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From YouTube: 10-3-22 City Council work session
Description
Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, Oct. 3, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
B
Let
the
council
know
we
were
planning
to
follow
up
that
conversation
this
morning
with
a
further
discussion
with
our
own
Library
System,
who
are
able
to
assist
with
early
literacy
and
getting
those
third
grade
reader
scores
up
so
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
reschedule
Des,
Moines
schools
and
probably
have
the
library
actually
presented
that
same
conversation,
and
that
way
we
can
make
some
final
decisions
on
those
arpa
funds.
If
that's
okay
with
Council
and
we'll,
let
you
know
if
that
falls
on
our
next
Workshop
or
possibly
the
November
time
frame.
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A
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D
We
purchased
and
maintained
the
trucks
and
the
sprayer
equipment
we
set
thresholds
determine
when
to
spray.
We
ran
the
ground-based
Elvia,
Delta
side
control
with
seasonal
employees
and
City
staff.
We
maintain
the
records
for
the
EPA
and
state
review
mile
sprayed
chemicals
used
percent
of
chemicals
by
mile.
All
of
this
again
was
completed
with
paper
and
pencil.
D
D
D
It
decreased
the
time
to
treat
the
entire
city
from
what
used
to
be
two
weeks
to
a
turnaround
of
a
week
decrease
the
decrease
the
turnaround
time
when
there
was
a
positive
we
could
get
out
within
48
Hours
spray,
the
positive
area
of
the
city
and
reduce
the
amount
of
mosquitoes
in
that
area
immediately
and
then
turn
around
and
do
the
rest
of
the
city.
At
the
same
time,
it
improved
our
testing
and
treatment
of
standing
water.
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They
use
biogens
BG
counter.
It
has
a
4G
connection.
Our
equipment
didn't
have
this
capability,
it
counts
mosquitoes
with
a
90
accuracy
rate
and
it
differentiates
between
dust
particles
and
debris.
If
we
were
going
to
keep
the
program
in-house,
we
would
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
the
state-of-the-art
monitoring
equipment
that
we
didn't
have
here's
some
idea
of
the
the
count
data
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
in
great
detail.
Clark
is
here.
D
If
you
have
specific
questions
on
the
analysis
that
they
do
I'm
I'm
not
equipped
to
talk
to
that
in
great
detail,
they
use
gravity
traps
to
collect,
live
specimens
and
they
must
be
collected
and
then
sent
to
their
lab
for
testing.
Again,
we
didn't
have
this
state-of-the-art
grab
a
trap
we
would
have
had
to
and
through
our
collection
ability
on
that
level,
also
Laboratory
Testing
again
they're
collected
into
gravid
traps.
They
do
all
of
that
they
take
it
to
their
lab.
C
E
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F
D
Again,
here's
the
West
Nile
Virus
testing
data
when
it
when
we
got
a
positive
test
in
Beaverdale
area,
they
were
out
within
48
hours,
Spring
that
area
again
Sheridan
and
County.
Again
we
were
had
a
positive,
so
we
had
an
immediate
turnaround
where
they
could
get
out
and
spray
those
areas
and
knock
those
mosquitoes.
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Here
is
the
the
road
maps
we,
they
did
903
miles
per
treatment.
They
did
five
city-wide
treatments
in
this
year.
Again,
it's
an
automated
system
for
no
spray,
so
the
computer
actually
knows
when
to
turn
it
on
and
off.
It
knows
how
fast
the
truck
is
going
and
what
the
correct
mixture
of
the
spray
should
be
or
the
the
truck
got.
Moving
at
that
speed,
we
didn't
have
those
capabilities
in-house,
so
products
used
area
larvicide
again,
it's
active
ingredient
is
derived
from
naturally
occurring
soil
bacterium.
G
D
This
is
a
city-wide
program,
it's
not
yeah,
so
with
the
ground-based
ulv,
it's
also
site
control
controls
and
reduces
the
number
of
mosquitoes
that
can
spread
viruses.
They
spray
very
small
amounts
of
insecticide
into
the
air
to
kill
mosquitoes
spray
is
a
fine
Mist
that
clogs
the
area.
It
immediately
kills
flying
mosquitoes.
They
do
it
early
evening
when
the
mosquitoes
are
more
active
after
spraying,
they
they
track
mosquito
populations.
They
take
the
test
of
the
water
to
make
sure
where
the
counts
are
when
done
correctly.
This
doesn't
harm
people,
pets,
animals
of
the
environment.
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E
F
So
if
you
think
you
know
shot
glass
is
an
ounce,
so
it's
less
than
a
shot
glass
over
a
football.
So
that's
how
much
product
we're
putting
out
and
of
that
product
the
active
ingredient.
It's
also
a
315..
The
active
ingredient
is
a
three
percent
Permethrin
product,
so
of
that
less
than
shot
glass.
Three
percent
of
that
is
the
Permethrin,
which
is
the
killing
agent
for
mosquitoes.
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So
it's
a
very
low
dose,
which
is
where
the
word
ulv
it's
ultra
low
volume
comes
from
you,
don't
mix
it
with
any
diesel.
You
don't
mix
it
with
kerosene
or
any
carrier.
It's
all
ready
to
use
neat
product.
So
that's
so
much.
Products
coming
out
and
Studies
have
shown
that
exposure
to
humans
at
that
low
dosage
rates,
it's
negligible.
F
H
F
D
So
we
have
some
options.
We
can
eliminate
vector
control.
We
could
bring
the
program
back
in-house
we'd
have
to
hire
an
in-house
expert
or
train.
An
in-house
expert
we'd
have
to
purchase
the
equipment,
find
our
storage
space,
build
a
workshop
and
higher
temp
Workforce
in
the
summer.
We'd
have
to
increase
I.T
capacity
for
GIS
mapping
and
then
be
recertified
as
best
pesticide
applicators,
or
we
can
contract
it
out.
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B
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I
I
just
quickly
add
that
the
map
that
councilmember
westergard
asked
about
is
also
another
benefit
in
that
as
the
contractors
they
have
the
GPS
on
their
vehicles
and
could
in
a
response
to
a
complaint
or
a
consideration.
If
I
haven't
got
the
fogger
hasn't
come
by,
they
can
look
at
those
records
and
see
when
the
truck
might
have
gone
by
with
the
dipbox.
D
D
Directly,
we
are
not
involved
in
managing
the
phone
calls
for
complaints
and
it's
a
huge
huge
benefit
to
our
current
staff
to
not
have
to
man
the
phones
during
mosquito
season.
It's
you
don't
even
can't
imagine
how
many
phone
calls
we
were
receiving
and
having
to
track.
So
it
takes
a
lot
of
that
work
away
from
us.
D
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D
We
tell
people
that
they
should
do
their
own
backyards,
because
this
is
going
to
go.
You
know
to
the
front,
so
if
you
want
to
spray
your
deck
area
or
your
patio,
you
should
be
doing
your
own
backyard.
We
also
encourage
people
to
eliminate
any
standing
water
in
their
yards,
because
that
just
creates
a
breeding
ground.
So
change
out
your
your
you
know
bird
feeders
or
Waters
periodically
and
make
sure
you're
not
leaving
buckets
and
pails
and
stuff
outside
that
get
full
of
water,
because
that's
standing.
C
B
So
do
that
next
year,
so
for
my
historical
standpoint,
mayor
and
maybe
Joe
you
were
here,
there
was
discussion
several
years
ago
about
just
eliminating
the
whole
program
and
in
fact,
I
think
we
were
in
the
process
of
doing
that
and
making
that
known
when
we
got
pushed
back
that
we
needed
to
keep
keep
going.
So,
first
and
foremost,
we
need
direction
from
Council
to
continue
doing
this
service
and
then
the
options
that.
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K
K
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G
I
have
one
question,
so
I
would
be
I'm
supportive
of
keeping
the
program
and
Contracting
it
out.
It
doesn't
make
sense.
I
don't
feel
for
us
to
invest
in
all
of
this
equipment.
We
need
to
leave
it
to
the
professionals.
Are
we
how
many,
how
many
contractors
out
there
do
this
type
of
work?
Are
we
concerned
that
we
would
get
someone
with
less
ability
than
than
who's
here
today
or
how?
How
does
that.
D
I
I
think
that
I
would
say
definitely
contracts
a
doubt
to
the
people
are
trained
in
that
and
and
also
if
people
can
opt
out.
You
know
it
sounds
like
you
can
opt
out,
make
it
more
publicly
known
that
if
you
have
bees
or
if
you
have
some
reason
or
you
don't
want
it,
then
you
can
opt
out
of
where
it
would
be
sprayed
yeah.
We
always
offer
that
I
think
we're
just
making
it
more.
So
people
understand
that
it
can
be
done.
C
H
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F
E
E
I
mean
I,
guess
I'd
be
interested
in
it.
If
part
of
the
advantage
is
that
we
have
additional
data
so
that
we
can
be
more
precise
and
we
know
when
and
in
what
areas
we
have
high
volumes
I'd
be
interested
in
a
more
focused
approach:
Where
We
Are
spraying
based
on
high
volumes,
rather
than
rather
than
high
volume
in
one
part
of
the
city
triggers
spraying
city-wide.
We.
D
D
The
other
thing
is
people
that
aren't
getting
sprayed,
who
know
that
an
area
got
sprayed,
call
and
say
how
come
I
didn't
get
sprayed
and
they
get
very
upset
about
it.
So
I
think
the
best
approach
is
those
who
don't
want
sprayed
sign
up
for
the
no
spray
and
stay
out
of
it.
You
know
and
don't
get
sprayed,
but
it
is
a
city-wide
effort.
It's
not
neighborhood
effort.
It's
city-wide
and
I
think
we
should
treat
it
that
way.
Right.
E
D
And
we
can
do
that.
I'm
just
saying
that,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
you're
going
to
spray
the
northwest
or
wherever
the
data
or
the
data
shows
two
days
later,
you're
going
to
get
a
high
count
in
the
Southeast,
then
you're
going
to
hike
out
in
the
East
and
you're,
not
using
the
the
service
effectively
because
they're
pulling
out
going
back
back
and
forth
where,
if
we
can
just
do
the
city,
we're
done
everybody's
everybody's,
the
same
it's
Equitable
and-
and
we
can
get
it
done,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
that
approach.
K
I
guess
I'm
just
I'm
confused.
If
people
can
sign
up
to
not
get
it
and
we
can
publicize
that
I
mean
why?
Wouldn't
we
just
I
mean
that
just
seems
a
logical
way,
then
that
way,
we're
not
building
complaints,
Clark's,
not
building
complaints
of.
Why
we're
not
doing
it?
Why
we're
not
doing
all
of
the
city
and
then
we're
going
to
have
to
explain?
K
Well,
the
data
showed
that
we
only
had
this
amount
here
where
we
could
just
have
people
sign
up
and
say:
hey
I'm,
not
interested
in
doing
this,
please
don't
spray
in
front
of
my
house.
I
just
seem
like
that
is
the
the
best
way
to
to
proceed.
In
my
opinion,
I,
don't
know
how
everyone
else
feels
that
just
seems
the
most.
D
I
I
I
guess
I
just
asked
the
experts
how
many
times
like
when
do
you
do
it
all
the
same
time?
When
you
take
the
test
and
how
many
times
has
there
been
a
variance
between
one
area,
this
City
versus
the
other
area,
to
the
degree
that
you
would
say:
oh
there's,
no
mosquitoes
in
this
side
of
town
or
we're
so
low.
We
don't
need
to
spray
I
mean
I
mean.
What
is
your
information
that
you
had
last
year?
There
was
a
slide
on
that
right,
yeah,
but
it's
we.
C
F
Again,
Rob
Wilson
with
Clark.
This
is
the
biogens
counter
trap
data
throughout
this
past
season,
and
this
is
three
trap
nights
a
week
is
how
that
is
taken
and
then
that
that
data
is
every
15
minutes
sent
to
our
sir
to
a
server
and
that's
the
and
so
it's
an
automated
system.
Now
the
gravity
traps
is
the
actual,
where
you
infuse.
H
F
And
attract
culex
female
mosquitoes
to
lay
her
eggs
in
the
water.
That's
the
disease,
carrying
mosquito
in
our
area
here
and
those
are
done
over
one
or
two
nights
a
week.
We're
work
Gathering
the
Gathering,
the
live,
mosquitoes
send
them
to
our
PCR
testing
lab
and
then
getting
that
data
back
within
within
the
week.
So
we
know
where
the
positive
rules
are
for
the
for
the
vector.
F
J
F
F
A
F
F
You
know
so
that
so
is
that
this
year
is
this.
This
is
this
year's
data,
so
what
we
had
at
the
time
when
we,
when
we
sent
the
data
we
will
have
updated
because
we
just
did
finish
a
spray
Mission
last
night,
actually
because
we
found
our
positive
pools
and
mosquitoes
for
West
Nile
Virus,
so
we
just
completed
a
spray
last
night.