
bit
quite
a
bit
larger
where
it
was
390
000
square
feet.
D
So
this
part
of
this
application
is
a
density
bonus
with
the
waiver
request
that
there
that
the
applicant
is
entitled
to
as
they
are
proposing,
20
affordable
as
standard
with
any
for
sale
residential
unit
development.
They
are
entitled
to
at
least
a
15
density
bonus
and
so
which,
which
will
allow
them
by
law,
27
units
to
be
added
to
the
base
density
of
179
news
or
that's
how
they
come
up
with
260
units
there.
D
So
again,
pers
excuse
me
per
state
law,
an
applicant
May,
request,
waivers
or
reduction
of
development
standards
that
will
have
the
effect
of
physically
precluding
construction
of
a
destiny
bonus
development,
no
incentives
or
concessions
are
being
requested
at
this
time.
D
So
the
first
waiver
has
to
do
with
the
height
of
the
structure.
So
two
of
the
buildings,
one
of
the
buildings
excuse
me,
Building
B,
is
coming
at
44
feet,
which
is
within
the
45
foot
limits
of
the
general
plan.
D
D
As
you
see
here,
this
is
sections
of
both
buildings,
A
and
C.
As
you
can
see,
the
green
hashed
are
so
the
red.
This
red
line
right
here
kind
of
shows
where
the
48
foot
line
would
be
if
you're
going
to
draw
it
across
across
the
the
two
sections.
The
green
hashed
is
the
top
floors.
So
if
the,
if
the,
if
the
developer
were
to
adhere
to
the
45
foot
limit,
they
will
not
be
able
to
add
those
top
floors
to
this
development.
D
Setbacks
so
the
size
setbacks
within
the
Heart
of
the
City
are
determined
this
way.
So
a
side
setback
is
determined
either
the
minimum
of
one
half
of
the
height
of
the
building
or
at
the
very
minimum
10
feet.
Whichever
is
greater
so
Building
B
again
is
conforming
to
side
setbacks
with
102
feet.
D
That's
not
the
street
setback.
The
street
setback
is
35
feet
which
all
three
buildings
remaining.
So
the
102
feet
is
from
the
the
closest
interior
line
to
the
South
building,
a
has
a
10
foot,
side,
setback
and
Building
C
has
a
22
and
a
half
side
setback
and
for
building
a
the
requirement
because
of
its
height
would
would
have
to
be
28
and
a
half
feet.
We're
building
C
would
have
to
be
27.5,
and
all
these
tables
were
taken
straight
from
the
stack
report.
D
D
A
exhibit
that
the
developer
developers
architect
put
together
the
show
how
the
how,
if
the
side
setbacks,
were
going
to
be
implemented
per
the
ordinance
without
the
waivers.
How
much
of
effective
development
you
can
see
the
outline
of
the
of
the
units-
and
this
is
on
the
thinking
from
the
fourth
residential
floor
of
the
three
buildings.
D
So
we
have
building
a
right
there
and
you
see
Building
C,
and
what
what
they're
trying
to
demonstrate
with
this
exhibit
is
how
how
the
side
setbacks,
if
being
Orthodox
to
the
ordinance,
would
would
take
out
at
least
three
units
on
building
a
per
floor
and
about
about
seven
units
per
floor
on
on
building
Building
C.
D
And
the
last
way
over
there
they're
requesting
is
for
the
residential
common
open
space.
The
way
it's
calculating
the
heart
of
the
city
is
that
each
each
unit
has
some
the
common
open
space
for
each
is
calculated.
D
The
residential
column
of
the
space
is
calculated
by
multiplying
the
unit
by
150
square
feet,
and
so
what
would
be
required
is
30
100
square
feet
and
what
is
proposed
with
the
development
is
30
266
square
feet,
so
approximately
600
feet
square
feet
deficient
with
the
residential
common
of
the
space,
so
the
justification,
the
main
justification
for
the
waivers
is
essentially
if
these,
if
these
standards
were
applied,
orthodoxally
to
this
to
this
Project
without
the
waivers,
there
would
be
substantial
loss
of
units
that
they
would
be
entitled
to
with
this
development
the
highway
it
was
calculated,
the
height
waiver,
if,
if
applied
at
the
45-foot
limit,
there'll,
be
a
loss
of
30
units
between
buildings,
A
and
C.
D
A
common
open
space
to
calculated
about
five
units
from
the
project
total
building,
a
three
units
building
B2
units
and
building
C
one
use
I
should
actually
read
six
I
apologize.
My
math
is
portable,
so,
let's
see
here
so
in
order
for
the
city
council
or
this
decision-making
body
to
deny
a
waiver
or
a
conservative
session.
D
These
findings
are
that
the
waiver
or
center
of
a
concession
would
have
adverse
impact
on
a
real
property
listing
the
California
registered
historic
resources
that
the
waiver
and
centers
essentially
would
have
a
specific
adverse
impact
upon
public
health
or
safety
over
the
physical
environment,
and
there
is
no
feasible
method
to
satisfactively
mitigate
or
avoid
the
specific
adverse
impact
without
rendering
the
residential
project
unaffordable
to
low
and
moderate
income,
households
and,
finally,
that
the
waiver,
or
instead
of
concessions
contrary
to
state
or
federal
law
through
the
in
this
dashboard.
D
We
we
describe
how
it
would
be
difficult
to
make
any
of
those
three
findings,
that's
one
because
this
is
not
a
not
on
a
historic
resource
or
a
California,
registered
Landmark
or
near
one.
D
D
Our
the
city
of
cupertino's
BMR
manual
talks
quite
a
bit
about
BMR,
the
below
market
rate
compatibility
with
c
with
the
with
the
market
rate
housing.
There
are
several
exhibits
within
the
staff
report,
another
staff,
of
course,
either
within
the
the
plant
sheets
that
demonstrated
the
dispersal
this
version
of
the
units
throughout
the
project
you
do
have
units
throughout
the
project
on
each
floor.
D
Most
of
them
they
all
are
conforming
to
the
amount
of
bedrooms
and
size
as
the
rest
of
the
of
the
market
rate
units.
This
table
I
found
very
helpful
from
the
applicant
and
in
that
the
average
bedroom
count
and
average
gross
area
is
pretty
much
equal
to
what
the
market
rate
units
are
in
terms
of
2.4.
The
average
bedrooms
are
about
2.4
bedrooms
and
the
average
size
is
about
1300
square
feet,
and
you
can
see
the
moderate
intermediate
income.
Bmr
units
are
around
that
as
well.
D
As
you
can
see
that
the
calculations
for
the
residential
condos
is
as
follows.
If
it's
a
one
bedroom
unit,
they
allow
one
on-site
space.
D
So
if
it's
two
to
three
bedrooms,
one
and
a
half
on-site
spaces,
it
was
four
bedrooms.
It's
2.5
spaces
per
unit,
there's
no
four
bedroom
unit.
So
we'll
just
focus
on
the
one
to
two,
so
they're
required
to
provide
296
per
for
this
calculation
and
they
are
providing
going
to
be
provided
approximately
300
and
I'm.
Sorry
either
required
to
provide
305
units
and
they're
going
to
be
providing
about
338.
D
for
the
retail.
It's
one
space
per
250
square
feet,
and
so
with
that
calculation
they
will
be
required
to
do
166
spaces
and
they
are
provided
269.
just
to
be
100
transparent.
The
applicant
did
suppose
that
a
few
of
those
units
will
be
restaurants,
so
they
Incorporated
some
student
accounts
and
whatnot
in
various
spaces
and
whatever
else.
So
that
is
in
the
anticipation
that
many
of
these
commercial
units
would
actually
be
occupied
by
cafes
and
eating
establishments,
so
that
buffer
was
in
there
to
to
account
for
that.
D
Tree
removal
and
Replacements
they
again
they're
moving
92
trees
with
184
trees,
136
on-site
and
48
off-site
of
those
39
will
be
24
inch
box,
crate,
24,
inch
box,
crape
myrtles.
The
street
tree
pallets
that
are
required
from
Public
Works
are
24
24
inch
box,
Engelman
Oaks
along
Stevens
Creek
and
De
Anza
boulevards
16,
24,
inch
box,
silver
Linden
along
Alice
Drive
and
eight
24
inch
box,
Brisbane
box
trees
along
family
Drive.
D
Again,
the
vesting
tentative
map
would
merge
into
lots
to
create
one
5.1
acre
parcel.
The
Consolidated
parcel
will
include
economy
map
for
206,
residential
Condominiums
and
a
condition
of
approval
has
been
added
to
the
vtm.
That
would
require
dedication
of
reciprocal
easements,
ensuring
cross
axis
between
the
parcels
for
immersion
vehicles
and
in
public
a
little
bit
about
the
architectural
design.
D
One
of
the
things
about
this
development
is
the
design
is
consistent
throughout
the
site.
As
you
see,
this
is
a
view
looking
down
south
along
South
North,
Danza
Boulevard,
you
see
the
Apple
office
building
in
the
in
the
background.
D
This
is
this
is
a
view
coming
in
from
the
entrance
along
Alves
Al's
Drive,
and
this
is
a
rendering
and
perspective
of
the
Interior
roundabout.
The
show
the
the
mixed
use,
building
I
mean
I,
believe
that's
Building,
C
and
the
applicant
has
a
very
detailed
presentation:
I'll
go
more
in
the
depth
about
you,
know
existing,
let's
say
they're
existing
and
what's
proposed
and
whatnot,
and
some
of
the
applicant
development
developers
architect
the
environmental
review
as
discussed
prior
on
September
6
2016,
the
city
of
Cupertino,
adopted
initial
study,
mitigated
negative
declaration.
D
We'll
call
it
the
2016
mnd,
the
city
consultant
place,
works
complete
an
addendum
to
the
2016
mnd
in
accordance
to
Secret
guidelines,
section
15164,
which
covers
how
to
complete
an
addendum
and
when
an
addendum
is
necessary,
rather
than
going
through
a
whole
new
M
D,
the
construction
operation.
The
modified
project
would
not
result
in
any.
What
was
found
rather
was
a
construction
operation.
The
modified
project
would
not
result
in
any
new
impacts
or
increase
the
severity
of
previously
identified
significant
impacts.
Analyzing
adopted
nmd
through
2016..
D
D
So
this
as
SB
330
application
and
as
a
residential
as
a
as
a
development
that
has
two-thirds
of
of
the
square
footage
dedicated
to
residential
development,
this
this
would
fall
under
the
housing,
accountability
act
and
just
as
a
as
a
as
a
discussion
of
what
that
means,
as
it
pertains
this
project.
This
limits
the
ability
of
a
city
to
deny
or
post
certain
conditions
on
a
housing
development
project
when
a
project
applies
with
apple,
applicable,
objective,
General,
plan,
zoning
and
subdivisions
damage
criteria.
D
The
project
is
a
housing
development
project
under
HHA,
because
it
is
a
mixed
use.
Development
consisting
of
residential,
non-registered
uses
with
at
least
two-thirds
of
the
square
footage
designated
fluorescent
in
use
and
a
project,
is
either
considered
consistent
with
the
series
objective
standards
or
has
applied
for
waivers
and
oracility
sessions
under
the
density.
Bonus
law.
D
Again,
the
city
has
within
its
right
to
dispute
the
project
if
the
project
would
have
a
specific
adverse
impact
upon
a
public
health
or
safety,
unless
the
project
is
disapproved
or
approved
upon
the
commissioned
that
the
project
be
developed
at
a
lower
density
and
no
feasible
method
to
satisfy
satisfactorily
mitigate
or
avoid
the
adverse
impact
exists
and
again,
nnd
had
been
completed
and
was
indented
to
that.
That
showed
that
all
any
any
impacts
could
be
mitigated
to
lesson
significant.
D
A
few
a
couple
modifications
to
feel
the
conditions
of
approval
of
the
development
permit,
two
of
them
condition
of
approval,
number
12
references,
the
senior
units
and
that
should
be
removed.
This
is
not
senior
development
and
the
condition
of
approval
13d
is
to
revise
to
an
ownership
project,
not
rental.
So
those
are
two
modifications
to
the
development
permit
resolution.
D
The
applicant
has
done
significant
Outreach
since
over
the
spring
and
summer,
actually
starting
January,
then
continuing
through
the
spring
and
summer
and
into
fall
this
year
in
January.
The
applicant
had
done
a
meeting
with
the
system.
City
delegations
and
eight
guests
attended
on
April,
2nd
and
13th
of
this
year.
D
A
residential
commercial
office,
Property
Owners
within
2
000
feet
of
the
side,
went
by
to
Aloft
hotel
with
18
members
of
the
public
attendant
and
when
they
were
able
to
view
the
project
plans
and
ask
questions
and
give
feedback
to
the
development
excuse.
The
developers
and
August
5th
and
8th
of
this
year,
residential
commercial
property
owners
within
2000
feet
of
the
site,
were
invited.
Aloft,
Hotel,
23
members
of
the
public,
have
it
coming
again.
The
applicant
can
discuss
these
Outreach
efforts.
More
in.
H
H
D
Well,
conclusion
is
that
the
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
project,
because
the
project
and
conditions
of
approval
address
concerns
related
to
the
proposed
development.
In
all
of
the
findings
for
approval
of
the
proposed
project
consistent
with
chapters
14.18
18.28,
1956,
19156
and
19168
Cupertino
Municipal
Code
could
be
made
concerning
developments,
height,
side
setback
and
common,
open
space,
waivers
evidence
and
record
demonstrated.
The
project
met.
D
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
I
think
Vikram.
Unless
it's
urgent
I'd
like
to
go
to
the
applicants
presentation
before
we
go
to
public
comment.
E
I
I
just
want
to
get
something
out,
so
I
did
meet
with
the
applicant.
You
know,
representative
of
what
again
you
know
last
week:
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
no
people,
you
know,
okay,
you
know
in
a
full
disclosure
right
so
just
to
review
the
plan,
and
you
know
try
to
understand
you
know
the
project
I
did
meet
with
you
know
the
applicant
last
week.
C
Yeah
also
I've
met
with
the
registered
lobbyist
of
the
applicant
as
well
and
I.
Think
who
else
has
met
with
the
applicant
ex
parte,
Communications
I
believe
yeah
Ray,
okay,
so
three
of
us
have
met
with
I
believe
we
all
met
with
the
registered
lobbyists
if
the
applicant
has
hired
yeah
so
that
yeah?
Thank
you
for
getting
that
out.
There
now
is
the
applicant
available
here
to
do
their
presentation.
L
Evening,
chair
and
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
tonight
I
would
ask
if
possible
that
my
10
minutes
be
stretched
somewhat
I've
got
a
big
project
to
present
to
you
all
and
I.
Don't
know
that
I
can
get
it
done
effectively
in
10
minutes.
C
Sure
you
can
have
15
minutes,
yeah,
we'll
set
a
timer
for
15
minutes
and
yeah
just
go
as
quickly
as
you
can.
You
don't
have
to
read
every
item
on
every
slide
for
sure
yeah
yeah
go
ahead.
L
Thank
you,
the
property
ownership
when
they
started
this
project,
the
redesigned
they've
their
goal
was
to
be
able
to
develop
a
housing
project
that
met
the
city's
housing
element,
but
was
able
to
keep
the
retail
component
and
I.
Think
that's
what
you're
going
to
see
tonight.
We
worked
really
hard
to
be
able
to
balance
both
of
those
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
share
my
screen
and
bear
with
me.
My
technical
skills
even
with
covet,
are
not
the
greatest.
L
Let's
try
this
here
we
go.
So
we
have
our
our
development
team
here
in
the
same
room
tonight,
with
the
exception
of
our
land
use
Council,
who
was
dialed
in
who
can
answer
any
questions
so
we'll
be
prepared
to
respond
to
any
questions
you
may
have
during
the
presentation
during
the
hearing,
staff
is
already
pretty
much
gone
over
the
history
of
the
project,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
in
detail,
but
I
would
just
I
would
focus
on
the
changes
of
market
conditions.
L
L
Construction
costs
have,
as
we've
seen
over
the
last
24
months,
been
a
challenge
and
we've
adopted
the
design
to
deal
with
that
and
then
covet
has
changed
all
our
lives
and-
and
it's
impacted
this
project
with
the
question
mark
of
the
hotel
and
what
the
future
of
that
is,
we
felt
housing
was
a
more
better
use
than
a
a
more
welcome
use
than
the
hotel
components.
L
So
moving
forward
staff
kind
of
preempted
me
and
already
gave
you
a
comparison
of
the
the
past
project
and
what
we're
proposing
one
of
the
big
changes
is.
We
went
from
two
levels
of
underground
parking,
which
was
broken
up
in
separate
garages
to
one
level
of
underground
parking
that
is
cohesive
and
under
and
underlies
the
entire
site.
So
it's
more
efficient
and
naturally
one
level
is
cheaper
to
build
than
two
levels.
L
L
This
is
1300
square
feet
and
you
know
we
feel
that
this
will
be
more
receptive
to
larger
families
and
also
to
the
empty
nesters
who
have
a
house
in
the
community
want
to
stay
in
the
community,
but
they
don't
want
to
have
a
3,
000
square
foot
house
anymore,
and
now
we
have
some
three
bedrooms
with
Den
units
that
would
be
more
attractive.
L
So
that
was
one
of
the
major
changes
staff
talked
about
the
36
units
compared
to
the
original
proposal,
and
we
have
41
000
square
feet
of
retail
compared
to
the
44
000
that's
on
site.
Now
these
will
be
retail
condos.
Approximately
22
units
is
what
is
shown
in
your
submittal
packet.
L
Again,
I
won't
go
through
this.
In
a
lot
of
detail.
We
talked
about
the
size
of
the
units
being
a
plus
and
a
change,
giving
opportunity
for
business
and
home
ownership
and
jumping
down.
We
really
worked
hard
to
to
introduce
as
many
eco-friendly
items
as
we
could
we're
proposing
that
we'll
have
photovoltaic
solar
on
the
available
roof
space
that
will
help
save
energy
we're
going
to
have
roof
Gardens
on
two
of
the
buildings
that
will
be
just
for
homeowners.
L
That
will
give
some
additional
open
space
options
we'll
show
later,
but
we
have
over
overstaffed
the
project
with
bicycle
storage
so
that
there
is
encouraging
pedestrian
and
bike
options
and
then
right
now
our
lead
certification
is
at
58
points
and
that
that
is
silver.
We
believe
that
when
we're
through
the
working
drawing
stage,
there's
a
number
of
items
that
don't
get
detailed
at
this
level,
we
will
be
in
firmly
into
the
gold
stage,
which
is
at
60
points.
So
we're
excited
about
that.
L
A
L
Today,
this
is
the
the
views
that
we're
seeing
and
really
you
know
the
center
was
built
in
1979.
It
was
great
for
1979,
but
I
think
what
we're
proposing
is
a
higher
and
better
use
and
also
well
what
we're
proposing
is
going
to
activate
albs,
which
right
now
has
no
real
pedestrian
activity
whatsoever.
It's
it's
kind
of
an
afterthought
and
I
think
what
we're
going
to
show.
You
is
going
to
change
that
staff
has
already
showed
some
of
the
drawings.
L
This
again
is
looking
South
on
De
Anza
at
the
intersection
with
Alves,
and
then
the
flip
side
is
looking
at
the
other
end
of
the
street
on
bandley.
So
you
have
your
retail
component,
which
will
add
to
the
pedestrian
and
the
activation
of
those
streets
on
De
Anza
I'm
not
going
to
talk
a
lot
about
architecture.
That's
that's!
Really,
not
my
forte!
Our
architect
is
here.
The
each
of
the
buildings
has
a
Center
parking
garage,
but
we've
got
that
screened
with
a
lot
of
architectural
treatment
and
a
lot
of
landscaping.
L
So
you
really
don't
even
realize
we
have
the
garage
unit
there
going
on
again
the
Paseo.
This
is
looking
from
the
Apple
Cafe.
We
had
a
had
a
good
meeting
with
our
neighbors
at
Apple,
and
this
was
their
main
question
is
what
is
it
going
to
look
like?
What
are
we
going
to
see
now
versus
you
know
what
you're
proposing.
So
this
is
the
Paseo
looking
down
with
the
retail,
and
it's
really
more
another
view.
Looking
from
the
other
direction,
it's
more
of
a
pedestrian
focused
streetscape.
L
Our
landscape
architect,
will
speak
to
some
of
the
treatments
we're
going
to
use
the
the
renderings,
don't
bring
them
out,
but
we've
got
different.
L
Crosswalk
treatments
different
heights,
so
that
we
may
have
a
definite
traffic
calming
through
there
and
then
you
know
the
retail
shops
with
a
lot
of
outdoor
seating
again,
looking
at
the
plaza
staff
staff
showed
this
view,
this
is
Building
B,
building
a
here's
on
the
right,
and
then
this
is
the
view
looking
in
from
bandley
into
the
project,
building
C
and
down
the
at
the
far
end
is
the
Plaza.
L
The
site
plan,
a
couple
things
were
were
introducing
is
one:
is
the
community
room
for
the
project?
We're
want
to
offer
that
for
use
by
any
non-profits
in
the
city
of
Cupertino.
The
sister
city
folks
have
expressed
an
interest
we
would.
L
We
would
make
it
available
to
any
5013c
non-profit
groups
at
no
charge
to
be
reserved
through
the
HOA
and
we've
designed
it
in
such
a
way
that
there's
a
glass
wall,
it's
about
800
square
feet,
it
has
a
restroom,
but
the
glass
wall
could
be
retracted
and
it
would
open
up
into
the
lobby
if
we
needed
more
space.
If
you
were
going
to
do
some
type
of
art
presentation
or
have
here's
more
flexibility,
so
that's
one
of
the
things
we
have
the
start
areas.
The
purple
is
the
retail.
L
The
start
areas
are
are
planned.
Restaurant
most
of
these
have
outdoor
seating,
which
again
will
make
it
more
of
a
neighborhood
field.
There'll
be
a
chance
for
people
to
gather.
L
L
Again,
this
is
another
shot
just
showing
the
interior
parking
within
each
building.
On
the
ground
level,
we
have
a
distribution
of
the
units,
they
range
from
the
one
bedroom
up
through
a
three
bedroom
with
Dan
and,
as
I
said,
they
average
about
1300
square
feet.
Overall,
the
three
bedrooms
with
Den
are
as
large
as
1649
square
feet.
L
Same
chart
that
staff
had
shown
shown,
we
worked
very
hard
to
equalize
the
distribution
of
the
moderate
and
median
income
units
interspaced
into
the
market
rate,
so
there's
no
preference
to
either
one,
and
this
just
goes
through
and
shows
a
sample
Distribution
on
the
first
residential
level
as
an
idea
of
how
we've
mixed
the
units
in
in
the
garage,
as
I
said,
we
had
one
large
garage.
L
We
extensively
planned
for
EV
charging,
208
spaces
have
will
be
EV
ready
and
there's
also
81
spaces
in
the
garage
that
will
be
available
for
retail
parking,
most
likely.
Employees
and
owners
of
the
retail
spaces.
L
So
when
we,
when
we
started
talking
about
the
theme
of
the
project
and
what
we
could
bring
to
the
community,
one
of
the
principles
in
the
ownership
suggested
that
we
look
to
the
sister
city
folks
and
really
try
to
work
with
them
and
bring
this
into
a
an
art
and
culture
experience
that
we
could
introduce
into
and
throughout
the
project.
So
we've
met
with
the
sister
city.
Folks,
we
have
a
pretty
sizable
art
contribution,
that's
going
to
come
from
the
project
and
our
landscape.
Architect
will
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
more.
L
But
what
we
envision
is
that
the
major
intersection
points
that
will
have
some
major
art
pieces
and
then
throughout
the
interior
of
the
project
on
the
streets,
there
will
be
sister
city,
focused
art
pieces
and
also
some
historical
contacts
that
will
help,
educate
and
inform
people
about
sister
city,
the
sister
city
relationship.
L
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
let
Jesse
Markham
go
through
the
Landscaping
plant,
great.
M
Thanks
does
Greg
mentioned:
We've
really
worked
hard
as
a
team
to
make
this
Urban
Village
a
vibrant
streetscape
and
a
pedestrian
experience
here.
So
you
you
Greg
explained
the
garage
and
one
of
the
challenges
with
the
garage
is
that
being
underneath
a
part
of
this
project.
So
our
the
heart
of
this
project
is
our
Plaza
and
it's
located
outside
of
that
garage.
M
So
we
can
really
take
advantage
of
the
native
soil
and
have
a
really
Lush
Plaza
there,
both
for
the
residents
of
this
project,
as
well
as
for
the
community
to
gather
we've
choreographed
throughout
this
whole
site,
a
really
nice
pedestrian
experience,
Street
trees
for
shade
Greg
mentioned
also
the
planting
here,
drawing
from
some
of
the
sister
cities,
as
well
as
native
plants
and
appropriate
plants.
For
this
area.
M
We
have
rain
Gardens
as
well
to
treat
storm
water,
and
so
this
is
the
the
public
area
up
here
and
when
we
go
up
a
level
we
get
to
the
residential
Courtyards.
Each
of
the
three
buildings
has
a
private
residential
Courtyard
to
provide
the
open
space
they're
all
a
little
different.
They
have
amenities,
they
have
trees,
Planters
little
niches
for
seeding,
barbecues
fire
pits
things
like
that.
We
go
up
to
the
roof
level
and
we
have
green
roofs.
M
Just
a
quick
example
of
some
of
the
materials
and
the
Furnishings
meeting
the
city's
standard
requirements
for
bike
racks
and
and
the
trio
waste.
So
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
paving
materials
we're
looking
at
some
permeable
pavers,
also
to
help
with
storm
water
treatment.
Crosswalks.
You
know
enhanced,
concrete
or
enhanced
Pavements
for
crosswalks
and
then
at
the
bottom.
M
The
art
experience
which
Greg
mentioned
that
throughout
the
site,
so
that
you
can
really
walk
through
the
site
and
experience
the
art.
You
know
understanding
the
connection
to
the
sister
cities.
The
art
itself
has
not
been
designed.
This
is
something
we'll
work
with
the
art
Commission
on,
but
just
an
example
of
the
types
of
things
that
there
might
be
out
here.
Everything
signs
large
sculptures,
smaller
pieces,
but
the
idea
is
that
you
can
really
wander
through
the
site
and
explore
and
discover
the
art
that
might
be
out
here.
M
There's
a
sampling
of
the
plant
palette.
You
know
we
do
have
native
plants,
cyanothis
manzanitas
and
then
also
plants
that
are
just
appropriate
for
this
area.
Street
trees
that
are
applicable
and
approved
by
the
city,
and
then
you
can
just
see
a
lot
large
range
of
colors
here,
bird
bird
bird
bird
pollinated,
as
well
as
butterfly
pollinated
plants
which
are
really
trying
to
incorporate
in,
and
we
will
also
work
with
the
sister
cities
to
bring
some
of
their
plant
materials
that
are
appropriate
for
the
Bay
Area.
L
Thank
you,
Jesse
John
touched
on
our
community
outreach,
although.
L
Yes,
just
to
note
on
our
community
outreach
the
community
room
idea
really
bubbled
up
from
those
meetings
that
we
had.
We
talked
about
the
eco-friendly
items
and
the
EV
charging
and
the
bike.
I
won't
belabor
that
and
John
pretty
much
went
through
the
waivers,
so
I
will
not
I
had
the
same.
Slides
is
John
just
to
explain
the
waivers.
L
The
setback
is
30
units
that
it
allows
for
the
project,
the
height
another
30
units,
and
this
allows
us
to
add
an
additional
18,
000
square
foot
of
retail,
underneath
these
buildings
A
and
C,
and
the
open
space.
While
we
were
a
little
short
on
the
residential
common
overall,
the
project
gives
us
over
an
acre
of
open
space
and
far
exceeds
the
total
for
the
project.
So
we
felt
very
comfortable
about
that
request
and
really
summing
up.
L
We
think
this.
The
proposal
implements
the
housing
policies
for
the
site
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
preserving
the
retail
we're,
certainly
taking
an
underutilized
property
and
bringing
it
to
a
higher
and
better
use
and
while
providing
ownership,
opportunities
and
the
art
and
culture
with
the
city.
So
with
that,
I
would
ask
for
your
support
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that.
C
Come
up
okay!
So
before
we
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
questions,
we
will
go
to
the
public
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
attendees
here.
So
please
raise
your
hand
if
you'd
like
to
speak
as
an
attendee,
everyone
will
get
three
minutes,
but
please
debrief
because
you
can
so
far.
I
see
one
hand
raised,
and
this
is
oh
there's,
two
okay,
Lisa
Warren,
you
are
first
go
ahead.
N
Thank
you,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
forget
to
bring
this
up
in
my
three
minutes,
so
I
remember
being
told
at
a
community
outreach
meeting
which
I
would
guess
there
weren't
that
many
people
that
attended
that
the
CC
and
ours
for
this
complex
or
whatever
those
roles
are
going
to
be
called,
would
limit
the
number
of
non-owner
occupied
units
and
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
that
and
I
think
that's
critical,
that
there
be
a
limit
to
the
number
of
non-occupied
owner
occupied
units.
N
Otherwise
it'll
be
like
many
places
in
a
city
where
things
are
bought
and
rented
out
and
they're
so
they're,
no
longer
our
ownership
by
the
people
actually
live
in
them.
So
please
clarify
that
the
height
the
the
request
to
deviate
from
what
the
height
is
supposed
to
be.
N
You
know
it's
1300
square
foot
units,
the
ceiling,
Heights,
don't
really
need
to
and
often
are
very
awkward
because
they
make
the
rooms
boxy.
When
it's
that
square
footage
and
you
have
high
ceilings,
there
was
no
mention
of
the
ceiling
height
that
in
the
report,
it's
probably
in
the
drawings,
but
I
did
not
see
those
earlier.
N
So
I
would
question
whether
that
height
limit
needs
to
be
a
concession
or
whatever
we're
calling
it
if
it
means
that
the
ceiling
Heights
are
taller
than
you
know,
we
don't
all
need
10
foot
ceilings
Etc.
So
please
ask
that
question.
N
Retail
needs
parking
or
people
go
elsewhere
if
they
can't
find
a
place
to
park.
I
also
question
the
the
easy
ready
parking
spaces.
I
think
it
was
208
of
the
spaces
are
going
to
be
EV
ready,
I'm,
not
sure
that
if
it's
an
EV
spot,
whether
a
non-ev
car
is
is
allowed
to
park
there.
So
that
should
be
clarified.
N
Can
a
regular
gas
car
be
parked
in
an
easy
spot,
because,
if
not
you're
going
to
have
all
these
spots
that
you
may
not
be
able
to
use
and
the
people
that
want
them
won't
have
them
so
I'm
concerned
about
some
of
the
waivers
I'm
I
love
that
they're
disguising
the
parking
garage.
If
that
really
works
out,
I
I
had
some
positive
things
to
say
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
say.
N
C
K
I'm
Gene
gasparini,
okay
and
I'm
I'm
here
speaking
for
myself,
but
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
Cupertino
toyakawa
sister
cities,
Association
I,
think
the
plaza
Redevelopment
project
will
be
beneficial
to
the
community
of
Cupertino
I've,
been
impressed
by
the
project,
developers,
professionalism
and
the
way
they're
reaching
reaching
out
to
the
community
into
the
sister
cities,
as
well
as
the
Cupertino
Fine
Arts
commission
I
think
the
projects
will
reflect
the
incorporation
of
the
four
sister
cities
attributes
in
giving
a
Community
Focus
that
is
both
specific
and
unique
to
our
community.
C
Very
good
and
I'd,
also
like
to
you
know
thank
our
former
interim
city
manager,
Amy
Chan
who's,
the
consultant,
because
I
think
she
was
really
responsible
for
all
the
reaching
out
to
everyone
and
I
see
her
there
in
the
in
the
room
he
can
wave
Amy.
So
thanks
for
everything
you
did
on
this
project
and
next
we
are
on
to
Gene
bedorn
welcome
Gene.
O
Lane
Planning
Commission
members,
my
name
is
Gene
bedord
and
I'm,
a
resident
resident
of
Cupertino
I'm
here
to
urge
you
to
approve
this
application
for
the
marina
Plaza
project,
I've,
attended
the
open
houses
for
the
project
and
have
had
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
for
the
design.
This
development
is
particularly
senior
friendly.
O
O
In
addition,
Target
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
site,
with
sprouts
and
other
retail
directly
across
Stevens
Creek
Boulevard,
so
this
Project's
within
walking
distance
of
our
local
YMCA,
of
which
I'm
a
member
and
that
encourages
senior
Fitness.
It
also
includes
bike
friendly
Transportation,
including
bike
lockers.
O
This
particular
project
fills
a
major
Gap
in
senior
housing
in
Cupertino.
Many
of
us
live
in
large
family
homes,
three
thousand
square
feet
and
larger
and
would
like
to
downsize
we're.
Looking
for
two
to
three
bedroom
units
seniors
aren't
interested
in
one
bedroom
units
after
living
in
large
houses.
O
We
want
to
stay
in
the
community.
Close
to
friends
and
medical
providers,
this
project
provides
the
housing
we
need.
It
makes
our
big
homes
available
to
young
families.
This
was
a
good
project.
It
was
approved
in
2016.
It's
evolved
into
a
better
project.
Please
enthusiastically
approve
it.
Thank
you.
P
Hi
good
evening,
chair,
sharp
and
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Connie
Cunningham,
34-year,
Cupertino
resident
I'm,
an
Audubon
member,
an
environmental
action
committee,
as
well
as
being
on
the
Housing
Commission.
Speaking
for
myself.
Only
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
this
very
thorough
report
and
also
from
the
applicant,
except
for
one
major
exception,
which
is
the
replacement
plan
for
the
92
trees.
This
is
a
very
good
plan
and
I
think
it
will
be
an
excellent
space
for
206
new
homes.
P
P
20
percent
of
the
homes
are
restricted
to
moderate
income
or
immediate
income
residents,
which
we
super
need
because
of
the
high
cost
of
housing.
Cupertino
needs
housing
at
all
price
ranges.
These
two
price
ranges
will
add
to
our
mix
of
homes
and
the
99-year
length
of
time
for
the
home
prices
will
keep
them
affordable
for
a
long
time.
No
one
project
can
provide
all
homes
needed,
and
this
is
a
good
selection
of
homes.
The
major
exception
to
this
good
proposal
is
drawscribed
on
page
11
of
the
staff
report.
P
It
is
the
discussion
of
tree
replacement,
which
gives
specifics,
but
none
of
the
replacements
are
California
native
trees,
even
the
oak
trees,
why
aren't
we
using
Coastal,
Oaks
or
Valley
Oaks
or
any
of
the
other
kind
that
grow
in
our
area?
P
I
would
also
ask
that
the
applicant
confirm
that
they
plan
to
adhere
to
the
bird
safe
design
and
Dark
Skies
ordinance
that
Cupertino
has
in
place
right
now.
A
little
bit
of
background
Cupertino
has
already
established
their
commitment
to
the
environment
with
the
bird
safe
design
and
Dark
Skies
ordinance
Cupertino
will
be
adding
more
projects
and
homes
in
coming
years
and
Cupertino
has
a
robust
climate
action
plan
that
recognizes
the
needs
for
native
plants.
P
I
urge
you
to
change
the
project
trees
to
California
native
trees
that
have
high
habitat
value.
These
trees
will
create
a
neighborhood
that
supports
biodiversity
organizations
such
as
the
Santa
Clara,
Valley
Audubon
Society
are
working
to
provide
cities,
home
builders
and
developers
with
the
tools
they
need
to
fight
climate
change,
using
trees,
shrubs
and
grasses
as
a
way
to
increase
biodiversity.
P
C
Okay:
next,
we
have
San
R
welcome.
Q
Thank
you,
Commissioners
I
want
to
say
this
is
a
good
project
for
the
city.
It
is
going
to
provide
for
much
needed
housing.
It
is
also
going
to
provide
retail,
which
makes
it
an
attractive
destination
for
residents.
We
do
not
have
something
comparable
to
the
mixed
use,
retail
that
we
see
in
the
Eastern
side
of
the
city.
So
it's
nice
to
see
some
of
this
coming
closer
to
the
central
part
of
the
city
in
the
western
part
of
the
city.
Q
I
do
want
to,
however,
raise
some
concern
about
the
amount
of
retail
parking
it
feels
to
me
like,
as
the
developer
was
speaking
earlier,
they
were
talking
about
the
retail
parking
being
mostly
for
the
businesses
and
their
employees,
and,
as
was
mentioned
by
the
earliest
speaker,
the
retail
is
not
going
to
be
a
draw
for
residents
if
there
isn't
enough
parking,
so
I
urge
you
to
make
sure
that
there
is
enough
parking
for
retail.
In
particular,
the
plans
show
a
few
restaurants,
which
is
excellent.
Q
We
do
need
more
restaurants
in
Cupertino,
so
I
would
urge
you
to
look
at
what
is
the
max
capacity
of
the
restaurants
and
make
sure
that
there's
enough
retail
parking
for
the
restaurants,
as
well
as
the
retail
visitors
I,
also
want
to
Echo
the
comments
of
the
previous
speaker.
The
parking
that
is
shown
seems
to
be
EV
parking
all
through
and
I
would
be
concerned
that
a
lot
of
EV
cars
are
going
to
occupy
the
the
parking
spot
or
to
develop
parking
available
for
other
non-ev
cars.
Q
The
marina
is
home
to
a
number
of
small
Boba
shops
and
coffee
shops,
and
so
on,
which
actually
add
to
the
culture
of
that
location.
It
brings
in
a
lot
of
crowd.
It
brings
a
lot
of
young
crowd
and
youth
and
teams,
and
so
I
urge
you
to
evaluate
the
retail
to
make
sure
there
is
a
good
diversity
of
small
retail
square
footage
so
that
you
can
accommodate
small
businesses,
in
addition
to
being
able
to
accommodate
restaurants
and
the
and
any
other
anchor
tenants
that
may
be
required.
Q
C
All
right,
thank
you,
I
see,
Gene,
you
have
your
hand
raised
again,
but
you
can
only
speak
once
unless
someone
else
in
your
household
once
you
use
that
okay
Jenny
well
welcome.
Jenny.
R
Hi.
Thank
you.
There
was
a
very
nice
presentation
on
the
marina
I
was
actually
back
in
June
2016.
I
went
through
all
the
meetings
of
this
I'm
glad
that
the
conflict
with
the
Bank
of
America
driveway
has
been
resolved.
That
was
worrisome.
R
I
used
that
Bank
of
America
I
also
used
to
chase
this
project
is
in
an
area
that
is
I'm
going
to
call
it
class
a
commercial
area
for
Cupertino
many
years
ago
there
was
a
safe
way
on
this
site.
I
used
to
go
there
many
many
times
there
was
a
large
grocery
store.
There.
I
actually
saw
one
of
the
night
anchors
for
one
of
the
San
Jose
News.
There
11
p.m.
R
At
night,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
now
I
think
I
sent
a
letter
to
a
Planning
Commission
in
city
council
about
this
about
the
parking.
As
someone
had
previously
stated,
retail
parking
is
a
make
or
break
for
this
city
and
I
I
plan
to
retire
in
this
city.
I'm
going
to
be
living
here
for
God
knows
how
long
I'm
going
to
be
on
earth
and
I.
Don't
want
to
be
a
really
really
old.
Lady
driving
a
car
coming
down
there
to
try
to
go
shopping
and
not
have
any
place
to
park.
R
I
also
don't
want
to
trip
over
an
EV,
cable,
I
I,
don't
want
to
sound
like
I'm
cross,
but
a
lot
of
the
state
bills
are
making
me
extremely
cross
because
they
are
telling
me
that
I
shouldn't
drive
a
car
and
I'm
really
getting
tired
of
it.
I'm
tired
now
and
I'm
going
to
be
even
more
crossed
five
years
from
now.
So
I
really
hope
that
we
make
sure
Cupertino
knows
best.
Sacramento
does
not
know
best.
R
Cupertino
has
very
high
values
in
terms
of
their
parking
Cupertino
understands
that
people
have
the
right
to
drive
a
car,
and
it
cannot
be
meditated
by
the
governor
or
the
president.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
fully
parked
out
commercial
area
or
I
will
take
my
shopping
dollars
and
go
to
West,
San
Jose
or
Santa
Clara,
where
maybe
they're
welcome
I.
Don't
think
that
a
lot
of
the
state
officials
care
about
the
residents
who
have
lived
in
the
neighborhoods
and
in
the
commercial
areas,
but
please
over
park
it.
Thank
you.
R
C
Thank
you,
Jenny.
Let
me
go
back
and
see
if
anyone
else
has
raised
their
hand.
In
the
meantime,
they
have
not
so
we'll
close
public
comment
and
we
can,
if
the
applicant
would
like
to
address
the
couple
of
major
things
that
were
mentioned
by
the
speakers,
such
as
why
the
certain
kind
of
trees
were
chosen
and
about
the
situation
with
the
retail
parking.
L
Yes,
chair
sharp
that
we
can
definitely
do
that.
Let
me
let
me
let
Jesse
Markham,
our
landscape,
architect
speak
to
the
tree
selection
and
then
I'll
talk
to
some
of
the
other
issues.
Yeah
thank.
M
You
the
just
noting
the
oak
trees
that
was
actually
a
request
by
the
city,
so
the
street
trees
being
provided
are
in
response
directly
to
the
city's
request.
So
that's
why
we're
doing
those
three
trees
as
far
as
other
trees
and
plants,
we're
certainly
very
open
if
there
are
suggestions
for
additional
natives,
but
they
will
be
a
high
percentage
of
natives
on
this
site.
I
said
earlier:
there'll
be
a
combination
of
things,
but
lots
of
native
plants
vary
drought,
power
and
it'll
make
sure
it
fits
well
with
the
city
and
the
environment.
Here.
C
And
the
parking
I
thought
I
know
we
had
several
mixed
use.
Developments
in
the
city
where
the
retail
has
all
failed
because
of
a
lack
of
parking,
so
that
that
is
a
really
valid
concern.
In
my
mind,
very.
L
Much
chair
Sharpton,
we,
the
the
the
the
property
owners
of
this
project,
are
retailers
at
heart,
so
they're
very
keenly
aware
of
the
concern
of
parking
and,
as
as
staff
pointed
out
in
their
presentation,
we
jumped
in
and
took
into
consideration
the
potential
for
the
restaurant
space
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't
shorting
ourselves
or
playing
a
mind
game
on
how
many
parking
spaces
we
needed
for
the
overall
project.
The
spaces
in
the
garage
that
I
alluded
to
for
for
the
the
Extra
Spaces
are
for
overflow.
L
There
are
81
spaces
to
bring
owners
and
employees
off
of
the
parking
level
at
the
ground
level
to
make
those
available
for
customers,
and
so
that
you
have
more
available
there.
There
was
a
comment
about
the
EV.
There
was
a
an
excess
I
believe
the
the
neighbor
said
about
the
EV
spaces.
These
are
EV
ready.
They
will
be
dislike
in
any
residential
condominium
project,
you'll
be
assigned
a
space.
L
If
you
have
an
EV
car,
we
can
make
it
an
EV
space,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
you're
limited
to
only
parked
EV
cars
in
those
spaces,
so
important
difference
there
we're
very
sensitive
to
the
parking.
There
was
a
comment
about
the
heights
ceiling
Heights
in
the
units.
The
ceiling
Heights
are
eight
and
a
half
to
nine
feet,
we're
not
excessive
on
the
height
of
the
interior
of
the
units,
there's
no
10
12,
13
foot,
vaulted
ceilings,
so
I
just
wanted
to
address
that
the
concern
about
owner
occupied.
L
We
have
not
even
got
to
the
level
of
detail
for
ccnrs,
but
it's
my
understanding
today
that
financial
institutions
will
not
lend
on
projects
to
people
to
buy
units.
If
there's
a
high
percentage
of
non-owner
occupied,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
the
marketplace.
Takes
care
of
that
concern
right
off.
The
bat
Jesse
spoke
to
the
oak
trees
selection,
I'm.
Just
looking
to
see,
if
there's
anything
else,
oh,
we
did
include
in
our
packet
three
or
four
sheets
to
show
how
we
complied
with
the
bird
safe
design.
L
We've
talked
about
the
parking
we
talked
about,
the
the
EV,
the
easements
were
all
reserved
resolved
back
in
2018
and
19.,
so
there's
Harmony
on
record
among
the
property
owners
as
far
as
cross
easements
and
circulation
on
site,
so
that
was
taken
care
of
I,
think
that
takes
care
of
it.
But
we're
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
C
Okay,
so
yeah
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
planning.
Commissioners
I
have
a
ton
of
questions,
but
I
will
not
go
first.
Let's
see
how
about
Sanji.
You
have
your
your
listed
first
here.
So
yeah
go
ahead.
F
Yeah,
it's
a
very
nice
and
professionally
managed
plan.
I
just
want
to
know
a
few
things
about.
It
is
that
if
I
have
to
measure
the
carbon
footprint
of
this
residential
complex,
how
would
I
do
that?
I
mean
there's
going
to
be
206
units
and
approximately
say
two
people
per
unit.
You
have
like
in
a
four
412
residents
minimally
with
children.
F
Residing
in
this
so-
and
it
is
surrounded
by
a
De
Anza
on
one
side
and
Stevens
Creek
Boulevard
on
the
other
side
so
effectively,
there
is
a
quite
a
quite
a
bit
of
vehicular
traffic
and
pretty
busy
one
on
both
sides
of
the
things.
So
there
is
going
to
be
some
level
of
concern
about
the
pollution
and
about
the
for
the
resident.
So
how
do
we
measure
that
and
how?
What
are
the
ways
we
have
provisioned
to
mitigate?
F
That
second
thing:
I
just
wanted
to
also
highlight
the
the
two
streets,
the
Elvis
I,
think
it's
called
band-blazed
drive
and
there's
another
one
always
trial
right.
So
there
is
once
we
have
a
large
density
of
the
residential
population
in
a
in
a
given
area.
There
is
going
to
be
a
vehicular
traffic
and,
to
my
knowledge,
this
Band-Aid
drive
and
this
Elvis.
So
what
is
another
one
which
is
facing
the
apples
always
drive?
They
are
pretty
narrow.
F
They
are
not
as
wide
as
Stephen,
Curry,
Boulevard
or
De
Anza,
or
something
like
that.
So
once
you
provide
to
this
building
a
b
c,
the
entrances
from
there
is
there
a
way
to
measure
that
you
will
be
able
to
to
manage
the
vehicular
traffic
which
is
coming
in
for
the
residents,
as
well
as
for
the
people
who
are
passing
by
and
without
creating
a
a
bottleneck
on
those
roads.
F
That's
the
second
thing:
I,
it
was
clear
from
presentation
or
any
Matrix
which
you
have
given
in
your
document
regarding
third
thing
is
that
I
had
was
thinking
that
that
you
know,
where
are
your?
The
crashed
disposals
for
such
large
residents
are
built
on
the
corners
and
those
Corners
are
on
also
on
a
on
a
street,
which
is
how
does
that
impact
the
the
residents
as
well
as
the
retail?
These
are
the
three
questions.
I
have
thanks.
C
C
L
L
L
There
are
two
accesses
into
the
garage
one
off
of
Alves
and
one
off
of
the
internal
Paseo
so,
and
that
was
taken
into
effect
when
the
analysis
was
done
as
far
as
trip
generation
and
and
then
there
was
no
problems
found
in
maybe
Chad
or
John
can
speak
more
precisely
to
this
from
their
Consulting
standpoint.
But
we
didn't
see
any
any
issues
coming
out
of
the
traffic
and
especially
since
it
was
going
to
be
less
trips
generated
less
vehicle
miles
than
the
previous
project,
the
trash
collection.
L
We
have
a
very
extensive
trash
collection
plan
that
was
formulated
by
a
trash
management
company
in
the
packet
of
plans
that
you
have.
It
shows
the
routes
the
trucks
will
take.
The
collection
points
within
the
project
and
how
the
trash
will
get
in
and
out
of
the
project,
and
it
was
all
calculated
down
to
the
cubic
foot
of
post.
L
Recyclables,
so
I
can
bring
those
sheets
up
if
it's
needed
and
we
can
go
through
the
trash
plan,
but
there
was
a
very
extensive
trash
plan
that
was
submitted
to
staff
and
they
commented
through
two
rounds.
So
that's
been
very
thoroughly
vetted
that
we
know
how
to
get
the
trash
in
and
out
in
a
way
that
is
a
safe
and
effective.
I
D
The
chair
I,
can
you
know
we
have
our
our
place
first
here
to
answer
your
questions
about
environmental
issues
that
commissioner
Kapil
had
brought
up.
We
have
Terry
McCracken
who's,
ready
to
go.
Okay.
C
And
and
who
would
speak
about
the
you
know,
the
applicant
mentioned
that
the
city
specified
the
trees,
who
do
we
have
a
City
Arborist
that
does
that
or
mayor
Chad
Mosley?
Oh,
so
maybe
Chad
can
speak
as
to
why
those
trees
were
selected
instead
of
the
other
tree.
I.
Don't
know
enough
about
that,
but
I
appreciate
what
Cunningham
mentioned
as
well
as
others.
S
Yeah
and
I
can
provide
some
background
to
that
Jonathan
Ferrante,
who
is
the
city's
arborist,
provided
recommendations
on
a
few
different
Oak
species.
The
species
that
were
selected
were
selected
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
of
them
is.
We
are
trying
to
provide
some
diversity
in
our
tree
species
throughout
the
city.
S
Just
due
to
some
experiences
we've
seen
in
the
past,
where
you
know,
you'll
have
like
a
certain
type
of
Elm
in
a
city,
and
some
kind
of
of
fungus
or
Beetle
will
come
through
and
ravage
all
the
trees.
And
now
the
city
is
basically
treeless.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide.
You
know,
Oak
species
that
may
not
be
necessarily
native,
but
our
still
Oaks
provide
that
aesthetic
thing
the
the
aesthetic
features
that
we
want
of
an
oak,
but
have
that
diversity
to
withstand
some
of
these
blights
that
are
occurring.
S
So
we
are
trying
to
diversify
our
species
throughout
the
city,
just
so
that
we
don't
get
hammered
with
blight.
Additionally,
the
the
species
that
were
selected
along
De
Anza
have
kind
of
a
wider
canopy,
which
we
believed
would
help
to
attenuate
some
of
the
noise
from
the
cars
that
travel
up
and
down
De
Anza,
especially
for
those
residences
along
De
Anza.
So
those
were
a
couple
of
reasons
why
those
trees
were
selected.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Were
there
any
other
questions
needed
to
be
answered
from
from
sanjim
I,
don't
believe
so
Sanji.
Did
you
get
all
your
answers?
It
was
it
still
some
odds.
F
Yeah,
it
will
be
good
to
to
get
an
answer
to
that.
The
pollution
piece
to
it
because
of
the
vehicle
of
traffic
on
dianz
and
the
Stevens
Creek
Boulevard,
because
this
is
this
complex-
is
sandwiched
between
those
two
extremely
busy
Pathways
and
there
are
200
and
plus
people
are
going
to
stay
there.
So
so
how
healthy
and
how
contaminated
environment
could
be
for
those
set
of
people,
and
there
should
be
some
kind
of
a
matrix,
I
guess,
foreign.
T
T
The
the
question
that
you're
asking
is
really
the
what
we
commonly
refer
to
as
like
reverse
SQL,
so
you're
asking
about
the
impacts
of
the
environment
on
the
project,
which
is
not
something
that
we
analyze
in
SQL
SQL
is
interested
in
the
impacts
of
the
project
on
the
environment.
So
that's
why
I
use
the
word,
reverse
and
I
think
what
with
respect
to
the
transportation
and
impacts
from
the
intersections
and
from
the
roadway
you're
talking
about,
they
can
be
mitigated
and
I.
T
I
would
need
to
look
into
this
to
see
where
we
are
on
the
map,
but
the
Bay
Area
Air,
Quality,
Management
District
does
maintain
a
map
that
designates
where
you
are
and
if
you're
in
one
of
these
zones
that
is
considered
a
toxic
Zone,
usually
they're
along
major
roadways,
and
you
mitigate
that
by
putting
in
a
certain
level
of
indoor
air
quality
filters,
and
so
those
were
not
a
required
piece
of
the
mitigation
for
this.
T
D
What
I,
what
I
could
add
to
this
is
you
know,
I
can
suggest
we
can
add
chapter
or
chapter
17
does
include
language
about
Merv
filters
along
these
corridors
that
Terry
had
explained.
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
if
this
development
is
adjacent
to
one
of
those
corridors
that
we
would
require
the
applicant
to
be
consistent
with
chapter
17.,
that
they
would
add,
some
type
of
like
I,
said
Murph
indoor
filters
and
whatnot.
C
Okay
and
yeah-
maybe
the
applicant,
can
say
that
they've
even
looked
into
this
into
indoor
air
filtration
on
the
units
that
are
facing
Stevens
Creek,
Indiana
I.
Guess
it's
mainly
the
answer,
because
it's
aren't
they're
they're
set
back
from
Stevens
Creek
pretty
far.
L
Oh
sorry,
chair
sharp.
Yes,
we
would
we're
very
open
if
to
add
it's
not
something
that
has
come
up
in
the
past.
It
wasn't
called
out
in
any
of
the
traffic
studies
that
we
had
done,
and
so
it
kind
of
took
me
by
surprise
that
we
can
certainly
address
that
as
part
of
our
design
criteria.
E
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
need
a
lot
of
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
first
of
all,
thanks
to
the
developer
and
the
staff
for
bringing
up,
you
know
a
plan,
that's
much
better
than
the
original
plan,
so
we
really
appreciate
it.
E
E
I
have
some
comments
and
some
questions
right.
So
I'll
go
through
the
comments.
First
and
then
you
know
questions
at
the
end.
E
The
construction
quality
and
the
architectural
design
is
something
that
no,
we
all
want
to
be
proud
of.
So
I'm,
not
an
architect,
but
I
can
tell
you
know
which
ones
I
want
to
live
in
which
ones
you
know
I
definitely
don't
want.
You
know,
live
in
right,
so
so
the
ask
to
the
the
applicant
is,
you
know
just
make
me
want
to
move
out
of
my
home
to
this
condo.
Okay.
So
so
that's
my
ask
so.
E
And
also
appreciate,
you
know
the
power
ownership
housing
being
offered
in
Cupertino,
because
that
is
kind
of
you
know
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
because
I
want
people
to
feel
proud
of.
You
know
they
speak
that
they
live
in
and
I'll
say
no
won
the
house.
You
know
in
the
long
term
where
you
know
when
they
retire,
you
don't
have
the
mortgage
payment
or
you
know
or
rent.
You
know
they
have
to
pay.
You
know
when
they
don't
have
an
income
right.
E
So
so
that's
why
I
think
you
know
the
ownership
home
comes,
plays
a
very
crucial
role.
So
thanks
for
converting
this
India
ownership,
Home
Project
thanks
for
keeping
the
retail
element
given
that
location
retail
is
very
key.
So
I
see
that
now
you
almost
kept.
You
know
the
same
amount
of
retail
as
you
know
what
exists
there.
So
we
really
appreciate
that
parking
spaces
for
retail.
This
is
very
important.
Otherwise
you
know
it's
a
disservice
to
the
retailers.
I
mean
I,
for
example.
E
You
know,
don't
go
to
the
complexes
where
I
cannot
park
right
so
and
I.
You
know,
I
I
know
very
well.
You
know
which
car
complexes
you
know
I
can
go
and
find
a
parking
and
which
ones
you
know
I,
just
don't
even
want
to
bother
going
there.
So
please
make
take
care
of
you
know
your
retail
tenants
by
providing
an
adequate
parking.
E
E
What
about
badly
is
that?
No
okay?
Okay,
that's
good!
Okay!
So
all
all
the
entries
are
from
Alvis.
Okay,
I
saw
a
table.
That
said,
you
know
the
BMR
unit,
you
know
the
average
size
and
all
that
so
I
presume
you
know.
If
you
do
the
multiplication,
the
square
footage
of
the
all
the
BMR
units
combined,
you
know,
is
proportional
to
you
know
what
we
expect
that
to
be
like
20
right.
Yes,
okay,
I,
appreciate
that,
because
you
know
I,
you
know
it's
a
disservice.
E
You
know
to
people
when
BMR
units
are
you
know,
micro
units-
and
you
know,
on
the
map
for
market
rate
here
units
are
much
bigger,
so
I
really
appreciate.
You
know
you
guys
taking
care
of
that.
You
know
making
sure
that
no
the
BMR
units
are
same
size.
As
you
know,
the
market
rate
units-
this
is
probably
the
biggest
question.
E
Can
we
look
at
you
know
increasing
Building
B
to
five
stories
and
get
more
BMR
units.
You
know
with
some
kind
of
you
know,
grants
and
funding
from
other
sources
like
because
that's
a
great
opportunity.
The
other
two
buildings
are,
you
know,
five
five
story
high
and
this
one
is,
you
know
four
story.
High
I
I
feel
that
you
know
we
are
missing
an
opportunity
there.
This
is
an
ask
for
the
staff
to
see
you
know
that
can
be
explored.
That
way.
You
know
we
can
increase.
E
You
know
the
affordable
housing
stock
and,
put
you
know
also
next
question
to
the
staff:
what's
the
height
of
the
corner
building,
that's
you
know
ten
thousand
one,
not
the
answer.
Boulevard,
that's
the
top
is
building.
So
is
that
taller
than
the
what's
being
proposed
here.
D
I
I
believe
it's
it's
actually
shorter,
because
I
think
it's
three
stories
so
I
I
don't
know
for
sure
how
how
tall
it
is,
but
it
appears
to
be
shorter.
E
Yeah
it
used
to
be
10,
Micro
I
think
you
know
now.
Apple
is
actually
wearing
it.
Okay,
so
that
you're
saying
no
that's
shorter.
Okay,
let's
see
feedback
from
the
community
is
all
well
and
good,
so
the
community
room
that's
being
offered
for
50c
threes.
E
Is
there
an
is
that
free
or
is
it
nominal
fee?
There
is
a
nominal
fee
for
it.
L
E
L
L
No,
our
our
preference
at
this
point
and
what
we
proposed
that
it
would
be
limited
to
5013c
non-profits
within
the
city
of
Cupertino
within.
E
The
city
of
Cupertino,
okay,
that's
key!
Okay!
That's
good
thanks!
The
EV
charging
right
so
is
that
some
kind
of
a
commercial
vendor
installing
EV
charging
there
or
is
it
all
like?
You
know
the
property
you
owned,
and
you
know
the
community
won't
EV
Chargers.
L
I
would
Envision
this
is
very
early
on
in
the
design
process,
but
I
would
Envision
that
the
garage
for
residences
would
be
installed
by
the
project
and
as
part
of
the
HOA
Administration,
and
that
the
retail
we
have
54
EV
ready
spaces
for
retail.
That
would
be
up
at
the
garage
at
the
street
level.
Those
potentially
I
would
see
those
being
subcontracted
to
someone
who
does
that
business.
Okay,.
E
Okay,
so
the
retail
ones
would
be.
You
know
some
commercial
charging
vendor
if.
L
E
Hoa
one
one:
yes,
okay,
last
this
one
on
same
on
the
EV
charging.
Why
not
make
you
know
every
parking
spot,
a
UV
chargeable
parking
spot.
So
that
way
you
know
we
don't
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
gas
cars
parking
gear
and
you
know
the
EV
cars.
You
know
parking
there.
So
that
way
you
know
there
is
a
flexibility
and
no
restriction.
L
L
You
end
up
having
a
huge
amount
of
electricity
provided
amps
when
you
equip
every
space
or
you
plan
to
equip
every
space
with
an
EV
charger
and
we're
already
at
a
point
where
that
the
the
amount
of
electricity
required
just
for
the
208
spaces
that
we
have
in
the
garage
is,
is
excessive
and
so
we're
be
we're
getting
squeezed
in
the
whole
infrastructure
of
of
supply
and
that
much
juice
for
that
many
spaces
in
the
garage.
Okay,
if
we
could
do
it,
we
would
love
to
do
it.
U
E
U
Been
a
lot
of
questions
about
EB
charging,
so
there's
just
one
point
that
I
want
to
clarify
and
that's
the
the
spaces
are
being
made
EV
ready,
which
means
that
they're
their
setup,
the
building
is
built
to
allow
for
EV
charging
in
the
future,
and
that's
pursuant
to
first
of
all,
the
state
screen
building
code
requires
a
certain
number
of
spaces,
be
EB
ready
and
your
city
has
a
local
Amendment
to
the
building
code
that
that's
called
a
reach
code
that
goes
further
than
the
Green
Building
Code.
U
That's
why
the
spaces
are
being
offered
this
way
and
the
reason
behind
those
codes
is
that
as
more
and
more
people,
you
know
if
you
build
a
building
today,
it's
meant
to
be
around
first
century.
You
know
approximately
and
more
and
more
people
are
purchasing
electric
vehicles
every
day,
and
so,
if
we're
building
this
building
for
the
future,
there
will
be
a
time
in
the
future.
When
that
many
more
people
are
driving
electric
vehicles,
we
want
the
building
to
be
built
now
to
accommodate
the
future
need.
U
So,
that's
why
the
applicants
offering
this
because
it's
required
to
understand
local
law
and
and
so
that
we
can
accommodate
future
needs.
So
it's
done
so
many
questions
have
been
asked
about
the
EV
charge
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
point.
C
Right
and
remember
the
now,
the
state
requirement
I
think
2035.
It
won't
even
be
selling
gasoline-powered
cars
and
this
building's
going
to
be
around
a
lot
longer
than
2035.
E
Know
at
night
yeah
you
can
manage
the
load
where
only
like
you
know,
50
of
the
cars
are
charging
at
any
given
point
in
time
or
whatever,
but
every
spot
is
you
know,
provision
for
Ev.
That
would
be
great.
So
that
way,
you
know
we
can
avoid
this
issue
up.
You
know
I
can't
park
here
and
I'll
have
to
go
and
look
for
a
parking
somewhere
else,
because
I
have
a
gas
car
right.
So,
okay
last
question:
so
are
there
any
protected
trees,
large
trees,
that
are
being
you
know,
brought
down?
E
D
Yeah
I
could
start
answering
and
then,
if
the
project,
our
landscape
Arctic,
was
to
jump
in
from
from
what
we
can
see,
there's
no
large
tree
similar
to
what
was
at
the
Oaks,
that's
being
taken
out.
That
I
mean,
of
course,
they're
always
worthy
to
be
protected,
but
you
know,
of
course
you
know,
you
know
we
protect
every
tree.
We
can't
build
out,
but
nothing
that
I
would
say
would
suggest
that
there's
something
some
massive
Oak
outside
or
massive
Redwood.
That
is.
M
Let
me
just
chime
in
on
that
too.
That's
correct,
I
mean
we
are
taking
out
some.
What
you
cut
the
city
would
classify
as
ordinance
ordinance
size,
trees.
There
are,
but
we're
talking
about
pine
trees
that
are
in
Decline
for
the
most
part,
some
of
the
really
large
trees
or
some
really
large
Tilia
trees
that
we
did
design
around.
E
M
We're
we
are
taking
out
all
of
the
trees
that
are
on
site
in
the
way
of
the
building.
As
I
said,
there
are
several
trees
around
the
perimeter
which
we
were
able
to
work
around,
but.
M
That
that's
correct,
except
for
the
street
trees
that
are
on
elves.
There
are
some
kind
of
low
quality
Magnolias
that
are
in
tiny
little
tree
Wells
and
we're
taking
those
out
and
we're
going
to
place
them
with
trees
to
match.
What's
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
so
it'll
be
a
much
more
cohesive
streetscape
in
the
end.
Okay,.
J
Thanks
Stephen
and
thank
you
for
the
city
staff
and
the
developer
for
the
proposal.
I
really
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
it
is
for
ownership
or
not
rental
I
think
that
one
big
challenge
with
Oriental
properties,
property
in
related
issues
and
with
the
with
the
condos
and
so
on
WE
over
time,
will
have
some
more
turnover,
I
think.
The
the
second
thing
is
about
the
the
fact
that
many
of
the
homes
are
senior
friendly,
I.
J
Think
a
couple
of
the
residents
also
mentioned
that
and
we
I
really
appreciate
that.
J
The
third
thing
is
that
we
have
a
single
level
parking
and
the
parking
seems
to
be
reasonably
adequate
for
the
for
the
traffic
we
expect
and
the
residents
we
expect
and
I
think
I
really
appreciate.
Fact
Two
level
parking
lots
are
a
mess
just
trying
to
find
a
parking
spot
and
so
on
and
I
hope.
There
is
a
enough
way
to
guide
people
to
find
the
right
parking
spot
using
some
modern
tech,
including
the
lighting
and
so
on.
J
So
people
don't
have
to
go
around
in
the
garage
looking
for
a
parking
spot.
So,
if
it's
not
there,
that
would
be
a
sedation
I
would
request
the
city
to
add,
though,
the
other
thing
which
I
wanted
to
know
more
about
was
the
EV
thing.
J
Okay,
as
we
know,
California
is
requiring
only
EV
cars
in
just
more
than
over
a
decade,
and
hopefully
this
building
will
be
around
for
more
than
for
a
long
time
now,
I
heard
the
developers
representative
talked
about
the
fact
that
the
infra
needed
to
have
every
every
Point
charging
is
not
ready
or
it's
it
stresses
the
systems.
J
A
lot
and
I
personally
would
like
to
get
some
more
knowledge
about
that,
and
you
know
some
more
technical
details,
I'm
a
double
eBay
training
on
on
what
that
is,
and
whether
the
city
has
any
plans
on
working
with
PG
e
or
other
folks
to
help
address
those
issues
going
forward.
J
The
last
thing
and
I
think
the
prime,
the
big
question
I
have
is
on
the
setback
requirement
the
10
feet.
One
and
I
really
appreciate,
if
you
know
Gyan,
if
you
or
somebody
else
could
zoom
in
in
to
see
what
is
the
neighboring
a
lot
and
how
does
that
look
and
feel
I
know
we
sort
of
probably
covered
it,
but
I
like
to
revisit
that,
because
I
think
to
me.
That
is
the
one
big
question
mark
in
my
mind
whether
the
10
feet
setback
is
enough.
J
Both
from
for
multiple
perspectives
from
safety
is
10
feet
enough
for
a
fire
truck
to
come
in
there
if
needed,
or
maybe
that's
not
the
fire
route.
So
it's
not
needed.
Second
thing
is
in
terms
of
the
sunlight
and
ventilation
if
the
other
building
is
very
close
and
finally,
from
the
Aesthetics
point
of
view.
So
if
you
could
dig
deeper
into
that.
D
Let
me
know
if
you
can
see
this
yeah
okay,
so
the
10
foot
area
would
be
10
foot
step
back
right
here,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
parking
lot
underground
parking
lot
entrance
of
the
neighboring
office
building.
D
So
you
know,
even
with
the
minimized
setback,
the
you
know,
there'll
be
no
light
and
air
issues
over
the
of
a
building
or
anyone
walking
over
there.
It's
it's
a
pretty
wide
gap
between
the
the
building
on
the
Sutherland
and
in
the
post
structure.
J
And
thinking
forward,
how
will
that
impact
the
right
of
the
the
plot
owner
which
who's
there
currently
now
on
the
other
building?
Will
they
like
does
that
in
the
future?
If
they
want
to
redevelop?
What
would
we
tell
them
about
this?
J
D
You
know
I,
you
know
this,
you
know
the
10
foot
setback
comes
in
as
a
waiver
as
part
of
a
density
bonus
ordinance.
You
know
if
this,
if
the
project
to
the
South
is
not
a
density,
Mouse
project,
and
they
don't
request
it,
you
know
if
it's
just
a
you
know
they
we
they
would
have
to
abide
by
the
ordinance
as
written
without
any
waivers.
J
J
Yeah
I
think
that's
my
only
concern
here
that
you
know,
while
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
project
overall,
that
when
we
give
the
waivers-
and
we
give
these
things-
that
also
impacts
the
ability
of
the
next
door
neighbor
to
develop
their
property.
Did
we
hear
any
feedback
from
them
on
this.
D
No,
no
comms
have
come
into
staff
from
any
of
the
neighboring
properties.
Actually,
okay,.
J
Okay,
good
so
at
least
you
know
them
not
raised
it,
but
you
know
to
me
that
is
one
area
of
concern
and
they
do
get
the
communication
from
the
city
about
this
development
and
everything
right,
yeah,
okay
and
I.
J
Think
and
I'd
love
to
get
more
information
about
the
electricity
load
part
a
part
of
thing,
whether
the
developer
has
it
or
if
somebody
else
has
it
that
would
be
good
to
understand
but
like
what
exactly
are
the
constraints
there
and
how
do
they
impact
any
future
development
because
we're
not
that
far
away
from
every
car
being
electric,
hopefully
pretty
soon,
yeah
hold
it
I'm
done.
C
New
very
good
we're
moving
on
to
commissioner
Wong
welcome
Ray.
V
Hey
thanks
a
lot
chair
thanks
a
lot
City
staff
for
the
presentation
and
the
and
the
team
presenting
for
the
marina
project.
I
have
a
couple
questions
I
think
most
have
been
answered
by
my
fellow
Commissioners
for
your
questions.
I
think
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
question
around
really
around
the
restrictions
on
occupancies
and
I.
I
know
earlier
in
this.
V
In
conversations
in
the
past,
I
think
there
was
a
some
touting
of
having
a
high
owner
occupancy
rate
in
terms
of
owned
as
opposed
to
rental
units.
That's
something
I
just
want
to
check
with
the
city
attorney
that
can
be
limited
if,
on
our
end
as
well
right,
we
can
place
restrictions
for
that.
I
just
want
to
double
check.
B
H
You
know,
there's
actually
nothing
in
our
code
that
would
authorize
any
sort
of
limitation
or
restrictions
on
on
those
properties.
Typically,
restrictions
on
rental
are
regulated
by
ccnrs,
which
are
governed
by
state
law
and
again
I'm,
not
aware
of
anything
in
our
code.
That
would
allow
us
this
Authority
and
not
worry,
of
any
precedent
that
supports
and
other
occupancy
requirement.
V
Okay
good
to
know
yeah,
because
there
could
be
a
number
of
large
cash
buyers.
It's
given
the
neighborhood,
which
would
then
allow
for
the
financing
to
kind
of
be
skewed.
We
do
really
want
to
encourage
owner-occupied,
housing
and,
and
that's
something
to
to
list
there.
I've
got
a
question
around
the
tree
aspect
and
I.
V
Think
for
the
tree
aspect,
I
think
was
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
whether
we
should
probably
make
a
recommendation
from
the
from
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
tree
species
and
the
amount
of
native
plantings
to
be
considered
by
Council
before
the
presentation,
and
maybe
something
our
fellow
Commissioners
can
think
about.
As
we
get
to
the
vote
stage
on
the
parking
side,
I
do
want
to
know
John
if
the
what
would
be
the
right
retail
parking
without
the
density
bonus
concessions
that
we
should
have
for
retail
above
ground.
D
A
great
question:
you
know
the
density
bones,
you
know
the
density
bone
standard
of
reduction
of
parking
only
applies
to
the
residential
portion,
so
they're
actually
over
parked.
You
know
Pro
ordinance,
so
our
ordinance
states
that
the
the
ratio
is
one
to
two,
fifty
and
so
to
providing
about.
You
know
quite
a
bit
more
as.
V
D
V
The
comments
by
Commissioners
saxena
actually
got
me
to
thinking
about
how
we
are
using
electrical
loads
and
how
our
reach
codes
are
are
impacting
this.
If
we
all
do
move
to
electric
vehicles
and
we
do
get
to
those
loads,
we
will
not
be
able
to
power.
We
do
not
have
the
energy
capacity
in
the
State
to
power.
V
The
number
of
vehicles
here,
which
leads
us
to
CMC
1654-1,
dot,
100
2A,
which
is
our
reach
code
on
gas
stoves,
and
does
the
applicant
plan
to
follow
an
exemption
to
allow
gas
as
an
option
for
heat
and
ranges
and
cooking
for
for
the
properties
as
needed.
I'm
just
saying
because
you
know
power
goes
out,
you
guys
are
all
done
right.
You
can't
cook,
you
can't
heat,
you
can't
I
mean
you're
out,
but
but
I
know
the
environmental
implications.
People
are
talking
about
this
and
I
do
understand.
V
You
know
having
a
good
vent
will
solve
most
of
the
questions,
but
you
know
there's
a
push.
This
is
really
not
going
to
take
out
a
lot
of
the
footprint
and
then,
of
course,
it
seems
like
there's
enough
gas
for
the
restaurants
to
cook
with
as
an
exemption,
so
just
making
sure
that's
there
for
the
potential
restaurant
owners.
D
So
you're
right,
commissioner
Wong,
the
the
applicant,
does
have
the
the
choice
to
to
file
for
an
exemption
with
our
building
official
for
for
the
gas
and
I
think
that
the
applicant
has
started
that
process
already,
particularly
for
the
the
restaurant
portions
of
the
retail,
the
areas
for
the
gas
exemption-
and
you
know
and
and
that's
something
that
you
know
providations
of
building
permits
that
you
know
are
building
official,
will,
will
make
a
file
determination
on
just
want
clarification.
D
You
know
this,
you
know
the
EV
parking
standards
and
the
other
standards
that
go
under
the
umbrella
of
of
the
reach
codes
have
already
been
reviewed
by
our
sustainability
division.
D
V
One
of
the
remedies
that
I've
been
seeing
in
different
buildings
across
the
country
is,
is
really
a
valley
service
for
the
electric
vehicles.
That
way,
you
don't
have
to
have
that
many
Chargers
and
you
can
actually
move
cars
around
as
needed,
which
gives
you
a
better
capacity,
something
for
the
applicant
to
think
about
that
way.
You
won't
have
to
you
know,
incur
the
cost
of
too
many
600
amp
Breakers,
which
are
not
fun
to
find,
as
you
probably
have
discovered,
those
are
very,
very
expensive.
But
yes,
one
thing
there.
V
I
do
have
a
couple
other
items,
real,
quick
and
I
think
these
are
just
related
to
just
internal
stuff.
On
our
end,
one
of
them
is
really
will
we
be
enforcing
the
RV
parking
and
random
trucks
that
seem
to
be
parked
everywhere
on
family
and
elsewhere,
as
we
get
residents
there
in
place,
because
I
think
parking
is
going
to
become
more
of
a
premium?
C
That
is
a
good
question
and
I
do
believe
the
city
council
at
one
pre-covered,
we
had
started
talking
about
RV
parking
ordinances,
we
kind
of
dropped
that
during
covid
and
hopefully
the
future
city
council
will,
you
know,
will
take
that
up
again
but
I'm.
Sorry,
who
else
was
who
else
is
responding
on
that?
That
was
just
me
asking:
okay,
okay
and.
V
Do
we
have
a
do?
We
have
pricing
per
square
feet
estimates
for
these
for
sale
units
in
place
at
all
to
the
applicant
Reagan
team,
foreign.
L
Fishing,
our
chair
and
commissioner
long
at
this
time.
We
don't
we
don't
Envision
the
units
coming
to
Market,
probably
for
two
years,
and
so
that
has
not
been
a
focus
of
our
research.
At
this
point.
Oh.
V
Well,
I
mean
for
any
basic
economic
economic
calculation.
I
would
imagine
there
was
some
kind
of
Target
for
price
per
square
foot
right.
You
have
a
cost
per
square
foot.
You
should
should
have
a
rough
idea
of
the
price
per
square
foot.
Just
curious
I
was
just
throwing
it
out
there
to
know
okay
in
general,
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
project.
V
I
think
it's
important
I'm
glad
that
we've
gone
to
more
owner
occupied
for
sale,
housing
back
to
some
of
the
points
it
helps
with
our
school
districts
on
turnover
and
for
Prop
13
funding.
I
think
it's
important
that
we've
actually
increased
and
we've
kept
the
amount
to
retail
space.
A
lot
of
these
mixed-use
projects
cut
the
retail
space
at
the
expense
of
city
tax
revenues
and
the
quality
of
life
for
residents.
V
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
that
you've
done
on
the
Eco
side,
especially
being
two
points
away
from
a
gold
lead
certification
that
are
great
for
the
city.
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
you've
thought
through
a
lot
of
the
Outreach
I
found
the
interactions
to
be
a
professional
across
the
board.
I
think
it's
been
good.
Outreach
I
think
people
are
looking
for
larger
units
and
I.
V
Think
a
good
number
of
individuals
are
going
to
take
advantage
of
prop
1960
40
to
be
able
to
move
their
tax
base,
so
I
think
you're
going
to
see
maybe
a
bigger
demand
for
larger
units
than
smaller
units,
so
something
to
think
about.
As
you
look
at
your
allocation
over
time
and
then,
of
course,
I
think
most
important
piece
here
really
is
the
fact
that
you
know
we
are
building
more
housing
here
in
Cupertino
and
I
agree
with
Vice
chairmanipotla
for
developers.
V
Cupertino
is
open
to
building
and
partnering
with
developers
who
have
good
intent,
who
have
good
faith
and
really
look
forward
to
building
housing
projects
that
the
city
looks
forward
to
and
has
good
input.
So
thank
you
very
much.
C
Great
thank
you.
Ray
okay,
I'm
gonna,
go
before
the
community
East
Library
hand
raised,
but
I'll
I
will
go
first.
Okay,
first
of
all
Jennifer
Griffin.
It
was
an
alpha
beta,
not
a
safe
way
there
just
to
correct
that
I
had
a
question
for
the
applicant.
Is
there
any
idea
of
what
percentage
of
restaurants
versus
what
percentage
of
actual
retail
you
would
be
doing.
L
The
sure
sharp
the
plan
as
it
stands
now,
there's
about
41
000
square
feet
of
total
retail
restaurant
and
of
that
the
plan
that
we
submitted
in
the
parking
we
calculated
for
has
about
15
000
square
feet
of
actual
Reef
restaurant
uses.
C
C
Okay,
because
you
know
this
would
be
I
know
when
it's
rental
housing,
it's
an
issue
because
generally
it's
not
individually
metered,
but
you
know
for
condos.
You
know
it's
still
an
issue
because
everyone
will
be
paying
for
their
own.
All
the
condos
are
individually
metered
is
that
for
water
right.
C
The
next
question
see
you
there's
a
couple
of
things:
I
had
about
bicycles,
so
you
mentioned
electric
car
charging,
pretty
often
what
about
electric
bicycle
charging
in
the
garage,
because
lately
I've
been
seeing
a
lot
of
reports
of
electric
bicycle
fires
and
they
end
up
starting
a
fire
and
destroying
a
whole
building.
So
it'd
be
great
if
the
bicycle
parking
in
the
garage
also
had
outputs
available
for
Chargers.
If
not,
these
are
not
my
current
charges,
not
maybe
five
or
ten
amps
but
I.
L
C
Okay
and
then
more
about
bicycling,
you
mentioned
City
requirements
for
bike
racks,
but
you
know
one
issue
we
keep
seeing
on
next.
Door
is
bike
theft
in
places
like
Target
and
other
retailers
and
at
the
library,
and
we
did
put
in
some
secure
bike
parking.
It's
a
company
called
bike,
keep
out
of
San
Francisco,
so
it's
super
secure.
You
can't
cut
the
lock
and
that
it
would
be
really
nice
for
the
retail
area
if
we
had
some
kind
of
secure
bike
parking
either
lockers
or
these
secure
bike
racks.
C
C
Okay,
yeah
and
you
can
go
over
and
look
at
what's
at
the
library
and
Community
Hall,
there's
two
sets
of
racks
over
there.
Unfortunately,
they're
not
heavily
used,
even
though
we
have
bike
thefts
at
the
library,
I
was
hoping
more
people
would
use
the
secure
parking,
but
it's
not
happening
yet
Okay
so
and
so
I
presume
in
the
garage.
C
You
know
it's
true
that
a
bank
doesn't
like
to
lend
if
more
than
50
of
the
units
are
not
owner
occupied
but
as
we've
seen
lately,
there's
a
lot
of
cash
deals
and
I
would
hate
for
some
real
estate
investor
to
come
in
and
say
I'm
going
to
buy
every
one
of
these
condos
and
turn
them
into
rentals
and
then
we're
back
to
where
we
were
before,
and
we
have
a
building
full
of
206
or
minus
the
BMR,
which
must
be
on
our
octopod.
C
We
have
a
bunch
of
rental
units
so
I,
you
know,
I
I,
understand
what
the
City
attorney
said.
We
don't
have
any
regulation
like
that,
but
it
would
be
wonderful
if
the
ccnr
for
the
HOA
had
some
kind
of
a
limit
on
the
percentage
of
units
that
could
be
turned
into
rentals.
I
wouldn't
say
you
know
to
absolutely
forbid
it,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
some
limit
on
that
because
a
lot
of
times
the
mortgages
needs
an
issue
anymore.
C
H
I
I
know
for,
for
we
could
pass
regulations
for
short-term
rentals.
You
know.
Well,
we
already
do
it.
Yeah
yeah.
C
C
C
That
that
is
good
as
well.
Okay,
so
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
If
anyone
has
anything,
oh
wait,
there
goes
Sanji
go
ahead.
Sanji.
F
Just
if
you
wanted
to
check
on
the
children,
playground
and
the
park
related
area
for
the
206
units,
which
you
have
providing
and
second
thing,
is
that
what
are
the
school
primary
as
well
as
the
middle
middle
I
know,
is
a
probably
the
close
one,
but
I
wasn't
sure
that
where
the
children
for
these
households
will
be
going
to
which
schools
they
will
be
going,
these
two
questions,
I.
Think.
D
Yeah,
the
Project's
not
required
to
provide
a
playground
just
common
open
space
for
the
you
know
the
residents
as
well
as
the
commercial
uses,
but
they
will
will
have
to
pay
Park
impact
fees
which,
which
I
think
Chad
could
probably
explain
better
if,
if
needed,
I'm,
not
quite
sure
which
school
this
would
draw
from.
J
C
Believe
it'll
be
lost
in
the
middle
and
Monte
Vista
High
School
I
would
presume
it
would
be
Garden
Gate,
Elementary,
yeah.
A
C
You
so
oh
yeah,
one
thing
I
forget:
is
there
any
recreation
facility
in
this
building
like
a
gym,
I
get
presume,
there's
no
swimming
pool,
but
what's
planned
in
terms
of
amenities
for
the
homeowners
there.
D
I
call
it
the
applicant
describe
in
further
detail
the
the
could.
The
combined
amenities
there
is
a
rooftop
Community,
open
space
that
will
be
on
each
each
building
as
well.
Greg.
Can
you
clarify
if
there's
a
gym
amenities,
including
each
building
there.
L
Is
no,
there
is
not
a
gym,
there's
the
rooftop
gardens
and
then
there's
the
center
Courtyards
in
each
building,
which
will
have
barbecues
and
seating
and
gathering
places.
And
then
we
have
the
community
room
as
well.
That
can
be
used
by
the
residents,
but
we
did
not
carve
out
space.
We
we
decided,
we
wanted
a
community
room
as
opposed
to
having
a
fitness
facility
with
YMCA
in
the
area.
We
thought
that
would
be
take
care
of
the
workout
side
up.
E
Yeah
so
Building
B,
making
that
five
story
and
getting
leveraging
that
for
more
blousing.
C
Yeah
so
I
I
can't
really
say
much
about
that
other
than
there
was
some
looking
into
something
like
that
and
with
outside
entities
and
it
it
did
not
come
to
fruition.
Yeah.
E
C
E
C
Well
yeah,
maybe
the
applicant
can
comment
because
I
you
know
I
I,
don't
want
to
say
any
more
personally.
So.
L
Sure
sure,
if
I
can
I
can
briefly
comment
and
then
I'll
throw
the
ball
to
John.
We
did
look
at
the
five-story
option
for
Building
B,
but
I
believe
the
general
plan
limits
us
as
to
densities,
and
it
would
require
a
general
plan
amendment
should
we
want
to
add
that
additional
amount
of
units
and
so
and
our
Eric,
our
Council
who's
I
think
still
on,
can
also
speak
to
this,
but
it
was
looked
at
early
on,
but
because
of
the
city
regulations,
it
wasn't
feasible.
We.
C
F
U
C
Okay,
yeah,
so
Mooney
I
think
that
you
know
they
they
could
come
and
submit
a
GP.
You
know
go
through
the
Gateway
process
and
ask
for
a
GPA.
You
know
if
they
wanted
to
change
that,
and
you
know
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
even
even
if
and
when
this
is
approved
tonight,
you
could
still
come
back
and
modify
it
like
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
wish
yeah.
E
Yeah
I
I
I
I'm
I'm
All
For
You
Know
approving
as
submitted,
but
that
is
my
ask
and
if
they
want
to
come
back,
you
know
and
even
city
council
to
consider
that
would
be
my
recommendation
that
you
know
that
they
canceled
that
option.
E
C
Thank
you,
okay,
meaning
I'm,
gonna,
lower
your
hand
here
and
now
we
can.
Let's
see
we
can
have
a
motion
now.
H
C
All
right
so
I
will
close
this
oh
wait:
Vikram,
oh
no,
okay,
I
will
close
this
public
hearing
and
yeah.
We
can
make
a
motion.
We
can
discuss
it
further
after
the
motion
as
well.
So
let's
see
we'll
go
back
to
the
agenda
here.
V
As
you
make
your
motion
chair,
I
I
would
like
to
just
make
the
suggestion
on
the
recommendations
for
trees
to
be
part
of
that.
So.
V
C
A
D
But
I
I
do
want
to
add
some
potential
conditions
just
based
upon
the
feedback
from
the
commission.
If
that's
okay,
if
I
share
my
screen.
D
So
a
couple
conditions
one
was
that
to
memorialize
the
use
of
the
community
room
as
described
by
the
applicant
by
communities,
501c3
organizations
community
meeting
like
the
local
community,
Cupertino
communities,
501c3
organizations-
and
this
could
be
done
through
the
ccnr's
ccnr
condition,
and
the
other
one
is
that
prior
editions
of
building
permits
comply
with
the
appropriate
managed
indoor
air
pollution
requirements
from
chapter
17.04.
Of
course,
we
will
craft
these
conditions
a
little
more
professionally,
but
you
know
this
I
think
this
is
a
gist
of
whoa.
V
V
C
Have
a
question
we'll
also
add
in
the
things
that
John
Mater
mentioned,
but
change
Community
to
Cupertino
to
Cupertino
registered
501c3s.
J
C
I,
don't
know
if
that's
appropriate
here,
you
know,
we've
stated
it
in
the
city
council
to
consider
it,
but
I
mean.
Would
that
be
appropriate
to
put
in
here
Michael
to.
C
C
Can
be
taller,
of
course,
this
is
up
to
the
applicant
to
decide
whether
they
wish
to
make
that
GPA
application.
C
F
I
just
wanted
to
ask
one
more
thing
was
about
the
lighting
fixtures
and
all
those
things
is
that
a
plan
to
use
some
of
the
technology
available
rather
than
depending
on
the
grid
like
solar
and
things
like
that.
So
is
there
a
similar
things
have
been
thought
about
for
not
only
for
lighting
pictures
but
also
other
other
eco-friendly,
smart
pictures.
L
C
That's
correct
right:
yeah
I
mean
that's,
you
know,
that's
one
trade-off
with
high
density
housing.
You
cannot
have
the
Energy
Efficiency
of
of
a
single
family
home
in
terms
of
solar
power
generation,
but
yeah.
That
was
a
trade-off.
So
all
right,
I
think
we
have
the
most
in
the
Amendments
we're
ready
to
vote.
Now
we
have
a
roll
call.
C
Okay,
we
are
on
to
Old
business
where
there
is
none
new
business.
None
thank
you
for
the
modification
to
the
agenda
to
specifically
stay
Anonymous,
so
we
don't
try
to
discuss
things
we
should
not
be
discussing,
and
now
we
are
on
to
staff
and
commission
reports.
Does
anyone
have
anything
they
would
like
to
say
any
meetings
they
attended?
J
C
Oh
yeah,
that's
after
staff
and
commission
reports;
okay,
yeah
I,
can't
think
of
anything
okay.
So
we
are
on
to
Future
agenda
setting.
Okay
Vikram.
You
had
something
yeah.
J
I
wanted
to
get
an
update
and
actually
put
on
an
agenda
about
the
student
generation
ratio
impacts
which
we've
been
discussing
for
the
previous
meetings.
We
had
a
work
item
for
that
and
I
wanted
to
get
a
report
on
that
as
soon
as
possible.
Even
if
it
says
no
progress
but-
and
you
know
just
to
get
a
sense
of
understanding
of
what
efforts
the
city
had
taken
and
what
response
we
have
received
from
cust
ody.
C
G
The
only
thing
we
have
is
their
student
dinner,
their
report,
but
other
than
that.
That's
not
something
that
we
can
discuss
right
now.
In
any
case,
right.
C
I,
you
know
we
can
put
this
on
the
agenda.
I
do
have
a
spreadsheet
from
several
years
ago
that
we
could
use.
It
was
done
for
a
different
project,
but
it's
based
on
the
type
of
units
rental
or
for
sale,
and
this
and
the
size.
So
we
I
could
try
to
dig
that
up.
It
won't
be
from
the
schools,
but
the
original
one
was
from
the
schools,
so
it
actually
is
from
them
so
yeah.
Maybe
we
can
put
that
on
the
agenda.
If
I
can
find
that
report,
anything
else
for
future
agenda.