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From YouTube: 12-16-21 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, Dec. 16, 2021.
A
Wilson
douglas
the
director
of
the
development
services
department
and
start
off
your
5
30
session.
This
evening
I
have
the
great
honor
of
introducing
chris
shires
with
confluence,
who
has
worked
on
the
south
of
greece
lake
master
plan.
I
think
all
of
you
may
have
been
at
the
session
in
july,
where
we
reviewed
the
planning
work
that
was
underway
at
that
point.
So
this
is
the
culmination
of
that
effort
and
just
to
remind
you,
this
is
a
small
section
of
a
large,
a
small
but
mighty.
A
B
Well,
good
evening
again,
I'm
christopher
shyerson,
with
confluence
here
in
our
des
moines
office,
also
have
with
us
tonight
abby
hebbard
who's,
going
to
run
through
part
of
the
presentation
as
well.
What
we
want
to
do
is
just
present
a
reminder
of
the
project.
What
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
our
schedule,
then
we
want
to
walk
through
all
the
public
input
stakeholder
feedback
we
received,
then.
B
B
The
purpose
of
this
plan
was
to
get
ahead
of
the
development
curve.
We
do
see
this
as
that
next
logical
development
area.
At
some
point
in
the
future,
there
will
be
development
and
redevelopment
pressure
in
this
area,
as
we're
already
witnessing
so
the
city
wants
to
get
ahead
of
understanding.
The
infrastructure
needs
for
this
area
specifically
and
to
get
an
idea
of
maybe
how
best
it
could
be
redeveloped
again.
This
is
a
a
plan
for
the
future
to
help
get
the
property
owners
area
stakeholders
excited
about
it.
B
It's
not
meant
to
be
heavy-handed
and
to
force
anything.
We
look
at
this
master
planning
process
as
a
partnership,
so
anything
that
will
happen
will
be
in
partnership
with
the
property
owners,
not
something
that
the
city
is
separately.
Undertaking
process
was
a
little
more
than
a
year
long
and
now
we're
at
the
end
of
that
process,
going
through
the
final
adoption
step,
and
so
we
had
an
advisory
committee
that
helped
steer
the
process.
B
D
So,
as
chris
said,
I
just
wanted
to
come
up
here
and
explain
some
of
the
public
input
that
we
received
both
in
person
and
from
the
website,
so
the
in-person
portion
was
held
july
28th
at
the
fred
maytag
scout
center.
It
was
about
we
had
about
90
to
100
attendees
come
out
for
it,
which
is
really
encouraging
to
us
to
see
such
positive
feedback
and
turnout.
D
At
the
event,
we
had
three
different
sets
of
boards
for
the
attendees
to
see
so
the
existing
conditions
of
the
site,
just
really
make
will
get
them
acquainted
with
what
the
current
land
uses
are
and
what's
happening
on
the
site.
Some
precedent
imagery
to
really
kind
of
set
the
scene
for
what
we
had
envisioned
within
the
master
plan.
D
So
we
encourage
the
attendees
to
really
interact
with
the
boards
leave
comments
on
them
to
tell
us
what
they
liked
what
they
didn't
like,
and
so
from
that
we
kind
of
noted
some
key
points.
They
would
really
like
to
see
the
retention
of
confluence
brewery
and
many
of
them
really
favored.
The
boardwalk
and
double
booner
features
within
the
scenarios
number
two
and
three.
D
They
really
preferred
mixed
use
options
over
having
purely
dedicated
residential
buildings.
They
really
didn't
feel
that
low
density,
single
family
residential
was
prefer
or
primed
for
this
location.
They
did
see
a
little
more
density
happening
here.
They
would
like
to
see
a
grocery
option
within
this
to
serve
the
local
neighborhood
and
the
residents
that
would
potentially
live
here.
They
also
said
that
a
lot
of
people
would
pay
a
lot
of
money
to
live
here,
just
because
of
its
proximity
to
grace
lake
in
downtown
and
then
also
the
proposed
amenities
within
the
area.
D
So
then
we
went
through
and
did
some
average
rankings
and
then
some
final
rankings
of
the
top
three
site
features
that
were
preferred
and
so
number
one
you'll
see
is
trail
connections.
Number
two
is
the
pedestrian
focused
streets
and
then
number
three
is
boardwalk.
So
again
you
see
that
highlight
feature
of
really
bringing
it
down
to
the
pedestrian
focus
within
the
development
and
really
encouraging
that,
throughout
all
of
the
scenarios,
then
again
they
had
the
opportunity
to
rank
the
three
scenarios
that
we
call
business
park.
Neighborhood
a
scenario,
one
main
street
neighborhood
of
scenario.
D
So,
from
the
common
three
from
the
comic
cards,
we
provided
some
general
themes
from
each
of
the
feedback
and
the
wants
and
desires
that
we
heard
again.
They
really
just
reiterated
the
desire
for
walkability
and
pedestrian
focus
within
this
area,
keeping
the
confluence
brewery
there.
It's
a
local
and
regional
hub
for
everybody,
both
bikers
and
pedestrians.
D
D
So
the
highlights
from
this
was
again
a
diver,
a
diversity
in
housing,
typologies
that
are
neither
single-family
developments
nor
high-rise
apartments.
So
more
of
those
town,
homes
and
row
houses
and
lower
density
are
lower,
lower
story
apartment
buildings.
Many
wanted
to
see
the
retention
of
confluence
brewery,
but
not
the
other
older
buildings
in
the
area.
They
felt
that
those
could
be
renovated
and
or
reimagined
in
a
different
way.
D
They
also
would
like
to
see
connections
to
and
from
lincoln
high
school
mcrae
park,
seeing
opportunities
for
the
pedestrian
in
there
to
really
highlight
shortened
connections
and
just
bring
that
back
to
them,
and
then
there
should
also
be
an
environmental
and
sustainable
focus
that
embraces
south
of
gray's
lake
to
the
north.
There's
a
many
des
moines
people
or
residents
hold
grey's
lake
close
to
their
heart,
and
so
they
really
just
want
to
keep
that
as
a
precious
and
valuable
feature.
D
Then
they
would
also
like
to
see
the
double
booner
from
boardwalk
happen,
just
really
creating
that
walkable
and
develop
walkable
and
bikeable
development,
and
then,
lastly,
really
putting
a
focus
on
the
gathering
spaces
that
would
allow
for
social
events
and
programming
opportunities,
so
putting
all
these
putting
all
the
input
and
summary
feedback
back
together.
You
would
see
that
from
scenario
three
they
were
prefer.
It
was
the
most
preferred
concept
of
the
features
that
were
there.
They
really
really
preferred
the
double
vooner.
D
If
that
was
in
there,
they
would
really
like
to
link
back
the
neighborhood
to
natural
environment
and
recreational
amenities
really
connecting
it
to
south
of
grace
lake,
not
having
it
be.
A
stand-alone
feature
preferred
that
they
would
that
there
was
pedestrian-oriented
development.
They
would
really
like
to
see
increased
connections
crossing
to
the
river
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists.
B
Abby,
thank
you
very
much
and
just
be
clear:
we're
not
trying
to
make
an
advertisement
for
a
confluence
brewery.
We
do
not
have
any
kind
of
financial
connection
with
them
at
all,
they're,
just
beloved
by
the
the
neighborhood.
So
there
you
go
so
with
all
that
input.
We
came
back
with
a
refined
master
plan
where
we
looked
at
land
uses,
as
well
as
concepts
for
building
placement,
road
alignments,
open
spaces,
storm
water
management
retention
ponds
and
the
like,
and
buildings
that
possibly
can
can
be
preserved
in
the
short
and
long
term.
B
Again.
I
just
want
to
reiterate,
because
we're
very
careful
through
the
process
meeting
with
our
stakeholders.
This
is
not
to
tell
a
property
owner.
You
have
to
knock
down
your
building.
Do
it.
We
say
this
is
a
guide
to
help
get
people
excited
for
the
future
and
how
this
area
can
develop
out
over
time
ever.
Anything
that
would
happen
here
would
be
in
partnership
with
the
property
owners,
building
owners
and
the
city.
B
So,
let's
start
on
the
the
left-hand
side
of
the
screen
with
north
is
up.
You
have
fluid
drive
on
the
left
side,
so
we
show
you
know
we
can
preserve
that
iowa
finance
authority
building.
I
know
they're
going
through
a
master
planning
process
or
will
be,
but
then
tucked
around
it.
We
have
opportunities
for
additional
multi-family
residential
to
the
north
into
its
east,
with
a
large
storm
water
retention
pond
right
in
the
middle.
B
We
have
worked
on
a
concept
for
a
storm
water
treatment
facility
in
the
form
of
a
wetland
area
with
additional
bike
trail
locations,
and
so
all
the
development
is,
of
course,
staying
on
the
private
property
outside
the
lake,
the
park
site,
but
really
these
opportunities
to
have
some
nice
interaction
in
the
middle
of
the
property.
Those
buildings
in
blue
in
purple
are
a
mixed
use,
type
concept,
so
first
floor,
retail
upper
floors,
office
and
residential
served
by
kind
of
focusing
that
parking
internally
with
that
park.
B
Once
mindset
you
come
to
the
site,
you
park
your
car,
then
you
circulate
with
the
sidewalks
and
trails
and
we
had
kind
of
that
backbone
of
the
road
network
through
there
is
what
we
call
a
double
wound
and
so
we're
using
a
fancy
term
for
a
street.
That's
designed
more
for
the
biker
and
the
pedestrian
than
the
car,
although
a
car
can
run
run
through
it.
B
In
this
case,
it's
extra
wide,
allowing
greater
public
gathering
space
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
whole
thing
to
help
buffer
and
transition
our
neighbors
to
the
south
of
thomas
beck.
We
do
show
the
concept
in
yellow
with
some
town
homes,
row,
house
type
development
and
preserving
that
slope
and
those
heirloom
oak
trees
on
that
hillside
as
a
way
to
kind
of
buffer
and
keep
the
area.
B
What
you're
already
seeing
is
some
development
interest
in
town
home
row
house,
maybe
some
multi-family
development
and
before
I
jump
and
show
the
the
video.
The
report
to
the
city
also
includes
some
infrastructure
recommendations
related
to
general
street
improvements.
Some
sanitary
sewer
improvement
needs
and
some
monitoring
or
some
master
planning
related
to
water
main
service.
In
the
area,
something
that
we
can
stay
ahead
of
to
manage
as
development
interest
continues
in
the
area.
B
Oh,
I
guess
I
should
show
my
pictures
first
before
I
show
the
fly-through
video
so
again,
these
are
images
are
included
in
the
report
to
try
to
pique
that
interest
and
explain
what
we
mean
by
the
different
development
concepts.
So
this
is
showing
that
very
pedestrian,
friendly
travel
paths
and
roadways.
B
The
types
of
different
mixed
use,
developments
that
may
be
a
little
more
trail
oriented
some
of
that
medium
density,
town,
home
row,
house
development,
some
of
that
higher
density
development
that
we
can
maybe
have,
at
the
east
end
of
the
property
closer
to
floor
again,
some
more
mixed-use
concepts
and
that
boardwalk
concept
along
gray's
lake
park.
That
was
of
great
interest.
B
Those
building
colors
still
mean
something
with
the
brown
being
typically
in
apartments,
multi-family,
the
purple
being
mixed
use,
commercial
office,
residential
and
the
yellow,
being
a
town
home
row
house
product
and
then
those
white
buildings
are
buildings
that
are
there
today.
The
iowa
finance
authority
and
then
the
pomerantz
industrial
building,
so
as
we're
looking,
you
see,
fleur
drive
kind
of
angling
to
the
north
or
to
the
up
and
a
little
bit
to
the
left.
That's
floor.
We're
generally
looking
back
towards
downtown
and
I
will
start
the
video.
B
B
B
B
G
B
So
on
this
screen,
so
we're
looking
kind
of
at
an
angle
towards
downtown
generally
north
in
the
parks
to
the
north
end
of
the
development,
the
first
white
building
kind
of
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
That's
iowa
finance
authority
building
and
then,
as
we
head
east,
and
follow
the
curve
of
thomas
beck
around
that
next
white
building
on
the
north
side
of
thomas
back
between
thomas
beck
and
the
lake,
that
is,
the
pomerantz
industrial
building.
There's
a
lot
of
different
tenants
in
it
and
confluence
is
basically
the
eastern
third
of
that
building.
B
Oh
and
so
now
on
the
south
side
here,
let
me
let
me
flip
back
to
a
more
planned
view
of
this
hold
on
here
yeah.
So
I'm
now
I'm
trying
to
remember
which
one
is
the.
Are
you
talking
the
industrial
shipper
on
the
south
side
of
thomas
beck
yeah?
So
in
this
scenario,
that's
where
I
can
I
make
a
mouse
show
up.
B
No,
I
can
almost
there
we
go
they're
right
about
here,
and
so
that
would
be,
the
concept
is,
is
in
discussion
and
review
is
maybe
industrial
is
not
the
highest
and
best
long-term
use.
Can
we
see
those
sites?
You
know
when
that
property
is
ready,
redevelop
into
something
else
like
much
needed
residential.
I
I
have
a
question
please
about
when
we
had
the
urban
design
and
pnz
meeting
back
in
july.
There
was
a
consensus
sort
of,
as
I
recall,
in
terms
of
one
two
and
three,
the
scenarios.
I've
forgotten,
which
one
was
the
consensus
and
how
does
that
blend
in
with
what
you
were
suggesting
in
this
master
plan?.
B
So
if
memory
serves
there,
there
was
a
a
lie:
a
real
desire
to
preserve
some
of
the
view
corridors
and
that
we're
kind
of
have
a
bit
of
a
town
square
that
it's
the
urban.
It
might
have
been
the
urban
green
that
was
most
popular.
So
what
we
really
focused
in
on
was
beefing
up
this
corridor.
This
roadway
in
this
is
what
we're
kind
of
coining
the
double
woon
earth.
It's
just
a
widened
boulevard
road
that
has
a
lot
of
room
for
pedestrians
and
bikes.
B
B
That
was
our
our
attempt
to
kind
of
meet.
What
we
thought
were
some
of
your
interest,
as
well
as
the
preservation
of
some
lower
density
residential
along
thomas
beck
to
help
buffer
and
shield
our
neighbors
to
the
south,
and
then
we
took
a
little
bit
farther
and
said
hey
as
long
as
we're
doing
that.
Why
don't
we
preserve
that
that
hillside
that
slope
there
and
some
of
those
heirloom
oaks.
I
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I,
I
would
agree
with
you
completely
it's.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
really
help,
dress
up
and
enhance
that
that
drive
along
floor,
we're
coming
out
of
the
airport,
we're
visiting
town
and
then
we're
coming
in
and
seeing
some
some
nice
development
and
then
you're
right.
There's
the
lake
same
thing
from
if
you're
headed
southbound
on
floor,
it's
a
nice
in
our
mind,
a
backdrop
and
trying
to
split
the
two
different
interests.
B
F
Christopher
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
have
a
question
about
this.
The
parking
on
the
north
east
side
currently
there's
a
parking
area
right
next
to
the
park,
which
I
can
tell
you
about
my
own
experience
because
I
live
in
this
area.
It's
always
empty,
so
I
do
see
that
some
of
this,
especially
for
the
existing
industrial
building,
you're
replacing
some
of
that
current
parking
with
some
buildings,
some
additional
green
space.
But
what
was
the
need
for
this
specific
area?
B
And
you're
talking
this
area
here
that
I'm
circling
yeah,
and
so
that
is
a
carryover
from
the
existing
graze
lake
park
master
plan,
and
so
we
wanted
to
show
what
that
grey's
lake
master
plan
shows
today
and
and
show
it
on
this
site.
So
we
could
see
everything
in
context
just
like
that:
gray's
lake
park
master
plan
envisioned
additional
trails
and
some
type
of
a
wetland
treatment
area.
B
You
know
on
that.
That's
that
northern
or
that
southern
boundary
of
the
park-
and
so
it
wasn't
something
that
we
developed
as
a
part
of
this
plan.
We
were
just
showing
it
from
that
other
plan
and
I
think
it
the
intent
of
that
parking.
If
I
remember
back
from
the
graves
lake
park,
master
plan
was
parking
for
the
park.
K
Turn
on
the
mic,
please,
let
me
know
if
you
can't
hear
welcome
to
the
city
plan
and
zoning
commission
meeting.
I
will
review
the
plan
and
zoning
commission
rules
and
procedures.
The
plan
and
zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plaques.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
K
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
development
services
department
staff
for
details
on
council
hearings.
Applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
K
K
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval,
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report.
Unless
an
individual
present
or
a
member
of
the
commission
requests
that
the
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
hearing
agenda.
K
Thank
you,
okay,
I'll
read
through
the
consent,
public
hearing
items
item
number
one
is
a
city
initiated
request
to
amend
the
plan
dsm,
creating
our
tomorrow
plan
to
adopt
the
south
of
gray's
lake
master
plan
as
an
element.
So
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
have
this
item
pulled
from
the
consent
portion.
K
Okay,
then,
that
will
move
too
public
item
number
two
is
request
from
drake
university
for
review
and
approval
of
the
following
for
property
located
in
the
vicinity
of
1236
24th
street,
a
determination
as
to
whether
requested
amendment
to
the
university
square
legacy.
Pud
and
rezoning
are,
in
conformance
with
planned,
dsm
b,
amend
the
university
square
legacy
pud
to
remove
approximately
0.56
acres,
to
be
rezoned
to
mx2
mixed
use,
district
and
c
rezoned
property
from
university
square
legacy,
pud
to
mx2
mixed-use
district
to
allow
development
of
a
mixed-use
project,
including
residential
and
commercial
uses.
K
Okay
item
two
remains
on
the
consent
agenda
item:
three:
is
a
city
initiated
request
for
vacation
of
a
remaining
east
to
west
alley
segment
to
the
west
of
6th
avenue
in
the
block
between
walnut
street
and
mulberry
street?
The
adjoining
properties
are
218
6th
avenue
to
the
north
606
walnut
street
to
the
west
and
206
sixth
avenue
to
the
south.
K
K
Item
number
four
is
request
from
iglesia
pentecostal
del
nombre
de
jesus
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan;
iglesia
pentecostal
parking
lot;
improvements
for
property
at
16258
street
and
for
a
type
2
design
alternative
to
waive
the
requirement
to
underground
existing
overhead
utility
lines.
So
anyone
here
who
wishes
to
have
this
pulled
from
consent.
K
K
L
K
N
N
N
So
this
plan
really
defines
what
is
possible
with
that
area
and,
as
you
saw
in
that
master
plan,
it
proposes
a
mix
of
a
downtown
or
a
mix
of
uses,
and
we
as
staff,
recommend
that
the
commission
find
the
master
plan
that
was
presented
to
be
compatible
with
the
plan
dsm.
So
we
have
recommended
approval
of
the
adoption
of
the
plan
dsm
as
an
element.
I'm
sorry
adoption
of
the
south
of
gray's
lake
master
plan
as
an
element
of
planned
dsm.
So
any
questions
for
me.
O
O
O
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
on
that
corner
to
be
really
bold,
with
a
really
sexy,
architecturally,
significant
building
that
when
you're
flying
over
fleur
and
you
hit
that
building,
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
really
make
a
statement.
So
I
I
I
thought,
maybe
genie
gang
out
of
chicago
who
does
great
buildings
would
be
a
great
architect
to
talk
to,
but
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
really
make
a
splash
and
really
say
something
about
that.
O
Neighborhood,
there's
also
an
awful
lot
of
parking
in
the
plan,
which
seems
a
little
horrifying
to
me,
especially
as
you
called
out
the
326
spots
for
the
park
when
that
lot,
whenever
I
ride
by
it
is
empty.
So
hopefully
that
will
not
come
to
be
and
the
the
the
parking
that's
associated
with
the
housing
just
seems
really
overdone
and
I
don't
think
there's
enough
landscape
island
showing
in
the
rendering.
O
But
I
think
this
is
also
an
opportunity
to
be
bold
on
electrification
and
it
would
be
awesome
if
we
drew
a
line
and
said
this
is
going
to
be
an
electric
village
and
everything
here
is
electrified
and
no
gas
and
really
position
it
as
sort
of
the
future
of
how
we're
going
to
live.
If
we
plan
on
saving
the
planet,
so
it
would
be
awesome
if
we
came
out
and
again
we're
bold
on
building
requirements
and
sustainability,
which
is
kind
of
mentioned
towards
the
end
of
the
document.
O
But
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
enough
piece
and
another
thing,
that's
sort
of
mentioned
as
an
aside
is
the
housing
type
in
that?
There's
a
forget.
The
word
you
use,
but
I
think
scattered,
site
low
to
moderate
income,
affordable
housing
is
really
important
and
accommodating
residents
of
all
income
levels
should
strongly
be
considered
and
required
to
the
point
that
developers
should
be
required
to
have
a
certain
percentage
of
their
housing,
be
quote,
unquote,
affordable
up
to
like
30
percent.
K
K
N
N
As
you
move
east
to
the
city
limits
and
the
city
limits
are
right,
where
my
masses
went
up
and
down
to
give
you
a
point
of
reference.
The
southeast
connector,
which
is
actually
also
known
as
east
martin
luther
king
junior
parkway,
that
is
currently
been
constructed
up
to
southeast
30th
street
and
the
city's
in
the
process
of
securing
the
funds
needed
to
continue
it
all
the
way
from
southeast
30th
street.
N
If
you
follow
my
mouse
along
this
line
here
and
it
would
connect
to
the
eastern
bypass,
which
is
highway
6569
in
pleasant
hill,
so
as
you
can
see
from
these
yellow
boundaries
what's
being
considered
for
rezoning
right
now,
some
of
the
parcels
are
in
close
proximity
to
the
proposed
earth
to
the
future.
I
think
it's
safe
to
call
it
future.
Instead
of
proposed
southeast
connector
roadway,
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
a
series
of
maps
right
now.
N
N
All
of
these
industrials
here
have
been.
The
comp
plan
has
been
amended
over
time
individually
for
each
of
these
as
part
of
rezonings.
That
have
been
done
like
most
recently,
we
had
the
pdm
rezoning
at
this
location
here
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
we
had
another
rezoning
here
on
behalf
of
pdm
and
then
we
had
helena
chemicals
and
then
some
warehouse
developments
here
to
the
south
that
have
needed
the
industrial
zoning.
N
Then
this
is
the
zoning
that
was
in
place
back
in
prior
to
2019
when
the
city
adopted
the
new
zoning
map.
So
you
can
see.
I
wish
I
had
a
way
to
overlay
the
boundaries,
but
the
areas
that
are
being
rezoned
here.
So
you
can
see
this
large
area
over
here
was
zoned
m2,
heavy
industrial
and
then
the
larger
areas
along
the
west
side
were
also
zoned
m2,
and
then
there
was
some
smaller
parcels
here
in
the
middle
they
were
actually
zoned,
m1
light
industrial
prior.
N
So
this
next
map
again
is
plan.
Dsm
is
the
land
use
plan
and
when
the
city
adopted,
the
new
zoning
map
in
2019
state
law
required
us
to
follow
plan
dsm
when
assigning
zoning
districts
to
all
of
the
parcels
and
since
plan
dsm
designated
these
this
area,
the
significant
area
here
as
business
park,
the
city
had
to
assign
the
ex
district
to
these,
which
is
more
of
a
business
park
district
than
an
industrial
district.
N
So
since
it
is
one
of
the
first
areas
that
people
are
going
to
see,
the
city
did
have
the
vision
of
having
it
be
more
of
a
business
park
environment
than
a
industrial
area,
and
so
again,
when
the
city
adopted
the
new
zoning
map,
we
had
to
follow
the
planned
dsm
land
use
designation.
So
you
can
see
how
on
this
map
here
this
is
the
current
zoning.
So
you
can
see
that
the
ex
district
generally
follows
the
business
park.
Designations.
N
N
This
map,
here
at
the
end
of
the
staff
recommendation,
is
really
the
best
representation
of
our
staff
report.
Again.
This
blue
line
here
represents
the
future
southeast
connector
roadway,
and
then
these
areas,
shaded
in
purple,
are
the
parcels
that
staff
recommends
remain.
These
remain
zoned
as
ex
and
then
what's
left
in.
Yellow
staff
is
supportive
of
all
of
those
being
rezoned
to
an
i2
heavy
and
yet
to
hide
to
heavy
industrial
district.
N
Our
recommendation
had
to
follow
parcel
boundaries
because
when
the
ordinances
are
drafted
for
the
rezonings,
we
need
a
legal
description
of
the
properties
that
are
being
rezoned,
and
it's
a
lot
simpler
to
have
the
legal
description
follow
existing
par
parcel
boundaries
rather
than
try
to
subdivide
or
split
zone
some
of
these
parcels.
So
for
those
reasons,
we've
recommended
that
these
parcels
be
remain
as
ex.
N
Since
our
new
ordinances
that
took
effect
in
2019,
I
have
quite
a
few
site
plan
requirements
for
salvage
yards
and
for
other
heavy
industrial
uses.
So
everything
that's
there
today
is
really
considered
legal
non-conforming
and,
as
legal
non-conforming
uses,
they're
allowed
to
remain
as
they
are
in
perpetuity.
N
E
N
K
P
Thank
you,
madam
chairperson.
My
name
is
lou
hockenberg
6601,
west
ham,
parkway,
I'm
here
representing
the
two
property
owners
that
are
affected
by
this
sam's
riverside,
auto
parts,
inc
and
alviv
properties.
Llc.
The
principals
of
those
companies
are
also
here
tonight.
Alan
devont,
eric
galinski
andrew
golinski,.
P
Galinsky,
you
can
see
from
the
staff
report
that
which
entities
own
which
properties
in
question
all
these
properties,
18
of
them,
were
purchased
over
time
for
the
industrial
uses
and
the
values
that
industrial
use
provides
and
a
premium
was
paid
for
those
properties.
Due
to
these
features,
the
18
properties
have
a
conservative
aggregate
value
of
between
20
and
30
million
dollars.
P
P
P
P
P
P
Number
two
1511
southeast
42nd
street
and
800
southeast
32nd
had
been
used
as
a
salvage
yard
by
alviv
and
its
predecessors
for
many
years
they
were
purchased
as
a
salvage
yard
and
were
licensed
as
such,
and
a
premium
was
paid
for,
for
this
particular
use
number
three
under
the
proposed
rezoning.
These
five
properties
will
be
classified
as
legal
non-conforming
uses.
What
you
were
told
was,
even
though
the
uses
may
be
somewhat
expanded
within
rules
and
regulations.
P
If
there
were
damage
or
destruction
to
these
properties,
presumably
they
couldn't
do
any.
They
couldn't
re-establish
the
businesses
without
the
board
of
adjustment,
approval
and
restrictions
could
be
placed,
and,
of
course,
the
conditional
use
permit
would
have
to
be
obtained,
but
they
would
not
have
the
right
to
go
in
there
the
next
day
and
reopen
their
businesses.
They
would
be
basically
operating
at
the
mercy
of
the
planning
or
the
the
board
of
adjustment.
P
P
At
the
same
time,
the
city
is
attempting
to
buy
these
parcels
by
several
parcels
out
of
these
five
properties,
currently
at
this
time,
at
the
same
time,
they're
attempting
to
do
that,
they're
down
zoning,
the
property,
the
zoning
and
the
value
shrinks
so
on
one
hand
we're
losing
our
zoning.
On
the
other
hand,
we're
losing
a
lot
of
value
as
a
result
of
that,
there's
nothing
fair
about
that.
P
If
there
are
some
of
new
some
uses
that
are
particularly
obnoxious
to
the
city
that
we
can
live
with,
we'd
be
willing
to
talk
about
that,
but
just
to
straight
out
tell
us
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
commercial
mixed
use
property,
even
though
the
zoning
is
different
than
that,
and
even
though
we're
losing
hundreds
of
thousands
and
maybe
millions
of
dollars
of
value,
there's
got
to
be
a
better
way
to
handle
this.
We're
open
to
that.
F
P
F
P
K
J
Andrew
golinski
720
southeast
hawthorne
ridge
drive
waukee.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing:
you
had
a
question
to
lou
about
what
he
was
saying
on
the
five
parcels
we
would
be
open
to.
If
we
would
gain
back
our
original
industrial
zoning
that
we
would
make
concessions.
If
there's
certain
things
the
city
doesn't
want
on
those
five
parcels,
we
would
be
open
to
agreeing
to
that
that
that's.
I
just
wanted
to
clear
that
up.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
K
C
N
I
know
they
said
that
staff
didn't
reach
out
to
them
to
propose
any.
In
all
honesty,
we
knew
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
recommend
be
prohibited
would
be
the
salvage
yards
uses
just
because
they
are
right
along
the
southeast
connector.
So
we
knew
right
off
the
hand
that
they
wouldn't
agree
with
that,
because
that's
what
they
their
current
business
is
there.
N
N
And
what
they
were
saying
was
that
if
you
see
where
my
mouse
is
here,
everything
to
the
west
right
now
all
operates
as
a
single
business,
and
so
they're
saying
what
staff's
recommended
would
create
a
split
zoning
situation
where
half
of
their
use
would
be
zoned
i2
and
the
other
half
would
be
zoned
ex.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
they're
not
in
support
of
that
and
then
over
here
on
the
right
to
the
right
of
this
line.
N
G
N
The
i1
is
the
we
call
it
a
light.
Industrial
district
and
i2
is
heavy
industrial,
so
i1
allows
for
more
warehousing
and
like
transportation
term,
like
truck
terminals,
auto
body
repair
things
like
that,
then
i2
is
the
city's
most
recent
or
most
or
should
say
the
least
restrictive
district.
It
allows
pretty
much
anything
and
it's
just
anything
but
on.
F
What
we've
heard
from
the
property
owners
that
they're
willing
to
work
with
staff
on
some
of
the
the
uses
that
may
be
restricted,
as
well
as
the
current
use,
which
is
the
salvage
yard?
I
would
be
in
favor
of
continuing
this
item,
especially
since
it
was
city
initiated.
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
in
the
works
or
any
specific
project
that
we
need
to
move
this
forward
tonight.
E
F
F
K
K
Q
Good
evening,
jillian
summer,
with
city
planning
staff
item
number
six
is
in
regards
to
property
at
111
63rd
street,
for
review
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan.
They
are
requesting
two
type,
two
design
alternatives.
The
first
is
for
waiver
of
the
requirement
to
underground
of
the
existing
overhead
electric
overhead
utilities
and
the
second
type
2
design.
Alternative
request
is
to
waive
the
requirement
to
provide
sidewalk.
Q
O
Q
Along
63rd
street
63rd
street
is
designated
as
a
priority
two
street,
and
so
the
sidewalk
is
eligible
for
a
type
1
design
alternative.
However,
staff
was
not
supportive
of
allowing
that
to
be
waived
along
63rd
street.
There
are
five
properties
between
63rd
street
and
and
properties
to
the
south
that
don't
have
sidewalk
this
being
one
of
them.
Q
The
city
recently
did
a
pump
station
project
to
the
north
and
installed
a
good
chunk
of
sidewalk
along
here
to
the
north
and
to
the
south.
We
also
have
another
site
plan
in
process
where
that
applicant
would
be
proposing
sidewalk
as
well,
so
one
of
the
five
would
already
be
installing
sidewalks.
So
then,
there'd
only
be
four
remaining
properties
here,
without
sidewalk,
due
to
that
character
of
the
surrounding
area
and
the
fact
that
the
the
sidewalk
would
provide
pedestrian,
safe
pedestrian
access
along
this
corridor,
and
this
would
be
the
missing
link.
Q
Q
These
pictures
show
the
the
lines
along
63rd
street.
Those
are
transmission
lines
and
mid-american
has
indicated
that
those
are
are
not
lines
that
are
feasibly
undergrounded,
the
lines
that
go
into
the
site.
You
can
kind
of
see
them
here.
They
extend
into
a
pool
and
to
another
pole,
there's
a
bunch
of
transformers
here
and
lines
that
serve
the
building
as
well
as
the
building
to
the
south.
Q
The
overall
project
value
for
this
project
is
eleven
thousand
dollars
the
cost
to
underground
the
service
lines
into
the
building.
The
applicant
has
obtained
an
estimate
that
the
cost
would
be
12
000,
which
would
represent
109
of
the
total
project
cost
and
due
to
that,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
request
to
wave
undergrounding
of
the
existing
overheat
head
utilities.
Q
Q
I
Q
Q
Q
I
Q
K
C
F
H
K
R
So
the
the
overhead
issue,
I
think,
is
agreed
to
and
we're
happy
with
that
we're
not
opposed
to
putting
in
the
sidewalk
the
owner
would
just
like
you
know.
This
has
been
a
long
time
this
process,
since
he
got
his
conditional
use
approval
for
a
new
use
and
he's
been
waiting
to
make
some
interior
improvements
to
get
his
thing
going.
R
So
he
would
like
to
get
his
business
up
and
making
some
money
before
he
was
required
to
to
that's
about
1200
feet
of
sight
or
1200
square
feet
of
sidewalk,
which
is
gonna,
be
six
to
eight
thousand
dollars
to
put
in
probably
so
he
would
just
like
he's
not
opposed
to
that,
but
maybe
when
the
u-haul
starts
theirs,
if
that's
a
little
bit
down
the
road,
then
he
could
put
that
on
the
schedule
later
on.
But
you
know
just
not
be
required
to
do
it
right
now
as
part
of
the
process.
O
I
am
carole
maher
ward
3..
I
am
against
waving
the
sidewalk
requirement.
As
someone
who
personally
has
ridden
my
bike
to
those
retailers
along
63rd
coming
off
the
trail,
it
you
kind
of
have
to
go
cross
country
to
get
from
one
to
the
other
when
the
sidewalk
is
missing,
so
it
is
important
and
it
is
important
to
fill
in
those
gaps.
So
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
you
require
the
sidewalk
to
be
installed.
Thank
you.
F
F
Q
Q
G
Q
C
Q
F
K
Q
Q
Due
to
the
size
of
the
addition
and
to
comply
with
the
enlargement
and
expansion
requirements.
They
are
required
to
fully
comply
with
the
building
type
regulations
of
the
storefront
building,
as
well
as
full
site
compliance.
The
storefront
building
does
require
a
three-story
building,
so
existing
building
is
one
story.
Three
stories
is
required.
Q
They're
proposing
two
they've
done
analysis
on
the
on
the
foundations
and
the
feasibility
of
adding
a
third
story,
and
it
would
be
quite
costly
to
get
another
story
there.
So
the
applicant
is
only
proposing
two
stories
which
staff
is
supportive
of
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
it
looks
like
on
the
front.
Q
The
overall
project
value
for
this
project
is
three
million.
Ninety
thousand
and
there's
there's
a
few
different
pieces
of
this
of
the
cost,
so
we
try
to
put
it
into
a
table
just
so.
It's
more
easily
digestible,
there's
cost
associated
with
mid-american
portions
of
the
work
and
there's
private
costs
for
a
private
electrician
to
perform
pieces
in
order
for
the
buildings
to
be
able
to
receive
underground
utilities.
Q
Mid-American
has
indicated
that
along
ingersoll
avenue,
there's
approximately
40
000
of
work
directly
associated
with
the
lines
that
front
this
property.
However,
there
would
be
about
additional
60
000
worth
of
work
in
the
general
area,
just
to
make
it
work
with
with
guy
wires
and
and
making
the
actual
feasibility
of
of
the
work
to
underground
those
lines
along
ingersoll
private
costs
for
that
portion
of
the
work
would
be
44
732
and
again.
Q
That
would
be
in
order
for
the
building
to
be
able
to
receive
underground
utilities
for
the
north-south
lines,
the
mid-american
cost
for
their
portion
of
the
work
would
be
again
around
forty
thousand
dollars
and
the
private
cost
would
be
two
hundred
seven
thousand
dollars.
This
would
include
transformers.
It
would
also
include
lincoln
savings
bank
being
able
the
property
to
the
east
being
able
to
receive
lines
underground,
as
well
as
the
pinkvine
mansion,
which
is
the
property
to
the
south.
Q
Q
So
staff
would
be
recommending
that
the
applicant
provide
an
escrow
of
84
732,
that
the
city
would
utilize
when
they
implemented
that
ingersoll
streetscape.
In
order
to
underground
the
lines
with
that
streetscape,
we
didn't
think
we
thought
it
was
appropriate
to
assign
just
the
forty
thousand,
not
the
sixty
thousand
additional,
just
because
the
forty
thousand
is
most
directly
related
with
this
property,
whereas
the
60
000
is
really
the
broader
project,
so
that
84
000
represents
40
000
for
the
mid-american
cost,
as
well
as
44
732
of
the
private
cost.
H
Q
We
we
do
have
escrow
agreements
that
we
have
used.
I
think
when
the
the
reason
for
the
escrow
is
when
there
is
actually
a
proposed
project
that
feasibly
could
happen
in
the
future
that
the
city
could
actually
use
the
escrow
within
the
time
frame
of
the
escrow,
so
the
typical
time
frame
for
the
escrow
would
be
10
years.
Q
C
Q
C
Q
F
Q
They
we
recommended
the
same
exact
scenario
for
them
that
came
before
the
plan
and
zoning
commission
and
the
approval
was
for
them
to
write
an
escrow
agreement
as
well.
They
ended
up
asking
for
a
letter
of
credit
instead
of
an
escrow
which
is
another
similar
mechanism,
and
that
was
approved.
They
have
a
letter
of
credit
or
they're
supposed
to
have
a
letter
of
credit
for
62
000.
F
N
Just
to
clarify
johnny,
the
staff
recommendation
that
was
issued
on
friday
actually
would
have
cost
them.
Eighty
thousand,
because
we
were
saying
the
forty
thousand
dollar
escrow,
plus
spending
the
forty
thousand
to
bury
the
north
south
line,
so
it
would
have
sought
a
net
cost
to
them
of
80
000,
which
was
still
about
two
or
three
percent
of
their
three
million
dollar
project.
S
Good
evening,
I'm
carla
jones
weber,
I'm
with
the
community
foundation
of
greater
des
moines.
We
are
a
nonprofit
organization.
That's
served
des
moines
for
over
50
years
working
hard
to
improve
the
quality
of
life.
Here
in
our
community.
We
are
invested
in
our
community,
we
believe
in
being
good
corporate
citizens.
S
S
S
T
I
my
portion
is
a
little
brief
tonight,
but
just
wanted
to
speak
to
the
height
of
the
building
and
the
first
type
2
request
looks
like
we're
getting
close.
It's
flashing
blue
now.
So
what
we
added
now
we
got
a
light,
one
more
one,
more
step.
So
what
I
want
to
speak
to
tonight
is
mainly
just
the
other
projects
on
the
street.
T
T
Sure
sure
design
wise
we
wanted
to
kind
of
keep
the
step
maps
at
the
front
that
pair,
that
screening
is
actually
set
back,
pretty
significantly
kind
of
centered
in
the
roof.
So,
in
the
longer
views
of
our
site,
we're
not
going
to
see
you
mechanical,
but
our
preference
was
not
to
raise
up
that
parapet.
We
won't
see
that
screen
from
the
street.
U
It
takes
up
a
quite
considerable
amount
of
the
area
for
our
project
again
being
a
non-profit,
the
entire
project
is
funded
by
donations
from
the
community.
The
building
is
also
being
provided
for
community
and
nonprofit
organizations
for
use.
So
we
really
do
implore
you
all
to
consider
the
option
for
us
to
not
have
to
underground
those
wires.
U
U
So
not
the
tenure
that
we
heard
earlier
and
it's
contingent
on
the
western
property
for
them.
So
we
are
on
the
east
of
them
so
having
to
wait
for
an
additional
project
to
commence
for
that
to
actually
take
place.
We're
not
exactly
sure
if
that
will
happen,
also
putting
an
escrow
of
the
private
costs,
44
732
into
the
an
escrow
account
kind
of
concerned
us
as
manage
money,
quite
well
so
being
able
to,
if
needed,
to
provide
that
later
on.
We
don't
see
why
that
would
need
to
go
into
an
escrow
account.
K
C
S
K
D
K
F
E
I
I
E
U
Devin,
moody,
again
apologies.
I
thought
we
would
have
time
to
speak
after
the
deliberation.
One
of
my
questions
is
also
based
on
the
the
previous
agenda
that
was
done.
The
escrow
amount
was
only
the
40
000,
which
was
the
mid-m
amount.
So
if
there
was
a
waiver
with
an
escrow
amount,
we
would
request
it
be
the
40
000
just
for
mid-m
and
not
the
private
amount
as
well.