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From YouTube: 5-9-22 City Council
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Des Moines City Council regular meeting on Monday, May 9, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
B
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I'm
jonathan
gueno
public
works
director.
I
I
want
to
take
just
a
few
moments
to
recognize
the
men
and
women
of
the
public
works
department
that
do
the
work
of
keeping
the
city
running
day
in
and
day
out,
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
365
days
a
year,
someone
in
the
public
works
department
is
working
to
make
our
city
safe,
clean
and
friendly,
and
keeping
the
quality
of
life
that
we
are
accustomed
to.
B
All
of
this
takes
stuff
and
people
to
take
care
of
it,
and
we've
got
some
of
them
here
with
us
to
accept
the
to
hear
the
reading
of
the
the
the
mayor's
proclamation
declaring
next
week
to
be
national
public
works
week,
where
we
join
almost
30
000
agencies
across
the
united
states
and
canada
and
taken
a
week
to
celebrate
our
own
contributions
and
the
employees
that
help
make
our
community
what
it
is,
and
we
think
it's
a
good
chance
to
to
recognize
the
the
men
and
women
that
actually
do.
The
work
of
public
works.
A
Now.
Therefore,
I
josh
mandelbaum
mayor
protem,
on
behalf
of
the
city
council
and
the
residents
of
des
moines,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
may
16th
to
20th
2022
as
national
public
works
week
in
the
city
of
des
moines,
and
I
call
upon
all
residents,
businesses
and
organizations
to
acquaint
themselves
with
the
issues
involved
in
providing
public
works
services
and
to
recognize
the
positive
contributions
which
public
works
and
engineering
department
personnel
make
every
day
to
the
health,
safety,
comfort
and
quality
of
life.
B
E
A
A
A
A
A
All
right
that
that
takes
us
to
our
hearings
as
a
reminder
for
for
those
items
where
public
comment
is
not
taken
or
to
convey
information
generally
to
the
council
or
city
manager.
Des
moines
residents
are
encouraged
to
submit
letters,
emails
texts
or
phone
calls
with
additional
comments
or
information
to
ensure
they
are
sharing
information.
They
would
like
to
be
shared.
A
A
A
After
all
of
the
parties
of
interest
have
commented,
we
will
open
it
up
to
any
member
of
the
public
for
germane
comments
to
aid
in
recognizing
the
parties
and
interests
who
may
speak
on
the
zoning
items.
I
will
ask
everyone
else
to
not
step
to
the
microphone
unless
they
are
the
zoning
applicant
or
live
within
250
feet
and
receive
mail,
mailed
notice
of
the
rezoning.
A
After
all,
the
parties
of
interest
have
been
called
upon.
General
public
comment
at
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
seven
minutes
will
be
called
for
germain
public
comment
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
germaine
public
comments
for
the
hud
hearing
and
the
zoning
amendment
hearing.
Any
interested
person
may
make
germaine
comments
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
10
minutes
per
hearing,
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
germaine
public
comments
or
when
comments
cease.
A
All
right
and
with
that
we'll
go
on
to
item
49
item
49
on
conveyance
of
excess,
city-owned
property,
locally
known
as
2123
2127,
2207
and
2211
southwest
23rd
street
to
groban
wine
llc
doing
business
as
jasper,
winery
for
a
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
and
six
hundred
dollars.
Council
communication
number
22-197.
H
A
J
L
M
M
M
N
O
P
My
name
is
karen:
bidding
I've
lived
there
for
82
years
on
east
22nd
street,
and
I
remember
the
first
gas
station
that
used
to
be
down
there
on
that
corner.
We
need
something
down
there.
Now
I
have
an
old
car
that
needs
to
be
fixed
and
things
that
we
need
to
go
down
there
to
have
done,
and
it
would
be
a
good
place
to
have
something
down
there,
that
we
could
rely
on
and
go
down
and
see.
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
kathleen
worley
and
I've
only
lived
at
1460
east
22nd
street
for
three
years
as
the
main
residence
there,
but
my
son
has
owned
the
property
for
16
17
years,
when
I
first
moved
in
guess
what
the
name
of
that
business
was
on
the
corner,
logan,
automotive,
so
at
one
time
or
another,
it
must
have
been
zoned
so
that
logan
automotive
was
there.
Now
they
have
moved
to
a
bigger
place
over
on
hubble,
but
it
has
it's
just
sitting
there.
It's
not
being
used
it's
running
down.
Q
Yes,
there
have
been
tenants
in
there.
There
have
been
tire
shops,
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
there
is
already
equipment
in
there
for
it
to
be
an
automotive
shop
unless
it's
been
taken
out,
so
I
am
more
than
happy
to
see
a
time,
not
a
tire
repair,
but
an
automotive
place
to
go
back
in
there
and
it
gives
a
bunch
of
people
some
jobs
around
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
My
name
is
ray
gooch
and
I've
been
working
with
angel
and
the
resident
or
the
tenants
that
are
currently
at
the
building.
I
have
a
pretty
good
regulatory
understanding
of
what
needs
to
happen.
I
work
in
long-term
care
facilities.
I
work
with
federal
regulators.
I
work
with
state
and
city
officials,
fire
marshals,
I'm
helping
them
plan
on.
If
you
guys
were
to
say
yes
to
this
request,
to
make
sure
that
this
facility
at
22
easton,
is
within
the
scope
of
a
proper
building
and
the
outside
looks
good.
K
R
Well,
I'm
a
friend
of
angel
graf
and
as
long
as
I
know,
I
have
known
her
she
could
get.
Could
you
provide
your
name?
Oh
I'm
sorry.
My
name
is
dixie
griffith
824
boyd
street
over
by
grandview
avenue,
but
I'm
a
friend
of
angel
graf
and
as
long
as
I've
known
her
she's,
the
woman
that
stands
for
the
for
people
she
wants
to
see
jobs.
She
wants
to
see
the
economy
thrive,
she's,
a
people
person
and
she
goes
to
my
church.
R
R
A
Are
there
any
more
parties
in
interest
as
a
reminder,
it's
folks
within
250
feet
and
then
we'll
open
it
to
the
general
public?
I
don't
are
you
within
250
feet,
sure
I'm
just
supporting?
Yes,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
any
other
parties
in
interest.
Sir,
you
you
can
come
back,
we'll
open
it
up
to
the
the
general
public.
Thank
you.
S
My
name
is
vince
berardi
and
I've
known
angel
for
over
12
years,
and
I
she's
a
very,
very
good
friend.
She
always
wants
to
do.
What
is
right
and
I've
worked
with
her
and
I'm
going
around
the
neighborhood
within
the
neighborhood
of
that
building
and
every
resident.
We
went
to
over
six
to
seven
residents
in
that
neighborhood
and
every
one
of
them
agreed
to
have
a
auto
repair
shop
there
and
keep
it
the
zoning,
because
the
ones
that
have
rented
it
now
they
are
so
down
to
earth.
S
A
T
N
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
jeff
witte
and
I
live
in
ward
2
and
I'm
president
of
fairmont
park,
neighborhood
association,
fairmont
park,
neighborhood
association,
is
opposing
this
rezoning.
First
of
all,
the
square
footage
of
that
building
is
is
so
small.
You
know,
everybody
knows
with
autumn
auto
repairs
that
you
can't
get
parts
anymore.
Cars
sit
might
sit
for
two
weeks
three
weeks.
Four
weeks
never
know,
there's
parking
space,
for,
I
believe,
maybe
six
cars,
that's
it
and
and
that's
for
employees
and
everything.
D
So
when
you
go
industrial,
that's
a
whole
different,
that's
a
whole
different
thing:
we
we
supported
angel
when
she
went
to
get
this
conditional
use.
She
told
me
that
all
she
wanted
was
a
tire
shop,
a
retail
shop,
and
I
said
the
neighborhood
will
support
that
because
we
are
pro-business,
but
this
here
is
a
detriment
to
the
neighborhood
fairmont
park
has
roughly
around
five
thousand
residents
and
yes,
there
might
be
a
few
around
there.
D
D
U
U
I
understand
it's
a
small
lot
but,
as
we
know,
neighborhood
associations
don't
necessarily
speak
for
the
residents
and
all
the
residents,
especially
here
in
this
case,
where,
where
the
business
owner
and
the
the
proximity
250
feet,
your
guys
rules
for
who
has
to
get
contacted
have
come
out
to
support
this
project.
So
I
encourage
you
to
go
with
the
residents
instead
of
the
neighborhood
association.
In
this
case.
H
So
so
the
the
picture
that
I
I
see
is
two
separate
buildings,
but
what
I
see
is
a
is
a
car
lot
on
the
on
on
this
under
the
city,
assessors
site
and
there's
lots
of
cars
parked
on
this
a
lot
at
that
time.
I
don't
know
when
this
picture
was
taken,
maybe
mike
maybe
mike
can
help
with
that,
but
I
just
so
how
many
cars
are
you
willing?
I
mean:
what
are
you
trying
to
put
on
here.
M
They
approve
for
three
cars
right
now
on
those
per
garage
door
per
garage
door
for
each
each
base
has
each
car
to
work
on.
It
has
like
a
full
base,
the
tenants,
the
new
tenants
they
just
move
in
may.
First,
they
promise
that
they're
not
gonna
park
outside
just
park.
Whatever
the
city
requires
only
three
parking
space,
one
on
the
east,
no
two
on
the
east
and
west,
only
one
that
means
total
three.
M
H
H
X
M
Y
When
you're
in
your
staff
report,
there's
quite
a
lengthy
history
on
the
zoning
of
this
property,
yeah-
probably
about
two
pages
of
information
about
it,
the
last
conditional
use
permit
was
approved
in
2018
on
the
property
and
there
have
been
multiple
requests
to
amend
that
conditional
use
permit.
Since
then,
but,
ultimately,
the
tire
repair
shop
was
allowed
on
the
property.
There
was
a
limit,
for
example,
on
vehicles
could
be
there
for
48
hours
on
the
property,
so
those
conditions
still
all
currently
exist
on
the
property.
Y
So
if
the
council
is
considering
approving
this
rezoning
and
going
against
the
planning
commission,
we
would
recommend
that
you
continue
the
hearing
so
that
staff
can
come
back
with
appropriate
conditions
to
recommend
for
the
zoning
at
the
next
meeting.
We
normally
go
with
what
the
planning
commission
has
recommended
in
our
recommendations
to
you.
J
The
last
time
in
2018,
when
the
applicant
came
before
us,
we
said,
go
back
to
board
of
adjustment
and
she
said
a
tire
repair
shop
is
what
I
want
since
then.
I
don't
know
how
many
tenants
there
have
been,
but
I
know
that
zoning
has
many
many
pictures
where
the
it
was
not
being
used
with
what
they
would
said.
There
were
multiple
cars.
One
day
I
went
by
there
were
food
trucks
in
the
parking
lot.
J
I
asked
suen,
I
said,
there's
food
trucks
and
she
said
no,
it's
not
zoned.
For
that.
You
can't
have
that
there
were
things
all
over
the
parking
lot
and
in
2018
the
applicant
came
before
us
and
said
I
promise
I'm
going
to
fix
it
all
up,
I'm
going
to
take
care
of
it,
but
that
hasn't
happened
and
and
we've
had.
I
don't
know
how
many
different
tenants,
she's
had
angel
doesn't
live
in
the
neighborhood.
So
it's
a
you
know.
J
She
I'm
sure
she
she
owns
it,
but
she's,
not
in
the
neighborhood
daily
to
see
what
what
the
neighbors
have
to.
If
you
remember
this
was
on
the
council
agenda
a
couple
months
ago,
or
maybe
it
was
last
last
meeting,
but
we
have
letters
from
all
the
neighborhood
associations
around
there.
Fairmont
park
has
came
around
and
said
they
are
not
supportive
of
it,
because
it's
I
mean
if,
if
she
had
been
a
good
neighbor,
if
it
had
been
she's
got
she's
got
her
her
conditional
use
permit,
but
that
was
not
being
abided
by.
Y
So
again,
there's
a
couple
different
options.
If
the
zoning
is
denied
by
the
council,
then
she
could
seek
an
amendment
to
the
conditional
use
permit
from
the
board
of
adjustment
and
they
could
place
similar
conditions
on
a
new
conditional
use
permit,
just
as
they
did
on
the
previous
one.
Otherwise,
if
the
council
choose
to
re-zone
the
property
as
requested,
we
would
just
ask
that
you
continue
the
item
for
two
weeks
so
that
we
can
bring
back
appropriate
conditions.
X
M
H
Is
is
we
say
yes
to
you
that
if
you
sell
the
place,
then
it
can
be
anybody.
So
if
you
go
to
the
board
of
adjustment-
and
you
ask
the
board
of
adjustment
to
get
a
amend
your
agreement
with
them,
then
you're
able
to
stay
there
and
it's
just
you.
But
if
we
say
yes
to
what
you're
asking,
then
anybody
can
come
and
take
over
that
building
and
then
it
you
know
it's
it's
zoned
for
that
and
then
the
neighbors.
H
You
know
it
might
not
be
someone
as
good
as
you
are,
or
you
know
it
could
be
somebody
different
and
that's
that's
where
that's
where
the
challenge
that
it
is
so
I
would
say
your
best
bet-
is
just
to
go
to
the
board
of
adjustment
and
ask
them
to
amend
your
agreement.
So
your
new
tenants
can
stay
there.
F
M
F
X
It's
you
know
not
too
far
down
the
street
from
you
know
that
the
u-haul
and
and
all
those
other
situations,
I
don't
think
it's
especially
out
of
place
like
I'm
fine,
with
an
auto
repair
shop
being
there.
I
do
have
the
concern
about
rezoning,
but
I'm
also
seeing
how
the
board
of
adjustment
has
made
declarations
like
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
it
being
an
audit
repair
shop.
So.
J
A
H
Y
Have
been
multiple
requests
have
gone
for
the
board
of
adjustment.
I
can't
speak
to
what
she
asked
for
the
last
time,
but
if
she's
denied
this
zoning
request,
she
can
go
back
to
the
board
and
ask
specifically
for
the
use
that
she's
wanting
to
do
this
time
on
the
property
and
can
propose
conditions
and
the
board
can
impose.
H
F
Z
Y
Y
Y
F
H
E
AB
A
on
approval
and
submission
of
home
investment
partnerships,
supplemental
funding
as
authorized
under
the
american
rescue
plan
home
arp
allocation
plan
as
an
amendment
to
the
2021
annual
action
plan
to
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
pod.
This
item
was
continued
from
our
april
18
2022
council
meeting,
it's
council
communication
number
22-211.
A
And
we'll
open
this
to
the
the
public,
I
I
wanted
to
to
say
before
we
got
started
last
time.
I
had
some
questions
for
staff
about
this.
In
particular,
I
I
suggested
staff
visit
with
two
different
organizations,
luna
and
nissa-
that
work
with
domestic
violence
victims
in
the
immigrant
community
and
to
think
about
how
our
plan
can
can
reflect
how
we
can
use
these
dollars
to
help
address
the
specific
needs
of
of
domestic
violence,
victims
and
the
housing
needs
that
that
they
need.
A
U
A
U
Appreciate
it,
so
the
breakdown
of
the
cost
here
is
obviously
a
little
bit
different
than
last
time.
It
came
in
front
of
you
all,
but
we're
still
at
15
for
administration
and
planning
and
five
percent
for
operating,
so
we
are
spending
less
on
operating
at
administration
costs
than
we
are
on
shelter
at
congregate,
shelters
for
our
houses,
individuals
also
we're
spending
75
percent
on
developing,
affordable
rental
housing.
We
haven't
seen
any
rental
housing
come
across
that
is
in
not
only
technically
affordable
but
actually
affordable
come
across
and
have
you
guys
approve
it?
U
So
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
not
spend
all
the
money
on
purely
developing
the
housing,
but
actually
developing
rental
assistance
programs
as
well
that
help
people
live
in
the
current
conditions.
They're
in
that
are
currently
unaffordable
as
well.
So
I
really
think
we
can
do
better
less
for
administrative,
bureaucratic
costs
and
more
for
actually
helping
people
that
need
to
pay
rent
at
the
end
of
the
month.
H
AC
V
X
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
addition
of
the
non-congregate
shelters,
I'm
happy
that
we
went
back
and
got
that
added.
So
I'm
glad
first
up
to
stop
for
doing
that.
I
know
we
had
discussions
last
time
about
that
15
administration
and
planning
fee.
I
will
just
say
we
were
told
in
the
last
meeting
that
if
that
15
isn't
spent,
it
gets
re-allocated
back
into
the
the
rest
of
the
project.
I
just
like
to
see
at
the
end
of
it.
X
You
know
what
we
spent
out
of
that
if
we
spent
that
entire
fifteen
percent,
I
think
we
had
said
last
time
we
usually
spent
around-
maybe
ten
ten
to
fifteen.
So
I
just
like
to
see
you
know
what
happened
with
the
if
we
have
access
what
happened
with
the
xs,
so
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
address
that,
but
I
also
wanted
to
say,
like
I
don't
have
an
issue
with,
like
you
know,
wanting
to
double
check
before
things
go
up.
X
I
think
that
we
need
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
on
getting
some
of
these
in
place,
and
I
also
wanted
to
mention
the
affordable,
the
affordable
rental
housing
like
this
is
in
the
report.
It
talks
about
permanent,
supportive
housing,
and
so
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at.
I
know
there
are
people
who
want
to
be
developing
more
permanent,
supportive
housing,
I'm
happy
to
have
in
my
ward
and
very
supportive
of
it,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
get
that
as
quickly
as
possible.
AC
AD
Yeah,
absolutely
that's
in
our
standard
process
when
we
award
home
funds,
we
do
ask
on
the
question
or
the
proposal
if
they've
consulted
with
the
neighborhood
association
and
the
neighbors,
and
so
that
is
one
of
our
requirements.
We
don't
necessarily
say
that
the
neighborhood
has
to
approve
it,
but
we
do
ask
that
they
consult
and
talk
with
themselves.
H
H
AE
As
you
said,
with
this
being
an
eight-year
grant
the
there's
a
long
time
period
for
monitoring
whatever
we
don't
charge
the
grant,
we
have
to
have
a
source
of
funding
to
charge.
That
would
be
the
general
fund.
If
we
don't
spend
it
all,
it
does
get
reprogrammed
and
spent
according
to
the
purpose
of
the
grant.
So
we
could
only
use
the
administration
for
work
specifically
on
the
projects
we
fund.
The
other
thing
just
to
mention.
We
don't
know
how
many
projects
we're
going
to
fund
out
of
this
funding.
AE
X
P
A
I
AD
Yeah
so
the
way
it
works-
okay,
yes,
this
is
lisa
lisa
krabs
with
the
federal
funds
division.
So
the
the
way
it
does
work
is
that
we
place
a
lien
against
the
property
for
new
construction
projects
with
this
funding
it's
20
years,
so
we're
guaranteed
that
so
many
of
the
units
are
affordable
for
20
years.
If
it's
a
rehab,
it's
15
years,
we
are
allowed
to
impose
stricter
requirements
if
we
want
to
so.
AD
If
you
want
it
to
go
further
out,
we
can,
and
the
thing
is
also
to
note
sometimes
we
partner
the
funding
with
litec,
which
has
a
30-year
compliance
period.
So
a
lot
of
times
we
do
get
a
longer
compliance
period
or
affordability
period
for
certain
units
anyway,
but
we
are
definitely
able
to
put
longer
restrictions
on.
AD
Correct
yep
yep,
the
the
funding
the
home
arp
funding
is
special
in
that
it
is
really
geared
toward
those
who
are
homeless
or
at
risk
of
homelessness,
a
lot
of
which
we
see
have
you
know,
concerns
with
mental
health
that
need
the
support
of
services
so
yeah.
The
definite
intent
is
to
provide
permanent,
supportive
housing
if
possible.
AD
H
I
Are
you
good
with
that
mayor?
I
think
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
I
just
want
to
want
everybody
to
be
aware
that
that's
how
the
thing
works-
and
you
know
there
have
been
occasions-
you
know
in
the
past,
where
you
know
they've
been
low
income
or
at
least
a
portion
of
the
units
is
low
income
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
and
then
they
run
out,
and
you
know
things
change.
I
I
I
think
we
just
got
to
keep
in
in
mind
that
we
have
to
think
about
people
who
need
affordable
housing
for
a
long
period
of
time.
It
might
not
be
the
same
family
or
the
same
individuals,
but
I
think
that
they're
tend
to
be
a
significant
number
and
maybe
some
would
say
growing
number
of
people
that
need
that
kind
of
assistance.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
cognizant
of
that
and
that
we
prepare
for
long-term
future
of
taking
care
of
those
that
need
support.
That's
all.
A
A
A
AF
AF
Good
evening
your
honor
members
of
council,
I'm
matt
haughey
the
outreach
director
for
the
polk
county
housing
trust
fund.
I
just
wanted
to
come
before
you
tonight
to
say
the
polk
county
housing
trust
fund
supports
adding
additional
accessory
housing
units
in
our
community
ahus
ad
housing
options
that
align
well
with
planned
dsm's
commitment
to
providing
lots
of
housing
options
at
a
variety
of
price
points
from
an
affordability
standpoint,
ahus
have
the
advantage
that
the
land
they
sit
on
is
already
paid,
for.
AF
They
also
help
the
city
take
full
advantage
of
its
existing
infrastructure
and,
finally,
ahus
provide
ordinary
homeowners
a
way
to
engage
in
developing
housing
that
the
city
needs.
We
hope
that
council
will
adopt
the
proposed
changes
and
we
hope
that
you
will
continue
your
engagement
to
reduce
housing
barriers
in
des
moines
and
across
the
region.
Thank
you.
D
D
It
seems
to
me
that
the
neighbors
next
door
to
him
would
have
a
right
to
protest
if
they
don't
want
this
under
a
conditional
use,
but
as
a
right,
they
won't
have
that
and
if
you
start
looking
at
a
quarter
mile
from
the
bus
trans,
all
the
transfer
stations
and
so
forth
the
bus
routes.
When
you
look
at
fairmont
park,
which
is
you
know,
it's
not
a
very
big
park,
not
a
very
big
neighborhood,
but
there's
a
bus
route
on
euclid.
D
Y
Y
The
buy
right
would
be
in
districts
that
essentially
already
allow
multi-family
residential
and
then
on
corridors
and
within
one
quarter
mile
of
a
corridor
that
has
a
transit
route,
which
is
a
walkable
distance
to
public
transit
outside
of
that
quarter.
Mile
of
a
bus
route,
it
would
be
a
conditional
use
permit
under
the
code,
so
again,
districts
allow
multifamily
by
right
within
quarter
mile
of
a
transit
route
by
right.
Outside
of
that
would
be
a
conditional
use
permit
through
board
of
adjustment.
J
Thank
you
so
for
most
of
the
neighborhoods
just
to
help
clarify
for
what
jeff
is
talking
about
his
fairmont
park
does
not
allow
duplexes
they're
they're
n1.
I
believe
so.
If
somebody
wanted
to
build
a
an
additional
housing
unit
in
their
backyard
realizing,
it
can't
be
more
than
50
percent
of
the
size
of
the
house
or
594
square
feet,
or
no
more
than
25
percent
of
the
yard,
so
pretty
small
they
would.
They
would
be
able
to
do
that
as
long
as
they
were
within
a
bus
route.
Y
AG
Hello
I'll
be
speaking
later,
I'm
under
sam
davis.
I
heard
about
this
proposal.
I
thought
it
was
great,
but
I
have
an
alley.
I
have
an
old
crappy
garage
and
if
I
decide
to
put
an
apartment
above
it
I
could
do
it.
However,
as
I'm
learning,
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
my
neighbors
for
them
not
to
have
some
sort
of
input,
so
I
just
think
it
should
be
opened
up
to
the
neighbors
they
have
to
you
have
to
open
it
up.
You
can't
just
say
that
I
I
fit
this
parameter.
AG
W
All
right,
wyatt,
archer,
50309,
ward,
3..
I
talked
about
my
support
last
time.
I'd
like
to
reiterate
my
support.
I
also
want
to
just
make
sure
everyone's
aware
that
rear
yard
setbacks
are
still
like
required.
Everything
that's
already
in
the
zoning
code
is
still
required
so
that,
if
things
are
already
legal
non-conforming,
you
can't
just
put
something
else
on
top
of
it.
W
So
you
would
have
to
actually
meet
the
legal
code
of
the
rest
of
the
zoning
ordinance,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
add
affordable
housing
everywhere
in
the
city,
and
I
do
not
think
that
individual
neighbors
should
be
able
to
veto
affordable
housing
kind
of
in
their
neighborhood,
but
again,
very
small.
You
have
a
size
limit
area
limit
actually
like
in
the
on
actual
property
and
whatnot,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
asset
that
this
is
that
the
city
of
des
moines
could
use.
AH
AH
We
have
to
increase
the
density
of
our
residential
availability.
Housing
is
a
problem.
It's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
problem
as
the
climate
change
work,
changes
we're
going
to
get
more
and
more
refugees
coming
to
the
city,
so
I
think
anything
that
we
can
do
to
increase.
The
density
of
housing
within
the
city
is
going
to
benefit
us
and
it's
going
to
provide
for
a
more
stable
community.
So
thank
you.
U
Scott
liked
that
one
I
but
genuinely.
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
to
empower
residents
who
are
able
to
do
this
right.
There's
still
a
myriad
of
hoops
that
need
to
be
jumped
through
in
order
to
accommodate
this
type
of
property,
and
once
again
it
would
remind
people
that
neighborhood
associations
don't
represent
residents
and
don't
support
these
things
unilaterally
and
equally.
So
I
would.
U
I
would
encourage
us
to
do
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
residents
and
and
provide
housing
that
actually
is
able
to
meet
affordability,
because
people
are
already
living
on
that
lot
and
paying
those
taxes
so
they're
able
to
provide
a
space,
that's
much
needed
in
every
part
of
the
city.
So
thank
you.
A
A
This
item
was
to
hear
from
more
neighbors
and
I
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
different
neighborhood
associations
about
it
in
advance
of
last
time.
I'd
I'd
heard
negative
comments
from
one
neighborhood
or
maybe
not
negative
comments,
more
questions
and
concern
from
one
neighborhood
association,
which
was
the
woodland
heights
neighborhood
association.
A
As
I
said
last
time,
I'm
supportive
of
of
this
amendment.
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
hope
that
that
we
listen
to
neighbors
and
other
voices
over
time
and
look
at
how
we
can
make
this
available
citywide,
because
I
think
these
type
of
choices
and
options
are
a
benefit.
It
gets
more
housing,
it
gets
a
variety
of
housing.
It
allows
generations
to
live
near
each
other
if
they
choose,
it
allows
property
owners
a
way
to
offset
offset
costs.
A
H
H
They
they
don't
like
that
it,
it's
basically
gonna,
be
by
right
within
a
you
know,
quarter
mile
and
and
things
like
that,
they
they
want
to
know
what's
going
in
their
neighbor's
backyard,
and
I
and
I
feel,
like
that's
fair,
so
I
won't
be
supporting
this
motion
tonight.
I
I
just
think
that
we
have
a
process
right
now.
You
know
in
theory.
I
think
it's
great.
H
I
I'd
love
that
you
know
you
would
be
able
to
move
a
family
member
or
someone
out
there,
but
it
also
could
be
whoever
you
want
to
move
out
there,
but
your
neighbors,
you
know
if
you
don't
talk
to
your
neighbors,
they
need
to
know
what's
going
on,
and
so
that's
why
I
won't
be
supporting
it.
In
theory,
it's
a
it's
a
great
idea,
but
we've
already
we
already
have
it
available
citywide.
So
I
will
be
not
supporting
that
this
evening.
K
AI
J
Y
Mayor
pro
tem
members
of
the
council,
michael
ludwig
deputy
director
development
services,
currently
under
the
code,
you
have
to
have
either
a
dash
two
or
four
zoning
designation
on
the
extension
on
the
end
of
your
zoning
to
allow
it
by
right.
If
you
don't
have
that,
you
have
to
go
through
a
rezoning
process.
H
F
H
F
I
Yeah,
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
of
the
affordable
housing
units
and
in
the
whole
concept.
I
am
hearing,
though
you
know
from
some
of
the
neighborhood
associations
about
parking
and
some
of
the
other
restrictions.
So
mike
are
we
able
to
steal,
even
if
we
pass
this
work
through
some
of
those
to
put
some
detail
and
and
is
it
the
same
sort
of
a
situation?
If
I
have
a
100
foot
lot
or
a
50
foot
lot.
Y
The
code
does
require
one
off
street
parking
space
for
an
accessory
housing
unit.
That's
in
addition
to
the
off-street
parking
space
for
the
primary
unit,
so
the
code
does
require
off-street
parking
and
then
the
25
lot
area
coverage
for
all
accessory
buildings
applies
to
the
rear
yard,
as
well
as
the
maximum
size
of
the
dwelling
of
an
accessory
housing
unit
cannot
exceed
50
of
the
square
footage
of
the
primary
dwelling.
So
we
have
multiple
criteria
that
kind
of
address
the
size
of
accessory
housing
units
that
could
be
allowed.
AJ
X
Yeah,
I
just
have
to
say
your
neighbors,
don't
get
to
tell
you
if
you
get
to
build
a
shed
in
your
backyard.
This
is
essentially
the
same
like
building
requirement
as
that
your
neighbors
don't
get
to
decide
who
a
landlord
who
owns
a
house
on
your
street
rents
too.
You
don't
get
to
decide
who
who
is
in
your
neighborhood.
You
just
have
to
be
kind
to
them.
A
A
H
H
H
T
AC
T
AC
AC
They
are
a
great
community
partner
and
have
for
many
years
provided
very
reliable
energy
to
our
community.
So
bear
with
me,
as
I
share
with
you,
the
background,
because
this
should
be
helpful
to
the
comments
from
the
public,
hopefully
in
understanding
what
the
franchise
agreement
is
about
and
what
it
it
entails
and
what
it
doesn't
and
what
it
does
not
allow
us
to
talk
about
with
our
providers
as
well.
AC
Excuse
me
summarized
within
the
city
goal
of
2035,
reaching
a
24,
7,
carbon-free
electricity
community,
so
to
understand
that
this
site
agreement
is
where
a
lot
of
the
detail
is
I'll.
Go
into
some
of
what
are
the
elements
there?
The
joint
clean
energy
statement
of
intent
to
cooperate
functions
as
a
non-binding
statement
between
the
both
parties.
AC
This
agreement
is
available
online
on
the
city's
website.
It
will
be
presented
along
with
the
third
hearing.
Excuse
me,
the
third
reading
of
the
franchise
agreements,
so
that
it
can
be
binding.
At
the
same
time,
the
statement
focuses
on
energy
efficiency,
demand
management,
clean
energy
generation
solutions
for
the
future.
The
statement
lays
out
a
process
whereby
both
parties
will
be
collaborating
to
develop
an
annual
work
plan
and
an
annual
reporting
out
to
the
public
that
is
tracking
the
progress
that
we
are
making
towards
the
city's
goals.
AC
AC
The
utility
franchise
agreements
are
negotiated
contracts
between
the
city
and
mid-american
energy
again
for
both
electric
and
gas.
The
franchise
agreements
specify
the
period
of
the
service
and
the
collection
of
franchise
fees,
which
is
crucial
as
well.
The
city
currently
collects
a
five
percent
franchise
fee
for
both
gas
and
electric
utility
use.
That
amounts
to
a
12
million
dollar
annual
budget
amount
for
our
general
fund,
which
is
available
for
city
operations.
AC
So
I
can
tell
you
that
is
incredibly
crucial
that
we
do
not
put
at
risk
the
12
million
dollars
annually
that
we
receive
through
those
franchise
fees.
Again.
The
period
of
time
is
for
a
13-year
agreement
again.
Bear
with
me,
because
there's
a
lot
of
great
information
and
performance
that
has
occurred
with
mid-american
energy
in
the
past
and
has
gotten
to
a
point
where
mid-american
energy
is
at
the
11th
lowest
rate
compared
to
the
135
regulated
utilities.
AC
However,
when
the
wind
doesn't
blow
or
the
sun
doesn't
shine,
it
is
essential
during
our
transition
to
a
net
zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
that
a
balanced
and
reliable
and
affordable
generating
portfolio
is
continued
and
maintained
and
not
put
at
risk.
The
reliability
of
receiving
electricity
and
gas.
AC
During
the
last
five
years,
the
company
has
been
a
partner
with
approximately
600
organizations,
see
these
activities
include
an
enormous
amount
of
assistance
with
non-profits
and
more
than
six
million
dollars
to
make
the
community
better
and
stronger
met.
Americans
foundation
has
also
invested
in
the
community
by
providing
more
than
180
grants.
AC
Economic
development
is
crucial
to
the
work
that
mid-american
energy
does.
They
are
a
leader
in
supporting
economic
development
and
recognize
that
the
is
important
to
have
affordability
and
reliability
of
the
utility.
The
american
energy's
renewable
generation
is
a
significant
differential
when
it
comes
to
competitive
economic
development
opportunities.
AC
Okay,
so
that's
what
has
occurred
and
that's
some
of
the
experience
that
we've
received
from
the
work
of
mid-american
energy.
Just
for
clarifications
again,
the
franchise
agreement
itself
does
not
get
into
the
resources
of
of
power,
but
rather
the
utilization
of
the
right-of-way
and
the
administration
of
franchise
fees,
which
are
incredibly
important
to
this
city.
So
with
that,
I
will
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
of
the
council
and
let
you
proceed
with
the
hearings.
Thank
you.
Excellent.
X
AC
F
J
AC
Separate
from
the
franchise
fee,
but
that
is
correct
that
under
obligation
for
the
cost
of
moving
their
lines
out
of
the
way
of
a
city
project,
if
there
is
additional
cost
because
of
specific
ways
of
handling
that
undergrounding
oftentimes
becomes
that.
That
may
be
a
cost
that
may
be
incurred
by
the
city.
X
H
H
AH
Thank
you,
council
sheila,
canola,
odole
ward,
3,
member
of
the
des
moines
citizen
task
force
on
sustainability.
I
would
recommend
that
you
reject
this
as
written.
I
know
we
need
to
do
this,
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
period
of
13
years
being
too
long
without
any
kind
of
checks
and
balances
involved.
13
is
not
a
lucky
number
and
I
fear
if
we
we
do
this
and
we
don't
have
any
kind
of
out.
AH
AH
AM
AN
AO
L
AP
AI
L
I
don't
believe
it
is
because
it's
improper,
when
the
city
gets
to
speak
before
a
public
hearing,
as
that
could
impact
the
comments
that
come
after
it
and
second,
I
would
support
rejecting
this
franchise
agreement.
Most
days
on
my
phone,
I
get
a
banner
notification
now
that
there's
moderate
air
quality
reported
in
my
area.
That's
not
good,
and
I
have
to
imagine
if
there
are
five
coal
plants
in
the
state
operating
and
churning
out
fumes,
that's
probably
having
something
to
do
with
it
further.
L
AQ
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
scott
sanders
for
the
help
for
advertisement
for
mid-american,
but
it's
not
that
we
don't
understand
it.
It's
that
we
don't
agree
with
it.
Mid-American
is
the
largest
carbon
polluter
in
the
state
of
iowa.
Their
executives
have
said
to
us:
they
have
no
intention
of
ever
stopping
burning
coal,
if
not
forced
non-binding
statement
to
us
or
no.
The
citizens
of
the
city
of
johnston
were
recently
able
to
get
a
franchise
agreement
that
allows
for
cancellation
or
alterations
after
five
years,
but
the
citizens
of
des
moines
have
no
such
rights.
AQ
Apparently,
why
would
you
give
up
our
leverage,
whatever
we're
getting
in
franchise
fees,
could
be
extracted
tenfold
with
leverage
much
like
a
union
whatever?
Why
are
you
so
scared
of
mid-america
and
you
can't
at
least
build
in
a
chance
to
reconsider?
They
personally
of
a
company
could
have
reduced
coba
deaths
of
our
citizens
by
15
if
they
had
not
shut
off
the
utilities
on
poor
and
suffering
families
during
the
pandemic,
they
owe
us
we
own
them.
AQ
G
Cooper
harwood,
ward,
1..
This
franchise
agreement
was
presented
just
now
as
something
that
is
entirely
of
benefit
to
the
city
and
seemingly
not
at
all
the
mid-american.
This
agreement
gives
up
a
powerful
source
of
leverage.
We
have
to
try
to
get
mid-american
the
single
largest
carbon
emitter
in
the
state
to
get
away
from
practices
that
are
harming
us
all.
AS
AS
It
is
a
shame
that
you
call
mid-american
a
partner
when
they're,
depositing
hundreds
of
millions
tons
of
toxic
fly
ash
into
our
environment
every
year.
That's
mercury,
that's
lead!
That's
uranium!
That's
called
carbon
dioxide
sulfur
like
all
of
these
toxic
terms
that
I
can't
even
explain
like
it's
a
shame
that
you
think
that
a
community
partner
who
cares
about
our
environment
and
our
climate
would
do
that
for
profit.
AS
We
know
that
mid-american
energy
thinks
that
100
carbon
neutral
means
that
our
homes
are
powered
by
renewable
sources,
but
that's
meaningless
when
they're
still
spewing
pollution
across
the
state
of
iowa.
You
bored
us
with
all
these
details
of
a
non-binding
con,
non-binding
agreement,
this
side
agreement
when
there
are
no
teeth
for
the
city
council
to
make
sure
that
they're
doing
anything.
AT
My
mayor
pro
tem
and
council
members,
I'm
alex
johnson,
I
live
in
ward,
3..
Public
trust
doctrine
applies
in
all
cases
where
public
officials
have
control
over
public
assets
like
our
shared
environment
and
ecosystem
public
trust.
Doctrine
has
been
described
by
legal
scholars
as
the
slate
upon
which
all
law
is
written.
It's
an
ancient
precedent,
much
older
than
our
nation,
or
this
state.
It
holds
the
public
officials
in
charge
of
our
common
property.
Oh,
we,
the
people,
a
fiduciary
duty.
That
means
highest
duty
of
care
highest
duty
of
care.
AT
That
means
resisting
mid-americans
pressure
for
a
sweetheart
deal
that
fails
to
protect
the
public
again
and
again.
Mid-American
has
shown
contempt
for
anything
that
interferes
with
their
profitability.
Their
agenda
must
not
be
embraced
by
you.
You
have
a
higher
duty
that
you
were
required
to
uphold,
given
that
human
survival
is
at
stake.
If
our
reasonable
request
that
you
do
your
job
fail
to
persuade
you,
we
will
mobilize
sufficient
political
power
and
compel
the
necessary
outcome.
Despite
you.
Thank
you.
AU
Hello
dave
murrays
resident
and
business
owner
in
ward
3
with
the
sustainable
business
mission
as
a
small
business
owner.
I
respect
the
council's
desire
to
not
tell
mid-american
how
to
run
a
business,
but
with
the
franchise
agreement
the
council
isn't
acting
as
a
regulatory
agency
telling
them
what
codes
they
must
follow,
but
as
a
customer
and
one
of
midamerican's
largest
and
we're
asking
them
to
ensure
that
they
can
meet
our
unanimously
passed
clean
energy
resolution.
AU
AU
AI
Hi,
my
name
is
carolyn
yulin,
hague
walker.
I
live
at
411,
ingersoll
avenue.
Climate
change
is
real
and
happening
faster
than
even
scientists
on
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
told
us
about
this
past
year
we
have
to
reach
our
city's
climate
goals
and
the
only
way
is
by
the
city
and
mid-american
as
partners
being
accountable,
which
means
shorter
renewable
periods
that
are
binding
in
a
franchise
agreement,
not
13..
AI
I
also
as
a
environmental
science
teacher,
I'm
retired.
I
taught
on
earth
day
a
neil
young
song,
and
I
tried
to
figure
out
what
to
say
in
one
minute,
but
anil
young
says
it
in
about
30
seconds.
Forgive
my
voice.
Who's,
gonna,
who's,
gonna,
stand
up
and
save
the
earth
who's
gonna,
take
on
the
big
machine,
who's
gonna
say:
she's
had
enough
who's,
gonna
stand
up
and
save
the
earth.
AP
AP
Let's
make
des
moines
one
of
those
the
side
agreement
that
part
is
part
of
this
is
promising,
but
it's
not
binding
and
leaves
us
vulnerable
to
utility
business
decisions
that
might
not
align
with
the
city
goals.
That
residents
have
called
for
we're
asking
the
city
council
to
delay
this
agreement
and
to
incorporate
language
that
would
create
outs
at
three
years
and
eight
years
if
the
cooperative
agreement
is
not
getting
results,
this
type
of
provision
is
already
common
in
many
franchise
agreements,
including
the
city
of
johnson.
AP
Here
in
the
metro
among
many
others,
it's
not
unreasonable
technologies
and
service
models
are
changing
fast
in
the
energy
sector.
People
in
des
moines
need
to
know
the
city's
preserving
flexibility
to
address
any
unforeseen
changes
by
including
the
off-ramps
from
what
is
a
monopoly
provider
agreement.
This
is
not
an
unreasonable
request
of
mid-american
is
truly
sincere
in
wanting
to
be
a
partner
with
the
city
on
climate
goals.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
AM
Nick
hunter
2824
watrus,
like
the
previous
commenter,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
three
to
five
year
outs
are
very
common:
it
happens
for
cities,
municipalities
with
utility
companies,
not
just
in
iowa
across
the
country,
and
also
just
a
question:
how
can
we
achieve
our
2035
clean
energy
goals,
which
this
council
seems
to
support?
If
we
know
they're
going
to
be
mid-american
polluting
until
2049?
AM
We
can't
do
that.
We
don't
go
green
because
it's
politically
fashionable
and
it's
going
to
help
us
get
elected.
We
go
green
because
we
need
to
do
this.
It's
not
just
something
for
electoral
politics
and
also
if
we
don't
include
these
three
to
five
years
outs,
it's
more
of
the
status
quo
of
our
elected
leaders,
just
caving
to
corporate
pressure
when
we
need
them
to
stand
up
to
the
constituents
that
they
should
be
representing
instead.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
C
You
know
I
I
probably
not
going
to
be
the
most
popular
person
up
here,
but
I've
worked
for
in
in
with
and
then
for
this
company
for
over
23
years.
I
know
people
have
suggested
that
the
site
agreement
may
not
happen.
I
have
never
seen
this
company
take
a
step
backwards
when
it
comes
to
you
know
doing
what
they've
said:
they're
they're
a
great
place
to
work,
I
mean
if
they
didn't.
I
probably
wouldn't
work
there,
but
I'm
telling
you
this
is
a
great
place
to
work.
C
When
we've
had
the
storms
come
through
the
duration,
we
had
the
solar
vortex
come
through.
I
guess
I
don't
remember
many
of
these
people
standing
up
here
saying
you
know,
let's
not
turn
these
people
back
on.
You
know
they're
a
vital
asset
to
the
city,
to
our
state
to
everybody
that
they
service
they
provide
a
product.
That
is,
you
know.
C
V
AV
Thank
you,
patrick.
You
reminded
me.
Let
me
tell
I'm
christine
hensley
former
city
council
member,
I
reside
at
2821
southwest
30th
street
and
I
had
the
honor
and
privilege
of
serving
for
over
24
years
and
representing
the
citizens
of
des
moines,
and
I
did
vote
on
the
franchise
fee.
That's
currently
in
existence,
and
I
think
it's
important.
I've
heard
that
people
want
to
have
checks
and
balances.
AV
I've
heard
that
we
need
to
not
have
it
for
13
years,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
they
understand
that
there
is
an
opening
at
year,
three
and
year,
five
for
those
discussions,
and
I
have
never
seen
mid-american
energy
not
do
what
they
have
said
they
were
going
to
do.
I
know
city
manager,
you
talked
about
the
impact
of
the
franchise
fee
on
the
city
of
des
moines.
12
million
dollars
is
a
lot
in
addition
to
that
linda.
AW
Good
evening
everybody,
my
name
is
2336
farwell
road
fairmont
park.
We've
got
13
years
to
our
next
climate,
benchmark
2035
and
that's
the
period
of
time
for
this
agreement.
I
think
people
have
been
talking
about
outs,
I'd
like
to
think
of
them
as
check-ins.
So
we've
got
this
agreement
that
scott's
been
working
on
with
american.
It
looks
really
good.
You
know
it's
got
a
lot
of
good
stuff
in
it.
AW
I
think,
if
we're
operating
in
good
faith,
there's
no
reason
that
we
can't
check
in
with
mid-american
at
several
points
with
with
the
power
of
of
and
leverage
of
our
franchise
agreement
and
say
this
is
really
important
to
us
and
it
sounds
like
they
know
that.
But
I
think
that
adding
those
check-ins
if
we're
negotiating
in
good
faith
should
not
be
a
problem
and
it
will
provide
us
several
opportunities
to
just
come
together
on
our
expectations
and
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page
and
it'll.
Give
us
that
point
that
defined
point
in
the
future.
AX
AX
AX
The
community
came
out
and
passed
a
resolution
for
carbon-free
electricity
by
2035
and
the
mid-american
came
out
and
they
already
violated
that
they
already
said
your
resolution
doesn't
matter
to
them,
doesn't
matter
to
any
of
the
people
that
came
out.
People
like
me
who
are
really
worried
about
the
climate
crisis,
who
has
taught
worked
with
children,
worked
in
schools.
Had
my
family's
home
get
just
almost
destroyed
by
tornadoes.
That's
why
we're
all
concerned.
That's
why
we're
here!
This
is
an
existential
cri.
AX
The
climate
crisis
is
an
existential
threat
threat
to
all
of
us,
so
we
have
to
take
bold
action
and
mid-american
energy
doesn't
need
these
coal
plants.
So
that's
what's
so
great
about
this.
They
they
could
help
us
become
the
first
carbon
free
electric
city.
They
could
be
the
first
carbon
free
electric
utility
and
that's
a
great
opportunity,
but
they've
already
said
what
they're
going
to
do:
they're
going
to
burn
coal
until
2050..
H
U
Taylor,
weber,
ward,
3,
yeah
city
comments,
like
propaganda
for
a
corporation
beforehand,
was
nuts
13
years
an
incredibly
long
time,
especially
when
we
talk
about
climate
change,
but
just
incredibly
long
time
in
general.
That's
2009
as
13
years
ago,
at
this
point
like
boom
boom
pow
by
the
black
eyed
peas,
was
on
the
radio
still
and
like
that's
a
really
long
time,
and
so
thinking
that
we're
going
to
push
this
out
and
not
talk
about
this
again
for
13
years
is
insane.
Also
it's
pretty
crazy
to
watch
a
corporation,
say
hey.
U
What
are
you
going
to
do
if
we
don't
give
you
those
12
million
dollars,
but
12
million
dollars
is
a
revenue
profit
sharing
that
they're
getting
from
us
as
residents
paying
fees
and
paying
for
energy
and
services,
but
then
the
city
is
making
money
off
of
the
residents
paying
for
those
utilities.
So
it's
really
up
that
we're
going
to
have
a
corporation
come
in
here
and
hold
that
over
our
heads
and
say
what
are
you
going
to
do
if
you're
not
going
to
do
it
challenging
you?
U
AG
AG
I
think
that
those
600
organizations
that
are
all
being
supported
by
mid-american
make
my
bill
a
heck
of
a
lot
more
expensive.
I
don't
think
they're
a
really
great
company.
I
just
there's
got
to
be
something
you
can
do
to
make
it
better.
Your
five
percent
is
costing
us
probably
much
more
than
that
and
the
money
could
go
back
into
the
city
instead
of
I
don't
know,
I
just
I'm
frustrated
by
how
they
do
things,
because
all
they're
doing
is
putting
greed
before
the
people,
and
I
just
think
that
we
can
do
better.
AM
AL
Since
2004
they've
invested
more
than
14
billion
dollars
in
renewable
energy
in
2021
88
of
their
the
energy
that
mid-american
iowa
mid-american
iowa
customers
used
was
from
renewables
they're
in
clearly
an
industry
leader
on
that
front
again
with
that
target
to
reach
zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2050..
It's
important
to,
as
was
mentioned
previously,
that
that
transition
until
until
the
technology
improves-
and
we
do
need
to
continue
to
have
that
base
load.
So
when
things
like
the
drain
show
happen
and
when
the
sun
is
not
shining
and
when
the
wind
is
not
blowing.
AY
Hello,
my
name
is
emma
coleman,
I'm
in
ward
3
and
as
a
lifelong
resident
of
this
city,
and
I
moved
back
here
after
moving
away
to
get
my
undergraduate
degree.
I
never
expected
to
do
that.
Move
back,
let
alone
stay
here
and
be
as
happy
as
I
am
no
offense,
it's
just
yeah.
So
I
was
really
proud
to
see
the
city
council
pass
the
24
7
clean
energy
resolution
that
you
did.
That
was
also
my
first
day
on
the
job
with
the
sierra
club.
AY
I
took
that
as
a
really
good
omen
and
sign,
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
to
please
not
undermine
that.
By
signing
this
contract
with
no
legal
binding
outs,
I
mean,
if
mid-american
is
so
true
to
the
word,
as
we've
heard
so
far,
it
shouldn't
be
a
problem
for
them
to
live
up
to
their
renewable
energy
goals,
but
also,
if
they're,
true
to
their
word,
they're
burning
coal
until
2049
and
that's
a
problem.
AY
H
X
So
when
we
are
talking
about
the
mid-american
franchise
agreement,
I
always
came
into
this.
You
know
I
am
not
happy
with
what
we've
seen.
I'm
not
happy
with
the
discussion
around
the
coal
plants,
but
knowing
that
that
is
not
a
part
of
the
franchise
agreement.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
lay
that
argument
aside.
X
X
It
doesn't
create
a
situation
where
we
are
able
to
come
in
at
2030
to
come
in
any
year
before
that
and
say
we
want
to
make
sure
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
meeting
our
climate
goals,
it's
just
at
20
35.
We
get
to
decide,
we
either
met
our
goal
or
we
didn't-
and
I
feel
like
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
failure
here
and
hearing.
X
One
thing
I
did
want
to
clarify
is
that
we
don't
have
outs
at
three
and
five
or
we
don't
even
have
discussion
points
at
three
and
five.
We
have
a
possibility
to
amend
at
five,
but
it
doesn't
give
us
an
opportunity
to
say
no
or
to
walk
away
and
that
just
that's
not
good
enough
for
me
what
I
would
like
to
see
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
public.
X
We
have
a
huge
outpouring
right
now,
more
than
we've
had
in
over
a
year
over
a
year
and
a
half
I
think,
coming
out
and
and
saying
that
we
need
out
at
three
and
eight
and
we
are
not
coming
back
to
mid-american
and
asking
for
that.
People
are
fine
with
the
13
as
long
as
we
have
those
outs
at
three
and
eight,
even
an
out
at
eight
and
then
a
renewal
for
five
and
a
possibility
for
renewal
for
five.
X
X
F
X
X
You
know
generally
like
that
that
10
we
didn't
want
to
go
past
10
years,
because
we
know
what's
at
stake,
and
so
we
have
a
council
here
and
a
public
who's
asking
for
less
than
this
13
who's.
Asking
for
three
asking
for
five
asking
for
eight,
even
asking
for
ten
the
is
the
will
is
there
on
the
council.
X
H
H
H
No
one's
ever
talked
to
me
about
any
of
that.
This
was
the
first
agreement
that
was
put
in
front
of
me
and
you
know,
as
as
we
all
go
forward,
we'll
be
able
to
push
the
button
and
vote
on
it.
We
know
we're
where
you
s
where
you
lie
with
it
and
and
but
you
know,
there's
others
on
the
council.
I'd
like
to
hear
from
from
some
of
the
others,
but
mid-america
is
not.
I
mean
the
public.
Hearing
is
closed.
That's.
X
Fine
yeah,
I
wish
they
would
have
come
up
and
and
made
their
case
because
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
wondering
like
if
we
know
that
this
is
what
the
people
want.
If
we
know
that
council
would
be
open
to
a
lesser
agreement,
we
all
the
only
thing.
That's
standing
in
the
way
is
mid-americans,
saying
no
to
that
and.
H
H
And
we
do
have
other
items
yeah
I
mean
I
understand
that
people
came
out,
they're
passionate
about
it.
I
appreciate
that
and
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
hear
from
other
council
members
and
then,
if
there's
gonna,
be
a
motion,
then
we'll
then
we'll
vote
on
it.
We'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
where
they'll
have
it
will
they'll
have
an
ability
to
to
speak
again.
F
Can
I
just
as
far
as
the
side
agreements
that
everybody
doesn't
feel
strong
enough?
Did
we
ever
have
side
agreements
where
we
have
checkpoints?
Did
we
ever
have
a
sustainability
program
manager
to
oversee
and
really
put
things
in
place,
because
I
we
first
passed
the
resolution.
We
take
it
seriously.
F
The
energy
just
be
even
having
the
position
and
hopefully
add
to
that
department
that
we
can
even
do
more
with
a
benchmarking
that
we
did
pass.
So
we
as
a
council
have
taken
initiatives
and
I
think,
to
sidebar
agreements.
I
think
that
they
do
have
teeth.
I
think
we
can
hold
people
accountable,
because
what
is
our
out
in
three
years?
What
are
you
gonna
do
in
eight
and
eight
years?
What
are
you
going
to
do?
F
I
mean
I
don't
think
we
would
have
the
infrastructure
to
take
over
even
in
eight
years,
because
that's
what
you're
leading
towards
if
they
don't
agree
to
it,
then
what
is
our
alternative
and
I'm
not
saying
that
they
shouldn't
shut
down
the
coal
plants
right
now?
But
I
don't
know
if
this
agreement
will
make
them
shut
down
any
coal
plants
as
long
as
people
are
using
the
power
that
they're
using
so
the
biggest
thing
is
for
us,
I
would
put
more
money
into
energy
efficiency.
F
I
would
get
if
arpa
money.
I
would
put
more
into
that
to
give
our
residents
opportunities
to
make
their
homes
more
energy
efficiency,
more
electrical
charging
stations,
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
do
our
part
to
make
it
long-standing,
so
we're
not
using
the
energy
that
is
causing
the
need
for
the
coal
plants.
H
H
H
T
H
Discussing-
and
that
is
those
are
real
dollars
that
would
be
gone.
I
mean
they're
they're,
you
know
our
reliability
that
we
get
from
mid-america.
I
mean
it's,
it's
fantastic,
I
mean
we
don't
have
rolling
blackouts.
We
don't
have
a
gas
shortage
when
it
when
it's
when
it's
30
below
out
everyone's
homes
are,
are
heated
with
gas
and
or
electric
I
mean
we.
We
don't
have
those
type
of
problems
here
and
that's
because
we
have
a
great
partner
and
a
great
provider
of
reliable
and
affordable
energy.
I
mean
it
did
everyone
did
everyone
here.
H
That's
outstanding,
I
mean
there's
not
there's
not,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
you
can
say.
I
mean
you
had
a
gentleman
come
up
here
and
say
they're,
one
of
the
best
companies
to
work.
For
so
I
mean
when
I'm
when
I
listen
we're
having
a
discussion.
Everyone
got
to
speak.
Okay,
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna
tolerate
everyone.
Yakking
and
talking
like
you,
are
we're
gonna,
have
the
discussion
and
then
we're
going
to
vote.
X
When,
when
I'm,
when
I'm
talking
about
the
the
five
year,
the
eight
year,
whatever
we
could,
whatever
agreement,
we
could
possibly
come
to
I'm
not
saying
coming
here
and
saying,
like
okay
at
eight
years,
we're
gonna
be
ready
to
meet
supplies
and
we're
gonna
walk
away.
I'm
not
even
saying
that
we're
gonna
walk
away
right.
V
X
An
opportunity
to
renegotiate
it's
an
opportunity
to
come
back
and
say:
okay,
we've
gone
eight
years
down
the
line,
we're
at
20
30..
Here's
the
environmental
situation
that
we're
in
today
versus
the
environmental
situation
we're
in
in
2022.,
but
we
have
to
wait
until
2035.
We
don't
have
any
opportunity
to
effectively
get
to
our
climate
goals,
and
so
I
just
don't
think
we're
backing
up
what
we
said
we
were
going
to
do.
If
we
don't
have
those
out,
I'm
going
to
let
scott.
H
AC
AC
N
AB
AC
I
I
feel
a
passion
that
that
everybody
has,
and
certainly
I
think,
a
lot
of
us
have
had
that
passion
and
continue
to
have
it.
I
remember
you
know,
working
with
mid-american
and
specifically
even
kathryn,
kuhnert
and
and
her
bosses
we
started
looking
at
this
years
ago.
We
also
realize
the
a
lot
of
the
power
that
that
is
in
this
field
is
held
by
others,
who
you
know
the
ivor
utility
board.
I
I
certainly
wish
that
that
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
agreement
that
we
can
continue
to
work
towards
being
carbon
free
within
the
time
frames
that
we
have
laid
out
as
as
a
city,
and
we
are
one
of
those
cities
around
this
country.
That
is
doing
that
and,
as
scott
said,
I
think
we
best
work
with
that
with
a
provider
who
is
the
expert
in
the
area
and
continually
work
with
them
to
look
at
the
alternatives,
and,
as
one
of
the
speakers
pointed
out,
I
mean.
I
Maybe
one
of
the
alternatives
is
to
look
at
way
sooner,
even
a
conversion
of
those
cold
plants
to
gas
plants
to
until
that
they
they
have
the
energy
back
up
in
the
energy
storage.
It
would
be
necessary
when
the
wind
doesn't
blow
and
the
sun
doesn't
shine
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
these
things,
and
I
talked
to
people
around
the
world
about
that
and
a
lot
of
them
are
very
jealous
of
of
how
we
are
able
to
work
with
our
energy
provider.
I
As
we
know,
home
rule
is,
is
less
today
than
it
used
to
be
in
the
past
on
a
lot
of
levels,
but
we
need
to
focus
all
of
us
on
our
efforts
and
hopefully
with
the
cooperation
of
mid-american,
to
look
at
it,
how
we
get
to
that
carbon
neutral
state
way
before
2050,
because
I
agree
with
everybody
here,
that's
necessary,
but
I
think
we
have
to
work
on
that
in
collaboration
with
our
energy
provider.
We
are
not
in
the
energy
business.
X
That's
the
situation
that
we're
put
in.
We
have
time
on
this
day.
We
still
have
time
to
go
back
and
and
renegotiate
and
and
get
what
the
people
are
asking
for.
We
still
have
time
to
make
that
decision.
We
still
have
time
to
get
that
third
vote,
because
I
would
be
willing
to
pass
second
and
third
readings
if
we
got
an
agreement
like
the
people
are
asking
for,
but
I
can't
be
voting
yes
on
something
like
this
today.
J
J
J
AC
AH
AH
I
would
also
say
that
while
I
do
appreciate
the
low
energy
rates-
and
I
think
that's
important,
especially
for
our
vulnerable
families
in
the
community-
they're
also
spewing
toxics
that
are
killing
us-
okay,
they
can't
be
doing
both.
You
can't
call
them
a
good
corporate
partner
because
they're
providing
us
low
rates
which
makes
us
kind
of
like
an
addict
for
their
product,
and
yet
they
are
continuing
to
spew
toxic
greenhouse
gases
into
our
atmosphere
that
is
literally
killing
our
planet.
AH
AW
Daniel
2336
farwell,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
yak
in
front
of
the
council
again.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
yeah
we're
not
an
energy
provider,
we're
iowa's,
biggest
municipality
negotiating
with
one
of
three
iowa
utilities.
I'm
not
saying
the
mid-american
can't
be
a
partner
and
we
can't
be
their
partner.
AW
It's
a
really
big
deal,
but
I
think
you
know
we've
been
asking
for
information
for
our
benchmarking
and
I'm
not
sure
if
they've
come
through
with
that,
and
I
just
think
that
it
would
be
good
to
hold
them
to
what
our
agreement
is
and
and
to
say,
yeah.
We
want
to
have
a
serious
conversation
about
this
at
certain
points
within
this
agreement
before
it's
too
late.
Thank
you.
AX
So
straight
grobe
again,
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
don't
see
a
lot
of
young
people
coming
up
here
to
advocate
for
mid-american
energy.
Do
you
wonder
what
that
is
because
they're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
the
consequences
of
your
decisions
and
there's
people
in
tears
out
there
right
now,
because
you
all
are
willing
to
step
up
here
in
this
situation.
AX
AX
And
since
then,
people
are
saving
64
percent
less
on
their
bills
and
they
can't
get
help
to
weatherize
their
homes.
As
someone
just
said,
after
that,
bill
passed,
61
000
people
applied
for
assistance
this
winter
because
they
can't
pay
their
heating
bills
because
their
homes
aren't
weatherized
they're,
not
energy
efficient.
They
have
been
having
to
pay
more
and
more
on
their
gas
heating
bills,
and
that's
also
mid-american
can
make
more
profit.
That
is
all
that
they
care
about
their
corporation,
their
their
legally
obligated
to
maximize
profit.
AZ
U
U
I
think
if
you're
going
to
cut
services,
maybe
think
about
cutting
a
racist
police
go
ahead
germain
that
consistently
doesn't
provide
services
equally
to
the
jurassic
city.
That's
not.
Spending
on
the
city
budget
is
incredibly
germane,
especially
when
unaffordable
electricity,
gas
and
other
utilities
also
affect
the
communities
that
the
police
target.
BA
Mary
capone
671
38th
street
someone
mentioned
the
the
difference
in
ages
of
who's.
Speaking
up
for
for
which
side
of
this
issue-
and
I
just
want
to
speak
as
a
brand
new
grandmother
and
and
have
you
think
of
charlotte,
who
is
two
months
old
as
you
make
these
decisions,
and
I'm
really
really
disappointed
in
what
I've
seen
today.
AB
BB
I
am
demoing
the
president,
so
you
know
I
I
practically
also
I'm
against
the
the
climate
change
that
is
is
causing
the
harms.
The
chemicals
are
causing
harm
climate
change
to
to
be
in
crisis
right
now,
and
I
feel
that
solar
energy
would
be
also
another
alternative
instead
of
mid-america.
Thank
you
very
much.
BC
BC
So
we
did
negotiate
and
the
reason
that
we
have
been
given
the
opportunity
to
have
a
25-year
franchise
is
because
of
the
costs
that
are
associated
to
serve
our
customers
and
regardless
of
the
technology,
regardless
of
where
the
electron
comes
from.
It
still
costs
money
to
serve
our
customers
and
having
that
surety
to
put
in
the
infrastructure
to
serve
our
customers
with
our
affordable
and
reliable
and
yes,
it
makes
a
difference,
and
then
you
add
in
our
renewable
energy,
we're
second
to
none
in
this
country.
BC
BC
AI
Yeah,
I
oh
I'm
sorry,
I'm
carolyn
ewell
and
hick
walker,
411
ingersoll
avenue.
If
des
moines
is
the
biggest
customer
of
mid-american
in
iowa,
why
can't
we
go
back
and
renegotiate
the
contract?
I
don't
understand
that
number
that
I
also
really
feel
as
a
school
teacher.
I
feel
really
strongly
about
looking
at
the
big
picture
and
thinking
we
have
to
think
about
the
future
generations
that
will
be
living
in
des
moines.
AI
AD
AC
X
H
H
H
That's
why
it
wasn't
up
all
the
way
through
the
25
years
they
extended
it
out.
10
years
ago,
council
member
hensley
was
on
on
the
council
at
that
time
they
extended
it
out
10
years,
and
you
know
I
mean
this
is
the
same
conversation.
You
know
I
I
have
three
grandchildren
myself,
I'm
proud
of
of
what
mid-america
is
working
towards
clean
energy
for
for
for
everyone
to
live
safely.
I
mean
I
I
I'm
proud
of
that.
I
know
others
are
going
to
disagree
with
me,
but
they
are
a
great
corporate
prop.
J
You
know,
I'm
surprised
that
that
we're
doing
13
years,
I
actually
thought
it
should
be
longer
than
that
when
they're
making
that
kind
of
an
investment
in
our
community,
you
know
where
we're
always
asking
them
to
move
things
around
and
move
the
power
lines
and
and
all
the
things
that
they
do.
I
I'm
I.
I
actually
think
it
should
be
longer
than
13
years,
but
if
they're.
AS
F
H
J
BD
N
N
AI
U
Turn,
however,
ward
3.,
since
we're
just
talking
about
fiscal
responsibility
and
all
the
money
that
we
need.
Do
you
know
how
much
over
budget?
We
are
over
city
estimate
for
this
project,
I'm
over
a
million
over
the
city
estimate.
So
we
we're
saying
that
this
project
should
cost
about
five
and
a
half
million
and
we're
paying
almost
seven
again.
F
A
H
The
definition
of
responsible
needs
to
be
defined
a
lot
clearer
with
us,
because
what
we're
seeing
as
a
responsible
bidder
in
in
work,
that's
being
done
around
the
city
and
tax
dollars
being
spent,
is
not
responsible,
no
matter
what
is
set
up
at
the
state
house
and
how
it's
being
used
there.
I
am
willing
to
challenge
that
how
tax
dollars
are
being
spent.
We've,
for
instance,
we've
had
a
a
contractor
work
on
a
bridge
and-
and
you
know
didn't
do
a
very
good
job.
That's
not
responsible!
H
H
So
I'm
going
to
direct
you
and
the
city
legal
team
to
come
back
to
us
with
how
we
can
define
responsible,
because
right
now
it's
not
being
defined
and
it's
it
and
it's
not
being
used
the
way
that
we
should
be
using
our
tax
dollars
correctly
and
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you
kevin,
but
go
ahead.
But
I
I
want
to
make
that
on
the
record
clear
that
I
would
like
that
within
30
days
to
come
back
and
and
how
that
is
going
to
be
defined.
H
H
AJ
AJ
H
D
U
Yeah,
I
echo
the
comments
and
concerns
we've
had,
especially
when
we're
doing
these
type
of
projects
where
we're
splitting
them
all
up
individually
in
them.
So
much,
I
think
getting
to
the
right
bidder
is,
is
just
as
important
as
the
cheapest,
especially
as
you're
pointing
out
in
a
contract
like
this,
where
once
again
we're
25
over
the
the
city's
estimate
for
what
the
costs
are
going
to
be
again.
This
is
money
that
all
rolls
up
under.
U
I
think
there
was
some
like
12
million
dollar
project
all
in
all
and
we're
going
consistently
over
that
again.
This
is
money
under
the
dmpd
and
so
spending
more
on
police
just
just
to
again
pad
pockets
wherever
that
might
be.
I
know
that
frustrates
joe,
but
that's
the
reality
of
the
situation.
Dana
wingert's
name's,
your.
BB
BB
The
animal
control
facility
is
well
and
good,
but
we
need
manpower
for
that
facility
to
really
rescue
animals
that
get
injured
by
our
automobiles
by
our
bicycles,
going
neutrals
at
high
speed,
they're
left
injured,
to
suffer
and
die
in
agony.
I
think
we
need
more
manpower,
are
more
controlled
through
the
trails
and
treat
these
animals
and
their
habitat
with
compassion
and
with
intelligence
based
in
science.
Thank
you.
AC
AC
AC
H
AC
AR
Good
evening,
mayor
pro
tem
and
members
of
the
council,
I'm
tom
block
deputy
city
engineer
for
the
state
of
des
moines.
Regarding
your
your
question
about
verifying
payroll,
I
really
don't
know
if
we
will
be
in
a
position
to
do
that.
I
don't
think
there
is
such
a
thing
that
will
allow
us-
and
I
don't
know
if
our
contractors
would
actually
have
to
do
it
if
we
asked
them
at
this
point,
it
was
not
in
the
bidding
requirements.
I
would.
H
AR
H
J
I
think
the
way
the
verbiage
was
that
we
want
to
know
that
that
contractor
has
verifiable
wages.
We
have
too
many
contractors
that
are
just
paying
people
under
the
table,
they're
paying
them
cash.
We
said
we
want
verifiable.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
had
trained
people
on
the
job.
That's
more.
F
Y
J
H
AC
H
AC
H
AC
F
A
G
A
A
AB
H
BE
Pam
cooks,
the
assistant
city
manager,
there
was
a
motion
by
council
to
require
this
legal
came
back
with
the
draft
specification
that
made
it
voluntary
because
we
had
no
ability
to
require
it.
Those
specifications
have
not
been
inserted
into
the
contracts
that
have
been
bid
at
this
point,
but
we
can
still
request
it.
It's
just
we
don't
know
one
if
they'll
provide
anything
or
two
if
it'll
meet.
You
know
the
information
that's
being
requested,
so.
J
So,
are
you
saying
that
we
sat
here
as
a
council
and
we
said
we
wanted
this
and
we
voted
on
it
and
we
all
assumed
that
it
was
being
put
in
there
and
then
legal
made
a
determination
that
it
was
not
allowed.
But
nobody
told
us
that,
because
I
know
that
I've,
given
them
the
omaha
ordinance-
and
I
was
told
well
the
you
know-
nebraska-
does
things
different
than
iowa,
but
there
were
still
some
things
that
we
could
ask.
J
BE
AB
BE
BE
H
BE
H
AC
X
BE
X
BE
AC
BE
A
A
Yeah
item
61
animal
control
facility
bid
package,
number,
12,
kennels
and
cat
cages
resolution
approving
plans,
specifications
engineers,
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder.
As
midmark
corporation
john
wells
president
and
ceo
750
000
council
communication
number
22-2221.
AG
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
analogy
to
the
big
discussion
I
was
listening
to.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
these
contractors
come
in
if
you
think
of
like
a
walmart
walmart
doesn't
stock,
their
bread,
walmart
doesn't
put
their
fritos
their
chips
or
anything
like
that,
and
I
think
that
would
be
really
great
instead
of
getting
one
big
contractor
to
sub
everything
out,
because
they
don't
have
as
much
liability
if
you
eat
moldy
bread
at
walmart
and
you
go
to
walmart
they're
like
oh
and
they
point
the
finger
to
somebody
else.
U
Yeah
awesome
discussion
again
again
over
budget
over
estimate,
sense
and
a
theme
here
this
time
almost
twice
as
much
money
as
we're
estimating
as
a
city.
Again,
I
think
all
the
things
I
brought
up
before
on
these
projects
is
incredibly
relevant,
we're
spending
more
money
with
the
police,
and
we
just
simply
don't
need
to.
I
would
like
to
bring
up
an
item
specifically
on
this
one.
These
are
for
kennels
cat
dog
kennel
cages.
U
Specifically,
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
make
sure
we
are
following
humane
standards
and
not
what
the
iowa
state
legislature
sets
as
humane
standards,
because
they
treat
those
animals
like
livestock,
just
like
any
other
animal
that
we
use
for
food
opposed
to
the
pets
and
companion
animals
that
they
are.
So
I
would
like
to
see
us
make
sure
that
all
these
specifically
for
this
item
kennels
and
cages
we're
putting
in
for
these
animals
meet.
N
BB
Hi,
my
name
is
diana
hammer
and
I
live
here
in
des
moines.
You
know
again
once
again
how
you
know
all
these
money
invested
in
these
facilities,
giving
the
this
money,
our
taxpayers,
to
these
big
contractors,
destroying
them
the
land
already.
How
is
that
going
to
provide
quality
care
for
all
the
wildlife
and
domesticated
animals
that
is
humane?
BB
I'm?
I
think
that
increasing
manpower
will
definitely
will
definitely
assist
more
the
the
lives
of
these
innocent
animals
that
don't
have
a
choice,
but
just
suffer
from
greedy
companies.
You
know
construction
and
so
forth.
So
I
really
hope
that
we
can
invest
more
in
in
manpower
for
the
care
of
the
wildlife
and
domesticated
animals.
Thank
you.
H
X
Yeah,
I
I
wanted
to
address
the
reason
that
we
did
split
this
up,
because
I
don't
think
that
it's,
we
might
have
to
say
it
a
million
times,
but
like
the
reason
we
split.
This
up
is
because
of
the
type
of
bidding
process
that
we
have
having
to
accept
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
and,
having
you
know,
disagreement
about
response.
What
responsible
means
to
us
versus
the
state
have
being
able
to
split
it
up
into
individual
bid.
Packages
means
that
we
have
more
control
over
who
is
actually
doing
the
work
versus
a
contract.
X
We
might
not
actually
trust
getting
the
bid
for
the
whole
entire
project
and
then
being
able
to
bid
out
without
having
to
ask
us
who
they're
bidding
out
to
do
the
work
too.
That's
why
I'm
in
support
of
separating
this
out
into
bid
packages?
I
know
it
takes
more
time
for
us,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
more
responsible
way
to
do
things.
This.
The
comment
about
about
the
kennels
I
did
want
to
ask.
If
we
do
do,
we
know
I
I'm
not
100
clear
with
the
statement.
X
BC
V
AR
K
S
AQ
U
Look
at
you
guys,
go
you're
still,
not
close
after
the
other
ones,
but
I
guess
I
would
point
out.
I
was
on
the
same
page
as
linda
and
joe
in
terms
of
like
what
had
been
communicated
when
all
these
previous
motion
packages
have
passed
as
well,
and
I
try
and
stay
up
to
date
as
much
as
I
can
on
the
goings
of
of
things,
the
city
rules
and
changes,
and
I
also
didn't
see
any
changes
that
weren't
having
verifiable
payroll
and
able
to
have
those
on
these
items.
U
So
I
guess
I
would
say
to
the
counselors.
If
you
have
feelings
about
how
staff
is
performing
these
things,
I
think
that's,
maybe
a
relevant
time
to
mention
that.
Maybe
we
should
look
at
firing
scott
sanders
and
replacing
him
with
different
city
management
that
that
can
actually
do
things
that
represent
the
people.
A
Item
63
the
2022
citywide
traffic,
calming
improvements,
resolution,
improving
plans,
specifications
engineers,
estimate
receiving
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive,
responsible
bidder
as
mentoring,
inc
clinton,
m
rhodes.
President
638
thousand
four
hundred
eighteen
dollars,
council
communication
number
22-207
a
is
approving
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet
I'll
open
it
up
for
comments
from
the
public.
U
U
A
I
mean
that
that's
specifically
in
the
council
communications.
There
are,
I
believe,
seven
different
projects,
so
it
lists
the
it
lists
the
areas
the
traffic
calming
measures
went
through
a
public
process
where
traffic
and
engineering
presented
options
and
the
neighbors
most
closely
impacted
chose,
chose
options,
and
then
it
was
approved
by
those
in
the
impacted
area.
BB
BB
Nobody
obeys
the
speed
limits.
There
are
no
signs
that
also
include
animal.
You
know
figures
that
we
can
be
conscientious,
that
we
have
to
moderate
our
speed
limit
to
protect
the
animals
and
the
people
from
being
run
over
or
being
hit
or
being
killed
accidents.
You
know
I
live
on.
55Th
56
there
is
cars
going
right
over
the
fence
of
the
golf
park.
I
mean
that
is
insane.
It's
a
30
mile,
speed
limit.
These
people
are
doing
60
and
they
don't
even
obey
the
police.
They
go
through
this
the
red
light.
BB
H
Thank
you,
scott
one
question
on
on
process.
I
I
have
we've
looked
at
porter
avenue
and
there's
an
email
that
jeff
had
written
me
and-
and
I
believe
the
neighbors
are
all
in
favor
of
doing
something
like
it
needs
to
be
done.
Unfortunately,
there's
no
longer
a
neighborhood
association
right
now,
and
so
how
do
we?
H
H
I
know
it's
not
going
to
be
part
of
this
package,
but
I
know
going
forward.
They
they
yeah
it
is
identified,
but
they're
telling
me
until
a
neighborhood
association
brings
it
forward.
I
thought
that
we
had
that
in
there
that
award
council
award
council
member
right
can
can
can
do
it
and
then
get
the
neighborhood
get
the
neighbors
that
it's
going
to
affect
on
the
street
notified
and
whether
we
have
a
public
meeting
with
them,
but
yeah.
H
T
N
J
AG
J
AG
A
U
Reward
three:
you
can
guess
what
it's
about
we're
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
over
city
estimate.
I
actually
love
this
project.
I
think
this
is
great.
I
think
the
city
should
be
doing
a
lot
more,
this
sort
of
stuff.
I
know
it's
run
by
a
lot
of
volunteers,
which
is
awesome.
The
the
community
gets
involved.
U
The
one
thing
I
would
really
like
to
see
is
this
appears
to
be
all
for
like
vanity
projects
when
it
comes
to
plants
and
resources,
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
anything
around
like
vegetables
produce
that
sort
of
stuff
we've
got
mad
food
deserts
here
in
des
moines.
Food
scarcity,
especially
fresh
produce,
is
a
real
big
problem,
especially
affordable.
I
would
love
to
see
that
this
city-owned
resource
that
is
able
to
put
out
that
kind
of
resources
for
the
city
is
able
to
do
that,
and
I
think
putting
some
language
in
here
prioritizing.
U
X
Public
comment
I'll,
just
if
you
want
to
move
I'll,
let
you
move
it,
but
I
just
want
to
say
like
with
that.
I
agree
that
this
could
be
a
resource
that
we
use
for
for
producing
food.
I
think
that
that's
a
conversation
that
we
can
have
we
have.
We
have
the
resource,
we're
building.
You
know
a
bigger,
better
greenhouse,
really
excited
for
it
and
and
open
to
having
that
conversation,
maybe.
N
H
300
000
plants
a
year.
I
know
you
guys
probably
read
that
in
the
blue
letter
that
that's
that's
that's
what
they're
doing
365
days
seven
days
a
week
and
you
know
so.
I
appreciate
what
the
parks
department
does
with
that.
I
mean
you
know,
goes
to
the
libraries,
the
schools,
the
rec
centers.
All
of
that
it
was
all
in
the
blue
letter
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
very
supportive.
I'm
glad
this
is
in
my
ward.
Did
you
want
it
I'll
move?
I.
AB
H
I
BF
A
A
F
Thank
you
mayor
pro
tem.
I
had
asked
for
a
work
session
to
be
on
the
third
party
review
of
the
police
department,
and
I
know
that
we're
going
out
and
we're
looking
at
different
companies
now,
but
I
just
want
to
make.
I
believe
we
need
a
work
session
to
cover
some
of
the
items.
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
that
third
party
review,
that
we
cover
the
culture
and
climate
and
that
would
review
the
culture
and
climate
of
the
department
and
what
policies
and
supports
should
be
established.
F
So
I
know
that
we
have
those
companies.
I
would
like
to
understand
the
timeline.
I
know
we've
talked
about
accreditation,
but
I
think
that
this
review
needs
to
be
done
earlier.
I
know
it's
all
part
of
it
would
help
us
probably
get
our
accreditation,
but
I'd
like
to
have
more
discussion
in
a
work
session,
and
I'd
also
like
to
review
the
proposals
that
you
know.
We
talk
about
what
public
works.
F
We
have
that
report
and
I
know
that
we
just
had
it,
but
is
there
going
to
be
some
type
of
a
timeline
that
we
will
be
working
with
some
of
those,
because
some
of
them
probably
could
be
implemented
sooner
than
later,
and
are
there
some
things
so
just
to
kind
of
get
a
follow-up
on
that?
So
that's
why
I'm
requesting
a
work
session
just
have
a
better
understanding.
X
We
have
them,
we
have
to
vote
to
get
to
approve
to
get
a
work
session,
and
I
I'll
I'll
say
that
I
am
100
in
support
of
of
this
work
session.
I
wonder
if
he
would
be
open
to
an
amendment
just
to
add
another
thing
that
we
should
be
looking
at
and
that
might
go
along
with
data
collection,
I'm
not
sure,
but
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
one
of
our
disciplinary
procedures.
Are
we
following
best
practices
with
our
disciplinary
procedures,
and
I
think.
X
A
V
J
F
H
F
Have
it,
but
we
don't
know
when
I
think
it
was
going
to
be
june.
I'm
just
saying
I
would
like
to
have.
I've
asked
for
some
specific
things
that
weren't
all
outlined
that
these
are
the
items
are
going
to
be
in
it.
I
just
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
have
clarity,
that
these
items
will
be
in
it,
but.
AC
AC
A
J
AC
F
N
F
A
AC
N
AC
A
AB
A
A
AK
My
name's
chris
robinson,
I'm
in
ward
2,
address
1259
stuart
street.
I
am
also
a
member
of
iowa
cci.
I'm
here
once
again
asking
the
same
question:
the
question
that
you
all
seem
to
avoid.
I
know
you
don't
res
you.
I
know
I
already
know
you
won't
respond,
but
I
want
to.
I
want
you
to
hear
me
loud
and
clear.
When
we
put
someone
on
any
job
to
run
a
department,
you
provide
them
with
good
pay
and
benefits.
AK
AK
So
my
question
to
you,
our
city
council:
when
will
you
remove
both
sanders
and
winger?
Our
city
deserves
a
fresh
start
and
a
chance
for
a
positive
change
where
every
staff
of
the
city
and
resident
is
treated
with
respect
and
fairly,
and
it's
like.
The
police
chief
has
a
touhou
one.
Some
of
the
city
council
members
here,
because
it's
like
a
lot
of
you're
scared
to
take
him
on.
BB
Yes,
my
name
is
diana
camo.
I
am
a
president
here
des
moines
iowa
and
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
to
voice
my
my
my
voice
and
those
of
vulnerable
animosa
can
defend
themselves.
We
have
destroyed
their
land,
and
here
we
are
complaining.
There
are
nuisance,
the
geese,
the
deer,
when
we
are
actually
imposing
our
will
by
destroying
their
land,
their
la
the
source.
Food
grace
lake
has
turned
into
practically
a
street
another
part
of
downtown
des
moines.
BB
The
geese
don't
have
nowhere
to
go,
they
are
being
dis,
displaced
from
their
homes
and
so
is
the
deers,
and
so
that's
what
we
see
them
wandering
through
the
cities,
because
we
have
taken
their
environment
and
I
don't
see.
Why
can
we
show
a
touch
of
kindness
towards
them
by
throwing
them
little
seeds
of
sunflower
seeds
or
something
we've
been
penalized
for
being
kind
but
yeah
we're
still
treating
them
like
they're
garbage,
they're,
just
disposable,
and
I
just
would
like
for
for.
BB
L
I
think
it's
incredibly
inappropriate
that
scott
sanders
spoke
so
much
on
the
mid-american
franchise
agreement
as
the
negotiator
of
the
deal,
it's
frankly
disgusting
for
him
to
read
a
mid-american
press
release
before
a
public
hearing
regarding
mid-american
and
then
to
treat
us
like
we're
just
stupid
and
that
we
don't
understand
it.
We
understand
what
the
franchise
deal
is.
We
don't
want
it.
Do
you
understand
that
at
first
I
wondered
why
the
mid-american
representatives
in
here
were
being
so
quiet,
and
then
I
noticed
that
joe
and
linda
were
clearly
reading.
L
L
L
N
U
It's
hard
to
come
up
with
new
things
to
come
up
and
shout
into
the
void
here
about,
but
I
will
try.
So
I
appreciate
connie
trying
to
get
more
clarity
and
transparency
to
what's
going
on
in
this
review
process
for
the
police
department.
I
think,
frankly,
we're
far
too
late.
You
know
we
we've
ceded
ground
to
the
leadership
within
the
police
department
and
they've
said
that
they
won't
follow
the
direction
even
if
it
came
from
city
staff.
U
I
will
ask
you,
when
the
state
inevitably
bans
abortions
or
limits
them
or
whatever
they
will
do,
and
the
the
state
capital
has
said
they
will
do.
Who
will
be
the
ones
that
enforce
those
things?
Who
will
be
the
ones
that,
even
if
you
don't
want
them
to?
Who
will
be
the
individuals
that
enforce
those
bans
that
penalize
the
people
who
are
already
in
a
very
tough
situation
with?
U
I
know
it's
funny
to
you,
joe,
but
female
mortality
rate
during
pregnancy
has
been
skyrocketing
and
it's
over
four
times
that
for
women
of
color
versus
white
women,
you
have
failed
to
protect
those
in
our
community
from
this
by
enabling
the
dmpd
to
continue
their
violence
unaccounted
for,
you
attempted
to
say,
hey.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
criminalize
marijuana
possession
in
this
town
and
you
attempted
to
reign
in
the
dnp
and
they
said
no.
U
What
do
you
think
that
will
be
when
an
abortion
ban
happens
and
they
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
the
perpetrators
of
violence
on
those
in
your
community
who
are
disadvantaged?
You
have
enabled
them
to
not
follow
the
rules
that
you
are
setting
out,
that
you
claim
to
stand
by
ideals
for
and
josh,
I'm
incredibly
disappointed.
You
refused
yourself
from
the
mid-american
energy
deal.
I
understand
you're,
saying
a
conflict
of
interest.
BD
Thank
you
to
those
on
city
council
that
have
met
with
cci
to
listen
to
our
concerns,
demands
and
are
working
with
us
to
resolve
the
issues
within
the
des
moines
police
department
for
the
rest
of
you
that
have
not
taken
action
on
addressing
the
concerns.
I
think
it's
time
for
you
to
take
a
seat
at
the
table,
especially
now
that
we
have
an
outside
consultant
that
was
hired
by
the
city
recommend
the
same
things
we
have
been
asking
for
years.
BD
What
else
needs
to
happen
for
you
to
move
on
the
issues
we've
been
pressing
addressing
the
safety
of
our
community
shouldn't
have
taken
this
long.
I
hope
you'll
join
us,
the
community
moving
forward,
if
you
don't
shame
on
you
for
not
taking
the
safety
of
our
community
seriously
and,
let's
hope
nothing
comes
back
and
bites
you
in
the
ass.
Let's
move
quick
to
adopt
the
2023
recommendations
for
public
works,
launch
a
third-party
investigation
of
the
dmpd,
create
a
crb
and
replace
the
mpd
leadership.
Thank
you.
AG
AG
Is
it
upside
down
nope,
you
got
it
right.
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
city
council
that
we
have
this
really
weird
thing
called
a
noise
control
ordinance
and
I'm
really
getting
tired
of
listening
to
things.
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
I
think
the
I
don't
know
I
was
just
listening
to.
You
know
zen
on
the
art
of
motorcycle
maintenance
and
it
talks
about
a
dripping
faucet
and
how
the
woman
just
went
berserk
because
of
the
dripping
faucet.
AG
AG
I
can't
have
friends
outside
my
house
where
I
live,
I'm
I'm
by
saint
anthony.
So
I've
got
the
bell
coming
on
at
7
45
a.m.
I've
got
kung
fu
taco,
I've
got
semi
trucks
coming
back
and
forth,
and
then
I
have
the
fireworks,
both
legal
and
illegal,
it's
impossible
to
be
outside
with
noise-cancelling
headphones.
When
I
call-
and
I
show
videos
of
fireworks
coming
from
the
bar
down
onto
my
street,
the
police
are
like
oh
yeah,
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
I'm
like
here's
a
video.
AG
This
happened,
here's
where
it
happened.
I
don't
I'm
just.
I
just
don't
know
what
to
do.
Maybe
I'm
kind
of
pissed
off,
but
I
just
am
so
if
you
could
just
go
through
your
noise
ordinance
and
tell
me
how
I'm
supposed
to
enforce
this
city
of
police
city
of
des
moines
refuses
to
do
anything
about
it.
I
just
think
our
life
would
be
a
lot
better
if
we
thought
kind
of
followed
these
laws.
I
know
I'm
just
tossing
a
bunch
of
papers
out
here,
but
I
guess
the
last
one
is
whatever
read
it.
Please.
AZ
AZ
680
harwood
drive
des
moines
iowa,
I
kind
of
scrapped
some
of
my
notes.
I
want
to
thank
council
member
bozen
for
bringing
the
motion
to
the
before
the
council
so
that
we
moved
the
implementation
of
the
public
works
llc
project
forward
as
quickly
as
we
can.
The
17th
sounds
like
a
nice
thing.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
all
for
supporting
that,
and
I
include
within
that,
of
course,
the
motion
to
set
up
the
policies
and
procedures
around
the
harassment
of
women
in
the
police
department,
which
has
to
stop.
AZ
They,
in
fact,
are
things
that
we've
been
bringing
before
this
council
for
the
last
six
to
seven
years,
and
while
some
of
the
members
of
the
council
have
supported
those,
there
are,
in
fact,
members
of
the
council
that
still
apparently
refuse
to
deny
that
there
is
even
any
kind
of
a
problem
within
our
police
department,
and
this
report
points
out
in
terms
of
at
least
the
data
elements
of
that
exactly
the
things
we've
been
telling
you
for
a
long
time.
The
other
thing
within
the
now
setting
up
things
like
the
work
session.
AZ
I
would
hope
that
you're
going
to
include
public
input
from
those,
because
we've
been
trying
to
talk
with
you
about
these
now
for
a
long
period
of
time.
I
won't
say
that
it's
been
ignored,
but
it
has
been
refuted.
It's
delayed
stonewalled.
We
got
disinformation
provided
the
latest
one
being
sergeant.
Parizek's
comment
about
racial
identification
on
citations.
They
already
do
it
folks
and
they're,
saying
that
it's
too
difficult
to
do
it's
already
a
part
of
the
track
system
with
it
that
stuff
has
got
to
stop
final
thing
was.
AZ
BG
BG
Due
to
the
release
of
several
disturbing
videos,
I
can't
watch
them
anymore,
videos
of
excessive
force.
There
is
an
expectation
that
you
do
the
following:
hire
a
third
party
independent
investigator.
This
is
happening.
I
hope
I
establish
a
community
review
board.
Iowa
city
has
had
one
for
a
really
long
time.
I
don't
know
why
des
moines
doesn't
have
one
and
we
must
replace
the
dmpd
current
leadership.
BG
We
must
get
rid
of
scott
sanders
and
chief
wingert
further,
as
as
harvey
just
alluded
to
you
continued
to
deflect,
redirect
and
ignore
the
seriousness
of
what
we
have
been
asking.
If
you
want
accreditation
for
the
dmpd
we
may,
we
must
make
sure
there
is
an
investigation,
so
we
can
start
afresh
with
a
clean
department,
150
million
dollar
new
police
station
and
more
taxpayer
money
is
not
what
we've
been
asking
for
we're
going
to
try.