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From YouTube: 6-26-23 City Council work session
Description
Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, June 26, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
C
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
Scott,
honorable
mayor
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
Steve
neighbor,
I'm
city,
engineer
and
resident
of
Des
Moines
I've
got
a
whole
team
with
me
from
our
Public
Works
and
engineering
department,
who
have
been
working
on
the
levy
program.
I
think
folks
have
probably,
if
you've
been
downtown,
you've
been
seeing
that
work
going
on
right
along
the
river.
So
this
is
an
update
as
well
as
the
core
has
come
up
with
a
new
process.
C
A
new
standard
which
actually
I
think
is
a
good
one,
and
so
Patrick
is
going
to
help
me
help
talk
about
that.
He
and,
and
some
of
our
other
team
members
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
core
learning
working
through
that
process
and
learning
that
process.
So
so
so
that's
kind
of
the
point
of
today's
conversation
so
again,
given
a
kind
of
a
background.
C
Okay,
so
the
the
focus
of
of
the
levy
alterations
program
is
on
on
eight
and
three
quarter
miles
of
what
is
known
as
the
DM
one,
two
and
three
levees,
as
well
as
almost
seven
miles
of
what
is
known
as
the
Southeast
Des
Moines,
Levy,
dm12
and
three
are
considered
a
city
of
Des
Moines
levees
that
we
still
need
to
go
through
the
core
for
approval
for
any
alterations
of
those
Levy.
The
Southeast
Des
Moines
Levy
is
actually
a
federal
U.S
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
maintain
Levy.
C
However,
it's
it's
of
interest
to
us,
because
one
it
protects
a
lot
of
our
city,
including
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
also
it
is
hydraulically
connected
to
dm1.
So
in
other
words,
if
that
Levy
fails,
basically,
if
you
can
almost
look
them
as
one
Levy,
so
if
it
fails
along
any
one
of
those
locations,
you
know
the
areas
behind
those
levees
would
be
at
risk,
and
so
we've
we've
had
some
substantial
floods
in
our
city
and
and
and
and
so
how
you
know
how,
where
we're
at
right
now
is,
is
in.
C
In
2009,
we
entered
into
a
provisionally
accredited
Levy
agreement
with
FEMA,
and
what
that
is
is
is
the
levy
systems,
these
Levy
systems
that
we're
talking
about
don't
meet
the
current
FEMA
standards,
and
so
but
FEMA
recognizes
that
we
have
a
plan
and
we've
been
working
that
and
executing
that
plan.
And
so,
if
you
look
on
our
on
the
FEMA
floodplain
Maps
you'll
you'll
see
that
those
are
either
you
know.
C
Sometimes
secluded
or-
or
you
know,
is
one
word,
and
so
that
FEMA
is
is
still
recognizing
those
levees
that
they
exist
today,
meaning
that
they're
not
gonna
they're,
not
good
they're,
not
putting
the
area.
You
know
behind
the
levees
in
the
special
flood
Hazard
area
in
the
100
Year
floodplain,
because
they
recognize
the
levees
are
there
because
we
have
a
plan.
If
we
did
nothing
and
we
told
FEMA
we're
going
to
do
nothing,
there
would
be
a
risk
that
they
would
say.
Well,
you
know
what
these
levees
don't
meet
our
standards.
C
We
we
worked
with
the
core
and
got
a
programmatic
approvals
for
our
plan,
because
it's
such
a
massive
project.
We
wanted
to
to
get
that
overall,
programmatic
approval
before
we
move
forward
with
all
these
efforts
that
we've
been
doing
with
the
pump
stations
and
the
levy,
improvements
and,
and
so
the
corps
approved
that
program
and
and
then
in
2019,
we,
we
started
construction
on
the
levy,
alterations
and
so
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
work
done
on
that
already
today,.
C
This
is
a
map
showing
what
we're
talking
about
here.
So
this
is
the
D.
You
can
see
that
they
call
them
the
downtown
levies,
DM
one
two
and
three
and
then
again
as
I
mentioned
before.
If
you
look
at
the
green
Levy
dm1
Levy,
that
is
basically
continuous
with
the
Southeast
Des
Moines
Levy,
so
they
are
hydraulically
connected.
C
And
when
I
talk
about
FEMA
standards,
FEMA
uses
the
federal
standards,
it's
called
title
44
chapter
1,
section,
65
10..
Those
are
what
lists
the
standards
and
when
FEMA
uses
to
a
credit,
Levy
systems
so
and
the
and
basically
what
it
is.
A
professional
engineer
needs
to
certify
that
the
levees
meet
those
standards
in
the
FEMA
credits
them.
So
those
standards
include
things
like
freeboard
in
general.
C
Fema
standard
is
three
feet
above
the
what's
known
as
the
100
Year
storm
or
the
one
percent
annual
exceedance
storm,
and
so
it's
a
three
feet
of
free
board.
So
the
top
of
the
Levee
is
at
least
three
feet
above
that
and
generally
except
for.
When
we
get
close
to
Bridges,
then
it
actually
goes
up
to
four
feet,
so
free
board's
kind
of
one
of
the
more
common
ones,
there's
also
standards
on
closures.
C
C
Here,
we've
already,
we've
built
floodgates,
a
Floodgate
and
a
stopwatch
closure
at
that
bridge
as
well,
and
so
these
have
all
been
a
huge
improvements
and
because
before
to
be
honest,
our
Public
Works
team
in
a
lot
of
these
locations
had
higher
get
contractors
to
help
and
bring
in
large
amounts
of
fill
to
basically
fill
in
these
closures.
Well,
now,
we've
got
more
and
improved
closures
that
are
Gates
and
so
they're
much
quicker
to
to
operate.
C
So
that's
a
huge
flood
flood
mitigation
risk
benefit
and
I
mean
huge
safety
benefit.
There
that's
been
that's
been
improved
a
lot
as
we've
been
working
along
here,
so
embankment
protection.
You
know
the
actual
protection
of
the
levy
itself
from
scouring
using
things
like
riprap
and
then
when
we
talk
about
Foundation
stability
and
settlement,
you
know
that's
that's
kind
of
the
geotechnical
aspects
of
y'all
show
a
graphic
on
the
next
slide.
That'll
show
that
and
then
there's
operational
plans
and
criteria,
maintenance
plans
and
criteria
we're
blessed.
C
We've
got
a
an
awesome
team
in
our
Public
Works
team.
That's
that's
focused
on
that
led
by
obviously
led
by
Jonathan,
Gano
and
Adam
Smith,
but
also
Chad,
Christian,
Center,
flood
protection
engineer
who
do
an
incredible
job.
They
work
closely
with
or
on
on
on
keeping
those
standards
up
to
date
and
and
operating
that
and
so,
and
so
the
goals
of
our
of
our
project
here
number
one
reduce
flood
risk
number
two.
C
Obviously
we
we
want
to
meet
the
FEMA
standards
that
we
talked
about,
that
the
levees
didn't
don't
don't
meet
today,
and,
and
so
we
want
to
also
stay
in
that
Federal
Rehabilitation
inspection
program
under
Public,
Law
84.99.
That's
that's
a
a
program,
that's
administered
by
the
Corps
of
Engineers
in
terms
of
response
to
floods
that
happen,
and
then
we
also
want
to
improve
the
drainage
interior
drainage
system.
I
want
to
talk
about
interior
drainage
system.
We've
done
a
lot
of
awesome
improvements
with
that
protecting
our
neighborhoods.
C
You
know
on
in
the
South
Side
by
through
beachy
Flats,
we
put
in
a
new
large
storm
sewer
brand
new
pump
station
on
the
north
side
of
the
river.
You
know
just
kind
of
on
the
south
side
of
East
Village,
we've
built
a
nice
big
detention
Basin
with
a
brand
new
pump
station
done
improvements
in
there,
and
so
you
know
when
the
river's
up
high,
we,
you
know,
we
need
the
pump
stations
to
be
able
to
pump
the
water
over
out
in
the
river
right.
C
C
So
here's
a
graphic
that
I
use
when
we
talk
about
the
the
6510
FEMA
certification
requirements
right,
so
we
talked
about
the
free
board,
the
height
of
the
Levee.
You
can
see,
there's
the
three
foot
minimum
over
the
100
Year
storm
or
one
percent
annual
exceed
in
storm.
When
we
talk
about
you
know,
stability
on
the
front
side,
you
see
the
scour
protection.
So
again,
that's
that's
the
river
running
along
the
Levee
and
scouring
away
along
the
the
front
foundation
of
the
Levee.
C
You
know
the
Des
Moines,
River
and
raccoon
river
sediment
moves,
like
you,
wouldn't
believe.
I
think
you
know.
I've
talked
about
heard
stories
when
we,
when
we
had
when
divers,
would
go
down
to
inspect
the
bridges,
they
would
inspect
them
and
they
would
see
at
one
point.
You
know
you
could
even
see
some
of
the
footings
and
another
point
the
sediment's
way
down.
C
So
sediment
really
Moves
In
this
River,
and
so
that's
when
we
talk
about
scour
protection
and
when
we
talk
about
other
geotechnical
aspects
of
the
Levee
water
there's,
groundwater
water
is
moving
underneath
the
Levee
systems,
so
we've
got
a
make
sure
that
the
Levee
systems
are
solid
enough
as
a
whole
and
on
the
back
side.
So
the
water
doesn't
come
up
behind
the
Levee
and
cause
the
levy
to
actually
overturn
and
fail
that
way,
and
so
it's
a
geotechnical
aspect
there's
a
number
of
different
things.
C
We
use
to
treat
that
from
seepage,
blankets,
so
in
other
words,
we
have
enough
fill
and
Clay
Liners
in
the
back
side
to
keep
the
water
from
pumping
up
behind
the
Levee
and
causing
that
overturn
to
things
like
seepage
mitigation
trenches
where
we
actually
have
a
trench
that
drains
the
water
to
a
pump
station
that
pumps
it
out.
So
it
relieves
the
pressure
so
there's
not
pressure
under
the
Levee
that
causes
it
to
turn
and
overturn.
C
Just
that
photo
on
the
right,
I.
Think,
folks,
if
they've
you
know
been
in
principal
Park,
lately
they'll
notice
that
that
there's
been
some
changes
around
there
again,
the
the
Levee
system.
You
can
see
the
Levee
going
around
principal
Park
and
again
it
used
to
be
where
we
had
to
bring
in
have
contractors
and
folks
bring
in
large
amounts
of
fill
to
fill
in
those
gaps.
You
know
the
entrances
the
parking
lot
of
principal
park.
Now
we
actually
have
a
closure
structure
that
that
that's
that's
made
that
a
much
quicker
process.
C
C
C
We
talk
about
a
again.
This
is
another
photo
of
one
of
those
closures
at
principal
park.
With
the
stop
log
closure,
that's
been
installed,
phase
a
is
complete,
that
is,
that
is
from
the
the
Confluence
of
the
river
Upstream
Upstream
of
Des
Moines
River.
We've
made
improvements
all
along
this.
This
system,
right
here
out
of
our
window,
that
work
is
complete
from
flood
walls
to
Levee
races.
If
you
notice
there
was
a
raise
that
had
to
be
done
right
in
front
of
brown
Camp
Lofts
there,
so
that
Levy
is
higher.
C
C
Phase
B
is
racing
forward
this
one's
about
85
percent
complete.
This
would
be
from
essentially
like
the
the
Third
Street
Bridge,
all
second
third
Street
Bridge,
all
the
way
Upstream
Raccoon
River,
and
this
one
again
has
had
a
lot
of
raises
a
pretty
significant
race,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
stability.
Improvements
on
the
front
end
with
rip
wrap
this
one
we've.
Also,
we
did
make
a
change
in
the
scope
to
make
the
Levee
the
levy
top
wider.
We
have.
C
C
And
there's
just
a
cool
aerial
photo
I
think
you
know
from
our
Parks
and
Recreation
team
and
their
drone
of
some
of
the
work.
That's
going,
you
know
that's
looking
at
about
the
the
Drone
is
above
south
of
us
seventh,
looking
back
toward
the
Fifth
Street
bridge
and
you
can
see
principal
park
there
in
the
background.
C
Face
C
is
the
one
that's
ramping
up
that
one
was
awarded
in
December
and
so
that
that
work
has
has
started
here
and
that
work
is
the
one
that
right
is
obviously
been
impact.
You
know
been
coordinated
with
the
the
icon,
water
Trails
project
right
at
Scott,
Avenue,
a
substantial
amount
of
work
and
staging
that's
been
gone
into
coordinating
that
effort,
since
they
pretty
much
overlap,
and
so
again
this
one
a
lot
of
the
work
here,
there's
a
lot
of
geotechnical
work.
C
So
when
we
did
a
lot
extensive
analysis
along
that
Levy,
we
did
find
geotechnical
concerns
on
that
one.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
seepage
mitigation,
trenches
from
Stevens
mitigation
trenches
and
cut
off
walls
to
basically
improve
the
geotechnical
aspect
of
that
Levy
as
well
as
there
is
there
is
rates
there
are
raises
along
that
Levy
as
well.
So.
C
When
we
get
an
area
of
downtown
like
we're
in
and
there's
Bridges
bridges
can
cause
some
uncertainty
in
the
hydraulic
modeling,
and
so
that
so
we
want
so.
Our
designs
for
the
downtown
levees
not
only
meet
and
exceed
the
FEMA
standards,
but
they
also
meet
this
core
standard
for
the
90
Assurance
model,
so
maybe
both
standards
and
then
we've
also
made
the
decision
to
provide
a
six
inch
buffer
above
the
FEMA
standard.
C
So
again,
the
Levee
designs
have
been
for
for
to
meet
not
only
both
standards
but
also
provide
a
six
inch
buffer
above
both
those
standards.
So
so
it's
so
there
is
some
we're
hitting
two
standards
and
then
providing
a
little
bit
of
buffer
in
there
as
well,
and
so
so,
we've
been
really
just
focusing
on
checking
those
boxes.
So
Patrick
and
and
Chad
team
have
been
spending
time
with
the
corps
on
a
new
process
which
again
I
think
is
a
good
one.
D
As
of
right
now,
it's
kind
of
a
pick
one
or
the
other.
You
can
go
either
route
I
anticipate.
This
will
probably
be
the
primary
record
in
the
future,
once
they've
had
more
experience
with
it.
So
what
is
the
sqra
process
just
the
risk
process?
Basically,
the
core
pulls
together
a
large
Cadre
of
their
internal
experts,
their
geotechnical
folks,
their
structural
folks,
they're
modeling
folks,
and
we
go
through
a
couple
couple
week-long
workshops
going
through.
Looking
at
what
information
do
we
currently
have
looking
at
past
flood
events?
D
Looking
at
you
know
any
issues
we
may
have
had
in
the
past,
compiling
that
all
together
and
providing
you
know
a
baseline
assessment
of
what
is
the
the
current
Levy
right
now
and
then
also
looking
at
the
proposed.
You
know
Levy
design
assessment,
and
so
we
are
making
a
recommendation
to
bring
forth
an
sqra
process
again
to
council
tonight
for
a
total
cost
of
572
thousand
dollars.
D
The
first
one
is
that
Baseline
Levy
condition
assessment,
that
is,
a
50
50
cost
share
with
the
core
total
cost
of
the
city
for
that
one's
about
377
thousand
dollars
and
the
proposed
Levy
design
assessment
that
one
is
wholly
on
the
city
for
a
cost
of
194
thousand
dollars
the
timeline
to
compete.
Complete
these
risk
assessments
is
12
to
18
months
and
one
of
the
good
things
with
this
process
as
we
get
into
it.
D
There's
going
to
be
several
checkpoints
along
the
way
as
we're
doing
it
so
anytime
we
get
into
this
if
the
process
isn't
going
the
way
we
want
it
to.
We
can
always
go
back
to
descriptive
approach,
and
at
that
point
we
can
tell
the
core.
We
want
to
stop
the
process
right
now
and
any
remaining
funds
that
had
not
been
expended,
get
returned
to
the
city.
D
Steve
talked
about
one
that
slope
stability,
the
riprap
on
the
the
Riverside
and
then
also
that
that
under
seepage
and
relief
that
may
be
required,
and
there's
a
lot
of
that
in
some
of
these
areas
that
that
may
or
may
not
be
an
actual
risk.
That
needs
to
be
mitigated
once
we
get
in
and
really
start
drilling
in
on
it,
and
so
the
savings
associated
with
this
would
be
potential.
D
You
know:
reduction
in
the
levy,
height
required,
not
reduction,
but
maybe
we're
not
have
to
raise
it
as
much
reduction
in
the
riprap
required
and
then
reduction
in
those.
You
know
that
seepage
blanket
or
those
large
thick
clay
layers
on
the
back
side
of
the
levees
and
what
that,
what
this
risk
assessment
really
does?
Is
it
levels
the
standard
to
the
most
likely
point
of
failure
in
the
levy
system?
So
it's
really
honing
in
on
what
is
the
highest
risk.
D
D
The
first
table
you're
looking
at
there
is
those
five
phases
and
the
potential
reduction
in
fill
required
to
raise
the
levy
above
where
it's
at
now,
potential
cost
savings
about
1.8
million
dollars
for
all
those
five
phases,
and
then
the
second
table
is
the
the
geotechnical
and
seepage
cost
reduction,
and
that's
where
we
have
some
much
larger
potential
Savings
of
about
7.3
million
dollars
for
a
total
potential
savings
about
9.1.
So
there
are.
These
are
some
big
numbers
we're
potentially
talking
about
just
because
we
go
through
the
process
doesn't
mean
we're
guaranteed
any
of
this.
D
F
E
D
That
would
be
one
of
those
those
seepage
mitigation
processes
we
looked
at,
and
that
was
part
of
that.
The
Birdland
sqra
that
we
did
and
really
what
happened
there
was
the
the
risk
of
overtopping
during
a
flood
event
was
much
higher
than
the
the
sand
boil
or
that
underseepers
that
occurs,
and
so
there
are
other
ways
to
mitigate
that.
The
sand
boils
are
under
seepage
and
really
what
it
is
is
we're
continuing
to
do
continuous
monitoring
from
a
maintenance
perspective.
D
You
know
walking
the
levees
when
we're
seeing
them
you're
actually
able
to
you,
know
sandbag
around
them,
protect
them,
so
they
don't
expand
where
they're
from
where
they're
at
there
into
more
areas
and
potentially
damage
the
back
side
of
the
Levee.
The
other
thing
is,
we
were
going
through
on
that.
D
The
the
way
to
mitigate
that
is
to
come
in
with
seepage,
Wells
or
trench
drains.
Those
actually
introduce
new
risk
by
doing
that,
you're
kind
of
trading,
one
risk
for
the
other,
so
you're
really
not
gaining
a
whole
lot
by
going
through
and
going
through
that
process
and
mitigating
those
through
the
recommended
methods
that
the
court
had.
So
it's
one
of
those
that
yes
they're,
always
there
every
level
every
Levy
has
that
potential
risk,
but
going
through
that
assessment,
the
core
and
FEMA
both
agreed
that
the
risk
of
that
was
low
enough.
D
B
A
D
A
A
We
did
an
immediate,
quick,
clean
up
and
tried
to
get
people
back
to
normal
life,
but
the
protection
is
what
these
levees
are
all
about,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
get
potential
savings,
but
I'm
telling
you
I'm
concerned
about
how
we
protect
our
citizens,
our
property,
our
businesses
moving
forward,
and
that's
obviously
what
this
is
all
about.
Yeah.
E
B
D
Different
levees
and
different
standards
that
we're
maintaining
them
to
so
it
is
much
there's
a
lot
more
scrutiny
that
goes
into
them
now
than
there
was
back
in.
You
know,
93
and
even
in
2008.,
so
we
we're
trying
to
stay
ahead
of
those
as
best
as
we
possibly
can.
Ultimately,
you
can't
build
infrastructure
to
protect
against
every
event,
but
we're
definitely
following
the
standards
that
the
corps
and
FEMA
have
laid
out
so
I
would
agree
with
with
Birdland
has
the
risk
there
is
significantly
lower
than
when
it
failed?
D
G
G
What
if
those
projections
are
too
low,
and
what
what
are
we
potentially
looking
at
if,
if
FEMA
revises
this
and
and
the
the
best
available
information
now,
is
that
this
is
too
low.
What
what
kind
of
I
mean?
Are
we
going
to
have
to
go
through
this
entire
exercise
again?
If,
if
that,
if
that
assessment
changes
in
a
few
years,
so.
D
That
is
part
of
the
process
we're
going
through
right
now
we
are
building
to
the
new
standard
and
then
that's
what
Steve
was
talking
about
that
six
inch
over
build
so
that
we
have
some
buffer
in
there.
If
they
come
back
in
the
future
reanalyze
the
rip,
you
know,
reanalyze
the
flows
reanalyze
those
flood
levels.
We
have
some
some
built-in
buffers,
so
we're
not
going
to
have
to
come
back
and
do
this
again
in
the
near
future.
Is
it
possible
10,
20,
30
years
down
the
road
we
might
have
to
again?
C
C
So
so
yeah
originally
originally
the
original
plan
was
to
to
build
that
FEMA
standard.
And
so
then
some
of
the
raises
in
the
downtown
were
more
like
six
inches
to
a
foot,
but
we
we
made
the
decision
to
include
a
buffer
as
well
as
meet
the
core's
90
Assurance
model.
So
really,
we've
we've
been
having
raises
in
the
aspects
of
more
like
two
and
a
half
to
three
feet.
So
there
is
what's
been
done
and
been
being
done
in
downtown.
What's
been
done,
is
we're
higher,
definitely
higher
elevations?
C
What
it
was
before
segments
the
original
plan
in
a
lot
of
these
areas,
the
raises
downtown
were
more
like
six
inches
to
a
foot.
That's
what
they
recommended,
that
that
was,
that
was
to
meet
FEMA's
standard
right,
and
then
we
made
the
decision
to
to
not
only
meet
FEMA
standard
but
add
the
six
inch
buffer
and
meet
another
standard,
the
core
hand,
which
is
a
90
Assurance
modeling,
and
that
that
so,
instead
of
raising
it
six
inches
to
a
foot
we
raised
in
some
areas,
the
raises
were
more
like
two
and
a
half
feet.
G
C
So
so
so
again,
the
kind
of
the
FEMA
standards
is
the
free
board
above
the
the
what's
considered
the
100
year
flood
event.
The
90
Assurance
model
is
when
there's
more
uncertainty
in
the
modeling
and
a
lot
of
that
uncertainty
is
like
in
areas
where
we
are
downtown,
where
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
bridges
that
then
that
impacts
they
run
I,
don't
even
know
how
many
models
they
run
when
they
do
this
stuff,
and
so
so
different
models
will
show
different
things,
and
so
this
is.
C
This
is
accommodating
the
uncertainty
in
those
models
that
that
are
running
Hydraulics
to
so
it.
So
it
results
when
we're
downtown.
When
there's
a
lot
of
bridges,
we
we
had
to
build
higher
for
the
UN
the
uncertainty
when
we
get
down
further
by
Southeast
Des
Moines,
there's,
there's
not
really
any
bridges
down
there,
so
the
models
are
a
little
are
known
to
be
more
precise
and
not
as
much
uncertainty.
So
then,
the
really
the
FEMA
standard
would
kick
in
down
there.
That,
then
that
makes
sense.
I,
don't
know.
I
C
In
this
case
yeah,
so
when
we
get
the
project
done,
we'll
we'll
certify
the
the
levy
and
FEMA
will
accredit
the
levy,
and
then
the
area,
what's
known
as
area
protected
by
Levy
those
folks
behind
there,
would
not
not
need
to
not
be
forced
to
buy
flood
insurance.
However,
because
because
FEMA
knows
about
our
plan,
because
we've
been
working
with
them
and
because
we've
been
acting
on
it,
the
the
flood
insurance
rate
map
still
show
the
levies
as
secluded
or
I
know.
Whatever
is
on
the
other
term.
C
They
use,
but
but
they're
recognized
to
the
point
where
today
behind
the
levees,
they
are
not
mandated
to
buy
flood
insurance.
If
we
did
nothing
and
we
told
FEMA
we're
going
to
do
nothing,
then
there
would
be
a
substantial
risk
that
FEMA
would
say
you
know
what
those
levees
don't
meet.
Our
standards,
we're
not
recognizing
them
on
our
maps,
and
so
then,
then
folks
would
be
required
to
mandated
a.
I
C
That's
correct,
yeah,
it's
the
whole
because
it's
it's
hydraulically
connected.
We
we've
got
to
implement
the
whole
project,
so
the
flood
risks
are
drastically
reduced
because
because
of
all
the
Improvement
like
I,
said
the
closure
improvements
in
the
raises
downtown.
But
you
know,
as
we
work
our
way
down
the
street,
and
there
still
is,
you
know
we
still
got
to
make
those
improvements
Downstream
to
so
that
water
doesn't.
B
E
J
C
C
And
that's:
where
kind
of
off
councilmember
Mana
bombs,
you
know
looking
into
the
future
again,
we
talked
about
we,
we
did
build
in
some
resiliency
and
buffer
and
and
the
designs,
but
I
think
I
I.
We
at
least
we
think
that
this
new
standard,
again,
which
wasn't
available
to
us
before,
instead
of
just
checking
boxes
and
hitting
everything
the
this
is
more
of
a
risk-based
approach
of
of
looking
at.
Where
are
the
risks
and
Levy,
and
where
should
we?
Where
should
we
spend
our
money
to
address
those
risks?
D
Currently,
the
program
costs
increased
to
about
100.3
million
dollars,
so
we're
looking
at
about
a
almost
a
35
million
dollar
increase
from
2019
to
2023
on
costs
and
projected
costs.
You
can
see
phases
a
b
and
c
original
program
costs
lower
than
what
they
were
in
2023
that
were
either
bid
or
projected
and
phases
a
b
and
c
have
all
been
bid.
At
this
point,
none
of
them
came
in
less.
All
of
them
came
in
more
and
that's
been
a
challenge.
We've
been
facing
with
all
construction
projects
recently
phases
C
through
h.
D
D
Well,
phase
e
is
the
WRA
section,
okay,
and
that
one
there
from
the
initial
assessment
that
was
done,
there
was
an
a
large
sewer
line.
One
of
the
research
one
of
the
the
Lions
go
from
the
primary
to
the
secondary
treatment
is
actually
built
into
the
levy
that
was
not
identified
in
the
initial
assessment,
and
that
creates
a
whole
bunch
of
challenges
there
that
the
real,
only
real
way
under
the
prescriptive
way
to
deal
with
that
is.
B
A
C
A
C
C
C
C
L
Hi
I'm
Scott
Hutchins
I'm,
the
wa
director
and
also
assistant
Public
Works,
director
of
the
WRA
projects,
the
40
million,
that
roughly
we
got
are
there's
a
couple
projects.
One
is
standby
generators.
We
build
a
new
standby
generator
building,
we
raised
and
did
a
flood
wall
around
our
main
Pump
Station
at
the
treatment
plant,
and
we
also
were
raising
our
electrical
switch
gear
that
used
to
be
below
the
flood
stage
of
the
Levee
over
top.
L
L
So
the
work
that
we
have
is
not
related
to
the
levy
we
we
were
looking
at
paying
for
an
extra
one.
Foot
of
superiority,
but
that's
part
of
the
sqra
is
going
to
do,
is
look
to
see
if
that's
really
necessary
out
there
at
the
treatment
plan,
so
I
hope
that
clears
up
a
little
bit
as
far
as
the
wra's
projects.
L
D
We've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
already,
but
you
know
why
are
the
costs
increasing?
You
know
the
one
we
talked
about.
You
know
that
over
build
that
half
a
foot
overbuild
is
one
piece
of
it
that
was
not
included
in
the
original
estimate.
That
was
something
that
was
identified
to
have
some
that
resiliency.
For
you
know
the
more
frequent
more
intense
rainstorms
that
are
coming.
Construction
costs
have
increased
I,
don't
guess
there's,
probably
not
one
project.
That's
come
to
city
council
for
approval
that
hasn't
either
gone
above.
D
What
the
initial
estimate
was
or
gone
over
the
engineer's
estimate
by
sometimes
a
substantial
amount.
The
the
bidding
climate
is
just
kind
of
crazy
right
now,
due
to
a
lot
of
things
like
Scott
said
supply
chain,
labor
shortages,
there's
a
lot
of
big
projects
going
on
right
now,
there's
some
pent-up
demand
and
the
more
big
projects
there
are,
the
more
you
know:
competition.
There
is
the
less
competitive
bids,
we're
typically
going
to
get
and
then
but
there's
also
increased
costs
for
remedial
remediating,
geotechnical
issues
so
kind
of
what
we
talked
about
the
sand
boils.
H
C
D
So
moving
forward
staff
is
making
the
recommendation
to
pursue
the
semi-quantitative
risk
analysis
with
the
core
gain
a
better
understanding
of
the
flood
risk
and
gold
reducing
costs
without
sacrificing
any
of
the
safety
to
the
public
or
property.
You
know
bringing
an
agreement
tonight
for
572
thousand
dollars
to
start
that
process
start
the
advancing
D
through
H
through
design
and
permitting.
You
know,
after
that
risk
assessment
is
completed,
reanalyzing
costs
at
that
point
and
then
so
a
couple
things
one.
D
The
current
state
flood
mitigation
program,
Grant
was
scheduled
to
be
our
project
will
be
completed
by
2028..
We've
been
in
talks
with
them
about.
Should
we
come
and
ask
for
an
extension
or
modifications
to
that,
and
they
said
they
really
only
want
to
do
it
once
so
once
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
overall
scope
is
and
what
the
overall
time
frame
is
that's
when
they
want
us
to
come
back
and
make
a
modification
there.
D
A
M
A
M
They
made
it
a
couple
different
times,
so
there
was
the
the
Birdland
central
place
and
then
there
were
downtown
Levy
closures
that
were
also
done,
and
there
were
also
studies
that
were
added
to
look
at.
Could
they
help
us
with
the
rest
of
the
improvements
that
are
part
of
the
phase
plan
that
we
have
today
and
they
found
that
Federal
money
could
not
be
used,
because
we
essentially
already
have
left.
A
B
B
C
All
right,
I,
remember,
Memphis
city,
council,
Steve,
neighbor
city,
engineer
again,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
John
Davis,
our
city
traffic,
engineer,
who's,
who's,
spearheaded
this
effort
and
and
done
a
great
job
getting
us
to
where
we
are
he's
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
team.
You
know
addressing
comments
that
have
come
in
on
the
plan
working
with
stakeholders.
C
I
know
you
just
had
an
actual
special
Transportation
safety
committee
meeting
to
to
work
through
the
plan
as
well,
and
so
so
very
excited
here
tonight
to
to
work
to
work
to
for
John
to
present
where
we
are
and
and
and
looking
at,
approving
this
planet
and
enacting
it.
So
all
right,
that'll
turn
over
to
John
Davis
John.
Thank
you.
J
So,
as
Steve
alluded
to
we're
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
vision,
zero
action
plan,
as
well
as
the
Safe
Streets
for
all
implementation
Grant,
and
give
you
a
chance
to
ask
any
questions
that
you
might
have
just
to
review
briefly
the
action
plan.
The
purpose
of
the
plan
is
to
eliminate
all
traffic
fatalities
and
severe
injuries
by
2040.
J
J
It
offers
a
path
forward
towards
a
Target
year
of
2040.,
specific
and
measurable
Focus
areas,
actions
and
steps,
Project,
prioritization
based
on
need
and
safety
impact,
an
annual
review
of
progress
towards
the
goal
of
zero
traffic,
related
fatalities
and
serious
injuries
to
firm,
revise
or
discontinue
action
items
or
steps
from
the
Five
Focus
areas.
But,
most
importantly,
it
starts
a
journey
to
eliminate
traffic
deaths
and
serious
injuries
on
the
streets
and
highways
of
Des
Moines.
J
These
are
the
five
Focus
areas
that
we
have
in
the
plan.
Briefly,
they
will
examine
policies,
programs,
processes
and
Partnerships
and
Implement
strategies
to
enhance
those
deal
with
infrastructure,
design,
Safe,
Streets
management
of
speeds,
helping
to
develop
a
culture
of
safety
and
safe
Street
behaviors,
as
well
as
to
enhance
and
improve
data
and
transparency.
J
J
J
Briefly,
review
a
little
bit
of
the
implementation
Grant
there's
one
of
the
requirements
is
to
have
a
finalized
action
plan
that
meets
the
ss4a
requirements
as
well
as
a
consulate
resolution
that'll
have
a
Target
year
of
2040
to
match
the
plan.
The
grant
amounts
that
usdot
anticipates
awarding
is
between
2.5
25
million
dollars.
There's
an
80
20
cost
share
between
Federal
and
non-federal
funds
and
projects
must
be
completed
within
five
years.
J
The
selection
criteria
are
in
the
areas
of
safety
impact,
Equity
engagement
and
collaboration,
effective
practices
and
strategies
to
promote
systematic
or
systemic,
rather
safety
improvements
and
other
dot
strategic
goals
and
again,
project
Readiness.
The
ability
to
complete
projects
within
five
years
of
obligation
of
the
funds
we're
looking
at
five
corridors
to
include
in
the
Grant
application.
They
will
total
27
million
dollars
of
construction
costs
and
we're
looking
to
get
17
million
dollars
of
grant
money
to
help
with
those
projects.
J
These
are
the
project
that
we
spoke
to
you
about
back
in
April,
as
they
continue
by
and
large
the
same.
We've
adjusted
their
cost
estimates
slightly
since
we
last
met
with
you,
but
they
are
here
listed
on
the
screen
and
finally,
these
projects
were
selected
because
they
fit
the
ss4a
grant
selection,
Criterion
considerations.
J
E
I
Got
something
I
do
so
John
if
were
not
awarded
the
17
million.
Would
would
one
or
two
of
these
projects
have
to
be
delayed
then,
or
how
would
you
figure
it
out?
These
are
all
great
projects
and
I.
It's
terrific
they're
spread
around
the
City,
but
what
would
be
your
plan
B
if,
if
we
were
not
awarded
the
entire
asked
amount,
the.
J
J
B
If
I
could
answer
that
question
and
actually
both,
let's
make
sure
we
understand
that
now
moving
forward
with
this
plan,
knowing
where
improvements
would
be
most
impactful
to
safety
every
year,
when
we
do
our
CIP
we'll
have
the
discussion
of.
Are
we
matching
up
with
the
vision
Iowa
or
it's
Vision,
zero,
Concepts?
B
B
So
there
are
there's
an
incredible
number
of
of
actionable
items
within
the
plan,
most
of
which
is
part
is
associated
with
Capital
Improvements,
and
so
those
Capital
Improvements
will
continue
to
advance
based
on
what
Vision
zero
is
showing
us.
The
other
items
we'll
have
to
figure
out
as
far
as
the
educational
piece.
If
we
have
partners
that
are
available
to
help
us
with
those.
So
what
we
can
do
is
show
you
on
the
operating
side
which
are
able
to
advance
and
which
are
not
on
an
annual
basis.
I
J
It
may
be
an
option.
We
would
look
at
the
data
where
what,
where
that
points
Us
in
terms
of
our
high
Injury
Network,
the
type
of
causations
of
crashes,
the
strategies
in
the
action
plan
we've
actually
identified
or
timed
it
to
a
certain
degree,
with
the
anticipation
for
additional
staff
in
the
future,
but
not
in
this
first
really.
First
year
of
fiscal
year,
24.
and
looking
forward
to
making
those
requests
through
the
budget,
Review
Committee
process
or
the
future
of
fiscal
year,
25
and
Beyond.
I
J
There
there
were,
there
are
plans
to
do
that
more,
but
it,
depending
on
the
funding
that
we
have
available
and
the
staff
and
contracted
services
to
maintain
that
we
can
put
them
in.
But
if
we
can't
maintain
them,
then
you
I.
In
my
opinion,
you
need
to
question
why
you
put
that
particular
feature
in
versus
other
tools
or
strategies
that
you
might
have
available
all.
J
J
This
point
in
time,
I
I
well,
I,
won't
try
to
speak
for
you.
All.
I
can
speak
from
from
my
standpoint
that
I
intend
to
ask
for
additional
staff
in
the
upcoming
budget
cycle
to
implement
this,
to
implement
elements
of
this
particularly
science
markings,
for
example,
but
also
the
overall
coordinator
or
Vision
zero
to
help
manage
the
various
Partnerships
that
we
we
have
established
to
some
degree.
But
we
want
to
strengthen
and
Forge
so
that
we
can't
implement
it
in
all
corners
or
all
aspects
of.
K
I
just
asked
on
the
projects
that
we
already
have,
we
always
say
they're
in
the
system.
Have
they
been
ranked
on
the
date
by
the
seriousness
and
the
desire
to
get
them
done
first,
so
like
Maury
and
Southeast,
14.
or
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
worst
one,
so
the
ones
we
have
in
is
a
base,
because
they're
planned
out
by
year
right
they're
not
going
to
be
done.
So
is
it
based
on
the
rankings
now
that
we
know
to
get
us
to
our
vision,
zero
so
that
we
can
get
I
mean
our?
K
H
F
H
C
That
going
to
work,
oh
yeah,
council
mcgow,
is
correct,
yeah,
this
stemmed
from
a
corridor
study,
and
there
was
public
meetings
and
obviously
we
you
know.
Understandably,
so
we
had
neighborhood
folks
reach
out
and
we're
very
passionate
about
this,
this
intersection.
So
no
this
would
actually
be
implementing
that
planning
effort
as
well
and
so,
and
so,
like
councilman
boss,
said
these
projects
are,
are
very
critical:
Unfortunately
they
are
on
high
Injury
Network.
C
Unfortunately,
some
of
them
are
are
some
of
the
higher
ranked
ones
in
the
state
in
terms
of
performance
from
a
crash
history,
and
so
so
I
I
do
want
to
thank
and
I
appreciate.
We
with
the
grant
funding.
We
have
received
awesome
response
from
our
our
partners.
We've
got
a
lot
of
neighborhood
associations,
who've
written
letters
to
support
these
we've
got
Partners
like
the
street
Collective
advocacy
group
here
in
town
and
and
we've
got
Partners
like
Drake
University.
C
We've
got
folks
like
invest
DSM,
so
these
projects
do
touch
a
lot
areas
in
our
neighborhoods
and
it
throughout
our
city.
They
go
right
through
the
heart
of
some
of
our
neighborhoods
and
even
through
some
of
our
commercial
nodes.
So
it
was
I
do
want
to
thank
publicly
the
support
that
we've
got
for
for
these,
because
that's
all
going
to
be
included
in
the
the
submittal
to
for
the
grant
and
so
and
I
also
want
to.
Thank
you
all
I
know.
C
C
And
so
actually,
there's
three
out
of
the
five
and
I
apologize
I
do
want
to
clarify.
So
the
state
is
going
to
contribute
to
both
the
prop
money
on
on
U.S
69
and
on
Highway
6.
they're,
also
going
to
contribute
to
the
difference,
Euclid,
specifically
Euclid,
yep
and
then
Douglas.
They
helped
implement
the
pilot.
So
so
they
would
not
be
involved
in
the
Douglas
piece,
but
they
will.
They
were
involved
in
the
the
pilot
project
and
they
will
contribute
toward
toward
the
the
Euclid
effort
in
Highland,
Park,
okay,
yeah.
K
E
I
C
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
yeah,
it
is
it's
personal.
It's
touching
I
think
we
unfortunately
can
think
back
on
these
corridors
of
of
some
crashes
that
have
happened,
and,
and
so
it's
it
is,
is
definitely
a
touching
and
appreciative
of
the
support
letters
that
we
get.
It
was
awesome
to
see
the
reaction,
how
quickly
people
yeah
helped
us
and
respond.
You
know
like
Drake
and
tree
Collective
and
now.
I
C
B
Here,
yes,
thank
you,
mayor
council
members,
I
had
a
few
just
a
few
questions
about
fireworks,
and
so
we
have
put
together
a
press
release
that
talks
about
the
constraints
with
which
local
governments
have
in
controlling
and
restricting
the
use
and
even
the
sale
of
fireworks.
And
so
there
is
a
written
press
release
that
will
accompany
this.
Video,
which
is
being
put
out
and
I,
asked
the
chief
to
be
here
briefly
and
introduce
and
actually
be
available
for
questions
as
well
on
the
enforcement
side.
B
N
There
you
go
honorable
mayor,
Mr,
Magic
remembers
the
council
Dana
Winger
chief
police,
with
Independence
Day
fast
approaching.
The
city
Pio
office
has
put
together
a
PSA
within
this
video
you'll
hear
from
the
police
department.
That'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
fireworks
ordinance
and
the
prohibition.
I
also
talk
about
some
of
the
effects
that
fireworks
have
like
on
our
veterans,
people
with
sensitivities
where
it
may
cause
fear
and
anxiety,
pets,
you'll
also
hear
from
the
fire
department.
N
The
fire
department
will
be
talking
about
some
of
the
hazards
and
dangers,
including
personal
injury
and
unintentional
fires.
You
also
hear
from
the
Parks
Department
talking
about
some
of
the
damages
and
the
cost
to
taxpayers.
In
years,
past
they've
spent
thousands
of
dollars
replacing
equipment,
fixing
facilities,
staff
time
doing
cleanup
in
our
city
parks.
N
What
we're
asking
for
in
this
video,
basically,
is
compliance,
be
considerate
of
your
neighbors
be
respectful
of
other
people's
property.
Your
Police
Department,
your
fire
department,
are
gearing
up
and
Staffing
up
for
essentially
a
four-day
weekend.
There
are
a
lot
of
events
throughout
our
city.
History
tells
us
that
we're
going
to
be
busy.
N
We
ask
for
the
public
to
partner
with
us
by
complying
with
this
ordinance
to
meet
those
basic
Public
Safety
needs
and
we
encourage
our
community
to
get
out
there
and
enjoy
those
professionally
done,
sanctioned
fireworks
displays
within
our
community
and
throughout
Central
Iowa.
So
with
that,
we'll
play
the
video
a
reminder.
N
N
So
any
ancillary
things
like
the
the
accidents,
the
unintentional
fires,
the
disputes
that
could
arise
from
you
know
within
the
neighborhoods
those
put
a
strain
on
the
resources.
So
we
will
we'll
do
our
best.
We
will
struggle
to
keep
keep
up
with
the
basic
Public
Safety
needs.
That's
why
compliance
with
this
ordinance
is
so
important.
N
Other
types,
so
the
majority
of
our
calls
on
fireworks
are
going
to
come
in
what
we
call
Crime
Alert,
which
is
going
to
be
an
anonymous
call
and
those
are
lower
priority.
You
know,
as
we
address
other
needs,
maybe
a
serious
accident,
a
domestic
fight
things
like
that,
so
it's
a
lower
priority
in
the
officers
will
respond
to
those
as
time
allows.
If
there
is
a
dispute
involved,
a
medical
emergency,
a
fire
emergency,
those
become
a
higher
priority,
so
with
a
high
call
volume,
just
normally
the
course
of
business
a
weekend
a
holiday
weekend.
N
H
N
Well,
no,
actually,
the
written
PSA
covers
that
because
of
that
information,
what
we
need,
what
we
need
is
a
cooperating
witness,
so
we
can
identify
who
the
suspect
is
in
order
to
issue
that
citation
and
then
eventually
prosecute
it,
but
is
it
is
a
significant
fine,
625
dollars
by
the
time
you
attack
on
core
cost
and
surcharges
and
administrative
fees
you're
upwards
of
nine
hundred
dollars.
Our
goal
is,
is
not
to
write
a
high
volume
of
tickets.
Our
goal
is
to
get
compliance
from
the
public.
K
O
O
O
H
P
N
O
Q
R
A
big
challenge
to
be
safe
with
fireworks,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
they're
prohibited
in
the
city
of
Des
Moines
fireworks
need
a
lot
of
space.
Just
last
year
we
had
a
significant
fire
where
firework
debris
landed
on
somebody's
roof
and
started
their
house
on
fire.
We're
trying
to
avoid
that
and
that's
why
fireworks
are
prohibited
in
the
city.
So
we
really
encourage
you
to
come
out
to
some
of
our
public
displays
of
fireworks
that
are
going
to
happen
as
we
celebrate
our
nation's
Independence.
We.
Q
Have
77
Parks
inside
city
of
Des,
Moines
and
roughly
a
third
of
those
receive
damage
from
fireworks
last
year
during
the
4th
of
July,
it
takes
some
time
to
get
that
infrastructure
repaired.
There
is
a
real
cost
as
far
as
staff
time
that
is
dedicated
to
an
unplanned
activity
and
then
also
costly
repairs
and
painting
and
replacement
of
infrastructure
that
that
was
not
anticipated
for
I.
O
Think
the
one
thing
that
we
try
to
get
out
every
year
is
that
we
just
want
you
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
You
know
try
and
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
you've
got
neighbors
who
have
pets,
and
it's
very
disturbing
to
them
to
hear
those
fireworks.
You've
got
neighbors
who
may
have
PTSD
from
you
know,
service
time
in
the
military
or
some
other
experience
where
those
loud
noises
and
those
explosions
are
going
to
cause
them
a
lot
of
distress.
O
There
are
a
variety
of
public
fireworks
displays
that
are
going
to
be
available
this
year,
whether
it's
the
I
Cubs
or
some
of
the
other
neighboring
communities
check
those
out.
It
looks
like
we're
going
to
have
the
weather,
that's
good
for
that.
It's
always
an
awesome
time
to
take
your
family
out
there
and
that's
what
we
would
recommend
everybody
do.
We.
R
Q
R
O
K
N
I
know,
that's
that's
always
a
big
concern
for
our
fire
department.
It
puts
them
on
heightened
alert
and
we
have
been
uncares
uncharacteristically
dry
here
in
the
city
of
Des,
Moines
I
know,
there's
you
know
a
chance
for
some
rain
later
in
the
week,
but
that's
not
that's
not
going
to
solve
the
issue
so
yeah
I
know
our
our
fire
department
is
certainly
concerned
with
that
as
well.
Unless.
K
I
N
Actually
kind
of
a
renewed
interest
in
the
Parks.
After
what
happened
last
year,
like
I
said
there
was
thousands
of
dollars
in
damage.
I
met
with
the
director
Ben
Page
and
his
team
about
that.
We
will
have
a
focus
from
the
police
department
side
and
also
he'll,
have
some
staff
also
keeping
an
eye
on
the
parks
and
patrolling
the
parks
throughout
the
the
day
and
evening
hours.
N
G
But
I
know
I
think
it
was
said
this
will
be
in
the
written
material,
but
when
we
get
constituents
who
I
mean
I
get
the
occasional
person
who
my
neighbor's
doing
this
I
want
him
to
stop,
enforce
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you
on
it.
What
what
should
we
tell
them
to
to
help
them
enforce,
even
if
they
want
something?
Even
after
the
fact
like
what
kind
of
documentation
should
we
be
recommending
they
get
if
they
want
to
to
help
us
enforce
this
yeah.
N
If
we
have
someone
that
wants
to
be
a
cooperating
witness,
we
certainly
don't
want
them
to
put
themselves
In
Harm's
Way
and
cause
a
dispute
with
their
neighbor,
but
if
they
could,
if
they
could
get
some
video
for
us,
even
if
it
doesn't
happen
that
night,
if
they
call
us
later,
we
can
follow
up
on
that.
We'll
use
our
neighborhood-based
service
delivery
team.
They
can
go
out
meet
with
that.
Witness
gather
any
evidence
they
have
and
we
can
follow
up,
follow
up
with
a
citation
later.
N
So
it
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
happen
that
night,
you
know
if
it's,
if
it's
not
practical,
if
the
Kohl's
service
don't
allow-
or
it's
not
convenient
for
that
cooperating
witness,
but
if
they
give
us
a
call
we'll
follow
up
on
those.
You
know
the
next
day
the
next
week,
whenever
it's
convenient
for
them,
but.
N
There's
a
park
curfew
violation
that
we
could
use
there's
a
lot
of
different
ordinances
at
our
disposal
for
that,
but
with
the
partnership
with
the
parks
department
this
year
we
should
be
able
to
address
a
lot
of
those
a
lot
of
those
kinds
of
issues
as
well
they're
going
to
be
another
set
of
eyes
and
ears
for
us
out.
There.
G
We
just
get
particularly
I
mean,
let's
measure,
how
we're
doing
on
this,
particularly
with
the
park
damage
I
mean
we
had
22
parks
and
thousands
of
dollars
of
damage.
So
hopefully,
hopefully
we
have
something
in
place
so
that
this
year,
we'll
be
able
to
take
a
look-
and
you
know
a
month
from
now
and
say
that
there
was
significantly
less
damage
to
our
Park
system,
because
we've
we've
taken
steps
to
to
enforce
and
mitigate
that
I'd.
H
That
means
people
are
buying
them
and
they're
going
to
shoot
them
off
and
I.
Don't
know
a
lot
of
people
they're
going
to
go
out
to
a
farm
or
a
different
community
that
allows
them
they're
going
to
do
that
in
their
home.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
how
to
make
it
work,
because
we're
stuck
now
that
they're
able
to
sell
them
everywhere.
K
H
But
it
puts
you
guys
have
lots
of
calls.
Lots
of
people
are
out,
lots
of
people
are
partaking
in
in
adult
beverages
and
in
other
and
other
things
that
you're
gonna
have
many
many
calls,
including,
including
if
anyone
listens
to
a
scanner
on
the
4th
of
July.
It
is
bizarre
how
many
calls
they
get
and
it's
not
just
fireworks,
so
I
would
encourage
all
of
you.
K
N
A
And,
as
everybody
I
think
has
already
noted,
it's
already
started:
I'm
pulled
into
a
seed
store
to
do
a
little
business
and,
as
I
was
putting
a
little
Petrol
in
my
tank,
I
noticed
about
three
four
blocks
on
further
down
the
street.
The
whole
time
I
was
filling.
My
gas
tank
I
watched
a
great
display
of
of
fireworks.
That
was
way
above
those
Treetops
and
bombs
bursting
in.
N
A
Yeah
well,
thank
you
and
appreciate
putting
that
together
and
hopefully
our
citizens
will
get
a
chance
to
see
it
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
our
council
is
going
to
try
to
share
it
on
their
own
social
media
sites.
Perfect
I
think
it's
good
thanks,
Chief
and
let's
hope
that
some
people
start
hearing
that
we're
concerned.