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The Dearborn Heights City Council Meeting taking place Tuesday September 26th, 2023 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.

A

All right good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the September 26 2023 regular meeting of the Dearborn Heights city council. um Madame Claire can please take roll call.

B

Here, Hassan.

B

We'll be doing here, Nancy Breyer, here, Robert constant here in time, wentzel here thank.

A

You very much our Pledge of Allegiance is going to be led by another Detroit Lions fan, Mike Blackburn, wow, I'm, partial, obviously pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

A

Next, up uh is item number three Council.

C

Chair councilman I move that to Dearborn Heights city council approve the agenda of the regular meeting of September 26 2023 as submitted or.

A

Okay, motion Me by councilman, Bay, Dune and seconded by councilman, constant, any discussion on that.

A

None hearing, none all in favor, please State aye aye. Those opposed the eyes have it motion carried next agenda is our Council vacancy appointment. Now before we begin, if you don't mind, councilman I just want to tell some of those members in the audience and, uh of course, the candidates in general.

A

How we're going to be uh doing this there's going to be a motion to uh nominate all of the candidates. It can be one motion made by one of the council members. So this way everybody's automatically nominated from there. The clerk is going to take roll call as to what each council member will be, who they will be voting for. So let's just choose a random name: Jane Doe, okay.

A

So if councilman Tom wanso says Jane Doe and then you know there's two uh in this case, it's gonna be three out of five, because there's five council members here. So if I'm sorry there's.

D

Five levels.

A

C

E

Is that how have to check with the parliamentarian the ones that done the training Coco's Replacements, that it has to be for? Has the majority of the total not specific to three out of five? We did a five presidents, okay,.

E

It's under vac, it's under Section, 4.5 billion vacancies, yeah I got it too, and.

B

So I just said: it's a it's, not a simple majority. It's the like a three right.

E

Does it say simple, other cities specify they'll say you know five a present the majority present it doesn't.

A

E

That so they said they have to defer correct.

A

And myself and the clerk uh had a conversation about this in in clearly uh like you're saying just as the majority. The only thing is if in in my particular opinion, um it would not be the majority and not that matters either way, but would not be the majority of the total Council body, because, based on that theory, then somebody that's not here can possibly vote, because they are part of that Council body and since they can't vote, they cannot be a part of the majority.

A

It would be the majority that are here right because, because with that theory, we would vote as a majority on every other item on any agenda during any month and in in all of our dealings at the end of the day, even though the parliamentarian may say that, and that is the Robert's Rules of Order in all of the way a council body uh operates is attend a day based on the way their Council body as a body prefer to operate unless it's stated in the charter and because it is not stated in the charter, and we have always voted on all items on all agendas based on the body.

A

That's there to me. That's the way. We've always done it and that's the way it should be done unless it's in a chartered otherwise, but just the parliamentarian to me would not be enough. Honestly, no.

E

Well, I think what when we say, the poem return, the one who trained us on it and if you look at other cities, other cities designate. This is just fulfilling vacancies on the 4.5 in the charter. Now other cities have in their Charter. They designate okay majority at the council meeting correct fulfilling vacancies, not for what you do with other votes and things like that.

A

In our so when.

F

E

At when I spoke with them this afternoon, we were checking out the issue. What do other cities go? My opinion is going to be. It has to be the full sets that are that are here. Okay, so you would need four one candidate would need four, not three. That's my recommendation. If you choose to follow it or not, all I could do is say that, but if someone appeals it takes it to the circle, whatever right.

A

Right no I.

E

Understand but I'm.

A

Just saying I did.

E

Not yeah I know or make it out and, like I said they said what that says, the language it's the majority right, total.

A

But the only thing I'm making clear is it's: it's still just an opinion. It's not necessarily in the charter. That's what we'd have to do so. Therefore, at.

E

The end of the charter says majority: it.

A

Says majority I recognize that what I'm saying Roger, what I'm saying it's no different than anything else on the agenda like let's say last week, for example, when we voted it was not the majority of the total Council. It's the majority of the people that are in the council, but.

E

But feeling it's it's a specific terminology for.

G

E

Vacancies as opposed to last week in your agenda and what you're going through if and feeling vacancy- and they understand people like you- know putting this together- that people may not be present at that time, but fulfilling vacancies. It's beyond what you're talking about which happened last week. What did we did last week, so it doesn't designate that it should be. You know three or it could be a majority here. It could have for this. It doesn't and so the way they read it the way, I read it and they've looked at other cities.

E

Other cities specified filling vacancies. It's how many are present at the time.

A

Right but if not, we specified it's an opinion.

E

No well, no, the charter says majority right. That's all it says.

C

I think I think what the councilman is saying and I think you both are saying the same thing majority is not being specified, majority could be the amount of people that are at the meeting you're taking the.

H

Majority well, hang on hang on Roger.

C

Please, uh at the end of the day, it's gonna be an opinion of yours or opinion of this body. No.

E

I'm, not I'm, not disagreeing with you. What I'm saying is exactly what you said. It doesn't say a majority of opinion who are present. It doesn't say that it's silent, all it says, is a majority.

H

There is no right or wrong answer well,.

E

There is it's a majority of the city council, that's what it says. It doesn't specify or designate or deviate from that. It just says a majority it could have, but it doesn't so the language plain language and reading the plain language on its face is a majority.

C

I got a better idea and it sucks to say this, but then, if we don't have the honest opinion from either party from either the clerk's office or the administration which I don't know why we waited this long to figure that out. Why don't we just hold off on this table it and wait until we have an actual opinion, then.

E

We'll get it yeah, we can do that. Okay,.

I

C

My personal opinion, if we don't have the right answer, we don't have counselor.

J

A

Members, an opportunity to speak, go ahead.

J

K

A

Wait nothing from the audience please well.

K

I think we somebody gets four votes and they get four votes and it's a moot point. The it's number one number two, it's section 4.5 of the charter, filling vacancies in elective office and the City attorney is correct. It says a appointment by a majority of the city council of a qualified person who Shall Serve blah blah blah.

A

K

The issue is the definition of majority on the legislature. It was the those present and voting because otherwise, if if, for example, Ray musket was Ill, but not still, a member of the council there'd be a situation where he could vote for his successor or he could not that we could never reach a majority. But that's the the issue is: is councilman Bay Doon, as the City attorney said, the uh issue of majority I think it's those the majority of their president voting like for Dearborn. It's always the next highest vote. Counter.

K

A

Exactly what I read and to me the way I would decipher the majority would be the majority of the council. Members are a body that are present honestly I wish I'd have known a difference in opinion ahead of time, because then we could have.

E

It wasn't raised as an issue, but it doesn't say a majority of the people present the language of the chart. It doesn't add that which you just said right you could have, but it does.

A

Council, chair and I did speak, like I said, I did speak with the clerk and I said. I want to I want to clarify, uh because the charter says majority and went back and forth, and she even looked into a lot of stuff, and there was nothing that was uh clear-cut. That majority would be total Council body or the ones here uh go ahead. Councilman thank.

L

You Council chair, The, Entity of consideration, say the extreme happened where we had four members that for some reason another resigned or God forbid got killed in a car accident or something we had four open seats, and we only had three active members. Then we wouldn't be ever ever be able to to.

E

Nominate them well, if you have resigned, then you answer your question because they are resigned in no no longer part of the city council, how they resigned, and the vote is that they're no longer part of the city council, we can now you're down to six. The majority is six, but if you want to do, if you don't want to, you want to add things to it or interpret it another way. I wish I didn't hear anything from the clerk.

E

We did that other opinion letter I did this morning, but I didn't hear anything else that this was an issue right so I'm just looking at.

C

Did you guys get an opinion.

M

Letter this morning, not about this.

A

So, basically, in summary, because we had to come to a conclusion on this- that Charter is not that clear and it leaves it at the interpretation, so even Robert's Rules of orders of order, which is what all Council or most Council bodies, follow, including ours. But again, there's you know, there's a book this thick. Do we follow every single rule? No, it's at the discretion of the council bodies to which way we go so I'm gonna.

A

Do this just out of fairness, I was under the opinion in my personal Viewpoint would be just uh the majority of the ones that are here. So if it would have been, four with, you know would happen, but.

F

A

My opinion no I get it, but I will go with the body, as an opinion is what I'd like to do now. Councilman Moby doing is suggesting we just hold off until we get an opinion based on that theory, we hold off a week or two or three or whatever it is, and at that point you're gonna elect somebody for just maybe one meeting or two meetings, which is almost useless. Quite honestly. At that point me I would be in favor of not voting at all. At that point, just.

E

Let's wait for the uh Friday elections today by Thursday right. We already put it out there and waiting.

C

I kind of wish you.

F

Guys would have told us.

A

Coming in here before.

E

You know so: okay.

A

But but if it's by Thursday, obviously a special meeting, because next Tuesday there's no meeting, there's no General.

E

Set a meeting for next Tuesday then just for this issue and you'd have uh all right yourself.

A

So I'm gonna take the council bodies and fitness to me personally, I'm in favor of just voting three out of five. If it turns out to be four great uh councilman which would like. What's your opinion.

L

Three out of five.

C

Well, one I don't want we I, don't want us to be wrong um because some way, somehow we're gonna end up in the Supreme Court Dearborn Heights, and it's going to be that's.

F

Gonna, be it's gonna, be Dave David.

B

C

Court and then provide.

B

C

uh But but I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with the majority, then the majority of the tier I think we vote on I mean who knows guys I mean if a majority is even going to happen tonight, but you know ultimately we're making huge decisions on on behalf of the city. Today we have things regarding uh new PCS I believe for the library using grant funding. Thank you so much Mike McCaffrey on that. uh But you know we're making that decision.

C

You're using taxpayers money and the majority is going to make that decision, whether it passes or fails, um and if it's three twos and we get three and two does that consider pass I.

N

C

Yeah, okay: well, then, I think it should be equal playing field across the board.

A

K

Thank you, Council, chair, um I, agree that it's those present and voting. That's my opinion. The whole, uh the the City attorney and councilman Bay Doon bring up a good point, um but I think we hold the vote. Somebody gets four votes. Then it's a blue point. If they don't, if we get three votes, it's they're, not a member of the council until we approve the minutes at the next meeting, so they'll.

C

K

Time to look into it.

C

Not necessarily I, uh it's I was sworn in instantly and.

A

Then yeah and whoever it is instantly and by the way to make it clear I have no. You know whether it's four votes or three votes. It's all the same. I just think my personal opinion. It should be three voice, three votes, but it doesn't bother me if it's four or five for that man.

N

I think the majority of, what's here, three okay.

A

So, lastly, the only other alternative we've got is to wait till we get an opinion and wait until next Tuesday. Anybody interested in that as an option I'm.

C

I'm gonna tell you that that's where I personally feel comfortable with, uh but I mean regardless I'm gonna do what this body wants. I would like an opinion uh just because we don't want to be wrong and but then again, we also don't want to delay it regardless.

C

If you guys want to move forward with the three I'm going to move forward with the three I still think. The opinion is the right direction. Okay, anybody I would like to.

A

Wait until next Tuesday, no okay.

N

I want to make something clear.

A

If we wait for an opinion just so that you know it's just an opinion of a particular attorney as to how they're deciphering the word majority means it's still, not black and white, it's still an opinion. It's not, unfortunately way back when Arnold. Do we blame your father there, but the councilman's father was one of was involved in writing the charter and they just didn't make it that clear, unfortunately, but it is what it is.

A

Okay, so we're all gonna go with three out of five correct: yes, okay, counselor, that's what we're gonna go with all right. So with that being the case, uh we're gonna go, the clerk is going to go ahead and take roll call. Each person will say who they are nominating.

C

I, don't think we even.

A

Read: creation first I'm, sorry, no, no I'm, just giving everybody a heads up and then we're gonna go ahead and take a roll call. Each council member will pick a person. Whoever gets three out of five votes or more will be sworn in today. As a council, member I can tell you this I I speak for myself. Personally, um it actually I went to the comments section well.

A

No, no we're gonna do that. We're gonna do that.

C

Oh yeah, because.

A

You have to public comments. No, no, no I will allow public comments. Absolutely absolutely it is. That's. Oh I see what you're saying yeah this was pulled before I think it should be after I'll switch them around. That's a good good point. Thank you. It was upon emotions and reversals. No big deal we'll reverse it back. 3A, okay, so uh next I'm gonna go ahead and go to public comments and then we'll go back to 3A.

A

Is that okay to switch them around? Damn Clerk.

B

um Yeah I mean I know that's another prior appointments. We did it this way. I.

A

Know but but but what I'm thinking I still would like to hear members of the audience an opportunity to speak with their council members before they vote. So if they speak to us after we vote, it's almost mute. So with that being the case, I'm gonna go ahead and go to public hearings and comments on agenda items. Only you will have two minutes to speak. Please state your name City and Street. Please Vince! Thank you for pointing it out good good, good point. No.

O

Problem my pleasure, Vince trapkowski, Columbia Street, item 3A I, hope you guys make a good choice because, as far as I feel as a citizen I feel you should go somewhere with experience, even if they're controversial or not controversial, we need somebody to challenge this Administration on a daily basis, make sure that they're crossing their T's and dotting their highs.

O

So, for that being said, um we have some people here that offered or gave us their great experiences on their jobs and working with Grant monies and stuff like that, and they want a Council seat.

O

If you're not picked tonight. Gentlemen, would you be willing to do your experiences with grant writing um Pro Tem? You know you want to help the city that bad come on up the city. You know, let's not just show up at one or two Council meetings and expect to get on the council.

O

D

O

Your time, okay, thank.

A

A

um Hold off a quick second Ned, so I thought this might come up and I'm just gonna address it. Okay, if we allow one candidate, then we have to allow the other candidates.

P

A

You ever write speak as a resident I I'm, just throwing it out there just want to check. Do you as council members will allow candidates to go up and speak a gun.

K

No I think I agree because we could be here all night.

A

Okay, as long as there's not too many candidates that want to speak, it's no problem but sure hang on.

C

Yes, there is such a thing, one second, one. Second one. Second, everybody should have the right to speak. This is an open, Forum. Okay, we should let everybody Allah. Whoever wants.

Q

Speak speak God such a thing as precedence over 60 years. Okay, wait name City street, please I I did I'm sorry uh Rosetta Street. My name is Ned opinion. We have a precedent of 60 years when I was on the council before there were appointments with one person, and we took the vote.

Q

That's what I Remember by being on the council. If somebody has a longer memory than me, precedence has some issue here. It's quite evident. A quorum is a quorum. Why do you bother doing it at every meeting if it has no meaning.

F

A

Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the audience I would like to comment City street name. Please.

R

Hassan, are you a public activist? It says over here. The majority of votes does not, inter it doesn't indicate if it's four or three or what's it called correct. It just says majority correct. So, basically, if anybody's absent, they're not qualified to vote, that's what that's that's. That is what it is: you're, not qualified qualified. If you're, not here on Zoom you're, not allowed to vote, it does not say in the charter how many people. So it's a three three people vote on the same person.

R

That's all when the for at the end, that's all I have to say thank.

A

You any other comments from the audience. Okay, see none. Anybody on Zoom.

C

The Mrs uh treasure is clean as your hand. Okay,.

A

Ma'am Treasurer God.

S

Hello good evening, everyone, um my address is uh North Gully in Dearborn, Heights and I wanted to I. Have a current claim item that I want to ask a question about, but I do want to um say, I wish you all the very best in your decision this evening. It's a very important decision that you have in front of you and, as you know, I mean just even look at your agenda tonight. You really I pray that you picked the best qualified person and you know wish you all the best with that.

S

The current claim item that I'd, like you to please look at, is current claim item number 24, which is Page 104.

S

um and I notice. We're not numbering our claims um in the packets I think that would be a really wise idea. It would be helpful to the residents as well as yourselves. This current claim is JB Electric and I. Have the invoice in front of me? Do you want me to give you a minute to pull it up out of your packet pages.

A

S

So JB electric um invoice number is I have to blow it up three one, one, eight seven, and if you go down to the description, the first item says due to storm damage for thirty six hundred dollars and then the second line item on this bill on this invoice is looks like it's a change order of fifteen hundred um one being that it's storm damage.

S

My question is: wouldn't this normally fall under uh Insurance claim through mmrma and if not, then why and then also two if we can get an explanation on or elaboration to tell us why the change order? That's all I, have thank you. Okay,.

A

It does saying here: uh price, including labor and materials plus lifter truck costs, trenching and new conduits. That's a fifteen hundred dollar change order.

S

Right and yeah and I'm just curious. Why that wasn't in the the 3600 which really, if you look at the 3600 it talks about replacing 300 foot messenger wire, Triplex number two I mean I guess maybe there was Discovery once they were into the project, but again I still will draw back to the insurance claim.

S

So because I imagine in you know the president speaking of President this evening, um we would see like if there's a car, a city car, that's in an accident. This would all go through mmrma, just like the storm damage plane would I. Imagine especially for this amount, which of course, is fifty one hundred dollars total. So that's my question. Thank you. Okay,.

A

Anybody from Administration that can answer that.

N

Is Eric's online and he signed this, who.

A

N

Sorry, Building Department.

A

uh Rick are you on here.

R

You see Rick.

B

I'm asking him.

N

He's in the third row second floor.

A

Is Mariana.

B

In here by insurance, Rick.

A

Are you able to answer that particular question about EB electric? Yes,.

T

What it is I'm.

A

T

Tree fell down and knocked the line down and they replaced the line and when they replaced the line, it also pulled the wire out of the ground. That was the change order for the underground wire.

S

About the insurance claim, though, do you have any information on that, sir.

T

uh It was given to Mariana for the insurance claim. Yes, okay,.

S

T

I'd be curious.

S

If an adjuster did an adjuster give us something that said, this didn't qualify.

T

S

A

Mariana's Got a Brand up called Mariana.

B

A

Can you unmute yourself, please.

U

Afternoon, uh yes, we had originally given this to our insurance company, but it was not covered by the insurance company because it was storm damage and electrical which wasn't covered. It wasn't building property damage, it was just wiring, so we did to our due diligence and those respects.

S

I think thank you, I appreciate that clarification. Thank.

A

You any other questions.

B

V

Hello, Gary, mayatke, Plainfield, Street, Dearborn, Heights, uh yeah, I, I've, never joined by uh phone am I able to be heard. Yes, yes, yes, okay, very good! Thank you. uh Thank you. Council chair for the extra minutes.

V

um My comments will pertain to item 9B I recently came before this honorable body and commented that the problems in the police department, with all of the individuals leaving are retention, problems caused by poor leadership and management on the part of the mayor, the police, chief and the directors, namely at the top I, must express my strongest concerns that this proposed agreement is not financially sustainable on the part of the city and will create massive problems, and it may very well cause the city to become insolvent.

V

uh Your honorable body should refer this matter back to the administration to obtain appropriate cost estimates, including Actuarial reports that will address the pension implications, not only with respect to the patrol officers, but with respect to the supervisors as well. I would note that Actuarial reports generally assume um things with regard to raises it's my understanding that the Actuarial rule reports that the city has obtained and most recent past are not based on assumptions that there will be increases in the realm of what is proposed in this collective bargaining agreement.

F

V

That, therefore, the amounts that we're looking at, not only in terms of the general budget, which this is going to cost millions and millions of dollars which should be shared with members of the public, exactly how much this is going to cost and not only in terms of the overtime which is going to be huge under these circumstances, but also in terms of the pensions that will end up being increased and by the way, it's my recollection that there is a metoo clause with regard to the supervisors Union.

V

So, if you end up approving this, you will automatically increase the supervisors in the same way and increase their pensions and their final average compensation and I can't imagine how this is going to end up being sustainable.

V

um There should end up being a full vetting of this proposed agreement uh in terms of the financial implications. Both in terms of the pay are all in terms of the pay, the overtime, the pensions both for the patrol officers and the the police supervisors, and there should be also a really clear understanding of how this all fits together, because you know it's one percent to the TPA, om and I, obviously like the police officers.

V

But we need to have some horizontal and vertical equity in terms of compensation uh among the different bargaining units, because otherwise, especially if you're dealing, for example, with the firefighters I, like the firefighters but they're, going to come in and say. Why aren't we receiving a comparable increase and then when they don't get that comparable increase?

V

Because there's no way we can afford it as a City without being driven into Emergency Management, then they're going to potentially go to 312 arbitration and get it anyways, because they're, most likely comparable will end up being the police unions, namely for the firefighters so again, I urge you very strongly to have this fully costed out in terms of all of the different issues to share that information with the public and to address these issues.

V

In a way. That's just not a matter of growing taxpayer money at them, because that's what it appears that is being done by this Administration and I can't believe that the financial people involved would end up believing that any of this can end up being sustainable and I. Think there needs to be a very public discussion about uh what exactly is being done here.

V

C

A

You Gary anybody else on Zoom or in the audience. That has a comment: okay,.

C

um Our a charge.

A

Yeah, come on I'm going to ask you to answer that not not right now, when we are ready.

G

And boy stream, um Villanova is one of the pays on the agenda for tonight is Villanova the cement company that poured the cement down the drain because, if they are I, would have a problem with the city paying the spill until that's been cleaned up.

G

It's not it's, not. Okay!

G

A

Have but uh but I'm there I was there in uh in um I, guess we'll call it kind of like an impromptu meeting with the mayor Ane and he has instructed people to look into that.

G

A

Okay, with no other comments, we'll go back to 3A.

A

So again, uh let's go ahead and start with. 3A comes with chair councilman.

C

Oh I moved out to Dearborn Heights city council and nominate all of the candidates. This actually makes me feel great that applied to file for file the current city councils, city, council, C vacancy terms, ending December, 31st 2023.. Second, okay,.

A

Motion made by councilman Bay Dunes seconded by councilwoman Breyer uh before we go to roll call any comments or go ahead.

C

I think every single person here that put their name in today, I uh I'm, so proud of you guys. This is not easy and I want you to know. I actually had a conversation with Ray musket today, and he said man I feel glad to not be in your seat, because they're weighs heavy on your heart um and I. Want you guys to know uh that these decisions today that we make.

C

I have a checklist across here, because I am so indecisive of who really I'm going to be voting for uh it's nerve-wracking and I. Think each and every single one of you guys are amazing and I think each and every single one of you would do a wonderful job up here, But. Ultimately, a decision is going to be made and uh whatever decision is going to be made tonight.

C

um You know just know that we need to make sure that our city continues to move forward and my my blessings and hearts with each and every single one of you that puts your name out and uh the councilman musket. Thank you for making this tough decision on us, uh but but I really I I'm, proud.

A

Of it I'm laughing right now, oh yeah, he fell off.

C

His chair, uh but really I I, am grateful for all of you. A to Z, who put their name in uh this is very tough and please don't stop fighting the good fight continue to show up to the meeting continue to you know, engage uh and continue to stay involved with with your doing your civil duties. Thank you. So much.

A

Okay, um yeah, um first of all, I want to thank all the different candidates that applied for this position. um Quite frankly, I didn't think there would be that many. So that's that's impressive, that that many people are trying to do their civic duties. I love it uh number two I do want to say and I'm, not just laying the same. Just just saying it just to say it. This truly was a difficult decision, because each and every candidate had a lot of positive attributes.

A

I did not see um anybody stand out in in where I thought. Oh, my God they're, you know these people are terrible, or these three are not good. I mean each and every candidate had a lot of positive attributes. It made it very difficult for me. I I went through my and then at the end, I sat down over the weekend. I went through my system and used the criteria. If I was walking into the booth right now and I was going to vote.

A

What criteria would I use to vote for a particular person and I had five things that were important to me personally and I just ranked each and every candidate on on it? It didn't make it super clear. Unfortunately, a lot of them passed the.

C

Test yeah every single one of you guys have this list so, but we.

A

Could only pick one we can only pick one unfortunately and I do want to tell the rest of the people that may or may not be picked today. Don't give up. You know I'm, just going not to put you on this part, but councilman be doing laws by very little. The first time then ran again and made it number two very important keep in mind. At the end of the day, the residents are ultimately gonna pick who's gonna, be on Council, whether it's this year or two years from now, etc, etc.

A

So, let's just keep that in mind, but for right now it's only gonna be three four meetings. I didn't think it would be that popular for three four meetings, but it is and let's go with it. Councilman thank.

K

You Council, chair and I agree uh both with councilman Bay, Doon and Council. Chair Abdullah was very impressed. A lot of uh talented diverse candidates, particularly several of the women that applied uh very impressed and uh please stay with it.

K

um We'd, like your involvement, I know, councilman must get for years, attended the meetings but did not run and then at somebody's urgent. He didn't run still be here, but his health won't permit it. Thank you.

N

I'd like to get the ball rolling, can I nominate someone at this.

A

Point no! No, not yet we're going to just vote in division, we're going to vote individually, we're going to vote individually.

N

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Okay and just for full disclosure transparency, I'm gonna tell you my personal criteria. What I used dedication to the community City, that's one criteria: skill set was another criteria, shows up to the meetings with another criteria: experience on city council, whether having been on city council or just general experience in city council and whether they're on a ballot or not. No one of these was bigger than the next, but these were important issues to me and that's what I used to come up with my decision? Okay, any other comments from council members.

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A

Okay, now you're gonna make your vote.

N

You want to think more.

C

Zohar Abdul heck.

B

Nancy Breyer.

N

I'd like to nominate Amada, kavi.

A

Okay, we're not nominee so is that your vote? It's.

B

This is voting.

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This is for a council member.

C

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Robert constant.

K

uh Vote go on to hear Abdul, haq and I would also nominate Ahmed al-khabi, but.

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That's your vote. I.

K

Just want to make sure we're.

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Doing this I'm gonna copy, okay,.

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B

My God three one girl, I'm, sorry, three, two congratulations.

A

At this particular point, just like in the past, we're gonna go ahead and have whoever's been appointed, be sworn in and they will sit on. The console so can come on up.

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Again and repeat after me, I.

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Perform the duties of.

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And I will Faithfully perform the duty of council.

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And for the city of Dearborn Heights Wayne State of Michigan State.

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Of Michigan Michigan, congratulations.

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Thank you all come on up.

A

All right, congratulations to all the candidates and congratulations to the current appointment. Okay. Next up is item 4A approval of the minutes. I'm sorry.

C

Oh I see yeah, you can see anymore exactly.

A

You know by me: we need you to knock this out in the next 10 seconds.

B

C

What they say right since you've been recently elected or appointed on the agenda, not to say about the rookie that gets on first.

A

Okay, so the next type.

A

No, it's fine! It's fine! Okay item four item. Four, a.

A

Okay, uh here, okay, you know what council um councilman stand up person well not later on during publicize stand up for a second okay God. Take the picture just leave that part up. That's okay, I know, but for right now we have no choice; okay, I'm! Sorry! No! No! We don't want to do that. We want to do it. Okay, let's go and go to item; no, no! Let's go ahead and go to item four. Eight okay item: four: eight Council.

C

Chair councilman I moved that to Dearborn Heights city council approve the minutes of the regular meeting of September 12 2023, with an amendment to motion 23-424 regarding the Heather Lane Park and Van Hall Van Holden Park Improvement. The cost of the proposal for the van home park Improvement is not to exceed 57 500 as submitted second okay.

A

Motion made by councilman Bay, Dune and seconded by councilman constant any discussion on that hearing. None all in favor, please State aye aye any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on the agenda is item six Council chair on transfers and current claims go ahead.

C

I move that to Dearborn Heights city council approve the current claims. Ach wire transfer six through one through 6-49, as submitted.

A

Second motion made by councilman Bay Dunes second about councilman, constant and discussion on the council, chair councilman.

C

uh I know that you said that there was um some discussion regarding the potential of uh the cement being thrown into our sewer system. I watched the video by the gentleman who sent it on on Facebook and all this is being investigated.

C

What I want to know is, as I was going through, the claims I happen to not see that we're paying them anything right now, but I just wanted any Clarity from anyone else on the body uh that, if we are paying them anything right now, uh because if we are today, I'd like to hold off on that until that's at least you know heard from the administration or um or Mr deep can speak on that.

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D

He's probably called it always I mean I already talked to him. uh There was.

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D

There were several companies working on in that area, and uh so as of right now we don't know who actually dumped it. You know what okay well I I need the pictures. So if we can get a picture so we can send it to the police for them to investigate right now. I don't have anything to go to the police, we're talking to neighbors, trying to get a video or picture to see who actually did The Dumping right now. I, don't have data.

C

D

We paying AMG.

C

D

Then no there was there was some people doing private work, driveways and sidewalks. You know for Neighbors, so I'm not really sure I.

C

D

What I'm asking no they're not on here? Okay, so we're not paying anything! This week, we shouldn't be talking about names of company, because yeah.

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C

Too investigated look guys, let's call it photos if we're paying a company. That's this we're not saying they are I. Don't want anybody to say that we are well, but.

H

If there's allegations.

E

Out until we're sure that's all we're saying yeah.

F

E

It may be may not, but just let's refrain from accusing.

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E

Any particular company Roger.

C

You gotta understand: there's a video circulating social media and WhatsApp. So.

E

The videos out there look I've dealt with videos, it doesn't necessarily mean it's evidence. Okay and every video has you don't introduce it into court unless it's qualified and is a foundation. Lady and Mr constant was verifying just because it's out there doesn't mean it's true. Okay,.

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E

I'm asking myself the good news is we're.

H

Having that camera, it doesn't happen, I just know what the names.

C

But I just want to put it for the record. One Last, Thing Before I improve this I just want to put it for the record. If there is companies doing I need this to be investigated, because if this is happening, let me tell you what this is going to do. Our basements are going to flood again. You know uh uh and I'm going to tell you right now: I'm I'm, a victim of having a basement flooded. Now, that's the last thing that we need and want right now.

E

If someone is doing it, it's obviously obviously um a felony and the Environmental Protection Agency has a designated detective unit that works on this with oil. Other things being dumped cement is one of the categories, so a day will be prosecuted.

A

I mean okay, very simply, there's a video out there. If we could have Administration I'm sorry, I didn't have my.

E

Yeah, it's a federal agency.

A

And again, the mayor did say that he wanted it looked into if that could be turned into the police department. I haven't looked into because obviously this is not acceptable. Yeah.

E

A

Turn it and it goes to the EPA okay. Thank you. Any other items on item six Council.

K

Chair councilman well just quickly. There is a discussion about a change order that was put in additional damage uh from storm damage and the treasurer brought up um who should pay it or whether it was turning the insurance. That's change, orders and construction are common number one and number two. It's it's it's a claim. It has to be paid.

K

That's my only comment.

A

Okay, thank you. Council.

L

Chair councilman, thank you, yeah, that uh the claim for might be electric. um It said that they tried to turn us into the insurance company and they wouldn't cover it. I mean is that where is there? Should there be some backup on that saying denied by the insurance company?

L

Therefore, we have to pay it up, and why is the city paying this.

A

According to Rick watland Who's online, he said a tree fell over right.

L

If the tree falls over on something I own, my property insurance card usually covers it. Is it was it a city line or a price.

A

Factor, keep in mind is the city still owns the Warren Valley Golf course.

D

I'm sorry, it was a pull right outside the city hall.

C

Yeah I don't think this had anything to do with Warren.

A

Valley, uh no, there was something on there about Warren Valley, because.

B

Warren Valley yeah.

B

A

Did say: Warren Valley, Dr deep, has his hand up uh director deep God.

Y

Oh, let me try them again all right, so this is. uh This is not a building claim it's an overhead line in the field that supplies power to a remote standing, standing location, it's an outdoor uh overhead line. So when the tree fell outside it's, it's not a building, claim it's an outdoor overhead line and that is not included in building coverage. So that's why it was denied and it was when the tree fell. A big Branch took out the wire and pulled the underground cables as well, but.

A

It was at Warren, Valley, Golf, Course,.

Y

Valley Golf.

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Y

It's between yeah, it's an outdoor type thing, it's an overhead electric line. That's all it is.

L

Console chair I mean it's going to fall. A tree falls on my power line. I don't pay to have it done, DTE comes out and fixes it.

Y

So this is not a DTE installation. It's a private facility with a private extension cord that supplies power to a remote area. It's not DTE. Dte's responsibility stops at the building, so if it was outside the building from the DTE line to us, yes, DTE will pay it, but this is inside installation. It's inside 250 Acres. That's a city-owned facility.

L

So we're not covered on any of any kind of line that runs through the golf course. Overhead I.

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L

Also understand why Insurance wouldn't cover this. It's just I mean it's it's on your property. It's a something you own I,.

A

Mean well I mean usually I, don't know what the deductible is. We don't have that in front of us, but it depends on what the deductible is. This whole amount for this was 5100 1500 for the late for the change order, so I'd assume I, don't have the contract in front of me that our deductible is much higher than that.

A

Bud in the denial letter.

U

We did email, I pulled up the email from Tracy cool who's, our property claims manager at the municip, Michigan Municipal, Risk, Management, Authority, mmrma and unfortunately, our electrical power, poles, electric wires and Transformers- are excluded uh from the payment under the building and personal property coverage. So that was the excuse that they uh provided for not covering this damage.

C

I I got to tell you guys, um I think you know Council chair hit, it on, you know, hit the nail on the head if we were to pull an mmrma where we're going to pay a lot more money and just on our deductible, let's just call it for what it is.

C

um I'd also like to kind of see, uh does the contract between us and you know the Issa brothers or Warren Valley? Are we held responsible for that or would they be held responsible for that, and so I think this is the question that we should be asking I think ultimately it needs to be paid, it needs to be paid, um but really what is the maintenance on us, or is it going to be on them?.

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C

A

The contract directly in front of us to be able to comment on that yeah mayor. Are you familiar yeah, okay,.

L

I have a question for Ali Diva on this issue: um Mr deep I, see on this invoice. It's extra money for trenching and conduit now, I'm, hoping that this line was put Underground.

Y

So um it is underground to a point, but uh you have to cross a river to get it to the final location, so um it is underground until you get to the river and it goes overhead. So our overhead distance is extremely short.

L

Why are we we putting it underground? Why are we retrenching it's already underground there, because.

Y

The Old Wire was fried so they had to trench a new one.

A

Okay- and we also have a question on that- that's.

C

For sure, that's.

A

One I just want to know if.

W

We have contact with. We do have a contact with the iso Brothers and was revived golf management. Do they have insurance to cover? Any damage happened to that property or the city is responsible.

A

Okay, again without the contract being here, wouldn't be able to tell obviously in general in general, when somebody's leasing, they're not responsible for a tree falling over, it typically be the landlord. So just based on that theory I'd imagine it's us, but I don't have the contract in front of me to be able.

C

To oh I think this is a very low.

E

Amount I, don't think this is something we should not, but I can look into it. For the council.

A

Yeah, so if you outlooked into the only option, you'd have available as a council body right now, because we don't have the contract directly in front of us would be to uh possibly table this one till we get an answer from what do you calling and go on the next council meeting? That's fine! You can do that. Okay, so whoever made the motion you'd have to make it with table in this one Council, chair councilman. What what line item is that uh just IB electric.

C

Okay, Council chair I made the trumps okay. The juvenile city council approved the current claims and ACH wire transfer six through one through 6-49, uh with the removal of IB electric, as submitted.

A

And then send it back to Administration.

C

Send it back to Administration for clarification, okay,.

A

Motion made by councilman Bay Dune, uh originally was seconded by councilman constant. Are you well I would say this.

K

We in that regard, I think we should approve the whole thing. It's we've been told the claim was made and it was not honored number one number two. We were told by the city engineer that uh it it was something that was their private line. So it would it's it's it's a moot point. I mean it's already been checked.

A

Into I think we should or.

K

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A

Second, it okay, so seconded seconding the amendment by councilman, constant all in favor, please State, aye, aye aye any opposed the eyes have it motion carried.

L

Next item Council chair.

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L

Also, um were there three bids taken on this project.

C

The change orders, so it's just an increase well.

L

This is, this is a this is the work plus the change, or it's one, one big thing, but I mean it's over fifteen hundred dollars. Five thousand normally.

A

To 100 standard.

L

Procedure is to get three bids.

A

Okay, um mayor's gone Rick quatlan. Are you on there.

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A

uh Mr dib, unless you know the answer to this by any chance or Mariana.

A

Okay, well, either way, it's being.

F

A

Right with Administration, okay go ahead.

Y

I'm sorry I I, it was handled by the building department, I, just assisted I provided technical support, but the actual work was handled by okay.

A

Can can whoever's looking into this Administration also get the answer to councilman wenzel's question. If there was bids that went out for this okay, Mariana I assume you somehow will either be handling it or coordinating it with somebody. Is that correct.

U

uh Yeah I can follow up and again there was no bids, because this was a storm emergency, so just like, with any other emergency covered under the emergency class, it wasn't something planned and the power needed to be restored. So there were no bids for each.

A

huh All right, all in favor, please stay die aye any opposed the eyes. Have it again. uh Next item on agenda is item 7A go ahead.

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W

Recommended motion that the Dearborn Heights city council award David for the Eaton Center restroom Improvement to the simal LC as the lowest qualified bidder in the amount of 62 000 and authorize the controller to return the advance to the unsuccessful bidders. In addition, authorize the mayor and Clerk to sign the agreement on behalf of the city depending reviewed by Corporation Council, additionally authorize the cedd director to approve necessary change, orders up to twelve thousand four hundred dollars.

W

That's 20 percent of the total bid amount, furthermore, authorize the mayor and controller or clerk to sign the necessary warrants and the treasurer to issue payment not to exceed 74 000. the charge to the Berwin Center Improvement general ledger accounts in paid from the unrestricted general fund pool bank account, which will be fully reimbursed from the U.S treasury accordingly, as outlined in 7A. Second, okay,.

A

Motion made by councilman Abdul, Hart and seconded by councilwoman Breyer in discussion, Council.

C

Chair councilman I, don't want to spend too much time on this, but I think the administration I think the cdbg director Hassan Jamal Mr Bazi, who I also see is here uh I know our fans from the Ian Center are here with us today: I'll probably see them Thursday at 12 30 as we play C volleyball- um and this is you know this was quick. This was Swift I think we brought this up three four weeks.

C

We just started pressuring it three four weeks ago and the administration and the cdb cdbg director, along with his colleague, Mr Bazi back. There did a phenomenal job in bringing this up, and so, uh let's just get the ball moving. I mean those toilets are very short and the sinks are very small. So this is congratulations to all of our seniors. At the Eaton Center pencil.

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C

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N

Finally, going to have Ada approval, we'll have bars in the the restroom we've got gorgeous pictures and we've got to stack this much to read and you guys did a great job. Thank you.

W

Absolutely awesome I really want to thank the administration that, finally, they are moving and working to improve the senior centers and the public facilities in the city and I want to thank director Jamel, because I know he puts lots of time, and you know toward these things.

W

I hope that we go ahead and approve it.

A

Okay, thank you very much. um Congratulations on getting this thing done, unfortunately, long overdue, but at least glad we're going in the right direction. Let's go ahead and take this to vote all in favor, please State Eye, any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on the agenda is item 7B controller King bid award, chair, yep.

K

Councilman constant I move that the Dearborn Heights city council approved the bid for a new payroll system uh to paycom and authorize the mayor and clerk to sign the agreement on behalf of the city pending review by Corporation Council. In addition, provided the mayor also authorizes any such payment as a necessary expense city council authorizes warrants to be issued for the payment of these services from general ledger account number 101, 200-818-000 Contract Services.

K

By doing so, the city council is authorizing any such warrant and payment without prior authorization by the city council of the specific warrant and payment is permitted. By and consistent with city council section 8.9 is outlined in seven B's.

A

Second, okay motion made by councilman constant seconded by councilman Abdullah any discussion on that I I, don't like in the in the motion. We don't have a dollar amount um that I see and I'm trying to go to.

K

The monthly amount.

A

Yeah, there's no dollar amount. I! Don't like that honestly uh personally, open-ended.

K

A

There any type of cab controller that you're familiar with us.

W

On the second page, I think 6100 right.

A

But I'm saying in the motion, though, ultimately what's going to ultimately cause, what's an emotion.

W

A

Can add that to the motion? That's what I'm saying I'd like to have a dollar figure.

Z

Okay, this is going to cost us about 85 380.36 annual cost right now, Paylocity is costing us 93 645.96.

Z

So it is cheaper than Paylocity. uh It's we're really not doing it, because it's cheaper we're actually doing it. Just because it's going to give us a better, much more payroll records, tracking, better we're going to be able to have our it's more user friendly. We're going to have our employees actually posting their own time as opposed to Administration doing it for them. So there's a lot of additional things that paycom can do that. Paylocity can't do I.

C

Saw the comparisons by the way and I was actually impressed. I'm somebody in my work of business I, look at a lot of pay stubs uh for my clients and uh I saw the way the structure of the new. uh You know, example that you guys had in the backup. I was impressed. I, actually I thought it was. It was easier and uh I liked it. I really did. It was straight to the point.

L

Council, chair councilman, the 90 uh thousand dollars is that the total amount are we gonna have to buy new software or we have to have training or any new staff or the.

Z

93, the 93 000 was paylessly, that's what we're paying now. Paycom is only charging us 85 000, and that does include all of our training.

Z

uh The desks and chairs that we need okay,.

A

Okay, so the only thing I would suggest in uh you'll go next to the councilman. Only God suggest is in the motion that we put a cap, the amount not to exceed, and we'll just say, maybe 86 000. I, just like a dollar figure on there. Okay, if, if councilman constant, would like to amend that yes, okay and who made the second I did okay, so motion made by councilman Constance seconded by councilman block get a camera. Yes,.

W

Does this company have experience with other cities? Yes,.

Z

Michigan, yes, they have Municipal experience as well. Did.

W

We check if they are have those their services. Yes,.

Z

Okay, thank you. You're welcome, okay,.

A

All in favor, please stay right, any opposed the eyes. Have it motion carried next item on the agendas item 8A.

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AA

Fun Brownfield.

W

The appointments.

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Motion- oh sorry,.

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N

Right I'd like to make a motion at this Dearborn Heights city council, concur with the mayoral reappointments of Miss Lisa Corte and Mr David Hall to the tax increment, Finance Authority and Brownfield Redevelopment Authority boards, that's known as Tifa with each term expiring. December of 2026, in addition, concur with the mayoral appointment of Miss Rachel Felice to the tax increment, Finance Authority and Brownfield Redevelopment Authority board's term to expire December of 2025. This appointment is to replace Mr John kellett, as outlined in 8A. Second.

A

Okay motion made by councilman, Breyer and seconded by councilman, constant and discussion on that: okay hearing, none all favor, please State aye aye aye any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on the agenda is item 8B.

K

I moved at the Dearborn Heights city council Grant permission to Star International Academy to hold their annual homecoming parade on Friday September 29th 2023 at 11 A.M, with staging to begin at 10 A.M. It's outlined in 8B.

A

Support okay motion made by councilman constant seconded by councilman Bay Dune any discussion on that hearing. None all in favor, please stay at aye aye, any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on agenda is reports from City officials, Council, chair, councilman,.

C

I moved it to Dearborn Heights city council approved the contract between the city and the Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters, effective July, 1st 2023 through June, 30th, 2026 and authorize the mayor and clerk to sign. The agreement on behalf of the city is outlined in 9A.

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C

I mean this is a great day in Dearborn Heights. uh We are witnessing history that a union like the Carpenters Union uh is receiving.

C

um You know a tentative agreement, and so I know that this is a back and forth I. Think it's been. You know from what I was told by our our HR Director I think a little over seven or eight years before we've had a tentative agreement with the Carpenters Union. So uh we really are. uh uh You know it's a bright day today here in Dearborn Heights, and so congratulations to those who are part of the Carpenters Union. uh We are grateful and thankful for that.

C

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C

Gets approved thank.

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L

Let everyone know who uh who our Carpenters are there in the Carpenters Union there are all of our building inspectors. Our full-time building inspectors are in the Carpenters Union. We don't have Carpenters.

L

Why I mean they're not Union yeah? Now the Carpenters Union, okay.

A

Any other comments from Council Members um I I, can tell you speaking uh with my experiences in in that particular field. um Well deserved I mean in in long overdue. uh We've got inspectors that were paid quite a bit less than a lot of other cities and we were fortunate to not lose our inspectors. Quite honestly, if I could be surprised, we didn't lose any inspectors, but I'm glad we didn't I'm.

A

Glad uh Rick is writing uh running a tight ship and I'm glad all of the inspectors stayed they're all great inspectors, I'm glad they're again they're Fair due.

C

um Council, chair councilman, just also to add on which you brought it to my attention. Rick, it does run a tight shift. He does a great job. uh There isn't a time where I call him and I say hey. Can you help this person? You know? Can you can you help this person again I'm similar to you, I hire everything out, I, don't know what I can't put a nail on the wall. My wife I put a lot of holes in our drywall.

C

It doesn't look good, but you know Rick I'm sure is good with that stuff and you know kudos to Rick man for real Rick. Thank you for everything. You do yep absolutely.

A

Okay, um I'm gonna go ahead and ask a question for director Haslet on on this one, our Human Resources Director. If you don't mind on this one and on the next one um who've had calls concerns questions and then, even today, at the council meeting in regards to the potential cost on this, as far as our pensions, uh etc, etc, and I haven't actually Actuarial report on this.

AA

So are you speaking about the carpenter Union, specifically right, so this is three employees there and the change that we made in this agreement was that we went from hourly positions to salary positions. So we are now saving on time and a half um which were part of the additional costs with the group in the past in terms of Actuarial, with respect to three people, not as much of an impact. The next group I'll talk about when we get to that group.

A

Okay, then, if you don't mind staying up there, because we're going to be addressing that please, thank you. Okay, um any other questions on this yeah hearing, none all in favor, please State aye, aye any opposed the eyes have it motion carried. Congratulations.

N

I'm ready to do the next one if I can.

A

Yeah absolutely councilwoman is asked to do the next one councilman go ahead. 9B.

N

All right I'm making the motion that the Dearborn Heights city council approved the contract and letter of understanding between the city and the Dearborn Heights Police Officers Association affected July 1 of 23 through June 30th of 24 and authorized the mayor and clerk to sign. The agreement and letter of understanding on behalf of the city is outlined in 9B. Second and I'd like to add one little thing: we're finally going to give our police officers more money. It should bring more officers into that. We we bumped it up very nicely. Okay,.

A

So a motion made by councilwoman Breyer seconded by councilman, constant I'm, going to have our human resource director address some of the questions, but I can tell you. This has been a pet peeve of mine.

A

um I was totally disappointed for many many years and I always spoke. My my say on this. When I started on the council, our police officers were starting pay at 32, 000, honestly and bluntly, as a resident. I didn't know that at the time eight years ago, until I got on Council and I thought, how could they make the same thing as a guy or gal working at a fast food joint? It just didn't make any sense to me.

A

We pushed it as a council body and the best we could get at the time was 40, but now we are a lot more fair. We are a lot more competitive with other communities in the area and the good news is I've spoken with the mayor spoken with a police chief, many times in directors.

A

We have right now, it's okay, to say how many mayor yeah, there's seven candidates are like this close to being signed up on our police force, so we are going God willing in the right direction and in having this type of pay will definitely take us in that direction to be able to get because you can't it's hard to get police officers to come work for our city at 40 000, when a lot of the competing cities are at 60 and 62 and 56 and 57.. We had no shot at it uh now.

A

Fortunately, at 60 000 starting pay, I thank the administration and thank our police officers. Union Council.

C

Sheriff, okay, go ahead before we go down to that and I'm just going to Echo uh as our council president just stated, uh this is much needed. We are not competitive in Dearborn Heights. Forty thousand dollars is not something you can. You know you know bring a family forward, uh I'm glad to see that we, you know, we've come to a tentative agreement.

C

However, I also want to make sure that the city can afford this, uh because we have a fiduciary duty to their city and to the residents and ensuring that we can actually afford to do this, and then you know ultimately I know her I think the gentleman that spoke earlier stated.

C

You know you offer something like this for a starting police officer. Are we going to offer something like this for a starting firefighter and then what is you know? I mean so I just want to make sure that this is something that I know. This is your specialty. It's not mine, so you're going to give us that understanding and if we could truly and I don't mean, can we afford this for the next year? Can we afford this for the next 20 years?

C

Can my son continue to live here and know that, because it's only going to go up from here and we're not gonna be stuck at 60 for the next 20 years, at least I hope now? Thank you.

A

Well, let me, if you don't mind councilman, the director she's been waiting for a while, so.

L

Go ahead should we make a motion I'm. Sorry, we haven't made a motion on this. Yet have we we have no.

A

We have, we did yeah, but we're gonna go ahead and take into our discussion so coming up director.

AA

Okay, so um with respect to our Police Department, yes, we did negotiate a significant wage increase for the group um and, yes, part of the challenge that we have had as a city with all of our employee groups. So we've had a long-standing practice of suppressed wages and as you're familiar many of the ways that we accommodated this over the years was that we added days off time off generally in the public sector.

AA

We are very generous in the benefit category. We do have generous time off paid holidays, generous benefit defined contribution in terms of retirement. When it comes to compensation, then we're always going to be a little bit on the lower end than maybe what's in the private sector. But when we've been this far behind in terms of other municipalities, then our recruitment efforts were severely impacted and, as a result, our police officers are also working a lot of overtime.

AA

So when I'm fully staffed, then my overtime is more manageable. That's where some of the funding for these increases come from. The second component is that we looked at sick time, so one of the things that has really been an impact on us as an organization is that when our public sector employees leave the organization, we are paying them an incredible amount of money to walk out the door. Now this is a long-standing practice and I'm, not defaulting them about that or I'm not criticizing about them.

AA

The city did what it had to do while it had to do it. I.

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AA

We're doing today, with all of our employee groups, is we're making an attempt to restructure their compensation, we're requesting some of that time back, not all of it. Some of that time back so that we have the resources to be able to fund this kind of a base, pay salary increase for this particular group.

AA

They were allowed to accumulate up to 225 days of sick time 225 days now. The thing about the payout with that is that we recruit from within, so our Patrol officers become sergeants and lieutenants and captains that's what we want, but at that rate of pay, when they're walking out the door as a sergeant or lieutenant or Captain those days accumulated into that group as well. So what we've done.

C

In terms of the future liability, can you give me an example of of that? They just so that for the general public, because I understood, but it took me a second to catch on, for they have 225 days. We.

AA

We are paying them out at their uh daily rate, so at the time that they exit the organization, whatever their current pay, is we're paying that them to that per day. So what we negotiated to help balance. This is there's a reduction of the 225 days, so they've gone from 225 to 86..

AA

That's the future liability strategy that we put in place so that we can afford this increase going forward, and the third piece that I'll share with you is that this is a one-year contract.

AA

The reason why this is a one-year contract is that we have language under this bargaining agreement that anyone hired after 2011, which is the majority of our employees today, anyone hired after 2011 has a reduced ability for what's good, gets, contributed into their final average compensation. They have a reduced benefit in terms of retiree health insurance, and these were things that were very important to this.

AA

Employee group they're also very important to us as a city, and we knew that that was going to be a longer deeper conversation for all of those Actuarial Table reasons that were mentioned before. So. As a result, we were able to get the union to agree that we would do a one-year contract so that we could deal with the wage issue, which is the predominant factor that we're dealing with today and then that gives us time to come back to the table early and start working on a thoughtful pension and retirement system for our employees.

AA

That is sustainable. So that's why we put those parameters that we have in this agreement. That's why, as your HR Director on behalf of the administration and the union, which has ratified this tentative agreement, I request your support of this contract.

A

Can you please answer the question in regards to the actuatorial.

AA

I cannot answer that off the top of my head. These are complicated things. We hire a whole company to do that analysis.

A

Why it was not done why it was not done.

AA

Because they have a one-year contract and I'm coming back to the table to deal with the pension issues in just a couple months. In.

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Addition command officers contract is also expiring, June 30 of 24., so in terms of alignment and what we need to do for both of those groups we'll be dealing with those issues at the same time, so that we can craft the right kind of solution for us at sustainable. Okay,.

L

Thank you, Council chair I've got a question for our Treasurer in our comptroller, but first I want to make a couple statements um under this contract.

L

Our Command offers, as mentioned before the command officers, who just got a really nice contract, really good contract. A couple months ago, they'll receive an increase because their their their their their compensation is based on the patrol officers. If the patrol officers get an increase, which is a 50 history increase in this case, then that's substantial on the on the command officers and which is going to reflect all their benefits when they retire and their pension. So that's that that could be astronomical or couldn't could be minute.

L

We don't know, and then we're asked to vote on this in my six years on city council. This was, without a doubt, the biggest contract that we've ever negotiated or had to vote on because we didn't negotiate it because we're just voting on it. A 50 raise for a lot of guys, 40 40 officers or in women, I'm, sorry and- um and another thing is- is all of our police officers Patrol officers that have been hired after 2011.

L

In their contract they have no health care after they retire and that's a that's a big issue and I know we could negotiate that next year, but to go from 40 to 60 is a big chunk. 50, you know the maximum I'd like to see is 40 to 50 this year and work on their their health care for their when they retire, because that's a big thing to a person that retires their health care. You take your your pension, big chunk of that. Believe me.

L

This guy knows big chunk of that goes right towards your health care, and uh so I mean all these numbers about what what this this is. It's Not only a raise for the police officers. It's what affects everyone up up in the next 20 30 years. As far as pensions go and uh the raises go in the future and it could, it could be yesterday, it could be more than the city can afford, but we have no idea because we never got an actuary report on what's going to cost the city in the long run,.

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I, always you know in the previous years always wanted to give the police officers Fair start in wage and I wanted to give them, but especially the ones who got hired after the 2011. I want to give him health insurance, like everybody else who being hired before, and the number is too high if I. Just look at you have 40 officers included in this is that the number of.

AA

The officers who are Patrol officers, 53 positions, 53.

W

Positions if we raise them from let's say 40 to 60., that's close to how much money million dollars how much that will affect the pension requirement. We have as City to put to work.

AA

So the patrol wage increase is 826., 655, sorry, 826, 655.94.

W

How much it comes to approximately money-wise since.

AA

You've done that that is the cost of the increase for our current uh Patrol officers and looking at vacant positions coming in at that entry-level wage. So.

W

That's annually 800, that's.

AA

That's the annual, so that is the that 826 000 number is above what we budgeted for those positions for this fiscal year.

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Effect on the pension in the long run, normally when the city gives something it's very hard for us to take it back.

W

My experience that they ask for more I would recommend that we return this to the administration until we get actuary report to see how much really it's going to affect our budget and if we can afford it, Council.

L

And one other thing, I wanted to say also, you know I want to say, I support our police, a hundred percent and I wish I could pay them. Eighty thousand dollars starting pay, and if we could afford it, you know them in the fire and all of our workers in Dearborn Heights. They deserve the highest pay of the state of Michigan or in this country, because they work hard. I I've seen the guys trimming trees today, those guys busted their butts man.

L

You should have seen how many, how much they got done in an hour up down down the street is unbelievable.

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And our fire and our Police Department, you know top top notch and they they do deserve the best, but we get. We have to look off the financial situation of this. This city and I would like our treasure to.

D

Sure, okay, this this contract was negotiated for several months and everybody involved with uh with the contract. Obviously the HR Director. We had a real attorney, a labor attorney that was actually involved with this negotiation and the Comptroller, so they did go through all the numbers and again this is only for one year and for somebody to come in, you know a person that used to work for the city and again you know we are filing grievance against this guy.

D

You know for him to just come up and mislead the residents, and he was part of the problem during when, when his presence here misfied as the council about what he mentions and again he was part of the problem.

D

I'd want to get into more of that because there will be an agreements in being like grievance, but this was several months of negotiations with the police and it was voted on unanimously by that by the police officers and they looked at, they did look at the numbers and again this is only for one year and there was a lot of work and due to the lack of work in the previous administration and the person that was sitting next to me back in the day, you know that's, we are at the where we're at because of somebody like him, and we are trying to get back on track and take management rights.

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Was done again in the audience? I'm! Sorry I'm, sorry mayor, please in the audience please this is a city council meeting. This is not an audience meeting. If you prefer to speak, it's no problem, but then you got to go outside and speak to each other. Please no comments inside the audience. Thank you. Brother Samira,.

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Again, we have a lot of police officers, a lot of candidates and there's a lot of police officers from other departments. They're lined up to come and work for the city so by you guys not approving this contract. That's on you guys, so you guys answer to the residents. Okay, why these officers are not coming to.

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The different nights- and we do have several.

D

Candidates, not just the seven you mentioned uh Council chair. We have several other candidates that applied as well. So, okay.

A

Councilwoman I.

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Like the mayor said, I want to reiterate this is a one-year contract and our Police Department is worth a million dollars a year guys they really are. Thank you.

D

Hr Director mentioned you know we took out some from one area as she mentioned with the days. You know we are going to recover that from what she talked about and also again.

D

This is only for for one year and, as we all know here how many times we've talked about this for the past few years, with the overtime just being an increase over time, and that's what really hurt us the most is that excessive amount of overcome that was used by some, and so we are going to cut a lot of of that stuff off. When we're we get more officers on the road.

A

I'm thousand next and then councilman, constant and you'll, be after that um I I tell you personally I'm in full support of this. um You want to get officers, I mean we could talk pensions, we could talk Health Care. These are all important, but at the end of the day, most young officers applying for jobs if everybody else's pains, I've seen them myself in the newspapers, 62, 65, 56, 000, 55, 000 and so on and so on and so on.

A

uh Detroit was paying if I'm not mistaken, 60 plus or 58 somewhere around there, almost 60 000. you're not going to be able to attract any of the new officers or the veteran officers to come in here. I do know, I do understand some of the concerns about you know: pensions, etc, etc. But let me tell you something: this affects your property values, also because if you don't have enough officers in the city patrolling and keeping us safe, you're going to see your property values go down.

A

I know that's a big statement to make, but that's facts. So we have to get enough officers and I'd be the first one to say. As a resident I'd be willing to pay more taxes, if that's what it's going to cost to make sure there's enough officers to keep my family safe, so 60 000 is not a lot of money. They've been paid, 40 000 for years and years and years and previous to that thirty two thousand- that is absolutely ridiculous, and it's impossible to attract people to come into our city.

A

We should all fully support it and whatever it takes, will move this thing forward. uh Councilman, constant and councilman will be doing. Thank.

K

You Council chair two points number one. uh This was collectively bargained the Police Officers Association approved it. We wouldn't do an Actuarial report before it's approved. It would be a waste of money. Number one number, two, it's going to cost more, but with inflation, inflation being high, the actual net costs, I mean someone can eyeball it and number number three. An Actuarial report for this is going to cost at least ten thousand dollars. So we get an Actuarial report. This is going to cost a lot more money.

K

Then what do we do that we we voted down. No I, don't think so. That's not what I'm hearing saying so, um uh possibly the Comptroller or uh the some people on the pension board can compute. Let us eyeball what it'll cost us additionally, like I, said or our comptroller or that office, but to not approve it to do an Actuarial report that will cost more money. It's not going to change the outcome.

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Thank you, councilman Council chair. You know this is like this is like a tug of war right, we're stuck on each side. uh You know, is this kind of you know? Can a city afford this, but could the city also afford to only pay police officers?

C

Forty thousand dollars a year, I'm gonna tell you right now nobody wants to come to the urban Heights one because of you know, there's been a lot of things out, but at the police department and people are watching us I think the chief got up here and said it and uh you know and I think almost every single person in this room and I'm gonna name him Sue, Rachel, uh definitely Angie and and my favorite redhead there's. You know a lot of residents that are sitting in here today who have been fighting saying.

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We want more police officers or you're not going to get more police officers at forty thousand dollars when you can go down the street to Westland and make it at sixty two thousand dollars plain and simple. If I'm a police officer today and I'm risking my life on the line, why not I don't want to come to Dearborn Heights?

C

Because how controversial it's been and number two I don't want to come to the overnight, because it's only forty thousand dollars, I'll go to Dearborn or I'll, go to Westland very easy, but we need to be a welcoming City, and in order to do so, we must pay our police officers now I get the whole punching thing. That's going on, I mean look if we can't afford to pay somebody's pension or pay somebody's health care for the rest of their lives.

H

And we have to understand that these are tough decisions that we're going to have to make and I don't want.

C

To make that decision, my brother was a police officer, my brother-in-law's, a police officer, my.

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Father worked for the UAW for 30 years and if my father lost his pension or health insurance he'd be.

C

Very very upset, but I think this is moving forward. I, think the Norman's become with this younger generation me being myself. If I'm going to take a job to be able to raise my family with today's inflation rates, I'm going to tell you how it's going to work am I going to go work for Westland.

C

It's going to offer me 62, 000, no health or you know, health insurance up until I retire, am I going to come to Dearborn Heights and make forty thousand dollars of struggle for the next 30 Years, potentially so that I can have a retirement.

C

I mean to me the decision that I'm gonna make I'm going to take the 62 000 and I'll worry about my health insurance.

H

When I get older, maybe I'll find a job at Home, Depot or something that's gonna offer.

C

Me, health insurance, so it's gonna be a little easy or maybe I'll come back and work for the city, but ultimately, right now in today's decision it's very tough I heard what the gentleman spoke I've heard from the residents that called me, I've heard what two of my colleagues here stated, but I also I also know that we have officers 53 of men and women that are working in the police department, they're making forty thousand.

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Dollars a year starting pay.

C

It's not competitive, it's not fair, and this is affecting people's livelihood.

H

You want to put your child in in daycare. Guess what that officer in the urban life can't do that they don't have that luxury.

C

uh And so to me, I think this is the tentative agreement amongst the administration, a tentative agreement across uh uh the the police officers Union and look. They agreed to.

H

This I'm sure that you know back and forth have taken away, but I'm so tired of hearing from dispatch that we don't have enough officers in the street or we can't get there because we don't have officers because officers don't want to come here.

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uh So that's where I stand on this.

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That's it: okay,.

L

Councilman, Wenzel and councilman, you know I just want to really I mean this is a long-term deal. I mean we don't know if this one, five years from now that this contract, we see we're offering them twenty thousand dollar rates to sixty thousand it's a one-year contract.

L

You know why can't we give them 10 000 this year in next year's contract, give them another 10, 000 and work on their their retirement plans.

C

I just want to answer to that. I want to answer it.

L

As city councilman, we can't look at today.

L

You know we we do, but we have to look for the future of the city and we do not know if five years from now, if this deal, which I hope not because this is a great deal- and you know they agreed on who wouldn't agree on a 50 Race, you know and.

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It's like, oh, they agreed.

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It, but you know, there's it's an old-brainer. If I was there, I'd definitely vote Yes, but we don't know if this is going to be something that's going to be a big financial burden on our city in five years from now, because we might, we might have half our police force retire in the next five years. I.

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Just want to respond to it so.

L

Anyway, I want our Treasurer to speak.

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It before we do the other hand.

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C

Just want you to know, though, guys I thought of this and I asked myself that question today when I was taking a shower, I said you know.

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What, if we can't afford this, but guess what in five years we're gonna have to at least be at sixty thousand.

C

And two years are going to have to be at sixty thousand and guess what so I understand. I understand the whole pension thing. That's going on I! Don't all.

H

I could tell you, is in five years, you're going to be at the same spot, where.

C

You're at today, so you're so we're technically, all we're doing is going to be delaying the future of growth. Yeah, look inflation.

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Is up inflation's up 43 I do.

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Average person wants to buy a 200.

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An average person that wants to buy a 250 000 house in Dearborn.

C

Heights today he said make a mortgage payment of 2 900 a month, including taxes and insurance. A Dearborn Heights Police Officer cannot live in human.

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Rights in order to do so look again. This is a tug of war. Can the city of Florida point of.

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Order, let's vote so.

A

Just quickly I want to make something clear: Treasurer is going to get a chance to speak. Okay, but I want to make something clear. We did not give a 50 raise, we just made them whole. They.

F

Were way underpaid, so so I know.

A

I'm not saying you I'm, saying in general, I, don't want people to get the wrong impression. These are not people that were paid what they should have been paid based on what the market pricing is. Nowadays, okay, let's cut off the way it is it's not a super popular thing to become a police officer nowadays, with a lot of social media comments and, and the media comes, what have you so we're just making them at what normal pay is in today's society?

A

So if we want to attract the best of the best look, in my opinion, it's still too low, but that's my personal.

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Opinion I agree.

A

We've got to be even better than 60., and then you know what, if, if we have to figure out a way cut some something out of the budget to make this thing work, we got to make this thing work. uh Man.

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Treasure you had a comment: yeah.

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Can you admit yourself.

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Okay: okay, sorry about that, I cannot I have to wait to be um unmuted. Thank you. So, um first of all, I want to say I, don't believe anyone on the zoom in our community wherever doesn't support our First Responders, our police and firefighters. Okay, we can all agree that competitive wages are very important. uh We are aware that cities like Dearborn and Westland are coming in much higher, but also you cannot compare their finances to ours because that's apples to oranges, so, let's be realistic there.

S

In addition, I know this is a one-year contract, okay and it would have to be renegotiated on July, 1st 2024, but I think um you have to talk about your traditional responsibilities and say what is not only the short-term impact, but yes, there's going to be a lot of long-term impact on the pension system and opeb. Now.

S

What concerns me is that yes, I am the treasurer and I'm responsible for cash flow and know what that's like you hear from me all the time right, but I also sit on the at 3 45 commission as a trustee. What alarms me a little bit is that no one spoke to the pension attorney and I think that would have been a great starting place when we're having this conversation. That I mean because the other thing is that was mentioned and I agree with this.

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This is going to be something you do this for one you're going to have a lateral movement started. Okay, so you're gonna have to take that into consideration. We can all agree that they need something to be competitive and we all support them on that front. But let's talk about actual report, yes, it cost you money but you're talking about what is your investment on your future being able to remain solvent? What is that worth and to answer your question?

S

I was a council member for nine years and before contracts were voted on by the council, we did have an actual report. We did have a study session to discuss it and have the council members questions answered and what the impact looks like, and it really depends on the content of what you're, approving so I think. That's really important.

S

One thing I want to tell you briefly your assumption for at 3 45, which your millage is currently at nine nine Mills and most likely this impact is going to have you increase it or you will need to which means you're increasing taxes to the residents. We need to be really transparent here, but your current assumption is five percent.

S

Okay, now think about what this is going to look like I'm, just saying and again think about that you're going to have to renegotiate in a year and.

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To go down, are you going to increase, which way are you going? So that is my concerns and again it's not required, but it's recommended for your consideration and I hope. You will do that. Thank.

A

You okay, thank you so emotion made by councilwoman Breyers seconded by councilman, constant.

C

Yes, I I know we're making a vote on this I. Just I think this is also very important to our community and to us and I just want to let Margaret know that and kind of, like the treasurer said, there's going to be a lateral movement. May.

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I add one more piece of information. Yes,.

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Public sector employees has been healthy enough to issue a 13th check so instead of just getting one check per month for 12 months as part of the pension, when we are funded in a healthy enough way and we can afford to do it- we give a 13th check to our retirees Okay, so we've been doing that for the last few years.

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So if there is an increase in that cost, then part of the pension rules are that maybe we don't issue the 13th check, so all is not lost. Okay, there's more information to come. Yes, but this is a frame deal so that we can again thoughtfully proactively figure out what our retirement needs to look like for our Public Safety going forward. Okay, thank you. I just I just want.

C

To add on you know, look I'm, I'm, no secret, huge, huge supporter for our First Responders love, our police love our fire, but I'm. A huge supporter of our fire department, uh uh Margaret I'm, a huge supporter of our fire department and, uh like she said this isn't gonna, be a lateral movement and I.

C

Don't only and I hope that the aspiration for the fire department is just as Victorious defining a tentative agreement, and uh you know seeing that the men and women that put their life out on the line every because I know we don't have a ton of a great tentative agreement with them right now. uh But I really hope to God that we find common ground so that we can have that kind of agreement and we're just as supportive to our fire department. We're.

AA

Bargaining with them- and you may recall, just a few months ago, we made a market adjustment with dispatch. We gave a very large raise to dispatch same kind of wage suppression issue, we're currently bargaining with tpom. We also have a wage suppression issue with that group within the confines of the resources we have we're trying to address all of these things so going forward. We aren't looking at 10 18 12 increases. Anything that we have going forward is one percent, maybe two percent for these groups.

AA

So again you know we're trying to adjust to where we are so that we can be competitive and hire in staff. The key thing we need to do for the success of this organization is: we need to be able to staff okay.

A

Thank you. Let's go ahead and put this to a vote.

W

So should I ask you to give me permission. Oh thank.

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It's just one directly I'm.

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Just gonna make that this is good fight.

W

To keep the dispatch in Dearborn when they want in Dearborn Heights, when they wanted to move it to Dearborn Heights identified.

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Wanted to move it to Dearborn, but I I thought to keep it in.

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We preserved the jobs in the safety of our people and I did fight to establish the trust, I believe 105 to cover the 170 million dollars. Approximately. We have liability for the for the after retirement liabilities. I fought for that and we established it with treasurer Lisa Hicks in Ray and Tom I'm, not against the police officers, but it is wise on our part financially to know what we are doing to vote on something we might regret later on.

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It doesn't hurt if we ask for actuary report and we vote on it in emergency or a special meeting next Tuesday or the next meeting. This is a big decision. It involve millions of dollars and it is not just today it's into the future, and it is our responsibility to know what we vote enough.

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Okay, controller.

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Yes, hello, thank you. I do have one comment: I wanted to just state that our revenue for the city right now is at 60 million, and this is going to cost us 4 million.

Z

Okay, that's less than eight percent, and that's your police officers, and once you are revved up where you have enough, your your overtime is going to go down, you're going to be able to get Revenue back just by having them out there, selling tickets, not selling but giving out tickets and- and one last thing I wanted to say it was not a 50 increase. It was a 22 percent increase.

Z

46 000 to 60., and it was a 22 percent increase.

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Intermedia is 40 to 60. Tom.

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Injection into any comments anything about it.

C

Yeah he said he said a number of guys. Let's move on okay, okay, all.

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Finally, finally, we have been in negotiations with these people and if we don't have undergo a contract with them, we're not going to have any police officers can.

C

I ask can I ask the control additional question.

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Okay, this will be last one last question.

C

You you are in charge of our books, you, alongside plant Moran, yes, you've been looking at our books in day in and day out, yes, and on the record on September 26th Tuesday September 26th at 7, 41 PM with 46 seconds on the clock. Can you tell us that this is not going to affect us.

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Affect you, obviously it's always going to affect you when you're spending money, but you have to find it from somewhere else. That's what we're doing we're pulling it from overtime, we're pulling it from trying to get people to give up some of their time. It's going to I will find the money it's not going to bankrupt us. If that's what you're asking.

C

So you said: okay, that's exactly what I'm asking.

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Yes, we, this will not bankrupt us. Okay,.

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Let's go ahead and take some stuff to a vote all in favor, please State I I any opposed! Yes, no! No! No! Council chair can you please take well I'm an advertick, but uh Dave.

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Robert constant.

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Moby doing yes, no Nancy Breyer! Yes,.

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Council, chair, I'm, I'm voting. No because we're we're voting. Yes, the council members are avoiding. Yes, are voting yes on this raise for our police officers, which they deserve. A hundred percent on.

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This total contract, yeah and.

L

And but they're they don't they're voting on something they don't know. The long-term effects on um I want to vote Yes on this race. This is the sixty thousand dollars and more next year. If we, if we can afford it, okay, but I, want to vote I'm voting, no because I don't know the long-term effects on this okay. So the vote was.

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Normal Fortune 4-2 motion carried. Thank you guys. Next item on the agenda is item 9C. Thank you, director, Council.

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Chair are we going to get an actuary or no no.

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At this particular point, no, unless.

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Somebody makes a.

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A separate motion that uh either this counsel me or a different Council.

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Item nine Council.

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Chair councilman removed at the Dearborn Heights city council authorized the purchase of 120 PCS from e-link for Peter and staff use at both City libraries for cost not to exceed Thirty One Thousand. Four hundred and forty dollars addition authorize the mayor and comptroller or clerk to sign the necessary warrants and the treasures to issue payment from account number 738-738-808 as part of a grant previously authorized by Council, as outlined in 9C support.

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Okay by councilman, be doing any discussion on this hearing. None on favor, please State, I I any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on our agenda is item 9d police, Support, Services, director, Vander, blaub.

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Council chair councilwoman I'd like to make the motion that the Dearborn Heights city council approved the purchase of one holy graphic, High secure or be designed ID card printer for a cost not to exceed 8 424 dollars to replace the current non-functional ID card printer at the Justice Center in addition, authorized American, comptroller or clerk to sign the warrant and any future warrants and authorize the treasurer to issue payments from the Jag a grant fund. So it's coming from a grant 101.

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300-981-056, and also to inform the police department when funds are received from the county, as outlined in 9d, support.

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Okay motion made by councilwoman, Breyer and seconded by councilman discussion on that Council chair.

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Councilman are all the funds coming the 8422 uh twenty four dollars. Are you coming all all out of the Jag.

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uh That's what it said in uh is that correct.

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And in the details, yes, I'm.

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That's correct, correct.

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All right, thank you. Yes, okay, so all in favor, please State Eye any opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on agenda is item 9e police, Support, Services, Director, Van, Der, plot Council,.

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Chair councilman I move that the Dearborn Heights city council approved the purchase of 10 nikan Z50, mirrorless, digital cameras, bags, SIM cards cases and tripods for a total cost not to exceed 14 134.57.

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In addition, authorize the mayor and comptroller or clerk to sign the warrant and any future warrants and authorize the treasurer to issue payments from the Jade Grant fund, 101, 300 981-056, and also to inform the police department where funds are received when funds are received from the county is outlined at nine e.

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Motion made by councilman Constance seconded by Jose, councilman or councilman Breyer foreign.

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I I just want to make a quick statement to the directors I I. Thank you for going after more and more grants because uh those are in the audience um they're getting basically money from the federal government instead of out of our own Pockets. So this is good stuff. Thank you.

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Gotten so many grants.

D

For the city, including the cameras, you know a lot of stuff that was neglected in the past. You know, I do want to commend both directors and our chief that they have gotten us a lot of money, a lot of Grants a lot of equipment, and you know, on top of it. We have the Department of Justice that just you know, just a few weeks back, they sent some of our officers trainings in in Colorado, for community policing. So and it's all the leadership of the both directors and the Chiefs.

D

So I know that stuff is not being talked about, but there's a lot of great things that they're doing at the police station, including Department of Justice they'll, do a lot of changes, and these guys they're here and I, want everybody to know that they we asked them to come and typically they would charge us approximately 500 000 an hour per person to come and do what they're doing right now and you know what they're paying for it and they're actually giving us grants to do certain things. So I do want to commend our leadership.

D

Both director sword Director, Van de plow and chief hearts for doing an amazing job and try to transition a police department to a world-class Police Department. Okay, thank you, gentlemen.

A

All right any other discussions on this hearing, none all in favor, please stay at aye aye, any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on the agenda is ordinances and resolutions.

A

11A anyone Council.

K

A

K

I moved at the Dearborn Heights city council approved the resolution regarding the liquor license held by the city for Warren Valley Golf Course appointing mayor, Bazi and Chief of Staff. Hernandez has authorized signatures for any for all documents related to the approval of removal.

K

Excuse me: removal of ornida golf Services as co-licensee on the Michigan liquor license for the Warren Valley Golf Course, in addition instruct the city clerk to notify the Michigan Liquor Control Commission of these appointments, as required by law, as outlined in 13. A second.

A

Okay motion made by councilman, constant and seconded by councilwoman Breyer and discussion Council chair Osman.

L

I, just I don't understand why um we're specifying two people only to make all authorized signatures on any document. That's related to this in the future and soon the documents come before city council, and then we say we approve it. We approved the mayor or the chief of staff to sign these documents, because what does this mean? What what documents are they talking about? It doesn't say anywhere in here what kind of documents we're okaying them to sign. Okay,.

A

The only thing I want to clarify councilman is this is just in regards to the liquor license. Yes,.

F

Only so this is nice, so.

A

It's not profits, hypothetically from liquor, uh Warren Valley Golf course this or that it is specifically getting the liquor license for Warren Valley Golf Course. uh Somebody from the side spoke I. Don't know who was is that you Roger.

E

Well, yeah I'd say it's it's requirements. We've looked through all the paperwork, it's what the the like licensing commission requires, and you got to get an item that hasn't been working with us they're off the contract. This is a procedural matter, anything else, nothing with substance. Simply the procedure requirements that they that they.

D

Require Council, chair and and also I'm, sorry, and also on top of it. You guys have seen the same thing when we put Oneida on several years ago and I think was 29 19. So it's the same process. We need to remove them in order to do that. We have to put this resolution.

C

In place, Council chair, okay, councilman I actually spoke with the attorney. That's working on this um and he explained to me and walked me through it. uh You have to remove Oneida, and then you can uh add whomever we're adding so I might just want you to know that I actually did you know I made the research and I made the phone calls and you have to remove Oneida before you can do it so before you can open it up. It's like an escrow.

L

So this is strictly only for removing Oneida from the liquor license.

D

Read the resolution well.

L

D

Not a lawyer, that's why we have a guy.

L

Over there sitting, there.

D

Well, that's what he put on the agenda. Sorry! What was that? That's? Why you put on the on the agenda? Because the attorney looked at it: okay,.

A

uh Any other discussions on this.

L

Council transfer, making clear this is only for removal of a creative from it's not issuing a new or applying for a new liquor license. No, we.

E

License out of escrow so okay and it was an escrow. So this is just the procedural like I said, the procedural part, not the substantive form, Roger.

L

Is this something that we have a license and, like you said it's an escrow and we're just going to keep it and then put someone else on it in the future in the near future? No, we.

E

Took along with the city, we've taken, yeah we're taking out an escrow, but to do certain things there were stuff done before I not done before. I came on board and then we started. That's why we brought other Council in to help us uh to negotiate with the Liquor License Commission. To make sure this is fine. Okay, all right.

L

E

A

You, sir, thank you. uh Let's go ahead and put this to a vote all in favor, please stay at aye aye, any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on our agenda is item 13A business license.

C

Councilman I moved that to Dearborn Heights city council. Renew the business license for Randy's Robindale bar at 25122 Warren is outlined in 13A support.

A

Okay motion made by councilman Bay Dunes seconded by councilman constant any discussion on that: okay, uh well, just quickly I've. Ever they got great fish. Sandwiches I've not tried, though.

C

A

That's what I heard I haven't tried. It I keep forgetting to try it. So maybe I'll remember now: Council.

C

Chairs a little bit about Randy's, that was the spot right after uh yeah.

A

I know the college yeah didn't try their fish sandwich, so try it out all right, let's go ahead and take it to a vote. All favor, please stay high aye any opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on our agenda is comments from Council Members Council, chair councilman,.

C

uh um Well, school is back. um You know, I I want to thank our police officers. I saw most recently um driving through the neighborhood driving to Riverside I, believe I. Actually, I was a little kind of thrown off. Maybe some cops at Riverside. It kind of threw me off, but I was like whoa am I getting pulled over, uh but luckily I was only doing 35 in a school zone, so uh on hold on hold on beach daily beach daily is 35.

A

C

Maybe we need some place.

C

But really guys look I know. Today we made a decision to make a vote. A lot of you guys in here. All you guys are all all my friends and we had to make a tough, tough, tough, tough decision uh and I was really stuck between I mean even the last second I didn't know what word was going to come out of my mouth really my mind was saying something: my heart was feeling something my lips said.

C

Something so I want you to know that I genuinely appreciate every single one of you guys and uh you know, continue to fight the good fight. um Congratulations to Mr, Abdul, heck, uh I'm gonna. Tell you uh to please: uh let's do what's best moving our city forward and I. Think, ultimately, you know there's been some chatter. Oh my God, including myself, uh but I hope that you know that chatter goes away and you can prove everybody wrong and we just want to do the.

W

Right things, I didn't know that I'm so scared.

A

Be scary, so just a quick comment, I I know I spoke in regards to all the candidates. I wish you guys all the best, I I, really honestly and truly like every candidate. This was a very difficult decision, but a lot of candidates got to understand. I mean you can only pick one. You can't pick. You know it's hard and I took completely out of the equation, who I like or don't like or friends with or whatever, because honestly the decision cannot be based on that.

A

It's got to be based on who I felt would have the most experience to be able to serve for such a short time period and the other big criteria was they had to be on the ballot in my my eyes, so that was the main criteria that I I used amongst the other criteria. But at this particular point, I want to take just a moment of silence for just 10 seconds in in a second I'll we'll go there.

A

um First of all, I want to commend the Dearborn Police Department for for a very good job. As far as the investigation is concerned, unfortunately, about a week back, um my cousin's son also somebody I've done business with also somebody that I know Mr Hassan salami, his family lives in Dearborn. Heights, unfortunately, was I'll, just say: I, don't care murdered.

A

um You know during a armed robbery and uh very unfortunate, very sad time for the whole family, including of course myself. At the last council meeting, I came in half hour late and didn't even know what my mind was: just not there uh 29 years old, I I hope he gets his Justice and I hope the the the three uh leave it blank that did it perpetrators.

A

They get their Justice too, because it's a it's a very, very sad situation for the family, uh long time, business, people in the city of Dearborn, uh Dearborn, Heights residents, um you don't want to see the family in the situation they're in uh for a mother to bury her son at 29 years old, with a very, very sad situation and honestly in the same week, I lost another cousin, so God Rest her soul too, uh but this was hard for somebody to lose their life like that.

A

So for Mr, Hassan salami I, don't say just just a moment of silence, please 10 seconds. Thank you.

A

Thank you very much any other comments from council members.

L

Council, chair councilman, thank you. Council chair um this past Saturday me and my family. Had the pleasure of attending the uh outdoorm family movie night at swapka Park put on by our Parks and Recreation Department had a fantastic turnout. It was a really good time really good movie. It's a little got a little bit cold and everyone's wrapped up in their blankets. It was probably pretty cool to see all the families out there and you know hustling up with each other and but the district 7 dad's Club, that's a concession profits from the concession stand.

L

It was a very very good evening and next time they have one of these I hope uh we have even more people attending there's a lot of things coming up with, especially with our senior centers come in the near future and I hope. Our our Parks and Rec director Lauren cell is on. She could talk about things coming up and real soon and um I want to congratulate our Police Department getting a raise.

L

um This is some I'm 100 for the raise even more next year, probably a couple years after that is that they deserve it, the stuff that they put through in all of our First Responders, and let's hope that we do the same for our fire department, equal raises and our tpom Personnel. Let's give them the huge races that they deserve. Let's go right across the board with this and uh um I was just wondering. uh Council counselors here uh is Miss Smith. Here no comptroller HR Director I was wondering when this this race takes effect.

L

How soon can our officers expect to get this on their paycheck? Does anybody know it.

N

Says July 1st through next year, July.

L

N

L

Year, the start of the next fiscal year, July 1st, that's when this.

N

Takes me back is.

L

This July, it.

N

Was retroactive are.

L

They gonna get a retroactive pay.

AA

L

Yeah, are they okay? Well.

AE

Congratulations.

L

Guys and girls- that's that's a that's a a very good thing that you've got and um I want to I want to congratulate our candidates, especially Mr Abdul Hawk. Here um all the candidates that were here I talked to all of you and I know you have the best intentions for the city of Dearborn Heights.

L

Your input to me personally has meant a lot, and it's made me think a lot about issues in the city and uh thank you for all for taking time out and dressing up real nice and coming to the meeting and uh one other thing out of those kind of a sad note. um This October 14th will be the one year anniversary of uh the death of Joey. Smith was killed on his bicycle on the corner of party in Annapolis, together with his mother and Margaret King they're planning a memorial service on that intersection.

L

I spoke with the fire and police department and we were given advice. Maybe we should have at the Richard A Young Center, but after speaking with the family, they're dead, set and I'm, along with the the event the memorial is going to take place on uh Saturday October 14th in the evening, Civic time will be coming up, but we secured the property at Pardee school. So we won't have to be in the intersection itself.

L

C

Whole grass actually October 14th at what time. Well.

L

I I, we're not 100 sure, probably about starting about nine o'clock, is something like that because he was he was killed around 10 o'clock going to.

C

Do 9 p.m? You said yeah.

L

So we'll come up with the exact time to meet there and the details on it and I want to thank Chief broker from the fire department and our Police Department.

L

um The officer slope who I've had Communications with and I will have some future communications with him on this issue, but uh this is a very worthwhile event and it's for a tragedy and let's keep fighting for the school safety and crossings and crossings, it's safety for all of our residents throughout the city. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman any other.

A

Council members.

A

X

No, she wasn't going to do announcements.

W

X

That's later, oh.

A

W

Okay, first I want to thank my colleagues city council for giving me the confidence and the trust that you appointed me for a third time: Treasurer city, council and city council. That means a lot to me and I hope. I will prove everybody wrong. That I will do whatever it takes. Even if I make a very hard decision, which is good for the city and for the residents and for our employees of the city. That's my priority. That's my goal and I'm.

W

Not here, don't please anybody I'm here just to do what is right in what is within the borders of the chart. Simple and easy I want to share with everybody in the city. During covet, my wife had 100 percent of Blackish.

W

If it wasn't for our fire department from our doorsteps to the operation room, she would have died. That happened in less than five minutes between a 354, Rosemary and Garden City.

W

So anybody who doubt that I love my fire department and police department and I want to give them the best I can within the borders of our fiscal capability, will be wrong and doesn't know me.

W

It is our responsibility to make sure that the money we spend it's spent right. It's suspend to benefit the public, the resident of the city and to spend wisely and that's why I am going to ask to suspend the rules to put the motion to ask for to actually report about the contract of the police department, which we just approved. At least we know for the future what we have on our ends.

A

Okay, um let's just see, first of all, if there's any other uh council member comments not on this in general for themselves. Okay, you're in none Council, so go go ahead, go ahead! Okay!

A

So you go ahead and you want to make the motion see if it gets a second and we'll go ahead and take it to a discussion of all yeah.

W

So first ones to suspend the rules. I will make motion to suspend the rules, support.

A

Motion made to suspend Rules by councilman seconded back councilman Bay Dune. Any discussion on that Council.

K

Chair councilman, so we're making a motion to do an action where no.

A

No, no, this one is because.

K

A

Order to have a motion added that is not on the agenda right. It had not been published. You have to suspend the rules. You make the motion once it's. If, if it passes, then it would have to be another motion for the actuary before so.

K

That's what we're.

A

Right right now, correct.

W

A

So the the only X Factor and I and I thought about that this has to be addressed if we request one. So, let's just pick a number, whether it's one dollar, two million or 80 billion we've already approved the contract.

A

It wouldn't make any difference, so the only issue would be if this is going to be added would be whether we it would be dependent whether the contract would be dependent on what you find out now, because we've already approved the contract. So we found out in this report- I, don't say it's useless, but the contract's already approved.

W

Council chair, we spending so much money on the contract and increases in things. I think this is a very big small fraction of the cost.

A

And I apologize because I know we're going to go into a longer discussion. So that's four unsuspending the rules. First and then you can make this motion and we'll go and discuss it from there, so so motion made by constantly by councilman Bay doing the suspend the rules any other discussions on that. Yes,.

K

A

Mean on the report.

K

What suspension yeah, I I understand, but just suspend the rules to add this. Not just reiterate I just heard the mayor say you can we can get an actual report. I heard you say correctly, we've ordered it.

P

K

Done it's not going to make any difference exception. I heard the Comptroller Say it'll cost us about an additional 4 million.

A

No, oh, not for the report. Okay for the for the the contract right; okay. So let's go ahead and uh vote on suspending the rules, specifically only all in favor, please State Eye any opposed! No.

B

L

No, we should add more further discussion. Council chair, we had no discussion before we voted and you said, let's wait.

C

Holding Justice, this is just to suspend.

A

The rules I know at this point.

C

L

Was made and then then you had to discuss it.

A

L

A

Problem I will hold off on the vote. Madam clerk God, you know, I have another. The.

L

Reason you know this: the contract was passed, but we've got another contract with them next year. One year from now, this would be instrumental various of metal in dealing with them next year say: oh, you know what, by the way, we've got a ton more money. We can give them more money next year or whoa whoa whoa it. You know we got this actuary and you got what you got right now and we're not going to take that away from you. But any further thing we have to think about.

L

The actuator is very important to for this contract and are dealing with them in just one year from.

A

Now, okay, let's have no further discussion on the actual report at this point right now. It's just on suspended rules. So let's go ahead and take that to a vote. uh Madam clear can please take a roll call. Okay,.

B

Okay, no grammar, constant, no body. Do yes, yes, Nancy bringer.

N

B

B

That's gonna be a time it.

C

Doesn't matter it doesn't pass.

A

Okay motion failed, uh keep in mind uh council members. You could also if this is important, you bring it as a resolution or just at the next console, maybe add an agenda: okay, uh any announcements from council members and administration. Yes, tomorrow.

N

Night at 6 00 p.m. We have the e-course Creek meeting if anyone would care to attend, but even more importantly, on Thursday at 6 30 PM, we will have sponsored by the South Dearborn Heights civic association, a candidate Forum. This is for the November election and the five candidates that are running for three positions. If you come, you will be able to ask questions. There will also be questions provided. So if you want more information on these people, please make it your business to show up tomorrow or Thursday night 6, 30., 28.

K

At the Westwood.

N

At Westwood, Community uh School District the admin building it's on beach, daily 3335, South, Beach, Daily.

K

O

K

I'd just like to thank uh Mike Blackburn for coming in on Saturday, we had a several year reunion for the graduates of Annapolis High School at swapka, Park and Mike was good enough. There was an event later on that evening. The movie night come in early and unlock the bathroom, so everyone was there could use it. So thank you. Mike Blake.

C

I thought you were saying he graduated with you, I was going to say whoa.

K

He graduated from Harvard.

A

Okay, any other announcements from Administration clerk.

D

B

Thank you, mayor I'm, Lynn, senya city clerk, Dearborn, Heights um I'm. Here with some election news, we have a general city, election, School, November, 7th 2023 and our office as well as our election pit crew has been busy uh preparing the absentee ballots for mailing, and this Thursday they'll be taken over to the Dearborn Post Office for mailing, we'll have our booths up in them and they'll be up. The ballots will be available on Thursday um ballot boxes will be open.

B

The return, Navy ballot boxes located here at the city um at the Justice Center, our newest one and at the JFK Library, and then um just a reminder to our candidates to review your sign ordinances, the ordinance for the city I, don't believe they can. The signs can go up until 30 days before the election, 30.

C

Or 45 30. October 7th to November 7th.

B

Yes, whoa Nancy knows that ordinance, yes and follow the instructions on in the ordinance I think the biggest one, the biggest violation is, make sure it's not on the property between the sidewalk and the the street, because that doesn't um it's an obstruction, tune drivers and then anyone learn looking to join our team. We're always looking for an election inspectors step by our officer, give us a call at 791-3439. Thank you.

C

I think Council the councilman uh chair wants to join the team. Sure yeah.

F

The golden guys first.

M

Of all, congratulations.

A

Congratulations to all the candidates uh uh are in the elections. uh You know, anti-pacific duties is just so honorable, so uh hats off to all you guys, but let's hope we don't get on the news by the stealing of signs, whether it's yourselves or any of your supporters. You know the last thing we need to do when I was to have that on the news as other cities have had so please, no stealing signs respect the United States Constitution.

A

If somebody wants to run whether you like them, don't like them want to vote for them, don't want to vote for them. Stealing signs come on. It's so petty and childish. Let's not do that. Mary had some. You want to say yeah.

D

A couple of things uh at the police station they had a couple weeks back, uh an auto show, so it was officer certel actually I wanted to. uh That was his first annual that he host he organized and with the help several officers you know just for to build. You know morale, camaraderie and just to bring the community get together. They had their first annual Auto Show at the police station parking lot in the front. It was very successful, so I want to convince officer certo for doing a good job, showed great leadership and.

D

Also from this morning's meeting with the Wayne County, just to give you an update for the Ecorse Creek, so there's been, some chatter uh just want to make sure the residents are, you know, get the right information.

D

We have right now, two communities, one out forbid uh from Wayne County since they're in charge of the e-course Creek, so Lincoln Park and Ecorse city of e-course they're, the first they're Downstream, so they're looking at them first, you know obviously they're going to work Downstream, you can't work. Upstream, you know fix the issue, then every it can have a bigger flow going. Downstream is going to cause bigger problems, so they're starting down Downstream of the e-course Creek.

D

So they started with two: both communities: the e-course City and Lincoln Park- uh that they're going out for bid currently to clean those two areas. They did send a mailer to Dearborn Heights residents, who are affected by the a course Greek or actually on the Ecorse Creek affected. What I mean by that is they're actually on the e-course, Creek and they're the residents who will actually have to work with the county, so they can get on on their property to get to the Ecorse Creek to clean up.

D

So the residents of Dearborn Heights who are affected did get a notice. uh The county will be meeting with the individuals uh on one-on-one first and they will be hosting also a town hall with all the residents to tell them like exactly what they're doing and that's not going to be uh this year. uh It will be sometime late spring next year is when Dearborn Heights will have our turn.

D

So as of right now, it's only Lincoln Park and Ecorse City, and hopefully, by mid to late April next year, the county will be meeting a lot of residents one-on-one, who they have to go into on their property to get to that Creek and they'll. Let us know when they'll host a town hall meeting, so they can get everybody involved, anybody that is affected by the creek they can come to the meeting.

D

Anybody has any questions they can reach out to my office. As of right now, that's that's. What was the latest as of this morning and that's that's. The most accurate information I want to make sure residents are aware, because there's been a lot of misinformation out there regarding the cleanup.

AD

Okay, thank you mayor.

A

Our library, director, McCaffrey guy hello,.

X

Council, chair and mayor Jess wanted to talk about a couple of items. First off I want to thank all the businesses and organizations that supported our open house at Caroline, County Library. Thank you, Antonio's a delight: creative Style, Salon, manal beauty, salon mango languages, math Noggin, noora, overdrive, Phoenix, medical equipment, some hot Bakery, Starbucks, Texas, Roadhouse and zagwul. Also thank you, mayor bobazi, Treasurer, Lisa, Hicks, Clayton, Clerk, linsenia access, the League of Women Voters of the genealogical society, DPW, the police department and Wayne County Wayne Health mobile clinic for your support and participation.

X

I had a great deal of activity handed out over 340 lanyards, so good work. Everyone for promoting literacy in your community also Saturday October 28th from 6 to 8 pm at Carolyn, Kennedy Library, where we'll be having our annual trunk Retreat and spooky mini golf mini golf to help benefit. Good Fellows come join us as we hand out, treats and play mini golf in the library with proceeds going to the Dearborn Heights Goodfellows. We are looking for whole sponsors at 50 per hole and lots of trunks, so the program has free to the public.

X

Any donations made are suggested Ralphie, the Christmas ghost may be making appearance so come on out call 313-791-3804 is my phone number if you are interested. uh Finally, this Saturday September 30th from 7 30 to 9 30 at Carolyn, Kelly Library, we'll be having an outdoor showing of the movie Elemental. The movie was shown on the patio chairs, Elemental, swag and refreshments will be provided case of poor weather. The movie will be done inside uh on a uh more somber note, Switching gears a little bit.

X

uh I would like to request a moment of silence for someone who passed last Sunday a gentleman by the name of Anthony rasidlo. He was on our police commission. He did a lot of volunteer work for the city. He helped run a lot of cert meetings and he did a lot of things. Basically at no charge, he wrote the history of Dearborn Heights in our 50th Anniversary Book, and he passed last Sunday. So I'd like a moment of silence. Please.

X

Thank you. Thank you. Director Library will also be at the Bedford Trunk or Treat. It's going to be at the Fire Department open house as well handing out crafts, and that's all for now, thanks for your time and see you all at the library. Thank you thanks.

L

Director good job David.

N

Mr Jamal's got his hand now.

A

Yeah I know, let's just make sure anybody else from the administration have Council chair.

L

Yes, you know: um I I failed to mention that um me and my family were at the uh the police station uh car show and the kids loved it. They had some really cool setups there. With these little bikes and cars you ride around and uh several cars and there's there's plenty of room for more cars and the cars that were. There were really nice, my little guy, he just loves them Corvettes and the hot rods and the big four-wheelers, but we had.

L

He was especially impressed with the giant Towing rig that was there uh over a million dollars. It cost and they hoisted a big American flag up there and he, my guy Caden, he just loves American flag and and he's seen that thing going up in the air. He I thought this I was so impressed and uh hats off to all those guys, I believe it wasn't.

L

uh Jgc Towing yeah that supplied JPC or JT Towing yeah, okay, yeah those guys they brought in these big rigs, and it was very impressive and uh put on a really good show. Congratulations to everyone from the police department that was involved with that I mean I, know me and my family and everyone that was there had a great time. Thank you.

H

A

You yeah I'm gonna, go ahead and do that? Okay, so let's go ahead uh with uh before we go to public constant project. uh Director Jamal you had a comma from Administration.

A

I can't hear you.

O

I can't hear you here, he goes.

AF

Are you hearing me now, yes, he's in.

L

AF

Good afternoon it's just an announcement um for the ecos creek houses that the some of the residents applied in October I mean in March 2021. We got the grant from FEMA three million dollars for 16 homes. They approved all the homes who applied and they will be hearing from myself and my community and economic development department. Soon the grant agreement will be on the city council and the first meeting in October for their approval, and we will contact them.

AF

Please be patient, we will be contacting you, I have all your phone numbers and if I can't reach you by phone, we will be knocking on the doors with our badges for the ones who applied in October 2021 25 homes they all initially approved. We are waiting for the final approval from the main office in Chicago. We will inform you soon.

AF

Hopefully this will help the residents who cannot take it anymore until we find a solution for hopefully soon for the equals click flood. This is not a solution for the flood. This is only a relief from the misery of the flood. We are working together on securing more funding from FEMA to mitigate the flooding of the equals Creek, including the county. You have a great night and please be patient. We just get the approval from FEMA for those 15 homes that being applied for in March of 2021.

AF

This is normal process between 18 and 24 months for approval. Congratulations for Dearborn Heights on those grants, and it only gonna cost the city 10 percent match and that match. I am walking diligently to try to security from other grants, which is the cdbg Community Development block grant disaster relief. Hopefully we will be getting that. Thank you match. Thank you. uh Thank you uh share and congratulations for a new council member uh Mr Abdul hack. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

L

You know what a great job this guy is doing and believe me, if he calls you and you don't answer, he will come by your house.

A

Y

Okay, can you hear me now? Yes, perfect?

Y

um Yes, um uh Council, uh chair, I just needed um uh an announcement to make an announcement that the gas company uh mishkan or DTE has been uh has asked us for um assistance in trying to um they're trying to contact uh citizens of the city of Dearborn. Heights Who currently have uh indoor gas meters. uh Apparently uh we have approximately 878 or 880 indoor gas meters in the city of Dearborn Heights. Now these things are in the process of being phased out because they're dangerous and they must be tested.

Y

So the gas company has been sending requests to these citizens. They will not share the list with us because it is confidential, but they asked us to um um for the city's support in telling our citizens that these are not a fake request to get access to their basements. They are actually mandated by the Michigan Public Service Commission. They have to be tested. It is a safety issue, I checked with our fire department and they agree.

Y

They've, the indoor gas meters are are a headache to everyone, because you don't know where they're located right, so um they need to be tested by the gas company and apparently a lot of people especially are senior citizens when they receive that uh request or claim from someone to say I'm in the from the gas company and I need access to your basement. They always think that it is a hoax or it's it's something that is not um uh true. uh Just need to make that announcement. It is true.

Y

The gas company is required in fact, they're saying that they have a certain time to do it. Otherwise they will shut the gas off. So it is a. It is a need we know about it. The city knows about it. In fact, we have the necessary forms available at City Hall if citizen wanted to pick them up. But if you do have an indoor gas meter, please allow the gas company access to test it for safety reasons.

C

Thank you just in case from senior citizens.

A

They still have, unfortunately, I think. Can you give a phone number your.

D

A

D

Your mic off I'm, sorry.

A

uh Mr dip what I was saying for some senior citizens and and others you may still have somebody come up, and maybe it's not a real uh person from the gas company. Is there a number that they could contact at the city to ask just in case they're, not sure if a person is legit or not.

Y

The best the best number is the mayor's office and- and we have all the necessary paperwork- I printed it out, um but unfortunately I tried to obtain the list of the 880 or 78, uh but it was confidential. They won't share it with me, so they just asked us for assistance in telling our citizens. If you have an indoor gas meter- and you receive that letter, please um allow them access. Okay,.

D

So Council chair, that's I mean that's, that's a good point. My mom actually had an issue with another uh contractor that came through. She didn't know who it was. uh What we can do is we can talk to the regional manager of DTE to see if they can have obviously identifications like an ID or password, probably a vehicle that is marked as DTE so uh we'll, uh let's, let's uh I, guess we're regroup with DTE management and see what we can do. Can you at least maybe give out the phone number for the mayor's office.

A

D

313-791-3490 so 791-3490, and uh what we'll do is uh I know a lot of seniors. They don't have uh you know, computers. uh What we can do is we can post. You know something at the senior centers. You know once we get a hold of DTE management to see what protocol you know that they can put in place to safeguard our senior citizens, and we can actually put that out there just to make sure that they know what's going on, because it's a concern.

D

You know Winter's coming and the DTE already said that if they can't get into the homes they're going to shut their gas for safety reasons- and we definitely don't want that- you know especially winners. Just around the corner.

Y

Okay, thank you. I also have the number for DTE. If that's and.

F

Y

Is on the paperwork, but the number two DTE directly to verify is.

Y

877-853-9434, so it's 877-853-9434, it is on the paperwork too.

Y

We will talk to DTE and see if we can get a true verification before access is granted, but it is a critical issue, especially for older citizens and older homes, when they, um um you know when they have an indoor meter.

A

Thank you director. uh Next up is director Tim Emery go ahead, please bankrupt I'm. Sorry, uh director, Bob and crap I apologize.

AG

Good evening, folks, I just wanted to add a little bit to uh director McCaffrey's comments regarding the passing of Anthony residlo uh Anthony was a a steadfast and a long long term uh volunteer on our community Emergency Response Team, uh the cert team. uh Actually he was. uh He was in the very first class uh that I taught with that organization. Many years ago, uh I think he attended virtually every meeting and uh participated in every disaster. Exercise we coordinated so so again, Anthony was a. He was a great volunteer.

AG

He was a good friend and he will be missed. uh Dearly no question and my condolences to Kim his wife, but uh one thing I did want to pass along uh is that uh his funeral services will be this Thursday um uh 10 uh visitation will be at 10 o'clock at the it helped me with the pronounce pronunciation: Saint Kittery Catholic church, it's over on rotunda Drive.

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AG

So uh again, uh yeah: okay, thank you, um that'll be from 10 to 11, and then there will be a mass from 11 to 12.. Okay. So uh again, if anyone is available and interested, uh that's the time and location of his Services. Thank.

A

You thank you any other administrative announcements to memory. Are you making an announcement as an Administration, uh School Board? Obviously, Administration correct, no, no I'm! Sorry, okay! I'm! Sorry go ahead.

N

AD

Okay, thank you for the appointments, so the reappointments of the Tifa board and for the appointment of Rachel to the uh Tifa board, a new member. uh She will do a great job for us. Thank you. What's up, that's.

A

It that works. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to go ahead and uh we're gonna go to a public comments. Scene I, don't see! No other director. Is that correct or Administration so we'll go ahead and go to public comments. You will have three minutes. Please come on up State, your city, street and name. Please.

C

All right before you start listen if you're gonna, yell.

M

I have never yelled at you. I do not yell all.

C

Right ready, I.

M

Make it a point ready.

C

Three two main.

M

Street I don't need three minutes. Dearborn Heights I want to half. Thank you on behalf of the Eaton senior Recreation Department. Half. Thank you for what you've done. I can only give you half of things, because you only did half of what we wanted, but we're going to get there because we've already got promises. People look it into the rest of it. So thank you very much.

E

Thank you, Rose.

J

Yeah good evening, Hassan Saab John, Daly Dearborn Heights I got two things. One I want to bring up the contractor issue about the cement. I took that video um and there was a police call. There was somebody that did call the police out of the residence about them dumping and, as for residents, doing driveways or uh or uh sidewalks, not in that area was actually two blocks.

J

East I'm, actually building a house on Gully and the house you guys are talking about is nowhere near where they were fixing Street slabs um DPW has worn this same exact contract before not to dump into sewers again last time, I caught that guy doing the slabs, he got a pat on the back and nobody did nothing. You guys approved a contract extension for him.

J

Second thing is I have is for the police department with the directors you know, I'm always up to stand for what's right and to stand, no matter the sides or or who, or what or May.

J

There was five officers that were written up of an incident that happened months ago and I believe that the write-up that you guys did is there's targeting service certain officers and it's wrong. I filed it for you and I expect that for you and if I don't get that for you, I've challenged the police department before and I've challenged the old Chief before I have my own money and I'm not scared to do it again. What you guys did to those officers in leadership and regular offices and Patrol is wrong.

J

I want a video that I forgot and mayor and everybody in administration, I'm asking you do not delay the foia and the police department not to delay the for you, usually when I signed up for you, I get a request back that you guys have received it. I have not received no emails back from you and it's disappointing about.

J

What's going on with us uh with that specific incident, and if you'd like to comment on it, I'm going to go into in certain details on it, whatever you want, if you want to pause my minutes, let them come up, come on up pause.

I

E

Okay, one sec, one. Second, any ongoing. You can State what you want to State and then the foia request. We can check on the foil request for you, but I'm, not gonna. Have any analysis discuss anything. That's pending any disciplinary issues or non-disciplinary issues that are.

I

Confidential and I'm not going to violate.

J

I'm gonna give you a couple extra seconds and it's three minutes: I haven't been up for a minute I'm, counting on.

C

J

You put me 60 seconds.

C

J

I had it healthy, no you're holding the 60.

C

Seconds I'm, just getting you ready, you got a minute and 19 seconds. I actually give you extra four seconds, but it comes for sure. I want to make something clear. Hang on one second, okay, sure look! This is your meeting I understand and if, if you give the permission for a director to Skid up and say his part to get back to this gentleman, that is your decision hold.

I

H

I'm talking about the council meeting Roger.

C

With respect, if, if he wants him to speak, he could speak but Roger I know it's disrespectful Roger. To be honest,.

AD

I know, while I was speaking to you, I'm, not disrespecting you.

C

um Honestly, you are right.

AD

H

What I'm telling you this point of order and that you know you need to go through the council chair when it comes to speaking I, could talk to anyone.

E

I want to talk to no when you're interested.

A

Circumstances I'm.

A

What's your comments.

J

Officers officers have the right to defend themselves. Your policies that you're putting in place I bought actually I, bought a 48 pack of whistles for you and some white gloves to give to the officers and have them turn in their weapons. If that's how you're going to run the department as a world-class Department, it's a shame because you owed up certain officers that were just responding to assistance and and I would love for you guys to go retaliate against those offices.

J

Like I've said, like I've, said and I'll say it again, I'm not scared to spend my own money to challenge the department and the leadership in the department again and it's a shame- we're we're promoting officers to come in our city, we're not promoting officers to run away from our city and what happened with this incident. This has nothing to do with Arab American officers or white officers, any officers as the officers involved. It was five officers in particular. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about it's.

K

Not the full I'm.

J

K

Not performed but.

A

If this is the only way I'm going to.

J

Get my voice on it. I'm.

A

Going to make it yeah, you do ever so far from what you said, you do have a right say.

J

Go ahead and, like I said, I requested a foia request in detail about it, and I have not even received a response from the police department, which I usually do that. You guys even received this and I'm going to put this right here, and this is no threat, no promise to nobody. If I don't get. My foyer I got skeletons on every one of those directors in the department and I'm gonna start spelling them out from all departments.

I

E

Is a threat? Okay, be.

I

Clear: that's a threat. Okay,.

E

But you don't come in here.

E

I

Respond: okay, but.

E

We're not going to be threatened and held accountable.

J

To you or any threat, though, all right that is.

P

A

That's enough, thank you all right. Who else isn't next come on up.

F

O

Mrapkowski Columbia Street, uh congratulations, Mr, Abdullah! Thank you and thank you to all the people who ran um nice job um I want to ask the police department a question a while. Okay talk through the chair, please, yes, a while back a counselor approved body, cameras uh for the police, department and and uh I was wondering if there were any left so that the ordinance officers can have the body cameras also, or are you doing anything to make sure that our ordinance officers are protected? The.

A

Same way, okay, I mean I. I. Don't want this thing to be back and forth. To finish all of your questions that allow them to answer their questions if they choose to record okay.

O

And the other question I am I have is correct me if I'm wrong, but was there a um a contracted employee hired recently and.

A

Here's the last part you had a.

O

Contracted employee hired recently is the human resource director, so.

A

Again make all your requirements and questions that will ask the person to come up and answer if they so choose, because otherwise I don't want this thing to be back and forth for eight ten minutes. It's three minutes so, but.

O

I'm not arguing with you Dave, that's it my questions. Oh.

A

That's it! Okay, that's it is there anybody from the police department that would prefer to answer those okay.

C

What was the question to the police department.

O

C

L

Body cams body cameras.

O

Are there any available for the ordinance officers.

A

Wait, let me finish. First, one.

O

AC

Okay, the question was good morning. Excuse me good evening my bad uh body cameras available for ordinance, so the body cameras that were put into put into service for the police department paid for Federal grant for the police department. We are working with director deshroon about body cameras for ordinance.

AC

um It's a fantastic idea, there's additional funding that we're going to have to do. Do we have extra, no that's, not kind of how that works, but we are working towards getting them those things to put it on, because there's policies, there's procedures, there's when they go and interact with people the public you know just like when we do when we interact with the public, those that are victims or or Witnesses, we have to redact certain things.

AC

So there's a lot of things in play that need to be considered before you just slap a camera on a public official, so to speak, so that is being worked on with the director. um We we've made available all of our efforts, our work product to him, uh while he's developing that okay.

A

And the second question you're going to ask that.

AC

I'm not sure what the question was.

W

AC

W

C

Contracting, employee.

O

I asked if there has been a contract employee hired recently, where for the city Vince.

AC

I'm sorry so I'm out of this yeah okay. Is there any.

W

Specific time or Department, it.

O

Was a couple of months back uh and I thought I thought it was for engineering for.

W

Engineering in.

O

This city, yes, okay, correct.

A

Me if I'm wrong I mean okay, so anybody in the engineering there's no engineering department for engineering, specifically yeah, specifically engineering, okay,.

O

Mayor has there ever been anybody contract.

A

Employee is there any new contract employee in engineering hired by the city? Do it.

O

You need to look okay. I did because I thought there was. That happened a while back, and the only reason I asked about the body. Cameras is because I I feel the ordinance officers need the same protection Police Department, because they put up with a lot of crap out there. Okay, thank you. Thank.

A

You Vince next up City street name. Please.

AH

Rachel Lapointe Merrick Street, Dearborn Heights, um so first thank you guys um with the whole appointment process. I think you guys made a good choice. um I hope to see some good things happening.

C

Hang on one second one: second, oh.

AH

You forgot to start my clock, sucks man, this new Pro tem. He really needs some practice, not like Mr musket,.

F

Right there, you go, you ready three, two one thank.

AH

You um so thank you for all that um regarding the actuary report for the contract as a resident I am asking you guys to get that done. um However, that needs to happen. Residents need to know how much money we are spending with our money that we're entrusting to you.

AH

We need to know how much that's going to cost, because we need to know that so that we can hold you guys accountable, so that when it comes time for elections, if we disagree with the choices that you made and the holes you dug that we can change it up. That's how democracy works.

AH

We need to know the facts so that we can hold you accountable at elections. So I really request that you guys get that actuary report done whether you requested of the mayor do a vote next time. A resolution, however, get it done.

AH

um If the mayor knows what he's doing, he would have already gotten it done, but it is what it is. um Regarding the candidate Forum this week uh we will be streaming. It I spoke to councilwoman Breyer I'll, be able to stream it on dbh411 that stands for Dearborn Heights dbh. The 4-1-1 get it it's on Facebook and YouTube If. You need to find out how to get that. We can help you get it. So, if you're not able to attend in person, it will be streamed and recorded.

AH

um You kind of included me with a group of people who um I would say, support the police. I want to just clarify, because sometimes I think things can be hard when we have a limited time. I am against toxic workplaces. I am against people not being paid a living wage. Everyone every single one of our employees deserves a living wage generally speaking, I'm, not a fan of policing in America I, strongly believe in police reform.

AH

I strongly believe that there are things that we need to do to make policing work for America how that works. How that looks? That's a whole other topic, but I just want to be clear that I'm for a safe, welcoming workplace for every single one of our employees, please fire whatever that I just wanted to make that clear. I'm.

C

Going to stop that right there just to let you know my comment was you were always fighting to make sure that we have more officers, we're paying them well. I.

AH

Well, it's the more officers part.

C

That maybe I would disagree.

F

C

AH

Not more officers.

C

AH

The part the more officers I'm, not necessarily a fan of more officers.

AH

um Finally, I would encourage all of you, especially our corporate Council, to maybe do a refresher on the First Amendment when it comes to free speech, the public has the ability to comment on what we would like to comment on, and we can say that. However, we like within reason a certain amount of things like the not shouting fire in a theater. If the city feels that something is untrue or slanderous, they have the option to pursue litigation. An individual who feels that they were slandered against has the opportunity to pursue litigation.

AH

You do not have the permission to just shut down speech. Okay, thank you.

E

Thank you, I would just comment. I did my thesis on the First Amendment affirmative action with Archibald Cox and prosecuted Richard Nixon I did two years for him to graduate from Boston University law. School I have my refresher courses.

L

Okay, Council chair just I, wonder something that uh Mr Lapointe said about the actuary. uh The administration stated that they have a report I'd like to that report, given to the city council for our next meeting, and then we can go as far as seeing if we need an actuary done.

N

L

Mayor stated that he had a report that he could give us, he didn't see on the actuary the financials impact of the contract.

D

N

D

Did not I never said I had a report. I said if you guys need a record just request it and.

L

So I'm requesting.

A

An officially requested okay, so.

D

A

Make it clear there's not a specific report? That's done he's saying if you'd like a report, an actuary report done no, no, then put a request at city council meeting as a body and then they could go ahead.

L

And add: that's not what he said. He said we don't need an action word. If we want to report he'll give us a report.

C

If you want one.

A

Okay, okay, but hi.

G

Sue Kaminsky Amboy Street, Dearborn, Heights, um first off Dave to you, your family, um that tragic incident with your cousin. My heart goes out to all of you um there's you know no way, that's a good way to die, but that was a bad way and so my sympathies, thank you appreciate it. um Secondly, back in June I believe it might have been May. There was discussion about 24 properties, and this body asked the city to come back with the list and to my knowledge, you have not received it.

F

G

It 34., but you have not received that list. um Just a little reminder, I think it's important to get that list uh next thing Zoo here. Congratulations, I, think the city is better with you on this Council and I think it was a good choice. People.

W

Like you make me want to do these things.

G

Well, thank you. um Two weeks ago, I stood here and I was concerned about the kids and traffic and the school Crossings. um The mayor thought that I was giving wrong information. Unfortunately, I was correct and I didn't want to be correct and we ended up having our superintendent block. Kids at Riverside at least two days in a row than I know about I did contact director Swope on a Thursday evening.

G

Last week, at after 7 pm, he replied within 15 minutes and since on the police have been there every day so kudos to director Swope.

G

And then I'm really excited about the opportunity to get more police. It's what I have been preaching and you guys are so sick of hearing me. I just want our police force to be at full staff. I want them to not be tired from too much overtime, so I'm really excited about the opportunity to get back to a full police force and I hope that we utilize ax 78 that the citizens voted in in the hiring process for the new police and that's it. Thank.

A

You thank you sue uh before the next person comes up councilman earlier. You had something you want to say where you were all set not in regards to before soon okay go.

AB

Ahead, Muhammad Gianni, Evangeline, Dearborn Heights uh first I want to congratulate Zord off the hook and there's a point appointment tonight um very glad and the mic on.

H

AB

Right um on a different note um is uh Ali deep still on the thing. Yes, yes, he is okay, so director.

A

AB

I'd, like an update, it's been about a month or so kids are in school. What's the latest on the Crossing.

A

Okay, so finish with all your questions and comments: okay, so Mr D. Would you like to comment on that? Please sure.

A

He's looking for an update on the crossing at beach daily across from Crestwood, yes,.

Y

So the crossing is in the design phase. um I can't issue it to construction until the grant money is in place. If you recall it's a semcog process, so some money is allocated for 24, construction and I said that from the beginning, so we're using their money. So we can't fund it and go for money afterwards, we're waiting for that, but it is in the design phase and the construction is scheduled for April as early as April 24th.

AB

Okay, but, along with this, with his comments, we we had a I think a rah-rah moment saying that we could at least get people out there to put paint in the on the streets cross. You know paint some crosswalks have some police officers. There have Crossing people there, as you all know, driving down that street in the morning during during school time, it's as crazy. It's ever been so what happened to Gathering a bunch of people and going out there and painting the crosswalk ourselves so I'm, basically asking you guys City Council,.

A

Okay, so this is something that's obviously administration. At the end of the day. On our end, we just approve any type of budget. uh I would be all okay with that. Obviously, and this was something our Administration do we're going to be looking into so fortunately, the director is not here uh to be able to answer it.

AB

I think there was somebody offered the paint and oh okay, I thought somebody offered the paint, and it was just a matter of getting the bodies out there to go, paint it or whatever. It was about a month or a month and a half ago are.

C

You talking Mr Jenny. Thank you. Are you speaking about in front of Crestwood? Yes, specifically specifically, yes, so I can tell you this that I'm going to recognize that Mr Conrad, that all the schools have been painted, except for Crestwood, because the beach daily now I I I'm, not saying that that's okay, but I would like see some big I was just driving in Birmingham and I see a similar Street to beach daily and they have these big rectangles and when you're going through it, you see the rectangles on the road.

C

So maybe we should have that there where and you can maybe write schools on on the right side of school.

AB

Something to slow these people down, make them more aware, they're, all oblivious to to the signs or or people crossing I mean something's got to be done. I mean we're not going to get this done until April of 2024. we're talking that's months away. Anything can happen. So please, let's address this sooner than later. Thank.

AE

You, okay, thank you, Mr Jenny! Next, up.

A

Actually, before you start, Bilal Robert Conrad's got his hand up. Do you have a quick comment to make director on that I assume in some regards to Mr, Jenny god unmute yourself, please, director Conrad.

AI

Yes, uh we have painted all the crosswalks um throughout the city. um There may be some that need some refreshing. So if someone has some concerns, they can always call us at the DPW. Let us know where they have some concerns, we'll go out and take a look at them and see you know if they do need refreshing, um but every crosswalk has been done.

AI

uh There may be one quadrant where there was concrete work being done, that we're waiting for the concrete to cure a little bit, um but those are on our radar to be completed, as you know, as soon as possible. Okay.

A

Director he does have a concern in regards to beach daily crosswalk directly across from the school. So if you can look into the Crestwood School District Crestwood school high school crossing area until such point, they have a mechanical uh uh structure that structure I'm, sorry until they go through the most more formal process. If you could look into that, please, okay,.

AI

um There is so there is an existing crosswalk there, because we don't put crosswalks and if there isn't a traffic control device um you know. So there is no random crosswalks that can be put in. They have to be at you know: traffic controlled areas with either stop signs or traffic signals. So okay, um but I'll, look at beach daily in the Crestwood, School uh High School area and and see if there's anything that we missed. Okay. Thank you.

AJ

Glad sir well, everyone Bilal hamoud, Outer Drive. uh First of all, I want to say thank you very much for considering my candidacy for this position for the vacancy congratulations, uh councilman, Abdul, haq, I'm,.

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AJ

Course, um for this next piece, I was a little torn on whether or not I should proceed, but I think it has to be said after I put in my name for the vacancy and it's something that I want to do to fill a four-month term to help serve this community.

AJ

I immediately got calls and texts, uh berating me and insulting me and my family for applying for something that was I, think perceived to the these people as uh their seat and in my professional career I have never encountered such unprofessionalism.

AJ

It was incredibly disappointing and in the coming days my family received calls harassment, my family and countless lies, and threats were directed at me.

C

Did you make a police report.

AJ

C

AJ

Yeah, you should I'm not one to engage in the dramatic side of politics, but this Behavior across the line. Families should never be involved.

AJ

All individuals feeling entitled to positions and willing to tarnish the reputation of anyone who stands between them and that that they think is theirs is unacceptable.

C

Good for you, I.

AJ

Choose to live in this city, I love it I, have a deep respect for it. I don't plan on leaving it so I encourage everyone to remain positive and keep things clean moving forward. Thank you. Thank you.

W

I know you for a long time. You are a real gentleman in this community and I'm happy that you are living in our cities. Thank.

F

You thank you. You know.

AK

Margaret King Mayfair, Street um I, don't know if any of you guys are aware and last Friday around 308 pm party school once again, Thursday child hit writing his bike home from school. This area we got the crosswalks painted, but we need more. um Also two Taylor over this week had installed LED flashing, stopping lights. I did my homework um they're very expensive, 405, 405, 000, 768 dollars, I read that way wrong, but they're they're, pretty penny, but that's to cover all of um our school zones in Dearborn Heights.

AK

The estimated total for the bright side post reflectors for all three school districts are 9 5009 597.81. That is something I strongly feel that we need to look into it's becoming night time. Kids are staying after school plays, are going on. Please guys, let's look into something. As far as that um read another statistic.

AK

Sadly, there are more than a thousand fatal School transportation related crashes between 2011 and 2020, with an average of 113 fatalities per year. Studies have found that as many as 40 students are hit by a vehicle while walking each day resulting in more than 15 000 injuries. On an annual basis statistic 2.: each week in the U.S there are five teen pedestrian deaths walking to and from school I feel these statistics are bear repeating.

AK

Can we look into getting a grant or something for these bright side? Reflectors, please around our school zones. At the least, that's all I have to say thank you good.

C

Thing I got a quick question: real quick, I'm, sorry I saw I, saw your post by the way. I actually saw that you.

F

C

Us the number of Chinese.

A

Stay up there Margaret, because the director would like to comment on that. You said would like to come on in.

C

What was the total of the number that you said for the reflectors just in our school zone, for.

AK

All three school districts around the schools: if I, MapQuest everything, right and I counted all the stop signs and everything they're all up to date, it should be 9597.81. Okay,.

C

My next question you gave me like a four hundred thousand dollar number.

AK

That's for the LED flashing, stop sign 100.

C

AK

And am I saying that right, I think so I got the numbers I'll give it to you.

A

Okay, okay, the director would like comment.

AK

On your entertainment.

A

AC

Hello again um on the the young individual that got hit the other day very unfortunate, but I also want to set some context too, and and let's have a discussion, real quick first um young man did make a poor choice. Unfortunately, there was a crosswalk, uh some short distance away. There was a.

E

Crossing guard a director I'm just not going to go in if there's a civil lawsuit, nope I.

AC

I want details.

F

AC

Sir, there are certain things there in place, so let's just have a real quick conversation. It's going to take everybody to have safe, Crossings and Safe Streets slowing down, as you guys have all said, you know actually stopping at stop signs because they have a white Banner on them, doesn't mean they're optional. You stop at stop signs. You work with your young people to actually cross that crosswalks. There's not enough police to make this problem go away. There's not enough crossing guards.

AC

I can hire, but there's conversations you can have with children to say: hey, let's do the right thing across a crosswalks or if you're an adult, and you see a youngster who might not even be yours- hey don't do that, but it's got to take all of us to solve this thing. It's just. We can't police our way out of it, nor crossing guards.

AC

Out of this so again and and I agree with Roger I don't want to get into it because that's not what it's about, but what it's about is looking out for each other making sure our youngsters, who might not have the right frame of mind, hey son, you know uh ma'am, please don't do that, go over there. That's all it's going to take is all we watch out for each other I've seen that enough in this city.

AC

They do it I'm, happy to say I'm glad other parents look out for their other children, but that's what we have to keep doing. That's all I want to add to that I I'm, I'm, very happy to say I like that the parents look out for the each children. Please keep doing it. Thank you. Thank.

A

AE

Director next up.

AE

I just wanted I'm gonna keep this brief. I wanted to begin by thanking the council for considering me um for the vacancy of Ray Muscat seat. I'm really I was really happy with the candidate pool that we had. We had a lot of wonderful Talent, a lot of dedicated folks and a lot of experience as well um and I'm happy with the decision that the council took I, know. Mr Huck has a lot of experience and will be an asset to the board, um and you know it's uh I will continue serving this community.

AE

I know that we have an election coming up on November 7th, so we'll be hitting the doors hard and continuing to talk to our residents.

A

As well, the only thing is you can't campaign. Oh.

AE

Yeah, that's right just avoid it. No worries, no worries, uh admit that part out, but yes, I wanted to thank you all and I'm Gonna Keep. You brief as well, but I hope you all have a wonderful night. Thank you. So much. Okay.

M

Thank you thank.

L

A

And thank you for running. As to all of you,.

Q

God Ned a pig in Rosetta, Street, I'd like to say something about the discussion on pensions. First of all, Municipal import employ employees of the city are very fortunate. Very few people get pensions, I told my wife that passed the test 40 years ago too bad you didn't take that job you'd be getting about two thousand dollars a month. Fortunately, my wife worked 40 years for a law firm guess what her pension is. How about zero guess? What my pension is. Zero pensions are are luxuries beyond belief.

Q

The police and fire have it better than most I'm, not a actuarian, but the first thing I would have done is find out what police are paid in Trenton, e-course, Wine, Dot, Melvin, Dale, Allen, Park, Lincoln, Park and I wouldn't take I, don't have to be an actuarian. Maybe forty thousand dollars is the right price. To start. We never I, didn't hear anything about how you're going to increase that five percent a year ten percent a year, so within five years, they're well beyond 50. I, don't know what the number is.

Q

I can't be compared with Dearborn. This is a bedroom community with limited commercial, no Industrial, you don't know what you can afford: I'm, not against the police. I'm, not I, wouldn't be a policeman at eighty thousand dollars a year and I couldn't be a fireman.

Q

So you find out what the facts are find out. What that number is don't compare it with Dearborn I read the local newspaper page, the page. You know what I See Fire Chiefs in cities that uh Yoda wouldn't want to work in after they get their pension. They get another job in Plymouth Township. We could be hiring veteran policemen, because this place is not the jungle they're, paying bigger and places that are dangerous, and then they retire after 20 years 25 years and they get jobs in minor communities. Plymouth Township God knows what farming Community.

Q

Those are advantages. You have think about it like that I. If I had done a smart thing and decided to take a job at 18 and wait 20 years they're, all getting us. I got cousins, that retired from the military that got political jobs working for the Post Office. Think about that do not include uniforms. Overtime pay, vacation, pay and let them put it on there, pensions, that's a big problem that we had when I was on the council. Thank you that.

A

Any other members in the audience.

Q

I'm sorry I've.

A

Q

To say: congratulations, Zoo, hair and good luck in the election. Thank.

W

You thank you. Thank you all.

A

Right motion: oh.

F

C

Sorry I'm sorry, somebody on.

A

Zoom um uh Nicole uh Buckman. Please go ahead. I'm! You please.

P

Can you hear me? Yes, we can all right I, just just about 7B for the new uh Payroll Company. Do we know when that's going to go into effect and then the comment based on that question would be. I was working in the Comptroller's office when we had gone from ADP to Paylocity and what had happened is it was towards the end of the year and it was double reported. So we got two W-2s. So when people were going to file their income taxes, it was showing just say hypothetically.

P

Instead of making forty thousand, you made eighty thousand, which obviously was not correct because it was double reported and it was a hassle to get that corrected. So just something for Camp troller King to keep in mind if the switch is going to happen before the end of this year, make sure that it's not double reported by Paylocity and Paycom.

A

uh I'm not sure if it's Mariana or maybe the mayor or somebody could just relay that message just in case to the controller. Okay, anybody else with a public comment hearing or seeing none on Zoom motion to adjourn motion adjourn.

C

Back supported.

A

By councilman constant, thank you very much and all a good night.