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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, September 5, 2019.
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A
A
At
this
time,
I
read
the
rules
and
procedures
the
planet.
Zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
a
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
Commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plans.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
are
appealed,
please
contact
the
city
clerk
or
the
community
development
department
staff
for
details
on
council
hearings.
A
Applicants
will
be
given
ten
minutes
to
present
their
requests
proponents
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
being
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes.
The
acts
the
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
Commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
A
Please
notify
the
City
at
least
three
business
days
in
advance
at
two,
a
three
for
two:
the
ix
should
special
accommodations,
be
required.
Planning,
Zoning,
Commission
meetings
are
broadcast
and
media
can't
cable,
channel,
7.1
or
7.2
for
customers
with
that
service
transportation
for
City
of
Des
Moines
meetings
can
be
scheduled
to
and
from
Dart
Central
Station
at
6:20
Terry
Street
to
reserve
your
route.
Please
call
dart
on
call
scheduling
at
two
eight
three,
eight
one,
three
six
calls
for
trips
will
be
accepted
up
until
5:00
p.m.
A
A
B
D
D
A
A
A
On
consent,
item
number
two
is
request
from
antonio
martinez
for
review
and
approval
of
the
site
plan:
el
paso,
auto
sales
under
design
guidelines
for
vehicle
display,
Lots,
I'm
property
located
at
1716,
Army
Post
Road,
to
allow
reuse
of
the
existing
retail
commercial
site
for
vehicle
display
line.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
us
supporters
from
consent
all
right?
Seeing
none?
A
A
Will
remaining
consent,
I,
don't
number
for
its
request
from
Lutheran
Church
of
hope.
1821
Ingersoll,
Avenue
for
vacation
of
the
east-west
segment
of
the
alley
between
eager
saw
Avenue
and
High
Street
adjoining
the
north
side
of
the
subject
property
to
allow
the
property
to
be
assembled
with
the
applicants
property.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
we
should
see
her
this
item
tonight?
A
Alright
attorney
one
on
the
commission
that
was
had
to
pull
this
item
bring
them
item
number
four
remains
unconvinced.
Item
number
five
is
a
request
to
rezone
property
located
at
27,
25
Southwest,
30th
Street.
The
property
is
owned
by
August
home
publishing
company.
They
wish
to
amend
the
plan.
The
plan
des
moines
creating
our
tomorrow
to
revise
the
existing
future
land
use,
designation
from
Business
Park
to
low-density,
residential
and
rezone
property
from
the
M
3
limited
industrial
district
to
an
are
181
family
residential
district
to
allow
development
with
a
single-family
dwelling.
A
A
It's
my
understanding
that
item
number
8,
which
is
request
from
the
village
at
Gray's
lake
for
property,
located
at
twenty
five
hundred
and
twenty
seven
ten
floor
drive,
is
in
agreement
with
the
items
in
the
staff
recommendation,
and
it
are
the
property
owners
here
tonight
and
is
that
in
fact
correct
that
you're
angry
okay.
But
it
is
my
understanding
that
there
might
be
one
consent
card
that
yes,.
F
A
A
A
For
the
property
located
at
320,
south
southwest
ninth
Street
in
907
Tunnel
Street
to
allow
development
of
the
property
for
the
fourth
story,
hotel
with
98
guest
rooms
and
an
associative
surface
off
parking
lot
is
also
in
agreement
with
staff
recommendations.
Is
the
property
owner
here
tonight
and
is
that
in
fact
true
right
so
with
that?
Is
there
anyone
else
in
the
audience
that
we
hear
that
item
tonight
saying
that
no.
A
A
A
F
H
F
F
The
subject
property
is
located
between
23rd
and
24th,
Street
north
of
High
Street,
a
single
platted
lot
and
then
two
additional
plaid
Lots
on
either
side
of
the
north
south
valley.
There
should
be
noted
that
this
is
not
a
developed
portion
of
the
alley,
but
it
is
a.
It
is
still
considered
right
away.
F
This
was
in
front
of
you
previously
with
a
project
that
included
a
kind
of
live
work,
type
row
house
configuration
and
since
that
time
the
applicant
has
adjusted
their
request
to
only
provide
residential
use
in
in
the
form
of
a
row
house
development
abandoning
the
commercial
component
based
on
that
they
changed
their
future
land.
Use
amendment
to
the
plan
dsm
request
from
a
mixed-use
request
to
a
medium
density
request,
so
that
part
changed
and
then
the
proposal
of
their.
C
F
F
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
quick
look
at
the
way
these
this
area
appears
currently.
So
that's
looking
east
down,
High
Street,
so
your
subject,
properties
on
your
left,
there's
undeveloped,
property
on
the
right.
That's
part
of
the
ingersoll
PUD
for
the
sole
project
that
would
be
approved
for
a
multi-family
project
as
well
under
that
PUD,
as
it's
currently
approved.
F
F
Initially,
the
last
request
staff
was
recommending
denial
based
on
the
commercial
component
of
it
since
that
time,
they've
adjusted
that
proposal
to
reconfigure
and
go
with
of
strictly
the
row
houses.
They
are
eliminating
the
parking
but
consider
proposing
garages
underneath
our
traffic
is
not
supportive.
Traffic
engineering
is
not
supportive
of
having
separate
Drive
entrances
onto
High
Street,
based
on
a
lot
of
traffic
study,
work
that
they've
been
doing
in
that
area.
F
Given
the
parking
issues
and
so
forth,
they
were
it's
their
preference
that
that
be
preserved.
So
it
would
allow
on
street
parking
on
the
north
side
of
High
Street.
That
would
push
the
need
for
the
access
to
the
garages
in
behind
the
units
and
coming
off
of
drives.
That
would
come
off
of
23rd
and
24th
Street.
So
we
don't
have
a
redesign
for
that,
because
I
don't
think
they're
proposing
that,
but
that's
the
recommendation
that
traffic
is
suggesting.
F
Current
designation
from
the
plan
DSM
of
low
density
residential,
therefore
they're,
requesting
an
amendment
to
go
to
medium
density,
residential,
so
in
Part,
B
staff
is
recommending
that
the
future
land
use
designation
be
modified
and
I
want
to
point
out
that,
while
this
doesn't
follow
the
approved
woodland
Heights
plan,
it
is
still
in
furtherance
of
plan
DSM.
This
is
an
area.
That's
inning!
It's
in
a
commercial
node
community,
commercial
node.
That's
super
imposed
over
Ingersoll.
F
The
other
thing
that
the
plan
DSM
seeks
to
achieve
is
middle
housing,
development
at
the
fringes
of
areas
in
close
proximity
to
transit
corridors.
So
basically
that
means
walkable
distance.
Where
individuals
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
own
a
vehicle
to
live
there,
they
could
get
access
to
transit
within
a
walkable
distance.
So,
given
that
it
does
also
follow
the
plan
DSM
as
well,
so
that's
something
that
the
Commission
needs
to
take
into
account.
F
We
do
want
to
ensure
some
certain
development
standards
for
any
housing
that
is
built
even
in
light
of
having
a
review
of
the
site
plan.
We
want
certain
things
to
be
already
conditioned
for
this.
Rezoning
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
rezoning
subject
to
any
use
of
the
property
limited
to
uses,
allowed
and
limited
in
the
are
180
district,
duplex,
residential
and
Road
house
style
residential,
and
this
will
also
transfer
into
the
housing
types
that
we
identify
in
our
proposed
zoning
ordinance.
F
Three,
each
I'm,
sorry
number
two,
any
non
single-family
residential
upon
the
property
shall
be
constructed
as
row
house
style
dwelling
units
which
are
each
which
each
drawing
unit
has
a
front
door
or
an
entry
presence
facing
the
public
street
or
streets
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
planning
administrator.
It's
conceivable
and
units
could
have
doors
facing
the
side
streets
as
well
and
I.
Think.
In
fact,
we
would
probably
have
a
preference
for
that.
F
Giving
some
Street
presence
on
the
sides
as
well
any
dwelling
unit
construct
each
dwelling
unit
constructed,
shall
have
a
minimum
two-car
attached
garage
that
is
accessed
from
a
driveway
from
either
the
existing
alley
or
from
23rd
or
24th
Street.
No
Drive
approach
from
high
street
shall
be
permitted.
So
that's
based
on
the
traffic
engineering
recommendation
not
to
allow
separate
drive
accesses
on
two
high
street
number.
I
F
Any
dwelling
unit
constructed
shall
comply
with
the
following.
A
front.
Facade
of
any
dwelling
unit
must
contain
one
of
the
following
a
front
porch
of
not
less
than
sixty
square
feet,
or
at
least
one
third
of
the
facade
shall
be
clad
with
stone
or
brick.
Masonry
be
windows
on
any
facade
facing
a
public
street
shall
have
either
the
following
trim:
border
of
not
less
than
four
inches
width
or
shutters
on
each
side,
see
the
roof
of
any
dwelling.
She'll
be
of
architectural
profile,
asphalt,
type,
shingles
or
cedar
shakes
standard.
Three
tabs
shingles
would
be
prohibited.
F
Any
dwellings
shall
be
constructed
with
a
minimum
of
1,500
square
feet
of
finished
floor
area,
exterior
material
for
any
home,
constructed
Shelby,
masonry,
C,
brick
or
stone,
cedar,
masonite
or
cement
fiber
board.
Any
dwelling
or
accessory
structure
shall
be
constructed
in
compliance
with
all
applicable
building
codes,
with
issuance
of
all
necessary
permits
by
the
permit
and
Development
Center.
F
F
G
F
F
K
H
You
got
some
copies
here,
one
for
every
Tues,
Thank
You,
commissioner,
a
member
of
the
Commission.
My
name
is
Ryan
Francois
with
rally
cap
properties,
I
live
at
27:23,
High,
Street,
a
few
blocks
west
of
this
site
and
owner
of
rally,
cap
properties
so
rally.
Cap
properties
is
a
boutique
real
estate
development
firm.
We
were
founded
in
2015
and
since
then
have
restored
homes
and
revitalize
communities
in
the
near
downtown
area.
Our
specialty
and
our
focus
over
those
four
years
has
been
single-family
housing.
These
are
some
examples
of
our
portfolio.
H
A
lot
of
these
projects
are
focused
on
the
Woodland
Heights
north
of
Grand
and
Drake
neighborhoods
specializing
in
the
rehabilitation
of
late
Victorian
and
early
Craftsman
single-family
housing.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
immediate
area
and
have
focused
on
redevelopment
work
we're
turning
our
eyes
to
mixing
some
infill
development
as
well.
This
would
be
our
first
round
of
new
construction
project,
we've
since
closed
on
the
Lots
here
at
601,
24th
and
602
23rd
Street.
So
another
aerial
of
this
site
again
we're
on
the
north
side
of
High
Street
between
23rd
and
24th.
H
Just
a
block
north
of
Ingersoll
Avenue
and
a
close
up
here
as
well,
so
this
site,
it
is
two
parcels
three
Lots
of
record-
is
just
under
a
half
acre
of
ground.
So
eighteen
thousand
six
hundred.
Ninety
two
is
our
square
footage
for
the
site
and
again
we
are
proposing
a
medium
density,
residential
based
on
feedback
from
neighbors
over
the
last
couple
months.
I
have
some
other
street
views,
provided
here.
H
We
we
do
not
feel
that
it's
feasible
or
possible
to
allow
parking
from
that
side.
The
alley
stops
about
50
or
60
feet
north
of
this
parcel
and
with
the
topography
and
very
dense
vegetation,
there's
really
no
vehicular
access
from
there
there's
also
no
continuance
of
the
alley
down
to
High
Street,
which
is
why
we're
proposing
driveway
access
from
high.
So
the
current
proposal
is
for
five
units
on
the
western
portion,
the
deeper
double
lot
and
then
two
units
on
the
eastern
portion.
They
would
have
two
car
garages.
H
Here's
a
couple
renderings
of
the
project.
This
would
be
as
seen
from
24th
Street
coming
north.
You
see
the
Seoul
apartment
building
in
the
foreground,
there's
also
a
small
multi-family
residential
building,
that's
ahead
and
on
the
left.
The
brick
structure
there
I
believe,
is
four
units,
so
these
would
be
three
stories.
The
first
story
would
feature
a
tuck
under
tandem
garage
and
stoop
with
pedestrian
access.
H
Second
and
third
floor
would
be
living
space
for
the
residents.
Here's
another
rendering
looking
West
on
High
Street
again,
we
haven't
finalized
our
architectural
plans,
but
it
would
be
a
mix
of
citing
materials
with
a
gable
front
facade
to
ease
that
transition
into
the
more
traditional
single-family
housing
in
the
area
with
saw
so
some
modern
elements-
and
here
are
some
precedent-
projects
that
we've
looked
at
a
lot
of
these
would
be
maybe
a
little
boxy
er
and
more
modern
than
we'd.
H
Look
to
do
in
this
site,
but
similar
in
terms
of
the
specs,
the
units
that
we're
proposing
are
1,600
square
feet,
approximately
a
mix
of
two
and
three-bedroom
units
with
two
bathrooms
each
they,
the
intent
of
the
project,
is
for
single-family
for
sale,
housing
and
I
do
have
in
the
packet
just
for
reference,
this
site
plan
and
concept,
drawing
from
the
roars
proposal.
That
would
be
immediately
south
of
this
if
that
moved
forward
as
planned.
That
would
be
the
final
two
pages
so
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
B
B
Here
we
have
the
recommendation
from
the
staff
number
three
that
says.
Each
dwelling
unit
constructed
you'll
have
minimum
two-car
attached
garages,
which
you've
shown
accessed
from
a
driveway
from
either
the
existing
alley
or
from
23rd
to
24th
Street,
no
Drive
approach
from
high
street
shall
be
permitted.
How
do
you
respond
to
that.
H
Given
the
topography
of
this
site,
I
don't
think
it's
possible
to
have
access
from
the
north,
the
alleyway
it
is
accessed,
it's
a
gravel
alley.
That's
access
for
I,
think
three
or
four
residential
houses
further
to
the
north,
but
there's
a
pretty
sharp
drop-off
and
a
lot
of
very
dense
wooded
area.
The
alley
pretty
much
ends
like
I,
said:
maybe
50
feet
north
of
here,
so
I
don't
think
it's
feasible
to
have
vehicular
traffic,
especially
especially
for
a
project
of
this
density
from
that
access.
A
H
Well
that
one
of
the
the
things
that
we've
met
with
neighbors
over
the
last
couple
months,
there
is
an
issue
of
parking
in
this
area,
mainly
due
to
the
roars
development
and
the
density
that
that
is
brought.
But
one
of
the
concerns
that
neighborhoods
have
as
well
and
myself
as
a
neighbor
is
calming
the
traffic
through
this
site.
There
is
a
lot
of
vehicular
traffic
that
kind
of
speeds
through
here,
as
they
go
further
west
and
people
that
may
be
bypassed
the
Ingersoll
traffic,
so
I
feel
and
I
feel
that
neighbors
would
agree
as
well.
H
L
Mean
I'm
pretty
nervous
about
sort
of
overruling
the
parking
or
the
traffic
study
and
I
guess.
It
sounds
like
you're
saying
that
this
project
would
be
infeasible
with
the
parking
off
high.
That's
so
it's
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
clarify
that
that
you're,
saying
it's,
it's
not
doable
with
number
three
rather
than
just
would
be
more
difficult
bit
more
difficult.
I
H
J
F
J
J
And
Eric,
could
you
correct
me
so,
in
the
staff
report
under
item
number,
it's
section
to
Roman
numeral,
two
paragraph
three:
it
talks
about
traffic
and
access,
and
that's
where
our
city,
traffic
and
Transportation
Department
is
has
expressed
their
concerns
regarding
the
design
and
that
there
should
not
be
concerns
about
the
proposed
vehicular
access
and
multiple
driveways
along
High
Street.
So
again,
we're
relaying
the
concerns
of
our
traffic
and
Transportation
Department
and
their
review
of
the
plans,
and
so
just
looking
at
the
orientation
of
the
Lots.
J
If
they
can't
accommodate
that
that
request
to
have
those
driveways,
it
appears
those
Lots
were
originally
configured
to
have
units
facing
the
side
streets
based
on
the
lot
configuration.
So
that
would
be.
The
other
option
would
be
develop
it
as
a
zone
today
with
single
family
units
on
each
each
lot
facing
the
side
streets
thanks.
G
M
B
G
G
For
me,
that's
tough
I
I
really
appreciate
what
traffic
and
transportation
does,
but
for
me
it's
actually
more
about
just
all
the
repeated
curb
cuts
and
because
I
actually
don't
think
more
cars
slows
down
cars.
I
think
people
slow
down
cars
I'd
rather
figure
out
a
way
to
introduce
more
people
on
that
street,
not
more
cars
and
more
curb
cuts.
Sure.
H
G
Can
appreciate
and
respect
the
big
greed
going
up
the
back
and,
like
Mike
said
you
know
there
probably
were
I,
don't
know
the
history
of
the
site,
but
there
probably
were
homes
or
planned
for
homes
that
single-family
homes
that
went
right
and
left
I
actually
think
this
product
type
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Here.
G
That's
why
I
was
asking
questions
about
the
south
side
and
I
appreciate
you
putting
this
image
in
here,
because
I
actually
think
kind
of
flanking
three-story
buildings
or
whatever
makes
a
ton
of
sense
on
High,
Street
I
thoroughly
am
in
favor
of
that
and
what
you
call
the
middle
missing.
I
think
the
solution
lies
in
figure
out
how
to
get
the
cars
in
the
back.
H
H
Problem
I
appreciate
the
feedback
on
that
I
should
know
it
wasn't
our
our
goal
to
have
garages
all
along
hi.
At
the
beginning,
we
did
have
a
some
earlier
renderings
of
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
facade
with
Stoops
and
only
pedestrian
access
from
that.
The
solution
to
meet
on
site
requirements
essentially
was
to
use.
A
E
E
We
had
a
lot
of
problems
over
the
winter
with
snow
clearance
and
the
parking
that
caused
problems
because
snow
wasn't
getting
cleared
because
cars
weren't
getting
moved.
So
the
density
of
this
project
in
terms
of
the
traffic
and
parking
is
it
concerned
with
most
of
the
neighbors
that
are
here
and
most
of
the
neighbors
that
I've
talked
to
I,
really
like
what
Ryan
does
in
the
neighborhood
my
I.
E
Second,
all
of
the
feedback
on
that,
but
I
think
there
are
some
concerns
on
the
council
that
are
valid
and
the
traffic
and
parking
to
take
away
that
parking
from
High
Street
on
the
north
side
to
give
it
to
the
unit
only
to
cause
more
traffic
issues
coming
in
and
out
it
just
does
not
make
any
sense.
So
I
would
request
that
you
listen
to
traffic
and
parking.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
N
My
name
is
Lila
Dozier
and
I've
been
living
in
Woodland
Heights
for
40
years
and
I've
been
before
this
board
many
times.
It's
not
just
our
character
plan
that
this
doesn't
comply
with.
As
you
can
see
in
front
of
you,
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
2020
comprehensive
plan
or
the
2040
comprehensive
plan.
Its
2040
is
n5
and
our
160
now.
E
N
Was
when
I
moved
to
Woodland
Heights,
there
was
a
house
that
they
took
down
at
faced
23rd.
They
took
that
down.
It
was
a
derelict
property.
They
took
that
down.
I
think
it
was
to
the
year
2000
facing
24th
Street.
There
was
the
house
facing
24th
Street,
and
that
was
already
taken
down
and
always,
of
course,
the
organization
itself
and
what
I've
been
working
with
for
over
40
years
is
to
replace
infill
housing.
N
N
This,
of
course,
where
2301
soul
apartments
is,
was
the
trolley
station
that
went
in
in
1901
our
sales
brochure
for
wooden
Knight,
said
personal
importer,
lots
for
sale,
lots
of
trees.
You
can
have
a
garden
beautiful
area
and
it
worked
in
1907
and
it
still
works
a
lot
of
our
new
professionals
moving
into
the
area,
it's
close
to
their
work,
but
they
can
have
a
garden
and
a
dog,
and
maybe
they
loved
close
before
you
know
downtown,
but
now
they're
ready
for
a
house
to
raise
their
family.
N
Our
principle
in
wooden
Heights
has
always
been,
and
it's
worked
for
us
and
with
your
approval
and
Polk
counties
approval
in
the
City
of
Des
Moines
approval
was
to
infill
with
single-family
homes
when
I
moved
into
the
area,
and
we
applied
then
for
our
neighborhood
revitalization
in
91,
it
stated
then
single-family
homes
for
sale.
They
thought
we'd
never
be
able
to
sell
them.
They
sold
like
pancakes,
32,
Lots
32
in
this
small
area.
Thanks
to
urban
renewal,
32
vacant
lots,
we've
already
unfilled
over
40
in
films
and
such
a
character
manner.
N
The
people
who
come
to
visit
cannot
tell
that
they're
infill.
They
think
they're
original.
We
got
that
good,
a
job
when
Bill
Knapp
the
two
worked
with
Regency
to
put
in
the
first
32
homes.
He
said,
Lila
were
not
gonna,
be
making
any
money,
but
you
need
these.
That
was
40
years
after
they
were
taken
down.
M
N
Years
to
find
a
bill
Knapp
the
two
that
would
work
with
us
now
when
we
met
with
c
ZB,
we
got
a
glorious
notation
in
their
report,
which
I'm
sure
you
all
read.
How
did
we
do
that
single
family
homes
on
in
fiel
Lots?
They
came
to
us
at.
How
did
you
go
from
distressed
to
stable
single
family
homes
on
in
feel
Lots
families
live
on
high
street
families
with
kids
and
the
traffic
and
parking
is
bad.
N
The
people
have
told
me
on
High
Street
I
got
a
cell,
it's
not
safe
when
they
say
there's
parking
problems.
Let
me
tell
you
every
night,
almost
every
night,
60
cars
60
parked
clear
from
22nd
to
25th,
and
they
it
might
be
a
good
tavern,
Teddy
Maroons
as
I'm
doing
quite
a
business,
and
so
is
boss
Statehouse,
but
there's
no
parking.
So
we
are
there
parking
lot.
That
is
another
character.
We
are
better
than
them.
I
would
like
to
show
you
I,
don't
know
how
this
thing.
F
N
N
And
I
don't
know
you
can't
really
see
that's
the
making
mansion
on
High
Street
2707,
High
Street.
It
was
on
the
National
Register
before
we
even
got
our
historic
district
in
High.
Street
is
a
historic
district.
Helen
young
right
there
loose
in
this
manky
mansion
built
by
the
original
thread.
Louisville
I
would
put
a
lot
of
these
houses
on
high
street
if
they
were
in
Ingersoll,
Park
or
south
of
grand
or
Waterbury
Circle.
These
are
grand
houses,
single-family
homes,
but
we
were
distressed
in
91.
It
was
bad.
N
This
kind
of
density
we
have
throughout
our
neighborhood.
We
were
developed
before
there
was
a
zoning
code
and
yes
on
every
sink.
High
Street
is
not
a
corridor.
It's
not
even
a
collector
Street
it
to
eight
blocks
long,
but
at
every
corridor
coming
into
our
neighborhood,
we
have
four
seasons.
We
have
on
both
woodland
and
high
and
22nd
Street.
We
have
large
apartment
buildings
on
every
entrance
to
our
neighborhood.
N
We
are
already
dense,
but
we
have
a
wonderful
pocket
of
the
most
affordable,
beautiful
homes.
You
can
imagine
and
they're
worth
worth,
preserving
their
right
to
the
west
and
to
the
east
of
this,
and
let
me
tell
you:
I
am
NOT
an
architectural
genius,
but
I
fell
in
love
with
the
neighborhood
and
the
people.
N
B
N
Every
day,
I
get
a
card
in
the
mail.
We
want
your
house.
This
density
is,
we
cannot
imagine
60
cars
night
after
night.
It's
like
Drake
Relays,
wait
till
the
weekend.
It's
worse
they
park
at
the
bump-outs.
They
illegal
Park,
Bartlett
Park,
blocking
the
fire.
Hydrant
we've
got
semis
semi
delivery
trucks
going
up
and
down
High
Street
I
know
I'm,
not
mad
at
you.
You
approved
the
PUD.
The
reason
they
haven't
completed
the
PUD
is
there's
no
place
to
park.
A
N
This
make
something:
please
do
not
change
your
comprehensive
plan,
we've
relied
on
it.
It
gave
people
comfort
and
security
to
buy
a
risky
house
on
High
Street.
They
put
thousands
of
dollars
into
their
house
using
the
NFC
and
they've
got
investment
in
this
neighborhood.
Please
stick
to
your
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you.
O
Delia
Dara
and
I
live
at
the
corner
of
24th
and
High
Street.
This
will
be
catty
corner
for
me.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
some
points
that
have
already
been
made.
Lila
made
a
number
of
excellent
points.
We
have
parking
issues.
Currently
we
have
a
density
that
is
too
high.
Already
we
have
semis
coming
down
our
streets.
O
This
plan
is
not
in
keeping
with
our
neighborhoods
character
and,
although
Ryan's
done
a
great
job
with
his
other
work
within
our
neighborhood,
and
we're
grateful
for
that,
this
doesn't
really
seem
to
suit
our
neighborhood.
What
suits
our
neighborhood
would
be.
Three
single,
along
with
this
piece
of
property,
would
better
suit
that
also
so
I'm
asking
that
you
oppose
a
zoning
change
and
we
keep
it
as
it
currently
is.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Leanne
Stubbs
I
moved
to
Des
Moines
a
little
over
20
years
ago
from
Berkeley
and
I
was
looking
around
the
metro
and
where
I
ended
up
was
woodland.
Heights,
26/11,
high
and
I
am
delighted
to
be
part
of
woodland,
Heights
I
love
I.
If
I
could
like
underline
underscore
everything
Lila
said
about
the
neighborhood:
it's
just
it's
fabulous.
P
P
P
P
I
guess:
I'm
begging
you
to
to
keep
Woodland
Heights
a
neighborhood,
a
neighborhood
that
we
are
so
proud
of
a
neighborhood
that
we
are
all
continuing
to
invest
in
a
neighborhood
that
is
a
gem
in
our
city
and
and
I
died.
I
guess
I'm
asking
that
that
you
don't
revise
the
single-family
dwelling
designation.
Q
Evening
my
name
is
Gwen
key
and
I'm.
A
50-year
resident
of
Woodland
Heights
I
also
enjoy
the
neighborhood.
The
surroundings
and
I
also
want
to
know
my
husband
and
I.
We
moved
to
Des
Moines
to
help
my
parents,
my
husband
worked
for
HUD
and
we
were
trying
to
find
a
house,
but
my
parents
wanted
us
to
move
into
their
home.
He
was
seven
foot
tall
and
believe
it
or
not
to
find
a
bungalow
that
he
could
go
down.
The
basement
steps
was
exciting.
Q
I
have
to
mention
that
I
also
have
enjoyed
having
the
houses
in
our
neighborhood
restored.
I
happen
to
be
a
educator,
I
retired
from
King
Elementary
School,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
the
pictures
that
were
shown
were
distorted,
I,
I
would
agree.
I
would
like
to
ask
each
one
of
you
to
come
over
in
our
neighborhood.
Q
You've
heard
what
we've
had
to
say
about
the
traffic,
but
if
you
saw
across
the
street
from
Noah's
Ark,
when
much
of
most
of
you
know
about
Noah's
Ark,
you
would
see
an
apartment
houses,
an
apartment
house
dwelling
which
all
of
the
people
in
the
dwellings
are
not
parked.
Underneath
the
dwelling
they're
all
parked
on
the
street
and
the
reason
why
I
said
the
pictures
that
were
shown
were
distorted,
they
must
have
been
taken
when
the
apartment
dwelling
wasn't
finished,
because
you're
seeing
nothing
but
trees.
Q
Q
We've
appreciated
him
with
his
restoring
the
houses,
but
we
reject
this
project
that
he's
trying
to
do,
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
single-family
house
continue
the
ar160
and
since
1991
we've
had
single-family
houses
and
I'd
like
to
see
it
stay
the
same,
but
I
would
like
for
you
all
to
come,
see
what
we're
talking
about.
You
can
hear
it,
but
when
you
see
it
for
yourself,
it
makes
a
difference
come
down
there.
A
H
H
All
the
neighbors
who
have
come
out
and
spoken
tonight
definitely
appreciate
the
feedback
on
that
and
it's
been
an
interesting
process
getting
to
know.
People
better
through
this
proposal
definitely
appreciate.
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
myself,
as
I
mentioned,
and
all
of
the
things
that
they
spoke
about.
The
neighborhood
I
can't
speak
highly
enough
about
it.
I
work
in
the
industry
trying
to
sell
houses
in
this
neighborhood
and
others
nearby
to
modern
buyers
and
I.
H
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
is
there
is
a
huge
demand
for
people
who
would
like
to
live
here,
but
don't
have
the
skill
set
to
buy
an
older
house
and
make
the
investments
necessary
to
bring
that
up
to
modern
code
and
modern
livability.
We've
based
a
business
around
that
for
four
years
now
and
have
never
had
any
trouble
selling
the
homes
when
complete
so
that
I
think
there's
a
huge
demand
for
younger
buyers
who
do
live.
H
Downtown
would
like
to
be
in
a
neighborhood
area,
but
don't
have
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
it
can
take
to
buy
an
old
home
and
fix
it
up.
That's
why
I
feel
like
this
is
a
marketable
option
and
something
that's
not
that
far
out
of
line
with.
What's
currently
in
the
neighborhood,
in
terms
of
the
density,
I
believe
on
this
site,
with
three
single
family
lots
under
our
160,
we
could
do
duplexes
on
each
I
believe
for
six
units,
we're
proposing
one
additional
unit
to
make
our
pro
forma
work.
H
And
if
you
look
at
a
lot
of
the
neighborhood
nodes,
I
don't
have
my
full
slides
up
here,
but
the
neighborhood
nodes
that
are
on
23rd
and
24th
and
woodland,
for
example,
just
northwest
of
here
in
a
very
similar
sized
area,
there
are
seven
existing
homes
that
were
purpose-built
from
the
day.
These
were
platted,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
at
this
point.
I
recognize
and
understand
the
concerns
over
traffic
and
parking
with
the
roars
development.
H
D
J
Know
if
we
have
that
number,
their
preference
was
that
they
would
come
from
the
north
and
I
know.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
concerns
and
expressed
our
traffic
department
about
parking
and
on
street
traffic
in
the
area.
They've
been
monitoring
it
quite
a
bit
and
I
know:
we've
done
some
enhanced
enforcement
on
the
parking
violations
that
have
been
occurring
along
the
bump
outs
that
were
added
by
roars.
J
So
again,
at
this
point,
I
don't
know
that
our
traffic
department
offered
a
a
reasonable
number
or
an
acceptable
number.
The
Lots
historically
were
oriented
towards
the
side
streets,
so
I
think
that
would
be
their
preference
for
driveway
access
to
either
come
off
those
side,
streets
or
the
or
the
alley
and
behind
the
properties.
So
I
can't
give
you
any
other
information
tonight
on
what
they
would
accept
and.
D
I'm
not
asking
for
you
to
commit
I'm,
just
suggesting
that
if
we
look
west
and
on
the
south
side
of
the
street,
there
are
a
whole
lot
of
driveways
poking
into
High
Street.
A
lot
and
I
wondered
why
this
had
to
be
an
exception.
In
that
circumstance,
I
hear
the
traffic
and
transportation
thing,
but
I
thought,
as
usual,
I'm
looking
for
some
kind
of
compromise
here,
because
I
think
everybody
would
like
to
see
something
built.
D
The
question
is
what
the
compromise
is
and
if
you
built
single-family
homes,
how
many
you
could
build
in
the
same
area
following
the
infill
suggestion
and
which
of
those
would
be
allowed
to
have
a
drive
on
High
Street.
If,
for
example,
there
were
two
with
drives
on
23rd
and
24th
Street,
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
looking
for
compromise
I.
J
Think
the
difference
on
the
west
I
agree.
There
are
driveways
but
they're,
mainly
single
colored,
driveways
and
they're,
going
to
detach
garages
in
the
rear
yards,
because
the
Lots
are
deeper
and
so
from
a
character.
Standpoint.
I
think,
as
what
Greg
was
talking
about
the
double
car
on
the
very
front
of
the
house
is,
is
a
character
question
and
then
it's
just
the
question
of
historically
how
the
access
on
the
rest
of
the
block
is
so.
F
F
Tnt,
which
is
traffic
and
transportation,
has
received
many
concerns
from
this
neighborhood
about
vehicle
speeds
on
aunt
art
on
street
parking
along
High
Street.
It
is
my
opinion
that
the
developer
should
make
every
effort
to
orient
the
garage
access
on
the
north
side
of
the
row.
Homes
1,
the
driveway
number
design
will
need
to
meet
current
city
code
requirements,
which
is
referencing
a
spacing
on
driveways
for
commercial
sites.
F
Single-Family
and
2
family
detached
are
not
treated
the
same
way
with
driveway
access
on
the
same
property,
but
commercial
sites
which
are
multi-family
3
and
more
would
have
limitations
on
the
spacing
of
the
driveway.
So
I
think
that's
what
he's
referencing
number
2.
The
neighborhood
already
has
concerns
about,
saw
related
on
street
parking,
encroaching
into
the
lower
density
areas.
We're
moving
on
street
parking
along
Northside
of
High
Street
may
exasperate,
these
existing
concerns
and
then
number
3.
F
If
the
driveways
are
allowed
on
on
street
and
on
street
parking
is
removed,
the
developer
will
likely
be
asked
to
bring
forward
a
design
that
includes
traffic
calming
elements
that
slow
high
street
traffic
likely
shifting
the
curb
8
inches
to
10
inches
to
the
south,
along
with
moving
storm
sewer
intakes.
So
there
might
be
some
expense
to
getting
something
that
would
traffic
could
support
or.
B
B
True
to
me,
with
for
several
people
that
have
talked
about
the
investments
that
they
have
made
in
the
neighborhood
and
because
of
the
security
and
insurance,
they
felt
because
the
city
had
taken
a
stand
in
terms
of
what
the
neighborhood
should
should
look
like,
and
that
I
think
is
is
an
important
quality
to
remember
the
the
parking
is
another
is
another
matter
as
well.
The
design
of
the
building
and
it's
set
back
are
not
set
back
from
this
from
this
street
is
yet
another
issue.
B
So,
although
there,
the
plan
that
has
come
before
us
is
well
intended,
I
think
it
has
so
many
different
faults
that
we
would
be
remiss
if
we
actually
went
forward
and
approved
this.
So
I
would
move
that
the
that
the
Commission
accept
part
a
of
the
staff
recommendation
finding
the
plan
as
presented,
not
in
conformance
with
the
plan
DSM
but
then
to
find
Part.
B
know
that
the
Commission
recommend
that
the
zoning
be
changed,
but
it
but
remain
as
it
is
today.
R
You're
correct,
but
at
the
same
time,
in
terms
of
there's
still
due
process
owed
to
the
applicant
for
the
rezoning,
and
so
we
will
still
have
to
have
counsel
go
through
the
process
of
considering
the
rezoning,
and
so
there
still
needs
to
be
a
vote
by
this
commission
on
that
and
a
recommendation
to
the
council
on
item
C
as
well.
Well,.
A
G
F
F
The
site
plan
would
be
separate
review
if
it's
under
the
current
ordinance.
In
that
timeframe,
it
would
come
in
front
of
the
Commission
for
approval
as
a
multifamily
design,
design.
Guideline
review
of
the
site
plan.
It's
conceivable
under
our
projected
ordinance,
if
it
came
through
under
that
that
it
would
be,
could
be
administrative.
J
A
A
F
F
A
Right
but
I
guess
my
questions,
the
points
that
Greg
is
raising
about
the
current
zoning.
Yes,
yes,
this
motion
is
successful
for
denying
it
and
then
I
understand
what
you're
saying
that
it
goes
to
the
council
would
take
a
supermajority
to
overrule
it.
But
what
about
the
points
that
have
been
raised
about
the
existing
zoning
at
that
time?.
F
F
F
J
A
After
I
said,
I
could
see
why
you
thought
that,
or
it's
sort
of
any
questions
about
the
motion
just
to
review.
The
motion
is
to
approve
Part
A,
which
is
that
the
request
for
rezoning
to
r3
is
not,
in
conformance
with
the
plan
des
moines,
but
for
Part
B
to
deny
the
land
use
designation
from
resort
to
revise,
to
deny
revising
it
from
low
density
to
medium
density
and
then
also
the
same
for
Part
C
to
deny
approval
rezoning
from
r3
with
the
following
with
the
conditions
that
the
staff
has
listed.
M
A
R
A
So
the
request
has
been
from
commission
members
to
separate
out
the
motions
part
ABC
I'm,
assuming
two
votes
individually
on
these.
The
person
who
has
made
the
motion
would
prefer
to
keep
them
intact.
However,
considering
the
fact
that
that
may
not
change
the
outcome,
it
might
be
okay
to
separate
it
out,
I
mean
that
things
that
come
up
I
think
an
emotion,
Oh.
B
J
That
we're
really
complicating
the
situation
by
not
voting
on
these
individually.
If,
if
I
could
urge
you
to
vote
individually,
the
motion
is
made
for
approval
of
a
denial
of
B
denial
of
C
take
a
vote
on
each
of
those
individually.
If
you
could,
that
would
make
it
much
easier
to
present
this
to
the
City
Council,
but
the
I.
A
Think
the
point
of
having
it
intact
within,
if
there's
a
point
that
you
agree
with
in
the
current
motion,
maybe
not
vote
for
the
motion,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
vote
individually
and
so
part
a
all
those
in
favor
of
Part
A.
The
current
motion
is
to
agree
with
the
staff
recommendation
that
the
distri,
not
in
conformance
with
flan
des
moines,
all
those
in
favor
of
that.
B
A
M
A
M
J
A
A
J
A
B
R
L
G
B
A
A
C
C
G
G
G
Think
that's
commonly
I
live
in
a
neighbor,
I
wouldn't
be
relevant
and
they
would
like
this
so
I
think
that's
where
some
latitude
could
be
just
to
get
driveways
off
the
street
and
other
things
that
they
got
to
overcome
and
solve
that.
Maybe
I
think
the
market
may
dictate
wanting
two
car
garages,
but
that's
a
different
sales
thing.
A
L
G
L
G
D
F
M
R
D
F
R
F
C
A
A
F
L
J
B
C
F
B
F
B
A
C
J
F
Item
number
seven,
madam
chair
Iowa,
fireworks
company
LLC,
this
request
is
for
a
property.
You
might
be
a
little
familiar
with
some
recent
past.
This
is
the
property
on
East
Army,
Post,
Road,
next,
there's
storage
to
the
west
for
many
years.
This
was
a
nightclub
of
some
fashion,
the
most
recent
rezoning
that
was
a
crude
involved,
a
fence
contractor
that
wanted
to
occupy
the
building.
F
So
it
was
given
a
very
limited
m1
designation
that
allowed
c2
uses
and
even
some
of
those
were
prohibited,
but
also
the
allowance
for
a
fence
contractor
to
occupy
the
space
that
never
came
to
fruition.
So
it
is
sat
there.
The
building
is
resold.
The
current
owner
has
a
buyer,
who
is
the
applicant
looking
at
occupying
it
with
a
fireworks
retail
which
is
only
allowed
in
our
m1
or
m2
districts,
and
then
they
would
also
be
asking
for
warehouse
during
periods
when
it's
not
retail.
C
F
F
F
The
thing
to
understand
here
is
because
it's
a
asking
for
a
m1
or
m2
zoning
only
to
allow
the
fireworks
it
requires
a
plan
DSM
amendment
to
industrial
designation,
whereas
right
now
it's
Business,
Park
designation,
Business
Park
would
be
more
consistent
with
a
plan.
Business
Park
under
a
current
ordinance,
I
believe
in
our
future
ordinance.
The
proposed
zoning
districts
analogous
to
that
future
land
use
designation,
are
considered
he
X
districts
and
have
a
higher
standard
in
terms
of
the
building
standards
for
the
building
types
in
those
districts.
F
It
would
translate
into
the
AIA
one
if
they
were
approved
under
the
future.
Zoning
ordinance
staff
is
concerned
about
the
plan
dsm
amendment
going
to
an
industrial
designation.
So
from
that
standpoint
alone,
we're
not
in
favor
of
the
request
to
amend
the
future
Land
Use
and
thus
were
recommending
denial
of
the
zoning
request.
F
There
is
in
the
staff
report,
it
says:
should
the
rezoning
be
denied
the
applicant
would
have
up
to
one
year
to
see,
can
use
variance
from
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment
to
allow
use
of
the
property
for
the
specific
commercial
purpose
that
they're
asking
for
and
then
it
indicates
it
would
not
require
an
amendment
to
the
plan
DSM.
So.
J
F
I,
don't
have
any
further
points
to
really
make
other
than
it's
really
based
on
the
modification
in
this
area.
I
should
note
I,
while
I
didn't
get
a
written
communication
from
Eastern
Lake
neighborhood
area
I
did
take
a
phone
conversation
with
Jim
Ballard
the
chair,
and
he
has
indicated
they
attended
the
neighborhood
meeting
and
at
this
point,
they're
indifferent.
His
only
concern
that
he
raised
was
their
ability
to
meet
the
fire
codes
and
building
codes,
given
its
building's
proximity
to
joining
property.
I
C
I
I
On
my
on
me
reviewing
the
planning
zoning
definition.
So
my
understanding,
the
new
zoning
to
take
effect,
push
the
property
in
the
e.x
district.
That
you
had
mentioned
the
definition
provided
by
the
City
of
Des
Moines
for
the
X
district
is
e^x,
is
intended
for
locations
and
quarters
with
a
mix
of
light
industrial
and
heavier
commercial
uses.
Again,
the
property
is
currently
m1
and
I
certainly
understand
I
respect
the
the
intent
of
the
city
that
industrial
use
for
this
part
of
town
is
is
a
concern
for
the
city.
I
However,
that
is
why
I
have
requested
a
limited
usage,
specifically
two
fireworks,
which
truly
is
not
an
industrial
business
in
nature,
but
rather
a
commercial
one,
Iowa
fireworks
company.
We
are
local
fireworks
retailer
again.
The
true
nature
of
the
business
is
retail.
There
would
not
be
industrial
activity
again,
because
the
city
code
limits
the
activity
for
rehearsal
or
property
in
the
section
134
1281,
you
can
only
have
a
single
use
if
your
property
for
fireworks
correct
mr.
plenty,
so.
I
So
that
so
there
would
there,
because
fireworks
would
will
only
be
the
allowed
usage
that
wouldn't
allow
any
other
industrial
activity
on
the
property
so
approve
on
approval
of
this
very
limited
use
for
the
property.
We
would
work
with
city
staff
to
bring
the
storage
building.
That's
currently
on
the
property
and
site
up
to
code
compliance.
We
have
engaged
GTG
architects
to
do
the
the
code
review
address
any
specific
items
with
with
the
building
and
as
as
rough
as
the
appearance
looks,
it
does
its.
I
It
is
structurally
sound,
but
there's
a
number
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
the
building,
to
bring
up
to
today's
standards,
not
limited
to
addressing
the
septic
system
which
we're
fully
aware
of
it
needs
to
be
sprinkler
eyes
fully
aware
of
so
I
think
that
we've
done
some
due
diligence
to
understand
what
it
is
that
we'd
be
undertaking
to
make
use
of
the
the
property
down
to
having
expertise
related
to
the
to
the
fire
requirements.
Additional
firewalls,
given
the
proximity
to
storage
Mart
with
their
storage
shed,
and
it's
next
to
that.
So.
I
Are
a
consumer
retail
fireworks
business?
So
we
don't
have
there's
there's
two
levels
of
fireworks:
one
is
1.3
G,
which
is
the
ATF
regulated
fireworks
that
are
they're
put
on
for
a
community
show.
For
example,
you
have
to
have
an
ATF
license
for
that.
We
dealing
consumer
grade
fireworks,
some
of
which
the
City
of
Des
Moines
does
not
allow
some
of
which
the
the
small
item
City
of
Des
Moines,
does
allow
the
wee
communities
across.
I
I
I
K
I
I
Is
they
want
to
make
sure
that
the
improve
the
property,
because
I
think
it's
a
eyesore
for
the
neighborhood
and
I
think
that
this,
while
it
is
I
understand
that,
with
the
industrial
aspect
to
how
the
city's
defined,
where
you
can
retail
fireworks
I
understand
that
that
is
not
I,
think
the
limited
usage
is
appropriate
that
that
I
wouldn't
expect
unlimited
industrial
designation
for
this
property.
I
agree
with
you
agree
with
you
on
that,
so
I'm
seeking
very
limited
for
fireworks.
Retail
used
for
the
property,
so,
okay.
M
J
F
F
F
A
J
J
Scheduled
to
have
public
hearing
and
first
reading,
the
meeting
starts
at
4:30.
The
public
hearing
starts
at
5:00,
so
we're
expecting
a
fairly
good
turnout
and
comment
that
meeting
and
we
are
asking
the
council.
The
recommendation
from
staff
is
to
approve
first
consideration
ordinance.
There
have
been
a
number
of
revisions
that
are
proposed
to
the
ordinance
and
those
are
available
on
the
city's
website.
If
you
go
to
the
City
Council
web
page,
the
council
agendas
there
and
there's
documents
there
or
you
can
go
to
the
plan.
Psm.