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From YouTube: 8-3-23 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, August 3, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
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We
have.
We
have
Susan
and
Marcia,
who
are
our
consultant
team
they're
going
to
give
you
an
overview
presentation.
We've
left
plenty
of
time
to
answer
questions
and
then,
when
we
get
to
the
formal
hearing
and
then
we'll
say
goodbye
to
them
and
then
when
we
get
to
the
actual
hearing,
we
have
an
item
on
the
consent
agenda.
Where
we're
asking
for
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
add
this
as
an
element
of
planned
DSM,
you
know
we
adopt
sub
plans
as
elements
of
plan.
Dsm
excuse
me,
and
so
just
as
we've
done
with
others.
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D
All
right,
you
guys
able
to
see
that
yep,
yes,
okay,
great
thanks
for
letting
us
join
in
on
this
kind
of
pre-meeting
session.
We
appreciate
being
able
to
do
this
virtually
and,
as
Jason
mentioned,
we
just
want
to
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
plan
and
leave
plenty
of
time
for
questions.
So
we
may
be
speeding
through
the
presentation,
but
we're
happy
to
come
back
to
anything
after
we
finish.
D
We
can
go
in
depth
in
any
of
the
the
items
as
needed,
but
we'll
do
an
overview
of
these
Focus
really
on
the
actions
and
implementation
section,
which
is
chapter
four
of
the
document
and,
as
Jason
said
looking
for,
hopefully,
adoption
hearings
in
the
next
month,
or
so
he
also
sort
of
mentioned
this
General
time
frame.
We've
had
a
five-phase
process
and
started
really
in
like
May
of
2022,
with
Outreach
really
kicking
off
late
summer
and
obviously
working
towards
adoption.
D
Now,
and
one
thing
that
we
did
want
to
note
is
that
the
public
review
period
is
still
open
and
that
started
mid-june
on.
It
was
June
14th
that
we
also
had
a
an
open
house,
a
survey
launched,
and
the
draft
was
published
on
the
project
webpage
for
people
to
comment
on,
so
that
is
still
available
if
people
want
to
go
on
the
project
website
and
look
at
it
more
in
depth.
E
Sorry,
good
evening,
everyone-
it's
it's
great
to
be
here
with
you
virtually
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
really
exciting.
What
we
think
is
a
very
exciting
plan.
You
know
traditional
Outreach
has
lots
of
features
to
it.
We
pull
together.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
Marcia,
we
pulled
together
sort
of
a
traditional
advisory
committee.
E
Although
we
were
very
very
happy
with
how
diverse
the
the
panel
was
representing
many
types
of
any
communities,
many
constituencies,
different
elected
officials
or
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
historic
preservation.
Commission.
So
we
really
had
a
nice
broad
perspective
from
the
advisory
committee
and
we
did
some
public
Outreach.
We
did
surveys
online
surveys.
E
Then
they
went
out
and
conducted
their
interviews
and
they
came
back
and
shared
their
information
and
we
were
able
to
bring
both
the
advisory
committee,
which
is
sort
of
that
more
traditional
professional
elected
official
stakeholder
group
and
the
Outreach
coordinator
cohort
together
in
a
couple
of
sessions
where
they
were
both
commenting
on
the
plan
and
reviewing
the
plan.
So
we
really
felt
very
confident
that
we
were
seeing
many
perspectives
coming
from
the
Des
Moines
Community.
And
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
E
This
sort
of
interesting
thing
that
we
found
is
that
across
all
those
constituencies,
whether
they
were
Architects
or
traditional,
you
know
people
who
live
in
historic
districts
or
these
community
members
that
we
don't
often
hear
from
they
all
sort
of
talked
about
the
same
thing.
They
care
about
the
history
of
Des
Moines
and
telling
that
history
they
care
about
authenticity
and
about
you
know
not
cookie
cutter
development
and
keeping
the
neighborhoods
intact.
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E
We
did
an
equity
audit
in
which
we
looked
at
nine
programs
of
the
historic
preservation
program
and
other
programs
in
the
city
to
really
see
areas
where
the
city
was
doing
well
in
terms
of
inclusion
and
equitable
distribution
of
resources
and
programming,
and
where
there's
some
following,
you
know,
Parts,
where
we're
not
succeeding
in
that
regard.
We
developed
this
Equity
statement
and
really
what
it
is
does
is
it
acknowledges
where
we
see
the
city
we
as
a
the
community,
see
where
the
city
has
not
always
been
Equitable
and
inclusive.
E
It
commits
to
reforming
those
areas
and
programs
and
projects
that
are
not
serving
all
members
of
the
Des
Moines
Community
and
then
operationalizes.
The
that
commitment
through
a
series
of
action
items
next
slide
hand
in
hand
with
this
was
also
a
land
acknowledgment.
The
recognition
that
the
history
of
Des
Moines
is
much
older
than
has
really
been
recognized
in
any
preservation
or
planning
processes.
E
All
of
this
sort
of
results
in
you
know
what
becomes
the
the
historic
preservation
plan
and
it
begins
with
a
vision
statement,
and
it
really
just
says
that
we
want
to
celebrate
and
acknowledge
and
protect
places
that
reflect
all
of
Des
Moines
history
and
create
a
community
in
which
everyone
belongs.
We
do
this
through
a
series
of
of
projects
and
programs
that
that
are
ministered
by
the
preservation
program.
We
identify
and
protect
the
cultural,
historic
resources
that
Define
and
enlive
in
the
city.
E
Out
of
this,
in
order
again
to
operationalize
that
we
came
up
with
three
goals
for
the
preservation
plan,
and
that's
really
where
we
hold
ourselves
accountable
in
all
the
actions
and
activities
that
will
come
out
of
the
plan
is.
The
first
goal
is
to
create
to
be
Equitable
and
close
and
inclusive,
to
create
an
equitable
and
inclusive
preservation
program
that
recognizes
all
those
histories.
E
As
we
said
in
our
vision
statement
goal
two
is
to
be
Community
centered
to
fully
engage
and
list
into
all
members
of
the
community,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
our
decision
making
is
reflective
and
benefits
all
members
of
the
community,
and
finally,
that
is
strategically
integrated
preservation,
doesn't
happen
only
in
the
historic
preservation
program.
It
happens
at
many
levels
of
city
government
and
certainly
in
the
cultural
and
social
and
economic
life
of
the
city
outside
of
the
city
Administration.
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There's
timing,
there's
how
each
action
is
related
to
one
or
more
goals
and
works
to
accomplish
those
goals.
There
are
related
actions.
So,
if
someone's
really
interested
in
survey
work,
for
instance,
they
could
see
how
different
actions
relate
to
one
another
and
then,
of
course,
the
lead
organizations
and
partners
talks
about
how
it's
going
to
happen
and
who
is
involved,
whether
it's
a
department
or
an
organization,
that's
outside
of
the
city,
but
starts
to
kind
of
name
who
those
groups
might
be
I'm
going
to
quickly
go
through.
D
These
slides
we've
pulled
out
a
handful
of
actions
just
to
give
you
a
taste
of
topics
that
are
included,
how
they're
all
kind
of
laid
out
and
timing.
So
this
first
one
is
N1,
which
is
near
term,
which
is
the
N
Action.
One
Susan
talked
about
the
creation
of
the
equity
and
inclusion
statement,
and
this
really
follows
that
up
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
implemented
and
is
a
very
clear
part
of
the
program
moving
forward.
D
Near-Term
action
2
starts
to
talk
and
talk
about
survey,
work,
which
is
something
we
heard
a
lot
about
from
all
different
parts
of
the
Outreach
process.
That
people
really
want
to
recommit
to
the
survey
work
as
the
action
says
here,
but
to
make
sure
that
survey
work
is
Guided
by
community
members
and
starts
to
identify
those
stories
and
histories
that
maybe
haven't
been
told
because
they
traditionally
weren't
the
kinds
of
stories
recognized
in
the
preservation
world.
So
that's
where
the
survey
work
is
sort
of
headed
moving
forward
and
three
near
term
action.
Three.
D
It
talks
about
internal
processes
goal
three.
If
you
remember,
was
about
strategically
integrating
the
program,
so
this
is
really
focused
on
ways
to
improve
the
program
at
an
internal
level,
so
at
the
city
level
talks
about
everything
from
certificates
of
appropriateness
to
the
design
guidelines
that
are
used
in
the
different
groups
that
are
involved
in
the
program
itself,
the
elected
and
appointed
officials.
So
this
is
really
an
internal
action
that
the
city
would
be
implementing
and
this
one
kind
of
goes
hand
in
hand
with
that
and
eight
focuses
on
internal
collaboration.
D
We've
got
a
couple
from
the
midterm
range,
which
is
that
five
to
ten
year
period,
the
first
is
related
to
the
survey
action
that
I
previously
mentioned.
So
the
interaction
one
is
talking
about
a
web-based
input
tool
and
when
we've
talked
with
people
throughout
the
project,
they
really
felt
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
something
easy
to
use
by
community
members,
but
the
staff
or
elected
appointment
officials
could
take
to
the
community
and
use
at
events
at
meetings
and
just
continue
to
get
input
throughout.
D
You
know
the
next
decade
or
so
to
start
identifying
those
stories,
because
those
stories
and
those
histories
that
haven't
been
identified
yet
are
ways
that
we
can
then
say
what
needs
more
research.
What
needs
potential
designation
and
we
can
move
from
there
into
kind
of
the
recognition
piece
of
historic
preservation.
D
M2
focuses
on
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
making
sure
that
it's
an
efficient
process
and
that
it's
very
clear
what
an
applicant
needs
to
do
and
the
information
from
previous
applications.
So
someone
can
easily
figure
out
how
they
you
know
how
they
may
approach
the
commission
and
what
sort
of
guidelines
they
would
need
for
their
application
type.
D
M5
talks
about
missing
middle
housing.
It
is
really
just
highlighting
the
role
of
historic
preservation
in
missing
middle
housing,
so
figuring
out
ways
to
tie
the
two
programs
together
and
then
M6
focuses
on
Community
Partners
and
you
know
developing
new
relationships
or
continuing
to
develop
existing
relationships
to
kind
of
highlight
different
parts
of
the
program
and
tie
together
existing
work.
That's
happening
outside
of
the
city
to
make
sure
that
the
the
program
gets
implemented.
D
D
D
G
I
have
a
question
a
statement.
First
of
all,
this
is
first
time
in
Des
Moines
that
I've
seen
a
land
acknowledgment
where
I
used
to
live.
They
were
read
oftentimes
before
every
meeting.
So
thank
you
for
including
that
I
think
that's
a
big
step,
an
important
one
page
64
talks
about
homogenized
development
and
I
think
we
could
all
agree
that
we
don't
really
want
to
go
there.
But
what
can
we
do
as
the
plan
and
Zoning
commission
to
help
guide
away
from
that.
E
Well,
I'll
start
just
by
saying:
preserving
the
unique,
unique
architecture
that
you
already
have
is:
is
the
quickest
way
to
do
that
that
you
already
have
a
over
the
course
of
the
development
of
the
city
of
Des
Moines.
You
had
Variety
in
organic
development,
which
came
up
with
different
kinds
of
styles,
and
very
you
know,
com
common
themes
in
certain
neighborhoods
look
certain
ways
you
know
so
historic
by
preserving
the
existing
fabric
of
the
city.
You
get
at
that
first
and
foremost
reduces
homogenization
moving
forward.
E
D
You
know
there's
a
variety
of
types
of
elements
that
you
would
be
preserving,
so
you
can
use
those
tools
to
make
sure
that
they
either
that
new
construction
complies
with
the
existing
pattern.
That's
created
or
just
making
sure
there
that
demolitions
are
reduced
and
you're
preserving
the
historic
structures
that
are
there.
So
there's
a
couple
ways:
ways
to
approach
it.
H
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G
Yeah
I
mean
because
we,
the
HPC
deals
with
the
you
know
the
historical
existing
historical
buildings,
but
we
often
see
I
think
sometimes
design.
That's
not
exciting,
or
you
know
and
I
don't
know.
If
we
have
we
don't
we
don't
have
this.
Maybe
this
pattern
book
I'll
change
that
I
don't
know,
but
sometimes
it
would
be
great
if,
if
there
would
be
a
way
that
we
could
encourage
more
diversity
in
the
yeah.
B
I
I
think,
with
almost
anything,
there's,
never
a
magic
wand
solution.
You
know
one
solution,
so
I
think
the
thing
to
keep
in
mind
as
Commissioners
is,
as
you
consider
cases
as
things
come
before
you
and
we
talk
about
design
or
we
talk
about
different
aspects
of
a
project.
To
think
and
also
have
this
conversation
in
your
mind,
you
know:
is
this
adding
value?
Is
this
creating.
A
B
Design
is
this
good
for
the
community.
It's
just
kind
of
just
keeping
that,
in
your
mind,
is
a
big
picture
thing
I
mean
it's
often.
We
want
to
get
down
to
like
single,
really
specific
solutions
to
a
problem,
but
sometimes
it's
more
about
just
keeping
a
big
picture
notion
in
your
mind
as
you
consider
individual
requests.
J
To
ask
a
question:
I've
got
two
questions:
I
guess
number
one:
there's
a
lot
of
references
to
developing
strategies
in
here
and
I
see
strategic
integration
as
something
we
come
back
to
a
lot,
but
unless
I
missed
it,
it
seems
like
the
only
explicit
strategy
in
there
is
a
public
engagement
approach
in
order
to
keep
people
front
and
mind
on
what
what's
there
and
those
sort
of
items?
Are
there
other
strategies
or
is
there
a
strategy
document
that
we
anticipate
is
being
delivered
or
a
lot
of
them
say?
City
needs
to
develop
a
strategy.
J
Are
there
any
strategies
to
win
over
the
worked,
or
is
there
a
pathway
for
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
I'm,
seeing
that
and
the
second
one
I'm
curious
about
is
when
will
you
know
if
you've
attained
attained
Equity?
What
is
the
measure
you're
looking
at
and
how
do
you
know
if
we've
actually
succeeded.
E
Yeah
I
can
take
the
second
question.
First,
if
you
don't
mind,
because
that's
such
a
great
question-
and
it
is
something
I,
don't
think
we
have
the
the
answer
to
you
know
we
look
at
cities
all
around
the
country
who
are
trying
to
do
this,
and
this
is
very.
This
is
Cutting
Edge.
This
is
new.
There
has
been
you
know,
50
years
or
more
of
an
official,
federal
and
state
preservation
program,
and
it
is
only
in
recent
years
that
any
of
this
is
being
talked
about
in
any
serious
way.
E
So
I
would
just
say
that
this
is
all
new
and
Des
Moines
is
sort
of
right
at
the
front.
You
know
front
pioneering
this,
and
this
plan
will
be
being
looked
at,
but
there's
a
couple
ways
you
can
measure.
I
would
say
you
know
you.
There
are
ways
to
think
about.
Measuring
one
is
the
diversity
of
resources
that
are
are
identified
and
protected
and
stewarded,
whether
that's
through
an
official
designation
or
whether
there's
programs
or
projects
that
go
into
effect
to
to
highlight
them
and
celebrate
them.
E
The
more
the
more
types
of
resource
is
tangible
and
intangible
that
come
under
the
purview
of
the
of
the
preservation
department,
not
again
not
necessarily
as
an
official
designation.
The
more
diversity
of
that
you
can
start
to
measure
that
you
can.
You
can
actually
say.
Okay
now
we
have
sites
that
are
representative
of
black
history
or
representative
Latino
history
or
or
recent.
You
know,
immigrant
history,
so
that's
one
way,
you'll
see
more
diversity
in
the
kinds
of
resources
that
are
that
are
being
identified
and
celebrated
and
preserved.
E
The
other
is
who
participates
in
the
process.
You
know
who's
actually
coming
to
the
meetings.
Who's
engaging
in
survey
work
as
will
said
how
exciting
it
was
to
see
those
young
people,
if
there's
more
people
in
the
room
and
more
diverse
people,
in
the
room
and
sitting
on
your
commissions
and
coming
to
Neighborhood
meetings
and
participating
in
processes
and
events,
that's
the
other
way
of
showing
that
you
have,
and
you
really
need
to
create
a
pipeline
for
people
who
will
become
your
your
new
Commissioners
or
your
new
advisory
committee
members.
E
D
And
to
go
back
to
your
first
question
too,
just
a
quick
answer
to
that,
one
that
there
were
so
after
we
kind
of
did
the
existing
program
report.
We
obviously
had
a
list
of
topics
and
issues
that
had
come
up
at
a
variety
of
meetings
and
and
really
like.
You
saw
in
the
Outreach
kind
of
word
cloud
and
then
the
photos
that
followed
there
were
a
lot
of
common
themes.
D
It
was
very
easy
to
pick
out
different
pieces
that
everybody
was
talking
about
and
wanted
to
start
addressing,
but
solutions
to
each
of
those
are
different.
So
just
like
Equity
sum
well,
unlike
Equity,
some
have
specific
like
measurables,
and
so
those
were
easy
to
say.
This
is
the
strategy
that
you
use.
D
D
E
And
I
would
say:
there's
I
agree,
agree
that
there's,
for
you
know,
maybe
not
as
many
strategies,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
tactics
like
you
know,
using
the
web-based
tools
changing
the
the
administrative
review
process.
You
know
they're,
not
their
their
tactics,
that
we
were
pretty.
You
know
easy
to
identify,
but
those
if
all
those
tactics
are
realized,
they
will
address,
ask
some
of
the
larger
goals
and
we'll
be
cut.
You
know
will
in
effect
become
the
strategy
for
achieving
the
goal.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
like
tactics.
J
I
would
argue,
that's
true,
I,
guess,
that's
why
I'm
asking
because,
as
we
actually
go
into
either
the
value
engineering
of
which
tactic
are
we
going
to
deploy
prioritizing
them
should
probably
be
aligned
with
the
strategy
which
I
think
you
make
the
point
of.
We
don't
say
what
is
the
strategy
we're
going
for,
which
seems
to
be
a
challenge?
The
second
one
I,
don't
know
why
no
one
actually
goes
and
references.
The
director's
council
did
a
great
collection
work
over
years.
I
mean
Marvin.
J
Digier
would
be
a
great
person
to
go
reach
out
to
to
find
the
data
on
the
indication
of
how
inequitable
our
communities
are
and
I.
Don't
know
why
we
don't
use
that
as
a
basis
for
showing
when
we're
going
to
be
more
Equitable,
because
that
one
we've
seen
all
this
comes
up.
Equity
Equity,
Equity
Equity,
we
say
we
can't
measure
it.
We've
measured
in
equity,
it
seems
like
Equity
is
the
absence
of
inequity
in
a.
E
J
F
F
F
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
development
services
department
staff
for
details
on
Council
hearings.
Applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
remained
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
F
F
Got
it
okay,
I
will
now
read
through
the
consent
items,
one
by
one
item
number
one
request
from
the
city
of
Des
Moines
for
review
and
recommendation
to
the
city
council
regarding
adoption
of
the
reflect
Des,
Moines
honoring,
all
Des
Moines
histories
as
an
element
plan,
Des
Moines,
creating
our
tomorrow
comprehensive
plan.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
tonight
who
would
like
this
moved
from
consent
to
public
hearing?
F
Okay,
seeing
none
item
number
one
will
remain
on
consent.
Item
number
two:
a
request
from
113
Southwest,
8th
Street
and
106
Southwest,
7th
Street
LLC
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing,
site
plan,
Carpenter
and
lortex
developments
for
property
property
located
in
the
vicinity
of
113
Southwest,
8th
Street
and
106
Southwest
7th
Street
for
type
2
design
alternative
to
allow
total
reconstruction
of
a
surface
parking
lot.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
audience
who
would
like
this
removed
from
consent
and
put
into
public
hearing?
F
Okay
item
number
two
will
remain
on
consent:
item
number
three
request
from
Archer
Daniels
Midland
company
for
review
and
approval
of
a
public
hearing
site
plan
for
property
located
at
1935,
East
Euclid
Avenue
for
type
2
design,
Alternatives,
A
and
B.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
this
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
move
to
public
hearing?
F
Seeing
none
are
there
any
Commissioners?
Who
would
like
this
moved
to
the
public
hearing?
Seeing
none
item
number
three
will
remain
on
consent
agenda.
We
also
have
two
items
that
from
the
public
hearing
that
could
possibly
be
moved
to
consent.
Item
number
five:
I
apologize
ahead
of
time.
I
might
mess
up
these
names
a
little
bit
request
from.
B
F
Right
and
the
other
item
is
item
number
eight
request
from
Southeast
Polk
family
church
for
the
following
regarding
property
at
4101,
East
42nd
Street,
to
turn
determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is
in
conform,
conformance
with
plan
DSM
to
amend
plan
DSM,
to
revise
the
future
land,
use
classification
from
low
density,
residential
Community
mixed
use
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
P2
to
MX3
mixed-use
District.
To
allow
the
use
of
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
property
for
anyone
in
the
audience
tonight.
Who
would
like
this
to
remain
on
public
hearing.
F
A
consent
agenda
is
when
the
staff
and
the
applicant
are
in
agreement
in
what
needs
in
what
is
recommended
from
the
staff,
and
so
it
will
go
through
consent.
The
consent
agenda
is
in
bulk,
voted
on
by
the
commission
to
go
ahead
with
the
recommendation
from
staff.
If
it's
moved
to
public
hearing,
we
hear
the
entire
the
entire
item
in
which
the
staff
comes
up
and
presents
what
the
item
is
all
about,
and
then
we
have
a
public
hearing
comment
period
and
then
the
commission
discusses
it
and
votes
on
it
individually,
disabled.
F
B
B
B
As
I
noted,
we've
struggled
to
find
get
a
time
scheduled
with
them.
We
do
have
a
meeting
scheduled
next
week
so,
but
if
the
commission
I
think
it's
fair
to
continue
it
indefinitely
and
then
it
won't.
If,
if
that
meeting
doesn't
come
together,
then
we'll
just
put
it
on
whatever
agenda
makes
sense
and
then
the
applicant
can
pay
to
every
notice
it
which
isn't
as
nominal.
B
B
We're
just
like
voting
I
think
the
fair.
The
thing
on
the
public
side
is
that
you
know
their
neighbors
got
their
notice
originally
back.
You
know
a
few
several
meetings
ago
and
may
not
be
aware
that
it's
still
being
discussed
so
I
think
there's
some
fairness
in
doing
a
new
notice
to
the
neighbors
gotcha.
Okay,.
F
B
It
the
applicant
requested
it
be
withdrawn,
they
did
also
ask
to
meet
with
staff
we've
reached.
We
responded
and
said
you
know,
we
accept
your
withdrawal,
let
us
you
know,
here's
some
opportunities
for
us
to
meet
with
you
so
where
I'm
heading
with
that
is
it's
conceived,
I
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
they
resubmit
we
did
give
them.
We
did
advise
them
that
they
had
the
alternative
of
requesting
continuance,
but
they
elected
to
just
completely
withdraw
it.
F
Okay:
item
number:
seven:
a
request
from
Perla
Roman
and
Jonathan
Roman
Contreras
regarding
two
Parcels
located
in
the
vicinity
of
7301
Southeast
14th
Street.
As
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is
in
conformance
with
plan
DSM
and
to
amend
plan
DSM,
to
revise
future
land
use
classification
from
medium
density,
residential
to
Industrial
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
nx2
mixed
District
to
i1
industrialistic.
To
allow
outdoor
storage
yard
use
and
trioshi
is
here
from
staff
to
present.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
SRI,
chakraborty
planning
staff.
The
item
before
you
is
for
a
property.
That's
in
the
vicinity
of
7301
Southeast
14th
Street.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
nx2
neighborhood
mix
District
to
i1
industrial
district,
and
the
proposal
is
to
allow
the
applicant
to
have
outdoor
storage
yard
used
in
there
property.
M
M
The
existing
users
around
this
area
is
predominantly
Highway
oriented,
high
intensity,
commercial
there's,
some
other
warehousing
type
uses
some
larger
lot
residential
as
well
as
more
medium
density
residential
up
here
as
well.
Currently,
the
property
is
zoned
nx2,
here's
some
pictures
of
the
sites.
This
is
you
can
see
right
here.
If
you
can
follow
my
cursor.
This
is
southeast
14th
right
here.
This
is
looking
South
there's
a
common
drive
that
comes
off
of
Southeast
14th
that
allows
access
to
the
three
Parcels
that
are
off
of
the
drive.
M
M
This
was
The
Proposal
that
the
applicant
initially
provided
us.
There
might
have
been
some
updates
to
this,
but
it's
very
rough
and
conceptual
in
nature.
What
the
applicant
proposed
is
to
utilize
some
of
the
space
within
the
property
for
storage
of
heavy
equipment
and
so
on,
and
this
was
roughly
the
area
that
that
they
had
proposed,
there's
also
an
existing
Pond
and
heavily
vegetated
area
around
on
the
property.
M
So
this
is.
This
is
a
request
to
to
rezone
to
i1
Industrial
District.
That
also
requires
a
land
use
Amendment
from
medium
density
residential
to
Industrial,
in
order
for
the
rezoning
to
be
in,
in
conformance
with
the
land
use
plan
Amendment,
as
as
we
have
discussed
about
this
before
staff,
believes
that
industrial
users
are
appropriate
in
certain
parts
of
town
where
they
do
not
have
a
significant
impact
on
adjacent
uses
which
are
low
in
lower
in
intensity.
M
So,
given
that
staff
believes
that
this
Corridor,
specifically
in
this
area
because
of
its
proximity
to
the
other
properties
and
also
residential
users
and
Industrial
land
use,
as
well
as
an
i1
zoning
district,
will
not
be
appropriate
and
it
could
have
impacts
on
adjoining
properties.
Therefore,
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
this
rezoning
request.
A
few
other
things
to
note
in
terms
of
the
subject
parcel,
there
are
some
concerns
with
utilities.
M
Currently
there
is
a
public
storm.
Sewer
is
not
available
to
the
to
the
site.
Also,
the
water
line
is
to
the
west
of
Southridge
Boulevard,
and
therefore
the
applicant
would
have
to
stub
off
of
the
the
water
line.
That's
on
the
other
side
of
Southridge
Boulevard,
which
you
know
they
are
on
the
they're
on
the
east
side,
and
the
water
line
is
running
kind
of
on
the
west
side
of
South
Ridge
Boulevard.
So
they
would
have
to
go
quite
a
ways
in
order
to
get
their
water
connection.
M
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind.
Also,
they
do
have
that
existing
Pond
within
their
site,
which
could
be
potentially
used
for
storm
runoff
purposes.
So
that's
just
something
that
staff
is
noting,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
recommendation
from
staff
is
denial
because
of
the
reason
that
I
mentioned
and
I'm
going
to,
we
did
receive
some
letters
and
letter
and
a
comment
card.
M
This
is
this
is
an
email
from
the
property
owner
at
7301,
Southeast
14th,
which
is
the
parcel
to
the
immediate
north
of
of
the
subject:
property
and
they're,
not
in
support
of
the
of
the
rezoning
request-
and
this
comment
card
is
from
the
parcel
to
this
to
the
South,
and
they
are
also
not
in
support
of
this
rezoning
request
and
I'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
So
you
can
read
the
comments
card.
H
M
B
M
J
This
is
something
that,
if
it
was
denied
here
so
likely
be
an
alternative
use
or
something
you
would
go
to
somewhere
else
to
get
an
alternative
use.
Classification
is
that
right.
So
if
we
deny
here,
it's
not
saying
you
can't,
you
know,
hold
your
stuff
outside.
Just
means:
they'd
have
to
continue
the
process
and
go
to
get
an
alternative
use
for
the
same.
M
M
M
M
So
nx2
would
be
all
of
the
residential
users,
so
there
could
be
a
variety
of
different,
but
there'd
have
to
all
be
residential
users,
so
there
could
be
single
family
depending
upon
the
on
the
density.
That's
allowed,
there
could
be
more
than
one
it
could
be.
The
lot
could
be
subdivided
into
additional
dwelling
units
or
there
could
be
something
like
a
group
home
or
so
on.
That
also
falls
in
a
residential
category,
so
any
of
those
residential
uses
would
be
allowed.
B
I
would
just
offer
for
the
commission,
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
use,
variances
and
Zoning
what's
there
and
what
that
zoning
district
is
allowed.
Another
question
here,
too,
is
a
little
more
big
picture
and
amending
the
comprehensive
plan.
Many
the
land
use
designation,
I
mean
I,
think
you
can
see
just
even
with
on
this
map,
that
we
have
a
variety
of
commercial
type,
zoning
districts
here.
So
thinking
of
this
as
a
Gateway
into
Des,
Moines,
commercially
zoned,
also
some
residential
zoning
in
the
area.
You
see
the
NM
to
the
north.
B
The
NX
here
too
here
I
think
the
bigger
question
to
ask
yourself
is:
does
this
make
sense
for
an
industrial
use
on
the
future?
You
know
like
a
designation
on
land
use
map
and
then
also
following
that,
the
industrial
zoning
so
our
perspective
as
staff,
is
that
it
does
not
make
sense
and
that's
why
we're
recommending
denial.
M
At
this
time,
based
on
what
they
have
submitted,
they
haven't
provided
us
any
other
additional
plans
they
that
they
might
have.
All
they
are
proposing
right
now
is
is
outdoor
storage,
I
will
put
I
will
just
give
you
a
little
bit
history
on
on
this
particular
project.
When
the
applicant
initially
came
to
us
with
the
rezoning
request,
they
also
wanted
to
do
a
single-family
residential
dwelling
unit
on
the
property
with
outdoor
storage
within
our
zoning
code.
M
It
we
cannot
allow
single-family,
residential
and
indust,
because
the
outdoor
storage
would
require
an
industrial
classification
so
that
if
the
the
two
users
were
not
compatible,
so
we
we
gave
them
the
recommendation,
they
could
either
have
a
single
family
dwelling
unit
or
they
could
do
outdoor
storage
and
rezone
the
property
to
Industrial,
and
they
decided
that
they
would
like
to
use
the
property
for
outdoor
storage.
At
this
point,
so.
N
M
F
M
I
would
not
be
able
to
answer
that
for
sure.
I
took
the
pictures
from
outside
the
property,
it's
possible
that
there
is
more
storage.
This
was,
and
this
was
brought
to
our
attention
through
enforcement
action.
So
we
know
that
there
was
illegal
outdoor
storage
occurring
on
the
property
and
there
was
a
grading
work
being
done
on
the
property
as
well,
and
so
that's
why
it
came
to
the
attention
of
the
city.
F
A
F
B
A
F
C
That
was
my
scribbling
handwriting
on
the
postcard
that
I
also
sent
an
email,
so
she
could
read
it
I've
been
with
Outreach,
for
this
is
my
seventh
year
and
driven
across
Des
Moines
to
that
building
every
day,
twice
a
day
for
seven
years,
I've
been
impressed
by
the
activity
I'm,
seeing
in
the
south
side
the
improvements
in
the
old
strip
malls
so
forth,
and
so
on.
So
your
zoning
efforts
are
working
as
far
as
revital
revitalizing,
the
south
side
is
concerned.
C
Our
appraisal
went
north
of
two
million
dollars
on
this
property
last
year
and
I
am
very
concerned
that
this
would
be
rezoned
Industrial.
That
could
be
a
big
ugly.
Six
acres
right
in
the
middle
of
even
the
trailer
park
has
gone
to
Great
Lengths.
To
make
the
front
of
the
property
look
good
when
you
drive
by
Southridge,
Mall
is
keeping
their
property
up.
So
that's
all
I
had
to
say:
okay.
F
K
My
name
is
Lisa
Brill
I
live
at
4096,
Northeast
43rd
court,
and
what
concerned
me
is
that
they
had
that
storage
set
right
up
against
the
next
property
instead
of
out
in
the
Middle,
where
it's
not
going
to
maybe
be
an
eyesore
or
whatever
it
did
not
show
that
there's
going
to
be
a
building
there.
This
is
like
poorly
thought
out
and
they
need
to
step
it
up
if
they
want
an
approval.
That.
J
H
F
F
Item
number:
eight,
a
request
from
Southeast
Polk
family
church
for
the
following
regarding
property
located
at
4101
East
42nd
determination
as
to
whether
the
rezoning
is
in
conformance
with
plan
DSM
to
amend
plan
DSM,
to
revise
the
future
land,
use
classification
from
low
density
residential
to
community
mixed
use
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
P2,
public
Civic
and
institutional
to
MX3.
Mixed-Use
District.
To
allow
the
crop
to
allow
the
Eastern
portion
of
the
property
for
a
new
Animal
Service
boarding,
use
and
Bert
is
here
from
staff
to
present.
Yes,.
P
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
bertrust
planning
staff
for
the
city
of
Des
Moines
item
number.
Eight
is
a
request
to
rezone
a
property
that
currently
contains
a
church
use
they
they're
currently
zoned
P2,
which
is
the
public
Civic
and
institutional
District.
That's
really
ideal
for
churches
and
schools
or
places
of
worship
in
schools.
P
But
the
church
is
wanting
to
do
an
Outreach
Ministry
to
have
a
program
for
special
needs
people
to
do
animal
boarding
during
the
day
so
I'll
get
to
later
in
the
presentation
they
are
proposing
to
limit
their
hours
to
daytime
hours,
but
they
would
be
using
the
back
half
of
the
church
property.
There's
this
open
space
here,
that's
about
250
feet
deep
by
200
by
300
feet
wide.
P
So
it
is
a
fairly
large
open
space
back
there
that
they're
proposing
to
build
a
three
or
four
thousand
square
foot
building
and
then
add
some
outdoor,
kennels
or
dog
runs
so
like
I
mentioned,
the
property
is
a
church
property
located
on
the
east
side
of
East
42nd
Street
just
to
the
south
of
Hubble
Avenue.
If
you're
familiar
with
the
new
Fire
Station,
it's
just
slightly
to
the
north,
so
this
map
here
is
zoning
districts.
P
If
you
see
the
blue
zoning,
these
are
actually
also
the
city
limits,
so
this
property
does
but
immediately
against
the
eastern
city
limits.
So
the
homes
to
the
East
are
in
unincorporated
Polk
County,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
mobile
home
Community
here
and
then
some
single-family
houses
to
the
South
here
are
some
photos.
P
The
presentation
acting
up
so
I'm
not
able
to
slide
easy
from
sheet
to
sheet,
but
here's
a
sketch
that
the
applicant
submitted
again
the
place
of
worship
is
here.
The
parking
lot
is
in
this
general
area
here
and
then
they'd
be
building
the
building
with
the
outdoor
exercising
areas
missed
another
layout.
P
P
Forget
how
they
worded
it
but
special
needs
individuals
would
be
the
people
operating
the
pet
boarding
during
the
day,
they're
proposing
7
A.M
to
6
p.m.
When
I
get
to
the
staff
recommendation,
you'll
see
that
we
really
haven't
recommended
any
zoning
conditions
on
hours
so
that
if
there
are
concerns
from
Neighbors,
maybe
that
is
something
that
the
board
or
the
commission
could
consider,
but
their
intent
is
not
to
be
keeping
pets
overnight.
P
Again,
staff
is
supportive
of
the
rezoning.
They
need
MX3
District
in
order
to
allow
both
the
place
of
worship
and
the
Animal
Service
use,
but
we
have
recommended
approval
subject
to
a
pretty
strict
condition,
one
that
any
or
that
any
use
be
limited
to
the
P2
uses,
which
is
what
they
have
today,
plus
Animal
Service
for
boarding
and
or
grooming
usage
and
I.
Believe
boarding
is
the
only
component
that
they're
wanting,
but
here's
the
cassette
map
we
had
one
card
come
back
in
in
indifferent.
I
believe
this
is
the
woman
here
this
evening.
P
O
Thank
you.
My
name
is
David
Harper.
My
address
is
8069
Cobblestone
Road
in
Urbandale
I'm,
a
pastor
at
Southeast,
Polk
family
church
in
Pleasant
Hill.
We
also
own
this
property
and
facility
at
42nd
Street.
We
use
that
as
basically
a
Ministry
Outreach
area,
all
right.
We
run
it
as
a
community
center
called
Eastview
Community
Center
there's
already.
There
is
a
food
pantry
that
we
do
there.
We
do
various
Outreach
programs,
various
community
activities,
Easter
egg
hunts
breakfast
for
Santa
those
kinds
of
things.
O
O
O
I
was
intrigued
by
it,
because
I
already
work
with
the
Des
Moines
School
System
their
step
program,
if
you're
familiar
with
that,
they
take
recent
graduates
and
with
special
needs,
and
we
help
them
with
job
training.
So
they
come
to
Eastview
I
teach
them
janitorial
skills,
I.
Let
them
work
in
the
pantry
stocking
all
those
kinds
of
things.
I,
then,
will
give
references
when
they
go
out
to
get
jobs.
So
this
intrigued
me
very
much
because
I'm
already
doing
something
like
this
there.
O
So
what
this
would
be
is
a
Doggy
Daycare
I
lived
in
an
apartment
in
a
for
a
few
months
before
we
moved
to
our
town
home
in
Urbandale.
There
was
a
lady
that
worked
from
home,
but
every
couple
of
days
she
had
to
go
into
the
office
and
her
dog
howled
all
day.
Long
so
I
understand
the
idea
of
a
doggie
daycare.
I
would
I
I
would
have
paid
for
her
to
take
her
dog
to
the
Doggy
Daycare
quickly.
O
What
makes
Eastview
very,
very
good
location
for
this,
we're
on
a
direct
line
to
Dart
downtown
to
Central
Dart,
it's
very
easy
to
get
to,
and
so
for,
for
these
people
with
special
needs.
If
they
need
to
take
the
bus,
they
can
take
the
bus
if
they
need
to
drive,
they
can
drive.
We've
got
the
parking
and
all
like
that.
There's
a
circular
parking
lot
that
you'll
notice
there
that
I
use
for
the
food
pantry,
and
so
it
just
seems
to
be
a
wonderful
location.
O
O
O
H
F
F
K
K
K
K
K
F
O
Yes,
that
field
right
now
I
do
allow
Graham
for
little
league
to
do
practices
there.
They
have
to
sign
up
I
work
in
conjunction
with
Evangel
Chapel
next
door.
Brenda
is
the
the
pastor.
There
we
work
together.
Their
field
is
open
to
practices
as
well
as
far
as
The
Homeschool
Group.
Yes,
I've
allowed
them
and
they're
going
to
be
using
it
for
football,
their
football.
This
this
fall,
however,
this
spring
there
they
were,
they
filled
up
our
parking
lot.
They
filled
up
Brenda's
parking
lot.
O
They
were
into
Mr
Porter's
parking
lot,
which
I
think
he
was
okay
with
and
they
were
also
parking
on.
The
street
I
was
going
to
have
to
tell
them
they
were
going
to
have
to
find
somewhere
else
to
go
to
because
I,
just
we
don't
have
the
space
for
how
how
large
they've
grown
as
far
as
my
Easter
egg
hunts
and
breakfast
for
Santa's
I've
got
plenty
of
room
to
do
that
and
I
can
Brenda
and
I
will
work
all
of
that
out
together.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
The
the
changing
Zone
excuse
me:
zoning
wouldn't
impact
how
he's
taxed
and
I
don't
know
that
the
I'd
have
to
defer
to
the
assessor
how
the
county
would
figure
that
out,
I
mean
he's
going
to
own.
It
I
think
it
would
I,
don't
know
if
they'll
look
at
the
revenue
streams,
but
that's
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
that
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
It,
ultimately,
isn't
it's
not
really
relevant
to
the
you
know
the
matter
before
the
commission
anyway,
we.
J
Would
be
curious
if
we're
changing
to
if
we're
changing
this,
to
enable
a
business
that's
tax
exempt
competing
against
a
business.
That's
not
I
mean
that
would
be
an
interesting
feature.
That
I
think
would
be
important.
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
give
an
unfair
Advantage
but
you're
saying
that
our
designation
here
won't
impact
the
unfairness
of
the
activity
if
it
actually
does
exist,.
B
Oh
yeah,
we
don't,
the
zoning
doesn't
dictate
how
a
property
is
taxed.
It's
more
about
how
it's
used.
They
don't
they.
They
note
our
zoning
on
there,
but
a
property
can
be
zoned
in
a
you
know.
It
could
be
a
legal
non-conforming
use
that
doesn't
match
the
zoning,
but
the
assessor
is
going
to
tax
it
on
what
it
actually
is,
even
though
that's
a
non-conforming
use.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
how
its
tax
isn't
something
that
we
should
consider
when
looking
at
a
zoning
request.