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From YouTube: 10-18-21 City Council work session
Description
Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, October 18, 2021.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
October
18th
councilwork
session
we're
meeting
this
morning
and
we
got
a
couple
items
on
our
agenda.
We
got
the
local
option,
service
and
sales
tax
fiscal
year
end
report,
and
then
we
got
budget
some
debt
management
discussions.
So
scott
I'll
quickly.
Kick
it
over
to
you
and
let's
get
going.
I
know
that
there's
a
few
of
us
that
have
some
obligations
today,
so.
B
Yes,
so
mayor
council,
good
morning,
I
had
a
couple
topics
here
for
nick
and
joe
bransteader
to
to
go
through
with
you
it's
that
time
year,
where
we
finished
up
another
year
of
local
options,
sales
tax
projects,
so
they'll
go
through
that
first
and
then.
B
Secondly,
there's
been
some
questions
about
the
capital
improvement
plan
and
some
desires
to
add
some
projects
in
the
next
cycle
there,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
set
the
stage
properly
with
those
conversations
about
where
some
of
our
constraints
are
within
the
debt
service
management,
and
there
are
definitely
some
constraints
that
we
have
to
be
aware
of
and
work
through.
So
I'd
ask
that
joe
and
and
nick
with
finance
to
help
explain
that
situation
so
I'll.
Let
them
take
over
from
here
thanks.
Okay,.
C
Honorable
mayor
honorable
him
here
and
council
members,
you
were
have
in
front
of
you
the
the
report.
I
think
that
was
sent
to
you
on
friday
and
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
go
through
kind
of
the
high
level
of
of
what
that
report
kind
of
lays
out
for
what
our
expenses
were
for
the
fiscal
year,
2021,
which
which
was
affected
by
coven.
As
you
can
kind
of
see
from
the
the
report
that
got
sent
out.
C
The
actual
revenues
that
were
received
during
the
year
were
37
34,
and
of
that
we
did
break
out
all
the
different
expenditure
categories
that
you
guys
highlighted
for
the
council
expenditure
policy
for
the
local
option
and
of
that
50
is
required
for
property
tax
relief
and
we
actually
spent
51
percent
in
this
current
the
fiscal
year
that
ended
june
30
of
21.,
and
then
it
also
breaks
out
into
street
improvements
and
flood
prevention.
C
That's
the
5
million
dollars
that
goes
into
our
capital
projects
for
street
projects
as
well
as
this
year
we
had
the
last
half
of
the
storm
water
piece
as
well
in
there
for
the
city-wide
study
and
then
some
some
additional
projects
that
we
started
to
fund
there,
which
totaled
almost
19
percent.
C
The
next
area
is
the
neighborhood
improvements
where
we
had
10.
We've
got
a
a
very
broad
list
of
different
items
under
the
neighborhood
improvements
that
made
up
the
10
percent
and
then
4
for
the
public
safety
improvements
and
expenditures.
The
rest
goes
into
either
a
designated
reserve
that
carries
over
from
year
to
year,
depending
on
the
program
or
just
the
regular
financial
reserves
that
we
try
to
maintain.
C
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
we
have
about
9
to
10
million,
which
is
about
20
percent
for
for
an
un,
a
financial
reserve,
because
local
option
sales
tax
varies
can
vary
a
lot
from
one
year
to
the
next.
With
the
report,
it
shows
that
we
went
from
38
down
to
34.,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
sustain
a
year
or
two
of
ups
and
down
downs.
C
This
slide
indicates
what
we
had
in
our
most
recent
cip
plan
that
was
approved
back
in
march
and
where
our
total
tax
rate
is
with
that
cip
plan,
and
then
the
blue
area
is
what
has
been
or
what
is
projected
or
what
was
projected
for
the
last
ci
cip
plan
and
what
that
local
option
sales
tax
was
able
to
do
so.
The
first
year,
when
you
guys
did
lower
the
property
tax
rate
that
60
cents
with
the
local
option
sales
tax.
C
We
did
save
the
tax
rate
by
a
dollar
two,
where
we
would
have
had
to
go
versus
where
we
actually
ended
up,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
that
it's
it's
definitely
grown.
The
current
fiscal
year.
We're
in
is,
is
fiscal
year
22
we
did
stay
at
1661
and
based
off
of
all
the
projects
that
we're
doing
and
the
asset
match
that
we
do
on
our
bond
issuances
that
we
started
once
we
got
local
option.
C
Sales
tax
would
have
been
a
savings
for
in
22
by
a
dollar
84
in
that
fiscal
year
and,
as
you
can
kind
of
see,
with
our
current
the
current
we're
still
working
on
this
next
budget
cycle
for
the
fiscal
year
23.
But
I
wanted
to
kind
of
show
you
what
was
last
approved
in
the
cip
plan.
D
E
C
About
before,
we've
got
the
property
tax
relief,
which
is
a
a
true
50
calculation
of
what
we
actually
receive
through
the
fiscal
year
and
then
the
other
component
on
that
was
a
neighbor
neighborhood
development
corp.
We
actually
did
make
a
contribution
to
them
beyond
the
million
dollars
for
some
special
projects
that
they
did
for
us
on
that.
So.
C
One
of
the
big
focuses
here
on
the
streets
is
that
five
million
dollars
a
year
that
we've
allocated
towards
streets
there
was
several
street
projects
that
we
did
across
the
entire
city.
The
local
option
report
details
out
all
of
those
on
that
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
those
specifically
the
stormwater
improvements.
We
did
there's
two
different
components
that
make
up
that
1.5
million
dollars.
C
The
the
million
dollars
that
makes
up
that
that
is,
is
a
loan
payback
back
to
the
general
fund,
so
it
to
avoid
debt.
We
borrowed
nine
million
dollars
from
the
general
fund
and
the
local
option.
Sales
tax
is
paying
the
general
fund
back
that
a
million
dollars
for
for
nine
years
to
so
it's
a
basically
an
interest-free
loan
from
the
general
fund
to
stormwater
be
able
to
get
some
of
these
projects
going
faster
and
then
the
flood
prevention
buyouts
is
in
this
designated
reserve.
C
This
is
400
000
this.
There
was
not
none
spent
this
current
this
past
fiscal
year,
but
it's
one
of
the
designated
reserves
amounts.
So
this
amount
is
continually
going
to
accumulate
until
they
have
the
ability
to
take
voluntary
purchases
or
some
of
the
flood
buyouts
in
four
mile
or
other
areas
of
the
city
that
are
in
the
floodplain.
C
We
have
in
the
past
as
well,
but
this
is
one
where
we're
trying
to
put
forth
some
additional
funding
to
get
all
of
the
the
houses
out
of
floodplain
areas
is
around
30,
like
30
plus
million
dollars,
and
so
this
is
trying
to
allocate
some
on
a
regular
basis
for
voluntary
purchases.
If
possible,
we.
D
C
Have
some
stormwater
srf
funds
for
sponsored
projects
that
are
going
towards
this
too?
We
have,
I
think
at
least
a
million
dollars
going
from
that
as
well.
So
there's
a
bunch
of
different
avenues
that
we
use
for
purchasing
properties
within
the
floodplain.
This
is
just
one
component
of
that.
C
Within
the
neighborhood
improvements,
we've
got
four
major
areas
that
was
that
was.
We
had
spend
in
in
this
current
fiscal,
this
fiscal
year
21.
C
the
special
investment
districts
that
the
invest
dsm,
contributions
that
we
have
through
that
organization
that
we
have,
as
well
as
the
property
improvement
program
which
that
kind
of
started
off
during
the
fiscal
year
21
and
we're
trying
to
get
through
that
process
with
neighborhood
services
and
and
go
through
that.
C
C
This
actually
was
was
one
that
was
a
carryover
from
last
year
and
so
they've
spent
last
year's
funds
and
this
year's
funds
within
the
fiscal
year
and
then,
of
course,
the
expanded
library
hours
they
we,
the
calculation
off
of
that,
is
the
how
many
hours
that
they
needed
to
be
able
to
do
the
extended
hours
for
all
the
different
libraries
that
that
came
back
that
additional
day.
D
C
Familiar
with
that
particular
project,
but
I
know
that
that
we
worked
yeah,
so
it
allowed
different
neighborhoods
to
apply
for
matching
grants
where,
where
we
can
kind
of
show
that
they've
made
a
contribution
in
the
betterment
of
the
neighborhoods.
B
F
G
H
Got
to
10
you
get
2500.
Okay,
I
don't
think
the
the
five
were
was
advertised.
I
never
saw
anything
on
the
on
this
on
the
website.
I
I
know
what
what
I've
I've
just
heard.
Some
comments
about
that
from
neighbors
that
you
know
it's,
it's
not
necessarily
going
to
people
that
need
the
help.
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
people
already
have
plenty
of
money
and
could
do
it
themselves,
but
they're
just
taking
advantage
of
the
free
money
which
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
right
or
wrong
or
anything
else.
H
B
Yeah
we
can
report
out
where
those
projects
were
and
and
the
details
behind
that
understand
that
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
the
neighbors
to
get
together.
I
heard
I've
gotten
quite
a
few
comments,
positive
that
you
know.
I
didn't
really
know
my
neighbors
before,
but
when
this
prop
these
projects
came
along,
they
were
able
to
actually
group
together.
H
E
C
Okay,
it
was
a
it
was
a
hundred
thousand
originally
and
then,
with
the
interest
that
we
saw,
we
saw
that
that
needed
to
would.
H
You
just
verify
that
there's
information
on
the
website,
that's
for
five
houses,
because
I
this
is
the
first
I've
ever
heard
of
five.
I
know
I've
been
in
neighborhood
meetings
where
invest
dsm
has
talked
about
it
and
they've
said
10,
10
or
12.
So
this
is
the
first
I've
ever
heard
about
five.
I
don't
know
if
they.
F
D
I
Is
it
our
one
source
that
we
mailed
everybody
or
what
are
we
doing
to
I've.
H
J
Pushed
a
lot
of
that
out
on
social
media
through
facebook,
our
facebook
page,
and
that
information
got
up
through
there.
We
did
it
through
our
neighborhood
e-newsletter,
at
least
a
couple
of
months
in
a
row.
D
J
F
F
G
So
it's
it's
on
there
and
in
actually
I
was
at
an
nfc
meeting
and
the
neighborhood
folks,
the
neighborhood
representative
on
there
actually
knew
it
was
five
from
the
city
website.
So
some
folks
know
about
it,
not
everyone.
I
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
see
that
I
think
could
be
an
improvement
for
the
block
grant
challenge.
G
I
mean
I'd
like
to
see
an
equity
piece
of
that,
and
one
of
the
pieces
I
was
thinking
is
maybe
reserve
a
certain
amount
for
previously
redlined
neighborhoods
would
be
a
way
to
to
help
with
that.
I
mean
that
isn't
necessarily
the
only
way
I'd
be
open
to
other
ideas,
but
I
think,
as
we
prepare
the
budget
for
next
year,
we
should
think
about
that
that
equity,
piece.
H
D
G
And,
like
I
said
I
don't,
the
red
line
might
be
a
a
way
to
to
to
do
that.
There
could
be
other
ways,
but
we
don't
need
to
make
the
whole
program
for
that,
but
just
a
piece
of
it
so
that
we
make
sure
that
it's
getting
spread
spread
around
the
entire
city.
C
Okay,
the
next
area
is
the
public
safety
improvements
and
expenditures
from
there
there's
there's
two
categories:
the
firefighter
positions,
what
those
were
were
13
positions
that
we
retained
after
the
end
of
a
a
grant
to
be
able
to
maintain
those
positions,
and
then
the
other
piece
is
the
mobile
mobile
mental
health
crisis
grants.
C
We
are
currently
negotiations
right
now
with
broad
lawns,
on
a
program
for
mental
health,
and
so
that'll
actually
start
being
used
in
this
current
fiscal
year,
and
I
believe
it's
either.
This
next
count
this
tonight's
council
meeting
or
the
next
one.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
brought
up.
I
think.
C
So
as
we
go
went
through
that
the
designated
reserves
are
based
off
of
the
flood.
I
B
J
B
D
B
No
30
will
not
be
likely.
The
recommendation
will
we'll
be
talking
through
what
the
actual
numbers
are.
My
understanding
is
that
there
has
been
some
communication
about
some
insistence
of
a
number
30.
I've
not
seen
anything
with
that
recommendation.
That
shows
that
that
is
actually
number
driven
for
what
we
need
to
accomplish
within
the
fire
department,
and
so
we
are
going
to
do
a
lean
forward
and
hire
more
than
the
current
vacancies,
the
19
that
that
is
under
authorized
strength.
At
the
moment
we
will
be
hiring
more
than
that.
D
H
D
B
I
So,
are
you,
are
you,
including
a
pre-certified
class
also
with
that.
B
B
H
I
guess
I
just
would
like
to
have
a
conversation,
because
I
know
in
2015
we've
got
that
study
where
it
was
clear
that
our
response
times
were
not
where
we
would
desire,
and
we
said
that
we
were
always
going
to
be
hiring
more
firefighters
here.
We
are
six
years
later
and
we
have
apparatus
that
is
out
of
service
every.
D
J
H
B
H
H
H
G
G
The
pre-certified
may
be
the
solution,
but
I
think
if
the
plan
is
not
to
come
back
with
a
class
of
30,
I
I
would
hope
that
you
were
prepared
and
interview
and
identify
the
additional
folks
to
get
up
to
30,
because
there
might
be
more
specific
direction
that
the
council
wants
to
provide.
G
But
but
since
those
decisions
are
going
on
right
now,
I
think
there'd
be
a
number
of
us
who
would
be
pretty
disappointed.
I
mean
I
can't
speak
for
everyone,
but
there'd
be
a
number
of
us
would
be
pretty
disappointed
if
that
option
is
cut
off
from
us
in
in
the
community,
either
the
communication
or
the
interview
process.
Whatever
is
going
on
right
now
and
that's
that's
very
clearly,
like
that's
that's
in
in
staffs
hands
like
that.
G
I
think,
there's
a
very
much
an
interest
in
accomplishing
that
this
class
and
then
going
forward,
because
I
think
we're
all
a
little
frustrated
that
we're
in
this
position
now
going
forward.
That
pre-certified
needs
to
be
a
piece
of
the
solution
long-term
so
that
next
time
we're
not
in
this
situation-
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
way
that
everyone
could
be
comfortable
with
that
approach.
K
And
scott,
my
question
is
the
reason
we're
in
this
position
is
we're
trying
to
save
money.
Is
that
what
the
concept
is?
No,
I
can't
imagine
that
it
is
not,
but
how
do
we
end
up
in
this
I
mean
I.
K
I
would
expect
that
the
chief
would
come
to
you
and
say
we
need
to
have
this
staffing
and
you
would
probably
say
we'll
get
to
that,
and
I
I
just
you
know
we
knew
station
11
is
coming
on
and
I'm
I'm
kind
of
upset
that
station
9
has
a
vehicle
out
of
service
almost
all
the
time.
K
F
To
bring
this,
I
think
we
needed
clarification,
so
we
have
a
full
understanding.
We
hear
30,
we
hear
the
numbers
of
the
retirements.
We
hear
the
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
it
laid
out.
What
is
the
projection
is?
There
is
really
strong
projection
on
how
many
people
are
injured,
going
to
retire
age
bracket
or
where
they're
going
to
go.
All
that
probably
makes
well.
That
makes
the
huge
determination
this
too.
H
B
Not
two,
no
you,
you
would
lose
one
or
two
ten
percent.
That's.
L
I
I
I
But
I
I
don't
believe
that
that
that
hiring
less
than
30
is
going
to
be
significant
out
of
this
class.
You
have
46
people
that
have
been
through
the
civil
service.
I
You
need
to
yeah
yeah,
you
need
to
pick
30
of
them,
get
them
trained,
get
them
hired
and
and
let's
see
how
many
we
got
and
and
and
going
forward,
then
let's
then,
let's
look
at
the
pre-certified
class.
I
B
D
H
B
H
J
H
It's
just
not
it's
just
not
fair
to
those
firefighters
that
are
out
there
working
every
single
day
to
to
be
in
the
situation
where
we
have
rigs
out
of
service
where
they're,
they're
working
and
then
right
away,
get
called
back
in
again.
That's
that's
not
how
we
want
our
fire
fighters
to
have.
We
don't
want
them
working
under
those
conditions.
I
don't
anyway.
I
Right
and
ability
to
do
more,
and
so
for
you
to
push
back
to
say
we
don't
need
30.
We
don't
need
30
this
time,
I'm
challenged
by
those
statements,
so
you
asked.
J
B
D
G
B
I
Do
what
are
we?
Because
that's
that's
the
same
thing.
Why
would
we
hire
the
30
and
then,
if
we,
if,
if
you're,
saying
you're
going
to
get
38,
if
we
so
if
we
lose
10
of
them
or
if
we
lose
20
of
them,
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
can
make
that
class.
What
you're
looking
at
at
12
or
13
at
the
pre-certified
level,
then
we
all
we
all
went.
I.
G
G
But
there
are
those
of
us
who
will
only
be
comfortable
with
the
30
right
now
and
then
going
forward.
If
you
make
this
pre-certified
work,
then
we'll
be
comfortable
when
you
come
back
to
us
and
say
pre-certified,
but
the
fact
that
it
has
gotten
to
this
point
were,
were,
I
think,
pretty
pretty
firm
on
the
30.
F
B
No,
that
process
has
only
been
discussed
and
there's
already
been
feedback.
There's
already
been
feedback
from
other
fire
department
chiefs
of
concern
that
they're
going
to
lose
three
four
or
five
firefighters
from
from
each
of
those
other
fire
departments,
so
that
I'm
starting
to
get
that
confidence
myself.
That
will
happen
the
12
to
15
pretty
easily
with
the
pre-certified.
But
I
do
understand
that
having
not
done
that
before
that,
that's
a
very
real
concern,
so
we'll
bring
this
back
when,
with
the
further
detail.
G
A
E
Carl,
please
yeah.
It
would
be
great
at
some
point
if
we
have
a
chance
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
what
our
authorized
number
ought
to
be.
I
mean,
if
you
know,
because
the
number
of
calls,
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
that
discussion
behind.
I
don't
know
if
there's
how
we
get
to
that
determination,
but
but
just
to
review
based
on
our
growing
population,
and
especially
the
number
of
emt
calls
is.
Is
this
the
right
number.
B
Yeah
yeah,
that's
that's
great.
We
will
bring
that
back
through
the
budget
process
and
you
are
going
to
see
a
recommendation
that
that
increases
that
officer
depending
on
how
that,
yes,
we
can
understand
the
expectations
are
that
that's
simple
growth
in
a
community
is
typically
not
a
good
reason
to
receive
a
safer
grant.
It's.
B
B
That's
not
the
normal
reason
why
you
would
get
a
safer
grant
like
what
we
got
before
for
our
paper
grant
was
rebuilding
a
workforce
that
we
had
to
cut
due
to
budgets
in
the
previous
years.
B
We
definitely
need
to
have
that
conversation
as
part
of
this,
because
that
is
not
always
the
case
right.
There's
is
definitely
additional
equipment
at
a
lot
of
the
fire
stations
that
is
there
as
needed
and
not
always
staffed
24
7.
and
that's
purposefully
so
that
you
have
enough
staff
to
go
to
the
type
of
calls
that
are
out
there
with
the
right
equipment
to
address
those
issues.
So
sometimes
that
will
mean
having
additional
apparatus
and
other
equipment
in
the
stations
ready
to
go.
E
I
Come
from
any
of
us
to
to
be
a
cheerleader
for
that
type
of,
if,
if
that's
the
direction
you're
going
to
go,
we'll
provide
you
with
that
yeah
you
can
provide
whatever,
but
as
an
elected
official
public
safety
is
our
number
one
concern
telling
telling
our
constituents
hey
there's
a
ladder
truck
there,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
staffed.
I
I
I
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
you,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
to
any
neighborhood,
no
matter
what
talking
points
you
give
and
tell
them
that
that's
that's
beyond
what
I
was
elected
to
to
tell
anyone,
and
I
I
don't
know
how
anyone
up
here
would
be
able
to
do
that.
No
matter
what
talking
points
you
give,
I
agree
matter
of
fact
they're
going
to
say:
why
are
you
buying
trucks
and
more
equipment?
B
B
B
We
have
that
pretty
well
known
with
public
safety
because
oftentimes
they
utilize
that
drop
program
and
say
I'm
going
to
retire
three
years
out
and
because
of
that
they
get
some
benefits
towards
their
retirement.
So
with
both
public
safety
departments,
we
do
have
typically
a
clear
understanding
of
retirements
that
are
coming
up
and
we
plan
for
that
within
the
academy
as
well,
but
covet.
I
B
Yes,
the
fire
department.
Yesterday,
for
a
few
months,
the
fire
union
asked
us
to
hesitate
on
on
the
fire,
so
that
was
a
that
was
communications
with
staff,
because
there
was
so
much
interactions
that
the
fire
department
to
staff
themselves
get
involved
in
the
hiring
or
the
recruitment
process
with
the
physical
exams
and
whatnot.
B
H
That's
all
the
more
reason
because
I've
heard
I
know
when
I
visited
with
administration.
I
was
told
well
because
of
covert
to
me:
that's
not
really
a
reason
not
to
have
our
fully
staffed
fire
a
department
and
if
we're
gonna
use
covert,
then
I
say:
let's
hire
the
additional
staff
to
make
up
for
it.
Let's
play
ketchup.
B
C
L
G
C
And
with
the
neighborhood
that
it'll
expand
as
well
yep,
we
we
had
to
reevaluate
21
because
of
the
loss
in
in
the
copen
revenues.
So
we
were
anticipating
having
a
lower
expend
in
21
because
of
the
lower
revenue
that
we
were
anticipating.
C
Yeah,
because
from
the
state
we
got
a
lower
number
from
for
the
21,
and
so
we
kind
of
adjusted
from
there.
C
For
22,
I
would
say
we're
looking
back
at
that
north
of
40
again
so
it'll
be
back
to
pre-pre-covered
levels
from
what
we
from
what
we've
gotten
from
the
state
so
far
so,
but
we
still
have
a
variable
of
not
knowing
the
the
november
reconciliation
that
they
do
for
21..
C
But
these
are
all
different
topics
that
that
we
kind
of
take
in
consideration
through
the
through
our
budget
process
and
we're
bringing.
This
is
what
we,
what
we've
done
through
21
and
and
we're
taking
that
forward
through
when
we
plan
for
the
for
the
the
next
budget,
as
well
as
the
cip
budget
as
well
as
we
put
this
together.
C
D
C
The
designated
reserve
again
is
made
up
of
two
different
project
programs,
one
of
which
is
the
flood
property
buyouts,
and
the
other
one
is
the
mobile
crisis
that
makes
up
the
1.2.
C
K
Nick
I've
got
one
200
000
reserve.
I
think
when
we
put
the
ballot
out
for
vote,
we
were
earmarking.
Four
hundred
thousand.
C
We
we've
we
basically
based
off
of
of
conversations
that
we've
had
through
that
process.
We
were
building
up
to
it,
so
we
did
200
200
and
then
in
22.
It
should
be
at
that
400
level
of.
I
F
B
K
F
F
D
A
Is
it
with
broad
lungs
or
was?
Is
it
with
the
other
providers,
because
the
meetings
that
I
go
to
broadlawns
is
there,
but
there's
a
significant.
B
A
Group
of
other
providers
that.
B
Is
accurate,
the
the
the
conversations
and
meetings
that
the
mayor
and
I
have
attended
and
some
of
the
others
as
well
on
the
council?
There
are,
there
are
essentially
four
stages
of
of
the
mental
health
assistance.
That's
needed,
and
the
city
is
involved
in
the
very
first
two,
which
is
the
calls
that
come
in
that
that
could
be
a
9-1-1
call.
It
could
be
a
call
from
a
crisis
center
call
that
gets
transferred
to
our
911..
B
That's
the
first
phase.
The
second
phase
is
actual
response
out
to
the
site.
That's
our
mobile
crisis
unit.
We
now
have
two
and
we'll
likely
have
three
here
fairly
soon
and
the
use
of
the
contract
with
broad
lawns
in
that
second
phase
in
the
mobile
crisis
unit.
So
they,
the
police
and
the
mobile
crisis
unit
clinicians,
are
able
to
respond
together.
B
We're
looking
at
the
opportunity
to
send
that
unit
out
when
there
is
no
safety
aspect,
that's
necessary,
such
that
the
police
actually
don't
have
to
always
respond
within
those
calls.
Those
are
the
first
two
phases
and
then
what
the
mayor
is
talking
about
is
that
there
is
a
third
and
a
fourth
phase
of
the
mental
health
that
is
the
cooling
station
they
need.
They
need
a
location
to
bring
the
individual
and
possibly
family
members
to
to
cool
down
and
and
to
get
some
clinician
assistance
and
then
a
long-term
care
program.
B
Is
that
fourth
phase?
So
we
really
do
need
to
group
the
mayor
as
mentioned
step
up
in
the
third
and
fourth
phase,
those
are
not
city
type
functions.
We
have
zero
resources
and
staff
dedicated
to
the
actual
mental
health
care
after
they've
been
brought
into
a
facility.
So
we
really
do
need
our
non-profit
partners
to
to
pick
up
the
pace
on
their
third
and
fourth
phases.
Of
that
those
needs
is
that
what
you're.
F
The
other
thing
is
still
working
on
the
sobering
center
and
where
that
would
go
with
polk
county.
That
wants
people,
because
we
would
pick
them
up
and
it
would
be
county-wide
then
then,
to
take
if
you're,
high
or,
if
you're,
drunk
or
someplace
to
go.
So
you
don't
have
to
go
to
jail
but
to
see
about
getting
him
treatment
from
that
angle.
Forward.
G
C
C
The
budget
debt
management
is
just
kind
of
a
overview
of
kind
of
talking
through
where
we
sit
today,
as
we
start
through
the
budget
process
and
kind
of
some
of
the
different
topics
that
we
look
at
and
what
kind
of
setting
the
stage
for
before
we
kind
of
go
through
and
and
determine
what
gets
added
and
how
we
approach
our
cip
budget
this
coming
year,
the
capital
improvement
plan
program,
some
of
the
different
things
I
wanted
to
touch
base
with
you
guys
today,
is
dealing
with
our
the
state
debt
limit.
C
What
what
we're
required
to
stay
within
at
the
state
level
and
then
what
the
council
policy
is
at
this
point
in
time,
then
it
kind
of
give
you
a
history
of
of
bonds
that
we've
issued
over
the
how
many,
how
many
we've
issued
over
the
last
several
years
to
kind
of
give
you
perspective
as
to
how
much
we're
issuing
now
versus
maybe
seven
years
ago,
as
well
as
kind
of
show
you
what
was
in
the
last
capital
improvement
plan
of
what
we
are
going
to
be
continuing,
that
large
current
plan
that
we
have
and
then
what
we
have
modeled
for
our
long-term
bond
issuances
going
forward,
and
what
that
bond
rating
discussion
that
we
had
from
our
last
bond
issue
that
we
just
closed
last
month
from
a
state
debt
limit
requirement.
C
It
is
5
of
the
hundred
percent
total
valuation.
What
that
means
is
not
the
taxable
piece,
it's
actually
the
total
valuation
that
that
limit
is
set.
As
so,
in
recent
years,
there's
there's
been
a
a
a
change
in
on
the
different
rollbacks
when
you've
got
the
the
90
on
the
commercial
industrial,
that
kind
of
changed
it.
C
The
conversation
to
where
that
number
that
limit
is
about
the
same
and
it
the
differentiation
between
the
total
valuation
and
the
taxable
is
quite
a
bit
different
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
C
The
council
policy
that
that
the
council
has
approved,
as
actually
utilizing
80
of
the
state
debt
debt
limit
and
when
we
look
at
this
we've
we've
come
close
to
that
in
the
past
and
with
our
current
with
our
current
plan,
we'll
get
into
kind
of
where
we
see
that
we
do
look
at
valuations
each
year
and
that
percentage
is.
We
have
to
kind
of
watch
that,
because
we're
getting
closer
and
closer
in
our
our
projection
of
being
over
that
80.
C
So
we'll
have
to
look
at
that
going
forward
to
make
sure
we
stay
within
that
or
adjust
that
policy.
If
needs
be.
If
it's
worth
that
the
projects
that
we
have.
C
Yes,
that's
what
the
council
yep
that's
what
the
council
has
has
set,
as
as
a
limit
to
give
you
example
of
what
we
have
currently
so
for
the
the
most
completed
fiscal
year
audited
fiscal
year
was
2020,
and
so
this
kind
of
puts
it
in
perspective.
We've
got
14.3
billion
of
total
valuation
within
within
des
moines.
That
puts
a
a
limit
of
716..
C
So
think
of
that.
As
like
your
your
credit
card
limit,
that's
the
most.
You
can
borrow
at
the
state
level
when
you
take
that
in
consideration
for
what
for
what
we
actually
had
issued
for
for
general
obligation,
bonds
and
then
what
other
debt
we
have
that
is
subject
to
that
limit.
We
still
had
technically
another
204
that
we
could
issue
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year.
2020.
we
did
when
we
get
into
the
history
of
issuance.
C
You
can
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
we
have
some
very
large
issues
that
we
just
did.
That
is
going
to
be
taking
away
some
of
that
funds.
As
of
the
fiscal
year
2020,
we
did
use
almost
72
percent
of
our
legal
debt
and
limit.
So
we
were
at
that
70
mark
at
that
point
and
I
think
we're
we're
gradually
moving
up
in
that
percentage.
A
A
I
remember
years
ago,
prior
to
scott
and
prior
to
rick
clark
being
here
that
previous
city
manager
we
used
to
be
at
60.
He
moved
it
to
70.
and
popped
that
up
very
quickly
and
then
moved
it
to
80.,
and
so
I
am
always
concerned,
as
we
begin
to
inch
closer
and
closer
to
that
80.
A
C
And-
and
that
is
one
we
always
try
to
watch
out
for
what
percentage
we're
sitting
at
and
what
we,
depending
what
we've
seen
as
a
valuation
growth
in
this
next
year.
That
will
affect
these
numbers
that
are
in
this
presentation.
C
But
we
don't
know
what
the
official
evaluation
is
at
this
point,
but
indications
are
kind
of
that.
It's
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
we
originally
anticipated,
and
so
what
these
numbers
are
are
based
off
of
what
the
the
known
values
as
of
last
march,
when
we,
when
we
approve
the
budget.
So
when
we
get
into
this
next
slide,
we
are
going
to
be
north
of
of
that
80
on
our
in
our
projection,
but
the
valuations
will
come
into
play
first
before
it
it'll
actually
be
that
full
utilization.
C
We
are
at
a
at
a
very
high
capital
improvement
plan
that
is
backed
by
by
debt
service,
and
that
is
what
the
driver
is.
When
we
go
through
these,
the
the
issue,
history
of
bond
issuances,
we
were
on
an
annual
basis
issuing
somewhere
between
25
and
35
million
a
year.
This
last
this
last
issuance
that
we
just
did
the
21,
f
and
g.
It
was
over
90..
C
C
C
C
You're
issuing
a
new
debt
to
pay
off
old
debt
for
a
better
interest
rate,
and
so
the
the
amount
on
the
left
column
are
our
new
issuances
that
we
have
and-
and
you
can
kind
of
see
that
it
was
in
that
25,
which
is
where
that
14
c
and
d
was
a
little
over
25
and
and
it
kind
of
creeps
up
and
the
larger
ones
that
we
we
are
seeing
is
in
in
the
2018
kind
of
started,
with
a
with
the
45
and
then
64
and
84,
and
now
for
the
different
issuances.
C
C
It
starts
tapering
down.
I
think
this
was
the
last
issuance
of
the
larger
dollar
amount.
Now
it
starts
kind
of
going
down
by
a
couple
million,
and
then
it
goes
several
which
we
can
go
into.
I
think
it's
the
next
slide,
so
we
have
91,
which
is
a
a
lower
tick
down,
because
that
last
issuance
that
we
had
there
were
some
bomb
premiums
in
there
as
well.
So
you
technically
had
pro
project
funding
that
we
didn't
act.
C
We
were
able
to
issue
less
bonds
than
we
needed
because
of
the
the
discount
that
came
in
so
in
theory.
This
is
about
9
million
less
than
what
we
needed
for
funding
last
year,
and
then
it
goes
down
again
about
another
10,
and
then
it
drops
down
quite
a
bit
that
20
million
and
then
another
15.
L
C
C
So
our
assumptions
we
we
have
different
valuation
assumptions
and
what
we
believe.
G
D
C
C
G
C
Yep
and
then
the
other
aspect,
too,
is
the
conversations
that
finance
and
and
scott
has
about
you
know-
is
there
a
need
for
a
more
pull
off
the
local
option,
sales
tax
to
avoid
the
levy
increase
as
well
in
in
the
future.
C
C
Or
or
we
could
take
out
projects
yep,
but
so
this
is
what
we
currently
have.
What
was
was
approved
in
last
march
of
what
we
planned
for
for
geo
bonds
being
issued
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
fixed
school
years.
This
goes
through
the
20
20
26
fiscal
year,
because
we
issue
in
july
or
july
august
is
usually
a
time
frame
of
when
we
issue,
so
it's
the
next
fiscal
year.
C
G
C
Consistently
it
it
does,
and
with
that
that's
why
we're
we're
we're
trying
to
evaluate
the
the
change
in
the
assessment
value.
We
look
at
this
every
year,
and
this
is
one
where
the
because
we
we
did
the
asset
match
as
well.
A
lot
of
our
debt
is
dropping
off
within
five
ten
years,
whereas
in
the
past
it
used
to
be
a
flat
level,
20.
C
we're
doing
a
asset
match
where
we
go
through
all
of
our
projects
and
and
adjust
that
that
started
in
the
2019
issuances
that
we
did
and
so
we're
seeing
the
the
the
uptick
and
then
the
downtick
within
this
current
cip
plane
that
was
approved
in
march.
C
C
A
C
G
C
B
A
C
Yes,
working
with
pfm,
we
we
have
their
their
their
knowledge
of
what
they
think.
The
market
rate
is
going
to
be
looking
like
for
interest
rates
and
that's
what
we
program
in
as
our
interest
rate
assumptions.
B
But
what
we
have
found
most
recently
is
we
have
added
special
projects
to
the
capital
improvement
plan
that
has
taken
it
well
above
that
amount,
and
so
this
is
a
question
of
being
able
to
maintain
the
categories
that
you
see
here
with
the
annual
necessary
amounts
that
get
us
to
30
million
and
then
limiting
ourselves
to
five
six,
maybe
eight
million
dollars
of
other
special
projects
to
to
that
amount
and
then
utilizing
sales
tax
as
the
avoidance
beyond
that.
So
then,
you
can
start
to
understand
flourishing
35
38
million
dollars
a
year
in
bonds.
B
D
C
Are
some
of
the
ones
that
we
some
upcoming
unfunded
projects
that
we're
trying
to
work
within
the
the
cip
that
have
not
been
that
we've
always
kind
of
worked
through?
And
this
is
the
stuff
that's
on
the
on
the
radar
for
us
to
look
at
for
the
current
cip
and,
as
you
can
kind
of
say,
it's
it's
tough
to
shuffle
these
in
at
this
point,
but
we're
we're
trying
to
figure
out
our
best
approach
with
some
of
these
significant
street
rebuilds
and
replacements
that
that's
been
something
that
we
added
a
lot.
C
That's
kind
of
a
big
contribution
of
what
went
higher
and
then
we've
got.
City
facility
needs
the
soccer
expansion,
principal
park,
birdland
marina
and
I
central
iowa
trails,
the
city
infrastructure
that
we
have
to
work
through
as
well.
For
that
those
projects.
G
G
B
I
I
I
A
Well,
they
also
said
that
it
would
be
scott
and
center
street
would
all
be
complete
in
five
years.
I
I
didn't
hear
that
that's
what
they
said.
I
knew
that
they
would
have
the
money
to
do
it
in
five
years.
I
think
they
would
like
to
have
it
complete,
so
yeah.
We
have
to
be
prepared
within
five
years
to
make
improvements,
okay,
and
that
is
where
the
where
the
revenue
would
be
generated
once
center
street
is,
is
done.
F
I
D
I
D
B
D
B
The
the
revenue
is
is
for
maintenance
of
the
downtown
sites
and
the
additional
operations
that
they're
they're
putting
into
play.
So
it.
G
And
then,
where,
where
is
I
mean,
the
sidewalks
somewhere
in
that
street
rebuild
and
replacement
or
sidewalk
dollars.
K
C
G
G
G
C
And
as
as
the
mayor
kind
of
talked
about
our
last
bond
rating,
the
s
p
rating
that
that
was
issued
in
august,
the
16th-
this
is
a
verbage
out
of
out
of
their
our
credit.
What
I
was
trying
to
highlight
there
is
the
debt
service
carrying
charges
are
approaching.
High
levels
should
planned
additional
debt
materially
weaken
over
its
credit
profile.
C
We
would
lower
the
rating-
and,
just
as
you
were
talking
about
mayor
the
in
if
we
do
get
a
lower
rating,
that
means
that
it's
going
to
cost
us
more
in
interest
as
well.
So
we
are
very
conscientious
of
that
as
well
and
they
they've
they.
They
pointed
out
to
us
in
the
last
couple
of
times
our
bond
rating
is,
you
know,
price
approaching
high
levels,
and
so
we
have
to
be
very
cognizant
of
that,
so
that
we
can
keep.
C
C
That's
why
we
are
when
we
go
through
the
conversations
with
s
p
and
the
rating
agencies.
When
we
do
this,
they
they
saw
that
we
had
a
higher
level,
but
they
saw
our
are
down
ticking
as
well
in
our
cip
plan.
So
they
are
aware
of
what
our
current
cip
plan
shows
and
where
we
intend
to
go.
C
Any
other
questions
on
bonds
in
our
debt
management
as
we
go
into
the
debt
go
into
the
budget
cycle,
where
we're
kind
of
setting
that
stage
so
that
you
know
what
we're
looking
at.
What
we're
working
on
with
the
budget.
B
No
updates
from
treasury
on
the
language
and
the
flexibility
that
we've
requested.
However,
we
have
done
some
reporting
and
gotten.
We
are
now
comfortable
between
finance
and
myself
and
coming
to
council
here
real
soon,
with
a
first
small
allocation,
when
I
say
small
12
to
15
million
of
those
funds
that
we
are
confident
based
on
the
existing
rules
can
be
utilized
for
governmental
purposes
or
I
think
it's
the
term.
They.
H
C
C
Yeah
there
was
other
there
were
other
entities
that
had
very
similar
language
that
we
submitted
during
the
comment
process,
and
so
it's
it's
not
just
us
that
has
that
question,
but
they
did
open
up
another
window
of
comments
at
this
point
where
they're
asking
for
federal
agencies
and
citizens
to
comment
now
as
well,
not
just
the
entities
that
were
affected.
D
I
As
we
talk
about
spending
those
dollars,
I
know
the
county's
had
some
public
forums
or
public
workshops.
Do
you
see
us
doing
the
the
same
thing
and
seeing
what
the
residents
would
like
it
to
be
spent
on
before
we
before
we
act
on
it
and.
C
I
think
we're
going
to
incorporate
that
with
the
the
budget
web
webinar
that
we
did
last
year
in
december.
Doing
that
as
one
of
the
big
components
of
that.
C
B
Mayor,
I
do
have
one
other
item.
If
I
can
just
real
quickly,
it
was
asked
about
our
october
27th
council
work
session.
We
do
have
a
full
day
scheduled
for
for
that.
Just
real
quick.
I
can
give
a
rundown
on
what
that's
anticipated
to
be
for
topics
we
have
nfc
coming
in
to
give
an
update
as
well
as
invest
dsm,
so
they'll
be
giving
us
updates
and
then
it'll
roll
right
into
the
conversation
we
just
had
this
morning
on
neighborhood
grants
for
the
entire
city
to
give
you
an
update
on
those
projects.
B
D
J
B
Actually
very
dramatic
reductions
in
the
des
moines,
the
tax
rate
that
the
school
district
is
experiencing.
So
there's
some
good
news
within
that,
but
it
also
brings
forward
some
challenges
when
it
comes
to
tiff.
We
have
the
economic
development
strategies,
discussion
that
was
asked
by
the
council
to
look
at.
How
would
we
even
go
about
more
proactive
economic
development
instead
of
simply
looking
at
more
what
comes
in
from
developers
and
and
from
tif
districts
that
already
exist?
B
We
have
performance
measures
that
we'll
be
talking
about
and
civil
service
process,
the
vision,
zero
concept
and
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
there
and
then.
Lastly,
we
have
the
youth
advisory
board
through
the
civil
and
human
rights
commission
that
will
come
in
at
the
end
of
that
afternoon,
so
where
we
have
typically
maybe
run
early
and
gotten
out.
I
do
ask
that
council
be
prepared
to
to
stick
in
here
until
probably
the
four
o'clock
range
at
the
end
of
that
day,
if
you
would
so.
K
B
Yeah
we'll
have
the
preparers
ready
to
be
available
in
case
we're
running
a
few
minutes
early
as
well.