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Des Moines City Council meeting via teleconference on Monday, August 3, 2020.
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Well,
if
you're
pulling
an
item
like,
I
know
that
we've
got
people
that
are
speaking
on
some
of
the
ordinance
issues,
they
should
be
allowed
there.
Five
minutes,
just
like
the
speaker
that
has
signed
up
to
speak
on
on
different
issues.
I
mean
these:
are
they
they
couldn't
sign
up
for
it,
there's
no
opportunity
the
mayor
will
ask
them.
Would
anybody
like
to
speak
and
they
should
be
able
to
give
be
given
their
five
minutes?
Anybody
after
that
is
the
two
minutes.
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Let's
move
into
the
our
city
council
meeting
prior
to
the
meeting,
I'd
just
like
to
note-
and
I
know,
there's
a
couple
of
people
that
probably
would
have
a
couple
things
to
say,
but
over
the
weekend
one
of
our
longtime
city,
council
members,
tom
belassus,
passed
away
and
he
was
a
longtime
member
of
the
city
council
and
I
will
tell
you
from
my
perspective
up
in
ward
one.
He
was
the
absolute
guy
for
public
safety.
D
He
he
moved
it
forward
in
every
way
he
wanted
the
sidewalks
right.
He
wanted
the
stop
signs
right.
He
wanted
the
children
safe
getting
to
and
from
school,
and
I've
got
to
tell
you.
We
put
a
lot
of
stop
signs
up
as
a
request
to
tom
velas's,
and
but
I
gotta
tell
you
he
his
heart
was
there
and
he
was.
He
was
a
great
guy
and
he
served
on
the
city
council.
Was
there
from.
G
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H
Thank
you
mayor.
It's
a
it's
a
high
honor
of
mine
because
I
was
lucky
to
have
a
special
relationship
with
tom.
He
called
on
me
to
get
involved
in
public
service,
like
he
did
so
many
people
around
him,
and
that
was
a
real
blessing
for
me
to
have
so
many
good
things
happen
in
my
life
because
of
of
what
he
enabled
and
started
for
me.
H
I
served
with
him
for
about
10
years,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
a
lot
of
citizens
may
not
know
about
tom
that
I
I
wanted
to
just
quickly
highlight.
I
know
you
have
a
busy
night,
but
he
was
one
of
the
most
significant
architects
of
our
neighborhood
association
system
now
and
he
took
such
pride
in
attending
meetings.
H
You
know
some
politics,
you
know
kind
of
politicians,
talk
about
this
being
constituent
services,
a
little
side
aspect
of
their
job,
but
for
tom,
that's
all
he
did
he
loved
leading
leaving
meetings
with
lis
and
he
viewed
his
job
as
getting
stuff
done
for
the
people
who
elected
him,
and
he
did
a
great
job
of
that.
He
loved
the
neighborhood
associations.
He
he
wanted
that
everybody
in
his
ward
lived
in
a
neighborhood
association
and
up
until
his
last
year
he
was
helping
to
create
neighborhood
associations,
and
tom
was
a
national
leader
too.
H
He
never
stopped
fighting
for
his
poor
neighborhoods
for
the
non-profit,
on
a
shoestring
budget
and
over
time
he
changed
a
lot
too.
He
was
the
deciding
vote
to
give
landmark
discrimination,
protection
based
on
sexual
orientation,
probably
something
that
early
in
his
life.
He
thought
he'd
never
do,
but
he
was
not
afraid
to
to
change
and
he
continued
to
fight
for
civil
and
human
rights.
H
Tom
was
a
person
on
top
of
a
councilman
and,
of
course,
his
relationship
with
sophie
is
is
historic.
He
was
a
a
gentleman
to
her
the
kind
of
husband
that
we
all
hope
others
describe
us
as
he
was
her
strength
when
her
lupus
required
her
to
lean
on
others
and,
most
importantly,
they
laughed
together,
and
it
was
clear
that
everybody
wanted
to
be
around
them.
H
Tom
was
very
proud
of
his
heritage.
Most
people
know
he
was
greek.
He
invited
the
whole
dang
city
to
the
greek
food
festival
every
year
and
gave
hundreds
of
tickets
away
just
so
we
could
experience
a
little
of
the
hospitality
and
the
delicious
culture
and
he
was
proud
to
be
a
pharmacist.
He
talked
a
lot
about
it
at
the
city
council.
H
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H
I
did
smile
when
I
read
the
article
this
week
into
the
paper.
He
deserved
a
nice
tribute.
It
closes
with
a
quote
of
tom's
that
if
he
was
here,
he'd
probably
stand
by,
he
said
he
was
dumb
but
honest
tom
I'd.
I
don't
think
you
were
dumb
after
working
hand
in
hand
with
him.
For
decades
he
wasn't
dumb.
He
was
human.
He
was
so
much
human
wrapped
up
in
this
small
body,
energy,
passion,
kindness,
hospitality
and
yes,
sometimes
a
mistake,
but
that's
not
dumb.
That's
just
human
tom
velasquez
was
honest.
H
D
I
You're,
absolutely
right,
I
wouldn't
be
in
this
position
now,
if
it
weren't
for
tom
and
sophie
they
looked
at
the
service
that
actually
chris
put
me
on
in
the
board
of
adjustment
and
said
that
I
could
take
the
next
step
and
they
would
support
me,
and
that
meant
an
awful
awful
lot
to
me.
We'd
spend
our
saturday
afternoons
like
chris,
said
down
to
cooney's.
We
would
discuss
everything
under
the
sun
and
he
was
probably
one
of
the
most
humorous
guys.
I've
ever
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
he'd.
I
Also
I'd
also
have
to
be
his
pc,
repairman
I'd
have
to
go
over
there
and
he
got
something
all
bundled
up
and
I'd
have
to
go
over
there
and
straighten
it
out.
I
did
see
tom
three
weeks
ago.
That's
the
last
time.
I
saw
him
and
you
know
other
than
a
walker.
You
know
the
guy
had
a
heart
of
gold
and
I'll
leave
you
with
one
last
comment.
This
was
always
the
funniest
thing.
I
I
always
said
you
know
tom,
and
I
were
talking
one
time
and
I
mentioned
something
about
getting
ready
for
my
wedding
anniversary.
Time
goes,
oh
when's
that
coming
up-
and
I
said,
may
he
goes
well.
That's
interesting.
So
is
mine.
It
says
what
day
I
said,
the
first
he
goes
well,
that's
interesting!
So
is
mine.
What
year
1976
bingo
we
were
both
married
on
the
same
day
back
in
1976
and
ever
since
that
discussion,
tom
and
I
and
ann
and
sophie
would
spend
our
our
dinners
at
for
our
anniversaries.
I
Usually
christopher
is
one
of
his
favorites
where
chef's
kitchen
was
around,
but
they
were
just
magnificent
people.
I'm
there's
a
hole
in
my
life.
Now
that
tom's
gone
I'll
I'll,
never
forget
all
the
things
he's
done
for
me
and
for
our
community,
and
I
just
I
feel
very
fortunate
to
call
him
a
friend
thank
you
mayor
and
you.
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Quite
frankly,
in
some
specific
circumstances,
we
said
that
anytime,
somebody's
outside
of
the
residence,
the
personal
dwelling
and
unable
to
stay
at
least
six
feet.
Apart
from
other
people,
you
ought
to
have
a
covering
on
when
you're
inside
any
public
space,
whether
that
be
a
retail
store
or
a
restaurant
or
a
bar
or
whatever.
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We
want
everybody
to
understand
that
and
the
risks
are
continuing
and
it
is
clear
that
we
have
to
be
more
diligent
and
disciplined
than
ever
to
compat
this
most
challenging
medical
emergency
of
our
lifetime.
So
the
scientific
evidence
has
been
very
clear
that
we
need
to
wear
a
mask.
It's
the
best
way
to
hopefully
protect
ourselves,
try
to
keep
some
of
the
businesses
open
as
many
as
possible,
but
we
need
to
reduce
the
spread
and
save
lives
and
that's
the
best
solution
of
the
problem.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
before
we
start
our
regular
council
meeting,
I
think
it's
very
important
and
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
to
push
that
message
out.
Yet
once
again,
let's
go
ahead
and
start
the
city
council
meeting,
and
I
would
ask
that
we
call
it
to
order
and
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
take
roll.
Please.
D
All
right,
the
agenda
has
been
approved.
I
will
also,
although
they're
in
the
rules.
I
want
everybody
to
know
that
you
know
it's
a
little
different
than
being
in
city
hall,
but
we're
trying
to
do
our
best
to
accommodate
people
that
have
questions
or
ideas
on
agenda
items,
and
we
will
try
to
recognize
you
to
to
speak
on
those.
D
We
will
allow
those
that
have
registered
specifically
if
they
put
an
item
on
they
get
five
minutes
and
if
council,
if
I
believe
that
generally
the
people
that
would
like
to
make
a
comment,
we
added
it
one
minute
in
the
past,
but
I
have
heard
in
in
our
conversation
that
maybe
we
ought
to
push
that
to
two
to
those
that
will,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
sort
of
an
affirmative
on
that
is
two
minutes.
Anybody
object
to
that.
K
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
treating
folks
who
come
to
speak
on
all
agenda
items
the
same.
So
if
we're
going
to
have
a
a
restrictive
role
like
that
that
it
being
applied
equally
across
the
board-
and
I
would
also
be
okay
with
a
longer
time.
But
I
understand
that
we
need
to
keep
things
moving.
D
And
we'll
also
say
that
these
items
generally
aren't
debate,
we
want
input
to
put
it
into
the
record
and
often
referred
on
to
city
staff,
to
further
look
it
out
or
or
flesh
it
out.
So
speakers
will
be
allowed
on
an
item
to
speak
once
and
that
that's
how
we'll
handle
it
and
that's
how
generally
we
handle
it
when
we're
in
city
council
chambers
as
well.
D
A
D
For
me,
please
so
for
those
of
you
item
4bb
has
been
withdrawn
by
the
applicant
item.
16
is
deleted.
Item
16
was
relocated
on
the
agenda
is
now
22i
per
request.
22I
was
a
reloaded
relocated.
16.
28
was
added.
It's
directing
the
advertisement
for
the
sale
of
of
95
million
910
000
general
obligation
bond
series.
D
2020
d
item
28
I
was
added-
is
directly
the
advertisement
of
sale
of
5
million
and
90
000
taxable
geo
bond
series,
2020
e
and
28.
I
I
was
added
it's
directing
the
advertisement
for
the
sale
of
22
million
485
000
worth
of
stormwater
utility
revenue,
bonds
against
series,
2020f
regular
agenda
items
are
35
to
67
and
36
was
withdrawn.
K
G
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L
M
A
E
D
K
K
K
K
I
wanted
to
know
whether
the
ammunition
being
purchased
only
included
the
quantities
necessary
for
training
or,
if
we
purchase
range
ammunition
for
officers
to
use
more
generally
with
the
funding
and
if
we
purchase
additional
ammunition
beyond
just
for
training.
What's
the
criteria
for
using
it,
the
the
broader
point
being,
if
we're
going
to
spend
dollars
above
and
beyond
what
is
necessary
for
certification,
which
I
think
is
important
right.
K
We
want
to
make
sure
our
officers
are
trained
and
certified,
but
then,
above
and
beyond
that
is
essentially
providing
a
signal
in
terms
of
what
what
type
of
training
we
want
to
emphasize
more
and
there
I've
got
questions
about
that.
So
that's
why
I
was
hoping
to
get
these
answered
and
understand
this
a
little
better.
E
D
D
So
we
have
substantially
reduced
these
numbers
as
time
has
gone
along,
because
certainly
we
don't
want
money
wasted
or
overspent
in
in
areas.
It
is
critical
for
the
training
and-
and
we
certainly
want
people
who
are
in
charge
of
essential
weapons
to
be
well
trained
and
managed,
and
I
think
that
our
chief
has
done
a
pretty
good
job
in
this
area,
at
least
making
sure
that
they're
using
the
money
wisely
and
has
moved
forward
and
has
really
cut
that
budget
dramatically.
D
K
M
N
N
The
second
question
is:
what
is
the
quantity
of
ammunition
being
purchased
and
the
response
is
396
000
rounds
to
include
various
brands
and
cal
calibers
for
use
in
both
handguns
and
rifles,
and
the
third
question
was:
does
the
ammunition
being
purchased
only
include
the
quantities
necessary
for
training,
or
do
we
purchase
range
munitions
for
officers
to
use
more
generally
with
this
funding,
and
if
we
purchase
additional
ammunition
beyond
training?
What
is
their
criteria
for
using
it?
N
G
J
J
Does
anybody
know
on
which
you
might
not
know,
because
I
know
at
one
point
it
took
over
a
year
to
get
ammunition,
so
sometimes
quantities
are
determined
because
of
the
how
long
it
takes
to
get
the
ammunition,
but
I
think
those
are
valid
questions
they
ask
what
what
are
we
using
them
for?
Can
we
use
dollars?
Otherwise,
but
when
I
was
purchasing
the
county,
it
was
like
they
were
a
year
out
before
even
got
delivery,
so
that
might
be
some
of
the
context
of
the
quantity.
A
D
D
A
E
O
Yep,
okay,
as
far
as
a
delay
in
the
in
the
order
it
varies
from
year
to
year.
The
reason
this
order
comes
in
at
this
time
is
we're
into
new
budget
year
and
the
training
items
ammunition
included
that
we'll
need
throughout
the
year.
We
make
sure
we
take
care
of
those
things
as
first
order
of
business.
Councilman
rebozen
is
right.
There
was
there
were
years
when
we
were
12
to
18
months
out
on
receiving
those
purchases.
O
J
C
C
A
D
J
A
D
J
A
G
G
G
A
G
D
Q
Q
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
ending
the
meeting
and
taking
care
of
that,
because
this
is
a
very
important
issue
to
a
lot
of
people.
So
I
wanted
to
speak
on
this
because
I
saw
that
you
guys
are
spending
almost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
ammunition
for
training
and
duty
purposes.
So
a
lot
of
the
conversation
that
you
guys
have
been
having
is
just
about
training
and
it's
all
for
training,
but
that's
not
the
case.
It
lists
on
the
agenda,
training
and
duty
purposes
as
well
as
in
the
additional
document.
Q
It
says
the
ammunition
is
37
000
for
personnel
and
training
and
61
000
for
tactical,
so
the
majority
of
this
is
for
tactical,
which
would
be
the
duty
version
of
that
training.
From
what
I
understand
just
from
reading
that
I
also
can.
I
would
like
to
repeat
amanda
bob's
question,
which
I
don't
think
I
got
answered,
how
much
ammo
are
we
purchasing
what
is
like
the
dollar
per
ammo
that
we're
doing
which
we
don't
really
even
know
how
much
this
is.
Q
Q
The
only
purpose,
besides
that
for
a
bullet,
is
to
kill
somebody,
and
if
we
are
spending
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
literally
weapons
of
murder,
I
think
we
should
be
a
little
bit
more
like
take
a
little
bit
more
care
in
how
much
we're
purchasing
and
why
we're
purchasing
that
it
is
said
in
the
document
that
this
ammunition
is
being
purchased,
for.
I
believe
it
was
like
the
stars
program
and
that
that
is
for
like
responding
to
active,
shooters
and
bomb
threats.
Things
like
that.
Q
I
don't
know
if
I'm
just
missing
things,
but
I
really
don't
think
that
this
is
such
a
huge
threat
that
we
need
to
be
spending
this
much
money
on
it.
I
would
also
like
to
clarify
that
in
2019,
dmpd
cleared,
like
only
17
of
burglary
cases,
42
percent
of
arsons,
27
of
thefts,
32
of
motor
vehicle
accidents,
33
of
robberies,
and
while
they
did
do
clear,
75
percent
of
aggravated
assaults,
that's
still
25
that
they're
not
clearing.
Q
R
It
says
I'm
muted.
Now,
oh
am
I
audible,
yeah
great
hi.
My
name
is
andrew
tajio.
I
live
in
beaverdale
yeah.
I'd
like
to
second
some
of
those
concerns.
I
am
reassured
to
hear
that
I
don't
know
if
it
was
the
mayor
or
a
council
member
mandelbaum.
Somebody
brought
up
that
you
know.
In
the
past
we
spent
200
or
250
thought
you
know
much
more
in
the
past
and
this
time
it's
a
much
smaller
amount.
So
that's
great
we're.
R
But
I
think
it
would
be
useful
in
the
spirit
of
data,
transparency
and
efficiency
and
all
that
good
stuff
to
see
how
much
of
the
ammunition
is
used
for
training
purposes
and
how
much
was
used
on
the
job
during
active
service
during
active
duty.
I
think
that
would
help
us
find
the
happy
spot
between
being
equipped
enough
to
have
munitions
and
spending
more
than
we
need
thanks.
A
G
D
S
Guys
hear
me
yes,
okay
thanks.
I
would
also
like
to
just
follow
up
on
what
the
previous
speakers
have
said.
As
far
as
wanting
to
better
understand
what
the
details
of
this
purchase
mean,
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
know
what
the
number
is
on
that
as
far
as
what
is
being
purchased
for
actual
training,
what
is
being
purchased
for
active
duty?
I
think
it's
also
concerning
that
the
funding
for
the
training
itself
hasn't
been
approved.
I
think
that's
what
was
mentioned
earlier.
S
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
funds
for
the
ammunition
for
the
training
is
being
approved,
so
I
think,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
disconnect
there
and
there
definitely
should
be
looked
at
what
are
they
being
trained
on
to
use
this
ammunition
and
whether
there
could
be
other
means
or
ways
for
them
to
handle
those
kinds
of
situation
outside
of
having
to
get
to
the
place
where
we're
using
ammunition?
Thank.
G
F
F
F
You
know
you
said
that
this
is
for
training,
but
when
I
read
it,
it
also
said
that
this
was
going
to
be
used
to
respond
to
civil
disobedience.
To
me,
that
sounds
pretty
broad
and
that
sounds
like
yeah,
giving
the
mpd
a
lot
of
money
to
just
crack
down
on
folks
with
weapons.
You
know
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money.
F
I
think
that
that
money,
if
y'all,
want
to
give
it
to
them,
should
just
be
cut
from
another
part
of
the
mpd's
budget
and
just
given
that
way,
giving
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
them,
especially
during
the
time
when
we're
in
a
global
pandemic,
especially
during
the
time
we
have
folks
who
are
more
vulnerable
to
being
evicted
and
more
housing
insecure
than
ever
before.
You
know
100
000
that
could
pay
for
over
130
families
rent
for
a
month.
F
D
G
A
A
T
T
I
think
that
that's
an
insane
thing
to
spend
ammunition
on
it's
completely
unnecessary
and
it's
unnecessary
for
them
to
have
this
amount
of
money
towards
ammunition,
whether
it's
for
training
or
for
being
used
against
the
public.
I
think
it's
ridiculous
and
I
think
that
you
guys
should
take
more
time
to
really
think
about
if
they
need
this
money
and
what
it
could
be
better
spent
on.
So
don't
vote
on
this
today
would
be
my
two
cents.
Thank
you.
A
U
U
U
So
just
wanted
to
say
that
also
it's
important
to
think
about
how
much
we
allocate
for
this
because
we're
allocating
so
over
60
000
was
allocated
for
on
duty
purposes,
which
was
not
clear
to
begin
with,
and
the
amount
of
money
that
you
allocate
towards
us
incentivizes
cops
to
use
deadly
force
if
you're
providing
cops
with
tons
of
ammunition
to
use
for
for
killing
somebody
you're,
obviously
kind
of
encouraging
them
to
do
that.
In
my
opinion,
second
or
thirdly,
des
moines,
police
officers
have
been
trained
in
something
very
controversial,
called
killology.
U
U
A
V
Hi,
I
would
also
like
to
echo
some
of
the
comments
that
a
lot
of
the
other
speakers
have
said
so
so
far.
I
am
deeply
disturbed
by
most
of
this
money
being
used
for
duty
purposes,
not
training,
as
well
as
the
possible
use
of
this
ammunition
on
reacting.
To
quote
civil
disobedience
we've
seen
how
chemical
and
other
weapons
are
used
on
protesters
by
the
des
moines
police
we've
been
seeing
it
these
past
months.
V
G
K
I
don't
think
anything
in
the
materials
we
had
indicated
that
this
was
to
be
used
against
folks
on
civil
disobedience,
and
I
I
think
the
dollar
amounts
listed
in
the
memo,
the
metro
star,
and
this
might
be
a
clarification
that
I
need,
but
my
read
of
that
is
not
the
difference
between
duty
and
training.
Those
are
just
the
areas
of
the
budget
where
this
comes
from,
and
the
other
piece
of
this
is
that
these
are.
This
is
already
money
that
was
appropriated
in
our
budget.
This
is
not
new
money.
K
O
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
so
the
money
has
already
been
appropriated
in
our
budget.
The
metro,
metro,
star
piece
is
the
training
and
duty
ammo.
The
rest
is
ammunition
for
training
at
the
des
moines
police
academy,
as
well
as
duty
ammo,
so
we're
required
to
certify
twice
a
year,
shoot
qualification
courses
for
that.
Every
employee
that
is
sworn
that
carries
a
firearm.
O
D
Thank
you
appreciate
all
of
our
speakers
and
we
would
hopefully
everybody
if
they
could
have
some
updated
information.
We
certainly,
of
course,
it's
not
as
easy
as
if
we
were
all
at
city
hall
and
we
could
raise
our
hands,
but
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
that's
probably
not
our
wisest
idea,
but
we
appreciate.
D
M
M
So
it
really
seems
just
dangerous
to
me
that
we're
talking
about
100,
basically
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
nine
to
nine
thousand
dollars
being
used
for
weapons
weapons
that
are
lethal
rounds
and
we're
not
even
sure
about
what
that
is,
I
can't
or
what
that's
being
used
for
exactly
I
just.
I
can't
imagine
anything
else
that
we'd
be
spending
99
000
on
and
have
this
kind
of
just
lack
of
information,
and
really,
it
seems
like
there's
a
push
against
us
getting
more
information
as
well.
M
W
Support
this,
I
urge
everyone
to
vote.
No,
I
think
that
there
is
a
clear
need
for
transparency
on
where
this
is
actually
being
allocated
and
how
it's
being
allocated
because,
like
they
have
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
and
misunderstanding
potentially
on
where
this
ammunition
is
going
and
how
it's
being
used,
whether
it's
in
the
field
or
it's
not.
W
It's
from
what
I
understand.
It's
already
some
a
budget,
that's
for
ammunition,
but,
like
people
have
said
before,
we
really
need
to
think
about
different
ways
that
we
can
actually
use
this
money
to
help
impact
the
community
right.
So
our
police
and
everyone
on
this
council
is
really
supposed
to
be
the
advocates
for
the
community.
What
quality
of
life
do
we
want
the
community
to
have?
Is
it
the
quality
of
life
where
police
officers
have
as
many
bullets
as
they
need?
W
As
far
as
allocating
those
sources
to
other
things
that
people
have
mentioned
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
these
sources
can
be
allocated
that
have
already
been
mentioned,
and
I
think
that
you
guys
already
are
aware
of-
I
mean
you're,
all
smart
individuals
that
can
understand
that
there
is
more
need
in
the
community
that
these
sources
could
be
allocated
to
versus
ammunition
like
that.
I
feel
like
that
should
be
a
no-brainer
and
the
fact
that
so
many
people
are
speaking
out
against.
W
This
should
be
a
clear
indication
that
this
should
be
a
no
at
least
for
today,
until
we
can
get
some
transparency,
whether
that's
on
the
website,
that's
easily
accessible
to
all
the
people
in
the
community
and
to
everyone
that
would
like
to
access
it
and
then
just
more
clear
description
on
where
what
this
ammunition
is
for.
Is
it
for
active
shooter,
bomb
threats
or
everything
else.
So
I
would
really
appreciate
everyone
voting
no
on
this
and
getting
more
transparency
on
this
whole
issue.
Thank
you.
X
X
We
do
not
need
more
ammunition.
We
do
not
need
more
ammunition
to
be
used
against
people
that
are
practicing
their
right
to
civil
disobedience.
There
is
no
logic.
We
need
to
look
at
how
we're
spending
our
tax
dollars
and
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
des
moines
and
I'm
56
years
old.
I've
paid
a
lot
of
taxes,
so
I
urge
the
council
to
be
more
thoughtful
to
be
more
considerate,
to
be
more
open-minded
to
be
better
listeners
to
what
the
people
are
saying.
Y
Y
Y
Y
L
S
Z
Z
Right
now
we
are
trying
to
tell
you
what
we
need
and
you
are
not
listening,
and
I
I
just
I,
as
we
have
seen
in
all
of
these
protests,
the
police
are
the
agitators.
The
police
are
the
ones
that
are
taking
this
from
a
regular
protest
and
just
first
amendment
freedom
of
speech,
just
demonstration
and
agitating
it
and
making
it
a
dangerous
situation.
Z
It
is
not
the
demonstrators
and
I
just
I
don't
understand
how
we
can
even
be
asking
if
we
can
spend
this
much
money
on
bullets,
and
so,
let's
just
break
it
down
for
a
second
ninety
thousand
dollars
a
dollar
a
bullet
wait,
that's
way
more
than
it'll
ever
probably
cost.
There's
90,
000
potential
lives,
gone
say
it
takes
two.
That's
45.
000
potential
lives
gone,
please
vote.
No.
This
is
insane.
Z
Please,
vote
no
and
really
hear
what
we're
trying
to
say
and
if
you
truly
do
want
a
better
des
moines
and
if
you
want
to
stop
the
brain
drain
from
iowa
and
if
you
want,
if
you
want
what
you
say
you
want,
and
if
you,
if
the
city
truly
does
mean
that
and
stick
to
their
values,
then
you
need
to
do
that
and
you
need
to
provide
that
kind
of
community
for
us.
Please
vote
now.
Thank
you.
AA
AA
The
budget
could
be
used
to
help
our
own
community
during
a
pandemic,
as
jalen
said
earlier,
it
could
provide
130
families
with
rent
for
the
time
being,
or
at
least
help
them
not
be
evicted.
In
this
time.
Also,
we've
seen
over
the
last
few
months
that
dmpd
has
absolutely
zero
regard
for
their
own
citizens,
I.e
using
chemical
weapons
at
the
capital
on
protesters,
rubber
bullets,
everything
under
the
sun.
AA
I
think
that
they
will
gladly
take
advantage
of
the
funding
to
their
ammunition,
and
I
think
the
city
council
should
really
take
advantage
of
this
moment
and
how
many
young
people
are
coming
into
this
zoom
call
and
speaking.
You
know
what
they
want
speaking
the
things
that
they
think
needs
to.
You
know
happen
and
needs
to
benefit
our
community.
Thank.
AB
AB
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes
hi?
I
echo
everything,
that's
already
been
said,
and
I
also
just
want
to
call
out
dana
real
quick
because
he
said
some
of
this
money.
We
need
it
because
bullets
expire
right,
so
we
need
to
like
replace
those.
I
don't
know
if
city
council
is
aware,
but
if
you're
storing
ammunition
correctly,
it
has
a
shelf
life
of
up
to
like
10
to
20
years,
military
ammo
lasts
50
years.
AB
So,
if
he's
spending,
if
y'all
are
like
giving
him
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
if
this
is
like
the
lowest
budget
for
this
in
a
while,
like
how
many
bullets
are
dmpd
shooting
every
year
that
they
need
this
much
money
to
replace
them
or
like
what
does
that
warehouse?
Look
like
that's
full
of,
like
our
taxpayer
money
paying
for
all
these
bullets
like
this
is
just
like
ridiculous
and,
like
please
vote.
AB
P
Y
AC
Is
hi?
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
an
opportunity
to
listen
to
a
lot
of
my
peers
as
we
share
our
concerns
about
this
line.
Item
that's
being
spent.
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
and
make
sure
that
you
guys
knew
that
there
was
a
lot
of
people.
I'm
would
like
to
be
counted
amongst
them.
That
would
encourage
you
to
vote
no
on
this
item.
A
G
AD
D
P
D
E
Sure,
mr
mayor,
I
appreciate
it
listen
to
everyone's
comments.
There
was
a
couple
of
them
that
were
concerning
to
me.
We
talked
about
how
many
times
we've
had
an
active
shooter
or
something
like
that.
Well,
it's
good
that
we've
never
had
an
active
shooter
in
our
in
our
city
and
that
hasn't
happened.
E
E
S
G
E
Yeah,
that's
fine,
okay,
mayor,
there's,
a
motion
on
the
table.
You
know
what
let's
vote
and
you
know
what
if
it
gets
voted
down,
then
it
gets
voted
down.
But
at
this
point
in
time
I
I'm
willing
to
to
vote
on
this
item
and
I'm,
but
I'm
willing
to
get
cussed
out
by
every
single
person,
but
obviously
there's
a
larger
constituent
out
there
that
believe
that
our
police
department
should
be
trained
and
trained
properly
because
they're
not
just
like.