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From YouTube: 6-12-23 City Council
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Des Moines City Council regular meeting on Monday, June 12, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
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Therefore,
I
Connie
bozen
mayor
Pro
tem
on
behalf
of
the
city
council
and
the
citizens
of
Des
Moines,
do
hereby
Proclaim
June
21st
2023
as
go
skateboarding
day
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
take
advantage
of
the
many
benefits
of
skateboarding
by
going
to
skate.
So
it
looks
like
you,
girls
are
ready
to
do
that.
Would
you
like
that.
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C
Bye
motion
carry
6-0
foreign
move
to
the
hearing
items
as
a
reminder
for
those
items
where
public
comment
is
not
taken
or
to
convey
information
generally
to
the
council
or
the
city
manager.
Des
Moines
residents
are
encouraged
to
submit
letters
or
emails
texts
or
phone
calls,
with
additional
comments
or
information
to
ensure
they
are
sharing
information
they
would
like
share
it
and
for
the
hearings
items
those
are
49
through
54.
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This
evening
we
have
three
conveyances,
including
two
vacated
alleys
and
easement,
two
zoning
hearings
and
one
license
agreement
as
a
reminder
for
the
zoning
items
only
which
are
items
52
and
53.
We
will
hear
from
the
parties
of
in
interest
first
and
then
the
general
public,
the
parties
and
interests
for
the
zoning
items
include
only
the
applicant
for
the
rezoning
and
those
persons
living
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
rezoned,
to
whom
the
city
has
sent
notices.
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After
all,
the
parties
and
interest
have
commented.
We
will
open
it
up
to
any
member
of
the
public
for
Germaine
comments
to
Aid
in
recognizing
the
parties
and
interests
who
speak
on
the
zoning
items.
I
will
ask
everyone
else
not
to
step
to
the
microphone
unless
they
are
the
zoning
applicant
or
live
within
250
feet
and
receive
mail
notices
of
the
rezoning.
C
Anyone
who
approaches
the
mic
before
it
is
their
time
will
be
compared
to
the
mail
list
and,
if
not
on
the
list,
will
be
considered,
disruptive
and
will
not
be
recognized
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
and
will
be
required
to
leave
the
building.
So
please
wait
until
I
call
on
the
general
public
for
the
zoning
items
or
you
will
not
be
called
on
for
the
remainder
of
this
meeting.
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After
all,
the
parties
and
interests
have
been
called
upon.
The
general
public
will
be
called
upon
for
Germain
public
comment
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
seven
minutes,
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
Jermain
public
comments
for
the
informal
hearing
this
evening,
we
will
hear
from
all
interested
parties,
beginning
with
the
applicant
or
representative
at
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
10
minutes.
Unless
the
informal
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
Jermaine
public
comments
or
win
comments.
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Seize
for
the
other
hearings
this
evening,
any
interested
person
may
make
Germaine
comments
at
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
per
hearing.
Unless
a
hearing
is
ended
sooner
or
failure
to
make
Germaine
public
comments
or
win
comments
sees
with
that
we
will
start.
The
first
item
is
item.
49.
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One
alternate
below
a
is
to
deny
or
B
is
to
continue
the
hearing
until
June,
26,
2023
and
direct
the
city
manager
and
legal
department
to
prepare
the
necessary
legislation
to
approve
for
the
rezoning
first
will
be
the
parties
of
interest.
Is
there
anyone
here
from
a
party
of
Interest
see
no
one
is
or
anyone
that
was
within
250
feet,.
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C
Emotions
to
deny
is
approved,
item
number
54.
on
consideration
of
a
license
agreement
with
downtown
Des,
Moines
self-supported,
Municipal
improvement,
district,
doing
business
as
operation
downtown
for
installation
maintenance
and
display
of
artwork
within
the
principal
Riverwalk
Trail
underpass
under
the
Iowa
women
of
achievement
pedestrian
bridge.
C
Hi
motion
carries
our
next
item.
Is
the
informal
hearing
the
consideration
of
a
request
from
invest
esm
to
demolish
the
Highland
Apartments
Building,
located
at
3524
6th
Avenue
pursuant
to
section
58-70
of
the
historic
preservation,
ordinance
choose
one
alternative
below
a
is
to
deny
or
B
to
approve?
Are
there
any
parties
of
interest
that
would
like
to
speak?
J
Good
evening,
members
of
the
council,
I'm
Amber
Lynch
I'm,
the
executive
director
at
invest
esm.
We
are
the
property
owners
of
the
subject
property
tonight.
Thank
you
for
considering
this
item
when,
in
best,
TSM
first
got
involved
with
the
Highland
Apartments,
it
was
with
the
intent
to
assist
the
previous
building's
owner
with
the
building's
Rehabilitation
we
spent
two
and
a
half
years
working
with
them,
trying
to
make
the
rehab
project
possible.
J
There
are
two
primary
challenges
with
rehab.
One
is
the
significant
cost
of
construction,
which
is
estimated
at
around
6
million,
and
the
other
is
the
Project's
ability
to
cash
flow,
with
only
14
small
apartment
units
and
two
commercial
Bays.
There
is
not
enough
units
to
offset
the
cost
of
construction.
J
J
We
have
now
had
several
other
developers
who
are
experienced
in
this
type
of
work.
Take
a
look
at
the
project
and
come
to
similar
conclusions,
given
the
realities
that
we
are
facing,
invest
esm
believes
the
path
forward
that
produces
the
best
long-term
outcome
for
the
neighborhood
is
Demolition
and
Redevelopment.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
A
minute
is
a
short
amount
of
time.
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L
Aye,
you
will
notice
there's
copies
of
some
of
the
original
newspaper
articles.
There
talk
about
the
apartment,
building
from
1915
to
1916
and
then
attached
that
as
a
white
paper
that
I've
drafted,
please
consider
it
just
as
a
draft.
I
would
really
like
to
ask
the
city
council
to
refer
to
the
city
manager
and
your
relevant
department
for
review
and
get
back
to
the
council
with
their
report.
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B
C
D
Hi,
my
name
is
Tanya
Keith
I
own
hat
trick
renovation
and
preservation.
Corps
United
I
very
much
appreciate
the
time
Amber
that
you've
given
us
to
work
on
this
project.
We
do
bring
something
different
to
the
table
that
no
other
developer
brings
to
the
table.
First
of
all,
I'm
the
only
historic
preservation
specialist
operating
in
the
city
of
Des,
Moines
and
I
am
the
only
woman
owned
business
that
has
looked
at
this
project.
We
bring
unique
funding,
opportunities
and
unique
skills
to
this
project.
D
If
you
review
I
sent
you
an
email
that
has
my
proposed
budget
that
looks
at
what
how
we
can
bring
a
1.4
million
dollar
reduction
to
the
four
million
dollar
proposal
prepared
by
Estes
construction.
We
do
appreciate
the
time
that
investism
has
given
us
to
propose
this
time.
We
are
asking
for
two
to
four
weeks
to
we've.
Just
met
spent
three
hours
meeting
with
the
banking
partner
who's
interested
in
this
project.
We
have
compiled
a
plan
in
the
past
month
to
restore
the
building
with
our
partners.
D
We
have
identified
public
and
private
funding
sources
to
complete
the
work.
We've
generated
public
interest
in
excitement
in
historic
preservation.
We
have
secured
a
plan
to
get
the
building
weather
enclosed
and
protect
the
structure
from
near
and
have
a
nearly
finalized
plan
to
beautify
the
building
during
construction
to
immediately
meet
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
bill.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
to
my
attention.
Thank
you.
Project
has
a
huge
potential
to
generate
on
a
hub
of
historic
preservation
in
Des,
Moines
jobs,
sustainability
goals.
H
D
Them
no
actually,
sir
I
I
residential
developer
I
have
done
I
have
specialized
in
in
Lost
Cause
houses.
I
have
taken
on
projects
that
literally
no
one
else
has
been
willing
to
attempt
way.
I
have
taken
on
projects
that
have
burn
damage
that
have
been
abandoned
for
more
than
10
years.
All
of
my
projects
had
no
other
bitters
I
come
from
a
privileged
position.
D
D
I
feel
that
wealth
should
be
used
to
improve
our
community,
and
that
is
how
I
have
chosen
to
spend
my
time
and
efforts
that
has
allowed
me
to
do
two
preservation
projects
that
are
now
tax
tax,
generating
Revenue
generating
for
the
city
of
Des
Moines
and
my
actually
so
there's
a
project,
that's
going
July
1st
and
then
another
one.
That's
going
August
1st,
because
I
have
had
the
privilege
of
doing
that
from
a
position
of
personal
wealth.
I
have
the
financial
resources
and
to
self-fund
those
projects.
D
G
H
D
D
N
D
F
Hi
Garland
Armstrong
I'm
wore
two
I,
bypassed
it
many
times
when
I'm
on
the
bus
going
there.
My
biggest
concern
is
what
happened
in
Davenport
since
of
the
structure
part,
and
so
my
biggest
concern
is
the
safety,
especially
on
the
sidewalks.
If
that
ever
happens,
and
then
when
pedestrians
are
bypassing
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
little
creeping
thing
comes
right
on
it.
It
could
hit
right
at
them
and
they
could
end
up
in
a
hospital
and
then
they
could
be
dead
right
there
on
the
spot.
So
that
is
always
my
biggest
concern.
F
So
I
wonder
how
will
they
make
sure
to
especially
for
The
Pedestrian
safety,
while
they're
on
the
while
they're
on
the
sidewalk
walking
through
that
area
or
if
we
have
persons
with
special
needs
going
through
that
area
in
the
sidewalk,
and
it
can
hit
them
without
warning?
So
there'll
be
some
big
major
lawsuits.
So
how
to
be
extremely
well
prepared
for
this,
because
this
is
going
to
be
only
time
will
tell
God
forbids
we
don't
want
to
see
any
more
losses
what's
happening.
So
what
can
you
do
to
be?
Why
extremely
well
prepared
for
this?
I
I
We
respect
your
historic
preservation,
folks
that
want
to
try
to
save
this
building.
We
appreciate
them
looking
into
it,
but
again
it's
too
far
gone.
It
doesn't
make
economic
sense
to
try
to
save
this
building
as
much
as
I
hate
to
say
that
I
think
that's
where
we
are
various
other
groups
have
tried
to
save
this
building.
It
hasn't
worked
the
numbers
just
don't
work
for
the
past
30
years.
We
as
a
neighborhood
have
watched
this
building
interior.
It's
not
fair
to
us,
and
we
want
to
see
something
done.
I
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Cara
Kelso
I'm,
just
going
to
follow
up
on
what
Bill
said.
Oh
I
actually
am
one
of
Bill's
tenants
and
I
own
property,
a
home
in
Highland,
Park
and
I'm,
actually
all
for
preservation
in
general,
but
not
for
this
building
and
I
just
hope.
As
a
result
of
this
I
ask
you
know
the
city
to
maybe
consider
how
we
hold
landlords
accountable.
G
So
buildings
don't
get
to
this
disrepair,
because
this
is
unfortunate,
I
love
to
see
buildings
preserved-
and
you
know
the
Integrity
of
what's
happening
in
the
city,
I
love
what
we
have
going
on
in
the
city,
but
it
didn't
have
to
get
to
this
way.
You
know
Frank
walked
away
with
a
big
paycheck
for
this
building
and
it's
in
terrible
shape.
G
N
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Sherry
Rosner
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Highland
Park
Oak
Park,
neighborhood
association
and
I'm,
also
a
resident
at
1206
Oak
Park
Avenue.
Over
the
years
we've
seen
this
building
I've
been
in
the
neighborhood
for
12
years,
and
this
building
has
continued
to
decline.
N
N
You
have
shown
that
I
think
doing
something
new
with
the
building
will
help
the
neighborhood
I
think
it
will
help
give
the
area
a
boon
and
help
with
the
the
neighborhood
with
residents
with
business
and
will
also
get
rid
of
I
hate
to
say
an
eyesore,
but
get
rid
of
a
building
that
has
become
an
eyesore
over
the
past
years.
Thank
you.
K
Doug
Johnson
new
post
construction
I
know
for
a
fact
that
I'm
I'm
opposed
to
tearing
down
the
building,
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
one
of
the
concerns
that
a
lot
of
people
have
had
is
the
whole
Davenport
thing
right
and
we
know
there's
already
donations
from
Academy
Roofing
and
set
in
stone
to
mothball
the
building
and
make
sure
that
it
is
secure
and
safe
until
the
finished
project
can
be
done.
So
the
concerns
about
structure,
Structural
Engineers
have
looked
at
the
building
and
have
considered
it
safe.
K
So
that
is
not
a
problem
and
any
other
small
issues
set
in
stone,
which
is
a
masonry
company,
would
be
able
to
do
ahead
of
time
to
make
sure
that
when
funding
can
be
finally
brought
through,
which
you
can't
ever
do
in
30
days
or
15
days,
that
it
could
could
be
done
and
Academy
Roofing
would
be
able
to
mothball
it.
So
no
further
damage
would
be
done.
Some
of
the
photos
from
inside
the
building
are
just
stunningly
beautiful
things.
You
cannot
get
anything.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Hi
guys
I
am
going
to
speak
on
behalf
of
today,
your
name.
Oh
sorry,
Emily
Jones,
I'm,
the
owner
at
Chuck's,
restaurant
and
I
also
am
on
the
park.
Sorry
Foundation
board
that
was
along
with
Bill
trying
to
save
the
building
about
10
years
ago,
but
I
will
speak
on
behalf
of
a
business
owner
that
has
done
a
project
like
this
and
knowing
going
into
it.
A
Our
project
was
supposed
to
be
around
700
000
and
ended
up
being
about
1.2
million,
so
estimated
costs,
and
just
that
type
of
just
the
length
of
time
that
it
took
as
well
like
we
can
look
into
it.
Taking
you
know,
four
to
five
years
to
preserve,
where
in
best
esm
has
a
lot
of
contact
with
the
neighborhood.
So
they
are
asking
us
what
we
would
like
to
do,
and
you
know
giving
us
pictures
and
ideas
of
what
the
building
could
look
like.
A
C
H
Feeling
I
mean
the
building's
sat
faking
for
30
years
and
no
one
stepped
up,
including
the
one
that's
financially
has
the
wherewithal
from
from
her
own
wealth,
stepped
up
to
do
anything
with
it,
and
so
I
appreciate,
invest
DSM
as
our
partner
stepping
into
this
neighborhood
and
and
doing
the
things
that
they're
doing
and
yeah
I
was
just
glad
to
hear
from
some
of
the
neighbors
that
that
have
had
to
deal
with
it.
So
that's
how
my
vote
will
be
passed.
B
I,
hey
I,
mean
I
I,
think
we
have
vetted
this
process
and
we
provided
additional
time
to
try
and
get
see
if
there
were
other
developers
with
experience
with
this
type
of
project,
with
the
resources
to
guarantee
that
we
could
move
forward,
and
we
don't
have
that
on
the
table.
There
were
not
letters
of
intent
submitted.
We
don't
have
that
on
the
table
now.
B
B
You
know
we
got
recommendations
that
there
are
steps
we
should
take
to
inventory
historic
buildings
and
to
work
to
identify
buildings.
I
know
there
are
those
in
the
historic
preservation
community
that
have
identified
other
buildings
so
that
you
know
six
months
or
a
year
from
now
we're
not
having
the
same
conversation
about
another
building
in
the
future,
but
it
takes
it
takes
work
in
advance
to
do
that
and
to
prevent
the
this.
B
The
folks
at
this
table
from
being
in
a
difficult
position
about
how
we
best
move
our
community
forward
and
I.
Think
we
want
to
avoid
these
type
of
situations
in
the
future,
and
that
requires
all
of
us
to
be
proactive,
starting
now
or
they're,
going
to
be,
and
will
continue
to
be
more
situations
like
this,
where
a
scramble
at
the
end
is
not
going
to
solve
the
problem,
and
that's
really
what
was
happening
here.
It's
a
scramble
at
the
end.
B
There
are
folks
here
that
are
sympathetic
and
would
like
a
different
outcome,
but
a
scramble
at
the
end
is
not
the
way
to
get
there,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
avoid
these
type
of
situations
in
the
future-
and
we
want
to
continue
to
move
our
community
forward
because
I
think
we
want
both
of
those
things.
We
should
learn
some
lessons
from
what
has
happened
here
and
try
and
avoid
these
type
of
situations
going
forward.
C
I
just
want
to
stay
because
I've
been
on
investors,
so
I
would
say
we
didn't
necessarily
scramble
as
much
to
the
end,
because
this
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
and
I
do
take
an
account
that
we
do
need
people
to
address
this.
This
building
was
never
on
originally
an
endangered
list,
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
inventory,
but
I
also
would
like
to
maybe
get
some
consensus
from
this
group
to
ask
our
city
manager
to
look
into
a
property
maintenance
code
that
we
don't
get
a
building.
C
C
It
would
have
been
able
to
be
done
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
more
proactive,
as
was
brought
up
on
how
we
can
make
sure
structures
are
kept
sound
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
older
buildings
and
and
we've
seen
other
buildings
go
down
because
people
choose
not
to
take
care
of
them
and
I,
don't
think
that's
fair
to
the
neighbors.
It's
not
fair
to
our
community
and
so
I.
If
we
have
consensus,
I
would
like
to
instruct
the
city
manager
to
bring
something
forward
to
look
into
what
we
can
do.
N
C
G
E
H
C
G
C
H
C
D
C
E
H
E
G
G
C
Motion
curious
6-0,
with
that
we
will
go
to
our
request
to
speak
and
for
the
person
switching
to
speak
this
evening
under
the
public
speaking
item
of
the
agenda,
we
will
only
be
calling
on
those
of
registered
to
speak.
All
speakers
must
comply
with
the
rules
regarding
their
names
and
addresses
Awards,
and
they
will
or
or
they
will
not
be
recognized
to
speak.
The
five
speakers
this
evening,
I
guess
we're
down
to
four
we'll
receive
up
to
two
minutes
each
to
make
their
comments.
C
Please
keep
your
own
time
because
at
the
end
of
the
two
minutes
the
clerk
will
announce
time
and
the
speaker's
mic
will
be
closed.
We
will
move
immediately
to
the
next
speaker.
We
want
to
hear
from
all
of
our
residents
and
we
encourage
residents
to
be
respectful
of
others
viewpoints
that
are
different
from
there
on.
So
the
first
speaker
is
Adam
callanan.
E
M
Jeff
krugler
I
am
a
resident
of
the
South
Side
born
and
raised,
and
I've
been
here
repeatedly
about
the
issue
of
panhandlers
and
homeless.
Community
out
there
and
I
know
it's
not
a
convenient,
not
a
convenient
topic
to
address,
but
it
is
like
not
improving.
It's
not
improving
at
all.
It's
getting
worse,
much
worse,
the
things
that
I
am
seeing.
I'm
I
drive
for
a
living
I'm
on
the
I'm
on
the
streets
every
day
all
day,
I
see
it
all
of
it.
These
you
know
next
to
build
next
to
businesses.
M
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
building
about,
what's
fair
to
the
citizens
of
the
city,
I
have
to
ask:
is
it
fair
to
let
the
citizenry
watch
their
town
just
be
trashed
and
overrun?
And
why
is
no
one
willing
to
stand
up
to
that?
You
know
last
time,
I
was
here:
I
identified
a
timeline
that
I
saw
where
the
ACLU
got
you
all
to
back
down
off
of
a
city
ordinance.
M
You
tried
to
enforce
the
police,
didn't
back
you
up
either
I
asked:
why
are
you
being
undermined
by
the
Des
Moines
Police
Department?
Why
are
you
I
hate
to
put
it
this
way
but
like?
Why
are
you
going
to
sell
out
the
citizens
to
an
alphabet
organization?
Has
nothing
to
do
with
us.
People
have
made
it
clear,
they
don't
want
it
and
they
shouldn't
have
to
tolerate
it
like
these
intersections,
especially
off
the
interstates,
not
where
all
these
folks
are.
It
is
trashed,
and
it's
embarrassing.
M
D
Hello
I'm
here
I
am
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
consideration
on
this
project.
Josh
I
really
appreciate
your
words
about
looking
forward
with
what
we
do
with
historic
preservation
in
Des,
Moines,
mothballing
and
mothballing
proposal.
Mothballing
policy
is
urgently
needed
in
the
city
of
Des
Moines.
D
We
need
to
have
all
developers
held
to
the
same
level
if
the
developer
of
the
height
of
the
Highland
Apartments
building
had
been
held
to
the
same
standard
that
you
have
held
me
to
that
building
would
have
been
saved,
so
you
need
to
take
responsibility
for
the
mistakes
that
you've
all
made.
We've
all
got
a
part
in
this
building
not
getting
saved
and
I
am
glad
to
hear
you
standing
up
to
create
that
kind
of
policy
to
take
this
city
forward
into
the
future.
D
C
L
L
Focus
I
also
think
it's
awfully
difficult
for
any
program,
whether
it's
NDC
NFC
invest
in
wine
to
be
financially
stable
on
their
own,
because
that
essentially
puts
them
right
into
competition
with
Developers
and
a
public
supported
entity
is
really
needed
and
the
focus
on
their
specific
neighborhoods
is
great
preservation
in
Des,
Moines
I.
Think
I
appreciate
your
comments,
councilman
mandelbaum,
but
this
has
been
going
on
for
years
when
1976
when
I
first
started,
we
had
old,
fed
and
a
battle
over
that
recently.
L
The
council
last
month
approved
demolition
of
three
structures
in
the
historic
Fort,
Des,
Moines,
landmarks,
again
deteriorated
structures
and
so
I
think
it's
very
important
with
the
preservation
plan
that's
being
developed
and
in
its
final
stages
the
council
really
takes
a
hard
look
at
that
preservation
plan
and
with
city
manager
refer
to
the
other
departments.
What
part
of
it
can
they
do?
And
finally,
the
energy
piece
is
so
important
with
the
environment
today
and
the
invested
carbon
for
demolition.
L
Historic
structures,
especially,
is
my
concern
because
it
ends
up
in
the
landfill
and
I
did
notice
in
the
Council
of
a
part
of
the
your
action
was
that
invest
Des
Moines
to
salvage
and
that's
a
great
move,
but
you
also
might
want
to
check
what
Davenport
or
Dubuque
has
done,
where
they
actually
have
set
up
a
salvage
store,
and
that
doesn't
make
it
easy
and
I
understand
that
and
then
finally,
I
I
want
to
talk
about
very
briefly
about
the
preservation
piece
as
an
environment.
Thank.