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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - July 6, 2023
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Coverage of the Thursday, July 6, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting
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B
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A
Each
year,
people
throughout
the
country
observe
July
as
Parks
and
Recreation
month,
recognizing
that
Parks
and
Recreation
built
stronger,
healthier
and
more
resilient
communities
right
here
in
Cupertino,
Parks
and
Recreation
programs
are
an
integral
part
of
our
city.
They
build
healthy,
active
communities
and
contribute
to
the
economic
and
environmental
well-being
of
our
city
and
our
residents.
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A
Our
City's
Parkinson's
Recreation
areas
and
programs
provide
a
place
for
all
people
to
connect
with
nature
and
with
one
another
I'm
happy
to
recognize
July
as
Parker's
Recreation
month
and
encourage
all
of
you,
our
residents,
businesses
and
visitors,
to
enjoy
our
parks
and
take
full
advantage
of
the
many
recreational
opportunities
that
our
city
has
to
offer.
Thank
you.
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Yes,
so
so
midpen
is
has
a
has
a
very
clear
and
wonderful
Mission
and
it
is
to
acquire
open
space
to
restore
the
environment
and
to
provide
ecologically
sensitive,
Public
Access
and
on
the
coast
that
we
added
a
fourth
one,
which
is
to
preserve
local
agriculture
next
slide,
and
this
is
a
snapshot,
a
map
of
our
lands.
The
dark
green
represents
the
lands
that
we
own
on
the
Public's
behalf
the
what's
not
on.
There
is
Cloverdale.
F
It's
our
newest
acquisition,
it's
six
thousand
acres
on
the
San
Mateo
Coast
excite,
and
this
gives
you
just
an
idea
of
who
we
are.
We
were
we're
a
public
agency,
a
special
district
created
in
1972
by
popular
votes,
70,
000,
Acres,
250,
50
miles
and
seven
of
us
elected
elected
officials
next
slide-
and
this
is
just
going
to
be
some
beautiful
pictures
of
three
of
our
SLA-
our
preserves,
which
I
hope
that
you
all
enjoy
every
every
every
regularly.
F
This
is
Fremont
Older,
Open,
Space,
Preserve
next
slide,
picadi
Ranch,
Open,
Space
Preserve
and
next
Slide,
the
Rancho
San
Antonio
Open
Space
Preserve,
and
this
is
by
far
our
most
popular
preserve.
It's
a
fourth,
it's
a
four
thousand
acres
and,
of
course,
very
close
to
the
urban
areas,
including
Cupertino.
F
Okay,
next
slide,
yes
and
I
wanted
to
spend
most
of
our
time.
My
time
on
the
project
updates.
Okay,
next
slide
and
the
first
one
has
to
do
with
this
Ranch
of
San
Antonio.
It's
the
multimodo
access
improvements.
So
the
goal
of
this
project
is
to
invite
as
many
people
as
possible
to
enjoy
the
parks
but
with
with
minimum
parking
and
and
traffic
impact.
F
F
And
so
this
is
it:
we
have
a
program
which
is
four-pronged,
I,
guess
the
most
important
one.
The
one
you
see
probably
every
day
is
the
vegetation
management
and
just
vegetation
reduction,
but
in
balance
with
our
about
the
nature,
the
the
health
of
our
ecosystem
and
then
there's
a
prescribed
fire
program
which
we
have
have
now
actually
started
yet,
but
we
hope
to
very
soon
there's
a
a
plant
preserved
by
preserve
planning
process
and,
finally,
monitoring.
F
G
Yeah,
just
just
like
to
invite
everybody,
you
know
council,
members,
staff
and
and
residents
to
come
out
to
the
preserves
and-
and
you
know,
find
the
experiences
that
you
like
to
find
out
there
and
also
we
we
like
to
hear
from
the
public.
You
can
do
it
online.
You
can
come
to
our
our
meetings
at
our
headquarters
in
Los
Altos,
and
it
really
helps
us
to
hear
from
the
public
about
what
you
would
like
to
see
what
you
like.
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A
H
F
F
Oh,
there
was
a
bomb
measure.
There
was
a
bond
measure
that
was
approved
by
the
public
measure,
a
a
and
and
2014.
that
was
a
300
million
dollar
Bond
measure
plan
to
be
spent
over
30
years
and
so
we're
about
10
years
into
it.
And
that
is
the
bond
measure
that
has
funded
you
know:
amanam,
the
opening
of
Bear
Creek
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
new
preserves
which
which
that
Bond
measure
has
so.
H
F
A
A
Thank
you
for
having
us,
okay,
so
we're
gonna,
move
to
postponement
and
Order
of
the
day
which
number
five,
the
recommend
brush
abatement
for
public
nuisance
and
potential
fire
hazard
pursuant
to
Cupertino
municipal
code
and
regarding
defensible
space
and
resolution
number
23-053.
The
recommended
action
is
to
remove
this
item
from
future
agenda,
since
there
are
no
properties
reported
as
being
non-compliant
in
removing
brush.
Congratulations
to
Cupertino,
so
may
I
have.
Is
there
any
staff
report
on
this
may
I.
C
Have
I
can
just
give
you
a
quick
update
is
that
the
bride
should
separate,
then
the
weed
abatement
program
and
it's
for
Hillside
properties,
mainly
Parcels,
are
are
responsible
for
clearing
brush,
that's
combustible
and
flammable,
and,
as
you
noted,
tonight's
hearing
was
set
by
Council
in
case
that
there
were
considerations
for
Parcels
that
were
on
the
list
and
they
were
objecting
to
it.
But
in
this
case
Cupertino
has
zero
properties,
they're
non-compliant.
A
A
You
now
we're
moving
to
Aura
Communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
Council
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
council,
but
not
on
the
agenda
for
discussion,
including
information
items
and
today
also
including
a
midpan
peninsula's
report.
So
do
we
have
any
cards.
J
B
K
Mayor
way
and
the
council-
it's
great
to
be
here
before
you
I'm
very
honored-
to
have
the
chance
to
speak
I'm
here
about
Parks
and
Rec
a
month
and
I'm
here
about
Trails.
So
it's
a
good
day.
I
I,
just
I,
want
to
make
sure
you
caught
what
Eureka
said,
which
is
they
are
in
a
supporting
role.
They
will
help
the
city
meet
its
goals,
but
the
city
needs
to
take
the
initiatives.
If
you
want
to
have
trails
and
other
recreational
facilities.
K
As
she
discussed
with
Trails
continuing
from
in
this
particular
case,
northward
or
Southward
of
Linda
Vista
Park
I'm
in
favor
of
that,
as
you
probably
know,
you
know,
we
have
a
diversity
of
residents
and
I
think
we
need
a
diversity
of
diversions
to
go
along
with
it.
And
that
means
things
like
trails
and
golf
and
softball
and
pick
a
pickleball
and
tennis
and
cycling
and
all
those
other
things
that
are
becoming
coming
before
you
residents
need
the
diversity,
especially
because
now
you're,
adding
housing,
we'll
have
more
residents
and
they
need
more
Recreation.
K
So
I'm
urging
you
to
make
strides
in
areas
of
recreation
for
our
city,
the
I
want
to
congratulate
you
on
doing
the
Ragnar
Trail
and
the
Linda
Vista
Trail,
which
I
think
have
added
to
our
our
facilities
for
residents
and
given
them
more
things
to
do
and
getting
out
of
the
house
and
getting
some
exercise
and
getting
healthy.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
can
do
more
I.
Think
I
I
urge
you
to
work
with
with
landowners
with
mid
pen
with
the
county
of
Santa
Clara
and
with
our
residents
to
bring
more
trails.
K
In
particular,
you've
got
two
residents
that
are
anxious
to
work
with
you
to
to
give
you
some
land
to
put
Trails
on,
but
of
course
they
need
something
too,
so
that'll
take
a
little
give
and
take.
But
anyway,
thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
for
your
support
of
recreation
in
the
city
of
Cupertino
and
I'm,
hoping
that
you
can
take
more
initiatives
going
forward
thanks
very
much.
L
Hello
city,
council,
hello,
mayor
B,
I,
would
like
to
Echo
very
well
spoken
comments
of
our
former
mayor
Richard
lovinthal
I
would
encourage
you
to
please
think
big,
think
long
term.
Think
about
your
Legacy.
Trails
are
a
lasting
Legacy
that
you
leave
behind.
I
would
love
to
see
support
for
more
Trails
I
had
the
opportunity
to
walk
the
regulatory
Trail
for
the
fireworks
parking
quite
a
distance
away
and
walking.
L
The
trail
I
saw
hundreds
of
restaurants
taking
the
trail
for
the
firework
celebrations,
and
that
was
something
unique
and
new
that
we
did
not
have
last
year
so
excellent
new
addition
to
the
city
that
is
a
permanent,
lasting
Legacy
and
encourage
you
to
think
big
and
continue
to
do
the
same.
I
would
also
I
would
also
like
to
see
more
opportunities
for
trails
in
the
current
body
area.
L
I
hope,
as
you
look
at
lands
that
the
city
can
acquire
both
from
the
Quarry,
as
well
as,
as
has
been
suggested
before,
working
with
the
county
to
acquire
the
Montebello.
The
Montebello
Elementary
I
believe
there
are
opportunities
to
partner
with
the
county
and
extend
open,
Park
lines
and
open
County
area
and
would
love
to
see
more
trails
and
more
ways
to
to
walk
through
the
city.
L
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
has
been
done
on
biking
and
bike
Lanes,
but
would
like
to
see
equal
amount
of
effort
spent
on
Trails,
which
is
enjoyed
by
all
members
of
the
public.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
did
want
to
talk
briefly
about
the
July
4th
celebrations.
It
was
very
disappointing
for
families
with
young
kids
to
see
a
lack
of
entertainment
for
young
kids
at
the
July
4th
event
in
comparison
to
previous
years
has
has
been
spoken
about
before
there
was
no
bouncy
houses.
L
There
was
no
activities
for
kids
such
as
games
and
face
painting,
and
a
number
of
great
events
that
Parks
and
Rec
would
normally
put
up.
That
was
completely
absent.
So
if
you
showed
up
at
the
Memorial
Park,
there
was
the
concert
at
9
30
there
was
flag
hosting
and
then
there
was
nothing
for
the
young
kids,
which
is
very,
very
disappointing.
So
a
number
of
young
families
come
by
and
leave
seeing
nothing
to
do.
I
was
also
surprised
by
the
absence
of
flags
around
the
city.
L
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
an
outreach
program
in
future
to
encourage
local
businesses
to
hoist
our
flag
and
to
hoist
our
flag
at
all
City
buildings.
I
would
love
to
see
the
flag
at
the
Blackberry
Farm
golf
course
at
the
Cupertino
Sports
Center,
even
in
front
of
the
clinical
building
I
would
love
to
see
a
lot
more
presence
of
flags
at
City
facilities,
as
well
as
City
encouraged
Outreach
to
various
businesses.
I
was
surprised.
L
A
You
Mada
city
clerk,
I'm,
closing
the
oral
communication
period
and
also
thanked
for
the
public
comments.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
speak
to
council
all
right,
I'm
going
to
move
to
consent,
calendar
6-12.
Do
we
have
any
constant
kind
of
being
pulled?
No
mayway?
Okay.
If
do
we
have
council
members
who
want
to
pull
consent
calendar?
A
A
E
E
So
before
the
council
today
is
a
is
an
item
considering
amendments
to
the
the
lobby,
the
lobbyist
registration
ordinance,
which
is
currently
codified
as
Municipal
Code
chapter
2.100..
There
are
both
clean
and
black
line
versions
of
the
proposed
ordinance
amendments
in
your
agenda
packet
there's
also
a
desk
item
that
was
provided
earlier
today
addressing
council
member
questions.
E
The
ordinance
was
adopted
by
Council
in
February
2021
and
has
been
been
implemented
by
the
clerk's
office
in
he's,
subject
to
certain
exceptions.
The
ordinance
requires
organizations
or
individuals
who
conduct
lobbying
activities,
as
is
defined
in
the
ordinance
to
register
and
comply
with
specified
disclosure
requirements.
E
lwbcs,
the
League
of
Women
Voters
was
granted
leave
to
file
an
amended
complaint.
Despite
the
city's
success
in
the
litigation.
There
are
some
issues
with
the
ordinance
that
need
to
be
cleaned
up
and
clarified,
and
so
the
the
city
attorney's
office
did
look
at
revisions
of
to
the
ordinance
they
did
ask
for
input
from
League
of
Women
Voters
on
those
revisions,
and
the
the
ordinance
presented
to
today
is
the
city
attorney's
office
recommendation
for
proposed
revisions
and
we'll
walk
through
those.
E
Now
these
are
the
highlights
of
the
the
changes
that
are
shown
in
in
the
red
line,
black
line
in
your
agenda
packet.
The
staff
report
also
lists
these
changes.
The
revisions
are
emphasized
that
the
ordinance
regulates
paid
law
being
directed
at
public
officials
as
opposed
to
unpaid
advocacy
and
Communications
directed
at
the
general
public.
E
E
E
E
Section
2.100-100
replaces
quarterly
reporting
requirements
with
semi-annual
reporting
requirements.
This
is
consistent
with
the
Santa
Clara
ordinance,
on
which
this
this
ordinance
is
largely
based
and
would
reduce
the
burden
of
administrating,
the
ordinance
on
the
city,
clerk's
office
and
then
section
2.100
is
revised
to
add
a
willfulness
or
knowledge
requirement
for
violations
of
the
ordinance.
E
Section
2.150
is
revised
to
add
a
reference
to
administrative
enforcement,
to
clarify
that
that
that
that
that
that
that
is,
an
additional
mechanism
for
enforcing
the
ordinance
and
then
section
2.100
170
deletes
practice
restrictions
which
would
be
which,
in
the
current
ordinance
imposed
of
one-year
practice
restrictions
on
individuals
or
entities
that
have
found
to
violate
the
ordinance.
Because
this
provision
is,
you
know,
would
be
a
total
ban
on
advocacy
and
and
petitioning
public
officials
during
that
period,
and
so
that
raises
more
significant
constitutional
issues.
E
There
are
a
couple
sections
in
the
or
in
the
ordinance
where
the
we
are
asking
Council
to
choose
between
two
different
options
and
give
direction
to
staff
on
which
options
they
prefer.
One
is
in
section
2.1
of
30.,
where
the
option
A
would
be
to
retain
that.
One
thousand
dollar
threshold
compensation
for
registration
as
a
contract
lobbyist
option
b
would
be
to
increase
that
threshold
to
five
thousand
dollars.
E
E
A
H
H
E
The
recommendation
does
not
recommended
action
does
not
make
that
distinction.
There
are
two
reasons
for
that.
One
is
for
clarity,
and
two
is
is
really
to
to
Future
proof
the
ordinance.
As
you
know,
first,
amendment
jurisdiction
for
jurisprudence
is
definitely
evolving
in
a
direction
of
of
greater
First,
Amendment
protections
for
political
speech
and
and
and
while
I
think
that
there
are
there.
There
is
current
case
law
that
certainly
supports
regulating
speech
by
nonprofits
in
certain
contexts,
at
least,
if
there's
not
for
compensation.
H
E
H
C
H
B
H
E
A
N
N
The
ordinance
proposed
definition
of
compensation
includes
reimbursement
of
travel
expenses.
Neighborhood
organizations
that
are
volunteer
based
could
fall
within
the
definition
of
organization
lobbyists.
If
the
organization
reimbursed
travel
expenses
in
excess
of
a
thousand
dollars
by
setting
the
Threshold
at
five
thousand,
the
council
avoids
the
inadvertent
characterization
of
unpaid
volunteers
and
their
organizations
as
lobbyists.
The
state
of
California
uses
a
five
thousand
dollar
threshold.
Largely
for
this
reason,
and
the
league
recommends
the
city
follow
the
same
approach
in
2.100.80,
we
recommend
that
only
paid
lobbyists
pay
registration
fees.
N
The
city
proposes
to
charge
a
fee
to
every
lobbyist,
regardless
of
whether
that
person
is
a
paid
lobbyist
or
a
volunteer.
Neighborhood
activist.
The
lead
recommends
that
only
paid
for-profit
lobbyists
be
required
to
pay
a
fee
each
year
to
register
as
lobbyists
in
section
2.100.90
the
regulation
of
campaign
contributions.
We
recommend
that
this
should
be
left
to
the
state
campaign.
Finance
is
a
matter
matter
already
comprehensively
enforced
by
the
state
of
California.
Therefore
proposed
subsections
D
through
H
should
be
eliminated.
N
If
the
city
is
intent
on
campaign
Finance
regulations
to
the
city
code,
the
regulation
of
campaign
contributions
should
reach
all
those
who
deal
with
the
city,
not
just
lobbyists.
Therefore,
if
the
city
does
propose
restrictions,
they
should
place
it
elsewhere
in
the
CMC
to
do
the
most
good
for
the
city
and
last
in
section
2.100.130
dealing
with
the
violations
of
the
lobbying
ordinance,
the
C.
This
league
supports
option
b.
N
The
proposed
revisions
expressly
add
into
the
municipal
ordinance
the
state
law
prohibitions
on
lobbying,
making
this
conduct
a
violation
of
both
the
municipal
code
and
California
state
law.
By
making
these
unlawful
activities
the
subject
of
a
municipal
ordinance,
the
City
opens
the
door
to
the
district
attorney
declining
to
prosecute
these
actions
because
they
are
also
a
city
obligation.
The
league
therefore
supports
option
b
in
order
to
place
in
the
enforcement
obligation
where
it
is
best
administered
the
district
attorney,
not
the
City
attorney.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
also
for
your
your
written
comments
in
advance
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
if
we
were
to
adopt
the
League's
recommendations
today
with
regard
to
option
b
as
pertaining
to
both
section
I
think
it
ends
zero.
Three
zero
and
section
ending
one:
three:
zero.
Would
that
satisfy
your
concerns
with
regard
to
the
section
ending
zero,
eight.
O
N
P
Hello
and
thank
you
for
the
time
this
evening,
I'm
just
here,
to
support
the
League
of
Women
Voters
and
their
analysis
of
the
lobbyist,
ordinance
I.
Think
it's
really
important
for
me,
as
a
private
citizen,
a
long
time
resident
and
a
mom
and
a
volunteer
on
in
many
different
organizations
to
not
have
to
pay
fees
or
to
have
my
my
speech
or
my
organization's
speech,
inhibited
by
by
onerous
lobbyist.
B
P
Q
Q
Secondly,
on
2.100.080
registration
fees,
only
contract
lobbyists
should
be
required
to
pay
the
registration
fees
and
third
on
2.100.090
campaign
contributions
should
ordinance
should
not
be
limited
to
lobbyists
alone.
Campaign
contributions
should
be
separately
regulated.
Therefore,
the
proposed
restrictions
should
be
placed
elsewhere
in
the.
Q
Q
The
proposed
revision
expressly
repeats
state
law
prohibitions
on
lobbying
onto
our
Municipal
ordinance,
so
this
would
make
a
this
conduct
a
violation
of
both
the
municipal
code
as
well
as
California
law.
Therefore,
I
support
option
b
in
order
to
clearly
place
the
enforcement
obligation
where
it
is
best
administered
the
district
attorney
and
not
our
City
attorney.
C
R
Hi
I
greatly
appreciate
Cupertino
city
staff
for
their
great
work
and
all
their
help
when
the
proposed
revisions
to
the
lobbying
ordinance.
However,
I
strongly
agree
with
all
the
points
that
the
league
of
women's
voters
have
presented
tonight.
I
feel
that
freedom
of
speech
is
incredibly
important
and
people
shouldn't
be
intimidated
when
voicing
their
opinions
and
advocating
for
an
issue
important
to
them
by
being
called
a
lobbyist
and
having
to
pick,
except
if
they
are
a
paid
contract
lobbyist
making
over
five
thousand
dollars.
So
I
really
do
hope.
R
C
S
S
I
support
both
options,
B
for
both
the
question
of
the
threshold
and
also
violations
of
the
ordinance
or
who
should
deal
with
violations
in
the
ordinance,
as
well
as
ensuring
that
we
are
focusing
on
paid
lobbyists
rather
than
unpaid
lobbyists,
and
also
I,
do
believe
as
well
that
the
da
should
be
the
one
who's
foreseen
who
is
in
charge
of
the
oversight
rather
than
a
City
attorney,
and
that
I
will
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you.
C
T
Good
evening,
mayor
Wade
and
City
Council
Members
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
tonight
as
a
long
time,
Community
volunteer
I
was
very
concerned
about
the
lobbyist
ordinance
that
was
put
in
place
by
the
previous
Council.
It
seemed
particularly
targeted
for
its
Community
organizations
and
non-profits
that
spend
their
time
and
volunteer
efforts
improving
our
community.
T
T
I
appreciate
the
recommended
changes
proposed
by
our
City
attorney
I
agree
that
the
additional
changes
recommended
by
the
legal
Women
Voters
are
also
necessary.
I
particularly
request
that
the
requirement
to
pay
lobbying
fees
by
non-paid
organization
volunteers
be
eliminated.
This
is
the
section
2.100.080.
T
Residents
who
ask
for
changes
in
their
Community
are
not
lobbyists.
Community
organizations
and
non-profits
are
beneficial
for
Cupertino
and
should
be
encouraged.
I
asked
tonight
that
you
acknowledge
these
truths
and
make
the
necessary
changes
to
this
organization.
Excuse
me
this
ordinance,
so
that
we
as
a
community
and
City
can
work
together
for
a
positive
future.
C
U
I
haven't
heard
anyone
else
complain
about
the
ordinance
and
I
do
have
a
question
and
please
don't
take
it
with
a
fence,
but
whether
it's
appropriate
for
the
mayor
to
vote
on
this
issue
because
of
her
previous
position
with
the
league
and
her
affiliation
as
a
member
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
okay
and
please
don't
take
offense
to
that
I'm.
U
Just
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
on
on
in
the
options
to
revise
the
definition
of
a
lobbyist,
I
would
like
to
have
the
compensation
threshold
lower
than
5
000
for
both
contract
and
organizational
lobbyists.
For
any
consecutive
three
months,
our
City's,
smaller
and
distribution
costs,
for
instance,
for
targeted,
influential
mailers
are
going
to
be
smaller
than
for
cities
like
San
Jose
I.
C
V
We
all
benefit
from
their
commitment
to
open
government.
The
Cupertino
Chamber
of
Commerce
strongly
supports
the
changes
proposed
by
the
city
staff
and
the
city
attorney's
office.
In
addition
to
the
four
changes
recommended
by
the
League
of
Women
Voters,
the
League's
recommendation
recommendations
add
the
Essential
Elements
of
sim
Simplicity,
equitability
and
enforceability.
V
The
Cupertino
Chamber
of
Commerce
encourages
the
city
council
to
give
these
staff
recommendations
and
the
poor
recommendations
from
the
league,
their
most
serious
consideration
and
hopes.
The
council
will
adopt
these
changes
to
further
strengthen
the
quality
of
government
and
the
quality
of
public
discourse
in
our
community.
In
fact,
good
government
and
good
public
discourse
are
two
different
ways
to
say
the
very
same
thing.
C
W
Okay,
respected
mayor
wave
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
council
members.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I'm
a
commissioner
with
the
city's
Planning
Commission,
but
today,
I'm
speaking
only
as
myself,
I'm,
also
speaking
as
the
chair
of
walk
by
Cupertino,
a
resident-led
volunteer
group,
a
rotarian,
NSC,
Russell,
School
parent.
Among
many
hats,
that
I
wear
resident
engagement
and
participation
is
the
Bedrock
of
our
democracy.
W
W
It
gives
our
ordinary
residents
a
voice
in
the
governance
of
our
city
and
it
should
not
and
cannot
be
restricted
or
removed
in
any
way.
It
is,
in
fact,
the
role
of
the
council
to
protect
the
right
of
ordinary
residents
to
speak
their
minds
and
advocate
for
their
needs
to
the
city,
to
the
staff.
The
commissions
and
the
council.
Walk
by
Cupertino
concurs
with
all
the
points
made
today
so
eloquently
by
Tracy
Edwards,
with
the
League
of
Women.
Voters
I
also
want
to
emphasize
that
this
discussion
is
not
about
appeasing
the
League
of
Women
Voters.
W
It's
about
protecting
the
fundamental
right
to
free
speech
of
our
residents.
Setting
the
Threshold
at
5000
for
the
option
b
will
help
ensure
that
Resident,
Advocates,
unpaid
volunteers
and
resident-led
organizations
don't
get
classified
as
lobbyists
and
penalized
for
their
involvement
in
their
community.
W
W
Campaign
contributions
is
a
separate
matter
that
requires
a
lot
more
detailed
consideration
and
it
should
be
dealt
with
outside
of
this
lobbyist
ordinance
and
finally,
including
state
law.
Prohibitions
in
our
Municipal
Code
just
complicates
things
unnecessarily.
The
city
ordinance
enforcement
should
limit
itself
to
matters
that
are
not
already
under
the
purview
of
the
district
attorney
so
as
to
maintain
clear
roles
and
responsibilities.
C
X
Hello,
my
name
is
Gory
I
am
a
rising
senior
at
Cupertino,
High
School
and
a
resident
in
Cupertino
I
would
like
to
support
the
League
of
Women
Voters
and
therefore
suggestions
to
the
lobbyist,
ordinances
and
I
agree
with
all
four
points
that
they
have
made
tonight.
I
think
it
is
important
that
setting
the
threshold
to
set
the
threshold
to
five
thousand
dollars
and
to
require
that
only
paid
contract
lobbyists
are
required
to
pay
a
fee
each
year.
X
I
would
also
like
to
point
out
that
it's
important
to
broaden
the
regulations
for
the
proposed
restrictions
and
that
they
should
be
placed
and
elsewhere
and
brought
into
the
best
for
the
city
of
ubertino
I
would
like
to
thank
the
League
of
Women
Voters
once
again
for
their
work
and
support.
Therefore,
recommendation.
Thank
you
for
this
to
the
city
council,
the
City
attorney
the
city
manager
and
the
city
staff
for
your
hard
work
in
putting
together
your
suggestions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
L
I
know
we
reviewed
upcoming
work
items
I
asked
that
because
the
residents
have
been
asking
for
this,
this
light
ordinance
and
that
has
not
been
on
the
agenda
and
there
have
been
other
items
that
residents
have
asked
for
that
were
pushed
out
to
December,
and
yet
we
have
this
item
on
the
agenda
without
prior
resident
feedback
asking
for
this
item
to
be
placed
on
the
agenda
or
any
council
members
having
identified
this.
Secondly,
I
would
like
to
request
that
any
council
members
that
have
a
present
or
past
affiliation
with
the
League
of
Women
Voters.
L
Please
declare
that
and
see
if
you
might
consider
accusing
yourself
from
any
participation
in
this
in
this
world.
Finally,
I
would
like
to
ask
that
the
change
be
considered
as
unnecessary.
There
has
been
no
concerns
that
have
been
raised
in
past
councils
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
is
a
fairly
large
sum
or
a
organization
that
would
allow
for
a
number
of
lobbying
participants
to
be
able
to
accept
on
behalf
of
any
organization,
so
I
believe
the
current
limit
is
sufficient.
L
I
believe
this
item
ideally
should
not
have
been
on
the
agenda,
given
the
priority
of
so
many
other
items
that
residents
have
requested
and
I
would
request
council
members
to
kindly
declare
your
present
and
past
affiliation
with
the
League
of
Women
Voters
and
consider
in
the
spirit
of
good
governance,
which
you
advocate
for
whether
you
should
recuse
yourself
from
this
debate
and
quote.
Thank
you.
Y
Who
do
you
think,
council
members
I,
would
concur
with
previous
speakers
who
asked
that
council
members
who
have
had
a
had
or
have
a
close
association
with
the
lead,
reduce
recuse
themselves
this
evening
and
I've
submitted
written
comments?
I
hope
that
you
take
a
look
at
them,
namely
we
should
keep
the
one
thousand
dollar
limit.
Y
Y
The
thing
that
really
concerns
me
about
this
is
the
timing
and
how
it
is
inconsistent
with
good
governance.
Cenar
alluded
to
that
this
evening.
How
did
this
get
on
the
agenda?
You
know
our
previous
city
council,
including
our
currents
to
the
attorney,
worked
on
this
ordinance
for
a
very
long
time.
There
was
a
lot
of
deliberation
and
the
legal
win
voters
was
nowhere
to
be
found.
Y
Y
Y
You
can
see
all
the
paperwork
which
should
have
been
included,
in
my
opinion,
in
the
in
the
agenda
that
the
city
has
given
the
League
of
Women
Women
Voters
more
time
to
respond
on
a
lawsuit
which
they
shouldn't
have
filed
in
the
first
place,
but
the
lawsuit
was
to
be
dismissed
so
allow
it
to
be
completely
dismissed
and
don't
make
any
decisions
under
these
failed
threats
by
the
League
of
Women
Voters.
It's
the
Optics
just
are
not
good
here.
Y
A
Thank
you,
Mada
city
clerk,
I'm,
going
to
close
the
public
comment
for
this
item
and
bring
it
back
to
council
for
discussion.
So
I'd
like
to
thank
all
the
comments
that
made
in
the
public
comment.
We
appreciate
your
input
so
I'm
bringing
back
to
council
for
discussion
for
five
minutes
each
and
do
I
have
a
light.
D
E
D
A
member
of
the
public
or
I
didn't
see
a
single
member
from
the
League
of
Women
Voters
that
apparently
needed
to
register
or
did
register
so
in
what
Circle,
under
what
Circumstance
the
way
it's
written
now.
Would
someone
need
to
do
that
because,
apparently
and
I
just
want
to
make
this
clear
that
members
of
the
public
are
able
to
come
and
and
speak
to
the
the
council
without
needing
to
register
yeah.
E
D
And
and
I
had
wondered
with
regards
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
because
they
have
advocated
for
certain
positions
on
on
bills.
I
have
wondered
if
they
needed
to
register
as
a
lobbyist,
but
they
did
not
so
I'm
going
to
assume
that
the
way
our
lobbying
ordinance
is
written
currently
that
they
did
not
need
to
to
register.
Would
that
be
correct?.
E
So
then
that
I
don't
I,
don't
know
I
mean
there
are
certain
Provisions
in
there
are
certain
thresholds
that
you
have
to
meet
in
the
current
ordinance
to
be
required
to
register
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
with
that
I'd
speak
to
that.
I
would
say
that
they
they
would
be
exempt
under
the
proposed
revisions.
B
E
So
yeah,
so
it
would
be
unusual
generally,
you
know,
you
know,
you
know
all
violations
at
the
municipal
code
can
be
enforced
criminally.
What
happens
much
much
more
frequently
is
is
that
they
are
that
municipal
code
violations
are
enforced
administratively.
The
revisions
make
make
it
clear
because
I
think
the
current
ordinance
is
ambiguous
as
to
whether
you
know
administrative
enforcement
is,
is
is
available
here,
so
so
I
actually
think.
E
That's
probably
the
more
significant
revision
is
that
that
it
does
make
it
clear
that
there's
citation
Authority
and
if
the
city
were
to
to
enforce
the
ordinance.
You
know
that
would
be
the
authority
that
we'd
most
likely
rely
on
I.
Think
it's
probably
been
a
very
long
time
since
the
Cupertino
city
attorney's
office
has
brought
a
criminal
prosecution.
H
E
H
E
Yeah
yeah
generally
generally
uncompensated
Lobby
that
lobbying
that's
not
compensated.
Beyond
reimbursement
for
expenses
would
be
exempt
under
both
the
current
ordinance
and
the
revised
ordinance.
The
revised
ordinance
I
think
makes
that
much
clearer
and
and
eliminates
some
internal
inconsistencies
where.
H
R
E
B
H
M
M
So,
in
general,
my
if
the
state
law
has
already
codified
it,
there
is
no
need,
in
my
opinion,
to
include
it
in
the
Cupertino
Municipal
Court.
It
would
be
duplicative,
it
would
be
unnecessary
and
it
could
lead
to
confusion
the
material
that
the
City
attorney
has
provided.
Clearly
states
states
that
the
that
a
paid
lobbyist
needs
to
be
needs
to
register,
which
makes
it
very
simple.
So
there's
if
you're
not
paid,
you
don't
register.
M
If
you
get
paid,
you
register
what
else
the
option
b,
the
threshold
compensation
for
registration,
the
current
law
says
a
thousand
dollars.
We
we
have
the
option
of
increasing
it
to
five
thousand
now.
Are
these
numbers
arbitrary?
Why
not
two
thousand,
why
not
three
thousand
but
there's
a
reason
for
option
b
and
the
five
thousand,
because
it
is
in
the
state
law,
so
why?
M
Why
have
a
separate
parameter
for
ourselves
when,
when
the
state
law
is
very
clear
that
it's
five
thousand
dollars
for
whatever
three
month
period
and
and
so
at
least
in
the
future,
we
would
be
consistent
with
what
the
state
is
saying
with
us,
the
quarterly
reporting
I
it
makes
sense
to
do
a
semi-annual
just
because
there's
so
little
activity,
I
I
looked
at
the
the
list
of
paid
lobbies.
There
are
six
six
of
them
and
I
think
that
number
stayed
consistent
for
for
a
long
time.
M
M
What
else
I
think?
That's
probably
it
for
now?
Oh
the
the
reporting
of
the
the
contributions
we
already
have
it,
and,
and
believe
me,
those
of
us
who
campaigned
recently
had
tons
and
tons
of
paperwork
to
do
about
campaign
contributions.
So
if
it's
already
available,
if
it's
already
on
record,
it's
a
public
document,
it's
easily
available
to
anyone
who
wants
to
know.
Why
are
we
duplicating
it
by
having
a
separate
accounting
of
contributions
by
by
the
lobbyist?
It's
available,
it's
no
one's
trying
to
hide
anything
it's
there.
I
Yeah
before
I
I
continue
further
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
point
with
respect
to
who
put
together
the
ordinance
in
its
original
form,
I
think
there
was
one
member
of
the
public
who
commented
claiming
that
Hugh
Mr
City
attorney
were
involved
in
its
construction
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
accurate
I
think
you
inherited
this
ordinance.
Did
you
not.
D
E
D
The
tax
sharing
agreement,
City
finances
project
briefing
permits
other
matters
before
the
mayor
city,
council,
City
boards,
City
commissions,
other
matters
before
the
task
force
or
city
Associated,
joint
Powers,
Authority
other
matters
related
to
housing,
planning
and
revenue,
affordable
housing.
So
when
I
think
about
transparency
and
for
the
public
wanting
to
know
who's
contacting
the
city,
council
and
I,
look
at
all
of
these
listed
activities
that
this
particular
lobbyist
is
is
interested
in
doing.
That
is
definitely
something
that
I
would
want
the
public
to
have
access
to.
C
Q
H
Minute
and
40
seconds
and
another
concern
many
people
raised-
is
the
anyone
who
is
not
compensated.
Children
have
to
pay
to
for
the
registration,
so
under
the
current
ordinance,
my
understanding,
no
one
who
is
not
compensated.
Even
if
someone
is
compensated
by
travel
expenses
or
meals,
they
don't
have
to
register
anyone
who
register
is
actually
paid
right
under
the
current
one.
H
Yeah,
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
clarify
that,
so
it's
just
the
language,
it's
not
clear,
but
then
I
want
the
public
to
know
that
under
the
current
ordinance,
no
one
who
is
now
compensated
beyond
their
travel
expenses
or
would
ever
have
to
even
register
or
pay
any
registration
that
needs
to
be
clarified.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
E
A
H
So,
regarding
the
campaign,
contribution
I
under
the
language
in
the
ordinance
is
referring
to
also
intermediary
contribution.
So
I'm
curious,
whether
this
is
a
standard
section.
That's
included
in
other
lobbying
ordinance
like
Santa
Clara,
San
Jose,
which
is
why
it
was
included,
and
then
your
proposal
was
to
retain
this
section.
E
H
H
Because,
okay
yeah
thank
you
and
also
for
disclosure.
I
am
a
member
of
the
League
of
Women
vouchers
of
Southwest
Santa
Clara
Valley,
which
include
the
Santa
Clara
Los,
Gatos,
Kimball
and
Saratoga
and
I
am
proud
to
be
a
member
of
That
League
since
2017
I.
Think
and
I
am
especially
proud
that
our
league,
the
leaders,
are
very
careful
to
not
use
their
official
title
when
attending
a
new
city
council
meeting
on
to
not
influence
local
politics.
Our
mission
is
to
educate
the
public
on
how
to
best
involve
with
democracy
and
I.
H
A
E
So
I
mean
it's
hard
to
generalize,
because
there
were
a
number
of
change,
clarifying
changes
that
were
made,
but
just
take
an
example,
there
were
some
inconsistencies
between
the
definitions
and
the
exemptions.
So
that's
that's.
Some
things
that
were
exempt
were
not
actually
ever
covered
by
the
definition
of
lobbyist,
so
so
it
it
was
just
just
a
logical
flaw
in
the
current
ordinance
that
needed
to
be
corrected.
There
are
other
areas
where
it's
just
the
language
is,
is
unclear
and
we're
trying
to
make
it
clearer.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
to
the
city
clerk
and,
if
you
do
scroll
down
through
the
application
you'll
get
to
the
reporting
part
where
the
there
will
be
an
indication
of
the
contacts
that
were
made.
So
when
this
ordinance
was
passed,
it
was
February,
2021,
I
believe,
and
there
was
no
dispute
that
happened
from
the
League
of
Women
Voters
regarding
this
and
instead
a
lawsuit
was
filed
sometime
around
July
of
of
2022.
D
But
it's
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
Were
you
ever
contacted
by
the
League
of
Women
Voters
before
the
lawsuit
was
filed
with
any
suggestions
for
edits
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
we've
we've
now
spent
over
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
on
outside
attorney
fees,
and
that
is
not
including
the
INT
in
your
work
in
the
city
attorney's
office.
So
were
you
contacted?
D
No
I
was
not
okay,
and
so
this
seems
a
little
bit
backwards.
Also,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
don't
have
a
single
member
of
the
League
of
Women
Voters,
who
apparently
needed
to
register
as
a
lobbyist
or
did
register
as
a
lobbyist
in
all
this
time.
So
apparently
they
they,
even
though
they
take
issue
with
the
lobbying
ordinance.
They
were
apparently
not
even
subject
to
it.
Does
that
sound
about
right.
H
H
H
E
T
H
But
then
they
can
easily
email,
the
city
council
and
if
they
have
any
concern
about
the
ordinance
in
the
council
can
reach
out
to
the
City
attorney
to
clarify.
Perhaps-
and
maybe
we
can
then
request
a
report
from
the
city
manager's
office-
to
put
on
a
council
meeting
to
clarify
any
misunderstanding.
Right.
Certainly.
A
Any
other
comments
from
the
council
for
to
have
an
so
so
I
I
like
to
make
some
comments.
I
do
believe
the
legal
Women
Voters
is
a
good
organization
to
be
a
member
of
both
councilmember
Charlie
and
I
are
a
member
of
the
league
and
they
do
really
good
things
and
I
believe
they're
they're
not
going
out
for
their
own
benefit,
I.
A
Think
they're
watching
out
for
every
citizen,
so
I
do
believe
that
what
they're
doing
right
now,
it's
not
just
because
they're
not
included
in
the
ordinance
that
they're
doing
this,
even
if
they
are
I,
don't
think
they're
doing
for
their
own
good.
That's
what
I
believe
in
the
league.
The
second
thing
is
I,
do
believe
the
clarification
of
the
original
lobbyist
ordinance
need
to
be
done.
A
There
are
good
reason
for
us
to
review
this
and
make
it
clear
so
that
we
protect
our
Public's
rights
to
speak
and
also
seek
out
the
real
lobbyists
who
are
lobbying
our
cities,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
it,
doesn't
matter
whether
the
leagues
members
are
not
being
included
in
original
ordinance.
They
are
doing
this
for
the
sake
of
the
public.
A
That's
how
I
observe
it,
and
the
second
is
I-
think
it
is
necessary
to
do
the
language
cleaning
and
it's
also
because
writing
to
council
may
not
resulting
actions.
So
we're
not
speculating
why
the
league
does
this,
but
we
are
facing
an
issue
that
we
need
to
work
right
now,
so
that
I
I
really
think
we're
not
speculating
the
motives,
but
I
do
believe.
The
motives
is
for
the
the
public
good.
Thank
you
so
remember,
frun
I
believe
you
have
plenty
of
time.
I
Thank
you
so
I
wanted
to
thank
everybody
who
came
out
to
speak
tonight,
especially
the
people
who
represent
Civil
Society
organizations,
I
think
and
I
hope
that
we
are
in
general
agreement
that
regulating
paid
lobbying
activities
of
for-profit
entities
is
appropriate
and
a
valuable
social
good.
But
I
equally
hope
that
chilling.
The
speech
of
individual
members
of
the
public
and
our
local
non-profits
is
undesirable
and,
as
with
every
public
policy,
there
is
a
correct
balance
that
we
have
to
strike
and
it's
our
job
as
Council
to
try
to
strike
that
balance.
I
I'm
not
of
the
opinion
that
our
existing
lobbyist
registration
ordinance
does
that,
especially
based
on
the
response
that
it
provoked
from
members
of
the
public
when
it
was
suggested
last
year
in
particular
that
we
add
from
the
status
a
private
right
of
action
to
the
ordinance.
That
is,
the
ability
of
members
of
the
public
to
sue
each
other,
claiming
that
somebody
is
an
unregistered
lobbyist
in
a
city
that
is
as
litigious
as
ours.
Unfortunately,
I
think
that
is
a
recipe
for
disaster
and
for
destroying
speech
in
general.
I
What
we
have
at
present
is
also
by
acknowledgment
of
the
City
attorney
and
others,
an
ordinance
that
has
been
sutured
together
from
other
ordinances
in
other
jurisdictions,
and
there
are
a
variety
of
pieces
of
statutory
detritus
that
sit
inside
of
it.
One
of
those,
for
example,
is
a
reference
to
Neighborhood
associations
that
reference
comes
from
the
city
of
San
Jose,
where
neighborhood
associations
are
an
actual
institution
and
the
reason
that
they
are
accepted
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
they
have
separate
reporting
obligations.
I
So
it's
no
wonder
that
many
in
the
public
would
be
confused
about
its
reach
or
choose
to
remain
silent
instead
of
participating.
So
now
that
it's
back
before
us,
we
have
the
chance
to
strike
a
better
balance
and
I
think
that
the
suggestions
that
the
league
has
put
forward
today
are
good
ones
and
I
intend
to
support
them.
Thank
you.
A
A
M
M
H
H
H
E
H
E
H
H
I'd
like
to
for
exemption
number
13,
which
states
actions
taken
by
a
non-profit
organization
or
its
officers
or
employees,
are
exempt
and
from
I'd
like
to
add
501c3
nonprofit,
so
it
aligns
with
the
other
lobbying
ordinance
because
any
donation
to
yes
501c3
is
transparent,
but
for
other
organizations
they
they
don't
have
to
disclose
their
donors.
Okay,.
A
D
When
we
have
an
ordinance
come
in
and
and
it's
approved,
and
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
time
passed,
it
would
be
my
preference
that
an
organization
individuals
would
come
to
the
city,
come
to
this
City
attorney
and
Council,
and
make
the
suggestions
and
and
make
the
case
for
why
that
ordinance
needs
to
be
changed
and
that
it's
brought
to
us
in
that
manner,
as
opposed
to
essentially
lawyering
up
and
suing
us,
which
is
what
happened
here
and
then
that
case
was
dismissed.
So
in
the
future.
H
H
A
I
I
H
H
E
H
A
A
H
H
H
M
H
A
H
H
A
I
I'm
happy
to
reread
it
that
the
ordinance
that
that
the
proposed
revisions
in
the
ordinance
be
re-enacted
with
the
following
modifications.
First,
that
section
2.100.030
be
modified
in
accordance
with
option
b,
as
presented
in
the
attachment
a
to
the
staff
report.
Second,
that
section
2.100.130
be
modified
in
accordance
with
option
b,
as
presented
in
attachment
a
to
the
staff
report
and
third,
the
proposed
subdivisions
D
through
H
inclusive
of
section.
A
X
D
Thank
you
there's
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
Where
did
you
find
the
the
five
thousand
dollars?
I
was
just
quickly
flipping
through
the
fppc
regarding
contract
lobbyist
and
I'm,
seeing
2
000.
That
might
perhaps
be
that
they've
updated
since
2019,
but
they're
showing
I'm
seeing
a
contract
lobbyist
as
an
individual
lobbies
for
someone
other
than
his
or
her
employer
and
receives,
or
is
entitled
to
receive
two
thousand
dollars
or
more
in
a
calendar
month
engaging
in
direct
communication
so
I
you,
you
are
probably
pulling
from
somewhere
else.
A
H
Okay
substitute
the
motion
to
rescind
the
lobbying
ordinance
because
there
was
the
entire
California.
We
have
like
how
many
million
of
people
the
the
limit
is
5
000
per
quarter
and
for
a
tiny
city
of
Cupertino,
the
Lim.
If
the
the
limit
were
five
thousand
per
three
months
period,
I
don't
think
anyone
would
ever
qualify
and
having
an
ordinance
that
has
no
effect
is
costing
City
staff
time
and
that
really
doesn't
make
sense.
I
proposed
we
just
rescind
the
ordinance.
A
A
So
it
so
if
I
can
make
a
friendly
Amendment,
since
we
just
found
out
that
the
state
law
is
five
thousand
per
quarter
with
councilman
vice
mayor
Mohan
and
councilmember
Froome,
except
to
follow
the
state
law
to
make
it
five
thousand
per
quarter.
Instead
of
five
thousand
per
three
months,
everything
else
Remains
the
Same
as
the
friendly
Amendment
and
the
motion.
B
A
A
I
A
H
A
I
guess
we
can
vote
on
it
and
then
clarify
it
later.
If
that's
I
I
was
a
little
confused.
That's
why
I
asked
that
question.
Does
reimbursement
for
traveling
included
in
the
1000
or
the
five
thousand
I
thought
I
got
an
answer
said
no,
but
then
I'm
not
sure
right
now,
because
the
league
seems
to
think
that's
included
in
the
reimbursement
is
included
in
the
1000
or
the
5000.
or
right
now.
The
amendment
is
five
thousand
per
quarter
instead
of
5000
per
three
months.
A
B
H
I,
my
question
was,
since
we
are
trying
to
justify
the
5
000
by
aligning
with
the
state
I'm
curious
for
the
state
five
thousand
per
quarter.
Does
that
include
the
travel
and
other
expenses
which
I
don't
know
our
current
ordinance
either
the
current
or
the
proposed
one.
The
money
amount
does
not
include
the
travel
expenses.
That's
my
understanding
is.
A
A
Okay,
so
now
we
do
have
a
Amendment
with
friendly
Amendment.
According
to
this
I
I,
it's
not
council.
Member
from
you,
your
light
just
went
up
okay,
so
the
current
motion
is
to
approve
the
staff
Report
with
the
friendly
Amendment
of
the
council,
member
Foon
and
another
friendly
amendment
by
me
and
with
the
five
thousand
dollar
per
quarter.
That
does
not
include
reimbursement
for
travel
meals
and
as
such.
A
C
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
see
internations,
and
you
can
get
back
to
that
question
to
us
if
you
know
later.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
we
are
moving
to
number
14..
Consider
actions
with
a
surplus,
determination
and
disposal
of
do.
We
have
the
address
correctly
one
zero,
three
zero
one
burn:
Avenue
assess
a
parcel
number.
O
O
O
With
approval
of
the
recommended
action,
the
staff
will
record
the
Platinum
they
go
with
the
county
and
that
will
set
the
legal
property
line
for
the
for
the
new
sized
property,
and
with
that
we
the
we
would
have
a
Remnant
property
that
would
be
Surplus
to
the
city
no
longer
needed,
and
that
would
be
the
property
that
the
single
family
residence
is
on.
The
image
on
the
on
the
screen
now
shows
the
area
in
red
that
would
be
dedicated
and
then
the
in
the
green
portion
would
be
the
remainder.
O
O
With
that
we
would
notify
appropriate
entities,
including
and
focus
on
housing.
The
state
is
focused
on
housing
uses
for
properties,
but
also
some
other
entities,
and
that
noticing
would
allow
for
60
days.
So
those
entities
could
determine
whether
they
would
have
an
interest
in
the
property.
If
they
do
have
an
interest,
then
they
would
express
that
to
the
city
and
we
would
negotiate
with
them
for
a
period
of
90
days
towards
a
conclusion
on
the
sale
of
the
property
for
their
interest
and
purpose.
O
O
O
So
with
that
tonight
the
recommended
day
action
is
to
authorize
the
roadway
dedication
to
declare
the
property
Surplus
and
notice
it
in
per
the
Surplus
Land
Act,
and
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
offer
to
offer
the
property
for
sale.
Should
we
have
no
interest
in
the
property,
and
that
concludes
a
report
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
O
This
one
came
forward
because
the
original
intent
and
direction
from
Council
was
to
purchase
this
property
in
order
to
acquire
the
right-of-way,
and
this
completes
that
process
and
so
per
prior
Council
Direction
continues
to
follow,
follow
along
in
the
process.
So
that's
why
we
brought
this
one
forward.
The
other
two
properties,
as
you
can
imagine,
will
take
a
little
bit
more
discussion
and
work
and
so
we'll
bring
those
forward
for
a
separate
discussion
through
the
work
program.
Okay,.
D
O
It
certainly
if
the
council
desires
to
have
a
real
estate
investment
policy.
That
would
be
something
you
could
we
could
bring
forward
for
you,
the
the
the
city
doesn't
have
any
afterburn
any
real
estate
really
to
speak
of
that
is
not
currently
used
for
municipal
use.
So
having
a
policy
for
sort
of
exceptions
is
maybe
not
an
effect
effective
direction
to
take.
D
H
O
O
We
wouldn't
expect
the
latter
two
to
have
an
interest
in
the
property
due
to
its
size
and
location
for
the
for
the
first
for
the
housing
there
may
be
an
interest
for
for
that
use.
If
there
is,
then
we
would
bring
that
the
proposal,
which
would
be
not
a
market
rate
proposal,
we
suspect,
but
we
would
bring
that
proposal
regardless
back
to
the
council
for
discussion
in
closed
session.
O
If
we
have
expressed
interest
during
that
first
period,
the
60-day
notice
period,
then
we
would
sit
down
with
the
whichever
entity
it
is
that
brings
forward.
The
ideas
are
multiple
entities?
Should
there
be
and
and
make
sure
that
we
understand
their
proposals,
they
would
likely
provide
us
a
written
proposal
and
we
would
bring
that
to
the
council
in
closed
session
for
Direction,
so
we
wouldn't
negotiate
with
them
without
having
terms
and
price
conditions
from
the
council
Express
expressed
in
closed
session.
O
O
A
C
J
Good
evening
city
council
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
the
city
disposing
of
this
property
I
remember
when
the
city
wound
up
getting
it
and
it's
part
of
the
entrance
to
Blackberry
Farm
trying
to
solve
the
issues
of
the
very,
very
narrow,
driveway,
etc,
etc
and
I'm
bit
concerned
that
we're
putting
this
up
for
Surplus
Land
Act.
Isn't
that
a
bit
drastic?
Are
we
doing
this
because
we
think
we've
lost
all
this
many
because
of
the
Apple
audit.
J
I,
think
that's
kind
of
overreacting,
I
believe
that
there
had
been
a
group
of
special
needs
parents
that
were
looking
at
this
property.
This
was
two
to
three
years
ago.
Those
parents
came
and
sat
and
did
their
time
in
our
city,
council
chambers,
and
they
repeatedly
came
up
and
said
we
need
housing
for
our
children
and
I
I'm
a
bit
concerned
that
we're
throwing
the
baby
out
with
the
bath
water.
We
have
this
piece
of
property.
We
made
a
promise
that
we
would
have
more
special
needs
housing
and
we're
just
throwing
it
out.
J
J
No
I
I
would
like
to
have
a
full
of
counting
of
why
this
property,
which
it
has
a
house
on
it,
I've
been
in
it
before
there
were
meetings
that
Sandy
James
ran
in
2005,
and
we
were
in
there
about
public
decisions
that
doesn't
seem
to
happen
anymore.
Things
are
done
in
behind
closed
doors,
sleight
of
hand.
J
Why
is
this
property
being
dumped
in
Surplus
Land
Act,
where
you
can
have
a
builder
who
doesn't
want
to
provide
special
needs,
housing,
throw
up
20
stories
of
market
rate,
townhouses,
destroy
the
entrance
to
Blackberry
Farm
and
make
a
complete
disaster
and
disgrace
to
Monte
Vista?
This
is
where
we're
going
with
this.
Okay.
I,
don't
know
the
motivations.
This
is
a
fine
piece
of
property.
We
shouldn't
be
throwing
it
out
just
to
some
greedy
developer,
who
wants
to
put
up
a
slow
Tower.
Even
Senator
weiner
has
said
the
slope.
Tower
is
absolutely
ridiculous.
J
Well,
I,
don't
want
a
slope
Tower
in
Monte,
Vista
I!
Don't
want
a
builder's
remedy
in
the
middle
of
Blackberry
Farm.
What
a
disgrace
and
I'm
going
to
throw
it
out
there
right
now.
The
builders
are
so
greedy
that
they
would
deny
parents
land
to
have
a
house
for
their
special
needs.
Family
members
give
me
a
break.
We
need
to.
C
Y
Y
I
was
unaware
of
the
consequences
of
the
Surplus
Land
Act.
The
house
was
purchased
with
money
from
the
general
fund.
I
think
it
should
go
on
the
market
again
and
immediately,
because
this
is
the
time
to
be
selling
property,
not
at
Christmas
time,
which
is
probably
what
would
happen
if
we
go
through.
All
of
this
we're
gonna
remove
and
get
the
highest
price
for
it.
Y
Y
There's
it's
it's
built
on
fill,
there's
a
retaining
wall
inside
that
is
bulging
out
when
it,
the
basement,
had
been
dug
out
many
years
ago,
as
the
family
of
seven
had
expanded
and
I'll
also
give
you
a
little
piece
of
history
that
the
house
had
previously
been
owned
by
a
gentleman
who
worked
as
a
doorman
in
the
city
of
San
Francisco,
and
he
took
the
train
from
Monte
Vista
station
to
San
Francisco.
Yes,
there
was
a
train
line
from
Monte
Vista
station
to
San
Francisco.
Y
AA
Well,
why
this
is
our
Wong?
Your
former
time
planning
commissioner
chair,
like
Jennifer
I'm,
concerned
that
the
city
council,
the
site,
is
not
the
cut
unnecessary
staff,
real
sdes,
not
big,
ftes
and
decide
to
sell
property,
because
we
don't
have
the
funds,
because
we
are
not
being
fiscally
approval
and
can't
even
be
fiscally
compliant.
We
couldn't
even
have
a
real
Fourth
of
July
and
we
have
some
staff
members.
Instead
of
cutting
staff
members,
these
staff
members
went
to
Los
Altos
to
celebrate
Fourth
of
July.
Didn't
this
property
be
used
for
its
original
purpose?
AA
Why
did
the
city
reneged
on
the
original
offer?
Wouldn't
it
make
more
sense
to
hold
out
for
that
property?
For
now
we
need
a
forefronting
of
General
percent.
Why
can't
we
keep
the
promises
we
make
to
our
residents?
Why
are
we
selling
this
now?
Why
can't
we
have
some
Integrity
on
this
Council?
This
should
be
going
out
now
to
the
public,
not
Surplus
land.
Please
do
not
sell
the
Cooperative
on
your
Surplus
land.
That
is
just
not
right.
Thank
you.
A
You
I'm
closing
the
public
comment
on
this
item
and
thanks
for
all
the
public
input,
I'm
bringing
back
the
council
for
discussion,
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
question
is
the
city
or
any
public
agency
when
they
sells
properties,
they
are
subject
to
the
server's
Land
Act.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct,
Mary?
Okay,
so
we
do
need
to
offer
a
60-day
surplus,
Land
Act,
which
non-profit
or
you
know,
can
purchase
it.
But
of
course
we
bring
it
back
to
the
closed
session.
Is
that
the
proper
procedural.
Z
So
mayor
way,
so
the
state
law
asked
the
council
to
declare
the
property
as
a
surplus.
That's
step
one
and
once
Council
has
done
that
staff
will
put
it
up
for
60
day,
notifying
all
the
affordable
housing
developers.
There
is
actually
a
list
of
all
these
people
on
hcd
website
and
everyone.
That's
who's
interested,
so
there's
a
60-day
period
for
anyone
to
express
written
interest
in
obtaining
the
property.
Once
we
have
that
list,
we
can
bring
it
back
to
Council
in
closed
session
for
a
further
discussion
as
a
system
manager
morally
mentioned.
D
Yes,
so
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
original
statement,
that
I
was
making
and
I
appreciate
the
response,
but
I
I
was
the
person
who
put
the
study
session
on
city-owned
properties
onto
the
work
plan
and
it
was
the
fiscal
year
2022
to
2023
work
plan
and
it.
The
item
was
to
inventory
and
assess
existing
facilities
and
prepare
a
long-range
planning
report
for
three
city-owned
properties,
Blast,
Burn
and
stockelmeyer,
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
was
allocated
for
it
and
it
says
the
the
commission
would
be
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
Department
Public
Works.
D
So
my
concern
here
is
is
that
what
I
had
requested
in
the
rest
of
that
Council
had
agreed
to
was
It
was
kind
of
kind
of
got
a
bit
of
a
run
around
here
where
now
the
the
answer
has
been
provided
to
us
and
the
answer
being
to
sell
the
property
rather
than
having
the
discussion,
so
that
that's
where
we
are
we're
having
the
discussion
to
to
sell
it
and
just
in
in
the
future.
If,
when
this
item
came
up,
I
would
have
preferred
that
staff
said
hey.
D
D
Now
that
we're
looking
at
selling
it.
My
next
concern,
which
I
would
have
liked
to
have
had
this
nailed
down
during
a
study
session,
is
what
do
we
do
when
we
sell
a
residential
piece
of
property?
Do
we
do
we
then
use
that
money
towards
like
I,
said
to
BMR?
Where
is
this
supposed
to
go?
My
understanding
is:
is
that
it's
going
to
go
right
into
the
general
fund
and
it
does.
There
is
no
separate
designation,
and
perhaps
this
is
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
D
O
D
Through
the
mayor,
would
it
be
possible
for
us
to
have
a
a
because
it's
I'm
just
coming
up
with
one
suggestion
here,
but
could
we
have
an
array
of
possibilities,
one
being
that
it
goes
to
the
general
fund?
But
if
we
wanted
to,
if
there's
certain
things,
Parks
Park
amenities
BMR
anything
like
that,
if
there
were
a
little
menu
of
suggestions
that
we
could
have,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated
and
also
moving
forward
when,
if
we
do
something
with
these
other
properties
have
a
couple
different
options
for
us
great.
Thank
you.
A
O
Correct
and
typically
we
would,
we
would
recommend
that
that
occur
in
a
larger
budget
discussion,
for
the
reason
that
at
that
time,
you're
considering
multiple
options
and
multiple
priorities,
and
so
you
have
a
balance
of
of
options
in
front
of
you
at
that
time.
If
the
council
wants
to,
for
instance,
address
unfunded
needs,
we
can
certainly
bring
back
a
list
of
unfunded
needs
for
the
council's
consideration
at
any
point
along
the
way.
Okay,.
H
O
A
D
I
would
want
something
that
is
Transit
oriented,
that's
making
more
practical
sense,
but
with
that,
I
would
like
to
move
the
recommended
action
for
agenda
item
14
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
record
a
roadway
dedication
for
a
portion
of
10301
Byrne
Avenue
and
adopt
resolution
23083,
declaring
the
remaining
property
Surplus
to
the
needs
of
the
city
and
direct
the
city
manager
to
proceed
without
reach,
as
required
by
the
Surplus
Land
Act,
and
authorize
the
city
manager
to
offer
the
property
for
sale
subsequent
to
completion
of
the
requirements.
So
the
Surplus
Land
Act.
C
H
Ask
earlier
so
I
I
do
think
that
this
is
properties
we
should
on
have
this
poster
of
it,
rather
than
seeing
it
being
deteriorating
over
the
years.
So
I,
thank
you
for
bringing
the
item
over,
but
I
do
wonder
the
timing.
Why?
Now?
Because
this
is
was
not
requested
or
discussed
earlier
so
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
there
a
deadline
or
something?
Why
now
there.
O
O
H
Moore
and
council
member
Charles
concern
give
direction
for
this
item
because,
like
the
member
of
the
public
mentioned
two
items,
tonight
are
things
that
wasn't
on
the
work
program
and
that's
really
not
following
the
adopted
Council
procedures
and
we
were,
we
told
the
public
in
June,
there
were
items
we
couldn't
schedule.
Your.
H
A
So
I
like
to
make
a
comment
since
that's
being
proposed
this
property
and
the
question
too,
this
property
was
bought
solely
for
the
purpose
of
having
that
pedestrian
bicycle
right
away,
and
the
moment
that
that's
purpose
has
been
done.
The
project
has
been
done.
That's
why
this
property
is
being
brought
out
for
cell.
Is
that
the
whole
theory
of
it?
That's
correct
and
I
I
really
want
to
say
this
is
the
time
we
can
say
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
We
want
to
keep
it
right.
A
We
can
say
no,
so
this
is
the
ultimate
opportunity
for
Council
to
decide.
We
can
say
I
disagree
with
it.
Let's
keep
it.
We
can
do
something
about
later.
So
I
really
believe
that
our
staff
is
doing
a
good
job
in
bringing
things
when
things
is
done,
that
this
is
for
the
time
for
us
to
move
this
property
forward.
The
other
two
properties
have
different
purpose.
One
is
historical.
The
other
is
right
by
Buddha
Berry
Farm.
It's
not
ready
to
move
anywhere,
so
my
comment
is
I
believe
this
is
the
right
timing
and
it's
not.
A
A
Z
A
C
Yes,
so
Council
has
established
the
council
meeting
calendar
as
adopted
in
January
that
goes
through
January,
2nd
2024.
It
was
amended
again
in
March
to
just
several
meeting
conflicts,
and
so
an
additional
amendment
is
being
proposed
tonight
due
to
a
potential
conflict
in
October.
Merway
is
out
of
the
country
which
poses
a
conflict
with
the
first
meeting
in
October
October
3rd
that
so
an
alternate
meeting
date
is
being
proposed
of
Tuesday
October
10th.
We
have
pulled
all
council
members
and
the
Community
Hall
is
available.
C
The
regularly
scheduled
Planning
Commission
meeting,
which
would
normally
be
held
on
that
date,
would
be
canceled.
So
if
Council
does
wish
to
adopt
this
resolution-
and
it
would
amend
the
established
council
meeting
calendar
through
January
second
and
staff
would
also
provide
the
the
appropriate
meeting
notifications
to
the
public.
A
Thank
you,
madam
City
Kirk
I
I,
like
to
clarify
I,
think
the
question
would
ask:
why
am
I
going
to
be
out
of
the
country?
I
did
receive
an
invitation
from
a
new
type
A
cities
mayor
to
visit
back
because
he
is
inviting
all
of
his
friendship
cities
Mayors
to
go
back.
This
is
going
to
be
on
my
own
expense
and
I
like
to
be
able
to.
A
You
know,
support
his
propositions
that
all
his
mayors
of
his
friendship
cities
go
back
for
a
major
dedication,
so
I
just
received
invitation
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
but
I
was
informed
by
his
staff
about
a
month
ago.
So
I
am
asking
ours,
my
colleagues
to
accommodate
my
schedule
to
move
this
meeting
one
week
later,
so
that
is
I
know.
The
question
is
why
why
am
I
going
back
to
Taipei
again?
So
this
is
the
answer
so
I'm
going
to
open
up
for
questions,
if
not
from
Council
and
I
would
open
up
a
public
comment.
H
So
I
believe
the
city
has
an
ordinance
that
would
allow
council
member
to
attend
the
council
meeting
remotely,
especially
the
technology
is
available.
So
is
that
possible
so
that
we
don't
move
council
meeting
again.
I
already
got
complained
about
this
meeting
being
not
on
the
regular
Tuesday.
So
I
think
everyone
has
travel
schedule
and
if
it's
only
one
person
traveling
is
it
possible
that
we
provide
the
proper
notice
so
that
the
mayor
can
attend
remotely.
So.
H
A
H
A
A
J
Good
evening
city
council
I
understand
if
there
are
issues
with
people
traveling
vice
mayor
Mohan
could
run
the
meeting.
It's
been
done
before
she's
fully
capable
she
is
the
vice
mayor,
so
I
think
the
best
plan
here
is
that
mayor
way
is
allowed
to
represent
the
city
in
Taiwan
and
that
vice
mayor
run
the
meeting.
But
the
meeting
should
be
put
on
the
correct
night.
I
will
tell
you
right
now,
I'm
very
concerned
about
a
number
of
things
that
have
happened
tonight.
J
I
got
I
had
a
family
party,
I
went
to,
I
came
back
and
I
watched
some
things
on
TV
and
that's
why
I
came
down
here.
I'm
really
concerned
that
we're
having
a
lot
of
the
planning
commissions
have
been
completely
canceled
now
I.
We
need
to
talk
about
this
because
you
all
eliminated
three
of
the
standing
city
council
meeting
groups-
okay,
that
was
in
January
February.
So
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we
have
had
no
meetings
for,
like
the
last
two
weeks,
the
Planning
Commission
was
canceled
I.
J
Think
last
week
it's
can
I
looked
ahead,
it's
canceled
next
week.
Okay,
maybe
there's
no
business,
but
I
can
tell
you
right
now
we
are
going
to
have
the
coastal
commission
eliminated
in
this
state
by
some
of
our
legislators
and
the
governor
that
scares
the
big
jabbers
out
of
me
that
Trump's
going
to
Taiwan
that
Trump's
not
having
planning
commissions,
that
is,
legislators
that
are
out
of
control
and
running
their
own
Monopoly
at
the
expense
of
the
public.
We
also
have
I
think
the
Housing
Commission
was
canceled
again
next
week.
J
If
you
looked
at
the
participation
of
the
public
and
the
city
council
members
and
the
planning
Commissioners
this
time
last
year
we
were
running
the
housing
element.
We
all
came
in
for
meetings,
how
we're
struggling
our
way
through
the
reply
from
hcd
to
the
city
and
yeah
at
the
first
line
of
the
response
said
that
they
had
consulted
with
the
MB
action
and
MB
law.
That
really
scares
the
bejeebers
out
of
me
too.
What
what
sort
of
strange
Monopoly
are
we
running
here?
J
The
public
is
scared
to
death,
where
we
don't
know
where
we're
going,
we're
in
a
basket
falling
over
Niagara,
Falls
and
and
we're
having
meetings
of
our
elected
officials,
canceled
and
Mr
R.
Several
gentlemen
have
said
things:
mysteriously,
like
the
lobbying
ordinance
pops
up
on
the
agenda
which
I
had
no
idea.
There
were
problems
with
it.
Nobody
talked
about
it
and
I.
Don't
know
why
the
that
other
group
thinks
they're
involved
or
running
the
city,
business,
yeah,
I
I,
think
we
need
to
keep
our
meetings
let
vice
mayor
Mohan
run
it
thank.
Q
Evening,
I'm
I
just
want
to
talk
about
of
needing
to
be
cordial
and
flexible.
Life
is
complicated
and
if
one
is
rigid
and
fixed
on
a
fixed
schedule
and
things
being
exactly
the
way
they
want,
they
people
will
be
very
upset
and
irate
and
in
life.
You
have
to
pick
what
is
important
and
what
isn't?
What
I
think
is
important
is
that
everybody
on
the
dice
be
treated
respectfully
and
not
be
yelled
at
because
you're
performing
a
service
for
the
city.
Q
That
being
said,
I
have
actually
seen
some
people
at
the
Dias
like
today,
when
mayor
hung
asks
for
a
consideration
for
a
schedule
change.
She
was
subjected
to
quite
a
tirade
from
supposedly
her
colleague
quite
at
length
and
repetitively
over
and
over
again,
accusing
her
of
whatever
so
I
would
say.
There's
a
lot
of
changes
in
life,
and
we
all
all
she's
doing
is
asking
people
to
consider
and
to
vote.
Q
C
A
C
A
I
I
would
not
mind
if
councilman
vice
mayor
Mohan
runs
the
meeting
and
I
would
say
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
say
whether
I
can
attend
a
meeting
during
daytime
because
I
do
not
know
the
pers,
the
logistics
or
the
activities
that's
being
planned.
So
I
just
can't
promise
that
I
will
be
able
to
do
that
and
I'm
okay
with
my
fellow
council
members
decision
for
me
to
miss
the
meeting
and
have
Council
vice
mayor,
Mohan
run
it.
So
this
is
a
cordial
ask.
A
It
could
be
yes,
it
could
be
no
and
I
will
not
feel
personally
offended.
I
do
believe
that
this
is
a
way
advanced
notice.
We
are
in
July
and
this
is
October,
so
it
would
be
a
very
events
notice
to
the
public
that
we're
going
to
postpone
the
meeting
a
week
so
I'm
hoping
that
this
is
not
an
unreasonable
ask
but
I'm
okay
with
my
Council
Federal
Council
middle
decisions
and
to
it
is
actually
not
my
wish
to
go
back
again.
A
It's
a
long
flight,
but
it
is
a
we
did
receive
an
invitation
from
new
type
A
cities,
mayor
and
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
represent
Cupertino
to
attend
the
the
activities
that
he's
arranged
for
all
his
friendship
cities
Mayors
across
the
world.
So
that
is
my
comment
and
I'm
opening
up
for
other
comments
and
I
wish.
We
could
hear
the.
AB
Y
Y
We
have
had
Mayors
and
council
members
not
attend
meetings
in
the
past
due
to
personal
items,
and,
and
that
happens
so
it's
really.
It's
really
great.
It's
really
about
creating
a
balance
between
the
needs
of
the
community
and
the
individual
needs
of
council
members
and
I
know,
I
have
more
to
say,
but
I've
been
running
up
and
downstairs.
Logging
on
and
off
of
my
phone,
so
I
am
I,
am
at
a
loss
of
words
to
say
whatever
else
I
wanted
to
say
so.
Y
Y
Sister
city,
tour
of
Taiwan,
both
from
the
city
manager
and
the
the
mayor,
I,
understand
that
there
were
some
economic
Economic
Development
meetings
that
went
on,
and
it
would
be
really
good
to
see
how
our
investment
in
in
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
in
particular
how
that
will
pay
off
and
I'd
love
to
hear
a
report
back
from
the
mayor
when
she
returns
from
Taiwan
in
October.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
apologize
for
the
confusion
with
my
technical
equipment.
A
D
So
I
appreciate
that
the
the
mayor
has
been
invited
back
to
the
to
Taiwan
again
this
year.
I
would
wish
that
this
were
a
trip
to
one
of
the
other
sister
cities
in
a
different
different
country.
I
would
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
about
the
rescheduling
when
we're
rescheduling
a
regular
meeting
to
a
special
meeting.
It
doesn't
retain
the
the
same,
the
same
elements
and
we
encountered
that
issue
previously
and
it
needed
to
be
addressed.
D
So
there
is
that
issue
also
with
regards
to
the
policy
on
the
city,
council
or
mayor
visiting
places
in
an
official
capacity
representing
the
city,
as
it
was
stated,
I
believe
we
have
a
a
financial
policy
for
paying
for
part
of
that,
or
perhaps
all
of
that
we
looked
at
this
policy
previously.
So
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
travel
policy
is,
that
the
city
is
supposed
to
be
covering
for
for
this
trip.
So
there's
a
couple
of
things
there.
D
What's
the
policy
on
payment
for
it
and
then
also,
we
made
some
accommodations
for
the
regular
meeting
turning
into
a
special
meeting,
but
it
was
a
special
meeting
like
hybrid,
where
all
the
elements
of
the
regular
meeting
would
be
kept,
including
being
able
to
have
future
agenda
items,
which
is
what
we
have
tonight.
So
we
have
one
of
those
hybrid
special
meetings,
that's
acting
as
a
regular
meeting.
So
if
someone
could
respond
to
those
two
parts,
I'd
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
H
So
I
just
verified
the
time
again
if
it.
If
we
had
a
meeting
here
from
6
pm
to
9
00
PM,
that's
9
A.M
to
12
p.m.
Taiwan
time
so,
I,
for
example,
I
had
to
attend
a
conference
last
year
in
New
York
and
then
because
of
I
had
I
have
to
attend
the
housing
element
to
work
on.
We
have
the
community
engagement
group
meeting
I
had
other
activities
Mom
Dad
Monday
afternoon.
I
have
to
skip
that
in
order
to
make
my
join
the
meeting
to
fulfill
my
obligation.
H
A
H
Short
comment,
since
this
is
very
early
I'm
sure
their
schedule
is
not
finalized.
Yet,
if
you
provide
input
that
on
this
morning,
you
have
council
meeting,
you
cannot
attend
the
event
I'm
sure
they
will
arrange
activities
around
your
schedule,
I'm
sure
that
they
do
that
for
a
lot
of
the
Mayors
who
are
likely
have
their
obligations
too.
Thank.
D
I
A
I
just
want
to
make
a
very
simple
comment.
As
for
the
travel
expenses,
I
already
said,
I
would
pay
it
myself
and
I
do
pride
myself
in
11
years
of
school
board.
I
have
not
missed
one
meeting.
That
is
why
I
would
like
to
it.
Is
my
obligation
being
elected
to
attend
all
meetings?
That
is
why
I'm
asking
for
this
change.
It's
not
that
I,
don't
trust
Council!
Vice
mayor
Mohan
can
run
a
good
meeting
that
this.
A
Could
you
know
this
meeting
could
be
without
me
as
just
personally
I
just
want
to
make
one
more
comment
is
I.
Do
pride
myself
trying
to
attend
every
meeting
and
on
the
11th
year
school
board,
I've,
never
missed
one
meeting
and
I
I'm
positive
that
the
schedules
that
they
are
doing
they
would
not.
It
would
be
very
hard
to
accommodate
my
personal
request
and
I'm
not
saying
that
I
can't
zooming
from
abroad,
but
I
would
like
to
request
the
change
with
such
advance
notice,
and
that's
just
it.