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A
A
It's
on
page
15,
I'm.
Sorry,
thank
you
for
clarification.
Yes,
okay!
Well,
the
general
budget
is
our
salaries.
Are
a
total
of
seventy
six
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty-nine
dollars,
the
fringe
benefits
which
doesn't
look
like
anybody.
We
really
used
last
year,
there's
an
allowance
of
five
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
two
dollars.
B
C
Explain
real
quick!
The
travel
education
is
not
included
as
a
budget
item.
Our
number
I
should
say
we
have
traditionally
since
I
believe
2012
or
2015
have
requested
monies
to
be
in
education
as
City
Council
members,
their
professional
development
and
information
is
very
important
to
them.
You
know
going
to
Michigan
Municipal
League
things
like
that.
Many
of
you
have
gone
to
the
newly
elected
and
found
it
quite
beneficial
and
of
course,
things
are
always
changing.
C
A
I
think
I
agree
with.
You
is
just
keeping
it
at
the
3500,
as
it's
always
been.
Normally,
when
you
do
a
budget,
it's
giving
out
it's
given
out
to
the
different
directors.
No
one
gave
me
the
City
Council
budget
to
do.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
able
to
actually
speak
on
it.
So,
yes,
I
do
agree
with
putting
$3500
as
we've
always
done,
and
we
don't
usually
use
it.
I
mean
this
year.
We've
only
used
297
of
that
for
the
all
six.
D
C
E
G
A
G
H
F
H
F
I
I
G
B
B
F
F
A
B
A
A
C
A
D
G
Know
it's
it's
a
give
you
the
history
of
it
and
in
fact
a
couple
individuals
asked
me
and
we
did
some
further
research.
We
talked
to
in
fact
karmanov
Ariel
and
he
was
the
one
originally
when
when
CDBG
was
first
formed,
that
was
during
the
Nixon
when
he
was
president
and
mayor
can't
filled
and
that's
not
Ruth,
but
Jarnell.
G
Can't
field
created
that
particular
grant
coordinator
position
and
carmine
was
afraid
that
if
the
grant
program
disappeared
because
they
did
not
know
how
long
CDBG
President
Nixon
took
a
whole
bunch
of
programs
and
put
them
all
together
and
created
a
CDBG
and
a
housing,
and
so
what
they
did
was
they
put
it
in
here
so
that
if,
in
fact
the
CDBG
program
was
not
to
be
funded,
anymore,
there'd
be
a
spot
for
it.
So
that's
why
it's
in
here
I
mean
he's
gonna.
G
He
actually
gets
paid
and
funded
out
of
CDBG
right,
so
shouldn't
be
out
of
this.
Well,
here's
the
other
thing
in
the
revenues.
There's
the
80
there's
a
number
to
match
his
pay
and
its
fringes.
So
it
would
just
be
a
wash
so
you
could,
you
can
take
it
out,
but
he'll
still
be
in
CDBG
or
you
can
leave
it
in,
but
that's
why
it
was
in
there.
So
for
consistency,
I've
kept
the
same
thing
going,
but
that's
well
how
it
evolved.
Carmon
confirmed
that
I
was
here
at
that
time.
G
That
was
my
understanding,
but
we
wanted
to
check
with
mr.
Olivera
and
he
said
yeah
that
John
because
he
said
I,
he
took
the
job,
but
he
said:
I
don't
wanna
in
a
year
end
up
getting
bumped
and
fired
so
John
can
fell.
So
I'll
put
you
in
the
in
my
budget
and
carmen
was
able
to
retire
here.
So
the
programs
continue.
It's
it's
your
it's!
It's
purely
up
to
the
console.
G
E
E
G
F
J
A
J
It's
within
a
budget
there,
they
didn't
give
you
no
sheets,
everything
is
up
there
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
comptroller
gave
ya,
but
we
could
go
over
each
account.
You
know
some
are
up
a
little
bit,
others
are
down,
but
the
budget
is
basically
close
to
last
year.
If
there
is
any
question
on
those
amounts,
they
could
answer.
H
So
I
had
a
question
for
you
on
the
part
time
you
had
it
on
the
2018-19
amended
budget
was
fifty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
a
total
activity
on
that
one
was
fifteen
thousand
zero.
Eight
zero
requested
budget
zero
this
time,
but
then
you
go
to
the
next
down
the
next
time.
It's
part
time
again,
and
it
was
none
nothing
in
the
amended
budget,
but
then
thirty
five
thousand
activity
within
the
requested,
sixty
five
thousand
so
that
I
don't
know.
This
is
a
controller
question.
I
J
H
J
H
Okay
and
then
the
next
one
was
a
lot
of
tough
ones.
I
was
not
a
big
deal.
I
just
dropped
a
little
bit
and
repair
maintenance.
You
went
up
a
little
bit,
but
then
the
capital
outlay
we
have
450,000
I
know.
You
said
you
combine
two,
but
there's
capital
outlay,
450,000
previous
year
amended
budget
zero.
Can
you
give
us
a
little
more
information
on
that
right?.
J
You
to
get
maybe
a
contractor
to
come
in
and
look
at
doing
the
studio,
so
this
year,
I
left
that
in
there
plus
I
put
or
two
estimates
to
get
the
studio
done.
J
J
F
F
I
Okay,
so
for
the
PEG
money
first
thing
is:
is
the
balance
would
be
on
our
balance
sheet?
So
you
don't
see
that,
but
I
did
do
a
little
accounting
of
an
estimate
of
what
I
think
it's
gonna
be
by
the
end
of
this
year.
So
it
started
with
the
number
in
the
audit,
which
was
eight
hundred
and
ninety
thousand,
adding
the
money
that
came
in
subtracting
the
cable
budget
and
got
an
estimate
and
then
next
year's
estimate
as
well.
I
And
if
you
look
on
the
revenue
side,
you
will
see
that
the
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
for
the
repair
of
the
facility
is
being
appropriated
from
fund
balance,
and
you
can
also
see
where
I
separated
the
peg
amount
from
the
regular
franchise
amounts
on
the
revenue
side.
So
you
can
see
that
more
clearly
from
the
future
I.
F
I
I
F
L
So
Lindo
myself
met
with
PSN
a
on
because
the
department
heads
here
the
same
issue
that
is
downloaded
from
BSN
a
it
new,
a
spreadsheet,
then
there's
a
different
spreadsheet
for
the
actual
salaries.
Then
there's
another
spreadsheet
for
something
else
so
which
you
would
be
get
it
wouldn't
be
a
workable
document.
It'd
be
all
these
different,
separate
sheets.
So
what
we
we
have
worked
with
vs
na
and
they
were
supposed
to
do
it
in
the
next
couple
months
was
an
item
that
we
could.
You
could
actually
look
at.
B
J
I
I
increased,
you
know,
I'm
put
down
for
a
dollar
now
a
raise
for
all
of
them
and
that
come
out
to
a
fourteen
hundred
dollar
increase
and
my
sheep.
Maybe
fourteen
hundred
dollars
each
but
no
I
dollar
an
hour.
The
dollar
an
hour
for,
however
many
hours,
and
they
come
out
to
forty
four
hundred
for
the
three
of
them
over
the
course
of
the
year.
So.
D
G
A
G
B
G
I
I
B
L
G
A
H
Chief
I'd
like
to
get
a
little
bit
more
of
a
clarification.
If
you
don't
mind
so
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
I
know
you
said,
you're
gonna
send
us
the
estimates
and
of
course
that
would
be
helpful.
But
just
to
give
me
a
vision,
I
know:
you're,
not
gonna,
have
all
the
numbers
right
now.
So
I
respect
that,
but
just
to
give
me
a
vision
of
what
is
planned
for
that
particular
studio,
because
obviously
it's
been
a
very
controversial
situation.
H
Lately
say
the
least
so
I'd
like
to
see
what
your
vision
is
for
that
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand,
especially
considering
that
the
ending
balance
is
gonna,
be
five
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
fifty
eight,
so
you
got
another
over
a
half
million
left,
but
for
their
four
hundred
and
fifty
that
you're
asking
for
on
the
budget.
What's
your
plan
in
general?
Are
we
talking
about
cosmetic
changes?
Are
we
talking
about?
You
know
four
beautiness.
You
know
when
they're
taking
a
video.
Are
we
talking
about
cameras?
What
specifically,
okay,
that.
J
J
H
N
Okay,
well,
the
two
things
is
that,
as
the
Gavin
had
told
you,
one
was
for
upgrades
here
inside
the
council
chambers.
Obviously
the
audio
we
were
talking
about
having
cameras
mounted
so
that
we
could
get
better
angles
instead
of
having
to
constantly
switch.
They
was
talking
about
putting
in
a
small
control
room
in
where
the
audio
room
is
things
like
that
for
the
council
chambers
now
in
the
studio,
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
maintenance
were
is
really
needed.
A
lot
of
the
equipment
is
poor
and
chat.
N
We're
talking
about
equipment
used
in
the
80s,
so
we
have
one
camera
as
we
refer
to
in
the
Frankenstein
camera,
because
we're
constantly
trying
to
find
parts
on
ebay
from
all
their
cameras
and
having
them
put
together
so
that
we
can
get
something
working.
There
is
an
electrical
problem.
Some
kind
of
we
can't
keep
the
lights
on
too
long
without
it
smelling
Denise
and
mr.
H
J
There's
some
discussion
of
maybe
building
a
whole
new
studio.
No,
that's
not
part
of
that
price.
This
is
just
basically
the
cameras
in
the
lighting
and
the
equipment
like
that.
So
that
bid
come
out
to
three
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
we've
been
buying
some
parts
or
cameras.
We
can't
buy
them
so
I
have
them
look
on.
Ebay
will
buy
something
in
the
one
camera
we
just
got
recently
it's
on
its
last
leg.
J
It
puts
a
line
across
the
camera,
so
you
know
they're
the
ones
that
work
with
it
every
day
we
are
the
ones
as
residents
that
watch,
cable
and
I
think
we
all
admit
the
sound,
and
sometimes
the
picture
isn't
clear.
So
it'd
be
nice
to
get
some
new
equipment,
I'm,
not
an
expertise,
but
those
guys
deal
with
that
stuff
a
little
bit
more,
so
they
would
know.
Okay,
thank.
J
The
equipment
that
we
get
if
we
make
any
other
modern
modernization
to
the
studio,
let's
say
the
building
if
we
extended
and
made
the
studio
loud
larger,
that
seehim
was
considering.
None
of
those
prices
are
in
here
for
that,
but
our
new
equipment
staying
if
I'm
wrong
will
blend
in
with
whatever
we
do
in
the
future.
N
B
Consequent
musket,
you
know
all
that
is
good
and
dandy,
but
we
had
$890,000
there
and
I'd
made
a
statement
once
that
I
don't
care.
If
we
spent
the
whole
eight
ninety
it's
there,
we
can't
use
it
for
anything,
but
there
I
mean
we
should
be
able
to
try
to
spend
what
we
can
spend
patch
up.
What
we
have
now
just
to
keep
us
going
and,
in
the
meantime,
go
all
out
build
a
nice
studio.
B
B
B
O
If
we
buy
some
new
equipment
new
cameras,
they
has
to
be
compatible
with
everything.
That's
gonna
be
bought
new
in
the
future.
Now,
if
we
bought
a
new
camera
right
now
say
we
paid
fifty
Nilofer
camera,
would
we
need
other
equipment
to
to
support
that
camera
and
everything
we
buy?
It
has
to
be
compatible
with
what
we're
gonna
do
in
the
future.
We
can't
buy
all
new
stuff
and
then
have
a
mainframe.
That's
made
out
of
wood.
You
know.
O
D
J
C
O
C
With
the
cable
and
actually
I
agree
with
Councilman
Muscat
that
the
money
is
there,
it's
restricted
the
studio,
improvement
and
upgrade
is
overdue.
We
hear
all
the
time
for
residents.
They
are
not
happy
with
the
quality
they
can't
hear
they.
You
know
all
these
other
things.
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
for
us.
We
were
as
a
city
with
the
future.
C
We
need
to
be
investing
right
when,
with
that
investment,
what
I'm
asking
you
now
is,
how
will
you
or
are
you
planning
to
partner
with
our
local
high
schools
and
colleges,
to
have
internship
programs
through
this
I
can't
wait
to
see
this
beautiful
facility
for
those
who
are
interested
in
broadcasting,
so
we're
investing
in
our
youth?
We.
J
C
After
you
get
this
state
of
the
art
center
right
and
that's
exactly
why
I
said
when
you
have
because
again
don't
put
the
cart
before
the
horse,
we
need
to
get
the
studio,
that's
a
priority,
because
again
the
residents
are
the
ones
saying
hey
we
don't
we
can't
hear
it.
We
have
you
ever
turned
it
up
all
the
way
and
then
you,
you
know
and
accidentally
turn
the
TV
on
the
like.
You
know
like
that,
if
you
had
that
happen,
I've
had
that
happen.
Others
have
had
that
happen.
C
So
again,
the
priority
is
the
money's
there.
We
I
think
we
hopefully
can
concur.
You
know
to
get
it
done
and
then
might
again
think
visioning
out
ahead
of
time
proactive
to
bring
in
our
youth
because
we
need
to
invest
in
our
youth
and
an
internship
program
in
broadcasting
through
municipal
government
is
a
wonderful
way
to
facilitate
that.
That's
what
I'm
asking
for
your
consideration?
No.
J
We
will
work
on
that
once
we
get
the
new
equipment.
If,
if,
as
a
council
you
release
X
amount
of
money,
I
will
work
with
our
employees
and
we
will
develop
and
come
with
a
studio
based
on
whatever
much
hover,
much
money.
You
would
give
us
if
you
increase
it
to
five
or
six
hundred
thousand.
You
know
what,
then,
naturally
the
council
has
to
prove
the
purchases.
We
would
come
up
with
a
different
game
plan
as
to
what
we
could
do
with
that
much
money.
We
could
report
back
to
you.
We
could
have
a
study.
J
You
know,
like
a
study,
find
it
in
and
see
what
we
can
develop
for
six
hundred
thousand
or
five
hundred
thousand.
Some
people
want
to
hold
new
studio
and
knock
some
walls
out.
You
know:
do
we
need
that?
That's
if
we're
gonna
reach
out
with
our
youth
and
other
people,
so
there's
a
lot
that
we
could
do
depending
on
the
amount
of
money.
Thank
you,
I.
N
Just
under
clarified
the
things
of
the
current
problems
with
like
audio
issues
and
things
like
that.
Obviously
it's
it's
it's
hitting
this
obviously
like
here
within
the
studio.
We
got
what
twelve
open
mics
here
in
this,
and
so
everything
is
going
to
be
heard,
and
sometimes
it's
gonna
be
bad
other
times
it
could
be
things
like
Comcast
or
Wow
or
AT&T
themselves,
because
they
have
sometimes
you
know
when
they
when
they
get
the
the
image
it
might
be
too
bright,
or
they
might
some
reason
tweak
it
for
some
reason
we
call
them.
N
They
have
to
make
the
change
to
it.
Okay,
but
this
is
issues
that
we've
been
having
for
the
whole
time.
I've
been
here,
which
is
11
years.
So
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we
constantly
are
trying
to
work
on
when
we
do
our
shows,
we
set
them
at
a
certain
level,
and
it
goes
out
at
that
certain
level.
So
well.
D
B
Know
while
we're
on
the
subject
I,
don't
mind,
please
thank
you.
Paul.
Have
we
ever
thought
about
put
together
doing
something
ends
we're
with
instead
of
screens
a
TV
like
modern
facilities?
Have
they
have
the
big-screen
TV
monitors,
yeah
I
know,
we've
got
just
a
screen
and
one
time
we
had
just
the
overhead
I
mean.
B
B
C
Q
B
A
J
B
A
R
R
So
it's
kind
of
a
contract
renewal.
That's
coming
up
and
with
that
the
reasons
that
we're
looking
at
the
increases,
we
have
roughly
five
to
six
employees
to
staff
the
office
that
we
pay
for
out
of
that
budget
and
they've
not
had
a
change
in
salary
in
the
last
few
years,
and
so
basically
we
have
to
look
at
a
raise
to
them
to
keep
the
experienced
staff
on
board
and
also
there's
education,
that
we
have
changes
that
the
state
tax
commission
is
constantly
giving
us.
R
R
Now
they
use
their
own
vehicles
paid
for
their
own
gas,
oil,
insurance,
wear
and
tear
maintenance
where
in
the
past,
when
they
were
part-time
employees
with
the
city,
they
were
able
to
use
the
city
vehicles,
and
so
now
that's
been
giving
up
so
they're
on
their
own
with
paying
their
own
expenses.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
for
part
of
their
salary
increase
as
well,
and
you
know
in
the
field.
Work
as
well.
There's
been
a
lot
of
increase
of
activity
and
workload.
So
we
look
at
you
know
a
lot
of
new
construction.
R
You
know
there's
many
properties
that
where
permits
were
issued-
and
you
know
we
have
to
determine
new
valuations
affecting
the
assessment
taxable
values-
we've
had
a
lot
of
increased
activity
as
well
by
the
state,
the
workload
that
they're
given
us
a
regarding
personal
property
statement,
processing
as
well
as
property
transfer,
affidavits,
principal
resident
exemption,
affidavits
veterans,
exemptions,
poverty,
hardship
requests
and
in
property
transfer.
Affidavits
are
very
important
for
us
to
review
because
that's
where
there's
been
a
change
of
ownership
and
it
does
affect
the
taxable
values
of
properties
for
the
uncapping.
G
R
H
I
mean
in
my
business
eyes
to
always
get
complaints
on
a
regular
basis
about
the
assessor's
office,
honestly
on
a
regular
regular
basis
and
since
Tony's
taken
over
and
it's
almost
non-existent.
Actually
I
get
compliments
now
that
they're,
like
and
assessor's
office,
and
usually,
as
you
know,
when
people
sell
a
home
and
they
go
close
the
deal
they
come
deal
with
the
guest
turn
and
the
neighbor
work.
So
they
got
they
got
they
imagine.
They
got
smiling
people
at
the
desk
whenever
they've
had
to
deal
with
you
guys
at
a
regular
basis.
H
I've
had
nothing
but
compliments,
but
also
got
a
compliment.
You're
on
something
I
know,
there's
been
some
controversy
in
some
in
a
specific
surrounding
community
in
regards
to
assessments.
I,
don't
know
if
you've
seen
it
over
assessments
on
properties
and
they've
done
a
very,
very
good
job
with
their
overall,
wherever
people
have
been
happy
and
when
people
have
have
had
issues
they've
had
after
to
be
able
to
speak
with
you
and
you.
R
A
R
Mean
I
have
other
reasons
if
you
want
to
hear
them,
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to.
You,
know,
go
on
and
on
and
on,
but
I
think
just
in
summary,
I
think
it's
just.
These
are
just
a
few
reasons.
You
know
the
aim,
our
program
that
the
state
has
put
on
us.
It's
called
the
audit
of
minimum
assessment
requirements.
R
We
have
had
one
audit
and
we
did
pass
that
so
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
state
tax
commission
and
that's
that's
a
lot
of
work
to
keep
that
compliance
up
and
I
think
we're
due
for
another
review
in
2020.
So
hopefully
we
need
to
maintain
what
we've
been
doing.
So
we
can
get
through
that
audit
as
well-
and
you
know
Plus
as
a
contractor.
I
have
to
carry
a
workers,
comp
and
liability
insurance
and
some
of
those
have
increased
as
well.
So
that's
an
extra
expense
and
cost
that
we
have
to
you
know.
R
Take
on
and
plus
accounting
and
tax
burdens
have
increased.
So
it's
it's
a
little
different
being
a
contractor
because
you're
you're
kind
of
you
know
making
sure
that
everything
is
covered
and
that
you
know
everybody's
getting
paid
so,
but
those
are
just
a
few
other
reasons,
and
you
know
hopefully
that
to
maintain
the
expert
level
of
service
that
you
know
the
taxpayers
expect
you
know.
Hopefully
the
Honorable
consul
sees
that
as
well
and
basically
approves
the
new
budget.
C
Hicks
Clayton
I
think
you're,
Council,
Chair
and
again
I
want
to
start
off
by
saying
not
questioning
your
service,
our
community,
by
the
way
cuz
I,
have
heard
good
things
and
do
appreciate
the
service
you're
doing
so.
I'll
start
with
that,
however,
I
will
add
for
the
sake
of
transparency
and
what
the
council
body
has
requested
more
than
once
is
in
what
is
fair.
When
we
talk
about
contracts
in
the
bid
process,
I'm
just
asking
a
question,
nothing
else.
Anybody
can
elaborate
on
there
give
me
some
something
yeah.
G
One
of
the
difficulties
we
had
when
we
had
a
an
Assessor
and
she
went
to
Pittsville
Township
and
then
what
happened
is
we
were
gonna
promote
the
guy
inside.
In
fact,
we
set
him
talling
schooling
and
everything
and
then
just
when
he
got
certified,
she
left
for
Taylor.
So
we
did
all
the
costs
of
training.
At
that
point
in
time
we
found
there's
not
a
lot
of
people
who
do
this
in
particularly
at
the
level.
So
we
had
interviewed
a
company
that
used
to
do
I
think
it
was
Westland
and
and
there's
one
other.
G
G
R
He's
basically
I
mean
he
doesn't
really
do
contract
work,
he's
he's
helping
out
eCourse
right
now,
I
think
as
a
contractor.
So
that's
all
he's
really
done.
G
B
Months,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
stabilizing
a
situation
here
in
our
city
over
to
pet
I,
mean
since
I've
been
coming
to
council
meetings
that
we've
always
had
difficulties
with
the
assessing
department,
either
being
complaints
or
not
being
able
to
have
an
Assessor
and
I
hear
nothing
but
good
things
about
you
and
that's
just
a
statement
that
I
want
to
make
and
I
truly
believe
in.
You
I
appreciate.
R
Were
you
basically
do
stipulate
to
a
value,
because
there's
some
room
to
do
that
and
it's
actually
a
better
for
the
city,
because
once
you
get
attorney
fees
and
you
get
all
the
other
costs
involved,
it's
just
it's
it's
not
worth
it
and
we
have
small
claims
and
usually
the
small
claims
we
go
to.
We
go
to
hearings
on.
In
fact,
we
had
two
cases
that
were
scheduled
back
when
we
had
bad
weather.
R
So
we
had
somebody
go
down
for
those
two
cases
and
then
found
out
that
the
tribunal
was
closed
because
of
the
bad
weather,
so
they
rescheduled
those
two
hearings
in
fact
they're
coming
up
on
May
17th,
so
we're
going
down
to
the
tribunal
on
May
17th
for
those
two
rescheduled
hearings.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
them,
we
go
to
and
it
just
you
know
we
just
take
each
one
on
its
own
merit
and
see
you
know.
What's
the
best
deal
for
the
city
really.
R
So
it
was
a
pretty
intense
process
for
the
2019
assessments,
so
sometimes
when
they
get
all
recalculated
like
that,
you
know:
there's
a
little
margin
of
error
there
that
we
say:
oh
well,
there's
a
little
wiggle
room
here
too,
to
take
care
of
it,
and
we
try
to
do
that.
That's
why
we
have
the
board
of
review
and
I
think
our
board
review
appeals
were
down
this
year
as
well.
So
this
is,
you
know,
I.
Can
it's
hard
to
answer
because
it's
and
we
just
take
it
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
all.
C
Hicks
claim
and
chair
mr.
Foucault
respectfully,
would
you
be
able
to
provide
an
update,
I
have
a
question.
Speaking
of
tax
tribunal
back
in
June,
2018
I
had
made
a
request
regarding
act
345
and
some
accounting,
which
is
separate
from
you,
of
course,
but
on
the
bottom
of
that
letter
that
I
have
it
talked
about
the
home
depot
and
that
appearing
before
tax
driven.
C
If
we
all
recall
that
letters
that
was
presented
at
this
council
meeting
a
council
meeting
in
in
2018
and
it
talked
about
I-
think
it
was
270,000,
maybe
that
was
being
put
aside
in
anticipation
of
possibly
losing
at
the
tax
tribunal
level
to
Home
Depot
the
appeal
that
they
filed.
Can
you
give
us
an
update?
What
happened
with
that?
And
you
know,
because
again
that
was
under
act
345,
that
was
on
the
city
letter
and
clearly
stated
for
home
depot
tax
tribunal
under
again
act.
345
well,.
R
We
did
end
up
doing
a
stipulation
to
change
the
value
of
that.
We
did
have
an
appraisal
on
it
and,
of
course,
the
opposing
party
had
an
appraisal
and
we
were
always
apart
now
again.
This
is
the
big
box.
Appeals
and
I
could
sit
here
for
the
next
couple
hours
and
talk
about
big
box
appeals
how
against
the
cities,
those
appeals
are.
They
have
been
ruling
on
those
making
huge
reductions
too,
and
so
a
lot
of
cities
were
fighting.
It
spending
a
lot
of
money
and
still
losing.
R
R
G
O
R
It
well
depends
on
if
the
what
attorneys
are
involved.
Typically,
we
try
to
do
a
lot
in-house
to
say
that
so
it's
on
our
basically
our
dime
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
these
appeals
and
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
you
know
it's
all
part
of
the
package.
It's
not
any
surprises
we're
a
another
company
that
does
contract
work
will
charge
for
additional
appeals
charge
for
the
legal
fees,
so
there's
additional
fees
that
they
charge
in
their
contractor
cost
that
basically
with
us
it's
just
all
in
the
package
is.
G
What
it
does
it
comes
through
secrets,
Wartell
and
secrets.
Wardle
has
the
staffing
and
the
expertise
to
handle
those
so
Gary
Mackey
dozen
or
any
of
the
other
attorneys
and
there's
and
how
we
learned
about
secrets
Ward.
All
those
years
ago
we
had
a
major
conflict
with
the
incinerator
and
that's
when
I
always
forget
his
name.
It's
a
German
name
starts
with
a
D.
G
So
if,
if
we
really
end
up
with
a
major
case,
he's
like
the
the
best
of
the
best,
in
my
opinion,
what
others
have
told
me,
but
we
just
don't,
have
a
large
number
of
them,
but
when
we've
gotten
into
a
real
battle,
because
we
were,
we
were
talking
about
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
with
the
incinerator
when
it
privatized
and
we
get
all
of
a
sudden.
Our
sister
put
it
at
price
here,
and
it
was.
G
It
was
a
subsidiary
or
Baltimore
Gas
and
Electric,
and
they
came
in
at
such
a
ridiculously
low
figure,
and
so
that
was
going
on
and
then
they
went
bankrupt.
So
we
had
I,
don't
know
if
we
ever
really
collected
on
those
taxes,
they
just
kind
of
folded
and
left.
But
so
we
found
a
combination
and
and
it's
it's
been
greatly
reduced
and
there
have
not
been
a
lot
of
cases
and
the
big
ones.
If
there's
they
just
haven't
been
existing.
But
it
comes
through
into
secrets,
were
double
you.
D
A
Yeah,
this
time,
I
think
we're
done
with
the
actual
budget.
What
I'm
gonna
ask
at
this
time,
which
is
Lee
Gavin,
has
something
in
regards
to
the
flooding
I'm
gonna
ask
him
to
come
back
up
and
we'll
take
care
of
that
now.
Cuz,
that's
important
I
mean
we
had
discussed
that
earlier
this
morning
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern.
Citizens
that
need
answers.
J
So
I
was
just
gonna,
go
over
real,
quick,
some
stuff,
we've
done
and
then
there's
a
meeting
coming
up
tomorrow.
At
the
end,
I'll
explain
that
meeting
that
we're
hosting
with
Wayne
Tony,
but
we've
seen
our
neighbors
lung
eCourse
Creek
flood
many
times
over
the
years.
While
we
were
waiting.
While
we
are
waiting
for
the
regional
solution,
we
didn't
want
our
residents
from
to
wait
for
the
county's
theater
fema
this
time.
So
we
decide
two
things:
they'll
different
as
rains
continued.
You
know
it
rained
heavy
into
the
night
there
and
May
first
realized
many
homeowners.
J
We're
gonna
suffer
flooding
again
as
they
have
in
the
past.
So
by
8
o'clock
Wednesday
morning
we
are
already
fielding
many
phone
calls
and
set
it
telling
the
people
the
wait
and
see
what
we're
gonna
do.
Next
we
took
the
names
down
and
we
reached
out
to
people
that
had
special
and
extra
needs,
we're
ready.
They're
from
so
we
made
several
calls.
We
set
up
some
resources
with
volunteers
contractors.
Charitable
groups
got
some
gift
cards,
we
couldn't
help
everyone,
but
we
helped
the
people
in
the
beginning.
J
The
people
that
had
no
support
system,
the
ones
that
we
determined
need
most
help
early
on
so
to
this
date
just
going
over
some.
What
have
we
done?
We've
put
three
families
in
hotel
rooms:
we've
helped
five.
Other
people
get
additional
housing.
Five
other
families,
we've
helped
to
replace
three
washers
and
dryers
we've
distributed
so
far.
32
gift
cards
from
Meijer
Walmart
Saturn.
J
These
suppliers
were
gracious
to
donate
them
to
them
and
we
passed
them
on
to
the
people
in
need.
So
we
had
19
furnaces.
We
were
able
to
go
out
and
check
with
a
local
contractor.
He
was
able
to
fix
five
furnaces
and
five
hot
water
tanks
distributed
seven
space
heaters
and
I'm
working
with
art
van.
We
have
a
list
of
63
people
that
are
in
need
of
mattresses,
so
I'm
working
with
channel
2
and
art
van
and
we're
finalizing
that
will
either
have
them.
You
know
we
told
the
people
we'll
get
back
with
them.
J
So
we
had
71
volunteers
out,
Saturday
included
our
cert
city
employees
and
we
had
assessment
sheets
from
Wayne
County,
so
we
went
out
and
down
the
most
severe
streets
and
did
some
assessment,
so
that
was
our
preliminary
assessment.
We
submitted
that
yesterday
morning
to
Wayne
County,
so
everything
goes
back
to
Wayne
County.
We
have
another
conference
call
tomorrow
morning.
They
worked
with
the
state
and
everything
gets
set
back
to
this
the
governor
and
then
she'll
determine
if
it
goes
on
to
FEMA
level.
J
J
Saturday
we
had
to
please
fire
dpw.
We
helped
51
people
get
some
heavy
items
out
of
their
basements.
You
know
we
can't
make
that
a
practice,
but
these
were
the
elderly
that
were
very
desperate.
So
we
worked
got
that
stuff
out.
We
had
a
trash
pickup
last
Saturday
we'll
have
another
one
for
our
residents
in
the
south
end
next
Saturday.
J
J
So
we
dropped
off
blankets,
we're
down
at
the
Richard
a
young
Center
with
the
Red
Cross
this
weekend
and
we
passed
out
over
250
cleaning
kits.
So
there
was
a
process
there.
You
had
to
come
in
and
see
a
Red
Cross
rep
and
they
they
distributed
the
kits
to
you
so
that
went
over
pretty
good.
A
lot
of
people
got
advice
on
how
to
neutralize
sterilized
their
basement
so
that
helped
out.
J
350
buckets
okay,
I
was
a
hundred
short,
while
this
is
a
horrible
situation
for
a
residence
I'm,
proud
of
thankful
for
all
the
employees
and
volunteers
who
offered
their
extra
time
and
resources
to
be
there
for
our
residents
and
their
families.
After
speaking
with
representatives
from
some
of
the
other
cities,
and
in
fact
we
had
a
few
other
cities
come
down
to
the
event
at
Richard,
a
young
because
it
wasn't
just
for
residents
and
they
expressed
how
that
we're
one
of
the
leading
communities
and
reaching
out
to
our
citizens
at
a
tailor.
J
Councilman
come
down
and
he
was
impressed
with
the
aid
he
was
getting
from:
Red
Cross,
Red
Cross.
So,
lastly,
we're
still
getting
calls
for
help
and
restoration.
Hot
water,
furnaces
and
appliances
were
asking
anyone
out
there.
Any
contractors
that
are
willing
to
volunteer
their
services.
Still
a
lot
of
furnaces
are
out
hot
water
tanks
give
the
mayor's
office
a
call,
seven
nine
one.
Thirty
four,
ninety
well
at
list.
We
still
had
people
calling
today.
J
So
if
we
have
any
contractors,
I
wanted
to
discuss
the
volunteers
a
little
bit,
we
had
a
lot
of
groups
call
for
volunteers.
My
concern
is
I,
don't
want
to
put
a
lot
of
the
groups
with
younger
kids
and
that
I
didn't
want
to
put
them
into
these
homes
with
that
water
and
contamination.
So
we
can
eliminate
the
volunteers.
J
We
had
one
group,
a
local
church
from
Dearborn
Woodside
Church.
They
sent
us
like
15
students
and
adults
and
they
helped
in
the
assessment.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
good
volunteers
and
just
on
a
closing
note
tomorrow,
which
is
May
8th
at
the
Justice
Center
from
1
o'clock
to
8
o'clock,
we
in
cooperation
with
Wayne
County
is
gonna,
have
a
multi-agency
Resource
Center
set
up
there.
J
So
at
the
Justice
Center
we're
gonna
use
a
date
room
from
one
day:
Wayne
County
is
gonna,
be
there
state
of
Michigan
and
there's
going
to
be
different
groups,
I
believe
there's
eight
groups
the
way
the
director
said.
It's
where
residents
impacted,
can
receive
assistance
from
an
array
of
government
and
nonprofit
agencies.
We're
gonna
have
the
Red
Cross
Salvation
Army
Wayne
County,
Department
of
Health
Veterans
and
Community
Affairs
state
of
Michigan
Health
and
Human
Services
state
of
Michigan
Department
of
Insurance
and
Financial
Services
and
volunteer
organizing
active
in
disaster.
J
So
it's
a
void
group
I,
don't
know
for
sure.
If
they'll
be
looking,
you
know
for
for
people
that
they
can
assist,
but
I
recommend
our
residents
and
anyone
else.
That's
listening!
It's
going
to
be
tomorrow
from
1
to
8
in
conjunction
with
the
county
down
at
the
Justice
Center.
That's
it!
Thank
you
for
your
help.
Any
questions
or.
C
Yeah
I
want
to
say
thank
you
because
I
know
we
had
been
on
the
phone
since
the
very
beginning,
trying
to
find
resources.
You
guys
did
a
great
job
by
the
way
trying
to
you
know,
get
the
resources
to
pay
American
Red,
Cross,
Salvation
Army
the
following
day,
setting
up
at
the
Justice
Center.
Thank
you
to
them
for
that
support
for
emergency
shelter
for
folks,
so
that
was
very
good.
C
I
did
want
to
say
as
Senator
Alexander's
community
as
on
we
partnered
with
services
to
enhance
potential
to
do
clothing
replacement,
and
that
document
has
gone
out
to
all
of
the
mayor's
offices
in
the
fifth
District,
so
Garden,
City,
Redford,
ingster,
Dearborn,
Heights
part
of
Detroit
has
that
information,
so
that
is
available
to
residents
as
well.
We
will
make
sure
they
know
that
that
services
to
enhance
potential
step
is
giving
out
vouchers
for
the
clothing
as
well
as
local
food.
C
Pantries
that
are
delivering
actually
they're
delivering
like
today
was
over
30
families
were
delivered
to
food.
If
they've
lost
food,
if
the
refrigeration
you
know
because
of
power,
they
lost
food.
We're
replacing
things
for
these
folks.
I.
Just
have
one
question
and
you're
bringing
in
disaster
relief
teams
or
no
because
I
know
we
had
a
question
about
that.
There
was
one:
that's
a
national
disaster
relief
team
that
is
through
the
North
American
mission
board
and
they
work
with
a
Michigan,
State
Police,
but
I
know
they
don't
take
care
of
rental
properties.
C
J
When
this
group
shows
up
vote
group
I
learned
from
the
director
Emergency
Management
with
state
police,
that
a
lot
of
these
groups
are
certified
and
vetted
we're
going
to
work
on
getting
a
list,
so
we
know
who
we
can
trust
and
send
into
these
homes
of
our
residents
right.
We
just
don't
want
to
send
anyone
in,
and
you
know
if
we
can't
trust
them
and
stuff
come
up.
No.
C
Question
you
and
I
already
discussed
it,
but
it
since
this
is
gonna,
be
aired
and
taped
I
was
contacted
because
you
know
I
know.
Councilman
Wentzel
was
at
the
Richard
a
young
center.
We
were
talking
to
our
you
know,
residents
a
very
difficult
time
trying
to
be
as
supportive
as
we
can
be,
but
many
had
asked
a
question
about
the
sirens
not
being
used
and
you
and
I
had
talked
about
that
and
talking
about
making
it
a
uniform
across
Wayne
County.
Can
you
share
an
update
for
residents
just
because
that
question?
J
That
question
in
regards
to
the
sirens
you
know,
usually
people
are
aware
when
they
go
off
in
the
spring
in
the
summer,
with
the
tornadoes
thunderstorms
she
was
addressing,
could
we
put
them
off
foot
in
floods?
We
are
working
as
part
of
Wayne
County,
Emergency
Management
to
come
up
with
a
guideline
as
the
wooden.
We
use
those
sirens
if
we
use
them
in
a
day.
J
You
know
in
this
past
winter
we've
used
them
for
some
of
the
snow
warnings
you
know
and
to
get
the
cars
off
the
street
so
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
a
procedure
with
Wayne
County
so
that
all
the
communities
around
are
consistent
and
when
you
hear
sirens
in
Garden,
City
or
Dearborn,
it's
all
for
the
same
reason.
So
we're
working
on
that
right.
L
J
L
G
Man
I'm
sure,
if
I
might
I
hit
a
conversation
with
councilman
one
soul,
I've
lost
track
of
time,
but
last
couple
days,
if
the
council
would
like
I'm
more
than
happy
to
put
together
a
program
update
because
I
think
all
of
you
need
to
get
an
update,
we
had
one
in
February
but
I.
Don't
know
that
everybody
lives
with
the
eCourse
Creek
on
an
everyday
basis.
I
would
be
willing
to
get
our
attorneys
and
the
engineers
together,
give
you
a
good
synopsis
of
where
we're
at
and
what
we're
doing.
G
The
ultimate
solution,
and
the
council
approved
of
the
item
is
that
we've
asked
Wayne
County
to
elect
immediately
a
smaller
project
to
get
some
relief
in
there.
So
I
checked
with
Patrick
McCullough
today
and
Patrick
said
that
request
has
been
made
it
so
far
that
the
county
is
not
responded
to
that,
but
the
Army
Corps
would
come
in
and
do
a
mini
project.
The
beauty
of
that
is
it's
not
conditional
upon
federal
funding.
G
A
B
Remember
to
14
like
it
was
yesterday
and
to
11,
also
and
I
said
it
then
and
I'll
say
it
now.
This
is
bigger
than
our
city.
Our
city
can't
do
this
by
itself.
This
is
good
this.
This
is
something
that
our
elected
officials
in
in
County,
the
state
and
the
federal
government
need
to
be.
You
know,
I,
know
they're,
aware
of
it,
but
it's
time
to
get
off
the
pot.
B
Let's
put
it
that
way,
it's
time
to
get
off
the
pot
I
think
local
government
has
done
just
about
everything
they
possibly
can
do
in
the
last
50
years
of
these
dis
flooding
issue
and
why
we
were
even
allowed
to
build
homes
on
flood
plains.
Just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
at
all.
We
see
that
the
catastrophes
out
in
California
where
people
lose
million-dollar
homes,
because
they're
built
in
the
in
the
wilderness
and
you
keep
building
them.
When
you
know
the
fighters
are
gonna
happen.
It
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
B
Okay,
now
I'm
not
saying
that
the
people
that
our
owning
these
homes
are
wrong,
but
50
years
50
60
years
ago,
they
should
never
have
been
built.
Should
never
have
been
built,
unfortunately,
and
I
feel
I,
don't
know
how
I
would
react
to
I'm
and
I've
had
water
in
my
basement
and
240.
Now
it's
devastating
and
but
I
can't
even
begin
to
know
what
they
felt
like
I
mean
I
had
replaced
burnt
furnaces
and
water
heaters
and
washing
machines
and
dryers.
B
J
A
J
G
That
I
took
the
state
police
lieutenant
around
to
see,
but
there
are
other
streets
that
were
really
badly
affected,
and
then
you
had
the
construction
that
we're
doing
on
Annapolis,
which
didn't
help
and
and
and
there
was
also
there's
some
construction
going
on
around
Madison,
and
so
that
compounded.
But
we
didn't
know
that
we
were
going
to
have
a
flood
and
we
wanted
to
get
those
streets
corrected.
You're,
never
going
no
and
it
was
I
could
not
transfer
on
Thursday
but
yeah.
G
G
J
J
Work
that
night
is
when
you
know
people
come
home,
they
thought
they
could
play
in
the
water.
They
were
pulling
people
out
the
fire
truck
rescue.
They
were
out
there.
They
sustained
some
water
damage,
so
they
weren't
playing,
but
they
they
were
going
to
some
runs
so
a
couple
of
the
rescue
squads
and
that
so
yep
the
city
vehicles
just
a
lot
of
areas,
kind
of
scattered
here
and
there
so
counts.
O
Know
living
in
the
south
end
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
driving
around
for
the
four
or
five
days
there,
and
it's
really
a
heartbreaking
I
mean
it's
heartbreaking
to
see,
but
these
people
go
through.
You
know
a
little
bit.
You
lose
so
many
personal
items,
things
that
aren't
covered
by
insurance.
It's
just
terrible
to
go
through
that
and
I
know
there
was
there
an
issue
with
dojin
on
towing
and
I
me
and
a
couple
of
my
friends.
O
There
was
actually
one
contractor,
not
gonna
mention
his
name,
but
he
told
me
he's
been
pulling
people
out
all
day
for
$350
and
that's
outrageous
that
that
can
that
can
be
taken
place.
I
got
a
lot
of
calls
and
lot
of
texts
and
emails
from
people
that
tried,
calling
City,
Hall
and
all
I
got
was
a
voicemail
and
they
left
their
information
anyway,
and
they
want
to
know
if
that
information
that
they
left
is
good.
And
what
good
is
it
doing?
What
actually,
by
leaving
their
information?
What
did
that
accomplish
earlier.
J
Maybe
I
said
address
that,
because
I
commit
messages
left,
we
were
staffed
all
weekend
in
the
mayor's
office
with
people
answering
the
phones,
we
put
their
name
on
their
master
list.
People
are
bringing
up.
Fema
paperwork,
there's
no
FEMA
paperwork
that
hasn't
reached
that
level.
Yet,
but
all
that
is
it's
given
us
a
list
of
the
people
that
were
flooded
and
we're
keeping
a
master
list.
No.
J
Inappropriate
information
was
put
out
that
messed
up
the
county
and
all
the
communities
trying
to
collect
the
paperwork.
There
was
no
time
limit.
We
had
a
time
limit
that
we
had
to
submit
preliminary
data
back
to
Wayne
County
and
we
got
that
in
people
can
still
call
tomorrow
this
week.
This
is
a
list
we're
gonna
keep
for
the
future.
So
we've
got
our
statistics.
How
many
actual
homes
were
affected,
so
they
can
continue
calling
some
people
have
called
two
or
three
times
we
have
a
database,
we
check
it.
J
Some
of
them
are
down
there
already
and
we
tell
everybody
to
keep
track.
Watch
your
tonight's
website,
turban,
Heights,
cable,
if
anything
goes
further,
where
we
need
additional
information.
If
the
governor
sends
it
up
federally
and
there's
FEMA
paperwork
that
will
be
a
you
know:
News,
on
cable
songs,
our
cable
is
up
and
running,
we'll
be
good.
G
L
Gonna
add
two
really
quick
things
at
councilman
winn
still
brought
up
the
price
gouging.
The
price
gouging
has
always
been
an
issue
anytime,
there's
a
flood.
It's
not
only
that,
but
it's
restoration
companies
coming
in
I
got
a
call
and
I'm
not
going
to
name
the
restoration
company,
but
he
told
me
that
the
firefighters
and
police
officers
that
were
out
there
Friday
and
Saturday,
then
the
DPW
on
Sunday
saved
residents
on
average
of
twelve
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
on
average,
they
were
out
there
for
five
minutes,
a
household
pulling
out
one
or
two
cabinets.
L
So
these
gouging
continues
we're
asking
residents
if
they
don't
feel
comfortable
with
prices,
to
call
us
we're
not
going
to
recommend
companies,
but
we
do.
We
have
two
companies
on
two
companies
that
really
helped
us
this
week.
Again:
I'm
not
gonna
advertise
her
name,
but
they
actually
were
there.
Giving
us
updates
that
we
were
posting
on
Facebook
about
furnaces,
hot
water
tanks.
Most
of
them
don't
have
to
be
replaced,
there's
parts
that
they
have
to
fix,
and
so,
if
you
have
any
issue
any
resident,
he
has
an
issue
and
that
doesn't
sound
right.
L
First
of
all,
get
two
quotes,
secondly,
call
the
mayor's
office
and,
while
we're
not
may
be
able
to
help
you
with
your
your
assistance
in
that
we
will
get
you
a
more
accurate
statement
and
whether
it's
on
whether
it's
broken
rod.
Secondly,
anybody
that
called
the
mayor's
office
throughout
this
weekend
and
I
know
people
were
having
problems
Monday
morning,
but
all
four
phones
were
off
and
being
answered
on
that
on.
L
We
did
call
everybody
back
from
there
if
they
didn't
get
a
call
back
either
they
weren't
clear
and
writing
the
number
down
or
maybe,
in
speaking
the
number.
We
are
continuing
to
get
calls
and
something
we're
doing
different
this
time
than
last
time
on
there's
two
things:
the
forms
we're
not
providing
forms
we
provided
forms
before
and
Germer
nights
is
unfortunately,
very
used
to
the
flooding.
So
we
we've
got
the
on
situation
down
in
the
forms
we
distributed
forms
in
2014
we
distributed
forms
in
2004.
L
Those
people
turned
in
the
forum's
along
with
photos
and
thought
they
were
all
set
on
when
FEMA
left
in
2014
I.
Remember
they
sold
all
the
radio
stations
you
have
to
come
in.
You
have
to
come
in,
you
have
to
come.
There
are
some
people
that
didn't
get
anything
or
a
couple
hundred
bucks,
but
there
are
people
that
got
30,
40
or
even
50
thousand
dollars
these
people.
Some
of
these
people
lost
out
on
that
money
because
they
thought
they
were
all
set
submitting
data
to
the
mayor's
office.
L
We're
not
adjusters,
but
we
know
the
information
we
need
and
we're
gonna
again
tell
them
that
when
FEMA,
if
in
one
FEMA
comes
in
or
another
state
agency,
this
is
going
to
be
different.
We
don't
want
anybody
to
lose
out
on
any
opportunities,
so
continue
to
call
the
mayor's
office.
Like
chief
Gavin
said
we
have
one
resident.
She
god
bless
her,
that
she
calls
every
hour
just
to
make
sure
and
she's
still
on
the
list.
So
hope
we
will
continue
to
take
names.
C
G
G
And
the
other
thing
was
I
was
very
thankful
that
I
received
the
call
from
Governor
Whitmer
I
received
a
call
from
both
of
our
congresswoman
Debbie
Dingell
and
Rasheeda
pledging
their
full
help
and
support.
Senator
Peters
came
in
on
Sunday.
He
pledged
his
particular
support,
so
hopefully
we
will
get
federal
assistance,
but
that
so
people
are
not.
It
was
to
come
up
with
that
assessment.
O
Want
to
follow
up
on
net
Saturday,
we
had
our
eCourse
Creek
cleanup
and
there
were
some
areas
that
we
had
scouted
before
the
flood.
One
of
them
was
Detroit
Street
runoff
of
am
born
and
I
went
down
there
with
a
crew
and
the
water
that,
while
officer
was
down,
but
the
street
had
about
a
half
inch
of
muck
in
it.
So
we
went
drove
in
or
got
through
the
muck
before
we
finished
that
cleanup,
which
took
about
hour
and
a
half
the
city
came
by
with
a
street
sweeper
cleaning.
O
F
So
echo
what
councilman
Wentzel
mentioned,
I
also
received
several
calls,
probably
from
the
same
people.
There
should
be
a
process
of
somebody
cause
I
mean
even
today,
I've
gotten
calls
from
people.
Nobody
responded
to
them,
so
they
called
it
left
their
phone
number,
their
their
address,
so
I
mean
we
keep
going
back
and
forth,
but
to
better
this
process
can
can
some
city
post
the
addresses
so
or
something
that
they
can
actually
look
at
that
hey
your
address.
F
J
L
Want
to
talk
to
them,
though,
if
they
didn't
get
a
call
back,
there's
a
problem:
either
we
didn't
take
down
the
number
right,
we're
having
a
lot
of
extra
help
from
different
departments,
come
in
and
take
the
number
right
or
they
didn't
speak
you
clearly
or
sometimes,
when
they're
so
upset.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
right
information
from
them,
so
it
it's!
A
Also
to
you
might
want
to
check
with
your
phone
provider,
because
when
you
take
a
voicemail
message
and
you
listen
to
it,
there
is
an
option:
I'm,
not
sure
what
who
your
provider
is.
You
can
I
can
push
a
certain
number
and
a
respect.
The
number
that
was
on
that
recording,
whether
I
can
understand
or
not,
because
I've
done,
that
with
my
own
personal
phone
hours,.
A
No,
no
I
can
call
our
idea
and
the
right
one
it's
alright.
This
is
the
actual
voicemail
I
had
at
one
time.
50,
voicemails
and
I
could
push
that
number
and
it
told
me
every
number
I
will
I
will
check
with
you.
Just
you
gotta
look
for
it's
buried
in
the
system.
It's
something
you
normally
wouldn't
use.
If
you
didn't
know,
if
it
was
there,
no.
F
Other
thing
is,
you
know
as
a
constant
mode
one
so
I've
gotten
calls,
and
actually
it's
pretty
disgusting
that
you
know
I
remember
after
9/11,
I
was
after
the
the
9/11
incident.
There
are
people
were
couching
residents
or
people
with
gas,
so
I
mean
I.
Remember,
I
was
activated
so
I
mean
the
federal
government
got
involved
and
they
find
those
individuals
for
price
gouging.
So
with
this
here
we
have
the
towing
companies.
F
There's
one
towing
company
I,
don't
want
to
mention
its
name,
because
it's
actually
vetted
by
the
city
and
it
was
recommended
by
the
city
and
it's
used
by
the
city.
They
were
price.
Gouging
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
ridiculous.
They
were
charging
over
five
between
five
to
six
hundred
bucks
with
three
residents
that
I
talked
to
okay,
that
that
company
that
I
actually
checked
few
companies
in
the
city
well,
Derwin
and
Taylor,
and
couple
other
cities
that
you
use
different
company
and
their
price
was
less
than
a
quarter.
F
Police
was
present
in
the
area
whether
we're
towing
this
one
particular
vehicle
for
four
or
five
hundred
and
something
dollars,
and
it
was
the
next
day
he
went
to
pick
it
up
and
he
asked
if
they
can
pull
this
vehicle,
but
they
towed
it
to
their
yard
and
we
still
charge
them.
That
I
mean
it's.
It's
ridiculous
that
these
guys
they're
already
suffering
from
the
flood,
and
now
we
got
them
I'm
towing
their
vehicle.
So
now
they
get
their
vehicle
out
of
commission
in
their
house.
Yes,
so
we
need
to
find
out.
F
J
J
State
Police
had
recommended,
maybe
a
good
ideas
when
you
put
your
items
out
at
the
curb
spray-paint
put
an
X
on
it,
something
so
that
property
don't
end
up
at
the
local
thrift
store
where
me
and
you
are
going
in
to
buy
it.
So
if
there's
some
way
that
damaged
equipment
put
out
there,
if
you
mark
it
and
then
we've
been
working
with
the
police
and
making
sure
that
they're
enforcing
our
junk
collector
scavengers
and
that
we
don't
need
people
going
down
the
streets
collecting
this
stuff
is.
D
J
S
There
was
an
issue
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
by
a
locale
comely
6
Clayton.
She
said
an
email
about
towing
service
that
was
charging
some
fees.
I
talked
to
our
towing
service
that
we
use.
He
gave
us
our
fees
that
he
charges.
Some
of
the
fees
are
more
expensive
because
it's
specialized
equipment
that
they're
using
the
as
far
as
the
gouging,
anybody
that
was
on
the
roadway
who
operated
a
car
into
the
water.
Those
were
the
vehicles
that
had
to
be
removed
from
the
roadway,
so.
S
If
the
car
could
be
picked
up
out
of
the
water
and
placed
somewhere
that's
a
specific
fee,
if
it's
picked
up
and
towed
out
and
stored,
that's
an
additional
fee.
So
yeah
some
fees
can
be
up
to
close
to
you
know
$500.
If
it
was
picked
up
with
the
specialized
equipment,
hauled
to
the
yard
and
then
there's
a
storage
and
towing
fee.
So
it
does
add
up
is
a
gouging.
S
C
C
C
S
If
a
police
officer
responded
to
the
scene
and
the
car
was
in
the
roadway,
creating
a
traffic
hazard,
that
vehicle
was
pulled
out
and
removed
to
a
dry
ground
if
they
said
hey,
I
could
get
this
towed
out
of
here
or
whatever.
Then
they
were
responsible
for
the
fee
for
removing
it
from
the
roadway
for.
S
A
S
People
out
of
the
cars
for
safety
reasons-
and
you
know
the
next
thing-
was
to
get
their
cars
out
of
the
roadway.
So
it's
I
mean
some
of
them
were
pushed
out.
Some
of
them
were
hauled
out,
but
none
of
the
people
that
were
I'm
gonna
sound
cold,
but
they
drove
into
places
they
shouldn't
have
been,
and
the
majority
of
these
happened
they
weren't
on
the
side
streets.
They
were
on
major
thoroughfares,
so
that's
I
I
understand
people
thought
they
had
to
get
somewhere.
S
B
J
Point-
and
we
did
see
that
that
night
after
five
o'clock
when
the
kids
were
home,
I
was
down
there.
People
are
driving
by
as
fast
as
they
can
make
him
wake.
It
look
like
a
bunch
of
boats.
Oh
these
were
the
ones
that
were
out
playing
in
the
water
and
maybe
there's
some
of
the
ones
that
broke
down
or
got
stuck.
But
let's.
G
A
O
Comments
for
the
chief
here
he
said
they
shouldn't
be
driving
I
pushed
out
10
or
11
cars
Wednesday,
the
first
one
was
3
a.m.
in
the
morning.
I
was
going
grocery
shopping,
I
didn't
realize
his
flood
I
walked
on
my
door,
I
seen
it
flooded.
I
got
a
four-wheel-drive
truck.
I
went
out
on
Telegraph
right
on
Hanover
I,
seen
a
card
right
at
the
edge
of
the
water,
a
guy
sitting
there
waving
and
waving
and
I
stopped,
and
he
said,
can
you
push
me
out?
O
The
last
guy
pushed
out
was
about
6:30
in
the
evening,
and
it
was
in
an
area
where
we're
close
to
my
house,
not
not
deep
water
at
all,
but
he
said
a
guy
came
by
flying
with
a
four-wheel-drive
truck
and
it
passed
each
other
and
splashed
all
over
his
car
stalled
out
and
the
police
were
gonna
tow
him
away.
If
he
didn't
get
his
car
out
of
there
right
away
so
I
mean
some
people,
you
have
to
do
something.
You
can't
just
sit
at
home.
O
You
can't
you
can't
say:
well,
you
shouldn't
be
driving
through
the
water,
so
some
people
have
to
drive
through
the
water
and
take
a
chance.
So
it's
not
just
their
fault.
For
this
happening
and
the
part
the
price
gouging
happened.
It's
a
fact:
I
can
get
written
statements
from
people,
I
know,
and
it's
something
that
was
terrible
and
some
some
kind
of
action
should
be
taken
because
I,
like
my
councilmen
bazi
I,
have
names
of
companies
that
did
this.
C
Councilman,
thank
you
I'm,
just
real,
quick
again.
This
is
an
ongoing
problem.
We
know
what
the
fixes
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
have
made
the
recommendation
that
passed
pair
an
independent
review.
It
is
in
congressional
appropriations.
We
all
should
be
lobbying
by
the
way,
encouraging
our
residents
to
lobby
to
call
to
write
work
with
our
congresswoman
Talib
and
Dingell
as
well
as
County
officials
is
the
time
we
need
to
all
be
coming
together.
I
want
to
talk.
G
G
C
Correct
and
I
agree:
100%
I've
said
that
for
several
years
now,
because
2014
for
me
was
very
high
weight
opening,
you
know
walking
from
those
homes
and
seeing
what
I
saw
these
last
few
days,
I'm
shocked
again
all
over
I.
Think
it's
worse,
but
my
question
is
this:
is
my
last
question:
are
you
ready?
Okay?
My
question
is,
and
this
is
coming
from
residents
who
are
flood
victims,
especially
on
along
Hanover
right,
the
homes
part
of
the
FEMA
mitigation,
grant
that
we're
now
now
gone.
C
We
have
the
space
part
of
the
grant
if
I,
recall
and
I
think
others
can
will
concur
with
me-
was
that
was
going
to
be
turned
into
this
Greenway
similar
like
a
mini
Heinz
with
a
deep
root
plants
and
all
these
things
that
would
help
with
stormwater
management
cuz.
What
happened
is
the
homes
that
are
left
there.
They
took
a
brunt
of
water
from
this
storm
and
they
were
under
the
impression
that
wouldn't
happen.
L
That
was
never
that
project.
Like
we
explained
the
council,
we
please
explain
to
other
people
that
that
should
have
maybe
helped
it
this
much.
That
was
more
on
a
poster
child
project,
because
the
solution
is
the
265
million
dollar
solution.
It's
not
the
1.3
million
dollar
grant
that
I.
Think
two
point
three
excuse
me
so
that
is
in
the
process.
L
We
were
ready
to
plant
in
the
fall
when
we
had
a
new
person,
come
to
the
State
Police
and
offered
our
engineers
the
opportunity
to
possibly
redesign
that
from
what
they
initially
had
was
the
plant
system,
but
actually
put
in
a
little
bit.
It's
not
a
retention
basin,
but
there's
a
place
where
it
can
hold
the
water
and
then
drain
back
to
the
Creek
after
it
daddy
had
to
get
extra
FEMA
approval,
that's
still
getting
extra
female
approval,
but
it
should
be
done.
I
mean,
like
we've,
got
the
engineers
ready.
L
This
isn't
like
this
isn't
like
the
Army
Corps
study.
This
is
this
is
like
months
and
months,
not
years
and
years
so
Dennis
and
on
it
the
other
people
that
that
think
that
there's
these
huge
grants
out
there
that
the
city
gets
these
grants
are
small.
The
next
grant
that
we
had
was
a
courier
grant
that
we're
still
working
on
that's
for
eight
homes,
we're
not.
They
really
need
to
contact
the
higher
up
with
officials,
because
these
little
eight
homes
at
a
time
is
not
gonna
fix.
The
problem.
Thank.
H
But
I
just
feel
very
sorry
for
the
residents
and
what
they
had
to
go
through.
That
means
I
had
very,
very
devastating,
obviously
so
I
just
hope
they,
the
the
people
higher
up,
whether
it's
the
county,
the
state
or
the
federal
government
can
figure
out
a
solution
to
this,
and
this
is
the
United
States
in
2019.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
problem.
The
I
remember
from
my
age,
for
you
know
15
20
years
and
then
I've
read
in
the
papers.
You
know
40
50
60
years.
H
I
just
cannot
believe
that
in
the
United
States
of
America
2019
with
all
the
money
that
we've
got
available
to
us,
we
cannot
find
a
solution
to
this.
When
I
say
us,
I
don't
mean
the
city
I'm
talking
about
higher
up.
Over
and
above
us,
I
have
spoken
with
some
people
on
that,
but
obviously
it's
got
to
something's
got
to
be
done.
H
We
can't
just
keep
talking
about
this
and
talking
about
this
and
talking
about
this
because,
as
we
all
know,
it's
not
over
its
gonna
happen
every
when
it
rained
today
I
mean
my
head
was
on
my
heart
thinking.
You
know
I
feel
sorry
for
people
have
to
go
through
this
yeah.
Honestly,
it's
a
shame
and
a
lot
of
us
don't.
E
Questions
in
number
one
regarding
the
towing
fees,
there
are
investigations,
there's
a
class-action
lawsuit
that
you
know:
towing
companies,
gouging
people
get
arrested
for
drunk
driving
and
they
impound
their
cars
or
they're
in
an
accident.
It's
it's
the
the
this
recent
investigation
that
involved
the
mayor,
Taylor
that
arose
out
of
wiretaps
and
different
information
regarding
their
towing
contracts,
but
the
city
that
are
the
the
the
company
that
does
towing
for
or
is
sometimes
called
by,
the
police
for
Berman
Heights.
There's
no
they're,
not
on
a
list.
We
don't
receive
any
of
that
money.
J
All
my
years
here
and
knowing
present
chief,
there
was
never
a
contract
with
the
tow
company
when
I
was
chief.
If
we
didn't
like
their
services,
we
could
switch
companies
at
any
time.
There
was
no
connection.
Some
cities,
like
you
brought
up,
have
a
tow
yard,
get
a
percentage
of
the
toy
yard.
We
have
no
money
coming
back,
they
do
the
tow
they've
been
here
as
long
as
I
was
a
policeman
forty
years
I.
J
C
J
B
D
A
A
T
A
Get
from
you
later,
let
me
finish
this
and
then
okay.
As
far
as
the
budget
wrap-up
goes,
I'm
gonna
have
all
the
council
members
if
they
feel
that
it
needs
to
be
any
change
whatsoever
to
these.
Maybe
there
won't
be
any,
but
if
you
have
any
changes,
email
me
by
Thursday
and
I'll
get
them
together
enough
and
then
I'll
bring
them
to
the
next
meeting
and
we
can
figure
out
where
we're
at
and
then
just
wrap
it
up,
get
it
done.
E
H
K
G
N
A
So
can
can
we
put
a
director,
a
deputy
director?
Well
I
was
talking
to
deputy
director
constant.
Is
it
possible?
We
can
get
something
at
the
Senior
Service,
even
something
posted
on
the
doors
tomorrow
morning.
I
think
you
know
I've
worked
perfect.
Thank
you
that
way,
they're
aware
of
it
cuz
they
yeah.
They
all
watch
it
on
cable,
okay,
I'm
opening
up
to
public
comment.
Please
step
up
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
address
and
please
limit
it
to
three
minutes.
I
has.
P
The
car
is
irreplaceable,
so
and
I'm
on
board
I
really
like
the
way
everybody
was
talking
and
regards
to
making
certain
that
we
kind
of
look
at
this,
and
if
it's
anything
I
can
do.
However,
I
can
help
I'm
willing
to
find
a
way
to
put
some
time,
but
we
really
need
a
serious
solution
as
husband
thanks
I've.
Never
in
my
life
gonna
play
around.
P
G
G
P
F
A
A
M
2014
really
flooded,
there
was
my
first
big
one
devastated,
$25,000
I
lost,
lost
blah
blah
blah
did
not
cover
my
driveway,
just
nothing
2014
the
city,
my
understanding
changed
the
Tri
level
that
I
bought
to
a
basement
today,
when
the
insurance
company
came,
they
only
paid
me
for
the
basement.
They
did
not
pay
me
for
any
of
this
stuff.
Here,
my
couches,
my
bar
everything
I,
had
in
there
none
of
it
was
covered
just
what
I
had
in
the
basement.
M
I've
been
paying
taxes-
okay
since
2014
for
the
whole
house
that
I
cannot
live
in
anymore,
because
I'm
not
putting
anything
down
here.
I
have
grandkids
that
come
and
spend
the
day,
and
sometimes
quite
a
few
days
with
me,
I
can't
send
them
down
there
to
play.
I
lost
all
their
toys.
Everything
was
gone
in
the
flood
and
I
want
to
know.
M
What's
gonna
be
done,
my
understanding
when
I
came
to
pay
my
water
bill
in
three
houses
that
they
knocked
down
they're
putting
in
their
native
plants,
that
my
understanding
is
that
they
suck
up
water,
but
it's
not
gonna
help
our
flood.
This
is
what
I
heard.
Then
I
heard
that
they're
buying
16
houses
that
are
left
on
that
same
side
I
want
to
know
what
they're
doing
my
biggest
thing
I
want
to
do
is
to
get
out
of
Dearborn
Heights
I
want
to
know
what
you're
gonna
do
about
that.
Mr.
M
G
M
G
G
Well,
it
would,
it
would
do
two
things
that
number
one,
that
plan
removes
assures
that
the
amount
of
flooding
would
be
reduced
about
three
percent
most,
that
would
be
street
flooding.
The
other
thing
it
would
do
is
get
everyone
who
lives
down
there
if
you
in
you've
been
a
longtime
resident,
so
you're
probably
like
me
and
don't
have
a
mortgage
in
sorry.
G
And
and
I
recognized
a
nice,
so
what
the
hope
would
be
that
solution
would
get
people
out
of
the
flood,
the
federal
flood
insurance,
and
that
would
be
a
considerable
saving
because
they
would
need
it
anymore.
It
would
solve
the
the
the
condition.
That
is
the
ultimate
solution.
Is
that
how
long
will
that
take.
M
G
G
A
Man,
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
here
earlier
when
we
were
talking
about
the
Wayne
County
meeting
tomorrow
at
the
Justice
Center
from
1
to
8,
with
multi-agent
Resource
Center
for
people
who
have
issues
with
the
flooding.
It
might
be
something
you
might
want
to
look
into
yeah.
What
I
think
it
would
help
anybody
if
they
anybody
else.
I
hear
that
has
any
further
questions.
That's
the
place
you
want
to
be
tomorrow
between
1
and
8,
at
our
Justice
Center,
okay,.
G
G
A
E
M
E
M
A
M
A
D
Q
First
I
want
to
thank
the
police
department
and
the
fire
fighters
and
all
the
volunteers
for
what
they
done
on
the
south
and
second
I,
looked
at
all
the
minutes
for
15
16
years
from
the
city
council
meetings,
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
was
spent
on
cleaning
sewage
online
in
the
sewage
on
doing
lots
of
repairs,
and
you
know
band-aids
here
and
there
I
heard
our
mayor
talked
about
the
incinerator.
I
agree
with
him.
Q
This
should
be
a
lake
small
lake
retention
basin
beautiful
for
our
residents
on
that
side,
and
it's
not
going
to
cost
fifty
million
dollars
or
even
twenty
million
dollars.
It's
going
to
cost
I
in
estimate
most
estimate,
probably
between
five
to
ten
million
dollars.
It
is
lot
less
than
the
money
we
spent
over
the
15
years
on
band-aids
in
our
city.
I
urge
you
and
I
urged
the
mayor
to
think
about
that
old
incinerator
property.
You
said
that
you
want
to
do
it
as
a
little
lake
to
retain
the
the
water
from
the
rain.
Q
A
Q
U
C
Right
get
it
for
you.
What
you'll
meet
with
me,
you
what
you
need
for
your
kids,
your
toys,
if
you
need
food,
if
you
new
toys,
construction
paper
I'll
be
by
tomorrow,
and
only
please
please
thank
you
mayor,
please
this!
These
are
families
being
impacted.
This
is
too
much.
This
is
too
much
and
I
am
so
I
am
so
sorry
by
the
way
it
is
I
am
so
sorry.