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From YouTube: 11-30-20 City Council Work Session
Description
Des Moines City Council work session meeting via teleconference on Monday, Nov. 30, 2020.
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These
are
important
and
we
apologize
to
everybody
when
we
discovered
that
our
attendees
hopeful
attendees
were
unable
to
see
it
and
there
was
no
simulcast.
We
terminated
our
meeting
and
hopefully
you
all
are
back
for
the
restart
of
this.
It's
really
good
important
information,
and
we
we
do
this
periodically
to
in
in
terms
of
the
survey
to
find
out
how
people
are
feeling
and
thinking
about
the
city
of
des
moines
and
in
the
work
that
we
do
scott.
D
So,
yes,
we
do
have
our
two
topics
this
morning
that
were
originally
scheduled
for
the
23rd
and
the
first
of
which
is
our
every
two
year:
residence
survey
that
we
do
in
partnership
under
contract
with
etc,
and
we
have
robert
on
this
call
to
help
with
the
presentation,
and
so
yes,
with
last
week,
we
robert
was
able
to
present
information
that
is
available
and
has
been
available
since
monday
morning
on
our
website.
The
city's
website
that
video
can
be
watched
and
see
that
part
of
the
presentation.
D
For
this
morning
I've
asked
that
he
summarized
the
information
just
spend
a
few
minutes
on
the
trends
and
the
recap.
If
you
will
and
allow
for
the
council
to
ask
additional
questions
that
you
may
have,
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
the
to
the
second
topic
again.
This
information
is
available.
Not
only
the
powerpoint,
but
also
the
full
presentation
is
available
on
the
city
manager's
website.
That's
something
for
the
public.
You
can
find
pretty
easily
by
going
on
to
our
city
website
and
doing
a
search
on
resident
survey
and
it'll.
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E
Thank
you
scott.
Good
morning,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I'm
robert
haycock,
a
senior
project
manager
with
etc
institute.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
with
you
this
evening
or
after
morning
I
mean
see
I'm
already
thinking
it's
still
night
time
this
morning,
as
I
as
instructed,
I
will
try
to
go
through
fairly
rapidly
here,
just
kind
of
recapping,
the
presentation
that
we
did
last
week.
E
E
Our
purpose
is
straightforward:
to
provide
support
to
the
department
of
directors
to
align
the
existing
resources
with
programmatic
needs,
to
measure
trends
from
prior
surveys,
to
gather
input
from
residents
to
help
set
budget
priorities
and
also
to
compare
des
moines
performance
with
other
similar
size
cities.
Next
slide,
here's
an
outline
of
our
methodology.
How
we
got
here
the
overall
approach,
we
did
actually
have
quite
a
positive
response
to
the
survey
this
time
with
864
responses
when
we
had
a
goal
of
800.,
so
that
was
very
positive.
E
E
The
ratings
as
we
go
through
you'll
see
your
ratings
for
des
moines
are
generally
higher
than
the
national
average
for
cities
of
a
similar
population,
and
then
improvements
to
these
areas
are
four
areas
that
kind
of
come
out
of
the
survey
that
has
priority
investment
areas
for
the
the
city
moving
forward,
including
police
services,
communications,
street
maintenance
and
community
development
next
slide,
as
we
get
ready
to
go
through
the
major
findings.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
one
of
the
the
particulars
about
surveys
is
that
there
it
can
be
a
lag.
E
So
when
we
see
some
of
these
items
and
the
ratings
that
are
there,
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
if
it's
a
low
mark,
for
example,
that
the
city
hasn't
taken
steps
to
address
that
or
move
the
needle
in
the
right
direction.
It
just
may
mean
that
there's
a
lag
between
time
that
some
of
those
improvements
are
made
and
when
it's
actually
perceived
and
recognized
by
the
citizens
in
the
survey
next
slide,.
E
We'll
go
through
some
of
these
really
quickly
just
trend
data
you'll
see
in
a
very
positive
direction.
We
have
three
surveys
there
from
2016-18
and
2020.,
actually
from
2018
to
2020
a
10
increase
in
satisfaction
of
the
appearance
of
private
property
in
neighborhoods,
which
has
been
a
focus
point
of
the
city
next
slide.
E
This
question
was:
has
your
neighborhood
improved
over
the
past
five
years
and
again
you
see
positive
trends.
Moving
from
2018
to
2020,
a
seven
percent
more
folks
felt
that
they're
satisfied.
I
should
say:
that's:
what's
in
blue
there,
the
blue
are
satisfied
or
very
satisfied.
The
pink
or
reddish
color
is
dissatisfied
or
very
dissatisfied,
and
the
white
is
do
not
know.
That's
pretty
consistent
as
we
move
through
next
slide,
major
finding
number
two.
When
you
look
at
how
des
moines
compares
to
other
similar
cities
next
slide
as
we
go
through.
E
E
So,
overall,
we
look
at
the
issue
of
how
safe
residents
feel
in
their
community
here
significant
difference
in
terms
of
the
overall
overall
feeling
of
residence.
75
percent
of
residents
in
des
moines
feel
satisfied,
are
very
satisfied
and
are
safe
and
then
54
of
those
compared
to
54
from
other
cities.
Next
slide
won't
go
through
all
of
these,
but
very
positive
ratings.
You
can
see
by
the
blue
arrows
for
police
services
next
slide
overall
quality
police
protection.
This
gives
you
a
breakdown
of
the
cities
that
we
have
compared
you
two
in
this
particular
survey.
E
I
will
say
that
we
received
some
feedback,
that
there
are
some
other
cities
more
in
the
upper
northern
midwest
that
if
we
happen
to
be
surveying
them
in
the
not
too
distant
future
that
we
will
try
to
reflect
those
in
comparisons
in
the
future.
But
this
is
what's
available.
We
were
a
little
bit
limited
just
because
of
the
coven
period
and
some
of
the
cities
that
have
not
have
not
gone
forward
with
theirs,
as
you
did
this
time.
So
anyway,
very
positive
you
can
see
des
moines
is
in
the
blue
line
there.
E
E
Satisfaction
with
parks,
recreation
services
across
the
board
very
positive
ratings,
especially
in
those
areas
you
look
at,
for
example,
landscaping
along
city,
streets
parks
and
other
areas.
69
percent
of
your
residents
are
satisfied
or
very
satisfied,
compared
to
only
47
nationally
next
slide,
you
can
see
just
showing
a
breakdown
against
particular
cities.
Next
slide
overall
satisfaction
with
libraries
again
significantly
higher
than
the
national
average
next
slide,
just
showing
that
a
different
way
next
slide.
E
In
terms
of
satisfaction
with
city
communication,
you
do
see
a
couple
of
red
arrows
there.
That
means
that
you're
significantly
lower
than
the
us
than
the
average
of
the
cities
we're
comparing
you
to.
I
would
point
out
again:
this
is
one
of
those
areas
that
I
believe,
based
on
my
understanding
of
the
investment
the
city
has
made
the
changes.
E
The
city
has
made
you're,
seeing
a
bit
of
a
lag
there
just
between
when
changes
have
been
made
and
and
the
perception
of
the
citizens,
but
the
city
introduced
a
new
website
last
year,
so
it
takes
a
little
while
sometimes
for
that
to
be
to
show
up.
I
do
think
that
the
overall
quality
of
the
website,
though,
although
it's
48
compared
to
56,
I
believe,
is
about
four
percent
higher
than
it
was
two
years
ago.
E
E
E
Priorities
for
investment-
this
is
where
we
at
etc
will
take
the
data
not
only
from
from
this
survey
but
other
services.
Compare
that
look
at
how
it
all
push
it
goes
together
and
and
outlines
those
areas
based
on
the
citizen
rankings
of
importance
and
satisfaction
to
tell
you
potential
areas
for
investment
next
slide.
E
E
You
see
the
visibility
of
police
in
neighborhoods,
ranked
as
a
very
high
priority,
and
you
have
several
high
priorities
as
well
and
a
medium
priority
there
now,
just
because
it's
a
medium
priority
doesn't
mean
the
city
shouldn't
be
spending
time
on
that
or
focused
on
that.
But
as
we
go
through
you'll
see
in
some
areas,
you
won't
have
anything
really
pop
out
as
a
very
high
or
a
high
priority.
So
we
would
tell
you
that
those
are
significant.
E
This
is
fire
services
again,
nothing
really
popped
out
in
terms
of
a
very
high
or
a
high
priority,
but
you
do
have
several
areas
there
as
a
medium
priority.
Next
slide
parks
and
recreation
high
priority.
There
are
a
couple
of
areas
there
that
jumped
out
a
number
of
restaurants
and
city
parks
and
use
of
green
practices
in
the
parks.
E
E
Libraries,
nothing
really
jumped
out
as
being
a
high
priority
or
very
high
priority,
but
you
do
have
a
lot
of
areas
there
that
are
medium
priority
again,
it
doesn't
mean
that
they're,
not
areas
of
improvement
or
things
that
the
city
should
be
focused
on
it's
just
in
terms
of
combining
those
factors
together
to
really
highlight
areas
that
the
citizens
are
most
concerned
about.
Nothing
really
has
jumped
out
in
terms
of
that
next
slide,
so
in
summary,
residents
are
generally
satisfied
with
the
overall
quality
of
services
they
receive
from
the
city.
E
Ratings
for
des
moines
are
generally
higher
than
the
national
average
for
cities
of
a
similar
population
and
improvements
to
these
four
areas.
Police,
services,
communications,
street
maintenance
and
community
development
should
be
the
city's
top
overall
priorities.
If
this,
if
the
city
wants
to
see
to
move
that
needle
in
terms
of
customer
satisfaction
rings
next
slide
with
that,
I
hope
that
wasn't
too
fast,
but
we
did
want
to
keep
a
high-level
overview.
I'd
be
happy
to
try
to
help
answer
any
questions.
F
Yeah,
I
was
wondering:
can
we
see
the
the
survey
document
like
that
would
just
be
a
helpful
sort
of
reference
as
we
go
through
the
actual
results?
I
I
don't.
I
don't
recall
if
we've
seen
it,
it
was
shared
with
us
at
the
front
end
or
not,
but
if
that
could
be
recirculated-
and
I
assume
this
presentation
is
a
summary,
so
we
we
have
the
full
sort
of
a
fuller
report
as
well
right.
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D
G
Some
of
your
some
of
my
questions
were
answered,
but
also
then
to
scott.
I
guess
so
in
making
the
budgets
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
some
of
the
survey
detail
and
more
you
know,
some
of
this
was
the
overview,
but
in
the
in-depth
review,
are
all
the
departments
looking
at
that
on
how
they're
addressing
their
budget
son.
H
E
Scott,
this
is
robert.
If
I
could
just
comment.
One
of
the
things
that
I'll
see
very
very
often
with
cities
is
the
the
work
is
done.
The
investment
has
been
made,
but
sometimes
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
the
word
out
and
trumpeting
the
city's
successes,
and,
and
all
of
that
so
sharing
that
information
about
the
changes
that
have
been
made
is
is
very
important
as
well.
D
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
you
again,
robert
for
coming
back
a
second
time
and
paul
goldberg
paw
for
her
assistance
on
this
as
well.
The
second
item:
there
is
the
neighborhood
commercial
revitalization
program.
We
have
both
aaron
with
our
development
services
department
and
I
believe
katie
may
be
helping
out
from
her
department
erin.
I
see
you've
got
your
presentation
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
C
I
Awesome
thank
you
good
morning.
I
hope
everybody
had
a
great
holiday
weekend.
We
are
rolling
out
a
neighborhood
revitalization
program
and
wanted
to
give
you
the
background
on
it.
Give
you
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions,
provide
some
feedback
and
just
generally
gets
you
reacquainted
with
the
program
that
we
are
basically
revamping.
We
had
a
facade
grant
program
out
there
for
a
number
of
years.
I
It's
been
fairly
dormant
for
the
last
couple
of
years
and
with
a
change
in
funding
source
for
it,
we
took
the
opportunity
to
open
up
all
of
the
parameters
around
it
and
do
a
fresh
roll
out
in
part.
This
was
made
possible
by
our
new
by
the
hiring
of
our
new
economic
development
project
manager,
katie
hernandez,
which
you'll
hear
from
in
a
few
minutes.
J
Hi,
this
is
katie
hernandez
with
office
of
economic
development,
so
I'll
jump
in
here.
We
this
slide
just
kind
of
overviews
how
this
program
aligns
with
the
city
government
vision
that
has
been
identified
through
the
plan
dsm
initiative
of
the
city
of
des
moines.
So
you
know
a
vibrant
capital
city,
great
neighborhoods,
regional
economy.
Certainly
this
program
will
will
will
give
small
businesses
a
boost
and
and
contribute
to
the
regional
economy
as
a
whole
community
sustainability.
J
Through
these
projects,
and
then
opportunities
for
leisure,
so
so
contributing
to
the
quality
of
life
standard
here
in
des
moines
and
then
tremendous
pride
in
the
des
moines
community,
we
know
that
our
community
really
supports
small
businesses,
and
you
know
we
get
excited
about
a
new
new
business
announcement,
so
just
kind
of
speaking
to
the
the
the
vision
of
of
the
city
and
how
this
program
elevates.
That.
J
In
in
this
city,
and
but
we
did
want
to
kind
of
include
some
small
business
statistics
as
we
anticipate
that
this
program
will
will
gain
or
garner
interest
from
our
small
business
community.
So
I'm
just
kind
of
throwing
out
some
small
business
statistics
with
from
small
business
impact
in
the
economy.
I
So,
as
I
said
this,
the
the
neighborhood
commercial
revitalization
program
is
a
revamp
of
a
facade
grant
program
that
we
had
for
a
number
of
years.
It
was
it
that
program
that
former
program
was
funded
with
cdbg
funds.
We
found
over
time
that
those
funds
were
difficult
for
small
businesses
to
utilize.
I
So,
with
the
these
number
of
limitations,
the
council
earlier
this
year
shifted
the
cdbg
funds
that
we
had
been
using
for
this
program
to
other
eligible
uses
within
the
city
and
backfilled
that
with
general
fund
dollars.
So
we
believe
the
program
will
be
easier
to
utilize
for
the
small
business
community,
the
entrepreneurial
community
and
the
smaller
scale
redevelopment
community,
which
this
program
is
intended
to
serve.
J
So
we'll
jump
into
the
program
overview
and
some
details
of
the
program,
so
some
eligibility
requirements,
the
applicant
must
be
the
property
owner
business,
tenant
with
or
or
business
tenant,
with
written
permission
from
the
property
owner
to
make
improvements,
it
is
a
a
one-to-one
matching
grant
of
sorts.
So
the
requirement
is
a
non-city
investment
of
at
least
50
percent
into
the
into
the
project
and
then
the
agreement
to
create
or
retain
jobs
as
a
result
of
the
project.
J
J
Ineligibility
the
project
could
not
cannot
have
been
issued
a
building
permit
prior
to
approval,
so
basically,
just
speaking
to
retroactive
funding.
If,
if
the
project
has
already
started,
we
you
know,
we
don't,
we
don't
want
to
fund
those
those
projects
that
are
already
underway,
residential,
primarily
residential
properties,
are
ineligible
and
then
business
types
that
are
discouraged
from
applying
include
liquor
and
tobacco
stores,
adult
entertainment,
product
stores,
pawn
shop,
check,
cashing
and
payday
loans,
car
dealerships
and
gas
stations.
J
So
some
eligible
projects
under
this
program
so
exterior
site
improvements
and
facade
renovations,
kind
of
speaking
to
the
exterior
improvements
of
the
building
building
stabilization
roof
repair,
a
grease
trap,
interceptor
energy,
efficient
hvac
systems,
fire
sprinklers,
electric
and
plumbing
upgrades
to
the
building,
bringing
those
build.
Those
those
properties
within
within
code
requirements,
so
ineligible
costs
include
interior,
finishes
and
soft
design
costs,
sweat,
equity
or
self-performed
work
and
then
parking
lot.
Improvements,
standalone
parking
lot
improvements,
so
those
would
be
allowed
as
long
as
there's
a
building
improvement
as
part
of
the
overall
project.
J
So
the
funding
the
the
funding
mechanism
is
a
reimbursement.
We
can
kind
of
look
at
the
the
table
to
see
the
the
amounts
to
be
potentially
awarded.
So
all
of
the
progr,
all
of
the
all
the
funds
will
be
a
reimbursement
so
that
you
know
that
that
helps
make
sure
that
the
city's
investment
is,
you
know
controlled
to
the
actual
project,
cost
and
lien
waivers
and
invoices
are,
are
required
and
will
be
reviewed
by
city
staff.
J
The
city
manager
is
authorized
to
award
contracts
equal
to
or
less
than
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
then
grants
grants
are
are,
like.
I
said
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
matching
program
so
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
applicants
eligible
for
50
of
qualifying
costs,
and
then,
after
that,
it's
a
it's
a
graduated
scale.
So
you
can
see
that
it
tops
out
at
a
max
award
of
160
000
per
project,
and
that
would
be
for
for
for
projects
above
500
000.
J
I
Based
on
the
demand
that
we
see
in
this
first
round
of
applications,
we
ex
we
intend
to
have
the
application
period
open
for
about
six
weeks
and
then
we'll
be
scoring
those
applications
and
recommending
funding
award
levels.
Based
on
what
we
see
we'd
like
to
get
to
the
point
where
future
rounds
of
funding
over
the
next
couple
of
years
can
just
be
made
on
a
rolling
basis
recognizing
that
annual
application
periods,
don't
necessarily
line
up
with
project
schedules.
I
So
we
would
ideally
like
to
have
funding
available
such
that
we
could.
We
could
do
that
over
time,
but
these
first
couple
of
rounds
we
do
expect,
will
be
competitive
understanding
from
our
contacts
and
networks
in
the
community
that
there's
likely
to
be
more
applications
and
funding
available
for
the
next
year
or
so,
and
then
we'll
report
back
to
you
on
how
that's
going
and
look
at
funding
requests
that
are
commensurate
with
with
the
demand
and
availability
of
funds.
K
I
I
K
I
K
J
Okay,
so
scoring
scoring
of
the
applications
submitted,
so
there's
a
designated
committee
to
review
and
score
applications.
The
committee's
comprised
of
separate
staff
representatives
from
several
departments
or
divisions
within
the
city,
including
planning
or
urban
design,
legal,
civil
and
human
rights,
commission,
oed
and
then
city
manager's
office
and
scores
will
be
based
on
the
following
categories:
visible
improvements
and
catalytic
impact.
J
J
J
J
L
Thanks
mayor,
you
say
you
got
11
in
the
in
the
pipeline.
Can
we
get
a
a
list
of
who?
Those
are
right
now,
I'd
be
kind
of
interested
to
see
who's
already
qualified
and,
of
course,
my
years
really
perked
up.
I
I
know
there's
quite
a
few
areas
around
here
that
come
to
mind
and
I'd
like
I
think,
we've
already
talked
about
them,
but
I'd
like
to
see
where
we're
at
right
now.
I
Sure
we
can
get
you
that
list
and
it
they're
just
they
aren't
qualified
in
any
way.
They're
just
groups,
entities
owners
that
have
reached
out
to
us
over
the
course
of
the
last
18
months
or
so
with
projects
that
they
are
working
on
properties
they
own
ideas
they
have
for
improvements
to
real
estate
in
the
neighborhoods.
I
F
I
We
could
work
with
a
property
owner
in
an
urban
renewal
district
and
work
on
a
tif
rebate,
sort
of
structure.
In
addition
to
these
funds
it
is,
it
is
possible
to
layer
them,
certainly,
but
by
and
large,
we
think
that
this
program
fills
a
gap
where
other
funding
sources
don't
necessarily
exist
or
don't
make
sense,
so
oftentimes
what
we
find
with
some
of
these
smaller
scale
programs
or
smaller
scale
ambitions.
I
Funded
out
of
this
program
without
other
city
incentives,
that's
not
to
say
that
they
they
could
be
eligible
for
tax
abatement
and
they
could
be
projects
where
invest.
Esm
may
be
involved.
Katie.
Can
you
can
you
speak
any
more
to
the
layering
of
funds
from
either
invest
dsm?
Am
I
off
on
the
tif
incentives,
any
other
layering
that
you
know
of.
J
J
Targeted
area,
but
we
also
talked
with
investia
sm
about
potentially
either
layering
funds
or,
if
there's
a,
maybe
a
project
that
is
maybe
a
smaller
scope
that
investius
their
commercial
program
takes
on
that
project
depending
on
capacity
within
their
program.
So
I
think,
there's
multiple
avenues
that
we
could
take,
but
as
far
as
interested
interested
parties
in
this
program,
I
think
only
two
have
landed
in
the
investia
some
boundaries.
I
Much
like
the
blighted
property
programs
that
we
have
where
I
think
we
have
made
efforts
to
be
city-wide.
This
is
this
is
really
an
effort
to
to
make
the
funds
available
city-wide.
Yes,
they
could
be
layered
with
investiusm,
but
really
our
focus
is
to
work
throughout
the
cities
in
all
of
the
neighborhoods.
C
K
I
K
K
F
I
Any
project
throughout
the
city
can
apply
and
receive
these
dollars.
At
this
point
we
are
not
targeting
particular
areas
as
we
you
know,
as
we
look
at
as
we
look
at
revitalization
planning
programs
in
various
parts
of
the
city,
we
could
shift
that
and
if
we
do
we
will.
We
will
certainly
make
the
council
aware
and
and
and
provide
input
to
that.
But
at
this
point
we
are.
K
I
I
Yes,
absolutely,
and
I
you
know,
I
expect
that
this
will
likely
be
at
some
point,
an
annual
kind
of
reporting
that
we
will
want
to
do.
But
initially
you
know
we're
gonna.
We
have
a.
We
have
a
chunk
of
money
in
the
340
000
and
we
will
report
to
you
on
how
that
was
awarded.
You'll,
certainly
see
anything
come
forward
that
is
above
the
that
is
above
the
50
000
level,
but
we'll
also
report
to
you
on
those
grants
that
are
under
that
50
000
threshold.
K
I
It
could
be
used
for
those
sorts
of
improvements.
However,
we
are
not
allowing
solely
parking
lot
landscape
requirements
to
be
a
project.
It
needs
to
be
in
conjunction
with
a
building
improvement
as
well.
Okay,
but
often
time,
that's
oftentimes,
that's
where
we
see
those
needs
for
those
site
plan
requirements
that
they
kick
in
is
when
somebody
has
an
idea
for
a
building
improvement
that
they
want
to
make
they're,
making
an
investment
that
kicks
them
into
the
requirement
to
make
those
site-wide
improvements,
and-
and
so
that's
what
kicks
it
in.
H
I
Yes,
okay,
you
know,
we
wrestled
with
these
yeah
sure
full
disclosure,
the
the
nitty
gritty
behind
the
scenes.
We
wrestled
with
these
quite
a
bit
honestly
and
we
have
found
that
every
time
we
come
up
with
an
absolute
cannot
do
something,
there's
a
compelling
reason
for
somebody
who
seems
to
be
disallowed.
So
you
know
we
mean.
B
I
H
And
aaron
piggybacking
on
a
email
exchange
that
we
had
in
the
last
week
about
building
improvements
and
the
the
question
is
wow.
We
have
to
improve
our
parking
lot
at
the
same
time
that
really
that's
kind
of
piling
on
to
their
renovation
expenses.
Could
this
could
these
dollars
help
with
that
project?.
I
D
No
further
comments:
I
appreciate
the
input
from
council.
Hopefully
it's
it's
better
understood
how
this
program
is
is
positioned
and
it's
it's
out
there
working
it's
another
tool
in
the
toolbox.
So
that's
that's
the
two
topics
we
have
for
this
morning.
There's
there's
the
opportunity
for
council
to
report
out
mayor
on
any
boards
and
commissions
if
they
wanted.
K
F
Yeah,
well,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
an
issue
that
I
think
connie
raised
at
the
tail
end
of
our
meeting,
the
as
the
meeting
was
being
cancelled
when,
when
this
didn't
work
out
about
the
streaming
and
and
posting
of
of
this
meeting,
you
know
I
know
in
the
past,
we've
done
a
better
job
of.
I
think
posting
the
presentations
online
and
I'd
like
us.
I
I
think
connie
suggested
that
we
post
these
meetings
and
the
presentations,
or
maybe
it
was
just
the
meetings.
F
B
A
The
work
sessions,
just
as
we
do
council
meetings
or
the
formal
workshops
that
used
to
take
place
in
the
chambers,
at
least
until
the
pandemic,
is
over,
because
that
would
cut
down
on
some
of
the
confusion,
both
external
and
internal.
So
I
I
would
have
absolutely
no
issue
at
all
with,
with
all
of
the
meetings
being
live
streamed
on
every
media,
that
we
have
available.
G
I
I
was
follow
up
that
I
think
that's
important.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
our
work
sessions
are
important
to
the
citizens
and
I
believe
that
we
should
continue.
I
know
that
they
got
away
from
it
for
a
while,
but
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
to
it,
especially
during
this
period,
where
we
are
all
which
will
be
for
a
while.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
this
information,
make
it
easier
so
appreciate
if
we
could
get
that
done.
D
Okay
and
and
we'll
have
a
conversation
as
we
look
to
go
back
in
person
on
how
to
handle
those.
I
know
the
council
enjoyed
the
more
informal
settings
sitting
around
tables
and
talking
through
issues
that
the
public's
invited,
obviously
to
to
sit
in
a
listen
and
when
we
get
back
to
in
person,
we
can.
We
can
talk
about,
maybe
recording
those
audio
only
might
make
sense
to
stream
the
audio
at
least
the
public.
So
we'll
plan
to
have
that
conversation
as
we
open
back
up
to
in-person
meetings.
G
No,
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
know
that
some
of
us,
because
of
the
filming
or
whatever,
but
I
think
that
at
least
minimal
as
audio-
I
don't
really
you
know,
even
if
we're
in
an
informal
setting.
I
think
we
can
still
film
that,
but
we
can
discuss
that
further,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
our
work
sessions
are
available
to
the
public,
just
as
our
meetings
are.
C
All
right,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
panelists
and
council
members
and
thank
aaron
and
her
staff
for
walking
us
through
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
thank
you
all
and
thank
also
the
the
public
and
again,
let
us
know,
and
either
through
the
city,
clerk's
office
or
the
city
manager's
office.
If
you
have
any
follow-up
questions
or
concerns,
thank
you
all
for
attending
this
morning,
this
meeting's.