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Coverage of the April 26, 2022 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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Under
future
agenda
setting,
it
currently
reads:
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and
the
rise
of
alco
will
be
discussed
at
a
future
planning
commission
meeting
with
no
determined
meeting
date.
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
clarify
that
because,
as
we
indicated,
whether
we
have
another
planning
commission
meeting
with
this
item
on
the
agenda
is
subject
to
further
input
from
the
city
manager
and
the.
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However,
unfortunately,
because
it
was
a,
it
was
a
public
hearing,
there
was
additional
legal
notices
that
were
published
and
and
so
that
that
those
notices
were
not
withdrawn
rescinded,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
so.
In
other
words,
there's
a
legal
notice
for
an
item
or
hearing
that's
not
going
to
occur,
and
so
to
the
extent
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
attending
anticipation
of
that
due
to
legal
notice.
I
want
to
provide
them
with
the
courtesy
to
know
that
it's
not
on
today.
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That
for
that
one,
there
was
a
discussion
by
the
commission
about
how
tall
shrubs
should
be.
There
was
talk
about
them
being
20
feet
tall
and
such,
and
it
was
pointed
out
by
staff
that
it
would
be
very
hard
to
obtain
shrubs
that
would
be
20
feet
tall
and,
as
a
result,
there
was
no
limit.
There
was
no
height
limitation
placed
on
that
shrubs
are
required
to
be
six
feet.
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Yes
sure
thank
you,
chair
sharp.
I
think,
as
you
said,
this
is
the
third
in
a
series
of
planning
commission
study
sessions.
The
first
two
were
on
january
25
and
february
22,
focusing
on
the
site
selection
aspect
of
the
housing
element,
which
is
really
one
of
the
key
steps
we
need
to
get
finalized
in
order
to
begin
work
on
our
sequa
document
for
the
housing
element.
N
I
think,
unlike
the
last
meeting
where
we
were
dealing
with
over
390
sites,
the
the
sites
are
still
there.
They've
been
refined,
they're
still
broken
down
geographically
by
special
area
and
neighborhood,
but
there
is
more
information
provided
to
help
the
commissioners,
hopefully
provide
more
input
to
staff
and
possibly
direction
on
a
recommendation
to
city
council
about
which
sites
to
include
that
said,
we
recognize
this
is
still
not
perfect.
We
know
there
are
some
numerical
issues.
N
We
don't
have
the
level
of
detail
we
should
have
later
on
in
the
process,
but
this
is
intended
to
be
a
much
better
working
draft
to
enable
the
discussion
to
go
forward.
This
evening
we
have
andy
flower
with
emc
planning
and
dave
massington,
with
els
architecture.
Who've
been
involved
in
the
previous
two
planning
commission
meetings.
O
Yes
great?
Thank
you.
Our
purpose
tonight,
as
luke
mentioned,
is
to
continue
to
explore
patterns
of
potential
housing
and
inventory
sites,
to
determine
overarching
goals
for
site
selection
and
to
get
a
lot
more
specific
about
the
sites.
We
would
want
to
see
move
forward
to
council
review.
We
recognize
that
the
current
list
and
map
is
not
perfect.
The
goal
is
to
improve
through
today's
discussion
and
to
continue
that
improvement
process
with
communication
from
the
public.
Our
agenda
tonight
we're
just
quickly
going
to
review
again.
O
The
arena
or
regional
housing
needs
allocation
table
and
we'll
go
through
the
sites
and
we'll
go
area
by
area.
There
is
a
total
of
29
areas,
six
of
which
do
not
include
sites
currently,
but
there
is
the
opportunity
tonight
to
add
live
to
our
map
to
our
interactive
map.
So
here
is
our
arena
table
just
as
a
reminder
to
everyone.
Our
total
anticipated
capacity
that
we
need
to
reach
is
4588
that
doesn't
include
buffer,
we'll
get
to
that
here
in
a
minute
and
a
reminder
also
our
process
for
site
selection.
O
We
need
to
incorporate
concepts
of
affh,
also
understood
as
equity,
we're,
including
public
comments
and
decision
maker
input
and
property
owners,
and
among
all
of
that
we
get
to
our
sites.
We
want
to
reduce
barriers
to
housing,
development,
increase
access
to
resources
and
avoid
hazardous
sites
unless
mitigation
is
feasible
so
for
process
for
the
site
selection.
O
O
So
we
also
note
that
interest
from
owners
is
spread
throughout
the
city
disclaimers.
The
existing
units
are
not
yet
included
with
the
analysis.
That
is
essential.
It
is
important.
It
takes
a
lot
of
staff
time
to
make
that
happen.
So
we
want
to
be
a
lot
more
certain
about
the
sites
before
we
delve
into
that
kind
of
detail,
so
it
will
be
incorporated
as
a
no
net
loss,
and
that
means
that
our
total
number,
because
we're
not
anticipating
the
existing
units
in
our
count,
it
means
we'll
have
to
go
over
that
4588.
O
Tonight,
we're
not
going
to
get
into
a
detailed
description
about
why
a
buffer
is
actually
beneficial
for
a
city
to
consider,
but
it
can
help
with
costs
that
would
otherwise
be
incurred
through
a
mid-cycle
revision
that
may
be
necessary
if
we're
not
able
to
meet
those
arena.
Goals
that
we're
setting
with
our
housing
element
update
that
we're
working
on
right
now,.
O
Our
main
goal
in
looking
at
sites
really
is
composed
of
these
three
things:
we're
looking
for
community
support,
we're
not
looking
to
bring
forward
sites
or
areas
that
don't
have
that
community
support.
We're
also
looking
for
owner
interest
to
develop
in
large
part,
because
hcd
demands
this.
They
want
to
understand
that
there
is
a
reasonable
predictability
for
the
sites
that
we're
putting
forward
in
our
update
that
there
that
there
is
a
high
likelihood.
Although
at
our
last
meeting,
we
did
discuss
the
possibility
for
certain
circumstances
where,
if
that
is
the
only
variable.
O
Decision
makers
may
choose
to,
and
staff
may
recommend
overriding
that
piece.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
clarity
and
predictability
of
permitting
so
through
our
analysis
of
constraints
we'll
be
recommending
potentially
changes
to
zoning
going
forward.
So
some
of
the
factors
that
we've
incorporated
with
our
process
of
refining
our
sites-
and
this
is
an
iterative
process-
this
won't
be
the
only
time
that
we're
that
we're
taking
away
sites-
and
it
won't
be
the
only
time
that
we're
adding
sites
so
tonight,
we'll
see
a
snapshot
as
luke
mentioned.
It's
not
perfect.
O
We
embrace
everybody's
participation
in
helping
us
refine
this
to
get
closer
to
perfection,
we're
looking
to
the
hcd
checklist,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we
started
out
with
looking
at
all
sites
that
fit
into
that
property.
Size
range
we.
We
then
also
select
out
for
those
sites
that
have
been
recently
redeveloped,
anticipating
that
there's
a
very
small
likelihood
that
something
recently
redeveloped
would
be
developed
again
in
short
order
of
these
eight
next
eight
years,
we're
also
looking
to
environmental
constraints
such
as
hazard,
hazardous
sites.
O
So
this
is
a
carryover.
The
goals
that
we
discussed
at
our
last
meeting
to
spread
housing
sites
throughout
the
city
to
consider
pipeline
projects
consider
areas
with
disproportionate
development
over
time
and
consider
local
school
needs,
consider
options
to
increase
grants
for
low
and
very
low
housing,
construction
and
minimize
up
zoning.
A
couple
of
these
are
going
to
be
covered
more
when
we
get
into
policy
and
options
with
policy
and
programs,
and
I
do
want
to
mention
that
the
idea
of
minimizing
up
zoning
that
may
be
proportional
to
the
number
of
sites.
O
Quite
significantly,
this
is
seven
of
the
eight
there's
actually
one
more
that
you'll
see
further
along
in
our
process.
Here,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
learning
as
we
go,
and
we
will
share
that
additional
information
when
we
come
to
it.
This
is
the
map
that
we
shared
with
you
at
our
last
meeting.
This
is
the
site.
This
is
the
site
map
that
shows
all
of
the
sites
that
are
between
half
acre
and
10
acres.
So
therefore
they
meet
that
initial
threshold.
O
That
hcd
recommends
for
consideration
for
inclusion
in
a
in
a
site's
inventory
and
here's
our
map.
Now,
so
you
see
we
can
refine
it.
We
have
refined
it
quite
significantly
and
we'll
move
forward
through
through
each
area,
but
this
this
shows
the
pipeline
projects
as
an
overlay
to
our
refined
sites
map.
O
So
I
have
this
earlier
map
in
between
each
of
our
areas
to
enable
a
orientation,
as
you
can
see
here.
The
first
area
we'll
be
discussing
is
the
creston
farlet
neighborhood
and
we've
retained
it
so
that
you
can
see
the
difference
between
what
was
shown
at
the
last
meeting
compared
to
the
area
with
the
sites
shown
as
a
refined
group
of
areas,
and
I
want
to
pause
here
and
request
that
chair
scharf
weigh
in.
We
have
two
different
ways
that
we
could
move
forward
through
this.
O
A
A
O
A
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E
A
You
know
we'll
be
discussing
it
and
I
you
know
was
thinking
about
this
and
I
you
know
I
would
not
object
to
allowing
the
public
to
comment
on
each
section,
even
though
that
will
make
the
meeting
longer
they
will
have
the
same.
You
know
issues
as
the
commission
has
trying
to
you
know.
Waiting
till
the
end
is
not
going
to
work.
We
have
to
do
this
as
painful
as
it
may
be,
so
yeah
go
ahead.
I.
E
Yeah,
you
know,
let
me
let
me
solicit
the
input.
Okay,
mr
flowers
and
the
staff
you
know
to
see
you
know
what
direction
they
want
to
go
with
this.
I
just
want
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
have
a
meaningful
process
to
provide
input
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
we
do
it.
Typically,
we
have
the
staff
presentations
any
clarifying
questions
by
the
commissioners,
and
then
we
allow
you
know
we
invite
the
staff.
I
mean
the
public
to
input
so.
A
A
A
O
A
O
O
O
O
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D
O
O
With
our
area
number
four
garden
gate,
we
show
a
new
site.
This
this
site
is
currently
in
the
right-of-way.
That
is
a
site.
I
should
make
clear.
We
were
not
able
to
include
in
the
mapping,
because
the
mapping
is
dependent
on
parcels,
and
this
is
a
site-
that's
been
discussed
in
the
past
as
an
opportunity
to
sort
of
carve
out
a
buildable
site
for
housing
out
of
what
is
currently
right-of-way.
A
Q
Thank
you,
chair
sharp.
This
is
jennifer
griffin
and
I
already
wrote
drove
over
to
the
city
council
chambers,
because
I
thought
this
was
not
going
to
be
virtual.
I
thought
it
was
hybrid,
so
I
came
around
and
drove
home,
so
I'm
already
a
bit
okay
anyway.
Yes,
I
know
you
know,
I'm
just
going
to
start
out.
Everybody
is
doing
the
best
they
can
with
this
god-awful
mandate
from
hcd.
Q
I
am
not
voting
for
rob
bonta
when
he
runs
for
reelection
in
june.
He
was
appointed
by
the
governor
and
I
am
not
voting
for
that
man
at
all.
I
I'm
sorry.
This
is
a
test
of
the
public's
patience
and
I
lost
mine
about
five
days
ago.
So,
first
of
all,
let's
start
out
with
the
foothill
boulevard
area
very
familiar
with
that.
Q
My
mother
used
to
work
at
the
nursing
home
there.
What
is
the
large
chunk
of
land?
Is
that
an
apartment
complex,
that's
being
rezoned,
or
are
we
re-zoning
the
nursing
home?
If
you
could
address
that?
What
that
is,
I
believe
that
that
site
is
an
older
apartment,
complex,
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
many
units
we're
planning
on
putting
in
there
that
road
is
very,
very
congested
already.
There's
a
lot
of
traffic.
We
have
cory
trucks
running
up
and
down
there.
You
know
if
hcd
thinks
that
this
is
going
to
go
down
easy.
Q
It
ain't
going
to
go
down
easy.
The
next
one
is:
my
grandmother
lived
on
randy
lane.
Why
are
they
rezoning
a
house
on
randy
lane?
That
is
inappropriate
and
it
should
not
be
done
so
I'm
sorry
this
is
they
can't
shut
the
public
up
and
the
public
is
mad
and
concerned.
This
is
a
fool's
errand.
Everyone
has
been
put
on.
Q
A
O
I,
if
I
may,
I
would
like
to
set
up
a
little
bit
of
shared
expectation
here.
What
I'm
presenting
tonight
is
the
result
of
many
hands
effort,
so
I'm
not
going
to
have
all
the
detailed
answers.
What
I
would
prefer
to
do
is
for
for
us
all
to
collaborate
together.
So
I
I
heard
clearly
that
there
was
concerns
about
specific
sites
and
I'm
happy
to
go
to
those
sites,
and
we
can
we
can
actively
remove
sites
or
consider
a
smaller
number
of
sites,
as
recommendation
and
move
forward
with
that.
O
F
B
F
This
10
193
randy
is,
as
you
can
it's
it's
a
property
zoned
r1.
It
actually
backs
up,
as
you
can
tell
to
a
development
that
has
five
homes
on
it.
It
has
five
townhomes
on
it.
I
think
we
think
it's
absolutely
the
same
size
site.
I
think
it
lends
itself
to
being
something
of
a
similar
development
if
it
can
develop
that
way,
and
that's
the
reason
why
it
was
included
on
this
list
and
here's
the
five
lot
development
that
backs
on
to
it.
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R
F
F
So
andy
will
have
to
help
me
about
whether
there's
a
property
owner
interest
on
that
particular
site.
But
yes,
that
is
an
existing
apartment
complex
over
there
and
it
is
a
very
old
apartment,
complex
and
there.
If,
if
I
don't
know
if
the
commission
recalls,
but
we
did
have
a
few
actually
one
apartment
complex
that
did
some
infill
units
homestead,
they
were
they
added
113
apartments,
if
I
recall
on
their
site
so
this
this
might
be
either
an
infill
opportunity.
A
F
I
don't
know
that
we
would
know
that
necessarily
I
mean
even
for
the
hamptons.
You
know
when
they
came
in
with
their
proposal.
We
didn't
know
whether
they
were
going
to
remove
all
342
in
order
to
add
the
600
or
whether
they
were
going
to
do
it
as
an
infill
development.
But
what
they
indicated
was
that
they
wanted
600
units
right.
A
B
I
do
I,
I
think,
I'm
sure
sheriff
you
you're,
pushing
on
a
point
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
clear
of
the
city
has
spent
a
lot
of
money
for
this
service
and
there
is
an
expectation
that
there
is
a
level
of
quality,
that's
being
delivered
here,
and
it
is
a
collaborative
effort.
But
there
is
an
expectation
on
my
end
as
a
commissioner
that
the
consulting
firm
here
does
know
the
details
of
every
one
of
these
properties.
Otherwise
they
should
not
have
been
selected,
and
I
have
that
expectation
that
everybody
here
has
a
team.
B
S
Good
evening,
commissioners
and
staff
and
emc
group
a
couple
comments:
the
randy
lane
site
10193,
is
in
garden.
Gate
I
mean
is,
is
in
north
blaney,
it's
not
in
garden
game,
and
it
is
a
big
site
that
could
take
so
long
as
you
do
a
blending
with
similar
low
density
kind
of
things
it
would
fit
in
well.
S
So
I
would
ask
that
you
take
that
one
off
unless
there's
some
compelling
reason.
Also
the
the
cupertino
road,
one
that
you
just
the
old
apartment,
complex
it's
right
next
to
sunnyview,
retirement
center
and
sunnyview
is
the
only
reasonably
priced
retirement
center.
It's
not
an
atria
or
a
forum,
it's
something
maybe
a
normal
person
could
maybe
move
into.
So
I
was
wondering
if
maybe
that's
could
be
incorporated
into
sunnyview.
S
If,
if
there
was
an
interest,
it
could
be
affordable,
housing
or
senior
housing
or
whatever
bandley
is
part
of
garden
gate.
Bendley
drive
and
there
are
some
old
commercial
buildings
there
single
story
really
old
kind
of
like
bub
road
and
they
there's
not.
They
should
be
incorporated.
I
can
give
you
at
least
one
of
the
addresses.
If
that
would
help
10385
how
many
minutes
I
have
57
minutes.
Another
one
is
the
one
north
of
it
I'm
trying
to
get
the
address.
S
A
F
A
M
M
But
I
heard
earlier
that
you're
trying
to
find
sites
that
are
likely
not
contaminated,
and
I
see
a
few
that
I
would
say
likely
are
that
gas
station.
I
don't
know
how
long
it's
been
there
if
they
have
auto
repair,
just
being
that
close
to
85
in
itself
is
not
so
great.
So
there
are
others
in
other
areas
that
I
know
to
be
the
dry
cleaner,
long
time,
dry,
cleaner.
M
M
So
that's
concerning-
and
I
know
this
isn't
an
easy
job
and
I
actually
would
like
to
point
out
to
people.
There
are
the
many
people
that
are
upset
about
a
lot
of
this
and
how
what
is
required
and
how
it's
coming
through
the
city,
because
I
also
heard
earlier
that
this
is
the
third
time
of
site
selection.
There
has
really
never
been
a
list
of
sites
presented
to
anybody
that
I
know
not
planning,
commission,
it
was
delayed
and
delayed.
M
M
A
F
A
A
T
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
to
others,
not
not
just
me
and
as
the
public
is
talking
and
you're
talking
about
different
buildings
and
locations.
If
we
could
have
maps
there
there
we
could
see
what's
what's
going
on.
I
don't
think
everybody
here
watching.
This
meeting
is
familiar
with
all
the
details
of
all
the
neighborhoods
and
I
just
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
you
could
help
us
out
with
that
a
little
bit.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
janet
and
that
you
are
raising
some
excellent
points.
I
think
it's
not
just
you.
It's
even
the
planning,
commissioners
and
you
know
already
we've
seen
that
we
have
streets
that
are
in
different
neighborhoods
than
than
what's
being
presented
so
yeah.
I'm
kind
of
disappointed
with
this
whole
process
as
well.
U
U
Is
it
tripped
right
out
of
the
gate
through
no
fault
of
the
planning
commission,
I
think
to
the
last
caller
statement.
You
know
andy,
your
your
cupertino
third
draft
housing
sites
inventory
map
that
was
in
the
agenda.
It
doesn't
match
the
the
same
document
that
you
just
opened
up
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
and
and
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
simple
if
you
went
through
this
and
numbered
each
site
and
had
an
excel
breakdown
below
it,
where
you
can
see
we're
talking
about
site
number
three.
U
This
is
the
density,
and
so
the
community
could
look
at
the
map.
Look
at
the
sheet
below
it,
because
right
now
you
have
to
cross-reference,
and
if
you
don't
know
what
the
neighborhoods
are
called
you'll
wind
yourself
up
in
a
circle,
and
it's
really
it's
really
tough
to
dissect,
and
you
know
relative
to.
I
had
my
comments
for
kind
of
I
didn't
know
we
were
going
to
go
neighborhood
by
neighborhood,
so
I
can
save
those
until
later,
because
I
had
more
general
comments
and
questions.
One
of
them,
I
think,
is
important.
U
Is
you
see
a
lot
of
new
densities
assigned
to
sites
like
30
units
or
85
units?
Is
there
going
to
be
ultimately
a
range?
Is
there
a
minimum?
Is
there
a
maximum
because
30
units
can
be
a
no
man's
land
density?
It's
too
much
for
detached
town
homes
and
it's
too
little
for
structured
type
parking,
and
so
I'm
just
I'm
curious
about
that.
U
G
U
A
V
V
We
submitted
a
seven
page
comment
document
for
cupertino
for
all
earlier
today
we
covered
this
topic
there,
one
of
the
things
that
particularly
concerns
us
aside
from
the
fact
that
this
is
potentially
a
displacement
project
is
that
there
is
no
proposed
change
in
the
density
there
right
now.
If
it
has
119
homes.
If
you
could
max
out
the
density
at
129,
I
just
don't
see
how
anyone
would
redevelop
this
and
only
get
10
more
homes
out
of
it.
V
So
those
are
the
comments
I
think
we
offer
on
this
particular
section
of
the
the
map,
I'll
echo,
some
of
the
other
comments
that
some
folks
have
made,
in
particular
the
ones
that
lisa
warren
made
with
regard
to
potential
site
contamination
at
gas
stations.
Obviously,
these
are
things
that
can
be
remediated.
It's
done
all
the
time,
however,
you'll
want
to
try
to
make
sure
that
you
incorporate
that
into
what
the
cost
would
be
in
order
to
build
on
such
a
site
and
how
you
would
facilitate
it.
Thank.
L
L
F
On
one
screen
and
trying
multiple
windows
here
so
sorry
about
that,
it's
taking
a
minute
to
unmute
the
personal
in
question.
I
can
actually
share
my
screen
for
the
zoning
map.
Yes,
there
is
r16
in
the
vicinity,
but
it
is
actually
further
away
from
that
part.
So
the
parcel
in
question
is
where
my
cursor
is
right.
Now,
there's
actually
a
big
bunch
of
r110
right
there
there's
some
r110
around
it.
I
believe
that
the
applicant
has
an
application
in
for
subdivision.
Currently,
the
current
zoning
is
r110.
F
F
L
L
W
W
When
this
development
happens-
and
I
I
feel
like
sometimes
we
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that,
when
we
put
a
aside
on
it
for
development
that
this
is
many,
many
families,
many
individuals
who
are
going
to
loop,
what
was
probably
some
of
the
most
reasonably
priced
housing
in
the
area
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
the
state
providing
for
relocation
costs
for
those
folks
and-
and
you
know
what
what
is
the
planning
for
displacement
in
those
cases?
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
whole
discussion
this
evening.
A
P
D
P
Have
to
register
myself
so
that
that's
wrong
link.
You
know
my
bad
I'll.
Try
to
keep
this
short
again.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
your
work
here.
I
agree
with
janet's
early
suggestion
that
maybe
like
screen,
sharing
bringing
up
the
like
map
or
street
view
as
a
site
is
being
discussed,
would
be
pretty
helpful
during
these
breakdowns
and
the
following
requests,
I
think,
would
apply
to
these
parcel
areas,
but
frankly,
like
I
think,
all
the
parcel
areas,
I
think
it
would
be
pretty
beneficial
for
the
public.
P
I
know
this
can't
be
done
this
second,
but
you
know
after
tonight,
if
possible.
I
recognize
that
the
first.
This
is
like
a
first
iteration
and
just
under
draft,
but
if
we,
if
there
was
data
on
three
things,
really
the
indication
of
interest
per
site,
you
know
other
than
the
highlighted
designation.
The
pdf
of
you
know
there's
interest
in,
I
think
increasing
the
area
or
density
the
projected
kind
of
difference
between
existing
and
new
units
per
site.
P
Just
because,
if
there's
already
existing
units
on
site,
is
it
just
a
net
gain
of
say,
10
units
or
something
like
that
and
then
the
affordable?
If
again,
if
this
is
available-
and
maybe
it's
not
available-
but
it
gives
us
a
better
way
to
assess-
is
just
the
potential
affordable
units
per
site,
and
I
think
you
know
that
would
color
people's
assessments
of
sites
like
alluded
to
earlier,
like
the
gas
station
site
that
might
require
more
remediation,
which
would
then
affect
you,
know
the
number
of
affordable
units.
P
You
could
actually
feasibly
like
pencil
out
in
such
a
project
site,
and
I
don't
want
to
venture
off
these
particular
areas.
I
know
just
because
we're
trying
to
focus
our
comment,
but
frankly
I
don't
know
if
I'll
be
able
to
stay
for
all
the
parcel
area
discussions
so
really
quickly.
I
think
if
I,
if
I
may,
I
think
I
if
we
can
focus
as
community
feedback
if
we
get
focused,
I
think,
exploring
the
sites
around
heart
of
the
city
areas
and
de
anza
boulevard
major
transit
corridors.
P
I
think
that
would
be
advantageous
in
both
you
know,
stated
state
policy
and
just
smart,
sustainable
development
around
access
to
public
transit,
as
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
aware,
but
that
would
be
my
my
feedback
if
I'm
not
able
to
comment
on
those
partial
areas
in
particular,
because
I
know
they're
a
little
later
on,
I
think
in
the
list,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
again
for
the
time
and
opportunity
to
comment
here.
A
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
So
that
is
all
the
hands
raised
for
these
four
areas,
so
we
can
bring
it
back
to
the
commission.
I
I
had
one
question
when
like
on
foothill,
it's
a
very
small
net
gain,
but
we
seem
to
be
losing
a
bunch
of
naturally
affordable
housing
and
in
return
we
are
going
to
get
new
rental
housing
with
15,
I
presume
bmr.
So
I
just
wondered:
is:
is
there
any
bmr
at
that
site
now,
or
is
that
so
old
that
you
know
there
was
never
bmr
to
begin
with?
P
F
A
Yeah,
you
know-
and
this
is
a
problem-
that
a
bunch
of
cities
are
running
into.
I
know
mountain
view.
A
bunch
of
apartment
buildings
that
were
quote
naturally
affordable
are
being
torn
down
under
the
ellis
act
and
being
rebuilt
as
luxury
housing.
And
yes,
there
is
a
lot
of
displacement
going
on,
and
you
know
this
it's
unfortunate,
but
yeah.
F
G
A
H
H
H
Do
you
have
any
criteria
for
that
or
how
does
I
mean
some
place?
I
saw
that
it's
going
from
on
above
road
or
somewhere
later
on.
We
will
cover
that
and
it
is
going
to
hundred
from
20
from
some
20
dwellings
to
100
or
something
other
places.
East
state
drive
or
something
there
they're
going
from
25
to
85
a
drastic
increase
three
times
four
times
or
something
like
that.
So
when
we
have
such
a
massive
increase,
it's
not
intuitive
by
looking
at
your
spreadsheet
that
what
are
you?
How
is
that
actually.
G
A
A
O
Here
sheriff
I'm
I'm
listening
to
the
comments
and-
and
we
have
struggled
to
wrap
our
arms
around
this-
to
make
it
a
lot
more
user-friendly
to
walk
through
area
by
area
than
it
was
at
our
last
commission
meeting
where
we
would
have
otherwise
been
walking
through
390
sites.
But
we
acknowledged
that
there
are
challenges,
and-
and
maybe
this
evening
is
is-
is
not
going
to
work
for
us.
I
I
want
to
see.
I
want
to
make
clear
what
our.
O
O
The
way
that
we
have
made
it
possible
for
people
to
share
comments
with
our
other
clients
and
our
our
goal
for
our
next
step
with
cupertino
is
to
incorporate
these
sites
in
our
balancing
act.
Calculator
specific
sites,
this
time,
rather
than
the
general
generalized
areas
and
there's
an
automatic
calculator
that
enables
people
to
share
with
us
where
they
would
like
to
see
more
houses
or
fewer
houses
and
excuse
me
homes
and
we
pair
that
with
our
website,
where
we
have
narrative
and
we
have
an
ability
for
people
to
comment
directly.
A
You
know
some
sites
are
good
for
transit.
One
of
the
members
of
the
public
mention
that
and
some
sites
have
environmental
issues
like
gas
stations
and
some
sites
would
help
the
under
schools.
So
I
don't
know
how
you
factor
all
those
things
in
when
you
are
trying
to
choose.
You
know,
because
it
seems
like
we
have
more
sites
than
you
know.
A
You
know
we
actually
would
need,
so
we
need
to
be
calling
them
down
somewhat,
while
still
trying
to
distribute
them
geographically
and
taking
into
account
the
whole
affh
issue,
which
I
mean.
Fortunately
in
cupertino.
I
don't
think
we
have
as
much
of
an
issue
with
affh.
As
you
know,
larger
cities
that
have
economic-
you
know,
distribution
of
housing.
You
know
where
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
economic
disparity
anyway,
I
guess
we
are
ready.
Oh,
we
have
luke
connolly,
go
ahead.
A
You
know,
I
think
this
is
a
painful
exercise
that
we
have
to
go
through.
I
was
you
know,
thinking
about
this
meeting
earlier
I
go
well.
You
know
this
meeting
could
go
to
midnight
because
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do
here
and
you
know
we
really
want
the
public
to
be
heard
on
all
of
this,
because
this
effects
affects
them.
You
know
in
such
a
large
way,
so
I
think
we,
let's
just
continue
with
the
next
four
areas
and
yeah.
O
So
I
I
hesitate
to
encourage
us
to
believe
that
we'll
be
culling
the
sites
from
here.
It's
it's
been
called
quite
far,
and
I
I
wonder
if
at
tonight's
meeting,
if
it
might
be
helpful,
to
acknowledge
and
and
recognize
if
there
are
any
sites
that
have
been
removed,
that
maybe
commissioners
believe
should
be
brought
back
into
the
list
for
consideration.
A
Yeah
I
did
have
that.
I
was
waiting
until
we
got
to
another
the
other
areas
to
mention
them,
but
you
know
one
one
helpful
thing:
you
know
what
is
our
total
pipeline
sites
and
how
many
units
do
we
actually
need
to
entitle
beyond
the
pipeline
units
and
also
what
you
know,
an
idea
of
the
property
owners
that
have
asked
for
large
entitlements
on
large
parcels?
You
know
I
understand,
like
cupertino
village,
I
think
you
mentioned
that
they
had
asked
for
500
units
over
there.
Well,
you
put
500
there.
P
A
Others
feel
about
putting
that
many
units
there
to
me.
It
would
seem
personally,
it
seemed
like
a
good
area
to
have
some
density,
but
I
mean
do
we
have
a
number
of
what
we
actually
have
to
entitle
in
subtracting
the
pipeline
units
and
are
the
hamptons
pipeline?
It
seems
like
they're
not
did
they
actually
say
they're,
not
building.
A
O
F
A
N
I
believe
there
was,
but
we
have
not
heard
anything
back,
indicating
that
they
would
develop,
and
you
know,
and
again
with
the
the
pipeline
is
something
obviously
excuse
me.
Hcd
will
be
looking
at
this
as
well,
and
I
think
the
hamptons
is
very
much
a
gray
area.
It's
a
lot
of
units,
but
it's
definitely
entitled
their
development
agreement
runs
what
another
four
years.
N
So,
while
it's
not
shown,
I
I
think
that
is
still
potentially
a
pipeline
project,
just
given
the
fact
that
it
has
an
entitlement
so
that
potentially
puts
your
pipeline
at
about
3
500,
which
means
you
just
have
you
know
about
eleven
hundred
units
plus
a
riser
if
that
were
factored
in
and
that
yeah
that's
a
great
reduction.
I
think
we
were
just
trying
to
put
the
more
certain
projects
in
the
pipeline
at
this
time,
but
it's
it's
not
precluding
the
hamptons
from
making
the
laws.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
it's
definitely
worth
you
know,
pushing
irvine
to
to
say
one
way
or
another.
At
least
you
know
say
you
know
if
they
say
they're.
Definitely
not,
then
we
know
you
know
to
forget
about
that
as
the
pipeline
units,
but
if
they
say
yeah,
maybe
maybe
we'll
build,
but
I
think
we
can
count
them
yeah.
O
D
O
O
K
T
A
A
Q
Hcd
is
immoral.
I
have
some
questions
about
things
on
by
linda
vista,
when
hcd
is
demanding
that
we
re-zone
our
land
in
cupertino.
Are
they
taking
into
account
potential
traffic
overload
in
areas
that
they're
demanding
that
we
build
housing
in?
I
would
have
a
great
number
of
concerns
about
building
out
a
lot
of
areas
in
linda
vista,
because
the
roads
are
very,
very
narrow
there.
You
have
three
major
school
areas
that
are
already
impacted
when
people
are
trying
to
take
their
children
there.
Q
It's
a
tri-school
area
and
I
I'm
very
very
concerned
about
fire
safety.
How
do
you
get,
and
I
nobody
has
addressed
this
okay,
we're
in
the
wild
wild
west?
I
never
thought
as
an
adult,
I
would
see
an
agency
of
the
state
acting
like
a
little
little
whiny
child,
but
so
do
we
get
to
say
that
there
are
areas
in
our
city
that
are
dangerous
to
put
high
density
housing
in
and
one
of
them
is
areas
around
linda
vista
and
inspiration.
Q
A
O
A
F
F
O
F
F
A
A
D
X
Given
that
we
have
so
many
sites
that
we've
been
calling
and
calling.
I
suggest
that
what
we
focus
on
are
the
sites
that
we'll
be
discussing
a
little
later
in
the
heart
of
the
city,
where
you're
talking
more
about
businesses
that
might
want
to
repurpose
to
be
into
homes.
There's
no
displacement
net
amount
of
homes,
they're
going
to
be
in
a
place
where
there
is
transit.
X
X
M
But
thank
you
so
I'm
going
to
say
this
before
I'm
going
to
say
what
I
was
going
to
say
as
far
as
heart
of
the
city,
there's
already
plenty
of
units
allocated
on
this
draft
to
heart
of
the
city
and
heart
of
the
city
is
becoming
something
way
larger
than
ever
intended.
I
believe,
and
we
have
to
remember
that
part
of
the
goal
of
this
is
to
equally
distribute.
G
M
D
M
M
It's
not
cupertino,
and-
and
I
don't
misquote
that
anyone
please
what
I
mean
by
it's-
not
cupertino-
it's
not
what
most
of
the
residents
living
here
currently
purchased
in
the
lifestyle
and
the
health
and
safety
and
quality
of
life
to
have
this
concentration
of
any
kind
of
building.
So
that's
what
I
meant
so
the
hamptons.
M
M
A
Y
Good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
john
zao.
I
am
a
resident
in
cupertino,
I
formerly
served
on
the
housing
commission
and
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
yeah
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
cupertino.
I
grew
up
going
to
public
schools
here
and
my
background
is
also
in
city
planning.
I
have
a
masters
of
community
and
regional
planning
from
university
of
british
columbia
and
I
have
some
experience
working
with
like
housing
and
transportation
in
the
bay
area
and
yeah.
I
would
like
to
just
share
that.
Y
Y
This
is
a
really
like
inefficient
use
of
our
the
precious
land
that
we
have
right
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
build
new
homes
that
are
close
to
public
transportation,
grocery
stores
and
other
important
amenities,
and
also,
I
think
it
would
really
help
with
the
situation
we're
in
where
I
think
it's.
It's
just
interesting
that
the
commission
does
not
want
to
consider
up
zoning,
but
if,
if
we
do
that,
then
we're
going
to
run
into
an
issue
where
we
have
to
choose
like
100
different
sites.
Y
A
Thank
you
now
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
commission,
so
I
just
want
to
in
response
to
john.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
are
necessarily
against
upzoning,
where
it
makes
sense.
I
think
I
think
we
do
have
a
desire
to
distribute
the
units
equitably
across
the
city
and
not
put
as
much
as
possible
in
heart
of
the
city
where
there
als
already
is
a
tremendous
number
of
units
anyway,
any
of
the
other
commissioners
would
any
of
you
like
to
speak
on
this.
A
H
I
O
Comes
to
parcel
size
for
each
of
those
parcels.
There
was
some
reason
why
the
developable
area
is
smaller
than
the
actual
parser
parcel
size
for
one
of
the
sites.
It
was
for
a
geographical
reason
and
for
the
other,
it
was
that
the
property
owner
has
an
interest
in
developing
only
on
the
existing
parking
lot
area.
H
O
H
H
In
general,
I've
seen
that
what
you
have
done
is
you
have
multiplied
the
the
maximum
of
the
current
dwelling,
peri
acre
and
new
dwelling
per
acre
numbers
with
the
parcel
size,
and
you
put
it
in
the
total
new
units
in
general.
I'm
just
seeing
this
map
playing
out
over
and
over
again.
So,
but
the
question
is
that
that
how
did
you
come
with
30
numbers?
There.
O
Oh,
yes,
so
that
site
specifically,
is
a
church,
it's
saint
jude's,
church
and,
and
it's
not
that
the
church
is
going
to
go
away,
they
could
facilitate
ab
1851
and
they
could
develop
within
the
existing
parking
lot.
So
we
we
made
our
assumptions
for
a
number
of
units
according
to
density,
multiplied
by
the
area
of
land
that
is
outside
of
the
church,
because
there
is
not
an
intention
to
to
demolish
the
church.
O
O
D
A
G
B
D
G
A
D
O
O
O
It's
it's
certainly
included
for
okay,
so
one
thing
we
do
know
is
that
cupertino
is
mostly
built
out.
So
for
the
most
part
our
sites
are
going
to
involve
redevelopment
and
there
there
has
been
some
talk
about
early
revision
requests
from
hcd
for
southern
california,
cities
where
they're
even
pushing
on
consideration
for
displacement
of
commercial
areas.
O
That's
now
in
debate
and
discussion-
and
I
think
they've
pulled
back
from
that,
but
we
do
want
to
be
conscientious
of
any
anyone
who
would
be
displaced,
whether
it
would
be
a
commercial
act,
a
commercial
use
or
residential
use
and
absolutely
if
it's
a
naturally
occurring,
affordable
unit.
So
absolutely
displacement
considerations
will
be
incorporated
and
addressed
and
considered
as
we
move
forward
through
this
process.
So
right
now
we're
just
trying
to
get
a
firm
list
for
that
deeper
dive
and
and
deeper
understanding,
but
because
we're
dealing
with
a
community
that
is
mostly
built
out.
O
F
Yeah
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
something
to
that.
I
I
think
chair
sharp.
This
is
there
has
to
be
some
consideration,
for
you
know
what
what
gets
lost
in
in
this
process,
whether
they're
homes
that
are
lost
or
whether
there's
commercial
development
that
is
lost,
and
I
think
that
is
indeed
a
choice
that
the
community
has
to
make
because
of
what
we're
charged
with
doing,
and
so
the
other
part
is,
you
know.
D
F
Think
that
those
are
the
two
choices
in
in
when
looking
at
the
the
situation.
Essentially
so,
and
I
think
right
now,
it's
a
matter
of
trying
to
get
to
that.
That
point
of
you
know
with
with
all
the
sites
that
are
being
presented,
whether
the
commission
and
the
council
is
interested
in
rezoning
a
lot
of
sites
or
whether
they
want
to
concentrate.
A
Okay,
I
think
we
got
that
yeah.
I
think
the
concern
is,
if
we,
you
know
displacement's
inevitable,
but
if
we're
going
to
do
displacement,
we'd
better,
be
actually
gaining
a
significant
number
of
units,
not
just
you
know,
tearing
down
100
and
building
105
and
suddenly
you
know
the
rent
or
the
cost
go
goes
way
up,
because
these
are
nice
new
new
homes.
Absolutely.
A
S
S
It's
that
little
notch
in
the
lower
left
corner,
so
I
don't
think
that's
being
developed,
so
it
should
be
removed
from
the
list
and
this
particular
site.
The
triangle
by
280
is
a
public
storage
area
and
then
these
three
boxes
below
it
are
existing
parking,
two
two
story
apartments,
but
there's
only
one
tiny
little
road
that
everybody
in
this
apartment
complex
uses
to
get
out.
I
can't
imagine
you
putting.
S
I
think
you've
got
almost
three
hundred
one
two,
three,
approximately
300
units
in
there
with
multiple
drivers.
You
need
to
go
look
at
that
road,
and
this
is
a
very
people
in
the
housing
complex
use
that
in
its
school
to
get
the
back
way
into
lawson
and
collins,
yeah
and
and
the
sierra
junipero.
Sarah
trail
is
right
there
at
that
corner.
O
O
F
S
A
U
U
The
I
believe,
the
owner
of
that
apartment,
complex,
is,
is
essex,
property
trust
which
is
about
as
as
substantial
developers
as
you
can
have
in
the
bay
area.
I'm
curious
if
they've
expressed
interest
to
the
city
and
redeveloping
that
site
and
then,
secondly,
with
respect
to
the
self-storage
site
being
identified
for
future
housing.
As
you
know,
self-storage
in
the
bay
area
is,
is
a
gold
mine
and,
generally
speaking,
once
those
sites
are
built
out
there
there
are,
they
are
rarely
redeveloped.
U
So
I
was
curious
if
there
somehow
was
off
chance
that
there
was
it
was
owner
interest
in
that,
and
then
I
would
just
the
other
big
kind
of
global
question
is.
I
know
this
list
started
with
with
andy
identifying
every
site
in
cupertino
that
was
between
a
half
acre
and
10
acres,
and
now
we're
looking
at
this
refined
site
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what
the
methodology
was
and
what
what
amount
of
oversight
or
input
the
commission
or
the
council
had
in
refining
it
to
this
level.
U
A
D
Q
Oh
hi,
everybody,
yes,
guess
who's
the
lucky
person
who
has
the
unit
at
that
self
storage
me.
My
grandmother
actually
had
it
since
1971.,
I'm
not
real
happy
to
hear
that
that
may
be
redone
plus
they
just
jacked
up
the
rent.
I
was
wondering
why
I
got
it
rent
notice
anyway,
I'm
I
actually-
and
actually
my
parents
had
friends
that
lived
at
that
apartment
complex
in
the
1950s.
Q
Yes,
it's
old,
essex
just
recently,
redid
it,
because
I
actually
tried
to
rent
a
place
in
there.
When
I
was
before
I
bought
my
house,
I
was
coming
out
of
apartments
on
calvert
and
I
looked
in
there
possibly
to
live.
They
were
very
nice.
They
are
more
like
condos,
but
essex
spent
a
lot
of
money
to
upgrade
that
probably
eight
years
ago,
I
am
really
having
a
big
problem
with
us,
maybe
turning
people
out
of
existing
apartment
complexes.
I
have
four
elderly
relatives
that
we
may
need
to
move
into
the
area.
Q
Q
Not
everyone
has
that
problem.
I
need
a
car
because
I
have
to
drive
90
years
old
around.
I
can't
put
them
on
bikes.
Yes,
the
comment
about
the
tiny
road
going
down
to
that
apartment,
complex
and
the
the
storage
unit
that
is
an
on
and
off
ramp
when
that
overpass
was
put
in
with
280
there.
You
guys
need
to
take
a
look
at
that.
Also,
you
have
the
juniper
sarah
trail
going
immediately
adjacent
to
it.
There's
graffiti
all
over
the
place
there
yeah,
I
okay
hcd,
seems
to
want
to
kick
people
out.
Q
We
need
and
also
why.
Why
can't
hcd
give
us
one
consistent
set
of
plans
they
keep
sending
more
stuff
down.
We
got
that
bomb
of
the
sb9
thing.
What
else
are
they
going
to
be
telling
us?
You
know
and
believe
me,
I
don't
believe
that
threat
that
southern
california
is
being
rezoned
by
in
october.
That
is
no
way
that's
happening,
but
yeah
we
don't.
We
shouldn't
be
turning
people
out
of
apartment
complexes.
Thank
you.
W
Good
evening,
everyone
I
just
wanted
to
comment
since
we're
now
talking
about
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
budding
our
major
corridors
de
anza
and
stevens
creek.
I
I've
heard
community
members
express
a
strong
interest
in
really
maximizing
development
on
sites
that
are
close
to
transit,
and
I
agree
with
the
premise
that
if
you're
going
to
have
high
density,
you
absolutely
have
to
have
robust
transit.
W
W
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
run
very
often
so
it
doesn't
count
as
robust
transit,
but
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
work
with
bta-
and
you
know
in
conjunction
with
adding
more
housing
on
the
west
side,
so
that
our
east
side
neighborhoods
are
not
so
stretched
in
terms
of
trying
to
accommodate
people
for
recreation
and
and
and
sort
of
all
of
the
the
kinds
of
things
that
people
need
to.
You
know
really
thrive
in
their
communities.
W
W
Short
stay
rental,
or
sometimes
it's
just
left
vacant,
even
brand
new
units,
because
because
having
units
occupied
can
be
inconvenient
for
people
who
are
just
really
interested
in
holding
a
value
you
know
inside
of
real
estate,
they
know
that
the
property
being
valued
as
as
an
investment
rather
than
for
its
housing
use.
Thank
you.
X
Thank
you
chair
and
commissioners.
My
name
is
connie
cunningham
and
I
am
a
housing
commissioner,
speaking
for
myself,
only
I'm
quite
heartened
to
hear
other
residents
speaking
to
their
discomfort,
with
people
being
displaced
from
their
current
living
quarters,
because
we
think
we
can't
find
other
places
in
our
city
to
build
apartments.
X
Quite
frankly,
I
don't
know
all
of
them,
because
what
are
the
reasons,
for
instance,
for
not
including
these
mcclellan
sites
on
the
recommended
list,
where
we
have
several
other
very
nice
looking
sites
for
housing,
and
I
appreciate
that
very
much
that's
near
where
I
live,
and
I
couldn't
be
more
pleased
to
think
that
we
might
be
having
some
more
density
in
the
area,
and
so
that's
all
for
now.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
O
Working
through
a
number
of
analyses,
including
whether
or
not
something
was
recently
developed,
I
can
I
can
bring
up
the
screen.
This
is
a
perfect
conversation
for
us
to
have
for
reconsideration
of
areas,
and
we
see
within
the
there
are
a
number
of
of
areas
where
mcclellan
sites
could
certainly
be
reconsidered
to
go
through
that
extra
analysis.
We're
happy
to
do
that.
O
I
I
looked
more
closely
at
that
owner
interest
form
and
they
were
specific
about
the
site
next
door
to
the
storage,
we'll
need
to
reach
out
to
the
property
owner
to
determine
whether
or
not
it
is
inclusive
of
the
mini
storage
site
that
they're
thinking
about
wanting
to
learn
about
their
options
and
just
to
be
clear
about
that.
When
people
share
with
us
their
interest,
we
want
to
be
conscientious
about.
A
O
O
I
do
want
to
also
address
the
idea
of
incentives
and
and
mention
that,
as
we
move
forward
and
talk
about
policy,
that's
absolutely
going
to
be
a
part
of
our
process.
So
it's
going
to
be
helpful
for
us
to
understand
better
about
the
types
of
housing
that
gets
supported
by
the
planning
commission.
As
we
move
forward,
that's
going
to
better
inform
what
kinds
of
policies
and
programs
we
recommend
that,
combined
with
understanding
better
about
the
need
for
housing.
A
V
V
I
V
V
One
of
the
things
I
did
want
to
raise,
though,
because
it
falls
into
that
category
is
the
question
of
whether
or
not
we
can
actually
substantiate,
on
the
basis
of
substantial
evidence
that
certain
of
these
existing
apartment
complexes
will
actually
be
redeveloped
as
additional
housing.
During
the
course
of
the
production
period,
people
have
talked,
for
example,
at
length
about
the
hamptons.
We
raised
this
in
our
comment
letter.
V
The
issue
that
I
see
is
that
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
appetite
in
the
development
community
toward
replacing
existing
multi-family
housing,
at
least
rental
multi-family
housing.
We
don't
really
have
examples
of
that.
We
didn't
have
people
asking
in
the
general
plan
amendment
process
for
the
course
of
the
last
several
years
to
replace
existing
apartment
structures.
Almost
everything
that
we
have
seen
thus
far
has
been
on
existing
underutilized
commercial
space.
V
Those
spaces
are
by
and
large,
in
much
more
transit
oriented
parts
of
the
city
they're
on
stevens
creek,
boulevard,
they're.
On
de
anza,
boulevard,
etc,
etc,
so
re-examining
what
might
be
available
in
the
heart
of
the
city
strikes
me
as
the
best
balance
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
if
we
want
to
try
to
preserve
commercial
space
because
that's
really
important,
there
are
lots
of
different
policy
prescriptions
that
we
can
use
later
on.
In
order
to
try
to
make
that
happen.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll.
A
M
But
what
I
really
want
to
say
too
is
we
really
need
to
have
this
should
be
live?
There's
no
reason
we
couldn't
have
done.
This
meeting
live
in
council
chambers
with
the
big
screens.
So
when
people
put
up
maps
you
could
see
them,
you
know
we
really
need
to
get
away.
This
is
not
a
good
venue
for
this
kind
of
thing
at
all.
M
So
please
consider
that
for
the
next
time
I
I
wanted
to
find
out
if
we
could-
and
it
could
be
answered
later
when
we
can
expect
to
see
the
follow-up
mapping
exercise
in
balancing
act.
Leanna
crabtree
brought
up
the
transit
issue
and
what
I
say
is
you
know
what
comes
first,
the
chicken
or
leg?
If
you
build
housing,
where
there
isn't
adequate,
transit
transit
will
come
or
is
it?
You
have
wimpy
little
transit,
so
you're
not
allowed
to
build
housing
it.
It's
really
kind
of
once
again
a
ludicrous
thing.
M
M
We
have
the
marina
going
away.
We
have
another
one
on
wolf
that
if
kimko
really
wants
to
build
that
grocery
may
go
away
and
we
have
a
sprouts,
we
don't
have
any
groceries.
Oh
I
take
that
back,
there's
one
over
by
cvs
and
I
don't
know
the
name
of
it,
I'm
sorry
it's
and
yet
more
people,
less
retail,
essential
retail.
So
a
comment
like
that
sort
of
pushes
me
sideways
a
little
bit
when
you
know.
M
M
Y
Hello
yeah.
I
wanted
to
just
build
upon
lyanna's
comments.
I
I
think
that
it
was
a
really
great
point
that
we
should
be
working
with
vta
to
try
to
improve
some
of
the
transit
so
that
yeah
like
with
with
ralph
51,
and
I
I
think
the
concerns
around
whether
units
are
being
used
for
housing
or
not
that's
something
that
we
can
address
through
policies
so
like
with
homes
being
used
for
speculation
and
not
for
housing.
Y
A
A
The
legislators,
like
lyanna,
said
they
set
a
very
low
bar
as
to
what
constitutes
quality,
transit,
high
quality
transit,
and
if
we
build
more
housing
along
south
de
anza,
et
cetera,
yeah
there's
nothing.
You
know,
bus
routes
can
be
changed
very
easily.
It's
not
like
light
rail,
where
the
where
the
routes
are
fixed
for
the
long
term.
A
H
F
I
can
try
to
answer
that
question.
I
don't
andy
if
I
may
share
my
screen
just
to
point
out
the
property.
This
is
the
property
in
question.
I
believe
the
intent
is
simply
to
split
the
lot
in
two,
and
so
that
is
the
ultimate
goal
is
my
understanding,
but
we
do
have
to
check
on
general
plan.
You
know
whether
it
needs
a
general
plan
amendment
and
what
other
things
are
necessary
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
that.
But
I
believe
that
is
the
intent.
F
A
F
F
O
H
A
H
Just
here
one
more
one
more
thing:
I
just
recognized
on
the
north
planet
side.
I
I
have
traveled
on
that.
It's
a
it's
a
very
small
road
going
across
the
collins
and
then
those
apartments
when
you
put
so
many
dwellings
over
there
as
it
is
during
the
normal
times
that
road
is
kind
of
mostly
blocked
or
accepting
an
afternoon
you
put
in
so
many
different,
more
dwellings
out
there.
What
will
happen
there.
A
H
A
H
A
A
G
G
G
G
O
A
G
A
Q
J
A
A
Q
Okay,
all
right
folks,
we'll
get
ready
for
a
ride
here.
You
know.
I
know
this
is
fantastic,
but
you
don't.
This
is
like
the
sixth
meeting
I've
had
this
last
week
and
it's
all
housing
element.
You
know
have
some
pity
on
the
public.
Plus
I've
got
my
mother's
law,
god
news
in
santa
cruz
county
anyway,
so
yeah
heart
of
the
city.
I
I'm
really
having
a
problem
with
every
gas
station
in
the
area.
Okay,
you've
got
the
gas
station
at
blaney
and
stevens
creek
boulevard.
Q
Okay,
that's
like
the
only
one
in
the
entire
area.
I
use
that
one.
Please
don't
convert
it
to
housing.
Then
we've
got
the
gas
station
at
miller
and
stevens
creek
boulevard,
which
is
on
the
edge
of
the
united
furniture
property.
Please
don't
close
that
one.
That
is
the
only
gas
station
in
that
entire
area.
We
have
traffic
coming
through.
Yes,
people
do
drive
cars.
Q
We
have
people
driving
down
wolf
from
sunnyvale
up
to
saratoga
via
miller,
it's
a
very
hot
corridor.
I
had
a
car
my
car
broke
down
once
at
1am
and
that
gas
station
saved
me
because
I
didn't
have
a
cell
phone.
This
was
like
30
years
ago.
I
I'm
really
having
a
problem.
Oh
and
also
the
the
other
thing
is,
I
don't
know
if
we're
talking
about
it,
but
having
cupertino
village
like
go
away
that
it.
Q
You
know,
I
I'm
we
the
city
identified
about
five
years
ago,
vital
services,
okay
and
the
gas
stations
and
shopping
centers.
As
lisa
said,
you
have
seniors
who
need
medicine.
There
are
people
who
need
to
purchase
medicine.
You
cannot
close
shopping
places
that
have
we
have
no.
We
have
no
shopping.
I
shop
in
santa
cruz
as
much
as
I
can,
but
but
I'm
saying,
hcd
has
to
get
real.
They
cannot
shut
down
vital
services
in
our
city
and
I
am
calling
cortese
tomorrow
and
complaining
about
the
housing
element.
Q
Q
A
O
I'm
happy
to
share
again
the
screen.
It
did
go
by
pretty
quickly,
so
we're
we're
beginning
now
to
talk
about
the
special
area
sites.
So
these
are
sites.
These
are
areas
that
have
specific
plans
that
regulate
okay,
yes,
and
so
the
two
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
are
bub
road
and
the
whole
of
heart
of
the
city.
S
I
I
would
think
you'd
want
to
consider
that
also
on
heart
of
the
city,
the
the
intersection
of
laney
and
stevens
creek,
the
alliance
gas
station,
you
have
marked-
and
I
echo
everybody's
input-
that
is
a
key
gas
station,
all
the
neighborhoods
south
of
there
and
north
of
there
stop
at
that
gas
station.
It's
one
of
the
cheapest
it.
S
I
think
it
is
the
cheapest
in
cupertino
and
the
76
station
at
wolf
and
stevens
creek
is
one
of
the
few
places
on
the
east
side
that
you
can
get
your
car
fixed,
so
gas
stations
are
critical
and
I
think
that
we're
not
doing
stuff.
Okay,
that's
all
I've
got.
Thank
you!
Oh
no!
Yes,
you
don't
doing
homestead.
Yet,
okay.
A
M
Thanks
again
so
peggy's
coming
about
the
pizza
hut
and
then
there's
also
fontana's,
which
has
been
vacant
for
a
very
long
time.
I
wish
I
mean
it's
a
nice
building.
I
wish
something
would
become
of
it,
but
it's
not
so
I'm
not.
I
don't
think
that
that
was
identified
as
one
of
the
parcels
and
I'm
not.
I
don't
know
why
there
could
be
very
good
reason,
but
it
would
be
good
to
look
into
that.
M
So
I
keep
hearing
just
in
general,
I
keep
hearing.
We
can
mitigate
this.
We
can
deal
with
this
stuff
if
we
do
this
like,
if
we
have
the
vacancy
tax,
which
several
people
have
asked
to
have
happen
and
get
that
ball
rolling
and
as
far
as
I
know,
there's
no
movement
on
it.
Yet
it'd
be
great
if
we
could
but
and
then
places
could
put
limits
on
how,
when
their
condos
or
whatever
and
they're
for
sale
the
percentage
of
units
that
can
be
rented
in
a
percentage
that
must
be
owner
occupied.
M
So
unless
you
have
these
things
in
place
prior
to
assigning
these
properties
with
density
and
this
that
and
the
other
in
this
process,
you
know
we
could
do
multiple
things,
but
if
they
don't
happen
and
we're
already
locked
in
to
a
situation,
that's
presented
and
approved
by
hcd,
it's
not
helpful.
Those
things
have
to
be
in
place
and
they
have
to
be
guaranteed.
M
X
Thank
you
again
chair.
I
wanting
to
talk
about
the
basically
the
same
one
that
a
couple
of
other
speakers
have
talked
about,
which
is
the
former
fontanas
restaurant,
on
stevens
creek
across
from
whole
foods,
and
also
the
former
pizza
hut
and
then
another
site,
but
I
note
that
the
former
fontana's
restaurant,
which
has
been
empty
for
a
while,
it's
on
the
list
of
not
recommended.
X
So
I
was
wondering
why
not
and
have
we
approached
the
owner,
then
the
former
pizza
hut
is
just
one
one
more
place
down:
it's
not
on
either
list.
It's
not
recommended,
and
it's
not
not
recommended.
So
why
and
have
we
approached
the
owner
and
then
sitting
in
between
those
two
properties
is
staples.
It's
store.
That's
been
there
for
some
time.
X
It's
on
the
list
of
not
recommended,
and
I
understand
that
it's
a
business
but
have
we
approached
the
owner
due
to
its
location?
It
could
be
more
merged
with
those
other
two
and
very
make
a
very
nice
property
for
first
for
some
for
significant
housing
there
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
oh.
They
lost
their
whatever.
They
can't
do
business
in
cupertino.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
that
what
are
the
incentives
that
we
can
use
to
to
do
something
like
that?
P
Thank
you,
yeah,
we'll
just
reiterate
comments
around
some
of
those
some
economies
comments
around
those
sites
for
consideration
and
again
would
encourage
the
commission
to
really
lean
into.
I
think
pugh's
earlier
comment
around
the
trade-off
between
you
know,
observing
fewer
sites
versus
like
distributing
mild
upzoning
throughout
the
community,
and
I
understand
some
of
the
pushback
around
that,
like
maybe
some
commissioners,
don't
view
transit
or
bus
as
like
a
robust
transit.
P
I
I
think
just
would
want
to
comment
that,
like
even
under
current
conditions,
the
de
anza
bus
stop
is
arguably
up
in
the
9
to
10.
Most
frequently
used
stops
in
the
entire
service
area
vta,
and
that
only
increases
and
plus
it's
just
a
really
underutilized
form
of
transit,
and
it's
just
should
be
honestly
just
up
there
just
as
much
with
light
rail
in
certain
circumstances.
P
So
I
I
think
I
I
would
just
for
the
community
at
least
like
try
not
to
discount
bus
just
based
on
reputation
that
it
gets
in
the
us.
I
don't
think
that's
fair
and
yeah.
I
encourage
the
commission
to
really
take
a
look
at
these
central
sites
that
are
along
a
pretty
major
transit
corridor
and
hope
we
can
kind
of
build
up
here
and
you
know,
do
mixed
use
and
find
an
opportunity
to
have
good
projects
here.
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you
sharp
I'll
echo
a
lot
of
what
sean
just
mentioned.
One
of
the
things
to
think
about,
too,
is
just
that
bus
routes,
though
they
certainly
can
be
changed,
don't
change
very
frequently.
There
is
a
low
service
bus
route.
That's
about
100
feet
from
my
front
door
on
bollinger
road.
It
hasn't
changed
over
40
years.
Bta
doesn't
seem
to
be
very
interested
in
changing
its
stops,
whether
they're,
adding
them
or
taking
them
away,
if
you're,
adding
additional
density.
That
is,
though,
a
reason
for
them
to
increase
service
along
those
lines.
V
It
would
make
certainly
stevens
creek
boulevard
a
lot
more
attractive
for
folks
who
want
to
use
transit
with
respect
to
some
of
the
sites
that
are
listed
in
this
planning
area.
There
are
some
that
that
appeared
in
the
fifth
rhena
cycle,
housing
element
and
there
is
a
specific
prescription
in
the
government
code
with
regard
to
the
reuse
of
a
non-vacant
site
that
that
it
was
in
in
immediately
prior
housing
element.
V
The
hcd
site
inventory
guidebook
handles
this
at
pages
11
to
15..
It
does
require
the
creation
of
a
buy
right
approval
process
for
certain
types
of
housing
projects.
On
those
sites,
and
that
may
influence
exactly
what
you
which
sites
you
want
to
consider
and
why-
and
it
would
probably
be
helpful
for
the
planning
staff
to
to
go
over
exactly
how
they
want
to
address
that
particular
requirement
with
you,
so
that
you
can
address
it
with
open
eyes.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
jr
yeah,
the
the
by
right.
You
know,
I've
been
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
you
know
reusing
sites,
it's
like
well,
you
know
the
property
owner
isn't
building
now,
because,
even
though
they
have
an
approved
project
because
the
market
conditions
don't
warrant
it,
so
even
if
it
were
by
right,
I'm
not
sure
that
would
encourage
them
any
more
than
you
know.
They
have
an
approved
project.
They
can
build
if
it's
by
right,
they
can
still
build
so
pew.
What
is
the
you
know?
O
Them
that
is
why
we
we
so
that's
the
first
question
I
wanted
to
answer.
There
was
a
question
about
whether
or
not
property
owners
have
been
contacted.
All
property
owners
with
with
sites
between
half,
acre
and
10
acres
were
sent
a
letter,
so
we
did
not
hear
back
from
these
property
owners
and
so
our
so
our
initial
intention
was
to
take
it
off
unless
we
do
hear
otherwise.
F
The
property
in
question
the
fontanas
building,
if
I
might
share
my
screen,
just
to
explain
our
thinking
a
little
bit
fontana's
actually
shares
part
of
that
lot
shares
the
parking
lot
with
the
staples
right
building
and
the
pizza
hut
lot
is
way
over
here.
So
there's
no
way
to
really
merge
those
two
and
without
losing
some
of
the
parking
that's
associated
with
the
bigger
shopping
center
over
there
with
party
city,
etc.
B
A
A
I
mean,
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
on
this
list
of
properties.
You
know
like
to
have
an
asterisk,
and
that
says
you
know.
Property
owner
has
not
expressed
an
interest
because
when
it
says
when
it
says
not
recommended
it's
almost
sounds
like
oh
yeah,
the
property
owner
was
interested,
but
the
city
is
saying
or
emc
is
saying,
we
don't
recommend
it,
and
that's
that's
not
really.
You
know
what
not
recommended
means.
A
W
Good
evening
again,
just
a
couple
of
quick
comments
or
questions
so,
like
others
have
expressed.
I'm
I'm
also
disappointed
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
interest
in
bug,
bub
wrote
or
or
no
interest,
but
I'm
wondering
next
to
bob
rhode,
jason.
If
there's
any
interest
along,
for
example,
imperial
avenue
or
even
that
end
of
stevens
creek
boulevard,
that's
on
the
other
side
of
85,
it
seems
like
there's
some
low
development
there
and
and
some
commercial
areas.
W
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
been
any
outreach
on
imperial
avenue
and
just
a
brief
comment
about
you-
know:
bus
travel
being
underappreciated.
I
I
really
agree
a
speaker
earlier
mentioned
that
and-
and
in
fact
I
I
have
to
really
applaud
bta.
They
they've
really
made
some
incremental
improvements
that
actually
has
made
it
easier
for
folks
living
on
the
west
side
to
get
other
places
beside
san
jose
and
I'd
just
like
to
specifically
call
out
the
changes
to
route
523.
That
now
goes
to
sunnyvale.
W
So
it
does
address
that
north
south
and
again,
you
know.
Bus
travel
is
under
appreciated
in
this
area,
because
we've
really
just
sold
it
very
badly.
You
know
it
doesn't
run
often
enough.
It's
too
much
wait
time
too
much
time
in
between
or
it
just
doesn't
go
when
people
want
to
go
or
where
they
want
to
go
and
and
those
things
can
be
improved
and
and
then
I
think
we
can
unlock
more
areas
in
our
community
for
for
housing.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
that
you
know
that's
a
good
point.
Just
nothing
would
stop
vta
from
doing
you
know.
What's
absent.
Now
is
a
lot
of
routes
that
go
north
south
from
saratoga
cupertino
out
to
the
jobs-rich
areas,
and
hopefully
you
know
in
the
future.
Vta
will
look
into
that
anyway.
Next
is
janet
van
zoran
welcome.
T
Hello,
I
concur
with
with
so
many
others
who
have
already
spoken
with
regard
to
the
stevens
creed
corridor.
I
was
really
hoping
that
you'd
be
able
to
get
a
lot
more
dense
housing
in
that
area
and
also
on
the
that
strip
of
bubb
road
between
mcclellan
and
stevens
creek.
That
seems
like
a
prime
area.
It's
too
bad
they're
you're
not
seeing
much
interest
there.
T
That
will
replace
affordability,
that's
commensurate
so
that
those
people
that
are
being
displaced
have
the
potential
of
finding
housing
again
here
within
cupertino,
because
if
it
turns
out
that
you
have
a
surplus
which
is
hard
to
imagine
at
this
point.
But
if
you
do,
then,
maybe
when
you're
deciding,
which
which
units
to
remove
from
the
list
at
the
end
of
this
whole
process,
you
could
be
using
that
as
one
of
the
factors.
Thank
you.
Z
Z
You
know,
bus
is
just
fine
and
that's
why
you
know
stevens
creek
boulevard
would
be
an
excellent
place
to
locate
much
more
senior
housing.
I'm
not
talking
about
affordable
senior
housing,
I'm
talking
about
just
senior
friendly
housing,
because
if
you're
downsizing,
you
have
a
large
home
that
you
can
trade
in
or
rent
and
move
on
to
another
rental,
and
I
just
think
that
we
have
focused
too
much
on
what's
happening
in
our
schools,
saying
we
want
more
families,
but
not
recognizing.
Z
M
You
know
I'm
I'm
like
so
confused.
I
may
have
already
spoke
to
this
one,
but
just
east
estates,
the
united
furniture
and
the
gas
station
across
the
street,
which
is
the
most
expensive
gas
station
in
the
county.
Probably
those
are
both.
Those
are
where
I
was
alluding
to
the
the
east
estates
used
to
have
a
dry
cleaner,
where
the
united
furniture
is.
There
was
a
dry
cleaner
there
and
almost
certain
years
ago,
and
then
the
gas
station
across
the
street
has
a
big,
auto
maintenance.
M
You
know
repair
plus
the
gas
station
gas
tanks,
so
those
are
two
of
the
properties
I
was
alluding
to
earlier
when
we
were
talking
about
trying
not
to
have
the
cost
of
a
major
cleanup
and
those
properties
have
been
for
sale
for
over
two
years
and
no
one's
that
I
know
of
has
even
made
an
offer.
So
I
don't
know
about
those-
and
I
keep
hearing
the
word
well.
M
If
an
own,
I
would
argue
that
if
you
send
out
one
letter
or
one
email
to
someone
who
I've
seen
some
of
these
lists
and
they're
not
horribly
comprehensive
on
who
these
messages
are
going
to,
but
I
would
argue
that
if
you
send
out
one
letter
and
you
do
not
get
a
response,
that
does
not
mean
they're
not
interested,
they
may
not
have
seen
it.
They
might
have
understood
it,
because
the
subject
matter
was
whack-a-doodle.
M
M
So
I
would
appreciate
if
a
bigger
effort,
not
just
in
community
input
from
residents
but
property
owners
is,
is
exercised
and
really
trying
to
get
those
people
to
say
no,
who
says
if
they,
I
don't
know
you
know,
if
you
don't
get
an
answer.
How
do
you
know
if
it's
yesterday,
so
I
think
that's
a
big
problem,
especially
in
the
heart
of
the
city,
where
it's
a
long
stretch
and
every
inch
of
it
needs
to
be.
M
Considered
so
don't
take
a
non-answer
for
a
no
answer.
I
guess
is
the
bottom
line
of
that
and
then
there's
constantly
well,
I
constantly
there's
been
many
comments
about
mixed
use,
but
you
know
what
again
that
would
be
nice,
but
there's
no
guarantee
that
these
property
owners
who
are
willing
to
build
housing
are
going
to
want
mixed
use.
M
A
You
thank
you
lisa
yeah.
Those
are
good
points
about
mixed
use.
You
know
I've
lived
here
long
enough
to
seen
a
lot
of
stuff
torn
down
with
mixed
use,
put
up
and
the
mixed
use,
just
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
rent
the
property
owner
never
wanted
to
do
mixed
use.
They
were
forced
into
it
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
say:
hey.
We
can't
rent
this
out
as
retail.
Can
we
put
in
medical
or
can
we
put
in
restaurants?
A
And
you
know
you
have
things
that
are
just
you
know
like
the
target
at
main
street,
it's
very
hard
to
rent
out
a
lot
of
retail
in
these
mixed
use.
There's
not
enough
parking
and
there's
not
enough
foot
traffic
to
make
the
mixed-use
retail
successful.
I
mean
we
lost
the
bull
linger
lost
a
bunch
of
stuff
at
blaney
and
stevens
creek.
I
forget
the
name
of
that
complex
metropolitan.
A
H
F
F
That
that's
exactly
what
I
said
I
mean
we
don't
know.
You
know
from
a
practical
perspective,
you
know
facing
east
having
retail
facing
east
states
probably
does
not
make
sense,
but
you
know
facing
stevens
creek.
As
I
mentioned
in
the
heart
of
the
city,
there
are
requirements
to
have
commercial
developments
that
do
generate
foot
traffic.
F
With
that
said,
there
is
density,
bonus
law
that
developers
can
use
in
order
to
get
relief
from
those
requirements,
but
our
standard
requirements
would
be
that
they
would
be
required
to
put
in
some
form
of
retail,
how
much,
how
little
we're
not
designing
the
project
right
now.
But
you
know,
of
course
that
is
something
that
the
commission
and
council
can
consider
in
terms
of
how
much
to
be
incorporated
or
replaced
on
site.
O
S
Okay,
the
map
that
was
in
the
attachment
did
not
have
if
you're
looking
at
the
intersection
of
stelling
and
homestead
and
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
the
shopping
center.
That
has
the
mcdonald's
and
the
bowling
alley,
and
I
was
going
to
make
sure
that
that
particular
the
bowling
alley
parcel
at
least,
would
be
a
good
site.
The
other
two,
the
smaller
ones,
are
a
lot
of
retail
shops
or
that
that
the
area
people
use
anyway.
That's
all
I
had
thank
you.
A
Q
Thank
you
andy.
Could
you
put
that
previous
map
up
that
you
just
had
for
the
previous
griffin,
the
one
on
the
homestead?
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions.
What
is
that
I
see
the
the
the
right
side
of
it?
I
see
where
the
cupertino
hotel
is,
and
then
is
all
that
on
the
right
is
that
the
bj's
and
next
to
the
apple,
the
the
older
apple
headquarters,
what
what
is
that
on
the
right
there
before
homestead
road,
the
the
the
bunch
of
purple,
I
can.
Q
Q
Okay,
well,
that's
what
I'm
wondering
what
would
that's
new?
What
would
what
are
they
planning
on
doing
their
infill
and
I'm
very
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
what's
going
on
over
there?
Also,
you
know
that
section
next
to
sunnydale
the
other
purple
blob
a
lot
of
that.
The
the
part
that's
on
the
east
part
of
that
is
really
really
active.
Retail
and
I
you
know,
that's
a
that's
a
gateway
into
cupertino
from
sunnyvale.
Q
Q
I
go
up
and
down
el
camino
90
of
the
time,
because
I
can't
find
any
consistent
stores
in
my
city
and
you
know,
and
I'm
really
getting
ticked,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
dump
on
hcd
again
hcd
has
to
get
with
the
program
and
get
real
and
understand
that
they
are
causing
massive
upheaval
for
people
in
this
state
and
we're
not
gonna
stand
for
it.
I
I
really
do
not
want
my
retail
cut.
Q
I
have
a
hard
enough
time
trying
to
deal
with
issues
in
my
life
with
four
seniors
that
are
all
over
87
years
old
in
different
cities,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
having
to
drive
to
sunnyvale
to
try
to
shop
for
food
when
I'm
home
so
get
real
hcd.
I'm
sorry
you're
the
one
that's
causing
this
problem.
Thank
you.
F
A
A
V
Yeah,
I
just
thought
I
hadn't
originally
planned
to
speak
on
this
one,
but
at
least
share
some
information
that
I
was
able
to
find
out
earlier
with
regard
to
the
aviary.
So
if
you
simply
wanted
to
know
it
does
currently
have
about
140
units-
or
at
least
that
was
the
the
number
that
was
quoted
to
me
when
I
called
them
earlier
today.
V
U
U
The
good
news
is
is
that
one
of
the
owners
of
the
center
is
an
actual
developer,
but
relative
to
the
state
and
hcd
and
their
checklist
of
the
ability
to
develop
in
the
next
eight
years.
You
know
you've
got
leases
in
that
center.
That
currently
run
I'm
sure
the
bowling
doesn't
have
a
long-term
lease,
but
the
ccnrs
could
be
a
potential
impediment.
U
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
that
is
it
for
attendees.
Let's
bring
it
back
to
the
panelists,
the
commission.
Does
anyone
wish
to
speak
on
this?
I
think
I
had
a
no,
so
andy
did
we
already,
maybe
I'm
going
crazy.
We
already
talked
about
the
cupertino
village
area
right,
homestead
and
miller,
I'm
right,
homestead
and
wolf.
O
P
A
A
A
D
H
I
just
did
a
question
on
this
homestead
keymap
id21.
I
think
I
saw
the
on
the
map
this
via
perisso
complex.
It's
apartment,
complex,
it's
like
somebody
said
just
before
me.
The
the
question
I
have
is
that
are
increasing
the
number
of
units
density
from
20
to
85
I
mean
is
there
is
some
implicit
parking
assumption
here
or.
A
F
D
A
R
Yeah
so
I'll
respond
to
the
commissioner
about
the
the
dwell,
the
density
and
the
dwelling
units.
If
you
can
go
up
to
that
that
high
of
a
density
you're
going
to
be
doing
a
garage
at
that
point-
and
you
know
certainly
in
cupertino,
where
you're
typically
gonna
have
one
and
a
half
to
two
cars
per
unit.
At
least
that's
a
it's
an
impediment
to
development,
but
for
that
high
of
density,
it
might
be
possible.
A
Yeah,
you
know,
even
though
you
know
state
law
may
allow
the
property
owners
to
reduce
or
eliminate
parking.
The
reality
is
that
you
know
you
couldn't
you
know
you
couldn't
lease
or
sell
something
without
sufficient
parking.
You
know
at
the
kind
of
rents
that
they're
expecting
to
get
so
they
would
have
to
do
garages.
I
guess
that's.
R
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It
seems
like
that
would
be
an
area
that
should
be
explored
and
us
bank
just
closed,
so
the
whole
site
is
empty
if
one
were
to
jump
on
it
anyway.
No,
that's
and-
and
I
agree
with
mayor
chair
scharf,
that
the
very
south,
the
anza
area,
maybe
should
look,
be
looked
at
a
little
bit
closer
or
the
property
owners
tweaked
again
to
see.
If
maybe
they
you
know,
talk
to
a
real
person
anyway.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin,
my
husband,
actually
grew
up
in
the
neighborhood
behind
the
where
the
police
department
is
back
there.
You
know
we
drive
through
there.
Quite
often,
people
have
to
remember
that
a
lot
of
that
land
down
there
was
flipped
in
1976
the
homes
went
into
cupertino,
they
had
been
in
san
jose
and
then
san
jose
got
a
lot
of
our
retail.
Q
Q
So
it's
not
only
hcd
that
we've
got
to
worry
about
is
san
jose
is
being
choked
with
their
housing
element.
They've
got
like
50
000
they're,
going
to
rezone
that
whole
area
too.
We
haven't
I'm
trying
to
get
that
information
now
to
know
which
areas,
because
we're
on
the
border
here
are
going
to
be
san
jose
is
going
to
be
rezoning
too.
I
mean
hcd
is
just
coming
at
us
with
their
guns.
I
I
am
so
ticked
at
the
way
this
state
is
run
anyway.
That
is
something
we're
trying
to
find
out
right
now.
Q
Can
you,
and
also,
if
I
remember
correctly,
that
area
by
the
police
department?
There
is
a
restriction,
because
oak
trees
were
cut
down
and
they
have
that
property
came
up
before
there
is
a
heritage
tree
ordinance
that
that
there
are.
There
are
trees
that
have
to
be
retained.
On
that
property.
I
hate
to
bring
that
up,
but
even
hcd
cannot
cut
down
our
oak
trees.
Andy.
Can
you
put
up
the
next
map?
I
I
the
one.
Q
F
Q
Okay,
and
as
long
as
they're,
not
gunning
for
the
gas
station
there,
that's
where
the
car
was
hijacked
recently
yeah
I'd
have
problems
with
that
with
us
losing
there's
medical
offices.
I
think
back
in
there,
because
my
husband's
dentist
was
there.
I
think
you
had
one
other
map
that
it
wasn't
down
on
south
danza.
It
was
some
other
area.
That's
the
lot
right
there
that
had
the
tree,
the
oak
restriction
on
it.
We
went
through
that
before
you
guys
might
want
to
research
that
anyway,
what
was
the
other
site?
Q
Yeah
yeah,
so
the
taco
bell
yeah.
Oh
well,
goodbye
taco,
bell,
yeah!
I
you
know
that
south
danza
boulevard
thing
there's
so
many
sites
in
there
that
are
shared
with
san
jose,
we're
we're
just
gonna
get
nailed.
I
I
yeah,
I,
oh
it's
not
san
jose's
problem.
It's
you
know.
I
lay
the
blame
on
hcd
I'll
shut
up.
Thank
you.
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I
realize
that
you're
focused
on
identifying
sites
for
development-
and,
I
believe,
was
john
zhao
talked
earlier
about
you
know
with
policy
we
can
address
the
concerns
about
making
sure
that
housing
that
is
built
is
actually
used
for
housing
purposes
and
not
just
as
investment
vehicles,
but
I
think
it's
really
hard
to
digest
the
maps
and
the
charts
in
isolation
that
we
have
to
understand.
First
of
all,
what
how
is
our
current
housing
supply
being
used?
How
how
much
of
the
housing
supply
is
really
being
used
for
housing?
How
much
of
it
is
vacant?
W
And
I
don't
know
how
we
do
that
without
actually
doing
a
comprehensive
audit.
We
could
go
ahead
and
build
all
these
new
housing
units,
but
if
we
actually
have
available
housing
existing,
that
seems
like
the
easiest
I
mean
and
fastest
way
to
actually
get
people
into
homes
is.
If
we
can
incentivize
the
housing
to
be
used
for
housing,
so
I
I
would
just
in
in
in
as
a
whole
package,
can
we
please
be
talking
about
a
housing
audit?
W
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A
F
A
Okay,
I
I
mean
what
is
the
reason
that
an
owner
would
prefer
to
keep
something
empty
than
to
build,
something
that
they
could
get
money
for.
I
just
are
they
hoping
that
they
are
going
to
get
commercial
office
space
in
the
future
high
rises,
or
you
know
what
you
know
and
the
same
with
bub
road
you
know:
are
they
holding
out
thinking
they're
going
to
get
you
know,
high-rise
class,
a
office
or
or
what
is
the
incentive
to
not
apply
to
be
a
housing
site.
F
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A
R
I
just
want.
I
just
want
to
say
that
in
the
city
of
el
cerrito,
they've
had
the
same
problem
with
having
empty
with
having
empty
storefronts,
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
that
some
of
them
are
long
time
owned
and
the
owners
have
property,
13,
proposition,
13
rights
on
them,
and
the
cost
of
ownership
is
so
low
that
there's
less
hassle
not
having
a
tenant-
and
I
know
el
cerrito
and
some
other
cities
have
taken
measures
from
a
policy
standpoint
to
try
to
fix
that
in
terms
of
levying
attacks
on
empty
storefronts,
etc.
A
Yeah
I
mean
perhaps
the
city
council
should
take
up
empty
storefronts.
I
mean
I've
been
reading
about
the
vacancy
taxes
in
vancouver
and
some
other
cities,
and
they
have
not
had
a
huge
effect.
They've
had
a
minor
effect
on
reducing
the
number
of
in
vancouver,
it's
like
foreign
owned
and
that
kind
of
fixed
itself,
because
the
country
where
most
of
the
foreign
owners
were
coming
from
is
not
allowing
that
capital
to
leave
anymore,
but
an
empty
storefront
tax
that
that
would
be
interesting.
U
Hi
there
just
a
really
quick
point.
I
I
think
if
you
look
at
cupertino
as
a
city,
you
could
say
the
main
thoroughfares
are
stevens
creek
and
de
anza,
and
I
think,
with
the
except
exception
of
the
county-owned
property,
that's
the
former
outback
steakhouse
and
the
marina
foods,
which
is
a
pipeline
project.
I
think,
as
you
get
south
of
stevens
creek
along
de
anza,
I
think
there
is
it
just.
It
feels
like
a
lot
of
those
properties
have
potentially
been
overlooked.
U
I
mean
I,
with
the
exception
of
the
the
part
of
the
parcel,
that's
the
sheriff's
station
and
the
the
liquor
store
at
prospect.
There's
not
a
whole
lot
there.
That
might
be
because
owner
outreach
hasn't
been
successful.
I
think
also
in
terms
of
owner
outreach.
Commissioner
sheriff
you
talked
about
bub
road,
I
mean.
If
one
letter
is
going
out,
I
mean
these
property
owners
oftentimes
receive
you
know
multiple
letters,
etc.
P
U
U
It
also
includes
the
two
parcels
that
are
the
yellow
duplex,
and
so
I
think
I
you
know
obviously
you're
working
with
a
lot
of
sites,
but
the
congruency
of,
what's
shown
to
the
public
pre-meeting
versus
what
the
city's
actually
working
off
of
is
important,
because
that
owner
owns
a
total
of
four
parcels
and
what
was
shown
on
the
agenda
package
was
only
two
and
I'm
not
sure.
I
don't
know
how
the
taco
bell
area
was
parceled
out
in
terms
of
of
sights
that
we
went
through
tonight.
U
A
Hey,
thank
you,
scott
and
I,
I
guess
you're
an
old
timer
since
you
keep
calling
it
highway
nine
it.
It
confuses
some
people
that
you
know
now
it
has
now.
It
has
three
names.
I
guess
deanza
saratoga
sunnyvale
sunnyvale
saratoga,
and
that
was
an
excellent
point
about
the
outreach
yeah
you
can
get
a
letter.
Someone
will
think
it's
junk
mail
and
throw
it
away
for
the
really
prime
places
that
we
could
be
looking
at
on
south
deanza
and
bub,
and
you
know
fontanas
and
pizza
hut.
A
A
H
F
H
A
Yeah
thanks
sanjeev
and
you
bring
up
a
good
point
about
rental
versus
for
sale.
We
get
a
lot
more
bmr
with
for
sale,
so
I
wonder
andy
when
these
owners
have
expressed
an
interest
in
being
a
housing
element
site.
Do
we
ask,
are
they
interested
in
rentals
or
for
sale
and
is
it
condos
or
town
homes
or
row
homes,
or
you
know,
do
we
do
we
have
any
clarity
on
what
they're
planning
to
build.
O
We
do
have
some
clarity,
we
do
ask
some
questions
and
we
also
collect
contact
information
so
that
we
can
have
a
have
a
more
nuanced
discussion
and
I
also
want
to
bring
up.
We
will
have
opportunities
when
we
think
about
rezoning.
If
there
are
sites
where
we
know
that
there
could
be
an
increased
density,
there
could
be
opportunities
like
overlay
zones
that
that
that
maybe
potentially
could
increase
the
percentage
of
affordability.
A
Okay,
yeah
and
again,
I
would
encourage
encourage
you
to
reach
out
again
to
some
of
these
prime
sites
like
pizza,
hut,
fontanas,
south
de
anza,
u.s
bank.
You
know
a
lot
of
those
are
prime
sites
and
yeah.
The
owners
may
just
have
ignored
the
first
contact
from
the
city,
and
then
I
had
one
other
question,
because
scott
connolly
mentioned
the
outback
site.
F
G
A
A
F
On
the
rental
versus
ownership,
bmr
requirements,
I
did
want
to
add.
Yes,
the
percentage
is
different.
However,
the
rental
unit
bmr
units
would
have
deeper
affordability
as
compared
to
the
ownership
units.
Rental,
bmr.
Affordability
is
for
lower
income
and
very
low
low
and
very
low
income
groups,
while
the
ownership
is
for
moderate
and
median
income
groups.
A
A
A
O
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
you
that,
yes,
we
can
commit
to
reaching
out
again
to
the
prime
sites
and
the
corridors.
We
certainly
heard
that
loud
and
clear
and
maybe
even
a
combination
of
of
another
postcard,
and
we
first
sent
out
a
letter,
but
we
also
sent
out
a
postcard
to
all
property
owners.
So
I
I
think
we
can
certainly
focus
on
the
web
road
and
de
anza
corridors
and,
along
with
with
some
other
prime
sites
that
were
brought
up
today,.
O
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
share
what
our
next
steps
are.
I
mentioned
it
earlier,
but
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
us
moving
forward
with
with
a
second
iteration
for
our
balancing
act
and
to
pair
that,
together
with
with
what
we
do
with
our
website,
where
we
have
surveys
specific
to
each
individual
site,
so
that
we
can
gather
comments,
questions
additional
information
so
that
we
can
carry
all
of
that
forward
to
the
next
council
meeting.
D
H
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Z
H
And
the
teen
commission
also
has
going
to
be
having
a
a
carrier
center
within
the
library
and
a
business
discussion
center
yeah
so,
and
I
reported
based
on
the
seven
new
projects
we
were.
We
had
discussed
in
the
last
meeting
related
to
the
there
are
some
of
them
being
being
hired
for
the
consult
content.
They
are
in
proposal
phase
like
having
a
garage
behind
the
library
and
all
these
things.